Wasim Kempson – Interview with Sheikh Arifi 1

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			Salam aleikum
		

			Welcome to a nice meeting. And you very well thank you very well. Welcome to Holy Cross. Thank you
very much. Thank you very much. And thank you for giving us time to visit this gift. You're very
welcome. Thank you. Thank you very much. Sorry, I'm Professor Muhammad Ali from Saudi Arabia. Yes,
my job in university and I shift was seen with the
		

			metaphoric banal can ask whether he can do it Catholic key and Israel FARC Bell med school, Catholic
Orthodox, our is asking this is a Catholic church. And what is the difference between, for example,
a Catholic Church and a Protestant or an Orthodox Church, in the furniture and its buildings you
mean? No, in the sense of its mean hateful etiquette,
		

			in terms of your belief, and the things that you would uphold in your religion?
		

			Well, speaking for the Catholic Church itself, our beliefs are contained in our creed that we recite
during the mess. So you'll find everything that a Catholic believes in his creed, which they will
recite on Sunday together. Yes, and we have differences, we have historical differences. And then as
the centuries have gone on, there's been more differences. But for a Catholic, you'll, you'll always
hear them publicly proclaiming their faith at the beginning of the mass and the Creed and that would
be taken directly from the Bible or other. It's all biblically based. And although the passages
aren't
		

			in the sense of what our beliefs are, you can always find them in the creed of the mess,
		

			before or later. catalana Okay, them in
		

			a huddle, padeen work he did in dome blocking, what is the differences? Do you know of one or two
differences between the Catholic Church and maybe the Orthodox or Protestant?
		

			One.
		

			We are our understanding of communion of Eucharist for the Catholics.
		

			Our belief is that Christ is present in the bread and wine, and it is Christ himself physically
present. And there are some Protestant traditions also may believe that as well. But it wouldn't be
universally held in the in the Protestant church. So that will be our main
		

			under understanding of Eucharist, as what we believe that to be. And from that flows, men in the
foot look and feel that to him that they don't and Catholic here, and in the mouth, Abdullah hit a
balloon, they will do it and hobas who had the or tuber about analysen will sum up just suggested
that and see what they're like and Mohammed demo with a balloon. They say methylene they are at this
parade every Sunday, and you would eat this bread and the mass is from The Last Supper.
		

			The Passion of Our Lord Jesus Christ, from the Last Supper, he gave us the bread and the wine. They
said, This is him. This is me. And every time you gather and celebrate, I am with you. And it
becomes his body and blood for us. So in a sense in our reverence, we would genuflect we would
kneel. And we would receive reverently receiving our Lord to sustain us and food for the journey.
Enlighten us on how the gay bar that hears me him, and he's jealous. Hey, man, how are you in? Oh,
God, I love them. And slowly but others I mean,
		

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			every Sunday you were you weren't the people come here are they eat this bread and drink? They do.
That's the reason why we gather on Sunday we gather to celebrate the Lord's resurrection in a memory
of his life. And people gather for that for the Lord's Day of the resurrection and to
		

			be fed by him fed through the word which is the scriptures and fed through the sacraments, which we
call the bread and wine, the Eucharist for us. So the assembly come to give praise and to give
thanks and for the Lord to feed them in Word and His own gifts of bread and wine as well.
Interesting that they actually pay balloon and hobas washer washer bonal Kumar, Kia nella Terra
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			is he was when he in his life that he wants to eat,
		

			drink whiskey. Why did Jesus drink? Yes.
		

			In the scriptures record to the wedding feast of kala that he partook of that celebration. And
		

			although it never says that he actually drinks bread and wine, we take it from the reference that he
partook of the celebrations and the gatherings of his custom went up because some of the cooler into
him and there is a kernel module we have one who has a loved one and Alohomora form in Bombay there
you have Herman Bucha Shatta Wale, let me come with code on the loss letting FMO nanoco chart icon.
And as the Bible can ask me, what I ate and breast your corn yield versus sorry Hoonah
		

			Lima is attended a church before where the priest would wear across on his clothing. He doesn't see
that on you. For example, no, okay. During the celebration of the mass.
		

			Our Roman Catholic priests would wear vestments, and sometimes they would be across investment. But
outside the mass if you're a bishop, you would wear a cross. So as your authority as efficient, but,
but some orthodox would wear the cross, but it's something that I'd be about some priests would wear
either lapel. They would have a cross. Who would say they are? Yeah.
		

