Shadee Elmasry – NBF 235 Shaykh Amin Kholwadia Interview

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The Safina society discusses the transmission of monsters from the church and the importance of exposure to the public in maintaining a connection with people in the community. They emphasize the need for a solution to problems related to the implementation of the Islamic Sharia law and the use of goddamn language. The speakers discuss various opinions and accusations, including the "has been said" and "has been said" of the death of the deceased prophet Muhammad, the importance of heart transplant outcomes, and the use of "has been said" and "has been said" to describe experiences. They also touch on the topic of materialism and the concept of Easter, as well as the history of the Bible and the concept of materialism. The segment also touches on the use of words like "has been said" and "has been said" to describe experiences. Finally, they mention the importance of heart transplant outcomes and reformat the memory and heart transplant outcomes.

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			Everyone should go to migrate to
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			Bismillah R Rahman r Rahim Al
hamdu lillah wa Salatu was Salam
		
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			ala Rasulillah who other early he
was a happy woman who Allah.
		
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			Welcome everybody to the Safina
society nothing but facts live
		
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			stream on a very special day in
which we have a special guests.
		
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			And that is of course shake. I'd
mean Kawada of Chicago, founder of
		
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			Donald custom college and truly
one of the elders, and one of the
		
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			seniors now in the United States
and in the Western Hemisphere, a
		
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			leader in knowledge, a respected
scholar, and somebody that I think
		
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			everybody who was involved in Dawa
in knowledge in scholarship should
		
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			be looking up to as somebody who's
built an institution and
		
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			established credit a credible path
of knowledge for a lot of
		
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			brothers. I'm sitting here with
some brothers who are headed to
		
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			Dotto costume and,
		
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			and some brothers who have already
been to Dotto costume. So we know
		
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			a lot about Dotterel costume maybe
some of our viewers out there are
		
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			not familiar with Dotterel costume
so let's begin with a little bit
		
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			of a bio and a background. But
first we'd like to welcome chef
		
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			Amin chef Amin Welcome to the
SOFIA society podcast.
		
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			Salaam aleikum wa
		
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			rahmatullah Sheikh Amin is
originally from
		
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			the subcontinent and travel and
study there extensively. Before
		
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			moving to England, he studied the
classical
		
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			men hedge of Hanafi FIP and met at
the Arcada. And he studied the
		
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			Arabic language, of course,
studied Hadith and studied all of
		
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			the sciences that any scholar
would be expected to have studied
		
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			yet he excelled. And around by the
age of 22, and 23, he was
		
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			excelling past his peers and
completing the curriculum. Check
		
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			before we get to your shift to
England, I want to ask you about
		
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			something that's mentioned here in
your biography regarding the
		
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			Theosophical initiation in to the
Ecuadorian school. This may be
		
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			terminology that some people are
not aware of. And so if you can
		
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			kindly inform us what exactly
		
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			does that mean? What exactly does
it mean that the esophageal
		
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			initiation and what is exactly the
UK body in school?
		
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			Yeah, the Aquarian school is named
after Shaka Akbar.
		
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			He has his own methodology and
understanding the Sman suffered
		
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			and would you say he has on 30,
carbs bigger and
		
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			exercises, meditation, etc. So
that's the school. And theosophy
		
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			is, you know, when you adopt the
school, in the sense that you want
		
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			to worship Allah in a good way in
a better way. And that is where I
		
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			think the focus on the Salic is
ibadah. And drawing closer to
		
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			Allah, the Sonics focus is always
Hola. Sonic is not at all worried
		
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			about the mundane affairs of the
world.
		
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			His passion is to serve a lot.
Please Allah worship Allah in and
		
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			then infuse it in his daily life.
So that's what we mean by the
		
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			theosophy.
		
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			Yeah. Is it a spiritual practice?
Or is it a school a branch of
		
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			Arpita
		
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			I suppose there's a lot of post
Calum Aqeedah and his post Golan
		
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			he doesn't really care too much
for the Konami, you know,
		
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			dialectics, but he does care for
the, on the Aqeedah you have Allah
		
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			Who is Allah, how does he operate,
etc. So it is a lot of posts of
		
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			Edo post Aqeedah and there are
some Aska there's a lot of Dausa
		
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			has,
		
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			that as car that he he prescribes
in history a car mainly is mainly
		
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			an offshoot of the Cordelia
Silsila. But it's distinct in
		
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			terms of
		
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			his understanding of Allah,
Allah's names and SIFAT. And
		
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			that's what the Sadek does and he
understands a lot goes into a
		
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			discussion of Allah, how you see
Allah, how does Allah manifest
		
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			himself and so on, is quite
comprehensive.
		
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			Do the traditional SSID or metro
DD scholars do they
		
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			take issue with any ideas in the
Cambodian school? And if so, what
		
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			are some of their points of
conflict? I mean, some of them are
		
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			very vicious against the chef.
They don't like him. Some of them
		
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			condemn him as a Garfield and but
that's fine everybody to his own,
		
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			I guess, is it because of February
issues or
		
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			issues is about who Jude is about
existence who exists. And, you
		
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			know, if not to be through his
very articulate, you know,
		
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			expression of existence.
		
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			He comes to a mahkamah station
where only Allah exists,
		
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			and nothing else. So he is a
spiritual state.
		
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			The people who Calamy and then
don't get me wrong, I love the
		
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			color traditionally t shirt here.
They seem to miss the boat.
		
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			He's not talking to the
multicolored. Yeah, he's talking
		
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			to the Salic. It's a different
language is a different code. It's
		
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			a different science. So that's why
people get confused, because in so
		
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			many places, he does say that
Allah is separate from his
		
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			creation. There's no audio
recorded. Hello, there's no
		
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			incarnation is and there are
separate.
		
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			How could How can we? How can we
in Allah,
		
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			it doesn't matter how low Allah
comes, he's still the hub. It
		
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			doesn't matter how high the hug
goes up, it is still
		
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			it makes it very clear. And people
are confused, because they seem to
		
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			read all of his works in the
Columbia tradition. And we mean,
		
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			people who study if not, I mean,
we know he's not talking to the
		
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			mother column. He's talking
specifically to the person who has
		
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			entered into saloon, and he's
talking to them in their language.
		
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			So you have to separate the two
languages. If you don't, you'll be
		
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			confused. And definitely you end
up saying, Oh, maybe he's just a
		
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			heretic, you know?
		
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			So So, we've got really condemned
people who don't understand him.
		
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			They're lazy. They don't want them
to learn the language of the show.
		
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			And basically, that's the bottom
line, but we're okay. We're okay
		
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			with that. Tell me about the
discussion on his manuscripts and
		
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			the transmission of his
manuscripts. And if those
		
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			manuscripts have any deaths, or
alteration, whether it be
		
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			accidental or intentional, some
people speak about his stepson, as
		
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			somebody who had added and
subtracted from his stepfathers,
		
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			from hypnotic these manuscripts.
So could you talk to us a little
		
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			bit about about that, and that? I
think sometimes it's an
		
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			accusation, but sometimes also
more of an explanation away
		
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			explaining away some of the
		
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			problematic statements that
automat find in those manuscripts.
		
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			Yeah, I mean, that's a good
insight, whether or not because in
		
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			those days, there they were,
manuscripts written by hand and
		
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			ink
		
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			is very easy when you transcribe,
to miss a word, Miss A phrase, or
		
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			even rephrase some phrases, which
would be as you say, an
		
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			interpretation.
		
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			And anything else if the hurry if
		
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			the idea that in certain places is
being, you know, messed with mud
		
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			susu that I don't buy that I think
that's a cop out, I think you
		
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			should explain what the man is
saying, Don't run away from it.
		
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			In terms of academic integrity,
and honesty, if you disagree, just
		
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			say you disagree, don't hide the
fact that he said it. And that
		
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			will be their true scholarship. So
there are places that certain
		
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			people say in facilisis, Mazouz,
altered and changed and
		
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			I think you take it on face value,
and explain it through his
		
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			methodology through his
philosophy, then you Okay, so
		
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			you're not running away from a
problem. You're trying to explain
		
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			what the shark actually means.
Once you explain it, then it's not
		
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			a problem.
		
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			But there might be certain places
definitely where alterations were
		
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			common
		
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			in those days now, even with the
printing press, there are so many
		
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			mistakes, the printing press made,
as you know,
		
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			and they have printed a whole set
of Quran. The Turks, they're all
		
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			wrong. Every page has mistakes.
Subhan Allah
		
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			the Quran says that they had to
get
		
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			in Egypt
		
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			They noticed that the Quran copy
after the printing press was
		
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			invented, they had to go by hand,
and right over
		
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			hundreds of words Subhanallah
because now the testimony to the
		
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			hips, and the memory of those
scholars that there's no wrong,
		
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			it's all it doesn't match up to
the auto standard. So it was quite
		
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			common for people to, you know,
miss, right, Miss transcribe,
		
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			but on the whole, we know what his
positions are on the whole, so we
		
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			would know that this is
		
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			distorted or not let's then if it
being the case that his works have
		
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			been transmitted accurately, more
or less accurately without much
		
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			tenancies or, or alteration.
		
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			Let me ask about a specific foot I
issue. And that is his statement.
		
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			Or let me say the statement that
		
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			Elena will eventually experience a
bliss of their fire. Is that an
		
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			accurate understanding of his
statement? And how does it how did
		
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			the scholars understand this is
99% accurate? But he says that
		
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			occasionally, they will be, you
know, brought out from the the
		
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			alum the pain, and they will taste
a certain leather and a Luba he
		
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			pulls a dooba from that sweetness,
then they'll go back to the pain.
		
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			And that is for the purpose of
understanding how do people
		
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			survive in eternity with this
amount of pain. So he wants to
		
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			give it a kind of justification by
saying that there are people in
		
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			the world who are masochist.
		
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			They enjoy pain.
		
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			So he's an alumna that basically
masochist. So for a brief moment,
		
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			a temporary relief will be that
they enjoy the punishment. But he
		
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			doesn't say that they'll exit the
fire. Yes, nor does He say that
		
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			the fire will be extinguished. He
says fall in either feet.
		
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			And that's as far as the nurse
goes, and you can you can't
		
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			question him for that. He does say
they'll live there forever. What
		
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			he says is that if you want to
understand the process of a
		
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			climatization, how'd you
acclimatized yourself in the fun,
		
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			and he remained there forever. So
that's what he's trying to do. But
		
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			he does make that statement, but
it's not permanent, meaning maybe
		
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			might be a few moments, a few
seconds, and then this happens,
		
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			and then they go back to feeling
the pain. So it's like he's the
		
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			literal semantics of hermeneutics
of Leo, who
		
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			they may taste the other oven.
That is some other but yeah, so
		
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			he's he makes that hermeneutical
kind of connection. And that's it
		
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			that we heal, which may be not in
line with the the
		
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			Sunnah, at least the majority of
them, but it's in line with the
		
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			words it's in line with the
hermeneutics.
		
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			Okay, that doesn't change. He says
that there forever. So in that
		
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			case, it's a speculation from on
his part on how is it that someone
		
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			will, will or can survive that
long in that much pain? More so
		
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			then it is a, as you said earlier,
a statement of doctrine, just a
		
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			speculation on how someone would
survive that long. Okay. And as he
		
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			says that, they're not going to be
experiencing bliss, as a state as
		
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			a normal state, nor will they be
outside of the fire. So in that
		
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			respect, there is no negation of
any of the major elements of or
		
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			the known model elements of op ed
in that. Yeah, definitely not. I
		
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			think, you know, for those who
might want to justify the
		
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			permanent
		
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			existence in the farmer, it might
help them
		
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			it might just help them so there
are many animals who enjoy pain
		
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			and different fields.
		
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			And animals in the world. They
live and survive they're born in
		
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			filth. Subhanallah Well, we we
know that people in this life
		
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			may be addicts, or maybe
otherwise, are actually choosing
		
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			actions that results in pain
willingly with their own freewill.
		
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			self destructive behavior is
something that people do engage
		
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			in.
		
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			Maybe if you go with his major
philosophy that they actually
		
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			choose, you know, their way of
life. They choose their lifestyle
		
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			and it is through their own
volition that they want to be like
		
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			this. Yeah.
		
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			The Quran mentions that will oral
route do the rd will be my new
		
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			who? Andrew. If they will return
these people who are enjoying
		
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			them, they will do exactly the
same thing.
		
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			They repeat their lifestyle and
their lives. Yeah. So it's not
		
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			totally you know, when you're
going into radical, but there's a
		
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			sense of a common sense that I
think Yeah. Okay. Now, let's take
		
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			a drastic shift. Because in
England, you studied a completely
		
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			different ms edge science or
study, which is Islamic finance.
		
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			Right now we shift from matters of
the heart and of mysticism to the
		
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			nitty gritty of dollars and cents
and dinars in their homes.
		
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			Could you speak a bit about your
research into Islamic finance?
		
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			What exactly were you examining,
and if anything came out of it in
		
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			terms of a product in the
marketplace?
		
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			Well, then the I was part of a
group that we're writing
		
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			a book on Islamic finance, what it
is what it could be. So that's how
		
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			that book came about, I was
assigned the first chapter in that
		
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			book, and we got to know and learn
from each other about Islamic
		
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			finance and their transactions,
the moussaka Mudaraba, what have
		
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			you.
		
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			So I think the thrust was on
examining the, you know, the
		
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			English system, and comparing it
to a kind of suggested Islamic
		
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			system and trying to, you know,
get the best out of both worlds if
		
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			there is such a thing. And that
was, you know, through the studies
		
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			in fifth,
		
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			we had studied as a god quite
comprehensively, and Hamdulillah.
		
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			And, you know, and there are a lot
of, you know, you have Kitab, W or
		
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			Ijarah, and all of those wonderful
books in fear that we have. And
		
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			then, on top of that, you have
this
		
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			on your own shot trying to,
		
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			you know, plug in a square
		
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			peg into a round hole, which the
tracks are different. So, our
		
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			conclusion is that you really
can't merge the two,
		
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			the Western track is very
different from the Muslim track,
		
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			the gauge is very different than
the train, and that compartment
		
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			won't fit on those tracks. So
you'd have to redo all the tracks.
		
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			And what we were trying to do is
trying to help Muslims understand
		
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			that the basic knowledge that we
have of Islamic transactions, this
		
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			is this is it.
		
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			Now, I don't know what what
happened in terms of it was used
		
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			in colleges in England, the book,
		
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			to teach people introduction to
Islamic finance, and so on. But at
		
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			the same time, when you kind of
moved on from that, and we do
		
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			other things here in this country,
and trying to be more creative.
		
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			You can't put an Islamic label on
a Western instrument. Yeah.
		
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			That's just false. So we disagree
with that approach. There are
		
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			other approaches we have, in terms
of trying to understand the
		
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			difference between the hunter ban
listener, which I thought it was
		
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			such a genius,
		
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			you know, understanding of the
Hanafis, especially
		
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			Geneva came up with it, and his
students, and then they took that
		
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			there is a difference in the way
you live
		
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			Islamic transactions, are they you
know, part of your federal aid? Or
		
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			is it basically up to the Wali and
the hacking, how he rules and
		
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			governs and because he has the
July authority to tell people this
		
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			is wrong, this is
		
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			you owe him this, you're in
Europe, UK, US, where if if you
		
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			have a dispute about an Islamic
transaction, transaction, you
		
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			can't take that to the judge in
the US know anything about Islamic
		
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			transactions, you're you're
compromising. So,
		
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			you are you are lost, because you
have to go with the law of the
		
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			land if he says this. Now, the law
of the land may be very
		
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			contradictory to Islamic law.
		
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			So it becomes very, very confusing
for the for the consumer. So
		
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			that's why there's a new theory or
not a new theory or an old theory
		
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			which needs to be revived and say
we must acknowledge in theory,
		
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			that the two systems are very
different.
		
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			are they compatible? A few of the
moral? Yeah, I don't think ideas,
		
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			they're compatible and they
overlap. But how would you
		
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			regulate this transaction and this
transaction that needs a new
		
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			system? A system of Islamic
finance in digital health,
		
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			basically. So that's what we're
trying to create. Now, Donald
		
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			classes.
		
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			When you mentioned Donald Trump in
the Hanafi.
		
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			Tradition and definition, can you
give us
		
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			the criterion of a land being
called Donald how many people
		
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			imagined base based upon the
terminology that there actually is
		
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			a battle taking place? So is that
does that translate in the
		
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			hanifin? Framework? Yeah, that's a
very naive translation. And people
		
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			because they don't know if the
terminologies are filled. They
		
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			translate everything literally.
		
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			They're very amateurish, it means
nothing like that, that is very
		
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			simple idea. And that is that in
the land where Islamic law cannot
		
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			be implemented willingly,
		
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			that is,
		
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			simple as that contrast is just
between when the law of the land
		
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			is supreme, or the law of Islam is
supreme, where the law of Islam is
		
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			compromised, and the law of the
land is supreme. That's the I
		
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			don't have sound definition. Okay,
nothing to do with warfare. So,
		
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			now, when people ask about buying
homes these days, there are some
		
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			products out there in the
marketplace where the contract on
		
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			its face is a murabaha contract,
which is basically the
		
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			organization comes in, buys the
house, and cash sells it to you at
		
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			a profit and you could buy it out
over time. So it's has three
		
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			parts. It's not a money lending
contract, but it's to its buyers,
		
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			and money for a product. So on its
face, it's a valid contract. And
		
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			of course, as we know, within a
few months, that contract itself
		
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			will be sold bundled up and sold
by the purported Islamic mortgage
		
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			company, in a, an unlawful sale of
a whole bunch of debts to another
		
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			company, you then get a letter in
the mail saying that you're paying
		
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			ABC mortgage company, this much
money, and here's the interest,
		
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			okay? So I tell people that you're
not responsible for what they do
		
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			with the contract afterwards,
you're responsible for what you
		
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			purchased and what you signed. And
that sort of gets a Muslim over a
		
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			hurdle. And at least he's signed a
contract that was valid, what they
		
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			did with it was their issue. But
so setting aside the pragmatics
		
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			and the day to day life of a
regular Muslim who bought wants to
		
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			buy a house at a higher level, it
seems to me that you are
		
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			completely unsatisfied with the
way that Muslims have tackled or
		
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			developed response within the
contemporary modern framework of
		
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			debt base of a debt based economy
and an interest based economy.
		
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			Now, you also said that you're
working at solutions to this at
		
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			total cost. And can you share some
of the foundational principles of
		
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			that solution? And how would it
trickle down pragmatically into
		
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			the everyday life of a Muslim?
		
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			Yeah, that's a loaded question.
		
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			Why is it a trillion dollar
industry?
		
