The Deen Show – Women in Bikini looking down on Muslim Women (Wendy Accepts Islam)

			everything covered but her eyes What a cruel male dominated culture. I remember this to this day I
got down on my knees. And instead of praying to Jesus, which I'd done in the past, I prayed to God
and I just said, Dear God, I've tried everything I could I, I just want to worship you, and the way
that you want me to worship you and I don't know what it is.
		

			But you need to bring it to me
		

			me
		

			wrong God. Allah, Allah
		

			and His final messengers, Muhammad, peace be upon him. This is our religion, Islam, Islam, this is
the dijo
		

			I was ready to talk about this, I would only talk about explaining how much respect I have for the
faith of Islam Show. Welcome to today's show. That the show
		

			was made. Last salami calm How you guys doing? How're you guys doing? I'm excited. I'm here with
Wendy. She accepted Islam 30 years ago. What was it? What did it for you? We know Islam is the
fastest growing way of life in the world yesterday, today and tomorrow in sha Allah. And I want to
know, people want to know like, what is it? What's your background? And what had you so interested
that you accepted Islam and you still live in it? To this day? Yes. Salam aleikum. Thank you for
having me here. And I became a Muslim, as I said, it was well over 30 years ago. But for me, my
journey began much earlier when I was quite young. I was raised Episcopalian, but from a very early
		

			age, I want to say, even 10 years old, I had questions. And I wasn't getting the answers that really
felt right to me. And so I started my own search. And my parents actually always encouraged that
they were very open minded, they were happy that I was a spiritual person that I was curious. And I
just really reached out to different churches, I used to go to
		

			different denominations of Christianity, I hadn't really expanded beyond that I was in a small
farming town in Michigan, but I explored everything I could, and nothing really felt like it was it
for me. And this continued all through college, actually. And then at one point, I felt like I'd
done
		

			what I could do in that maybe I was approaching it wrong. And so and this is I can remember this to
this day, I got down on my knees. And instead of praying to Jesus, which I'd done in the past, I
prayed to God, and I just said, Dear God, I've tried everything I could I, I just want to worship
you in the way that you want me to worship you. And I don't know what it is.
		

			But you need to bring it to me because I've tried everything. And none of them feel right. And I
trust you. And I just, I'm done with my own search, I need you to bring it to me and show it to me,
because I don't care what it is, how strange it is, how different how foreign, how unusual how
different from my own background, I just want to worship you the way you want me to worship You. And
		

			about a year and a half later, I was introduced Islam and I knew immediately, immediately,
immediately, so you said immediately you got down on your knees, and you're praying to the crater
alone for guidance. Just like Jesus prayed, he prayed not to himself, he prayed to the Creator to
heavens and earth, and you're asking for guidance, and then you're exposed to Islam. And you knew
right away what were some of the things about Islam that captivated you?
		

			The fact that you're worshiping God directly, that it's a conversation between you and God, and that
the Quran really felt like
		

			a personal message. Something from God directly to me. I don't maybe that was selfish to think of it
like that. But I really felt like well, this is for me, this is God talking to me. And that was just
exciting. And it felt right. And it was right. And it has been right and continues to be right and I
tried to share that with other people.
		

			Tell us when you're talking to some of your family or other Christians now and they're just looking
at you and they're like, how can you do that? You know, there's so many different things that Islam
is added
		

			kidding, they'll think they'll think, you know, Islam is about oppressing women, you know, they'll
see you now, you know, in the hijab, and then they'll hear about, you know, so much violence in the
Middle East. All these things, you know, is a list of array of different things that come up many,
much of his mixed, you know, with falsehood, you know, a lot of distortion, lies and whatnot. So how
do you tackle those things? When those tough questions are coming at you? Let's start with one of
them. Like, you know, how can you become a Muslim when Islam oppresses women, for example? That's a
great question. And I do get that, to this day, I get that. I still get that, you know, no one
		

			really says it exactly like that. But you can feel it coming at you. Like, why would you want to be
a Muslim? You're a woman why? We asked a tough question for you.
		

