Shadee Elmasry – Judaism vs Zionism Rabbi Yisroel Dovid NBF 289
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today. What are we talking about calamities of the End Times? The
first calamity that even kids he mentions, I believe this is so
important. It's so wise that he mentioned this first Iraq al oma
in Oman omen.
And this I have to say I always worry almost about converts when
they come into Islam, because they're going to come upon this
calamity first and this calamity refers to the division in the in
the OMA of Islam. Okay, the division in the OMA that you're
going to get in there into this Oma. But you're going to find so
many different groups, and you fear for the confusion. All right.
Have
you fear for the conclusion? Sorry, sorry, the confusion that
someone would fall into. So the first hadith is from Evan magia.
Now, as we read these Hadith, you're gonna see the solution to
this is why it's very important to study this, because you're going
to see a solution.
How many you know what you could tell him you could tell him?
We can do? You can hop on anytime till 2pm. And if not Monday,
Monday,
and Ebihara era kala kala Rasulullah sallallahu alayhi wa
sallam to for Raka. Talia who do Allah Allah Subhan in Africa words
of a rapid Almighty Allah Salah and wasabi in Africa,
the Jews divided into 71 different sects, the
the Christians into 72, and the Muslims into 73. Now, some people
have a very unique interpretation of this, which I don't think is,
is the truth, but it's an interesting interpretation. They
say that
it'd be it's because the Muslims read more and think more about
their religion. And as a result, they have more different groups.
And that the Philipa here, it's not necessarily all bad. Now,
other words, it's different opinions, different methodologies,
different parties, like activist groups, Tao groups, etc. So that's
one possible. The second one.
The second portion of the interpretation is is is okay, that
it does make sense that idea that there are these groups, but not
all of them, it doesn't all
imply that they're straight. Okay, that it could be fit up all of
within at Asana. In other words, this group
focuses on Tao another group is a Federica that focuses on another
issue, okay. So on and so forth. That's another interpretation. The
third is most sensible is that although the of Islam will divide
up into many groups,
the misguided sects will always be a small minority, some of them so
insignificant as having even died out.
Now, one or two followers,
or lasting one or two centuries, then dying out will be so
insignificant. Okay.
All right.
Someone who will be outside of Islam altogether, because there's
a difference between the Prophet saying, as he mentions, the
prophecy about people who will believe in another prophet say
Kunal Fie, omit multi gut. There will be people in my OMA who claim
that there's a profit after me at
I will enter via body in truth there is no prophet after me. So
he says about them that they are in the Ummah they are not of the
OMA. But they're in it in the sense that they call themselves
Muslim.
You can call, I could call myself an NBA player All I Want It
doesn't make a difference what I say, what matters is my reality.
Okay? So they are in the OMA but they're not of them. So some of
these groups are completely outside of Islam like Hadith
deniers got people who believe in a prophet after, after the
messenger and other cool free groups like different modernist
groups who don't believe in miracles or don't believe in the
return of Prophet Isa, things like that. All right, they are in the
OMA but they're not of them. And that the group that is on the
truth, the one sect or group that is on the truth is, like 85%,
market share, they got 85% of the OMA. And as a result of that that
group is
most of the Muslims are upon the truth, and the truth is clear.
Right. So that is another possibility. And that's, I
believe, the best of interpretations of that, because
that's also what we see, in reality, when someone enters
Islam. The first thought is not that he joined some weird sect,
the first thought he's just entered general, it's not, as we
know it to be, pray five times a day, first month of Ramadan, give
charities 2.5% of your savings that you've had for over a year,
right after a certain threshold. That's it, right, like the basics.
So that's usually what comes to mind. So that interpretation is
best. Now. Why do we have to talk about this? Because sometimes,
even within a listener, there's confusion, and that confusion can
have a very bad blowback on a person within an Asana.
The general sunnah, which is basically Muslims, who are
accepting all explicit texts of Quran and Hadith. They're
accepting all of it. But their interpretation of it maybe, right?
Maybe wrong, maybe somewhere in between.
What do I mean by in between in between means different upon? It's
not very clear, what is the correct interpretation? Because
there's different opinions. In that case, we'd say if it's a
valid opinions valid, but we just don't know which one is the most
correct. Cut. Just like the Hadith I just mentioned.
There are different interpretations of the Hadith.
There's not specifically just one interpretation. So on some
matters, they're coming to be great on some work, by the way to
have a surprise guests at 2pm. Okay.
It's somebody none of you know, I guarantee you.
Okay.
So some interpretations are clearly wrong. But they're, but
they're they did, they don't remove a person outside the
Sunnah. They're just wrong. We don't say that they're, they're an
innovator. Okay? He's he didn't reject an explicit verse just
interpreted incorrectly. All right. And so some there's a
correct interpretation, there could be something in the middle
where it's the only difference on it. All right. So when a poster
person comes upon that it could cause a confusion. So the Prophet
sallallahu alayhi wa sallam gives us guidance we're reading from
Inca theatres today, when you hear you hear one of the best
compilations on End Times calamities.
And the Sahaba This is another Hadith from western Iraq al Hakim
lemma Selu, Annelle Federica. When the Sahaba asked the Prophet on
these, this bad news of all these divisions in the OMA of Islam, so
they asked, Who is the saved group, who is on the truth at that
time, so there's so many different parties, so many different groups.
I'm new in Islam. I don't know what to do.
He said, They said men whom who are they call a murderer and i Li
Li OMA was hobby, what I am upon today, alongside with my
companions, therefore, how do we learn this religion? What is what
the important lesson here is that we learn this religion because the
first generation transmitted it properly? That theory that thesis
is so important, and that's where she has is a great undermining of
the religion itself, because they're telling you you can't
trust the first generation of Muslims if I cannot trust the
prophets, very own disciples, companions, students.
Great successors that who can we trust?
If they don't can't tell us what the religion is who will? So the
the premise here or the the conclusion here is that the first
generation of Muslims were all sound
upright testifiers witnesses and transmitters
that is so important because they will go to live on longer after
the Prophet and clarify many things and spend time teaching,
and they will face many situations
that the Prophet salallahu alayhi salam didn't face and would have
never faced, like what? Like innovation in religion. There
can't be innovation and religion in the time of the Prophet peace
be upon. Because we just asked the Prophet and Eve give us the final
word in the time of Othman, have now found that odd yellow Tala,
definitely in the time of say, naughty, there were groups of
people who came about born after the prophet that caused a lot of
problems and confusion in religion, and you have sects
developed, were these sects Believe it or not, would say about
Satan, Ali would say about the Companions, they don't know what
they're doing. They're wrong. Okay. And they will lure people
into that belief. So the first sect it was born in the time of
the seeds existed in the time of the Prophet peace be upon him.
It came out in the time of Othman and it really,
or it came out hard. In the time of Satan Isley, we learn how to
deal with sects from them. We learned so much about how to
manage a nation how to govern.
Get, how to handle tribulations, for example, how to handle natural
disasters, there was a great drought. One of the most important
things that ever happened at the time of Satan Ahmad. There was a
great drought he issued a fatwa saying we will not cut established
the dude punishments. Because people's minds are not right. When
you're starving, you're dying. And if a woman was to, maybe like
dead, say, do Zina because her baby's dying. So say no one is
saying, How am I going to judge this woman? Okay, when when sure
babies dying, say Norma is saying that how am I going to judge a man
who may have 10 kids? And he went and he stole
so he read into the ruling of Allah a precondition that was not
spoken. That's what a Mufti does. He reads into the law
preconditions, okay, and that's what he did. So he suspended the
corporal, corporal punishments at that that's an example of
effectual given by the companions. So it's so important that a new
Muslim gets well acquainted with the lives of the companions
because they are an explanation of the prophets of Allah what He was
sending them. The prophets life is an explanation of the Quran. So
you have layers upon layers of explanation of this religion that
makes you reach the conclusion that it is crystal clear, Laila
can hurry her. It's night as like it's day. Meaning in the times of
the greatest confusion, it's pretty easy to figure out what the
essence of this religion is. Okay.
There are a lot of people who are lying these days a lot of liars
and sometimes they just maybe make genuine mistakes right so I told a
new Muslim out there there's a new Muslim on on Twitter His name is
shepherd of the truth.
Right he wears a cowboy hat and he entered Islam Good for him. I
sometimes see his threads and I respond to people there's some
people said whoa, hold up you with your believing that the Quran is
preserved when both men have not found the Hadith man. He gathered
seven different versions of the Quran wow look at
the hodgepodge confusion that this person you know was talking about
truth of the matter said now with men gathered one
must have in the spelling of Quraysh okay
one
but because there were no diet criticals and vowels, some of the
accents the dialects
okay still had room to be recited. Okay, and then he said here's an
example of two dialects that have the polar opposite meaning and he
cited students in Bukhara in which it says cut them Allahu Allah
coulby him Wallace ma him while I'm sorry him
Hold on a second Hold on It's better for me right quick here the
the exact area that he cited so I don't make a mistake. Here.
feel cool to be a Mara Frazetta home Allahu medulla. Well, y
Lahoma that one lamb McCann we actually won't they have a great
punishment because of how much they lied.
Because what they used to lie about
He then says no, the next wash recites
wala Hamada one le mambi Makino you can't they won't
okay, and you and this means that they were lied to
So now tell me how does that make any sense that Allah is gonna say
you're punished because you were lied to? So you got it wrong. The
wife says be mad Can you Kev the bone you can the bone. They're
gonna have a grave punishment for denying
denying the profits denying the truth all that's the same as like
it's all under the banner of like. So here you have a brand new
Muslim comes in
to Islam and people on Twitter are just causing confusion. It is
wedge of up on anyone of knowledge to start inserting yourself.
Insert yourself. Imam Al had dad said Oh, scholars guy said Stop
sitting around, go to the street go go to the public places go to
the mosque courtyards go and advise the people make yourself
available. sit on chairs in the courtyards of the mosque. That's
what it used to be like a scarf, the mass the masajid
massager will be like
an area a small area that is shaded. Then a big area. Sometimes
this area had trees. It was a courtyard of the mosque. Okay,
maybe some umbrellas. But overall it was open air.
And then you had the street and then usually you had the
marketplace. So the masjid was right in the middle of where
everyone does their hustle and bustle of life.
The scholars would then have get a nice big Maharaja style chair
and a pillow and he'd sit on the chair and he talk all day. Like
we're live streaming today. That was a time a moment had dad said
when the OMA was upon righteousness. The scholars would
make themselves available they go and they talk a person would pop
in see the shift. Oh yeah forgot to ask him how do I do Traveler's
Prayer. Oh, I forgot to ask him. This a or that I that I was
confused about oh, I forgot to ask him this, I need to ask him to any
go in any talk.
A lot of times, they would sit between Muslim and Asia with some
lights. And they would have their their seat in the shaded area or
right outside the shaded area between McGraw Venetia, and sit
all the whole time to three hours every single day. And some masajid
were so big, that they would have multiple chairs. And they would
just have at one pillar as a shake another pillar ship and each was
giving either specific lessons classes or general talk to the
general public. And the way of the only used to be that the specific
classes that sort of like your training scholars happen in
separate buildings. And in the mosque would be the general public
preaching which is wild, wild general talk, not classes. Okay,
so I had to answer this guy. I said,
Whoever you are, you can the Boone is not you can then when one has a
customer and one has a Fatah. If it has effect, it means they were
lied to. If it has a customer, they lied, and they denied others,
they denied profits, they denied the truth which is lying. So don't
come and confuse a brand new Muslim that the hundreds of other
Akira adds to the dialects are saying polar opposite things.
