Suhaib Webb – AlRazi’s Foundations of The Sacred (Lesson Two) Interpretation & The Qur’an

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The Bible is used to respond to the holy spirit and encourage people to interpret it for a deeper understanding of Jesus' sacred text. Reciting the verse "verge the stars" is important for personal growth and knowledge. The importance of interpretation and models in the Bible is emphasized, along with the need for a rich Christian tradition. The importance of models and not trying to convince anyone of their own interpretation of the verse "na'ed" is emphasized, and models are not tried to convince anyone of their own interpretation of the verse.

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			Alhamdulillah, we're going to continue now our readings
		
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			through Assessu Taqdis of Sayedni Imam al Razi,
		
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			especially in this age of men and modernity.
		
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			When interpretation,
		
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			you find extremes on all sides. So it's
		
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			important that
		
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			in engaging religious texts, we are not projecting
		
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			onto the text,
		
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			but we are
		
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			understanding the text correctly. That's why aqidah
		
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			actually is taught
		
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			before tafsir
		
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			because without the proper rules of
		
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			a person may get lost,
		
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			may get confused.
		
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			So reading from this book that tackles the
		
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			idea of transcendence
		
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			and, at times, the necessity for interpretation,
		
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			It's important to understand that Imam al Razi
		
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			is writing this book to respond to the
		
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			hyperlittilists,
		
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			as well as what we would consider now
		
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			irresponsible,
		
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			like, people who are irresponsible,
		
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			lead loose
		
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			in their understandings and
		
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			interpretations
		
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			of the sacred texts. So al Razi is
		
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			trying to find this middle path, if you
		
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			will, based on
		
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			what has been passed on from the early
		
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			Muslims.
		
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			Our first lesson, we talked about the certain
		
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			ideas and rules and concepts related to taweed,
		
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			and now we're going to talk about,
		
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			as Imam Razi is going to walk us
		
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			through this, around the 8 verses of Quran,
		
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			where you have to interpret. Like you have
		
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			no choice but to interpret.
		
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			And I think that's very profound that he
		
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			puts, as we say, he puts his money
		
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			where his mouth is, like he immediately
		
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			shows how this idea is applied.
		
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			So he's gonna mention our 8 verses of
		
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			Quran,
		
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			we will walk through them, and I have
		
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			some notes as well that I took
		
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			through time, that also I hope will animate
		
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			the discussion and provide perhaps some information that
		
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			you are not used to hearing and may
		
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			open up your mind
		
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			to the majority of Sunni theologians
		
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			that unfortunately most English speaking Muslims, for a
		
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			number of reasons,
		
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			haven't been exposed to.
		
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			And we're not learning this to go and
		
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			fight and
		
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			dismantle,
		
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			we do that enough, Let's learn this so
		
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			that we can increase our relationship with Allah
		
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			Subhanahu Wa Ta'ala,
		
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			our understanding of his sacred text, and that
		
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			we can turn that into devotion.
		
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			Imam Abu Mohammed Al Ghazali says,
		
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			That the fruit of knowledge is worship.
		
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			And there may be times where you need
		
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			to equalize and mediate amongst people, but we
		
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			need to do that insha'Allah in a way
		
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			that builds, if possible,
		
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			and doesn't seek to destroy.
		
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			The default, unfortunately, now seems to be destruction
		
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			for a lot of reasons.
		
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			And, you know, my my school is a
		
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			very simple school,
		
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			you know, forgive, I don't have all the
		
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			bells and whistles and you know, all that
		
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			stuff, man. I just enjoy
		
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			sharing information, learning and teaching,
		
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			And I try my best just to make
		
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			sure the information can get to people,
		
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			in a way that is accessible
		
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			and affordable
		
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			and
		
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			meaningful
		
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			and beneficial.
		
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			What does that mean? The Imam has said,
		
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			nafana Allahu may Allah benefit us, bi ilmihi
		
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			with his knowledge,
		
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			in this life and the next. It's a
		
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			nice thing to say when we read to
		
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			our teachers.
		
