The Deen Show – Sonny Bill Williams Exclusive Interview – What I love about Islam

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The speakers discuss the differences between American football and rugby, emphasizing the physicality and skill of the sport. They also discuss struggles with mental health and the importance of hard work and hard work in achieving success. The speakers emphasize the benefits of Islam, including achieving spiritual health and being a good person, and stress the power of words and thoughts to greatly affect one's mental health. They also talk about struggles with underperforming men in society and the success of a new sport, the Rams. The speakers encourage viewers to support them on Patreon and subscribe to the show.

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			You know the thing to do was train hard potty hot you know I mean isn't happy hour anytime I chase
girls that drink alcohol spent lavish sleep from the outside looking in.
		
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			I was the pitcher of success. Sunny Williams out of Australia only thing in this life decision is on
the hit list by some guy, Jake Paul brother Logan Paul. Their god, yes. Good. You know, in Islam the
beauty of Islam is the simplicity of it habibi. You know what I mean? It doesn't matter what color
you are the shade or cover the day.
		
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			Big fan of you guys were Bismillah Alhamdulillah wa salam aleikum. greetings of peace. Welcome to
the deen show. I'm Edie your host subscribe if you haven't already hit that notification bell. So
you can get all of our upcoming coming shows in my next guest is one of the greatest players to ever
played the sport of rugby. He was only the second player to ever represent New Zealand Rugby Union
after first playing for the country and rugby league. Sonny Bill Williams was also inducted into the
rugby pass Hall of Fame in 2021.
		
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			And he's one of the only 21 players to have won the Rugby World Cup twice. Throughout his long and
illustrious career. Sonny Bill Williams has won almost every trophy on offer in the sport.
		
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			But there is something greater that he loves more than any of these things. And that's what we're
going to be talking about here on the D show on my next special guest, Sonny Bill Williams I might
convert to Islam right now.
		
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			Salam aleikum wa barakato while equals Salam Rahmatullah uncut made a peace mercy and blessings of
the creditor has an herb be upon you. So nice to have you with us around the law. We made it yes, we
made firstly, straight off the bat on blue, sorry,
		
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			being a couple of notes shows, but I've been extremely busy lately and humbly we're here. Good to
have you here, my brother. So there was that we hit that introduction right
		
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			over the top of the top but I love what you said at the end something that is more important than
anything, and it's Allah subhanaw taala is blessing and he's blessing one of my eldest daughters
just say salaam aleikum.
		
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			wa salam, masha Allah,
		
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			early morning here in Australia, habibi. So the kids will be coming, waking up and getting ready for
school. But yeah, humbly. Allah's blessings. This. That's what I tried to struggle number. Tell us
before we get into what you love the most, for just for help us understand for us ignorant, folks,
what's the difference between American football and rugby?
		
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			Both very, very physical, violent games at times, but very skillful games at the same time, as well.
And I think the big differences, we play the game that you guys play with that PIDs without huge
gears without shoulder pads without five periods. So some would say where were the crazy version of
the NFL? That's like the MMA version of football is probably you could say that. Yeah. But there's a
lot of I'm, I'm a Polynesian, my father's of Samoan heritage. So you would go you would see a lot of
my people playing in the NFL because we're naturally I was blessed that people with me with physical
gifts, you know, we're naturally big, strong.
		
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			Athletic people
		
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			Subhanallah so that's like, you know, we see the football here American football and you got the
helmets the padding. So just take all that off. And that's rugby in this pretty much
		
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			these a few other subtleties to the game, but yeah, you could say that but Subhanallah so let's get
into this quote from you. It was really powerful. I actually also shared it some time ago. And let's
see what comes to your mind I want you to react to something you wrote yourself. And it was went
like this I chase girls that drink alcohol spent lavishly and thought I was someone that I wasn't
what did it give me hollowness emptiness in my heart but I found Allah God Almighty and I found
Islam submission to God. Sonny Bill Williams when you hear me read that what comes to your mind?
		
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			These are the cover they
		
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			agreed
		
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			Now a big fan of you guys work firstly, sorry when I say state's saying it at the outset, but if we
can revise them, I wouldn't use it. I mean,
		
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			it's you and your loved ones, myself gave me gives me shivers shivers up my spine because
		
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			you know, that was my life.
		