And even in situations where it could, for example, refer to a
female or a male they would it would just mean that it's going
back to different pronouns That's it right? That's all it is. Going
back to a different pronoun
the pronouns going back to a different the verbs going back to
a different noun in the sentence
you have been sued it's LTM okay
so there's a lot of a medical click just sent me a video that's
going around a lot of us what does it say? Oh Christians be careful
inside the Kava is bad the ancient cow God, are you serious? Are you
serious? No.
But we may laugh it off, you may think but there is going to be a
person who never opens their heart to Islam again, because of that.
And is that person any less worthy of our time than our own selves?
In the sight of Allah is that not a soul that Allah commanded us to
try to get? Give them guidance? We don't convert anyone, but we give
guidance.
Explain the truth.
Good. KENNETH Leachman. You should I believe if you have knowledge
you
If you have knowledge if you're able to benefit people and it
doesn't have to be specialized knowledge, even knowledge of the
bare necessities of religion is oftentimes sufficient.
Given the stuff that Christians are saying about Muslims and the
Christians are on full there's
an fest you heard an emphasis and fest is essentially the
conservative the new generation of conservatives. They all of them
hate Islam. They hate Islam so much every single one of them.
Okay, it's happening in Phoenix, Arizona this year.
It's like the top 30 Patrick, but David is on the headline, right?
That top 30 conservatives in the country
and in Europe, okay. These are the top Islam haters in the world,
them and their minions they have followers that have millions upon
millions of followers spreading all sorts of nonsense
all sorts of lies, all sorts of falsehoods about Islam. And some
of them they go and research and they try to find you know,
things that would would drive a must a Christian away, okay.
The Prophet sallallahu alayhi wa sallam said well let enough CBD
go by the one in whose soul is my hands.
Letter carbon Sena man cannot Kubla Khan Muslim Demuth. You will
follow the path of those before you.
So
Christians, they had the big split, you will have splits.
Jews you have Reformed Judaism, we have progressive Muslims. By the
way progressive Muslim, don't worry about them, they always die
out. They come they cause trouble for 567 years, they die out Where
did they go? someone the other day made a list of all the
progressives and I remember every single one of them was a we
consider him like a major threat to the OMA or to the English
speaking Muslim community. All of them are gone. None of them not
one of them
has any influence anymore. They're complete zeros right now. Allah
washes them away for the sake of them. But when does he wash them,
boy, when that OMA is worthy, that only here meaning that small
community is worthy of being helped, okay?
When we fight back, you may not be able to defeat them, but fight
back. And then Allah takes care of the rest, you know who Allah took
care of the perennial lists.
You know, there's a generation they don't even know who they are
anymore. The perennial is out of Washington, DC used to be a big
threat.
They had a lot of clout in the university world, and they wrote a
lot of nice books. And they started to seep into
Islamic conferences. And their ideas were that people were
calling them schewe and stuff, when his their data is cool for
direct
salvation can occur through the mystical paths of
you know, certain Christian saints and even Hindus.
Right? They love Christians and Hindus, they don't like Jews,
because the Jews don't want anything to do with them to choose
no better.
But the perennial list they had they had their their their top
figures. And they were it wasn't like a group. The philosophy was
called the perennial, the perennial philosophy, but they had
their little cult, and they used to have had that was right. And
there's I've had those Yeah. And they used to have a second bat, a
layer of young leaders. Okay. Yeah, I'm not gonna mention names.
I don't know who made Toba, who did it. But they had, they're all
based around Washington, DC, and different universities.
Well, they came out and they really got into the mainstream of
the community with their book
right there, come and said
they, they got into the mainstream the community and they were fought
back. Nobody could stop them. It's a free country. You can't stop
them unless you maybe do some
extra legal techniques, like hiring influencers.
Also known as sometimes as bouncers, okay, oh here serum,
hire some bouncers and intimidate people. That's not really our way.
I personally don't mind that way to be honest with you. I don't
mind it, but it's not our way. It's not something that we do. You
hire in. Like, I once had an apartment and the guys wouldn't
open up so that we could sell the apartment and show buyers so
you're delaying the sale of the apartment.
I hired a bouncer from a club right here in New Brunswick,
right? I hired the guy. I sent him 50 bucks.
And I said, just don't break the law. I'm not in the mood for a
lawsuit. Right?
And he said, No, no, I've been an influencer for 25 years. I said,
what an influencer. That's what he calls himself. I influence people
to change their behavior. Okay. He goes in, breaks a couple things,
puts punches a hole in the wall, something like that scares the
lights out of people. That's the fast route of doing things. Like
we don't do that stuff. Right? Sometimes I feel like why don't we
just do that and get it over with, right. But anyway, we can't stop
them their talk, they talk as much as they want. We couldn't stop
them. All we could do is post about it and try to talk to people
that this is
it's, it's not Islam. Well, guess what happened? We didn't stop
them. But I believe ALLAH found our little community worthy of
help. They had such a nasty and miserable crisis. I'm not going to
give you the details, but they blew up internally. And many,
many, I heard all of the lieutenants all the lieutenants
all the second gen. Lieutenants, the young guys in their 40s. They
all left the older leadership's and the big leader in at the top,
they all left him. They had a huge crisis and a scandal within
some of them may Toba and just became regular Sunni Muslims after
that.
And others, I don't know their their belief in their position,
they may have stayed on the perennial philosophy, but they
broke up as a group, this group came in. They were misguiding
people, some Muslims fought back, then Allah found us, I hope worthy
of being helped, and he broke it up. We could have never done that.
We could have never broken that group up. fact probably when we
fought them they got stronger because like, they're now being
talked about, they're being fought. But Allah clarifies the
truth if the people are fighting for it, and that's the key. So you
will follow the path of those who came before you but if the Muslims
artists are, would fight for their faith and fight for their belief
that Allah helps them and breaks up these groups in ways that we
could never do.
And this is where he says in omega t this is Hadith from Anna Sivan
medic in Umatilla Jami. Oh,
Allah Bala Letson.
So, guys, we're on the first fitna of activism and is the breakup of
the OMA into little groups, and how to handle it. Firstly, the
interpretation of that which we covered. And now how does a person
handle this? That's actually the first fitna of Africanism. And if
you think about it, as soon as you walk into Islam, you walk into
like a warzone sometimes. And if you go on Twitter, if Twitter is
the only place that you're learning Islam, I feel sorry for
you. It's literally a warzone. I love what Paul Williams said. He
said that most of communication is nonverbal, right? Like you can get
good vibes from somebody with no words spoken. But Twitter it's not
only non verb, not just purely verbal. It's not even verbal. It's
just typed. Do you ever get a text from someone who doesn't speak
English? It sounds very rude sometimes. Right?
They just don't know English that well. Okay. And no Mattila just
tell me what I bought out of my OMA will never come to all agree
upon a misguidance what's the misguidance the region
they will never come to agree upon. Why because it's explicit is
very clear what it means for you the item will lift the lever
finally can be swaddled up, that's in theology and law but dolla is
also oppression in the world.
Okay, oppression in the world such as
an oppressive policy and oppressive war, things like that a
rebellion that's oppressive all those things okay. So
further it will still Alpha fairly compensated at all them once you
see it's enough once you see argumentation, leave the
argumentation
and go into what is accepted by everybody. Okay, and we saw some
of that sentiment yesterday yesterday, where if you want to
last long in this OMA you can have positions and opinions on Matata
fi missa. But that should not be really the bulk of your your
worldview. That should not be the central part of your worldview.
And it should not be the screen. The litmus test of who you hang
out with and the Brotherhood of the OMA should not be okay. There
there are things that are more than a fee you should you should
not be so emotionally attached to that which is different upon you
You should be emotionally attached with that which is absolutely
crystal clear as part of our religion and Whoever agrees with
that. That's what we that's our brotherhood right there.
And then the Brotherhood will have degrees like 870 5% on all that we
agree upon that every Muslim then the most out of Fi clear leave to
have your share opinions you're going to have more in common.
Okay? So that's extremely important esoa did allow them the
black mass, the so many people it just looks like a black mess like
when you look at a march from from a aerial view or you just see is
black right? Meaning the shadows and the amount of people
all right, some say this hadith is the wife because more iron dibny
Refer a salami, cut the AVO
via hidden minute, here's here's another one, I shared a sign of
the prophet peace be upon him a prophecy of the messenger peace.
Have you been to a new Muslim? Someone who's trying to you know
doesn't like that he became Muslim said be careful, Muslims have a
lot of fabricated Hadith. Like where did you even get that term
from? That term came from the Muslims because they themselves
are the biggest referees for fabricated edits, right?
No one says Oh, be careful, the Bible has fabricated verses right?
Because you guys don't have that concept.
You don't have that concept of monitoring. Oh, this is a
fabricated story from Jesus. They have no concept of that at all.
And if they did, which the academics do it applies very
badly. The whole thing is fabricated.
The whole book has been altered.
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for cannula you Jeju fie him looked at your own level acquiree
wala fall within outside and what's a karate for cardio Jamia?
Will jam will have a fiero Allah be Dotson, okay? So when we say
that the OMA will never gather eponymous guidance, you can retort
and say How about Iran, the whole country is upon a misguidance. So
we were saying the OMA Iran is not the whole Ummah, you have to zoom
out and look at the entire Oma. That's number one. And number two,
you have to zoom out in history. Okay, in history, you have to
account for all the scholarly opinions throughout history to
that's why knowledge is so important. So we can go back into
the books of history. And we can start seeing Hold on, it seems
generation after generation, all the scholars were of this
interpretation of something. That's probably what was the
truth, right? So it's extremely important to recognize that.
All right. That's why it's important to learn how to read and
that's why it's important
to hit the books.
You got to have books and you have to you got to be opening these
books all the time. It keeps you sharp, and it keeps you connected
with your historical OMA not just
today, like for example, Christian Zionism.
Christian Zionism is something that could not have never, would
have never lasted if the Christians of that time. Okay. If
the Christians of that time
measured their theologians by the past,
we measure our theologians by the past. If a theologian comes to
say, hey, guess what, guys? evolutions actually okay? I
discovered I worked it out. He got laughed at right because you're
not going to change the the essentials like that. We're going
to go back and we're going to see if anybody ever said this is why
the moderate is they make a big fuss for about five years, and
then everyone realizes that they're there like or that they
have there's no support and there's no proof
Okay, so he was saying in the early times, it was very rare to
find an innovator in the later times you could find plenty of
innovators and you find big groups of innovators. So the issue is
that they're not the only zoom out for the whole Ummah and zoom out
through history. Okay, now what happens here's the next piece of
advice
as man he says your camera Qaddafi Hadith he heard Eva for elemi
Aquila home Imam one Villa Gemma how they for then says Oh master
of Allah you commend us in times of confusion follow the Khalifa
follow the king follow the Sultan
On follow the Imams all same, same meaning follow the leader of your
country of your area.
Well, they first says What if they don't have an imam?