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			It's everything. Yeah. You gave me
a trillion dollars to answer.
		
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			Yeah. No, oh, yeah. Hey, we
respect Muslims emotions, that
		
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			they want to do everything.
		
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			Now that much of a great value
that you want to stay away from
		
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			sin.
		
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			We don't discount the ideas or the
intentions and emotions we say
		
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			this is wonderful. This should be
the way that we believe and the
		
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			way we feel there's no doubt in
that
		
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			is tenable law here of SMU about
right? Under STAY AWAY FROM SIN at
		
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			every level.
		
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			The issue is, you know,
		
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			it's
		
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			a transaction. And then there's
another transaction. So your
		
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			transaction facilitates the second
transaction,
		
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			which is you've been underwritten
by Fannie Mae or something.
		
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			It does facilitate it.
		
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			The Quran says the r1 or other
derivative, cooperates with virtue
		
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			and Taqwa don't cooperate in sin.
So here's their cooperation their
		
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			surfaces
		
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			Are You There is in terms of just
very legal terms in terms of
		
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			writing the contract there is. So
it will absolve you because you're
		
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			no longer responsible for whatever
they do with your money.
		
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			That's a separate transaction. So
that much makes sense that you
		
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			could do that. But at the end of
the day, my biggest concern is, is
		
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			it consumer friendly?
		
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			When you offer somebody a product,
there has to be a satisfaction
		
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			with the product.
		
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			This is America, consumers always
right.
		
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			So what I would want people to do
is find maybe a better way, a more
		
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			refined way to bring the product
into the market and have a bit
		
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			more consumer satisfaction,
reviewed,
		
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			researched,
		
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			and then taken into account. And
then obviously, the rates that the
		
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			Halal industry charges to the
consumer, then kind of exorbitant
		
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			was is another common
		
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			complaint that people have.
		
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			So we're trying to find that
through the, you know, the
		
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			classical scholars, which I said
that there's not a new ruling,
		
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			there's an old ruling, which makes
perfectly legal sense because it's
		
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			coherent. And that is based on an
example. Give you an example, that
		
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			we have an Islamic law of SOS.
		
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			Can we execute because ours here
in this country,
		
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			by ourselves, and we can't know?
Why? Because it's the government's
		
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			prerogative. If they want capital
punishment, and they want to
		
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			execute someone, then you have the
constitutional prerogative to do
		
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			what they want to do if the state
allows it.
		
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			Or maybe the Feds want to do
something. The federal government
		
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			allows it, then they have their
prerogative legal problem. We as
		
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			Muslims can't say that the Quran
wants us to execute precise,
		
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			albeit as a penal code who doesn't
matter which code it belongs to.
		
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			So in that case, our scholars
would all agree that the sauce is
		
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			exempt
		
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			for Muslims in this country, no
scholar will say that you take him
		
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			back to Dar Al Islam and executed,
correct. Yep. No one was correct.
		
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			Yeah. Every scholar is forced to
say that in the matter of
		
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			executing, implementing exhausts,
Muslims are forgiven and
		
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			exonerated from that hokum.
		
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			Correct. So that's one example
where Daru Coover makes a
		
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			difference in the hokum correct.
		
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			Now, let's apply this to other
ACCA.
		
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			Maybe it doesn't apply to Serbia?
No, because we don't need
		
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			government prerogative to do
Serbia. Yes. Does it apply to
		
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			Nica? No, because we don't need
government intervention to do
		
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			that. Correct? Would it apply to
divorce?
		
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			Maybe? In some cases? Yes. Some
cases? No. So what do we do about
		
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			those areas in divorce, where we
cannot implement Islamic law?
		
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			You're gonna have to be creative
and think of a theory which is
		
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			consistent with the theory of
disaster, that we will be exempt.
		
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			And scholars say no, we're not
exempt from applying the divorce
		
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			laws in this country either. Which
will follow the law as much as we
		
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			can. But, you know, again, we're
still exploring,
		
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			because it becomes a huge, huge
		
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			problem for most of them divorced
women who are left bereft.
		
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			And they don't have too much to go
on. If you implement the Islamic
		
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			Sharia law. Now, this is a
contingency, maybe it's a masiva.
		
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			Maybe you have to be patient,
whatever it is that you want to
		
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			call them. At the end of the day,
they are Muslims are suffering,
		
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			and they don't seem to like the
idea of implementing Islamic
		
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			divorce laws.
		
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			So there again, what do the
scholars say? How do we overcome
		
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			those problems? Because we have to
fix the problem. You have to help
		
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			Muslims. Yes. What about Islamic
law is about how helping the
		
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			destitute woman on the street.
What are you going to do for her?
		
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			Some people say that the society
communities
		
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			look where that's got us nutshell.
		
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			immunity does diddly squat for
anyone.
		
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			So that does work because you
can't mandate that or the Muslim
		
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			communities or the parents or
		
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			The brothers and sisters have it
the lady she's divorced. And she's
		
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			cornered.
		
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			She has a father and a mother. She
has no brothers sister, she has no
		
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			relatives that are Muslim, why
would they do anything for?
		
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			And so on. So there's a whole
bunch of questions. I'm not
		
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			suggesting for a moment that you
change the Islamic law.
		
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			I'm not subscribing to the I'm
saying that you need to find a
		
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			consistent theory, which helps
them benefits Muslims sometimes
		
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			compromise. And so that's another
area where you might find that
		
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			Islamic law is not going to be
implementable. It certainly might
		
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			be implementable 90% or 95%. But
that still gives you you know,
		
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			some room to think about legally
how you're going to think about
		
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			this.
		
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			And then obviously, you can extend
it to other rules other in Islam,
		
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			like you know Riba.
		
00:31:01 --> 00:31:06
			So is riba something where Muslims
will be exempt and, and then
		
00:31:06 --> 00:31:07
			Muslim non,
		
00:31:09 --> 00:31:14
			you know, saying, Okay, remember
definitely is wrong. The theory of
		
00:31:14 --> 00:31:18
			rebar versus the hokum of rebar,
they're very different. So we
		
00:31:18 --> 00:31:22
			subscribe to the idea that young,
a lot of rebar will be set apart
		
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			at a universal level, where no
doubt and the idea of you know
		
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			taking money because you're
lending money is atrocious. It is
		
00:31:31 --> 00:31:35
			almost inhuman. So we agree with
that, all of that. But here's a
		
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			contingency. Now the contingency
is that what level? And what
		
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			amount of Islam? Can I practice in
the harbor? So they will sue you?
		
00:31:45 --> 00:31:49
			Some of them? If not, most of them
say we're not allowed to live in
		
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			Daraa? Indefinitely?
		
00:31:53 --> 00:31:54
			That's the answer.
		
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			To be reasonable, because you're
supposed to practice Islam
		
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			completely. Yes. Cool. Have you
seen the gaffer? No.
		
00:32:03 --> 00:32:06
			Okay, so what do you do now, with
all these 789 10 million Muslims
		
00:32:06 --> 00:32:11
			in the USA? What do you do? Where
do you ship them to? Wherever you
		
00:32:11 --> 00:32:13
			ship them to? There's no Islam
there either.
		
00:32:16 --> 00:32:21
			So it's a catch 22. What I'm
calling the Allah MA and scholars
		
00:32:21 --> 00:32:25
			to think about are the
ramifications and the
		
00:32:25 --> 00:32:30
			repercussions of forcing the issue
and saying that these issues still
		
00:32:30 --> 00:32:38
			remain haram, which they do, if
you can ascertain. It is a you
		
00:32:38 --> 00:32:42
			know, what do you call it an
executive decision made by the
		
00:32:42 --> 00:32:46
			move these slides move things of
this country? We do need a
		
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			solution.
		
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			We don't have a solution is very,
very frustrating. Yeah. So we are
		
00:32:54 --> 00:32:57
			challenged, the Aloma would
challenge and, you know, there are
		
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			some issues there. You know, Abu
Hanifa actually says that the
		
00:33:01 --> 00:33:04
			Rebbe by the Muslim will have if
he doesn't have
		
00:33:06 --> 00:33:11
			a hadith that he has from McCalls
and know that Moodle Hadith, but
		
00:33:11 --> 00:33:16
			he's come to a theory. And this is
why the cases and there's an
		
00:33:16 --> 00:33:22
			academia in terms of developing a
legal theory, you have to be
		
00:33:22 --> 00:33:24
			consistent and coherent.
		
00:33:25 --> 00:33:31
			Otherwise, it's not a theory. And
legal juris is Mangusta. He knew
		
00:33:31 --> 00:33:36
			the legal theorist, and they think
the level of theory and then
		
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			implemented. So if the theory is
coherent, consistent, then you can
		
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			do this. And it will be valid. And
I believe that it seems that Abu
		
00:33:44 --> 00:33:48
			Hanifa has theory that it actually
is not rebar.
		
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			So he's not legalizing rebar. He's
saying it's not rebar in the first
		
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			place.
		
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			You understand? Yes. And I was
saying is halal or haram is saying
		
00:34:00 --> 00:34:02
			there's no hook on it.
		
00:34:03 --> 00:34:07
			It's a transaction that is not
seen as a transaction in the
		
00:34:09 --> 00:34:09
			world.
		
00:34:11 --> 00:34:17
			So that's why some people go to
him, Abu Hanifa and I think some
		
00:34:17 --> 00:34:23
			other orlimar like Qaradawi
Shefali. Juma two, three Allamah
		
00:34:23 --> 00:34:28
			from the subcontinent and Turkey.
Most of them they also arrived to
		
00:34:28 --> 00:34:33
			this idea that Abu Hanifa as
opinion would be the best option
		
00:34:33 --> 00:34:38
			for Muslims in the West. And that
is in taking and giving. Yeah,
		
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			okay. Now, the way forward with
these matters always begins at the
		
00:34:43 --> 00:34:47
			level of what you said is a
coherent theory that gets a buy in
		
00:34:47 --> 00:34:51
			from the scholarly class or the
intellectual class enough to
		
00:34:51 --> 00:34:57
			inform policies of organizations,
companies, etc. And then something
		
00:34:57 --> 00:34:59
			trickles down and it becomes a
reality of life. Yeah.
		
00:35:00 --> 00:35:03
			This is a great way to enter now
		
00:35:04 --> 00:35:10
			into another discussion on your
think tank, which is, I would say
		
00:35:10 --> 00:35:14
			it's partially a think tank and
partially a college. Right? DOD
		
00:35:14 --> 00:35:19
			will cost him. It's a place where
these ideas are being examined.
		
00:35:19 --> 00:35:24
			And these ideas are being flushed
out. And so let's now go from that
		
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			to the discussion on Donald Qassam
and you founded it in 1998. With
		
00:35:30 --> 00:35:32
			only a few students.
		
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			And now you have a full fledged
		
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			school, which offers a I would say
a master's right now.
		
00:35:45 --> 00:35:47
			We've gotten their accreditation
		
00:35:48 --> 00:35:53
			license to run as a college. And
your your the, the the building
		
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			here is quite impressive. It looks
like an entire campus. The bill,
		
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			I've never been to Donald Qasim.
So I don't know what where
		
00:36:02 --> 00:36:05
			where the classes take place. But
it looks here that you have
		
00:36:06 --> 00:36:12
			this looks to me as if it's a big
campus. So did you acquire a new
		
00:36:12 --> 00:36:16
			building? We haven't moved into it
yet. We will also within the next
		
00:36:16 --> 00:36:20
			month we'll be moving into it. Was
it a former college? It was it was
		
00:36:20 --> 00:36:26
			purpose built college? Yes. It
was, you know, a satellite campus
		
00:36:26 --> 00:36:30
			for Northern Illinois University.
Okay. And they will operate you
		
00:36:30 --> 00:36:35
			from there for many years. But
because of COVID, they had to
		
00:36:35 --> 00:36:40
			close down and they had to quickly
sell the building. So we now we
		
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			push the building. Okay, that's
wonderful. That's excellent. So
		
00:36:43 --> 00:36:49
			now, are you headed towards full
accreditation? Yes, in terms of
		
00:36:49 --> 00:36:54
			being able to offer a master's in
Islamic law, Islamic theology.
		
00:36:54 --> 00:36:59
			Okay. And let's talk about that
discussion. Because a lot of
		
00:36:59 --> 00:37:03
			people in the field, they tend to
have, there's two ways to go about
		
00:37:03 --> 00:37:08
			it in the Arabic world. They call
these my head Elia, which is like,
		
00:37:08 --> 00:37:14
			just a local education institute
that is not accredited by any
		
00:37:14 --> 00:37:19
			accreditation organization. And
then you have the official gemmy,
		
00:37:19 --> 00:37:24
			ATS, the official colleges that
are accredited. So what are the
		
00:37:24 --> 00:37:31
			pros and cons of both? Let's start
with the local institutes, let's
		
00:37:31 --> 00:37:34
			say down the road from you, you
have data set up, which I would
		
00:37:34 --> 00:37:38
			say is a look, it's an institute,
they're not seeking accreditation.
		
00:37:38 --> 00:37:44
			So what are the pros and cons of
getting accredited or not getting
		
00:37:44 --> 00:37:44
			credit.
		
00:37:46 --> 00:37:51
			The pros are you can you can
operate as a martial madrasa you
		
00:37:51 --> 00:37:56
			can operate as a seminary, people
don't need to be at a certain
		
00:37:56 --> 00:38:03
			standard. And you can graduate
people the way you see fit. And it
		
00:38:03 --> 00:38:09
			does interest people who want to
follow the the oral tradition. And
		
00:38:09 --> 00:38:13
			you get so many more subscribers,
I think, from the community to
		
00:38:13 --> 00:38:18
			that model. And it works. I mean,
it's the model we had in you know,
		
00:38:19 --> 00:38:24
			India, Pakistan, Bangladesh, it
basically only, as you say, the
		
00:38:24 --> 00:38:29
			local communities and you can you
can produce, you know, good
		
00:38:29 --> 00:38:33
			orlimar, but scholars from them,
what it doesn't allow you to do,
		
00:38:33 --> 00:38:36
			which a licensed college allows,
that's,
		
00:38:38 --> 00:38:43
			I wouldn't say as a negative, but
it does require you to do a few
		
00:38:43 --> 00:38:48
			more things. As a college if we
wrote an article as a college in
		
00:38:48 --> 00:38:54
			the US, and then it will be
accessed by almost everybody in
		
00:38:54 --> 00:38:58
			the US in academia, because now
your college, you have the title
		
00:38:58 --> 00:39:02
			of a college, I write an article
on resource, and everybody in the
		
00:39:02 --> 00:39:06
			US academic system will be able to
see it at least and read it.
		
00:39:07 --> 00:39:09
			Whereas you could not do that with
a mother's article.
		
00:39:11 --> 00:39:14
			You wouldn't have that credibility
in mainstream. So that's one of
		
00:39:14 --> 00:39:18
			the reasons we went after this. We
want it to be exposed in
		
00:39:18 --> 00:39:22
			mainstream, which is one of the
purpose of our closet, which we
		
00:39:22 --> 00:39:23
			can talk about if you want.
		
00:39:25 --> 00:39:30
			And then you know, the cons is
that you might get students who
		
00:39:30 --> 00:39:33
			come just for the degree and not
for the knowledge.
		
00:39:34 --> 00:39:39
			So that's a trade off. That sounds
like it covers everything, but I
		
00:39:39 --> 00:39:43
			want to ask about the devotional
element, a lot of times the non
		
00:39:43 --> 00:39:47
			accredited schools, they place a
lot of emphasis on the devotional
		
00:39:47 --> 00:39:53
			side of the dean. In other words,
they have a lot of sessions of DUA
		
00:39:53 --> 00:39:55
			and a bed and these types of
things.
		
00:39:57 --> 00:39:59
			Holding that the accredited
schools
		
00:40:00 --> 00:40:03
			tend to not have that aspect. Do
you think that's true?
		
00:40:04 --> 00:40:08
			I mean, it could be true. Depends
on the program you run. Even as an
		
00:40:08 --> 00:40:12
			accredited school, we have, you
know, complete prerogative to do
		
00:40:12 --> 00:40:16
			what we want to do. If you want
people to be just devoted and read
		
00:40:16 --> 00:40:21
			some, no offense to us. I mean,
that's really up to us what we
		
00:40:21 --> 00:40:26
			want to do. But here's the thing.
I think the primary concern for a
		
00:40:26 --> 00:40:32
			student of knowledge I thought it
should be in. Yes, yes. If he does
		
00:40:32 --> 00:40:37
			nothing, instead of studying, then
that's when the shaytaan it's all
		
00:40:37 --> 00:40:41
			do but always said that you should
study you should not be doing
		
00:40:41 --> 00:40:46
			Dicker when you're supposed to be
study, somehow. And that was that
		
00:40:46 --> 00:40:50
			that was that UCLA, and the ALMA
Durban marshana. There were
		
00:40:50 --> 00:40:53
			scholars, they were academics.
Some of them were geniuses, and,
		
00:40:53 --> 00:40:58
			but they also have their own
individual regiment in Baghdad and
		
00:40:59 --> 00:41:04
			something so we want to allow our
students to decide for themselves,
		
00:41:04 --> 00:41:07
			which way they want to go. So
we're not going to force the
		
00:41:07 --> 00:41:10
			issue, then for either for either
they're going to do them anyway.
		
00:41:11 --> 00:41:15
			And then a lot of people we do
encourage, no doubt, and we do
		
00:41:15 --> 00:41:19
			have sessions for them. Know that
but it's up to the individual
		
00:41:19 --> 00:41:22
			you're fighting. You have to
remember what's the backdrop here.
		
00:41:23 --> 00:41:27
			backdrop is the US where there's
nothing except for atheism,
		
00:41:28 --> 00:41:32
			agnosticism, there's nothing
except, you know, there's you
		
00:41:32 --> 00:41:35
			know, I wasn't gonna
		
00:41:36 --> 00:41:38
			post deconstructionism
		
00:41:39 --> 00:41:41
			where it's just a feeling
		
00:41:42 --> 00:41:47
			just a feeling there are no rules,
no boundaries. So we're housing
		
00:41:47 --> 00:41:51
			those students. They are the
contexts Yes. They're not products
		
00:41:51 --> 00:41:55
			of the mothers and then they come
in, oh, nice and polished and they
		
00:41:55 --> 00:41:55
			have Taco.
		
00:41:57 --> 00:41:59
			They come in very roll.
		
