Larry King and ISIS; WHAT! Muslim free zone in AMERICA

			He's been with you, welcome to the D Show. I'm your host. If you have not subscribed, subscribe
right now and get ready for another exciting show. We know that Islamophobia is rampant now why
we're gonna be discussing that and there's that all up in your face Islamophobia. Then there's that
subtle Islamophobia. So we're going to be talking about today, give me some examples here on The
Daily Show. And then after the rain comes the sunshine, we're going to give some good news. So
you're not all gloomy, because a lot of times you hear the sad news, like why are they talking bad
about us when we're just peace loving people trying to have a peaceful relationship with our
		

			neighbors. And we're so misunderstood. So if my next guest Secretary General is not here in the DC
show, be right back Don't go anywhere.
		

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			Peace be with you as salaam aleikum, WA Salaam Alaikum. Brother, how are you hasn't hasn't? Yes. How
are you? I'm good. Thank you for having me on. Thank you for being on today's show. It's my
pleasure. It is my pleasure, sir. Now I had opened up the show and I had talked about the
		

			you know, you're on the ground, you see like this growing Islamophobia is something that you're also
experiencing, you're being a part of Islam, and you guys are out there doing a lot of community work
and interfaith, you know, different dialogues with different people of other religions? How is it on
the ground? What you're seeing now? Absolutely, you know, it's done on the front lines of working
with the community working on interfaith and so on. And recent polls have shown, and our experience
has shown that
		

			public perception of Islam is at an all time low right now. Unfortunate effect. That's a fact.
Right?
		

			It was okay for a while, but now it's getting worse again. And we are up against such a machine that
is constantly vilifying Muslims and lying about Islam, and they have a vested interest in making us
out to be the bad guy. You know, we're doing what we can, we're doing what we can, but we need to
double our efforts, job law. Now, we talked about this all up in your face Islamophobia, Bill Maher
saying that, you know, the 1.6 billion Muslims are like the mafia, comparing Muslims to you know,
like, the Nazis, some crazy open your face stuff out? I mean, what what about this? Now, there's a
recent article with Larry King, yeah, talking about the more subtle approach. Sure. That's a very
		

			important distinction. So you've got the in your face Islamophobia, like you said, which is a
problem, obviously. But it's a less dangerous problem, because we all recognize it as Islamophobia.
We all recognize it as a form of racism, somebody obviously just doesn't like you. Somebody has
misconceptions about you, but we can recognize it for what it is. The more
		

			devious problem, in my opinion, is this more subtle form of Islamophobia, where there's a very
subtle form of racism, very subtle form of stereotype that isn't immediately apparent. The problem
is, the person doing it may not be even aware of what they're saying. So for example, there was a
recent incident with Larry King, where a gentleman wanted to take his picture with with Mr. King.
Turns out that this fellow was from Saudi Arabia, I wanted to take the picture. And so then King
said something along the lines of, Oh, I'm a Jew, is it okay for a Saudi to take a picture with with
a Jew? And he said, of course, yes. We have many followers in Saudi Arabia and so on. So he took the
		

			picture with with Mr. King and he smiled and so on that afterwards, Larry King says to this Muslim
from Saudi Arabia, he says, Now go fight ISIS.
		

			On the surface, it might seem okay, he was making a joke about Muslims and Jews and then fighting
ISIS and so on. But underneath it, right is this very subtle insinuation that Muslims don't like
Jews? Right, which is which is which is not true. We see them as educated people of the book, we
have some issues with, with Israeli policy towards Palestinians, but we have nothing against Jews as
as a religion, and then something along the lines of now go fight ISIS. Well, what do American
Muslims have to do with ISIS? What does that Arabia have to do with ISIS? Right? So that would, for
example, that would that would be like me, saying to an American Christian, go fight Andreas brevik.
		

			In Europe, you remember the
		

			the shooter in Europe? I believe it was. He killed some Norway, right. It was at a camp and he
killed about 70 Muslims. Many of them were children. This fellow was a devout Christian and oh,
		

			would be like me saying to a Christian here now go fight Andreas brevik or me telling a Christian
here now go fight the skinheads in Europe, right? What do they have to do with the radicals in
Europe? Why am I holding American Christians accountable for the radicals in Europe? Similarly, why
is Larry King holding a Saudi or an American liable for the crazies in the Middle East and
throughout the world? Right? So it's this, it's this double standard, but on the surface, that's not
how it may come off. Right? He's just concerned about what's going on in the Middle East and he's
telling us to go fight ISIS. I want to take you to this clip right now so you can see it, and then
		

			get your comments on it sure. Heard the Kokomo Islamic Center
		

			it's time that we put all of these pieces of crap on notice that we're not taking theirs. Yeah.
That's that's the first drawing on our little
		

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			Muslim Central, we're here.
		

