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The speaker discusses their belief in love, success in finding people to study Islam, and the importance of acceptance and learning in Islam. They emphasize the need to prepare students to handle challenges and overcome obstacles in their faith. The importance of protecting one's faith and learning to change one's belief and apply it to everyday life is crucial for personal transformation and achieving success.

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			So I started off as a Christian going to church. I never believed that Jesus was like God, we never
I never believed in treating the Trinity. So you have to go to the tension.
		
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			Naturally on sound does it make make any sense? So we came from a Baptist family. It's a sort of
radical, radical way of turning off your brain categorical confirmation, meaning that you see the
heavens you see the Earth. You recognize that this has a creator, I'm going to confirm that La ilaha
illallah I'm going to confirm it. What's going on in the world today and Islam has the answers
Bismillah Alhamdulillah wa salam aleikum. We got a special special show for you live here in Pompano
Beach, Pompano Beach, Florida, Florida. At the Islamic Center of South Florida and my next guests.
Imam Sheikh Derrick P graduated from the world Islamic sciences Amman Jordan, he focuses on teaching
		
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			Islam as the religion which reinforces universally shared values such as respecting one's neighbor
spreading compassion, and desiring for others what we desire for ourselves. He is proud to be part
of the diverse religious landscape in the south Florida area. He enjoys spearheading Interfaith
Efforts serving the community and revolutionising the current discourse on faith in America. He has
a passion for erasing stereotypes, bigotry and false narratives. And he's my guest here on the DAR
Salaam Alaikum. Peace be with you.
		
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			How are you doing? Shake at humbly law? Are you the new Imam here? You've been here for some time?
Well, I'm from the community, but you just joined these. I just joined the center here about two
weeks ago. Now how does that that is unimaginable for some people. I mean, you accept Islam, and not
only do you accept Islam, but you start making a difference in humanity, because you're following
Islam, and then you end up going to study Islam and you become an imam. Let's start with those early
years. Yeah, so I guess it starts started when I was about 15 years old, and thinking about myself
and my guess, the world around me trying to understand myself, you know, my position in the world,
		
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			what's my purpose? What should I be doing? So I started off, you know, as a Christian going to
church,
		
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			you know, guess being attached to the Bible wanting to understand it wanted to understand when the
no God, but feeling that there was something missing, feeling like there was something else for me
to achieve, or something else that I needed inside. So then started the journey, read the
autobiography of Malcolm X. And, you know, was researching different religions as well.
		
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			I think, you know, I think in conversion, it's like a process. And then you have certain, like,
milestones or landmarks in your, in the conversion journey. One of the major landmarks, I guess, I
was sitting in my history class in 10th grade, and the teacher, she were going over the different
world religions, and we spoke about Hinduism, spoke about Buddhism, Judaism and Christianity. And
then we got to Islam, you know, so I was really, really interested at that time, really, to see like
an academic presentation of what the religion was. So I read ahead in the book while she was
talking, so I read ahead, you know, who was Allah? The five pillars, the pillars of Eman? What the
		
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			Muslims believe. So in reading this, you know, I was just, like, startled, taken aback, even. And,
you know, there's certain in the theology or in the the Arabic, the word for what I'm going to
describe, it's called in taco law, basically, where a lot inspires you to say something, but it's
besides yourself, but you may just have some words to say you don't know where that come from. So
I'm sitting there in class, raise my hand, teacher calls on me. And then I say, if this is what
Islam is, why isn't everybody Muslim?
		
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			This is really deep.
		
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			From Allah, because I'm full class. Yeah, this is what Islam teaches. Why isn't and you're not a
Muslim at the time.
		
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			So she, no, she explained that. Did you have to go to the tension?
		
