Shadee Elmasry – NBF 124 Surah adDhuha… Bee Sting Therapy
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at the time that he had converted into Islam. He was a young guy.
And he also had nothing to do. So he would come in, and I would just
teach him like every single day. And then he kept saying facts,
right? And I'm like, so one day, every time I say somebody say
facts, so one day, like I was sort of teasing him.
And I said facts, right? So you say no, no, no, you can't say like
that. You gotta say it.
Like, that's really that's terrible. You can't talk like
that. You can't say facts. You gotta say facts. So I was like,
what, what's wrong with if I say facts, right? He said, No, no,
it's like, you're totally messing it up. And you're like, it's not
cool. So it's like to be cool. I gotta be basically ignorant.
And butcher the words. But anyway, he kept saying that until just
just literally to tease him. I named the thing Nether effects
literally, just to tease him right. And then it actually ended
up it took off right but that's how we got the name I was
literally just just teasing the guy. And here we are. It's now an
official thing.
Today we're gonna kick off with a very interesting article that
really reminds should remind us how are we doing on audio we got
good
that ALLAH SubhanA wa Tada says
that what comes out of the stomach of the bee
Allah to Allah does not say he does not mention that. The honey
only right Yes, honey is a cure. There's no doubt about that. But
it does not mention honey only as a cure.
Yeah, hello Julian boltonia.
Alright, shut up. Telephone Eduardo.
Something a fluid that can be drank about to be alright. A fluid
that can be drank by the BF clergyman baloney that problem of
telephone and Wi Fi shifa. Only nurse it has a cure for people. So
the verse just says from its stomachs, okay, I want to get you
further someone's asking me already what suit what? What Sudha
Well, we know what suit it's going to be. We're talking about the
bees. So
I'm
gonna stay gonna put pull up this article
now a doctor sent me this article. So it's got to be somewhat
factual, right. So now here's an article boom we got it.
I don't know about this. This this this The Bright Side news is that
the brighter side news you ever heard of it? Is it is it the real
thing though? Anyway, a doctor send it to me so but we're, the
research is all there.
What Allah says yeah, clergymen. boltonia Sohrabuddin telephone and
one.
Telephone Edwin V. She felt on Enos
in the Philadelphia area, the communicator
telephone, telephone and Wi Fi he she felt loneliness. Now the
cancer community listen up folks put this on the map.
Not because this is like a
any of you have cancer it makes sure your doctor is part of this
organization because if he's not you just fire him right away.
You've heard of it. There I ducked into bed told me about it. Dr.
Nevada who has turned into like a Paralympian athlete,
who bikes 50 miles a day, but he's a cancer doctor isn't which is
he's an oncologist and he told me he's very proud of this website
that was made essentially not a website. It's it's a knowledge
sharing organization. Right knowledge sharing.
No, no, that's something else. No, this there's a cancer
organization. He's accusing oncologists. Right. So one time we
were chit chatting and he said there's a website he's very happy
because Syrians started this website. And he's Syrian,
essentially Lebanese, but very much similar to Syrians and
culture. But he said that they share knowledge on this website.
And, but this is a cancer community is buzzing over a new
study that says venom from bees can kill cancer cells. Alright, so
you got cancer, go piss off some bees, get yourself stung. But no,
they actually use this as they do it in a
in a controlled manner. Scientists at the Harry Perkins Institute of
Medical Research in Western Australia tested Venom
for more than 300 honeybees and bumblebees against two types of
aggressive hard to treat breast cancer. All right, listen up,
triple negative, and human epidermal growth factor receptor
to whatever, right No, no, this is only some technical terminology
that we're not familiar with. They found that a compounds and Venom
called melatonin could destroy breast cancer cells within an hour
Whoa, without causing harm to other cells. So there you go with
your
cancer to failure is asking.
It's he said it's called the MedNet
and that's the website where cancer physicians share knowledge
about their cases essentially. So same stick this in your cases, but
they've probably of course all discussed this. But the
what he's saying here is that it kills only
the other the cancerous cells. Alright, so the common treatments
today are what their first you go for chemo. And if that doesn't
work, they zap you with radiation. Right. Now, I was wondered how the
radiation works because how does it only affect like, how does how
do you zap someone and then the skin doesn't get affected, but it
only gets to the cell. So I finally asked a another oncologist
out in Chicago. You know Dr. Sinha. Their dad is an oncologist
that huge master data setup. Mufti Azeem with Dean's that, so I said,
How does radiation work when they zapped somebody? Right? Like why
doesn't it wouldn't it burn through everything else to so he
left he's like, no, no, we don't just use one rate. It's like
million is you're literally in a microwave. You're It's millions of
rays. Okay, that would not have been one of them by itself would
not have an effect on anything and then it finally
gets to the cancerous
or wherever they're focusing it on. And it fries it away. But this
though,
here,
there's the active component of honey bee venom. Melatonin is a
positively charged
amphipathic 26 amino acid peptide. How'd you do in chemistry?
Terrible, terrible. Meto researchers found it was able to
target cancer cells by shutting down the activity of molecules
over expressed in these cancers. Now, what is this? You probably
are just tuning in and wondering what what is he talking about?
Well, the reason we're talking about this is mainly that that
connects with the verse of Allah subhanaw taala and so it's not the
Sunnah of bees, which mentions the Aqua rhodium in Bhutan He that
comes out of its stomach. So Robin telephone Eduardo a fluid or a
drink, shut up. That something you can consume. That's colors
different, right fi he she found in this that but it has a cure for
people in here. I mean, this is a serious cure. They also found that
when used in conjunction with chemotherapy drugs, the melatonin
helped formed
pores in the cancer cell membrane, which could potentially allow
therapies to better penetrate the cells. Okay, good. So you're so
you're make sure that you don't knock out the chemo industry with
this order.
Go. So that you say that you know, when the venom is mixed, used in
conjunction with or not mixed but used alongside chemo chemotherapy
drugs, then the melatonin helps form pores in the cancer cell
membrane, which allows therapies to better penetrate the cell.
Wonderful. Now while the tests for this study were only done in a lab
setting, the researchers believed the compound can be synthetically
reproduced as a treatment for breast cancer so that's what they
always do they find this amazing thing in nature then they just
reproduce it in a more efficient manner.
It's much more efficient manner by reproducing it in the lab and they
can just isolate what is whatever is the active product that's
usually how they will go to the active ingredient. Okay, yeah,
crude human boltonia Sharabi telephone at one let's see I want
to see how he translate Shut up drink. Alright have different hues
more telephone and Wi Fi he she felt woundedness this is again one
of the logic behind this was you would ask yourself how in the
world would they would a profit
from or person from way back in that time? know to be general
about it? Because we know honey, even in that time, they knew honey
was a therapy, but to be general about it, because it says from its
stomachs so it's not just honey, because
you know honey is not you don't necessarily find honey always in
the stomach of the bee finds it in the hive. But from the stomach is
the venom. So the bee venom which we're all afraid of? Okay,
apparently now, it's really a big deal. So Dr. Marlena Toro, a
breast cancer researcher at Moffitt Cancer Center says while
the discovery is impressive, more research would need to be done
before it can be made become a viable therapy. Of course, you got
to study these things a million 1000 times before you actually
make it. And then the FDA has like really stringent rules because
they don't. By the way, when I went to the Dominican Republic, oh
my gosh, I have such an appreciation for rules now. Just
because when you see chaos, and I don't know what I wasn't, maybe I
just wasn't aware of it. When I went to the other, you know, the
Arab countries, maybe I just got used to it. But when you see
chaos, and just everything is sloppy. And anything goes so to
open a restaurant, you need to license a license. What if someone
gets sick? Well, I went to a restaurant there I went to
I went to Google, I typed in Hello restaurant. I go to the restaurant
and it's a guy's house. Right? There's zero regulations, zero
Nothing, I'm just eating like, it's like an invitation. And I
leave him some money on the table.
Like there's no regulations for anything.
Probably medicine. There's just no regulations and people are
probably getting messed up all the time as as much as
as much as the
you feels like you're more free.
But you're also more free to get screwed.
That's really the truth.
You cannot sue anybody right? Now you whatever happens happens
you're on your own. There's no lawsuit, you're on your own. Gotta
just saying has the time for mbf Jays. Now we are at we're at 130
time. But sometimes things happen. And this time the the charge has
stopped working. I don't know why.
These days, you literally need a whole kit of chargers. What did
they call toggles that connect from one charger to the next. All
right, then the good news is this study has shown that melatonin can
disrupt signaling pathways in breast cancer cells that are
responsible for growth and the spread of disease. However, there
have been many studies
where compounds have proved successful at killing cancer cells
in the lab or animal models, but it has taken many years for those
discoveries.
Make it to patients, if at all. So the the lag time from discovery or
theory really, to patient is a long time.
There's also another reason they don't like to disrupt industries
here. Right? It's it's I think there's some good to it. It's like
safety, but it's also they don't want to disrupt the industry. And
here you have like all these other treatments going and there's an
economy behind these treatments, we wouldn't have
treatments available to us if it wasn't an economy, a viable
economy, meaning that people could wake up from nine to five all they
think about is treating you and you get access to it. That can't
happen if he's not getting paid for it. So you can't just append
and disrupt an industry like that. They have to ease it in and you
have to like what they said in the article.
You have to work with that current industry. It's got to fit in.
