Shadee Elmasry – The End Times Dr Ali Ataie NBF 284
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The Safina society discusses various news stories and events related to religion, including the confusion around the term "traditional Judaism," the use of "ep prays" in the Bible, and the history of the Messiah's actions. They also discuss the importance of the Bible's teachings and its cultural significance, as well as the historical significance of its influence on the church's culture. The transcript provides insight into the history and success of the Bible's use in anti--ism movements, including the return of Islam to the western, the return of Islam to the western, and the return of Islam to the western.
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Bismillah al Rahman al Rahim Al hamdu lillah wa Salatu was Salam
ala Rasulillah. What other early he was happy women were there.
Welcome everybody to the Safina society nothing but facts live
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they study Mattoon in the Arabic language. Today, I want to first
make an announcement that a person I've been following for a while on
on Twitter. And as some of you may know, I came up I got back on
Twitter after having tried to go close to nature get a goat that
turnout into a catastrophe. Okay, and I have to go to court for
that. And but I'm back on because I couldn't resist answering some
of these people his name is the truth Shepherd.
That's the
name that he goes by.
Masha Allah, Shepherd of truth, at truth, Shepherd, he's posting
really good stuff on Philistine on Gaza. And I'm like, Who is this
guy, he is wearing a cowboy hat and everything. It's an AI
picture. But
well, today, he said today, I probably took my Shahada and was
welcomed into Islam. Islam is the truth I've ever witnessed. There's
no God, but Allah and Muhammad, his Messenger of Allah, I was
talking once a while back with Shiva, he wrote a shoot yesterday
for me, and I was saying, you know, these Iraq, Afghanistan, you
know, former military, these guys, I believe these guys are actually
far closer to accepting Islam than what people imagine. They have
like an emotional hatred for Islam.
All right, that results from their wars. But when they're comparing,
if you look at what Islam was bringing to the table United
States versus what liberalism was bringing,
they would naturally align with Islam. And what is liberalism
bringing other than because of the failure of Christianity, it's just
failed, failed to, to stop this, this this disease of liberalism
and wilderness. And that's what they're fearing. Okay, there is a
cold, there's a cold civil war in America. And those guys, I'll say,
if they just looked at Islam, sincerely, they're gonna love it.
And it's happening. There's another person just took their
shahada recently, and this is someone who I seen in some of the
comments of my page, and I saw some of her posts, her name is Ali
Forza. And this is not a political commentator, she, she likes to
spiritual posts, that different she have put up. And she also
declared right here on Twitter that she entered Islam. So I truly
believe and I've said it many times, Islam will find a home in
America, meaning many, many, many, many millions upon millions upon
millions of hearts, well, Islam will enter into it. And once that
happens, you can't remove that religion from that lint in the
light out, of course. Now, let's get to our subject.
The End of Time is an important subject and Islam.
And it also has its own stories in Judaism and in Christianity, and
we're going to do a comparison and we're gonna see how these things
line up. And is there a group out there? Well, there is obviously we
wouldn't be doing this, that believes that we're actually on
the cusp of something. Therefore, we have to take action. Most
importantly, they're capable of taking major action that influence
you and me and millions of other people. That's why this is
relevant today. This is not just theory and storytelling about the
End of Times. Nobody cares about that. Okay, about other religions
and of times they have influence and impact and what
that we have really who's becoming one of the pretty much go to
resident experts on comparative religion, specifically Judaism,
and Christianity, very well versed in the Bible very well versed in
the Torah. Reverse Orientalism is happening here speaks Hebrew,
Doctor audio Thai, welcome to the Safina society nothing but facts
live stream. Thank you for having me. How are you? Very good, very
good. Of course, you all know Dr. Audio tie from the blogging,
theology, a live streams, the blog, theology, live streams, I
recommend you, you watch this, we plan on picking off picking up
where they left off. So I watched three or four of them, I think
you've been on mute maybe three or four times talking about
Christianity, but one time recently about radical Judaism.
And I watched that whole program. And I want to pick up sort of
where you left off.
For the for the viewers, if you want to hear about the fundamental
tenets of Judaism, you go to that one. The first half is about that.
I want to go into this end times of Judaism. And mainly the first
question I have to ask, is an epistemological question. This is
the boring question in terms of the drama and the juicy stuff. But
it's the most important one is the end time described directly in the
Word of God as Jews believe it to be the Torah.
Spinarak mono hemos ananassa, Muhammad, Allah Allah, he was a
major Marine. So there are passages in the Hebrew Bible,
right? The turnoff,
especially in Isaiah and the book of Ezekiel, the book of Zechariah.
That orthodox or I guess we can say traditional or normative,
Jewish authorities believe are describing the end times.
Now, Jews have an interesting way of reading these texts, right. So
they believe in this idea that Jewish sacred text is is
polyvalent, in the sense that the text might be describing some sort
of historical situation that's happening at that time. That's
called the shot for like, I guess we can call it sort of the
Valhalla meaning of the text, the apparent Clear, clear meaning of
the text, the apparent meaning.
But Scripture is also sort of Iraqi color, it's sort of
foreshadowing things to happen in the future.
So for example,
the in Zechariah, chapter 12, there's this description of
someone who's going to be pierced. And he's a great sort of general
or military leader. Now, this could have been referring to
somebody at that time when this book was actually written. But
according to this principle, that there's multiple layers of meaning
in the text. Most Jewish authorities would say that this is
also foreshadowing, the death of one of the two Messiahs, that's
going to come towards the end of time. So this is another
interesting thing is that most people don't know this. But most
Jews, at least the traditional, the Orthodox, I mean, these terms
are a little bit.
We have to sort of unpack them a little bit more. But we'll just
use the term traditional and traditional Judaism,
which is, you know, belief in the the the turnoff in the Talmud.
There's this belief in two Messiahs that are going to come
towards the end of time. Right? So Zachariah, chapter 12, is actually
describing the martyrdom of what they call the Josephine Messiah.
Okay, so there's two Messiahs. The first Messiah that's going to come
is called the mushy aka Ben Yosef. So the Messiah, son of Joseph. So
this is a military leader,
who's again, there's indications of him in the tun off, he's more
fleshed out in the Talmud. And in the Midrashim, you know, the sort
of TFs theater, if you will, in the in the traditional in the
classical tradition. So this is someone who's going to come he's
going to fight against Gog and Magog, or a dome as So Adam, this
is, you know, the, the rabbinical authorities in the Talmud, they
use all these sorts of weird terms, kind of the ciphers to sort
of its kind of coded language. So Edom is actually a reference to
Rome or Christianity, Christian, Christian Europe, something like
that. All of these are sort of called a dome.
So the Josephine Messiah is going to fight against Europeans
essentially, or against Christians.
And he's going to be martyred by them. He's going to be pierced
somehow they're going to impale him or some
thing. Why is he called the Josephine Messiah? Well, because
he, his father is from one of the tribes of Joseph either a frame or
Manassa. In his mother's from David.
So he's, he's, he's a Josephine Messiah. But then when he's he's
martyred, then someone called mushiya, Homeric, then Dahveed,
will arrive on the scene. So this is the Davidic King, Messiah. And
this is sort of the Messiah. Now for the for the Jews. This is the
real, this is the main guy right here. Right? So this Messiah, he
will deal with, according to Jewish authorities, he's really
going to deal more with sort of the Muslims, right, Ishmael, as
they say, Ishmael.
And basically, he's going to conquer the world through a type
of military campaign.
And then he's going to basically implement the Torah as the law of
the world, right? And rule from Jerusalem.
So that's basically what it is in a nutshell. So that's a little
known fact that Jews actually believe in two major messiahs.
Now, if you look in the Old Testament, a lot of people are
called Messiah. Right? The term Messiah is a bit ubiquitous in the
Old Testament, in Old Testament, this is Christian terminology.
Right? So Christians call the Old Testament, the Jews call it the
turnoff, which stands for Torah and the being kitto beam.
We can also call it the Hebrew Bible. So in the Tanakh different
types of people are called Messiah and mushy off. So you have King
messiahs, like David and Solomon,
but also Gentiles like Cyrus, and Isaiah 45. One, right. And the
Lord said to his mushiya, Kodesh, was who Cyrus, which is kind of
interesting, because there was this trend going and going down
few years ago, some people thought Trump was some sort of Messiah,
because I say a 45. One, right, and Trump is number 45, and
the capital of Jerusalem.
So they saw sort of these messianic
descriptions in him.
So kings are called Messiah and then priests are called Messiah,
like the sons of Aaron. They're called messiahs, and then prophets
are also called messiahs. Right. But when we're dealing with these
with the sort of eschatology of Judaism, the focus is really on
these two main Messiahs and really on that last one, that is the
Messiah. Okay.
And then certain things sort of have to happen. So, so how do you
know that this is how the Jews know that this is the actual
Messiah? Well, the rabbi's. They say that there are certain
indications that he has to fulfill basically, in order for him to
qualify as the Messiah. So there was a there was a second century
Jewish leader named Simon Bar Kokhba, who was endorsed as being
the Messiah in the second century, in Palestine, and actually Rabbi
Akiva, who was probably the greatest of the what's known as
the tonight and or the first second century, sort of Jewish
rabbis authorities. He endorsed Bar Kokhba as being the Messiah,
or Kokhba, actually was able to defeat the Romans at Fort Antonia
in Jerusalem.
And so he sees
the temple mount as it were. He
he was starting to mint coins. He was intending on bringing back the
sacrifices. He was going to rebuild the temple, but then he
was killed by the Romans. So he was not the Messiah, because the
Messiah, according to
traditional authorities, is not only from the seat of David,
and not only will he bring back the what's known as the Mallacoota
divvied the the sort of thrown a rule of David, but he will also
inaugurate
an in gathering of the Jews from diaspora. It's called the kibbutz
galoot. This is something that he has to do. So Simon Bar Kokhba was
viewed by many as being the the Messiah, that time Hadrian then
essentially committed a holocaust against them all.
And he wiped out a massive, massive percentage of the Jews
that existed at that time. So how do they then explain that? Do they
just say we got it wrong? He wasn't the Messiah. Yeah, so
basically, Akiva was wrong. I mean, he was a good candidate.
Right. But ultimately, Messiah cannot be killed. So that's
That's the deal breaker. Right? If he's killed that he's, he's not
the Messiah.
You know, one of my rabbi colleagues told the story he said
that a Christian one time, was speaking to him. And the Christian
said, you know, this, this, your greatest, your greatest rabbi from
the second century Rabbi Akiva, he made a mistake. He thought the
Messiah was the wrong person. So in other words, you're probably
making a mistake, Jesus is the Messiah.
And then so the rabbi said to him, Well, why wasn't why wasn't
barcode by the Messiah. And the Christian said, Well, he didn't
fulfill everything the Messiah was going to do. And the Romans killed
him. Yeah. And then the rabbi said, Well, you know, there you
go, you know.
This is why we reject at least your version of Jesus peace be
upon him, because he didn't fulfill at least what is
traditionally known to be considered to be sort of these
criteria for the Vedic Messiah. And then he was killed by the
Romans. Let me let's let's since we're on the subject of Jesus, let
me ask you a simple question.
We often know that is anti semitic to say that the rabbi's are
responsible for the
killing of Jesus of Christ in the Christian worldview. And that
really was the Romans who did it, because he was a rebel, right?
But there's also pretty much known that he only had 12 followers.
So why would the Romans really care about a rebel with only 12
followers? story doesn't add up?
Yeah.
I mean, it's a You're right. It's not PC. The New Testament is very
clear. The New Testament
basically paints the Romans as just the instrument
kind of just being used by this kind of bloodthirsty Jewish crowd.
And then my monitor is when he speaks of a Saudi Salaam. He's
very proud to take credit for his death. Yeah, he doesn't even
actually mentioned the Romans.
Why did the Gospels mentioned the Romans?
I don't? That's a good question. I don't know.
You know, Pontius Pilate is certainly depicted in the Gospels.
Maybe the, the gospel authors wanted to sort of aggrandized the
Jesus movement, because it wasn't very big apparently.
And sort of depicted as being very popular, something that was very
consequential for its time. But they were very careful not to
indict Roman authorities as being complicit in the death of Jesus.
It was this this bloodthirsty rabble that's calling for his
death. So in the Gospel of Matthew, of course, you know,
Pontius Pilate washes his hands and says, I am, I am innocent of
the blood of this man. He wants to crucify Him, then you you can do
it. Yeah, right. Yeah, this type of thing.
