Shadee Elmasry – NBF 235 Shaykh Amin Kholwadia Interview
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Amin chef Amin Welcome to the SOFIA society podcast.
Salaam aleikum wa
rahmatullah Sheikh Amin is originally from
the subcontinent and travel and study there extensively. Before
moving to England, he studied the classical
men hedge of Hanafi FIP and met at the Arcada. And he studied the
Arabic language, of course, studied Hadith and studied all of
the sciences that any scholar would be expected to have studied
yet he excelled. And around by the age of 22, and 23, he was
excelling past his peers and completing the curriculum. Check
before we get to your shift to England, I want to ask you about
something that's mentioned here in your biography regarding the
Theosophical initiation in to the Ecuadorian school. This may be
terminology that some people are not aware of. And so if you can
kindly inform us what exactly
does that mean? What exactly does it mean that the esophageal
initiation and what is exactly the UK body in school?
Yeah, the Aquarian school is named after Shaka Akbar.
He has his own methodology and understanding the Sman suffered
and would you say he has on 30, carbs bigger and
exercises, meditation, etc. So that's the school. And theosophy
is, you know, when you adopt the school, in the sense that you want
to worship Allah in a good way in a better way. And that is where I
think the focus on the Salic is ibadah. And drawing closer to
Allah, the Sonics focus is always Hola. Sonic is not at all worried
about the mundane affairs of the world.
His passion is to serve a lot. Please Allah worship Allah in and
then infuse it in his daily life. So that's what we mean by the
theosophy.
Yeah. Is it a spiritual practice? Or is it a school a branch of
Arpita
I suppose there's a lot of post Calum Aqeedah and his post Golan
he doesn't really care too much for the Konami, you know,
dialectics, but he does care for the, on the Aqeedah you have Allah
Who is Allah, how does he operate, etc. So it is a lot of posts of
Edo post Aqeedah and there are some Aska there's a lot of Dausa
has,
that as car that he he prescribes in history a car mainly is mainly
an offshoot of the Cordelia Silsila. But it's distinct in
terms of
his understanding of Allah, Allah's names and SIFAT. And
that's what the Sadek does and he understands a lot goes into a
discussion of Allah, how you see Allah, how does Allah manifest
himself and so on, is quite comprehensive.
Do the traditional SSID or metro DD scholars do they
take issue with any ideas in the Cambodian school? And if so, what
are some of their points of conflict? I mean, some of them are
very vicious against the chef. They don't like him. Some of them
condemn him as a Garfield and but that's fine everybody to his own,
I guess, is it because of February issues or
issues is about who Jude is about existence who exists. And, you
know, if not to be through his very articulate, you know,
expression of existence.
He comes to a mahkamah station where only Allah exists,
and nothing else. So he is a spiritual state.
The people who Calamy and then don't get me wrong, I love the
color traditionally t shirt here. They seem to miss the boat.
He's not talking to the multicolored. Yeah, he's talking
to the Salic. It's a different language is a different code. It's
a different science. So that's why people get confused, because in so
many places, he does say that Allah is separate from his
creation. There's no audio recorded. Hello, there's no
incarnation is and there are separate.
How could How can we? How can we in Allah,
it doesn't matter how low Allah comes, he's still the hub. It
doesn't matter how high the hug goes up, it is still
it makes it very clear. And people are confused, because they seem to
read all of his works in the Columbia tradition. And we mean,
people who study if not, I mean, we know he's not talking to the
mother column. He's talking specifically to the person who has
entered into saloon, and he's talking to them in their language.
So you have to separate the two languages. If you don't, you'll be
confused. And definitely you end up saying, Oh, maybe he's just a
heretic, you know?
So So, we've got really condemned people who don't understand him.
They're lazy. They don't want them to learn the language of the show.
And basically, that's the bottom line, but we're okay. We're okay
with that. Tell me about the discussion on his manuscripts and
the transmission of his manuscripts. And if those
manuscripts have any deaths, or alteration, whether it be
accidental or intentional, some people speak about his stepson, as
somebody who had added and subtracted from his stepfathers,
from hypnotic these manuscripts. So could you talk to us a little
bit about about that, and that? I think sometimes it's an
accusation, but sometimes also more of an explanation away
explaining away some of the
problematic statements that automat find in those manuscripts.
Yeah, I mean, that's a good insight, whether or not because in
those days, there they were, manuscripts written by hand and
ink
is very easy when you transcribe, to miss a word, Miss A phrase, or
even rephrase some phrases, which would be as you say, an
interpretation.
And anything else if the hurry if
the idea that in certain places is being, you know, messed with mud
susu that I don't buy that I think that's a cop out, I think you
should explain what the man is saying, Don't run away from it.
In terms of academic integrity, and honesty, if you disagree, just
say you disagree, don't hide the fact that he said it. And that
will be their true scholarship. So there are places that certain
people say in facilisis, Mazouz, altered and changed and
I think you take it on face value, and explain it through his
methodology through his philosophy, then you Okay, so
you're not running away from a problem. You're trying to explain
what the shark actually means. Once you explain it, then it's not
a problem.
But there might be certain places definitely where alterations were
common
in those days now, even with the printing press, there are so many
mistakes, the printing press made, as you know,
and they have printed a whole set of Quran. The Turks, they're all
wrong. Every page has mistakes. Subhan Allah
the Quran says that they had to get
in Egypt
They noticed that the Quran copy after the printing press was
invented, they had to go by hand, and right over
hundreds of words Subhanallah because now the testimony to the
hips, and the memory of those scholars that there's no wrong,
it's all it doesn't match up to the auto standard. So it was quite
common for people to, you know, miss, right, Miss transcribe,
but on the whole, we know what his positions are on the whole, so we
would know that this is
distorted or not let's then if it being the case that his works have
been transmitted accurately, more or less accurately without much
tenancies or, or alteration.
Let me ask about a specific foot I issue. And that is his statement.
Or let me say the statement that
Elena will eventually experience a bliss of their fire. Is that an
accurate understanding of his statement? And how does it how did
the scholars understand this is 99% accurate? But he says that
occasionally, they will be, you know, brought out from the the
alum the pain, and they will taste a certain leather and a Luba he
pulls a dooba from that sweetness, then they'll go back to the pain.
And that is for the purpose of understanding how do people
survive in eternity with this amount of pain. So he wants to
give it a kind of justification by saying that there are people in
the world who are masochist.
They enjoy pain.
So he's an alumna that basically masochist. So for a brief moment,
a temporary relief will be that they enjoy the punishment. But he
doesn't say that they'll exit the fire. Yes, nor does He say that
the fire will be extinguished. He says fall in either feet.
And that's as far as the nurse goes, and you can you can't
question him for that. He does say they'll live there forever. What
he says is that if you want to understand the process of a
climatization, how'd you acclimatized yourself in the fun,
and he remained there forever. So that's what he's trying to do. But
he does make that statement, but it's not permanent, meaning maybe
might be a few moments, a few seconds, and then this happens,
and then they go back to feeling the pain. So it's like he's the
literal semantics of hermeneutics of Leo, who
they may taste the other oven. That is some other but yeah, so
he's he makes that hermeneutical kind of connection. And that's it
that we heal, which may be not in line with the the
Sunnah, at least the majority of them, but it's in line with the
words it's in line with the hermeneutics.
Okay, that doesn't change. He says that there forever. So in that
case, it's a speculation from on his part on how is it that someone
will, will or can survive that long in that much pain? More so
then it is a, as you said earlier, a statement of doctrine, just a
speculation on how someone would survive that long. Okay. And as he
says that, they're not going to be experiencing bliss, as a state as
a normal state, nor will they be outside of the fire. So in that
respect, there is no negation of any of the major elements of or
the known model elements of op ed in that. Yeah, definitely not. I
think, you know, for those who might want to justify the
permanent
existence in the farmer, it might help them
it might just help them so there are many animals who enjoy pain
and different fields.
And animals in the world. They live and survive they're born in
filth. Subhanallah Well, we we know that people in this life
may be addicts, or maybe otherwise, are actually choosing
actions that results in pain willingly with their own freewill.
self destructive behavior is something that people do engage
in.
Maybe if you go with his major philosophy that they actually
choose, you know, their way of life. They choose their lifestyle
and it is through their own volition that they want to be like
this. Yeah.
The Quran mentions that will oral route do the rd will be my new
who? Andrew. If they will return these people who are enjoying
them, they will do exactly the same thing.
They repeat their lifestyle and their lives. Yeah. So it's not
totally you know, when you're going into radical, but there's a
sense of a common sense that I think Yeah. Okay. Now, let's take
a drastic shift. Because in England, you studied a completely
different ms edge science or study, which is Islamic finance.
Right now we shift from matters of the heart and of mysticism to the
nitty gritty of dollars and cents and dinars in their homes.
Could you speak a bit about your research into Islamic finance?
What exactly were you examining, and if anything came out of it in
terms of a product in the marketplace?
Well, then the I was part of a group that we're writing
a book on Islamic finance, what it is what it could be. So that's how
that book came about, I was assigned the first chapter in that
book, and we got to know and learn from each other about Islamic
finance and their transactions, the moussaka Mudaraba, what have
you.
So I think the thrust was on examining the, you know, the
English system, and comparing it to a kind of suggested Islamic
system and trying to, you know, get the best out of both worlds if
there is such a thing. And that was, you know, through the studies
in fifth,
we had studied as a god quite comprehensively, and Hamdulillah.
And, you know, and there are a lot of, you know, you have Kitab, W or
Ijarah, and all of those wonderful books in fear that we have. And
then, on top of that, you have this
on your own shot trying to,
you know, plug in a square
peg into a round hole, which the tracks are different. So, our
conclusion is that you really can't merge the two,
the Western track is very different from the Muslim track,
the gauge is very different than the train, and that compartment
won't fit on those tracks. So you'd have to redo all the tracks.
And what we were trying to do is trying to help Muslims understand
that the basic knowledge that we have of Islamic transactions, this
is this is it.
Now, I don't know what what happened in terms of it was used
in colleges in England, the book,
to teach people introduction to Islamic finance, and so on. But at
the same time, when you kind of moved on from that, and we do
other things here in this country, and trying to be more creative.
You can't put an Islamic label on a Western instrument. Yeah.