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			No, she was nice. She was nice, really good teacher. So she said, Well, everybody has their own
culture, their own background religion,
		
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			gave that sort of explanation wasn't really satisfactory for me, because I kept on researching. I
guess the next big step was me visiting my family in New York. Some Muslim family there. That's how
I saw it. I guess Islam lived Islam, you know, really,
		
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			in a human way. I want to stress that you know that Islam is something that's human if the Dinos fit
through. It's the religion of primordial deity, that original humanity and it comes to reaffirm
humanity. And it's a really important lesson for us as Muslims.
		
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			Nowadays, that we cannot really be good Muslims without being good human beings, right?
		
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			So that's what I saw in New York is slammed is on the street Islam, people mixing it up a Salaam
Alaikum. If you know this really had a profound impact on me. So that was the next major step. I
wasn't Muslim yet at that time, but my family member gave me some books. And then I took the books
home, read them. And then hamdulillah decided that Islam was really the way forward for me. Yeah. So
		
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			you touched on something that really reminded me of a little bit about my journey when I started to
also hit the books and I started to study and see all these things in the Corolla and towhee, the
pure monotheism, you know, the things that the Quran mentioned Islam mentions, and the life of
Prophet Muhammad. And I was also like, if I just show this to people, they're gonna end up
accepting. I was thinking to say, you know, we're a little naive in the beginning, I think so, you
know, you expect because I think at that point, you don't recognize that Allah, He has a plan. And
Allah is really the guider and Allah, you know, basically, he knows where your heart is, and he also
		
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			knows where other people's hearts are. And yeah, and allow guide who he wills so that, you know, to
the extent that you know, it's really this.wa to accept Islam, you have Allah has to call you to the
religion first. It's an invitation from Allah really, sometimes we forget that that we are Muslim By
Allah's grace, we think it's something that we did, or this series of, hence, series of events cause
and effect. Now there's no cause and effect there. It's Allah's guidance. Right. So let's go from
the classroom. What happens give us some other highlights of some other parts of the story? This is
an amazing one. So now you're holed at that time? So 1515 Yeah, let's go on continue with the
		
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			journey. So
		
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			became Muslim, December 2003. My brother Mirsad looking on right now remember? Yeah, he was there at
my shed Alhamdulillah. So that was it was a center close to here about 20 minutes from here, a
center of Islamic Society of South Florida. I think that's an i FSF Islamic foundation in South
Florida. Took my Shahada there.
		
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			Yeah, you know, the story leading up to that shahada because I wanted to become Muslim at that time,
but I couldn't find any people didn't really know anyone. So I'm in class. One time. This was an
English class and the brother Musa some of his nephews are here right now actually, hope they're
listening and paying attention to this story.
		
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			So Musa, he's there in the class, and he is explaining what's the what the what the Bible is, and
the Muslim perspective on the Bible to a particular girl. And I heard what he was saying. So I now
took the opportunity side, but it and say, so you're, you're Muslim. He's like, I kind of had an
inkling I kind of knew was my time now to kind of, I guess, just I guess, to,
		
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			you know, just tell him that I'm interested in as well. Right in the religion. So I tell him, you
know, you know, so he's telling her about his, about Islam, about the perspective on the Bible. And
I said, you know, so I'm one of those two, what you're talking about, I'm one of these people,
right? So he says, Your, your kid, you're kidding me? And I'm like, No, I want to convert. So, you
know, he takes my number.
		
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			That's winter break, accept, accept, accept Islam Hamdulillah.
		
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			Then after that, you know how not finished up high school, you know, and then the in Piper High
School humbly, that then went on, went on to the University of Florida, got the opportunity to study
journalism, and also Arabic language and Hamdulillah.
		
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			Throughout that time, though, I always had my mind on his on Islam, wanting to study the religion
further, wanting to study, you know, further my skills in the Arabic language. In graduating, you
know, that was really like a turning point.
		