He the prophesy says Then follow the GEMA like we're a people that
don't have don't have an imam. Is there one official imam of the
Muslims of New Jersey? Or of America? No. So we just follow the
Jamal. All right, but some in some cases probably the go back to
1980. There was no Jamal here, right? He couldn't say that
there's a mainstream group. Right so he put Eva says Finlandia Khan
Lahoma Imam when we're Elijah mountain What if there's no Imam
and there's no Jamal Jamal means a group, the mass group, the
mainstream group
called Allah Who fat as il till CalHFA raka Kula.
Leave off all these groups. If you go to a country, and there's a
civil war in the country. And the Muslims are all divvied up. Some
are on this side. Some are on that side, you see good shoe on one
side, good shoe of another side, and you're totally confused. And
you can't even hang out with them. Because the fitna is so raging. So
this so fiercely, that if you were to go and let's say oh, let me go
spend the night with this, this mosque with those people. All they
talk about as a fitna and they want to check your opinion. They
won't let you sit with them unless you're with them on the Civil War.
Right? Then you're sorry, let me go to another masjid and they do
the same thing so they won't leave you without taking a position and
you don't know genuinely what is the truth and what is false.
At that time the prophets of Allah when he was sent him for that
example, in that situation, fat as Ill till kill firaga Kula, leave
off all those groups.
Okay.
Leave off all those groups had
a good Willow enter our Bobby ously Shudra. Even if you have to
bite down on the roots of a tree. Why would you have to do that?
Because I'm so tempted to go out there and be part of this.
Okay, I'm so tempted.
He says bite down on the root of a tree, so that you don't get
tempted to be part of this fitna. Okay, how you did it get Cal moto?
We're Antara vernick until you die upon that.
Remember, sometimes we ask ourselves, where are we going?
A lot of times our direction in life is to find the right track
the right path
and sticks down until you die. That's your job. If you're someone
who studies knowledge, who does Dicker and strives to avoid sins,
and you do a little bit of doubt in your life. And you help out in
your community and your family you raise your kids and your family
stick your general life purpose is to stick on stick upon that until
you die.
Right?
Stay on that till you die.
And when one of your companions dies upon that that's great
success.
Don't they go to Jana on
what's up abdomen Hadith to Soho Budhha al Islam or even say oh,
don't worry, but camera but how do we reconcile that the prophets I
said them saying that the GEMA will never be upon a misguidance
and the Prophets saying Islam began as a strange thing. And we
returned to be strange, because in small contexts in small
situations, Islam may be strange. Namely,
ie how many young people have made Toba they go home and they're
mocked or made fun of their left. Like yesterday I had a person say
to me, they all they started doing is saying Insha Allah, they can
make fun of for that in their homes.
All right, our guest is here.
Okay, this moolah, let's do it.
Ladies and gentlemen, we have a guest that we've been trying to
have on for a while and we're happy to have on. And you all know
that I've been basically
back to comparative religion days and have been trying to get to the
root of the difference between Judaism and Zionism and trying to
see why is it and how is it that these Zionists to not religious
people? They're atheists, right. And yet some of the most religious
of
Jewish leaders and communities have none to do with racism. And
we've been
lucky to have a someone reached out to someone willing to talk to
us about this. Okay.
Rabbi Israel David
Weiss is our guests right now. He's from the natira carta
it's like a I guess we're gonna we're gonna find out we're gonna
ask him I guess it's like a group I think they're sometimes operate
like today plus in our world today because I have one major rabbi,
and then he's the leader. We're gonna find out right now. All
right. Welcome to the Safina Society Program, Rabbi Israel.
David, welcome to the program. How are you today? Thank you for
joining us, thank you.
I pray to the Almighty to bestow upon me as truth as wisdom that I
may be worthy of conveying his message. And so sanctify his name
and bring peace to the world. And Sharla to thank you very much
appreciate that. Firstly, can you help us understand? In the Hasidic
world, do they all all Hasidic groups operate that they have one
main rabbi, that is their leader, and then they have maybe the next
generation of leaders is that how acidic groups operate? Well, with
the help of the Almighty
see them. See this started
around 300 years ago, or so. And it was a great rabbi, a very holy
man who's who had a certain style of
uniqueness in his worshipping of the Almighty. That said, I mean,
we all have the same Torah the same,
you know, the covenant that we made with the Almighty 3000 years
ago, and but there are certain times a certain rabbis have their
points or issues in Judaism that they stress with, sort of, in a
manner more than maybe others, the Baal Shem Tov was very, was well
known for,
as his spirituality, people like to sort of explain it as they was
deep and song and issues of song and melody, whatever. But we don't
look at it like that at all. I mean, it's just the writers write
these things. And it's really, it's a very spiritual, it's a very
deep spiritual style, which is hard because spirituality isn't
tangible. So it's hard to really even if we, if we do understand,
which we don't feel that we really comprehend entirely, the depth, it
was just it was a metaphysical spiritual issues that he had and
he had a lot of students, very great holy people, scholars, very
great scholars, and then sort of like you said, they will the
students had their body of students each one individually.
And so, today, you will have different groups of Hasidism, that
go on to certain excuse me, certain titled certain names,
following certain rabbis, some of them come from the majority may be
coming from a dynasty of rabbis that went back to the either for
the students or students of students of the this pow Shem Tov,
see them all of them, eventually go back to that root of the rabbis
row, Baal Shem, Tov, Baal Shem, Tov means, the owner of the good
name change the name totally the name, because his service was the
spirituality
was given that maybe because of the holiness, the spirituality,
good name, or the connection with the Almighty, the good name,
whatever it was, the fall, as they call her, see them consider means
actually means the person that of righteousness, there is is going
to do the doing the laws of the Torah and then cause it means that
he doesn't above and beyond he does more than is required. That's
what the word hostid means actually. So he does he does more
than that, like above the necessities. And so this group was
called a see them there are many people see them today in the
United States, different groups.
As a general rule you will find in the world the Hasidim are not
Zionists, they are and they're more outspoken a lot of times
about their connection to the Almighty and their religion.
They're more than that dress, the more you can see their, their
religiosity, their the fact that they're serving the almighty the
majesty of dressed in the as far as the women go, and as far as the
men go, they wear a certain garb who they will a lot of them have,
like I have called payas era blocks and beards and certain garb
and, and a lot of them would be very outspoken against Zionism. So
and that we may be able to with God's help, I'll explain just the
difference a little between Judaism and Zionism, that it
should be understood
that
Now, are the different groups, or can they be termed just groups? Or
orders? Are they how what's the best way to turn them to just
discuss them as groups? Or what was the second? orders? Orders?
Now?
It would be maybe, I believe groups, so I wouldn't be I think,
fitting well, but it's, I won't say that it was a certainty. It's
it's just, it's a,
there's very, there's certain usually, like certain customs
certain
traditions, they're following differently one from the other
certain, but almost, it's very, very similar. Most of them are
very, very similar. But like, yeah, there's no one's
differences. And some of them have a little more of differences and
garb, whatever I mean, for the outside, you wouldn't even notice
maybe some some that you would recognize the difference in, in
dress or something. But as a general rule, the fact it would be
that women dress more modestly, the men dressed in a certain
distinctive garb, like long coats and beards and pay us that you
will find as a general almost entirely across the spectrum of
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in your comments and questions which we may take one or two
questions at the end. Now. Can you tell us a bit about the origin,
the name of your group, the matura carta if I'm pronouncing it
correctly, right. It doesn't sound Hebrew it sounds Japanese or
something so very right. Aramaic, Aramaic, okay. And the Touray
means protectors character of the city. And the name was actually
given in the 30s. Because
there it came originally from the Talmud, which is the oral law that
was given to Moses, Moses, Mouser. Bynum, Moses, when he went out on
Mount Sinai, where we made this covenant 3000 years ago, he was
given the torah, the Five Books of Moses, and there are 613
commandments, and many of them are written very concise, says you
have to
you have to eat
meat and dairy, also, I think, but it's, but it's it's very, it's
mentioned three times in the Torah that, and it's very, very short,
it's very concise, very seriously written. And so in order to be
able to explain all the laws that are,
that have a bound the Jews bound book to in regard to each
individual, a commandment is many, many branch many different things.
So they had that was explained orally to Moshe, Moses, the these
all these laws, the Sabbath is what with that when God created
the world, six days, the seventh day he rested. So we have the
Sabbath. Now the Sabbath is just not 39 laws of prohibitions that
we're not allowed to do. And these are all derived and everything,
the Talmud explains how each one individually how it comes. So we,
if without the Oral Law, we cannot practice the Torah can't be a
practicing Jew without the oral law, and that was given to Moses
orally and was passed down through to his students, which is the
Talmud. Yeah.
That's basic.
That's the one of Judaism. So in the Talmud is it's like a massive,
it's many volumes, where it's speaking, it's compiling the all
the different explanations of all the laws, and also a lot of the
work explaining the prophecies from the prophets that followed
after Moshe Rabbeinu, Jeremiah, Ezekiel, Isaiah No, to explain it,
because a lot of the prophecies were written in metaphors, and
would have to be explained
and, and also a lot of rebuke and
teachings to the Jewish people are in the top. So one of the many
things that I mentioned at the top of this that a rabbi sent to his
mentioned, said to his students, that they were traveling to
another city, he said, When you come back from that traveling,
please tell me who are the Touray character, the protectors of the
city that you're going? So they came back and they said, you know,
there's soldiers, there's the whatever police and so he said,
No, that's not what I meant. These hills. I want to know who were the
scholars and the learned men, the scholars, the holy men, because
they are the protectors They are going to to record to protect us
of the city, so that when Zionism came along and
and add itself down on the city have to
rules of thumb and came in
into the holy land. So the Rabbi's, they were living a
community of Jews were living there, nice, sizable community,
they were the minority Mind you, the majority were Muslims and the
second largest community with the Christians. And then there was a
Jewish community where, when the which was also quite large, but it
was the minority community. And they these were all almost
entirely God fearing people, they were the elite of Jewish society
around the world, because, as a general rule, throughout the
hundreds of years, it would be rabbis retired, who would go there
to live off the days in holiness, nobody went there for business
use.
So it was, it came, it developed into the most beloved Society of
holy people. And
the Jews living there were Jews practicing the religion, to the
utmost degree, and
the world considered the Jewish world. In fact, I said, charity,
to keep these people supportive because mostly we're sitting a
learning they were not actively in business, and as a general rule,
and so this is it. Then when zydus came along, which was a group, as
I will explain, with God's help, have a basic knowledge base
nationalist group, a group that we're aspiring to create a state
and had nothing to do with religion, when these guys came
along. So the community that was residing there for these hundreds
of years, were in total opposition to this and they, and they they
spoke out and they they used to put in those days, but they would
do is they would put a paste on the walls of the city different
decrees and statements of the rabbi's. So one of the statements
they put up in their fight against this movement of Zionism was a
statement of the Talmud, a verse of the Talmud that says this was
an enduring character.
Excuse me, sir, that name stuck to the bones were very vocal against
lines in the 1930s. So really, there was a lot of people
demonstrating the people stood up and oppose Zionism, maybe it was
already. Nike 30 talking about 50 years maybe since iron has really
started trickling into the Holy Land, the Zionist movement, and
the people who oppose them, but they will get had different names.