			Okay, so you got to see this clip is very, very sad seeing this stuff. So we're gonna, we're gonna
go to break and then we're gonna get your comments on this is this, this one, which would this fit
in? This is the very obvious This is the very overt Islamophobia. Okay, so we right back more to
discuss this clip here in the deen show. Don't go anywhere.
		

			Bismillah people wonder, what is the status of Jesus peace be upon him in Islam? Do Muslims respect
him? Do they honor him? Is he a prophet? Or is he God, according to Islam? First, all Muslims
considered Jesus peace be upon him as a Muslim.
		

			Do you know that the word Muslim mean the one who submit to God's will?
		

			to Muslims? The word Muslim is an honorary title to those who completely surrender themselves to
Gods Well,
		

			for instance, in the Quran, Surah 37 103. Allah subhanaw taala says falam as Lama Tila, Hola,
jabeen? When are they no Abraham, in translation, when Abraham and Ishmael completely surrendered
themselves, and they became Muslim, and they followed the orders of God on the sacrifice.
		

			So therefore, it was an honorary title for Abraham to be called a Muslim, when he completely
surrendered himself to Gods Well,
		

			do you know that according to Muslims, all prophets of God, were Muslims, and all of them carried
the same message in which they were calling people to submit the gods? Well, according to Islam, God
has sent approximately about 124,000 prophets to this world, and the Quran, God have mentioned all
the 25 of all of these prophets. And out of those 25 prophets, God have chose five to be called hula
isn't the best profits. Only one profit of those five profits, God have called him the Messiah,
which was Jesus, peace be upon him?
		

			Do you know that a Muslim cannot say the word Jesus by itself? And he has to say peace be upon him
as a form of respect? Do you know that Muslims cannot and will not represent an image of Jesus peace
be upon him because no one can replace his image? Again, this is the way we honor Jesus, peace be
upon him. How many times have you seen uses based upon him being represented in a cartoon or an
image in any Muslim country? You will never. Why? Because this is considered to be a great
disrespect. And actually, it's a blasphemy according to Muslims, to represent Jesus based upon him
in a form of an image. In the contrary, you will see this being done so many times in the West. Did
		

			you know that part of being a Muslim, that we have to believe in Jesus peace be upon him and a
Muslim? Because not a Muslim? Who does not believe in Jesus? Do you know that God had mentioned
Jesus peace be upon him in the Quran? 25 times, versus he only mentioned Mohammed, we spent only
five times do you know that the most honorable woman in Islam was Mary, the mother of Jesus peace be
upon him? Do you know that Mary was mentioned in the bible only 18 times? And in the Quran, she was
mentioned 32 times almost 100% more.
		

			Do you know the Koran, God have dedicated a whole chapter for the mother of Jesus sudak Miriam, or
chapter of Mary? Also, do you know that God have that
		

			Get a whole chapter on the Koran to talk about the Last Supper circle.
		

			Do you know that the most number of people named Jesus worldwide or Muslims? This is Jesus peace be
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			Back here on the dean show, Secretary General from esna has him has Yes, thank you, sir. Thank you.
Okay, so we got to see this clip. And it's obviously very sad. You know, you go into your house of
worship, you want to worship the same God that Jesus worship the Creator of the heavens and earth,
you're going there minding your business. And then you see these people waving this confederate
flag, you know, with many of them armed now, and it's a scary feeling. What are your thoughts on
this? A few things. First, we have to remember to remain calm, right? No situation ever got better
because people lost their temper. So we always need to stay calm. Second, will sort of La Soto
		

			Salaam and the Sahaba. And every prophet went through the exact same thing. You had people that
oppose them people to give them a hard time. And they dealt with much worse than this.
		