That's just false. So we disagree with that approach. There are
other approaches we have, in terms of trying to understand the
difference between the hunter ban listener, which I thought it was
such a genius,
you know, understanding of the Hanafis, especially
Geneva came up with it, and his students, and then they took that
there is a difference in the way you live
Islamic transactions, are they you know, part of your federal aid? Or
is it basically up to the Wali and the hacking, how he rules and
governs and because he has the July authority to tell people this
is wrong, this is
you owe him this, you're in Europe, UK, US, where if if you
have a dispute about an Islamic transaction, transaction, you
can't take that to the judge in the US know anything about Islamic
transactions, you're you're compromising. So,
you are you are lost, because you have to go with the law of the
land if he says this. Now, the law of the land may be very
contradictory to Islamic law.
So it becomes very, very confusing for the for the consumer. So
that's why there's a new theory or not a new theory or an old theory
which needs to be revived and say we must acknowledge in theory,
that the two systems are very different.
are they compatible? A few of the moral? Yeah, I don't think ideas,
they're compatible and they overlap. But how would you
regulate this transaction and this transaction that needs a new
system? A system of Islamic finance in digital health,
basically. So that's what we're trying to create. Now, Donald
classes.
When you mentioned Donald Trump in the Hanafi.
Tradition and definition, can you give us
the criterion of a land being called Donald how many people
imagined base based upon the terminology that there actually is
a battle taking place? So is that does that translate in the
hanifin? Framework? Yeah, that's a very naive translation. And people
because they don't know if the terminologies are filled. They
translate everything literally.
They're very amateurish, it means nothing like that, that is very
simple idea. And that is that in the land where Islamic law cannot
be implemented willingly,
that is,
simple as that contrast is just between when the law of the land
is supreme, or the law of Islam is supreme, where the law of Islam is
compromised, and the law of the land is supreme. That's the I
don't have sound definition. Okay, nothing to do with warfare. So,
now, when people ask about buying homes these days, there are some
products out there in the marketplace where the contract on
its face is a murabaha contract, which is basically the
organization comes in, buys the house, and cash sells it to you at
a profit and you could buy it out over time. So it's has three
parts. It's not a money lending contract, but it's to its buyers,
and money for a product. So on its face, it's a valid contract. And
of course, as we know, within a few months, that contract itself
will be sold bundled up and sold by the purported Islamic mortgage
company, in a, an unlawful sale of a whole bunch of debts to another
company, you then get a letter in the mail saying that you're paying
ABC mortgage company, this much money, and here's the interest,
okay? So I tell people that you're not responsible for what they do
with the contract afterwards, you're responsible for what you
purchased and what you signed. And that sort of gets a Muslim over a
hurdle. And at least he's signed a contract that was valid, what they
did with it was their issue. But so setting aside the pragmatics
and the day to day life of a regular Muslim who bought wants to
buy a house at a higher level, it seems to me that you are
completely unsatisfied with the way that Muslims have tackled or
developed response within the contemporary modern framework of
debt base of a debt based economy and an interest based economy.
Now, you also said that you're working at solutions to this at
total cost. And can you share some of the foundational principles of
that solution? And how would it trickle down pragmatically into
the everyday life of a Muslim?
Yeah, that's a loaded question.
Why is it a trillion dollar industry?
It's everything. Yeah. You gave me a trillion dollars to answer.
Yeah. No, oh, yeah. Hey, we respect Muslims emotions, that
they want to do everything.
Now that much of a great value that you want to stay away from
sin.
We don't discount the ideas or the intentions and emotions we say
this is wonderful. This should be the way that we believe and the
way we feel there's no doubt in that
is tenable law here of SMU about right? Under STAY AWAY FROM SIN at
every level.
The issue is, you know,
it's
a transaction. And then there's another transaction. So your
transaction facilitates the second transaction,
which is you've been underwritten by Fannie Mae or something.
It does facilitate it.
The Quran says the r1 or other derivative, cooperates with virtue
and Taqwa don't cooperate in sin. So here's their cooperation their
surfaces
Are You There is in terms of just very legal terms in terms of
writing the contract there is. So it will absolve you because you're
no longer responsible for whatever they do with your money.
That's a separate transaction. So that much makes sense that you
could do that. But at the end of the day, my biggest concern is, is
it consumer friendly?
When you offer somebody a product, there has to be a satisfaction
with the product.
This is America, consumers always right.
So what I would want people to do is find maybe a better way, a more
refined way to bring the product into the market and have a bit
more consumer satisfaction, reviewed,
researched,
and then taken into account. And then obviously, the rates that the
Halal industry charges to the consumer, then kind of exorbitant
was is another common
complaint that people have.
So we're trying to find that through the, you know, the
classical scholars, which I said that there's not a new ruling,
there's an old ruling, which makes perfectly legal sense because it's
coherent. And that is based on an example. Give you an example, that
we have an Islamic law of SOS.
Can we execute because ours here in this country,
by ourselves, and we can't know? Why? Because it's the government's
prerogative. If they want capital punishment, and they want to
execute someone, then you have the constitutional prerogative to do
what they want to do if the state allows it.
Or maybe the Feds want to do something. The federal government
allows it, then they have their prerogative legal problem. We as
Muslims can't say that the Quran wants us to execute precise,
albeit as a penal code who doesn't matter which code it belongs to.
So in that case, our scholars would all agree that the sauce is
exempt
for Muslims in this country, no scholar will say that you take him
back to Dar Al Islam and executed, correct. Yep. No one was correct.
Yeah. Every scholar is forced to say that in the matter of
executing, implementing exhausts, Muslims are forgiven and
exonerated from that hokum.
Correct. So that's one example where Daru Coover makes a
difference in the hokum correct.
Now, let's apply this to other ACCA.
Maybe it doesn't apply to Serbia? No, because we don't need
government prerogative to do Serbia. Yes. Does it apply to
Nica? No, because we don't need government intervention to do
that. Correct? Would it apply to divorce?
Maybe? In some cases? Yes. Some cases? No. So what do we do about
those areas in divorce, where we cannot implement Islamic law?
You're gonna have to be creative and think of a theory which is
consistent with the theory of disaster, that we will be exempt.
And scholars say no, we're not exempt from applying the divorce
laws in this country either. Which will follow the law as much as we
can. But, you know, again, we're still exploring,
because it becomes a huge, huge
problem for most of them divorced women who are left bereft.
And they don't have too much to go on. If you implement the Islamic
Sharia law. Now, this is a contingency, maybe it's a masiva.
Maybe you have to be patient, whatever it is that you want to
call them. At the end of the day, they are Muslims are suffering,
and they don't seem to like the idea of implementing Islamic
divorce laws.
So there again, what do the scholars say? How do we overcome
those problems? Because we have to fix the problem. You have to help
Muslims. Yes. What about Islamic law is about how helping the
destitute woman on the street. What are you going to do for her?
Some people say that the society communities
look where that's got us nutshell.
immunity does diddly squat for anyone.
So that does work because you can't mandate that or the Muslim
communities or the parents or
The brothers and sisters have it the lady she's divorced. And she's
cornered.
She has a father and a mother. She has no brothers sister, she has no
relatives that are Muslim, why would they do anything for?
And so on. So there's a whole bunch of questions. I'm not
suggesting for a moment that you change the Islamic law.
I'm not subscribing to the I'm saying that you need to find a
consistent theory, which helps them benefits Muslims sometimes
compromise. And so that's another area where you might find that
Islamic law is not going to be implementable. It certainly might
be implementable 90% or 95%. But that still gives you you know,
some room to think about legally how you're going to think about
this.
And then obviously, you can extend it to other rules other in Islam,
like you know Riba.
So is riba something where Muslims will be exempt and, and then
Muslim non,
you know, saying, Okay, remember definitely is wrong. The theory of
rebar versus the hokum of rebar, they're very different. So we
subscribe to the idea that young, a lot of rebar will be set apart
at a universal level, where no doubt and the idea of you know
taking money because you're lending money is atrocious. It is
almost inhuman. So we agree with that, all of that. But here's a
contingency. Now the contingency is that what level? And what
amount of Islam? Can I practice in the harbor? So they will sue you?
Some of them? If not, most of them say we're not allowed to live in
Daraa? Indefinitely?
That's the answer.
To be reasonable, because you're supposed to practice Islam
completely. Yes. Cool. Have you seen the gaffer? No.
Okay, so what do you do now, with all these 789 10 million Muslims
in the USA? What do you do? Where do you ship them to? Wherever you
ship them to? There's no Islam there either.
So it's a catch 22. What I'm calling the Allah MA and scholars
to think about are the ramifications and the
repercussions of forcing the issue and saying that these issues still
remain haram, which they do, if you can ascertain. It is a you
know, what do you call it an executive decision made by the
move these slides move things of this country? We do need a
solution.
We don't have a solution is very, very frustrating. Yeah. So we are
challenged, the Aloma would challenge and, you know, there are
some issues there. You know, Abu Hanifa actually says that the
Rebbe by the Muslim will have if he doesn't have
a hadith that he has from McCalls and know that Moodle Hadith, but
he's come to a theory. And this is why the cases and there's an
academia in terms of developing a legal theory, you have to be
consistent and coherent.
Otherwise, it's not a theory. And legal juris is Mangusta. He knew
the legal theorist, and they think the level of theory and then
implemented. So if the theory is coherent, consistent, then you can
do this. And it will be valid. And I believe that it seems that Abu
Hanifa has theory that it actually is not rebar.
So he's not legalizing rebar. He's saying it's not rebar in the first
place.
You understand? Yes. And I was saying is halal or haram is saying
there's no hook on it.
It's a transaction that is not seen as a transaction in the
world.
So that's why some people go to him, Abu Hanifa and I think some
other orlimar like Qaradawi Shefali. Juma two, three Allamah
from the subcontinent and Turkey. Most of them they also arrived to
this idea that Abu Hanifa as opinion would be the best option
for Muslims in the West. And that is in taking and giving. Yeah,
okay. Now, the way forward with these matters always begins at the
level of what you said is a coherent theory that gets a buy in
from the scholarly class or the intellectual class enough to
inform policies of organizations, companies, etc. And then something
trickles down and it becomes a reality of life. Yeah.
