Shadee Elmasry – NBF 63 College Trends (Special Guest Chaplain Kaiser Aslam)

Shadee Elmasry
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The conversation covers the history and culture of Connecticut, including past and current events and guest performers. The speakers emphasize the importance of finding a mentor and sharing stories of people who have experienced similar experiences. They touch on trends on social media, including Facebook's "monster" mentality and the "monster" mentality of young people. They stress the importance of finding a reference point for one's own values and finding a way to create a authentic life. They also touch on the negative impact of social media on people's feelings and perception of their bodies, and the importance of understanding and learning about a certain text of what is done to their language.
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like second level the third second or third suitable because easy to

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read too for beginners beginners Karen Armstrong says if that's

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true that's up

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now

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he will be human Well welcome everybody to nothing but Facts.

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Today we have some guests, masha Allah we have a

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special guest who's basically like our colleague from down the road.

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You are working with the Rucker students as a chaplain or brother

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case of

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Islam, Islam Islam, because you know we have case your alum Yeah.

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Very well. Yes. Everyone is confusing case out. I love him in

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case he's a great guy. Yeah, he is. He's a tutor, by the way.

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So okay, so Adam,

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South Brunswick case on esalaam is the chaplain at Rutgers

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University. So Michelle Lata you've been there for four years

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now so far I just finished my six six Wow.

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Active she comes to this

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She's from Connecticut. I don't know if she's here right now, but

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we're about to badmouth Connecticut, and say all sorts of

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terrible things. There are some beautiful things that come out of

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interesting spaces. Yeah. So I mean, that's a good way to put it.

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There, because they're, hey, guys you do here?

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And

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what's going on? What did they say?

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You'll take care of okay, so

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Connecticut is a place where, to me was a good place to completely

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just disappear, and be with my family when I went on with them.

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Yeah. Because when we were just growing up and having kids and

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stuff like that, and it was literally nothing to do. No

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distractions. That's true. Right now we're the exact opposite. Now

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there's like, constant non stop, a wedding, a funeral. I mean, party

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invitation, this event, this event, this event, this event,

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like there's never a day where like, there's nothing on the

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schedule, even if there's not as someone will knock on the door.

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Right? We have neighbors, the kids are out, right? They're just

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always stuff going on. So I guess that's really good for the middle

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of a family's life. But in the beginning, this idea that were

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like there's literally nothing to do with Connecticut. And that was

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the first five years, let's say of when we started having kids and

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stuff. But they there was literally nothing to do except go

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to the halal market. Yeah, by the meat, maybe whatever, they have

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the new new, have a bite out, nothing else to do. So now Chicago

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that was very much like New Jersey in that people who are born there

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tend to stay there. That's true. That's very true. You have entire

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generations that go through there. And I think one of the interesting

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things about Connecticut also was it's very transitory to the point

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where people go there either for school, and then they leave

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Chicago, CONNECTICUT, Connecticut, or they go there for maybe a work

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placement thing, and then they leave. And as soon as you get

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there, and you're involved in the community, there's almost this

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jadedness that people have, like, how long do we have you for?

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That's exactly it. They're not completely willing to invest in

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you or that relationship just yet, because they're not sure if you're

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going to stay for a while. And exactly, it's a safety mechanism

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on their end, so totally, and completely appreciate it. I

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remember one time, we had a crew, and Omar Bajwa, and a couple other

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families. There was a Friday night we'd get together, right? And do

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stuff. And he was sometimes busy with the job and see, but all the

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other families would I remember one summer, we lost like 75% of

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the Yeah, they all left different jobs in different areas. Then it

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was like, Oh, this is how it works. This is how it is here.

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Right. And then we eventually were one of the people who left so that

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was exactly as I as much as I wanted to ensure people like no,

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it sounds like we're gonna keep we left after three years. Yeah. So.

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But even that isolation element I will appreciate and I think I had

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the similar experience of I had just gotten married, and I moved

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there and I was actually able to study which you almost never get

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to do in a city like Chicago, at least where I grew up. If you try

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to sit down back, take the semester off to do what to study,

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you know, you're not

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going on all the time. You're way too busy. And they're they're the

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idea that you have to

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Connecticut to leave, everyone's leaving, except that people who

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can't afford to leave, right? Yeah, even those guys who want to

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leave, you ask the people who actually live in that they want to

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leave to Yeah, right and the only thing that I don't think is

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actually I don't count as Connecticut as a top north of

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Connecticut, where their life is in is in Boston. That's really

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true. And the bottom is by themselves and they never show up

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to the Connecticut events. Yeah, they're all New York. So Stamford,

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which I'm actually going to Stanford June 24 Stamford all

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those Eric Greenwich. They don't consider themselves they're not

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Connecticut. They're they're they're in New York, especially

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because I mean Nyack and stuff is right, right there. You go to New

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York City. Go up a little bit. You have Nyack, West Nyack, all those

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really nice suburbs in New York City. And Greenwich and Stamford.

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Just have a line between them as an artificial border, but

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culturally, they're all the same. Yeah. So you Chicago people are

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born there. They stay there. New Jersey, same thing. I can't say

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the same thing for Virginia. There's a lot of transitory Enos

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in Virginia, there's a lot of universities people go there for

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university leave, right? Most Rutgers students, their jersey

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base kits, right? They are. And there's they're planning to stay

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here. Right. So that's what I love about these two places when you go

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there. He's I went to hang out in Chicago one time I saw huge groups

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of friends. Yeah, right. Like tons of dudes. And they all knew each

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other from childhood. So that was the nice part of Chicago and I

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think

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New York, Jersey is the same thing. Like Central Jersey. We got

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friendships from ages and then now we're on second generation stuff.

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Yeah, so that's really nice. Now, you you came over to Jersey, you

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became the champion in the first place. You were traveling. I was

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this is the third place I was a child.

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100 in terms of at a university setting, yeah, but this is the

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first time where the organization is an Islamic organization. That's

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definitely true. Yeah, it was hired by universities beforehand

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to from the ground up established a chaplaincy was very different.

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That's really hard. So it was very difficult in that way. But it was

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also it's been so much more rewarding as a result. Yeah. So

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you know, when I got my, when I finished my PhD, I can a, I missed

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the first round, because I had some corrections. Because when you

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get to a PhD, they give you corrections. I had the same thing

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for my master's dissertation. They give you these annoying patches.

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And they asked me to add a chapter. I was like, oh, there's

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it takes six months. Not that cost me to miss the academic hiring

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cycle. So I had to get any old job. And one of the jobs I

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actually applied for was Trinity College. Okay, not as a job but as

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a chaplain. So I signed up for Arabic. I said, Well, we do have

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an opening for chaplain. Yeah. I have no training in this right.

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Like I. So they she sits me down. And I sit down and have an

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interview with the head chaplain.

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Chaplain reed, reed. Yeah. I know that just because I was at

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Wesleyan, which is the sister school of

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reading read, and somebody else and and we had this interview, but

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it very quickly on I realized, like, I realized that this is not

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going to work, they really not going to work. And then we just

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were chit chatting after a while. Yeah. And that was my only setting

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in the world of chaplaincy. But how does it feel for you to when

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you're almost like Connecticut, but reverse now the students

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coming in? And they're going to be gone? Yeah. Right. So it's similar

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feeling right?

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I hadn't thought about it that way. But yeah, very much. So

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there's a 25%, like, at least 25% change have the entire student

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community for a year. And oftentimes, it's more than that,

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because I see, usually, the Muslim leadership community is it's

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usually two to three years, it's not actually that full four year,

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so it's actually an even bigger change per year. And yes, it's

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interesting, because I've seen my role go from being kind of more of

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like someone who guides what's happening to observing trends and

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pointing them out. Because one of the things I've started to realize

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and really appreciate, throughout kind of observing the Muslim

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community is sometimes there's trends that are healthy to have,

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we try to let individuals go through it while the community

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progresses, because it's healthy for the individual. But when you

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look at it from a communal perspective, it might be damaging.

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So we try to walk them through that realizing it might be good

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for them, but try to make it so that they can fully process it

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rather than harming it anytime a genius. Give me an example.

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Because I mean, the classic example that you'll see,

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especially in like a mentorship role will be oftentimes someone

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inshallah get some guidance for the first time, right, like they

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hadn't taken the deed seriously. And they suddenly are overzealous

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in compensating for maybe some of the things they had done in their

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past. And may Allah accept their efforts. But they oftentimes adopt

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a style of approach maybe, or lifestyle, that's way too limiting

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of themselves. So even of themselves, it might not last them

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for a very long time, or they start imposing this on their

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family and friends. And this is where the problem comes in, it's

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probably healthy for them. Because of course, we have a belief

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system, even in like elbow works, one of the ways that the size of

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an accepted Doba, that you make up for the sin that you've just done.

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So you introduce a bunch of good habits into your system. And

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that's good for you. But the issue is that other people might not be

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able to keep up or even you might not be able to keep that up in the

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long term. So oftentimes, as you're observing this happen, you

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have to recognize that this is good for you. But to spread it to

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everyone right now, they might not be ready for it. And it might make

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them think that the deen is more restrictive, or this lifestyle is

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more unrealistic than it actually needs to be. And that's why I

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think that can only happen if there's people are getting their

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own guidance on their own without a mentor, or without very close

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link to somebody who's been around the block that they could look up

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to. And unfortunately, like a lot of us may have come into a

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situation where there are elders, but you don't look up to them.

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Like they're not you. They're not something special. So we don't pay

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any attention to them. Right. And we don't want to be and we don't

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want to be like somebody who we see on the internet, we actually

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we don't see his real life. Yeah. And we have no idea what phases

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they've went through. And all of this we have like this weird

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snapshot of who they are, which oftentimes, I think that's one of

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things we don't appreciate is that when you have a face to face

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interaction with someone you can sit with, they can share with you

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a narrative that they've been through when you have like a video

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of them at this trough weird peek at that there. You don't get that

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human element and recognizing oh, maybe they're actually more

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relatable than even I thought they were or that they you're just

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seeing like lectures or something or retreats or something like

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that. You're not seeing them how they actually live with their

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Neighbors like when he's picking cucumbers is you have a turban on

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this big and Trader Joe's right? Picking the cucumbers, right? So

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there's that element of having your role model sheet or shape or

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something that's far away. That's what I went through. Right? I'd

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never we never had like we had local the local Imams, but not to

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say that we were it was arrogant, but it wasn't the charm that I was

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looking for. Right. So I ignored them. And then I was looking for I

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think a lot of us can relate to this. You're looking at someone

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that you saw online, right? Yeah. And you don't know how they live

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in regular everyday life, you have these huge gaps, right?

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Do you think like, on Saturday morning, he's just he's he's doing

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the same thing he's doing on YouTube, or on? Well, there wasn't

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even YouTube at the time, there was just the snapshot of the

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intensive, right, and the memory of the intent. That's all you saw

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him at. So you don't know what he's doing. So you filling in the

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blanks on your own, and without doubt, making big mistakes, right,

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and lacking experience, lacking common sense, etc. So that's the

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idea where if there are shoe they're living there, and the

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people, this is why they say in the books, you see them in all

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their states, which means you see them as a dad, you see them as an

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employee, you see him as a businessman, you see him as a

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regular masala in the community. You see them and all that that's

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how you actually can smooth out that religious kick phase that can

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be really detrimental if people are filling in the blanks on their

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own. Yeah.

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So that'll be kind of one example of like, an individual goes

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through a trend and the community maybe like girl becomes observing

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it, making sure that inshallah the pitfalls don't happen, because

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some of that is healthy, like this idea of like, overzealousness, and

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then kind of falling back and then okay, what have you learned, like

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having conversation after the fact or during? What have you learned?

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What if, from last semester this semester, it really listening to

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someone as they process it, just pointing things out that they've

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already kind of figured out? Okay, so what's you? The, the best and

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the worst? What's the worst trend that you see that's, like really

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deadly? And what is the most optimistic and the best thing that

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you see?

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Well, I think the worst will be

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this culture of profiles. And I think that a lot of young people

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are growing up in and out. To be fair, I also grew up in this to an

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extent, though I'm more of a foreigner to it. But this idea

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that from a very young age, you had to make a profile that other

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people could see, and you're judged on it, and your curation of

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it brings you some degree of happiness. We'd like to think of

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fake self, essentially. Yeah. And to be fair, a lot of college

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students, they grew up in elementary schools having

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Facebook's Yeah, and then eventually moving to other forms

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of social media. And then the darker sides of it of like when

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they're apps that other people will literally rate them based on

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this are their opportunities will be presented based on what profile

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they put forward.