It wasn't, didn't have to necessarily be organizations. It
was simply the community because they were religious Jews, they
oppose this movement of Zionism, but then it became a certain group
that was very vocal was the actually the leading governing
body of the Jewish community that were living there it was called a
the horrendous and it is so cold so today, a look at the courageous
means a the means the community. Hurray. This means God fearing the
eight the courageous Godfrey community are good and to Ricard,
that had to be actually divisions in it, a the courageous are good,
good together and the Touray Carta, and, and so this was the
ones that took up the very vocal position of strong position
against the Zionist movement. And they were strongly they try to, as
I will explain, they try to plead with the British when the British
Mandate This was after the First World War, it was on the British
Mandate, they try to breed with the Britons that they should not
be affected by the Zionist because unbelievably, the Britain came
along. And they were the backers of the sinus movement, and some of
them are from Britain. Hi, I'm Weitzman, the first President of
Israel came from Britain, he was the one who was pivotal and having
Britain support the concept of making a so called Jewish state.
And, and so the Britain the British ordered that every Jew has
to register under the Zionists when they came. So this community
that will live in their hundreds of years of 1000s of years
actually goes 2000 years, the structure the tempo, just live
there comes as individuals. And all of a sudden these this group,
the Britain have decided that these interlocutors this group of
nationalist heretics because they were not religious, and they that
they have should have the control of the Jewish community. And
people should have to register under that and the Jewish
community fought against that and they were successful and freeing
themselves of having to be registered on the device. But let
me just go back a step. Really, because let me just explain what
this design is. I'm talking Zionism Judaism, what we're
talking about here. So with God's help, Judaism is a religion of
3000 years. It is Moses. Moshe then went on on Mount Sinai and
God gave
Given the Torah, the Almighty gave the Torah and he took it down to
the Jewish people, all the Jews were gathered around there, which
means 600,000 men from the age of 20, to 60, and the females and the
children and the L and the elders over them, but the ones that were
counted were from the age of 20, to 60. Men, so you're talking
about over a million people, almost probably, we're talking
here.
And these people stood there and saw how God gave most of the
towards that I am your God. And, and we accept it to work to be
subservient to the Almighty and accept the bid to the laws of the
Torah to be that will be that will be our laws from the Almighty. So
that is the covenant that we made with God. And we're not allowed to
stray from that in any manner, shape, or form. So for for 3000
years, we are strictly adhering to these laws of the Torah. That
means that when they did changes in the world, whatever happens, or
new things come inventions, for instance, electricity. So
electricity, what about on the Sabbath says in the Torah, you're
not allowed to make a fire on the Sabbath? So I start thinking about
what you know, and
delving into the issue is electricity fire is considered
something that we'll have to understand that and of course, the
decision was that we're not allowed to use open electric
ourselves. We weren't like understaffed, we have to open the
lights prior to the Sabbath. And, and that's what we have lights on
the Sabbath. But we're not allowed to do so we we our lives is
totally
ruled by the laws of the Torah. And when we and as the changing
and time, which we are here, we try to see that we should adhere
to the rules of the Torah, even in the changing of toxins, no matter
what happens. Zionism is a movement of 150 years or so. It's
a political movement was a movement of Jews who are estranged
of the Torah. And just to give you a little more to understand,
before Zionism came, it was like 253 years ago, that was the
movement called reform, Judaism, reform, which is the majority
unfortunately, today, Jews are non religious, they're not Orthodox,
but they call they do not adhere to the rules of the Torah. And
what they made. Their first claims were, when they were they started
the movement is, oh, Moses made the Torah. So it's not from God,
even though there was never a gap in our history. We're talking over
a million people were people of the book, everybody. People wrote
books and constantly, and nobody
challenged to say that it wasn't true. The fact that we saw God
speaking to us we that we heard God say, I know, I am your God,
and that the Torah was given to us by God. And that was passed down
from generation, there was never a gap. Yet this is before movement
started from Moses, Mendelssohn, his name should be obliterated. He
was the beginning of reform. And he said, we're going to reform
because you can pick and choose to do what you want, whatever is
convenient, because it's not from God. Anyway, that's how reform
started. And the reform was exactly what they say they can
reform. You can't reform God's word, but they just don't believe
it's God's word. Yet they want in order to give themselves
legitimacy. They, they ordained, ministers would call rabbis they,
they, they made things that similar to synagogues, but it's
also similar to the church, they made the temples, they, they, they
changed the garb of how the people pray, they put an organ that plays
on the Sabbath, which is forbidden for us. And they don't keep the
Sabbath. They don't
respect the laws of the Sabbath. They don't respect the laws of
Kosher all these commands, doesn't mean anything by them, they pick
what is convenient, why they are trying to assimilate, they want to
be able, they said they wanted to fit into society, where they were
living, and to be respected instead of being scorned as Jews.
And it became very popular fortunately. And in order to say
that that should be accepted, they, they made it back their
redeeming ministers, all of a sudden, they became rabbis, even
though they are lacking the knowledge of the total. And
they're certainly not practicing the laws of the door. And they
gave it a form of legitimacy, and became unfortunately spread like
fire. And quality of the people today are non Orthodox, they don't
keep the 10 commandments, even the Sabbath. So that's basically it
from them, their children and grandchildren like the generation
to later, but designers, these were people already who were not
practicing as a whole, and they didn't practice the laws that they
had nothing. And they weren't happy with this assimilation
project of trying to assimilate because they said we still see
that the non Jews sometimes will get drunk or something and say you
dirty Jew, and it wouldn't help the fact that they were they were
trying to just be the same like like the non Jews. So that was one
of the excuses
They said that they wanted to create a Jewish state their own
homeland. And that way, they'll protect themselves with guns and
so forth. Now, this whole concept of Zionism could only come out of
a non religious concept. Because God warned us, firstly took us out
of Egypt, we accepted the Torah 3000 years ago, and we were told
to go on to the Holy Land. We went in through miracles, the walls of
Jericho, sunk work throughout the end. So it was God's miracle. But
God told us we have to be in a very high level of holiness, in
order to remain as a nation there, if any required of us to build the
temple, and Solomon built the temple. That was a second step
later. But basically, there was on the condition that we should be on
a very high level of spirituality of holiness. If we don't remain on
that high level of spirituality, that we will warrant by God, that
we will be sent from the land, we will be exiled from the land, and
we will and that came about 2000 years ago, that's men period of
1000 years we that we had there. And
then we were dispersed amongst nations with the destruction of
the temple. And we were warned by God through prophecy of King
Solomon, that we are forbidden to attempt to return and mass in
large numbers, or try to end exile in any shape or form. We should
not rebel against any nation. So we have three prohibitions not to
rebel against nations, not to return and mass not to attempt to
indexer that's a stringent command of the Almighty. And that's 2000
years ago, and since then, was dispersed amongst the nation. And
we suffered
Inquisition, that they tried to forcibly convert us to
Christianity in Europe, and many other trials and tribulations, but
we never our communities never attempted to reestablish a Jewish
sovereignty. Why, because we were worn by God, we are an exile. God
is compassionate. He's the ruler of the world, when he he sees our
suffering, but he feels the time is right, he will end that Zoll at
which time we believe there'll be a metaphysical change that will
all humanity will recognize one, God now becomes Jewish, but
everybody will believe in one God, they'll stop being atheists, God
will then bring us back together and God Himself, the Almighty
himself, will, will build the temple. That's what we believe. So
we'll be without any human intervention, the whole concept
would be a miraculous change in the world. That is the Jewish
believing will yearn a break for that closeness to God that we're
lacking. Now. We are in a pray for the return to the Holy Land, yes,
but not a matter of taking the gun or returning, it's when God will
this compassion will end this whole worldly concept the way it
is today with a metaphysical change. That's Judaism. Zionism
came along. And these were really children of non
practicing Jews. And they came along and said, you know enough of
this even a simulation, and they're not religious anyway.
They're gonna come they're gonna make their own state, so the
rabbi's would they, of course, said to them. You know what? You
guys can't do this. You can't make your own state it's forbidden,
expressly forbidden for Jews, but they left it Who are you to say?
Well, they did look at the rabbi's with any respect to anything,
there was a group of non practicing Jews rebelled,
rebelling against God, some of them didn't even believe in God,
or maybe a lot of them didn't believe in God. So this whole
concept was it was a transformation of a student from
Judaism, which makes subservience to God, which we strictly practice
for 3000 years into any results, Judaism and nationalism. Now, they
wanted to make their homeland, the Zionists, in Patagonia and Uganda,
different places, because they were looking for a practical
place, that they should have lost land that it should, because it
was way before the time of technology. So they wanted to some
have a land that should be productive, and they should be
able to create a beautiful country. But then they realized
that a meeting in Bessel, Switzerland at night and these
were they said, Look, we can't in order to establish a country you
need the backing of the world. You know, people all over the world
have powers and even a massive amount of support. So they decided
to, you know, be more practical to go to Palestine. Although
Palestine was not such a lush land, but at the same time, they
will be able to pick it back and use the facts that choose are
called the children of Israel, that God gave us the land that and
they'll be able to have a narrative and told the world hey,
you should support us because we're the people of the Book, the
children of Israel returning to the land of Israel, that God
promises and the Evangelists, the Christians that fits like hand in
glove, that's what they want to hear. And they're very happy to
support such a thing, so that millions and millions of
Christians who support this concept of Jews returning to the
Holy Land, so
They realize they can get support. And also, unfortunately, the
majority of Jews are really well non religious, and they can turn
to them and counting on their ignorance in the Jewish law, and,
and weighing on their emotions. They could say, Hey, you, every
Jew says in his presence in the, in the in the Passover.
Say that we make we say the coming year in Jerusalem, the coming year
and tourism. So they will use these concepts and they can say,
hey, you know, we're returning to Jerusalem, just like God told us
with the beginning of redemption, they use the concept with
beginning of God's redemption, even though the ones who are
knowledgeable amongst them know clearly and very well understood
and knew that according to the Torah, we're expressly forbidden
to return. And it's not God's redemption, we're supposed to be
living in all throughout the world as loyal citizens and every
country will reside, praying for the well being of the country. We
are it's a requirement of Judaism, but they didn't care. So Zionism
is a transformation from subservience to God to base
material nationalism. And on the contrary, they take God out of the
equation, because they ignore the fact that we're not allowed to, in
fact, make our own so even one centimeter one inch of Jewish
sovereignty is forbidden, since the the success of that God's will
that we should be humbled, we should be subservient to realize
we're in exile, and cause us to be closer to God and pray and ask for
God's compassion. So doing what they're doing is a direct
rebellion against God. It's rooted in blasphemy, because their whole
concept is like they they claim one of the reasons they claims I
mean reaction to the Satan is driving them to make the state
what do they need it for? They should just stop the Jews
practicing Jews anyways, just do your thing. And whatever land you
living, no, but they insist on making this country that the code
Jews take and they use it because to be able to sell to the
Christians and so forth. So they use the Star of David Nichol in
his field, which is Jacob. But but but when you ask them, Why do you
need this? Say, what do you what do you mean why we need you want
to see how much we suffered throughout the history in Europe.
So we we say, Look, we believe in God, everything is from God. God
is compassionate. tsunami comes from God, earthquake, a plague.
