The Deen Show – Muslims React to Gender Ideology

			See where the mom conference we came to Angela here to get you know some answers.
		

			This is a pourraient. This is appalling. And this bill was passed for five year old. It's some very
scary stuff share the LGBTQ concepts cross dressing * and oral if you've been feeling like no
one's addressing this for the last 10 years, and they're not addressing with confidence. What's
ironic is that the same people who are pushing for these things are also pushing for things to be
organic and natural. Well, I am I am with the with the opinion of 100% I think this was pretty
expected. Absolutely. We need to be the ones that establish the foundation for our children. And I
remember as a kid, we didn't even like think about something as Wi Fi access. The amount of pressure
		

			that's being put on the Muslim community and on the entire world is is disgusting. Do you feel like
exercising our free speech, exercising our freedom of religion, within the law of the land? This is
a great place for Christians and other God conscious people to work together.
		

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			So here's what I'm asking. You have a hard time hearing this from me. But this is for 10 years old
and up and this bill was passed for five year olds. So make them brothers and sisters, we're at the
MG convention we're going to be talking to different Imams to get their reaction to this latest news
that just came out where Chicago Public Schools will be teaching Governor Pritzker, his new
controversial * education Christian curriculum, which aims to provide more explicit instruction to
Illinois K 12. Students on the LGBTQ concepts cross dressing, * and oral * and abortion at
early ages. I'm gonna continue on because this is what they're going to be reading and then
		

			commenting on. The article continues and says * education will begin at kindergarten. According to
the new curriculum, with lessons on gender identity, third graders will learn about how they can
take hormone blockers to change to change from boy to girl or vice versa. In sixth grade students
will be instructed on Aino and oral *, condom wearing and pregnancy option abortion. So this is
what's going to be taught to children in the schools. And we want to get the Muslim Imams reaction
to this. Let's go meet them and get their reaction. I want che This is no stranger to the show
shake. Well, he was Sunni, how you doin? Shake pretty good. hamdulillah Thank you. You look great.
		

			You too Hamdulillah. So I want you to this is a news article. This just came out. So this is what's
going to be implemented in the Chicago schools. And we need to come to our scholars to learn how to
address these things. Please read this question and we'll get an answer from you. So you read the
news report. What do you have to say?
		

			Just feel Bismillah Alhamdulillah wa salatu wa salam ala Rasulillah that
		

			communities need to work harder. masajid need to work harder. Especially starting from the parents
we need to train the parents tell them the reality of what is actually going on. It all starts from
ima and it starts from Taqwa. It starts from teaching your kids, your family starting from yourself,
that these are realities that we are facing. And the least that we can do is you know, turn to Allah
subhanaw taala and really start on ourselves and really be aware of the realities like who knows
what the next decade holds a male last month to protect us keep us safe. And unfortunately, the
article about Pritzker is curriculum and the changes that they're talking about having that every
		

			level of the public educational system,
		

			sadly, is not surprising, but is no less shocking.
		

			Due to its inevitable inevitability, the teaching of these sorts of concepts of the gender choice
and other sorts of things from ages as young as five years old.
		

			We're talking about a block of individuals that represent maybe 5% of the entire population of the
United States, likely, far less even than that, and for them to have that much sway and that much
control over what is being taught, especially about something that is so life altering as this sort
of topic of gender identity, sexual behaviors, and even changing of sexual identities, * change
operations as options for choices as young as sixth grade.
		

			This is abhorrent. This is appalling. This is the state and vested interests, taking control of
children's lives. And actually, I heard a comment from somebody recently saying about a comedian
commenting about how these are individuals that have chosen a lifestyle whereby they are not going
to have children. And they have chosen to make themselves the arbiters of what parents who chose to
have children get to do with their children, or in this case, actually can't do with their children
as far as educating them according to their morals, their values, their beliefs and their
structures. They are overriding parents who had children by choice, even though they chose a
		

			lifestyle that prohibits and ProClick has a proclivity against having children.
		

			It's unimaginable life first and foremost, I say and Hamdulillah, that for Islamic schools, you
know, especially the importance of giving our children the ability to go to an environment in sha
Allah, where they can
		

			be safe from this type of knowledge and this type of information and being exposed to all of these
matters. Really, the community's needs to take it very seriously to establish the Islamic schools,
not only just to establish established schools, but to focus on building good curriculum so that
they're not worried and concerned about if not sending their kids to public school system or private
schools, that we have something great to offer for them instead in sha Allah because Subhanallah
these situations are only going to continue and get worse. So we need to be proactive to create that
environment in sha Allah for our children at the massage and the Islamic schools in some very scary
		

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			You know, so how should parents now who are, you know, in this situation of potentially having to
send their kids to public school being affected by this? What's your reaction when you hear
something?
		