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To think that that doesn't turn into a religious profile, or a

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spiritual profile that they have. It's this, this weird mentality

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that gets found these social media trends find themselves into how we

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run a community, how would we think of ourselves? That's I would

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say, like some of the worst trends that I've seen, and it just

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completely represented, and that leads to also this like weird

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polarization as well, because part of how you define a profile is by

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what you're not, it's not just by what you are, but you have to

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forcibly remove yourself from what you're not, for example, so

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how would you do that on your social media? Yeah. So on your

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social media, it would be if you wear certain clothing, you don't

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wear certain other clothing, if you take if you always represent

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yourself in a certain way of lighting, quote, unquote,

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right? Certain spaces that you would affiliate yourself certain

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music that you associate yourself with colors, all of these type of

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things, they form even in terms of how we talk about the community

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that we're a part of. So some of the debates that we have of like

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someone's spiritual or someone's more like, Where's the proof of

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this? Which community are you coming from what's ethnic

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background is coming from, I think that makes itself it's makes its

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way into this spiritual communities as well. And to me,

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that ends up being extremely detrimental and becomes polarized

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very, very quickly. And you start wearing even sometimes knowledge

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or religious affiliation or communal affiliation as a badge of

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like, I'm part of this, look, I've taken this class, people used to

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post like, this is happening, and that becomes the duty of social

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capital. Yeah, rather than what it was supposed to do. Like it was

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supposed to increase the humility, increase your understanding, of

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course, the ultimate truth of creator and creation, like that

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was supposed to be only distinction. But what it does

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instead is adds a bunch more delineations of how do I see

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myself versus the rest of the people around me? So I'm sure

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psychiatrists have written about this. And for everyone out there,

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the topic on Wednesday is always current, current affairs of the

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Muslims. That's the topic on Wednesdays and then we close out

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with a DUA. Right?

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Especially specifically on Wednesday, and today's I guess you

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could say our topic for today is basically trends on

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On campus, right? So Ryan, if you want to put this and for some

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peoples who are here

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want to wonder what the topic is? It's most of them related trends

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on campuses, right? And you're gonna be the person who is at the

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introduction, and now you all know what the topic of the day is, is

00:36:46 --> 00:36:50

current affairs of the OMA trends on campus. And I feel so bad

00:36:50 --> 00:36:54

sitting like above at a higher level than you. But this is, this

00:36:54 --> 00:36:57

is the first time we've had a face to face before that people sitting

00:36:57 --> 00:37:01

here. And it's like I'm turning my neck and it's terrible, right. But

00:37:01 --> 00:37:04

this is the first time we did a face to face. So inshallah we'll

00:37:04 --> 00:37:09

get better as time goes on. But the topic being the worst trend on

00:37:09 --> 00:37:14

campus. And then the best trend, the worst trend, this idea that

00:37:14 --> 00:37:21

people are curating a fake self, right from a young age is really

00:37:21 --> 00:37:25

weird, because now at that point, that person may not have a

00:37:25 --> 00:37:28

reference point to the fact that that's not real right now. And

00:37:28 --> 00:37:31

what's real. And the idea of a reference point to me is so

00:37:31 --> 00:37:35

important. The reference point concept is so important, because

00:37:36 --> 00:37:38

things are going to happen, you're going to develop with certain

00:37:38 --> 00:37:42

things, but you need to be able to say that this is real or fake,

00:37:43 --> 00:37:47

good or bad relative to what Yeah, so that's the idea of, of the pure

00:37:47 --> 00:37:53

upbringing, right? And when I say pure, I just mean simple, right? A

00:37:53 --> 00:37:57

really simple old fashioned upbringing, up to, let's say, late

00:37:57 --> 00:38:02

high school, mid or late high school. Now you have a good solid

00:38:02 --> 00:38:05

number of years by which to say, yeah, that's real. That's life.

00:38:06 --> 00:38:09

And this is that's fan life and family life. And this is something

00:38:09 --> 00:38:12

new, this is something else. Right? But what you're saying is

00:38:12 --> 00:38:17

that when they're curating their lives, from a young age, and now

00:38:17 --> 00:38:20

the curation is increasingly all visible, visual, yeah, like

00:38:20 --> 00:38:23

Instagram is successful, because it's a completely visual app.

00:38:24 --> 00:38:27

Right? And Instagram is successful, because you open it up

00:38:27 --> 00:38:31

and you go straight to it. face for the Facebook app, to me has

00:38:31 --> 00:38:36

become way too complex, right? You open the Facebook app, and then

00:38:38 --> 00:38:40

I use another one, but

00:38:42 --> 00:38:48

which is the Facebook, like pages, right pages for Facebook? I don't

00:38:48 --> 00:38:51

know if that's what you guys see. But I can't by the time I get to

00:38:51 --> 00:38:56

what I need to get to, right, like 10 seconds have passed. And I've

00:38:56 --> 00:38:59

been distracted. Twitter's a much better app, you go straight to it,

00:38:59 --> 00:39:05

and boom, your tweets are there, right? Instagram is straight

00:39:05 --> 00:39:10

visual, right? You as soon as you open it, right? You get the

00:39:10 --> 00:39:15

visuals right away, which probably will really mess up people's self

00:39:15 --> 00:39:19

esteem. Because not everyone is perfectly visible. Like, their

00:39:19 --> 00:39:22

visual is not that great, right? Yeah. So they're gonna I'm sure

00:39:22 --> 00:39:26

there's psychiatrists and stuff. And psychologists, I should say,

00:39:26 --> 00:39:31

who are who have a lot to say about this concept and idea of

00:39:32 --> 00:39:33

creating for yourself

00:39:35 --> 00:39:38

a profile Yeah, a young age where you don't even not even familiar

00:39:38 --> 00:39:41

with reality yet. And I think that that extends into what I would

00:39:41 --> 00:39:44

classify as like another major problem would be that when someone

00:39:44 --> 00:39:49

then tries to tell you how to change something, yeah, it's it's

00:39:49 --> 00:39:51

it sounds like a social attack, even though it wasn't so even

00:39:51 --> 00:39:56

simple things of criticism, like bettering this or doing this, it

00:39:56 --> 00:40:00

has with it like Oh no, you're debasing me in some way because

00:40:00 --> 00:40:03

Isn't my value is based on this image. But if you've criticized

00:40:03 --> 00:40:06

that image, you're criticizing me, which is, in my opinion, so

00:40:06 --> 00:40:08

counterintuitive to a lot of what our tradition says of like the

00:40:08 --> 00:40:11

Skia is built purification building yourself. Yeah. And

00:40:11 --> 00:40:15

sometimes through some pain or growth or burning that type of

00:40:15 --> 00:40:17

thing. So you get better. And you get into this trend of like, you

00:40:17 --> 00:40:21

can't tell me what to do. Because if you do that, you've taken

00:40:21 --> 00:40:24

something away. And then the other side of this is, it doesn't matter

00:40:24 --> 00:40:30

what you do, as long as it's you. Yeah, is that is another just like

00:40:30 --> 00:40:33

extension of this as well, which I think it's all very much related.

00:40:33 --> 00:40:37

Here's another thing with like, it's almost like a GISTIC were in

00:40:37 --> 00:40:41

the old days, you're on the same platform of life, that same

00:40:41 --> 00:40:46

theater or arena of life as everyone else. So an old man, he's

00:40:46 --> 00:40:50

on the same he's gonna He's He's lived on the same arena of life

00:40:50 --> 00:40:54

that you're gonna live in. No different. Whereas the elders of

00:40:54 --> 00:40:59

today, they're not on the same. Yeah, like youth are coming up on

00:40:59 --> 00:41:02

that platform, whether it's whatever the app is, and it's now

00:41:02 --> 00:41:06

it's Instagram probably is and Tik Tok, right, whatever it is, these

00:41:06 --> 00:41:09

are they're always going to change. And then you have elders

00:41:09 --> 00:41:11

that you're looking at, we're trying to give you a piece of

00:41:11 --> 00:41:15

advice. And you're like, you don't even have Yeah, like life on that

00:41:15 --> 00:41:20

platform. So your entire value is totally downgraded. Yeah, right.

00:41:20 --> 00:41:23

And I've seen the way people have looked at like their grandparents,

00:41:24 --> 00:41:28

or even like, even slightly older people, that naughty wouldn't even

00:41:28 --> 00:41:31

be their parents who aren't on those other platforms, those

00:41:31 --> 00:41:34

platforms never existed. And they like aged out of it, they're not

00:41:34 --> 00:41:38

going to open a tick tock account, right? And they got a 49 year old

00:41:38 --> 00:41:43

doctor, right? Who's pretty set in their career. Now. They're not

00:41:43 --> 00:41:45

going to have a tick tock account, they're going to open up a tick

00:41:45 --> 00:41:48

tock, or maybe not even any account, right? Yeah. This guy's

00:41:49 --> 00:41:54

made men. And then he's got like a nephew who's like, 14, he looks at

00:41:54 --> 00:41:59

him like someone who is in another planet. Completely. Yeah, he's not

00:41:59 --> 00:42:03

in the same arena. So they don't value anything that they have to

00:42:03 --> 00:42:08

say. I love this. This actually makes me think of the moving to

00:42:08 --> 00:42:11

thoughts on this one is, yeah, just by the sheer technology

00:42:11 --> 00:42:15

element, people aren't going to be present. Who really should we

00:42:15 --> 00:42:19

should be benefiting from our fathers, uncles, random people in

00:42:19 --> 00:42:22

the community that should have an influence, rather than it being

00:42:22 --> 00:42:24

this chosen group of people because they happen to be on the

00:42:24 --> 00:42:27

technology that's there. And it gets into the echo chamber

00:42:27 --> 00:42:29

discussion of not only that, but you get to curate who you listen

00:42:29 --> 00:42:33

to, when like which group you want to associate with that becomes so

00:42:33 --> 00:42:36

much more emphasized. But the other side of this, I think is, I

00:42:36 --> 00:42:39

think this also explains why certain figures rise to the top

00:42:39 --> 00:42:43

who maybe break out of that mold, and I know right now there's

00:42:43 --> 00:42:45

there's a lot of conversation on like college campuses for people

00:42:45 --> 00:42:48

like Jordan Peterson, for example, I just recently heard his

00:42:48 --> 00:42:52

conversation with Hamza Yusuf. And I was actually very well done. But

00:42:53 --> 00:42:56

why do people like that rise to the top so much? It's because

00:42:56 --> 00:43:00

well, we don't they're usually not here. So when one does break, Oh,

00:43:00 --> 00:43:06

I see becomes that much more important and impactful? And I'm

00:43:06 --> 00:43:09

conflicted, whether that's totally a good thing or a bad thing?

00:43:09 --> 00:43:12

Because do I think some good is happening? Yes. But is it at the

00:43:12 --> 00:43:15

expense of is that the amalgamation of all of your older

00:43:15 --> 00:43:18

male influences that should have been in your life but instead

00:43:18 --> 00:43:22

you've chosen to glob onto this one? So you're saying because he's

00:43:22 --> 00:43:26

like a older professor, you don't expect him to be

00:43:28 --> 00:43:32

in these in these spaces, but because he is suddenly becomes

00:43:32 --> 00:43:35

that much more important or like we should all listen to him and

00:43:35 --> 00:43:39

this and this in the other side of this will be like this invention

00:43:39 --> 00:43:42

of celebrity that's always there. It's just it's just a very odd

00:43:42 --> 00:43:46

phenomenon. Yeah. So that's, that is one of the worst trends and

00:43:46 --> 00:43:48

let's see what people are saying here. First of all,

00:43:50 --> 00:43:54

you have fanclub here Haroon owes money you know, Haroon

00:43:56 --> 00:44:01

this Karim's brother can't be visited. You recognize it? No, no,

00:44:01 --> 00:44:03

no, that is not creams. No, no.

00:44:04 --> 00:44:08

No de Palestinian brothers, you came to drop off the big shipment

00:44:08 --> 00:44:11

for Miss. Oh, okay. So he's not creams, brother. What's created

00:44:11 --> 00:44:18

brothers call it Tom. Okay. I assume Rockstar, graduated Trinity

00:44:18 --> 00:44:22

College. And my siblings went to Wesleyan, Wesleyan was rated as

00:44:22 --> 00:44:26

the number one most atheist school. It is such a secular

00:44:26 --> 00:44:31

experience. But that's what made the Muslim community kind of need

00:44:32 --> 00:44:35

some degree of kind of like a space to be because it was such a

00:44:35 --> 00:44:37

secular environment that

00:44:38 --> 00:44:41

we needed the escape that was provided by the community there

00:44:41 --> 00:44:44

was it was super important and relevant. And they had one

00:44:44 --> 00:44:49

chaplaincy Trinity was things but it was it was joint for a while

00:44:49 --> 00:44:52

when I got there. They had split it and since then, I think we've

00:44:52 --> 00:44:54

kept it separate because there's enough work to be done on both

00:44:54 --> 00:44:55

campuses.

00:44:56 --> 00:44:58

Okay, so let's see who else you have.

00:45:00 --> 00:45:04

The chaplain at Rutgers has done wonders working with the Muslim.

00:45:05 --> 00:45:09

College students. May Allah bless him. I show love. That's your man

00:45:09 --> 00:45:13

I'd met. You know? Okay. All right.

00:45:15 --> 00:45:20

Facebook's UI is a dumpster fire. I totally agree. No was agreeing

00:45:20 --> 00:45:25

with me. You go on to the Facebook app. It's like, a maze of buttons

00:45:25 --> 00:45:27

to find where you want to go.

00:45:28 --> 00:45:32

Nimra says this generation of men are seeing more 10 out of 10

00:45:32 --> 00:45:37

looking women in five minutes than most men in history would have

00:45:37 --> 00:45:41

seen their entire life. Yes, is not normal. Why did you delete

00:45:41 --> 00:45:42

that number? Oh, that was a good comment.

00:45:43 --> 00:45:44

I read it huge.

00:45:45 --> 00:45:51

She is totally right. I don't know how real these women are even

00:45:51 --> 00:45:54

right? How much airbrushing is going on filtering is going on.

00:45:54 --> 00:45:58

Right? And how much is that messing you up in the head?

00:45:58 --> 00:46:00

whether it's real or not? Doesn't in my opinion, even matter? Yeah.