00:42:00 --> 00:42:03
			And if you want to mashallah give
them some discipline, then you
		
00:42:03 --> 00:42:08
			have to make sure that their focus
is learning. They do the fluoride,
		
00:42:08 --> 00:42:11
			and they take care of themselves,
they stay away from haram. That
		
00:42:11 --> 00:42:16
			is, I think enough Taqwa
everything else is totally
		
00:42:16 --> 00:42:19
			natural, it is good, it is
wonderful if you can do it, but
		
00:42:19 --> 00:42:22
			not at the expense of scholarship.
		
00:42:23 --> 00:42:27
			The Nuffield should not replace
scholarship they shouldn't be more
		
00:42:27 --> 00:42:30
			dedicated to knowledge and
learning and teaching and debating
		
00:42:31 --> 00:42:32
			than they are at this moment
		
00:42:33 --> 00:42:36
			to doing the no offense so that's
our model.
		
00:42:37 --> 00:42:42
			Okay, very good and Donald custom
right now is going to offer a
		
00:42:42 --> 00:42:44
			master's and right now you offer
		
00:42:45 --> 00:42:49
			courses that go for about four
years is that right? That's not
		
00:42:49 --> 00:42:56
			the intermediate level. Yeah, and
where we stop at a level which is
		
00:42:56 --> 00:42:58
			implemented either way by the
muggles
		
00:43:00 --> 00:43:06
			and then we have two year extra in
Hadith studies. We do the Hadith
		
00:43:06 --> 00:43:09
			and we have one year for the
completion which will be the
		
00:43:09 --> 00:43:14
			masters year. Okay, so that's up
to seven years, up seven years
		
00:43:14 --> 00:43:18
			program, okay. And that is full
time or part time. Not full time,
		
00:43:18 --> 00:43:20
			full time, masha Allah. Now,
		
00:43:21 --> 00:43:26
			when we talk about knowledge and
scholarship, every nation has
		
00:43:27 --> 00:43:31
			every Muslim nation has a Mufti
and has adopted if
		
00:43:33 --> 00:43:37
			non Muslim nations also are
Muslims and non Muslim nations
		
00:43:37 --> 00:43:42
			also need and have developed
federal councils. And it seems to
		
00:43:42 --> 00:43:47
			me that the federal Council's of
every non Muslim
		
00:43:48 --> 00:43:53
			country, most of the home outside
the Islamic countries, it seems to
		
00:43:53 --> 00:43:58
			be whoever established at first,
right? That's all the criterion
		
00:43:58 --> 00:44:01
			was that you establish it and you
called yourself the Federal
		
00:44:01 --> 00:44:05
			Council first. So you have federal
councils in England, in Europe and
		
00:44:05 --> 00:44:07
			in America that are
		
00:44:09 --> 00:44:14
			somewhat some in some, in many
respects, almost modernist in
		
00:44:14 --> 00:44:16
			their approaches, or that you
could say
		
00:44:18 --> 00:44:22
			it's a swimming pool, and not set
and define or Sue.
		
00:44:23 --> 00:44:27
			Could you talk to us about the
need for federal Council's you
		
00:44:27 --> 00:44:30
			want your assessment of current
federal Council's
		
00:44:31 --> 00:44:36
			there Fitow, or they're also more
importantly, their methodology?
		
00:44:36 --> 00:44:42
			And do we need a Federal Council
that is rooted in the in the form
		
00:44:42 --> 00:44:45
			of that and with a clear will so
		
00:44:47 --> 00:44:51
			well, Donald Clawson has done
Lifta as you know, we have a data
		
00:44:51 --> 00:44:55
			lifter where we have you know,
four or five movies sitting in
		
00:44:55 --> 00:44:59
			questions that people ask and it's
running very well not run off
		
00:45:00 --> 00:45:03
			So there, we don't have a problem
with that methodology is very
		
00:45:03 --> 00:45:07
			strictly Hanafy. Sometimes we do
go outside the mother, but if
		
00:45:07 --> 00:45:13
			there's a very, very dire need,
our methodology is purely Hanafy.
		
00:45:14 --> 00:45:22
			And we train our muftis that way,
as far as the national councils. I
		
00:45:22 --> 00:45:26
			think they could honestly they
need to know the form of I'm
		
00:45:26 --> 00:45:30
			saying but when they say the
former that they must have someone
		
00:45:30 --> 00:45:33
			who is an expert in each month
have
		
00:45:34 --> 00:45:37
			they read books from other
modalities and then incorporated
		
00:45:37 --> 00:45:40
			No, there has to be a human being,
like Mamelukes
		
00:45:42 --> 00:45:45
			system where they had called is
that Hanafy call the shopping
		
00:45:45 --> 00:45:48
			quality monitoring call the
humbler quality and they weighed
		
00:45:48 --> 00:45:52
			in one square, and you could go to
any one of them if you're from
		
00:45:52 --> 00:45:57
			that mother, something similar
akin to that, but I would want the
		
00:45:57 --> 00:46:04
			council to be very robust. In
terms of its scholarship, this one
		
00:46:04 --> 00:46:09
			person was a scholar in Maliki
100. They are genuine they
		
00:46:11 --> 00:46:16
			qualified, they do show a sense of
Taqwa themselves, in their
		
00:46:16 --> 00:46:21
			behavior, in their mannerisms,
etc. So that is something that I
		
00:46:21 --> 00:46:27
			think would be useful for the US.
Yeah.
		
00:46:28 --> 00:46:32
			is useful. There's a place where
you have scholarship in action.
		
00:46:32 --> 00:46:37
			And it's not just based on you
know, there's Deadhorse.
		
00:46:39 --> 00:46:39
			Aurora,
		
00:46:41 --> 00:46:42
			Aurora,
		
00:46:43 --> 00:46:47
			but we waited until it became a
dirt road, right? Yeah. You can't
		
00:46:47 --> 00:46:52
			use as well. So that's all so yes,
it is. Yeah. Yeah.
		
00:46:53 --> 00:46:59
			And we see in how the recently,
one of the first times that Imams
		
00:46:59 --> 00:47:04
			and scholars got together in mass,
and puts out a statement. Of
		
00:47:04 --> 00:47:06
			course, I'm talking about the
Navigating different statement,
		
00:47:06 --> 00:47:09
			many said it was late. But
nonetheless, it was one of the
		
00:47:09 --> 00:47:11
			first times that you had
		
00:47:12 --> 00:47:13
			so many
		
00:47:15 --> 00:47:19
			dot and scholars and Imams sign
off on something, and it had a
		
00:47:19 --> 00:47:25
			tremendous impact, even when it
was late, nonetheless, it had a
		
00:47:25 --> 00:47:29
			massive impact. And there's a lot
of evidence for that impact. Okay,
		
00:47:29 --> 00:47:32
			I'm still on their chat. And
they're constantly posting
		
00:47:32 --> 00:47:36
			articles citing their statement,
and how masajid have altered
		
00:47:36 --> 00:47:40
			policies, organization have
altered their policies, based upon
		
00:47:40 --> 00:47:45
			just that one, seeing all these
names, they trusted the statement
		
00:47:45 --> 00:47:50
			and they acted upon it. So there's
a lot of power when that many
		
00:47:50 --> 00:47:57
			Imams come together. Now, this
happened privately by once elder
		
00:47:57 --> 00:48:02
			scholar going around and
collecting maybe about 50 or 40 or
		
00:48:02 --> 00:48:07
			50 names, and then they opened it
up after that. But don't you think
		
00:48:07 --> 00:48:10
			that we need something like this
that's almost like an official
		
00:48:10 --> 00:48:16
			body? That is producing such
statements on matters of
		
00:48:16 --> 00:48:19
			difference with it or on matters
that should not have any
		
00:48:19 --> 00:48:21
			differences of opinion within
Islam?
		
00:48:22 --> 00:48:27
			For for the regular folk and for
the masajid to rely upon? Don't we
		
00:48:27 --> 00:48:28
			need something like that as a
permanent body?
		
00:48:31 --> 00:48:36
			I mean, a national body, there
definitely is a need and the only
		
00:48:36 --> 00:48:41
			question will be, you know, from
those who are not so pro
		
00:48:41 --> 00:48:42
			orthodoxy.
		
00:48:43 --> 00:48:47
			People will complain that you're
creating an orthodoxy which may
		
00:48:47 --> 00:48:50
			not be in the best interest of
American progressive Muslims.
		
00:48:51 --> 00:48:54
			Who wants to subscribe to an
orthodoxy when we have freedom of
		
00:48:54 --> 00:48:59
			religion, freedom, freedom
whatsoever. So that's the only I
		
00:48:59 --> 00:49:03
			think, you know, negative, if it
is an attitude, which I don't
		
00:49:03 --> 00:49:08
			think it is that you might face if
you did propose such an idea.
		
00:49:09 --> 00:49:13
			The issue that is what is what you
said you hit the right mark, and I
		
00:49:13 --> 00:49:18
			think that's it. So it must be an
HMI issue. It must be an issue eg
		
00:49:18 --> 00:49:23
			Ma. Everybody agrees with the
conclusion, correct? Definitely.
		
00:49:23 --> 00:49:27
			That should be the case where we
have a group of Allamah if there's
		
00:49:27 --> 00:49:32
			an Asian Maori issue, then we will
say it is my consensus and this is
		
00:49:32 --> 00:49:37
			the Muslim position. So that's
fine. We can do that. Underneath
		
00:49:37 --> 00:49:41
			each other so many speculative
ideas. I wouldn't want this body
		
00:49:41 --> 00:49:46
			to just say okay, because we
agree, it is most certain it is,
		
00:49:47 --> 00:49:51
			you know, good for the community.
And therefore we will endorse it
		
00:49:51 --> 00:49:54
			or not endorse it the guiding that
takes away.
		
00:49:55 --> 00:50:00
			So for all those listening and
it's Mary issue means rig
		
00:50:00 --> 00:50:04
			Are arts, a text from the Quran,
or whatsoever that hadith upon
		
00:50:04 --> 00:50:08
			which there is no difference in
its meaning, and there is no room
		
00:50:08 --> 00:50:12
			to have an opinion about it.
Opinions will regard the Gnosis
		
00:50:12 --> 00:50:17
			that have speculation, or they
their transmission is up for
		
00:50:17 --> 00:50:22
			discussion, the nature of its
transmission. And so an HMI issue
		
00:50:22 --> 00:50:26
			is something that no two Muslims
can have a discussion about, or
		
00:50:26 --> 00:50:30
			debate. Now, let's move to the
last subject of today's interview.
		
00:50:30 --> 00:50:33
			And I thank you so much for your
time, I know that you wrote you
		
00:50:33 --> 00:50:36
			run a mile ahead in a school and a
college. And this takes a lot of
		
00:50:36 --> 00:50:41
			time. So we're very thankful for
that. The last subject is
		
00:50:41 --> 00:50:46
			something else that you are an
expert in. And that regards the
		
00:50:46 --> 00:50:51
			spiritual science of dream
interpretation. Can you tell us In
		
00:50:51 --> 00:50:55
			what respect is dream
interpretation, a knowledge and In
		
00:50:55 --> 00:51:00
			what respect? Is it a gift that
Allah gives to somebody? Are there
		
00:51:00 --> 00:51:05
			thought websites or established
principles in this field?
		
00:51:07 --> 00:51:10
			The Dream Interpretation mashallah
comes from the Quran there are so
		
00:51:10 --> 00:51:11
			many dreams in the Quran,
		
00:51:12 --> 00:51:17
			sunnah used to France, you know,
is very famous. In this story of a
		
00:51:17 --> 00:51:18
			with a B.
		
00:51:19 --> 00:51:22
			There's a mention of a dream of
the prophets, Allah. So then
		
00:51:22 --> 00:51:26
			there's the old here, Ibrahim
Alayhi. Salam is mine. So there
		
00:51:26 --> 00:51:29
			are definitely landmarks, I think,
in terms of knowledge and the
		
00:51:29 --> 00:51:33
			prophets. And also there was old
sunnah was that he would ask
		
00:51:33 --> 00:51:38
			people, if they had any dreams
after fajr. If they did, then he
		
00:51:38 --> 00:51:42
			would interpret them. And if they
didn't, he would say I had this
		
00:51:42 --> 00:51:47
			dream, and he would interpret them
and sometimes Ubercart would come
		
00:51:47 --> 00:51:51
			and say, may I interpret this
dream for you? And so yes, it's
		
00:51:51 --> 00:51:54
			definitely a science, it's
definitely a knowledge that needs
		
00:51:54 --> 00:51:54
			to be
		
00:51:56 --> 00:52:00
			revived, is almost dead. But there
are definitely rules and
		
00:52:00 --> 00:52:06
			regulations that the Sahaba knew.
And they handed it down mostly to
		
00:52:06 --> 00:52:10
			ethnicity, ethnicity and as you
know, Tommy gray scholar is the
		
00:52:10 --> 00:52:15
			Imam of dream interpretation. And
he had dictated many who sold to
		
00:52:15 --> 00:52:20
			his students and then later on
other Korean came and they've
		
00:52:20 --> 00:52:26
			written books on the law, but also
the rules and regulations of dream
		
00:52:26 --> 00:52:29
			interpretation. And they
categorize them according to the
		
00:52:29 --> 00:52:33
			names of things a smell or shear
basically.
		
00:52:34 --> 00:52:37
			So you know, you'll have the
animal kingdom you'll have the
		
00:52:37 --> 00:52:41
			vegetable kingdom, you'll have the
what you call it land animals, the
		
00:52:41 --> 00:52:46
			animals, you'll have food and you
have clothing and you have parts
		
00:52:46 --> 00:52:49
			of the body you have relatives,
different types of relatives mean
		
00:52:49 --> 00:52:55
			this is that and once it is very
well organized in the largest
		
00:52:55 --> 00:52:59
			scholars, they have kept it alive
and we should definitely keep it
		
00:52:59 --> 00:53:04
			alive and can it be studied? Yes,
but you need a certain amount of
		
00:53:04 --> 00:53:05
			Malacca.
		
00:53:07 --> 00:53:11
			Dexterity in the Arabic language
you need to know the dreams of the
		
00:53:11 --> 00:53:13
			Quran, Hadith, you need to know
the stories of the Quran and
		
00:53:13 --> 00:53:18
			Hadith. And you need the language,
you need both the language of the
		
00:53:18 --> 00:53:23
			context you need the language of
Arabic has so many dreams has come
		
00:53:23 --> 00:53:26
			out from the word in Arabic.
		
00:53:28 --> 00:53:29
			Some rules
		
00:53:32 --> 00:53:34
			it develops through soccer, but
		
00:53:35 --> 00:53:38
			you can't learn it in college.
		
00:53:39 --> 00:53:43
			But you still need Sahaba you'd
have to sit with somebody who does
		
00:53:43 --> 00:53:46
			dream interpretation and he'll
give you the nuances because
		
00:53:46 --> 00:53:51
			there's so in one entry for a
dream perhaps like milk, you might
		
00:53:51 --> 00:53:57
			find five now applications it can
be this, this and that. So the
		
00:53:57 --> 00:54:00
			Alim was with you will say in this
case, it means this in this case
		
00:54:00 --> 00:54:05
			is it's a lot of creativity there.
And it just changed people's
		
00:54:05 --> 00:54:06
			lives.
		
00:54:07 --> 00:54:11
			You give the wrong interface
interpretation. God forbid, guys
		
00:54:11 --> 00:54:11
			life is done.
		
00:54:15 --> 00:54:18
			The Hadith of the Prophet
sallallahu alayhi wa salam, the
		
00:54:18 --> 00:54:22
			dream is on the wings of a bird.
If it falls, or if it is
		
00:54:22 --> 00:54:26
			interpreted it falls means it
happens. Does it mean if it is
		
00:54:26 --> 00:54:30
			interpreted correctly? It will
happen or does it mean any
		
00:54:30 --> 00:54:34
			interpretation of it will happen?
Well, if it's a false
		
00:54:34 --> 00:54:39
			interpretation, it won't happen.
Okay. So the wheat here or the
		
00:54:39 --> 00:54:44
			understanding here is that tuck do
is that if it is interpreted
		
00:54:44 --> 00:54:46
			correctly, if the obit beats
		
00:54:49 --> 00:54:54
			as much as possible, we don't
recall exactness in within the
		
00:54:54 --> 00:54:57
			realm within the target then it
will happen then it will happen.
		
00:54:57 --> 00:54:59
			And what is the level of yucky
		
00:55:00 --> 00:55:05
			In, let's take a hypothetical a
person has a dream, a veteran
		
00:55:06 --> 00:55:10
			dream interpreter, or even two or
three, some people, they take
		
00:55:10 --> 00:55:14
			their dream to two and three and
four interpreters to see where the
		
00:55:14 --> 00:55:18
			Tafseer lines up. First of all,
the first question, Is that a
		
00:55:18 --> 00:55:23
			correct practice? And number two?
Secondly, let us say in the
		
00:55:23 --> 00:55:28
			hypothetical, they all interpret
something, such as an event that
		
00:55:28 --> 00:55:31
			would happen to the person, what
level of certainty would that
		
00:55:31 --> 00:55:37
			individual now have in that event
occurring? Is it Kathy? Is, is it
		
00:55:37 --> 00:55:42
			still funny? Is it certain? Or is
it still speculative? Maybe? Do
		
00:55:42 --> 00:55:45
			they have a belief? Or is it a
maybe? Yeah, I mean, I mean, in
		
00:55:45 --> 00:55:50
			the dream itself in London, it is
speculative. He can't assume is
		
00:55:50 --> 00:55:55
			why he's not why. Correct. He does
assume as well, he didn't last a
		
00:55:55 --> 00:55:58
			bit. As I said, You can't do that.
		
00:56:01 --> 00:56:04
			And the interpretation then is
also done the it's not the
		
00:56:04 --> 00:56:09
			interpreter may make a mistake,
which is fine and he will be
		
00:56:09 --> 00:56:12
			rewarded for the mistake he makes
if if he is qualified, basically.
		
00:56:13 --> 00:56:17
			Thirdly, in the amount of trust he
must put in the interpretation is
		
00:56:17 --> 00:56:18
			really up to you.
		
00:56:19 --> 00:56:24
			Individual that there's no
orthodox statement, which says you
		
00:56:24 --> 00:56:27
			must believe in the interpretation
is really up to you.
		
00:56:28 --> 00:56:35
			Firstly, you have to make a choice
based on your choice, not based on
		
00:56:35 --> 00:56:39
			the interpretation. So there's no
Amazon Yo yo, the macula
		
00:56:40 --> 00:56:44
			interpreter is not the macula you
are responsible to do what you
		
00:56:44 --> 00:56:49
			need to do. The guide was THE
INTERPRETER It is guiding you this
		
00:56:49 --> 00:56:53
			way or this way. So you're still
responsible action. That's why the
		
00:56:53 --> 00:56:56
			many people make a mistake. They
stopped blaming the dream and
		
00:56:56 --> 00:57:02
			interpreting direct and what about
this concept of asking three and
		
00:57:02 --> 00:57:07
			four and five to ensure that the
meaning is sound and not one of
		
00:57:07 --> 00:57:10
			them has not aired in his fatwah
or in his interpretation?
		
