Waleed Basyouni – Excellence and Flaws Series 10

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The conversation covers various conspiracy theories about COVID-19 vaccines and the potential risks of harm to individuals. The speakers discuss the use of proteins from pig and cow gelatin, the use of gelatin in cases where the source is either pig or cow, and the use of gelatin in cases where the source is either pig or cow. They stress the importance of avoiding physical harm to oneself and leaving marks on individuals, and emphasize the need for people to show respect towards the person they are facing. The conversation also touches on the history of Islam and the use of images in media, as well as the importance of honoring Islam and not using it as a form of punishment.

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			smilla hamdulillah salat wa salam ala rasulillah vasavi. Woman, what about
		
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			the ILA, and you're at your dose until the time of the cost comes?
		
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			There is a today I received a question. And I received this questions almost an hour every day,
multiple times, and regard regarding the vaccination
		
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			for the COVID 19.
		
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			And the ruling in relation to taking the vaccination.
		
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			And you might surprise that people asking about what islamically the ruling of receiving the
vaccination, you might think this is just obvious, but actually, a lot of people have not only that
they hear all these conspiracy theories about vaccinations and worry about it. But also they have
legitimate concerns from an Islamic perspective about the vaccination
		
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			and vaccination in general, this is an issue that then
		
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			every couple of years, so it became like an issue and a lot of talk about it. And there's no debate
over vaccinations, how good they are, how not, are they connected to autism, like solid vaccination
for kids or not? The reality is, there is no any proof or factual evidence to prove such things,
		
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			theories, and
		
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			nothing like an actual solid data, or information that can prove that. And most of these claims were
dismissed by professional by people who are nothing to be bias for
		
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			people in the medical field, sold them even I know, personally.
		
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			But I'm not here to basically debunk or to refute these kind of conspiracy theories. Because they
notice something those people who believe in conspiracy theories, they don't, they're not looking
for proof.
		
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			There are already many people made their minds, and they're not looking for proof. But I'm talking
about those people who have legitimate concern in regard to the vaccinations, and what are the
concerns?
		
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			The concerns, from an Islamic perspective, are the following.
		
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			Number one, people say, Chef, this is introducing yourself to something that can be harmful.
		
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			You know, vaccinations can we don't have yet 100% no feeling that it is safe. So what if I put
myself in danger? And I lost my thought I said, what I told Kobe do Camila taluka do not put
yourself in risk at risk.
		
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			So they have a concern from that perspective.
		
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			Another concern people have that vaccination, it might have certain proteins or crystal or elements
that are taken from pigs,
		
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			taken from pigs, and if this is the case, are we allowed to take such vaccination?
		
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			While it hasn't contained trace of elements taken from pigs, or did animal or like animal proteins
and or something of that nature.
		
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			The third concern that people might have in regard to this, that they say that vaccination is
		
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			taken from stem cells, or just taken from babies who basically aborted and you take that basically,
you take vaccines is made or some of the elements that make this vaccine is taken from this.
		
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			babies who have been basically miscarried or like I mean, aborted or abortion done to them. So are
we allowed to use it and in a case like this,
		
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			these are the main three points in my opinion from an Islamic perspective. worth mentioning.
		
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			As for those who tell you that they're going to install microchip in your body
		
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			Or these vaccinations is genetically modified to affect your genes and to control the way you think.
And your children and the next generation, blah, blah, blah. All these are just just very wild
imaginations of some people, no proof for it or any, in my opinion, even entertaining, this is not
something that's worth
		
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			our time.
		
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			As for the first one, the risk.
		
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			First of all, no,
		
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			the most effective vaccines and Abdullah Dr. Gallo with us, correct me if I'm wrong, the most
effective vaccines that we have right now, or majority of them, the not even close to the percentage
of success that we see in this vaccine.
		
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			You talk about 90% and 94%, on 100%. You know, rate when it comes to hospitalizations, and reducing
that there is none of the vaccines that we have, as far as I know, have that high percentage of 93
and 94, or 97%. Or at least the vast majority of vaccinations that we take the risk, and the
effectiveness is way less than that. So that's a very, very good, that level of assurance
		
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			that, you know, been giving, based on the study that it was made. So the risk is not that very high.
It's not like 10% or 20%, you put yourself that's what you call because anything has a risk. Even
when you take Tylenol or take aspirin, there is a risk, you know, anything has a risk, drinking
coffee, that is a risk, the car has a risk everything hazard. So just the risk factor in itself is
not a base in shediac. To say this is how
		
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			when it is the risk is way higher, or the risk is 100% guarantee that it will harm that where we
have a concern from an Islamic perspective. That's number one. Number two,
		
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			let's assume that there is a risk in the first patch, or the first version of this vaccination.
Let's assume there is more risk, you know, in the first patch of vaccination, and when way more
people millions of people take it, we might modify it, you might do it. That risk is still that risk
still acceptable.
		