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			Because I never really saw, I guess, a way to go study Islam overseas, I thought maybe, okay, I'll
go for six months, in of six months, maybe in Egypt, or somewhere in Egypt or something like this.
Then out of nowhere, you know,
		
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			there's there was an imam that was at that message so that they'll feel he was there. And we mixed
it up a bit. We talked and he was like, you know, you know, what do you think about studying Islam
full time overseas? I'm like, how could I do that? He's like, Oh, what have you doing some hookless?
You know, we're gonna we're gonna hook you up. Right? So I'm like, Okay, we'll see what he what he
has in store. So he effectively connected me with Islamic unit. Samak American University, gave me a
scholarship to study Arabic initially in Egypt, then I transferred to Jordan. And, you know, it's
been a it's been a journey since then, life altering really Alhamdulillah then
		
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			came back to the United States. 2017 You know, transition to Phoenix, Arizona, worked on an Islamic
school project out there. You know, met really, really, you know, some leading movers and shakers.
		
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			In the United States, people from zaytuna, Rami unsual, Sheikh Rami and sore, got to spend some time
with him and you know, you know, be tutored under him Hamdulillah. And then came back to Florida
spent some time in Fort Pierce, Florida, kind of an underserved community there in Central Florida.
And now since 2021, being back in the back in, what was your belief about Jesus at that time? But we
weren't before with that statement that you said at the in the classroom, the classroom? What was
your belief about Jesus at that time? And then maybe, you know, 510 years before you accepted Islam?
So it's funny you asked that because I never believed that Jesus was like, God, we never I never
		
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			believed in treating the Trinity is something that you go to church I did. Was that taught in your
church? It was but it's not something I ever accepted. You didn't accept them even though the pastor
the preacher? Yeah, he was preaching John, what you know, for there are three that bear record in
heaven the father does not right. He's you heard these would hear that you'd hear the theology the
doctrine, but it's just to me, it never made sense to my my heart couldn't accept it. Right. So my
particular belief that Jesus was the, you know, the Son, but as far as him being God, no, that's
doesn't doesn't make any sense. What was your reasoning behind that? Or did your faith or your
		
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			innate nature?
		
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			get through it? But it just, it's
		
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			intellectually on sound? Does it make make any sense intellectually on sound? Yeah, and I think my
whole thing was that religion, God creates us, he's gonna give us a religion, that is in tune in a
incongruence. With our, with, with logic, it's gonna make sense, Allah created you, and he then
sends a religion, that's going to correlate or being in tune with what you feel inside and how you
see the world and with, you know, it's gonna, it's gonna make sense effective, it's gonna be one
plus one equals two, it's not gonna be, you know, one plus one plus one equals one. That doesn't
work in any mathematical. You know, how did you end up going back to have any discussions with any
		
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			of your
		
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			people of the community church to ask, you know, what's the purpose of life? Were you thinking about
the purpose of life? Or? Definitely, so I would United speak to, like, my mom, I would speak to
about, you know,
		
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			but the thing is, so we came from a Baptist family. And in our sort of their persuasion, they're all
my family, they're my family. Hamdulillah. But they were of a persuasion that you don't ask these
sorts of questions. You don't ask? No, you basically you accept, you know, it's, it's a sort of
radical, it's a radical way of turning off your brain. That's what I thought of it as. And it was
just, to me, I call it intellectual oppression. It's like, it's an intellectual, electrical
depression, like this, you shut your brain off. Right? And you don't ask any questions. They call
they have a term for it. Maybe some, if somebody were from the Caribbean, they know this term,
		
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			they'd say, it's flying in God's face when you when you have a question, you know, so basically, if,
if you want, if you have the sorts of question that means you you have a login, like a bad manners
with God, having questions about, you know, theology, but if you contrast that with Islam, it's kind
of the opposite now. Definitely. That basically in Islam, your belief is actually something that is
it needs to be in your SubhanAllah. Even the word Eman. It's a bad translation to translate as a
belief. Right Eman is really what Eman means how the scholars they define Amen. It's like basically,
it's categorical confirmation, categorical confirmation, meaning that you see the heavens you see
		