Right so they're saying that oh, it works great. inconjunct
Question with chemo therapy drugs. I don't know if that's like the
case or if that's like
you know, just like something they're putting in there to make
sure that they're making everyone happy because there's a lot of
economics involved in in medicine.
And it's not all like demonic like sent.
What does that company called that?
That that's involved in all the food and soil and everything
Monsanto. It's not like all demonic, like the way they were
that Monsanto was
presented to us. But it's necessary, you can just disrupt a
critical industry, like the health industry like this. Tomorrow added
that approximately half of all current drugs are derived from
natural products, which demonstrates the potential of
using bee venom for drug discovery. Nature is a great
supplier of active elements and chemical synthesis. Okay. The
chemical synthesis has made it possible to provide many drugs of
natural origin in the dosage required for therapeutic use. And
that's the biggest thing that a lot of people
they don't think about when they think about natural medicine. I
want to go natural, yeah, but you don't know the dosage. Right? And
you don't know what the reactions, so it's about the dosage. That's,
that's the key.
And the original supply is that is like, oftentimes very limited and
very difficult. Right? There's a Netflix documentary on beats bee
sting therapy, and I got to get the, the got the bees, and they
cup it around the area, they put the bee in a cup. Right, and the
key, the bee immediately feels upset. Okay. And then they sting
the person there. And they say that they get good results. Now,
it's not like considered actual medicine. But it's a therapy that
people say works for them, if it works for them, and good for them.
I don't think there's a law against stinging yourself. Right?
So, but the key is the issue is the if you're going to really use
this you got to study what dosage is required? What are the active
ingredients? What about other ingredients that mix with, you
know, there could they could mix with,
you know, things that in the body or other medicines that you're
taking that are not good. So when Allah says fishy, there is a cure,
and it does not mean is 100% of cure 100% of the time, that's
something very important that many naive people think it's 100
insecure, 100% of the time, like black seed.
black seed have a bunch of soda is a big deal. But because the
Prophet SAW Selim said it's a medicine, but it didn't say at any
rate, it's like a certain rate that you have to take or else you
actually can harm yourself like water, you could you could over
drink, probably I'm sure there is a concept of over drinking water
as well as neutral as water is right? You can probably over drink
yourself to the point of ill health
or Alright, nature is a great supplier and active elements she
says and and then there are 220 1000 species of bees. So here
we go. There's a ton of type of bees. So which bees is mentioned
here. And this is where it's like, Allah subhanaw taala always wants
human beings to be scholars, like he wants to study. There's a lot
of factors, okay, so the B we all know that now. And honey is a
general cure for for living. We all have it in our homes. But
Allah Tada wants scholarship, he wants knowledge. He wants
specialized study, because that's really how human beings live. And
if everything was available to everybody, then I wouldn't need a
doctor. You wouldn't need a mechanic. We wouldn't need a
mufti, et cetera, et cetera. So there's 20,000 Now we get into the
really hairy details. 20,000 species of bees, which ones work
and which ones don't
get with the study looking at the European honeybee found in
Australia, Ireland and England, the bee population from each
country produced almost identical effects in breast cancer.
It also looked at the venom from bumblebees.
But this did not have the same effect and was unable to induce
cell death. So the venom of bumblebees, which is your the
little fatter bees, there's they're fatter, they're shorter,
and they make a lot more noise. Okay, Mohammed says I work for a
MHRA where the UK is medicine regulator ensuring public health
and Patient Safety is our main priority. So am I speaking, am I
saying what makes sense or no? Right? I'm making sense here that
they got to make sure they go really slow on these, you know,
these
these new discoveries.
It also looked at the venom from bumblebees. We said that one of
the first reports of the effects of bee venom was published
In 1950,
where Venom reduced the growth of tumors in plants.
I didn't even know plants get tumors. But well, over the past
two decades, interest in apitherapy has grown. So I guess
that's what they call it, as has interest in the effects on
honeybee Venom on different cancers.
Despite this, the molecular mechanisms and selectivity of
biomolecular components of honeybee Venom as anti cancer
agents remain largely unknown. prompting the new study,
understanding the molecular basis and specificity of bee venom
against cancer cells is key for developing and optimizing novel,
effective therapeutics from a natural product that is widely
available and cost effective to produce in many communities around
the world. All right, very well done. So good article, and
really interesting stuff. And if I had went into medicine, I would
have never went into the research side. I don't have the tolerance
and the patience for this academics. I need adrenaline, we
need action. I'd have been a surgeon, no doubt about it. No
surgery. Emergency Room surgery on top of that.
Oh, yeah. Yeah, I would have been an emergency I would have been a
great emergency rooms, because I love the pressure. Right? And I
love the idea like this is it life and death, and not life and death?
And then not study what medicine to take? No, give me gloved me up.
Give me up, give me saws knives. Take care of this person. You wake
up you think Allah and then you thank me for saving your life.
That's the type of medicine that I would have been in. Right? I'm
talking to am cups of coffee, roll emergency room boom, excitement.
Yes, that's what I would have been into. That's the only medicine I
would have been
excited about.
Now, let's get to our real forte here.
That was segment number one of today's nothing but facts live
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patreon.com backslash puffiness aside, comment from him academics.
They're a genre on their own Oh, they are who has the subject to
sit through those the those? You know, even in Islamic scholarship,
there are academics. And there are people like, like myself, who are
like we need to have some excitement here. We need to talk
to people. We need to do something new. I want to write we need to
make a difference. Academic can sit with the books, and they're
they're very important people, but it's a it's a genre of human
beings that's on their own.
All right. You tell him the budget is around 45 million says ma'am.
They'll turn around say no, we need 45.78 6 million death by
detail.
Academics. Clinical trials are easily manipulated and don't
always follow the rules says Joanne s. So there are a lot of
people here who know a thing or two about clinical trials, who
knew that Muhammad was in this and now Joanna's pitching in telling
her
experience with this Lavon Brown says working for a CRO it's a
difficult manipulate it's difficult manipulating clinical
trial. A lot of regulations and moving parts plus budgets. So
Lavon has an opposing opinion to Joanna. All right. So we have
clinical trial beef in the live stream in the chat. Alright, Dino
says no, Joanna. It's true. It's all in the stomach maintaining a
healthy
microbiome is key
Lavon there's a lot of oversight.
Alright, so this is a whole world and my mother in law worked in
this field too. She She produced medicines for one of these drug
companies on route one. So you know, a lot of people don't know
this, but we're like the hub of all these pharmaceuticals. If you
drive past iCj domestic like NBC is here. So this is how New Jersey
works.
So
Manhattan's here, Newark Airport is here.
And then a little bit you come to hit New Brunswick. Then you keep
going south, you're going south west, right?
After New Brunswick, you hit Princeton University.
Okay. Between New Brunswick in Princeton University's ISTJ, the
newly med school and the big local general mosque or the central
mosque, I should say, between iCj and Princeton is all the
pharmaceuticals. All of them are there. Right. And the mom, the
mother of all pharmaceutical
companies is j&j. Like they're the oldest one, they're the founder of
the bandaid. They're the ones who invented the bandaid and the first
aid kit, right. And they're in the heart of New Brunswick. They own
the Jets
so they're in the Brunswick and and then all the other campuses
are out in out that Southwest area part of between South Brunswick
and New Jersey and
and watch McCollum
and Princeton and somebody here playing the plague pigeon is
telling me
he's saying he's in East Brunswick. Okay, good. So you know
what we're talking about Johnson and Johnson is in New Brunswick,
the headquarters, they founded the first aid kit, that's how they got
rich. And then they just went on and on and on and, and went into
different food spheres. Segment Number Three of today's live
stream, as baboon Ouzoud surah Taha
Okay,
let's Bevin ozone. Service, is a soda for anti depression. If you
have sadness, if you have grief, if you have depression, you
shouldn't you should recite sudut umbrella. And how do you get out
of general sadness, I'm not gonna say collect clinical depression.
Like many people, they get upset if they're in the psych field.
When I speak about depression, and I say it doesn't exist for a
moment. In a long term period, it could exist short term only. But
what I'm talking about is your general sadnesses and griefs and
upset misses, right? Because we have a different belief, we don't
always only believe that it's externally induced, right?
something bad happens so I became depressed. You could actually that
you could actually pull down.
Like, it's almost like you're pulling down medicine through of
God that will heal your heart and remove the sadness and that
sadness is treated like a thing that descended upon you, okay,
maybe it descended upon you through an event that happened in
the world.
Yet at the same time, the, the, the meanings are also a reason the
meanings of these sutras are also a reason for the sadnesses to go
away. And that is the the hope that is present in Surah, surah
Taha is just just kicks off with hope, because aloha is when the
sun comes up. So the sort of name itself and the first word, what is
telling you that there's going to be a new day. So don't you see how
there's always a new day, like, every bad thing that happened in
human history in the world, there's always been another day
and another day, another day, and time washes away all these rungs.
So the idea of a Baja is that the image by itself right away,
there's a new day coming, you're already starting off fresh,
because the image of the new day of a new sunrise, it just it
coming out of that image is always penetrates your heart with the
idea of newness. Renewal, got
both our lady in the center and the night. Right when it's still.