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			And now he's gonna mention these verses. So
		
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			the first he says,
		
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			You heard me before I read the verse
		
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			I said
		
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			Be careful if you speak English that you
		
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			don't go
		
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			or
		
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			it's
		
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			Secondly,
		
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			the Quran agree that it is obligatory to
		
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			read
		
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			the Istiad
		
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			before
		
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			we recite the Quran outside of salah.
		
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			Allah Subhanahu Wa Ta'ala says in the Quran,
		
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			When you want to recite the Quran, seek
		
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			refuge in Allah.
		
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			And Sayyidina Imam Ashaltibi in his poem on
		
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			the 7 of Qur'at which we learned from
		
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			our masheikh, Alhamdulillah
		
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			he
		
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			said,
		
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			And this poem Mashallah can you imagine he
		
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			wrote a poem, has all of the 7
		
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			qira'at Mashallah. I used to read this poem
		
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			to Sheikh Muhammad
		
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			Awol Fattoo, I still read it to him
		
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			Alhamdulillah
		
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			and Imam Ashal Tabi says
		
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			anytime you want to Qura'u,
		
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			you want to recite the Quran, first tayid
		
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			then
		
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			say
		
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			and then he mentions his opinion Jiharan
		
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			with a voice, don't say it silently, say
		
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			it out loud.
		
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			Minash shaitan
		
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			from shaitan be lahi with Allah Musjala.
		
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			Anyways, our point is
		
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			verse number 35
		
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			We should all memorize this verse, it's very
		
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			important, it's one of the verses every Muslim
		
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			should know, because it's talking about you and
		
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			me, talking about our purpose,
		
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			alhamdulillah, and our relationship to to guidance.
		
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			But the point is, Nur
		
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			Allah is the light of the heavens and
		
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			the earth. You can't interpret that literally.
		
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			These lights I have on them,
		
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			for Sid Nashek he says
		
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			What does that mean? Every intelligent person knows
		
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			by necessity.
		
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			You speak Arabic, Al Badiha a Aburura,
		
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			You don't have to think about it.
		
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			He said that anyone that has a grain
		
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			of sense
		
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			by necessity,
		
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			will immediately con immediately con conclude
		
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			that the creator of all things, the creator
		
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			of the universe,
		
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			right, is not the same light that, for
		
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			example, you see shining here,
		
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			shining on the walls, shining on a fence,
		
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			or it's the same, he is the same
		
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			light that
		
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			emanates from
		
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			objects in the universe, like the sun, the
		
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			moon, and the stars.
		
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			He says that so therefore any one of
		
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			us who has any grain of sense has
		
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			to interpret this verse.
		
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			Allahu Surat Anur verse 35
		
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			That Allah is the one that has illuminated
		
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			the heavens and the earth. I will be
		
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			Anna who had
		
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			the
		
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			Allah
		
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			is the one that guides
		
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			those in the heavens and the earth.
		
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			And he says, oh, that Allah subhanahu wa
		
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			ta'ala is the one that rectifies all things
		
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			in the heavens and the earth. And all
		
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			of these that he's just mentioned are tawil,
		
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			interpretation.
		
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			Someone may say this isn't the way of
		
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			the salaf.
		
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			This isn't the way of the salaf, and
		
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			I appreciate that passion.
		
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			I I have been in those those spaces
		
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			before. I studied
		
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			with a few students of Sheikh Ibn Uthaimin,
		
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			Sheikh As Salih from Qasim
		
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			as well as Sheikh Abdul Hamoud. I consider
		
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			them my teachers
		
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			over 25 years ago.
		
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			So, I've been in those gatherings.
		
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			However,
		
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			Imam al Tabari,
		
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			he mentions that Saydna Imam ibn Abbas, or
		
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			radiAllahu anhumathe nephew of the Prophet SallAllahu Alaihi
		
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			Wasallam, who the Prophet made dua that Allah
		
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			would give him the ability to interpret the
		
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			Quran correctly.
		
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			He says about
		
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			he
		
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			says that
		
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			as Imam Ar Razi mentions means the one
		
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			who administrates.
		
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			Here we see al Sahabi,
		
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			Sayna ibn Abbas,
		
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			radiAllahu
		
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			anhuuma
		
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			making tatweel.
		