			Third thing is this is a teaching opportunity, right? We have to view these protests and
islamophobes as people who are misguided, and do what we can to guide them, we have to remember the
story of Armada in the hot tub who became the second halifa of Islam. He was he was one of the most
		

			violent and one of the most rebellious people against Islam. But even he converted at some point, so
you never know who Allah chooses to guide. So people like this either. engage them politely, in a
nice way. teach them about our religion, invite them in, break some bread with them, try to explain
to them that we have nothing to do with what's going on overseas. In fact, many of us came here to
escape what was going on overseas. Our religion is a religion of peace. Our religion is one that
respects Christianity and Judaism and tried to open their hearts to Islam, not necessarily even to
convert them, but just to get them to stop hating us.
		

			And if they're receptive, Alhamdulillah If not, then we've done our part. We've done our part in
explaining our side and distancing ourselves from what's going on overseas. If he chooses to hold on
to his hatred and his prejudices. It's on him at that point. I like what you what you're saying. We
take something really gloomy and dark. Yeah. Which is obviously you know, what we're seeing here
people basically mocking, you know, someone who we love mocking the way of life that we practice
when in actuality now turning into something good. You said column in why you standing outside,
maybe in the cold? Yeah, absolutely. Come inside and break some bread. Do you remember in Arizona, a
		

			valley man who went to a rally outside of Phoenix mosque on Friday to protest Islam has a change of
heart. Someone went to the event where armed demonstrators spoke out against the Muslim faith. But
after being invited inside the mosque, he says the congregation made him feel welcome. Here's Jason
ledger and the organizer of Friday's rally wearing the profanity laced t shirts. Now, things have
changed out of respect for the Islamic people know what I know now, since I have talked to them and
spoke with them not No, I would not do that again. Just because I don't want to offend or hurt those
people where they had the bikers, hundreds of bikers, they were protesting at a measured I think it
		

			was in Phoenix, Phoenix, Arizona, Phoenix, Arizona. And then what what did they do? The people at
this Masjid were very wise, Mashallah. They invited the leaders of this org of, of the organizers,
right? They invited them into the masjid. And they explained to them that we have nothing to do with
what's going on overseas. They broke bread with them, they had a meal with them. And then by the end
of it all, you see them hugging, he had a change of heart. He had a complete change of heart. He had
a complete change of heart. Mashallah. So this was somebody who was very angry. He was he was armed.
He had hundreds of bikers with him. He he organized a protest against a Masjid and within just a few
		

			hours, right of this very calm, peaceful, accommodating response. You saw them shaking hands and
hugging, right. That is the example for us to follow. I heard a recently a beautiful quote by Nelson
Mandela, who talked about no one is born with this hate. They're taught to hate absolutely teach
them how to love now. Absolutely. We gotta read those. Let's go to we're gonna go back to another
gloomy situation. Okay, little scary. Absolutely. We want to bring some light on it after the rain
comes with sunshine, as we just did. Let's see. We're gonna go to this clip right now. sure how long
it is being sued over declaring his store a Muslim freezone which she made while standing in front
		

			of the Confederate battle in Bluffton. Okay, we got to just see this clip. Now. You know, at one
point African Americans in this country we're being told to get to the back
		

			A bus. Yeah, there was black Free Zones? Actually no, is this in America we're seeing now Muslim
Free Zones
		

			Subhan Allah, these are the times that we live in. And again, you were talking about taking a
negative and make it into a positive. And after the rain, there is the sunshine over here, this is
actually a good sign, right? Because whenever a minority receives a lot of pushback, means that
they're on the verge of becoming mainstream. Right? So if you look back in American history, Jews
went through the same thing, Catholics, German, Irish, Chinese, African Americans, obviously, you
name it, right? They all had to go through their phase of being discriminated against being hated.
But then eventually, that's a sign that you're becoming very close to reaching mainstream. So
		

			that's, that's the positive that we can we can take from this. And again, this, this gentleman who
is who is doing this, it's a teaching moment, we need to reach out to him, which I know has an
shibley, the director of care Florida did reach out to him and they were making some progress for a
time but then things fell apart, unfortunately, but that this is a sign that Muslims were becoming
mainstream. Now, if you put a Muslim free zone most people, once you open up the door communication,
you realize what a Muslim is, and you realize that, that Jesus peace be upon him, you know, he would
probably be more your complexion. Yeah. And he would look more like a Muslim looks like today. Now,
		