			You did, and I have various answers. But for myself, obviously, I'm not oppressed. I don't feel
oppressed. I don't believe Islam oppresses women, but you have to be
		

			specific in your answer. And that's part of Dawa, as you know, is finding out what the best answer
is for each person what it is, what is the root of their question, what is it fear? Is it curiosity?
Are they trying to mock you? Or, you know, I tried to ask them questions back to find out the root
of their question, and then answer it from there. Because really, there is no pressure. And for
myself, you know, wearing hijab, it's not something I did immediately. It was after the birth of my
son, who's my second child,
		

			that I started wearing hijab. But
		

			to many people's surprise, it wasn't something I discussed with my husband, it wasn't something he
had asked me to do. I woke up one day after many days of praying about it, and I said, You know what
today's take, and I'm gonna wear hijab, so it had nothing to do with him, forcing me to do it, it
was something that was personal and private, between me and Allah.
		

			And do people get surprised when you tell them? And when they find out that Mary, the mother of
Jesus wore hijab, right? And then you see nuns who are the best of Christianity, right, they end up
wearing pretty much was hijab.
		

			I think one thing I've found in you perhaps have as well is that people have,
		

			they have notions that are presented to them that they've heard over and over and they just don't
think outside the box, they haven't thought of it like that. And when you say that to them, they're
like, oh, yeah, you're right. We've been to where like to see pictures of Mary, you know, dress like
this, and, you know, and so forth, you know, something that they hadn't connected with a slam yet
until you do that for them, but it's obvious once you do, and that's a good feeling to see that
light bulb kind of go off in their head, will will go ahead and show them also, this is actually
from a friend of mine. It's a Christian friend who sent me this and inshallah
		

			Patrick, he also I think he's having an affinity towards Islam, but he sent me this and what's your
reaction? We're going to put this up so they can see it? Also. I don't have my glasses. Oh, okay. So
here it says, There's a woman and she's dressed like she's going to the beach. And, and she's saying
that everything covered but her eyes, what a cruel male dominated culture. And then it has the woman
here on the other side, and she's covered up. And then she's thinking about the other woman, nothing
covered, but her eyes. What a cruel male dominated culture.
		

			Well, that hits it right on the head, doesn't it? Yeah. When I go to the beach, which I do, and I'll
be fully covered. And I've gotten over that the stairs and no one's actually ever approached me and
asked me certainly I get looks, but it is.
		

			It's just like, night and day when you see women like that you feel so bad for them? I do
personally, because
		

			they've just been taught this they've been taught that their body is what's the most important thing
about them. And it's something to be proud of. Yes. You know, I'm, I'm proud of the body God gave me
I live in it. I try to take care of it. But I also honor it by respecting it. And part of respecting
it is privacy keeping it for myself and for my husband. And these women don't know that and I just I
feel like when I explain that to people who asked me I've never had anyone on the beach asked me but
I've had people I've had this discussion with women before.
		

			I can see them thinking it over because it really
		

			it is something to think of your body as belonging just to you, but what are you going to do with
that? What are you going to do with that?
		

			that information and we kind of have a discussion from there and it can go some interesting places.
Well, I want to I want to thank you. Thank you for sharing that with us here in just the home of
Bill Clinton. Hmm. Has Has he connected here with the Muslim community? Is there any been? Has
anybody? Has he had any exposure to Muslims and Islam? Do you know anything that's going on with
him? Is he still this is his home base? Hmm. It is. And you know, that, I really don't know. I know
that he did come here. Frequently when he was president. In fact, I met him once. And when my
children were little he, we live out by a golf course. And course he coughed a lot. And I took my
		

