Suhaib Webb – Justice, Dictators, Violent Rebellion and Scholar Sanctioned Quietism

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The speakers discuss the importance of justice as a foundational principle in Islam, with Sunni quietism as a means to weaken and destroy the community. They stress the need for people to commit to justice and not obey leaders, emphasizing the need for individuals to commit to sustainability and education to address the threat of malfeasance and irrational liberalism. They also discuss the history of the community, including the formation of a day for justice and the appointment of employees to listen to the oppressed. The speakers stress the importance of commitment to black lives matter and the need for individuals to commit to it.

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			We praise Allah Subhanahu Wa Ta'ala. We send,
		
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			peace and blessings upon,
		
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			our beloved messenger, Muhammad sallallahu alaihi wa sallam,
		
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			upon his family and his companions and those
		
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			who followed him until the end of time.
		
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			Brothers and sisters, Assalamu Alaikum Rahmatullah.
		
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			Masha'Allah. It's great to be in the ATL
		
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			especially this weekend. A lot going on.
		
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			And
		
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			it's great to see
		
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			a number of old friends and faces
		
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			that I've known throughout the years. And of
		
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			course it's great to be working, Alhamdulillah,
		
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			in hand with helping hand,
		
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			to
		
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			address
		
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			the tremendous
		
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			suffering and challenges that face,
		
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			our Syrian,
		
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			brothers and sisters.
		
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			What I would like to talk about briefly,
		
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			just for a few minutes is the idea
		
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			of justice and how Islam
		
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			views justice as one of the most important
		
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			means. In fact we say, alaadalin
		
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			mushtama
		
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			kawudu ilis salah.
		
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			We actually say that, you know, justice is
		
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			to a community what wudu is to salah.
		
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			If we don't have wudu, we can't what?
		
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			We can't function. We can't pray. So if
		
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			we don't have justice,
		
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			then we can't function as a society and
		
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			as a community. That's why Allah subhanahu wa
		
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			ta'ala says, Inna Allah
		
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			subhanahu wa ta'ala says in the Quran that
		
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			you've been commanded to be just
		
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			and to establish excellence.
		
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			And unfortunately,
		
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			we see,
		
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			in the contemporary Muslim community
		
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			people who for some reason or another
		
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			are discouraging
		
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			us working to establish justice in our personal
		
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			lives,
		
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			in our communities. And then of course, the
		
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			tremendous challenges that we're facing in America
		
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			as well as beyond. And at times, actually
		
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			using the religion
		
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			to placate us and create what one scholar
		
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			calls Sunni Quietism.
		
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			The idea of Sunnis
		
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			seeing it as a religious obligation
		
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			to be silent
		
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			in the face
		
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			of oppression and injustice.
		
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			And in fact, using the idea, you
		
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			know,
		
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			to rebel against the ruler,
		
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			is a major sin. So confusing
		
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			legitimate efforts to work for justice
		
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			and work for the rights of others and
		
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			protect the vulnerable,
		
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			conflating that with actual sedition.
		
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			So I would like just to spend a
		
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			few moments on that and perhaps leave you
		
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			with some gulab jamun for your brain,
		
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			that you can go home and perhaps research
		
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			for yourself
		
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			and continue this discussion.
		
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			So the first is the idea, of course,
		
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			of justice is one of the foundational principles
		
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			of Quran.
		
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			Allah
		
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			says
		
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			Allah
		
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			Allah Subhanahu
		
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			Wa Ta'ala says very beautifully in Surat Anisa
		
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			that you have been commanded by God
		
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			to establish the trust amongst people and that
		
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			you have been commanded. And here, he's talking
		
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			to the rulers actually,
		
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			that you have been commanded to establish justice
		
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			when you rule amongst people.
		
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			Also, we know that the prophet
		
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			in a hadith from Imam Abu Dawood
		
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			reminded us and warned us of Sunni
		
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			quietism.
		
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			When he mentioned in a great hadith that
		
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			there will be a person who's punished in
		
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			the grave.
		
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			And that person will ask, why are you
		
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			punishing me? And the angels will say,
		
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			The angels will say to that person that
		
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			you witnessed
		
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			oppression
		
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			and you did not help people.
		
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			So we understand that being punished in the
		
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			grave
		
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			is a sign of something being forbidden.
		
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			So that means not engaging in justice and
		
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			establishing justice
		
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			and looking out for those most vulnerable
		
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			is haram.
		