00:57:12 --> 00:57:13
			Dream Interpretation hopping,
		
00:57:15 --> 00:57:18
			not a good practice, okay. If you
know somebody in the community
		
00:57:18 --> 00:57:22
			stick with that person, because it
will give you some consistency.
		
00:57:22 --> 00:57:26
			The reason for that is that that
person knows you. Yes. Now, would
		
00:57:26 --> 00:57:30
			we say then that the the Prophet
sallallahu alayhi wa sallam called
		
00:57:30 --> 00:57:36
			it 146 of the way would then we
say that as a sliver of a way that
		
00:57:36 --> 00:57:37
			is done the nature
		
00:57:38 --> 00:57:40
			the dream is a type of what he'd
done in nature.
		
00:57:42 --> 00:57:44
			It is 146
		
00:57:45 --> 00:57:47
			Yeah, I'm the MUA
		
00:57:48 --> 00:57:58
			and Naboo Marcia, as you know, if
it is a Hadith which is part of
		
00:57:58 --> 00:58:03
			number one, these also can be
depending on this authenticity
		
00:58:03 --> 00:58:10
			building such as correct good
money. So it is fair to say or
		
00:58:10 --> 00:58:12
			accurate to say that it is a type
of
		
00:58:13 --> 00:58:18
			a bottlemen Allah or why not maybe
Of course not why as in revelation
		
00:58:18 --> 00:58:19
			of the law
		
00:58:20 --> 00:58:25
			but it is of a funny nature even
if it is a just like a macabre for
		
00:58:25 --> 00:58:30
			all Macassar fed to be categorized
as money in nature. Oh is subject
		
00:58:30 --> 00:58:32
			to interpretation. Wonderful.
		
00:58:33 --> 00:58:38
			Let's take one final thing and
that is what is your will sia or
		
00:58:38 --> 00:58:43
			counsel to a lot of the young
students of knowledge out there
		
00:58:43 --> 00:58:44
			who are watching this
		
00:58:46 --> 00:58:51
			who are trying to advance in their
Deen a general will see Yeah, I'm
		
00:58:51 --> 00:58:52
			for us all.
		
00:58:53 --> 00:58:54
			You want like mine was a Yeah.
		
00:58:56 --> 00:58:59
			I'm very, very passionately Hanafy
so Okay,
		
00:59:00 --> 00:59:03
			I'll see you come Hanafy and stick
with it as
		
00:59:04 --> 00:59:07
			well. Some of us here are smiling.
Mashallah. So
		
00:59:08 --> 00:59:09
			that's my Adi, we'll see you that.
		
00:59:10 --> 00:59:13
			Pick the right mother. You'll be
happy.
		
00:59:15 --> 00:59:15
			I'm just joking.
		
00:59:16 --> 00:59:17
			Well
		
00:59:20 --> 00:59:24
			yeah, study hard. Make sure that
you have the other of the keytab
		
00:59:24 --> 00:59:28
			above the face where you learn and
above the share your way even if
		
00:59:28 --> 00:59:32
			you disagree them actually
maintain that don't become that
		
00:59:32 --> 00:59:35
			Western that you don't like
somebody if you disagree with
		
00:59:35 --> 00:59:39
			somebody. You don't you don't have
license to you know, hurt people.
		
00:59:39 --> 00:59:43
			You don't have a license to hate
people stay within that framework
		
00:59:43 --> 00:59:47
			of the above l LM has to come with
him.
		
00:59:49 --> 00:59:53
			tolerance to Subhan Allah give
them until they come together. You
		
00:59:53 --> 00:59:59
			can't separate that is the most
important is somehow a web for
		
01:00:00 --> 01:00:05
			Senator the the process understand
that my Lord taught me and he did
		
01:00:05 --> 01:00:08
			a great job in teaching me adults
I think that's the most important
		
01:00:08 --> 01:00:14
			that you don't change your your
lifestyle you don't change your
		
01:00:14 --> 01:00:17
			paradigm you don't change your
attitude or your culture in
		
01:00:17 --> 01:00:21
			assuming that since you were
studying universities and then
		
01:00:21 --> 01:00:27
			this reason that he don't like the
people who brought you here
		
01:00:28 --> 01:00:31
			have to maintain that dialogue and
connection with them so that's
		
01:00:31 --> 01:00:35
			very important at a social level
at the individual level obviously
		
01:00:35 --> 01:00:40
			to study as hard as you can burn
the midnight oil make dua do some
		
01:00:40 --> 01:00:44
			paper and make sure you have a
role for the budget in your life.
		
01:00:45 --> 01:00:47
			All of that which comes within
		
01:00:48 --> 01:00:54
			Masha Allah, Allah give us all
Baraka action. I mean, perfect. As
		
01:00:54 --> 01:00:56
			the student of Abu Hanifa said,
		
01:00:57 --> 01:01:01
			I'll move Rahim on Boehner early
so we ask a lot of knowledge is
		
01:01:01 --> 01:01:01
			like
		
01:01:03 --> 01:01:06
			almost a kinship relationship
between the two people and since
		
01:01:06 --> 01:01:10
			we're lovers of knowledge, we want
to always be in the good graces
		
01:01:10 --> 01:01:14
			and in constant connection with
the elders in our community also
		
01:01:14 --> 01:01:17
			with the tulip and everybody who
is connected to this subject and
		
01:01:17 --> 01:01:22
			we ask Allah Tada to let us live
and die on good terms and in good
		
01:01:22 --> 01:01:25
			relations with all the people of
knowledge involved in the Sunnah.
		
01:01:26 --> 01:01:31
			And in Dawa and in teaching and in
researching. So just echo luck and
		
01:01:31 --> 01:01:35
			so much for for taking the time
out. And hopefully next meeting
		
01:01:35 --> 01:01:38
			will be in person in Chicago but
in the daytime.
		
01:01:39 --> 01:01:42
			more than welcome and we'd love to
host you if you ever on the East
		
01:01:42 --> 01:01:48
			Coast trip or an East Coast tour
then please in we'll be ready to
		
01:01:48 --> 01:01:49
			host you jolla
		
01:01:51 --> 01:01:55
			Welcome to Sokoloff Karen Subhanak
Hola, como Byham, Deke Michelle
		
01:01:55 --> 01:01:59
			Illa Illa and stuff that are going
to be they call us in Santa Fe,
		
01:01:59 --> 01:02:02
			acoustic il Edina. ammonoid
Minnesota hard to watch also but
		
01:02:02 --> 01:02:06
			Huck, whatsoever so the sub was
salam aleikum wa rahmatullah
		
01:02:07 --> 01:02:08
			law.
		
01:02:10 --> 01:02:15
			All right, everybody. That was the
interview that we've been waiting
		
01:02:15 --> 01:02:18
			for, and had planned for some
weeks now. And it's always really
		
01:02:18 --> 01:02:20
			an honor and a blessing to be able
to have
		
01:02:21 --> 01:02:26
			one of the elders and one of the
seniors and one of the scholars
		
01:02:26 --> 01:02:30
			with us here on the program, and
we really, as I said, at the end,
		
01:02:30 --> 01:02:36
			really we want to live and die in
good relations with the Muslims,
		
01:02:36 --> 01:02:39
			and especially the co author of
the Muslims are edited Quran,
		
01:02:39 --> 01:02:43
			which is sometimes assumed to be
edited LM right?
		
01:02:44 --> 01:02:48
			Quran, home Allah Allah who has
sought of the Prophet sallallahu
		
01:02:48 --> 01:02:51
			alayhi wa sallam said the people
of the Quran they are the people
		
01:02:51 --> 01:02:56
			of Allah and his specific, those
drawn near and the automat have so
		
01:02:56 --> 01:03:01
			many praises and virtues in the
Quran. So that have no end to
		
01:03:01 --> 01:03:06
			them. So let's now turn to
comments and questions. Let's
		
01:03:06 --> 01:03:10
			start with our not gonna say
studio audience but close to that
		
01:03:11 --> 01:03:12
			guy. We have
		
01:03:13 --> 01:03:16
			seven guys here today. So what do
you guys think you have any
		
01:03:16 --> 01:03:18
			comments or questions?
		
01:03:22 --> 01:03:25
			Speeches, Masha, Allah was humble.
		
01:03:27 --> 01:03:31
			He has a very diverse background
and you have here the UK body and
		
01:03:31 --> 01:03:33
			element the dream interpretation
of Islamic finance element,
		
01:03:34 --> 01:03:38
			institution building element. I
mean, these things are across the
		
01:03:38 --> 01:03:38
			board.
		
01:03:42 --> 01:03:44
			Your institution that you're
headed to
		
01:03:46 --> 01:03:46
			prompt
		
01:03:47 --> 01:03:50
			um, there's a lot to take in. It's
a lot of ticket.
		
01:03:52 --> 01:03:57
			All right, what else? Let's see.
Let's go straight to the
		
01:03:59 --> 01:04:02
			serif font Troy wants to know
who's in the studio is getting
		
01:04:02 --> 01:04:06
			jealous, because history fan tell
us. He came here last summer. Wow.
		
01:04:06 --> 01:04:08
			That was one summer ago that we
had Sharif here.
		
01:04:09 --> 01:04:15
			Sharif Antonio is from Detroit
chief Latif is from Atlanta.
		
01:04:16 --> 01:04:17
			Okay, let's see.
		
01:04:18 --> 01:04:21
			I think the guys that are in
Chicago, they're they're pretty
		
01:04:21 --> 01:04:24
			lucky they got Darussalam and
really literally just down the
		
01:04:24 --> 01:04:29
			road is total custom you could
probably take Could you take a jog
		
01:04:29 --> 01:04:30
			down there or ride a bike?
		
01:04:32 --> 01:04:34
			710 minutes if you took a bike.
Yeah.
		
01:04:35 --> 01:04:37
			And daata Salam, it's
		
01:04:38 --> 01:04:41
			it's a transmission based and it's
		
01:04:42 --> 01:04:46
			devotion based. That's the feeling
I get when I'm there. Right. And
		
01:04:46 --> 01:04:50
			Donald costume is academic based.
And as he said, We they became
		
01:04:52 --> 01:04:54
			they're going for the
accreditation so that
		
01:04:56 --> 01:05:00
			so that they could when they put
out something it'll be
		
01:05:00 --> 01:05:04
			read by the academics of the
worlds and Islam is always going
		
01:05:04 --> 01:05:07
			to have Muslims are going to be in
every field every one of the signs
		
01:05:07 --> 01:05:13
			and so like that Islam has its its
a truth is that its people are
		
01:05:13 --> 01:05:17
			everywhere right it gets people
are everywhere you go to the
		
01:05:17 --> 01:05:23
			masala of any hospital and you
have doctors walking in and you
		
01:05:23 --> 01:05:27
			have cooks walking in and you have
nurse a nurse a nurse is walking
		
01:05:27 --> 01:05:30
			in and all the different
categories of let me know that
		
01:05:30 --> 01:05:33
			have like four categories, not
just nursing, you'd have doctor a
		
01:05:33 --> 01:05:36
			nurse that was the whole hospital
right now it's like physician
		
01:05:36 --> 01:05:40
			assistant. Now it's like what else
are the categories? There's nurse
		
01:05:40 --> 01:05:41
			practitioner
		
01:05:43 --> 01:05:46
			as opposed to what a nurse that's
on strike, right? Nurse
		
01:05:46 --> 01:05:51
			Practitioner registered nurse the
nurse that's not most doesn't
		
01:05:52 --> 01:05:56
			and once practicing ones not
registered nurse, nurse
		
01:05:56 --> 01:05:59
			practitioner or physician's
assistant, what's the ranking
		
01:05:59 --> 01:06:01
			here? Pa is the top right
		
01:06:02 --> 01:06:06
			and then you have so then you have
the hospitals then you have the so
		
01:06:06 --> 01:06:10
			many different levels now you go
into the masala first of all these
		
01:06:10 --> 01:06:14
			these multifaith chapels, just
call them homeless, because no one
		
01:06:14 --> 01:06:17
			uses it except us. Right? Every
once in a while you see someone in
		
01:06:17 --> 01:06:21
			there meditating. He's going
through a phase when he realizes
		
01:06:21 --> 01:06:24
			stuff is nonsense doesn't work.
And really all he's doing is
		
01:06:24 --> 01:06:28
			listening to soft music. Right?
They don't come into the place is
		
01:06:28 --> 01:06:33
			just a masala there's nothing
else. Just rocks. Rocks. No, you
		
01:06:33 --> 01:06:34
			remove them.
		
01:06:35 --> 01:06:39
			And you they have they have a
chapel.
		
01:06:41 --> 01:06:46
			Like, you know the pulpit? Who has
mess in the church? Do they
		
01:06:46 --> 01:06:49
			actually have mess? Do they have a
speech that Christians give a
		
01:06:49 --> 01:06:53
			speech on Sunday morning? Who's
going to that? Right? It's just
		
01:06:53 --> 01:06:56
			there, right? It's just there
because it's, they imagine that
		
01:06:56 --> 01:07:00
			it's Christian dominant now,
practically speaking is rugs
		
01:07:00 --> 01:07:04
			everywhere and Messiah if used.
Right? In other words, like
		
01:07:04 --> 01:07:06
			someone read from this?
		
01:07:08 --> 01:07:09
			Go ahead.
		
01:07:10 --> 01:07:14
			So you mentioned that thing about
the devotional aspect, or about no
		
01:07:14 --> 01:07:18
			weapon? Yes. It's up to the
student. Yeah, your advice be for
		
01:07:18 --> 01:07:20
			somebody who's well, I was going
to ask this question, but I never
		
01:07:20 --> 01:07:21
			really got the chance to
		
01:07:22 --> 01:07:27
			hold on, let me take this amazing
sip of sugary cream.
		
01:07:30 --> 01:07:33
			Muslim gives you a gift, you have
to take a diet or no diet. That's
		
01:07:33 --> 01:07:33
			my excuse.
		
01:07:35 --> 01:07:39
			I was gonna say this, in the post
deconstructionist world, I didn't
		
01:07:39 --> 01:07:41
			get a chance to ask this question.
But
		
01:07:42 --> 01:07:43
			it's all about feelings, right?
		
01:07:44 --> 01:07:49
			So what is the cure? I think the
cure to that is, is really what he
		
01:07:49 --> 01:07:53
			said 75% in the sense of I am.
		
01:07:54 --> 01:08:00
			Alright, is what pins down. It's
like, it's it's a bolt that bolts
		
01:08:00 --> 01:08:05
			it down into the concrete. So that
you reach a point to say, I know I
		
01:08:05 --> 01:08:10
			feel this. But a and knowledge is
what makes you have that self
		
01:08:10 --> 01:08:16
			awareness that I'm feeling this.
And it becomes a practice of a
		
01:08:16 --> 01:08:17
			type of maraca in a sense
		
01:08:19 --> 01:08:23
			that I'm feeling this, that's
knowledge. That's a practice that
		
01:08:23 --> 01:08:27
			you learn to do. Alright, I'm
feeling this. Now. Let's weigh the
		
01:08:27 --> 01:08:30
			feeling. And let's look at the
causes. Firstly, let's weigh the
		
01:08:30 --> 01:08:34
			feeling. Is this a feeling that's
good? In the shittier acceptable?
		
01:08:34 --> 01:08:38
			Is Allah pleased with this or not?
If I was to take this to a logical
		
01:08:38 --> 01:08:42
			conclusion, that's knowledge
number number three, what's the
		
01:08:42 --> 01:08:46
			solution to this feeling? So why
am I agitated today? To feel envy?
		
01:08:46 --> 01:08:49
			Why do I feel to from whom do I
feel? Oh, I feel insulted or I
		
01:08:49 --> 01:08:51
			feel envy. Okay, why?
		
01:08:52 --> 01:08:57
			Because someone so didn't give me
attention. SO and SO. did better.
		
01:08:57 --> 01:09:01
			Okay, so now we assess that
feeling. So knowledge and feelings
		
01:09:01 --> 01:09:04
			do have a convergence. And I think
that's what I aim to solve.
		
01:09:05 --> 01:09:09
			Islamic psychology, what have you.
That's where the cross of the path
		
01:09:09 --> 01:09:14
			is, right? And where devotion and
knowledge converge, is this
		
01:09:14 --> 01:09:19
			knowledge of maraca and self
assessment and Maha Sabha? I'm
		
01:09:19 --> 01:09:21
			feeling this, okay?
		
01:09:22 --> 01:09:25
			This is unlawful if we take it to
its logical conclusion.
		
01:09:26 --> 01:09:31
			This is the cure. The cure of
hesed is another thought pattern,
		
01:09:31 --> 01:09:36
			the thought pattern what who did
who gave them all that? And what
		
01:09:36 --> 01:09:40
			is it even it's dunya. What do I
care? This dunya so short, this
		
01:09:40 --> 01:09:42
			contemplation is really a branch
of knowledge.
		
01:09:45 --> 01:09:49
			But then I would say that 25% of
it and he did say that he's not
		
01:09:49 --> 01:09:54
			ignoring all no effort, but you
putting knowledge first. And I'm
		
01:09:54 --> 01:09:58
			telling you that he is he's right
about this that knowledge is
		
01:09:58 --> 01:09:59
			something that lasts and
		
01:10:00 --> 01:10:03
			stuff grows out of it, even if it
seems painstaking at the moment.
		
01:10:04 --> 01:10:09
			But the devotional aspect of the
good aspect of it is what cures
		
01:10:09 --> 01:10:12
			the feeling, it will cure, you can
have a lot of knowledge about
		
01:10:12 --> 01:10:15
			yourself. It's thick, and that is
the medicine. Right? And when you
		
01:10:15 --> 01:10:19
			take that thicket as a medicine,
that's where the feeling element
		
01:10:19 --> 01:10:22
			comes in, we can alter that
feeling. Vickers alters that
		
01:10:22 --> 01:10:26
			feeling right thicker will lead
you to the fact that I need this,
		
01:10:26 --> 01:10:28
			right like knowledge will lead you
to the fact that I need this
		
01:10:28 --> 01:10:31
			medicine. But those people who
just go on thicker, the thicker
		
01:10:31 --> 01:10:34
			thicker and they don't read, they
don't study and they have an
		
01:10:34 --> 01:10:37
			antagonism towards thinking
towards reading towards the suburb
		
01:10:37 --> 01:10:42
			that it takes to read and study.
Right? They're going to suffer,
		
01:10:42 --> 01:10:46
			right? They're going to suffer so
So knowledge really leads us to
		
01:10:46 --> 01:10:48
			the place where
		
01:10:49 --> 01:10:52
			it gives us the solutions that
vicar is,
		
01:10:53 --> 01:10:58
			is a cure. And that's where this
deconstruct post deconstruction
		
01:10:58 --> 01:11:00
			era and where it's just about what
you feel.
		