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			Interesting, we have a rules and Sharia that,
		
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			to put a few at risk for the sake of protecting the masses is acceptable.
		
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			That's why if somebody comes and says, I have a clinical trial, I want to do the vaccination, and I
might die actually, from the hillington trial.
		
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			We say islamically. That's correct. You can take that claim.
		
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			Even if I put myself rose to death, yes. Why? Because that will help the process of finding
something that will protect millions and millions of minutes, the delicate bottle has determined the
macabre lamb
		
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			the harm that is related to the few are individual is acceptable if it's gonna relate to the
protection of the masses.
		
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			Another point that the raise is the issue of
		
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			elements that taken from pigs
		
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			First of all, good news that the vaccination that's in England for example, which one is that the
one that they had proven England
		
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			visor. visor is already because every vaccination all the components are disclosed.
		
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			So that was already out and it doesn't have any animal proteins in it or any animals that you worry
about or any thing like that. So it is by consensus everybody won't consider that not an issue
anymore.
		
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			But I want to take you farther because I didn't know the other vaccinations ruin it. So it could be
taken these some of these proteins or enzyme whatever the take can be taken from animals and can be
taken from
		
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			plants and not necessarily to be from animals. The one that you take it from animals is it is the
pig or non pigs.
		
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			If this not a pig, do we have to take it from an animal that islamically slaughtered, or just dead
animals will be enough.
		
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			Actually, even an animal It's enough because in the time of the Prophet sallallahu sallam, the
Sahaba of the lion who used to use the cheese and the cheese is made by enzyme taken from the cows.
That killed by the Megan, the Medusa and the mushrikeen and the kuffaar.
		
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			And this enzyme then taken from this from these animals, who technically made that debt never been
slaughtered No, but nonetheless,
		
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			is still the take it to make the cheese and also the heart from a long time they allowed that.
		
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			So that's number one. Number two, if it is taken from pigs, what will be the rulings?
		
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			You will find that even those who said any product or anything taken from pigs is how long even if
it is gelatin or it is protein or anything like that? And by the way, it is the product that taking
from pigs, you would be surprised how much of its use in medicine
		
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			you know in StG and you name it there is many many things and even the heart valve for human beings
are mainly the taken from pigs and then going back to the subject so if it's taken from pigs what
islamically the ruling
		
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			and regard to this we say that the vast majority of us said we should not use any gelatin that taken
from pigs because it's impure and that's why the capsule the gelatin capsules, the like that or the
gelatin that involved in and
		
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			jello things like that will not be allowed or marshmallow because it is from pigs. If it's from
pigs, it's not a lot.
		
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			But those colors set even though said haha.
		
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			So the majority of
		
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			these it is allowed to be used if there is need
		
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			and necessity obviously.
		
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			And no doubt and the case that we have here, the Coronavirus and the death rate and overwhelming of
the hospitals is something that we put us in the case of necessities and need great meat. So even
those who said they said it will be allowed in this case because of the how deadly this viruses and
how dangerous viruses
		
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			another point on a site there is a group of scholars also believe that any product like gelatins
proteins enzyme taken from pigs is not even hard on
		
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			like you take any gelatin on the market capsules.
		
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			deserves to like that is not how long even if it has a gelatin that is taken from pigs.
		
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			Why? And I I take that position, I do believe that any gelatin doesn't matter. What is the source of
it's all equal to me.
		
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			From Helen, Helen perspective, why would I take this position?
		
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			for many reasons. Number one, it's because the issue of St. Hannah, which is that
		
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			element that he took from pigs went through this chemical process, that it became a new product and
a new product taken new rules. And then from a long time talked about examples like what like
vinegar. Vinegar originally is what alcohol then it goes through this process chemical change, then
it became a vinegar will originally the vinegar is alcohol. But what a change the nature of a
change, it doesn't intoxicate you doesn't have the same smell doesn't have the same texture doesn't
have the same taste doesn't have the same color changed.
		