And all good that comes is everything that's from God, we
turn to God we we look at God to protect us. So it's a you will
keep to God to protect you, we will ask God, so they spew
blasphemy heresy, and it's and they score nuts. And they laugh at
the religious too. They said, Yeah, you're looking at that. The
solution is to take a god and make your own state and protect
yourself. So and then, of course, they tried to embellish it news
conflate Judaism with it that you know that it should look kosher,
it's look good. And they they use the facade and the masquerade, and
Israel, Star of David menorah, all these different things. But the
underlying issue is that they score and I laugh at that
religious Jew who looks to God to protect them, and says only the
Almighty can protect us and is the protector. And so it's included in
that then unfortunately, being that they made the state and
Palestine. So now we have another issue. Because if it would have
been in a desolate land and uninhabited, we still would oppose
them because we're in zone will forbid it to return in mass and
make our own country as individuals, God permitted us to
live there under the Ottoman Empire, whoever it may be, as
well. They gave us permission to live there, these countries so we
can to work permits us, but to make go a mass and make a national
home that's within. But being that they decided to make their
national home, not in Uganda or Patagonia better in Palestine. So
now they had a technical problem, because it wasn't happening. They
were people living there in hundreds and hundreds of villages
and towns and so forth. And these when they came along, and they had
to, they want to establish the state, they have these people who
are an impediment to that they have to get rid of them somehow.
So they tried first buying land, and at the beginning of the Arabs
and Muslims sold the land to the Jews, because they had no problem
with the Jewish people. We were living together in the same
courtyards. I always show the pictures of how we lived together
and everybody an Arab and Muslim
picturing that closer there. Yeah, how we would live together. This
is how Jews live together with Muslims. And it's throughout
history. I mean, everybody has these pictures. Everybody lives in
a Muslim country, in Iraq, in Tunisia and Yemen and in Morocco,
and anyplace, I mean, Lebanon, wherever they were Jewish people
that was you can still find the synagogues. We live in and of
course in Jerusalem, Al Quds, wherever it is, Jews live together
without any human rights to protect us because although we
have a different religion, a distinctly different religion, but
it was never an impediment of coexistence. So, so this, this is
a fact and not only that up top
that the Jews when we were when we were being murdered, basically, in
Europe by the Inquisition and the crusades, and throughout history,
Jews were embraced and given a safe haven in Muslim countries. So
even though we're, we have a distinctly different religion, the
Muslims never found a problem with that. And the contrary, they are
they told they are told by their Imams and by the religion, that
they should protect and respect the Jewish people. And they did.
And we, we flourished in these countries. So now when design is
come along, and they decided to create the state, now they had a
problem people, they, they have people living there. So at the
beginning, I said they started buying, the Muslims had no problem
selling Jews, homes and everything. But when all of a
sudden they became aware that these Jews, people are coming from
Europe, they're not just buying homes, they plan to create their
control over the land. So they stopped, they didn't want to sell
to them. And then designers started attacking them. And as for
instance, stereo syndrome, very well known as the horrific
massacre and Derya sin, where it was a village of friend friends to
the Jews, it was a mountain Muslim.
Residents over there was very friendly, the Jewish people were
the best friends over there. But then they got along, and these
Zinus came in, and they massacred there. You said, our rabbis told
us of this I met Rabbi I knew the rabbi's generations have passed on
now. And I'm sure there's some people alive still could remember
this. And the companies that used to grip the teeth when they talked
about it was such pain and sorrow. And this was what what designers
did. And of course, they did it in the name of Judaism. And so they
came and they took over the way and now people started asking
questions around the world what's going on there? The whole and you
know what, why is it turmoil? What's What's the strife what's
happening? You know, we live in for hundreds of years of Jews
Muslims going on. So the design is unfortunately, as I said, they
were very well connected to Britain and to the so the, the new
creations of television and radio and all these new media outlets.
They went through and they had they had the connections with
these media outlets. And they had the mic in the hands the soul mic
and they spoke and they said, Oh, it's a bunch of anti Semites,
these are Bedouins riding on camels, some backward nations of
people over there. That is, it's really an empty land to land
without a people for people without a land. It's it's nothing
what you're seeing there is just some people that are trying to
just hate Jews and the stopping people from you know, trying to
settle their lives. So with that narrative, they went on and on and
on and told the world that they're settling in the land is is a holy
issue. It's from God, and the ones who are trying to stop them are
just some backward people running around there. But that was totally
false. So as the Jewish community who were living together with the
Muslims with the Palestinians, we, our rabbis, cried, cried foul and
they said they said this is not us. They pleaded the chief rabbi
at the time when the Zionists made a rabbinic then the chief rabbi,
yeah, window dressing, but we had a rabbinate that a chief rabbi,
whose name was Rabbi Saddam filled in the 1920s Have a blessed
memory. And he met with the king of trans to ordain especially went
to meet him. And he, and we have the pictures of that. And he put
into Arab newspapers in Arabic, that we want to be real loyal
citizens we want to be, we're not aspiring to take over the Aqsa
Mosque and all that we have the writings in Arabic key that he put
in the Al Al Salam newspaper at the time, when he passed on the
next chief rabbi was Rabbi de Schinsky. And this is a 1947
already with the Zionists were almost they almost there, they got
the United Nations, which was really after the League of Nations
and was the United Nations. And the United States sent the
delegate to see what was the story of Palestine. And they will,
they're worth seeing if they should give these the Jewish
people their homeland, of course, Zionist, but the way they the way
they put sold the narrative. So the chief rabbi, Rabbi, the
Schinsky, who was the head of the real Jewish community that will
living there, he pleaded with the delegation to the United Nations,
and this isn't
July 16 1947, and he said, We furthermore wish to express our
definite opposition to state in any part of Palestine. We don't
want this and that on and on, he passed on. We took up another
cheap rabbi, you can see the 1000s of 10s of 1000s of Jews gathering
in the streets of Jerusalem.
Community flourish, the community is there and the community around
the world
invariably the very religious communities, I'm from New York,
Williamsburg, Brooklyn, that's right across Manhattan. There's
that one single Israeli flag. It's the largest concentration of
religious Jews outside of Jerusalem, but all the getting
people to Montreal, you go to London, you go to any place with
this very, very religious communities, because they're very
religious. We are a total opposition, not only to what's
happening in Gaza, the mass slaughter and now that's
happening. But the existence of a so called Jewish state is anathema
is antithetical to our religion. Because our religion is to serve
God not to kill, not to steal, to be subservient, and to show
gratitude to people did us kindness like the Palestinians,
and the Muslims around the world. And here the Zionist create a
state that's against, we're not allowed to have their own
sovereignty. There are a bunch of heretics and they're doing it by
vilifying the people of Palestine according to math by Semites, and
simply
demonizing them and claiming that they're evil people with these
were our neighbors, friends, we will live together in total
harmony, and there's no reason for this. It's simply because they are
trying to create a saltfish Lord national home, they're all their
ideology and has nothing to do with religions. Religions live
together. I always saw this picture. This is when they made
the state David Ben Gurion reading the reading the Declaration of
Independence in 1948. Independence Hall. So this is the historic
moment when He's declaring the state his instars, a David on the
wall picture of Theodor Herzl not covering his head behind you. So
don't think it's a religious spirit he has. And here sitting on
the dais, there's not one person I think, covering his head, this is
a Jewish state you to get up on Rabbi there, somebody
covers his head too. So that leaves a god that's above us. It's
a requirement of the Torah. This is a Jewish state that they're
declaring the Declaration of Independence mind is so you could
see the fat, the total
hypocrisy falsehood, and the difference between what Judaism
is, and what Zionism is and what the state is. So this is a sad
history from day one. Jews have opposed entirely the existence of
the state, our rabbis have cried and pleaded with the world, that
they should be listened to, just like you respect the Pope.
So somebody can any religion you could use. Why don't you respect
the Jewish community that was living in Palestine, or the Jews
around the world who have the Jewish religion all of us claimed
as clearly stated, this is a farce. This is a false application
of our religion, and it should not be given legitimacy. But
unfortunately, Zionism had the ears of Britain, leader of the
United Nations, which we believe it's the works of the Satan, it
doesn't make any sense. They will ratified in 1948. And since then,
and even before then, our rabbis have been demonstrating in the
streets, boys and girls, first of all, do not serve in their army
from our religious communities, because we don't want to help them
than any and they get arrested. Every boy and girl turn 17 becomes
a criminal, because we it's mandatory military service, we
refuse to serve in their army. Here, you see, they brutally beat
the it's not only the police, it's the army children. It's why we're
not carrying guns, they accused the Palestinians of terrorism,
which is which is, of course a most of it false. We're talking
about us we never carry a gun or a knife and 75 years they can't
accuse one of us doing that. Children old man they trampled
they they they they assassinate, they beat, they arrest on and on
and on. You see, this is the police. It's not the police. It's
the military. It's the army together with that police and it's
this would happen in any country around the world that there will
be screaming anti semitism, anti semitism, and they're doing this
daily to the Jews. I believe a few weeks ago with I went up to
demonstrate it was went viral, showing up Orthodox Jews being
beaten because they were demonstrating against the
existence of the state. Because say these are all that with this
1000s and 1000s these pictures here the spraying them with the
stink water that destroys their calls.
Stop
Zionist terrorists massacre in Gaza, these are in the measure of
the Jews quarters in Jerusalem, the religious quarters and so
forth. You see this they have paint that
Palestinian flag on the building. So this is basically what what
it's all about. We demonstrate from day one constantly. And now
when this happened, this massacre in Gaza, we cry we did not a day
that doesn't go that way. So the 60 days that we're demonstrating
in the streets tirelessly in front of the United Nations in
In London, in in Jerusalem, unfortunately, they went
demonstrating but they're brutally beaten when they go demonstrate
but we go out there will be 10s of 1000s more demonstrating for
wouldn't be for the vicious attacks of designers even around
the world without without car cars was slashed our cars keep mirrored
broken and so forth. And we get death threats. But we go out and
demonstrate there will be 10s of 1000s more, but we go out and
demonstrate and we hurt and feel now with the Gaza. We beg and
plead with the leaders of the world, that it's 75 years you went
lockstep with the Zionists, you listen to them, you bought the
narrative, what has that brought more suffering of the Palestinian
10s of 1000s of people murdered, but also Jews, besides what design
is a murderer and oppress and assassinate from our rabbis? But
even the ones that are there support what has brought this,
this issue this the creation of the State of Israel, it has
brought that can go to this their their cemeteries where their
soldiers are very you have 10s of 1000s buried why? Because they're
trying to implement a nationalist home called Israel. What Why is it
necessary when we were living together Jews and Muslims and
Christians, so it's only the implementation of this that's
causing death. And there'll be just this very one little thought
before they keep on attacking everybody today as anti semitic,
anti semitic, anti semitic. Again, remember, it's it's insulting the
intelligence of a base of any human being because tools they
came around a little over 100 years, not 75, a little over 100
years, Jews will living in every lap of Arab land, and we will
living in Palestine with people of the Arab and Muslim community and
Jewish community will attest how we live together. What changed,
one thing changed Zionism since I came this death and suffering. So
what is the root cause of all the bloodshed and the hate that's
growing around the world? They're yelling that this anti semitism is
growing? Purely the occupation? So they are the cause? The other the
personification of anti semitism and the cause of exacerbation of
anti semitism? And how dare they accuse these beautiful people of
Gaza? Who are our neighbors and friends, they made them they
dehumanize them, they demonize and dehumanize them that it's able to
bomb day in and day out and killing the world decide we plead
with the world. 75 years you bought into the narrative, respect
us, you hear what I'm sitting here with the muzzles, and what
everybody's yelling is that it's not the it's not a religious
conflict. It's a movement that's good, and work at 1200 people but
just murdered, and we're not condoning the violence. But but
it's a shock since Hitler, that didn't happen. Why did that
happen? Not because of the difference of religion, because of
the simple interpretation of the state. So it's actually safe
enough. And but that's not enough. So that killed 10s of 1000s of
Muslims there and Christians there in Gaza, that dying that being the
not commit the murdered the pulverized it. And the world is
saying we will continue buying what designers are saying, and let
people be murdered like ants
copy hands on unacceptable.