00:46:00 --> 00:46:03

Because what what is the impact that it's having? On a practical

00:46:03 --> 00:46:07

level? That's, that's significant? Yeah. Let me actually fix this

00:46:07 --> 00:46:09

house, can you get that chair back there?

00:46:10 --> 00:46:15

I'm gonna move this so that you're more centered? There you go. Now,

00:46:15 --> 00:46:17

if I come over here, straight,

00:46:18 --> 00:46:19

much better a

00:46:23 --> 00:46:23

little bit more.

00:46:26 --> 00:46:26

Much better.

00:46:28 --> 00:46:32

So she's 100%. Right about that comment? And I think that might

00:46:32 --> 00:46:34

actually be

00:46:35 --> 00:46:40

the case with men. Yeah, and how many dudes are 10 out of 10? Guys

00:46:40 --> 00:46:44

that are that are shown, you know, in these feeds and commercials and

00:46:44 --> 00:46:48

everything that, you know, that aren't? How does how does that

00:46:48 --> 00:46:52

affect the women? To me? It started with women. Yeah, like

00:46:52 --> 00:46:55

women and commercials and magazines. But now it's guys too.

00:46:55 --> 00:46:57

And I would, I would say the impact I'm not sure which one is

00:46:57 --> 00:47:01

actually more the impact that men seeing women or even men seeing

00:47:01 --> 00:47:04

men and women seeing women or women seeking men. Like, I think

00:47:04 --> 00:47:08

it's very similar in terms of what it's doing. I remember reading

00:47:08 --> 00:47:10

just two days ago that it came out that a lot of these like superhero

00:47:10 --> 00:47:15

actors. They've been taking steroids, but they've been silent

00:47:15 --> 00:47:18

about it. Why? Because it's the same thing that's happening.

00:47:18 --> 00:47:20

People look at it, and they're like, Oh, yes. Something that

00:47:20 --> 00:47:23

we're supposed to be trying to achieve. It's having a pretty

00:47:23 --> 00:47:26

significant impact on them as well. Yeah. And I mean, so you

00:47:26 --> 00:47:29

know, these workout videos where the guy says 20 minutes a day.

00:47:29 --> 00:47:33

Yeah, but that's after, first of all, you two, you're 23 years old,

00:47:33 --> 00:47:36

so you're not getting fat in the first place. Now, second thing is

00:47:36 --> 00:47:40

that you're doing 20 minutes a day, after four years of doing

00:47:40 --> 00:47:43

this eight hours a day. Yeah, right. That was like your whole

00:47:43 --> 00:47:48

life was was, was making sure that not an ounce of fat remains on

00:47:48 --> 00:47:51

you. And now you're trying to sell me 20 minutes a day, right? Let's

00:47:51 --> 00:47:53

see you do 20 minutes a day,

00:47:54 --> 00:48:00

at the age of 45, right, and see what it gets you right. So

00:48:01 --> 00:48:04

now, it's such an issue completely, you know, just takes

00:48:04 --> 00:48:08

away everything. I think it's probably the least talked about

00:48:08 --> 00:48:13

like vise and it's so prevalent and the amount. One of the things

00:48:13 --> 00:48:15

that I've had the opportunity of doing is having conversations with

00:48:15 --> 00:48:18

young people as they're on their journey of getting off of

00:48:18 --> 00:48:22

*. Yeah. And what that does is it literally you don't

00:48:22 --> 00:48:24

recognize someone, someone who couldn't make eye contact with

00:48:24 --> 00:48:27

you, someone who like quite literally their social skills were

00:48:27 --> 00:48:30

completely destroyed. They start regaining their life once this

00:48:30 --> 00:48:33

this this vise that had been on hold on them for so long, starts

00:48:33 --> 00:48:37

disappearing. If we look at simply the new Susan, the texts of the

00:48:37 --> 00:48:41

dean, this is the worst thing. Yeah, like this is worse than fake

00:48:41 --> 00:48:43

profiles. This is worse than

00:48:45 --> 00:48:49

all the dietary stuff that we have like, Okay, our food is terrible,

00:48:49 --> 00:48:52

blah, blah, blah, all that stuff. What else do people talk about?

00:48:53 --> 00:48:56

Right? I think this is the worst thing. Yeah, this will make just

00:48:56 --> 00:49:00

make your boss era your your inner eye just completely shut. Yeah,

00:49:01 --> 00:49:03

it's also linked on a psychological level so much that

00:49:03 --> 00:49:04

you

00:49:05 --> 00:49:08

feel guilty about it, but don't want to represent it with other

00:49:08 --> 00:49:10

people you know, you're doing so you can't draw the constraints a

00:49:10 --> 00:49:13

lot anymore, because maybe this is on your mind. Of course, we know

00:49:13 --> 00:49:17

that anything you consume in any way shape or form is it stays with

00:49:17 --> 00:49:20

you. So like a memory becomes becomes a memory that you might go

00:49:20 --> 00:49:23

back to and then if it's guilted you're hiding it, it already

00:49:23 --> 00:49:26

features is that I hide certain things. The most authentic part of

00:49:26 --> 00:49:30

me is maybe hidden somewhere else. It's got so many different

00:49:30 --> 00:49:33

impacts. And if we get into even on like a neurological level, your

00:49:33 --> 00:49:39

pathways of how you feel accomplishment, which is typically

00:49:39 --> 00:49:41

like endorphins in your mind that are completely shot up because

00:49:42 --> 00:49:46

you're experiencing this in a really perverted way. And then the

00:49:46 --> 00:49:49

other side, it's going to be of oxytocin of connection like

00:49:49 --> 00:49:51

genuine connection when you make eye contact with someone shake

00:49:51 --> 00:49:55

hands with someone that's supposed to feel like it did something but

00:49:55 --> 00:49:59

if you're just experiencing the highest levels of that, now people

00:49:59 --> 00:49:59

hold a tie

00:50:00 --> 00:50:01

Have people? Yeah.

00:50:03 --> 00:50:08

In the old days, even in the 80s and 90s, when I was young, like,

00:50:08 --> 00:50:11

you're home alone, you're bored out of your minds, right? Someone

00:50:11 --> 00:50:15

knocks on the door. It's like huge, humongous, right? Someone

00:50:15 --> 00:50:19

knocks on the door. But now it's like, oh, I can't stand the idea

00:50:19 --> 00:50:22

of a human being there right? Now it's when you text somebody, they

00:50:22 --> 00:50:25

these kids don't even answer back. I stopped texting certain people

00:50:25 --> 00:50:29

under the age of now that maybe under the age of 25, or 20, I

00:50:29 --> 00:50:33

don't even talk to them, right? Because they do not have a concept

00:50:33 --> 00:50:37

that if someone texts you, you text back, right, let alone if you

00:50:37 --> 00:50:39

call, like, they'll never pick up the call, they're thinking like

00:50:39 --> 00:50:43

someone died. I mean, something simple. Like when you had texted

00:50:43 --> 00:50:45

me just a few days ago, like one of the things I really

00:50:45 --> 00:50:47

appreciated, there was an exclamation point at the end of

00:50:47 --> 00:50:50

everything. And it like, it seems, seems like a small thing. But

00:50:50 --> 00:50:53

like, I really appreciated that element of like, oh, there's some

00:50:53 --> 00:50:57

degree of excitement within this. That's why emojis are actually the

00:50:57 --> 00:50:58

most useful invention.

00:50:59 --> 00:51:00

Because actually,

00:51:01 --> 00:51:04

you could you can tell like, you can tell the person that you're

00:51:04 --> 00:51:06

excited, you could tell the person that you're sarcastic.

00:51:07 --> 00:51:10

Or you could just say you could you can send an emoji without any

00:51:10 --> 00:51:14

words, and it tells you what how they're feeling. Right? It makes

00:51:14 --> 00:51:16

me think like there's a nation to the prophets of life that um, that

00:51:16 --> 00:51:19

said that the guest brings with them their own it is yeah, and

00:51:19 --> 00:51:23

happiness is a form of events from Allah. So it's this idea amazing

00:51:23 --> 00:51:26

when someone interacts with you, or they come to you, whether it's

00:51:26 --> 00:51:28

digital or not, there shouldn't be some idea of like, this has been

00:51:28 --> 00:51:31

brought to this is so true. I've never thought about that, that

00:51:31 --> 00:51:34

guests, they bring their own risk. And they bring the risk of

00:51:34 --> 00:51:38

oftentimes, there's some friction in the house. There could be

00:51:38 --> 00:51:42

friction in the house, a guests come in, we all have to smile. But

00:51:42 --> 00:51:44

then afterwards, it turns into something real, it actually

00:51:44 --> 00:51:47

becomes real, unfortunately, to become more presentable, right.

00:51:47 --> 00:51:49

I've had many types of attacks on the dirt low, quick, let's create,

00:51:50 --> 00:51:53

right or pick the toys out there on the floor from the kids. And

00:51:53 --> 00:51:57

there used to be a time where people knocked randomly, like,

00:51:57 --> 00:52:00

there were no phones. So I remember one guy he had a summer

00:52:00 --> 00:52:05

home every time in the summer he would be on the way he wouldn't

00:52:05 --> 00:52:07

tell us he just like I'm on the way there's no way I could just

00:52:07 --> 00:52:10

pass your house it's an hour away. Right? He lives in our way he's

00:52:10 --> 00:52:13

going to summer there's no way I could pass by without coming by.

00:52:13 --> 00:52:17

So he'll come by he'll have tea. Sometimes we'll just we'll take

00:52:17 --> 00:52:20

out the food right? And it was completely random right that was

00:52:20 --> 00:52:24

so exciting right? Because he had kid my age and then he do the same

00:52:24 --> 00:52:26

thing on the way back and sometimes it just go with him

00:52:26 --> 00:52:30

right so all that stuff now it's it's people like they don't like

00:52:31 --> 00:52:33

it because as you said the endorphins have that does not

00:52:33 --> 00:52:38

compare to the endorphins of some something new on the screen. But

00:52:38 --> 00:52:42

what's new on the screen is so useless. It's like alright, likes

00:52:42 --> 00:52:47

a five legs, five followers. But you know that the investment that

00:52:47 --> 00:52:51

that person put into that is nothing. Oh, nice click, that's

00:52:51 --> 00:52:54

the investment. Whereas other human beings they're actually

00:52:54 --> 00:52:58

investing effort, you know, in real life relationships. So that's

00:52:58 --> 00:53:01

the one thing you keep having a lot of messages your muscle they

00:53:01 --> 00:53:02

have a big fan club here.

00:53:05 --> 00:53:12

He's who else you have. Someone is asking for a ride. You take them

00:53:12 --> 00:53:12

to ignite.

00:53:13 --> 00:53:17

Let's see Zhi Shan Qureshi. You take Zhi Shan crazy to

00:53:18 --> 00:53:21

put you on the spot, you have to say yes. Now, let's wait a second.

00:53:21 --> 00:53:24

Is he saying he's probably going with his wife and his kid now? I

00:53:24 --> 00:53:27

haven't played with me. And I'm going a little bit late because I

00:53:27 --> 00:53:30

have to do a wedding on Saturday and then go chocolate is not a

00:53:30 --> 00:53:33

single dude. Anyone who's just got nothing to do. Right? He's got a

00:53:33 --> 00:53:37

wife. He's got his his baby. How old? Is she now? Three? She's six.

00:53:37 --> 00:53:41

She's six. Yeah, she she was three weeks when I moved here. Oh, my

00:53:41 --> 00:53:45

goodness. Yes. kids every year, they get older by one.

00:53:48 --> 00:53:50

measure how long I've been in New Jersey by just looking at it. I'm

00:53:50 --> 00:53:55

like, Oh, I'm that I do that with my, my, one of my girls till she

00:53:55 --> 00:54:00

was born, like to one month after we came. So I just measure her by

00:54:00 --> 00:54:04

that. All right. Have you dealt with a Muslim college student who

00:54:04 --> 00:54:08

wants to come out and change their identity?

00:54:09 --> 00:54:15

Or come out as proud? Or in other words, gay or different gender? Do

00:54:15 --> 00:54:17

we want to go there? I guess we have to go there because it's in

00:54:17 --> 00:54:21

the air. And it's like the only thing the whole world of soccer.

00:54:21 --> 00:54:24

That's true. That's true. This is a question from Solomon. Solomon,

00:54:24 --> 00:54:26

we're going to answer your question, right? Yeah. Yeah. Have

00:54:26 --> 00:54:30

you dealt with that? Yes, I should. So I'll I'll I'll say that

00:54:30 --> 00:54:33

in in a couple of ways. One is Yes, I have dealt with it. But I

00:54:33 --> 00:54:38

think it's overblown to the point where like, so I'm gonna just as

00:54:38 --> 00:54:42

numbers go, I think 100 I've had an opportunity of having about

00:54:42 --> 00:54:48

6000 meetings with students. So 1000 meetings a year, about 1000

00:54:48 --> 00:54:51

meetings a year, so roughly six, five to 600 every semester. If we

00:54:51 --> 00:54:55

if we do the math, personal one to one office hours, one to one

00:54:55 --> 00:54:59

office hours, and in that time, I've probably talked to about 4000

00:54:59 --> 00:54:59

unique students.

00:55:01 --> 00:55:05

And I can tell you that have I had this conversation? Yeah, a handful

00:55:05 --> 00:55:10

of times. So. So what you can remember that I can tell you, I'm

00:55:10 --> 00:55:16

not going to tell you the names because out of 4000 students, you

00:55:16 --> 00:55:20

can actually put in put it right in a list. So that's not a lot.