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			the Earth, you recognize that this has a creator, I'm going to confirm that. La ilaha illAllah. I'm
going to confirm it. It's not like okay, I'll make a leap of faith. That's not faith in Islam.
That's not Iman. It's something else. That's a Christian conception, satin see Islamic conception,
the Islamic conception is that you see the heavens, you see the Earth, you see the miracle inside
yourself. And you confirm that you know how in law, right, so definitely,
		
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			what do you tell some of the youth who come to you and they're saying they go to university? They're
good before they get to university? Yeah. And then they come back, I'm having a crisis of faith.
Have you heard this? Oh, absolutely. You know, this is one of the projects that we have is to really
prepare the youth to deal with some of those pressures of university, some of that, that adversity
that they're going to face whether in the philosophy, philosophy, philosophy, class, science class,
learning about evolution, learning about the different isms that are out there, and the sort of
competing ideas that compete with La ilaha illAllah. Because we don't recognize that La ilaha
		
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			illallah has posted something so entire worldview effectively for us to shape the way that you fit
you view the world what you believe and how you understand it, right? So you then have these
different ideologies and worldviews that compete in the university setting. So one of the things
that we plan to do here at the center, is prepare our youth to handle those child
		
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			teaches not only that, to handle them, but also to conquer those challenges. Right? So not only
equip them to defend themselves, but also to go. I mean, what to use the best words here, but go on
the offensive, right? Go on the offensive and call to this religion properly.
		
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			So when you had your first exposure to Islam now, what was it that separated Islam from the man made
religions that you confirm, like, hold on, you know, there's evidence behind this. It's just not
blind faith. I'm just not jumping into this blindly. Yeah, so one of the things that I'm one of the,
I guess,
		
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			things that I faced early on as a Muslim, it's that okay, Muhammad sallallahu alayhi wa sallam
claimed to be a prophet. And he claims that he is in a line of prophets coming from Moses, you know,
that will today man, the Jesus, that Jesus and that he is the final prophet. So he makes this claim,
I thought it's, you know, I need to confirm or either deny whether that claim is true or not. Right.
So effectively, I to figure out whether that was true or not, I had to do my research. And that the
fact that came back that Muhammad Sallallahu wasallam, is supported by too many different miracles,
whether that's the court and or his ability to transform the Arabian Peninsula, and that he calls
		
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			it, he calls to a religion that confirms everything that comes before it, Christianity, Judaism, and
so on and so forth. And so, yeah, so, for me, it just made it just what was rather clear, of course,
there was, I guess, another challenge that I had, it came as it concerns the Nation of Islam, and
their position, and then I had to sort of research that and say, okay, is that claim true? Is Elijah
Muhammad? Was he a prophet? And you know, that can I think anybody who does the research can see,
you know, the veracity of that claim or the lack thereof, right, humbly that so you know, with with
what I saw in the religion and what Muhammad sallallahu alayhi wa salam called to became very, very
		
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			clear, very clear how
		
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			lucid in you know, Allah says, if this court N for example was from other than a law, you would find
so much difference in it would find instability, but with this that we find in the Koran we find
it's clear message stability, Samaniego, like, sounds good. Okay. So you spoke about trying to
prepare the youth to overcome their adversities. What are some of the common barriers that you see
in trying to help that and how do you overcome that? Oh, Subhan, Allah will talk at another dose
about that one. Some of the common barriers and immediate barriers is we don't recognize the
grandeur of our faith. We don't recognize the ground your Prophet Muhammad sallallahu alayhi wa
		
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			sallam primary thing. So we see, you know, we see, like the West and the Western Academy, we see the
Western philosophy as something so great, big grand, and our religion is kind of small. Our Prophet
sallallahu already said it, maybe we see him as being his dot will be insufficient to handle the
challenges of the of the day. Right. So this is probably one of the primary barriers that we have.
We'd call an inferiority complex. We think our religion doesn't have what it takes. Right? Of
course, that's because we are divorced from our heritage as Muslims. We are divorced from our
history. We are divorced from our tour off, right are scholastic heritage, unfortunately, but this
		
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			is what colonialism did to us. So we can then you know, after talking about the inferiority complex,
I guess the next logical step is to talk about colonialism, and how that gave us an inferiority
complex. Right? So I'm studying history, we got to know our history, we got to know our heritage,
you know, gotta know where we're coming from.
		