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			The second is our history as a community.
		
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			We perhaps maybe have forgotten
		
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			the early days of our community
		
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			as our beloved messenger, Muhammad sallallahu alaihi wa
		
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			sallam said,
		
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			You know, the best generation is my generation
		
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			and those who follow them and those who
		
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			follow them. And in the name of Sunni
		
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			quietism,
		
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			we tend to restrict
		
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			restrict
		
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			following the salaf to simple acts of worship
		
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			like salah or zakah or issues of aqeedah.
		
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			But very rarely we do do we turn,
		
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			for example, to Imam Al Hussein,
		
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			for example, for political inspiration.
		
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			So we only use the salaf
		
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			for
		
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			acts of worship,
		
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			but we don't take for example their social
		
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			programs. So like Imam Zain ul Abideen
		
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			alaihis salam. You know, when he died, the
		
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			great great grandson of Saidna Ali, when he
		
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			died,
		
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			the request for zakat in his community in
		
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			1 year rose by 12%.
		
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			And they asked him why suddenly is there
		
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			this kind of massive change in the numbers
		
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			of people asking for zakat. And they said
		
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			because Al Imam, the sheikh, he used to
		
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			provide us with employment.
		
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			So here we see one of the salaf
		
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			who's not only worried about the theological needs
		
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			of the people and the liturgy
		
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			of the people, but he's also invested in
		
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			social agency.
		
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			Why don't we also take that as an
		
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			example to be social entrepreneurs, for example?
		
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			To be people who see that being a
		
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			social entrepreneur
		
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			is to be on the way of the
		
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			salaf. Instead,
		
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			we framed the salaf as a means to
		
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			divide and weaken and destroy the Sunni Muslim
		
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			community in the name of Sunni quietism.
		
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			But if I'm gonna follow the salaf in
		
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			salah,
		
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			I should follow the salaf in justice.
		
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			If I should be concerned, the salaf, what
		
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			their belief was on the attributes of God,
		
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			then I should also be concerned with their
		
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			concern for the attributes of people in society.
		
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			Do we believe in some of what they
		
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			left us and we neglect the other part
		
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			of it?
		
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			So if we look at our history, our
		
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			spiritual ancestors,
		
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			we see people from the time of Sayna
		
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			Abu Bakr Radiallahu Anhu
		
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			who purchased
		
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			people's freedom.
		
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			We see from the statement of Sayna Amrul
		
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			Khattab
		
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			to Sayyidina Umar ibn Asaradhiallahu
		
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			anhuama,
		
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			are you to stab Birunas? Like, are you
		
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			enslaving people
		
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			after Allah allowed them to be born free?
		
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			And then we go to the time of
		
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			Sayyidina Umar ibn Abdul Aziz. And this is
		
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			very remarkable, subhanallah. This is our history
		
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			as mentioned
		
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			in a number of important texts.
		
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			That in the time of Sayna Umar bin
		
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			Abdul Aziz when he was the governor of
		
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			Medina,
		
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			the needs of the people became much more
		
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			complex. Like Islam spread, new cultures, new languages,
		
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			new types of people came into the community.
		
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			And with that,
		
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			you know, infusion of new people
		
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			becomes more problems,
		
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			more complexities.
		
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			So he decided he said, I'm going to
		
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			establish one day of the week
		
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			where I sit in the mosque
		
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			and listen to the claims of the oppressed.
		
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			Faas Asayoman,
		
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			he created a day for the oppressed. SubhanAllah.
		
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			And he would sit in the mosque
		
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			and listen to people.
		
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			This continued till the time of Abdul Balik
		
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			ibn Marwan
		
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			al Amawi,
		
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			who he said now it's like really complex,
		
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			like the community has continued to grow in
		
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			Damascus.
		
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			So now we need to appoint
		
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			in every city
		
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			a person. This is our history as a
		
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			community.
		
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			We need to appoint a person in every
		
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			mosque, major mosque in every major city
		
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			who can dedicate as
		
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			a employee of the governor of the government
		
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			to listen
		
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			to the voices
		
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			of the oppressed
		
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			Because they knew the hadith of Sayyidina Nabi.
		
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			That the prophet said, You should be mindful
		
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			of the prayer of the oppressed.
		
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			Because there's no hijab between the dua of
		
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			the oppressed
		
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			and Allah subhanahu wa ta'ala. There's nothing to
		
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			stop that dua.
		