			You know, there's a rule in general, which is NPR, they say, identify yourself before somebody else
identify you. And I will say that concept in Islam, it's so important to do an education and
creating a Muslim was resilient, creating a Muslim hole, understand the religion, occupy the world,
give them l knowledge.
		

			Things that make sense to them, and make sure that they understand that so when they go, they are
resilient. They have that defense mechanism. And they say, as much as we read today about these
issues, it became more important to me to talk about the importance of talking to our children about
these issues in an earlier age than what we used to do before. That's number one. Number two, I
think it's important for us to be involved, and to make sure that we protect our rights as a citizen
of this country, from allowing some people
		

			To enforce their agenda on us, public schools, so public square, it should not be a square, a place
where people will serve as an agenda to force the US into their agenda. So that will happen.
Unfortunately, by you know, being engaged, having that pushback being involved, is not going to
happen by going away, putting yourself in a shell, you know, and that's a battle that we have to
pick. And I think we can win it with common sense with science with faith communities coming
together and holding your ground, be very clear about this issues, no wishy washy about it. And
that's, that's, in my opinion, the way to go. So the first step, I would say, started at home, there
		

			is a great responsibility upon the parents right now, to take on that responsibility of teaching
their kids what's right, and what's wrong and implanting that in their hearts from an early age. So
school is the first place where they learn school is the first place that they practice, there was
actually a study done in back in the 80s, of people who are doing *, okay, as being, you
know, a problem in the community, and so on and so forth. And they, they found that the kids between
ages two and three years old, are exposed to some scene of sexual sin, here and there. And this is
where it builds up in their life. So imagine if they're being taught that in school in public
		

			school, openly, like religion is not allowed in schools, and they don't do it in public school, why
are they trying to force the * ed, why are not giving choice to people who wants to learn it to do
it, and people who don't want to learn it not to do it, like they isn't that the freedom that
they're calling to. So I think we should, we should fight it back, we should, you know, with, with
all due respect, to follow the law and follow the law of the land that we live in, but it doesn't
mean we could just surrender to the harm that is coming to our children, they go to public school,
they benefit from public school, and there is nothing that they could do. So I think the parents
		

			have a great responsibility to stand together, and Muslims and non Muslims and you'll find people
who even non Muslims who are against this in schools, so we should all stand together for this cause
to minimize that harm, and bring in benefit Inshallah, because you have, obviously within the laws
of the land, with within the parameters that you have free speech, so you shouldn't be you shouldn't
fear, I mean, speaking, you know, freedom of religion. Yeah. And that's something I should not be
		

			forced, you should not impose on my kids and my solve, or my family, whatever other people's believe
this, this is, should be kept, you know, free, public free square for people to practice the
religion freely. I mean, you send your kids to learn math, science, rice, and all the other
sciences, but then you come to to the school and they got, you know, they're teaching kids these,
you saw in the article, you know, about, it's kind of you feel embarrassed discussing it, you know,
oral *, you know, and the hormone blockers, you know, you can take your time. And, you know, until
you identify yourself, kids at such a young age, it's just, you know, it's mind blowing. It is, but
		

			again, like, unfortunately, we're living in a time where sexuality is exposed kids exposed to
Detroit in a very early age, way more than before. You know, I don't mind to talk to my kids about
sexuality. But I talked them in the frame that they can understand, you know, I don't want people to
see themselves through this sexuality identify themselves through sexuality. That's not how you
identify, that's if you're empty, you find I identify myself as a servant of Allah subhanaw taala.
You know, I don't even as a metal if he meant as Abdullah and what Allah subhanaw taala says, and
you're also using a common sense, you know?
		

			So that's what I would say, I think we need a lot of people and I will I call upon every Muslim,
every person of faith, every person of common sense and psychology and biology and sociology to
speak up. Speak up the truth. Don't be looking for the funds. Don't be worried about your, you know,
money who funded or speak the truth because we are at a curving point in our society today. And it
is our obligation as Muslim to contribute to protect morality in United States of America. So make
it brothers sisters, you know, where we're at with the emza another Imam getting his reaction. You
guys seen what we're talking about the article there? You just read it? What do you have to say? No,
		

			it's it's a boring and if if you as a Muslim or as a person of integrity as a person with any moral,
Christian Jew, God conscious, yeah, this isn't an issue of like, liberal versus conservative. This
is an issue of, you know, keeping things as you know, natural.
		