But my monitor says, No, we.
We judged him in the Beit Dean in the Sanhedrin. He was found guilty
of blasphemy, and then we, we killed him. And, and the Talmud
goes in a little bit more into specifics as to how it was
probably done, because the worst types of criminals, they were
stoned to death, and then their bodies were crucified post mortem
to act as a deterrent. That was the worst way to go. So this is
what this is what Jewish sources say happened to Jesus of Nazareth?
But yeah, there's no Roman involvement in, in, in in my
manatees.
And then the whole depiction of Pilate does not sort of match what
we have as far as other historical sources like Philo and Josephus
Pilate was, pilot would not have a an atom's weight of compunction,
SWAT any type of rebellion from any Jew, I mean, he was made a
career of crucifying Jews. But the New Testament is clear. I mean,
Paul, who is a Jew, right? He's writing First Thessalonians. This
is
this is his first official according to almost a consensus of
New Testament scholars. And Paul says in First First Thessalonians
chapter two, verse 14 and 15, that describe them the Jews, they
killed the Lord Jesus, and and their own prophets to persecute
us, in our country. They please not God and are contrary to all
men. Right? And so this verse is notorious as being sort of held up
as this
sort of something emblematic of New Testament anti semitism.
And there's other passages as well. Of course,
this whole idea of, of, I mean, we can get
probably talked about this in the context of Zionism, this idea of
modern dispensationalism, that the Jewish covenant remains open. This
is totally foreign to traditional Christianity. And it's very, very
clear if you read the old, if you read the New Testament, that that
the Jews have been to a certain degree replace, there's a new
covenant. Right? And that covenant is established with Jesus. So
belief in Jesus is without question, you have to believe that
Jesus is the Messiah.
In order to attain salvation, this idea that there's two side by side
covenants, which is again, a position that is held today by
millions of Christian Zionist. And where does this actually come
from? I think we can actually trace this to, to a certain
person, that maybe we can talk about that. But this is totally
foreign to traditional Christianity, it's completely
foreign. So let's talk now before we get into how the Zionists have
gotten on to this, or sorry, the evangelicals have gotten on to the
Zionist wave. Let's tell us more about the Jewish Messiah. He's got
to rule from Jerusalem. He's going to bring all the Jews into the
Holy Land. Yeah, he's going to be the most powerful kingdom in the
world and apply the Torah laws everywhere in the world.
Is there? Are there signs of His coming the way we would have signs
of the end of time? Do they have a similar concept? Okay. When this
happens, this happens is I'm then expect the Messiah.
Yeah, so generally, when
I think most most traditional orthodox would agree with this,
that generally when the Jews engage in what's known as to
tshuva, that tshuva movement, when Jews sort of come back to God,
Tobin's Rocktober, exactly. When they, when they repent to God,
when they're sort of a global, returning to God, then God will
send the Messiah so that the rabbi's say that in every
generation, there's there's a potential Messiah. But God will,
in a sense, sort of assess the devotion of his people, the
children of Israel, and if they're in a good state, if they're moving
towards Toba or to shuba, then God will raise that person as as the
Messiah. But if not, then that person will just simply they'll
die in time we'll move on. So that's in the general sense. Now.
There are other traditional authorities are there, Orthodox
rabbis contemporary rabbis today that have unfortunately, bought
into the Zionist blasphemy, which is not traditional Judaism. But
they tried to incorporate Zionist principles into their
understanding of orthodoxy who say things like, well,
there's nothing wrong with having a Jewish state, it's actually
something that we can find evidence for in the Old Testament.
So they look at these sort of obscure passages in the Tanakh.
When there's so in other words, we can sort of get the ball moving,
we can start a, we can start coming back to the Holy Land, we
can start settling in the land, we can take power, we're gonna start
planting fruits and things like that. And we'll raise up our
civilization. And so this will be sort of the, the beginning of the
redemption as they say. So in other words, when the holy land
becomes more and more Jewish,
at least in its orientation, then this is a sign that the Messiah
will come because we've started the redemption. Again, this whole
idea is completely foreign to traditional Judaism prior to 150
years ago. Prior 250 years ago, every Jew on the planet believed
that exile was divinely decreed that it was actually rebellion
against God, to try to go back to the Holy Land or to any land and
establish some sort of Jewish nation nation. The Jew was to be
diasporic until the coming of the Messiah, the Messiah will start
everything. You don't you don't get the ball moving, and then wait
for the Messiah to come and finish the job. Right. But if we're
talking about most orthodox today, who unfortunately, have degrees of
Zionism,
in sort of, in their in their sort of minds, I guess you can say,
Yeah, you do have this idea that he will be from the seat of David,
the, the throne of David will return that he will inaugurate or
he will continue. He will complete the in gathering of the Jews from
diaspora. They mentioned things like he'll be a she'll fix that
up. He'll be a write a righteous judge. He will
We'll rebuild this is a big one, he will rebuild the beta Mikdash.
Beta will mark this. So he learns to rebuild the temple, the Third
Temple, right. And then when he sort of subdues the entire planet,
you will usher in an era of global peace.
There's differences of opinion about this one, some of the
rabbi's say that the Messiah will be able to raise the dead monitors
doesn't believe that he's sort of a I guess you could say sort of
naturalistic.
Messianic but people like Saudi a guy on Rabbi Saudia guy on says
Messiah can actually raise the dead and things like that. But
nobody believes the Messiah is divine in any way he's a human
being. Another thing that the Messiah will do, according to
traditional authorities is that he will bring forth the auto and
obedience which is the Ark of the Covenant, which most rabbis say
it's buried under the sort of interred under the Temple Mount
somewhere.
I think all these legends about you know, some island on the Nile
River, these are maybe sort of just red herrings or control
distraction or something like that. Almost everyone says it's
under the Temple Mount somewhere.
The other thing that the Messiah will do, which is interesting is
that he will, he will sacrifice the three year old perfect red
heifer, right? The ashes of which must be used to purify the coal,
honey, right, the temple priests. And currently I, the last I
checked, was in October, there are currently five perfect red
heifers. And they have to be perfect. So no, no, you know,
black or white hairs?
No, no, like saddles or yokes or anything I've ever been used on
them. So five of them have been flown into so called Israel from a
ranch in Texas. So I think they're almost two years old now sometime
next year. And all five are still perfect. So this would be the 10th
red heifer in their history, they've had nine and their 2000
year history.
So the 10th one has to be this is according to Leviticus, it's a
must. The ashes of one red hacker can last for hundreds and hundreds
of years. But they have to have these assets in order to purify
not only the sort of the priests, but also the the instruments that
are used in the temple, the water of the temple, things like that.
So if they find this tense one, do they then believe Messiah is right
around the Yeah, so my monitor is he actually says that the 10th one
will be slaughtered by the Messiah. She asked himself, okay,
yeah, unless it himself. I don't think there's a total agreement on
that. But I imagine that most Jewish authorities would say that
the 10th one, okay, before that, it's either a major sign of the
coming of the Messiah or the Messiah himself will slaughter the
10th. Good. Before I ask my next question, you mentioned that exile
would and that many Jews believe that exile is their destiny. Well,
interestingly suited hacer says, well, hola and Kitab Allahu
alayhi. wa Jalla la dama. Home for dunya.
If Allah if it had not been that Allah has destined for them exile,
then he would have punished them in this world. So is where do they
get this concept that exile is destined for them?
Is it something biblical in the Torah? As a consequence, if you do
this, then you'll be exiled forever? Or is it's just the words
of their leaders.
So it comes from the Torah. Okay, so before the the sort of
blasphemy of what's known as religious Jewish Zionism, I mean,
this is for hundreds and hundreds of hundreds of years, almost 3000
years. They believed based on explicit texts in the Hebrew
Bible, that their holy land from that their exile from the Holy
Land was was justified, it was divinely decreed explicit text
from the Bible, explicit that it was given on condition. This is
this is what they say it was given on a condition, obey God or else
the land will reject you, God will thrust you out. This has stated
dozens of times in the Quran. You'll find this in Deuteronomy,
Jeremiah, Isaiah, Ezekiel, four, for example, just pulling up a
verse here at Jeremiah 1613. It says, Therefore I will cast you
out of this land, and into a land that you do not know. In
Deuteronomy You will be root up rooted from the land that you're
entering to possess.
Ezekiel chapter 33, the prophet is equally says, Then the word of the
Lord came to me saying, Son of man, the people living in these
ruins in the land of Israel are saying, Abraham was only one man,
yet he possessed the land, but we are many, surely the land has been
given to us as our possession. Therefore say to them, so God is
telling Ezekiel, this is what the Sovereign Lord says, Since you eat
meat with the blood still in it and look to your idols and shed
blood, shall you then possess the land? This is a rhetorical
question. In other words, because you sinned against God
God, God will cause you to dispossessed the land. And it
continues, you rely on the sword, you do detestable things, and each
of you to files his neighbor's wife, should you then possess the
land? Right? So according to traditional Judaism, no one other
than God by means of the Messiah can initiate a return to the Holy
Land. No one other than God by means of the Messiah can
reestablish a Jewish nation, a Jewish kingdom, a Jewish homeland,
and the Messiah has yet to come for the Jews, they have to wait
for the Messiah, the Jews are under a 2000 year divinely
mandated diaspora. Again, this is what all Jews believed prior to
250 years ago. This is traditional Judaism. Any attempt to
reestablish any land through military means in lieu of the
Messiah was viewed as rebellion against God, even if there's some
uninhabited island the size of a football stadium in the middle of
the Pacific Ocean, the Jews have no right to it whatsoever. Well,
at least according to traditional orthodoxy, I mean, the traditional
orthodox today are called the hermetic Jews or the Fetty Diem,
you know, not these Zionist so called orthodox heritage heretics.
The head a team, they further cite something known as the three
oaths. This is very important to three oats, okay, it's called the
shadow shovel vote. So this is found in the Talmud. But it's
based upon a book in the Tanakh called the Shiite hotsheet him the
Song of Solomon. So the three oath is very, very important.
The the fetid game, the traditional Orthodox, they charge
these, these so called Orthodox, Zionist Jews with breaking these
oats, the three oats, the three oats, yeah, so the first two oats,
they relate to the Jews, and the third one relates to the, to the
Gentiles. So oath number one says, We will not return on mass to the
Holy Land. That's the oath that's that's oath number one, we will
not return on mass to the Holy Land. In other words,
Jews cannot make any attempt to end the exile. Okay. And again,
this includes establishing some temporary Jewish state, or Kingdom
outside of the Holy Land, the Jews must continue to live in exile as
long as God wants. And how do they know when enough is enough? Well,
God sends the Messiah. Right there was a famous rabbi Rabbi du
Schinsky, who was the chief rabbi of a group in Jerusalem called the
a dot, HUD ADT, which means like the house of the temblors, right,
so this was an ultra orthodox
organization, founded in Palestine. So in 1947, Rabbi do
Schinsky he spoke to the United Nations, famously and he said,
quote, We express our definite opposition to a Jewish state in
any part of Palestine, and quote, because he's under an oath from
God, oath number two, we will not rebel against any nation. All
right, so in other words, Jews must be loyal citizens of any host
nation,
even if they are being oppressed. So the traditional Orthodox, they
say that if some oppressive Gentile King is oppressing you,
and humiliated you because you're Jewish, they say thank Hashem,
thank God at that moment, thank God that you are being oppressed,
and you are not the oppressor. Wow. And then oath number three,
the nation's will not oppress the Jews excessively. In other words,
it will never be too much to handle. If you keep those two
oaths.
Yes, it will never Yeah, it will never justify a premature sort of
man led ending of the exile and returning to the Holy Land. In
other words, Nothing justifies ending the exile without the
mushiya. Right. And so there was a famous there was a famous rabbi.
So there's different anti Zionist orthodox groups groups. One is
called matory Carta. One is called the Sati model, right, so this
famous Scotsman Rabbi named pol Teitelbaum.
And so he's one of the founders of these Hasidic dynasties that's
very anti Zionist, and he actually said, this is on record. He said
that the Holocaust was divine punishment for violating the three
oaths. Wow, who's What was his name again? Rabbi yo, l.
Teitelbaum. I heard the name. Yes. Yeah. He's the founder of the
South Lawn Hasidic dynasty.
He's passed away.
So God's punishment upon European. The Holocaust was God's punishment
upon European Jewry for Zionism? Well, that's his opinion, because
violating the three oaths is no joke, you know, according
according to the rabbi.