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			our own and the whole day and war Manoir?
		

			A the question is that, what wouldn't be a Roman Catholic view of, for example, the Prophet Muhammad
in his claim, for example, that he would be
		

			a prophet. Is he seen as somebody who came with a message which opposed or did come with a message
which completed? How would Christians for example, Catholics specifically, look at the Prophet
Muhammad, peace be upon him? Well for us, the prophets ended with John the Baptist, foreshadowing
the coming of Jesus Christ. And for us, that's the end of the prophetic line. And Jesus is the Son
of God. So in a sense after that comes people who are holy and influenced by scripture, and
		

			yep, so our prophetic line ends, in the sense of John the Baptist in Scripture, and the beginning of
Jesus said to them via internet.
		

			Yeah, Alayhis Salam, de Hona, may believe, Musa alayhis salam, or Jesus or Prophet Muhammad. So the
other prophets like Moses is viewed as a prophet, of course, yep, everything. There are the prophets
before the birth of Christ, who foretold of the coming of Christ indirectly, but through the
Scriptures, and John the Baptist was the last of our prophets, and then Jesus, and then Jesus is
viewed as Jesus is, the full revelation of God's love for the world is Jesus Christ is God's son,
and his God. And in a sense, there is no need for any prophetic
		

			saying that after Jesus in a sense,
		

			in a sense of the way we understand prophetic
		

			prophecy in the Scriptures would be
		

			isa for who
		

			is more owed fee, Kalam and to be human copy all of the color and the hope so yeah, but as for him,
Nebby Hua ASA Latin Hua Ibn Allah, Allahu Allah has enough sort of looked
		

			at them from at least.
		

			For example, if prophethood you believe
		

			was completed with John the Baptist, and then the emergence of another prophet for example, the
Prophet Muhammad, peace be upon them all.
		

			who would
		

			say that we believe in all of the other prophets as well? And it's a completion of the message. Why
would you, for example, if you say that you wouldn't accept the Prophet Muhammad, sorry, we wouldn't
accept the Prophet Muhammad, as Prophet Muhammad, but it's just in our tradition. The prophecy ends
at John the Baptist because Jesus has come. And it's not being disrespectful. We still see the
Prophet Muhammad peace upon him as a holy man, and has something really important to say, etc. So we
would listen, in a sense of the weight we give to Scripture. In our canons of our Bible, we would
say it stops at John the Baptist. But the rest you know, we don't. We're not sure we don't have the
		

			same obviously because we are. And if he caught up to him in that in the bowl of Matt Yeah. Lurking
Mohammed, Manuel ARIDO. No tariffs on the whole level, a hernia or not able to solve, Latin hastened
Naboo. And who, and who No, no, no, listen, listen. The Bible as ILA, I am professor in university,
I teach religion, all the religions, Christianity and Islam and some of the students they are asked
me difficulty question some time when I give me Yes.
		

			I will ask you this question. Maybe Maybe you can help me to search for an answer.
		

			And Christian, Jesus is the Son for that. I think, right. Jesus is the Son of God. Yes. Yep. Yes.
And the Bible killed killed Jesus by the cross. Right. Yeah.
		

			The reason there is big sin. Did Adam
		

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			agree, his his son kill to delete the sin. Right. Yeah. This is your ability, I think. Yeah. I think
there is a lot of ways that God can delete the sin without killed his son.
		

			Yeah, why did God choose this this way?
		

			It's the it's the fullest expression of God's love, to offer himself for his people.
		

			To say that Jesus is the perfect
		

			God, and to offer himself is a real sense of how much God loves us. It is to lay down his own life
to say this is how much I've always loved you. And I welcome you into that love to by forgiving sin
and inviting you to come into my life of love of peace of reconciliation. And it's the fullest
expression that God could it just shows the magnitude of God's love for his people that he would
offer himself and how the Adalja to the hub the healthy and I'm gonna say fit with Alec Malala
		

			Okay, which what what the sin that Adam did to someone Adam lash are the murky waters and I think it
is it up or something like this from the paradise This is the Sin City is not the fruit it's not an
apple it's a fruit okay, but the city is disobedience.
		