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			The same thing you will see also the given example of FRR which is automize which is ledges fall in
		
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			salt and it was dissolved and turn to salt.
		
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			Even the give hypothetical example is that I'll tell which is matches.
		
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			Let's say it fall in an assault in a saltwater you know they use the salt for dine clothes and stuff
like that. Let's say that is a big container and it fall on it and it'd be dissolved and turn to be
salt. You look for this dog and this might not exist anymore. It became salt dissolved completely in
it.
		
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			And that dog now became salt
		
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			Is this how long to use? They said no.
		
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			So is it because I am because it's changed, it means it is allowed for me to use it is allowed for
me to use it in this case. Okay. So
		
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			with this been set,
		
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			we say that this new product which is the capsule, the jello, the mercial, it's a new product is not
any more that element that you know, you will not even taste or see or texture or anything in it,
connect to the pig, it's completely changed, it became a new product
		
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			type. If this is the case share why the majority said it's hard on the majority said it's hot on
because they looked into the other perspective, which is not very strong argument of my opinion,
which is they said, If you break down
		
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			that capsule and you break down the chemical component of it, you will find that the gelatin remain
as an element in itself that did not change. It's not like the vinegar the chemical component of a
change with the process. But this gelatin remain as it is if you come and you for somehow you
reverse it, you will still construct the gelatin which is the enzyme from the pork as it is
		
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			for me
		
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			understanding understand that but for me, that should not be the way we judge things head on head on
and change the change. Why?
		
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			Because the shery are always put the rules, put the rules on the obvious
		
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			any What I mean by that on the obvious end, Sharia will never be put the rules based on something
required this level of complicity and this level of technology that you can go on you break down the
element and you see, you know this one by itself and you can separate it. Sure, it doesn't work this
way this shitty acid it looks. It looks like you know,
		
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			it sounds like a duck.
		
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			It's a duck, you know, as simple as that. If that looks like a like a pig, you know, and tastes like
one and it is but if it's not, it's not it's became a new product completely. So my opinion, this is
a little bit you know, make things difficult. That's that's not how the Sharia is consistent. The
Sharia Sir, if the taste of the look of the texture of the effect isn't as change causes change.
It's something new, it needs the new ruling for it.
		
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			And I also I that's why I also lean towards the opinion of salt of the
		
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			zodiac and others who said that even the pig skins if it goes through that chemical process of dying
it it became pure an abuse of solemn said a human you have to build up power in his skin he said
savasana of an animal or a dead animal. When you die, it will be pure
		
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			it will be purified by that chemical process.
		
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			And that include even the pigs and the pigs are the skin you can still see the skin of the pigs
		
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			who are dying that huh? tanning, sorry, tanning, tanning, tanning,
		
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			tanning, tanning that the skin
		
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			it will purify the process of himself. So that's a very general Hadith.
		
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			You need to prove to make exceptions to the pig skins or any other animal skins and there is no
really proof to make that exception
		
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			or exclusion.
		
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			Anyway, so this is why I do believe that even if it is taken from that it is a lot. So even those
who say it is haram to use anything from the pegs or like proteins or enzymes or anything like that.
There's still a lot of because of the needs and
		
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			the stems and be taken from
		
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			cells that are taken from
		
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			human humans.
		
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			First of all,
		
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			all vaccination that exists have the same issue.
		
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			It has to be taken from a cell taken from humans to stabilize civilize that vaccinate
		
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			all of them
		
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			and all of them like for example, they will be like in the UK, like
		
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			I was listening to what he said. He was saying that in the UK, for example, all the vaccinations
goes to sell the to extract about 60 or something years ago, and they still have it, then they
multiply from that sell another sells another soul. And that's what you see in all vaccination
today. It's not like necessarily the soul of the take, it's now taken from a baby. No, it is, from
long time ago, and saw the stem cells or the take from abortions or something like that. It's
basically
		
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			it's not like someone go and pour the baby for that purpose. It just happened to be the say, hey, if
you have a child, and they take that for a search, and and not necessarily we can 100% sure where
this came from, is it came from the souls that has been reserved for all these years, are not animal
godless, that will be also permissible for the person to use it.
		