00:55:20 --> 00:55:23

Your point is that that's not my point is that it's sometimes it's

00:55:23 --> 00:55:28

this gets so overblown in terms of like, it's on everyone's minds,

00:55:28 --> 00:55:30

and like it's affecting every other student or something like

00:55:30 --> 00:55:34

that. It isn't. So that's, that's the one component or it could just

00:55:34 --> 00:55:37

be I have a, I have a very specific group that I'm talking

00:55:37 --> 00:55:40

to. Even if I was to do those corrections, I don't think it's as

00:55:40 --> 00:55:44

prevalent as sometimes like, it's like this, the the end of the

00:55:44 --> 00:55:47

world is coming because of this. So that's one element. Of course,

00:55:47 --> 00:55:52

we do believe there are eschatological kind of links to be

00:55:52 --> 00:55:56

associated here. But that's the one kind of component of like,

00:55:56 --> 00:56:00

that's there. The other part of this is that everyone who wants to

00:56:00 --> 00:56:02

have a conversation about this wants to change the deen in some

00:56:02 --> 00:56:07

way, is the other kind of major, in my opinion, misconception that

00:56:07 --> 00:56:12

if there's a Muslim who's dealing with maybe like, same *

00:56:12 --> 00:56:15

attraction, that this means that they want to make this hello for

00:56:15 --> 00:56:18

them, and they want to change faith and change marriage laws and

00:56:18 --> 00:56:22

make, like, that's not what's happening oftentimes, like, at

00:56:22 --> 00:56:25

least the conversations I've had, the questions are, can I still be

00:56:25 --> 00:56:27

Muslim? Does my prayer still count?

00:56:29 --> 00:56:33

What do I do with this? My family is forcing me to get married. What

00:56:33 --> 00:56:37

do I do now? It's very brash, political. Yeah. It's someone who

00:56:37 --> 00:56:41

is recognizing that this is something that he's not going to

00:56:41 --> 00:56:44

alter his religion with, or he's not going to alter the deen. Or

00:56:44 --> 00:56:48

that they're at that point of I oftentimes see it as Subhanallah

00:56:48 --> 00:56:50

look at the the man that's presented present in front of me

00:56:50 --> 00:56:53

that someone who's dealing with something very, very difficult.

00:56:53 --> 00:56:56

And that's a tribulation that you would never even imagine how

00:56:56 --> 00:56:58

you're going to handle that. Yeah. So I've had a lot that it's it's

00:56:58 --> 00:57:01

it's so difficult, and like there's just pure like beautiful

00:57:01 --> 00:57:04

Iman in front of you. That's that's the one of the ways that I

00:57:04 --> 00:57:08

like I've seen that happen more often than the worst fear that

00:57:08 --> 00:57:10

people have, like, these people are going to come and corrupt and

00:57:10 --> 00:57:14

they're going to do that's what I think that there, there, it's

00:57:14 --> 00:57:19

being pushed out on social media so much, that it's probably, you

00:57:19 --> 00:57:22

know, faker than it actually really is. Yeah. Right? Because

00:57:22 --> 00:57:26

you're on the grounds, right? And Amman, in a sense on the ground

00:57:26 --> 00:57:30

with with some of the teens, like before they go to college, they're

00:57:30 --> 00:57:32

at the masjid, then they disappear. They're hanging out

00:57:32 --> 00:57:35

with you. Right. And I sort of still see some of them.

00:57:36 --> 00:57:40

So I guess, combined, we have a lot of interaction with with the

00:57:40 --> 00:57:45

community. And so you might be right. And I hope that that is the

00:57:45 --> 00:57:50

case that it's more overblown, online, because there are groups

00:57:50 --> 00:57:54

pushing us. Yeah. And I've honestly seen this as well, where

00:57:54 --> 00:57:57

sometimes they'll go to another counselor who like really tells

00:57:57 --> 00:58:02

them really explore this and like, this is your time, live into who

00:58:02 --> 00:58:05

you are. And oftentimes, my conversation will be more along

00:58:05 --> 00:58:09

the lines of like, let's understand this. But like, you

00:58:09 --> 00:58:12

don't have to act. And what I mean by that is like, take your time,

00:58:12 --> 00:58:16

our tradition has always been one of like, don't act hastily. And I

00:58:16 --> 00:58:20

say this specifically here, that's usually my go to is, let's have a

00:58:20 --> 00:58:23

conversation of like, all of the impacts this is going to have on

00:58:23 --> 00:58:27

your life. Yeah. And go through it. And your spiritual life is a

00:58:27 --> 00:58:30

part of it, your family life, your community, that you're a part of

00:58:30 --> 00:58:33

you as a person, the goals that you have, as you start going

00:58:33 --> 00:58:35

through it, the logical answer starts coming through. And our

00:58:35 --> 00:58:39

tradition also approaches this in a very nice and balanced way.

00:58:40 --> 00:58:44

Subhan Allah, I had a couple of calls on this, I remember vividly

00:58:44 --> 00:58:49

that, you know, mbyc, has like an anonymous call, just call in. And

00:58:49 --> 00:58:53

one guy, he had such a tribulation, which is he couldn't

00:58:53 --> 00:58:56

tell his family that he's not attracted to women. Right.

00:58:57 --> 00:59:01

But they want to get married. I mean, what a Columbia that so that

00:59:01 --> 00:59:06

was one guy, another guy. He actually did get married to

00:59:06 --> 00:59:06

another guy.

00:59:07 --> 00:59:12

All right. And it was sort of funny, but not funny at the same

00:59:12 --> 00:59:16

time. Sad at one point, but funny another point. The sad part is

00:59:16 --> 00:59:18

that he's trending. The good part is that he's turning his life

00:59:18 --> 00:59:22

around, right? And he's gonna stop this behavior and you stop

00:59:22 --> 00:59:27

everything. This then he said, but I feel like I'm betraying this guy

00:59:27 --> 00:59:31

because we have an emotional bond. Right? And so he said, I want to

00:59:31 --> 00:59:36

know your advice on how to tattoo I tell this guy, right, who's my

00:59:36 --> 00:59:40

husband needs? Consider like that, because he did get married in that

00:59:40 --> 00:59:42

whatever, civil union or whatever.

00:59:43 --> 00:59:47

And then he said, I want to know how do I perform the tilak? Right?

00:59:48 --> 00:59:50

Do I pronounce to like, once, what do I do?

00:59:54 --> 00:59:56

And he was broke because I said brother wouldn't have been

00:59:56 --> 01:00:00

recognized. If not, you can only it's

01:00:00 --> 01:00:03

Funny in the books of thick, they say they have the head. The love

01:00:03 --> 01:00:09

requires a Mahad means there must be a valid legitimate source or

01:00:09 --> 01:00:13

object that you are divorcing. Yeah. So if you haven't married

01:00:13 --> 01:00:16

yet, you can't have a Tilak if the marriage is invalid,

01:00:17 --> 01:00:20

I've had that same question for someone say, Do I have to do with

01:00:20 --> 01:00:21

the last time my girlfriend? And I'm like, Oh,

01:00:24 --> 01:00:29

this poor guy, I told him, No, you just you can say whatever words

01:00:29 --> 01:00:32

you need to say like, Okay, we're going to separate, we're going to

01:00:32 --> 01:00:35

split up, the city does not require you to have to look,

01:00:35 --> 01:00:39

because it's not a valid marriage in the first place. So I had to

01:00:39 --> 01:00:42

convince him of that. Alright. Secondly, he said, you know, it

01:00:42 --> 01:00:47

was very emotional bond between him and the other dude. And he's

01:00:47 --> 01:00:50

got some and I had to try to be practical about because I've never

01:00:50 --> 01:00:51

experienced this. But I said, Look,

01:00:52 --> 01:00:53

I don't think that

01:00:55 --> 01:00:59

you maybe you're going to, you're going to cut him off in the sense

01:00:59 --> 01:01:01

that you're never going to look at his face again, or talk to him.

01:01:01 --> 01:01:03

Because I don't think that's practical. Either take people to

01:01:03 --> 01:01:06

an opposite end. Yeah, you're selling your tell him to do

01:01:06 --> 01:01:09

something that's really difficult. So I said, Listen, you first thing

01:01:09 --> 01:01:10

is you

01:01:11 --> 01:01:14

get out of the it's not a marriage in the first place. But stop this

01:01:14 --> 01:01:18

behavior. That's the most important thing, right? And then

01:01:18 --> 01:01:20

he was really committed to that. But it was really

01:01:21 --> 01:01:24

a call that I've never had before, because it never had a Muslim who

01:01:24 --> 01:01:26

actually did get married. Yeah, and another guy and said, I'm

01:01:26 --> 01:01:29

making Toba and I'm leaving this thing. I think this is where more

01:01:29 --> 01:01:33

empathy Well, of course, in our tradition, like gentleness, and

01:01:33 --> 01:01:36

it's typically translated, so Rama would probably recognize like

01:01:36 --> 01:01:41

empathy, more empathy, never made the things more problematic. And

01:01:41 --> 01:01:43

what I mean by that is like, it didn't lead to the truth being

01:01:43 --> 01:01:47

less apparent. I think gut reaction, we have this because

01:01:47 --> 01:01:51

we're so oftentimes, like young Muslims, or even Muslim leaders

01:01:51 --> 01:01:54

fall into this, we're so afraid that we're not going to eventually

01:01:54 --> 01:01:58

get to say like the Islamic point on things that we won't be willing

01:01:58 --> 01:02:01

to listen to what's, what someone is going through. And this

01:02:01 --> 01:02:04

oftentimes, when you listen long enough, they know the solution,

01:02:04 --> 01:02:06

you just have to keep them talking. They don't want someone

01:02:06 --> 01:02:10

else to tell them what to do. It's along the lines of why is this so

01:02:10 --> 01:02:13

hard? Well, let's talk through it. Why does this not make sense to

01:02:13 --> 01:02:18

you? Well, let's, let's get into what you're right about, and then

01:02:18 --> 01:02:21

get into maybe there's a logical inconsistency that you've missed

01:02:21 --> 01:02:25

here. And we'll allow people to go through that. I haven't found them

01:02:25 --> 01:02:28

trying to significantly change something or I'm going to leave

01:02:28 --> 01:02:30

the Dean because of this. And oftentimes, we find actually, it's

01:02:30 --> 01:02:35

the opposite of the dean is vaster than he is. And a lot of times, we

01:02:36 --> 01:02:41

maybe rush sometimes to point out the Islamic prohibition something

01:02:41 --> 01:02:44

not for the person, but for the others who are watching. Yeah,

01:02:44 --> 01:02:46

because they're going to be watching, are you going to soften

01:02:46 --> 01:02:51

on this, you're going to be accepted? And sometimes it's

01:02:51 --> 01:02:54

innocently done. Yeah, like a youth is like, a really no need to

01:02:54 --> 01:02:57

know, like, what position is going to take on this right? The youth

01:02:57 --> 01:03:03

Kenton might not necessarily be able to balance the idea that you

01:03:03 --> 01:03:07

may have to not make I mean, I have to say this right now. Like

01:03:07 --> 01:03:10

young people may not realize that, um, when I say youth, I'm talking

01:03:10 --> 01:03:14

about, like, preteens and stuff, because their world is black and

01:03:14 --> 01:03:17

white. If some of the Psalms say It's haram, but you might not want

01:03:17 --> 01:03:20

to say that to a person right away in their in their face, because it

01:03:20 --> 01:03:23

would sort of completely ruin any chance of them.

01:03:24 --> 01:03:28

Changing. Yeah, right. And that's hard for youth to say, Well, why

01:03:28 --> 01:03:28

don't you just say it was?

01:03:30 --> 01:03:34

Because this is gonna sound almost like a cliche, but like, the

01:03:34 --> 01:03:38

journey is as important as the destination that you got to. But

01:03:38 --> 01:03:43

if you people often sometimes don't know what they're actually

01:03:43 --> 01:03:46

saying that we're so slow organized at times that if someone

01:03:46 --> 01:03:49

says this, they don't, they don't mean good for me, or someone

01:03:49 --> 01:03:53

doesn't say this. It's bad for me. There's so lateness tests. Yeah,

01:03:53 --> 01:03:57

they're so into that, again, that label of like, this label is good.

01:03:57 --> 01:03:59

For me, this label is bad for me that they don't authentically

01:03:59 --> 01:04:03

actually get to go through the process of arriving at a decision.

01:04:04 --> 01:04:05

And when you provide that space,

01:04:06 --> 01:04:10

at least in my experience, it's been positive, elegant, Adam says

01:04:15 --> 01:04:18

about watching TV, do you remember when watching TV was a thing?

01:04:19 --> 01:04:24

Yeah, the only reason that you ever need to watch TV anymore is

01:04:24 --> 01:04:27

for sports. Because that has to be done live, right? Yeah, but you

01:04:27 --> 01:04:29

could do it on your phone. And now.