			kids and I was in the full hijab, and I had my little kids put them on his lap, and he couldn't have
been kinder or nicer, but it wasn't something my bill Yeah, so you met Bill Clinton here your your
Muslim? Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Nobody said anything or had any effect it was my neighbors who knocked on
my door said you gotta come You gotta come. He's, he's out at the golf course. I have a real good
relationship with my neighbors. And they wanted me to be a part of that. And it's not something we
even thought about that. Yeah, that's the only encounter I ever had. But thank you system, we got
our money. Alloxan to bless you and your journey. Disciple. Hi, salaam alaikum. If you build a
		

			house, imagine for the sake of Allah and return Allah will build a house for you and agenda. That is
the prime minister of our heavy Muhammad sallallahu alayhi wa sallam tell us now. So you've been a
principal here for how long? Seven years? Seven years. So are you excited now for the future project
expansion? Of course. Yes. It's going to be a new building. Nice building.
		

			facility for the kids to play to enjoy their time. Yes, certainly can brother sister how you doing?
I'm here with Josh. How you doing? Josh? Doing all right. How about yourself, and we're walking out
I said Salam aleikum. And he responded well equals Salam? Yes, sir. Sure. How did you learn that?
Um, well, I mean, it's a common term that I've heard growing up, you know, just watching things
like, like we mentioned before Malcolm X, because he was somebody I kind of looked up to, you know,
especially, especially with his mannerisms. Yeah. So, I mean, it's a it's a greeting, and, you know,
so I'd know how to greet back. Yeah. Because I thought because we're here. We're in Little Rock,
		

			Arkansas. And we're actually at this Masjid here. So I thought our brother Josh is, he's Muslim, but
he's not. I was like, What do you wait for it?
		

			And then we talked a little bit, we started talking about Malcolm X, Muhammad Ali. Their roots
actually being Islam. Right, right. So do you what else do you know about Islam? Besides salaam
aleikum? Um, so
		

			besides, besides the hype, sometimes in the media? Oh, yeah. Yeah, I don't I don't even pay
attention to the media too much anyways, with things that's where anything.
		

			But the things I know, I know about the Prophet Muhammad. You know, a lot of other things I know
usually come from the tenants of maybe like the nation Islam. Yeah. A lot of people sometimes
confuse that. Yeah. Right. Right. And I understand the difference with that, you know, it'll be just
like,
		

			trying to think of a good example. But
		

			without being offensive with anything. Oh, no, go ahead. Give it raw. I'd say it'd be just like, if
you look at Christianity, right? You have some groups out there that seem to be a little more, you
know,
		

			extreme in the thoughts. Yeah. And then most would, and my Malcolm X saw this. And when he went to
Hodge, actually, you saw when he came back, you know, what he wrote, he wrote, actually, that when
he came back, he wrote that, you know, if Americans implemented the teachings of Islam, this would
eradicate the racism that we have today. Because he was sitting and praying with the, you know, the
black, the white, the yellow, the also different shapes, sizes and colors, you know, and he got to
see the unity of humanity coming together under the worship of one and only one God. Right, right.
And that change right there. You know, I thought that was an awesome change for him in his life.
		

			Especially, I mean, the change going from where he was where, you know, basically almost a heathen
in prison, to converting to Islam. They helped him, you know, as I feel, I feel that conversion will
help Islam, Christianity, I think those can help because the tenets of those faiths, you know, it's
about love, family, brothers, brotherhood, you know what I mean? So, you know, also a way that you
carry yourself, you know, I think that's important too. And if people carried yourselves that way,
you know, possibly wouldn't be so many in prison right now. You know, one of the main the main core
teaching of Islam is the oneness of God. This is the main thing along with developing yourself to be
		

			the best example of a human being that you can be living by the tenets of Islam, which teaches you
to be an upright and standing morally upright human being but one of the most important teachings is
and we believe that every message that I got on my knees
		

			that came with the same message right worship one God one God alone. This is the main main message
did you ever get to exposure to this teaching this what's called the pure monotheism of Islam? So I
won't say I did
		