01:11:02 --> 01:11:06
			That's my that's, that's sort of
like the antidote to that. Right?
		
01:11:06 --> 01:11:11
			And I think Muslims practicing
Muslims, they, their life and what
		
01:11:11 --> 01:11:16
			they're doing is a demonstration
that we have an antidote to this
		
01:11:16 --> 01:11:19
			deconstruction, this post
deconstruction of a world and
		
01:11:19 --> 01:11:22
			worldview, and the result of what
is leading people to just because
		
01:11:22 --> 01:11:26
			you feel some way alright, what
have a fox feels like a hen? Are
		
01:11:26 --> 01:11:30
			you going to let it in? Are you
going to let it into the pen? So
		
01:11:30 --> 01:11:32
			now you have boys feeling like
girls, and then they're getting
		
01:11:32 --> 01:11:35
			raped? Girls getting raped?
		
01:11:36 --> 01:11:39
			So all this from the
deconstruction feeling based
		
01:11:39 --> 01:11:44
			worlds, and we're the opposite,
right? We assess our feelings, and
		
01:11:44 --> 01:11:47
			some feelings. You let them grow
and you keep feeding them and you
		
01:11:47 --> 01:11:50
			keep feeding them in some
feelings. You don't like certain
		
01:11:51 --> 01:11:54
			behaviors you cannot do in public.
If you do you destroy society like
		
01:11:54 --> 01:11:58
			defecation? What's happening in
California? Right? You went to
		
01:11:58 --> 01:12:01
			California recently, and I'm sure
guarantee anyone who's go to San
		
01:12:01 --> 01:12:04
			Francisco, and you guys work
there, you invest at work there.
		
01:12:05 --> 01:12:08
			People are deprecating everywhere
now, and it's almost like
		
01:12:10 --> 01:12:14
			they don't want to make laws on
this. Right? They don't want to do
		
01:12:14 --> 01:12:15
			anything.
		
01:12:17 --> 01:12:18
			It's insane.
		
01:12:19 --> 01:12:25
			Dora Sela who runs it the Mufti
Azima. Dean, his dad, his
		
01:12:25 --> 01:12:29
			brothers, they run it. They're the
founders of it. That's down the
		
01:12:29 --> 01:12:29
			road.
		
01:12:31 --> 01:12:34
			Down the road of Donald Carson
from Donald class and it'll cost
		
01:12:34 --> 01:12:38
			him as we said is it's an
accredited, it's heading to an
		
01:12:38 --> 01:12:43
			accreditation. Okay. Whereas daata
Salam is like the
		
01:12:45 --> 01:12:48
			it's an institute, they're not
getting accredited. Not that I
		
01:12:48 --> 01:12:54
			know of, but dato Qasim as that
it's like, focused on scholarship.
		
01:12:54 --> 01:12:59
			Darussalam is like in mass. And
it's focused on producing fall and
		
01:12:59 --> 01:13:03
			folk Aha. Right. There's a lot of
hits. And but they're also social.
		
01:13:03 --> 01:13:07
			Like it's open to public mosques.
The front of dada dada
		
01:13:08 --> 01:13:12
			is a public Masjid. Right? Anyone
walk in and pray. And they use it
		
01:13:12 --> 01:13:16
			as college space as school space.
And they have a high school
		
01:13:16 --> 01:13:20
			program. Like you can take high
school there. You take High School
		
01:13:20 --> 01:13:25
			on the computer, right? On the
side, right. And I saw them like,
		
01:13:25 --> 01:13:29
			studying on the side maybe have a
math tutor, and they're part of an
		
01:13:29 --> 01:13:32
			online high school. So they take
their secular classes and then
		
01:13:32 --> 01:13:38
			they take their hips. That's far
more. I mean, people differ about
		
01:13:38 --> 01:13:41
			this, but what is the most
important thing? Yeah, I'd be the
		
01:13:41 --> 01:13:44
			book of Allah. If you're an
Islamic civilization, that's the
		
01:13:44 --> 01:13:48
			gotta be then all the scholarship
this the studies after the secular
		
01:13:48 --> 01:13:49
			studies are around that.
		
01:13:50 --> 01:13:50
			Right?
		
01:13:51 --> 01:13:55
			Does not make sense. In any
Islamic civilization. The first
		
01:13:55 --> 01:13:58
			the most important book is the
book of Allah. Right? So that's
		
01:13:58 --> 01:14:01
			that takes a central role. And
then the this the secular subjects
		
01:14:01 --> 01:14:02
			around that.
		
01:14:04 --> 01:14:07
			Okay, now let's go to comments,
questions. What do we got here
		
01:14:14 --> 01:14:14
			nothing
		
01:14:15 --> 01:14:21
			substitutes, no questions of
what's up? There is an older
		
01:14:21 --> 01:14:23
			question. Well, that's read it so
it's Is there really any
		
01:14:23 --> 01:14:27
			difference between Ivanovna V's
we'll have to dilute and check
		
01:14:27 --> 01:14:30
			Cindy's? Why did the shoot it
seems like semantics How do you
		
01:14:30 --> 01:14:33
			like how you find resistance and
that both are acceptable but new
		
01:14:33 --> 01:14:37
			perspectives and I don't know what
to just shoot is known.
		
01:14:38 --> 01:14:43
			Why did this shoot is simply
saying that everything we see we
		
01:14:43 --> 01:14:47
			see it as a direct creation of
Allah.
		
01:14:49 --> 01:14:52
			And you see what attribute of
Allah is manifesting from that.
		
01:14:53 --> 01:14:53
			Okay?
		
01:14:54 --> 01:14:57
			You don't see anything as
		
01:14:58 --> 01:14:59
			as as that
		
01:15:00 --> 01:15:03
			More Stickler of that Mr. Cola as
an independent essence is not an
		
01:15:03 --> 01:15:08
			independent essence. So every
person in our life, Allah has
		
01:15:08 --> 01:15:13
			doing something for us through
that person, not to us, for us.
		
01:15:14 --> 01:15:18
			And to us if we committed sins,
and even that is for us, it's
		
01:15:18 --> 01:15:22
			appropriate for your benefit every
single thing, every single person
		
01:15:22 --> 01:15:25
			in your life, every single event,
every single that's why did this
		
01:15:25 --> 01:15:28
			shoot is like that. So when, when
you see a lie, and you're seeing
		
01:15:28 --> 01:15:31
			that Allah is manifesting
something, so that you can have a
		
01:15:31 --> 01:15:37
			concept of what Gela is like, of
what fear is, like, of what power
		
01:15:37 --> 01:15:38
			is like, when you see
		
01:15:41 --> 01:15:45
			things in the creation, you always
view them from that lens. That's
		
01:15:45 --> 01:15:49
			the bid summary of what to shoot.
And that's don't know what differs
		
01:15:49 --> 01:15:49
			on that.
		
01:15:51 --> 01:15:56
			Why certain will, Jude, there is
something that we have to dismiss,
		
01:15:57 --> 01:16:00
			we have to dismiss any concept
that is
		
01:16:01 --> 01:16:04
			holy, or that everything is just
		
01:16:06 --> 01:16:08
			that we're all merely
		
01:16:09 --> 01:16:15
			any hold anything that merges
between God and the creation that
		
01:16:15 --> 01:16:18
			is pantheistic in that sense, that
we just missed that. And of
		
01:16:18 --> 01:16:20
			course, if not to be didn't mean
that it's impossible for him to
		
01:16:20 --> 01:16:21
			have meant that as Muslim
		
01:16:26 --> 01:16:26
			to
		
01:16:28 --> 01:16:32
			Abu Bakr Ibn Al Arabi, he is a
kadhi.
		
01:16:33 --> 01:16:35
			And it's good that you mentioned
that because
		
01:16:36 --> 01:16:39
			there's some comments on whether
or not
		
01:16:43 --> 01:16:48
			whether or not to call the Abu
Bakr Ibn Al Arabi took that back
		
01:16:48 --> 01:16:53
			or not to back his statement or
not. So let's go to the other is
		
01:16:53 --> 01:16:54
			Ibn Arabi
		
01:16:56 --> 01:17:03
			who is purely a Sufi. And he left
he studied in Andalus. Then he
		
01:17:03 --> 01:17:07
			went down across and died in
Damascus, Syria. Let's now go to
		
01:17:07 --> 01:17:10
			what Maureen sent me he said by
the way, I want you to read this
		
01:17:11 --> 01:17:17
			to see if called the Abu Bakr Ibn
Al Arabi took back
		
01:17:18 --> 01:17:21
			let's see where is it? Where is
it? Where is it? Where is it been
		
01:17:21 --> 01:17:25
			allowed to be called the Abu Bakar
if not oughta be Al Faqih. Okay,
		
01:17:26 --> 01:17:27
			let's see where that is.
		
01:17:30 --> 01:17:31
			He says that
		
01:17:32 --> 01:17:33
			it took it back.
		
01:17:36 --> 01:17:37
			Let's see what is it No.
		
01:17:43 --> 01:17:44
			Where did he send that to me?
		
01:17:46 --> 01:17:49
			Oh, here it is through a desert
desert desert desert called the
		
01:17:49 --> 01:17:53
			Abu Bakr did he walked back his
statement in later books died with
		
01:17:53 --> 01:17:54
			Makati on his chest right
		
01:17:58 --> 01:18:00
			now may tell but in his on his
deathbed and die with Bacardi on
		
01:18:00 --> 01:18:04
			his chest. That's everyone, right?
Anyone controversial? And if he or
		
01:18:04 --> 01:18:06
			she made a mistake in the past
		
01:18:08 --> 01:18:10
			died may tell him on his deathbed
and died.
		
01:18:14 --> 01:18:17
			Where did Where does it say the
party will buckle him a lot of you
		
01:18:19 --> 01:18:24
			took back his works. The aim of
this paper is to examine certain
		
01:18:24 --> 01:18:29
			works of God the Abu Bakar Ibn Al
RBL fapy. Okay, and to ascertain
		
01:18:29 --> 01:18:31
			the chronology chronology of some
of his works,
		
01:18:32 --> 01:18:39
			okay. Is all walsim in Alcoa, us
and it should be alright. Is it
		
01:18:39 --> 01:18:43
			his final work? Okay. And has his
final opinion.
		
01:18:44 --> 01:18:44
			All right.
		
01:18:46 --> 01:18:50
			This needs inquiry, right? So he's
inquiring. So let's see, qualities
		
01:18:50 --> 01:18:54
			opinion on Satan, Al Imam and
Hussein that he was a rebel
		
01:18:54 --> 01:18:56
			against Islam and killed by the
sort of his grandfather.
		
01:18:58 --> 01:19:02
			we contend the quote which to date
is still on the website of the
		
01:19:02 --> 01:19:02
			sheikh.
		
01:19:04 --> 01:19:04
			Okay.
		
01:19:05 --> 01:19:06
			And
		
01:19:08 --> 01:19:11
			I don't know what CIC has a
website, the basis for this
		
01:19:11 --> 01:19:16
			opinion for these opinions. And
the statement for the quality is
		
01:19:16 --> 01:19:20
			from our awesome, welcome,
awesome. Okay. He says, we intend
		
01:19:20 --> 01:19:25
			that we cleanse the earth from the
wine of via XID and the spilled
		
01:19:25 --> 01:19:29
			blood of it Hussein a calamity
came to us, which the joy of time
		
01:19:29 --> 01:19:34
			cannot repair, not one came out to
him except by an interpretation,
		
01:19:34 --> 01:19:38
			and they did not kill him, except
by what they had heard from his
		
01:19:38 --> 01:19:43
			grandfather, the guardian of the
emissaries I doubt that
		
01:19:44 --> 01:19:49
			Ignizio dad and Yazeed they were
looking in the books and saying
		
01:19:49 --> 01:19:52
			what is the outcome of the rebel?
What the Prophet want us to do
		
01:19:52 --> 01:19:56
			here? Are you serious? Do you
think that they went and said What
		
01:19:56 --> 01:19:58
			does the Prophet want to say? Yes,
he wants us to kill his grandson.
		
01:19:59 --> 01:20:00
			Up
		
01:20:00 --> 01:20:00
			certainty.
		
01:20:01 --> 01:20:05
			I mean, that's absurd, right? They
just had an interpretation that
		
01:20:05 --> 01:20:09
			this is what the prophet would
want us to do. Are you serious?
		
01:20:09 --> 01:20:12
			That's absurd. We can understand
this coming from the Shaeffer
		
01:20:12 --> 01:20:15
			there, get this, ya know, we're
talking about Edison, however,
		
01:20:15 --> 01:20:19
			from a Sunni Maliki Sheikh, who
was promoted the school of medic
		
01:20:20 --> 01:20:24
			edited the translation and printed
9595 He says is an untenable
		
01:20:24 --> 01:20:27
			position. Unless they are
genuinely not aware of the
		
01:20:27 --> 01:20:30
			familiar later opinion of the
cloud. The reprint has been done.
		
01:20:31 --> 01:20:36
			The defense against disaster was
was the name given. Okay? To date,
		
01:20:36 --> 01:20:39
			there has only been one critical
complete edition of the lesson by
		
01:20:39 --> 01:20:42
			Dr. Tolley beep. All right.
		
01:20:44 --> 01:20:45
			Talking about just like the
different
		
01:20:46 --> 01:20:50
			I want to call us here. I mean, I
would love to read the whole thing
		
01:20:50 --> 01:20:52
			but I'm not gonna read the whole
thing on a stream he does a good
		
01:20:52 --> 01:20:56
			discussion on the transmission of
the book and the different
		
01:20:56 --> 01:20:57
			editions of the book okay.
		
01:21:00 --> 01:21:03
			And that there is a false version
of the house in which he calls a
		
01:21:03 --> 01:21:04
			pretender
		
01:21:06 --> 01:21:10
			and then we are now swimming in
different editions and different
		
01:21:10 --> 01:21:16
			statements right and and so like,
you remember what the ship what
		
01:21:16 --> 01:21:18
			what ships I mean, just said about
people what they said about
		
01:21:18 --> 01:21:19
			hypnotically.
		
01:21:20 --> 01:21:24
			Many people when they love if not
to be in there in Syria, and you
		
01:21:24 --> 01:21:27
			have to love him not to be if
you're in Damascus, but they they
		
01:21:27 --> 01:21:30
			just can't stomach certain
opinions, or they just disbelieve
		
01:21:30 --> 01:21:33
			a certain opinion, completely
wrong.
		
01:21:34 --> 01:21:37
			They spin around and say no, no,
no, no, it's not even audibly. Who
		
01:21:37 --> 01:21:42
			was wrong? The transmission was
wrong. Right? It's inaccurate.
		
01:21:42 --> 01:21:45
			Right. Okay. But how do you know
it's inaccurate? That is, so
		
01:21:45 --> 01:21:48
			shaming says no, by and large,
it's accurate. Because when you
		
01:21:48 --> 01:21:52
			write so much, you're going to
repeat your opinions, right?
		
01:21:54 --> 01:21:57
			So that's where and that's where
and we say this too, about if
		
01:21:57 --> 01:22:03
			Nebby satalite. Eleni when he
says, I LaRochelle my gdb veti in
		
01:22:03 --> 01:22:09
			the reseller and the automatic,
that's this is wrong, right. And
		
01:22:09 --> 01:22:13
			then some say no, he meant to put
a period here and begin the new
		
01:22:13 --> 01:22:18
			sentence. I let Arsenal Majeed
period and then B that T is a new
		
01:22:18 --> 01:22:22
			sentence. Okay, fair enough.
Another no it was a wrong the
		
01:22:22 --> 01:22:25
			copyist made a mistake. Okay,
nowhere all that disappears. He
		
01:22:25 --> 01:22:27
			repeats in another book.
		
01:22:28 --> 01:22:32
			Right? He repeats it in another
book. So why don't we just do the
		
01:22:32 --> 01:22:35
			right thing and say a great
scholar made a mistake. Why don't
		
01:22:35 --> 01:22:38
			people just say this when they're
the ones they look up to made a
		
01:22:38 --> 01:22:42
			mistake? Right he made a mistake
simple huh?
		
01:22:43 --> 01:22:46
			With their people just said he
repented Yeah, he repented on his
		
01:22:46 --> 01:22:49
			deathbed died because he was
stressed but
		
01:22:50 --> 01:22:54
			but we should the reason we are
losing we don't follow any item
		
01:22:54 --> 01:22:55
			because he's my son.
		
01:22:56 --> 01:22:59
			So making mistake we didn't a B or
something.
		
01:23:00 --> 01:23:06
			We don't make mistakes all the
time. And when and just admit it.
		
01:23:06 --> 01:23:10
			So defense against disaster edited
by Sheikh Abdullah causing and
		
01:23:10 --> 01:23:14
			Morava to match is nothing about
the audition other than he was so
		
01:23:14 --> 01:23:18
			enamored by the notes of the
editor you know, Chicago covered
		
01:23:18 --> 01:23:23
			in Dallas head of the Marathi tune
Okay, for the I'm assuming that's
		
01:23:23 --> 01:23:26
			him I'll just call them Roberts
for they seem to him as an
		
01:23:26 --> 01:23:28
			important text nothing is
mentioned that this is a chapter
		
01:23:29 --> 01:23:31
			which the editor has taken from
the Awasum however he doesn't
		
01:23:31 --> 01:23:36
			mention again more discussion on
the text which is not wrong is
		
01:23:36 --> 01:23:38
			good what he's doing but it's just
we're not going to read that on
		
01:23:38 --> 01:23:40
			the stream got
		
01:23:43 --> 01:23:48
			all sorts of different works where
is the
		
01:23:49 --> 01:23:51
			any content him looking for any
content on
		
01:23:55 --> 01:24:00
			you doesn't seem like there's much
content on where or quote or
		
01:24:00 --> 01:24:03
			something that's authoritative to
say that.
		