And here's the here's something interesting to the traditional
Orthodox, anti Zionist. They cite a passage in the Torah to
demonstrate
To the importance of upholding the three oaths in our time, so in the
book of Numbers, right, so Genesis, Exodus, Leviticus number,
the fourth book of the Torah, okay? It's called the Book of
Numbers. So we're told, and this is something that they point out,
we're told that some of the Israelites under Moses, they
wanted to leave the wilderness prematurely, without God's
permission, and enter the holy land. Right? So God decreed 40
years of wandering or exile, but some of the people of Moses wanted
to end that exile immediately in march into the holy land. So
they're actually quoted in numbers. So they say the Hebrew
says, Hey, new, Aileen new Allah Macomb, Asha, Amara Dona? So the
people are quoted, here we are, and we will go up to the place
which the Lord has promised. In other words, the people are saying
some of these people among the people of Moses, they said, We're
not going to wait any longer. We're going to go right now. You
know, this is taking too long. We're going now and then listen to
the response of Moses. It says by your mentor, Moshe Moses said,
Lamaze at Tim Overeem. At piano, he said, Why are you disobeying
the Lord's command.
So he loads its luck, this will never succeed.
Leaving exile early and entering the land and establishing the land
without God's permission, Moses says will never succeed. And then
he says, he says, I do do not go up. Do not make Alia right, as I
lose, do not make. He ain't I don't I be Kilcock him because the
Lord is not with you.
Right and so anti Zionist rabbis to this day, continue to tell
Zionist Jews that this blasphemous project of theirs called Modern
Israel will never succeed. Subhan Allah,
Allah, Allah, as just as the Quran says, exactly, because the Lord is
not with you. In our term, there's no tofield from ALLAH SubhanA wa
ala. And this is why Rabbi do Schinsky is the predecessor, Rabbi
Joseph Hi, I'm Sonnenfeld. Right. He said quote, very famous quote,
Dr. Herzl comes not from the Lord, but from the site of pollution
Subhan Allah.
This is the theology of the famous Nitin natira Chi group. That's one
of the that's one of the groups Yeah, so there's, there's certain
so the Southmont is one Hasidic group that Ventura carta is
another group, there are certain groups, unfortunately, they're
very much becoming the minority now, but 150 years ago, every Jew
on the planet and took this position upheld the three oats so
that they are a diasporic people that any attempt in any attempt to
resettle the land or to resettle any land, even if it's uninhabited
is total rebellion against God.
And these three oats, can you remind me Was there a certain
prophet that took this oath upon them?
So this is mentioned that she had a harsh idiom? So the the Song of
Solomon, this isn't the it's one of the books of the Old Testament.
Yeah. So this is believed by the traditional Jews to be written by
the Prophet Sulaiman Ali Salam.
And then the Talmud is believed by traditional Jews also to have a
degree of Revelation. So the tunnel isn't simply just sort of
exegesis. So in traditional Judaism, there's sort of three
levels of revelation three tiered revelation. So the highest
revelation are the five books of Moses, okay? And so if so,
Genesis, Exodus, Leviticus, Numbers, Deuteronomy, and so the
rabbi's say these five books were revealed to Moses word for word
pennymac pen name is what they use face to face without any any type
of intermediation, word for word, but basically like our concept of
the Quran, IP system, a verb of God, the very words of God. And
then you have the rest of the Hebrew Bible.
Which, so so then you have the books of the prophets. So books
like Isaiah, Jeremiah, Ezekiel, and so here is a lower tear
revelation this is more like the inspired Word of God. Right? So
well words of the prophet the words of the Prophet Yeah, so this
is like a type of El haram or e ha, something like that, where
it's like a hadith klutzy type of thing. How do you put together
exactly yeah, so still still sacred text. And then you have a
third tier which is called the kitto beam or the hagiography
these are books like Psalms, Proverbs First and Second Kings
First and Second Samuel. Song of Solomon. So this book is well,
Song of Solomon. So it's still a sacred text, right? Still a
divinely revealed text in some sense. But then you have the
Talmud,
which has two parts, the Mishnah and Gomorrah. So the Talmud is
also considered a type of Revelation, a non prophetic
revelation
Okay.
So, so in the tunnel mode, these three oaths are fleshed out.
And so this is this is considered to be completely authoritative
among Jews. So, just to summarize that, so it's direct Word of God,
then inspired meanings written by a prophet. Yeah, then directly
written by a prophet.
And then inspired meanings of righteous people, by just people.
Exactly. Okay, so that's the four levels. And each is considered
that it's law.
Yes, this is this is traditional, for 1000s of for 2000 years. This
is this is Judaism. And you said though, that they the now that
Israel has been founded, they found their workarounds to make it
that yes, you can prepare land for the Messiah. Yeah. Okay. Now,
let's get to the Messiah.
Some while back, there was a young 15 year old who was deemed to be a
genius, deemed to have memorized you know, their sacred texts, and
was claimed to be a potential possible Messiah, so many so much
so that elders would be kissing his hands in the streets of
Israel. How did you hear about this?
Yeah. Because that's my my lead in there is that who are the latest
claimants? To be?
Yeah, I heard of him. I don't remember his name.
But yeah, he's, he's considered to be the Nuka. That's what they call
him. Your Nuka is sort of a title. That means like the genius.
I don't know if people are claiming him to be the Messiah.
It doesn't seem like that's likely.
There are no claimants right now. Correct? Yeah, as far as I know,
they're no claimants. So there was in 1994, one of the founders of
the, of one of the Hasidic dynasties, called Habad, passed
away. His name was Rabbi Menachem Mendel Schneerson. So he died as
an old man, he was like 92 years old, or something like that. And
there's, there's various reports different reports that he claimed
to be the Messiah, many of his followers believed he was the
Messiah. Even after his death, some of his followers said that
he's going to be resurrected in any minute, and he's going to
regather, the Jews and so on and so forth. But it is pretty well
known that this rabbi, this Rabbi who's called the redbet, manof,
Menachem Mendel Schneerson. He told Netanyahu in 1984, when
Netanyahu was the UN ambassador to Israel, he told Netanyahu, this is
quite well known that Netanyahu will be leading Israel when the
mushiya arrives. Wow. So yeah, and there's even some, you might even
be able to find this on maybe even YouTube from the early 90s, or
something where he's, he's speaking to Netanyahu. And he's
saying, you know, what have you done to prepare the land for the
Messiah? You need to get moving here, because there's only a few
hours left. That's the other thing is that, that most Jews believe,
traditionally, that the coming of the Messiah must take place before
the year 6000. After creation, right. He has to come in and
accomplish everything before the year 6000. And you find this
basically everywhere. Before the seventh the day because 1000 years
is a day is a day in the sight of the Lord. So it's called the
Sabbath of the Lord. So the year now, by the way, is 5784 after
creation. Okay, so there's only about 200 Some years left. Yeah,
it's called 16 years left. The farm. Yeah, the final hours of the
six day that's how the rabbi's put it. And that's, that's what
Schneerson said to Netanyahu in that in that famous video where he
said, there's only a few hours left, what are you doing to
prepare the land? Right. And so
how long is the action of the Messiah? So for example, is his
life on the Earth in Judaism a 40 year life 100 year life, you know,
because then you can do the math backwards? Yeah. As far as I know,
the,
at the year 6000, we're going to enter into something called the
olam. Haba so the world to come. So the sort of
the, the nature of the world will change somehow in the year 6000.
But as far as, so there's 200 You know, something to under 17 years
left, until we get to the seventh day and that's the beginning of
the olam. Haba. So the Messiah could come at any at any at any
time he has to come and accomplish everything.
Yeah, before the year 6000. But the absolute deadline is a year
6000. So as far as how long he's going to live? I don't know, I
don't know the answer to that. That's like it's his coming is
deemed to be absolutely imminent?
Well, let's get to some.
Where are these ideas hit the road and hit reality groups that
believe in the coming of the Messiah?
We know that in Islam, pretty much all of us want to believe in the
concept of the Monday. Right? At well, not pretty much they must.
And then definitely must believe also that Prophet Isa in Medina,
and we'll come back.
So in Judaism right now,
is it a small group that are messianic? Or would you say that
only 15 million Jews in the world, right? So we can probably much
gauge how much of the Orthodox world our Messiah seekers are
really believing in this and waiting for it? And is there an
anti Messiah movement that saying, Hey, guys, stop all this just live
your life? Yeah, so the majority of Jews are very secular. So at
least in the West, Judaism is divided among three, there's three
divisions kind of tripartite. So you have the basically modern
orthodoxy, which is about 10%,
of Western Jews, and they all believe in the Messiah. And they
believe that the Messiah is an actual person is a personal
Messiah, from the tribe of David, etc. They're only about 10%. And
then something like 35% are considered conservative. And they
have differing ideas of Messiah, many of them believe, yeah, he's
going to be a person, but some of them say no, the Messiah is a
righteous polity of some sort of righteous government, even a
righteous sort of
epoch of time, an era of
a flourishing in the world, something like that. Yeah. And
then you have something 38 39%, something like that reformed Jews.
So here, basically, Judaism is, you know, they're kind of Jewish
by culture. You have many of them reject that the Bible is the Word
of God. It's just sort of historical record. Many of them
but even many of them canceled if they consider them the whole
concept of the Messiah to be sort of
sort of a hassle because it's a bit it seems a bit subversive to
say that here we are living in these countries. But when our when
our man comes, you know, better watch out. Yeah. So that many of
them just completely abandon the whole idea of Messianism. And many
of them are actually atheists, many reformed Jews are atheists.
In fact, in our Masjid here, not too long ago, we had an interfaith
dialogue. And there was a Muslim brother. They were talking about
something,
the ethics of Islam or something like that. And then there's this
female rabbi who went up and said, I'm an atheist. She comes from a
reformed synagogue, so strange. And people thought it was a joke.
They started, they started laughing, just just the beginning
of a Jewish joke or something. They said it was exactly
this, the stand up session, the set was about to start completely
serious. And then you have a whole bunch of Jews that are just you
know, they're ethnically Jewish, but they don't, they're not
religious at all. But among the Orthodox Yeah, the Messiah, I
mean, my monitor is is very clear, my monitor is his 13 principles of
Jewish faith is, is beloved to the Orthodox, the world over. So this
is something that he articulated.
In the 12th century, it's mentioned that as Mishnah, Torah,
something he wrote an actual actually Hebrew, he usually wrote
Judeo Arabic. So he has these 13 principles that he says very
clearly, if you don't believe in any one of these principles, you
are a cofactor, he says, You are a Catholic, have to believe in
these. So number 12, of 13 is the coming of the Messiah, you have to
believe in the Messiah, or else he considers you an apostate. And so
those those descriptions of the Messiah that I gave are primarily
from the commentary of my manatees, who was accepted,
generally buy, buy orthodox the world over. So everyone, if they
identify as Orthodox, they have this idea of a personal Messiah
who's going to come and His coming seems to be very imminent in sort
of the Jewish worldview. So we have the covered the beliefs on
the Messiah, who is the auntie,
who's the antagonist of the Messiah? Do they have an
antichrist a dead Joe? As we would have it?
Not as we would have it. So there's this idea in the Torah of
something called the Comelec. Right? So all Molech also known as
the Amalekites, sometimes just called Comelec. So according to
the Torah, the first group to attack the Israelites to oppose
The Israelites while they were in the wilderness, was this group
called the Amalekites. And the Amalekites. They for some reason,
they just they hate the bunnies, right? They hate the Israelites,
they want to kill them. They want to exterminate them. And so, in
the Bible, you have these in the Hebrew Bible, you have these
commandments coming from God, apparently, to the Israelites to
exterminate the Amalekites. Okay, so for example, First Samuel
chapter 15, King Saul, the first king of Israel was told to, to
exterminate the Amalekites. But Saul, he didn't do the job
correctly. And he spared the MLK King whose name was a gag. And so
a gags would have fled, I guess. I mean, later on, he was killed. But
apparently, the Amalekites survived somehow.
And so,
in the book of Exodus, there's a passage where God is the speaker.
And God says that from generation to generation, me door to door and
Hebrew, from generation to generation, I will make war on
omelette. Right. So, in other words, many rabbis, any orthodox
rabbis take this to mean that in every generation, there is some
group
that embodies the spirit of Comelec? Yep. And must be
exterminated. Right. So if there's, that's probably the
closest thing you'll get an idea of an anti an antichrist, that
there's this, there's going to be this group of people that are
going to always oppose Israel, and, and try to basically destroy
Israel, until until the coming of the Messiah, and then he will
basically take them out. So I understood this to be
literal, that emelec are people that are wicked.