That was a great presentation, a great summary of the situation
from a religious perspective and how Zionism is essentially an
offshoot of nationalism. Just basically,
in a new form, I want to go back to this extremely important law,
that the Jews should not shall not go back into Israel, and establish
the state do not go back into the Holy Land, I should say in mass
and establish the state. So this is based on the Song of Solomon is
that what is that? Correct? It's crcm is sort of Song of Songs.
It's called the Book of Solomon. Yeah. That's a prophecy, a book of
prophecies considered the highest of prophecy. And in that book he
wrote, yeah, it's, it's an, it's written as a metaphor. And it's
explained in the time because it's, it's exactly explained. What
Okay, good. So it's a it's a prophecy of Solomon himself. Yes.
And the reason I'm asking this question is that when I looked it
up,
I saw something that was not explicit. And as you said, it's in
metaphor. The verse says, women, women of Jerusalem, take an oath
and make me a promise. Let the antelopes and the doves serve as a
witness. Don't stir up love. Don't wake up until it's ready. The
other women say
Who is this man? Coming?
up from the desert like a column of smoke, he smells like myrrh,
and incense from all the spices of the trader. Look there, Solomon's
moveable throne 60 Soldiers accompany. So when I looked this
up, I said, Hold on a second, I expected an oath. And now I have a
poem about Women of Jerusalem don't stir up your love. Now. So
I know it in Islamic context. When we say that there is a law from
God, we expect explicit terms, right, that cannot be equivocal,
understood in two different ways. So my question to you is, is this
verse right here? Is it agreed upon? That it means these three
oaths? Or is the metaphoric nature, a way for modern
orthodoxy? Some of these modern Orthodox, or some of these others
to wiggle arise? No, no, it's just a poem from Solomon. Well, that's
why I think I prefaced the whole. At the beginning, I said that the
total was given to Moses, The Five Books of Moses was 613
commandments, if you do not accept that Moses took from God orally,
which is called the written,
written,
Torah, the Oral Torah is one, but it's written in the oral part. If
you don't accept the oral you are not a practicing Jew, you can
translate what you want into the Torah and say what you like, for
instance, in the Torah, it says, An eye for an eye, according to
Jewish belief, it totally doesn't mean an eye for an eye, it means
the cost of an eye, you pay now, anybody who say no, well, I only
expecting and I, you know, I'm just following the Torah. I don't
have to fall. If he says that he's not a practicing Jew. He can do
what he wants, but I can't stop him. I mean, he can't do he wants
because if he's from Jewish origin, he has to follow the tour.
But when he's saying it just doesn't mean anything like they
will decry the dog Kim. They are people that also didn't accept the
written war, but they will cut off from Judaism. Right away. I mean,
because if somebody does, so our Torah is not it's, it's not
bendable, it's not pliable. We have to be pliable to the Torah,
we have to conform ourselves to the torah, the torah doesn't
conform to us. That's what orthodoxy means. So basically, no,
there is no question about what leads to the 3063 times the same
verse one is a slightly different of the birds that you mentioned,
as badly as the Nasution. Imma put you on the old daughters of
Jerusalem. But suppose I also saw the with the deer in the back of
the field into either of them to iOS, I have two templates, if you
will awaken my love prematurely. That first the inset, so that
tells the rabbi's tell us in the Talmud, that it says we touch
because God put the Jews on the three oaths, one that we should
not return and mass not to awaken my love the daughters of
Jerusalem, meaning the Jewish people. If I put you on those not
to awaken my love prematurely. It's speaking about God is
speaking to the Jewish people do not awaken my love prematurely by
leaving exile and returning one not an *, not rebelling against
any country and not to make any attempts to end the exile. And
that is clear across the board all Jewish people accepted till the
Advent recently, you know, whatever design is now. There were
some times people questioned the rabbi's if we can do we can leave
that leave it to my mom that is Moses, the people of Yemen and he
wrote them of course egress Garrison came on, he wrote to them
a letter explaining we are in exile, the morale of Prague, a
very famous rabbi in Prague. Czech Slovak is very they're few 100
years ago also wrote by said that we have to give our lives rather
than disobeyed is also across the board. Every Jew knew that we had
the opportunities throughout history, we although we went
through the Inquisition, there were times that it was called the
golden age of juicy with times that Jews were able to afford to
buy a piece of land get we never did this because we are in exile
and assets. That's that's the fastest by us the law and nobody
disagrees with that. Now there is you can ask how come then there
are people amongst Zinus? Who are they call themselves religious?
And they have a rabbis and CIPA? How did they get around all of
these issues? Mostly, it's not that they tried there are some
like you're saying they say oh, they don't have to be this. This
which is your blasphemy is somebody who doesn't accept the
will of the teachings of Moses, or, or that he can bend that any
of that teaching, but there are others. In the I give the example
that Talmud states that we're not allowed to eat bugs or worms. It's
just like we're not a PETA pig. And and so the Thomas says I can
prove 150 ways, why it's permitted permissible to eat the bog, or
Thomas telling us in other words, it's not permissible practice.
So it's like you can't eat a pig, you can't. It's just everybody
knows that. But still no, I could prove, if I would like to twist
the words, we could prove to you that it's kosher. So in other
words, a good lawyer would could open could take somebody off the
gallows, you know, they want so, so they have the ways of trying to
explain the design. Now, let us understand, as I was showing you
the Zionist movement, they were opposed by the rabbinical
authorities around the world every 130 years of religious opposition
to Zionism. So we have the leading rabbis besides 10s of 1000s of
rabbis who oppose it, but we have these are the leading rabbis
around the world, each one of their style, how they who spoke up
against Zionism, this is a great today will be 140 or 50 years.
Some of them many of them passed away before the State of Israel,
but they live inside ism came from Europe, and they oppose us. But
rabbis not only from Euro, from the spire, The commands from
Jerusalem, from Iraq, from whoever it may be, they all spoke up
against this movement. So one of the greatest exists example
because he was a codifier, to score just like my mind and his
and his time at later that one of the very accepted codifies of
Jewish law and concisely put it together was cool to have a timer.
But he so Mara Cohen, who passed away from sperm in 1933, that was
like 15 years before the State of Israel, but it was well into the
establishment of Zionism. So he wrote, you said the Zionists are
dead limbs of our people, which causes the entire body to rock. So
in other words, it's it's a growth on the body that causes the entire
body to rise. So basically, that was just one example. But anyway,
they were all its steadfast and total opposition to this, to this,
this concept of Zionism, yet the so this is clear, the designers
were asked to size that the beginning, later, unfortunately,
after World War Two, where millions of Jews were killed, and
amongst mostly was the leaders that were the first to be murdered
at Stalin, his name should be iterated, also murdered,
and put sent to Siberia, the ones were teachers of Jews. So we will
lead her this and to a certain degree, we thank God God left us
with, with his compassion, a few great rabbis to lead us not to
fall into the hands of Zionism. But But scientists were able to
make a foothold to get a foothold, especially in Palestine, if the
destruction that happened, the 6 million Jews amongst the my
grandparents, and many of my relatives in the dark, and my
relatives, my Poland and Hungary for my parents came from.
But but the designers, and especially what they were able to
gain foothold, because they were given by Britain, rights in the
Holy Land and Palestine, and then of course, by the United Nations.
So they were able to use that power and the fact that you
suffered so much, and they were left a generation of orphans, that
they were able to sell them to see what happens if you didn't have
and vilify the Muslims. So they were able to solidify that. So now
what they did was this, this group of heretics, they were able to,
they try to incorporate the religion by making a rabbinic the
chief rabbi, they got a few
rotten apples, basically, knowledgeable people, scholars
about the use of this one that one Cook, they were able to get people
who are scholars, but unfortunately, who were evil,
basically. And they became the Chief Rabbis and they were able to
sell now what did they do? So let what did they do with these three
O's, for instance, that's a problem for them. So they use the
one of the concepts they use. They say, Oh, God also put the nations
on the oath not to oppress the Jews in exile. You know, that's
enough suffering. And so we are not to press and being that we are
so oppressed by the nations that nullifies and negates the US that
the Jews around them. Now that's true, but that is one of the
Zionist ploy of explaining to their people, why they are able to
create a state and of course, they use whatever just an example that
I could give, you know, that they try to, you know, so they use the
concept of with the beginning of redemption, God's redemption, and,
and, and the yearning that Jews have to return there. And the
vilification of the Muslims, like I say and fear mongering that wow,
the Nazis just murdered us. Now, if you can, the Arabs just like
the Nazis and they were actually affiliated, the Mufti was
affiliated with Hitler that they're going to warn murder every
Jew and so you have to save the life. So you have to protect
yourself and therefore you should have so use fear mongering and
and, you know, a total you know, it's
a system of a ploy you're using the Holocaust and propaganda and
this and that, but it's all it's all evil. It's unacceptable and
the Jewish communities around the world today
The religion, plead with the Jews and non Jews to understand and
hear that they're being misled by a corrupt group. And it's not
Judaism were forbidden to occupy with linen to steal, even if
they're suffering, you have no right to take the land of another
people you can't. And it's all wrong. It's all wrong. We cry and
hurt with the people who doesn't.
Let me ask you another question. Now, time has passed. Now, it must
be very tempting for a religious rabbi and a student of the Torah
to have his own country now. So question is now
how many of the Orthodox and Hasidic Jews and their companies
communities have bought into this alteration of the oath that
Obadiah Yossef and those others have, have sort of preached? And
as you said, he's a big scholar and respected. So many people may
say, Well, look, if he says it, then that must be the right
ruling. And so has orthodoxy began to change its opinion on these
three oaths and buy into that, what would you say is the
percentage, right? What would help with the almighty first of all,
I'm not even sure if he also buys into that claim.
Because he wasn't, he was a wild guy, by the way. Yeah, people
know, he actually came from his rabbis were anti Zionist, by the
way he came from, but his fire was wild. And um, so like, sometimes
he would say, some anti Zionist things, and then he would jump and
he would, and he became, of course, the Chief Rabbis, whatever
he said, is mute that is just you know, as No, it's not doesn't
matter, because he's carrying the position of a chief rabbi of
theirs. But so yeah, you know, different reasons, whatever you
did, you know, trying to condone, and would you use the last word to
try to condone their occupation, as because of the dangers that was
imminent from the Arabs? A cook was the father of the first chief
rabbi, and he was the one who's really on the establishment of the
state where they was condoning.