			What's ironic is that the same people who are pushing for these things are also pushing for things
to be our
		

			organic and natural, yet you're going against the very thing that nature supposedly pushed in
		

			and created, right? Obviously, we believe in a creator.
		

			But it's, it's something that
		

			it's it should be terrifying and it is meant to terrify. But we should be very wise in how we react
and this is why Muslim organizations are needed.
		

			We have to have a plan, we have to know how to actually, part of us living in the West.
		

			Living in United States is that we have to really
		

			fortify ourselves and our families and make sure that we're protecting them, and not only protecting
them, but actually making sure that we are a force of good out there. It's not enough that we just
put ourselves in a bubble or become insular, but that we actually go out there and be like, Hey,
guys, there's an alternative to all of this, what you guys are doing, there's something better? Can
I show it to you? It's Islam. Right. And this is something that's very good. And it has a solution
for a lot of the problems that you face. And it has answers for a lot of questions that you have,
and it has, instead of you questioning your identity and questioning, you know what I mean, the body
		

			that God gave you, maybe question the ideas that you've been sold your whole life and see that
there's something better out there, you know what I mean? Because if you know that it's in the mind,
then inshallah Tada, we can work on that if you know that it's in the heart, if you know that it's
in the Spirit, we have answers for all of that there's there's a better medication is very
interesting, because we know that the only one who doesn't have a gender is the Creator of the
heavens and earth. So it's a slippery slope. If Muslims, you know, fall into, like what you said,
you have to be firm on your identity, know who you are, you know, there's the male is the female.
		

			But now this whole gender fluidity where, you know, it's a very dangerous place for can you even,
you know, for someone to entertain this at all, as a Muslim, you know, where can they end up, you
know, because again, like I said, the only one who doesn't have a gender is the Creator of the
heavens of the earth. So I think there's two arms, the Muslim community have to use one from a
religious perspective, for us as a Muslims. And not only all people of faith, this issue is
something very grounded, very easy to be proven. The other arm of our community, it should be
science, people who are in psychology, people who are in biology, this is science, you know what,
		

			you will die, and you will be in your grave, and 100 years later, we dig your grave, we will know
you are a female, or male, you can change this fact. You know, I think there's a lot of confusion
caused by this kind of approach to archery, we need more studies, more numbers, we willing to
challenge this on a science base, that people who are pushing that agenda, you know what we never
felt in any time in our life, that our logic contradict science. So I'm 100% sure that what Islam
teaches, will never contradict what science say. So but what do I need any from our Muslim
psychologist, people wouldn't believe professional people in biology and other people of faith and
		

			common sense to come and to challenge these ideas. And to push back, you know, I think if we study
the impact, the negative impact of these areas in our children, we will find a lot of things that
support what we saying I'm promoting as people of faith, do you feel like exercising our free
speech, exercising our freedom of religion, within the law of the land, this is a great place for
Christians and other God conscious people to work together that we believe is right for our
children, is this something that we can work together on? Absolutely, I've actually recently been
		

			getting involved with a movement we have here in Dallas or not here in Dallas. But in Dallas, where
evangelical Christian congregations are partnering with especially Muslims, to Muslim leaders
actually was a meeting of Muslim Imams to start to form a bond and form a form a platform where they
can work together, get to know one another and stand side by side because evangelicals are some of
the most opposed to Muslims in general, but they're trying to break that cycle within their own
communities. And they recognize that although we seem to be at odds, we share so many things in
common, especially these sorts of
		

			conservative values, especially when it comes to family and society and things like that, etc. So we
share a lot in common and when we stand beside one another and speak out against these sorts of
things, it's going to be much more effective because they see this not just an isolated few and as
in a minority demographic, whatever, it'll show the greater and greater bonds of fraternity around
these issues, and that this is not what the majority wants. This is not what the people have values
and people of morality want and that we need to turn society back from the precipice that it's
racing towards. Thank you so much. So would you advise parents to keep their children out of public
		

			schools at all costs?
		