And were supposed to fight the Jews, Jews are supposed to fight
them physically. Right? So I'm talking to a young man, his name
is Rabbi Andrew Meyer. And he always corrects me on this, is it?
No, no, no, no, it's not that it's it's metaphoric. We don't kill the
10 commandments. So you should not murder should not kill. And emelec
is evil in general. Now, I take this as this is some kind of
modernism and metaphor, right, everything is a metaphor. And we
know how we treat those types of people in Islam, right? You really
need to have conditions set in place. No regard regarding the
language of the text, in order to deem something to be a metaphor,
because God and His Prophet speak directly. And there are no tricks
and games in the speech, I would like to ask you is what this young
man is saying, is that a mainstream view? Or is it a
minority view, maybe a sanitizing
interpretation for Westerners? Yeah, I don't think that's I think
it's a bit sanitizing. So modern traditional Jews tend to interpret
these commandments gets Comelec on Gini illogical grounds. So in
other words, any and all descendants of all Molech must be
killed, irrespective of their culture. This is why when it comes
to the seven nations, we can say the Canaanites broadly speaking,
there is conversion the seven nations that are in, you know,
from the river to the sea, they can actually convert to, to become
a Ben Noah. So in other words, the seventh they can adopt the seven
Noahide laws, or they can actually convert to Judaism. But there's
differences of opinion about the conversion of an MLK, right.
There's a difference of opinion as to whether he should be allowed to
convert or not, if not that he should be killed. However, many
would argue that it's just simply impossible to identify who isn't a
Melkite so in other words, in other words, this compat this
commandment simply cannot be fulfilled. Right?
It's just impossible to tell who's in the Melkite. My oddities he he
limits the application of this mitzvah to destroy all Molech to a
Jewish king. He says only an anointed Jewish king to carry out
this mitzvah, as a Mitzvah is there it's not it's not mensual
the Jews don't believe in monsoon, they don't believe in us. So this
commandment is they were sort of just suspended, but we need an
anointed Jewish king and it seems like he's talking about the
Messiah. And other authorities say that it will apply once again when
the Messiah comes and he's taken control of, of the Covenant land
Eretz Israel.
So, so then, so yeah, the commandment is there. Now, there
is this idea also that, like I said,
You know, scripture has different levels of meaning. So
the commandment to destroy all Molech is not abrogated, it's
still valid. But we don't know who am Allah like is.
But there's also this idea that there's a there is a spiritual
interpretation of the text. So even like the Orthodox will say
that, you know, one must strive to remove or to kill or destroy the
Comelec within, right, these sorts of impulses that we have, that
want us to rebel against God and this type of thing. But that's not
all it means. And no traditional authority would say, that's all it
means. It's just the internal Comelec. And it's all this kind of
botany stuff. And yeah, no, no, the the commandment is literal,
but it's suspended right? Now design is they actually teach that
No, Comelec does not refer to any specific race, but a mentality, a
mindset that will continue perpetually. So the Romans were on
Molech and the Nazis were on Molech. And, you know, II Ron was
on Molech. And now they're saying, obviously, you know what Bibi
said? Yeah, this guy, that to the Palestinians, you know, these are
there on the left, we have a duty remember what Amalek has done to
you remember our proud history of Joshua, the son of noon, and what
he did, and we know what he did when he went into Canaan and
slaughtered, you know, at least according to the book of Joshua,
slaughtered the indigenous people of Palestine men, women and
children indiscriminately.
So that's that's how these sort of Zinus interpret these verses about
Alma lek, Benzie Lieberman in 2004. He's the director, the
former director of Israel land authority, he said, quote, The
Palestinians are almost like we will destroy them.
Let's now turn to
evangelicals,
evangelicals or
have have have become the biggest Zionists. Yeah, in reality, there
were evangelicals in the time of the Balfour Declaration. And there
are evangelicals, of course today that are pushing this in Congress
and making sure that
this is going through and that the aid money is sent and all that and
working with the lobbying to make sure that Israel is established.
Their theology is so diametrically opposed to Jewish theology.
who swindled the Venge follicles into believing that this is good
for them? When clearly it is? It's not?
Yeah. Yeah. So this is, this is a big mystery. Right. But yeah, I
think we can sort of trace it down to, to a few candidates here. But
again, just to reiterate, that traditionally, Christians believed
that, that Christians are now the chosen people, right, that the
Jews are no longer the chosen people, for Christians to support.
The building of a Third Temple is is absolutely blasphemous, because
in the New Testament, Jesus is clearly described as being the new
temple,
the final temple.
In Romans six and Hebrews 10. Paul says that Jesus was the be all end
all sacrifices, the ultimate temple. He's the ultimate high
priests ultimate sacrifice. And he had Christian Zionist they fully
support the Third Temple where sin sacrifices will apparently return
one day, according to Jewish Messianism. So Christian Zionism
is it's just indefensible from a biblical perspective.
So what actually happened here? How did Zionism become so popular
among American Protestants? Well, in 1831, there was this Anglican
preacher named John Nelson Darby, okay. And so he was one of the
primary organizers of a non denominational Christian movement
called the Plymouth Brethren.
The Plymouth Brethren. So So you know, this is what happens when
church tradition is ignored. So Darby is considered to be the
father of something called Modern dispensationalism. Okay, so what
is what is modern dispensationalism? So this is
basically it's this notion that there will be a future restoration
of the earthly nation of Israel. Okay. But this also includes this
idea that the Mosaic Covenant
and the Christic covenant are two valid coexisting covenants.
They're both valid. Okay.
This is also known as Dual Covenant Theology. In other words,
Christians do not need to convert Jews. The Jews already have a
valid covenant do
Jews are still chosen by God irrespective of their belief in
Jesus. Okay? So if we just think about the theological implications
of this for Christianity, I mean, this implies that Christ only came
from the Gentiles, not the Jews. That's the implication that it
actually directly contradicts the New Testament Jesus, you know,
when he was not sent but unto the lost sheep of the house of Israel,
right? So you know, instead of, you know, For God so loved the
world, he should have said, for God's will love the Gentiles, and
he gave his only begotten Son because the Jews don't need him.
At least not yet. So So according to Darby, let's get into his
eschatology then
say sacred history is divided into seven dispensations. What what are
the seven dispensations? These are sort of seven periods of time,
that demonstrate how God deals with humanity. Okay, so he calls
the first one innocence. So this is like Adam and Eve before the
fall. And then the second dispensation. He calls conscience
conscience. So there's Adam and Eve after the fall, Cain and Abel,
Noah, and then the third one he called civil government. So this
is the aftermath of the flood. And then the fourth one, he calls
promise, this is the patriarchal period from Genesis six to like
Exodus 19. Then the fifth one is called the law of Moses. Okay, so
the covenant code, the CNNIC covenant, the sixth one he calls
grace. This is the covenant of Christ, also known as the church
age, in this goes until the rapture, and I'll talk about that.
And then the final one, the final dispensation is called the
kingdom. So five, six and seven are the most important, the law of
Moses, and then the church age, and then the kingdom. And the
kingdom, the seventh dispensation is also called the millennium. The
Millennium Okay, so this is when Christ will rule from Jerusalem
after his what's known as the pyro CEO, or the Second Coming this is
described in Revelation chapter 20.
Now, what is this last dispensation again, what is this
kingdom, the kingdom, also known as the millennium is the one
thought the literal 1000 year future reign of Christ from
Jerusalem, that Christ will rule the reconstituted, physical,
ethnic Jewish state of Israel, so national Israel will be restored
according to Darby. According to Darby, the Old Testament
prophesizes, not so much the church age, but really the
kingdom, the millennium, where Christ rules the National Jewish
state of Israel. Just to take you through the sequence of events
here, and then we'll talk about how Derby's dispensationalism
became so popular. So first we have the rapture, right the
rapture This is based on a text First Thessalonians chapter four,
we're Christians are sort of taken off the planet is sort of
our raptured into the sky as it were. So according to Darby the
church is removed from the earth, the Christians are taken up, you
know, so if you're Christian, you don't want to be left behind.
Right Of course, there's a famous book series called left behind
based on this based on this doctrine.
And then there's going to be a horrible seven year period known
as the tribulation. Okay, so this is apparently described in Matthew
in Revelation, this is a time of massive widespread evil upon the
earth. during the tribulation, the Antichrist emerges, who will sit
in the temple, the Third Temple, this is what Paul says he will
declare himself God while sitting in the temple.
Now, this is unique in Darby such that Christians will be gone
before the tribulation, okay. They will be raptured before the
tribulation. So this is called pre trib eschatology, pre tribulation
eschatology that the rapture is pre trib. So there's there's pre
trib, then there's mid trib. Then there's post trib eschatology.
Okay, in other words, the rapture is either before in the middle of
or after the tribulation. So for for Darby Christians will, will
experience none of the evils of the Tribulation, they're going to
be raptured. Then you have the second coming, the piracy, the
second coming of Jesus, then you have the kingdom also known as the
millennium, this is going to manifest. So the second coming for
Darby and dispensationalism is pre millennial. This In other words,
the Second Coming is prior to the kingdom. There was actually an
opinion among Protestants that the Second Coming was postmillennial
that the kingdom would manifest by God's grace, before the second
coming of Jesus, which which meant that basically the whole world was
about to repent and accept Christ become Christian. And then when he
comes, they're going to welcome him with open arms. So this was
very popular up until the 20th century. And then World War One
World War Two
And now almost nobody takes that position
for most Christians, okay, the kingdom is already here. So here
I'm talking about like, basically Catholic Christians. Okay. So for
Catholics, the kingdom is already here, the kingdom of God and the
church age are essentially synonymous. Alright, so So Christ
is ruling over it right now. Right? So Catholics, they take
this language of Millennium to be symbolic. It's not a literal 1000
year reign. It's a spiritual reality. We are living it right
now. Now the Book of Revelation, it states however, that Satan will
be bound during the Millennium. So how is Satan bound right now?
Well, Catholics explain that Satan is bound in the sense that he
cannot prevent people from receiving the gospel. So this this
position is called a millennium millennialism a millennialism.
Again, this is essentially the Catholic position. So there's no
rapture in the Protestant sense. So then when Christ comes back,
according to Catholics, he won't rule for 1000 years, he'll come
and judge humanity, they'll judge the nations immediately. And then
the righteous will be taken body and soul into heaven. We can call
that a rapture if you want. And then the evil ones, including
Satan and his demons will go to *, or what the book of
Revelation calls a lake of fire. Okay, but let's get back to Darby.
So Darby advanced a pre trib, pre mille dispensational eschatology.
So let me just break that down again. What does that mean? The
Rapture will occur before the tribulation, no Christians will
experience the Tribulation. And the second coming of Jesus will
occur before the millennium, the literal 1000 year kingdom reign
before that, before that, yeah. And then Darby was also a Dual
Covenant dispensationalist. So what does that mean? Again, this
means that the Mosaic Covenant and the Christic covenant are two
valid coexisting covenants, they're both valid. So when Jesus
returns to rule over national Israel, all of Israel will
eventually believe in him. Right, and there's going to be a reversal
he came the first time they almost all rejected him. When he comes a
second time they will all believe him. Now, now Darby was famous for
saying that the Bible must be rightly divided. This is a very
famous phrase from Darby. He actually takes it from the letters
of Paul, but Paul uses it in a different way.
The Bible must be rightly divided. What he meant was, that much of
the New Testament does not actually apply to Christians, but
only to Jews. That Jesus primarily in the synoptic gospels, Matthew,
Mark, and Luke. He's actually teaching the Mosaic Covenant.