			about this one did you know that Muslims believe in love Jesus? Right, right. Cuz I know it was
funny that one, right? I know as far as Islam, Islam goes, he's a prophet, right? Yeah, so mighty
messenger, just like Abraham, no, Moses, knowing all the other messengers, one of the greatest
messengers that that Right, right. And because I know that, according to the teachings is the same,
you know, God of Abraham, yes. Out of Isaac. So
		

			it The similarities are uncanny. You know, but when you think about the world that three major
religions of the world Yeah, so, but yeah, that part, I do know. Yeah. So do you have any questions
for me right now? Anything that's been tickling you in the back anything that you like about Islam
that I can answer? I don't think there's too many questions. You know, I like to absorb things that
say, as I learned as I go on through life, and learn, then, you know, that's when I absorbed stuff.
You know, have you ever read the Quran? So I've never read the curve. I've read pieces of it. I've
never read the whole curve. I'm gonna introduce you. And I'm gonna leave one of these brothers here.
		

			Zaccaria. This is the principle here. Can I see you for a minute? Or I'll do it off. Can I see you
also, who's going to take it upon yourself? Did off come here. And we got the principles. Yes, we
got the whole committee. This is our this is our neighbor and friend, Josh, who's going to never
read the Quran. So I'm gonna leave it to you guys. I'm leaving tomorrow, but I'm gonna leave. I
wanted you guys to get him a translation and maybe some reading materials. So he can go ahead and
look at who's gonna who's who you're gonna do it? Yes, I'll do this. The principal. Have you met him
before? Okay.
		

			All right. So how's that as a gift from me? To you? From them to you? How's that? That's fine. Yeah,
you can look me up at the depot.com. And any questions you ever have. Shoot me an email and I will
hook up again. And I'll answer those questions. Oh, sure. We'll show it was really nice meeting you.
It was good meeting you too. Alright, brother. All right. So a mission statement right now is to
serve a diverse community
		

			to serve a diverse community and build a better future inspired by Islam. Can you tell us a little
about the community here and the current status of the Muslim community in Little Rock, Arkansas. So
Hamdulillah we have a very diverse community here in the city of Little Rock in Arkansas. A lot of
people don't think you know, we have a community but kundala we have a lot of Muslims here. We have
our Friday prayer, we do it. We had to do it in the gym because the masjid has gotten too small for
us. We've we have about 500 people that attend the Friday prayer. We have our school that goes from
infant infant program all the way to the eighth grade, and inshallah we want to keep expanding with
		

			the school. We have our Sunday school, we have our Quran classes, we have our youth programs,
sisters halacha
		

			many, many things that Hamdulillah this this community is doing, we have our programs and we also
have our food food pantry, mashallah I've noticed that you have another project going on. So what
was the need now because you're in one location, but you're moving to another location. Tell us
about that. So the majority of the Muslims that live in the in the city of Little Rock, live on the
west side in the north side of the city, we wanted to have a center complete center that will
accommodate everybody that lives on the west side of the city. It's about the location we chose,
it's about five minutes six minute drive from the majority of the Muslim that live on the west side
		

			of the city hamdulillah and we are growing. Like I said the masjid does not fit us anymore. So we
have to pray in the gym,
		

			our school
		

			you know we want to move to high school and keep expanding to ninth grade 10th grade and so on and
so forth. But we cannot do it in the current location until us I've seen when I went over there you
guys actually started breaking ground. What's the current situation with construction? Yes, so
Alhamdulillah we finished phase one which is getting the ground ready for the buildings we've there
we bought about 10 acres of land we cleared all the trees and we did a lot of site site work and we
also expanded the road Kainos road the land is in really good spot. It's in the heart of West little
rock which is mashallah the newer area where everybody's the growth in the city is on this side. So
		

			now we want to
		

			raise more funds in order to start with with the school building shuttler May Allah bless his
project and inshallah I come back next time I see it all come to a reality and fruition inshallah. I
mean, she's like a lucky
		

			For Amina, and we're so happy to have you here. Thank you very much Sokolova Salaam Alaikum. I
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