This is a great way to enter now
into another discussion on your think tank, which is, I would say
it's partially a think tank and partially a college. Right? DOD
will cost him. It's a place where these ideas are being examined.
And these ideas are being flushed out. And so let's now go from that
to the discussion on Donald Qassam and you founded it in 1998. With
only a few students.
And now you have a full fledged
school, which offers a I would say a master's right now.
We've gotten their accreditation
license to run as a college. And your your the, the the building
here is quite impressive. It looks like an entire campus. The bill,
I've never been to Donald Qasim. So I don't know what where
where the classes take place. But it looks here that you have
this looks to me as if it's a big campus. So did you acquire a new
building? We haven't moved into it yet. We will also within the next
month we'll be moving into it. Was it a former college? It was it was
purpose built college? Yes. It was, you know, a satellite campus
for Northern Illinois University. Okay. And they will operate you
from there for many years. But because of COVID, they had to
close down and they had to quickly sell the building. So we now we
push the building. Okay, that's wonderful. That's excellent. So
now, are you headed towards full accreditation? Yes, in terms of
being able to offer a master's in Islamic law, Islamic theology.
Okay. And let's talk about that discussion. Because a lot of
people in the field, they tend to have, there's two ways to go about
it in the Arabic world. They call these my head Elia, which is like,
just a local education institute that is not accredited by any
accreditation organization. And then you have the official gemmy,
ATS, the official colleges that are accredited. So what are the
pros and cons of both? Let's start with the local institutes, let's
say down the road from you, you have data set up, which I would
say is a look, it's an institute, they're not seeking accreditation.
So what are the pros and cons of getting accredited or not getting
credit.
The pros are you can you can operate as a martial madrasa you
can operate as a seminary, people don't need to be at a certain
standard. And you can graduate people the way you see fit. And it
does interest people who want to follow the the oral tradition. And
you get so many more subscribers, I think, from the community to
that model. And it works. I mean, it's the model we had in you know,
India, Pakistan, Bangladesh, it basically only, as you say, the
local communities and you can you can produce, you know, good
orlimar, but scholars from them, what it doesn't allow you to do,
which a licensed college allows, that's,
I wouldn't say as a negative, but it does require you to do a few
more things. As a college if we wrote an article as a college in
the US, and then it will be accessed by almost everybody in
the US in academia, because now your college, you have the title
of a college, I write an article on resource, and everybody in the
US academic system will be able to see it at least and read it.
Whereas you could not do that with a mother's article.
You wouldn't have that credibility in mainstream. So that's one of
the reasons we went after this. We want it to be exposed in
mainstream, which is one of the purpose of our closet, which we
can talk about if you want.
And then you know, the cons is that you might get students who
come just for the degree and not for the knowledge.
So that's a trade off. That sounds like it covers everything, but I
want to ask about the devotional element, a lot of times the non
accredited schools, they place a lot of emphasis on the devotional
side of the dean. In other words, they have a lot of sessions of DUA
and a bed and these types of things.
Holding that the accredited schools
tend to not have that aspect. Do you think that's true?
I mean, it could be true. Depends on the program you run. Even as an
accredited school, we have, you know, complete prerogative to do
what we want to do. If you want people to be just devoted and read
some, no offense to us. I mean, that's really up to us what we
want to do. But here's the thing. I think the primary concern for a
student of knowledge I thought it should be in. Yes, yes. If he does
nothing, instead of studying, then that's when the shaytaan it's all
do but always said that you should study you should not be doing
Dicker when you're supposed to be study, somehow. And that was that
that was that UCLA, and the ALMA Durban marshana. There were
scholars, they were academics. Some of them were geniuses, and,
but they also have their own individual regiment in Baghdad and
something so we want to allow our students to decide for themselves,
which way they want to go. So we're not going to force the
issue, then for either for either they're going to do them anyway.
And then a lot of people we do encourage, no doubt, and we do
have sessions for them. Know that but it's up to the individual
you're fighting. You have to remember what's the backdrop here.
backdrop is the US where there's nothing except for atheism,
agnosticism, there's nothing except, you know, there's you
know, I wasn't gonna
post deconstructionism
where it's just a feeling
just a feeling there are no rules, no boundaries. So we're housing
those students. They are the contexts Yes. They're not products
of the mothers and then they come in, oh, nice and polished and they
have Taco.
They come in very roll.
And if you want to mashallah give them some discipline, then you
have to make sure that their focus is learning. They do the fluoride,
and they take care of themselves, they stay away from haram. That
is, I think enough Taqwa everything else is totally
natural, it is good, it is wonderful if you can do it, but
not at the expense of scholarship.
The Nuffield should not replace scholarship they shouldn't be more
dedicated to knowledge and learning and teaching and debating
than they are at this moment
to doing the no offense so that's our model.
Okay, very good and Donald custom right now is going to offer a
master's and right now you offer
courses that go for about four years is that right? That's not
the intermediate level. Yeah, and where we stop at a level which is
implemented either way by the muggles
and then we have two year extra in Hadith studies. We do the Hadith
and we have one year for the completion which will be the
masters year. Okay, so that's up to seven years, up seven years
program, okay. And that is full time or part time. Not full time,
full time, masha Allah. Now,
when we talk about knowledge and scholarship, every nation has
every Muslim nation has a Mufti and has adopted if
non Muslim nations also are Muslims and non Muslim nations
also need and have developed federal councils. And it seems to
me that the federal Council's of every non Muslim
country, most of the home outside the Islamic countries, it seems to
be whoever established at first, right? That's all the criterion
was that you establish it and you called yourself the Federal
Council first. So you have federal councils in England, in Europe and
in America that are
somewhat some in some, in many respects, almost modernist in
their approaches, or that you could say
it's a swimming pool, and not set and define or Sue.
Could you talk to us about the need for federal Council's you
want your assessment of current federal Council's
there Fitow, or they're also more importantly, their methodology?
And do we need a Federal Council that is rooted in the in the form
of that and with a clear will so
well, Donald Clawson has done Lifta as you know, we have a data
lifter where we have you know, four or five movies sitting in
questions that people ask and it's running very well not run off
So there, we don't have a problem with that methodology is very
strictly Hanafy. Sometimes we do go outside the mother, but if
there's a very, very dire need, our methodology is purely Hanafy.
And we train our muftis that way, as far as the national councils. I
think they could honestly they need to know the form of I'm
saying but when they say the former that they must have someone
who is an expert in each month have
they read books from other modalities and then incorporated
No, there has to be a human being, like Mamelukes
system where they had called is that Hanafy call the shopping
quality monitoring call the humbler quality and they weighed
in one square, and you could go to any one of them if you're from
that mother, something similar akin to that, but I would want the
council to be very robust. In terms of its scholarship, this one
person was a scholar in Maliki 100. They are genuine they
qualified, they do show a sense of Taqwa themselves, in their
behavior, in their mannerisms, etc. So that is something that I
think would be useful for the US. Yeah.
is useful. There's a place where you have scholarship in action.
And it's not just based on you know, there's Deadhorse.
Aurora,
Aurora,
but we waited until it became a dirt road, right? Yeah. You can't
use as well. So that's all so yes, it is. Yeah. Yeah.
And we see in how the recently, one of the first times that Imams
and scholars got together in mass, and puts out a statement. Of
course, I'm talking about the Navigating different statement,
many said it was late. But nonetheless, it was one of the
first times that you had
so many
dot and scholars and Imams sign off on something, and it had a
tremendous impact, even when it was late, nonetheless, it had a
massive impact. And there's a lot of evidence for that impact. Okay,
I'm still on their chat. And they're constantly posting
articles citing their statement, and how masajid have altered
policies, organization have altered their policies, based upon
just that one, seeing all these names, they trusted the statement
and they acted upon it. So there's a lot of power when that many
Imams come together. Now, this happened privately by once elder
scholar going around and collecting maybe about 50 or 40 or
50 names, and then they opened it up after that. But don't you think
that we need something like this that's almost like an official
body? That is producing such statements on matters of
difference with it or on matters that should not have any
differences of opinion within Islam?
For for the regular folk and for the masajid to rely upon? Don't we
need something like that as a permanent body?
I mean, a national body, there definitely is a need and the only
question will be, you know, from those who are not so pro
orthodoxy.
People will complain that you're creating an orthodoxy which may
not be in the best interest of American progressive Muslims.
Who wants to subscribe to an orthodoxy when we have freedom of
religion, freedom, freedom whatsoever. So that's the only I
think, you know, negative, if it is an attitude, which I don't
think it is that you might face if you did propose such an idea.
The issue that is what is what you said you hit the right mark, and I
think that's it. So it must be an HMI issue. It must be an issue eg
Ma. Everybody agrees with the conclusion, correct? Definitely.
That should be the case where we have a group of Allamah if there's
an Asian Maori issue, then we will say it is my consensus and this is
the Muslim position. So that's fine. We can do that. Underneath
each other so many speculative ideas. I wouldn't want this body
to just say okay, because we agree, it is most certain it is,
you know, good for the community. And therefore we will endorse it
or not endorse it the guiding that takes away.
So for all those listening and it's Mary issue means rig
Are arts, a text from the Quran, or whatsoever that hadith upon
which there is no difference in its meaning, and there is no room
to have an opinion about it. Opinions will regard the Gnosis
that have speculation, or they their transmission is up for
discussion, the nature of its transmission. And so an HMI issue
is something that no two Muslims can have a discussion about, or
debate. Now, let's move to the last subject of today's interview.
And I thank you so much for your time, I know that you wrote you
run a mile ahead in a school and a college. And this takes a lot of
time. So we're very thankful for that. The last subject is
something else that you are an expert in. And that regards the
spiritual science of dream interpretation. Can you tell us In
what respect is dream interpretation, a knowledge and In
what respect? Is it a gift that Allah gives to somebody? Are there
thought websites or established principles in this field?
The Dream Interpretation mashallah comes from the Quran there are so
many dreams in the Quran,
sunnah used to France, you know, is very famous. In this story of a
with a B.
