The Deen Show – Patrick Bet-David – What Muslims & Christians Have in Common – Response
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Theist-arian Muslims and their faith in Islam have led to success in addressing issues such as divorced couples, gay marriage, and gay hate groups. Theist-arian Muslims stress the importance of protecting their religion and building a coalition to win. The segment also touches on the diversity of the LGBTQ community and the fear of unfair war. The speakers emphasize the importance of giving alternative options to people who accept Islam and the need for passionate people to fight evil behavior. The Bible is not a place for anyone to be in, and anyone can say they believe in it.
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Salam Alaikum greetings of peace. How you guys doing? When you look at the Muslim community? I want to start off with saying, Patrick, ben David has come a long way regarding Muslims and Islam. And we commend him for that Muslims have the lowest percentage of divorces, lowest percentage of divorces, how they feel about abortion, how they feel about LGBTQ, all of that stuff. Muslims have a conservative belief. Recently, I think Andrew Tate was one of the first one of the first Muslims to be on his show, you can't say that Islam isn't the most successful religion on earth. It's the most successful in regards to opposing evils, the most successful in regards to opposing its differing
viewpoints. It's the most successful in regards to having people act within the the limits and the confines of what it finds to be moral and good to God. It's the most adhered to. And now we see him going in a great direction, trying to get people to think more about what Muslims and Christians have in common. And I think he's going in the right direction. And what if Muslims and Christians come together and say, look, let's set aside Prophet Muhammad and Jesus, we know what you believe in, we know what we believe in. But listen, when it comes down to these issues with family, let's you know, one key point I'm going to get into right off the bat, is that we as Muslims, we don't
have to put Jesus to decide, you got to know that because as Muslims, it's an article of faith to believe and love Jesus, we love Jesus, do you understand that? We believe that he was one of the mightiest messengers sent by God Almighty. We believe in his miraculous birth, we believe he was the Messiah. We believe that he did many wondrous miracles by the permission of God Almighty to prove that he was indeed a messenger of God. And if you deny Jesus, you say any disrespectful thing about Jesus, this can land you into the Hellfire as a Muslim, we believe this. So the same way, we would go ahead and defend Prophet Muhammad peace and blessings be upon him. As one of the tape brothers
says Tristan Tate, the Muslim world is a part of the world where you could not walk around and freely insult Jesus. So I feel perfectly at home in the Middle East. And so let's get into this episode of what Muslims and Christians have in common with Patrick. I will say this, I would much rather work with a Muslim parent association than an LGBTQ organization. This is good to see they acknowledge that many Christians are starting to see the benefits that can come from working together with Muslims on these issues that are facing our families, our children and us working together these two guys, two communities.
Imagine all of a sudden a liberal has to defend a Muslim with pure values. They're also saying we're seeing the contradictions with some politicians unfortunately, who claim to be Muslim, but are doing opposite to Islam. You see Ilan Omar tap dance around this whenever she gets asked questions about this trance stuff. Good afternoon, Twin Cities Brian, how are you?
I am so excited to be here with you all to kick off this beautiful weekend and to celebrate all of the diversity of the LGBTQ community Happy Pride everyone. Let me touch upon this thing most some Americans have animosity toward Krishna Krishna is towards Islam. There's an understandable fear that that American Muslims have animosity towards American Christians and vice versa. This is generally this is not the case. This is not true. except in cases where you have on fairly missiles have been unfairly targeted, discriminated against unfairly bombed unjust wars like the weapons of mass destruction you guys know about this and how many millions of Muslims killed unjustly? So under
this lie is a great documentary Dirty Wars you can watch this so otherwise Muslims live by this this verse from the Quran or God guide MIT is clearly saying that he does not forbid you for dealing fairly and justly with those who have not fought you because your religion or driven you out of your homes, Muslims are 99% in a green what why? So say why is there that well, division between the tooth so what's one of it is is a is a unders is a theological and I share some of this right? Belief that radical Muslims want to bring Sharia to the United States. And that's why you got to have a Muslim on the program, Patrick to go and discuss these things. But I'm just ask you a
question. What is Sharia? Do you even know what it should? It is? How about if I just give you a few things to think about? Moses? 10 commandments? What do you think about that? You know, she has mentioned over 200 plus times in the actual Bible. This is the Divine Law, God's law and what is God's law in the studio, what God's law come to do? Let me just define some things go over some things. It came to preserve life, human life, it came to preserve the lineage of the family, your heart to keep to preserve your heart, mind, your intellect, your wealth, your religion, your connection with your Creator, the pure monotheism. Now after you get to know these things, and you
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Since the foundations of Islam, God's law, Sharia, would you rather live by that? And most people when these things are explained, they usually agree with it their innate nature agrees with these. Would you rather live with that? Or with what he's talking about here? What's happening? Let's pretend you think that Muslims want an authoritarian regime, you're already living under one. You're living under a trans authoritarian regime. And here's a group of people that want to smash that regime. Wouldn't it be nice to build a coalition for so this is interesting, Patrick goes on to talk about relaying a story that happened with his Muslim friend. It's nice that he has actually I
believe he has a Muslim friend here. But love him may love his wife, Naveen, good people.