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			I didn't,
		
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			you know, I, I strove so hard from a, I guess, sporting perspective to make something of myself in
the sporting world because, you know, growing up, I grew up in a house. We call it Housing
Commission household here. So
		
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			the, you know, I wouldn't say the projects but
		
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			subsidized by the government in my mom and dad both work, low income jobs have up
		
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			our house, for example, we had no wallpaper on the walls, Mom and Dad slipped in the lounge room,
just so we could have a bedroom for ourselves, me and my siblings. But through that struggle,
		
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			it gave me that perseverance in a real simple outlook in life that if I can end you know, in that
space, and have uncles or Auntie's, or anyone in a, in a high income job, not living that life, so I
didn't have I couldn't look at my uncle and say, Oh, my father and say, oh, I want to strive to be
like that I want to get I want to get that job because it's gonna give us a good income or whatnot.
You know,
		
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			a lot of my uncles were in gangs growing up. So I didn't really have that have that person of
prevalence or, or in a position of influence to strive to be.
		
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			But humbling. I went to school and I was I was good at sport. I was an athletic person, very
athletic person, I was good at this game club rugby league by being
		
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			your the American viewers wouldn't be aware of that game. But it's like NFL that the paired saw was
really good at that humbler and I put all my effort into that, because I saw on TV players playing
on TV that looked like me.
		
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			So I connected with it straight away. And I thought my simplistic outlook in my naive outlook was,
if I can play on TV, then I'll be able to, then I'll be able to buy mama house wallpaper. And that's
that and that drove me that that simplistic message
		
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			drove me to the heights that I reached in the US in the sporting field at such a young age. And with
that came, money came
		
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			attention from the opposite *. But
		
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			although I was from a physical point of view, very strong, ready to take on the world, mentally, I
was I will, I didn't have anything I was very insecure I was I wasn't equipped to deal with the
stress the those heights and what came with with our feet of me, so I really struggled in that
sense. And that's why I made that statement. I was at a time where from the outside looking in
		
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			I was the pitcher of success in the western world we call it you know, your got fame and wealth and
		
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			was able to buy mom that house wallpaper. I had a flash car.
		
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			I had had a lot of attention from the opposite *, but I didn't know how to, I guess.
		
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			I wasn't confident in myself as a man, you know. And I was just a follow up brother was just a
follow up follow because these guys that I looked up to, on TV, I was all of a sudden in the same
dressing room with him. You know, the thing to do was train hard party hard. You know, and it's what
I thought and it led me down a bad pathway where I ended up in a space where I didn't know what
mental health was back then. You know, but when looking back now I was I was in almost close to
depression.
		
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			And because my will consisted of a que I felt like I was a good person, but I couldn't speak
consisted of just me what's in it for me, you know, how do I move about this world for me? What am I
going to get out of this? Why am I feeling like this? Why do I have a nice car and the opposite six
is attention then. And I'm living in a nice house. But while my su said, you know, and humbly I
stumbled upon Islam, and humble humbly, it taught me that
		
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			when you live for something greater than oneself, you know, giving you receive sort of giving your
time, whether it be through charity, or, you know, humbly Hamdulillah I could sit here and talk
about Islam or they fought for the benefits that it's given me it's given me a structure, you know,
it's given me boundaries. It's given me
		
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			a different such a beautiful outlook in life Habibi, where, you know, I know where my bases for
example, over the weekend, have
		
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			The others blessed me with a job where I'm talking about the game that I love growing up growing up
a commentary of a commentary gig, but I was able to take my family with me up Queensland.
		
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			So, you know, a few days on the go
		
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			but I know that I guess spiritually Islamically I'm still doing my prayers and whatnot but I'm not
on the on the pulse. So I know where my bases are this morning humbly Get up you do for me my bases.
I know I'm doing well I know I'm on the path when I'm going Fajr and Isha at the masjid. You know,
so you start the day off work, right. And that's one of the beauties of Islam is it has given me a
structure that I've been able to put my whole heart and soul into, and it's given me given me back
tenfold, you know, the Hadith, you take this step towards Allah, it takes 10 steps or two steps back
towards you, I really feel that
		
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			Subhanallah this deep, you know, what you were saying? So, you talk about the
		
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			getting your mother what you wanted the paint the house with the wallpaper, you know, these good
goals, these dreams, but then you get hit with, you know, the things that come with success. And
then, you know, these are the kinds of things that people, they strive and they think that okay, if
I get this, that's it, I'm going to be happy. Now you achieve all that you got the money and all the
other things that men like and what happens there's still a void there, huh? It's still not filled
until finally you talk about another call. When I found this soft slump it helped in changing
wildness in my life into positivity.
		