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			Because again, it completely changed. That the nature of that vaccinations, same thing, as we said
earlier about the pigs and the change that happened to it.
		
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			And it's not true that they make people have poor babies just because they want to take the babies
and that's unethical, there's no company in the world will be able to do that. You know, but it will
be a contract. If you get abortion, if you basically abort the baby, would you give, you know, for a
search instance, and this whole class is a discussion by itself and
		
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			the shittiest position
		
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			from it.
		
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			And the vast majority of the scholars allowed organ donors
		
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			to donate your body part.
		
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			Like if you die, you're allowed to donate your body part and for someone else to benefit from it.
And that's where the Council of the highest Council have felt in Mecca macabre since 1980s, in the
80s, they give a fatwa in regard to this and to renew a couple of times. And the latest war came
first and the next one came even that the parents are the inheritors of the person can make the
decision the person never made a decision or request before they died.
		
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			And they said that for the benefit. So if you are allowed to take the body or the kidney or the
		
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			any the heart of someone who died, you cannot use the cell from someone who died or to make any
money it is the same concept. So that's why we say that this is not an issue as well to say it is
how long for you to use it.
		
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			For years for those who came and join us later, we're talking about the vaccinations and ruling in
regard to it. And we decided to do this just the first 10 minutes to allowed people to catch up but
now it is 44 744
		
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			just
		
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			20 something minutes we've been talking anyway. Why not be hora tell the airline pilot pilot also
leisel aloha alayhi wa sallam, either cartella haddow Confederates in a village, a word of the line
directed that the Messenger of Allah sallallahu Sallam said when any of you fights, he must avoid
striking the face reported by Buhari who Muslim and this hadith in Bukhari Muslim with many
different ways to win in different formats and this is one of them. And in Muslim Eva Baba hadoken
when someone had not fight het should avoid striking the face or hitting the face.
		
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			And this heading is very relevant to the previous one. The previous one was about what I remember
was about the rulers.
		
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			Because rulers are can abuse their power can punish people can engage in Jihad and fight and or
fighting or wars, engage and there is no enforcement. You know, there is law enforcement there is
officers there is a punishment for those who break the laws. So the head is telling those rulers and
those people who empower you even when you fight, even when you punish, you're not allowed to hit
the face, even in the battlefield in a lot that someone has faced.
		
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			Muslim non Muslims cafard and Kapha a fighters of people
		
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			And peace, you're not allowed to hit somebody's face
		
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			intentionally.
		
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			You know, in the battlefield, you didn't notice that.
		
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			So, this is how long and is not allowed in a snap. Also because sometimes people who are in charge
are people in power, they might get angry and slap and hit the face. So this is one of the bad
manners one of the bad manners
		
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			Imam Hema hold ly mentioned how do you talk about bad manners, that has to do with people's honor
backbite lying, you know, now he talks about things that the bad man is related to physical, which
is physically harming the person, I physically harm you not emotionally, you know, not spiritually a
harm now, physically I harmed the person.
		
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			And this Hadith,
		
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			very clear for bedding hitting the face.
		
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			And the face of the human beings is honored and respected. And also an aroma him Allah said, it is
the most recognized thing in you. That's why Apple Watch out to me, I face the people in this right
on you want to meet the people, you know, come and face that. Public. Come and face me why we say
that even in Arabic, we say why object and then watch why we say that. Because when you meet
someone, the first thing that you see is what is the face? That's right. So that's why when you hit
the face, you might basically make a mark or a damage. And it will be something so recognizable. The
person will live this for the rest of their life is not like something hidden under the sleeve or
		
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			like in the back or like no, it's in the face. And also because no matter how long mentioned another
thing they said that the origin of the face are delicate, like the nose easy to break the eyes easy
to book, you know the mouth, the teeth, you need to break the ear, also hitting that head can cause
damage to the person. So no matter how Allah said hitting the head and the face is not like hitting
any other parts of your body. That's why it is important for the person to be careful. And and to
know that that's why shediac came to forbade heading that faces
		
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			number two
		
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			getting to know him Allah mentioned the point that I just mentioned earlier. Number two, this hadith
forbade us to hit the face in the matter of fight in the war, in a matter of had a punishment that
is prescribed by the Sharia, you cannot like for example, the Sharia said he should be hit 40 times
60 times you cannot send the person in his face or prescribing any punishment like not necessarily
something that prescribed in the in the Quran and Sunnah. But the judge want to punish someone you
know, or the police or he cannot hit someone in his face, that's not allowed in our religion, or a
father to prevent his son or his daughter or anyone and to hit them in their face. That's absolutely
		
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			head on.
		