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			Making tatweel of this verse.
		
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			Imam Asalmaqas Samarkandi
		
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			also,
		
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			he mentions that Sayyidina Abbas radhiallahu anhu
		
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			has
		
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			similar
		
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			understandings of this
		
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			from Abi Al Aarya not from Ibn Abbas.
		
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			Who
		
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			says that and again, Abu Aliyah is from
		
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			the Salaf
		
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			interprets the verse to mean Allah Subhanahu Wa
		
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			Ta'ala is the noor of the heavens and
		
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			the earth, meaning Allah Subhanahu Wa Ta'ala
		
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			illuminates the hearts of those in the heavens
		
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			and the earth
		
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			with his forgiveness and his tawhid.
		
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			The point is, here we have 2 salaf,
		
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			from the salaf, they're making.
		
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			So we had to be very, very careful
		
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			that sometimes
		
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			we rush to conclusions without doing research,
		
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			because that may force us to be harsh
		
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			on people on issues where there's no need
		
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			to be harsh,
		
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			and where there is a precedent amongst the
		
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			salaf,
		
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			and that we need to approach each other
		
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			in a much better way,
		
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			a much better way.
		
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			3rd verse,
		
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			or excuse me, the second verse,
		
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			Imam al Razi says, kalallahu ta'ala ba'adaa'udubilam
		
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			shaitanarajim, I only need to say it once
		
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			by the way.
		
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			In Surat Al Hadid verse 25, Allah says,
		
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			and we sent Al Hadid iron
		
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			which has extreme strength.
		
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			He said it's known that iron, this resource,
		
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			did not, or element,
		
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			did not
		
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			descend from the universe. Although now we know
		
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			that's true.
		
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			In the time of Imam al Razi, Rahim
		
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			Muhullah, who was a respected scientist, and as
		
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			well as a physician,
		
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			an astronomer,
		
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			they didn't know that, now we know that.
		
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			So now we would say, actually, you don't
		
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			have to make that, we live that, the
		
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			Quran
		
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			is speaking the truth.
		
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			And Allah who Subhanahu Wa Ta'ala says in
		
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			Surat Zumar verse number 6,
		
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			That Allah has, Inzal means
		
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			and nuzul
		
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			something goes from up to being down, so
		
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			Allah Subhana Wa Ta'ala sent
		
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			cattle.
		
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			Sheykh he says,
		
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			We all know cows, they didn't even come
		
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			from the heavens. So here we have to
		
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			interpret,
		
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			we have to go to the rules of
		
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			interpretation. And those details you can learn in
		
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			Ulomu Quran, in Osullu Filq, in Balaha and
		
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			even Mantak.
		
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			What I'm trying to do now is just
		
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			help you appreciate that there is
		
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			a larger, more rich
		
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			tradition
		
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			found amongst our scholars, amongst our righteous, respected
		
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			scholars, Raheemuhumullah.
		
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			In fact,
		
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			Imam Al Haramain
		
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			when he was asked about this verse
		
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			that we sent, you know, cows from the
		
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			heavens,
		
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			not not his father,
		
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			the other one
		
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			who died 4/76 after hijri.
		
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			Hijri, We have to interpret this verse.
		
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			It's impossible.
		
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			The 3rd
		
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			qalahu ta'ala, wahuwa ma'akum ayna ma'akuntum,
		
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			Allah is with you wherever you are.
		
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			Allah is with you wherever you are.
		
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			Imam ibn Juzayi he said
		
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			What that means Allah is with you wherever
		
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			you are is that his knowledge is with
		
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			you.
		
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			Subhanahu Wa Ta'ala.
		
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			Imam Al Khutibi
		
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			comments on a verse which is very similar
		
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			to this one. And that verse that I
		
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			mentioned just now is from Surat Hadid verse
		
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			number 4, but commenting on Suratakah verse 16.
		
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			Sayyidina Imam Al Qurtubi, he says about the
		
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			verse
		
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			we are closer to him than his jugular
		
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			vein.
		