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			This continued to to al Hadi al Abbasi,
		
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			and this is perhaps the only thing that
		
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			the Abbasis kept from the Amois.
		
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			The Abbasis and the Amoese
		
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			like each other about as much as the
		
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			Rams and the Patriots.
		
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			They didn't like each other. And we know
		
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			that they they there was a genocide of
		
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			the the prophet's family and then they continued
		
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			this massacre of themselves.
		
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			But one of the things that the Abbasis
		
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			kept up to Al Hadi al Thani
		
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			is this day for justice.
		
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			And Al Hadi,
		
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			one of the leaders, one of the Khalifas,
		
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			not only does he keep it as a
		
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			day, he creates an entire department
		
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			under the Islamic State
		
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			dedicated
		
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			to
		
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			the sincere investigation of people who claim to
		
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			have been oppressed
		
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			by the government.
		
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			We go to Andalus in the time of
		
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			Al Mansur,
		
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			Muhammad ibn U'amer. Mashallah. He's the founder of
		
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			what we know now as like postcard Andalus.
		
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			Before that Andalus can belled, belled, mugrimin.
		
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			It was like known as a bad place.
		
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			Al Mansur, one day he was sitting in
		
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			his office
		
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			as the Khalifa of Andalus, and a man
		
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			he came.
		
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			And in those days, you know, there were
		
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			scribes. People used to sit next to the
		
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			leaders and write what they said. So this
		
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			man, he came into
		
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			his
		
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			court.
		
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			And,
		
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			Mohammed ibn Aamer al Mansoor, he was, like,
		
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			surprised. Like, who's this guy? Like, why is
		
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			he in our court? And he said, I
		
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			have a complaint for Allah.
		
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			He said, I have a complaint for Allah.
		
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			Halas, man. It's serious.
		
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			He said, yeah. He said, you see the
		
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			guy next to you?
		
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			The scribe, the katib? He said, yeah. He
		
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			said,
		
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			I I subpoenaed him
		
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			at least 4 times because he wronged me.
		
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			And because he's in your court,
		
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			he's refusing to come.
		
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			So he's using his political privilege.
		
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			Then Mansur,
		
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			he told the kateb,
		
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			the writer, the scribe,
		
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			Is that true?
		
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			He said, Yes. He said, Okay. Go down.
		
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			So he stood in front of them. He
		
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			said, I'm gonna judge between you because this
		
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			is the Haqq of Allah on me to
		
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			make sure that people are not oppressed.
		
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			This is our tradition.
		
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			Not to be quiet
		
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			but to be active
		
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			in making sure that people, whether in our
		
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			home, through our marriages, through our children, through
		
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			our friends, through our community,
		
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			People have the opportunity to experience justice
		
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			because justice
		
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			in society is like what
		
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			We'll do
		
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			to salah.
		
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			We say this, right?
		
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			So he couldn't judge between them. This is
		
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			the remarkable point.
		
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			And this is in a complete different text
		
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			I'm quoting from.
		
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			He could not decide between them. He could
		
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			not judicate.
		
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			So he said,
		
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			Go to the department
		
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			of the Alleviation
		
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			of Oppression.
		
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			In
		
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			Spanish
		
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			Andalusian
		
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			Arab society,
		
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			there was a department
		
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			established
		
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			by a Mansour
		
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			to alleviate
		
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			Vroom.
		
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			That's your history.
		
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			And that's why the hadith says,
		
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			I made oppression Haram on myself. Allah is
		
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			talking,
		
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			Fajadhu baynaqumu
		
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			Haramu Falaatawalaimu.
		
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			So I made it as an as Haram
		
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			for you.
		
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			Unfortunately,
		
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			in recent months years,
		
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			we've seen I lived in Egypt. I was
		
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			talking myself, brilliant brother here.
		
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			Incredible pictures.
		
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			That even religious
		
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			figures
		
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			have now somehow sold
		
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			the idea
		
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			that we should just accept
		
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			evil
		
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			regardless of where we are, whether it's in
		
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			America. You know, don't get involved. Don't rock
		
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			the boat. Don't get trumped
		
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			by your fears.
		
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			Trumped being the
		
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			verb. Or whether it's abroad
		
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			or somehow in the name of religion,
		
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			you should just take it to the jaw
		
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			man.
		
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			Khuruj Al Hakam
		
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			Haram.
		