			Wanting from the tree of knowledge in the sense of the parable of the way the stoled Adam wants to
become God
		

			in a sense his disobedience in a sense mirrors the disobedience of humanity in many ways you know
and
		

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who is Allah?
		

			Allah okay, but I think it's a small listen. Not very big sin. them not take this tree out from the
earth or kill angle. It says Monson only it fruit. Yeah, but from that comes a rippling of many
sins.
		

			From the one sin begins many The Human Condition Did you sense that struggle between good and evil?
You have this is a
		

			an example of you know how it flows and spreads unless it's restored and brought back to a full life
of grace.
		

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			get a lot of questions, of course, but the time is very short. At the end
		

			Allah Allah, can you send me?
		

			This gift for you? This my book? Enjoy your life. Thank you very much. And this
		

			it's like this.
		

			Yes, thank you, Scott, thank you and bear for this gift for you. Oh, I should have. Thank you. Thank
you very much. Thank you very much. Thank you. Thank you. This is the cherish now it's is it home
and home since how many? There's been a Catholic presence here since about 1890 and 1090. Yeah.
		

			But
		

			Timothy had ill Kathira thermos, ah, these, these idols you'd have here what are they an expression
of who are they? Well, these are statues of life of saints. And
		

			and, you know, we wouldn't call them idols. There are saints, their holy men and women who depict
certain scriptural events in the Bible. And, you know, they inspire us because they their life was
full of grace full of Christ full of God. You know, they inspire us to to solve they held up as
models, role models, in a sense. Yeah.
		

			Timothy's in
		

			a horse Roger area. So the main one is that Sally had you stay at home and
		

			yeah, the main role of Jonah David bunch, so when you see them, it will increase you to worship
more. It is a reminder, a true art with a Corona Humby through art and so forth, you know of the
life of that person, how they fit into the life of Christ with the corona hombre
		

			and then NAS market or the full email handle, McCann we're totally happy and Timothy
		

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			towards the hill had eaten it.
		

			For example, you might find over a period of time, that people that when they come into the church,
that they will see these statues, and they themselves, their hearts may begin to be attached to
these
		

			statues, rather than, for example, directing that directly to God Almighty, we always teach. And
it's always written, that the saint
		

			or the statue that we see always points to God, through Jesus Christ, that particularly of statues
of Our Lady, she is the signpost. Her life was full of grace. She cooperated with the will of God
gave birth to Christ. And for us, our ladies always saying, Look at my Son, listen to him. So we
always remind the people, you know, we're not and they know themselves. You know, they get great
affirmation from praying to the saint, but the saint, all the saints of God are saying, God first.
Jesus God first.
		

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original Salah phone, the Quran and Allah who will Owen from Mana Ganda Ness.
		

			Hoon illa Allah minhang La, la la
		

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			a little cross party rally in mercy.
		

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			forgive you probably won't know who you're supposed to, hopefully him which I do. And if you
couldn't McCann, what will be the chrome be among the chrome. For example, when you see the cross,
and you see that Jesus is on that in the position that he is. It's something which is very, very
saddening to see maybe very hard on the heart. So how is it that you know when you're talking to
your congregation, for example, to bring about happiness when you see such a difficult
		

			reminder, if you like, through the cross comes freedom,
		

			freedom and joy and hope because the cross is one part of the story. The other part of the story is
the resurrection, the risen Lord, the Spirit of Jesus amongst us, in his people, and he lifts us up.
I mean, the cross depicts human suffering.
		

			Jesus crucified, died by the hands of the authorities at that time, and the people know the story
but they also know the good news that Jesus Christ has risen Hallelujah. And that's what gives them
joy and hope
		

			So yes we look at the cross but we know that's not the end yes if we saw it it was just Jesus died
full stop. It would be a sad story but the joy is Christ is Risen Yes. The one last leave enough sir
who I
		

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			so Allah and Okinawa yeah luckily fate one ruler who will hire Kathy Iran wash Quran Allah
		

			Akbar of the year who had global al Hassan, we're insha Allah Tala konbini we're gonna talk about he
would like it he asks God Almighty to give us success. And he would like to thank you for your your
respect, and the way that you have spoken in a very nice way and received us in a very beautiful
way. And he hopes that in the future with you, he can mean to
		

			keep contact with you. And he would like to show his great thanks for that. Please pass on my
prayers and my blessings and upon you as well. Thank you. God bless you. Thank you.
		

			Thank you. Thank you