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			It's, you know, I feel like and I feel like that's why I'm not spoken in some ways you know, my
		
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			the beauty of Islam is the simplicity of it habibi. You know what I mean? It doesn't matter what
color you are, you know, the Prophet peace be upon
		
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			His last talk to the Ummah, where he talks about non error, doesn't matter what cut, you know, non
Arab or arable. You know, for me, that hits home, it hits the heart, and my wildness is allowed, I
guess that wildness or that, you know, that that streak of I've been able to turn that into
positivity, where I walk that path as much as I can, without,
		
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			without fear, because I feel it No, no, I feel the creative appropriation. And when I'm on that
buzz, as you would know, brother, you know, you know, that whatever happens as soon as it comes from
Allah subhanaw taala. So, you know, you're not fearful when being able to speak up for injustice, as
we see it, as I see it, sorry. But then also understanding, having that humbleness and understanding
that I will make mistakes to that I do make mistakes and I will continue to make mistakes. But as
long as I'm seeking Allah's forgiveness, I'm okay. You know, so there's that there's been times when
I've where I've come out, and I've said, said things, thinking that it was the right thing to do.
		
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			But then I've understood that, that I was wrong, you know, and I've come out and apologized, but at
the same time, I'll always stand up for what I think is right. And,
		
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			you know, sometimes now we're in a place in society where just just just being a good person, you
know,
		
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			sometimes performance, sometimes if I'm out in public in, you know, you'll see an old lady carrying
bags, you go up and say, Oh, look, would you like me to carry Tikka? They almost look at you, like,
You're crazy, like, you know, but you're just trying to be a good person. You're strong pilots
blessings, you know, sometimes I feel like we looked at, like, a rageous. But I always feel like,
you know,
		
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			this limb has taught me so much about life. And in everything starts in the heart, everything starts
in the heart in for me, you know, when I see a person that I think or he might be a Muslim, or, you
know, he might not be, you know, I just put the, I just have that wildness about me. I'm like Salaam
Alaikum. Brother, and they look at me firstly, and they're like, you don't look like Muslim. But I'm
Muslim, salaam, Allah, you know, and it's a it's a mad feeling. So
		
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			yeah.
		
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			There was another call you talk about I, I'm sorry. Sorry, there wasn't, there was another quote
from you. And there's so many beautiful ones that you say I find peace and happiness and doing my
prayer. And then just, you know, looking around us I tried to connect with, let's say, people of
influence who are out there. And you probably interact with a lot of different celebrities, one
whose life is broadcasted. Now, it's almost become like a circus, you know, and you can't help but
feel sorry, you know, for certain individuals, and you want guidance for them, you know, you you
want the best for humanity. Right? And that's real love. So if you were to hang out now with
		
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			somebody whose life is just he talks about openly about, you know, doing drugs and testified a
couple days ago that you had done just about every kind of drug there was by age 13 or 14 Right 1515
		
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			And you've
		
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			you found that drugs are the only way to numb your pain? Right?
		
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			They've always been a medicine from a yes and numbing agent. And you said yesterday that in fact, I
think you said you take drugs to numb the demons right?
		
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			I don't know that I said to numb the demons but I have, well, if I did say demons drinking, and you
would sometimes drink whiskey in the mornings to write
		
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			during this time period.
		
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			I
		
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			you know, I mean, isn't happy hour anytime.
		
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			And that cocaine that those white lines those are cocaine that's cocaine right.
		