But now that's that the usually you will find across the board and
this is you go to any area around the world, the very religious
communities that precede them usually are anti Zionist, I mean,
that's across that wherever you go, the United States like I say,
we go to we go to Lakewood, New Jersey, Lakewood, New Jersey, the
rabbi Zionist, as you will see Israeli flags there. I mean, you
may find one or two there there. You never know. So I can always,
you know, they always find that revolutionary guy who wants to
stick it to somebody, you know, show that I can, you know, the
Wise Guys are there. But the community definitely they're anti
Zionist. I mean, we know the rabbi's. They were the chief like
being of the whole school that started the whole liquid
community. These were strongly anti Zionist, God fearing people
have about the habit the modern Orthodox the your BEN Shapiro's
your Harvard and Yale Orthodox Jews, right, right. So
unfortunately, the more it goes on that slippery slope, the more the
matter what they call modern Orthodox is a euphemism for
compromise Judaism, modern Orthodox, what does it mean
matter? That you're like I said, we we conform ourselves to the
religion whether whatever year we're in whatever change and time
we have to conform and stay it's true and fast to the letter of the
law of the Torah. That's what Judaism is. But modern means Oh,
they dress usually, they don't dress modestly the women that are
supposed to, according to to, and they are modern means
really the a compromise Judaism in every aspect when it comes to
issues of kosher food, and they're studying the learning the schools
won't be like Lakewood were traded through religious learning day and
night, they would have in the modern day teach.
Many, they spend many, many hours of
other subjects that they're studying, rather than studying the
Torah as a main state. Almost the whole day and learning you know,
just what's necessary, absolutely necessary, because that's what
Judaism is, to be a people to be a God required of us to be a nation
of priests, so we have to be constantly studying the Torah. And
so they're there. They're usually really lacking in the knowledge of
the Torah, a lot of them. Some of them are scholars, I'm not taking
away that they're not so but but unfortunately, in practice, they
are totally compromised. That's what modern Orthodox from them you
will find what's called Miss Rafi, the movement that started
religious Zionism and that we will find the settlers come from either
religious homes or from modern Orthodox Jews.
Word Mizrahi means religious Zionist. It doesn't mean that Ms.
Misaki does not mean that but that's the the group that they
gave themselves that name
for the religious science at the beginning of Zionism, okay. So so
you will find these are the ones who are supportive is of Israel mo
marching Israeli Independence Day Parade, we are very, very close to
the Israeli Independence Day Parade, which I go we go
religiously every year on the side, not with them, but opposing
them. We never stand against them. But when we go, you will never
find religious really, if you go to schools marching with them, you
will find the ones who are marching with them are coming on
nonreligious and have women singing, which is forbidden by the
Jewish of Amenti. And women singing, they will do anything
that they don't make, you know, they dress totally modestly. And
they have the schools they'll have the from modern day schools
they'll have from schools, children who come from this
manner, but not from the very good just because across the board,
wherever you will find the very religious, it's totally
contradictory, our religion to Zionism, killing of the Arabs, the
killings, the vilification of the people, of the people of Gaza in
the palace, the the creation of a state everything in every aspect.
Besides which we didn't even talk about how they try the State of
Israel to disrupt Judaism, by the anything that has to do with two
things. They're just they tried to put an Olympic pool right in the
center of the holiest park of the way the Jewish people ever made
Sharm that area of Jerusalem because they want to undercut
undermine and break the backbone of the religious communities. They
dig up graves for archeological study even though according to the
Torah were forbidden, it's forbidden for us to do that.
People will die for that we people we have our people run to the
cemeteries around because there are people buried for two or 3000
years of Jews so they know the exact dating of bodies to whom for
the for the archaeologists, and the government stands there with
the guns to protect them and we our people jump into the holes
into the fight and from digging up the graves, they pick up they they
they destroyed cemeteries to make highways hotels and no respect for
the dead while in Egypt I went to Egypt they they made a ring road
in order not to destroy a Jewish cemetery they melt they for
millions of millions of dollars they built it off pillars that
they shouldn't disturb a Jewish cemetery that had to make a ring
row because of the traffic in in in Cairo. So they made a very in
the ring road and they and they it was a tremendous to center so they
built nobody talks about that but the Israelis they make the bush
six they made an extension of the highway right they remember to do
so. So we're dealing with the corrupt and evil but let us
customary laws that so when you see settlers you're always seeing
religious or the what they call the the government today. Who are
these guys? You might see them they think wow so many religious
people know very religious communities where you live you're
in the United States come to New York come to Brooklyn See, go to
the Lakewood go to the very religious communities are not
Zionist. Not everybody will be so vocal like we are because of the
fear of the intimidation, the attacks, but they are anti
Zionist. This is clear the Lakewood leadership over there
they are students of the great great rabbis anti Zionist clearly
anti Zionist work together with the chief rabbi of Palestine Rabbi
titled on the blessed memory, fighters and Zionism what is a
heredity? What is the Haredi sect or group? What does that term
refer to?
Right? Right means fear. Courage means to fear parading God fearing
it's the same thing like orthodox. Okay. They usually call the
Haredi. The ones who are golfing, they may say like to always give
us some, you know, a degrading pass and they say the ultra
orthodox or the extreme okay. He's not a different theology. No, no,
totally not. Okay. Kebab. Kebab. Oh, that's that's a problematic
area. Okay.
Bad and and we have our writings of the Habad rabbis. How bad was
one of the students of Bao Shan Knapp student called the magnet,
misery, misery to this city Tao. And
the satsa and his students he had one of his students was the first
Habad Rebbi about is an acronym for being a das which means
knowledge as wisdom, basically. So and that was that the get name
give it to that group. A Baba toolbar, which is the name of the
town where they got to kind of Zurab was the customs of groups
that named after the towns where they go. So button Lubavitch are
the same, same thing. Okay. God is the name of the activity that they
give to the what they have been a das like. Yes. Now just but the
town
They came from the rabbi's was little Babbage. So it's actually
seven generations that they had Ababa, two rabbits. And the first
the first ones were before well before Zionism, but the last four,
were in the period of Zionism, three or four.
So the three prior to the last one, we're very strongly anti
Zionist, and wrote the most eloquent and the most strongest
languages we have from them against against Zionism. And it's
quoted in our book again, the rabbi's speak out, sharply spoken
people against scientism, what are the people of here, Rabbi Shalom,
though they are Schneerson, because that's the name of the
family Schneerson.
He was from 1866 on the sperm tonight, the 2019 20. So he wasn't
the time period of Zionism. And we have money with quotes against
Zionism was very strongly anti Zionist. He said, we strongly
oppose Zionism, for religious reasons. And for the sake of peace
with our country, in the name of God, in the name of the Holy
Torah. We warn our brethren all have the fear of God in their
hearts, to separate from the doctrine of Zionism entirely and
to avoid their company.
So I'm saying the sharpness of the language against Zionism? Yeah.
The last
rabbi, was a son of war of the one previous to him, also came from
that dynasty of Schneerson of that family. And they took him up to be
the rabbi in the United States. There's the big one, the one that
was well known Mendel Schneerson. He unfortunately, was a very
controversial person. He never declared himself a Zionist, he
never went to visit Israel.
But he was controversial. And in many issues, we consider it like a
cult. And it's a whole issue by itself. There's books written
about this. And many things that he did that the other rabbis felt
very uncomfortable with. In fact, many of the spouses consider that
he didn't even die, although he died like many years ago, 40 years
ago, whatever it may be, and they some of the weave that is still
alive. It's very, that's why I see his pictures everywhere. Yes, sir.
In part, where do they live the Lubavitch? Well, this base is in
Crown Heights, Crown Heights. And when you go there, you see this
certain man's picture everywhere. Right? Right. So we find that very
troublesome because it's considered like idolatry to a
certain manner. The break there sort of veering off, and we had
problems while he was still alive. Yeah,
Zionism is very religious, knowledgeable follows exists. That
is that it was a very strong anti Zionist. But as far as we're
concerned, he condoned the Israeli armies to go fight, because he
said, big for protection and so forth. And our rabbis considered
very off very. And that's so bad. Unfortunately, there are mind you
from Habad groups that are very strongly anti zines that group
because of that.
One of the reasons that we say this, many cops have problems with
that group, but unfortunately, they're very well known. They go
around that.
But it's like a cult, we have a cold problem with that. And he
again, he didn't advocate Zionism. But he said, because we have to
protect ourselves. And we found this very troublesome. We found
him very troublesome. And he was really basically not accepted. And
in the whole world, sort of orthodoxy. Yeah. So he was
basically maybe just like, for the Crown Heights. population was
there. Their leader, well known around the world because his
system was and it wasn't just his system, he followed in the
footsteps of his father and so forth, that they should send
people out to the world to be able to bring them back to Judaism.
People love Judaism. So they're very no just like the set was you
always see them because they're in the, in your face there by the
settlements. So you think wow, I've always seen these religious
guys, when they're only the peripheral they're only they're
coming. You know, they're not the mainstream of the religious Jews.
They're just a group of that coming from either non religious
or marginally religious and they they're idealists they go on to
grant
hilltops and they put their children in danger, we'll give
them the right to do it, but that but these come because they
idealists who are fighting following in the Zionist
propaganda, but not the very religious would do this. Now you
go in regard to the Lubavitch they also he sends his people out to go
around the world to everywhere we find there's a community they send
them out, you know, to try to establish the Kula Habad house to
try to bring them back supposedly to religion, but unfortunately,
they tried to bring them to the bar which I told him we find it's
like a cold and very troublesome
find that many of them because they're not knowledgeable and they
fall in this thing that he said that they need protection that
that even though it totally contradicts to be anti Zionist,
they play along with that there are from them who aren't like that
might do the offer, and who will say yes, we understand that it's
wrong. And they are not scientists, but unfortunately, a
lot of them you know, really a lot of them are simply ignorant to the
total altogether that they send them around is sending so many
people around that they can't they don't have enough quality of the
pill though the tour properly.
All right, let's see if we can have one or two questions here.
Okay, Kevin, what is this curve? Carew Is this a also a preaching
movement, or repentance preaching movement. Pyramid means to help
people return to Kira needs to bring close to help we turn to the
Judaism who don't know unfortunately I can say reformed
destroy Judaism, before Zionism came that people believe that can
be good Jews, even if they're not practicing, was curious comes
along and tries to go to these people who are not religious and
try to bring them back to religion.
And LaBovick was busy with Kirov
So, but so is every curve part of the Bible? No, no, not at all. Not
many people who are who are serious rabbis and you know that
just good Jews know they feel they see a Jews not practicing. We
believe that every Jew has to keep the laws of the tour if they're
born from a Jewish mother. That's what goes by the mother's side. If
they were from a Jewish mother, they are Jewish, and they are
required to keep all the commandments. So we try to we meet
the Jew, we try to talk to them, we want to bring them back that
they should follow the laws of the Torah. Not to be a Zionist, not to
kill, not to steal to keep Sabbath and keep kosher, and that we got
killed so many people tried to do it. Okay, here's another question.
monsy New York has a Jewish community. Can you tell us about
their politics with regard to Zionism? Well, Muncie, thank God,
I live in Muncie. And you will hardly see an Israeli flag, if you
will see any Well, unless you drive miles and miles up to now.