There's a mention of a dream of the prophets, Allah. So then
there's the old here, Ibrahim Alayhi. Salam is mine. So there
are definitely landmarks, I think, in terms of knowledge and the
prophets. And also there was old sunnah was that he would ask
people, if they had any dreams after fajr. If they did, then he
would interpret them. And if they didn't, he would say I had this
dream, and he would interpret them and sometimes Ubercart would come
and say, may I interpret this dream for you? And so yes, it's
definitely a science, it's definitely a knowledge that needs
to be
revived, is almost dead. But there are definitely rules and
regulations that the Sahaba knew. And they handed it down mostly to
ethnicity, ethnicity and as you know, Tommy gray scholar is the
Imam of dream interpretation. And he had dictated many who sold to
his students and then later on other Korean came and they've
written books on the law, but also the rules and regulations of dream
interpretation. And they categorize them according to the
names of things a smell or shear basically.
So you know, you'll have the animal kingdom you'll have the
vegetable kingdom, you'll have the what you call it land animals, the
animals, you'll have food and you have clothing and you have parts
of the body you have relatives, different types of relatives mean
this is that and once it is very well organized in the largest
scholars, they have kept it alive and we should definitely keep it
alive and can it be studied? Yes, but you need a certain amount of
Malacca.
Dexterity in the Arabic language you need to know the dreams of the
Quran, Hadith, you need to know the stories of the Quran and
Hadith. And you need the language, you need both the language of the
context you need the language of Arabic has so many dreams has come
out from the word in Arabic.
Some rules
it develops through soccer, but
you can't learn it in college.
But you still need Sahaba you'd have to sit with somebody who does
dream interpretation and he'll give you the nuances because
there's so in one entry for a dream perhaps like milk, you might
find five now applications it can be this, this and that. So the
Alim was with you will say in this case, it means this in this case
is it's a lot of creativity there. And it just changed people's
lives.
You give the wrong interface interpretation. God forbid, guys
life is done.
The Hadith of the Prophet sallallahu alayhi wa salam, the
dream is on the wings of a bird. If it falls, or if it is
interpreted it falls means it happens. Does it mean if it is
interpreted correctly? It will happen or does it mean any
interpretation of it will happen? Well, if it's a false
interpretation, it won't happen. Okay. So the wheat here or the
understanding here is that tuck do is that if it is interpreted
correctly, if the obit beats
as much as possible, we don't recall exactness in within the
realm within the target then it will happen then it will happen.
And what is the level of yucky
In, let's take a hypothetical a person has a dream, a veteran
dream interpreter, or even two or three, some people, they take
their dream to two and three and four interpreters to see where the
Tafseer lines up. First of all, the first question, Is that a
correct practice? And number two? Secondly, let us say in the
hypothetical, they all interpret something, such as an event that
would happen to the person, what level of certainty would that
individual now have in that event occurring? Is it Kathy? Is, is it
still funny? Is it certain? Or is it still speculative? Maybe? Do
they have a belief? Or is it a maybe? Yeah, I mean, I mean, in
the dream itself in London, it is speculative. He can't assume is
why he's not why. Correct. He does assume as well, he didn't last a
bit. As I said, You can't do that.
And the interpretation then is also done the it's not the
interpreter may make a mistake, which is fine and he will be
rewarded for the mistake he makes if if he is qualified, basically.
Thirdly, in the amount of trust he must put in the interpretation is
really up to you.
Individual that there's no orthodox statement, which says you
must believe in the interpretation is really up to you.
Firstly, you have to make a choice based on your choice, not based on
the interpretation. So there's no Amazon Yo yo, the macula
interpreter is not the macula you are responsible to do what you
need to do. The guide was THE INTERPRETER It is guiding you this
way or this way. So you're still responsible action. That's why the
many people make a mistake. They stopped blaming the dream and
interpreting direct and what about this concept of asking three and
four and five to ensure that the meaning is sound and not one of
them has not aired in his fatwah or in his interpretation?
Dream Interpretation hopping,
not a good practice, okay. If you know somebody in the community
stick with that person, because it will give you some consistency.
The reason for that is that that person knows you. Yes. Now, would
we say then that the the Prophet sallallahu alayhi wa sallam called
it 146 of the way would then we say that as a sliver of a way that
is done the nature
the dream is a type of what he'd done in nature.
It is 146
Yeah, I'm the MUA
and Naboo Marcia, as you know, if it is a Hadith which is part of
number one, these also can be depending on this authenticity
building such as correct good money. So it is fair to say or
accurate to say that it is a type of
a bottlemen Allah or why not maybe Of course not why as in revelation
of the law
but it is of a funny nature even if it is a just like a macabre for
all Macassar fed to be categorized as money in nature. Oh is subject
to interpretation. Wonderful.
Let's take one final thing and that is what is your will sia or
counsel to a lot of the young students of knowledge out there
who are watching this
who are trying to advance in their Deen a general will see Yeah, I'm
for us all.
You want like mine was a Yeah.
I'm very, very passionately Hanafy so Okay,
I'll see you come Hanafy and stick with it as
well. Some of us here are smiling. Mashallah. So
that's my Adi, we'll see you that.
Pick the right mother. You'll be happy.
I'm just joking.
Well
yeah, study hard. Make sure that you have the other of the keytab
above the face where you learn and above the share your way even if
you disagree them actually maintain that don't become that
Western that you don't like somebody if you disagree with
somebody. You don't you don't have license to you know, hurt people.
You don't have a license to hate people stay within that framework
of the above l LM has to come with him.
tolerance to Subhan Allah give them until they come together. You
can't separate that is the most important is somehow a web for
Senator the the process understand that my Lord taught me and he did
a great job in teaching me adults I think that's the most important
that you don't change your your lifestyle you don't change your
paradigm you don't change your attitude or your culture in
assuming that since you were studying universities and then
this reason that he don't like the people who brought you here
have to maintain that dialogue and connection with them so that's
very important at a social level at the individual level obviously
to study as hard as you can burn the midnight oil make dua do some
paper and make sure you have a role for the budget in your life.
All of that which comes within
Masha Allah, Allah give us all Baraka action. I mean, perfect. As
the student of Abu Hanifa said,
I'll move Rahim on Boehner early so we ask a lot of knowledge is
like
almost a kinship relationship between the two people and since
we're lovers of knowledge, we want to always be in the good graces
and in constant connection with the elders in our community also
with the tulip and everybody who is connected to this subject and
we ask Allah Tada to let us live and die on good terms and in good
relations with all the people of knowledge involved in the Sunnah.
And in Dawa and in teaching and in researching. So just echo luck and
so much for for taking the time out. And hopefully next meeting
will be in person in Chicago but in the daytime.
more than welcome and we'd love to host you if you ever on the East
Coast trip or an East Coast tour then please in we'll be ready to
host you jolla
Welcome to Sokoloff Karen Subhanak Hola, como Byham, Deke Michelle
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Huck, whatsoever so the sub was salam aleikum wa rahmatullah
law.
All right, everybody. That was the interview that we've been waiting
for, and had planned for some weeks now. And it's always really
an honor and a blessing to be able to have
one of the elders and one of the seniors and one of the scholars
with us here on the program, and we really, as I said, at the end,
really we want to live and die in good relations with the Muslims,
and especially the co author of the Muslims are edited Quran,
which is sometimes assumed to be edited LM right?
Quran, home Allah Allah who has sought of the Prophet sallallahu
alayhi wa sallam said the people of the Quran they are the people
of Allah and his specific, those drawn near and the automat have so
many praises and virtues in the Quran. So that have no end to
them. So let's now turn to comments and questions. Let's
start with our not gonna say studio audience but close to that
guy. We have
seven guys here today. So what do you guys think you have any
comments or questions?
Speeches, Masha, Allah was humble.
He has a very diverse background and you have here the UK body and
element the dream interpretation of Islamic finance element,
institution building element. I mean, these things are across the
board.
Your institution that you're headed to
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um, there's a lot to take in. It's a lot of ticket.
All right, what else? Let's see. Let's go straight to the
serif font Troy wants to know who's in the studio is getting
jealous, because history fan tell us. He came here last summer. Wow.
That was one summer ago that we had Sharif here.
Sharif Antonio is from Detroit chief Latif is from Atlanta.
Okay, let's see.
I think the guys that are in Chicago, they're they're pretty
lucky they got Darussalam and really literally just down the
road is total custom you could probably take Could you take a jog
down there or ride a bike?
710 minutes if you took a bike. Yeah.
And daata Salam, it's
it's a transmission based and it's
devotion based. That's the feeling I get when I'm there. Right. And
Donald costume is academic based. And as he said, We they became
they're going for the accreditation so that
so that they could when they put out something it'll be
read by the academics of the worlds and Islam is always going
to have Muslims are going to be in every field every one of the signs
and so like that Islam has its its a truth is that its people are
everywhere right it gets people are everywhere you go to the
masala of any hospital and you have doctors walking in and you
have cooks walking in and you have nurse a nurse a nurse is walking
in and all the different categories of let me know that
have like four categories, not just nursing, you'd have doctor a
nurse that was the whole hospital right now it's like physician
assistant. Now it's like what else are the categories? There's nurse
practitioner
as opposed to what a nurse that's on strike, right? Nurse
Practitioner registered nurse the nurse that's not most doesn't
and once practicing ones not registered nurse, nurse
practitioner or physician's assistant, what's the ranking
here? Pa is the top right
and then you have so then you have the hospitals then you have the so
many different levels now you go into the masala first of all these
these multifaith chapels, just call them homeless, because no one
uses it except us. Right? Every once in a while you see someone in
there meditating. He's going through a phase when he realizes
stuff is nonsense doesn't work. And really all he's doing is
listening to soft music. Right? They don't come into the place is
just a masala there's nothing else. Just rocks. Rocks. No, you
remove them.
And you they have they have a chapel.
Like, you know the pulpit? Who has mess in the church? Do they
actually have mess? Do they have a speech that Christians give a
speech on Sunday morning? Who's going to that? Right? It's just
there, right? It's just there because it's, they imagine that
it's Christian dominant now, practically speaking is rugs
everywhere and Messiah if used. Right? In other words, like
someone read from this?
Go ahead.
So you mentioned that thing about the devotional aspect, or about no
weapon? Yes. It's up to the student. Yeah, your advice be for
somebody who's well, I was going to ask this question, but I never
really got the chance to
hold on, let me take this amazing sip of sugary cream.
Muslim gives you a gift, you have to take a diet or no diet. That's
my excuse.
