Shadee Elmasry – Why Boycotting Starbucks Matters

Shadee Elmasry
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The speakers emphasize the importance of separating companies from owners and acknowledging the harm caused by anti-browism. They also discuss legal campaigns against illegal West Bank settlements, including a campaign against Starbucks, and the importance of acknowledging the harm caused by owners. The speakers emphasize the need for micro decisions to avoid major losses and the need for people to change their views. They also touch on Howard Schultz's personal life and his influence on policies, including his involvement in policies related to the worker union and the worker's union's support for the defended policies.
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We don't separate between the company and its owners. If the

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owner is a Zionist, then what is supporting him being a Zionist his

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company, so I'm not going to be buying if and I know that

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accompany the owner is actively accepting and supporting the

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apartheid in Gaza, and the West Bank and this oppression that I

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have to boycott his company. You can't separate between the two.

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What what How is he so successful? And does the boycott matter? Yeah,

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it doesn't matter. I'll tell you what it matters because it's a

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micro decision that Allah is watching. That's how I view it. I

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don't view it as Oh, this is going to hurt his business, probably

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not.

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I view it that if I if I'm on Amazon, and I'm selecting coffee

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beans to order to my house, I can order from Starbucks and I can

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order. I mean, nobody buys Starbucks from Amazon. But just as

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a hypothetical, I can order Starbucks, I'm ordering a French

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press, I can order it from Starbucks. I can order it from

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random company, some random company, that is a micro decision

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in our lives, right? The way to avoid catastrophes is to avoid

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some micro losses, small losses. If you avoid

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20 Micro losses a day, that 20 times 365 times 300 is 6000,

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losses, 6000 losses, 6000 little bad things is gonna bring you a

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problem some way, shape and form. Alright, Hamza, take it away. Tell

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us what we should think about.

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What's his name? Schultz, Charles Schultz, whatever the name is.

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Howard Schultz. What should we think about Howard Schultz? And

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are we boycotting Starbucks? Yeah, so Howard Schultz is an

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interesting figure, because he's a, you know, a very avid supporter

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of Zionism of Zionist causes all this sort of stuff.

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And in the past, Starbucks has been targeted as part of like the

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BDS movement. But Starbucks actually released a statement in

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the past, and they said that, you know, we don't support the

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occupation. Anyway, our company doesn't support these things, all

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that and even the BDS movement to boycott divestment sanctions when

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they even said that Starbucks is not one of kind of the objects of

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our boycott. And what the BDS movement said was, we are targeted

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boycott. So we target companies that we know can successfully kind

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of be affected by these boycotts. So they, they normally target not

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super big companies, because if you want to target like

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McDonald's, McDonald's is, in a sense, kind of too big to fail.

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It's one of the biggest corporations in the world. But if

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you target a company, like SodaStream, SodaStream, was

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operating, operating an illegal West Bank settlements, there was a

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campaign of boycotts against them. And then so SodaStream actually

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moved out of the settlements. So that was kind of like a win for

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the BDS movement, in a sense. But recently, what Starbucks did is

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their workers union released a statement, basically saying that

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we stand with the Palestinian people, we stand in solidarity

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with Palestine, all of this sort of stuff. And then following that

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Starbucks, the workers union actually ended up taking down the

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tweet. And Starbucks actually sued the union. And they said that you

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were hurting our image of this sort of stuff. And then Starbucks

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also released their statement that, you know, we we stand with,

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you know, the Israeli civilians that were killed all that ignoring

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also that at this point, it was what 1400 Israelis that were

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killed. And I think as of like, half an hour ago, over 7000

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Palestinians have been killed in Gaza. So they issued a statement

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for the Israeli civilians that have been killed, but not for the

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over five times kind of Palestinian civilians that have

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been killed. So there's been a large boycott of Starbucks, really

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around the world around the global South, all that.

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And there are some interesting tweets, that humor if you want to

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put up like if you look at like countries like Kuwait countries

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like Qatar, the Starbucks is empty there.

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So it's kind of been a targeted boycott campaign, I was actually

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looking up if Starbucks stock has been affected, I found one article

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that says the stock has been affected. And then I saw another

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kind of article that says Starbucks stock is going down. But

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it didn't mention that because of this kind of boycott.

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So this is kind of the issue with kind of boycotting these big

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corporations is that you're not going to impact them in the way

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you can impact more material organization. But I still think

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it's important for kind of what you said that as Muslims, it's not

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always for us about what creates the impact. Sometimes you just

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have to make kind of the ethical moral decision. So that's

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something that's also very important. Like we have the Hadith

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where it says in Sahih Muslim it says, if the Day of Judgment is

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happening before you and you have a sapling in your in your head,

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you plant the sapling, you know, this app is not going to come to

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fruition because the Day of Judgment is happening, but you

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still kind of put in you still make the end

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Ethical Decision. And that's exactly what I want to mention.