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			And how the Navy am this is a general Hadeeth and a general perturbation number four,
		
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			which as we said that are not going to come online, although said even if you are in the war, you
should not hit the face and you should avoid it as much as you can. Unless this is the only way to
get
		
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			any somebody to get somebody off. Like for example, somebody choking you or like trying to hurt you.
And the only way is just to punch him in his face or to you know, punch him in his eyes. You know,
just to get to relieve yourself to predict yourself, that's fine. The only way to predict like to
shoot somebody in the face, you know, law protect us that's the only way to protect me. That's the
only way but you should not aim for that you should not hit the face
		
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			by
		
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			some amount of human load data said that this is also apply to animals. You should not have animals
on their faces.
		
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			You should not have animals in their faces. Because it is something honor but I don't really in the
head it does not really
		
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			connect. It's hard for me to see how the Hadith will include the animals. But if you want to make an
analogy based on
		
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			faces are honored and recognized and delegate things in the manner that's that's fine it just
Farfetch but
		
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			mash me out and say haha like the human beings but it is absolutely not something good to do. Why
because the prophets of Salaam in the head he told us why specifically the face cannot be hacked.
		
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			In the visa Salam said, kala Toka befell which also and do not say What an ugly face your face.
		
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			Damn your face. Learn Allahu Akbar Allahu wa jal you can say that. So if you cannot curse or say bad
words about the face of somebody, you cannot also hit somebody's face. Pardon me some Lima wine, in
Nevis apparently en la haka. adema, Allah sarathi. Because Allah Subhana data have created Adam on
the same and the image of the God of the Lord. And inauguration he is a believer in the law halakha
subrata Hua Ji Adam, Adam surah t word your Walkman, that he said that he created the face of Adam,
in the same image of the face of man, the Most Merciful what that means? First of all, when we say
the image, it doesn't mean a similarity, because you might have different images of different
		
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			creations and their faces, not every face has an image has an image everything exists physically
outside, it has a soul has an image, anything exists, it must have an image, the thing that has no
image is the thing that does not physically exist. Like there is no image for love. There is no
image for fee anything manually, intangible, has no image, the moment it became physically exist,
car and BNF say it means it has an image.
		
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			This This image is different from one thing to another. So the image of Allah Subhana, WA, tada
belongs to him. It's different than our images. It's the exact like when I say, Allah Subhana Allah
has a face as a hand, but his hands not like our hands, in his face, like our face, he has in a
knowledge has knowledge, he is alive, he had his a wise his wisdom. He is he speaks, he hears he
sees all these things. Are we also here and see and we have power we have well and we are alive, but
we not like him. And the same thing, the image of philosophy data, it's not like the image of the
human beings. But what this means that the image and especially specifically the duration and
		
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			muslimah, then Jose man, others, the image of Allah's face is or the image of the face of Adam, like
the image, you know, off.
		
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			Man, it means in Alabama law said that Allah subhanho wa Taala His face is the most honorable thing.
And Allah made human beings the most honorable thing is their faces.
		
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			And he made your face is the most honorable thing. And that's why in the Day of Judgment, and the
agenda, Allah subhanaw taala will allow you to see from him what his face, he removed the veil, and
he will allow you to look at his face. It's the most honorable, beautiful thing that you'll see from
Alice Connaughton. I shut off our oven, so if it is apparent, so that's also human beings alarm in
their face is the most honorable thing, the most recognized thing, the most respected and honorable
thing in you. It's not your feet is not your knees, it's not your hand, it's your face, which means
a lot. Also, another thing that Allah Subhana Allah made your face contain your, your hearing, and
		
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			your ability to see and Allah Subhana Allah His face also, as came in the many evidence shows you
that Allah subhanaw taala his face, also where he sees and he hears of Hannah what odd is that means
he has eyes like ours? No our ears like ours. No. Is his hearing an unseen like the way the system
we all know how we don't know. So somebody, any one of the things that is interesting, somebody will
say yes. Yeah. Why would you say that? That's gonna make people
		
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			Think of God like humans. I didn't say that.
		