01:04:30 --> 01:04:34

Right, you know, like, it's it goes towards the disappearance of

01:04:34 --> 01:04:37

physical space. Yeah. Where in the past, you know, you have to

01:04:37 --> 01:04:40

actually go home, say you're at work. Now you have to run home

01:04:40 --> 01:04:42

because you want to go home, and you want to switch on the TV

01:04:42 --> 01:04:44

because the game is on because you want to watch the fun. Yeah. But

01:04:44 --> 01:04:48

now you could do it anywhere. So you know, there's no space where

01:04:48 --> 01:04:52

you have to go. There's really a shrinking of that. That's 100%

01:04:52 --> 01:04:57

right, because now I used to rush home to catch something. Let's say

01:04:57 --> 01:04:59

I'm wanting to watch with that's live. Oh,

01:05:00 --> 01:05:03

Oh, but now I don't have to, like I just put it on. I just stream

01:05:03 --> 01:05:08

it. I stream it all from these illegal websites, right? So not,

01:05:08 --> 01:05:12

not all of them are streaming on purpose, right. But they're

01:05:12 --> 01:05:15

getting streamed through these illegal websites, right? My wife

01:05:15 --> 01:05:18

and I had joked about this just a couple of days ago that he used to

01:05:18 --> 01:05:21

have duck club on Saturday morning cartoons. Yeah. Right. And it's

01:05:21 --> 01:05:23

like, why, like, why is that duck? Well, well think about it. We used

01:05:23 --> 01:05:26

to prepare the night before, like, we went to sleep earlier. So we

01:05:26 --> 01:05:30

could get up because it starts at 6am 7am. And then you set

01:05:30 --> 01:05:33

everything out, put the blankets, go there and watch me, my siblings

01:05:33 --> 01:05:37

and watch it together. And we had Dakhla to how we got entertained.

01:05:37 --> 01:05:40

Like we had awareness, prepare preparation awareness. Yeah, those

01:05:40 --> 01:05:45

are the bests those Looney Tunes, right? For four hours or two

01:05:45 --> 01:05:48

hours, I remember. And it was just one day. Yeah. And everyone will

01:05:48 --> 01:05:52

be asleep. Only my mom would be awake. And she would get cereal

01:05:52 --> 01:05:54

and everything. And those are some really fun days.

01:05:56 --> 01:06:00

Also, one thing in the PJs, has to be in the PJs in the family room.

01:06:00 --> 01:06:02

We never haven't experienced that. Because yeah.

01:06:04 --> 01:06:08

Yeah. But one thing is like, to one of the previous points is

01:06:08 --> 01:06:11

that, you know, the idea of forgiveness has gone to, you know,

01:06:11 --> 01:06:15

with this Kancil culture, you know, like, it's just once someone

01:06:15 --> 01:06:17

becomes like a social pariah, if, for example, you know, like the

01:06:17 --> 01:06:22

person that you're describing, you know, they had a gay relationship

01:06:22 --> 01:06:25

and other out of it. Yeah. Now, how difficult is it going to be

01:06:25 --> 01:06:28

for us Muslims, to actually reintegrate them into our society?

01:06:28 --> 01:06:32

I remember in Ramadan, the story that we read over the live stream,

01:06:32 --> 01:06:36

in Barrow demo, like I just can't stop thinking about it. It was a

01:06:36 --> 01:06:40

Schiff, who literally commits Ryda becomes a Christian. And then not

01:06:40 --> 01:06:44

only that, but he comes back, and eventually his students accept

01:06:44 --> 01:06:47

him. And it's announced and his students say, Oh, this, you know,

01:06:47 --> 01:06:50

he was the willie of Allah. What kind of that level of forgiveness

01:06:50 --> 01:06:54

Yeah, soprano. It's just unbelievable. And he marries that

01:06:54 --> 01:06:57

woman, that Christian woman and she's the one who has she has the

01:06:57 --> 01:07:00

vision of Satan Ali, who guides her to Islam, and says Allah will

01:07:00 --> 01:07:04

not. She said, Go to him. Allah will not test you with a worldly

01:07:04 --> 01:07:08

from his Olia. And then why just like, Yeah, this guy's a pretty

01:07:08 --> 01:07:13

well known UFC jurist. Yeah, so he has a solution to the shutdown,

01:07:13 --> 01:07:15

that hasn't been canceled, right, he has not been canceled. And you

01:07:15 --> 01:07:18

know, the canceling must be done by people who don't experience

01:07:18 --> 01:07:21

life, when you experience life, you realize there's not a single

01:07:21 --> 01:07:24

soul that you're going to meet in this world where you're gonna have

01:07:24 --> 01:07:28

an absolute perfect relationship with, there's going to be bumping

01:07:29 --> 01:07:32

of heads, at some point, there's going to be a quality that you

01:07:32 --> 01:07:37

don't like about this person, or a habit or weakness, right? And

01:07:37 --> 01:07:40

guess what you're gonna live with that. And the prophets I said and

01:07:40 --> 01:07:42

said about husbands and wives is that if you don't like something,

01:07:43 --> 01:07:46

you're gonna like something else? Yeah, that's one of the most

01:07:46 --> 01:07:48

practical pieces of advice. So like, if you don't like something

01:07:48 --> 01:07:49

about her,

01:07:50 --> 01:07:53

you will like something else. So focus on what you like. And then

01:07:53 --> 01:07:55

there's an obligation there look for something you like, yeah, look

01:07:55 --> 01:07:58

for what you like. And only look at that, because that thing that

01:07:58 --> 01:08:01

you don't like, it's not going anywhere, right? Whether it's

01:08:01 --> 01:08:05

physical or character. So, likewise, when we deal with the

01:08:05 --> 01:08:11

community, okay, the sects and the cults, they don't understand this

01:08:11 --> 01:08:15

point, the sect in the cult only wants the perfect person who is

01:08:15 --> 01:08:19

exactly what I believe in exactly the way I believe in it. Right.

01:08:19 --> 01:08:23

Whereas, if you look at successful community members, they have a

01:08:23 --> 01:08:27

great tolerance. Right, I noticed two things about successful

01:08:27 --> 01:08:30

community members in Chicago, I'm sure that you've seen people

01:08:30 --> 01:08:35

who've, they're in their 70s. Now, like, they succeeded. They're

01:08:35 --> 01:08:38

giants. They're giant, regardless of where you go, that'll be like,

01:08:39 --> 01:08:42

That's what their title is. Their giant mountains. They're the

01:08:42 --> 01:08:45

foundation, which everything was built on there. They're the people

01:08:45 --> 01:08:51

who are like the backdrop of so many. Now in Chicago, hundreds of

01:08:51 --> 01:08:56

1000s of people there the backdrop right there, like the blue sky. So

01:08:56 --> 01:08:58

those people, I noticed two qualities in that, number one,

01:08:58 --> 01:09:02

they do have a set of principles that they live by that make it

01:09:02 --> 01:09:05

predictable, like, this person is predictable. I know exactly what

01:09:05 --> 01:09:08

this person is going to do. And because he's got these sets of

01:09:08 --> 01:09:11

principles, and they're the right principles, they work for decades,

01:09:12 --> 01:09:15

yeah. Right. They they're able to work for decades, they're able to

01:09:15 --> 01:09:18

marinate and develop and the institution builds on it. At the

01:09:18 --> 01:09:24

same time, they have a tolerance in the sense of there, there's

01:09:24 --> 01:09:26

probably red lines, of course, everyone's got some red lines,

01:09:26 --> 01:09:30

right? But at the same time, there's there are levels of those

01:09:30 --> 01:09:34

red lines. It's not like my way, Big Red Line. No, it's like my

01:09:34 --> 01:09:36

way. There's gonna be a gradation

01:09:38 --> 01:09:43

of light red lines that may be crossed in certain circumstances,

01:09:44 --> 01:09:47

or accepted or we won't say anything. And then finally there's

01:09:47 --> 01:09:51

a big red line. Yeah, they're it's a sophisticated to me. It's a very

01:09:51 --> 01:09:56

sophisticated gradation of what I don't accept. I don't accept it in

01:09:56 --> 01:10:00

this place. Yeah. I don't accept it for myself. makes up

01:10:00 --> 01:10:02

for somebody else, I might not accept it for my family, but I

01:10:02 --> 01:10:06

accept it for someone else. There's a gradation of that. And

01:10:06 --> 01:10:09

because they sometimes I don't think that they make it

01:10:09 --> 01:10:12

themselves, like they may not have even thought about it. Yeah, I

01:10:12 --> 01:10:17

think there was willingness of understanding that even if someone

01:10:17 --> 01:10:20

doesn't have all of those same labels as you do, yeah, for the

01:10:20 --> 01:10:25

task at hand, and for example, if like, if one I remember a doctor

01:10:25 --> 01:10:29

or finance, Mohan was a scholar in Chicago, who passed away a few

01:10:29 --> 01:10:32

years ago, he was like a grandfather to me. And he just

01:10:32 --> 01:10:35

loved talking about Quran. That was, that was his thing. He wrote

01:10:35 --> 01:10:39

a seed of the Quran, like His thing was on. And he worked with

01:10:39 --> 01:10:42

everyone. And everyone had great things to say about him. And he,

01:10:42 --> 01:10:46

I've never heard him criticize an organization, which is odd, even

01:10:46 --> 01:10:50

though like Chicago, my city I love and of course, I grew up

01:10:50 --> 01:10:54

there, I call it Chicago setif. But there's a lot of like, weird

01:10:54 --> 01:10:57

laser beams that are also exist there in terms of like, one

01:10:57 --> 01:11:00

community versus another. But some of the figures that have withstood

01:11:00 --> 01:11:02

the test of time, it's because they don't actually say negative

01:11:02 --> 01:11:06

things. They're just like, just this is gonna help with this on

01:11:06 --> 01:11:08

programs, it's gonna help you this is gonna help here, there seems to

01:11:08 --> 01:11:11

be this understanding that someone doesn't have to be completely like

01:11:11 --> 01:11:14

you in every single thing for you to work on what we're doing a

01:11:14 --> 01:11:16

program, the Quran, we're trying to educate people on the Quran,

01:11:16 --> 01:11:20

like as if we can still get that accomplished. Does that other

01:11:20 --> 01:11:23

element of you matter all that much? No, versus some of the

01:11:23 --> 01:11:26

negative trends is unless they have the same political

01:11:26 --> 01:11:30

affiliation as you the same view on this and this and this is this,

01:11:30 --> 01:11:34

we don't associate with you. Yeah. And I mean, how do you associate

01:11:34 --> 01:11:38

with your family to guarantee like half your uncle's but that's part

01:11:38 --> 01:11:41

of the result, right? Yeah, that cut everyone off, who doesn't

01:11:41 --> 01:11:44

associate exactly cut everyone off. And if I guarantee you those

01:11:44 --> 01:11:47

types of people that you're talking about, they must have big

01:11:47 --> 01:11:50

families, because they've navigated that stuff. In his

01:11:50 --> 01:11:54

family life, when it comes to the communities easy to navigate. It's

01:11:54 --> 01:11:58

easy to navigate this stuff. with strangers, we already navigated it

01:11:59 --> 01:12:03

in the more intimate and sensitive family level. Yeah. So that's the

01:12:03 --> 01:12:08

key word, the the cancel culture is gotta come must be rooted in

01:12:08 --> 01:12:12

very immature people immature when I say mature, I mean, they haven't

01:12:12 --> 01:12:16

really lived with family, or community or whatever. This is a

01:12:16 --> 01:12:19

conversation I have often with college students is they ask the

01:12:19 --> 01:12:22

question of like, our deen says so much about kind of family, but I

01:12:22 --> 01:12:25

have a quote unquote, toxic family, right. And there are some

01:12:25 --> 01:12:28

people who have extreme scenarios, and we should definitely

01:12:28 --> 01:12:31

appreciate what's going on. But I oftentimes have to have this

01:12:31 --> 01:12:34

conversation of like, Allah gave you conditional relationships and

01:12:34 --> 01:12:38

unconditional relationships. And, of course, all of us understand

01:12:38 --> 01:12:40

that conditionals are the ones you choose unconditional. You'd have

01:12:40 --> 01:12:43

you ever chose who your father was, virtually all your brother

01:12:43 --> 01:12:46

was. These are unconditional. But ironically, the unconditional

01:12:46 --> 01:12:49

relationships are the ones that you're going to be judged on more

01:12:49 --> 01:12:54

like, Wait, how? It's like, well, think of us that are there, you're

01:12:54 --> 01:12:56

mandated to have good relationships with these people

01:12:56 --> 01:12:59

like, and then the next conversation is, well, that's not

01:12:59 --> 01:13:03

fair and like, but that's what says who you truly are. Because if

01:13:03 --> 01:13:08

you it's easy to be nice to people who are nice to you you chose. So

01:13:08 --> 01:13:12

like, that isn't of your choices that is gone from that doesn't say

01:13:12 --> 01:13:17

anything about because they were just you chose them and they chose

01:13:17 --> 01:13:21

you. But the people who aren't, do you never get to choose that shows

01:13:21 --> 01:13:24

what your true character so there's the true test of it. And

01:13:24 --> 01:13:26

on the other side, if we had a hypothetical society where you

01:13:26 --> 01:13:28

only had conditional relationships, which

01:13:28 --> 01:13:31

unfortunately, it sounds like we're moving towards it. What then

01:13:31 --> 01:13:34

tends to think about it this way of what would happen, there'd be

01:13:34 --> 01:13:37

one, completely vilified society where no one knows how to treat

01:13:37 --> 01:13:40

each other well, and there'd be another of hypothetically good

01:13:40 --> 01:13:43

people who know how to treat each other. Well, the problem is, first

01:13:43 --> 01:13:46

and foremost, this is going to be a smaller society each time

01:13:46 --> 01:13:49

because people are just going to keep getting kicked out, which we

01:13:49 --> 01:13:53

actually see happening. And on the other side, almost anyone in your

01:13:53 --> 01:13:57

life and in my life, I noticed someone who was admirable, like we

01:13:57 --> 01:14:00

they have really amazing qualities. It's almost always

01:14:00 --> 01:14:01

because someone treated them badly.