Okay, but in John's gospel, as well as through Paul's writings,
Jesus was advancing the Christian covenant. So there's almost like
two gospels. So according according to Darby, Jesus was
teaching both dispensations. Okay, both both covenants are valid side
by side. Now Darby is dispensationalism eventually found
its way across the pond to America. So Pastor James Hall
Brooks, he kind of just fell in love with the Darby with his
teachings, right, don't get the wrong idea. And then Brooks, he
was in St. Louis. And there was an annual Bible conference called the
Niagara Bible conference, and Brooks was often the keynote
speaker. So it was at this conference when Darby and
dispensationalism became more and more popular via James Brooks and
Brooks had a preacher friend named Dwight moody, and moody but later
established the famous Moody Bible Institute in Chicago or Bible is
their middle name, as Bart Ehrman always says. And then moody also
became a Darby and dispensationalist. And then moody
befriended a man named Cyrus Ingvarsson, Schofield. Okay. Now,
Scofield was a morally questionable lawyer and
politician. He was accused of multiple charges of theft,
bribery, forgery. He was a deadbeat husband and father, a
self described alcoholic turned Christian minister, so he became
an ordained pastor in Dallas in 1883. Schofield in 1888, he wrote
a treatise called rightly dividing the word of truth, rightly
dividing the word of truth. So he started calling himself CI
Scofield di D. That is Doctor of Divinity although there's no
record of him ever graduating from seminary, so it seemed like he
gave himself kind of an honorary doctorate. Kind of like what
Dartmouth College did for Dr. Seuss. On a very dark doctorate
Dr. Seuss wasn't a real doctor CI Scofield was not a real doctor. In
1909, Scofield wrote his Scofield Study Bible. This was published by
ox
furred. So this Bible, the Scofield Study Bible had a
massive, massive impact on American Protestants and
evangelicals. It is no exaggeration that this Bible
turned millions of American Protestants into Christian
Zionist. I mean, it changed a generation of preachers. His his
Bible translation is essentially the King James translation. But he
added all of these strange notes in his commentary. So in his
commentary of Genesis 12, three, okay, so this is the most infamous
one. Okay, so this is God's promised to Abraham. Okay, so
schofields commentary, it changed the game. So basically, God says
to Abraham, I will bless those who bless you and curse those who
curse you. So here's what Scofield wrote. Right, he said, and curse
those who curse you wonderfully fulfilled in the history of the
dispersion. It has invariably fared ill with the people who have
persecuted the Jew. Well with those who have protected him, the
future will still more remarkably prove this principle. Right. So,
so So basically, Scofield is applying this verse to ethnic
Jews, contemporary ethnic Jews, that this that the Jews are still
chosen, that anyone who curses Jews have will be cursed by God.
And so after Scofield, it became ubiquitous among Protestants, that
Christians owe unconditional, unquestionable loyalty to the
Jewish people, because they never cease to be chosen. Okay, this is
schofields commenter. And so this doggish Christian loyalty, this
this pathetic, almost slavish, Christian loyalty to ethnic Jews
extends to the modern, murderous state of Israel, because
eventually Jesus will rule Israel. That's Jesus's future kingdom.
Right. But as we said, in light of the New Testament, this is a grave
misleading misreading of Genesis chapter 12. Because Paul actually
quotes he actually and Paul has a commentary on Genesis chapter 12.
And Paul says, that when it says Abraham and his seed, his seed is
only Jesus, not the Israelites. Paul says in Galatians chapter
three, he says, if if you belong to Christ, then you are the seed
of Abraham. This is a conditional statement in Galatians, three, in
other words, you have to believe in Jesus or else you're no longer
chosen. Right? So according to the New Testament,
the churches, the new Israel, the church is a new Zion, right, which
does and can include some ethnic Jews as well. But But belief in
Jesus without is without question, you have to believe in Jesus,
according to the New Testament, okay, The Last Supper.
at the Last Supper, this is this is when the pronouncement and
initiation of the New Covenant covenant occurred. This was on
Mount Zion on Holy Thursday, and then the descent of the Holy
Spirit on the day of Pentecost occurred in the same upper room 50
days later on Mount Zion. So both the establishment of the New
Covenant as well as the proclamation of the New Covenant
happened on Mount Zion in Jerusalem. So you see what the
authors of the New Testament are saying, the Christian Church is
the new Zion. When Thomas Aquinas wrote his hymns praising Zion,
there's a bunch of hymns that Aquinas wrote was praising Zion.
He's praising the Christian church, not not some future
secular Jewish ethno state. So how did Schofield actually do it? So
in 2005, Joseph Canfield, he wrote a biography about Schofield. It's
called the incredible Scofield and his Bible. So according to
Canfield in 1901, Schofield joined in an exclusive males only secret
society, called the Lotus club, and can feel to jest that someone
highly influential within the club. He thinks it was another
lawyer named Samuel Anta Meyer, basically promoted and financed
schofields Bible project. In other words, Scofield had powerful
American Zionists bankrolling his project. Schofield was the
textbook definition of what's known as a useful idiot. Someone
who is used by powerful people to do their bidding, without really
understanding the consequences of his of his actions. So in 1948,
when Israel became a state, Darby and dispensationalism, through
Schofield exploded even more in popularity among Western
Protestant so Israel has been restored. You see, just as Darby
says. So this further vindicated dispensationalism and so the
Christian Zionist it
They were saying, you know, we better be nice to Israel, or else
God will curse us. According to Genesis, you know, 12 three, we
better we better be nice to Israel because it is Jesus's future
kingdom. Now one of schofields students was named Luis Schaeffer.
He died in 1952
and Schaefer founded the Dallas Theological Seminary in 1924. So
he was actually the president of Dallas Theological Seminary until
1952, a famous alumnus of DTS is a man named Hal Lindsey, and he's
still alive. In 1973. Lindsay wrote this book that took the
world by storm. It had the power of 30, Harry Potter's, it was
called the Late Great Planet Earth. Okay, millions upon
millions of copies were sold. I mean, it seemed like everyone in
America was reading this book about end times prophecies in the
Bible, through a lens of Darby and dispensationalism. It was even
made into a film was narrated by Orson Welles. So how Lindsay, by
the way, he said in 1979, that Jesus would be turned in 1988.
Because there's a verse in Matthew 24, for Jesus, at least Matthias,
Jesus says, This generation shall not pass away until all these
things are fulfilled, the present generation will live to see it
all. So apparently, Jesus was speaking about this restored
kingdom. So one generation is 40 years right. 1948 the restoration
of national Israel also known as the NACA plus 4019 88, right, so
that never happened.
In 1984, Oxford put out the new Scofield Study Bible, okay. And
they added this clarifying comment for a nation to commit the sin of
anti semitism brings inevitable judgment.
For a nation to commit the sin of anti semitism brings inevitable
judgments, agita, you know the new, you know, the New Testament
Jesus. He said that the that the the only unforgivable sin was
blasphemy against the Holy Spirit. Now, in today's you know, it's
like guys, we're constantly told that any critique of Zionism is
anti semitic. So anti anti Zionism is a form of anti semitism. This
is what we're told. So then, so then Christians who read that note
from Scofield must only conclude that anti Zionism is the
unforgivable sin in the sight of God for a nation to commit the sin
of anti semitism. A form of witches anti Zionism brings
inevitable judgment. Right. And there's a bunch of things that he
says for example, Scofield, in his commentary of Hosea, chapter one,
verse 10, this is what he said. He said, the expression my people on
me in Hebrew is used in the Old Testament exclusively of Israel.
Nation. He's just wrong here. He's demonstrably wrong. Isaiah 1925,
it says, bow to me Mitzrayim bless it be Egypt, my people. He's just
wrong in his commentary of Genesis that schofields wrote, quote, the
Palestinian covenant gives the conditions under which Israel he's
talking about physical Israel entered the promised land, it is
important to see that the nation has never as yet taken the land
under the unconditional Abrahamic covenant, nor has it ever
possessed the whole land. This is just wrong. If you read Joshua
2143. This is what it says. So the Lord gave Israel all the land call
her edits, it says in Hebrew, all the land, he had sworn to their
ancestors, and they took possession of it and settled
there. So Scofield wants us to think that this is still an
outstanding promise that God has not yet fulfilled his side of the
deal.
Right? It's really amazing. And then he says, To dispositions and
restorations have been accomplished, Israel is now in the
third dispersion, from which she will be restored after the turn of
the Lord as king. So I think Christians need to ask themselves,
they need to ask themselves a very important question. Who are you
going to believe who do you follow Scofield or scripture? Yeah.
Darby writes this, it seems it has one beneficiary, which is designed
as Jews. So who's behind Darby? There's no he's not been
Christians are not benefiting anything from this. There must be
something behind Darby. What motivated him to do this? I don't
know. Maybe she can. I mean, that's a good question. You know,
it's the the is one of my teacher said, you know, the the isnaad of
every bad idea. Yeah. You take take it back far enough to go to
but is there are there Zionist thinkers at the time, Zionism
Christian Zionism actually predates Jewish Zionism. So the
Christian Zionism
She goes back to like, the 16th century or something. Yeah. But
what is the exact motivation of Darby? I don't, I don't know.
Because when was he writing in relative to hartsel?
So he's Yeah, so he's 18. He's before hartsel. He's, he's 1831 is
when the is when the brother in the Plymouth Brethren were
founded. So this idea that Zionism came around and the beginnings of
what we now call the Israel lobby is developing then influences the
angelic goals of Angelica world. That's actually not correct.
Because Dharma predates Yeah, maybe, you know, yeah, in
Scofield, he wrote his, his famous treatise in 1888. You know, sort
of, well, where scientists Condon conference was in 1897. Yeah, this
is well before that, and even at 97 for the next few years, that's
laughed at. Right? And so it's very strange. What would make them
so was it was it an issue that they don't like the idea of people
go into *, and they live Christians and Jews. So let's find
a way like almost like a perennial list relativist type of thing,
where nobody really goes to *, and everything's good. Yeah. I
mean, I've thought about that. It's there's a lot of similarities
with with with Darby and dispensationalism, and kind of the
perennial philosophy, right, that these covenants remain open and,
you know, things like maybe that was a motivation, maybe it sort of
was intended to be
something that the feel good type of thing. Exactly. And then they
just just, you know, that's the thing, it just blew up, and people
don't think about the consequences of, of what they say or what they
do. I could see that no Zionist loving this idea. Let's fund this
book. And let's make sure it spreads far and wide. Right, but
sort of laughing at it simultaneously, because they're n
times like, results when they finally get to the meeting point.
They got totally opposite beliefs. Right? Yeah. I mean, the Book of
Revelations says that Revelation Chapter Two that only 144,000
Israelites will go to heaven anyway. Yeah. So 12,000 from the
Christians from the from each tribe shadier.
So we talked about these things. Now, the Christians, though, do
have an antichrist?
The Christians, yes. And the question is, what are what are the
signs of the Christian antichrist, have come upon many evangelicals
that say, the Islamic Messiah, even they now know about the
Monday will be is the Christian antichrist? So in this sense,
Islamic and Christian and times, they sort of do meet up in
opposites in a sense, from the Christian worldview. It does meet
up. Yeah, so the Antichrist. So the term antichrist is used a
couple of times in the New Testament. So Paul uses it. Sorry,
the the author of The First Epistle of John, he's called the
elder who uses it in chapter two, verse 22. And he says something
very interesting. He says, whoever does not believe Jesus is the
Christ is an antichrist. Right? Which is very interesting, because
there'd be no like, million integrators. Yeah, exactly. And I
mean, Muslims and Christians believe that Jesus Christ, at
least in some sense, but the Jews don't believe. So it seems like
this language is sort of anti Jewish polemic here. But Paul also
mentions the Antichrist in First Thessalonians. Right. And that he
he says something just very brief, he says that the Antichrist will
sit in the temple, okay, and declare himself to be God. So,
Christian scholars have somehow worked out that halfway through
the Tribulation, three and a half years into the tribulation, the
Antichrist who made some sort of peace treaty or something with
with Israel will actually disobey Israel, and then seize the temple,
and then start oppressing the people of God.
But as far as details
that's all it really says. And then there's a lot of speculation
from early church fathers and things like that. But but you're
right it and I just wanted to mention as well a very, very
common deception actually, that's used by Christian apologist is to
say that the Muslim Messiah is the malady Yeah. Right. So they use
that term Messiah.
That's what they call him the Muslim Messiah. So obviously the
melody.
I mean, it's totally wrong. The melody is the guided one from the
actual date of the Prophet Muhammad Soleimani. So it'd be a
leader of Muslims but he's, he's not the Messiah. So I always
correct Christians and I think they're doing this I don't know it
seems like they should know better. I want to have a good
opinion of people but you know, people are very sheltered from the
from the ins. The Quran tells us explicitly many, many
Times that the Messiah is a certain medium. Yeah, right. So
that's that's something that I think
we should stress in interfaith dialogue is that we have something
in common and that of obviously the concept of Messianism is a bit
different. But the Messiah according to the Quran, which is
our primary source, is, the Messiah is Jesus, the son of
marriage, Jesus of Nazareth, the same Jesus peace be upon him who
lived 2000 years ago in in Galilee.