01:24:04 --> 01:24:07
			Alright, here we go the
contentious opinion of the Caldy
		
01:24:07 --> 01:24:10
			about Imam Hussain after all, that
this is where we want
		
01:24:11 --> 01:24:14
			we move now and present the
opinion of quasi Abu Bakar even
		
01:24:14 --> 01:24:16
			allowed to be on the person of
Satan at the moment Hussein rather
		
01:24:16 --> 01:24:17
			low Tanauan
		
01:24:20 --> 01:24:23
			we translate his exact words from
the complete edition of thou
		
01:24:23 --> 01:24:25
			awesome, and then from the Adila
		
01:24:27 --> 01:24:29
			or the Ayatollah. And finally,
		
01:24:31 --> 01:24:33
			okay, I already audio that I guess
		
01:24:34 --> 01:24:38
			from the mosaddek He says, we
intend we that we cleanse the
		
01:24:38 --> 01:24:42
			earth from the wine of Yazeed
meaning he's disavowing from his
		
01:24:42 --> 01:24:44
			eid and
		
01:24:45 --> 01:24:49
			the spilled blood of Al Hussein a
calamity came to us, which the joy
		
01:24:49 --> 01:24:55
			of time cannot repair. So that
part seems sympathetic. It calls
		
01:24:55 --> 01:24:59
			it a calamity. The spilled blood,
not one came out
		
01:25:00 --> 01:25:04
			To help to him except by an
interpretation, how does he know
		
01:25:04 --> 01:25:07
			that? How does he know that they
went with a sound intention and an
		
01:25:07 --> 01:25:11
			HD head? And what person would
have an he had that this is what
		
01:25:11 --> 01:25:12
			the prophet slice out of them
		
01:25:13 --> 01:25:16
			wants us to do. And they did not
kill him except by what they had
		
01:25:16 --> 01:25:19
			heard from his grandfather, the
guardian of the emissaries, sort
		
01:25:19 --> 01:25:20
			of Allahu Allah who was
		
01:25:22 --> 01:25:25
			from this people have concluded
that what people have concluded
		
01:25:25 --> 01:25:28
			For we are not responsible for
what people conclude this the
		
01:25:28 --> 01:25:32
			opinion of the kadhi has been used
to malign him from his death to
		
01:25:32 --> 01:25:35
			now no one has even highlighted
that this obnoxious opinion was an
		
01:25:35 --> 01:25:38
			earlier opinion. He changed his
opinion
		
01:25:40 --> 01:25:43
			on quite a few points, which he
had written within the Awasum if
		
01:25:43 --> 01:25:47
			the editors of his works had just
highlighted that his later works
		
01:25:47 --> 01:25:50
			give a different opinion. Maybe in
the future, well, where is that
		
01:25:50 --> 01:25:53
			second opinion? Okay. Maybe in the
future something could be written
		
01:25:53 --> 01:25:54
			bla bla bla.
		
01:25:55 --> 01:25:58
			The sixth is that there are people
		
01:26:02 --> 01:26:07
			as to that you withhold the hand
from one who is not fit to rule
		
01:26:08 --> 01:26:10
			and oppressor and abuser
wrongdoings that know with this
		
01:26:10 --> 01:26:14
			interpretation that two nobles,
Hussein, Illuminati and Abdullah
		
01:26:14 --> 01:26:16
			bin Zubayr arose against his ego.
		
01:26:17 --> 01:26:22
			So in another opinion, he's saying
here that that was valid for them
		
01:26:22 --> 01:26:25
			to rise up against the governor.
		
01:26:27 --> 01:26:32
			People disagreed. Some said you
rise up against the oppressive
		
01:26:32 --> 01:26:37
			governor, right? If he is not fit
to rule, and that is what Jose and
		
01:26:37 --> 01:26:41
			Zubaydah did. This is the same
author commenting on the same
		
01:26:41 --> 01:26:44
			situation. However, he states that
someone who is not fit to rule an
		
01:26:44 --> 01:26:48
			oppressor and abuser and wrongs
that no for this was the
		
01:26:48 --> 01:26:51
			interpretation of Imam Hussain as
to the pledge of allegiance to the
		
01:26:51 --> 01:26:54
			Imam and the obedience to Him when
He is not fit for that, do you
		
01:26:54 --> 01:26:58
			contest or do you rise against
him? Yes or no?
		
01:26:59 --> 01:27:04
			Sorry. Do you content contests and
rise against him? Yes or No? from
		
01:27:04 --> 01:27:08
			them who said yes. That which is
necessitated by agreement with the
		
01:27:08 --> 01:27:11
			pledge. Establishing is no
contesting the matter.
		
01:27:13 --> 01:27:15
			He's saying that there's some
people said no. And then some
		
01:27:15 --> 01:27:19
			people said yes. And this is the
basis of Hussein Center has NSA
		
01:27:19 --> 01:27:26
			now this is Abdullah bin Zubayr.
Okay. So but it's not necessarily
		
01:27:26 --> 01:27:32
			negating his first opinion,
because the first opinion is not
		
01:27:32 --> 01:27:39
			whether or not an Hussein's revolt
was valid. It was that whether or
		
01:27:39 --> 01:27:45
			not Yazeed and Ibn Zia acted upon
an interpretation.
		
01:27:46 --> 01:27:49
			In other words, he's saying it
because both could be the case.
		
01:27:50 --> 01:27:51
			This does not negate the first
opinion.
		
01:27:52 --> 01:27:53
			Right?
		
01:27:54 --> 01:27:59
			So yes, so Hussein had a valid and
we go and rebel. And yes,
		
01:28:00 --> 01:28:02
			according the first opinion, yes,
he was he had an Ibn Ziad also had
		
01:28:02 --> 01:28:07
			a valid interpretation to go and
quell the rebellion. He's still
		
01:28:07 --> 01:28:11
			having a great hosting oven. And
giving a lot of credit to Jose t
		
01:28:11 --> 01:28:14
			as even even Ziad that they truly
wanted what the Prophet wanted.
		
01:28:14 --> 01:28:19
			Right? That doesn't negate the
first opinion so far.
		
01:28:28 --> 01:28:32
			So I don't see. To conclude we
have shown by an external intern
		
01:28:32 --> 01:28:34
			examiners have called these works
and awesome is one that his
		
01:28:34 --> 01:28:38
			earliest his earliest work and the
Audio, Audio The and the mosaddek
		
01:28:38 --> 01:28:41
			are two of his later works, the
opinion of Claudia has written and
		
01:28:41 --> 01:28:45
			these two works are the ones that
he died on. It doesn't negate it.
		
01:28:45 --> 01:28:48
			I don't understand what he's
saying here because it does not
		
01:28:48 --> 01:28:52
			negate it. Am I right or wrong?
Right. So it is possible that two
		
01:28:52 --> 01:28:57
			groups fighting both of them are
doing a valid test with and
		
01:28:57 --> 01:29:00
			neither of them are guilty, right?
That's what he's upon right now.
		
01:29:00 --> 01:29:01
			That's what Claudia Buckler is
upon right now
		
01:29:02 --> 01:29:05
			is the first opinion never said
Hussein was wrong is it is a
		
01:29:05 --> 01:29:11
			defensive he has eaten Evans yet.
So after all this reading and
		
01:29:11 --> 01:29:14
			that's the summary. Why couldn't
he put I'm not gonna I'm not gonna
		
01:29:14 --> 01:29:18
			be you know, pessimistic or
anything but when you have
		
01:29:18 --> 01:29:22
			articles like this, by the way,
this seems to be a respectable
		
01:29:22 --> 01:29:27
			scholar, so I'm not dissing the
scholar who wrote this. Okay, but
		
01:29:29 --> 01:29:32
			I don't see where how long does it
take back? How was it a walk back?
		
01:29:32 --> 01:29:35
			You didn't walk back your position
you still held cardio Walker still
		
01:29:35 --> 01:29:40
			held that your zedan had been Ziad
are upon
		
01:29:41 --> 01:29:42
			a valid opinion.
		
01:29:43 --> 01:29:49
			Right, or an HD head like they had
a good intent in this. Explain to
		
01:29:49 --> 01:29:52
			me in What world do you have a
good intent to kill the prophets
		
01:29:52 --> 01:29:52
			grandson?
		
01:29:54 --> 01:29:54
			No
		
01:30:01 --> 01:30:02
			Next.
		
01:30:03 --> 01:30:03
			Yes.
		
01:30:05 --> 01:30:09
			Piggybacking off of advice, I was
gonna ask you, what advice would
		
01:30:09 --> 01:30:09
			you have
		
01:30:11 --> 01:30:13
			for students from college?
		
01:30:15 --> 01:30:17
			Student of knowledge, I think you
have to play the long game.
		
01:30:18 --> 01:30:21
			That's my, my, a lot of people get
caught up in the in the in the
		
01:30:21 --> 01:30:22
			immediate
		
01:30:23 --> 01:30:27
			years. And that's a mistake.
Right? You got to realize that the
		
01:30:27 --> 01:30:31
			Taliban is it's a long term thing,
and you have to have a lot of
		
01:30:31 --> 01:30:35
			suburbs. And the time that passes
will be the test of our suburb and
		
01:30:35 --> 01:30:41
			our F loss and seeking knowledge.
Right. Because if you, if you hold
		
01:30:41 --> 01:30:46
			out, and you keep going, and you
don't stop, you will attain, you
		
01:30:46 --> 01:30:50
			will attain the knowledge. You may
not and remind remember, I'd said
		
01:30:50 --> 01:30:54
			yesterday, I'm very suspicious
about not suspicious, but I have
		
01:30:54 --> 01:31:00
			certain observations when you go
to a school that's prestigious, it
		
01:31:00 --> 01:31:03
			has an ability to ruin you.
Because everywhere you go, he
		
01:31:03 --> 01:31:07
			said, where do you go, Oh, I went
to so and so all of a sudden, you
		
01:31:07 --> 01:31:11
			feel like you've arrived? Wherever
you had it, right? Whereas people
		
01:31:11 --> 01:31:14
			who go to some dusty school or
some unknown school, or people who
		
01:31:14 --> 01:31:17
			don't go to any school, and they
studied here, and they study
		
01:31:17 --> 01:31:20
			there, people always look down on
you, or they don't view you as
		
01:31:20 --> 01:31:23
			anything that is good for you. I'm
telling you, that's good for you
		
01:31:23 --> 01:31:26
			how many? This is a silly example.
But it's true. It's the same
		
01:31:26 --> 01:31:30
			concept of human psychology, how
many first round picks are a bust?
		
01:31:31 --> 01:31:35
			And how many greats in any sport,
we're like the 100th Pick. Because
		
01:31:35 --> 01:31:39
			he walks on the field. No cameras
are running to him. No money is
		
01:31:39 --> 01:31:43
			coming into his bank account. What
does that do? That makes him focus
		
01:31:43 --> 01:31:49
			on the game, and prepare and get
better? Right? So likewise, when
		
01:31:49 --> 01:31:52
			people say when they like, let's
say, graduate from a local
		
01:31:52 --> 01:31:56
			operation, like us here, and then
they go to a great school, okay?
		
01:31:58 --> 01:32:02
			They have a test. Yes, you may
learn a lot. But you come back and
		
01:32:02 --> 01:32:03
			you drop that name.
		
01:32:04 --> 01:32:08
			Right? Your world is changing. And
that's not good. And people view
		
01:32:08 --> 01:32:11
			you differently. That's not good.
So you got to be very careful from
		
01:32:11 --> 01:32:16
			that. And there was a study done
secular study that said that they
		
01:32:16 --> 01:32:20
			tracked some of the greats. And
they wanted to see what's the
		
01:32:20 --> 01:32:26
			correlation, the great success
stories in a certain in various
		
01:32:26 --> 01:32:32
			industries. So pharmaceutical,
business, medical, all different
		
01:32:32 --> 01:32:36
			industries. And they said, Let's
track the best of them. And let's
		
01:32:36 --> 01:32:38
			see what they had in common
regarding their schooling. They
		
01:32:38 --> 01:32:42
			said, No, there was nothing there
was there was in fact, a surprise.
		
01:32:43 --> 01:32:46
			The vast bulk of them came from
regular mediocre, no name
		
01:32:46 --> 01:32:47
			institutions.
		
01:32:48 --> 01:32:51
			So then they did a second study,
because they got curious, they
		
01:32:51 --> 01:32:54
			said, Let's see their counterparts
that people graduated the same
		
01:32:54 --> 01:32:57
			year from the same towns etc. Who
went to the ivy League's, and
		
01:32:57 --> 01:33:00
			let's see where they are. And they
turned out to be like, not as
		
01:33:00 --> 01:33:04
			successful, right? So is it? How
is it like the counterpart in the
		
01:33:04 --> 01:33:07
			industry, someone who graduated
the same year you did, and went
		
01:33:07 --> 01:33:11
			down the medical route, you ended
up here, and this person who
		
01:33:11 --> 01:33:12
			should have been just like you,
but he went to an Ivy League
		
01:33:12 --> 01:33:16
			school, he ended up down here, and
they found overall, of course,
		
01:33:16 --> 01:33:20
			there's not 100%. But overall,
these people who had
		
01:33:21 --> 01:33:25
			weaker looking weak or looking or
mediocre
		
01:33:26 --> 01:33:32
			educational institutes, or not big
names, they did better
		
01:33:32 --> 01:33:36
			consistently. And they said, This
is bizarre. This makes no sense.
		
01:33:36 --> 01:33:39
			Which shouldn't make any sense,
right? But then they went to the
		
01:33:39 --> 01:33:43
			deeper psychology behind it, all
those who went to those posh
		
01:33:44 --> 01:33:48
			schools of the Harvard's and
Yale's of the world. And the
		
01:33:48 --> 01:33:52
			Oxford's in the Cambridge is, they
got posh, they got soft, their
		
01:33:52 --> 01:33:56
			hunger died, they were satisfied.
Like this is alright, this is my
		
01:33:56 --> 01:34:00
			thing in life, whereas those who
went to like Hartford, or
		
01:34:02 --> 01:34:07
			Clevelander school, no names,
right. And some of them self
		
01:34:07 --> 01:34:07
			taught.
		
01:34:08 --> 01:34:11
			In some fields, you could be self
taught, like in business, you
		
01:34:11 --> 01:34:13
			don't need to go to school. self
taught
		
01:34:14 --> 01:34:18
			these guys at the same age and
life no one was looking up to
		
01:34:18 --> 01:34:18
			them.
		
01:34:19 --> 01:34:22
			Everyone dismissed their educate,
dismiss them like you're not
		
01:34:22 --> 01:34:27
			someone to look at that fit fuel
their fire, and they went off to
		
01:34:27 --> 01:34:33
			succeed, right? So don't be my
message is to look at the long
		
01:34:33 --> 01:34:40
			run. And don't look at the
immediate names. Even as indeed I
		
01:34:40 --> 01:34:44
			know someone Subhanallah that I
thought I would study under.
		
01:34:45 --> 01:34:49
			Right 10 years studied with one of
the biggest shoe daily
		
01:34:50 --> 01:34:55
			and when he came back, like a
complete stuff realizing like a
		
01:34:55 --> 01:34:59
			flop, no impact, no impact.
		
01:35:00 --> 01:35:01
			It just seems self satisfied.
		
01:35:02 --> 01:35:06
			Like he arrived, he got his gift
of from Allah already as if that
		
01:35:07 --> 01:35:10
			right? Like I got the gift I did
the 10 years with the sheikh, et
		
01:35:10 --> 01:35:14
			cetera, et cetera, no hunger now
to like, prove yourself to do
		
01:35:14 --> 01:35:14
			something.
		
01:35:16 --> 01:35:22
			But life actually begins, you
start to your output begins, right
		
01:35:22 --> 01:35:26
			after you supposed to begin after
you study. So that's something
		
01:35:26 --> 01:35:29
			that's a mirage, I guarantee it is
a mirage, what you should look for
		
01:35:29 --> 01:35:34
			is the hungry person. And the time
that that passes will test your
		
01:35:34 --> 01:35:37
			necklace, the more people look at
your eyes and nothing, right?
		
01:35:38 --> 01:35:39
			That's a test of Occulus.
		
01:35:40 --> 01:35:44
			Okay, and the more time passes and
you see that your peers have
		
01:35:44 --> 01:35:45
			passed you by?
		
01:35:46 --> 01:35:49
			Are you going to keep going? Are
you going to be so worked up on
		
01:35:49 --> 01:35:51
			the inside that you don't want to
check out? I don't even want to be
		
01:35:51 --> 01:35:55
			here anymore. Right? It's a test
of a class. So don't imagine that
		
01:35:55 --> 01:35:58
			taller will end was like
university where you do four years
		
01:35:58 --> 01:35:58
			and I'm done.
		
01:35:59 --> 01:36:02
			And I really need this prestige in
these four years. That's all a
		
01:36:02 --> 01:36:04
			trick a shakedown and a trick of
the ego
		
01:36:05 --> 01:36:06
			at the same time.
		
01:36:24 --> 01:36:28
			Awesome, Al Hakim, by the way, did
track down his nationality? He's a
		
01:36:28 --> 01:36:28
			Saudi.
		
01:36:29 --> 01:36:31
			I didn't expect that at all.
Right. He's a Saudi nurse.
		
01:36:34 --> 01:36:36
			And I'm not gonna be totally
disrespectful to the guy but he is
		
01:36:36 --> 01:36:39
			pretty consistent. Like, sometimes
you have
		
01:36:41 --> 01:36:42
			Imams that are.
		
01:36:44 --> 01:36:47
			They got drama, he seems to be
like, pretty steady, right? He's,
		
01:36:47 --> 01:36:50
			you know what he's gonna say? You
could disagree or not.
		
01:36:52 --> 01:36:52
			Anyway.
		
01:36:55 --> 01:36:57
			For some reason, every time he
opens his mouth, I laugh, right?
		
01:36:57 --> 01:37:00
			I'm not laughing at him. He just
everything about him was funny,
		
01:37:00 --> 01:37:04
			right? Something about him. He's
something about him is just
		
01:37:04 --> 01:37:08
			comedic by his nature. And it
none. And I'm not laughing at him.
		
01:37:08 --> 01:37:11
			I just think he's way he talks is
hilarious.
		
01:37:13 --> 01:37:16
			What is it about it? That's really
funny. Yeah, he's just naturally
		
01:37:16 --> 01:37:19
			like that. Like he'll say a normal
statement will be funny. Yeah. I
		
01:37:19 --> 01:37:23
			mean, I like to separate between
the person and his men hedge and
		
01:37:23 --> 01:37:27
			his what he says, because we know
that we're totally different
		
01:37:27 --> 01:37:30
			worlds. He doesn't believe that
we'll have these exist. Like we're
		
01:37:30 --> 01:37:33
			in a different world, right? We're
in a different way. By the way,
		
01:37:33 --> 01:37:37
			their group was they were called
What were they called elec when
		
01:37:37 --> 01:37:41
			not if one Muslim mean of the Arab
world. But their original group
		
01:37:41 --> 01:37:47
			were called the one right? And
they take they killed Muslims who
		
01:37:47 --> 01:37:50
			disagreed with them and update,
okay, in any of it.
		
