Suhaib Webb – Maliki Fiqh Ishmawi’s Primer (Part Four) Things That Break Wudu

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The use of evidences in court cases is discussed, with the speakers emphasizing the importance of evidence from the Bible and the conservative meaning of the term " LemMS" in relation to actions such as praying or sexual activities. The use of " Lemme" in court cases is discussed, with the speakers highlighting the potential outcomes of these actions and the conservative nature of the Maliki method. The speakers also mention the importance of " LemMS" in building one's mind and the significance of evidence in court cases.

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			Welcome back to our explanation
		
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			of.
		
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			And we were talking about the
		
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			those things which,
		
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			necessitate what he calls
		
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			And as I said, now I'm reading for
		
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			you
		
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			this book that contains evidences. Some of the
		
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			evidences of the Med have this book is
		
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			relatively
		
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			good, although at times, as I discussed
		
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			years ago with Shah Hamel Taharian,
		
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			that sometimes the author uses evidences which aren't
		
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			used by the Malekis.
		
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			We'll talk about that in the future.
		
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			At the same time, I plan to read
		
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			this book with you,
		
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			Al Jawayr Azakiyah,
		
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			because this book is going to give you
		
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			a more like legalese reading of
		
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			it. Whereas what I'm teaching you now is
		
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			going to give you the basics of the
		
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			school,
		
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			The basic evidence is of the school, and
		
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			help you kinda begin to frame sort of
		
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			the practices that you engage in. The other
		
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			text is going to train you in a
		
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			very different way
		
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			that also is going to kinda complete the
		
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			process of building the mind of of someone
		
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			who's literate,
		
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			in in particular.
		
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			And last time, as I said, we're talking
		
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			about
		
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			and the sheikh, he says.
		
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			Now one of the things that violates wudu
		
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			necessitates
		
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			the obligatory
		
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			practice of wudu
		
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			is lemis. Lemmis means to rub like this.
		
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			So he says, well, be lemis. And what
		
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			he means here is to touch the opposite
		
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			*.
		
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			And the strong opinion,
		
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			amongst the Madoches is that this this includes,
		
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			like, all adult
		
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			males or females.
		
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			Alright?
		
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			What is the evidence before we we talk
		
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			about these 4 different kind
		
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			of iterations of touching the opposite gender, whether
		
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			you're male or female?
		
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			It's the 43rd chapter of the 4th chapter
		
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			of
		
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			the
		
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			Quran.
		
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			The verse is mentioning those things which necessitate,
		
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			and it mentions sexual befallment. And then later
		
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			on, it mentions
		
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			talking here about, of course,
		
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			if you were to touch the opposite gender.
		
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			There is a difference of opinion amongst the
		
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			earliest
		
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			scholars on this verse.
		
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			Starts with the sahaba, Sayyidina ibn Abbas radiAllahu
		
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			anhu and others, and then this difference
		
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			continues to spread out, and you find that
		
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			one opinion is kind of adopted and defended
		
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			by Sadat al Hanafiya, and then the other
		
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			is adopted in opinion
		
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			and defended, and then even nuanced by the
		
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			other Methaheb.
		
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			So, Saydna,
		
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			Imam Abu Hanifa says that
		
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			and there's
		
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			which
		
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			is
		
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			which
		
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			is
		
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			which means, you know, you touched
		
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			the opposite gender. Here it says you touched
		
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			a woman, but it's understood to be a
		
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			woman or a man. Like, so for a
		
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			woman touches a man, the same applies to
		
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			her.
		
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			Talk about that in the future as Ibn
		
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			al Rosh said. These kind of things are
		
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			generally applied to everybody.
		
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			Sayna Imam Abu Hanifa said that here, lamas
		
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			doesn't mean to touch. Lamas means *
		
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			because Sayna Maryam alayhi sallam says,
		
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			No man touched
		
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			me. He said she didn't mean, like, physical
		
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			touch.
		
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			Right? What she meant was
		
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			*. It's a very strong argument. So Imam
		
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			Abu Hanifa is going with the secondary meaning
		
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			of this word. He's going with the figurative
		
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			meaning instead of the literal meaning, and here
		
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			you start to see something that sometimes scholars
		
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			are going to to argue over is something
		
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			haqqiqa or majaz.
		
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			Haqqiqa means a literal meaning, which means that
		
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			a
		
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			word is understood
		
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			according
		
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			to
		
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			its known meaning. Right?
		
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			Majaz means
		
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			that the meaning of the word
		
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			is now taken to something else. Right? A
		
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			figurative meaning that has what's called karina, has
		
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			some supporting evidence for it. We'll talk about
		
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			this in the future, but what you wanna
		
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			think about now is
		
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			that the fuqaha at times, especially when it
		
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			comes to the Quran and Hadith,
		
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			one of the things that they're going to
		
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			argue about, and this goes back to the
		
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			time of the Sahaba,
		
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			right, is is it the literal meaning or
		
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			the figurative meaning? Sayedna Imam Zamasheri,
		
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			alayir Hamel, he wrote an entire dictionary on
		
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			the literal and the figurative called.
		
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			So Sayidna imam Abu Hanifa,
		
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			he's going to say that the of
		
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			this word,
		
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			the meaning of this word is *.
		
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			The response from the majority of the ulema
		
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			is very strong
		
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			and as they say, listen, Allah already mentioned
		
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			* in the verse.
		
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			Why would he mention it again?
		
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			So in the beginning of the verse,
		
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			Don't come to prayer
		
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			if you're in a state of intoxication until
		
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			your mind is is
		
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			right, and
		
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			if you are in a state of sexual
		
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			defilement, this is redundant, and there's no redundancy
		
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			in the Quran.
		
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			So their argument is no, lemmas here means
		
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			lemmas,
		
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			to touch.
		