And then look at look at this a man with dark got a book on your
Lord has not abandon you and does not hate you. Because many people
think bad thing happens abandoned, and maybe a lot is unlikely,
right? People think like that. Why? Because we have a natural
tendency of anthropomorphism. Naturally, if someone does
something bad to me, something happens that's bad. That person
must not like me. But that's not the case with Allah subhanaw taala
because people have limited knowledge. But Allah todos
knowledge is far greater. So a terrible thing may actually be
avoiding a far worse thing, right? You just you cannot fathom it. And
the idea to when you deal with ALLAH SubhanA wa Tada, you have to
know that you cannot fathom a lot
of the possibilities of life. You just can't fathom them, whether
they're good or bad. You can't fathom them. So you just have to
believe it. Right, that things would have been far worse. Okay.
And that's how you handle a tribulation. There's a lot of
wisdom in this, but I can't always see the wisdom. I can't see it
now. But there has to be wisdom and worst case scenario. There's
Wisdom in Africa, but usually Allah shows us the wisdom in this
life first.
Right? As a gift, if you're faithful and pious, you see the
wisdom in this life before the next. And that's really a gift
from Allah subhanaw taala and say Nalli was so not just wise, he was
so close to Allah subhana wa Tada, he would say, I will see the
wisdom while the event is happening. It's upon Allah, like,
like, as something bad is happening. He sees the wisdom
ready. And that's the way that Allah cures people's hearts.
Because it's one thing I tell you some, I do a terrible thing to
you, right? And I say trust me. And to the degree that I trust
you. Like, okay, fine, I'll trust you. But, but if I tell you, and
if I show you what the wisdom is, all of a sudden becomes so easy.
But that doesn't happen right away because Allah wants you to learn
to trust him. So there are always some cases where you don't know
the wisdom, you won't know the wisdom. Because there is a need to
develop within us trust in Allah time.
But in many, many, many cases, Allah is just generous with his
worshipers. Those who are taking this Deen seriously and they're
taking a bad a seriously that Allah gives them the wisdom right
away. And all of a sudden, boom. It's almost like a cloud lifts.
And I'm not down about this anymore, I might be in a little
bit of pain. I might be sad about the change of events, let's say
people dying, for example. But I know that this dead person,
they're going to a better place and I'm going to have maybe even a
better future is not an insult to somebody. It's not an insult to
somebody that you have a better future after they die. Right?
Taking death as an example. Mao had Dakka Dakka Dakka Dakka Dakka
Dakka Dakka Mina Lula. So this is a belief for a moment, his future
is always better than his past. If your movement and your you putting
effort, that's the key, the key is you got to put effort, right? If
you're putting in effort here, your future is always better than
your past. You might ask yourself, well, I don't see that will tell
you you're not seeing properly. You got to think outside the box.
That's the key. Don't think only in this little box that you
imagine like bank account health looks, no your future is always
better than your past.
That's that's the way things are you have to believe that right?
Because when Allah speaks to the messenger, he's speaking to all
those also who are following the messenger PSP upon right, being on
the path of a prophet means whoever is against the prophet is
against you, whatever is for the Prophet is for you. Right?
Whatever promises are given to the prophet is given to you. Right? So
we take from those promises, to the degree that we're following
this prophet peace be upon what I'm gonna do, I don't recommend
that Gula
it doesn't mean just the afterlife, it means everything. It
is the afterlife, of course, in that verse, I've got an EU law,
but it's also every single day, every single the next day is going
to be better than this day. And for the simple reason, if you want
to go to the barebone basics, listen to this hadith, two
brothers, one was pious, one was regular Muslim Sahaba. This is a
regular Muslim, prays five times a day and fast some month of Ramadan
visits the Prophet maybe once every, you know, month or
something goes to July, of course in Medina, but otherwise he's a
farmer outside in the in the area outside the city. So the Pious One
died.
And then the regular Muslim died six months later. So the Sahaba
said, the Pious One, the more virtuous one died six months
before his brother.
So the prophets I sent him when he heard them saying more virtuous,
right, he said, and how do you know that his brother did not
catch up?
Did he not pray
for six months more than his brother? Six months of Salah do
you do takes a lot to be a light thing. That obligatory five
prayers. Do you think that's a light thing that by itself could
have caught him up? He prayed for six months more
than his brother so that could have caught him up. Also, who's
you praying behind to spraying behind the messenger? PSP fun. So
the idea here is that it's a belief, at the very least, the
life of a Muslim is always better for him. If he's pious, just that
you're praying, you're fasting, you're remembering Allah more.
There's also seniority with Allah, there is seniority with someone
who worshipped ALLAH SubhanA wa Tada for 50 years, not someone who
just started for two years, right? Even if the talent and the
devotion of the rookie is at a high and the other one he's
surviving, you don't know what he's been through and he kept
faithful. He could have been through sicknesses, divorces, his
kids went astray. He went for you got rich and lost as much you
don't know what he went through, but he stayed faithful. Okay. And
there's a reward for that. So where Allah to add to where a
person may not have the reward of having some great skill, you
Have the reward of longevity.
And you see this in industries too. So after when some people
say, you have a great career, what's the next best compliment
after a great career is having a long career, because you can make
up for it, right, you can make up for what your skill level was
lower. But by the years, you gain a wisdom that nobody else has
access to, like, in the same way that people are born with natural
skills of intellect, like some of these academics, right? Or in
other fields, they have natural skills that we can't, I can't
catch up to him because of his natural skill. While Allah may
give a person longevity, and longevity will give you wisdom
will give you you'll see thing, you'll see so many things. And
you'll come to you start connecting dots. You can't produce
that in a lab. You can't write that in a book. You only can it
only comes to those who lived. And there's a wisdom too, is that a
lot of these guys, these veterans in any field, they can't really
explain
their wisdoms. They can't explain it. Like it's it's something like
it's a snapshot that they know right away. Okay. I've seen that
before. But he can't explain it. There's wisdom in that. If he did
explain it. It would he'd be of no value. Right? If he could explain
it'd be of no value. Right. So. So that's the key here.
Amazing story about? Here's a question from Raj, he says, Isn't
the story also that someone saw a dream of the regular Muslim
entered? Oh, okay. Maybe that I might have missed that part. Raj.
They said that the regular brother, we just lived the regular
Muslim life. He entered gender before the Pious One. So Patil and
that may be that's why for the six months praying behind the Prophet,
right, so that he's got to be honored for that. Right. So yeah,
I missed that part of the of the story. Thank you, Raj.
So SubhanAllah.
This concepts
when it comes to head or neck, Nullah, Sophia, you're the kind of
book of a total blah, this that's the verse you lead up to the
final, now you're injected with this, you're just injected with
energy, you're injected with motivation, you're injected with
with so much positivity, when he says, when a sofa, y'all pick up a
book, a federal law, ALLAH SubhanA, WA, tada will give you,
your general he will give you so that you will be happy.
At that point, not only is what is coming better, we're going to
receive something that will make us happy because isn't isn't every
creature living to attain a level of happiness, right? Even a deer
wants to drink and eat and sleep and live that life.
Beasts, trees, the lean towards the sun, everyone is living an
existing, you know, for what would make it happy. All right. And
that's what really we want. And we shouldn't shy away from that.
Because one of the reasons people love Allah subhanaw taala and have
devotion is because
it makes them happy, right? Yesterday, we just attended three
more times in a row. We talked about the love of the Messenger of
Peace be upon him, but I wish that the topic came up. And if I had
had a chance to talk to you, I know what it said it. People don't
really understand how is it you love somebody you've never seen?
It doesn't make any sense. So the concept and the idea is that
people love the Salawat first, the practice, because saying the
Salawat you may think like, I don't know if I'm gonna try it,
right. But when you do,
it's almost like a spiritual honey enters inside us such a Sakina and
a cure for all of these terrible things that happened to people and
these feelings that are inside one. I just gone. Like I can't
even explain how nothing changed in the world, the feeling is gone.
So people first love the Salawat because they experience it. You
cannot just love somebody who's just an idea. You have to feel
something first. If you can't see it, you got to feel it at least.
So that's what we do have we do have that feeling? Right? And then
there's like the other aspects of the profit is purely mental.
Where, for example, you realize Yeah, like if if we didn't have a
law that I couldn't control, like what people do, you wouldn't be
able to control like a husband and a wife. What what is to make him
control that she doesn't go out with another guy and just leave
you like what there's no real law for this outside of sacred law.
Right. Okay, decency. Fine, but what if I'm not there, but where
is there a law that says that she can't go, you know, some on a
business trip with her boss? Is there a second? Is there a non
sacred law for that? There? There isn't. So you got guys living out
there that are so uncomfortable, and it's probably goes the other
way to the wife.
She's got a big shot husband
And with like two secretaries, right, who she loves, she doesn't
even know who they are. And he's spending eight hours a day with
them.
And then he comes home spends three hours with his wife. How
does that make any sense? Right? So there's sacred law, because the
law that the Prophet brought down and the the line in the sand that
his city I drew for us, it actually just eliminate so many
things, I couldn't be able to convince my kids not to do drugs,
how I just have to show them, look, this is what happens. That's
it. But that's weak. Don't drink, don't do drugs. So all these
things that are actually like they ruin people's lives.
They mentally realize, thank God that we have this religion because
otherwise I wouldn't be able to,
to apply that to myself or others. And we live now you look around,
there's no drugs, there's no alcohol. There's no Zina.
You don't realize how massive these three things are. There's no
interest. Because credit cards, I want to get something I'll pay for
it later. Right? It's, it's one of the most tempting ideas. If there
was interest, I would have started 50 businesses by now. Right. But
again, because there's interest, but then again, you fail on those,
you're these people, gambling, these people are almost like
suicidal, right? When they mess up. So all these is how the
prophets of Allah who it was salam, by the law that Allah
brought through him, saved us from all these problems. So that's
mental, I see it mental, but then the Salawat that's a feeling. So
people are always trying to be happy. And, and those Salawat
that's why people love the messenger. First, they love the
Salawat. Then after some time,
they start to attribute that to the Prophet himself, that they
start to connect it to the rock, just like in Islam, people love
the acts of worship first. And they love Allah after that.