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			It's the prophets of Allah who said that
		
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			Allah who said that it's not like me like looking forward for it. No, that's why would have been
Mubarak Rahim Allah. He was somebody who was telling him and in Nandan Nilekani, sometimes I don't
like sharing this a hadith about the description of Allah. He said I agree with you. But you know
what, that's what how Allah Allah describes himself. I didn't look forward to say, Oh, he has and
		
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			it's not me It is him he's saying that about himself. It is his messenger sallallahu Sallam said
that about him all what we do we just relate what's the process of him said, and what has missed a
note and what Allah said, messenger said, and this notion of No, it's a metaphor, it's not really
means hand, it means something else. This is anybody goes to that directions.
		
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			First, we'll go against the basic understanding of communication and Arabic language.
		
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			Because in Arabic language, we don't use the metaphor. And we use that figurative speech.
		
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			In that extent,
		
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			where most of the verses in the Quran, we have to twist it. That's not how we talk to each other.
		
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			And he's not Allah subhanaw taala not playing game with us in the Quran telling us that I created
Adam with my hand. No, no, I don't mean hand. You know, you have to figure something else. No, he
couldn't. I don't know what is that?
		
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			Allah tell him, he has a hand. Yes, Allah said that he has a face he has a face. So for me, he
Subhana Allah listens, he listens. He speaks he speaks for me to go on to try to reinterpreting
this. That means that majority of the verses of the Parliament is describing almost my data are
something that is never meant to believed in.
		
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			And that's why it's so dangerous to go that route. Because the people who go that route, you know,
what they ended up saying, The ended up saying that ACTA
		
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			Hani and I at via Heroku for they said that the vast majority of these verses, actually if you
believe in it, that means it's up. That's because you think Allah, Allah, Who said that the verses
actually means that Allah similar to his creation, no, almost nothing similar to him. But these are
attributes belongs to Allah Subhana tada should be understood in the light that it is a laws, image,
a laws face, a laws, hand alone, wisdom, allies, mercy allows power and so forth.
		
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			And so this headed in any way.
		
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			One of the Hardy, that it is, can be mushkil can be like hard for some people to understand it. But
at least this part of it should be easy to it. And that's if this is the case, that's why I said
it's it's I can't see this Hadith, taking a set. Or since she said don't hit the human beings face.
Don't hit the hit the animals face. You cannot make that really analogy because the Hadith stated
Why should not why the fish should be respected. Okay. One of the things that's interesting, someone
said,
		
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			and this completely, yeah, and he shows you that some people run to the issue of figurative speech
or metaphor, because they feel that they are
		
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			in a problem and they want to get out of it. Just believing in the Hadith, and then the source and
the text of textual evidence, it makes them feel that they are in trouble and they want to get out
of the trouble. So they find any way to get out of it. While if they just believe in it, the way it
was reported was no trouble. hamdulillah Allah says that about himself, you're not going to be more
jealous over religion or more protective of their aid than a lot more than himself. Actually, you
are ruining that the Quran and Sunnah by going into that direction. So some of them trying to figure
a way to get out of it. He said, in Allahu Allah, aka Adam, Allah sorachi. Allah created Adam, upon
		
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			his image.
		
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			They said, Oh, this is in relation to a man was hitting another man.
		
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			And while he is hitting and beating him and cursing his face, the process I'm said, don't do that
because Allah created
		
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			Add them on the image of that man. So don't hit his face or say this them feed them your face or
something like that. Because I'd also look at any Allah surah.
		
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			Allah created unlikely to Adam, and the same image of that man that it has basically been abused.
		
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			of any any, you have to be completely agami you have to be completely knows nothing about Arabic
language to accept that. And I would say that even if you know nothing about Arabic language, you're
still not going to accept that. Why?
		
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			I'm not going to even tell you that this the the idea that there is a man beaten, and somebody said
this about the man's face, then the prophets of Allah made that statement, This in itself made up.
		
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			That's a fabricated story. There is no trace for this in books of sin, at least there are likable
books of similar.
		
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			People made up that story.
		
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			To get out of this headache to find a way to get out. So the made up the store, but any as the size
and when you make something up, you don't even able to complete your life, or complete your story
correct? Because it makes no sense in Arabic language on a common sense not even
		
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			to say that Allah created Adam,
		
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			in the same image of that man,
		
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			it's the opposite.
		
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			If that was the true the person would have said, I like it is that man on the image of other
		
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			not created Adam in this image.
		