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			So, you know, these a lot of there's so much to be said here, so much to be said, SubhanAllah. So
colonialism, that's a primary topic that I focus on.
		
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			Because we as Muslims, basically, we've pushed out the physical colonialist. But we haven't pushed
up the spiritual one. Meaning to say that we've been maybe we pushed back against physical
colonialism. But in terms of rectifying what the colonial is colonialists did to us internally, we
have it. We haven't dealt with that yet. haven't come to terms with that yet. We haven't taken stock
of that yet. We haven't healed from that yet.
		
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			So there's a lot and I probably would use that word more than any other word healing from these
things, because there's been trauma, spiritual trauma, you know, longer physical trauma, but, you
know, intellectual trauma, we have a term, sometimes I'll use these terms. So I try to define them,
but these are important terms that we should know. Like, for example, the colonialist the one of the
things that they would do, they would do something we can call epistemic aside, epistemic aside that
means basically, they take your history and they pretty much erase it. So the ways that used to
understand you used to know used to be balanced, they take it basically warp it, erase it, basically
		
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			they and they also want to tell you that your religion is no longer adequate. So don't believe
		
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			even starting to help you anymore. You can't reach the yoke okay? You may see the grand buildings in
the grand things of the past the edifice of the edifice of the past but that's old fashion. You
can't regain that heritage or that honor anymore. This ally right so it's we call it we can call it
a
		
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			sword. It's a spear spiritual warfare. That's, that's just to say it straight.
		
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			Go ahead. I'll get to you next.
		
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			Salaam auto compressor.
		
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			I'm not sure if you remember me. Of course I've ever been. I want to lose you back to the time when
I picked you up. Yes. To pray Aisha. Yeah, I was praying for you. And then today I look at you Masha
Allah has been over maybe 15 years or so. Subhanallah make me May Allah bless you. I'm very proud of
you.
		
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			Thank you very much.
		
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			Salam, aleikum.
		
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			desikachar here for everything you said this far. hamdulillah has been very enlightening.
		
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			I would like to get your take and some words from you and advice in sha Allah for do you see this do
you share with me and what I've been seeing is that there's like a shift. For example, those, you
know, born and raised with Islam among them. Our youth tend to be drifting far, far from Islam. And
yet Alhamdulillah people from you know, non Muslim backgrounds, whether it be atheism, Christianity,
even Judaism, Hinduism,
		
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			you know, staunch secularism, whatever it may be a humbler. It's like as if Allah subhanaw taala is
just picking people and granting them is it? What, what, what my fear is, is that if is it Allah
Spano? With Allah taking it away from people who don't appreciate it? You know, don't realize what
they have. And it's like a, almost like a limited seating type of thing. limited availability. If
you don't appreciate it, hand it off to somebody who will and carry it off. Is that what's
happening? Or, you know, this is something that my heart aches constantly because of this.
		
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			Hamdulillah you know, I love Islam, I'm the thing I'm most grateful for in my life. I'm not a Muslim
revert, but I feel like I have one foot in that in that sense.
		
