Waleed Basyouni – Polygyny In Islam

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The conversation covers issues of marriage and the importance of understanding the difference between marriage and sexual desire. It advises against married couples who are not happy in their first marriage and suggests fixing the marriage problem and giving a bad solution. The speakers also touch on privacy and the need for practicality in relationships, with one speaker reminding that anyone with a secret marriage is considered "ille hungry."

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			Is it an act of righteousness to marry more than wife? Also? Is it a sunnah that you're rewarded
for?
		
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			Okay.
		
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			The scholars Muslim scholars debated over this issue is it recommended for the person to marry more
than one. So there's this, there will be an agreement if marrying a woman woman will not be enough
for this man to protect his chastity. And he's still feel like this marriage is not enough for me to
be protected, and, and it's still my sexual desire is not fulfilled. It will be recommended for him
in case like this to look for another one.
		
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			But if it's not, would it be recommended or not? Here we'll have a debate. Some of them said yes,
because it means that ability to have more children, there is more woman to take care of, especially
by knowing that there is a large number of women who are not married. And some of them that also
		
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			it makes the person more protected, make another person protected, as well, which is the other woman
that he is married. And some others said,
		
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			No, it is just permissible. It was not something that you have an extra reward for doing it. But
marriage in itself is an act of worship, and another word where the process is absurd. For example,
if you marry a wife, you complete half of your Dean's if you're married to complete, the whole Dean
doesn't work this way. So how do you double your dean?
		
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			Does it work this way, but but it itself is an act of worship, act of kindness and so forth.
		
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			But there is several things to have be taken consideration. Number one, the country that you're
living in the land that you're living in, if it is illegal, and that can cause you to go to jail or
to cause people to be in trouble. This is something definitely it will be a factor to determine if
you can do that or not. Because you can bring harm to yourself and your family because you want to
do something the best it can be recommended act number two, that you must have, you must be able to
be just unfair between them. That's why Allah Allah said, when 15 Allah Tada LUFA, if you Allah
didn't say, if you not fair, Allah said, if you are worrying not to be very over afraid of not to be
		
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			fair, if there is even possibility for you not to be fair, between them, only men won't marry one.
And then there be some Salam said, Those who marry more than one wife. And they're not fair between
them, they come in the day of judgment, and they are to half. And one of their half is basically as
if he split like to two half on one half is leaning towards the ground. Just imagine that it's very
ugly, because he will, he was leaning towards one of them more than the other. And
		
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			the only thing that you know, have no control over is the desire and the love that's in the heart.
But what is fairness, it's in the action, the treatment and the spending the nights and stuff like
that.
		
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			So this another thing that you have to take and consider the third point in this regard, is
		
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			you can't start you why people get married again.
		
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			Many people get married again, because they are not happy in their first marriage. And I want to
tell anyone who thinking about that, you know, if you're not successful in your first marriage
definitely doesn't mean you're going to be successful in the second one or your first marriage will
be solved by marrying another one is going to double the problem. My advice to the person who is
struggling in his first minute, fix your marriage, you know, and if you fix the problem in your
marriage, you know, after that, you know, you can do whatever you want, if that's something you want
to do. But it's it's another solution for your first marriage is to just to run away from the
		
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			problem by looking into another one. And you just ignore or pretend that's not exist. Another thing
a lot of people get married,
		
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			you know, just to prove a point that she's you know, macho golf, a man, girl strong or whatever, you
know,
		
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			that really doesn't prove anything. marrying another woman. It's a big responsibility. Marriage is a
very serious things in Islam, and those who marry another one and don't neglect them and they don't
give them the rights, keep them secrets and all those kinds of things. It's not right, and it's not
correct. You know, and is not allowed in Islam.
		
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			Because the woman have rights and the only reason that you marry her because marriage will provide a
decent, dignified, secured, loving life and if he can provide
		
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			That's not correct.
		
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			Many people also joke about this a lot and, and making it as a threat also to the wife, or marry
another one, as if this a second wife thing is a bad thing, you know, and it is like a threat, I'm
going to punish you by meeting another one. And that would meet a lot of people
		
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			have very negative view of polygamy, you because of that type of talk and this red record, it's a
threatened punishment, and I'm going to marry another one, I'm going to be abandoned you also the
practice of so many people who are not fair. And just as when they marry another one, always give
this bad image of this concept. But in reality, this concept is meant actually to be a very good
solution for society. You know, there's many sisters are staying single along, they don't have
husbands. And, you know, unfortunately, the many of them have reality speaking, you know, I'm
talking about being practical, but the the chance of marrying someone who's not married, is getting
		
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			slim, very slim, for so many of them, what's the solution should just stay single like that for the
rest of her life? You know, so Islam have put that as an as an a solution for this kind of problems.
You know,
		
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			that's why I, I really would like to say that the concept of polygamy is a concept that it is
unfairly treated by so many Muslims, you know, around the world, and something that it has been
abused, you know,
		
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			like many things, that it is permissible, but you might abuse it. And it turned out to be something
negative. And it originally intended to be something good to be a solution to be a tool of helping a
tool of growing a strong family and strong community.
		