01:37:51 --> 01:37:55
			And even so much so that their
king had to disband them all and
		
01:37:55 --> 01:37:59
			fight them. Okay. Well, awesome.
And Hakeem said in a q&a that is
		
01:37:59 --> 01:38:02
			permissible to eat things like Big
Mac and USA as as a Christian
		
01:38:02 --> 01:38:05
			country. Did he live in the USA to
see what kind of Christian country
		
01:38:05 --> 01:38:10
			this is? Where's the Christianity?
Are companies Christian? Right?
		
01:38:10 --> 01:38:14
			Let's say you have a Christian
country our company's Christian is
		
01:38:14 --> 01:38:19
			Tyson's it's Chick fil A it
actually is there Christian Right.
		
01:38:19 --> 01:38:23
			But the question is, do they
slaughter maybe in one humbly
		
01:38:23 --> 01:38:25
			opinion, it doesn't matter if they
slaughter or not. But the mess
		
01:38:25 --> 01:38:30
			Allah is the assumption is the Jew
and the Christian who slaughter so
		
01:38:30 --> 01:38:34
			if I go to Amish Pennsylvania, and
the Christian man is there and he
		
01:38:34 --> 01:38:39
			slaughters that's different. It's
the slaughtering as a Christian.
		
01:38:39 --> 01:38:40
			So that's the
		
01:38:41 --> 01:38:45
			he used an example of the Prophet
eating food from the Jewish tribe
		
01:38:45 --> 01:38:48
			as proof that is correct because
the Jews slaughtered
		
01:38:49 --> 01:38:53
			that's kosher. Yeah. So
Christians, do they slaughter by
		
01:38:53 --> 01:39:01
			and large? No. And the only small
sects. Okay, small sects, such as
		
01:39:01 --> 01:39:07
			the Amish will do that. Okay. And
then we can eat that food. John,
		
01:39:08 --> 01:39:13
			how's it going? Hi, Kim. So it was
alright to drink 4% alcoholic beer
		
01:39:16 --> 01:39:23
			which just you put any alcohol
into anything, and it has been
		
01:39:23 --> 01:39:27
			rendered and it just unless he's
talking about the old school
		
01:39:29 --> 01:39:35
			nubby guy and no doubt that that
is what it is because no BS does
		
01:39:35 --> 01:39:41
			not alter your mental state. And
it is not fully fermented. No b
		
01:39:41 --> 01:39:46
			there is a gradient between juice
and fermented juice. That middle
		
01:39:46 --> 01:39:51
			area is called an a bead. It is
not fully fermented. So we cannot
		
01:39:51 --> 01:39:54
			even say it's an alcoholic drink.
It alters your mood, but not your
		
01:39:54 --> 01:39:56
			mind. So
		
01:39:58 --> 01:40:00
			these are common fatawa that come
		
01:40:00 --> 01:40:04
			From Salafi backgrounds. I don't
know about the alcoholic one, but
		
01:40:04 --> 01:40:10
			definitely all the food of it
Kitab regardless, right is
		
01:40:10 --> 01:40:12
			permitted regardless of how they
slaughter, but that's not the
		
01:40:12 --> 01:40:15
			fence with that we're gonna go by
or teach
		
01:40:16 --> 01:40:20
			is a? It's actually interesting.
Let's hear it. So one of the
		
01:40:21 --> 01:40:23
			viewers was commenting before how
like Imran Khan, you know, he's in
		
01:40:23 --> 01:40:26
			jail. And obviously we don't want
to go into that could have been
		
01:40:26 --> 01:40:29
			like, like 10 times that we've
covered it. Yep. But they're
		
01:40:29 --> 01:40:33
			saying that he asked for books in
jail. And so I asked the viewer,
		
01:40:33 --> 01:40:35
			I'm like, can you give us a list?
Yeah, so the center right now and
		
01:40:35 --> 01:40:38
			they said he asked for these books
in jail. He asked for the shifa
		
01:40:39 --> 01:40:43
			Kadima. We had a Saudi hate book
called The message of the Quran,
		
01:40:43 --> 01:40:43
			Islam
		
01:40:44 --> 01:40:47
			vision of Islam like Muhammad,
Salim.
		
01:40:48 --> 01:40:51
			And a bunch of Sierra books, life
in times of prophesized.
		
01:40:53 --> 01:40:57
			Either like asking, like, are we
gonna give it to him? No, he's
		
01:40:57 --> 01:40:59
			asking, so he's in jail. Right?
And all these books are great.
		
01:40:59 --> 01:41:03
			Yeah, that's what he's requested.
Yeah, so like, I'm surprised that
		
01:41:03 --> 01:41:07
			he's requested that doesn't have
1000 assistants and he's a
		
01:41:07 --> 01:41:10
			millionaire. Tell his PA to go get
him those books, right? Where he's
		
01:41:10 --> 01:41:13
			putting that out in public. Like
he's gonna get them okay good
		
01:41:13 --> 01:41:17
			books that he's getting. That's
excellent. His wife is a chef by
		
01:41:17 --> 01:41:21
			the way, like a scholar I think
essentially that's what I heard
		
01:41:22 --> 01:41:24
			that he married you know, like a
mystic
		
01:41:27 --> 01:41:31
			so, so that's good. Very good. You
know what else you're going to do
		
01:41:31 --> 01:41:33
			and Joe, except for read?
		
01:41:34 --> 01:41:38
			And do the Quran? How about give
him books on death and afterlife?
		
01:41:41 --> 01:41:44
			How alive is the sofa in Egypt
it's there. There you have it you
		
01:41:44 --> 01:41:45
			can go to gatherings
		
01:41:49 --> 01:41:52
			is it totally prohibited to recite
Fatiha after the imam in loud
		
01:41:52 --> 01:41:53
			raucous.
		
01:41:56 --> 01:41:59
			The Shafia require you to recite
the Fatiha after the Imam.
		
01:42:01 --> 01:42:03
			And that's why sometimes the Imam
will pause.
		
01:42:04 --> 01:42:09
			Otherwise, we don't we listen to
the meme only. And we don't recite
		
01:42:09 --> 01:42:09
			what the meme
		
01:42:11 --> 01:42:13
			was the best way of explaining
Santa Fe to someone who doesn't
		
01:42:13 --> 01:42:17
			know about that shakes they
listened to or with this group.
		
01:42:21 --> 01:42:22
			Selfie is a fifth myth hub.
		
01:42:24 --> 01:42:24
			But
		
01:42:25 --> 01:42:27
			we will not accept it's also
		
01:42:29 --> 01:42:32
			right. We won't accept a fifth
method. We don't need a fifth
		
01:42:32 --> 01:42:34
			method. But it is a method right.
		
01:42:35 --> 01:42:40
			But one of the problems with it it
does not have one founding Imam
		
01:42:40 --> 01:42:45
			and hence many of it's well suited
and fluid become fluid. That's the
		
01:42:45 --> 01:42:48
			problem. It's very fluid. You
think that it's Quran and Sunnah
		
01:42:48 --> 01:42:51
			is one thing, but when you look at
they're actually actual opinions.
		
01:42:52 --> 01:42:56
			They're very all over the place in
Aki to all over the place.
		
01:42:57 --> 01:43:00
			There was a brother who made a
compilation of
		
01:43:01 --> 01:43:04
			different fatawa in Akita,
		
01:43:05 --> 01:43:09
			let alone FIP. So what is better
for a person is to take a method
		
01:43:09 --> 01:43:13
			that has a founder that has a
crystal soul, these are those who,
		
01:43:13 --> 01:43:16
			of course, later scholars within
the method have added and
		
01:43:16 --> 01:43:18
			subtracted but at least we have
		
01:43:19 --> 01:43:23
			tracks. And we know who the Imams
of the metal bar and what are the
		
01:43:23 --> 01:43:28
			ultimate books, Sofia and that's
one thing I guess I sort of regret
		
01:43:28 --> 01:43:28
			about
		
01:43:29 --> 01:43:32
			in the debate, I said I listed
what hobbies
		
01:43:33 --> 01:43:37
			right? Remember that debate we
did? And I said all these groups
		
01:43:37 --> 01:43:40
			and elicit all the groups I put
Wahhabis at the bottom what I
		
01:43:40 --> 01:43:44
			should have put his selfies
because then since that is it's a
		
01:43:44 --> 01:43:48
			whole nother method. And I don't
think set a fee is in line with
		
01:43:48 --> 01:43:56
			most of the mega hip. The format
hubs of all their fifth will be
		
01:43:56 --> 01:44:02
			humbly aligned with humbly and
Chef a fifth probably most but in
		
01:44:02 --> 01:44:02
			nakida
		
01:44:05 --> 01:44:09
			Hannah Bella mostly along the
hardenability line and they will
		
01:44:09 --> 01:44:13
			apart from them, they will apart
from them is Chef Yusuf ibn been
		
01:44:13 --> 01:44:18
			served up and shook a doctor
should had some advantage he says
		
01:44:18 --> 01:44:21
			the Salafi are not Hannah Bella
and Aveda they are selling they
		
01:44:21 --> 01:44:26
			are their own Akita they are not
Hannibal at all. He said do not do
		
01:44:26 --> 01:44:30
			not bundle them twice so what I'm
saying is they re resemble the 100
		
01:44:30 --> 01:44:33
			but are the most they make cite
them the most they'd be mixed with
		
01:44:33 --> 01:44:35
			them the most associated with them
the most But
		
01:44:36 --> 01:44:41
			Dr. Hudson had we're gonna go by
him right and Sheikh Yusuf bin
		
01:44:41 --> 01:44:41
			sada
		
01:44:42 --> 01:44:46
			and they both say the habita is
one track the selfies another
		
01:44:46 --> 01:44:53
			truck. So we're just gonna cite
the authorities is giving homeless
		
01:44:53 --> 01:44:56
			food to the homeless considers a
cat No, it's not number one Zika
		
01:44:56 --> 01:44:59
			has to go to specific categories
has to go to a Muslim
		
01:45:00 --> 01:45:04
			That's number one a poor Muslim
sadaqa can go to anybody, but Zika
		
01:45:04 --> 01:45:06
			must go to a Muslim
		
01:45:07 --> 01:45:12
			who was impoverished and three it
has to go in kind. So that means I
		
01:45:12 --> 01:45:16
			have Zika on money, I have to give
it in Money cannot give any gift
		
01:45:16 --> 01:45:16
			cards
		
01:45:18 --> 01:45:23
			ShopRite gift card No, I cannot
give it in food. I have $1,000 of
		
01:45:23 --> 01:45:27
			his account, let me buy $1,000 of
grain and give it out. No, you
		
01:45:27 --> 01:45:33
			have to give it in cut. You have
Zika on crops you have to give it
		
01:45:33 --> 01:45:36
			in crops. Unless the wellI The
governor says no, I want it in
		
01:45:36 --> 01:45:41
			money. Because that's what the
people need. Right. So the the the
		
01:45:41 --> 01:45:46
			the, that's the condition of Zika
has to be given in kind, gold,
		
01:45:46 --> 01:45:49
			silver and currency are all one.
So if you have gold, you can give
		
01:45:49 --> 01:45:53
			dollars, you don't have to give it
in gold. That means you don't have
		
01:45:53 --> 01:45:56
			to chip away at your pieces of
gold to give this occur. You can
		
01:45:56 --> 01:46:00
			give it in the value and currency
is sealed nectar good Sierra book,
		
01:46:00 --> 01:46:04
			it's a Sierra text that that does
something that no other theatre
		
01:46:04 --> 01:46:08
			book did, which is limited to
sahih Hadith. And Sierra does not
		
01:46:08 --> 01:46:14
			require that in our azul. Arpita
and FIP require so he had hasn't
		
01:46:14 --> 01:46:15
			had eats only.
		
01:46:17 --> 01:46:21
			But Sierra allows for the life.
And it allows for even that which
		
01:46:22 --> 01:46:27
			is very weak sayings a thought.
And that's the difference between
		
01:46:27 --> 01:46:30
			sealed the sealed nectar Syrah.
And that's the difference we see
		
01:46:30 --> 01:46:36
			euro and a hadith of rulings and
again, go alright North Korea. So
		
01:46:36 --> 01:46:42
			We answered that question in the
grave. Will we be shown a photo of
		
01:46:42 --> 01:46:46
			the prophet or we physically come
to the grave and we will be asked
		
01:46:46 --> 01:46:51
			Who is this man? Allow Adam but
the questioning will take place.
		
01:46:51 --> 01:46:54
			That's what we know. The
questioning will take place.
		
01:46:54 --> 01:46:58
			Traversing the sacred ask the
question, is this traversing
		
01:46:58 --> 01:47:03
			tradition, the same group or no?
What is your view of Hasson spiker
		
01:47:03 --> 01:47:06
			on modern cubism, I have to be
honest with you, we have been
		
01:47:06 --> 01:47:12
			taught by said about Allah, we do
not read the books of anatomy. So
		
01:47:12 --> 01:47:15
			I I read the biography of anatomy,
just from the devotional side of
		
01:47:15 --> 01:47:21
			anatomy. But once it got into his
thought, I really just sort of
		
01:47:21 --> 01:47:25
			stopped there. Because we don't
read his books. And they say they
		
01:47:25 --> 01:47:28
			give two opinions, either his
what's in it is the correct
		
01:47:28 --> 01:47:32
			transmission, you'll be confused.
Or it's not the correct
		
01:47:32 --> 01:47:35
			transmission, therefore don't read
it. So they go by both right.
		
01:47:38 --> 01:47:40
			And they and they say we don't
read his but we have a good very
		
01:47:40 --> 01:47:43
			good opinion of him. We don't hold
him to be careful and looked at
		
01:47:43 --> 01:47:46
			Diaz and do note, we have a good
opinion of hip anatomy.
		
01:47:47 --> 01:47:51
			But we do not hold that he, why do
we have a good opinion of him out
		
01:47:51 --> 01:47:55
			because all the automat is Sham.
When he died, they had a great
		
01:47:55 --> 01:47:56
			opinion and they preyed upon him.
		
01:47:57 --> 01:48:00
			Or who's going to know better
about anatomy. The people who came
		
01:48:00 --> 01:48:03
			700 years after, however many
years after, are the people who
		
01:48:03 --> 01:48:06
			lived in his time. And we know who
the ultimate of Shem were at that
		
01:48:06 --> 01:48:11
			time, like our Islamic history is
documented. And that's one of the
		
01:48:11 --> 01:48:14
			in one of the lectures about him
and audibly. That's what they
		
01:48:14 --> 01:48:18
			said, Is it all a sham used to
read his books, write him letters
		
01:48:18 --> 01:48:23
			of approval, attend, they attended
his janazah. And what is the
		
01:48:23 --> 01:48:29
			ruling of attending the janazah of
a facet filled Jawara
		
01:48:30 --> 01:48:34
			a sinner of limbs, let alone an
innovator, let alone a complete
		
01:48:34 --> 01:48:38
			Xindian the Imams are not allowed
to attend those funerals. It's a
		
01:48:38 --> 01:48:39
			signal to the people who is the
vessel
		
01:48:41 --> 01:48:44
			Imams should not attend the
funeral. And I'm saying this as a
		
01:48:44 --> 01:48:47
			general rule. Maybe there are
exceptions here and there. Right.
		
01:48:47 --> 01:48:51
			But they don't attend that they
don't
		
01:48:52 --> 01:48:55
			are not allowed as my crew as Cara
here not to honey. gotta hear
		
01:48:55 --> 01:49:00
			discouragement, not prohibition,
to attend the funeral of a public
		
01:49:00 --> 01:49:04
			center, let alone an innovator.
And as Indic doesn't even get a
		
01:49:04 --> 01:49:07
			burial. Like, how about that?
		
01:49:08 --> 01:49:11
			If he's actually is in deep? Why
did they even bury him with the
		
01:49:11 --> 01:49:15
			Muslims? You shouldn't have been
buried with the Muslims at all. Go
		
01:49:15 --> 01:49:18
			find someone else to bury him.
That's how it would be. Or we
		
01:49:18 --> 01:49:21
			would bury him. Like let's say
your mom's a non Muslim. She dies,
		
01:49:21 --> 01:49:25
			what do you do? You don't give her
the rituals of whistle and all
		
01:49:25 --> 01:49:29
			that, but you shroud and bury,
that's it. No prayers, no rituals,
		
01:49:29 --> 01:49:32
			nothing. But you do have to
respect the body. You shroud it
		
01:49:32 --> 01:49:35
			and you bury it in a non Muslim
graveyard. That's what you do if
		
01:49:35 --> 01:49:38
			you have a non Muslim parent. So
why don't they do that with him?
		
01:49:39 --> 01:49:42
			Or just let someone else do that.
But no, they all got involved.
		
01:49:42 --> 01:49:43
			They all prayed the janazah fun.
		
01:49:44 --> 01:49:48
			And there are a lot of quotes from
their contemporaries in praise of
		
01:49:48 --> 01:49:48
			him.
		
01:49:49 --> 01:49:54
			But the works were deemed to be
confusing to people, and hence we
		
01:49:54 --> 01:49:58
			don't read them also said he had
famous for bad handwriting. I
		
01:49:58 --> 01:50:00
			guess this is what maybe schicken
mean would come
		
01:50:00 --> 01:50:03
			capa because it does sound a bit
fishy, right? They say a terrible
		
01:50:03 --> 01:50:06
			handwriting. Right. And so the
copyist is like, I don't know what
		
01:50:06 --> 01:50:10
			he's saying here. Let me just, you
know, come up with something
		
01:50:11 --> 01:50:11
			right?
		
01:50:14 --> 01:50:14
			What?
		
01:50:16 --> 01:50:22
			Oh, yeah, so his his Yeah, he just
accidentally wrote all his 10 ze
		
01:50:22 --> 01:50:25
			content yeah all over Sahih
Muslim. So what are you gonna say
		
01:50:25 --> 01:50:30
			about him? In no way that a an ash
it took over the copies of him,
		
01:50:30 --> 01:50:32
			right? And then and wrote all that
stuff
		
01:50:37 --> 01:50:40
			what is the difference between a
festive and is indeed a fast ship?
		
01:50:40 --> 01:50:44
			Generally we use this term as a
shameless public center. We all
		
01:50:44 --> 01:50:47
			commit sins, right? But we don't
do it publicly in front of
		
01:50:47 --> 01:50:52
			everybody. We shouldn't write
openly. I'm going to open a liquor
		
01:50:52 --> 01:50:55
			store with no shame verses
		
01:50:56 --> 01:50:57
			behind closed doors.
		