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			But Subhanallah I mean, helped me remember that you have you know, humbly Allah great knowledge and
insight on this. So Allah answers that question in the Koran and also throughout Islamic history.
Okay, so that will this the Quranic answer is that, that if the people and I'm forgetting the Arabic
so forgive me, so I'll just paraphrase, but, you know, translate into the English, that if a people
turn away from the faith and Allah will bring up people, you know, and other people who Allah loves
and they love Allah, you know, so that's, that's a direct answer right there in the Koran, that if
our hearts aren't oriented towards our Creator, oriented towards the Rasul Allah, Allahu alayhi wa
		
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			sallam that Allah will replace us. You know, that's, that's the the fact of the matter. And that
goes for everyone, that we have to keep our hearts connected to the Creator, but to see through the
guys and the, the tricks of shaytaan have to see through that, right. And not fall for not get
caught up in the game. Right? And then, you know, that's the Quranic answer, then Islamic history,
we can see that, you know, some of the orientalist with the scholars that they study, Islam, they
talk about Islam on the edge, or Islam and how people will come from the edges, and then come into
this, come into the center and effectively revive the religion. This is what you have, for example,
		
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			with the Mongols who come and then the Turks who come in effectively revive the faith and bring
Islam to, you know, the really the heights civilizational heights. So you know, it's a it's a but
but the so that's, that's a reality of the affair that this that's a process that you mentioned, but
Islam, you know, it's nobody's property. It's not it's not a tribal affair. So no matter your color,
is that about your national origin? It's about where your heart is. And we can't probably can't
repeat that too much. It's about where your heart is your is your heart connected with a loss
partner to Allah or is it somewhere else, and of course, getting our hearts connected to Allah
		
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			subhanaw taala. It's a process. But we don't want to always do the Toba that we make mistakes, but
we want to always be the people, the Best of those who make mistakes, of course, the toe WebU and
the people who do the Toba do the SFR are in a constant state of struggle with themselves selves, or
what we call the jihad of Akbar. It's the grand struggle struggling against ourselves struggling to
see
		
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			past the, you know, the brother Abubaker. May Allah bless him talking about, you know, in his book
here, which I'm I'm really looking forward to reading, you know,
		
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			he talks about social engineering, and how we as a people we're being worked on, we're being the
word is called objectified, being taught to think you're being taught to return into animals,
basically, Bell whom kill, kill, and whom kill an alarm, Bell whom Ebola sebelah, that people are
being turned into animals, you just eat sleep, cell phone, and then go to sleep, wake up, do the
same thing, again, being turned into animals, just consumers. And we have to be keenly aware of
where we are. In this, our context is to be keenly aware of this, you know,
		
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			and that, you know, if we don't protect our faith, there are things to really block your faith out.
Because shaytaan and those who follow him want you to be an animal, they can manipulate you. Or you
can lead you straight off the cliff and take do what they want with you. And we have to be keenly
aware of that. You have to basically focus on this. We ask Allah for protection. We ask Allah for
TOEFL, we ask Allah for His mercy for our shortcomings in our sins. I mean, we got another question
right here. Go ahead, brother. So I go. So going in line with what you said with being objectified.
And in regards to engineering, you said that there's a good way to protect, we have to strengthen
		
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			our Eman and strengthen our community. But what would you say would be as somebody who's come into
the community at a very young age and establish yourself in Hamdulillah, very good position, what
would you say would be the best way for us to reach out to young kids just like you are people just
like you were looking for this sort of comfort? But you know, with times changing the landscape is a
little bit different for discovery and, and acceptance. So what would be your sort of methods to
anybody who is having? Looking for some answers that Yeah, to immediate things, we have to take
stock of where we are, not only physically but spiritually, like what's influencing us? What, what
		
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			have we learn since for example, grade school? Do we know that the schooling that we have gone
through, it has a particular pedagogy, it has a particular
		
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			philosophy that underpins it? And mind you that philosophy is not it's not a slam, it's something
else? What have we been? What do we have imbibed? Since the earliest ages? What are the toxins, the
poisons that we've taken in with it, take stock of that, this is one, take stock of it, understand
it, take stock of it, it's not too hard, right? If you Insha Allah, if you want to join some of the
programs that we're at, we're planning here you can we'll Inshallah, flesh it out, put it on
display, make diagrams, break it down. Right. So taking stock of that, of where we are, what has
influenced us, what has made us think a particular way, right. Because of you know, that the
		
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			educational system, which not have it's not all of its bad, but some of its definitely bad, the you
know, evolution idea that we come from apes or Big Bang, that things can come out of nothing, this
is really some dark stuff.
		