So that's an important, I think, distinction to make between the
malady and the Messiah.
And because I think people are just being misled by these
preachers that have these sort of anti Muslim polemical bends to
them or something. It's funny that I was watching one of angelical.
And, you know, they, they, they raise themselves up to be
ministers very quick, as soon as they repent.
They become ministers. And there's no training in between. And they
were completely confused by the concept. So they liked the idea
that the Muslim Magdi, as they call it is the Antichrist, then
they have a big problem with the idea that we then believe that
Jesus is going to come back. And I don't know how to put two and two
together with that. But
so I think we covered everything that we wanted to cover this the I
think, for a lot of people that Darby predating Hertzel.
It's something new to a lot of people because, you know, the
usual talk is that the is the the Jews cooked up this stuff
into the Protestant Bible, which is clearly not the case. This was
a Christian. Yeah, like you said, Edmund Allenby, David Lloyd
George, these are, you know, maybe it's just, you know, Zionism is
something that it was in their strategic interest, because they
had these colonies in the Muslim majority world. And yeah, you
know, it is trying to make some allies amongst the Jews and who
knows it's it's a, it's a deep rabbit hole. Is are the
Rothschilds involved in the Scofield Bible at all? Is this
conspiracy theory? Are they truly involved in tightening it? I
haven't heard anything like that. I haven't heard No, I don't know.
Last question. Did you read the book forcing God's hands and those
are in way back?
I've heard of it. I haven't read it, though. It's essentially the,
the it's it's Christian Zionism, essentially. And the policies that
it produces, essentially, for the sake of bringing back Christ.
Yeah. I mean, we have these Christian Zionist leaders and
preachers on television, with millions of followers, stoking
hatred for Muslims, offering these like half witted, ridiculous,
futuristic interpretations of Biblical verses, where they're
like, you know, this is, you know, Babylon the great and the mother
of harlots, Saddam Hussein and Iraq, all for the glory of I mean,
it's war, Hawking. Yeah, more Hawking for Israel by means of bad
theology. Yeah, Christian Zionism is a murderous ideology. There's
there is a book I recommend by Dr. Stephen sizer, he's a Christian is
non Zionist. It's called Christian Zionism, a roadmap to Armageddon.
And this is exactly what it is. This is a roadmap to Armageddon.
It's it's pretty, it's pretty crazy.
So, yeah, but you're exactly right. I mean, Christian Zionism
predates
any type of Jewish sign has at least before became very popular
within within Judaism.
Jeep.
Well, I thank you for your time. We kept you a little over an hour,
but just like a little kid, and thank you so much. Thanks for
having me. And hopefully we'll see where where all this goes. And
perhaps have you back for
the continuation as we see were the things on the grounds.
Go with this whole situation and because, but again, just
echolocate, and thank you again, Dr. Alia, ties in California. He
is a professor at zaytuna College. He teaches comparative religion
there. And he teaches He's been teaching there for quite a while
and he's one of the really the OGS of the of the toolable element in
the Dawa at the time so thank you so much for coming on. Just
thank you so much right along with UC Berkeley.
All right, brothers, sisters, there you have it. Really, really
useful and important information for all of us to have on the
situation in the world today. We're not dealing with merely a
situation of people with dealing with financial issues, political,
you know, geopolitics and economics. We do have people who
have people with
really endtime beliefs, and that's what's going on and that's what
they're doing when when Netanyahu evokes the emelec you know what
that means? No, I
When the Christian Zionists, when you drive on Texas, from Houston
all the way to Dallas, it's all mega churches with massive Zionist
flags bigger than the American flag.
You now know the source. Okay? They have an original sources, it
wasn't simply, you know, Jewish scheming against the Protestants
that you know made them go this direction they have their own
reasons to believe this and their own people. Now who was behind
Darby, maybe we'll never know. But then again, there you have a
religion Subhanallah where one guy cooks up an idea.
And it is now the religion of millions, this would never happen
in Islam. Like one guy cooking up an idea that's completely
antithetical to the book and the Sunnah. You're not gonna get away
with this for too long. And if you do, it will be a minority. But
this is now the majority of Protestantism. And Protestants
are all about bringing back Zion bringing back the land of Israel
for Christ. Yet we found that in Orthodox Judaism, if you didn't
watch if you didn't see this Orthodox Judaism, this is
completely sinful.
Upon every righteous Jew is three oath says Dr. Adi brought forth
what they essentially entail, we have, we accept our exile, we will
be good citizens wherever we live, and we will do nothing. We will
not take a single action to bring back
the Holy Land. Okay, we will do nothing. So, very interesting,
very informative stuff, and I'm happy we brought something that
wasn't that really is a continuation you should watch the
blog and theology of radical Judaism episode and then watch
this is a continuation of it and you'll learn a lot that you didn't
see there. Okay, so Alright, let's let's open up for some q&a. We got
maybe a few minutes to do some
question and answer. All right. Was there someone out the door or
something?
Oh, you just got us food, masha Allah lo Akbar.
Just getting us fit well, well, what kind of food isn't as a
question. Peri, Peri chicken today, whoa,
well, probably less calories than pizza
we got to look into anti Zionist or non Zionist evangelicals and
non Zionist Jews, we need to get them on. And I would like to have
a debate to be honest with you with an Orthodox Jew and Rabbi
Andrew Meyer. Because you know, like, it's very difficult.
It's very difficult in any text, any actual interpretation, to just
render things metaphor. It causes more problems for you than it
solves. Good now, this young Rabbi Andrew Meyer, you seems like a
nice guy. Right? But he does have this interpretation that, that a
lot of this stuff is metaphoric.
We know those this group in Islam, right, we just dealt with them,
right last spring, Omar, you went with us, right? Oh, you missed it.
When we went to LA and everything is a metaphor and blah, blah,
blah, that causes more problems than good. And you're gonna find
more inconsistencies with that. When you go the route of
everything's just a metaphor. Okay. So I'm of the belief and the
opinion that the emelec and the verses on Deuteronomy are actual
commandments. Okay, they're actual commandments. Now, my monitor is
he got around he said, yes, they're commandments, but they can
only be established by a king. Well, we have a king right now.
Israel has a kink. Right as your as a leader.
Okay, could it be that the Messiah they're waiting for is that that
just our concept of the digit you find in our books is the Messiah
of the hood. That's where they line up.
The ante the jug for of Islam.
And the Messiah of the hood is one in the same.
There they will follow the digit
and only few of them individuals a fraud, individuals
will accept Islam. Christianity is the opposite. We're Eman al Kitab
Illa, Allah Umina, Nabil Kubla moto.
There will be very few of the people of the book here meaning
Christians, except that they will believe in me Jesus before his
death is another sign that Jesus hasn't died yet. Because we don't
see
people in the book believing him like why they don't need to
believe in Him. Right they only have a false belief about him. So
we don't see the majority of people in the book believing in
him properly. Layup mean, and maybe he meaning they will believe
in him correctly. They believe in him.
incorrectly, Allah would not call a false belief. Amen. Right. So
our concept at the end of time is that there will be an antichrist.
He comes after Imam and Mandy Mandy is a regular man. But of
course he's guided. And he's special in regular men. I mean,
he's not a prophet,
and a unifies the Muslims.
He doesn't unify them
just with words. There are wars, civil wars within Islam.
His first war is in hijas. His second page has been the Arabian
Peninsula. So he unifies it. Under his leadership. He's resisted,
he's fought by the people of hijas. The second battle he wages
is Syria,
then Iraq, Persia after that, he's going up all of this, who was his
one supporter that he doesn't have to fight and they join him?
horison
Afghanistan, okay. Hooda san is an area of land, the bulk of his in
Afghanistan and part of his Imperva. So we could say, in our
world that we know today that area of Afghanistan, he they won't he
won't have to talk to them, they will come to him, he won't have to
fight them, they will come to him
and support him. Then he goes up to Constantinople,
Constantinople, of course being a stumble.
And when they hear the tech via
when they hear him, the tech beat of that army, they will submit so
there will not be a fight there. They will be ready to fight each
other but they won't be a fight.
They will submit him so imagine the magnitude of this OMA, now,
the Egyptians say we are Tobias Shem. The Egyptian say that what
whatever Shem has mentioned in the end of time, Egypt is Tabata that
follow us to that because there's a connection between Shem and
Egypt, which sign up and
so the Egyptians because Egyptians have to, oh, we cannot be
involved. We have to be part of this right? Guys, and Allah knows
best. But that is a massive, massive, massive entity. So
massive, what do they decide to do? They go to a room to start
going into Europe, the lands of a room and in specific Rome, in
specific in the Vatican and specific why because they say
these shoveling gold with their shields shoveling gold, which is
interesting, because they say they have shields could be shields
doesn't necessarily mean shields against arrows, and swords. It
could be shields of other sorts, who knows what the world is going
to bring us. But this is the the typical end time narrative that
you're going to hear from the sound sources of Islam.
While the Muslim that army of the malady is in rural in a room below
the room,
they're going to be called back. Why? Because they hear that the
judge has come. Now notice
when they leave,
right, when they hear about the job, they go back east, the dad is
coming from the east to jet is not coming from the west, we may view
the West as a source of prophecy and comfort and all these
problems. But that's a Jad comes from the east, the greater dangers
in the east. So they go back to their homeland, to to their wives
and children, who they have left to go to war.
And they seek to protect them. So much. So is the gel attractive to
people that that are most of them will have to lock his door from
his mother, his mother and his wife, his mother and his mother in
law and his daughter's being tempted to go and look at the
digit because they hear so many wonderful things about him. It's
like the whole world
loves him so much. And he's tugging at the heartstrings of the
of people that have a man a man will have to lock his door and
stand by the door and make sure the women of the house don't go
because they're so tempted just to look, the judge is so attractive
and tempting that one glance at him one examination of him will
trick you
but except those whom Allah guides, so the soldiers and the
army of the MADI and the people of the Muslims at that time will stop
expanding and stop fighting they will just be busy guarding their
own family from the digit
that digit then will gather a great army
and will the army of the Maddy that is out fighting.
All right, we'll be jammed in Jerusalem and they will be
neutralized every person, every prophet, even prophets, they have
what Allah has permitted them to defeat and what Allah has not
permitted them to defeat
the the great Imam Al man
He is given the permission, the divine Tofik the permission from
Allah to unify the Ummah, but he's not given permission to defeat the
digit. So the Muslims will be hunkered down almost besieged by
the army, that digit which is now taking over the world. So this
great rise of Muslim unity of Muslim lands, will now give way
that almost as if you could say the next chapter is the rise of
the Antichrist in the digit.
And he puts an end to this rise, and he brings his own form of
*. And he travels listed this hadith if you don't believe
in the Prophet after this hadith, you're just being stubborn. The
Prophet peace be upon him said the Antichrist, the dead, Jed will
travel the world,
on a beast,
with eyes all along its side
that can jump through the clouds.
So what beasts is there in the world that jumps through the
clouds and has eyes all along its side?
Other than an airplane, right? I mean, how crystal clear is it
profitably? So as I said, the the width of this beast is the width
of 40 mules. Like what is the difference? The length between the
ears of a mule like what this much right, the width of 40 and down
inside our eyes, and it leaves in the cloud, if you don't believe in
the Prophet Muhammad Sallallahu Alaihe salam after this, you must
simply be
you just being stubborn. Okay.
Even in the year 1800, nobody could have predicted plans coming
around, let alone the year 600 of the Common Era, when the Prophet
sallallahu Sallam lifts six
570 to 632 is in the common era when the prophets of Allah when he
was seven lift, okay.
So the messenger sallallahu alayhi wa sallam tells us that now that
the jazz kingdom and evil Kingdom will rise, okay. And the Muslims
will be neutralized until when this will not last forever. Okay?
It will only be a short period of time, in that it will be a short
period of time one or two years, how do they say one or two years
because the Prophet peace be upon him said he will expand his
kingdom in 40 days, one day, like a year, one day, like a month, one
day, like a week and the rest of the days like the rest of the
days. So they said that it's like a year,
a year and two or three months, right? So he will expand almost
the way COVID took over the world and like a year and a half or
something. So within a short period of time, he will dominate
the world and lure everyone with darkness in this art to him. And
the Prophet talked about the digit he said he is one eyed meanie he's
blind in one eye doesn't mean he's a cyclops. Good. Do you know that?