Because you think of the acts of worship, they give us something to
do masajid ombre. You've been talking before. This is the first
time good. So you you to go to ombre. You go to Ramadan, every
night. It's like all of a sudden, like I got friends I know people
are there's always something to do. So you love the acts of
worship first. And then the one whom you worship. That is comes
later. Right? So there's always got to be this connection. So here
when we say this, what a sofa, y'all think in a book of unsettled
law? People love a love because what makes them happy? But that's
a real simple answer to it. Right? If someone asked me, Why do you do
what what's going on? What do you do this? It makes me happy. What
can I tell you? Right? I had issues.
I said, let me give this a shot. My issues went away. I wanted
things. I said, let me go to the source. I got those things. It's
very selfish in the beginning, but that's okay. Because that's the
actual reality of life. People care about themselves first,
right? And then after that, you start looking at who gave me all
this now, you reach a point that Okay, from here on, I want to live
as a grateful servant. Like, I want to be grateful for this. I
want to show gratitude for this. And that's how you live so this is
the importance of this area, whether selfie or deca, a book of
a total dog, right? Allah Tada is going to give you so that you
become happier, right? Until you become happy. That means it's
possible for you to say yes, you gave me but I'm not fully
satisfied. Like it's not that it's not that I'm not satisfied, like
I'm greedy, but it didn't hit the spot yet. And it's possible that
it's very possible that someone could give you a very generous
gift but it hit the spot like this isn't it doesn't just it doesn't
take my eye off
you know things yet. And that and when Allah to Allah gives us a
gift to somebody it satisfies. Okay.
The difference between you know, those Hadith that if you give a
human a mountain of gold,
and he's only going to seek another one that's very important
to keep in mind, but when Allah gives some thing to somebody as a
gift, as a gift, and that person is is pious and he understands how
to receive a gift and how to be grateful it satisfies just like
the Hello always satisfies it should write the HUD that should
satisfy you and the Haram doesn't. Okay, so
let's
see what the man was ut brought us here.
He says Accra just shake on.
Korean Muslim and others will go home. And John Durbin, Carla, the
Sahaba name gender women Abdullah, he said a second EBU sallallahu
alayhi wa sallam for lamea comb Leila tun la Latane for attune
bruh for quality and Mohammed Mirage satanic Illa Katara caca
phelim So the Prophet was sick, he was sick, and he didn't get up for
a night or two. A woman from Croatia pagan woman, she said
Mohammed I don't see anything
cept that your double has abandon you because they thought or they
said, Oh, he's got a gin essentially. So they're not we're
not the only people who hears the noise at night and says gin these
people to anything different is a gin. So they said you have a
shaytaan a gin
but Taraka he left you he abandoned you. Fans Allah Allah
that Allah revealed what Baja
lady that said that matter what kind of book on Allah, Allah has
not abandoned you or left you or hate you.
And now another one says, cut what die Mohammed unifund So let's
Gibreel Allah Nabi sallallahu alayhi wa salam so Gibreel did not
come to the prophet for a period of time. Why is this waiting
period there? This waiting period is there because something that's
heavy, you have to want it you can only carry carry it if you want it
badly.
So desire will produce strength. That's how it works. Okay, waiting
for our guests here. Can you call them Stefan? He's going to bring
our guests Let's blow I'll just call him here.
You You're here, come on up to the third. I'm gonna send Habib down
to come bring you up right now. Okay, you gonna pick them up? Our
guests are here, ladies and gentlemen. The cameras, the
cameras, see if you can make it work, but at least the mics should
work. Yeah. Our guests are here folks.
So
they accused the prophet of having this this demon and the Prophet
sallallahu alayhi wa sallam was waiting on Revelation and becoming
very sad and taking this abuse. And this actually strengthened it
strengthen the Prophet's desire, like comes a point I want this.
Whatever it takes, I'm gonna get this right. Let's greet our guests
and our shoe here Masha, Allah, Allahu Akbar come on in we're
ready on but come on in Davao.
All right. So it's made you're gonna pan the camera
look at this. Are you What is it about?
This guy on the magazine on it? Take see the mics working.
gonna sit over here
so have you get the mics to work and then we can pan the cameras
because we don't have the second camera up today. Unless you can
get it up, but it's might be complicated. All right, well, we
got four guests today now that it brings a close to segment number
three, which was sort of
all right, aloha. segment number three for our live stream
has come to a close bringing us to segment numero Quatro. Alright,
segment number four. We have some notable guests all thanks to MC GP
and the maps of one four. Look who came up. You're up already. So
this was the this was the gathering yesterday. This is the
first posts all right, that is up on my Instagram.
What a panel this was Subhan Allah who is who is the imam from from
Philly Muhammad Cromer you said you started
use of Chroma How do you spell that? Okay, well with the CH K rom
H is quite well known use of Chroma. He's actually a man he
owns a suit company. Is that where you get your suit from?
Fortunately, but one day isn't as heavy is that he lives in Egypt, I
think between Egypt and the state. Okay.
Nice. Nice use of Chromia they know him here. Yeah. Talking about
hey, how's the mics? Alright, now you have to hold the mic very
close. If any of you talk just pull the mic very close to your
mouth. So now let's go to Why don't you pan the camera to our
first guests. Let's go to this whole wall right here. So we
talked to both of these gentlemen right now. All right, look at
these guys. Mashallah. So this is the dual Come a little closer. You
guys are a dual dual right?
Bring it pull this mic next to you. Right up to your right up
your mouth so everyone can hear. Now.
Talk to me first. who's older first? Which one's your older
Okay, so we'll start with
that very quickly. Yeah, bring it bring it even closer all the way
like a little mini Yeah.
I can walk
Alright, so chips my Bowers is from from Tennessee. That's right.
Knoxville, Knoxville of Irish and Moroccan backgrounds. Correct.
German on my father's father's side and my mother is Moroccan
That's right. Okay German and Moroccan background.
that right so Bowers is a semi last name it means like pharma in
German. Oh, I should have figured that out because the ice skates
company is called Bauer. Yeah, yeah. Bauer skates so it does
sound very German. So alright talk to us. So you you want you grew up
in Tennessee, then you went studied in a market. That's right.
I spent eight years in FES yeah about eight nine years and
hamdulillah all of it and fast but some of it was in really out about
Yeah, so before that actually, I went to Teddy him. Oh, Mr. Allah
for like two weeks Wow. To visit. So, in Knoxville, we had people
like Shelia highroad is visit
Imam Sadek Sheikh Salim visited, there were like retreats that they
did in Knoxville. So I heard about TDM, Dr. Mustafa, and I wanted to
visit and I was thinking about, where should I study the Shetty
out, and I went there for about two weeks. And then after that, I
went to Morocco. And I met Sheikh Mohammed Jacobi, for the first
time. And I asked him his thoughts. And he told me, you
know, because I'm half Moroccan and I have citizenship in Morocco.
And I got married to a Moroccan, I said, it'd be best, you know, to
try to benefit from some teachers here. So then I ended up studying
with him for some time and other scholars privately, like in their
homes. And then I apply to al Qaeda when Al Hamdulillah a lot of
people don't know that it's still functioning.
Hamdulillah. So, yeah, and then I came back to the States after that
about two years ago, straight to Ohio. That's right, straight. Oh,
you guys want to vent? Sorry. Do you guys want to vent?
Okay, good. Good, good.
So you, you know, you both worked in the masjid. That's right, you?
How did you divide up the work? So he was there before me for about a
year. And he was the main imam of the masjid. And I was the
associate email. So I kind of helped and filled in when he was
gone, or, like in the summers, and then I also helped with youth
programming. So and then at the end, we sort of both did use
programming together. But yeah, it was just really, we complemented
each other we sort of have different personalities. But we
studied from some of the same teachers and have kind of the same
goals and vision that's great. Similar to you, and a lot of
teachers
that you know, a lot of the who did not so
I'm gonna we there is a good circuit that makes things almost
predictable, pretty much like you can predict the mean things, which
is necessary so that when people come and work together, they very
easily know. Yeah, you know, who's who and what's what. And that's
one of the reasons why there are Messiah, it's certain Messiah in
the Sharia in Islam, that if you think about it, it takes up. It
may be, you know, not a big, huge issue in daily life. But it takes
up so much of the controversy. But it's almost becomes a sign or a
litmus test of where people stand. So just by that, you know,
everything about them basically points to like, it points to their
manage. Yeah, exactly. All right. So let's now turn to your friend.
Now, we met a long time ago, you're gonna do that coffee shop.
Yeah. And that was something that didn't work out. You mentioned
that. Yeah. SubhanAllah. I think we met while I was
living in Allentown at the time. Yeah. It was about seven years
ago, a long time ago, I had the honor of spending some time living
in Allentown in the beginning.
And you know, that we had several projects lined up. And I think
that was one of them. Yeah. And then yeah, Masha, Allah, I was
telling, I'd like to tell tell those tuning in that when I met
Dr. Shadi, you know, it was by accident, because it was
dinnertime, after the gathering, and he was literally the most
unassuming person there he was just sitting there with his plate
of food, you know, eating very little I remember the details
actually very little, unassuming, very, very humble. I said so I'm
wondering what's your name up Shadi?