			100% There are
		

			pros and cons, to public school, private school, homeschooling, unschooling, whatever you want to
call it, there are pros and cons. But there, you just look at the realities today of public schools,
and what they are pushing the agenda. They're so open, they're so obvious about it. It's just a no
brainer for me personally, you could not pay me anything to put my kids in public school, and may
Allah protect their families. But I think it's a no brainer, every Muslim should any decent,
righteous, pious, upright person should really consider that if this is what is going on in the
public schools. 100% Try your best, you gotta, you know that money is not at the end of the day
		

			money and those A pluses and those report cards, that's not what we're here in this dunya for. It's
about protecting yourself and your families from a fire. Yeah, SubhanAllah.
		

			You know, I remember in the 90s, we had the challenges, and you know, in the communities that were
talking about building massages, and summer schools, and I remember, as a kid, we didn't even like
think about something as Wi Fi access. And then now with the internet we're exposed to, and our kids
are exposed to everything. And as, as a father, my kids being in sixth grade one of them in seventh
grade, one of the things is Subhanallah, that day will come well, there'll be tested with this. So
we want to be on the offensive. And we want to be proactive of teaching our kids about everything
about somewhere. Sometimes there's so much of rituals or Stories of the Prophets, or certain things
		

			we do on the 18th or certain days. But rather, it's a complete way of life, a system of life, that
just as every aspect of life, and that we want to give him the confidence and empowerment to feel
that Sam has answers to all that they go through in life. And especially this particular topic,
whether it's relationships guy and girls, the whole LGBT movement, where they're able to have wisdom
and how to deal with it, but also understand what their identity is what they stand for.
		

			It's like it reminds me the story of Vienna, Ahmed, when he went to the king of Reston, and he had
barely any clothes to remember him cover himself. And he could have said Allah sent Prophet Muhammad
SAW. So let me send in a love to Athena, Allah sent us right, they're not gonna deny that. I mean, I
read it in either the library library to take people from being slaves to others, to being slaves of
Allah subhanho wa taala. And one of the first things is freeing ourselves and our kids be feeling
that they don't have to follow the standards of society. So even if they learn or are taught certain
things in school, will give them the tools to be able to process and filter certain things out.
		

			Whether it's this philosophy, class of evolution, whatever it may be, we have to prepare them for
that. So then they realize that Assam is a way of life that addresses every aspect of life. So then
now they realize they're equipped now because of fear, and not because of culture. But rather than
understand that actually, this is who I am as an individual. So no matter what they're taught us,
don't ask them, Are they able to go back to the source? And that doesn't mean perfection. What it
means that they realize is some is the only thing that is perfect. Would you say that this is the
time, you know, many have maybe been a little bit reluctant to talk about this scared that, you
		

			know, maybe they can have a backlash, but you encourage more moms to talk about this, you know, to
talk about this important topic, where would you say, you know, in this area, should people come
out, you know, and start to address these things more because you can see the laws are being passed,
you know, this thing is spreading.
		

			I just say take your religion from the Quran and Sunnah. Take it over to Lhasa Muhammad wa sallam to
have taught us take it religion from the trust of the scholars and read about. And I want to say, I
personally don't like 99% of the demand of the scholars and the Imams and 100 are very clear about
this. I think we're some people get confused when they see some political statements or positions.
And I wanted you to understand that these political positions are a statement, it could be
calculated between advantages or disadvantages, not meant to teach you your religion or your moral
stance. But it doesn't mean that it is 100% wrong or 100%. Right. But again, when they want my
		

			religion, I don't take it from certain politician or a political statement that you make, or a
coalition that you make this. That's not how when I when I work, for example, with a Christian
group, or a Jewish group, or a Buddhist group doesn't mean I'm supporting these ideologies, or these
faith, I disagree with them, but for whatever political reason I'm doing that position. But this has
to be made clear by those people who are taking these positions and those of you who are watching,
and we should not mix the two together being so dangerous now to the young ones and trying to
protect our children. Do you think we've heard some scholars even say that they should keep their
		

			children away totally from the public institutions? You know, what would you say to that? Well, I am
I am with the with the opinion of keeping our children away from public school, or at least if they
can't, after a certain age like fifth grade sixth grade should be over middle school. They should I
went to high school here. I came from Egypt to high school. I know how high school is dangerous.
Yeah, very dangerous to to serve.
		