I was gonna say this, in the post deconstructionist world, I didn't
get a chance to ask this question. But
it's all about feelings, right?
So what is the cure? I think the cure to that is, is really what he
said 75% in the sense of I am.
Alright, is what pins down. It's like, it's it's a bolt that bolts
it down into the concrete. So that you reach a point to say, I know I
feel this. But a and knowledge is what makes you have that self
awareness that I'm feeling this. And it becomes a practice of a
type of maraca in a sense
that I'm feeling this, that's knowledge. That's a practice that
you learn to do. Alright, I'm feeling this. Now. Let's weigh the
feeling. And let's look at the causes. Firstly, let's weigh the
feeling. Is this a feeling that's good? In the shittier acceptable?
Is Allah pleased with this or not? If I was to take this to a logical
conclusion, that's knowledge number number three, what's the
solution to this feeling? So why am I agitated today? To feel envy?
Why do I feel to from whom do I feel? Oh, I feel insulted or I
feel envy. Okay, why?
Because someone so didn't give me attention. SO and SO. did better.
Okay, so now we assess that feeling. So knowledge and feelings
do have a convergence. And I think that's what I aim to solve.
Islamic psychology, what have you. That's where the cross of the path
is, right? And where devotion and knowledge converge, is this
knowledge of maraca and self assessment and Maha Sabha? I'm
feeling this, okay?
This is unlawful if we take it to its logical conclusion.
This is the cure. The cure of hesed is another thought pattern,
the thought pattern what who did who gave them all that? And what
is it even it's dunya. What do I care? This dunya so short, this
contemplation is really a branch of knowledge.
But then I would say that 25% of it and he did say that he's not
ignoring all no effort, but you putting knowledge first. And I'm
telling you that he is he's right about this that knowledge is
something that lasts and
stuff grows out of it, even if it seems painstaking at the moment.
But the devotional aspect of the good aspect of it is what cures
the feeling, it will cure, you can have a lot of knowledge about
yourself. It's thick, and that is the medicine. Right? And when you
take that thicket as a medicine, that's where the feeling element
comes in, we can alter that feeling. Vickers alters that
feeling right thicker will lead you to the fact that I need this,
right like knowledge will lead you to the fact that I need this
medicine. But those people who just go on thicker, the thicker
thicker and they don't read, they don't study and they have an
antagonism towards thinking towards reading towards the suburb
that it takes to read and study. Right? They're going to suffer,
right? They're going to suffer so So knowledge really leads us to
the place where
it gives us the solutions that vicar is,
is a cure. And that's where this deconstruct post deconstruction
era and where it's just about what you feel.
That's my that's, that's sort of like the antidote to that. Right?
And I think Muslims practicing Muslims, they, their life and what
they're doing is a demonstration that we have an antidote to this
deconstruction, this post deconstruction of a world and
worldview, and the result of what is leading people to just because
you feel some way alright, what have a fox feels like a hen? Are
you going to let it in? Are you going to let it into the pen? So
now you have boys feeling like girls, and then they're getting
raped? Girls getting raped?
So all this from the deconstruction feeling based
worlds, and we're the opposite, right? We assess our feelings, and
some feelings. You let them grow and you keep feeding them and you
keep feeding them in some feelings. You don't like certain
behaviors you cannot do in public. If you do you destroy society like
defecation? What's happening in California? Right? You went to
California recently, and I'm sure guarantee anyone who's go to San
Francisco, and you guys work there, you invest at work there.
People are deprecating everywhere now, and it's almost like
they don't want to make laws on this. Right? They don't want to do
anything.
It's insane.
Dora Sela who runs it the Mufti Azima. Dean, his dad, his
brothers, they run it. They're the founders of it. That's down the
road.
Down the road of Donald Carson from Donald class and it'll cost
him as we said is it's an accredited, it's heading to an
accreditation. Okay. Whereas daata Salam is like the
it's an institute, they're not getting accredited. Not that I
know of, but dato Qasim as that it's like, focused on scholarship.
Darussalam is like in mass. And it's focused on producing fall and
folk Aha. Right. There's a lot of hits. And but they're also social.
Like it's open to public mosques. The front of dada dada
is a public Masjid. Right? Anyone walk in and pray. And they use it
as college space as school space. And they have a high school
program. Like you can take high school there. You take High School
on the computer, right? On the side, right. And I saw them like,
studying on the side maybe have a math tutor, and they're part of an
online high school. So they take their secular classes and then
they take their hips. That's far more. I mean, people differ about
this, but what is the most important thing? Yeah, I'd be the
book of Allah. If you're an Islamic civilization, that's the
gotta be then all the scholarship this the studies after the secular
studies are around that.
Right?
Does not make sense. In any Islamic civilization. The first
the most important book is the book of Allah. Right? So that's
that takes a central role. And then the this the secular subjects
around that.
Okay, now let's go to comments, questions. What do we got here
nothing
substitutes, no questions of what's up? There is an older
question. Well, that's read it so it's Is there really any
difference between Ivanovna V's we'll have to dilute and check
Cindy's? Why did the shoot it seems like semantics How do you
like how you find resistance and that both are acceptable but new
perspectives and I don't know what to just shoot is known.
Why did this shoot is simply saying that everything we see we
see it as a direct creation of Allah.
And you see what attribute of Allah is manifesting from that.
Okay?
You don't see anything as
as as that
More Stickler of that Mr. Cola as an independent essence is not an
independent essence. So every person in our life, Allah has
doing something for us through that person, not to us, for us.
And to us if we committed sins, and even that is for us, it's
appropriate for your benefit every single thing, every single person
in your life, every single event, every single that's why did this
shoot is like that. So when, when you see a lie, and you're seeing
that Allah is manifesting something, so that you can have a
concept of what Gela is like, of what fear is, like, of what power
is like, when you see
things in the creation, you always view them from that lens. That's
the bid summary of what to shoot. And that's don't know what differs
on that.
Why certain will, Jude, there is something that we have to dismiss,
we have to dismiss any concept that is
holy, or that everything is just
that we're all merely
any hold anything that merges between God and the creation that
is pantheistic in that sense, that we just missed that. And of
course, if not to be didn't mean that it's impossible for him to
have meant that as Muslim
to
Abu Bakr Ibn Al Arabi, he is a kadhi.
And it's good that you mentioned that because
there's some comments on whether or not
whether or not to call the Abu Bakr Ibn Al Arabi took that back
or not to back his statement or not. So let's go to the other is
Ibn Arabi
who is purely a Sufi. And he left he studied in Andalus. Then he
went down across and died in Damascus, Syria. Let's now go to
what Maureen sent me he said by the way, I want you to read this
to see if called the Abu Bakr Ibn Al Arabi took back
let's see where is it? Where is it? Where is it? Where is it been
allowed to be called the Abu Bakar if not oughta be Al Faqih. Okay,
let's see where that is.
He says that
it took it back.
Let's see what is it No.
Where did he send that to me?
Oh, here it is through a desert desert desert desert called the
Abu Bakr did he walked back his statement in later books died with
Makati on his chest right
now may tell but in his on his deathbed and die with Bacardi on
his chest. That's everyone, right? Anyone controversial? And if he or
she made a mistake in the past
died may tell him on his deathbed and died.
Where did Where does it say the party will buckle him a lot of you
took back his works. The aim of this paper is to examine certain
works of God the Abu Bakar Ibn Al RBL fapy. Okay, and to ascertain
the chronology chronology of some of his works,
okay. Is all walsim in Alcoa, us and it should be alright. Is it
his final work? Okay. And has his final opinion.
All right.
This needs inquiry, right? So he's inquiring. So let's see, qualities
opinion on Satan, Al Imam and Hussein that he was a rebel
against Islam and killed by the sort of his grandfather.
we contend the quote which to date is still on the website of the
sheikh.
Okay.
And
I don't know what CIC has a website, the basis for this
opinion for these opinions. And the statement for the quality is
from our awesome, welcome, awesome. Okay. He says, we intend
that we cleanse the earth from the wine of via XID and the spilled
blood of it Hussein a calamity came to us, which the joy of time
cannot repair, not one came out to him except by an interpretation,
and they did not kill him, except by what they had heard from his
grandfather, the guardian of the emissaries I doubt that
Ignizio dad and Yazeed they were looking in the books and saying
what is the outcome of the rebel? What the Prophet want us to do
here? Are you serious? Do you think that they went and said What
does the Prophet want to say? Yes, he wants us to kill his grandson.
Up
certainty.
I mean, that's absurd, right? They just had an interpretation that
this is what the prophet would want us to do. Are you serious?
That's absurd. We can understand this coming from the Shaeffer
there, get this, ya know, we're talking about Edison, however,
from a Sunni Maliki Sheikh, who was promoted the school of medic
edited the translation and printed 9595 He says is an untenable
position. Unless they are genuinely not aware of the
familiar later opinion of the cloud. The reprint has been done.
The defense against disaster was was the name given. Okay? To date,
there has only been one critical complete edition of the lesson by
Dr. Tolley beep. All right.
Talking about just like the different
I want to call us here. I mean, I would love to read the whole thing
but I'm not gonna read the whole thing on a stream he does a good
discussion on the transmission of the book and the different
editions of the book okay.
And that there is a false version of the house in which he calls a
pretender
and then we are now swimming in different editions and different
statements right and and so like, you remember what the ship what
what ships I mean, just said about people what they said about
hypnotically.
Many people when they love if not to be in there in Syria, and you
have to love him not to be if you're in Damascus, but they they
just can't stomach certain opinions, or they just disbelieve
a certain opinion, completely wrong.
They spin around and say no, no, no, no, it's not even audibly. Who
was wrong? The transmission was wrong. Right? It's inaccurate.
Right. Okay. But how do you know it's inaccurate? That is, so
shaming says no, by and large, it's accurate. Because when you
write so much, you're going to repeat your opinions, right?
So that's where and that's where and we say this too, about if
Nebby satalite. Eleni when he says, I LaRochelle my gdb veti in
the reseller and the automatic, that's this is wrong, right. And
then some say no, he meant to put a period here and begin the new
sentence. I let Arsenal Majeed period and then B that T is a new
sentence. Okay, fair enough. Another no it was a wrong the
copyist made a mistake. Okay, nowhere all that disappears. He
repeats in another book.