Marshalls Do you study Yeah, I studied I still a little bit you
know nothing mashallah very, very humble, unassuming. And it was a
it's really an honor to know people like this because that's
the that's the true quality of and so we see that in you FASCO model.
Could you pan the camera over a little too deep because we're,
that's a good angle. No, that's a great angle for the Instagram.
That's all that's necessary.
In the center, that's
alright, so talk to me. Then you went out and you
You said that you went out to Egypt had mentioned you mentioned
you to Russia. Yeah, we met. We met over Voice Note was voice
note. And then you met in Egypt. Yeah, we met in Egypt after doing
like a formal program in Cape Town. I did. I was doing my
master's degree in Islamic Studies. And with Imam sulfon My
Show last four we met and became very, very close. hamdulillah
Yeah, really good history. And I wanted to actually, I finished
quite quickly, but I took the next two years of my masters to take
the thesis a little slower. Yeah, I was doing my Newman deal with
Aurora complicated subjects. So I, I went abroad. And those are
masters. Now as my masters. What's cool, Dan? Oh, man. Yeah, so I did
it through ban. Shade you had Brown was my advisor,
Imam, Jihad Turk in one year. Yeah. fessor in one year was also
my advisor. And so yeah, I sat with some of the scholars shahada
was one of them. And I just, you know, started asking them these
questions. And I figured it was it was a good time for me to continue
developing.
And continue studying as you know, shift better than we do that, you
know, that doesn't stop the pursuit. Yeah, there's no such
thing as a, like a, like a six year to become a chef like, right,
that is a never ending pursuit. And I think that was just another
phase of it. And then I returned, you know, to serve, you know, the
beautiful Masjid in Toledo, Ohio, where I was able to serve there
with three years with my best friendships, my hours. And the
thing is that it's not only that, there's no such thing like, just
study just and stop. That may be a good thing if someone's going to
become a kadhi or a Mufti. Right. But also, there's another factor
you think about, there's no there, you can't leave people. If you
have one, like benefit for somebody. People are thirsting and
dying. They need, you know, needs to be transmitted because our
competition,
they have multi million billion dollar industries, of getting to
our next generation and our friends and peers in our
generation. They're, they're getting two people at a rate.
Yeah. So it's not just like, Oh, I'm gonna benefit myself, and then
I'll help others. But well, what's your enemy doing? Yeah, exactly.
Your enemies are already lightyears ahead of us in getting
to people. So we also have to get to them. So that's why it's almost
like you need all
what's the phrase? All hands on? It's all hands everybody at every
face, even if you're a thought of in, right? Yeah. Okay, be a
thought event. But you didn't, you should have learned something.
Right.
So you now you need to learn what is the adab of me passing the
song?
And then you need to pass that off. Right? Who doesn't know
exactly. The first thing I was taught was, when you learn it will
do you go home? You teach that to somebody because someone doesn't
know what, right and most people know how to make do. But they
don't know, what's the difference between was afforded them? What's
it something, which is important, because if they ever in a
situation where they're going to miss the time, they need to just
do the foot size, and then make the prayer on time. But also,
there's a logic to learning photo ID and Sunon. And no awkward is
that it gives you a logic and any kid who has a brain one out of
like, let's say 50 kids in a community really has a sharp mind,
and is not going to tolerate like a general fluid. Okay, just do it
this way. I've got to I need to know. Okay, what if this happens,
right? Like, what if that happens? Sometimes when you see those
details in FIP? And you ask yourself, well, this is not. This
is not practical. Let's just stick with the fifth. No, the fifth
throw some fedoras wants to know, like, has to know, you gotta have
to know. So I remember when I was growing up, and saw a hadith of
the militia we had
these two Hadith are bringing opposite things, right? It's gotta
be an answer. Like, I know there's an answer.
Oh, no, just don't ask the question. But then again, that
that's this, is it right with anybody? Right. If you asked the
question has to be answered. The fitrah may be that you don't have
to ask the question. Right. But once the question is asked and
must be answered, otherwise, that's a fitna for people to fit
in. So it has to be answered. Now. So tell us about your next
endeavor. It's going to be a PhD. Both of you are doing PhDs. Yes.
Right. Your What's your topic first. So I did a master's
at Emory on Muscadelle Hadith. So this is a theological
interpretation of Hadith or Mushkin. You know, like, for
example, define for our audience, what is the meaning of Mushkin?
So,
theologians in Islam, they explain that there are certain things that
are impossible for Allah. Yes, impossible for Allah.
So for example, Allah cannot be ignorant, impossible that Allah
can be ignorant, contradictory contradicts the meaning of Allah.
Exactly, exactly. So there are verses in the Quran that if you
just translate them into English or you try to understand them from
their apparent meaning they may be anthropomorphic God into give him
some physical features that what is the chemistry he shaped there's
nothing like him. So he's not like that. So Mushkin al Hadith this
topic is taking a Hadees that may seem anthropomorphic outwardly,
but explain interpret them in an in a way that is that is possible
to escape that anthropomorphic interpretation. So for example,
the first Headies that and so my topic was on,
even for AAC, is text mosquito. How do you spell Diana,
which hasn't been translated, which hasn't been worked on? This
is your master's? Okay. Yeah. Because now I'm going to continue
that into my PhD before I before you continue. I'm thinking to
myself, what professor in Atlanta is grading that right?
Well, you know,
I'll tell you actually, there are two professors at Emory that I was
very impressed with Devin Stewart. And Vincent Cornell. You know,
I've heard that. So I mean, I was impressed with them. And
Alhamdulillah I did well, and I think they really liked me as a
student. And they helped me and supported me in this research and
encouraged me, but the first Hadith even for like mentions in
his book, by the way, even before, like is the student of the student
of Imam and Ashanti. Great. Abu Hassan, three workers in a row,
correct?
That's right. That's right. That's right. Yeah.
So the first Hadith he lists there is a lot of supervisors, nobody
will set them up hudec Allah Who Adam Isla Surah T. Allah created
Adam in his image. Now the question is his
is talking about who is it that Allah created Adam, in Allah's
image? If you say that there, there's an apparent
anthropomorphic interpretation? So I'll call the
shape. If even for UK what does he say? He says, no, there are many
ways of us interpreting this. One of them, he says, is a law created
Adam, in his own image as a man not as a baby as a child that
developed right, yeah, so Allah created Adam in this image. So it
removes that anthropomorphic interpretation. Anyways, the point
is, I did that for my masters and I translated sections of this
text. And for my PhD, I am going to try to translate the entire
text and kind of write in an analysis of this subject, because
what I found is there's been a lot of research in Western academia on
to wheat and Quran in Kenya, like interpretation of coriander,
Kadeem, but I've literally found nothing or very little on Hadith,
on interpreting Hadith from a theological lens. So
amazingly, this is some of the sources whether you're going to be
urban photo, of course, no, he shot him and Hunter showed him how
they judge those will be like, like, that's golden there. Right.
And there's actually one text before, even for up because he's
back, you know, this is 300 Your Hijiri Yeah, 360 or Hijiri.
There's only one text before his by a chef named Evan kotoba. He
wrote one tax on Mushkin. And then the second one was by even four
and then yes, there are many, many resources that we have on how to
interpret interpret Hadith at UCLA, when we studied the shadow
Havel, call Toby on sighing Muslim, and I'll be on chat so
Hey, Muslim, and so you see how they deal with these a hadith?
Yeah, so one of the big issues that people when when they, when
they hear the phrase impossible for a lot, they get very nervous,
they get very upset. So I really think I think the right phrase
would be, or you tell me what you think about this is
contradictory
to the two attributes of ocean. I think that is a better
translation. Yeah. It contradicts what we what Allah is, right?
Yeah. Because it's inconceivable exactly because like in beginners
texts, we study what is wedge if necessary for Allah. And yeah,
that which contradicts who Allah Yeah, contradictory, because at
that point, then you say, no, no one wants to be contradictory. No
one wants a contradiction. But yet at the same time, when we say
impossible for Allah, it requires, it requires not
I am of masala Hemanta. Right? And many people don't have this. So
they're thinking you're saying impossible, linguistically? Oh,
that means Allah is limited, right? So the immediate I see
this, I can't tell you how many times even from people who are
fuqaha who don't study Kalam and there is a lot of mana who's out
there, they have a lot of FIP and they memorize entire Quran.
But they never studied Kalam, let alone the terminology of monthto.
Right. So that's what like logically or it's inconceivable
to an contradicts the actually attributes of Allah subhana wa
jawed. But once you say that, then people can receive that, right?
They could they could, they could accept that without the nervous
reaction of are you saying Allah is limited? And this is why
this is why our lemma would teach us the importance of studying
Montek logic, if you want to.
If you want to specialize in theology, St. Paul, you can't just
study aqidah and study books without understanding logic. And
that's why they removed that which doesn't conform and does an Islam
won't accept. But there are a lot of principles that are necessary
to understand Allah gave us a mind. Yeah, and it works in a
certain way. Yeah. And logic is a self discovered subject. I mean,
if you leave some leave human beings out by themselves, they
will come upon months, it's not something that has to be
transmitted, nor does it have to be discovered in Earth in nature.