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			I will assume Yeah. And that's that's your cocaine that you kept in that box that says Property of
JD with a skull and crossbones, isn't it? Well, the beautiful composition of the photograph would
suggest that certainly, and he's, he's going through so much now, Mr. Johnny dept. Right? What is
that the kind of like when we look back at your life, you know, what you were, you know, going
through that wildness, and do you think now if he just did what you were doing, like connecting it
with the prayer, just putting your head down on the ground, you know, you know, be seeking help from
the Creator of the heavens in the earth? You know, you think this would help you know, if you can
		
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			get some of what you got. Now, you know, that prices give that money can't buy but you can get it
for free. What would you say to someone if you're hanging out with someone like Johnny Depp, and
he's going to you see what he's going through right now. It was a mess. I was a wreck. I was
		
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			shaking, and I just didn't understand why. And then I looked down and
		
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			realized that the the, the tip of my finger had been severed.
		
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			And
		
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			I was looking directly at
		
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			my bones, cigarette.
		
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			And
		
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			this is after the finger had
		
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			gone away.
		
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			And she stubbed it out in my in my face and on my cheek didn't
		
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			hit you across the face in a proper slot. But I was hitting him without punching you. You're not
punched? Don't tell me what it feels like to be punched. You know, even a lot of fights been around
a long time. No.
		
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			You didn't get punched? You got hit. I'm sorry. I hit you like this. But I did not punch you. I did
not deck you. I was hitting you. I don't know what the motion of my actual hand was. But you're
fine. I did not hurt you. And enough punch you I was hitting you so funny.
		
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			I did start a physical fight. You did? Because yes, you did. You did the right thing. The big thing.
You know you're admirable. Well, you know, it's funny, because what led me to Islam, besides
meeting, you know, the influential of the few influential people in my, in my life, that helped me
learn and step into
		
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			it, take this lamb was
		
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			trying to help myself. I read many, many self help books, you know, read so many.
		
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			But, you know, some of Tony Robbins, know, everything, everything, everything. I've read about 30
books, I'd say when I was going through my struggles, but then when I found Islam was like, somewhat
alone, like this caters for all of those books in one, you know. So for me, I would say in terms of
the struggles that we have in the dunya the crypto is the Quran and the Hadith of the Prophet peace
be upon him, you know, whether it is you know, like, for example, Salah, you talk about salah
		
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			you know, I'm a bit of a deep thinker. So when I think about salah, I think about five times and I
put it in the context of the self help book because, you know, not everyone for us when we're
talking it's easy, because humbly, you know, our point of reference is what Allah subhanaw taala in
the guidance that we have, but when you're talking to a non believer or someone that doesn't know
Islam, I always try and put it into that context where I was when I was a little bit lost or
searching for something because Subhanallah how we've been created. We all want to belong, you're
searching for something, you know, they say our midlife crisis or whatever it is, you come to a
		
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			point Iran comes to a point where they're like, What is this world? What is this dunya The only
thing in this life for certain is that so why am I actually here, you know, but just that point solo
five times a day, I always say five times a day I strive to pray with my heart, not just my limbs.
And when you're doing that when you're in the most vulnerable
		
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			ball position, you can be hit in social,
		
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			beautiful, you know,
		
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			in that position,
		
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			naturally you're in and you're doing it with the sincerity in your heart, naturally, you're grateful
for whatever you have, you know, it might be just that little date that you get to have hooked
during, during Ramadan and in a glass of water Subhanallah they're little they taste like the, the
best food you've ever had, as you know, but you know, so, for me,
		
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			being in social, or making Salomaa, I'm grateful. I'm grateful for everything, um, you know, I'm
grateful for the wealth and has given me you know, because it's allowed me to help my close ones,
it's allowed me to live a life that and affect people in the way that I would love to affect people.
It's and I think humbly for the, for the blessings of my children, you know, that to be to be anyone
can be anyone, you know, a lot of people can be parents. But it takes time and effort and
persistence, to be a great parent, or good parents, you know, so, you know, just things like that,
like, I sit in it. And those are the things that you think of, well, that I, when I was reading
		
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			about reading the self help books was, you know, you should implement a bit of,
		
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			you know,
		
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			contemplate during the day or think about things that show you the gratitude aspect of life, we took
all of those boxes, we took a lot of these things when we prayed for, and we do it five times a day,
you know.
		
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			So that's the things I would probably say to Johnny Depp is,
		
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			you know,
		
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			keep an open mind.
		