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			Another way, I'm telling you, if you want a workflow, they just feel like your own problem and they
want to get out of it.
		
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			Another interpretation they said for in the LA dama, Allah, Allah, Allah Sati Adam,
		
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			they said he created Adam upon his image, they said his nauseum referring to Allah, it means any
created Adam, in the same image of Adam
		
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			follow each other. What that means and you know, had said
		
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			what that means,
		
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			but they tried to find that interpretation they said, and he created Adam in the image of Adam and
Eve in the same image that Allah decided before.
		
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			Question, if this is the case, how this lets us see okay, He created him according to whatever plan
he had for him. How this has to do with don't head the face.
		
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			How can be this ela reasoning for saying hold on to the face?
		
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			There's no connection.
		
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			And
		
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			that's not how the earth language works, or any language in the world.
		
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			And another point I will end with those, they love us this point a lot. And many times he said,
Allah Hi there camel Jamia this interpretation for the Hadith this way that this is his doesn't
refer to Allah. That's the only people who started this were a deviant sect known as an Jamia none
of the early generations of added Islam ever said anything like that they reported the Hadith and
they accepted the way it is.
		
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			And we should not think of them as of this hadith in any shape or any way that a Lost Planet Allah
has the same look of a human beings or anything like that. No, but it means the last one to Allah is
faces honor like your faces honorable thing and you and last part Allah has an eyes and has no and
he has other art and other qualities and other description. We didn't know what it is. But at least
that's what we know. of.
		
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			And this hand It also, it is a clear evidence that any sports include hitting the face is not
allowed.
		
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			And this is unfortunate today, do you do believe that some people said shefali Please don't mention
this in your class.
		
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			People will get mad and people aren't gonna like what you're saying.
		
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			To handle I'd say what I believe it is, you know, hold on hold on. And this is an issue today became
so popular that it needs to be explained.
		
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			You know, yes, I love so many of these sportsman who are involved in this type of martial arts and
		
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			This type of boxing and then games. But still, that does not make these games hot. It doesn't make
this allowed and it's not
		
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			if we're not allowed to hit the face in the water,
		
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			how can we allow it to hit it in that?
		
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			sports? We're not allowed allowing a father to hit his son's face. How can you allow players to hit
each other's face? So kickboxing,
		
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			boxing, Brazilian jujitsu, or EMI, MMA, you know, all these things that, oh, there is a whole entire
competition. It's about slapping, who can slap the other person the hardest.
		
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			You know, even if
		
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			it's a Russia and Pakistan, it is so sad. They have those like competition who can slap the other
person's that the hardest by is wearing a protection around the face
		
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			is allowed make it allowed? No, because the whole point is the honor of the face. And by the way,
even with the helmet is still very dangerous.
		
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			You know, and civil studies 15 to 40% of ex boxers have been found to have symptoms of chronic brain
injury. Most of these boxers have mild symptoms. Recent studies have even shown that most
professional boxer, even those without symptoms, have some degree of brain damage.
		
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			seen in its report, which can be a matter of life and death, between nine between 1800 90 and 2011,
estimated
		
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			1600, for boxers died as a direct result of injury sustained in the ring. According to the survey
carried out a manual and he carried out that is an average of 13 deaths a year.
		
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			13 deaths a year.
		
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			That's why in the highest Council of
		
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			the Muslim world time Mecca. In the 10th. Annual Meeting, they issued a very you can reviewed
yourself
		
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			ruling in regard to boxing, and it is a forbidden sports. That's not allowed. We are so into
imitation
		
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			that we just take anything from out from outside. I'm sorry, you think it's barbaric? to superberry
to see what the Roman used to do in the rings, where the people fight one another to death? How can
you see how barbaric is it is to put human beings in a cage to fight and to bleed one another.
		
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			I don't know or boxing to hit someone, I just I cannot understand that how we are so change to
accept such a behavior.
		
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			How maybe if you put an animal in a cage,
		
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			two dogs in a cage to fight one another two roosters in a cage to fight one another. It will be the
most inhumane and the criminal and you go to jail. But you put two human beings to beat each other
because there is somebody cheating and gambling on the lives. It's okay. What kind of civilization
is this?
		
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			What kind of human rights
		
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			is this?
		
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			And I cannot process this violence. The justification of this violence.
		