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			So taking stock of that and looking to counteract it, and then learning our faith properly, and
learning our faith in a manner that is at a similar level or a higher level than what we study at in
high school and university. Because right now what we're doing basically as Muslims is we, we
studied the highest sciences, philosophy, physics, engineering, etc, etc. Then we surprise ourselves
with the Sunday school level education of Islam doesn't make any sense doesn't make any sense. So
you're studying at the highest levels but then you see your religion as being something ah, you
know, Sunday school if Sunday School at all, or maybe I read a book every you know once a year
		
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			like lay and far that doesn't work like this it's not the religion is something that is engaging in
something that has the everything that we need to be successful and we also have to give some effort
in studying the faith to give some effort to studying and counteracting
		
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			the you know, what's going on in the world today and Islam has the answers our faith has the answer
is but it does require some effort and some dedication right so I'd say
		
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			without going into too many details one of the things that we have to do we have to study Islam
properly and you know and know the historical know
		
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			get back to functional Islam living religion right and yeah, there's only so much I can say right
now you know, oh, I thank you guys for coming out here. Thank you brother. So traveling the long
distance to be here with us.
		
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			You owe me I hope to see you back soon inshallah. Inshallah. Soon, very soon. Thank you. Thank you.
Okay, last question. Salam aleikum wa rahmatullah Microsoft. Okay. My brother if you could
		
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			tell us adults and and and
		
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			teenagers in this country? How do we stay focused on our path to Allah? subhanaw taala? With
everything that's, that's on the table in this country, every all these distractions, how do we stay
focused? Like like for, for both teenagers again and adults? Because I think everyone is facing this
problem. Oh, yeah. So we have to know that religion is a means of us becoming focused, that religion
is a means of what they call mindfulness, right? So it's a means for that. So what I'm saying is, we
have to recognize that the religion is a means of achieving, and that we have the ability to achieve
through religion is just a matter of unlocking it. Right? And of course, that requires study and
		
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			explanation. But to keep it brief, that Islam we have even like, for example, we have Hadith
Gibreel, in Hadith Gibreel. What you basically have in that hadith is the religion, Mala cos it's
basically summarized, right? So you have the Islam, which is basically and I'm making a logical jump
here because I don't have time. But Islam is your physical regulation, how you regulate yourself
physically, the five daily prayers is the brother of a worker talked about and how that plays a role
in just shaping the human beings life and keeping him on track keeping him focused regulating him.
Right, then you have the fasting and so on and so forth. Right. So it's your physical regulation,
		
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			then you have your and we're pretty good at that often. Right, the physical regulation the pillars
of Islam, or not so good with are the pillars of Eman, Iman and really understanding that a deeper
level. Right II man, what does that really mean? What is your worldview mean? And what should that?
What purpose does that give you? What meaning does that give you? What how does that service you?
How does that serve you help you assist you? Right? So that's your basically your intellectual
regulation, then you have ASN and of course we say would say that Islam and Eman lead to SN which is
basically so they are Musella they basically they allow you to achieve equilibrium or peace or to
		
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			worship Allah as you can see him through this sort of dynamic regulation, regulating the physical
and also the spiritual aspects of the human being, we can then gain stability and achieve even more
than that, right.
		