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			And just have a read, you just just reminded me of myself getting home at two, three in the morning,
and the infomercials will come on. And when you started talking about self help books, I remember
Tony Robbins and I was in that same state, you know, I'm just searching searching. And then I went
and I bought back then it was like, it was this the the DVDs, CDs, CD set, DVD set, and I bought the
whole 30 volumes and that and he's got a lot of good stuff in there. But it's nothing like what
you're talking about. The mind in your heart today will be your guiding light for tomorrow when you
have allah God, the Creator of the heavens on Earth with you, you don't need anyone else. You know,
		
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			this is really deep, like, you know, when you when you have because people turn towards everything
else. But you're singling out you're saying, you know, when you have the creator with you. It's kind
of like what Muhammad Ali was saying, you know, I don't need nobody, I'm not scared of nobody. But
the one that I love the most the one I fear the most God Almighty and you're just reiterating this
the same thing, you know what I mean? But it's powerful, you know, people understand, can you
comment on this? Also, this what was going through your mind when you made this decision? Well, you
know, a lot of the times I will tweet random thoughts
		
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			just come from the masjid or Fajr we shall
		
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			just have a real like moment of normal. I feel like I've got a moment of North light in the heart.
And
		
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			I also feel like, I feel like I'm in alignment. You know, I'm a real simplistic guy. And those are
the messages that hit my heart or when I'm thinking I'm like, You know what, that's actually a map
point or
		
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			you know, and the beauty of social media you know, there's a lot of cons to social media, but
there's other pros too, when used in the right way. And I just put the vulnerability head on heavy
and I'm like this is how I feel when
		
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			you know I feel like
		
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			when I'm in the streets even you know non Muslims come up to me and they're like, man like your
messages are powerful like and I'm like, hold those messages are just simple simplicity simple ones
from coming from a simple sportsman. You know, are you connected with purchase? Salam aleikum? Stan,
I connected I connected with coaches that would have the simplistic messages. You know, like I
played the simple game. Sometimes people like to overcomplicate this game, we're in life we live a
simple life. It can be as simple as sorry, but we overcomplicated with wanting this that that this
that want this and I need this and I need that not when you bring it back down and in need to
		
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			simplify it. As long as I got that.
		
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			As long as I'm striving for the creator's respect I'll get the creations respect no doubt is that
what when you talk about simplicity is that what finally had you accept Islam when you looked into
it that the simple message of worshiping one and only one God and being morally upright simple
message simple it understand this 100% You know, I grew up I didn't grow up in a religious
household, but I grew up with a lot or with all my close friends. Were pretty much Polynesian
		
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			In this
		
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			beat religious households, so you know, I believe in God, the beauty in the key of Islam was
		
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			one called Allah subhanaw taala. You know, this the point of reference for me is there's no, in the
other thing I love about Islam was that there's no gray areas, you know, I love the fact that there
should be separate separation, you know, we go to a wedding, Islamic reading in the minute and one
room in a woman and one. You know, I love that because I come from a place where it's a free for
you. I've been in situations where you hang out with other couples in, I've seen, you know, some of
some meats in that with other meats, partners and whatnot. So I've seen the struggles of that. But
so for me, I look, I look at it like that. It's it's a beautiful thing. When I'm getting ready with
		
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			my wife. I'm like, My love will look good. She's like, you look good. She's like Mala Toluca, and
Allah handily, you look beautiful. Like, alright, go to the wedding. And I know that I'm just
looking good word. And then I go and hang out with the boys, you know what I mean? She goes, hangs
out with the ladies. So, you know, I look at it from other simple man, I understand the struggles of
under strength to understand the beautiful, beautiful and the wisdom behind it. Because I've seen
the struggles, if that makes him what that makes tight. I mean, and I'm just really, I'm elated that
someone like yourself, who would come out and you know, to mention that because it's something that
		
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			goes what we say, the fitrah and Lita and you know, this is that protective jealousy. This goes
within the MAT, the nature the, the natural way, and a lot of times we just get it gets, it gets
convoluted and it gets confusing because social pressure and things are acceptable in society and
that but you know, a lot of the even a lot of conservative Christians and a lot of people who, you
know, who can identify with this and just people of God consciousness, you know what you're just
saying, but they don't have, you know, a voice and Avenue because they've accepted everything else
that out there is normal. And now your your, you know, so many people what you what you said they
		
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			would identify with this, you know, it's it's very, very deep, very deep. I want to go into my next
question here. It seems like tell us about we heard that your your life is at stake. You're on some
kind of hitless sunny Williams out of Australia. So there's a lot of people on the hit list by some
guy, Jake, Paul, brother, Logan, Paul, what's going on there? You gotta gotta hit on you.
		