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			But if you look at verses of the
		
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			Quran, it makes it very clear
		
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			that the obedience to leaders is based on
		
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			their commitment to justice.
		
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			Allah says,
		
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			Allah said, don't obey those who their hearts
		
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			We have made void of our remembrance. We've
		
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			made them negligent.
		
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			In the Quran. Don't obey a sinner.
		
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			And we find
		
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			classic scholars
		
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			taking very, very
		
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			important positions.
		
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			So for those students of knowledge, if you
		
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			go to jalasa's tasir al akam, ayat al
		
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			akam,
		
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			volume 1, page 86.
		
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			He says very clearly when Allah says,
		
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			That my promise is not for the oppressors.
		
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			He says,
		
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			He said, This verse proves
		
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			that the leadership
		
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			of a rebellious person, an oppressor,
		
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			someone who doesn't obey Allah
		
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			in the sense of the Muslim community. And
		
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			someone who oppresses people
		
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			is false.
		
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			And that it is not an obligation upon
		
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			the Muslims to obey them.
		
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			Imam al Razi
		
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			and his famous tafsir,
		
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			volume 10,
		
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			page 104 page 416.
		
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			Sorry, page 84.
		
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			He says
		
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			that
		
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			commenting on this verse,
		
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			You know my After he says to Sayyidina
		
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			Ibrahim,
		
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			I've made you a leader.
		
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			What about my children?
		
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			The leadership isn't for the oppressor,
		
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			the verse says. It's in front of us.
		
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			And now we have people in the Muslim
		
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			community
		
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			telling us
		
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			that we should not work honestly and responsibly
		
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			of course. I'm not saying go crazy. That's
		
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			the other extreme. We have a problem. We're
		
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			either dormant or we're
		
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			insane. We should be in the middle.
		
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			Al Razi, he said something very powerful.
		
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			He said
		
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			that the obedience And he was talking about
		
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			the leaders of his time.
		
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			Absolute obedience
		
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			to these people he said,
		
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			That in fact it is not allowed.
		
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			Because the only thing that they command us
		
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			to is oppression and evil.
		
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			We find of course scholars like Imam Anawy
		
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			in his explanation of Sahih Muslim.
		
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			He says,
		
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			Haram. Imam Anawy, he says, you know, there's
		
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			a consensus amongst Ahlus Sunnah that any type
		
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			of political engagement is haram. But Imam ibn
		
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			Hajar who comes 200 years after Anawi,
		
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			he corrects this statement.
		
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			And remember this,
		
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			You know, to claim consensus usually it's not
		
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			strong.
		
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			But Imam, ibn Hajar,
		
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			he said that if it is possible
		
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			to remove
		
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			a rebellious
		
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			evil leader in a peaceful way, and we
		
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			saw what happened in Egypt
		
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			in the real revolution.
		
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			I was there
		
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			when some of the Sufi sheikhs and some
		
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			of the Sadafi sheikhs came on the radio
		
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			and told us, it's haram. Don't go outside.
		
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			Stay home.
		
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			So people were like confused.
		
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			But that was a peaceful protest, mashallah.
		
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			So Imam Ibn Hajar who comes in the
		
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			9th century after everybody,
		
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			he says, if it is possible to peacefully
		
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			and without harm
		
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			remove these people,
		
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			then it became an obligation.
		
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			So the point that I'm trying to make
		
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			is that in general, in America, we should
		
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			be committed to black lives matter. We should
		
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			committed to these immigrant brothers and sisters.
		
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			4000 children on the Mexican border.
		
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			We should be committed
		
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			to the
		
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			and this is something that we're really going
		
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			to face, especially with AI coming into this
		
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			situation. And this environmental catastrophe, environmental resilience
		
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			is the Sufism of this era.
		
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			You should go home tonight and get rid
		
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			of all the plastics in your house as
		
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			much as you can.
		
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			That is an act of great religious commitment
		
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			to buy used clothes.
		
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			That is an act of a of a
		
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			person who really is in tune
		
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			with environmental resilience.
		
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			Buying Yeezy's
		
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			is to be caught up in the cult
		
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			of consumption.
		
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			Although sometimes you're not me.
		
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			And then secondly, we should not be duped
		
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			by this false message
		
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			of Sunni, and I'm saying because we're Sunnis,
		
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			Sunni quietism
		
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			that goes back to the time of the
		
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			Amoese
		
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			who begin to craft a message
		
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			that political engagement
		
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			in any shape or form is forbidden.
		