01:14:03 --> 01:14:06

Right? Like that was the mechanism for us true that produces

01:14:06 --> 01:14:09

goodness, it produces or allows goodness to shine through and on

01:14:09 --> 01:14:13

the other side. Maybe they used to be bad, but someone treated them

01:14:13 --> 01:14:18

well. And then now they know how to like, you have to have forced

01:14:18 --> 01:14:22

relationships. Our system our whole deen is built on this idea

01:14:22 --> 01:14:24

that there are conditional and unconditional relationships, and

01:14:24 --> 01:14:28

both are valuable and both are necessary for society to succeed.

01:14:28 --> 01:14:31

You cannot run away from your unconditional relationships. If

01:14:31 --> 01:14:36

you do, you might have been the lifeline to get them back. Or they

01:14:36 --> 01:14:39

might be your lifeline to get you back when you need it. Because

01:14:39 --> 01:14:42

it's like one of our ideas of who Allah loves the most is alimony.

01:14:42 --> 01:14:45

Right? So don't who constantly returns back because you look at

01:14:45 --> 01:14:47

someone you're like, I might need you later. So like I can't be rude

01:14:47 --> 01:14:51

to you. Even if you're harmful for me right now, what if you're, you

01:14:51 --> 01:14:55

have guidance for me later on. So it's this idea of like, we

01:14:55 --> 01:14:58

tolerate both or we appreciate both and I would say this is

01:14:58 --> 01:15:00

connected as well like one can

01:15:00 --> 01:15:02

common trend that I see is if people aren't quote unquote good

01:15:02 --> 01:15:04

for you, or they're toxic, get rid of them.

01:15:06 --> 01:15:09

That's, that's gonna lead to a very high risk situation. And that

01:15:09 --> 01:15:12

eventually ends up being people's mindset that I used to be of the

01:15:12 --> 01:15:15

approach of like, oh, that's allowed in certain circumstances

01:15:15 --> 01:15:18

and not in others, and I still kind of am. But unfortunately,

01:15:18 --> 01:15:22

oftentimes how you treat your friends and parts of yourself, you

01:15:22 --> 01:15:25

start treating your family the same way. And that's another major

01:15:25 --> 01:15:28

issue of like, you cut off people. Why? Because in the moment, in the

01:15:28 --> 01:15:31

short term, they're bad for you. Yeah. But that's not to say what

01:15:31 --> 01:15:34

they have in the long term. And that's amazing. Because if you

01:15:34 --> 01:15:38

have, if you end up with a generation that has never been

01:15:38 --> 01:15:44

through the university program of the unconditional relationships,

01:15:44 --> 01:15:47

which you might say, like the obligatory relationships, that you

01:15:47 --> 01:15:50

have to keep, whether you like it or not, they've never been to that

01:15:50 --> 01:15:54

school, those people are not going to be very good. You know, and a

01:15:54 --> 01:15:56

lot of realms, they're going to be hampered.

01:15:57 --> 01:16:00

And what you're saying that this idea of the unconditional

01:16:00 --> 01:16:02

relationship, in a sense, it's more important.

01:16:03 --> 01:16:08

It's almost like saying, What have you achieved? He said, I achieved

01:16:08 --> 01:16:12

a goal, I got a gold medal in this was, oh, well, what was said,

01:16:12 --> 01:16:17

Well, I created for myself a bar. And I achieved it. Yeah, that's

01:16:17 --> 01:16:18

true.

01:16:19 --> 01:16:24

I created a sport, I created all the rules I created, who can play

01:16:24 --> 01:16:27

and who doesn't. And I'm the one who judges and gives out the

01:16:27 --> 01:16:28

award, and I want to write.

01:16:30 --> 01:16:35

So human achievement is when something outside of us is forced

01:16:35 --> 01:16:39

upon us. And we still achieve it. That's the real achievement. So

01:16:40 --> 01:16:45

the the the parents, mother and father, siblings, all those that

01:16:45 --> 01:16:49

test. To me, that's the only one that really matters. Yeah, of

01:16:49 --> 01:16:51

course, everyone's gonna have friends. Friendship is not a test.

01:16:51 --> 01:16:55

It's a joy. Friendship is the reward, right? But this is the

01:16:55 --> 01:16:59

school and the university and the factory and the warzone ethic,

01:16:59 --> 01:17:02

it's a spiritual warzone. You have to put down your anger have to put

01:17:02 --> 01:17:06

down your envy, sibling envies, right, you have to fight. There's

01:17:06 --> 01:17:09

a lot of that. You're going to come out of that. If you succeed.

01:17:09 --> 01:17:13

That's your university. Yeah, that in a sense, it's your to Sophie,

01:17:13 --> 01:17:17

your spiritual University, your parents are also the door to say

01:17:17 --> 01:17:20

the prophets, I said them because your parents are your source. You

01:17:20 --> 01:17:24

know, the first piece of Rama that you feel in the physical world is

01:17:24 --> 01:17:28

through your mom and dad. And if you feel as if this unconditional,

01:17:28 --> 01:17:31

there's something that you can see very apparently, that the mercy

01:17:31 --> 01:17:33

that they have, and if you're blind to that mercy, then what

01:17:33 --> 01:17:37

about the mercy of someone that you've never seen? And by the way,

01:17:37 --> 01:17:40

we keep talking about somebody with parents, parents have to have

01:17:40 --> 01:17:44

someone with kids? How do you know that you they like you, right?

01:17:44 --> 01:17:48

That's very true. And yeah, they may never tell you, but you really

01:17:48 --> 01:17:51

don't know. And sometimes there's maybe it's not parents, maybe it's

01:17:51 --> 01:17:54

uncles and aunts and grandparents. And they're really nice to you and

01:17:54 --> 01:17:57

everything and you hate them. You don't know they may hate you, too.

01:17:58 --> 01:18:00

You're not exactly a basket of fruit yourself. They're having

01:18:00 --> 01:18:04

somebody with you. And how many times have you seen a parent? For

01:18:04 --> 01:18:06

example, maybe his parents were really easy going? That's

01:18:06 --> 01:18:11

terrible, in my opinion, because where's your sub? Yeah, right? The

01:18:11 --> 01:18:15

parent that's so easy going, and this new generation of maybe the

01:18:15 --> 01:18:20

80s 90s, those parents were like, our parents, we're too strict, too

01:18:20 --> 01:18:23

difficult. We're going to be so easy. We're going to be like best

01:18:23 --> 01:18:27

friends with our kids. Your kids have no sub. Right? They have no

01:18:27 --> 01:18:31

patience. Subhanallah whereas other parents, their kids there

01:18:31 --> 01:18:35

are so tough on their kids. That kid if as long as he doesn't

01:18:35 --> 01:18:37

rebel, this will be from odia Allah because Allah says,

01:18:39 --> 01:18:44

in LA, you hit the subsidy. Allah loves the patient. Right? So these

01:18:44 --> 01:18:49

so difficult on his kids, as long as this kid is not a rebel, that's

01:18:49 --> 01:18:54

easily because he's born so much hardship, but that kid is going to

01:18:54 --> 01:18:58

come out. Everything in life is easy in comparison. Yeah, like

01:18:58 --> 01:19:01

every boss, no boss can be difficult in comparison to that no

01:19:01 --> 01:19:07

person can be a pain in comparison to that. And that's why to be a

01:19:07 --> 01:19:11

bit demanding on kids within a certain time, that's reasonable,

01:19:11 --> 01:19:13

and a certain amount that's reasonable. And you push that

01:19:13 --> 01:19:18

limit a little bit. You're doing them a favor, right? And

01:19:18 --> 01:19:21

oftentimes, I see this where how you treat your unconditional

01:19:21 --> 01:19:24

relationships becomes the archetype with which you treat all

01:19:24 --> 01:19:27

of your conditional relationships are Saundra back, I can't make

01:19:27 --> 01:19:31

friends. Yeah. And you ask them, sometimes there's probably a

01:19:31 --> 01:19:33

question. How about your siblings? How are you with their siblings?

01:19:33 --> 01:19:37

Like, I can't stand them like, that might be related. You can cut

01:19:37 --> 01:19:41

off your blood. Yeah. How easily can you cut off everybody else?

01:19:41 --> 01:19:46

Yeah. And if you have no somebody with your mom that gave you birth,

01:19:47 --> 01:19:50

why would you have suffered with anybody else? That's why Guinness

01:19:50 --> 01:19:54

Khan, you know, when he became Jingis Khan, like Genghis Khan was

01:19:54 --> 01:19:58

just he was just he was a slave. He was taken as a slave because

01:19:58 --> 01:19:59

him and his mom and dad were

01:20:00 --> 01:20:06

Traveling, and old enemy came upon them killed the dad kidnapped the

01:20:06 --> 01:20:10

mom as a slave and him as a slave. sticking a slave, he breaks away

01:20:10 --> 01:20:13

at 29. He breaks away and gets his mom.

01:20:14 --> 01:20:18

He goes, finds his older brother. And the three of them now we're

01:20:18 --> 01:20:22

trying to survive. At some point, he makes a little gang for

01:20:22 --> 01:20:26

himself, he gets other people. And there, he's got some charisma. And

01:20:26 --> 01:20:30

he's he's there trying to scrap out a living as a gank, stealing

01:20:30 --> 01:20:34

whatever. At some point, the mom says, Well, this is your older

01:20:34 --> 01:20:38

brother, you have to honor him, right? And you have to follow what

01:20:38 --> 01:20:42

he says. And he has to wait now. I got this like good business going,

01:20:42 --> 01:20:47

I got a gang going. Now my mom's telling me to follow him. This

01:20:47 --> 01:20:52

count this crossroad happens, right? And he's devastated that

01:20:52 --> 01:20:55

his mom says Follow your older brother obey your older brother.

01:20:56 --> 01:20:59

He can't do this. He can't have this. He knows to survive. It's

01:20:59 --> 01:21:02

the gank. Right? So he kills his older brother.

01:21:03 --> 01:21:07

His mom is just absolutely in utter devastation. But she has

01:21:07 --> 01:21:10

nowhere to go, right? Because remember, this is the old days

01:21:10 --> 01:21:15

ancient times where you're surviving day by day. So tell me,

01:21:16 --> 01:21:18

someone who kills his older brother? Is he going to worry

01:21:18 --> 01:21:21

about killing anybody else? Someone who breaks the heart of

01:21:21 --> 01:21:24

his mom and looks at it and watches it and says Tough luck?

01:21:24 --> 01:21:28

This is the way it has to be? Is this guy going to worry about you?

01:21:28 --> 01:21:30

Who's a stranger? Right?

01:21:33 --> 01:21:36

Is this guy gonna worry about his wife's tears? His wife, he marries

01:21:36 --> 01:21:40

a woman. She's crying. Please don't do this. I just saw my mom's

01:21:40 --> 01:21:44

tears. Right. And I I induced that you think I'm going to worry about

01:21:44 --> 01:21:49

you? Right? So once you did that one, did you do anything after

01:21:49 --> 01:21:54

that? So people who who mess up with their moms? How do people

01:21:54 --> 01:21:58

imagine that? They're not going to cut off their wives? Right? I

01:21:58 --> 01:22:01

think the opposite example of that is presented, of course, in the

01:22:01 --> 01:22:04

Quran, in which Ibrahim alayhi salam if we want to talk about

01:22:04 --> 01:22:07

someone who had an abusive father, right? If I even I saw him like

01:22:07 --> 01:22:10

his father. This conversation with him is Oh, my father, I think

01:22:10 --> 01:22:12

you're doing something wrong. His father responds, I'm going to

01:22:12 --> 01:22:16

stone you. Yeah. And then. Anyway, Sam says, yeah, yeah. Brunette.

01:22:16 --> 01:22:19

Yeah. My father who I love so much. Oh, no. Yeah, buddy. My

01:22:19 --> 01:22:21

apologies. Yeah, but the my father who I love so much the ideas of

01:22:21 --> 01:22:25

like, of closeness. And he goes, I will leave because you have asked

01:22:25 --> 01:22:27

me to, but I will never stop thinking do that for you. Right,

01:22:27 --> 01:22:29

that's like, you're going to be nice to that you're going to be

01:22:29 --> 01:22:33

nice to everybody else with a point that right afterward, Alaska

01:22:33 --> 01:22:35

says well, but she doesn't know who people and I'm in Haiti. And

01:22:35 --> 01:22:39

we gave him the glad tidings of of a awesome child like a forbearing

01:22:39 --> 01:22:42

child. And the next idea is when he got to the age when he was

01:22:42 --> 01:22:46

running with his child, the reason I think that's the opposite

01:22:46 --> 01:22:49

example to this is one of the terms that's typically found

01:22:49 --> 01:22:53

within psychology is that trauma is hereditary. This idea that like

01:22:53 --> 01:22:56

someone who's been traumatized from, they typically pass it on to

01:22:56 --> 01:22:59

someone else. And there's even genetic, there's even actual

01:22:59 --> 01:23:02

evidence of like, it actually ends up in your jeans in terms of like

01:23:02 --> 01:23:05

epigenetically, it can turn on certain things that pass on, but

01:23:05 --> 01:23:07

that's not what they're referring to. They're talking about the more

01:23:07 --> 01:23:10

sociological element. Yeah. But when you look at it, it might some

01:23:10 --> 01:23:14

story. You're like, he has an amazing relationship with his

01:23:14 --> 01:23:17

child to the point where this is the example of when he says to us,

01:23:17 --> 01:23:21

I'm like, fun. They're mad at that. What do you think about it?