It's something that human beings themselves will come combined come
with these Pouliot and these principles, right? That's why it's
it's there is an actual official, there's a term for it in
epistemology, where it's like a
self developing subjects, every human being will come upon these
Pouliot principles. A qualia is something that applies all the
time. Right. So that's, that's the idea here that this knowledge is
okay. So when they always, you know, they always attributed to
the Greeks, and maybe they were the first people to write about
it. And then they added some things from their cultures, right.
But that just there's nothing Greek about this, right? This is
just common sense. Universal is not well suited fit for all men
and Monckton, right? Well suited FIP is a branch of Monza. So if
you're going to talk in, if you're going to have a specific logic,
the logic of how to interpret the Quran and the Hadith, there must
then be a general logic of how to interpret words in general. Right,
not just the words of Quran Hadith that's well suited. FIP, though,
so month up to me, is that something that it's extremely
important to know the fundamentals of it? Everyone's got to know the
fundamentals, right. And the importance of that Kadem cannot
possibly contradict one another. You know, this makes me think of
yesterday, she I mean, you talked about Adam, and he sat down, he,
he made this mistake. And then he asked Allah forgive him, and he
may do using also the name of the Prophet. Sorry, sir. And then
Allah asks him why and Allah knows. But he used logic. Yeah.
And he said, Because I saw his name connected to you. So I knew
he must be. Yeah. So even with Adam, it says upon Allah, and he's
created with this fitrah immediately. And that's what one
of the unique things about saying that Adam is created with, clothed
with Adam, because he says Bismillah right. Before he eats,
he's created with a dab. And he's created with with, because he
makes judgments made a judgment immediately when he saw that night
along humbler sort of a notch, therefore, he must be the most
beloved, that's there's a, there's a principle there, that is assumed
embedded within him, that what is nearer to Allah must be beloved.
Right? No one taught him that what must be near must be beloved, it's
like within human beings, we have logic, you can see a baby woman
taking care of a baby, except that you're gonna assume she's
nurturing the baby, she's not torturing the baby, right? So
there's gotta be there are these things that are built within us.
And that's the mantra that the automat of Islam promoted, and put
forth because it's the correct use of the intellect. So I look
forward to that and what I hope that is that if you can make a
common men's, you know, version of this, this book, whatever this
book is, even if on your on your way, you make little booklets for
the common men's, right.
Yeah, for for your, for your thesis, or even this master's
thesis. You can take little snippets for everybody because our
Dean works because everybody gets knowledge, right? That's why our
Dean works rather than the way of academics where there's a guy who
knows everything about physics or engineering, right? And then but
he can't share this isn't there's nothing to share. There's nothing
for him to the common man to share. Right so but our knowledge
is supposed to be trickled down at all.
All times trickle down, right? And that's where the the benefit is in
the thumbnail is when everybody has this knowledge. Right? So
that's amazing. It's amazing thesis. And I always find even
when nobody's
commentary on the Morticia Behat, these are Hadith to be so
powerful, and I actually save on my phone. I have it as you don't
need to carry anymore these days, like knives and stuff. You carry
screenshots.
So I have an album here, I have a whole album called 10 Z. Right?
And whole album and the first one is mm hmm, no, he's
10 Z. Passage.
Right? Why am I not where he says I'm under the L L. He had either
Sefa to I had to see if he had choline. Now, right huduma Let me
just say it in English for everyone to understand this is the
great Imam. And now we know that regarding the verses and Hadith,
of the attributes, the people of knowledge, have two opinions
First, is the way of most of the setup or all of them. And it is to
speak about their meanings. Or sorry, it is not to speak about
their meanings, rather, they said is obligatory upon us to believe
in them, and believe in a meaning that befits His Majesty and
grandeur, with all full with our full belief. And this is the
important exception, that when they do talk about that, when they
say we don't even ask, we don't discuss it, but they also with our
full belief that there is none like unto him and that he has
transcended beyond having a body movement and displacement having a
direct and having a direction, right and other qualities of
contingent beings and I put this in red, right, this is also the
position of a group of theologians, right column scholars
and it is safer. The second opinion is that of the majority of
quantum scholars and is that they are interpreted with that which is
appropriate to its context, only those who are knowledgeable in the
language of the Arabs and the principles of both the legal
method and legal method and individual cases of suitable
follow up is a regular practitioner in the fields of
knowledge can enter into this domain. So this is the amendment
No, we shot which is on one of the first a hadith of SIFAT.
You can find it in volume three, but I can WhatsApp you I can send
you all this, this little clip. This is my weapon. Right? Anytime
someone answers, ask this question. Don't talk. Take this.
They say Okay, so you have you care more about No, we're done the
setup said the self didn't have the problems that no we dealt
with. Right? This is a no there are no hesitant nakida right? No,
as in our new matters, like today, we have a question that for
example, when I get my driver's license, what should I tell them
regarding giving out my eyes, my organs because people when they
get in a car accident right away, that's where they they take your
to you to the hospital, and they take your organs right away, to be
used. So this is another this is a new issue. Right? And we need
fatawa for this do we say yes? Do we say no? What do we put
conditions? So there are also this word Nazli you have to know is new
matters in nakida questions nobody asked before. So why didn't the
setup talk about it? Because nobody asked because there weren't
maybe there weren't the fitting and shouting that existed later
on. Right. So that's why we look at the cut off the scholars who
came later on matters of Akita right because certain questions
didn't come up. So that's really important and I'm looking forward
to this show. Let's let's see some comments from here. Say Mohammed
Daniel has an answer says Sheikh Mohammed wema said about this you
call everyone to make your own Jihad and interpreting the Quran
and Sunnah but when we oppose you you force us to follow you Okay,
so they're having a conversation and I thought this was when I saw
shift however alright, I thought he was talking about
some some work related to this but no All right, and let us now turn
to our other guests so have you Let's pan this camera Yes, we have
to go
all right now make sure let's put the maps one in the middle so that
because Instagram is always long that's the problem. It's always
put him in the foot for the maps if one of the middle first now
pull that mic right close to you. Shala
Yeah
Yes.
Put him a little bit more in the middle. Yeah, there you go. You're
good. No, you're good enough.
All right, ma'am. Stuff one. Year two in New Jersey are your one
we just finished year one year one, Mashallah. Mashallah.
Yeah, so you've been active and you acclimated pretty quickly and
I've told you this before that you like fit into the group really
quickly. Mashallah.
So hamdullah and but seems like you knew a lot of these like you
knew shaky acid from before, right? Yes. Like you knew a lot of
people from before Boston Yeah. Masha Allah, Masha Allah. So tell
us about this before this you were in Michigan, right? wasn't doing
time.
So yes, it's it's pretty funny but I was I was I was in college and I
was working as a youth director
for some time under you mentioned a little bit and then he mentioned
he left Boston and chickpea soup fattening game.
So, undershot here said, I did the new Muslims Congo word Oh nice,
nice to
Masha Allah, we finished the Quran a few times, like basically
Tafseer to the Subhan Allah. It was very nice.
And then my parents moved to Ohio. So I went to visit my parents and
my father asked me to give a talk at the masjid that fits my needs.
And deeper. So I gave a talk.
And there was a board member there for that message in Saginaw. So he
came up to me, and he had asked me if I wanted to interview, and I
told him I was upset because he had a good accounting job and you
direct or you're an accountant, a new Muslim.
thing. We I was doing weddings and funerals, I was making good money.
So hamdulillah was just like, No, I'm all set.
But yeah, it ended up happening about a year later. And so I spent
four years in Michigan. And that kind of COVID happening. Yeah. And
Michigan is a beautiful place. I won't I won't say anything bad.
But it was a piece missing, which was, there was no one really there
my age. Okay, you know, your company, ma'am. 25 years old.
Yeah. And you're all on your own. There's not It's not like here
where there's bunch of scholars and you know, just 10 minutes
away, you're 20 minutes to drive two hours. Wow, to see another
scholar and, you know, so it's, it got tough on me, because you know
how to love if you're in your 20s you know, a few things, but you're
not enough to be independent. Yeah, you need that network. And
even if you already know, I'm 30, I still need that. Right? It's
just the nature in the beauty of what we do.
But anyways, so I felt like, you know, just not having that group
of boys to always not have any Imams to learn from know how lucky
I was to go to all on you. And you're alone.
I felt like I needed to switch it up.
And also, I have to say to that this you have, like the senior
shield of the Arab world, they only got really tech savvy in the
last three years, right? If you notice that, like they really only
got on to zoom and onto what's up in mess, to the point that you
could say, Yeah, I can, I can continue benefiting wherever I am
in the world. Like I could say that now, like I take, I take
classes, I still take classes I still, I'm finishing the Maliki
fit curriculum, all on Zoom, like wherever I am in the world that
the sheath knows how to use it. Right. And there are younger
Sheoak now who are much faster, picking up these things. Like so.
But but only recently. Only a couple of years ago, there was no
connection. Right? Maybe it was because of COVID I think that's
what it was. It was such a blessing that it really is Anita
home and they had to teach they had it. That's what exactly it
was. And they have to learn what zoom was. And
WhatsApp became like everyone's on WhatsApp. Right. All the Arabs are
on WhatsApp. Yeah. I mean, during COVID Right after I left, the
entire year was online. SubhanAllah. And so all this you
Yeah, they need Yeah. And how to get the camera set. Exactly. Yeah.