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			Imam Al Khortubi says
		
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			meaning that nearness here does not mean distance,
		
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			physical distance,
		
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			means his knowledge.
		
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			That's why Imam,
		
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			Al Tabari
		
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			and others, if you look at the verse,
		
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			they all
		
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			share this notion of tawheed effect about the
		
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			verse
		
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			Allah is with you wherever you are,
		
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			Say the Imam Al Tabari says,
		
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			he's witnessing you.
		
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			Ibn alaikum
		
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			Allah is
		
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			observing you,
		
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			watching everything you do but he's not with
		
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			you, with you, like we are with each
		
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			other.
		
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			So it's impossible
		
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			to interpret that
		
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			literally and that's why the Shaykh he says,
		
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			Say,
		
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			That anyone that has any brain of sense
		
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			knows that this means nearness
		
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			or Allah's incredible
		
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			capacity and power and transcendent strength
		
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			to know all things.
		
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			The 4th,
		
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			Allah
		
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			says,
		
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			prostrate to Allah
		
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			and draw closer to him.
		
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			If we say Iqtarab, Iqtarab to him and
		
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			Shay means actually drew physically near to it.
		
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			But that's not what this means.
		
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			And that's why the Sheikh he says
		
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			He said that what this means is that
		
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			you draw nearer to Allah subhanahu wa ta'ala
		
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			through obeying him and
		
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			being
		
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			subservient to him.
		
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			Said it's known by necessity that if you
		
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			make sujood to something you don't draw physically
		
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			near to it. So it's impossible for that
		
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			to be its meaning.
		
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			So
		
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			therefore, interpretation
		
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			is a must.
		
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			The 5th,
		
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			Allah Subhanu wa Ta'ala says,
		
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			verse number 115.
		
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			Waqala Subhanahu Wa Ta'ala, we mentioned this verse
		
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			already,
		
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			earlier.
		
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			This is a different verse
		
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			But it carries the same meaning, Allah Subhanu
		
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			wa Ta'ala is extremely near to you but
		
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			you don't see.
		
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			You can't see him.
		
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			So the first, if you look at the
		
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			word waje, it means face,
		
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			waje,
		
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			my face. And actually the word wadji means
		
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			something that's clear because my face is what
		
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			tells you about who I am.
		
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			So we look at the interpretation
		
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			of the salaf,
		
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			and for example,
		
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			everything
		
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			The Quran Allah says everything will perish except
		
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			the waj of Allah.
		
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			Imam
		
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			ibn Juzayi he says about that verse, that
		
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			everything will perish except the waj of Allah.
		
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			He said that the scholars agree that this
		
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			verse, everyone agrees that this verse has to
		
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			be interpreted.
		
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			And that's why we find different interpretations
		
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			from those incredibly
		
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			reliable scholars that are rooted
		
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			in the opinions of the salaf. Imam says,
		
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			He says, means his existence. Everything will perish
		
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			except the existence of Allah Subhanahu Wa Ta'ala.
		
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			Imam Iru Tamir about the verse I mentioned
		
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			earlier in Majma Al Fatawah, I believe volume
		
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			6,
		
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			ill wajh, everything will perish except the wajh
		
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			of Allah, he interprets it there. I can't
		
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			remember his exact interpretation.
		
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			Well, Sayyidina Imam al Tabari also,
		
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			says
		
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			that's the qibla. You need in this verse
		
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			Fa'aina matuwalu
		
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			fathamaqibla
		
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			Allahi
		
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			Meaning the qibla,
		
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			direction you turn, you're going to find the
		
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			qibla
		
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			of Allah Subhanu wa Ta'ala quote these verses
		
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			are talking about
		
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			before
		
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			the changing of the Kaaba.
		
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			The point is you can see here now
		
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			there is a robust
		
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			tradition rooted in what Imam Al Razi has
		
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			been talking about in our first session.
		
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			And here we see the sunaf and the
		
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			early scholars
		
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			taking opinions that are rooted in tatwil.
		
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			Of course, it doesn't mean we run wild
		
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			with interpretation, there are rules and regulations for
		
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			this that we can learn in the books
		
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			of Usul ad Din and also the books
		
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			of Ulamat Tafsir.
		