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			Well, I wouldn't say hit.
		
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			It's kind of funny me being in the fight game, because I feel like I'm such a loving guy, you know.
		
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			And I don't really have animosity to anyone and, and I just love people doing well. And when it
comes to Jake Paul, I love what he's what he's done as a fighter, because he's come from you as a
YouTuber. But with with persistence with work ethic.
		
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			And with time, you easy. He's worked himself up to be pretty, pretty good, pretty decent. So I
respect I respect the grind, because I'm exactly the same grind the same way, you know.
		
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			But yeah, for me, I understand too, that this in this sport, it's a business. And when I hear him
mentioning him, or his people when himself mentioning my name, I understand he's, he's got the
American market and
		
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			whatnot, but I think they wanted to tap into the Australasian market.
		
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			And my last fight humbly, my last fight done really well with the Pay Per View numbers and whatnot,
and, and I have a feeling that his people would have got wind of that. So when they're speaking
dollars and cents, of course, they want to reach out and get into this market. So I just said, you
know,
		
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			if you want to come down here, we play, we play sport, we play rugby league, the NFL version, we're
both here to if you want to come down here here, it will be a great experience, because I respect
what you do, but they will be your first loss to, you know, just a bit of tongue in cheek.
		
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			Yeah, I actually did a video where I was inviting his older brother, Logan, Paul, because he was
talking a little bit about religion and Islam. There God, yes, good. You know, in Islam, Allah is
the god and Judaism. Jesus is the God and
		
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			Jesus is not God. He never called people to worship him. As a God as a literal Son of God. He called
people to worship the one God alone without associates. And he also warned people of the hellfire
and he gave the glad tidings of paradise, eternal life in the next Paradise, and so did all the
other messengers. They came with that same message not
		
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			contradictory messages. One coming and saying, Worship Me, the other one coming worship the sun.
		
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			And the other one won't come was saying worship the moon the other one is saying worship money. No,
that's where you're confused. Because I'm I'm confused. Now there are videos specific video inviting
him you know, to Islam. Maybe we can we can go ahead if you get to connect with him you can go ahead
and share some of this so we can get this message to his little brother Jake Pom, invite him also to
the dean to Islam of course
		
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			inshallah
		
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			Well, you know, it's outrageous to think sometimes when you sit that you think there are you know,
Islam Jake Paul, Islam, his brother but you know I look at it like for myself Allah, Allah wills who
he wants, you know?
		
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			And I would never have thought a grown up that I wouldn't be a female Muslim. Well humbly I'm here
now humbly
		
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			you know, so anything's possible so this lovely
		
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			This is my this is my eldest who is a
		
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			system
		
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			that could you talk about, you are searching for something becoming a muslim, was the best thing I
could have ever happened to you.
		
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			And even your best friend was your teammate when your teammate was an offer? How do you use?
		
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			Yes, and he's quoting here this is one of the passages from the verbatim Word of God Almighty Allah
the Quran, this is an English the meaning barely with every hardship comes ease, had the most
amazing experience visiting my Muslim brothers in hospital on the weekend. I'm inspired and draw. So
this is one of your teammates, and he actually, he would you ever think that he actually would also
accept this line? Here? Subhan Allah Subhan Allah and it wasn't,
		
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			you know,
		
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			I was actually Salam.
		
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			So not just him, but your mother, your mother, also that right? You had a lot of your friends your
mother also accepted Islam. Is that right? My mom accepted. Islam, my brothers accepted Islam to a
lot of it is just probably been through the way that they've seen it affect the same effect my life
and take my life in such a positive way.
		
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			Excuse me with that within the not the wrong time. But it's in the morning rush, you know?
		