			vibe is very hard, you're surrounded by people who are doing things that you want to do. You're
surrounded by people who are encouraged you to do wrong, you're surrounded by a community. And it's
open. I went to public school, to, to say it very clearly surviving in public school is almost
impossible, except of Allah subhanaw taala help someone to do. So parents, they throw their children
to public school, they don't follow up with them. They don't know what they're learning. They don't
know what they've been taught. And I want to tell you a story on that I had a cousin, a six year old
cousin, he came once from school. And this was a problem in Texas. And he said that the teacher did
		

			a trick for them today. She said, close your eyes. And when you open it up, Jesus will give you some
candy. So he said, When we opened up our eyes, you know, we found the candy on the table. So we love
Jesus says that easy, this little thing is a problem with *, that they're implanting something
in their heart that grows with them. So imagine they already know things, they're exposed to the
internet, they're exposed to social media, and they have all these are opening to them. Now, they
are going to teach to them specifically in schools in an open manner. Manners are lacking in
schools. So I would say I am with the scholars who say at least withdraw them at an early age like
		

			fifth if they can be in public school, we have homeschooling we have k 12. We have other
alternatives that we do the best to minimize if Allah subhanaw taala, you know, with the Scudder and
his knowledge and his wisdom decide that there'll be guided they'll be guided if Allah decides
otherwise, yes, but we have to do our part, we have to take the means and rely upon Allah subhanaw
taala in it was beautiful came out of the public schools. I'll say two things. First, I lived in
Chicago for seven or eight years. So I think this was pretty expected. This is not actually a
surprise to me. Chicago is a big, big
		

			city. It's very liberal. There is there are lots and lots of work that has been going on for years
and years. And the Muslim community, by the way, in the state of Illinois, and Chicago is the
biggest in the United States. We have 800,000 Muslims.
		

			I felt the I used to think there three 400,004 Yeah, three 400,000 When I lived here, but actually
here the the mayor last Ramadan saying Muslims are 800,000. So if we are 800,000, in the Sudan, we
don't make the difference. And we do not make any impact. I think we need to
		

			really think about it seriously. Now. Now the the problem is actually knocking on your door, there
is no way out of it. You cannot say yes. Should we all homeschool our kids? Should we sponsor more
Islamic schools? What is our impact in this? And again, should we just stand and the defensive
position we should just defend our morals? When are we going to take the initiative take the
		

			next step further and start addressing these issues. I think this is a very alarming thing. And I
honestly feel
		

			it's a big challenge. And for families who have kids this age, and I honestly don't know how we're
going to be dealing with that. You feel that this is this is an area that Jews and Christians and
other God causes person can work together in this area to try to
		

			educate people and try to protect our children from this. Yes, actually, every Thursday, I meet with
a lot of pastors online, we first started meeting and mental health professionals. So the first
thing we used to talk about the opioid crisis, and then mental health and then suicide. And now also
these are some of the things that people go through * addiction and so forth. So the question is
also about the 12 step process. And the first thing I was talking about is acknowledging and wanting
to change. So I do think there is a lot we can learn, actually, from their experience because
they're more open, and don't have that stigma of perfection. Or like, you know, even their
		

			passwords, say I experienced 123. And this is my way of recovery. So give practical solutions. So I
think we can learn, you know, sometimes we have to move that stigma of perfection work together and
realize that we have some common goals. We're very clear about our beliefs. But there's a lot more
to work on, I think, what's your advice until this gets figured out? Hopefully, for the better, God
willing? Should I'm awesome.
		

			Parents keep their kids at all costs out of Publix institutions schools.
		

			I don't think that's even really a question about it. If you have any concerns around these issues,
and as Muslims, we should it shouldn't be a question of whether or not we do but if we're being
honest about our community and the thoughts and the ideas that are spreading around our communities,
we have to word it in that way. But if you have any concerns about these sorts of things being
taught to your children from the ages of five, and even younger, if you look at some of the books
that are available for kids even younger than that, then absolutely you need to keep them out of any
system, whether it's public or private. That is going to expose them to these sorts of things.
		

			Historically in the West, families and cult and
		

			communities had control over the education of their kids. These were the small school houses that
many of my ancestors actually went through, where it was a community and they taught their values to
their kids, they were in 100%, control of the values, the religion, the the etiquettes, the morals
that they were teaching to their children, we've lost that when we abdicated that right to the
state. And now the state is making decisions that very few of us would support. And so if you're
concerned about that in any way, shape or form, then you absolutely need to take back control of the
education of your children last than leastly, not to not to diminish this in any way. It's your
		

			responsibility in front of Allah to deal with these things. And if you don't, you will be
answerable.
		