01:50:58 --> 01:51:03
			I fall from my ego and my knifes
and I obey my knifes
		
01:51:04 --> 01:51:08
			privately and I feel bad about it.
That type of person still has the
		
01:51:08 --> 01:51:11
			ability to be a solid and utter
web and be beloved by Allah
		
01:51:11 --> 01:51:15
			because he makes so he has the
decency and the Eman to keep his
		
01:51:15 --> 01:51:19
			sins private. The first has passed
that boundary. Sadly and
		
01:51:19 --> 01:51:22
			unfortunately for him, he sends
publicly and openly Okay.
		
01:51:24 --> 01:51:28
			That's a festival. Then you have
an innovator and looked at a big
		
01:51:28 --> 01:51:32
			day. He has he's transgressed.
He's He's passed the level of Sins
		
01:51:32 --> 01:51:37
			of the limbs, and he's into
beliefs. No, he holds beliefs that
		
01:51:37 --> 01:51:40
			are heretical, that are
inconsistent with the Quran. He's
		
01:51:40 --> 01:51:44
			a Moqtada. The Moqtada is a
Muslim, but his deeds are not
		
01:51:44 --> 01:51:48
			accepted until he corrects his
Eman. And we don't pray behind
		
01:51:48 --> 01:51:51
			him. We don't go to his Masjid. We
don't do anything with him. Then
		
01:51:51 --> 01:51:56
			as India, his beliefs are out of
Islam altogether. We don't bury
		
01:51:56 --> 01:52:00
			him. The marriage with him is
invalidated on the spot. The
		
01:52:00 --> 01:52:03
			marriage to an innovator is
sinful. What does it mean? What?
		
01:52:05 --> 01:52:08
			His beliefs are out of Islam. It's
a heretic. He's a he is a
		
01:52:08 --> 01:52:12
			Catholic, but he calls himself a
Muslim. Yeah. Qadiani call
		
01:52:12 --> 01:52:15
			themselves Muslim. Right. And
that's the difference between and
		
01:52:15 --> 01:52:18
			the apostate. The apostate is
telling you I'm not a Muslim
		
01:52:18 --> 01:52:23
			anymore. You posted openly. He's
not having the identity of a
		
01:52:23 --> 01:52:26
			Muslim. There's indeep has
identity of a Muslim. He's saying
		
01:52:26 --> 01:52:30
			I'm a Muslim, but his beliefs are
completely against Islam such as
		
01:52:30 --> 01:52:35
			the Muslim evolutionists. In one
opinion, they're completely right.
		
01:52:35 --> 01:52:38
			And other opinion they're Moqtada.
Right. I liked the opinion of
		
01:52:38 --> 01:52:42
			Sheikh Noir. years and, okay, you
got to make things cut and dry.
		
01:52:42 --> 01:52:46
			You give these people an inch.
Muslim evolutionist is one of the
		
01:52:46 --> 01:52:46
			most
		
01:52:48 --> 01:52:52
			absurd ideas to tell you. Why,
because they have to believe that
		
01:52:52 --> 01:52:55
			Satan to Adam and say, to Hawa had
parents.
		
01:52:57 --> 01:52:59
			And his parents were not human.
		
01:53:00 --> 01:53:05
			So some mammal or other, some AP,
like mammals always either or
		
01:53:05 --> 01:53:07
			where does that lead us? There are
apes in the heavens.
		
01:53:09 --> 01:53:12
			Or that they were created here on
the earth. But then how did you
		
01:53:12 --> 01:53:17
			come down? A bit the woman had
Jamia go down from it.
		
01:53:18 --> 01:53:23
			So go down from heaven to earth?
No, they say no. There was a hill.
		
01:53:26 --> 01:53:29
			They came down, go down from this
hill. Where's this such a special
		
01:53:29 --> 01:53:33
			Hill on the earth that I would not
want to come down from? Right? And
		
01:53:33 --> 01:53:36
			how does that explain that Adam
and how what lived on a mountain?
		
01:53:36 --> 01:53:40
			So they clearly didn't go off a
hill? They stayed on a hill. They
		
01:53:40 --> 01:53:42
			lived on a mountain, right? And
why do they live on a mountain
		
01:53:42 --> 01:53:44
			because mountains have everything
there are two types of mountains
		
01:53:44 --> 01:53:46
			there's this the Rocky Mountain.
		
01:53:47 --> 01:53:52
			And there's the the mountain with
life in it. The mountain that has
		
01:53:52 --> 01:53:57
			trees and caves and rivers and
streams and goats. And make sense
		
01:53:57 --> 01:54:02
			because they didn't yet build
homes. So they had cover. Right?
		
01:54:02 --> 01:54:04
			They had the ability to go into a
cave from the for the shade and
		
01:54:04 --> 01:54:08
			stuff like this right? Until they
learned to build homes and do
		
01:54:08 --> 01:54:13
			other things and settle on the
flatlands right. So how do you
		
01:54:13 --> 01:54:16
			explain all this? So you just keep
going from one thing to the next?
		
01:54:16 --> 01:54:21
			Well, you have a problem
explaining away because they they
		
01:54:21 --> 01:54:24
			are married to causation. They
hold causation to be absolute.
		
01:54:25 --> 01:54:29
			That causation is the real
receptive of things. That's the
		
01:54:29 --> 01:54:31
			real operative problem with the
Muslim evolutionists.
		
01:54:32 --> 01:54:34
			All right, explain to us Prophet
Jesus.
		
01:54:35 --> 01:54:38
			And Allah brought Prophet Jesus
onto the earth around the middle
		
01:54:38 --> 01:54:41
			of the time of human or late in
the time of humanity.
		
01:54:42 --> 01:54:46
			Right. So then, where is exactly
your explanation of Prophet Jesus?
		
01:54:46 --> 01:54:49
			They say no, he did not have the
institution of the Father.
		
01:54:50 --> 01:54:53
			He had a father, but he had the
institution so wait a second, how
		
01:54:53 --> 01:54:57
			was marrying a virgin then? Are
you saying, Well, where is her
		
01:54:57 --> 01:55:00
			marriage? Like, think about this
		
01:55:00 --> 01:55:01
			In Islam marriage is public right?
		
01:55:02 --> 01:55:03
			Where it's her marriage.
		
01:55:05 --> 01:55:10
			And why is he attributed to her
and not to the Father? So what if
		
01:55:10 --> 01:55:14
			his father died? You're still a
son of that father right? Is not
		
01:55:14 --> 01:55:16
			Mohammed Abdullah Ali salatu salam
		
01:55:17 --> 01:55:19
			Did he ever meet his father? No,
but he's called Mohammed bin
		
01:55:19 --> 01:55:23
			Abdullah. Why is a so called a 7
million? Right? That's the only
		
01:55:23 --> 01:55:27
			attribution possible for him.
Right so they just keep digging
		
01:55:27 --> 01:55:31
			hole after hole after hole after
hole. The Muslim evolutionist edge
		
01:55:31 --> 01:55:34
			Helen Moqtada edge * is
Antarctica is the Muslim
		
01:55:34 --> 01:55:40
			evolutionist is the most ignorant
of zips, he will dig himself into
		
01:55:40 --> 01:55:42
			hole and I told you before what
one of them said
		
01:55:43 --> 01:55:48
			he said that there is a
possibility in nature
		
01:55:50 --> 01:55:56
			of mammals are animals giving
birth without a pair.
		
01:55:58 --> 01:56:01
			Right. And I said what are you
talking about? said yeah, just
		
01:56:01 --> 01:56:06
			gives birth like that. Without
anything, said, Okay. Give me one
		
01:56:06 --> 01:56:08
			example. He said there's a species
of frogs.
		
01:56:10 --> 01:56:15
			I was like, wow, you went from one
heresy to another. So you are now
		
01:56:15 --> 01:56:19
			saying that she just happened to
have a kid like a frog. Now,
		
01:56:19 --> 01:56:24
			frogs, that species of frogs all
of them do that? All those frogs
		
01:56:24 --> 01:56:25
			have.
		
01:56:26 --> 01:56:30
			Right? They give birth, asexual
reproduction? All the frogs have
		
01:56:30 --> 01:56:33
			that. So if that was the case in
humans, then why don't we have
		
01:56:33 --> 01:56:36
			that all over the place? Why just
one and it happened to be the
		
01:56:36 --> 01:56:40
			mother of a prophet? Come on.
Look, they're married to
		
01:56:40 --> 01:56:44
			causation. That's what they
believe that things can only exist
		
01:56:44 --> 01:56:49
			by causation. We say yes, when
Allah wills something to exist,
		
01:56:49 --> 01:56:52
			there is a cause that he creates,
and he can create any cause he
		
01:56:52 --> 01:56:56
			wants. And he can create without a
cause if he wants a cause being a
		
01:56:56 --> 01:56:58
			middle thing. Right.
		
01:56:59 --> 01:57:01
			Okay. That's their problem.
		
01:57:03 --> 01:57:06
			And why is it that it has to be
something that you could see, it
		
01:57:06 --> 01:57:08
			could be a cause that you don't
see.
		
01:57:09 --> 01:57:12
			Right? So materialist, I think, is
the wrong explanation of people.
		
01:57:12 --> 01:57:17
			They're not materialists, they're
Reductionists. They reduce
		
01:57:18 --> 01:57:21
			knowledge to what their own eyes
can see. And their tools can
		
01:57:21 --> 01:57:26
			measure. We say, no, there are
everything that is created is
		
01:57:26 --> 01:57:29
			material and its nature. There are
different materials, the soul is a
		
01:57:29 --> 01:57:33
			very subtle vapor like materials.
Some people say, Why? Because
		
01:57:33 --> 01:57:38
			Allah says he blows in it. He blew
it into the soul into the body.
		
01:57:39 --> 01:57:43
			And what do you blow a vapor,
right? So it's vapor? Like, they
		
01:57:43 --> 01:57:47
			say it is a warm, vapor like
substance, very subtle vapor. Why
		
01:57:47 --> 01:57:51
			did they say it's warm, because
when it's removed from the body,
		
01:57:51 --> 01:57:51
			the blood cools down.
		
01:57:53 --> 01:57:56
			What is the source of heat and
human being is the blood, right?
		
01:57:56 --> 01:58:00
			And the blood passes through the
heart. So that they get from all
		
01:58:00 --> 01:58:03
			this, they deduce backwards, that
the nature of the soul, we can
		
01:58:03 --> 01:58:08
			maybe be able to say it's a warm
vapor like substance that settles
		
01:58:09 --> 01:58:13
			in the heart of the human being,
and hence warms up the heart.
		
01:58:13 --> 01:58:16
			Okay. And that's why you could
take off different limbs, and you
		
01:58:16 --> 01:58:21
			could still be alive. But you take
out the heart, and you're dead. So
		
01:58:21 --> 01:58:24
			this is what some speculations
that they say that it's warm vapor
		
01:58:24 --> 01:58:29
			like, like material that settles
around the area of the heart and
		
01:58:29 --> 01:58:34
			warms the body up. And it really,
it is the soul that requires the
		
01:58:34 --> 01:58:38
			air, right? So that is another
proof that it's vapor like because
		
01:58:38 --> 01:58:40
			it needs air, right, it needs to
breathe.
		
01:58:42 --> 01:58:45
			You take the soul out, and the
body cools down and the air stops
		
01:58:45 --> 01:58:48
			coming out of the body. Right. And
that's how you know that the soul
		
01:58:48 --> 01:58:52
			is gone. They used just take a
mirror or glass in front of them
		
01:58:52 --> 01:58:58
			put it in front of a person to see
if the breath would create a
		
01:58:58 --> 01:59:01
			vapor. If there's breath, they
know he's still alive. If there's
		
01:59:01 --> 01:59:03
			vapor they didn't not everyone
knows how to check the pulse.
		
01:59:03 --> 01:59:07
			Right? If there's vapor on the
glass, they know he's still alive.
		
01:59:07 --> 01:59:11
			That is the effect of the salt.
That's what they say. So
		
01:59:14 --> 01:59:18
			we don't deny that every that
there's that everything that Allah
		
01:59:18 --> 01:59:23
			creates has a material substance,
we assume that we accept that. But
		
01:59:23 --> 01:59:26
			what we do deny is that it's
limited to what we can hear and
		
01:59:26 --> 01:59:31
			see. Okay. Khalil says, How do we
explain a heart transplant then?
		
01:59:31 --> 01:59:36
			Good question. Well, the heart is
kept alive, and then merely the
		
01:59:36 --> 01:59:37
			organ has changed.
		
01:59:38 --> 01:59:41
			We're not saying that the heart is
married to that the soul is
		
01:59:41 --> 01:59:45
			married to this specific heart. We
don't say that. Right.
		
01:59:46 --> 01:59:49
			Just to add on to that. I
mentioned this. Yeah. He was
		
01:59:49 --> 01:59:51
			saying how the people that do
heart transplants, they found that
		
01:59:51 --> 01:59:55
			a lot of times what happens is the
person's like heart that it was
		
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			they tend to pick up on that
person's personality they do. So
		
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			it's a bit of a mixture, right and
it's
		
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			Like, it's not even just like,
like now and then it's like 100.
		
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			It's like something that they see
it's consistent common. And then I
		
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			think there was one like case
like, I think it was like a pig
		
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			heart transplant some guy. I don't
know if you saw that what happened
		
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			to him? He died. Right? I think he
I don't know if he died. But from
		
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			what I remember, he started
picking up traits of a pig of an
		
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			animal. Unbelievable. You remember
that? I don't know. Like, it was
		
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			pretty big. We got to look that
up. Look that up real quick.
		
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			That's interesting.
		
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			We've seen a lot of them act like
pigs without the transplant.
		
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			But that's a good question. So we
don't know a lot about of these
		
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			things, but we're deducing
backwards. Based upon what Allah
		
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			says in the Quran about the rule,
the rule, there's a lot of
		
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			discussion on the rule and the
neffs.
		
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			It's very clear in the Quran, that
it's the neffs that is
		
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			responsible, that is,
		
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			takes action that will be asked
		
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			and that the rule is akin to a
secret
		
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			inspiration in the human being of
how he should live because the
		
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			rule in the Quran is always
referring to a new creation and a
		
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			new law and a new set of rules. So
why say 97 muddiman specifics
		
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			called the Rule of Allah
everywhere said nice as mentioned
		
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			the rule as it is described as a
rule is aided by a rule because he
		
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			was created differently and hence
has a different set of rules by
		
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			which he lives
		
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			he can at any time by the
permission of Allah give life to
		
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			the dead
		
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			he was doing it all the time. What
other Prophet did this regularly
		
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			he by the permission of Allah is
able now to cure the blind
		
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			who else can do that? Not just one
time or no regularly cure skin
		
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			diseases and other diseases. He
has a different he also can leave
		
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			this earth
		
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			go to the heavens and come back
right who else has this way of
		
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			living? Why because he's a new
creation remember we said earlier
		
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			him being created six different
ways so why evolution is stuck the
		
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			creation has to be one way Adam
was created one way how what was
		
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			created one way Zachary say no say
no yeah here and is hoc were
		
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			created one way all of us were
created one way say nice was
		
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			created a different way. And all
of us will be recreated in the
		
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			afterlife a different way.
		
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			How will your soul meet your body?
Are you going to be born again?
		
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			No, you're not gonna be born
again. Your soul will come out and
		
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			then the matter that will make up
your body will be like
		
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			magnetically attracted to that
soul and you have a new buddy
		
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			boom. We could have been created
like that. Earlier Satan Adam
		
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			could have created been created
like that if Allah wanted, but he
		
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			wasn't saying Adam was created as
a statue first.
		
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			A statue that you could knock Sol
Sol and kill Fokker
		
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			personality. Alright, let's close
with this personality changes
		
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			following heart transplantations.
		
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			This has been reported for
decades, including accounts of
		
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			recipients acquiring the
personality characteristic of the
		
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			donor
		
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			four categories and move it over a
little bit because the limps in
		
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			the way.
		
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			Personality and personality
changes are discussed in this
		
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			article changes in Preferences,
alterations in emotions and
		
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			temperament modifications of
identity memories from the donors
		
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			life memories. Well imagine having
memories but it's someone else's
		
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			life. What by the way, we're
reading from PubMed, okay.
		
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			Yep. Okay. The acquisition of
donor personality characteristics
		
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			by recipients following heart
transplantations is hypothesized
		
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			to occur via the transfer of
cellular memory, and four types of
		
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			cellular memory are epigenetic
memory, DNA memory, RNA memory,
		
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			and protein memory. Other
possibilities such as the transfer
		
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			of memory via intracardiac
neurological memory and energetic
		
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			memory are discussed as well.
implications for the future of
		
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			heart transplantation are explored
including the importance of re
		
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			examining our current definition
of death. Studying how the
		
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			transfer of memories might affect
the integration of a donated heart
		
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			determining whether memories can
be so you donate the heart of a
		
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			half as you suddenly wake up as a
Hafiz
		
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			can be transferred via the
transplantation of other organs
		
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			and investigating which types of
information can be transferred via
		
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			heart transplantation is crazy.
What's not true this is commented
		
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			as a case of a girl with a new
heart who solved the murder of the
		
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			donor. Wow. That is amazing. Like
tapped into the memories before
		
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			they die. And then next up who
killed Netflix Netflix movie right
		
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			there. Don't mean that's a great
movie plot. That is a great movie
		
02:04:51 --> 02:04:55
			plot. Right? That's a great movie
plot. All right, little girl grows
		
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			up, has an accident needs or has a
disease or whatever it gets to
		
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			heart transplant right? And then
starts having visions and starts
		
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			having different preferences and
then all of a sudden she
		
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			finds herself in a location where
she shouldn't be where the
		
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			criminals are right? She doesn't
know why she's attracted to this
		
02:05:16 --> 02:05:17
			warehouse, right?
		
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			And then all of a sudden she finds
criminals there. And then all her
		
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			memories come back and she
realizes she solved a massive
		
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			crime. That's actually good fun.
That's a movie and she was eight
		
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			years old huh? No, it's not even
science fiction
		
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			after the pig 61 Wow 61 days
experimenting on people
		
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			ladies and gentlemen, we are over
the time does that come a little
		
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			better and everyone? We will see
you all Monday Bismillah Subhana
		
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			Allah humo will be handig Nisha.
		
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			Illa illa Anta nostoc Farooq gonna
to be like, well us in an insert
		
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			and Allah for you of course. Illa
Allah Deena Amano Amiel society
		
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			towards a while so Bill Huck,
what's a while sober sober, was
		
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			set up by Lake Como rahmatullah wa
barakato.
		
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			You
		
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			God