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			And in the West, today, and many other civilizations, they talk, they attack Islam, because it's
allowed polygamy while they themselves, the last people in the world who should ever speak about
polygamy or anything like that, because the amount of cheating and the sort of like, you know,
multiple
		
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			sexual relationships, it's the average, you know, concept and Western civilizations, that people
will have a sexual issue with multiple people at certain point. I'm not saying everybody at the same
time, but they're the course of life, you know, especially if they are not married.
		
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			Islam have provided solution to control that desire for those who want to control it, a solution for
those women who don't have anyone to take care of them. And marriage again, as we've been teaching
this course sorry, for the long answer. Teaching is not just about
		
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			a woman that asleep whether the man that asleep with marriage is responsibility. Marriage is love.
Marriage is feelings, marriage support. Marriage is a religious group, faith, we grow together and
faith, marriage is all this together, and also also the intimate and physical attraction. So
		
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			if we look into this, I'm sure this was will help people to put this as on a different perspective
than what we see in the world today.
		
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			Thank you so much.
		
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			So I had a few follow up questions or that. So there are some Muslim majority countries and you said
that it's wrong for a man to marry another woman, of course, behind the back of his first wife is
morally wrong for us. But the people that do do that, and Muslim majority countries, their
justification, is that like, I don't legally from an sanctuaries perspective. I don't need my first
wife's permission. From jurisprudential standpoint, therefore, from jurisprudential standpoint, I
don't need to even inform my first wife, that I have a second wife. And of course, that creates
problems, but like, how do you from the jurisprudential standpoint, approach this individual? What
		
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			like, the lead, that's the right word for it? Should you give this individual in order to, you know,
sway them because otherwise, they're just going to be like, you're just giving me the words of a
human being? Okay. Good question. Yes. You don't need the permission of your first wife to get
married again. You know, that's true. But also, she doesn't need to stay in this marriage. If you're
married another one.
		
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			She has every right to divorce. And she said, I am not happy with that. I mean, how he will marry
another woman and his first wife would have no that's kind of, you know, maybe in a short period of
time, but to the long run, what about every night every other night? He sleeps outside?
		
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			What he's going to tell her, you know, okay, even you might say
		
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			He make an arrangement with the second wife that he will go there occasionally or every month, like
twice. Okay, I understand that. But again, isn't that also the right of the first wife to know? You
know that her husband's What if this woman that he married have some
		
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			whatever, you know, just having multiple people that just leave with can attract certain type of,
you know, sexual diseases or transmitted diseases or
		
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			no doubt it will, it will, women will notice the difference between her husband if you marry number
one or not, that's one to one of this woman don't want to live in this. I don't want. That's her
right? She can say I don't want to be married to someone who's married. And nobody can blame her
that when father middle, the Alana,
		
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			earlier on the line was thinking about marrying the daughter of a Buddha was a Muslim interview. So
someone said no, well, Lila is Tanya and they will not be together under one roof, the daughter of
rasool Allah and the daughter of the enemy of Allah. And he said so and so my mother in law's, my
other daughters husband, they promised in the end, they fulfill the promise. So let me set from this
highlight, it looks like the process on them have made a promise that he made them to make a promise
in the marriage contract that they will not marry another one.
		
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			And that's one of the tech one of that technical ways if you want to go technical, for the wife and
the marriage contract to say, You know what, I want to put a condition that you cannot marry another
one.
		
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			And if she cannot say you cannot marry another one, because she cannot change the rules in Islam,
but she can say I put a condition if you marry another one, you must inform me and I have the rights
reserved the right to divorce without losing any of my financial, you know, privilege or anything
like that. And then of course, you're not forced to be the one who makes holo, initiate the palapa
no ship preserve all her or she might say, if you marry another one, you know, before he married
her, you have to give me $100,000.
		
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			You know, I will own from your properties that amount of money as a compensation for the harm that
he can she can put whatever conditions she might want to protect, at this point, some of her rights,
you know, that's fine. So
		
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			remember, marriage is a contract so whatever into the contract goes as long as not something that
make Halal haram haram halal, that's fine.
		
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			And, you know, I have advice for all husbands like that issue of secrets, marriage is not a good
idea at all. And if it's completely secrets, we will not we'll get to know today, inshallah. Tada,
that does not even sonically correct isn't the whole purpose behind a marriage for it to not be
secret? Absolutely. That's why actually, they're licensed. And the difference between marriage and
prostitution is the publicity
		
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			prostitution seekers, marriage is open.
		