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			That's why Imam ibn Kathir radhiallahu ta'ala Anhu
		
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			he says
		
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			about
		
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			this verse,
		
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			fa'ilama tuwalufathama
		
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			wajhullahi
		
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			Khaledha to who?
		
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			Allah's existence. Was Sayyidina Imam Jafar as Sadiq
		
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			radiAllahu anhu,
		
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			he said deenahu,
		
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			the deen of Allah everything
		
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			except for
		
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			the deen of Allah, the religion of Allah.
		
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			These
		
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			Jafar al Sadiq is
		
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			from the Salaf.
		
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			So here we see again
		
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			the interpretation
		
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			of the dawahir of the nusus.
		
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			The 6th part of subhanahu wa ta'ala
		
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			verse
		
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			245,
		
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			who will give to Allah
		
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			a good loan?
		
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			Allah Subhanahu Wa Ta'ala So it's impossible for
		
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			that to mean that Allah Subhanahu Wa Ta'ala
		
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			needs a loan from us,
		
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			because we know Allah doesn't need our worship,
		
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			Subhanahu wa ta'ala.
		
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			So we find scholars
		
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			largely based on the context of the verse
		
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			talk about this is rooted in someone who
		
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			dies in jihad. That's why Sayedni Imam Arazi
		
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			he says,
		
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			There has to be tawil of that verse.
		
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			The next verse we find in Surat Al
		
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			Nahal verse 26, Allah says,
		
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			Be careful, don't say
		
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			Faata, has its own meaning. But this is
		
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			fair
		
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			a ataqib
		
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			ata.
		
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			And ata means came,
		
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			so
		
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			fa'talahu,
		
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			fa'talahu
		
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			not fa'ta.
		
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			Of course,
		
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			can't understand this literally, Allah Subhanu wa Ta'ala
		
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			came to their structures,
		
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			from
		
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			the foundations.
		
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			So we find Imam al Tabari says ahadama,
		
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			Allah destroyed their structure.
		
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			Imam ibn Kati RadiAllahu Anhu, he said Amra,
		
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			that Allah's command came and destroyed
		
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			their structure from their foundations.
		
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			That's why Imam said Na'arazi says,
		
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			you have to make tawil of that.
		
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			The 9th,
		
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			oh sorry the 8th,
		
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			I'm with you
		
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			hearing and seeing.
		
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			The sheikh, he says
		
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			that the withness here
		
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			can only mean protection, knowledge and mercy.
		
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			Minalumur
		
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			allatila
		
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			buddariqulli
		
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			aapirim
		
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			minal
		
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			i'tiraf
		
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			bihamdalihaalataweel
		
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			Now he ends this section talking about modeling.
		
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			These aren't the only verses but he just
		
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			wants to model around 8 of them for
		
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			us.
		
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			So he says,
		
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			so
		
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			this verse and these other examples that I
		
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			have presented to you, as well as others,
		
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			are those which
		
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			anyone that has an ingrain of sense will
		
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			admit
		
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			that these texts have to be interpreted,
		
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			and we have to interpret them away from
		
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			their explicit meanings.
		
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			And the salaf, they had two approaches to
		
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			this,
		
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			or tawil.
		
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			Next
		
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			time insha'Allah, we'll do the exact same thing
		
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			with certain ahadith of the prophet sallallahu alayhi
		
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			wa sallam.
		
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			If you, alhamdulillah,
		
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			differ with us on these opinions and you
		
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			follow, alhamdulillah, other opinions, that's
		
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			that's that's I'm not here to try to
		
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			convince anybody.
		
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			I don't think that this is is that
		
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			kind of issue that we need to continue
		
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			to fight or out,
		
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			and destroy each other over. We need to
		
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			build. We're suffering. We have so many enemies.
		
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			But I do feel that it's important that
		
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			we talk about
		
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			how this idea is not something that was
		
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			conducted
		
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			by others outside of the era of the
		
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			earliest
		
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			Muslims.
		
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			May
		
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			Allah bless you and increase you. Assalamu alaikum