			some people are seeing some pictures that because you know, people have modified it. We don't
actually know exactly what it looks like. But people you know, they give some descriptions now. He
would actually probably not be admitted into the story there. Yeah, that's true. That's true. And
And the thing is, is he would deny Jesus, we have to sympathize somewhat with this store owner
because I I see him as a victim. Yes. of all of this propaganda that you have in the medium in the
media. You know, you mentioned earlier that
		

			hate is not natural, Hasan is taught, so is fear. I don't think fear is natural. I think fear is
taught. And this man has been taught to fear Muslims. He's been taught by the media. He's been
taught by islamophobes. He's been taught by a very well organized, well funded, Islamophobia
machine. So now it's the responsibility of the Eddie show. The Deen show is the responsibility of
ISNA and ekena and care and all the other Muslim organizations to counter that. And this is, you
know, this is why Allah sent us here. I love it. I love that's what our way of life is way of life
that causes to have peace with our greater peace with ourselves, peace with humanity, to be
		

			optimistic, to take these gloomy situations. So make the best little lows are very optimistic
grants. Oh, absolutely. Not to just look at ourselves like the victims, but to put this information
out there and to see how we can diagnosis because many Muslims will see this and they'll fall into
great despair. There'll be really sad. Yeah, you know, to think that, okay, this is what my neighbor
thinks, thinks of me, you know, and hopefully, they can go ahead and listen to this wonderful advice
that you're seeing in just a situation or no, but you're right, we cannot have a defeatist
mentality. Yeah, the early Muslims, they were always outnumbered. They were always outnumbered, but
		

			they were very positive and they were successful. So we need to get out of this mentality of we are
victims, we are oppressed. We have some issues that we're dealing with, and we're doing what we can
as a community, but we have to remain optimistic and situations like this. We to see them as
opportunities to represent ourselves, see them as opportunities to talk to people about Islam and
correct people's misconceptions, opportunities. That's what we have here. And we'll be right back
with more on the deen show. Don't go anywhere, being an African American, being a veteran of the
United States military. I feel as though these people who came out here arm outside of the mosque, a
		

			place of worship is completely disrespectful. This is on US soil. They're US citizens. We have the
right to freedom of speech, freedom of spirituality. And I think that is disgraceful. This is not
the American way. This is not the American dream.
		

			purpose to our lives.
		

			Do we simply exist to make a living
		

			for where we met for something greater?
		

			something more meaningful.
		

			I looked everywhere for answers
		

			and I found
		

			Islam
		

			I started my journey.
		

			Have you started yours?
		

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			Back here on the D show now, what would you How would you approach someone you're going to your
house of worship? And you see, or you're you're going to the store and you see a sign Muslim freeze?
Oh, how would you engage with someone like this on the other side? Yeah. First thing again, you have
to be very calm, very polite. And you have to know when to engage that person. You know, do you want
to engage them at the busiest time of the day when they have customers going in and out and so
forth? Probably not. Right? We have to be tactful. So maybe wait until the shop owners? He closes
shop, maybe call them after hours? Ask them to to come meet with them right at a convenient time for
		

			them. Then you engage them? Maybe you invite them over to the masjid. Maybe you invite them over to
your house, right? Because the measures might be intimidating for them. You invite them over to your
house, invite them over for dinner, who's gonna say no to a free dinner? Right? You invite them into
your home and you break bread together. It says something and that's that's what they're not
expecting. What they're expecting is a sort of violent or antagonistic response. Right? They're
trying to get a rise out of us. But let's be tactful, right? and respond with kindness and
generosity. I think inviting people over for dinner at your home is a great way to start. And this
		

			is what what Islam teaches us. Yes. So it's not something that we're doing covert. This is what our
religion teaches us the basics of Islam. But a lot of times, you know, Muslims, they might react,
and it's beautiful, you're given that advice, not to react on emotion, no, it just to stay calm. And
another thing is to really learn your religion. And you'll see how to communicate with people in a
positive light and be optimistic and take these situations, to hopefully do some good with it.
Absolutely. You You have to be armed with knowledge, knowledge, right? This is not an easy thing to
do, interacting with people that are afraid of Muslims are very antagonistic towards Muslims is not
		

			an easy thing to do. So you have to arm yourself with the right knowledge, not only about Islam, but
about modern issues, statistics on terrorism and things of that nature. And our Muslims are really
involved in these kinds of things. And right, you have to know what to say you have to anticipate
the questions that they're going to ask, you have to anticipate how they're going to respond, you
have to anticipate the biases that they might have in what they heard on a certain news channel or
from a certain islamophobe so that you know how to counter them because if you can't counter them
properly, you might just end up reinforcing the negative concepts that they had. And in the verbatim
		