Right? He repeats it in another book. So why don't we just do the
right thing and say a great scholar made a mistake. Why don't
people just say this when they're the ones they look up to made a
mistake? Right he made a mistake simple huh?
With their people just said he repented Yeah, he repented on his
deathbed died because he was stressed but
but we should the reason we are losing we don't follow any item
because he's my son.
So making mistake we didn't a B or something.
We don't make mistakes all the time. And when and just admit it.
So defense against disaster edited by Sheikh Abdullah causing and
Morava to match is nothing about the audition other than he was so
enamored by the notes of the editor you know, Chicago covered
in Dallas head of the Marathi tune Okay, for the I'm assuming that's
him I'll just call them Roberts for they seem to him as an
important text nothing is mentioned that this is a chapter
which the editor has taken from the Awasum however he doesn't
mention again more discussion on the text which is not wrong is
good what he's doing but it's just we're not going to read that on
the stream got
all sorts of different works where is the
any content him looking for any content on
you doesn't seem like there's much content on where or quote or
something that's authoritative to say that.
Alright, here we go the contentious opinion of the Caldy
about Imam Hussain after all, that this is where we want
we move now and present the opinion of quasi Abu Bakar even
allowed to be on the person of Satan at the moment Hussein rather
low Tanauan
we translate his exact words from the complete edition of thou
awesome, and then from the Adila
or the Ayatollah. And finally,
okay, I already audio that I guess
from the mosaddek He says, we intend we that we cleanse the
earth from the wine of Yazeed meaning he's disavowing from his
eid and
the spilled blood of Al Hussein a calamity came to us, which the joy
of time cannot repair. So that part seems sympathetic. It calls
it a calamity. The spilled blood, not one came out
To help to him except by an interpretation, how does he know
that? How does he know that they went with a sound intention and an
HD head? And what person would have an he had that this is what
the prophet slice out of them
wants us to do. And they did not kill him except by what they had
heard from his grandfather, the guardian of the emissaries, sort
of Allahu Allah who was
from this people have concluded that what people have concluded
For we are not responsible for what people conclude this the
opinion of the kadhi has been used to malign him from his death to
now no one has even highlighted that this obnoxious opinion was an
earlier opinion. He changed his opinion
on quite a few points, which he had written within the Awasum if
the editors of his works had just highlighted that his later works
give a different opinion. Maybe in the future, well, where is that
second opinion? Okay. Maybe in the future something could be written
bla bla bla.
The sixth is that there are people
as to that you withhold the hand from one who is not fit to rule
and oppressor and abuser wrongdoings that know with this
interpretation that two nobles, Hussein, Illuminati and Abdullah
bin Zubayr arose against his ego.
So in another opinion, he's saying here that that was valid for them
to rise up against the governor.
People disagreed. Some said you rise up against the oppressive
governor, right? If he is not fit to rule, and that is what Jose and
Zubaydah did. This is the same author commenting on the same
situation. However, he states that someone who is not fit to rule an
oppressor and abuser and wrongs that no for this was the
interpretation of Imam Hussain as to the pledge of allegiance to the
Imam and the obedience to Him when He is not fit for that, do you
contest or do you rise against him? Yes or no?
Sorry. Do you content contests and rise against him? Yes or No? from
them who said yes. That which is necessitated by agreement with the
pledge. Establishing is no contesting the matter.
He's saying that there's some people said no. And then some
people said yes. And this is the basis of Hussein Center has NSA
now this is Abdullah bin Zubayr. Okay. So but it's not necessarily
negating his first opinion, because the first opinion is not
whether or not an Hussein's revolt was valid. It was that whether or
not Yazeed and Ibn Zia acted upon an interpretation.
In other words, he's saying it because both could be the case.
This does not negate the first opinion.
Right?
So yes, so Hussein had a valid and we go and rebel. And yes,
according the first opinion, yes, he was he had an Ibn Ziad also had
a valid interpretation to go and quell the rebellion. He's still
having a great hosting oven. And giving a lot of credit to Jose t
as even even Ziad that they truly wanted what the Prophet wanted.
Right? That doesn't negate the first opinion so far.
So I don't see. To conclude we have shown by an external intern
examiners have called these works and awesome is one that his
earliest his earliest work and the Audio, Audio The and the mosaddek
are two of his later works, the opinion of Claudia has written and
these two works are the ones that he died on. It doesn't negate it.
I don't understand what he's saying here because it does not
negate it. Am I right or wrong? Right. So it is possible that two
groups fighting both of them are doing a valid test with and
neither of them are guilty, right? That's what he's upon right now.
That's what Claudia Buckler is upon right now
is the first opinion never said Hussein was wrong is it is a
defensive he has eaten Evans yet. So after all this reading and
that's the summary. Why couldn't he put I'm not gonna I'm not gonna
be you know, pessimistic or anything but when you have
articles like this, by the way, this seems to be a respectable
scholar, so I'm not dissing the scholar who wrote this. Okay, but
I don't see where how long does it take back? How was it a walk back?
You didn't walk back your position you still held cardio Walker still
held that your zedan had been Ziad are upon
a valid opinion.
Right, or an HD head like they had a good intent in this. Explain to
me in What world do you have a good intent to kill the prophets
grandson?
No
Next.
Yes.
Piggybacking off of advice, I was gonna ask you, what advice would
you have
for students from college?
Student of knowledge, I think you have to play the long game.
That's my, my, a lot of people get caught up in the in the in the
immediate
years. And that's a mistake. Right? You got to realize that the
Taliban is it's a long term thing, and you have to have a lot of
suburbs. And the time that passes will be the test of our suburb and
our F loss and seeking knowledge. Right. Because if you, if you hold
out, and you keep going, and you don't stop, you will attain, you
will attain the knowledge. You may not and remind remember, I'd said
yesterday, I'm very suspicious about not suspicious, but I have
certain observations when you go to a school that's prestigious, it
has an ability to ruin you. Because everywhere you go, he
said, where do you go, Oh, I went to so and so all of a sudden, you
feel like you've arrived? Wherever you had it, right? Whereas people
who go to some dusty school or some unknown school, or people who
don't go to any school, and they studied here, and they study
there, people always look down on you, or they don't view you as
anything that is good for you. I'm telling you, that's good for you
how many? This is a silly example. But it's true. It's the same
concept of human psychology, how many first round picks are a bust?
And how many greats in any sport, we're like the 100th Pick. Because
he walks on the field. No cameras are running to him. No money is
coming into his bank account. What does that do? That makes him focus
on the game, and prepare and get better? Right? So likewise, when
people say when they like, let's say, graduate from a local
operation, like us here, and then they go to a great school, okay?
They have a test. Yes, you may learn a lot. But you come back and
you drop that name.
Right? Your world is changing. And that's not good. And people view
you differently. That's not good. So you got to be very careful from
that. And there was a study done secular study that said that they
tracked some of the greats. And they wanted to see what's the
correlation, the great success stories in a certain in various
industries. So pharmaceutical, business, medical, all different
industries. And they said, Let's track the best of them. And let's
see what they had in common regarding their schooling. They
said, No, there was nothing there was there was in fact, a surprise.
The vast bulk of them came from regular mediocre, no name
institutions.
So then they did a second study, because they got curious, they
said, Let's see their counterparts that people graduated the same
year from the same towns etc. Who went to the ivy League's, and
let's see where they are. And they turned out to be like, not as
successful, right? So is it? How is it like the counterpart in the
industry, someone who graduated the same year you did, and went
down the medical route, you ended up here, and this person who
should have been just like you, but he went to an Ivy League
school, he ended up down here, and they found overall, of course,
there's not 100%. But overall, these people who had
weaker looking weak or looking or mediocre
educational institutes, or not big names, they did better
consistently. And they said, This is bizarre. This makes no sense.
Which shouldn't make any sense, right? But then they went to the
deeper psychology behind it, all those who went to those posh
schools of the Harvard's and Yale's of the world. And the
Oxford's in the Cambridge is, they got posh, they got soft, their
hunger died, they were satisfied. Like this is alright, this is my
thing in life, whereas those who went to like Hartford, or
Clevelander school, no names, right. And some of them self
taught.
In some fields, you could be self taught, like in business, you
don't need to go to school. self taught
these guys at the same age and life no one was looking up to
them.
Everyone dismissed their educate, dismiss them like you're not
someone to look at that fit fuel their fire, and they went off to
succeed, right? So don't be my message is to look at the long
run. And don't look at the immediate names. Even as indeed I
know someone Subhanallah that I thought I would study under.
Right 10 years studied with one of the biggest shoe daily
and when he came back, like a complete stuff realizing like a
flop, no impact, no impact.
It just seems self satisfied.
Like he arrived, he got his gift of from Allah already as if that
right? Like I got the gift I did the 10 years with the sheikh, et
cetera, et cetera, no hunger now to like, prove yourself to do
something.
But life actually begins, you start to your output begins, right
after you supposed to begin after you study. So that's something
that's a mirage, I guarantee it is a mirage, what you should look for
is the hungry person. And the time that that passes will test your
necklace, the more people look at your eyes and nothing, right?
That's a test of Occulus.
Okay, and the more time passes and you see that your peers have
passed you by?
Are you going to keep going? Are you going to be so worked up on
the inside that you don't want to check out? I don't even want to be
here anymore. Right? It's a test of a class. So don't imagine that
taller will end was like university where you do four years
and I'm done.
And I really need this prestige in these four years. That's all a
trick a shakedown and a trick of the ego
at the same time.
Awesome, Al Hakim, by the way, did track down his nationality? He's a
Saudi.
I didn't expect that at all. Right. He's a Saudi nurse.
And I'm not gonna be totally disrespectful to the guy but he is
pretty consistent. Like, sometimes you have
Imams that are.
They got drama, he seems to be like, pretty steady, right? He's,
you know what he's gonna say? You could disagree or not.
Anyway.
For some reason, every time he opens his mouth, I laugh, right?
I'm not laughing at him. He just everything about him was funny,
right? Something about him. He's something about him is just
comedic by his nature. And it none. And I'm not laughing at him.
I just think he's way he talks is hilarious.