			Subhanallah the, the amount of pressure that's being put on the Muslim community and on the entire
world is is disgusting. So this is going to basically this is trying to modify humanity. This is
trying to change the way in which people have naturally been programmed to understand what
relationships are, and they're not, it's not good enough that they're gonna put pressure on adults.
Now they're gonna go after children. They're talking about kindergarten in California, they're
talking about Transitional Kindergarten, they make LGBT like clubs and groups and virtual meetups.
This is a way that they're brainwashing children to basically indoctrinate them with an alien idea
		

			that's going to just destroy society. So Subhanallah, you know, may Allah protect us? May Allah stop
this
		

			horrific propaganda they're spreading. And I really think once we get to this level of extreme,
Americans are going to start waking up and realizing you know what, this is taking things too far.
You're claiming to be the victim, but now they've become the oppressor. And I think Muslims need to
wake up and the general American public, they need to wake up and realize what's really going on
with this sickness? Absolutely, we need to be the ones that establish the foundation for our
children, not the public school system. And there's definitely an agenda. In many different states,
we've read many numerous news reports about them, trying to infiltrate the system and an ad, an even
		

			you'll find this in the books that our children are being given by the public school system as early
as kindergarten as early as first grade, and Hamdulillah that we have, for the communities that do
have the opportunity that have the private schools and the Islamic schools. And if there isn't that
opportunity, we really need to focus on ways to
		

			assist the families that may not have private schools or Islamic schools close by, so that we can
train them and teach them to give them homeschooling opportunities to prevent these to being exposed
to such terrible things. Subhan Allah from such a young age, I mean, personally, I have two
daughters and have dinner right now. And Islamic school. And then Sunday school only goes up to
eighth grade and the area that we're in, and I know for sure I spoke to my wife, I said, if we can,
inshallah expand our school to high school, I'm gonna have to drive them to Chicago every morning,
even if it takes an hour, hour and a half to get there and come back. There's no way I can Jonnie
		

			put them in an environment that's like this upon Allah, for you to say that you're not a male or
female, because God Almighty is the only one who doesn't have a gender. He's not like anything that
you can make them a fad and imagine, and now you're trying to make yourself into a God, aren't you
by saying I'm not a male? Or I'm not a female? You know, you're taking this approach and as a
Muslim, you know, if you're not well grounded in your deen, you can go down this slippery slope and
fall into this. Yeah, 100% See, the issue is, if I follow whatever, I feel like, that's not a solid
ground to stand on, because your feelings change every day, and you can change and literally,
		

			there's, there's, there's people like that, of course, that we know, we have to ground ourselves and
something much more stable, we have to ground ourselves in something way more solid. And obviously,
that's, you know, our faith in God, God himself because there's no firmer ground than belief in God,
right? So if I'm just leaving it up to my whims and my desires, those could literally change and a
lot of times we think that it's actually coming from ourselves, but we're so influenced and
indentured in the culture and the media and the things that we consume. They we don't realize that
they're influencing us on a daily basis so you're getting influenced and instead what we're saying
		

			is maybe we should you should be doing the influencing maybe there's a better influence something
pure something pristine from God so go more questions. Do you feel more Imams now should take a more
proactive approach to educate their communities and to talk more about this? So yes, imams
definitely have to be proactive and many of them are
		

			Imams have a job, right that we things like this are going to keep on popping up. And today, it's
this tomorrow is gonna be something else. Just like if you told me this would happen five years ago,
I'd be like, That's nuts. That's crazy.
		

			And five years from now, may Allah protect us, it's going to be something even worse than this.
Right? So I think the jobs of the mountains is to really think long term. And to figure out how can
we really educate our communities to weather the storms. So instead of dealing with one fish at a
time, when I teach them how to fish, our community, really how to weather like I said, these storms
that are coming at us, instead of being like, one storm at a time, sorry, one storm at a time, but
how do we protect ourselves? How do we have that solid basis, that solid foundation that our faith
should give us right? And that's, I think, the bigger goal of a lot of the members because otherwise
		

			you're playing whack a mole, with a lot of these issues, it's just going to be one afternoon, you're
not going to know how to deal with it. If you're just dealing with the surface issue. What's what's
actually going on, right? There's something bigger going on. And when I say that there's a
conspiracy or anything, I'm just saying, this is the way that the dunya works. This is the way that
this life works. And we have to as Muslims have that solid grounding that foundation, our our feet,
our belief, our faith, and be able to do that inshallah. You're one of the few Imams that are out
there on the podium talking about this, do you feel a lot of Imams should come out of their shell
		