			Word of God, the Quran, God Almighty is actually talking about this not to return harshness, with
harshness, but with good and then this person might end up being nicely. No situation ever got worse
because somebody was calm and polite and loving. Yeah, absolutely. Now tell us how do you how does
your organization that's you're the Secretary General of Do you invite people of other faiths,
Christians and other not yet Muslims who are out there to get to learn about the Muslims and Islam?
Absolutely. It's not we are engaged in interfaith work. 24 seven, right, we do this year round. And
interfaith work is one of those things that, unfortunately, is is undervalued by many people within
		

			our community. They just don't see the value in it. interfaith work is building relationships, it's
building friendships. It's building partnerships that result in collaboration. Some of our best
supporters, people who have defended Muslims have been people of other faiths, Christians and Jews
and otherwise, in churches, in synagogues and in the halls of Congress. Right. But those people
defended us one because out of out of their goodwill, but also because of the relationships that
they have with Muslims, right? Muslims are a minority. In America, we are about 1% that is a tiny,
tiny, tiny minority. It makes sense for us to partner with larger groups who share our values,
		

			right? Why? Why wouldn't we do it and this is, this is one of the best forms of Dawa. They, they
they see us they get to know us. They know that Islam is really just an extension of their own
religion. This is not a new religion. This is not this is not an other. We are not people to be
feared. We are your fellow Americans. We are your brothers and sisters in humanity. We are your
brothers and sisters in monotheism. And we have the same concerns and the same aspirations as you
do. I've got a mortgage to pay, I gotta get my kids through college, worried about losing my job, I
have a fight with my wife or whatever the situation may be right. I'm going through the exact same
		

			things that you are, there's no need for you to have
		

			Or to fear me. Now for the not yet Muslims are brothers in humanity who are out there and they're
watching. They got they don't have no plans. Next weekend. Yeah, you're actually hosting an event
coming up. I have a suggestion. It's now we have our annual convention every year. It is one of the
largest gatherings of Muslims in North America. 15 to 20,000 people come every year. It is Labor Day
weekend in Chicago at the Rosemont Convention Center, September 4 through September 7. Everyone is
invited. This is not just for Muslims. This is for people of any faith, or people of no faith. We
have scholars, we have activists, we have entertainment. We have events for the youth. We have
		

			events for college age people, we have
		

			roundtable workshops, we have a little bit of everything. We have something for everyone. Donald
Trump can come all the politicians, Donald Trump is welcome to come. Yes, yeah. If you want to
George Zimmerman, this guy from the Muslim free zone, they're all he should he should come and see
Muslim families with little kids while you know running around just coming to learn about their
religion. They should come in here how beautifully we speak about Christianity and Judaism about how
beautifully we speak about our country, America, about how beautifully we speak about educated
people of the book are Christian Jewish brothers and sisters and the guys in Indiana standing with
		

			these masks that we saw the video by themselves. They are welcome. everybody's welcome to come. And
this is not just isn't this convention, right? This is Chicago's convention, the Chicago Muslim
community, they are hosting us they are partners in this event, the Council of Islamic organizations
of Greater Chicago, they are our co hosts. So this is not just an Islam event. This is a Chicago
event. Thank you. We started with peace we and we piece a lot. Thank you so much. Thank you so much
for having me very much. And thank you for taking the time to tune in to the de show. Again, if you
haven't subscribed, subscribe, and we took the all up in your face, Islamophobia talked about a
		

			little bit and then the subtle Islamophobia and then took the gloomy, turned it into something
bright. We need to be optimistic we need to be educated. And if you care, you need to share with
your best example that Islam teaches us to be upon and go ahead and inviting those of your neighbors
to have good communication with yourself. So we can go ahead and try to clear up this misinformation
about Islam and Muslims. We hope that you got to benefit from this week's episode of the Dean's show
and we look forward to seeing you next time. And maybe we'll see you at the convention. Make sure
you there we'll see you Peace be with you. So I'm like, please subscribe to the show. Follow us on
		

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