What is it about it? That's really funny. Yeah, he's just naturally
like that. Like he'll say a normal statement will be funny. Yeah. I
mean, I like to separate between the person and his men hedge and
his what he says, because we know that we're totally different
worlds. He doesn't believe that we'll have these exist. Like we're
in a different world, right? We're in a different way. By the way,
their group was they were called What were they called elec when
not if one Muslim mean of the Arab world. But their original group
were called the one right? And they take they killed Muslims who
disagreed with them and update, okay, in any of it.
And even so much so that their king had to disband them all and
fight them. Okay. Well, awesome. And Hakeem said in a q&a that is
permissible to eat things like Big Mac and USA as as a Christian
country. Did he live in the USA to see what kind of Christian country
this is? Where's the Christianity? Are companies Christian? Right?
Let's say you have a Christian country our company's Christian is
Tyson's it's Chick fil A it actually is there Christian Right.
But the question is, do they slaughter maybe in one humbly
opinion, it doesn't matter if they slaughter or not. But the mess
Allah is the assumption is the Jew and the Christian who slaughter so
if I go to Amish Pennsylvania, and the Christian man is there and he
slaughters that's different. It's the slaughtering as a Christian.
So that's the
he used an example of the Prophet eating food from the Jewish tribe
as proof that is correct because the Jews slaughtered
that's kosher. Yeah. So Christians, do they slaughter by
and large? No. And the only small sects. Okay, small sects, such as
the Amish will do that. Okay. And then we can eat that food. John,
how's it going? Hi, Kim. So it was alright to drink 4% alcoholic beer
which just you put any alcohol into anything, and it has been
rendered and it just unless he's talking about the old school
nubby guy and no doubt that that is what it is because no BS does
not alter your mental state. And it is not fully fermented. No b
there is a gradient between juice and fermented juice. That middle
area is called an a bead. It is not fully fermented. So we cannot
even say it's an alcoholic drink. It alters your mood, but not your
mind. So
these are common fatawa that come
From Salafi backgrounds. I don't know about the alcoholic one, but
definitely all the food of it Kitab regardless, right is
permitted regardless of how they slaughter, but that's not the
fence with that we're gonna go by or teach
is a? It's actually interesting. Let's hear it. So one of the
viewers was commenting before how like Imran Khan, you know, he's in
jail. And obviously we don't want to go into that could have been
like, like 10 times that we've covered it. Yep. But they're
saying that he asked for books in jail. And so I asked the viewer,
I'm like, can you give us a list? Yeah, so the center right now and
they said he asked for these books in jail. He asked for the shifa
Kadima. We had a Saudi hate book called The message of the Quran,
Islam
vision of Islam like Muhammad, Salim.
And a bunch of Sierra books, life in times of prophesized.
Either like asking, like, are we gonna give it to him? No, he's
asking, so he's in jail. Right? And all these books are great.
Yeah, that's what he's requested. Yeah, so like, I'm surprised that
he's requested that doesn't have 1000 assistants and he's a
millionaire. Tell his PA to go get him those books, right? Where he's
putting that out in public. Like he's gonna get them okay good
books that he's getting. That's excellent. His wife is a chef by
the way, like a scholar I think essentially that's what I heard
that he married you know, like a mystic
so, so that's good. Very good. You know what else you're going to do
and Joe, except for read?
And do the Quran? How about give him books on death and afterlife?
How alive is the sofa in Egypt it's there. There you have it you
can go to gatherings
is it totally prohibited to recite Fatiha after the imam in loud
raucous.
The Shafia require you to recite the Fatiha after the Imam.
And that's why sometimes the Imam will pause.
Otherwise, we don't we listen to the meme only. And we don't recite
what the meme
was the best way of explaining Santa Fe to someone who doesn't
know about that shakes they listened to or with this group.
Selfie is a fifth myth hub.
But
we will not accept it's also
right. We won't accept a fifth method. We don't need a fifth
method. But it is a method right.
But one of the problems with it it does not have one founding Imam
and hence many of it's well suited and fluid become fluid. That's the
problem. It's very fluid. You think that it's Quran and Sunnah
is one thing, but when you look at they're actually actual opinions.
They're very all over the place in Aki to all over the place.
There was a brother who made a compilation of
different fatawa in Akita,
let alone FIP. So what is better for a person is to take a method
that has a founder that has a crystal soul, these are those who,
of course, later scholars within the method have added and
subtracted but at least we have
tracks. And we know who the Imams of the metal bar and what are the
ultimate books, Sofia and that's one thing I guess I sort of regret
about
in the debate, I said I listed what hobbies
right? Remember that debate we did? And I said all these groups
and elicit all the groups I put Wahhabis at the bottom what I
should have put his selfies because then since that is it's a
whole nother method. And I don't think set a fee is in line with
most of the mega hip. The format hubs of all their fifth will be
humbly aligned with humbly and Chef a fifth probably most but in
nakida
Hannah Bella mostly along the hardenability line and they will
apart from them, they will apart from them is Chef Yusuf ibn been
served up and shook a doctor should had some advantage he says
the Salafi are not Hannah Bella and Aveda they are selling they
are their own Akita they are not Hannibal at all. He said do not do
not bundle them twice so what I'm saying is they re resemble the 100
but are the most they make cite them the most they'd be mixed with
them the most associated with them the most But
Dr. Hudson had we're gonna go by him right and Sheikh Yusuf bin
sada
and they both say the habita is one track the selfies another
truck. So we're just gonna cite the authorities is giving homeless
food to the homeless considers a cat No, it's not number one Zika
has to go to specific categories has to go to a Muslim
That's number one a poor Muslim sadaqa can go to anybody, but Zika
must go to a Muslim
who was impoverished and three it has to go in kind. So that means I
have Zika on money, I have to give it in Money cannot give any gift
cards
ShopRite gift card No, I cannot give it in food. I have $1,000 of
his account, let me buy $1,000 of grain and give it out. No, you
have to give it in cut. You have Zika on crops you have to give it
in crops. Unless the wellI The governor says no, I want it in
money. Because that's what the people need. Right. So the the the
the, that's the condition of Zika has to be given in kind, gold,
silver and currency are all one. So if you have gold, you can give
dollars, you don't have to give it in gold. That means you don't have
to chip away at your pieces of gold to give this occur. You can
give it in the value and currency is sealed nectar good Sierra book,
it's a Sierra text that that does something that no other theatre
book did, which is limited to sahih Hadith. And Sierra does not
require that in our azul. Arpita and FIP require so he had hasn't
had eats only.
But Sierra allows for the life. And it allows for even that which
is very weak sayings a thought. And that's the difference between
sealed the sealed nectar Syrah. And that's the difference we see
euro and a hadith of rulings and again, go alright North Korea. So
We answered that question in the grave. Will we be shown a photo of
the prophet or we physically come to the grave and we will be asked
Who is this man? Allow Adam but the questioning will take place.
That's what we know. The questioning will take place.
Traversing the sacred ask the question, is this traversing
tradition, the same group or no? What is your view of Hasson spiker
on modern cubism, I have to be honest with you, we have been
taught by said about Allah, we do not read the books of anatomy. So
I I read the biography of anatomy, just from the devotional side of
anatomy. But once it got into his thought, I really just sort of
stopped there. Because we don't read his books. And they say they
give two opinions, either his what's in it is the correct
transmission, you'll be confused. Or it's not the correct
transmission, therefore don't read it. So they go by both right.
And they and they say we don't read his but we have a good very
good opinion of him. We don't hold him to be careful and looked at
Diaz and do note, we have a good opinion of hip anatomy.
But we do not hold that he, why do we have a good opinion of him out
because all the automat is Sham. When he died, they had a great
opinion and they preyed upon him.
Or who's going to know better about anatomy. The people who came
700 years after, however many years after, are the people who
lived in his time. And we know who the ultimate of Shem were at that
time, like our Islamic history is documented. And that's one of the
in one of the lectures about him and audibly. That's what they
said, Is it all a sham used to read his books, write him letters
of approval, attend, they attended his janazah. And what is the
ruling of attending the janazah of a facet filled Jawara
a sinner of limbs, let alone an innovator, let alone a complete
Xindian the Imams are not allowed to attend those funerals. It's a
signal to the people who is the vessel
Imams should not attend the funeral. And I'm saying this as a
general rule. Maybe there are exceptions here and there. Right.
But they don't attend that they don't
are not allowed as my crew as Cara here not to honey. gotta hear
discouragement, not prohibition, to attend the funeral of a public
center, let alone an innovator. And as Indic doesn't even get a
burial. Like, how about that?
If he's actually is in deep? Why did they even bury him with the
Muslims? You shouldn't have been buried with the Muslims at all. Go
find someone else to bury him. That's how it would be. Or we
would bury him. Like let's say your mom's a non Muslim. She dies,
what do you do? You don't give her the rituals of whistle and all
that, but you shroud and bury, that's it. No prayers, no rituals,
nothing. But you do have to respect the body. You shroud it
and you bury it in a non Muslim graveyard. That's what you do if
you have a non Muslim parent. So why don't they do that with him?
Or just let someone else do that. But no, they all got involved.
They all prayed the janazah fun.
And there are a lot of quotes from their contemporaries in praise of
him.
But the works were deemed to be confusing to people, and hence we
don't read them also said he had famous for bad handwriting. I
guess this is what maybe schicken mean would come
capa because it does sound a bit fishy, right? They say a terrible
handwriting. Right. And so the copyist is like, I don't know what
he's saying here. Let me just, you know, come up with something
right?
What?
Oh, yeah, so his his Yeah, he just accidentally wrote all his 10 ze
content yeah all over Sahih Muslim. So what are you gonna say
about him? In no way that a an ash it took over the copies of him,
right? And then and wrote all that stuff
what is the difference between a festive and is indeed a fast ship?
Generally we use this term as a shameless public center. We all
commit sins, right? But we don't do it publicly in front of
everybody. We shouldn't write openly. I'm going to open a liquor
store with no shame verses
behind closed doors.
I fall from my ego and my knifes and I obey my knifes
privately and I feel bad about it. That type of person still has the
ability to be a solid and utter web and be beloved by Allah
because he makes so he has the decency and the Eman to keep his
sins private. The first has passed that boundary. Sadly and
unfortunately for him, he sends publicly and openly Okay.