			and address this now? What are you seeing now? Is this the time because a lot hold back, maybe
feeling like they're gonna be canceled? They might suffer some legal repercussions within the law
within freedom of speech. What can Imams now, who were the mom conference, we came to Angela here to
get you know, some answers talk to us. Yeah, I mean, yeah, definitely Imams need to come out of the
shell, you know, some of them can speak more eloquently, they can speak with more wisdom, we need to
speak with wisdom, but we need to speak with conviction, we need to speak with confidence. I just
gave a football on this topic yesterday at one of the Islamic Center of Wheaton, one of the largest
		

			mosh pits here, and just a number of people that came up to me both both old and young. They said,
like we've been, we've been feeling like, no one's addressing this for the last 10 years. And
they're not addressing it with confidence. And what they really appreciate is that just we have to
speak with confidence. And I think it's building a level of frustration, especially when it comes to
Muslim children. Parents don't even know what to say. And if Muslim leaders are going to remain
quiet, and they're going to shy away from the issue, then you know, who's going to guide them who's
going to speak so I think they're afraid to alienate people. But you know, what, we have legal
		

			protections, it is a free country. And freedom goes both ways. Somebody wants to be free to practice
whatever, you know, immoral lifestyle that they want, that's fine, I should be free. And I am free
to be able to express my opinions and my detest, and my dislike, and my views of I think this is
absolutely immoral behavior. There's nothing wrong with that. And we actually protected by the First
Amendment. So we should not be scared, we should actually just speak up, speak the truth, speak it
in a wise way, speak it in a respectable way, but in a way that's actually going to guide our
community. So yeah, it is time for more people. I'm tired of being the only one who's really talking
		

			about this issue. And so I can help guide other people on how to convey that message. We got to do
it, man. Last question is should Muslim parents
		

			at all costs keep their kids out of public school? So I mean, you know, some can some can do it.
Some can't do it, you know, the ones who can afford it, and the ones who can do it? Yes, I mean,
homeschooling is an option in most states in this country, it's enough, it's a fantastic option.
Private schools are an option for people who can afford it. This is what Christians are doing this
with Orthodox Jews are doing this is what you know, so many other people who don't agree with this,
this this sexual gender ideology that's being shoved down our throats are doing so yeah, Muslims
need to realize that, if you protect yourself, it's not about living in a bubble. It's about
		

			protecting your children. You can educate them about what's going on in the world, but we should be
the ones to teach them these things. And we should teach them at a at a time and at an age when it's
appropriate for them to understand that. Yeah, one last thing here to remind Is this a good place
where Christians, Jews, or their other communities can work together with Muslims on this matter.
And this is exactly the place where we can't agree on everything else. There's some issues we're
gonna not agree on politically, but this is the opportunity where Orthodox, you know, conservative
Christians, conservative Jews, Orthodox Jews, sorry, conservative Jews are kind of on the liberal
		

			side, they're coming out and they're approaching you. They're like, hey, let's team up on this
issue, because we are.
		

			This is a minority that acts like a majority of LGBT lobby, we need to stand up together and face
them together because it's in all of our best interests. So yes, we absolutely need to team up
together. And I'm open to team up with anyone doesn't matter whether we agree on some other
political issue or not. We need to work together on something that at least we agree, you see eye to
eye on it, and it's gonna affect our society, it's gonna affect our kids gonna affect the fabric of
America. Keep your kids out of public school. I I tell everybody, I'm a teat. So, as an Imam, we're
already busy, but I make it a point to actually teach at our local assignment school. So I'm an
		

			assignment studies teacher as well for the high school students. And there's not a topic that's off
the table. We put it all there.
		