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			Now, so basically, I've been listening to everyone's answers here. And I'm going to try to put it
more in have a accurate description of what they're trying to save what um, you know, what he I'm
trying to piggyback on him and multiple individuals here. I feel like as a born Muslim, I was
actually having conversation with my friend the other day, or Yeah, yesterday actually, as a born
Muslim is that we
		
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			tend to believe on an autopilot mode, where compared to convert say, they went out did the research,
they came to a conclusion that this is the right religion based off all the knowledge base off all
base based off all the meditation and seclusion that they've done. So I feel like the problem with
the not not even just the youth but Muslims as a whole the Ummah is that we are just born or taught
to believe, but not taught exactly how to believe per se. Yes, there is knowledge and that is
definitely the best way to go about the Sunnah.
		
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			But I feel like we, as a whole
		
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			it's hard to practice that belief where the converts, it's, they're more firm in their belief. I
don't know if I'm making sense right now. But
		
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			so basically, my question is, what advice do you have for born Muslims to really strengthen their
work calendar and their belief in Allah subhanaw taala? Yeah, you know, every basically, at the, but
it's simply, you know, study the faith. Connect yourself to the messenger, you know, be a part of
the movement, right? study Islam properly, and then apply it properly. You know, that the there
three stages of Dawa just to keep it really, really simple and straightforward. First, you learn
from qualified scholarship, right? And really, it's just simple. It's very, very simple, right? You
learn from qualified scholarship, that we can have a discussion after you know, a lot you know what
		
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			that looks like qualified scholarship, though.
		
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			And then you apply that thing, you apply it, then you call to it, these three things. It's like It's
like 100% You can't miss you do that you're going to see the effects of the religion on your life
period. It's just just that simple. This Islam was designed to be functional. And if we approach it
the right way it will function it'll be it'll function for anybody. It's like the
		
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			it's the law says, when an educated woman or any mouthwash mouthwash, Rachmat to him when she felt
will lead me in
		
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			my hula rock. Basically, that Allah dissents in the Koran that which is a Shiva a cure for that
which is in the hearts and it's so
		
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			Rama, and it's a hidden guidance for the believers. So it's in the court and it's built into the
religion that you have this ability to, for the human being to transform himself. Right? So it's a,
it's these three steps, you know, learning from qualified scholarship, applying it. That's why, for
example, we teach on the Saturday school here. One of the things that we do every time we finish we
have all the kids recite, so Glosser, for example, apply what you learn, even if it's like what to
rakaat go pray, right if you study a Doris Okay, let me see how you can apply what I just learned
that you have a practice, practical application of what you've just studied. Then you go out to call
		
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			to it, maybe teaching at a Sunday school or you teaching, you know, talking to your friends about
it, even if it's one small thing, but a little money. Well, I deliver on my behalf, convey on my hat
my behalf. It's even if it's only one I have from the Koran who can't do that. Right. So but if you
do that, miracles start to happen. Miracles start to happen. Is that real? Right to transform the
Sahaba there was a man who his name was Ziad, even Abby, you basically as a long time ago, this was
a he was a governor who went to Iraq. The people of Iraq would give him trouble back then causing
mischief. He stood up he told them that you should know that there's nothing that's going to fix the
		
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			latter part of this Omar, Omar other than what fixed the first part of it is this prophetic
religion, this this dynamic mode of regulation? And then, you know,
		
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			you know, achievement, yes. And being excellent. Right, being beautiful. You know, another
		
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			narration
		
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			I'm trying to remember the Sahaba his name, Robbie, Robbie, I've been on there he goes to the the
cars, the cars rose. And because there was that the Persian king says, What do you want? Right?
Robbie, he says to him, we've come to take you from the leader of the dunya the constructiveness of
the dunya we've come to take you to the side to dunya wasa till akhira I'm gonna take you from the
constructiveness of this dunya false gods false perspectives all sorts of falsehood and darkness is
to the expanses expansiveness of this life and the expansiveness of the next this is religion,
functional religion. You know, we asked a lot allow us to get back to that. I mean, but these three
		
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			steps it's 100% hit like this is how the religion is done, designed to transform to regulate, bring
about the sort of transformation within the heart of the human being the mom there thank you so much
for being with us here on the D show.
		
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