That's a festival. Then you have an innovator and looked at a big
day. He has he's transgressed. He's He's passed the level of Sins
of the limbs, and he's into beliefs. No, he holds beliefs that
are heretical, that are inconsistent with the Quran. He's
a Moqtada. The Moqtada is a Muslim, but his deeds are not
accepted until he corrects his Eman. And we don't pray behind
him. We don't go to his Masjid. We don't do anything with him. Then
as India, his beliefs are out of Islam altogether. We don't bury
him. The marriage with him is invalidated on the spot. The
marriage to an innovator is sinful. What does it mean? What?
His beliefs are out of Islam. It's a heretic. He's a he is a
Catholic, but he calls himself a Muslim. Yeah. Qadiani call
themselves Muslim. Right. And that's the difference between and
the apostate. The apostate is telling you I'm not a Muslim
anymore. You posted openly. He's not having the identity of a
Muslim. There's indeep has identity of a Muslim. He's saying
I'm a Muslim, but his beliefs are completely against Islam such as
the Muslim evolutionists. In one opinion, they're completely right.
And other opinion they're Moqtada. Right. I liked the opinion of
Sheikh Noir. years and, okay, you got to make things cut and dry.
You give these people an inch. Muslim evolutionist is one of the
most
absurd ideas to tell you. Why, because they have to believe that
Satan to Adam and say, to Hawa had parents.
And his parents were not human.
So some mammal or other, some AP, like mammals always either or
where does that lead us? There are apes in the heavens.
Or that they were created here on the earth. But then how did you
come down? A bit the woman had Jamia go down from it.
So go down from heaven to earth? No, they say no. There was a hill.
They came down, go down from this hill. Where's this such a special
Hill on the earth that I would not want to come down from? Right? And
how does that explain that Adam and how what lived on a mountain?
So they clearly didn't go off a hill? They stayed on a hill. They
lived on a mountain, right? And why do they live on a mountain
because mountains have everything there are two types of mountains
there's this the Rocky Mountain.
And there's the the mountain with life in it. The mountain that has
trees and caves and rivers and streams and goats. And make sense
because they didn't yet build homes. So they had cover. Right?
They had the ability to go into a cave from the for the shade and
stuff like this right? Until they learned to build homes and do
other things and settle on the flatlands right. So how do you
explain all this? So you just keep going from one thing to the next?
Well, you have a problem explaining away because they they
are married to causation. They hold causation to be absolute.
That causation is the real receptive of things. That's the
real operative problem with the Muslim evolutionists.
All right, explain to us Prophet Jesus.
And Allah brought Prophet Jesus onto the earth around the middle
of the time of human or late in the time of humanity.
Right. So then, where is exactly your explanation of Prophet Jesus?
They say no, he did not have the institution of the Father.
He had a father, but he had the institution so wait a second, how
was marrying a virgin then? Are you saying, Well, where is her
marriage? Like, think about this
In Islam marriage is public right?
Where it's her marriage.
And why is he attributed to her and not to the Father? So what if
his father died? You're still a son of that father right? Is not
Mohammed Abdullah Ali salatu salam
Did he ever meet his father? No, but he's called Mohammed bin
Abdullah. Why is a so called a 7 million? Right? That's the only
attribution possible for him. Right so they just keep digging
hole after hole after hole after hole. The Muslim evolutionist edge
Helen Moqtada edge * is Antarctica is the Muslim
evolutionist is the most ignorant of zips, he will dig himself into
hole and I told you before what one of them said
he said that there is a possibility in nature
of mammals are animals giving birth without a pair.
Right. And I said what are you talking about? said yeah, just
gives birth like that. Without anything, said, Okay. Give me one
example. He said there's a species of frogs.
I was like, wow, you went from one heresy to another. So you are now
saying that she just happened to have a kid like a frog. Now,
frogs, that species of frogs all of them do that? All those frogs
have.
Right? They give birth, asexual reproduction? All the frogs have
that. So if that was the case in humans, then why don't we have
that all over the place? Why just one and it happened to be the
mother of a prophet? Come on. Look, they're married to
causation. That's what they believe that things can only exist
by causation. We say yes, when Allah wills something to exist,
there is a cause that he creates, and he can create any cause he
wants. And he can create without a cause if he wants a cause being a
middle thing. Right.
Okay. That's their problem.
And why is it that it has to be something that you could see, it
could be a cause that you don't see.
Right? So materialist, I think, is the wrong explanation of people.
They're not materialists, they're Reductionists. They reduce
knowledge to what their own eyes can see. And their tools can
measure. We say, no, there are everything that is created is
material and its nature. There are different materials, the soul is a
very subtle vapor like materials. Some people say, Why? Because
Allah says he blows in it. He blew it into the soul into the body.
And what do you blow a vapor, right? So it's vapor? Like, they
say it is a warm, vapor like substance, very subtle vapor. Why
did they say it's warm, because when it's removed from the body,
the blood cools down.
What is the source of heat and human being is the blood, right?
And the blood passes through the heart. So that they get from all
this, they deduce backwards, that the nature of the soul, we can
maybe be able to say it's a warm vapor like substance that settles
in the heart of the human being, and hence warms up the heart.
Okay. And that's why you could take off different limbs, and you
could still be alive. But you take out the heart, and you're dead. So
this is what some speculations that they say that it's warm vapor
like, like material that settles around the area of the heart and
warms the body up. And it really, it is the soul that requires the
air, right? So that is another proof that it's vapor like because
it needs air, right, it needs to breathe.
You take the soul out, and the body cools down and the air stops
coming out of the body. Right. And that's how you know that the soul
is gone. They used just take a mirror or glass in front of them
put it in front of a person to see if the breath would create a
vapor. If there's breath, they know he's still alive. If there's
vapor they didn't not everyone knows how to check the pulse.
Right? If there's vapor on the glass, they know he's still alive.
That is the effect of the salt. That's what they say. So
we don't deny that every that there's that everything that Allah
creates has a material substance, we assume that we accept that. But
what we do deny is that it's limited to what we can hear and
see. Okay. Khalil says, How do we explain a heart transplant then?
Good question. Well, the heart is kept alive, and then merely the
organ has changed.
We're not saying that the heart is married to that the soul is
married to this specific heart. We don't say that. Right.
Just to add on to that. I mentioned this. Yeah. He was
saying how the people that do heart transplants, they found that
a lot of times what happens is the person's like heart that it was
they tend to pick up on that person's personality they do. So
it's a bit of a mixture, right and it's
Like, it's not even just like, like now and then it's like 100.
It's like something that they see it's consistent common. And then I
think there was one like case like, I think it was like a pig
heart transplant some guy. I don't know if you saw that what happened
to him? He died. Right? I think he I don't know if he died. But from
what I remember, he started picking up traits of a pig of an
animal. Unbelievable. You remember that? I don't know. Like, it was
pretty big. We got to look that up. Look that up real quick.
That's interesting.
We've seen a lot of them act like pigs without the transplant.
But that's a good question. So we don't know a lot about of these
things, but we're deducing backwards. Based upon what Allah
says in the Quran about the rule, the rule, there's a lot of
discussion on the rule and the neffs.
It's very clear in the Quran, that it's the neffs that is
responsible, that is,
takes action that will be asked
and that the rule is akin to a secret
inspiration in the human being of how he should live because the
rule in the Quran is always referring to a new creation and a
new law and a new set of rules. So why say 97 muddiman specifics
called the Rule of Allah everywhere said nice as mentioned
the rule as it is described as a rule is aided by a rule because he
was created differently and hence has a different set of rules by
which he lives
he can at any time by the permission of Allah give life to
the dead
he was doing it all the time. What other Prophet did this regularly
he by the permission of Allah is able now to cure the blind
who else can do that? Not just one time or no regularly cure skin
diseases and other diseases. He has a different he also can leave
this earth
go to the heavens and come back right who else has this way of
living? Why because he's a new creation remember we said earlier
him being created six different ways so why evolution is stuck the
creation has to be one way Adam was created one way how what was
created one way Zachary say no say no yeah here and is hoc were
created one way all of us were created one way say nice was
created a different way. And all of us will be recreated in the
afterlife a different way.
How will your soul meet your body? Are you going to be born again?
No, you're not gonna be born again. Your soul will come out and
then the matter that will make up your body will be like
magnetically attracted to that soul and you have a new buddy
boom. We could have been created like that. Earlier Satan Adam
could have created been created like that if Allah wanted, but he
wasn't saying Adam was created as a statue first.
A statue that you could knock Sol Sol and kill Fokker
personality. Alright, let's close with this personality changes
following heart transplantations.
This has been reported for decades, including accounts of
recipients acquiring the personality characteristic of the
donor
four categories and move it over a little bit because the limps in
the way.
Personality and personality changes are discussed in this
article changes in Preferences, alterations in emotions and
temperament modifications of identity memories from the donors
life memories. Well imagine having memories but it's someone else's
life. What by the way, we're reading from PubMed, okay.
Yep. Okay. The acquisition of donor personality characteristics
by recipients following heart transplantations is hypothesized
to occur via the transfer of cellular memory, and four types of
cellular memory are epigenetic memory, DNA memory, RNA memory,
and protein memory. Other possibilities such as the transfer
of memory via intracardiac neurological memory and energetic
memory are discussed as well. implications for the future of
heart transplantation are explored including the importance of re
examining our current definition of death. Studying how the
transfer of memories might affect the integration of a donated heart
determining whether memories can be so you donate the heart of a
half as you suddenly wake up as a Hafiz
can be transferred via the transplantation of other organs
and investigating which types of information can be transferred via
heart transplantation is crazy. What's not true this is commented
as a case of a girl with a new heart who solved the murder of the
donor. Wow. That is amazing. Like tapped into the memories before
they die. And then next up who killed Netflix Netflix movie right
there. Don't mean that's a great movie plot. That is a great movie
plot. Right? That's a great movie plot. All right, little girl grows
up, has an accident needs or has a disease or whatever it gets to
heart transplant right? And then starts having visions and starts
having different preferences and then all of a sudden she
finds herself in a location where she shouldn't be where the
criminals are right? She doesn't know why she's attracted to this
warehouse, right?
And then all of a sudden she finds criminals there. And then all her
memories come back and she realizes she solved a massive
crime. That's actually good fun. That's a movie and she was eight
years old huh? No, it's not even science fiction
after the pig 61 Wow 61 days experimenting on people
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