I taught this to kids for a long time. Like high schoolers. And
they said he's a cyclops. Listen, Knight is Cyclops blind. He's one
eyed means blind in one eye. He has two eye sockets, right? But
one of them's blind. One eye does not mean a cyclops. Okay, this was
a high school. Islamic school. Right? As a come on shake a
cyclops what's like what are you talking about? You said one I'd
known one I liked that meaning one I season one I was blind. Okay.
And this is becoming fashionable by the way these days? The idea of
the one eye because it's been documented that every successful
musician out there. Right has done this cover up one I look.
Yeah, Illuminati symbols on on there.
You know, taking a picture on a record or something like that.
In any event,
the dollar has to
you know that all security forces and stuff they say the all seeing
eye, meaning worship, were securing the land, and even Saudi
I went to some guy said, yeah, right. Why would it be that you
Saudi Muslim? Have an eye as a symbol for the Saudi security,
right? He's like, Oh, well, this is all seeing eye because we're
security we need to secure so I said well, why don't you be more
secure if you had two eyes right? What would you rather security
guard with one eye or two eyes? Right. So but I said the FE This
is unlimited. Just to jail is one I'm like, why would you put that
he's like, he never thought about that. He was like surprised. But
in any event,
the dead jug.
He rains he rules until this descent of Asa been met him. Now
all of this happens in one generation. The man de his entire
time when he unifies the OMA in these wars. It's only a few years.
Okay, that that Gen rise wants to two years
Then Prophet ASA Madame comes back the entirety of the reign of the
Mandy's seven years, which include a time by himself, a time against
the digit and a time with Prophet Jesus
and the digital and himself and a period of time with only himself
in Prophet Jesus, meaning Prophet Jesus kills
the Prophet ASA Madame comes back, and he goes straight to the Tel
Aviv airport.
He descends in Syria. Okay, and then he comes straight to Mr. OXA.
He prays with the Muslims, but refuses to be the Imam
Imam Mandisa, the prophet asis and the iqama was called for you,
you're the leader. So Prophet, I used to embody him as an honor to
the messenger Muhammad Sallallahu Sallam lives his first few years,
which match the Mandy's last few years as a follower of the Medici.
So the melody, the lineage of the Prophet peace be upon him as an
honor to the messenger SallAllahu Sallam and an honor to Al Hasson
and Mandy is a descendant of the of the prophets grandson it
hasn't. It hasn't gave up the Khilafah to bring the Muslims
together. So say it now isa refuses to take it away from him.
Okay, as an honor not only to the prophet but to Al Hassan even it.
It has an ally abdicated the caliphate to keep the Muslims
together, Prophet ace of a muddy and refuses to take the rule of
the Ummah from the descendant of at Husson. Okay, so he keeps him
and he lives for a few years, under or nationally since A
prophet is under but as a follower of an Hassane. Then Prophet Isa
immediately marched through what is now the airport of Tel Aviv is
bebb listed in the Hadith of the Prophet if you look at it now it's
totally the airport. And there he kills the Antichrist. He faces the
Antichrist directly and kills him. God kills him
thereafter, and I have I've left off a lot of things such as
Admiral Hamill, Cobra, the great slaughter, in which the dead jazz
forces will do a massive slaughter on Muslims. Massive slaughter and
they even under nuking North Africa, who knows what that means.
Okay? They will kill so many people. Okay, it is said that if
someone were to flop for fire, an arrow in the sky, okay, that it
would come down red. Why? Because the things of the birds of the sky
will be dying and Allah knows best. Okay, but point being is
that it will be there will be a great word which we call
Armageddon. Prophet ASA comes as in the middle of that battle, and
he changes the tides and he kills the Antichrist, and that war is
finished now keep in mind, miracles to us. The great miracles
come to Prophet Jesus.
Then there are lesser caught on that that happened.
Okay.
What else happens after this Armageddon Prophet ASA, the the
great force of darkness of the earth, that spread on the earth
and causing all these problems is gone.
After this battle, the height of the battle is in Jerusalem.
Okay.
Prophet ASA then marches through the whole world, he doesn't rest.
There is no rest. He marches throughout the entire world.
telling the people here's the truth, this is the final hour.
There is no more Jizya no more than what is jazzy and dim.
To be a vim me is listen, I don't want to enter Islam, but I'm not
gonna fight. I'll just live under your roof as Muslims, okay. And
I'll live I'll just stay Christian. I'll stay whatever. I
say fine. You pay us. You don't stay in the army. You don't go to
the army. Okay, but you pay ages. Yeah, Prophet Isa is saying there
is no time for this anymore. There's no time for Jizya except
this message or I'm fighting you. Okay.
He does this. And where is the biggest resistance that he's going
to have? And the biggest battle that the Prophet Jesus is going to
face?
India. It's called as the Hadith of the Prophet says, because what
URL hint? Because what's a hint, right. Because what's l hint is
mentioned by the prophet because it is so massive. It's already how
many billion people living there. almost 2 billion people. Okay. How
much idolatry how much of a stronghold does IBLEES have
on that area? Okay. Such a stronghold. And that will be a
massive fight.
But he will travel the entire he won't stop, profit a sum of money
and will go and spread to hate and Islam and the truth everywhere.
He will come back, being inspired with the Quran he will be know the
Quran, he will know the Sharia. And he will live on the law of
Muhammad salallahu Salam, he will affirm the truth that Muhammad
Sallallahu sallam was a prophet, he will break the cross and bring
all the Christians unified with Muslims. The Christians will leave
off all of their cross, crucifixion, Trinity beliefs, and
believe the truth about the Prophet, Ace of Medina and they
will see him in front of them. And keep in mind there is only one
prophet who the world has an agreement what it looks like.
The whole world knows what Prophet Jesus looks like. For example, we
can say what the prophet look like. Right? We don't depict the
prophet but we know how he looked. We know his hair was wavy, not
curly, nor straight. We know that skin tone.
We know a lot of things about the messenger some Alawis had a wide
mouth full lips. So if you bring me someone with a thin mouth,
small mouth and thin lips, we know it's not the Prophet, bringing
someone with curly hair. We know it's not the Prophet, perfectly
straight hair, blond hair, brown hair, red hair, we know it's not
the Prophet. There's only one person in the world, you show him
this picture. In China, they'll know who he is. That's Jesus, the
reddish hair that looks wet. That's that's wavy, that's down to
the shoulders as the prophets of the same thing. A reddish feature
to him with a beard
and always looks wet and have a lighter complexion. Moses have a
darker complexion of the prophet in the middle.
The entire world sort of will know who he is.
There's a wisdom why that image is spread around and it is the same
exact image as the prophet described. reddish hair parted
down flowing down looks like it's what
I have a father you need that check write two checks. Okay. I'm
sorry, I didn't write them yet. Can you in the trunk of the
checkbooks in the trunk? Can you actually get the keys are in my
jacket? Check what's in the trunk? I got a pen off all right, the
checks
Yeah, the whole world needs to know what he looks like because
he's gonna come on profit AC motor. How do you verify we all
know you? Everyone knows his face. I can't think of one person. Oh,
jackets sensors.
Their face is so widespread. Yeah.
Yeah.
They're gonna know who he is. Yeah.
So Prophet, the Imam, it brings all the Muslims together. And ends
any division amongst Muslims. There's no more colorless,
following any group. You don't need to follow opinions. You have
the final much to handyman. And Mandy, and then prophet, he says
role is to bring the Christians into the fold with of Islam.
I tell this to Christians all the time they laugh. I said, Well,
let's wait and see. I'm not going to argue. So the truth, wait and
see. Prophet ASA comes inspired with the knowledge of the Quran
and the Sharia. Okay, you think that's far fetched? I said, Why do
you think that's far fetched? How about rising up?
For 2000 years in the heavens and then coming back down? Right? You
ready believe that?
So why is it far fetched that he'll be inspired with the Arabic
tongue and the knowledge of the Quran, Allah to the sacred law,
Imam Maddy passes away then say nicer travels with the Muslims.
And he does this for many, many years, not just a few years, this
one is a longer period of time. Now where is the limit that Allah
has placed? Prophet Isa mme does all of this. Until Allah brings
out
a group of people who have lived long, long ago, that we believe as
an article of faith, essentially, not an article of faith, but we
believe in it. They are human beings
who have been living somewhere under the ground for centuries.
Someone says, Oh, we're in an age of science, you believe in this
nonsense? I actually believe that science is a lot more limited than
we imagined it to be. There is a lot that we don't know. So yes, I
do believe in it. Yet, Georgia met Jews are two tribes. And they are
so many people, so many people. And they will finally break out
and rise to the surface of the earth.
You know that there are caves. There are caves in Asia, that are
so huge. You can fit entirety of New York City in them. In China.
There are caves that you could fit a whole country in them. And there
is ways in which they get sunlight to
write, but they're below the surface thirds deep in caves. Who
knows? We don't know these things. Okay. So yeah, Georgia met jooge
Prophet ASA is not given permission to defeat them. In
other words, he cannot defeat them.
What does he do? He rises with the Muslims to the mountaintops.
Yet Georgia met George come on the earth and they do such a amount of
damage that cannot be described. Oh, I'm sorry. checkbook it's like
in the trunk. Yeah. Foundation to big black book, big black
binder
they do such an amount of damage it's unspeakable that even the
great Prophet ASA flees from them.
Okay, nobody can stop the Jews the tribes yet Judah metrics until how
do they die a virus clearly that makes sense because it's, in fact,
they're not in their natural atmosphere.
It's only a period of time, it's not even we can't even say
multiple years, just a short period of time they come up, they
do immense amount of damage to the world,
that Allah brings down a great rain that washes away their bodies
and the earth rains and rains and rains. And that brings us to the
last period
of the earth and that is a period of
great revival of the physical Earth. The sources of pollution
are gone, the rivers are flowing clean again. Okay. And this is a
wonderful period in which no one
no one resists. And no, nobody is inclined to evil, goodness has
spread far and wide. The Prophet peace be upon him said about this,
a little girl could walk from one town to the next. She won't even
worry about wolves. Right. And another narration because even the
wolves will be won't even have the anger inside or the the
aggressions and another Hadith, all she would worry about is
wolves, right. So the humans, the males will be safe, the the people
will be clean. The prophets I said them said the earth will be so
revived that a whole family, the whole tribe can eat a watermelon
old tribe.
That's how big the fruit will be. The animals will be so fat, that
when people give Zeca charity when they give their charity money,
that nobody will know who to take it, who to give it to, there'll be
nobody to take it. Nobody will say I'm poor, I need the money
everyone will be will have wealth that they need. And if they don't
have the wealth they need there'll be satisfied. No one will take it.
A man will walk around with his aka and not know where to give
those.
It's a very sweet period and the work that Prophet Isa and those
companions put through forth, they now reap the rewards of it. Until
and the capital now moves to Medina, Al Madina, Munawwara and
they're the Prophet, I used to be Madame
good, will pass away. And there is a gap
at the grave of the Prophet salallahu Salam on the left. That
is safe trim.
And he will be buried there after what after having married and had
children.
Then the prophets of Allah when he was sent him said a small a very
cool breeze will come meaning an era a short period of time, maybe
a year or two years. Very peacefully, very slowly. All the
believers will die. A peaceful death, then there will be no more
Muslims on earth. No believers on Earth. Remaining only on the earth
will be the scattered people who refuse to follow a prophet is of
Imodium and stuck stubbornly to their idolatry. Okay, and they
will be the worst of people because they saw the truth. The
truth had all the wealth. They still didn't go into like what
didn't you go? Okay, at least they're the winning side. They got
all the wealth, right? Even that they wouldn't do here. Can you
read the mail sign?
Alright, let's not even like because you know, a lot of people
they give up religion from material. Yeah. Even that they
don't even they don't even
like the worst year might be the worst of the worst, at least come
in to enjoy the wealth right. Then the major signs. There are more
major signs would come after that. hulless there is no Eman after
that. Like you cannot believe after that. It's there a pen is
there. Inside Inside the binder.
The first four signs are known the order Maddie.
The judge said nice with Maria get into geometric the next six signs.
It's unknown when they'll come. But there will be a point Hello.
It's like if you didn't accept this, then that's it. Your heart
is locked. And the calamities of the end times now we don't know
how long they'll live be a world full just non believers nobody
else just non believers, right.
We don't know how long are they even the prophets I said them said
that time will pass there will be life
On Earth after all the Muslims passed away, but there'll be no
Eman on the earth. And that people will say,
alright, Mecca used to be a place that Muslims live that people
lived used to be a populated city. Medina will be a pop me It used to
be a place people lived. Or they used to say someone will so
generations will live. So much so that some people will say, we had
grandparents, I remember them saying something about Allah.