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			Desert law hidden. One last question, inshallah. What if a wife, right, I'm trying to give you a
scenario.
		
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			She is like, there's, there's a husband, basically, he has two wives. But he makes a stipulation
that one wife gets less, sees him less often than the other, perhaps maybe once, like, basically,
can a husband stipulate with his wives that, hey, I'm not going to see you as often as the other
wife. Also, can one wife is halal? For the stipulation to go as far as I'll never see you again.
		
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			Just just to keep your family honor and dignity, we're going to be married and on paper, we will
never see each other again, in our lives, is that if a man marry a woman, and he said, I will never
see you again, that's not a lot because there is responsibility, who have to support her financially
has to be there for her emotionally and all the purpose of marriage does not exist. You know, but
if, let's say,
		
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			she said, You know what, I don't need anything from you. I just, you know, whenever you want to
come, you can come, you know,
		
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			at home, and
		
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			I'm fine financially, I'm good. I'm not interested in any physical relationship.
		
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			You know, I'm gonna just spend the rest of my life take care of my kids, and
		
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			that's her rights and you give up her right? But for him to put it in her know. So in this scenario
is the wife that puts up on the husband, and it's not like you can come every once in a while. It's
like, never see me again. I don't want to see you again. It's more of a way of maintaining the image
of
		
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			The family and the children make giving the relatives the illusion that they're still married. But
like, it's just mainly to maintain dignity. It's not that that illusion would be very difficult to
maintain if you've never seen each other because any kind of family situation, like weathers
gatherings on the holidays.
		
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			This is like, Where's your husband? Oh, I don't know.
		
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			How's that gonna go? I think what those people need need a counselor. She's the sister Anita
counselor, she's just afraid to face the society with divorce. And when we talk about divorce, there
is a whole stigma about divorce woman, you know, and maybe that's what it does. And then she needs
to know that she doesn't need to go through that. If you need help and support, you know, what, if
it's not work is not working? Hollis? What if What if one party stigmatizes counseling due to of
course, family culture? And for that reason? Like, there's no like, they can get counseling, because
like one party sees counseling as like, a weakness. So they will maybe one party only do the
		
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			counselor doesn't need to be both. Okay, at least she can know what to do. I think at some point,
people gotta be like health with family thinks I got to do what I got to do. Right. But that takes a
little bit of strength.
		
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			However, the other question that was kind of building on what he was saying earlier, there's a, as I
understand it, there's a difference in the sense of like, being fair, does not necessarily mean
being equal to both partners, right? Like, let's say, a dude has a wife. And with her, she he's had
two three kids, and they've been married for 10 years. And then he pursues a second wife, who has
one kid, you know, from a previous marriage, but like, equity would say that he would spend more
time with the wife with two kids than the wife with one kid. Just as an example, right? Yeah,
fairness doesn't mean necessarily equal equality or equal to be equal in everything. But there is
		
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			are some things no like for example, nights, you have to be equal nights unless one of them give up
or nights or he take up permission
		
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			also
		
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			some people give this stories of Miss erode, got salt for his wife, so he got another soul for the
other one. You know, this is like just a symbolic thing. But the reality is, you make sure the both
maintain a good life and they're happy. So for example, someone who likes gold, someone doesn't
like, you know, doesn't let you like sober for example, or this one like cheese. This one doesn't
like cheese doesn't mean I have to get her cheese pie if I got this one cheese pie, and so on. So
the point is like what you said, also, I have little kids here, I have older kids, they're the older
kids lean more attention on time. So that has no dude the wife has to the kids. And that's
		
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			completely different game. For example, this one has five kids and this was single so no doubt the
money I spend the lists are the type of house for this one with five kids or four kids cannot be
equal to the house for someone who's never no kids. This will be an apartment, for example, this
will be out. So that concept of equality. No, she has a house. I have to have a house. No, I'll take
us 20 years to buy a house and you just came yesterday. You think you want to buy a house to to be
fair, no, we will go through that. And we will as long as they maintain a good life for her. The
good thing in America hummed a lot illegal so we didn't need to worry about polygamy much. She's I
		
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			just have one question. So if somebody has a secret marriage, is is he sinning? Or is the marriage
invalid? We'll talk about this today. But if it is completely secretive, completely, this marriage
is illegal as invalid meaning are the ins and outs. They have to know we don't call the Xena but
this call Walter Bishop, any one of the one of the things that any any relationships in a marriage
that this marriage is missing one of the conditions or missing one of the integral. Okay, we call
this walk Bishop, it's a it's a sexual relationship that doesn't make them fast enough or Zanni or
anything of that nature. Their kids still carry the lineage and everything, but we call this as has
		
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			to be renewed. So person like this, we have to tell them you have to publicize otherwise, we
separate them