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I don't expect

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when I do a boycott, the first tier of my expectation is not

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damaging that company. You know, when if a nation was to boycott

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the products of another nation that might be different, but as an

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individual, I don't expect it. My primary motivation for a boycott

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is that Allah is watching me. And he judges me on micro decisions.

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Look at the prophets Hadith, in which he looks at people and say,

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sorry, he

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describes people who are in jahannam. He said they didn't

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enter by big sense, right? They entered by small sins, which they

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despised, despised, meaning that it's, it's so tiny.

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Yet these things if you do 50 of that a day, 50 a day.

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How much is that in a year? How much is that in a in a decade? It

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becomes an unmovable mountain, much like the climate problems

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that we have today. One trip to the supermarket. Wow, what is that

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going to do with my car? Yeah, but times 5 billion, right a year.

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Now you have a problem. But because it was micro, it's like

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having sent someone threw sand in the studio, on the camera in the

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couches, on the TV in the keyboard? I would have much rather

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than take all that sand, put it in one Boulder and throw it in the

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through the window, right? Because I can identify that sand. It's so

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small, right? That it just gets everywhere. It's impossible to get

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it out. That's why I want people to completely change and transform

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their view of action. Okay, results are always results of

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micro deeds very small. What does Allah tell us? In the chapter of

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the Quran that is small that every child memorizes every myth, Carla

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Vera, the little Adam's wait of a deed you're gonna see it. Okay?

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Why? Well, what is this other than like a couple trillion atoms,

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right? Atoms are important. What is this body right here, except

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for billions upon billions of cells.

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Right? A bunch came and formed a heart a bunch came and formed a

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stomach a bunch of cavemen formed a skin, et cetera. So if we don't

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care about the micro actions, our personal micro actions, we're not

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going to succeed. Okay? So that's why That's my motivation is that

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Allah is watching this is a micro action. It's not going to its in

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itself affect Starbucks, I don't care, right. But do I know for a

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fact that a guy built his that built this empire, which I love,

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by the way, I love the business. I love the business. I love the

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branding. And I even like their, their, their the product too,

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right? Like the coffee itself, but and I use it as an office space,

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my justification for ever drinking, if I ever need office

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space, I buy a unit, a little small cup cup, and I consider that

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my rent. I feel like I need to buy some because I'm using their

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space, right? I have meetings there. I sit there for some

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downtime between events or meetings or something, we all go

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there. And that's my justification for but if the owner is now

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expressed the stating that he's a Zionist, and he's in his personal

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life, I cannot separate these two things. I can't go there. So

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that's where now to the current situation.

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They mentioned sympathy for Israelis, not for Palestinians.

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That's one thing. Secondly, that's one issue. Secondly, they

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their issue with the workers union to me isn't a non issue. The

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Workers Union use Starbucks to and made it appear as if a branch of

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Starbucks is supporting the Palestinians Starbucks, I'm gonna

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stop right there. To me, that's not an issue. I'll tell you what

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the biggest issue is Howard Schultz in his personal life,

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right? Is he personally and pull up that Arab news article and I'll

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read it to you guys. He personally in his personal life, has been

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involved has received awards has a very cozy relationship to IDF

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related organizations. Alright, Hamza, what do you have before I

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pulled this article up? It's an old article. Very old, but doesn't

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matter. Yep. What do you know about Howard Schultz in his

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personal life

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he donates to scientists causes blindness in himself over.

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I know that Starbucks itself. They always say that they don't support

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it doesn't make a difference. It's the owner is the one who's the

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beneficiary. Right? Like if I discovered that Phil Knight all of

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a sudden is donating money to I don't know some racist cause I'm

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not gonna buy his product. I don't care if Nike itself says no, no,

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we don't do this.

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And also keep in mind there's a two people are talking out of both

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sides of their mouth. People on one hand, are suppose if you

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support

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the Zionist IDF in one sphere, and then turn around and donate some

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money to the Palestinians, you're just someone ethic. Okay? And

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that's why schicken Majid al khateeb recently said if you make

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dua for a helluva, okay, and you stop there,

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all right, your DUA is incomplete. You must make dua against the

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people killing because

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you have to make dua against the oppressor. May Allah stop them at

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the very least May Allah guide them and stop them. Right? If

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you're a soft hearted person, and you say, well, I you know, I don't

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want to be so rough. Okay, May Allah guide them and stop them

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from oppression

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