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			And with offered Xanga fasciae. Yeah, he was just on the plane once and I had a
		
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			I had a, what was what becomes of the book of how to heal a broken heart. I think he has mean, I've
got the last name, but it's a beautiful book. It's a beautiful book. Anyway, I was sitting there
reading in your City Spotlight, it just happened to be sitting next to me. And when we started
getting talking, it was like, Frank was with your blacks. So we flew from New Zealand, I think we're
finally UK. So it was a long, long, long, long flight. And we're talking about it and then I end up
it's asking about the book and I just gave him the book, you know what it's like, but if anyone
chooses a little bit of interesting, and what we're about you so you know you want because you want
		
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			the feeling that you have for anyone else. Yes, given the book. And then Subhanallah usually with
with with rugby,
		
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			and the All Blacks, the backs always room with the backs in the fours room with the fours but
someone on this trip, they said, Oh, we're going to mix it up. The backs are going to be ruined with
the forwards this trip. And who do they? Who was my roommate
		
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			of photographer see. And you know, we got on well, oh, he was always a lovely guy. But we never
really connected in a deep way. And and James from the opposite team. Now we're on the same team,
same team never connected before. We want to we're not actually we were on the same team too. But we
never really like it was like Hey, brother, Hey, bro. You know, how's family, everyone's good. You
know that a lot, like, you know, but it wasn't we'd never sit down or go for a feed or hang out or
you know what I mean? And then we ended up rooming together that weekend. So Paula, you know, he's a
brother now and
		
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			he's a really good guy, he's still playing for the All Blacks. So whenever you can in the in the
sporting world in the sporting context,
		
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			dwell for for better or for longer fasci to do well on the footy field so because he's doing really
well and in representing us on that on that highest level.
		
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			Well, I want to I want to thank you very much front end time and sharing some of the highlights and
of your life and God willing and Shallot is gonna be a benefit so many so many people out there can
be from the Johnny Depp's to the Johnny's to the Mikey's to, you know, to Logan, Paul's whatever,
because on the outside like you You were you were looking all good, right? But from the inside your
heart was searching for something more and you found it now and you're sharing that and it's
illuminating from you and it's something you can see you love talking about. And that's the
beautiful thing. I want to commend you because there's a lot of people and there's different levels,
		
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			obviously, you know, and everybody's a different phase in their life. But you know, you could be the
strongest, toughest person, but sometimes people you know, they're scared to go ahead and you know,
to talk about certain things and, you know, you just, you know, just to be like Muhammad Ali out
there. He loved talking about Islam, he loved talking about his credo
		
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			In sha Allah you can continue that legacy and use what God Almighty Allah gave you to go ahead and,
you know, make a good positive difference out there in the world in sha Allah, Minami Allah brother
and thank you for having me on your show. It's been a long time coming up big supporter because a
lot of people with us in Allah rewatches Thank you, my brother so much. May Allah bless you, Dr.
Hyde.
		
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			And that was our special guest Sonny Bill Williams and I'm going to thank you Sunday for being with
us here on the deen show. So you could be the Johnny Depp's of the world you can be the Logan Paul's
and Jake Paul's doesn't matter you can have all the money and the fame but at the end of the day,
just like Sonny Bill Williams he had all those things but he was empty inside and nothing will fill
that void except what the way of life because truly in the remembrance of your credo the credit
Heavens and Earth God Almighty Allah do hearts find satisfaction they find rested they find peace
they find contentment so you try it all the coke and a dope and the drinks and the drugs and all
		
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			that other stuff. You've had all the fancy cars you tried everything you put it here you put it
there you put it everywhere. Why don't you try
		
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			be brave be courageous besieging the One who created you saying though all loving the most kind the
most? The One who created me to create a creation guide me guide me guide me? Very simple. And it's
what I like Sonny Bill Williams. You know what he talked about? Islam, it was simple to understand
worship the Creator, not the creation be morally upright, simple, not convoluted, not complicated.
And if you could start with that homework, and then I'd like to give you a free gift. Go to the D
show.com. And get your free copy of the Koran. And we'll be here to help you along your way. We'll
see you next time subscribe you haven't or if you haven't already, and continue to tune into the D
		
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