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			And then it was fleshed out by the
		
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			Abbasis.
		
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			Whereas we see now, I just gave you
		
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			examples
		
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			of early Muslims,
		
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			scholars,
		
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			nuancing this position.
		
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			And that's why Sayyidina Abu Bakr,
		
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			Imam
		
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			Abu Bakr Sadiq,
		
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			He said, Altiyaruni
		
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			Maata'atullah
		
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			Obey me as long as I obey God.
		
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			Warasulah and His messenger. Fainaasayitallaha
		
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			warasulah,
		
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			and if I disobey Allah and His messenger,
		
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			then don't obey me.
		
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			And that's why Sayedna Imam Hussain,
		
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			when he rose up against Yazid, he said,
		
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			I believe that if I don't oppose you,
		
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			I will have no excuse in front of
		
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			God.
		
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			And I know of no greater fitna for
		
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			the Ummah
		
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			than your leadership. So we see he's compelled
		
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			by a sense of justice.
		
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			That takes me to the last point.
		
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			And that often times we get really charismatic,
		
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			our community, historically.
		
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			Remember this and this is something we could
		
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			talk about in the future.
		
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			We've always
		
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			been swayed
		
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			by charismatic
		
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			idiots
		
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			and neglected scholarship.
		
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			So now we find that people, Oh, I
		
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			just can't wait to hear this talk. But
		
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			if you say, Your local imam is teaching
		
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			twice a week. You should go and really
		
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			invest and learn your religion. Man, that's boring,
		
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			man.
		
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			Whereas SubhanAllah as Imam Ibnuqayim
		
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			said, That's more important
		
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			than the charismatic
		
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			high.
		
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			We see in this country through the evangelical
		
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			community,
		
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			charisma, which is untethered from the gospel of
		
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			Christ
		
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			has And we'll let my brother talk about
		
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			it. Has allowed people to be swayed away
		
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			from the beatitudes.
		
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			To be swayed away from the Sermon of
		
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			the Mount. To be swayed away from prophecy.
		
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			Because passion that is untethered
		
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			leads people away from prophecy in a way
		
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			which is very dangerous
		
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			because it feels good.
		
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			Like the young boy who commits to like
		
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			a jihadist group, he feels that he's doing
		
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			something right. Imam Ibn Qayyim said, This is
		
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			the worst, most dangerous type of trick of
		
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			shaitan because he makes it look good to
		
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			you.
		
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			But when I tether myself
		
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			in religious knowledge,
		
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			and I root myself in orthodoxy,
		
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			I protect myself from irresponsible
		
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			conservatism
		
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			and
		
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			and and irrational liberalism.
		
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			So the last point is, maybe you're listening,
		
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			you're like, yo I'm ready to go vote
		
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			right now. There's no election tomorrow.
		
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			But one thing we can do, and this
		
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			is what the United Nations continues to say,
		
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			is that the greatest asset we can give
		
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			to threatened societies
		
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			is sustainability.
		
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			Sustainability
		
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			and the opportunity
		
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			for education.
		
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			We've seen our helping hand, Masha'allah,
		
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			in the name of establishing justice because justice
		
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			is the outcome of a deliberate process of
		
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			incremental ideas
		
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			and strategies.
		
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			Justice just doesn't happen tomorrow.
		
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			But by supporting the work, especially and
		
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			Syria,
		
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			I don't know if people
		
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			appreciate
		
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			the devastation
		
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			that has happened
		
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			across the board in Syria.
		
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			You have a generation of children,
		
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			generations of children now who had no opportunity
		
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			to begin their public school education.
		
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			So you have the threat of illiteracy.
		
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			You have the threat of people not being
		
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			given basic rudimentary
		
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			skills
		
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			to think about life.
		
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			So in the face of that, we find
		
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			helping hand, and again, the UN study that
		
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			says the greatest way to counter terrorism or
		
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			jihadist groups
		
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			or radical groups like ISIS, heterodoxical
		
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			groups,
		
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			is development and opportunity.
		
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			So brothers and sisters, Masha'Allah,
		
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			tonight we're going to be asked to help.
		
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			And I hope that you will find your
		
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			donation, your commitment
		
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			is something which is contributing
		
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			to that long process of the establishment
		
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			of justice.
		
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			May Allah
		
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			bless all of you,
		
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			and bless this community.