So he starts talking about Muslims, America, Israel, Republican Christians. And this guy is a hard core conservative. Yeah, maybe more a hardcore conservative than a Muslim. And I'd seen something because he is a Muslim and a proud one. Okay, let's stop right here. Let's look this up. What is a conservative talks about conservative? Let's look at very basic definition. Here, I look it up. It says averse to change or innovation and holding on tradition, traditional values, averse to change. And what that is a very important point here that you distinguish between religion, innovation in worldly matters, technology, etc, etc. Or then in religion, no, you cannot change the origin and add
to it. It's perfect. God Almighty says this, they have perfected your religious in the Quran and are chosen for you, what God Almighty chosen for you, Islam submission to the will of God submission to the will of God. This is what Islam is you cannot add to it, delete it. And what traditional values that we talked about, we talked about traditional values of let's start with Abraham, for example, he wasn't a Jew or a Christian, he was one who again submitted his will to the will of God, he was morally upright, holding on to those traditional values. Yes, we're for it, holding on to the traditional moral values of Jesus's mother for our Jesus, the way he prayed, the way he treated his
neighbor, the way his mother dressed the moral, the morality of herself, how she was a chaste woman holding on to those traditional values. Absolutely 100%. Here we say according to this definition, but we don't change the religion to suit the time to suit man changing things. So you can go ahead and have all of these things is going on, for instance, selling out God's selling out your religion. No, this is what this is one of the things that attracted me to people like Andrew Tate and others, to Islam, that its strict adherence to the book to the Quran and the Sunnah, as we call it to the Divine Law, not man's subjective desires. No. And this isn't very important thing here is that we
would say according to this, we are more conservative, according to this definition, than a conservative holding on to these traditional values of goodness that God Almighty had revealed and more Christian and the Christian think about that one, the way we go ahead and greets just starting from that simple things like this in the Bible, it says Jesus, he would greet Peace be with you shall I believe we are more league from holding on to the beard, for instance, from the way Jesus now moving along the way he fasted we fast the way Jesus prayed, and he fell on his face and he prayed, look it up. It's in the Bible, Matthew 2639. And he went a little further and he fell on his
face and prayed, find me another group of people who was praying like Jesus prayed. And more importantly, so who did he pray to? If you look at the for the Lord's Prayer, Our Father who art in heaven, hallowed be thy name, thy kingdom come, thy will be done. He's praying to the Almighty to the Creator. This is the submission to the will of God die will be done. This is Islam. So yes, we are holding on to the most conservative values. And also, we would say even more Christian than the Christian. And he's the kind that converts. He's not a kind that just talks about it. So he's the kind that converts and he converts Christians. Here's interesting, he talks about he's the kind that
converts. He is not the one who just just talks about, he's pretty much he's pretty much given down. This is the invitation that we just it's not our job to convert Muslim jobs not to convert anybody. God Almighty, is the one who guides the hearts just as I often say, if you care you share. So it's us to give the alternative. And to give the solution to many of the world's problems. And it's up to you if you'd like it, you accept it. If you don't you reject it. That's all that this man is also doing. And it true says clear from error. And when it comes it makes sense. It makes sense from the pure monotheism to all of the other things, the rules and regulations that are there for the
preservation of the family, society, humanity. And this is what the Dow is what his friend is doing. And whoever you are brother, the brother who's Patrick min, David's friend, I'd like to meet you, I like to have you on whoever can make the connection make it happen. He goes on to talk about the growing number of people accepting Islam, especially women. I think the number was shown on how many Americans have converted to Muslim the numbers like 20,000 Christian