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			But then
		
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			these fuqaha,
		
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			the Madakhi and the Shefiya and some of
		
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			the others,
		
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			had to contend with other evidences that the
		
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			Hanafis responded with. Said, well,
		
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			the hadith of Sayda Aisha Fakat to
		
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			She says, one time,
		
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			you know, I lost, you know, I woke
		
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			up and I couldn't find the messenger of
		
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			Allah.
		
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			Then I searched for him with my hand
		
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			until I found the bottom of his feet
		
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			and I touched him and he was in
		
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			prayer. He was making dua
		
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			Allah, I seek refuge in your pleasure from
		
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			your anger.
		
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			Another narration says
		
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			he was praying and he didn't stop and
		
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			go make so
		
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			that's the response.
		
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			Also the narration, which is a good narration,
		
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			the
		
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			prophet
		
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			used to kiss
		
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			and he would pray and he didn't make
		
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			udul. So now the Hanafis are boxing.
		
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			You see this going back and forth with
		
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			etiquette,
		
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			with with ihtiram,
		
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			with respect.
		
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			So we find that the other these
		
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			are and these
		
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			are authentic,
		
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			there's no difference on this issue. However,
		
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			you fail to note something, and that is
		
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			the argument
		
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			from the majority is that
		
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			if
		
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			the touch, and this is from the Malekis,
		
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			the Shafi'is have their own thing, but the
		
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			Malekis in particular say if this touch
		
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			is coupled
		
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			with
		
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			sexual excitement,
		
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			pleasure.
		
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			So that's why the sheikh, he says
		
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			It says that,
		
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			you know,
		
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			touching
		
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			an or even
		
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			your maharam
		
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			falls into 4 types.
		
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			And the entire,
		
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			what we talked about before, the of the
		
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			here
		
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			is the cause of what's going to obligate
		
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			wudu is
		
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			The intention
		
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			or the presence of it.
		
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			And this is a very fascinating
		
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			chapter, although it seems very easy, and when
		
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			we read
		
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			Al Jawahir, Azakiyah,
		
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			and the explanation of Imam al Sufti Bissin,
		
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			not
		
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			lie, man,
		
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			you're gonna be, like, wow, man. This is
		
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			deep.
		
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			Like, it's interesting. Not necessarily because of the
		
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			act, right, of touching, not touching, but how
		
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			it begins to be expanded to other things
		
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			and other discussions.
		
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			So the sheikh, he says,
		
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			before I continue again, 43rd chapter of the
		
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			43rd verse of the 4th chapter of the
		
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			Quran, extremely important here.
		
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			And then those narrations, the narration of Sayida
		
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			Aisha, another one of
		
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			Sayda are now shading it, and the argument
		
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			here is that
		
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			touching without any type of desire in the
		
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			Maliki Medheb
		
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			doesn't violate wudu, but when the touch is
		
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			accompanied with passion,
		
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			then it violates wudu. Why? We talked about
		
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			this axiom before.
		
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			Now you see how things come together, that
		
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			one. Something draws near to something else, it
		
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			takes on its ruling. And you can see
		
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			this is debatable.
		
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			And
		
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			and you're kissing
		
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			your spouse, right,
		
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			you may experience
		
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			pre seminal emission,
		
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			And the strong opinion in the Med Heb,
		
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			the later, later, later scholars is if a
		
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			woman also experiences,
		
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			sexual excitement
		
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			in our private
		
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			areas. These things necessitate.
		
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			Amongst men,
		
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			So we find something interesting in the Maliki
		
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			method that that when it comes to purity,
		
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			they're when it comes to the the things
		
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			which are conditions of worship,
		
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			they're very, very conservative at times.
		
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			It's called
		
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			cautious, so they say, you know, you may
		
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			have inadvertently
		
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			had some kind of
		
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			leak, right, related to this passion,
		
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			and therefore
		
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			therefore, you are obligated
		
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			to make.
		
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			So they say,
		
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			and this is the med have in general,
		
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			touching the opposite gender
		
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			falls under 4 types. Number 1,
		
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			So now the nia,
		
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			the internal,
		
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			has met the external.
		
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			The heart
		
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			is aligned with the actions. So the person
		
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			intends,
		
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			you know, to feel a sense of passion
		
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			and then physically experience
		
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			that passion.
		
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			Then in that situation, because the and action
		
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			have aligned, and here the illah
		
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			is sense of passion and pleasure, and sexual
		
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			excitement,
		
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			that person has to make.
		
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			The second,
		
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			Now we see something else. The second one
		
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			is that I didn't have the intention,
		
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			but I experienced it. I also have to
		
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			make wudu. So the first one,
		
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			the first example, the first scenario, and there's
		
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			about 16 of them, I'm only gonna give
		
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			you 4,
		
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			is that
		
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			The concern is for the intention and the
		
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			action. But now there's no niyyah, but there's
		
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			still the action. The
		
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			action
		
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			is given
		
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			consideration.
		
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			That's why I say
		
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			when our people who who go by what
		
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			we see.
		
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			Right? So what's happened has happened, and there's
		
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			a ruling for that. Oh, but I didn't
		
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			there's a ruling for that.
		
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			I have to stick to the rule.
		
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			The third,
		
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			If that person
		
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			That person
		
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			had the intention but didn't experience
		
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			it in the school, say,
		
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			Why you see something powerful, the power of
		
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			the intention, the power of the niya. So
		
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			the intention was there,
		
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			but the outcome wasn't there. So the
		
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			So the first one, niya, action. The second
		
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			one, action without niya. The third, niya, without
		
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			the action. In all of those,
		
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			and
		
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			finally
		
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			and here the person has no intention and
		
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			there is no experience of that kind of
		
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			passion, then there is no wudu obligated upon
		
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			that person.