The word Allah, like they don't even know what it is. So
generations will live. But there'll be no Eman, no Islam.
masajid will just be buildings, and there'll be empty, no one will
go into them. Right. So it's as if to say that generation of
believers will die off, the rest of the non believing world will
continue to live on. And then Islam will be a forgotten thing in
the world, the world will move on. Right? Then the judgment will come
upon them. Because there'll be no true believers on earth at that
time.
Is this last thing?
How much time is this lasting? Allah knows best but we do know
the MADI rules seven years Prophet ASA rules 40 years and they do
overlap for one or two or three years. So the entire thing is one
is in within one generation. If you live to see the beginning of
it, you'll see pretty much profit a sum of money. If you live to see
the Mende you will if you live a normal lifespan, you'll see
prophase muddy
it all happens in one generation. Then once that generation dies out
call us after that. Only the worst of the worst will live on
acid. Zafar says what about
the Hadith about the OMA lasting 1000 or 1500 years? Where do you
get that? That comes into in a week Hadith in the week Hadith
states that the Prophet sallallahu alayhi wa salam asks Allah, how
much will my last? Allah responded to him if they obey 1000 years, if
they disobey or a day a day with Allah's 1000 years? If they
disobey half a day, 500 years? So seal de surmises, and he has a
little treatise on this co2 surmises, the Muslims were good.
In the beginning, they had 1000 years of goodness,
then they will disobey. They'll only get 500 years. So he says
that the history of the whole almost is 1500 years with
speculation. He's speculating. Why is he speculating? He says Why
else do we have this hadith? Allah wants us to think about it. Right?
And wants us to think about it. So that's the concept of where we get
this this idea of 1500 years, then he does math backwards.
Does the math backwards? So if we know that the Prophet ASA rules
for 100 years, then upon his death is the OMA. So 1500 minus 40 is
1460. Okay, and then 1460 Then we know that Imam Maddy comes before
him for a few years by a few years. So
14, what how many years? Five years, six years? Who knows? We
don't know how long. So 1450s right around that time. And
ultimately, at the end of the day, this is not encouraged for Muslims
to do this mathematics. He maybe just did it wrote it once. But
it's not something he preached regularly or wrote about all over
his books. Why? The unseen? You're spying on Allah. Essentially. It's
as if you're spying on Allah. Leave the future to Allah Todd if
he wanted us, to me what it told us. I love what have you. Ballmer
always says, he says, What will you do if the Monday comes? Right?
What will the Monday ask you to do?
Act by the Sharia. Right. So we already have the video, and we can
act upon it now. So you just keep doing it. Mandy is not bringing a
new law. Prophet, he is not bringing a new law. Okay, except
that he abrogates the jizya. Okay, he abrogates the abrogates does,
yeah. Okay. So these are the that's a summary of what
ecotourism and it's and as you see there, the two great wars, one
around that middle area, the Middle East area, Jerusalem, and
the second one in India, and what does the Quran say? I said the
NASA within the leadin Avenue. Well, he then said the NASA delta
and Alladhina amanu you will find the most hateful in their
animosity towards you most the strongest in their hatred of you
are Alia hood
and those who worship false gods who
versus false gods on Earth. And do
you go to China Do you see false gods all over the place? No. China
they're like I don't know what there aren't confusion some
Christians but but one thing is true you don't go walk around
seeing false gods if I go to a Chinese store and we have someone
East Brunswick we got to Chinese like
cultural store essentially it's big it's huge I don't see I don't
see God's I go to any store any store even the the 99 cent store
the $1 shop
right in my near my house North Brunswick he goes and you buy like
lighters lighter fluid and stuff like that setlist regular stuff
you go to the to the cash register there's little gods five cent gods
$5 Gods right
it's God's everywhere so truly live the national cool the people
truly shook right now is in his in India more than anywhere else
like the Chinese you know Buddha like the statues what do they like
worship? I don't think it's the Buddhists are are two different
types of Thank you Sorry for not reading them earlier
they have different types some hold him as a holy man some hold
him has I think that worship Him right
I remember that back in comparative religion days there's
the two strands of Buddhists
like they all say he's a human well then they're split into the
split into some beer
some hot a lot of them all right, let's see what else Jason 3d says
the remaining period of your stay on the earth in comparison these
words like the prayer of Austin and sunset in Makati. So,
OS to sunset
is means three fourths of human history is over.
Right? The advent of the Prophet himself marks three fourths right
thanks.
All right. marks the three fourths of the day okay
what is heavy I'm gonna say he said
all of the minor signs the minor signs mostly have come we're
waiting on the big the major signs and the bulk of that period of
time of that era of the end of time. The bulk of it is gone but
the worst of it is yet to come. What is all this?
Huh?
All right, they open up
open up
the people of the Torah says Jason,
were given the torah and they acted upon it till midday.
So Prophet he says Advent is would be he's reciting Hadith. I know
these ideas. I just didn't remember them until he mentioned
them. Then they were worn out and were given the reward of their
labor. Okay, then. Okay, so midday would mark the coming of Jesus.
Which is it is sort of makes sense in the sense that humans had
forgot the power of Allah halfway through. The Prophet I used to be
muddy him is a reminder of the creative power of Allah and that
this cause and effect that we live with every single day
only exists because Allah wants it to exist not because it has any
power in itself. It's a reminder of God's power, the creation of
Jesus without a father. Okay? It's a reminder of God's power.
Alright, open up
thank you for these Headies Jason what's the one question which one
is up?
ad says X Shia here all right, mashallah good for you? I'm
confused about something. Why is why we considered a strategy. He's
not we don't consider more of a cottage even though
Oh, why is he not considered a cottage even though he did Cluj.
Against Cluj requires you to submit and then rebel he never
submitted in the first place.
And we hold his submission is non submission to be an error based
upon an incorrect attempt to find the truth.
You see,
we hold
the
refusal of Marwa to submit to at least Khilafah say now this
Khilafah to be
based upon an error in seeking to find the truth.
Okay.
Why do we uphold as sunny as Muslims, the honor of muawiya as a
companion as someone whose mistakes or mistakes have errors
as opposed to evil? Why? Because we are in fact upholding the
Prophet with that the messenger SallAllahu atta he was setting
them appointed while
Yeah. Satan Amalia as a scribe of the Quran, and of his personal
letters, would the prophets of Allah when he was sudden him leave
His will His words the word of Allah in the hands of somebody who
was who was dishonest?
Who was corrupt
so that's why the upholding of Satan mo Alia and his Adela
is in fact upholding the Prophet sallallahu alayhi wa sallam, and
the opposite is true. If you're going against Marya, then what are
you saying about the Prophet having made him a scribe? Okay,
and there's no discussion the Prophet made them a scribe.
Right?
And you know why there's no discussion because she had
themselves love a hadith that seems to put me in a bad light.
What's the Hadith? The prophets I send them said, Get me more. I
need a scribe.
They went Gmail. Oh, yeah. And they found a meeting. So they went
to the messengers of Allah says, Oh, he's eating. Well, first of
all, he he may be was new in Islam. Maybe he didn't know when
the Prophet calls you. You break everything, even your Salah you
speed it up. Or some of the scholars said if the prophet calls
you and you're praying a Sunnah prayer or a nephila, non
obligatory prayer, even an obligatory prayer, you walk to
him, answer him, DO what He tells you to do. And go back and pick up
where you left off.
Subhanallah imagine that prophets of Allah when he was setting up,
calls your name while you're praying sought out to vote.
You don't set them out of the prayer, you walk to him fulfill
what he needs you to do. Because it's as if you're in prayer while
obeying the prophets. Okay? And, and then you go back to where your
prayer spot and you where you left off notes, or anything, just
exactly as you left off. So the Prophet sallallahu alayhi wa
sallam was told he's eating
the he, they went a few minutes later, when they assume that
person would have finished eating. And they said, O Messenger of
Allah, he's still eating.
Two times, now the prophet called you and you didn't come to answer
him. So what do we attribute this to? He's new in Islam, right? And
we have other companions who did the same thing. That's why Allah
revealed the Quran. All right. Why don't you answer to the Prophet
peace be upon Him when He calls you to do something because the
Sahaba were doing other things and didn't come to the Prophet? So
they didn't know. Ignorance is not sinful. So what did the Prophet
said the Prophet peace be upon him said he's still eating, may Allah
never satiate his stomach. Right? So you're gonna prefer your food
over your messenger? Right? Well, May you never get what you want
from your food. Why did the Prophet do that? That removes his
sin.
That is an explanation of a sin there is a Hadith about the
prophet or the prophesy says that Oh ALLAH whenever I get upset at
my companions making an explanation for their sins so that
when the Prophet is upset with a companion that that upsetness
wipes away their sense right
so the first time fine he didn't know the second time No, that's
not acceptable unless you've been eating for 30 minutes going into
the Prophet peace when there's no excuse for that second time first
time excuse second time no excuse. So they like to cite that hadith
against Somalia and said no, we did end up being somebody who
could never say she had his stomach he was always full right?
He was you know some some some of them have Assyrian said. They said
this was the Quran baby gonna tell you that. Right? The pure marry
the pure and the filthy, marry the filthy right? So what do you say
and then about the Prophet peace be upon? And how are you going to
curse oh my god dub when Satan Ali ibn Abi thought of married his own
daughter to Omar.
Right. So what are you saying about either you're gonna say
something bad about Omar? Are you gonna say something bad about, say
not his daughter? Or are you gonna say something bad about Ali
himself? Because he knowingly married his daughter off to Omar.
So what are you saying about it? He's marrying his daughter to a
facet, but as a biller, it's all a convoluted,
inconsistent thing that can be undone and dispose of quickly
how old my teen is in Europe
Jason brings us another che, what are your thoughts on this?
We wrote in this abou after the message My servants are the
righteous shall inherit the earth. Yes, the true believers will
always eventually inherit the earth what is inherit the earth
meaning have victory and be established in the earth at the
time it was
whoever won the
profit of that time was it's for whoever was the profit of that
time.
Okay
on Kelco Dutch I'm in Germany I'm very interested in to so worth
reading about awakening your heart with vicar.
Even if you do not have a chef
try to get up in the middle of the night and remember Allah and make
dua and make much Salah on the prophets of Allah when he was
Saddam and watch videos. You have Habib Ahmed or there has a German
translator Sheikh Mahmoud His name is look for him he has an
institute he teaches classes try to find I don't know his last name
look up in your phone, Sheikh Mahmoud Germany
he is
your go to in Germany inshallah
does not seen the profit in the dream mean that you are lacking?
No.
If you don't see the profit in the dream, it does not mean you're
missing out on that virtue. Of course, there's no doubt about
that. But we can say that that person is lacking. In other words,
his deen is defective we cannot say he could be fully pious and
upright and he doesn't see the prophets of Allah Hudson.
Do you have any advice on increasing memorization? And how
to effectively retain was previously memorized? Yes. Simple
advice I had to put on never miss a day and be patient. Never miss a
day continued to review and be patient
and don't listen to music and lower your gaze from the haram.
Red Robin says can you make an analysis about the events during
Mandy's return and our current day?
It's the best.
The best approach
to activism is just to read the sound headlights and stop right
there.
It's not good to try to link them to today. Okay, why? Because if
you're wrong, people say oh the whole thing is wrong. Right? Imam
Ahmed was very strict on the signs of the end of time. Why? Because
if a false Hadith enters in and you believe it then the opposite
happens what would you say of all the Hadith
so that's why I take a very conservative approach. Just the
safest approach cite the Hadith as they have come soundly and stop
there.
We don't necessarily but now what we can do is if it's a prophecy
then yes we could look around and say it's here did not the prophesy
sudden said one day there will be come a time when metal speaks and
a sandal strap and the shoelace and and a man stick or whip will
tell him what's happening in his home. So what is sandal strap and
whip is your everyday objects will be informing you about other
mundane things right so my watch my phone is informing me of what's
happening in my family what's happening in my life what's
happening in my home I can know who's who's knocking on my door if
I have rink
you know the Amazon doorbell
alright
so
that we can do the Prophet peace be upon have talked about those
competing and building tall buildings. We see them in the
desert.
They're all vacant and yet they're still
Why is everyone saying this stream is down
just refresh it folks.
What's up guys? What's Hill hints fulfilled with Mohammed bin Qasim?
I think I believe because lenders refer to first aid nice and muddy.
Yep.
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