tons of which 75% are women that have 25% on men. This is interesting it says converted to Muslim small correction here, not a big deal we say converted or reverted to Islam. And every child is born on the pure fitrah. This is what we say that every child, all of the creation, from the baby in the womb, to the mountains, to the birds, to the bees, the seven seas, everything has come in complete submission to the crater, the heavens and earth and when that child grows up, everything now around him is a push him in this direction in that direction. But if that child was to be left alone, it would grow up to go ahead and submit to one and only one God if he was on an island by himself. If
he was in a mountain somewhere and no religion came to him, he would be on the pure fitrah that is, he would be a Muslim one who submits to the will of God Almighty, not to a statue not to a stick to a stone, nothing but the Creator to have as an Earth. And just to give this definition, even more clarity of Jesus came back today and you asked him what religion I knew we wouldn't expect him to say Christianity, because if he did that, you'd ask him what sect of Christianity which one Roman Catholic, Anglican, Presbyterian Lutheran Jehovah Witness, he would say my religion is a total submission to the will of God. This is a lengthy definition. But in one word, this is a slab of
which 75% are women. This by itself this point, this factor to statistic should go ahead and dispel that myth by itself that Islam oppresses women, because Why would women come to a way of life or religion that oppresses them? No, they are coming for true freedom. And they're finding that in Islam, there's a good part here where he acknowledges why Muslims would be upset. But But no, no, you're right. Christians West relax, like, Hey, we got 800 military bases in the world. We're in everyone's frickin business. Of course, you're gonna piss people off. You want to know about everyone's business, everyone's divorced. Leave my marriage alone. Of course, you're going to create
enemies, okay? And what are the things that we're getting people to think? What are the things that we have in common we can agree upon so we can unite for the greater good. Now we have a mutual understanding and agreement. What do we agree on? Family values and principles? Why don't we unite here and all the other stuff guess what Muslims? Here he touched upon the statistics of Muslims having more kids and number one is Muslims. Guess what Christians you ain't having enough babies. That's your problem. Go compete. have more babies. These guys are doing 2.9 4.0 You're doing one point 2.1 This goes back to family and Islam being not allowing men to test drive women fooling
around. We have what's called the niqab. This is in the car very simple. Look it up to it. This is the woman's rap and you get married no excuses now. No excuses for Zina looked at up fornication. Adultery. No, no. And you get right with God is very straightforward, very simple. And then he talks about how Muslims are kicking gear and this is our logical conversations. What you can't be like, Well, I don't want to compete against Muslims, no kicking your *. Why are Muslims angry? I think there's a super simple reason why most Muslim countries have difficult or others are angry is because they don't embrace a simple market principle charging interest.
This is interesting what? Because they can't charge or take interest. That's why you got to have Muslims, you got to have some good Muslims on the program. Scholars in the dean, I'm not talking about myself, I can hook you up with people who are more knowledgeable in this area than myself. I'm not, I'm not a scholar. In Islam, I just want to point that out. But I can hook you up with some good people to get on the program. But you got to have a but I'm inviting you, Patrick to be on the deen show. So this is something and I don't have to get into the prohibition because they did discuss it. The prohibition of it even in the Bible itself. Usury is what you're in. This was used
to be outlawed in the Christian community. Yes to how Jews made all the money. Yes. And Jews find a workaround in the book of Exodus explicitly actually prohibits it. But the rabbi's found a workaround because they realized that flourishing and prosperity actually comes with the ability to charge interest, right. I'm very pro interest. Now the main differences here there are some fundamental differences between worldview of Muslims and Christians that I think need to be ironed out but we got so many things that come in, but if you want to discuss the differences, we get the elephant I like to do to get it out of the room that we can go ahead and focus on many of the
issues, issues, but the first and most important thing is we believe in the pure mono theism. Let's go ahead and let the Koran God Almighty as the verbatim Word of God Almighty Allah speak for itself long.
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under another one of the differences is that we believe in original goodness, not original sin, that every child is born in a fresh, clean slate. He's not a criminal.