And, and also how to share files, how to share screenshots. And
also, even something more basic than the tech itself is the actual
Ethernet connection. Like the actual Wi Fi. Yeah, whereas
connection, yeah, having a good connection may have been something
that was not a priority. But now it's a priority. It's like
budgeted in, it's like there's no way that we can live. You cannot
live anywhere as a shaker in this country. And by the way,
not to like spill private because a lot of these shields they did
far better financially, because you know, they're suffering far
better financially, because now they have like 510 Once you've
told me, he said he said 510 Western students. I'm done. Right.
Right. And this side job that his job with that was IRA. This was
added to it. Okay, that's just for the side, right.
Just the main thing. Yeah. And that has made it and these people
were suffering like they I don't know how they survive. Yeah.
Only salaries this big. But the emails in the Middle East, it's
expected even when my father back in the 70s when he's an Imam, it's
known that so for instance, he had a teaching position at a
university, then you're the email. Right? So you just do the
football, you leave the prayers, there's no you know, software
concepts or
that was there. Right.
Right. So it's your salary is going to be small, but it's
expected that you're developing yourself in other places, but also
what they ask of you. is much different. Yes. Well, I don't know
if it's a better system. Yeah. I mean, they here the way we look at
it here. There's no Islam outside the four walls of the Masjid.
Everything's got to be in the masjid. Right. Like I had a debate
with a guy one time, who was talking about the Hanafi ruling
that women should not put in the masjid. So fine. I'm totally with
you. But your concept of a message is different. Because you may be
thinking about the message of the old days in data Islam, where
there's really no need for her to go. She's got to slam everywhere.
She's got family, but we're talking about people who will not
see Islam not hear a word of Huck, a word of Talim have assured
outside the searches. What's up? Yeah, we don't have Zoa. Oh, yeah,
we don't have any of that. We people are live and have big
families. Like you could have a nuclear family here in America by
themselves. That's it. No cousins, no relatives, no grandparents just
by themselves. So the masajid have actually become these massive
community centers to the point I have. My theory is that if we were
just if I was starting from scratch, the first thing I would
make is a basketball court and a kitchenette. Right? Reason is that
the basketball court can serve as a place of prayer, right? Like we
can pray there, we could roll out a few minutes and pray there. But
then we could use that basketball court, we could use it for the
Shabaab and it could be used for half a lot. The rules everything
right. And then we can't forget there's a contingent of our
population with there are rules to massage and regarding height, so
that contingents population they need to show up, they need to
attend classes, they need to do things. So to me, the actual more
important most important thing is the most functional space, a gym a
straight up gym with a kitchenette, it can serve many
functions right? Now we will have we can build a sacred space. Like
after that the sacred space can come after that we can use that
first the sacred space that has gamsat idea to it that you know,
we don't have like half of that there that people upon Jonathan
Hyde don't enter there. Now, right now, hormone that huruma While
it's the most important thing, at the same time, it's it's the least
functional of things. It's it's the most sport in the spiritual
function, but in the practical function, it's the least. So
kitchenette closet, space gym, and a small sacred space. And the way
that we negotiated a MBSE is actually that with our intention,
the rug dear Oh, you haven't you haven't been to MBSE. But the rug
area is what we consider an Masjid. Right. And and that part
that's not rubbed or the has like the cheaper rugging that's just
like the community area. Yeah. Got triggered to someone was walking
on that. Yeah. With shoes on, right. Yeah. It was a few weeks
ago when I went there to play ball. Yeah. Let's just rock it on
the rug and
the rug.
You're young man here. All right. He'll be our fourth contestant.
Now by the way, people on YouTube and Instagram and Facebook. Bring
in your questions. Okay, let's bring in your questions that you
have for our noble guests
all right, young men speak your name. All Marwa?
Amata. Judge, Syrian, Egyptian okay. Because we have lived nanny
McGreevy, Shami Pakistani and two Egyptians. Okay. 100% Egyptian.
Oh, okay. There we go Libyan. So we really have a United Nations
gathering here. And by the way, you know that Egyptians only in
New Jersey have, like only in certain parts of Jersey have a
majority. Right. Other than that Egyptians are a minority in the
United States. New York, is filled with Egyptians, all those street
vending carts. They're all Egyptians like 95% of them. But
you can't always believe them. If they say that you have to actually
ask them. You got to ask them. Sure, you know that, but
where are you actually from? So so you're Ohio, born and raised. Born
in Detroit. I came to Sweden when I was like six, seven. So I've
been there for
Oh, wow. Though who have you? Who do we know recently was from Ohio?
Oh, no, no, no. Yeah. No one is from Cincinnati.
Columbus No, it's from Columbus, Ohio. Yeah. So the one of the
brothers who does our electronics and all that stuff, and videos and
stuff. He's from Columbus, Ohio. So Columbus, so Ohio is what kind
of life is out there as a lot of Muslims are no. I mean, Toledo is
a good community. I think there's a lot of spillover from Michigan.
Yeah.
You have a border with Michigan? Yes. I didn't realize 15 minutes
away from Michigan. Oh, I didn't know that drive up the highway up
in Michigan. No time. Okay. You feel the road difference? Well, it
was kind of rough.
And it was a big change for us to have
ability to Toledo for sure. It reignite Tila
rather than Yeah. Okay, so good. So you're from Ohio. But then what
brought you here? Why are you here? Oh, you came as a as a
traveling companion. Not sure how long that's good. That's really
good. So here are some of the spoils of war from yesterday's MC
MC GV Shala
whenever it gets some spoils of war shirt with
Where's Ryan? By the way?
He's in class. Since when does he go to class?
All right, here we go. Question Now for our guests. Alright, have
you if you can come now so we can turn the camera to
the to our guests.
Okay, sure. This might question for sure. Because my
al Hawa when neffs.
Are they the same thing?
Or are they different?
And how are we knifes?
So
I think probably shift Shadi would have a better answer. But we have
an S, which, essentially from what I remember, has been produced by
the soul that comes from that other world into contact with our
body in this world. The next is produced, it's in when I recall
Subhan Allah Subhan Allah Neff. So amount of Su, the neffs
encourages or inclines towards these types of desires. Or you can
say how, which is, I don't know how to translate how wimps they
usually wins.
So my understanding and I want she used to correct me if I'm wrong,
is that the halwa or whims is part of the neffs. The neffs inclines
towards that or encourages that.
And a trick that one of my teachers taught me
with how to deal with the neffs when it has that however, is that
it usually desire something. And it could be it could be something
haram, but you could find a substitute for it. That if you
follow that substitute, which is halal, it it says
it feels like it's reached, satisfied, it's satisfied. So for
example, this shade, he loves fast cars. And he says when his neffs
like inclines towards something that he knows would be disliked or
haram. He'll go rent like a super car and drive it and you say I'm
good for a day
I've always I've never found like the one answer fight like I've
coded first on a cold was southern knifes will help.
But and I would even venture to say that it's irrelevant.
The nature of it, but what's relevant is
what does the neffs call to and what does the HELOC call to? So
the knifes and then that then I like to this saying that the neffs
calls
to the same thing for all people. So all people have this these base
How shall wet food food anger lust
to Ali Reesa from the time of
Kaabil until the last human being is the same thing. But said hello
is always different. It never repeats itself specific to
different people specific to different people and a GL two
ends. So for example the Hello, let's say what was the how? And
the how what can be 100 Let's say the house of of people, let's say
in the 70s
If I was to have this flat hair, right, and these bell bottoms this
in the Hello, right? But that was a * of that does not repeat
today. Nobody wants that ever, never before nor after that people
want to dress in tie dyed shirts have the flat hair. And they found
that to be attractive in those days. Like you were the that was
attractive. Like we look back at that and say, like, we don't
relate to that at all. Right? And today, but today, you have the
half hair
chopped off on the side. Yeah, blue half blue piercings
everywhere. Now the helwa is some of these, however, are entering
the quarter here. And
so and then of course the * would that is martyrdom, of
course, for maybe in the past was certain drugs. But today would be
something like changing your gender. For example. It's how well
you've never had this before. Not probably very rarely in human
history. Can you find it? Similar desire that people think this is
cool. This is what you think is cool. Right? Is to alter yourself
like this. So that hella as the wind, it's probably we can say
there's never been a wind pattern identical to another wind pattern.
Like when if you could color wind, that the never to two winds that
are the same.
There must always be different, just like the zebra stripes,
right? And the snowflakes and irises. So at helwa always calls
to something like
monka something odd something is so different, right?
That's if the * was haram because Hello can be hunted. There
was a time in the OMA of Islam. One of the huller the word that
was Halal was the fez cap, the whole Ummah were the fedexcup. And
now it's like only a few people, we don't wear that anymore,
essentially, we don't wear it anymore. But that tall fez cap
with the taboos. Right was something that they liked, and the
automat wore it to flow so hello. But so that's how I think,
however, is relevant to us is that the cure for and Hawa is a
domestic *, right? All of a sudden, right? Well Allah, Allah
makes a distinction
usually,
like Edna Malhotra Minister mad cause
some tire trends, so this is a trend here.