01:23:21 --> 01:23:23

What do you think I should do after he has a dream? But it does.

01:23:23 --> 01:23:26

I mean, this is a beautiful relationship to him and his son.

01:23:26 --> 01:23:28

How does that happen? Well, it happens because if he makes time

01:23:28 --> 01:23:32

didn't reciprocate, yeah, he didn't reciprocate the negative

01:23:32 --> 01:23:35

thing that his father did. What does he do instead? I will never

01:23:35 --> 01:23:39

stop asking for a lot of forgive you. And because of that, what

01:23:39 --> 01:23:44

happens? The chain of this trauma gets cut its cut. Because of his

01:23:44 --> 01:23:48

good treatment, he wasn't willing to let it go. Let it affect him.

01:23:48 --> 01:23:52

He didn't internalize. Yeah, so that's why he it seems to be that

01:23:52 --> 01:23:55

he has an amazing relationship, of course, with this Ashton Ismaila

01:23:55 --> 01:23:59

is to the point where he's not he doesn't pass trauma on to them.

01:23:59 --> 01:24:02

Yeah, that's how you cut it off is by not responding. I think it's

01:24:02 --> 01:24:06

also you cut it off by saying, your treatment of me will not be

01:24:06 --> 01:24:09

how I treat you, I'm going to become a monster, it'll I will

01:24:09 --> 01:24:12

treat you because Allah wants me to treat you a certain way. You

01:24:12 --> 01:24:16

know, you've given the power back to Allah shikigami. He said that

01:24:16 --> 01:24:21

from his years of teaching the inmates, what he realized is that

01:24:21 --> 01:24:25

for the vast majority of them, the best thing that he could

01:24:25 --> 01:24:29

completely transform these people on is teach studying digital

01:24:29 --> 01:24:33

validate, Subhan Allah so if you can go back and rectify that

01:24:33 --> 01:24:37

relationship, everything else will follow. By necessity, because

01:24:37 --> 01:24:40

that's the hardest one, right? Weirdly enough.

01:24:41 --> 01:24:45

With students, this is going to be like a major thing that I see over

01:24:45 --> 01:24:48

and over again is those that have outsourced their respective

01:24:48 --> 01:24:51

parents to someone else. Amongst the most corrective things that

01:24:51 --> 01:24:56

can be done is reintroduce it. We introduced respect this idea of

01:24:56 --> 01:25:00

like what I should be doing and disconnecting it from its be

01:25:00 --> 01:25:03

because of what they did for you, yeah. Because I think that's, we

01:25:03 --> 01:25:07

have this reciprocity mindset of like you only do things for people

01:25:07 --> 01:25:11

who do good things for you. No, you don't. Because fundamentally

01:25:11 --> 01:25:14

when we even think about like, why do you worship Allah spelled out?

01:25:14 --> 01:25:15

Yes. And because Allah has done so much because because Allah is

01:25:15 --> 01:25:20

Allah subhanaw taala That's it. That's it, that's at the end of

01:25:20 --> 01:25:23

it, that will also take you to who Allah has placed in your life. Why

01:25:23 --> 01:25:26

do you treat them the way you do? Because Allah placed them for you

01:25:26 --> 01:25:29

in that way. Once you take that away, it's like your primary

01:25:29 --> 01:25:32

relationship is your relationship with Allah dictates how you treat

01:25:32 --> 01:25:36

the people around you. That starts at home. Oftentimes, once that

01:25:36 --> 01:25:38

gets corrected, it actually corrects a lot of the other even

01:25:38 --> 01:25:43

like, my ideas that I have, what why my life should be headed, how

01:25:43 --> 01:25:45

I should prioritize friendships, how should do they all start kind

01:25:45 --> 01:25:48

of falling into place? I actually really like when Hamza Yusuf

01:25:48 --> 01:25:53

always says this. Sheikh Hamza always says that what he doesn't

01:25:53 --> 01:25:57

see in the Islamic world, and its people usually don't take it from

01:25:57 --> 01:26:00

him because he lives in a very comfortable life. And he's talking

01:26:00 --> 01:26:03

about oppressed people. But that doesn't mean he might not be

01:26:03 --> 01:26:05

saying something. Right. Right.

01:26:06 --> 01:26:10

Which is that when we deal with an oppressor, we're not dealing with

01:26:10 --> 01:26:10

Allah.

01:26:12 --> 01:26:15

Like, when you deal with your oppressor, you should be dealing

01:26:15 --> 01:26:19

with Allah in the sense that how does Allah want me to handle this?

01:26:20 --> 01:26:23

All right, yes, I might have to fight back. Should he says fight.

01:26:23 --> 01:26:28

But should he also says so? Judea also says this oppressor is not

01:26:28 --> 01:26:32

doing anything outside of Allah's will. This is happening because

01:26:32 --> 01:26:35

Allah is allowing it to happen now. And why would Allah allow

01:26:35 --> 01:26:38

this to happen to teach me a lesson? So the mom and that's why

01:26:38 --> 01:26:41

you're never going to actually succeed against an oppressor. If

01:26:41 --> 01:26:44

you think that you're dealing with the oppressor. You've given him

01:26:44 --> 01:26:48

way more attention than he deserves. This oppressor is merely

01:26:48 --> 01:26:52

a tool of Allah to a force of nature. Why did Allah allow this

01:26:52 --> 01:26:55

oppressor is no different than hurricane? Right? Yeah. Okay.

01:26:55 --> 01:26:58

Yeah, except that he has a moral thing. And he may be hated. You

01:26:58 --> 01:27:02

don't hate a hurricane, right? Because that's something we know

01:27:02 --> 01:27:04

that has no will have its own. Yes, he has a will of its own, but

01:27:04 --> 01:27:06

it doesn't make a difference. How is that going to improve your

01:27:06 --> 01:27:09

situation? Interact with a lot through this and what you said

01:27:09 --> 01:27:13

about saying it, but uh, he he cut it? Yeah. The trauma by

01:27:13 --> 01:27:16

interacting with Allah not interacting with his father.

01:27:16 --> 01:27:20

That's exact same point. SubhanAllah? I think two things on

01:27:20 --> 01:27:21

that. And one is,

01:27:22 --> 01:27:26

I think one of the confusions that we oftentimes have is that that

01:27:26 --> 01:27:29

same thing of like, something gets set up at a collective level

01:27:29 --> 01:27:31

versus the individual level, I think what's being spoken to is

01:27:31 --> 01:27:34

like, where's your heart attached to and you're presenting this as

01:27:35 --> 01:27:37

too much of a defining quality, because I think that's what Jay

01:27:37 --> 01:27:41

Hamza does really, really well, he hits you at your core. And that's

01:27:41 --> 01:27:45

like, your, the core problem isn't that we're not organized in

01:27:45 --> 01:27:47

overthrowing the presses. The core problem is like we've led to

01:27:47 --> 01:27:50

getting here at the individual level. So that's one. But the

01:27:50 --> 01:27:51

other side of that is

01:27:52 --> 01:27:55

it makes me think of the story of Villa data and who and when, of

01:27:55 --> 01:27:59

course, all of us have heard this but he when he gets dragged into

01:27:59 --> 01:28:03

into desert chest, the rock is placed on his chest. The one thing

01:28:03 --> 01:28:06

that an oppressor wants, it's a presser wants two things, they

01:28:06 --> 01:28:08

either want you to submit to them, because that's exactly what they

01:28:08 --> 01:28:12

asked for. Or they want you to challenge them. Because when you

01:28:12 --> 01:28:17

challenge them what happens? You've admitted their power. Yes,

01:28:17 --> 01:28:20

Patil. But what does he do in the middle? Yeah, what does he do? He

01:28:20 --> 01:28:24

says, I heard that he gives power to something else, to to Allah.

01:28:25 --> 01:28:28

that infuriates me because I have no idea what to do at that point.

01:28:29 --> 01:28:31

Because there's nothing that can be done. You can't do anything

01:28:31 --> 01:28:32

with it. And that's why he just sold them.

01:28:34 --> 01:28:37

I can't achieve my goal here. So we accepted money for him. Because

01:28:37 --> 01:28:40

if you want to fight back, yeah, look, that's sure if you would

01:28:40 --> 01:28:43

have submitted, of course, like put me at the center of your

01:28:43 --> 01:28:46

energy and your attention. That's what I love about. There's a line

01:28:47 --> 01:28:50

that the Christians say about Jesus, that what do you say now

01:28:50 --> 01:28:50

that we've

01:28:52 --> 01:28:56

got you on the cross? And he said, I say simply that God has given

01:28:56 --> 01:28:57

you power over me, right?

01:28:58 --> 01:29:03

So it's almost like, not denying reality, but introducing a new

01:29:03 --> 01:29:06

reality. Yeah, right. And of course, we probably don't have

01:29:06 --> 01:29:10

that thing. But it still makes sense. God has given you the power

01:29:10 --> 01:29:13

over me. And that's beautiful. Because at the end of the day,

01:29:13 --> 01:29:14

what is it Allah?

01:29:15 --> 01:29:18

That Allah is no greater? Because it wasn't you? It was a lot at the

01:29:18 --> 01:29:21

end of the day. Let's take some comments and questions here. The

01:29:21 --> 01:29:24

city font choice is a two way street. Women as well are getting

01:29:24 --> 01:29:28

more attention from men than they would have ever gotten before,

01:29:28 --> 01:29:29

which is true.

01:29:31 --> 01:29:36

Muslim said You once said that Allah's Anger is not like human a

01:29:36 --> 01:29:40

human reaction. Yes, we are reacted by shock because we're

01:29:40 --> 01:29:44

ignorant. So if you poke me, I'm shocked because I didn't know it

01:29:44 --> 01:29:47

was coming and I could be injured. It defies your expectations defies

01:29:47 --> 01:29:51

expectations. Allah has he's Haleem nothing you do is shocking

01:29:51 --> 01:29:54

to him. He already knows what you're going to do, and you cannot

01:29:54 --> 01:29:56

harm him. Whereas we can be harmed, right.

01:29:58 --> 01:29:59

My question is this then

01:30:00 --> 01:30:03

Why is it set in the Hadith? The charity cools down the anger of

01:30:03 --> 01:30:07

Allah, it means the punishment that you are earning cools down.

01:30:07 --> 01:30:11

Yeah. Right. The punishment that love of Allah is his punishment.

01:30:11 --> 01:30:15

Right? So that punishment that you're earning by sins, charity

01:30:15 --> 01:30:19

will cool that punishment. Your I believe that were the United

01:30:19 --> 01:30:22

States is right now and it has a number of punishments raining on

01:30:22 --> 01:30:26

it. Why do I say punishments not social problems, when there's no

01:30:26 --> 01:30:31

solution to a problem, that's a punishment. There is no solution

01:30:31 --> 01:30:35

to the shootings that are happening in terms of making a

01:30:35 --> 01:30:38

law, right? There's no secular solution to this. There's only a

01:30:38 --> 01:30:42

spiritual solution to this right. The people shooting now you're

01:30:42 --> 01:30:46

gonna have one side saying take away guns? Would you want to be

01:30:47 --> 01:30:51

any less practical? How many guns are there? The 300 million 400

01:30:51 --> 01:30:54

million, something like that there are more guns than people. Right?

01:30:54 --> 01:30:57

For sure. Right? There's probably more guns in the country of

01:30:57 --> 01:31:01

people. So you're not taking them away from people? All right,

01:31:01 --> 01:31:05

you're gonna start issuing them less. So do don't do think that

01:31:05 --> 01:31:09

there's like a black market where people will acquire them legally.

01:31:09 --> 01:31:13

And then it's just a solution. It's a complete nut. It's a

01:31:13 --> 01:31:17

BandAid on a huge, massive gash. So I'm going to work. So when I

01:31:17 --> 01:31:21

see that there's no actual solution, right that they can

01:31:21 --> 01:31:25

have. Because we would say the real solution is spirituality,

01:31:25 --> 01:31:30

even from community even outside of Islam. Just their spiritual

01:31:30 --> 01:31:31

healing of sit with your family.

01:31:32 --> 01:31:37

Go to church make friends. Go to church make friends have pets, you

01:31:37 --> 01:31:39

one of the you know, the wisdom of pets is

01:31:40 --> 01:31:44

definitely your drama with it with with a bird with a rabbit with a

01:31:44 --> 01:31:46

cat. If you have ramen with that, why don't you definitely have a

01:31:46 --> 01:31:50

lot more with a boy, child? And that's also why on the opposite

01:31:50 --> 01:31:53

end, someone who's cruel in those situations, it's directly linked.