			I don't believe in
		

			keeping the kids in a bubble or blind. My students know everything. It's not that they're, and it's
not that we're exposing them too much, but we're trying to make it so that they are proactive. See,
I'm teaching my my students not defense, I'm teaching them offense. So we actually teach them how to
give Dawa. How to actually do good in the world, not just like, Oh, I'm gonna send my kid off to
college, and I'm gonna put a hopefully that bubble that I put them into when he was an Islamic
school, he's gonna stay in that bubble. No, I actually make sure that when they go out in the world,
they're talking to so many of my own students who have graduated been teaching for like, six, seven
		

			years now. Many of them are presidents of mshs are sitting up, Dawa tables are engaging, they're
talking, they're doing a lot of things. There have been very, I'm very proud of them. Some of them
have actually established prison dollar programs. My students, I'm like, Wow, you guys are. But the
point is, we need to put them on the offense, because the best defense is actually good offense. And
if we just say, No, I'll just teach you enough Quran so that you can be protected. Quran is great,
it'll protect you, yes. But the Quran was meant to be spread as a light to mankind. And if we just
keep that light to ourselves, we're doing ourselves on the Quran to discredit last question
		

			Christians and Jews and Muslims, this area we can work together in Oh, 100%. And we should.
		

			And not only this, but we can actually help the Christians and Jews, I think even more because it's
SNAM offers better answers. See, the reason why a lot of Christians and Jews might not be doing as
well on this front of they're trying to, and they don't have the tools. And I think Islam, actually
that gives us so many better tools, because it's on a more solid foundation. And this is why for
Muslims, for the most part, Alhamdulillah haven't been susceptible to this, for the most part,
because of that solid foundation that the Quran gives us. So yes, we can definitely have cooperation
we need to. But as Muslims, we have something very valuable, and we need to stick to it and help
		

			help spread that light in the world and shall not just is this something that Jews and Christians
and other God conscious people, people who claim to be God conscious that they can go ahead and work
together? And this protecting the children? I hope so. But, you know, let's be honest. And I think
Muslims are
		

			the
		

			I would say the biggest fifth group that is standing in front of these
		

			movements. Yes, you could find some Catholic churches somewhere, you could find some Jewish
community somewhere you could find. But that actually is not the official or let's say not the
mainstream stance of these faith groups, unfortunately, like, you know, when you work and
		

			with the with the faith leaders in a big city like Chicago, you could easily tell that everybody
now, right now is moving too fast towards supporting all the causes that the community is supporting
faith, you know, faith faith.
		

			Group leaders
		

			just don't want to be alienated. And unfortunately, it seemed that Muslims are going to go through
this alone. Thank you very much. salami.
		

			You were talking about, you know, this, when these thoughts come to the human being right to the
Muslim, it's, it's not that they should be left to simmer and grow, they can end up being haram,
where you need to get this out of your mind as quick as possible, you know, because people go off
saying that you're not going to be accountable for your thoughts. And then you actually address this
issue that this is something that you don't like, can you elaborate, you know, what I'm talking
about? Yeah.
		

			You know, sometimes I hear this statement, it's okay to have these desires, as long as they don't
act upon them. I think that actually opened the door to promote
		

			to make people more closer to God contract that action. I think that statement is not good. It's not
right. I think one of the things that Islam teaches us is the importance of the action of the
hearts, your hearts more the most important parts of your body. And you have to keep it pure for me
to tell me Oh, it's okay to have these desires to poison my heart. No, it's not. If you have these
desires, you should fight this is how long
		

			can you marry somebody, like have a desire to do something so evil? A lot of stuff? No, that's
wrong. You should say, oh, Lulu, stowford Allah, may Allah protect and I start working on purifying
my heart that's more important than the action. You know, an OBE is whatever the Lord said, heart is
the king of the body. If you corrupt the King, the whole kingdom will be corrupted. Same thing. So
what he said at whatever the alarm was correct, and that's why I do believe that these shower, these
desires are forbidden desires and you're not allowed to let it settle or sit or sink.
		

			You actually don't act upon it. It's haram then a you have to say you have to push on it. The
scholars talk about thoughts. Just keep an idea for a second when you're under LMS. Minister ha
		

			mobilehelp erotica twittle Monica, those who don't push back these thoughts, it will take them to
their distractions, even the thoughts but Allah will not make you sinful by thought. But a desire
No, this is a desire this has been something I it's like, as we say, the love of Allah subhanaw
taala is every word that you get. And the other beloved the love for haram and the dissolving of
Haram is a sin actually in the heart. Thank thank you for spend some time with us and answering
those questions because we've been told that they're out to kill us all. Salaam Alaikum. Brothers
and sisters, we went to the streets to ask Americans about Islam. Here's what they said. Do you know
		

			anything about Islam? No. Do you know anything about Islam? No. Sadly, do you know anything about
Islam? Not really. Do you know anything about Islam?
		

			No, sorry. You know what Islam means? Islam? No, we've been told that they're out to kill us all.
That's what you've been told that Muslims are out to kill you all.
		

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