Reppert, a rap sheet none of those things. Sin is not inherited. I'll give you example, Patrick. Imagine now Capone you're very familiar with him and other many of these gangsters that let's say you were related somehow to Al Capone, a distant family relative member and next to you know, they want to come lock you up, because some of the crimes that Al Capone did that wouldn't make any sense. So we don't believe now because what Adam did, disobeying God, he repented, he chant, he repented, if he was told how to seek repentance, there was a great lesson for that. But we don't believe because of that sin that he did. Now, we're we are inheriting that sin. So we don't believe
in that original. We don't believe in the original sin, we believe in original goodness. And the Original Sin is the way you guys look at we look at the original sin is the sin of 10 of arrogance is a sin of arrogance and a whole different discussion. But these are the differences. Hey, many people have many other differences. They live with their family members, and they can't get along with everything, but they still family. We are the greater family, the family of humanity with the same father, Adam. So I love the direction this is going. Let's go ahead and keep it going. We're living in a place where the God of America has replaced it with trans zealotry worship of the self
widespread narcissism and kind of a globalist ideal. Yeah. And so the question is, how do you then defeat that thing, and sometimes you have to make a prudent step that you might not be thrilled with, to partner with a group of people that you do not see eye to eye on theologically or otherwise to build a coalition to win. Here he talks about again, the importance of building coalition love direction, Patrick reasons they tend to be a violent people too, is because their prophet was a very violent person. Christ was not Oh, major mistake here, major, major major. Remember the Bible Koran experiment? Let's go ahead and take a look at that here. With all due respect, if two men are
fighting, and the wife of one of them comes to rescue her husband from his assailant, you shall cut off her hand. Look, here's my virgin daughter, I'll bring them out to you now and you can use them and do to them whatever you wish. But as for this man, do no such outrageous thing a woman should learn in quietness and full submission. I do not permit a woman to teach or to assume authority over a man she must be quiet. If someone has a stubborn and rebellious son who does not obey his father and mother than all the men have his town are to stone him to death, who have a little surprise for you. All these heartwarming passages that I read to you today.
Actually, in the Bible, are actually the Bible. So they say, Mama killed people. No, Moses also killed people. But that was the command of God, to fight against those who fight you. So let's get thief comes to your house and smash with your wife and your children. And you hit him back. They say, No, no, you're a criminal. You hit someone, I hit in a context in a reason. I'm not going out killing people or attacking someone's house, or someone attacked my house I have to defend. So if someone attacked Muhammad's house, if someone attacked his country and killing innocent people, as a leader, you got to defend you got to fight back. That's what he did. If Jesus was the king of his
time, I can assure you, he would have fought back and he would have killed a few who were killing innocents. Now, according to the Bible, the Christians believe Jesus is God. So Moses killed people under whose command and the Gods command who is God according to some Christians, Jesus, so who commanded Moses to kill Jesus? But then the young man comes back, and he has a very, pretty good question that he wants that he poses for Muslims to think about. It's impossible how you as a Muslim could then say you believe in what the Quran teaches and what Allah commands of you right? And also say it's okay to teach this grooming perversion.
Ilan Omar Rasheeda Talib are sitting on some love here how Patrick jumps in, he's done about this makes no sense. Ford's it makes no sense how we can't go ahead and unite we got bigger fish to fry, stop being such a * and start kind of like figuring out other people and how we can create areas that we can read. And this is exactly right, making the evil behavior seem normal. We're totally totally against that. We're talking about an area where the opposing party is doing evil things. And it's making evil behavior seem normal. And let's end with that. Let's just talk. Let's just frickin talk. Because we keep acting like everybody's perfect. We can unify the group. And that's why we've
invited you on the show. We extending our hand, we're extending an invitation. We've made the connection. We're waiting to hit the balls in your court. Patrick, we've heard from you. You've heard from us now we're waiting to hear back from you. So we can go ahead and look to make this a historic reality now making history this vision you have I like it. Many Muslims will also like it. And we can go ahead dispel many of these myths. We can talk about certain things and we can hopefully make this a reality because we there is a big agenda attack on the children attack on our families. And we want to go ahead
and protect our children protect our families, and we will make a more powerful impact working together you see that I see that most Muslims see that. So let's go ahead and put these differences that aside and we can discuss it we get the elephant out of the room like some of these points that I've touched upon, and we hope to hear from you. And inshallah God willing, we can go ahead and collaborate like a coalition of good of good. Thank you very much. We'll see you next time. Hope to hear from you soon, Patrick. Until then Peace be with you, a Salam on a completement all. They're out to kill us all. So I'll make my brothers and sisters we went to the streets to ask Americans
about Islam. Here's what they said. Do you know anything about Islam? No. Do you know anything about Islam? No. Sadly, do you know anything about Islam? Not really. Do you know anything about Islam?
No, sorry. You know what Islam means? Islam?
No, we've been told that they're out to kill us all. That's what you've been told that Muslims are out to kill you all.
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