01:31:53 --> 01:31:57

I always say that the cruelty to animals, right? If you're cruel to

01:31:57 --> 01:32:01

that little vulnerable creature, something's really terribly wrong

01:32:01 --> 01:32:05

inside. Yeah. And why do you think that becomes important? That

01:32:05 --> 01:32:07

doesn't mean they shouldn't have it? It's actually that becomes a

01:32:07 --> 01:32:11

safety net? You you actually are able to opine that someone has

01:32:11 --> 01:32:15

something developmentally wrong that that might happen. Because

01:32:15 --> 01:32:19

they were able to do lesser harm. Of course, we value the lives of

01:32:19 --> 01:32:24

these little creatures we do but I'd much rather have someone do

01:32:24 --> 01:32:28

something terrible to I love cats dunno and but like to that then do

01:32:28 --> 01:32:31

something terrible to a person. What it also when you when you're

01:32:31 --> 01:32:34

interacting with animals, and you see that it's the warning sign in

01:32:34 --> 01:32:37

advance. Like, the only thing that you have to experiment with is

01:32:37 --> 01:32:40

humans know you have animals are there. So that if you behaving

01:32:40 --> 01:32:44

like that, the teacher says, Oh, like this couldn't eat up. That's

01:32:44 --> 01:32:46

exactly what it even was like, people shouldn't have this is

01:32:46 --> 01:32:49

where it even goes out to the social media side of things.

01:32:49 --> 01:32:49

Because

01:32:51 --> 01:32:56

people sometimes need to say dumb things without it having massive

01:32:56 --> 01:32:59

consequences so that we can see the problem is Yeah, so like, say

01:32:59 --> 01:33:02

it in like a family gathering a group of friends and people like,

01:33:02 --> 01:33:03

dude,

01:33:05 --> 01:33:09

how many times every kid has gone through this? If you have enough

01:33:09 --> 01:33:12

dinners with your dad, right? Your dad will tell you listen, I'm

01:33:12 --> 01:33:14

gonna tell you this so that no one outside tells you that.

01:33:20 --> 01:33:22

Now these Besakih don't have that. Yeah.

01:33:23 --> 01:33:26

And then it has a massive social consequence. And they will put out

01:33:26 --> 01:33:30

something or, but that's the value and the benefit of these of having

01:33:30 --> 01:33:33

a family. Yeah, is that somebody could tell you that, right? And

01:33:33 --> 01:33:37

the other end it continues, right? Because you're really close

01:33:37 --> 01:33:40

friends who are a little bit older than you. And I love the idea of

01:33:40 --> 01:33:43

having a gradation of age groups, right? So one of the things we

01:33:43 --> 01:33:46

always try to do here is we always try to have a gradation like when

01:33:46 --> 01:33:49

we go out to lunch, it's not a youth lunch at 10 to 60. That's

01:33:49 --> 01:33:53

sometimes it's set to 60. It is a lot a lot like there are some guys

01:33:53 --> 01:33:56

who are looking at retirement, other guys are looking at high

01:33:56 --> 01:34:01

school, right? So but the benefit of that small gathering is that

01:34:01 --> 01:34:04

somebody say you can really care about each other, and bring a

01:34:04 --> 01:34:07

different perspective to the person in a way that is not

01:34:07 --> 01:34:10

damaging, where he can say, Listen, by the way, don't say

01:34:10 --> 01:34:14

this, right? Again, you're actually not right about this is

01:34:14 --> 01:34:17

really gonna upset a lot of people. So it may have that may

01:34:17 --> 01:34:24

upset you, in front of five people for five minutes. But he saved you

01:34:24 --> 01:34:27

so much more. It's something that if your dad couldn't get

01:34:27 --> 01:34:29

everything because sometimes people are muted in front of the

01:34:29 --> 01:34:32

dads well in your social friend group. If

01:34:34 --> 01:34:37

you get roasted sometimes right, what are you gonna roast and you

01:34:37 --> 01:34:38

need to

01:34:39 --> 01:34:43

get your take that criticism you appreciate it wrote? The idea of

01:34:43 --> 01:34:46

roasting each other is something that is very important, I think

01:34:46 --> 01:34:48

for males, because what you're doing is you're hardening his

01:34:48 --> 01:34:52

skill is getting a little bit, right. As long as it's healthy,

01:34:52 --> 01:34:55

right? If it's healthy, and there's a lot of love in it, but

01:34:55 --> 01:34:59

it's in a joking way, right? It's hardening the person's metals. I'm

01:34:59 --> 01:35:00

gonna have to

01:35:00 --> 01:35:02

until the brother social group that said Rutgers but

01:35:03 --> 01:35:05

let's see if I can get your approval on this you know how like

01:35:05 --> 01:35:08

Zach got that to grow one of the forms of growth is to burn

01:35:08 --> 01:35:11

something right like you burn crops or the edges of plants in

01:35:11 --> 01:35:14

order to make them grow more. So the brothers roast should be

01:35:14 --> 01:35:16

called this Kia

01:35:19 --> 01:35:22

you know that Forest fires are the best thing for forests. It takes

01:35:22 --> 01:35:25

out all the weak and the old plants. And it makes and those

01:35:25 --> 01:35:29

ashes are really good for new plants. I wish I could stay

01:35:29 --> 01:35:32

longer. But today's pick up day for me I gotta pick up but let's

01:35:32 --> 01:35:33

look at some real quick

01:35:35 --> 01:35:39

things if anyone has anything to say, we have a brother from Uganda

01:35:39 --> 01:35:46

Subhan Allah, Dr. Ed. Not Idi Amin, Dr. Ed from Uganda is saying

01:35:46 --> 01:35:49

As salam o alaikum. So everybody can go and get

01:35:52 --> 01:35:56

L Tiger did cheat to take us to Texas and the Texas Tiger I guess

01:35:56 --> 01:36:00

his name is he says Quran says he was never crucified. Yes, we're

01:36:00 --> 01:36:04

saying that that's just a story. Right? That they say about him the

01:36:04 --> 01:36:09

line is true. it not true that he said it. But it's an excellent

01:36:09 --> 01:36:13

meaning then I'm only in this position because God gave you

01:36:13 --> 01:36:17

power over me. And that's what you're lucky folk. ADM is also

01:36:17 --> 01:36:19

part of oppressors. The Hand of Allah is over their hands. It's

01:36:19 --> 01:36:21

not theirs. It's Sufi bear. Right?

01:36:23 --> 01:36:28

We can go for oppressors, right? That yes, he's punishing you yet

01:36:28 --> 01:36:30

to life. Okay, do and don't think for a moment Allah is not in

01:36:30 --> 01:36:34

charge of this. So start examining the wisdoms right of it. So that's

01:36:34 --> 01:36:35

on

01:36:36 --> 01:36:40

YouTube, let's quick Instagram that we moved to our Da. And then

01:36:40 --> 01:36:42

I really wish we could. But now that you're local and the

01:36:42 --> 01:36:46

summertime, you can come regularly. Because you really

01:36:46 --> 01:36:49

bring a great perspective on what's happening on the campuses

01:36:49 --> 01:36:50

and how you've dealt with it over

01:36:51 --> 01:36:55

years is going to be far better than a textbook, trying to read a

01:36:55 --> 01:36:56

summer program and

01:36:57 --> 01:37:00

part time program, because you don't like them. It's not like

01:37:00 --> 01:37:03

separate from Dawa 100%. Yeah, that's our goal, inshallah to make

01:37:03 --> 01:37:07

everything integrated. Yeah, weeknights, we have here started

01:37:07 --> 01:37:11

our pre pilot program of our mad, right, like a column Institute's

01:37:11 --> 01:37:14

everything. Yeah. And the differentiator is that, like, I

01:37:14 --> 01:37:18

had the message I teach, usually using English text preparatory, we

01:37:18 --> 01:37:20

actually do get pretty deep into things. But it's always from a

01:37:20 --> 01:37:22

preparatory angle here.

01:37:24 --> 01:37:28

They use where you're using all Arabic texts, so that students can

01:37:28 --> 01:37:32

learn, you know, the Arabic stuff, these texts and learn these texts,

01:37:32 --> 01:37:35

if they ever continue on, they actually know the Arabic tenor.

01:37:36 --> 01:37:38

It's the lens with which you can look through things. So

01:37:38 --> 01:37:41

oftentimes, that becomes the most important takeaway from studying a

01:37:41 --> 01:37:45

text of what it's done to your language. So the language and S

01:37:45 --> 01:37:48

says, What do you do when you feel like it's painful to just make dua

01:37:48 --> 01:37:50

when you've made dua and nothing changes?

01:37:51 --> 01:37:56

I would say that we cannot forget that do not require something

01:37:57 --> 01:38:01

that matters requires sub and anything that you want that has

01:38:01 --> 01:38:05

value in life, it requires patience. So I would just say, you

01:38:05 --> 01:38:12

know, just continue to be patient. Okay. JJ says alpha males versus

01:38:12 --> 01:38:13

Simps.

01:38:14 --> 01:38:18

That's, that's only used on certain Twitter and people who

01:38:18 --> 01:38:23

like to, you know, talk about that a lot. And we in Islam have a

01:38:23 --> 01:38:27

whole nother concept of masculinity, then, you know, this,

01:38:27 --> 01:38:31

that worlds model is so much more complicated. And it's about

01:38:31 --> 01:38:34

dignity at the end of the day, and dignity falls under both

01:38:34 --> 01:38:38

categories. Yeah. What What if the thing that you don't like in your

01:38:38 --> 01:38:42

spouse is their addiction to *? Well, that's a that's

01:38:42 --> 01:38:46

a unique that requires counseling at that point. I think that is an

01:38:46 --> 01:38:49

individual answer. That's why it's sometimes the one who suffers it

01:38:49 --> 01:38:52

as Abu Hanifa is the best judge of it. That's what I'm behind the

01:38:52 --> 01:38:55

facade about certain things. But they provide for you and they

01:38:55 --> 01:38:59

provide for your children. It's mostly but it's really, really

01:38:59 --> 01:39:02

difficult and tough situation. So I can't I don't have an answer to

01:39:02 --> 01:39:05

that. One. It's something that you have to judge. Yeah. The one thing

01:39:05 --> 01:39:09

I would put on there is it the cards are stacked against people.

01:39:09 --> 01:39:13

And I think that needs to be appreciated that this is a vise

01:39:13 --> 01:39:18

that everything in society is forcing it to happen. The norm is

01:39:18 --> 01:39:21

for people to be affected by it, rather than to not be affected by

01:39:21 --> 01:39:23

it. So there is the degree of kind of understanding that happens and

01:39:23 --> 01:39:27

then trying to be part of the solution, rather than just saying,

01:39:28 --> 01:39:32

Just meet me when it's over. Being involved some way but I would say

01:39:32 --> 01:39:35

reach out to a counselor of some sort of both parties can go that

01:39:35 --> 01:39:37

would probably be the best approach. And you're also talking

01:39:37 --> 01:39:40

about how when we talk about everyone being different, I mean,

01:39:40 --> 01:39:46

we're talking about some people may have grown up on a facade.

01:39:47 --> 01:39:52

Sins is in the peripheral vision of you have grown up and wholesome

01:39:52 --> 01:39:55

parents are in the peripheral vision. So the shock element is

01:39:55 --> 01:39:58

going to be different. That's why one of the wisdoms when Allah says

01:39:58 --> 01:39:59

was Zuni

01:40:00 --> 01:40:04

Lengow Eliza and it is that the adulterous marriage adultery? What

01:40:04 --> 01:40:08

does that mean? It means that the one of that lifestyle will have a

01:40:08 --> 01:40:11

successful marriage with someone who understands that lifestyle. If

01:40:11 --> 01:40:15

you both had that bad lifestyle in the past, you will get along. It

01:40:15 --> 01:40:18

doesn't necessarily mean as many people think if you ever committed

01:40:18 --> 01:40:20

sin and you can only marry a woman who ever committed Zina, no, it

01:40:20 --> 01:40:24

means a woman have that way of living. She should marry a man

01:40:24 --> 01:40:28

have that way of living. Right? Because when you fall or falter,

01:40:28 --> 01:40:31

or the habits that you have, you're you know this right?

01:40:31 --> 01:40:34

Whereas a woman he could bring her out of a monastery, right? And

01:40:34 --> 01:40:40

marry her to a gun came out of the club. Right? Her an error for her.

01:40:41 --> 01:40:44

The bars here Yeah, and for him, it's here. They're not gonna get

01:40:44 --> 01:40:47

along. So that's why in that question is you have to look at

01:40:47 --> 01:40:51

your youth, or is this something that you're accustomed to? I know

01:40:51 --> 01:40:55

probably some women who they grew up in such a clean and sheltered

01:40:55 --> 01:40:57

in a good way environment.

01:40:58 --> 01:41:02

One witnessing not addiction one time he's she sees that she's

01:41:02 --> 01:41:05

packing her bags and leaving, right? This is not something she's

01:41:05 --> 01:41:09

accustomed to. But likewise, same thing you some people when it

01:41:09 --> 01:41:14

comes to weapons and guns, right? A gun in the house, big deal other

01:41:14 --> 01:41:18

people's like on the kitchen drawer under the table.

01:41:19 --> 01:41:23

So it depends where you what you came out of right. So let's now

01:41:23 --> 01:41:27

shift to our job. Now before we wrap up, we'll take a break.

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We'll just do it straight because I have to unfortunately, I started

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laying came late, but if you want to set up you can set up though.

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Yeah, so inshallah we'll just read from his bed, Nasir. And then

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we'll do a two minute silent door afterwards. And we do this because

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every Wednesday between Dora and acid is a moment of each other

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according to Jeb and Abdullah because the prophets I sent him

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had made dua at the conquest of Mecca. Sorry for conduct and Allah

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Tala answered him on Wednesday. So jabber said he always looked for

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Wednesday for the time of dua.

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and P will hamdulillahi rabbil Alameen Allah haram about the

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individual da.

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Muhammad wa ala Leu Sammy Sam Subhanallah be caramelized Satyam

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thank you for coming in Sharla

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