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			I know friends I know people family members they like to watch I can't stand watching it not even a
second
		
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			because I think it turned us to animals.
		
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			Absolutely.
		
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			If we are also it's not allowed to curse is not allowed to say bad words not to make fun of
somebody's face. Okay, let Apolo Papa Halawa check this an ugly face okay.
		
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			Car biologico German
		
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			law to comprehend wedge. So all these are Heidi saying the not allowed to say What an ugly face Your
face is ugly, make fun of somebody whose face that's not a lot in comedy or on being sarcastic or
funny is not allowed. Also, maybe some between husband and wife not Do not hit on that face. Well
that's
		
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			what I took a bet on say your face is ugly you look ugly. You know, that's how long partial Islam
Rahim Allah and the for the permutation and hitting the face or saying making fun or insulting
somebody's face is to all human beings, obviously. Because Adam, basically, the way we've been
created is for that.
		
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			I'm saying this because sometimes you might see some images circulating in the internet, for
example, they bring somebody whose face recently they had some buddies face and they had a print of
boot on his face.
		
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			That's not correct.
		
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			My opinion, we should not do something like that.
		
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			Or watch my ugly face or curses face. We should not do that.
		
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			is not about the person he might be the worst person but it's about because honoring Allah in the
law.
		
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			It's about honoring the last panel
		
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			and showing that respect to Allah. So
		
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			I will stop here inshallah. And next week, we will have a new hobby.
		
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			Here. I don't know if anybody have a question? We have the zoom today, which is something new.
		
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			Let me see what are you guys can talk you can unmute yourself and talk if you want. Or I can unmute
you if somebody has a question.
		
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			Let's
		
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			go or you can put it in the chat anybody has.
		
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			Okay. There is nothing
		
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			asked on you.
		
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			Why crisanta? Like, yes. I had a question about
		
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			hitting in the face or playful time?
		
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			Or
		
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			face is something that is not allowed.
		
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			Very good question. Very good question.
		
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			The point is, is the hitting that is the form of punishment and harm.
		
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			That's what is not allowed. But if it's a playful manner, that's okay.
		
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			Good point.
		
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			Sometimes wrestling can be pretty violent as well.
		
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			Where do you draw the line between boxing versus wrestling and there's some form where it's partial
wrestling in boxing
		
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			all at once. Very good. The reason for the revelation of boxing is the hitting the face. That's the
only reason it's not about the violence, it's about the face. And even this kickboxing is all like
that device as well as something else. But the main point is in hitting the face. So that's why if
the do these games and martial arts, and even if we allowed, if we swallow all the other points, you
can play it but with the condition you're not allowed to touch the face. So if there is a Muslim
want to regulate these martial art games, for example, the one of the condition will be not allowed
to hit the face of the other player.
		
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			And that will be you know, we can talk about the rest of the guidelines. But like even in rustling
and other like I used to play Taekwondo before, for example, as a martial art in my early days, and
we don't hit the face. You know, we just even our teacher used to tell us you're not allowed to hit
the face.
		
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			You know, because he's Muslim. how they'll hold on. We used to do that. Even if we go to play in a,
let's say in a tournament or something of that. He used to teach us he said like, you touch it, but
you don't hit it.
		
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			Like even if you put your feet you just like touch the just the face but you don't hit
		
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			and we sometimes lose but he doesn't matter because that's what the ruling are so that's one of the
thing that it just a rule that heading the face of something forbidden and Holloman Islam
		
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			yeah
		
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			we're doing
		
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			pretty good in our community here we had a boxing
		
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			training but in that boxing training it was set to the children the kids you're not allowed to the
face and when they play they don't have the face of each other. That's a very good second line
because I remember when they said we're gonna have boxing in the master I'm raising this issue and
we talked about it and we made sure that this is clear to the children and to the people who play
because honoring the face and not having it as something
		
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			that's watchable. It's not just macro
		
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			Yeah.
		
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			Yes.
		
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			Yes, that's why our trainer used to tell us know his martial law. And how little hold on he was to
teach us that. Like even when we like had like an even with the hands. He was saying you stop at the
feet you don't hit you just touch
		
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			because let's say you are in a situation somebody attack you or something like that and you
defending yourself a new you might need to hit the person's faces to defend yourself if you have to.
If you can't stop the person without them
		
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			by come along here. Thank you for logging on and being with us tonight. So I'm like walking into
labor.