Allah subhanaw taala things when you commit ship as in you lose
your moral apparatus, you lose unified reality. And now you're
vulnerable to any bird wishes to take you any ideology, any
anything. Exactly. But he begins by saying Hunter, I mean, I just I
met so you're falling into those monka. All of the you know, the
general sins. Yeah. But once you fall into that, now there's a
vehicle that's coming to take you into right and so then the rest of
the verse is our test, we be here ready for you? mccannon. Sahil
something worse. So now board the wind will take you wherever it
takes a wind of the time. So either it's a vehicle a movement,
right, or it's going to be something where the Hawa is going
to take you right into a specific type of, you know, sin or
addiction or whatever it may be. That's a great point. So the idea
is that how
I like the distinction that you bring them up, like the
distinction that you made, but I think that what needs to be
understood is that what is central to all of this is that we're
mobilizing our to heat with Montek. And that is the problem of
today is we have a bunch of people who are learning clida, but they
have no idea how to operationalize this knowledge. Yeah. And I
remember we were sitting with Jeff, you had brown, you know, and
he, and when he was teaching us some of this stuff. He told us,
you know, someone could go overseas for 10 years, and they
will never learn how to operational success. So I felt
like he saved us. Yeah. years of study. Yeah. In the just the way
that he taught him the way he approached by operationalizing me
live it put it in action.
To see it in things I see. And yeah, so let's ask a question
then. I think you're right about this 100% Anyone who goes off the
path of the dean and maybe everyone has someone like that in
their extended family, but we hope not like really in their family.
But have you ever seen them go into something develop something
unique?
Or they go into these they leave the path of Islam, they just join
it
In a group that's like far more predictable, and is I want to be
bold and different. But how are you bold and different? You just
joined the rest of the group, the monoculture of the of the world,
right? So that's exactly what this is talking about.
Yeah, you're gonna go somewhere. And every single person who said,
Oh, this is, you know, tradition and structure and blah, blah,
blah. And I don't I'm not conforming to this. He left this
to conform to something else to conform to some other thing that's
just based on a what?
Yeah, that's a great point that great. I maybe might jump off for
next week. Have you pretend you didn't hear it?
Okay, next question.
What is the meaning?
Of there is no contagion.
Right?
This hadith?
What is it? What is the meaning of that hadith?
Do have you come upon this?
No, what? No, I don't know. I don't
essentially,
that Allah subhanaw taala data, some people. So he's not he didn't
just create the initial cause. Right? And then each thing has its
own cause. So each thing doesn't have independent power to cause
its own effect is that Allah subhanaw taala. At every
injunction at every movement, we are always witnessing be
available. Right? So even if there is a spell to becoming sick at the
end of the day, it's the it's only the the Wrath of Allah if Allah
Allah that will cause that thing, right? So that's the basic Sakina
protection exam, not saying that it doesn't exist in the world,
because that would contradict even the Hadith itself, because the
Prophet is referring to its existence. Right? So it must be
this is almost like not much kill in SIFAT Allah, but more skill
relearn regarding the walker, right? Because when the when he's
saying, there's no contagion, well, clearly our IC contains it,
but also the prophet is referring to it. So know what he's saying.
Know what the only law two cards for code could rattle. That's like
the weight of it. So what did you have to share for them? No, no, I
think that's right. I think this is what we are taught as Muslims
that Allah's power is limitless. So
Allah azza wa jal said, He is the one through whom his power things
happen, right? And so we don't, you know, it's like, COVID we're
not afraid of a COVID because we believe COVID in and of itself has
the power to make us sick or kill us. Right. But we take the means
to protect ourselves, but that everything is in the power of
Allah azza wa jal. Yeah, it was funny that during COVID I think
people felt from other people that they're giving COVID too much
power. Right. And that's why they get antsy became anti mask. Some
people are anti mask. That's right. That's right. That's maybe
the real reason, right? Because a guy he's like, take off these
masks, you guys are obsessed. It's as if he felt that there's tar
look with the mask as but then then again, he came with a car. He
came with the seatbelt. Right. But there's no tie look to those
things. This is like some norm custom. So I think that's when the
anti the Muslims, anti mask types. I think that what they were
sensing that they didn't verbalize it well enough, was that they're
upset that people have this fear as if this thing is on its own.
And that these masks and and cures and that the government mandates
are actual saviors. Right. And then you take away their their
means of actual spiritual, yeah, overcoming this. Yeah. And you're
close now. So it's, it's even harder to cope. And it's a very,
it's a very fine line between true the true athlete of La La La
Quwata illa Billah, who will call them and we still take a step back
it's a very, very fine line between that and it takes probably
a lot of discipline and with thicker and and strength to
realize I'm doing this but I don't believe in
every material thing that exists is a an action of all right. And
so when you witness these patterns, like contagions,
essentially, you're witnessing the acts of Allah. And so when you
follow the ASVAB, you're essentially having ends up with
Allah subhanaw taala. Right. And so that's where a lot of
Do a lot of these people fall into mistake? Yes, you're right. And
that is, in fact, when we look at sort of huge set of, you know,
where Yakou bodies, right where he says, What bloomin EdWeb and moto
photocall? Yeah. And then he says, and I know that I'm not changing
anything. I'm just having entered with Allah. Allah.
That's beautiful. Yeah. So, you know, but you're right. The team
has
been difficult people take stances. Yeah, they believe it's
beautiful that if you look at science, the subject of science is
really a reflection of Allah's creation, right, the fact that we
could send a ship to the moon, and we'll know when it's gonna land
there by the minute, right, or you could send the satellite in space.
And you know, when it's going to arrive at his destination, within
one minute, right? By by the half minute, they're going to know when
it's going to arrive. So that means that shows us the amazing
the precision of the Hulk, the precision of the creation, then,
so that's not, but our belief that they have no power in themselves
frees us from the limits of this thing. Right. So the scientists
tend to be the scientists and doctors tend to be very limited,
right in in how they they do things and how they look at things
as much as knowledge I have and the ability but they also have
limits. So are off data says yes, go with what's positive of the
world of science and speb and technology. But break these
limits. Yeah, breakthrough why you see, you know, all those
scientists, you know, Golden Era
coming up with all these new discoveries.
I was gonna say something about the the mask and people having too
much confidence in that I read correct me if I'm wrong, that
should have Lucado Gilani, he would teach his students before
you take medicine, make dua to Allah, and then take the Metaponto
here, just so that you don't forget that the medicine isn't
one. But Rukia and membership, Zoom within. It was like he was
anytime someone asked him for medicine. He would say, let me
give you a booklet first. And then the person said, Oh, no, just give
me the Tylenol, right.
And you'd be like, this is the problem, right? Like, why don't
you actually believe in Rokia Rokia in our cultures. Many people
think Rokia is like you're close to Saturn. Shaohua. Right.
It's like, oh, you're one step there. You're one step away from
that. But rather Allah broke. There was differences. Okay. It's
lamps. That's it. The touching. That's the only difference, right?
So and I have people come and say, I need to, I need to call you I
need to do look. Do you know anyone who can do it? Okay. Like,
do you think this is like a wizard that we're gonna get to like a
wizard? Anybody can do it. Okay, Rokia is John, you make your own
DUA and and Rokia works to the degree. So they say, Oh, give me
those. Okay, that works. So, you give them that, okay, what works
but yet that tell them look, it's going to work because you have not
yet been that it works. I can give the same person can use the same
job, but he's doubtful. So then it's just not going to work. It's
actually the Tafseer of those people who said that the Prophet
sallallahu alayhi wa sallam asked, Why don't you? You pollinate like
this. And then they came they pollinated like that, and they
came back. And they semester Allah didn't work, right. And he said,
Adam will be dunya. But the one tafsir says, because one of those
people was from the one FFP. And he didn't believe that it's going
to work. So He soiled the men will feed them some mountain at home,
He soiled their Imen he's not going to work. It's not going to
work. It's not going to work until it didn't work. Because you when
you act upon this, I bet that you have to believe it's going to work
or action of the prophets. I said we have to believe it's going to
work so because of their doubt. That's why it didn't work. They
had Chuck so with rokeya It's not why is it that Willie Allah he
says whatever comes to his heart, he's not following a book. It's
about the team. Right in the dot. And not Yes, it is about some of
the prayers because Allah says when when on a zero minute Quran
Maha Shiva. So it is part of that.
But it's mostly it's the opinion in the DUA and Rokia to me we
should all be promoting Roca, because it creates a connection to
the unseen and breaks this connection to this BEP. Right.
Tenzin is always to its model.
Oh, that's beautiful Allah
and let me tell you something that
it's not just us and ASVAB when people go astray these days there
going astray on things also that completely negate ASVAB like all
of these worlds of crystals, and astrology is reading very popular
amongst people, and that negates all sun, all science all material
cause and effect. But people are willing to go there. Because that
world, it's just, it's lazy. It allows you to be lazy, right? It's
just like throw a dart put a rock, there's no actual work to go into
it. Right?
And that's the difference between the Schmidtke spirituality until
he till he requires work you want and Newzoo from Allah on your
heart type stop looking at *. No shit, whoever tell
you to stop, stop, you're hella stop, you shall watch. And that's
a big difference. So it's a manga. Gentlemen, let us stop here
inshallah. Thank you all for participating and listening. And I
got we had a lot of your questions, but tomorrow we'll do
the general questions. But this was a really great, we're lucky to
have these unfortunate hamdulillah to have these noble guests and
hopefully not for the last last time and we really have to thank
shiksa for on demand stuff. One, he's the one who brought him here.
He brought all these guests and shorter become more. And also, if
you're ever off to, we have to create the double setup here. If
you ever often come and hang out with jolla on the live stream and
I think a lot of people have questions and they stay asked
where is Imams of one's social media account? So I don't know if
you are you are as mentioned GP or as yourself know as myself I don't
post Okay
thanks. If you want to follow me feel free but I'm just telling you
now I don't okay. But you're a lot of even you both have instant
face. Yeah. As a call the Arabs call.
All right, just come along here and everyone Subhanak Allah who
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