And that's because as a general rule, it's very orthodox, it's
pretty much all very flexible in their mind. And it actually
started as a very, I mean, they were non religious and marginally
religious. But more and more religious people moved in through
the years, and it became very, very a lot of religious Jews. And
therefore, you will find there used to be a synagogue that had a
star flag on it, there was a school that a flag on it, they
disappeared. And so you will find in Muncie that
mostly non I would say non Zionist there, and some are very actively
against Zionism. But most people just, like I say, people are very
reluctant to go out and speak. But that's because if you wouldn't be
then you would see full of flags all over. There was just a case,
actually. Ramapo Township, which is the, the township of Muncie,
they decided to put up a flag there. And many people complain
that somebody actually took it off. And there's a whole issue
there. Because and people complain Well, gives you the right, yeah,
they found some Zionist to put it up on the Court steps to
government thing, but like I say, the community you will find to be
I think, as a majority anti Zionist, okay. Here is, I think,
I'm quite sure because the schools if you will follow the schools, or
the very religious schools that they're all at those islands.
Yeah.
A couple more, one more question we'll take.
Okay, here, here's a very simple question.
The origins of Zionism. Our atheists, essentially, first first
part of the question is, is it actually true that Hertzel and Ben
Gurion and Golda Meier were actually atheists? We know that
they were not practicing Jews, but they were actually atheists? If
so?
Do they simply view the Bible as a historical record? Why would they
care at all about the Bible in the first place? That's very
coachable. Let me just go back to the list because I like to be
you know, exact thing true. I said that you won't find any school
that Zionist I'm sure there is some ways they possibly as good as
almost entirely all the schools that we know the religious schools
around here are anti Zionist, again, you may find somewhere
something. Okay, now that said, yes, yes. Very good question.
Theodore hurt. So we put out a book, traditional Torah opposition
to Zionism historical documents. One of the many options we have in
Arabic we have some documents that the rabbi's said to the Arabic
newspapers, you know, the anti Zionist and that we have quotes of
designers
So Theodor Herzl wrote in his own diary, page 14, and we're quoting
him, he said late to solve the problem of anti semitism is to
speak to the head priest of Vienna, to get an appointment with
the Pope to make a mass conversion of all the Jews of Austria to
Catholicism. Wow, this is the father of Zionism. solution to
all the Jews converted to OCD thought it should be done on a
Sunday in the middle of the day with music and pride.
We are the last generation that held on to the faith of our
forefathers. The conversion will be in St. Stephen's Cathedral.
Imagine what we're talking here. This is the father the son of the
hero of the disease, and he has since he and his children did
cover it out of the religion. Wow. Jabotinsky wrote Jabotinsky was
the founder of revisionist Zionism. He was the mentor of mate
Menachem Bagan who was one of the prime ministers he wrote in the
newspaper or its newspaper in 1919. Already then, he wrote in
the national home, we will announce that those Jews who have
on themselves the rust of exile, and they refuse to shave off their
beards and earwax will be second class citizens and to vote. The
Jewish state.
know some Rabbi used to quote this. And he said to me, yeah, so
who said this? So this got into the Nazi hit who said, Oh, no,
other Zionist. So you're just giving an idea why they were, why
they use the Bible, very simply because they're not religious.
They don't have morals of God. So they don't care that the force of
AI they don't care that they have no compunctions to take the Star
of David Maccabees. It's the now the holiday of lights kind of go.
The Maccabees were the children of the high priest
that went out and fought against the Greeks. They were a handful of
people, five people against 1000s, hundreds of 10s, or hundreds of
1000s of soldiers. And the and, and they actually the Jews were
paying, they were under the Greeks at the time by the Second Temple,
and they were paying a fortune of taxes. And what happened was that
they paid they didn't revolt, but then the Greeks put out a decree
that Jews can't keep the Sabbath can't do circumcision, so they
were able to give the lives for this Jews last winter so they went
out these old men was probably the Maccabees
Max yo was going God all the high priests and as
we are and then his children and they went out these bikes and they
had a sword and the shield and the shield that that acronym me
commercial bail, Masha, who was strong like you got, when God made
a miracle, and they they were able to be victorious against all the
soldiers and they found a bottle of oil and a birthday days,
whatever it was, and we celebrate it's called the holiday lights, we
celebrate issue of lights of purity of serving God and the
temple. While design is have the picture of the Maccabees and the
Olympic team and these nothing to do with godliness as if their army
is the Maccabees. Yes, in misconstrue, they use the Torah,
everything simply as a tool to intimidate others that people do
not stand up against them as attacked Sanford Semitic, they use
instead of using the stories of Abraham, Isaac and Jacob and the
Maccabees and all the issues as holiness and how to serve God,
they use it as a nationalism. And so everything gets twisted and
destroyed and they try and they destroy the whole soul of Judaism.
So for us, it's a Nakba, under the stress what they're doing for the
Palestinians and our and what they're doing in our name. It's a
double neck. And firstly, the destroying the souls of Jews by
uprooting what it means to be a Jew to an ersatz to be a shell of
simply a nationalism. So it's, for us the worst tumor and cancer God
should bring it up peaceful and speedy. The dismantlement, the
removal of this terrible, terrible tragedy is colossal tragedy. And
nowadays soon. Well, I really appreciate your time. I think we
share. We both share a hatred of reformists in our respective
religions because we have our own share of them and also deem them
to be really the source of all problems who needs enemies when
you have reformists in your own religion
and liberals and people who are have no respect for your book, you
try to fight for your cause. So we have so much of that I see so much
the commonalities between you know what you're saying and a lot of
the conversations we have amongst ourselves as well with with those
types.
I would ask you if you can see to get the word I appreciate you
having on the program if you can spread the word especially the
people of Gaza the people that week, Jewish religious people
around the world were crying and hurting with them it's not
Judaism. It's not a religion. It's not the Jews who are tu tu tu we
heard and cry with them. Mind you. There's so many other Jews who
simply but they call it human rights, the standing up for them.
We as the Jewish religion and Judaism we are crying
hurting because when people call you human rights we call
godliness. We are crying and hurting with them. And we pray
every day that you know that God should bring the speedy and
peaceful total dismantlement of the state. Of course, it hurts us
the 1200 children that we have children, people were killed the
code for the product that they say brought about the attack. But we
say what you fool you fooling it's Zion isn't abroad. This is that
God should hope he should end this occupation entirely. We could
embrace the people that was giving his back your home for free
Palestine. And God help we should come to the day when all humanity
will recognize one God, sermon harmony.
You mentioned a number of books. Do you have a website where people
can get those books? Well, MK USA. Yeah, I believe it's on my site is
should the era WW NK USA, let me
tried to do something that has a more clear
picture of a Site Audit.
I don't know if you see because it's a read this one, but it's WwM
K for the two records. WW. I see it here. And K USA if you can put
it up on your site. Appreciate it. Very good. I see it here. Good.
Good. Good. Yeah. Here's,
well, on the bottom here it says, our site choose United WW en que
usa.org. Okay, wonderful. Yeah, I see it here. So all the all those
books that you mentioned, that can be found here. Correct. With God's
help? Yeah. Okay. Great. Great. Thank you so much for your time,
really appreciate it. There are a lot of comments saying they have a
lot of respect for your honesty regarding the you're sticking to
your text, and your the courage that you have speaking out against
those who are breaking the laws of your texts. And people who are
consistent in things, they tend to like others who are consistent,
you know, in their principles in their beliefs. So I think we
resonated a lot with that. Thank you. Thank you again, for your
time, and perhaps in the future. We'll have you on again. Thank
you. Appreciate it again. Thank you very much. Thank you.
Okay.
There you have everyone,
was a lot more detail than I than I expected. And what was amazing
detail was really good
insights that he brought a very crystal clear and simple
understanding of how Zionism is something completely different
from Judaism. It's, in fact, a nationalization of a religious
people. You have people who have a religion, you're transforming it
into a nationalism, and it's an imitation of the Europeans. Right?
That's essentially what it is. The Europeans are the ones who raised
up nationalism, even it wasn't a thing for Muslims either. Right?
Most of them didn't believe in any of these borders and nationalism.
We had a deen.
And though, when we didn't have a lot of these borders, so as
Muslims have imitated and become nationalists, likewise, in the
Jewish community, were those who became nationalists. And they left
off their book and followed and sought to imitate the Europeans.
And essentially Zionism are a court, as he said, imitators of
Europeans,
right, to the exclusion of their law, and disrespect of their book
and their scholars. So you're gonna see a lot and I just saw a
couple of videos this morning, IDF soldiers, no respect for their
elders of the religious people. These religious scholars walking
around and religious students of knowledge get pushed around and
bullied all the time by the idea first, at first, I was like, Wait,
what's going on here? I don't understand why are they going
after their own people? And you realize, oh,
it's actually quite easy to understand. Once we have the
analogy to our own reformed types, our own Islamic so called Muslim
countries who despise the scholars, right. And then when you
have people out there, and they're worried about places like Oh,
Egypt and
Saudi and they're gonna bring Islam to the world, I'm like, they
are the last people wherever you bring you in Islam in the world,
right there. The last the, the sincere and honest scholars in
those countries, okay.
They'd love to put them all in jail and finish them all, but they
can't. So they have to find some one ethics. I'm hypocrites, some
weak willed scholars, as he said, bad apples, same exact thing in
our countries find some bad apples willing to compromise, willing to
give a ruling that's completely against everything that everybody
else knows. And have the nerve to come in with a turban and a beard
or a Koofi and a job and say, oh, here is the federal law and it's
doing nothing but serving your government. Okay. Is every nation
that wants to to stuck with real
Drink and doesn't want it has to find some bad apples to sign off.
They have to.
And that's what they do. When the people on the outside they say oh,
they just see a monolith.
The ignorant folk, they said, okay, the Mufti says, Hello. Yeah,
this is a Mufti who's bought and sold. It's not as there's not a
Mufti that's respected in the circles of knowledge. And then
from further out non Muslims, they say, oh, Saudi, they're coming to
bring Islam. I'm telling you if Saudi is the last people that you
have to worry about, they're not interested in at all, in the city
and in Islam, that leadership class, same who could say with
Egypt, Egypt, the CCE, he goes ballistic on one Islamic ruling
homosexuality.
It's one thing that you can agree on, he despises it. Other than
that, right? I don't think this is not someone who wants scholars
walking around teaching knowledge, you're not allowed to, if you're a
scholar, you're going to be watched, you're either going to be
one of those who are given him his loyalty. And you're going to say
what you what he wants to be said and stop where he wants to stop.
Or you're going to be monitored and checked. And life made
miserable and maybe even jailed. And the same used to go for Syria
was 10 times worse than Egypt. Egypt was the open country in
comparison to Assad, Syria, Syria. And his son is as we know it, his
son is
a complete destroyer of a nation.
And his father, half of the lesson was one of the bows very violent.
This guy's not even a Muslim. He's from another sect completely
outside of Islam, despising of the scholars, and there was only a
small period of time where the scholars had some peace in some
small areas of the city of the country. Iraq, Saddam Hussein,
same thing. Every single Muslim country, pretty much you can say,
used to be like that Turkey now opened up recently, Malaysia also
they have a lot of freedoms. Okay, so those are the only two
countries maybe you could say you could go there and live a good
free life as a practicing Muslim and do what you want other than
that, this live stream could never ever happen out of Cairo had been
shut down a long time ago. Either you're gonna be shut down or
you're going to meet with the
with the with intelligence and with this with whoever department
and they're going to make sure that you're loyal to them and
you're speaking their message. They're gonna stay in touch with
you to keep you on us on a tight leash.
So brothers and sisters, just come login. And thank you all very
much.
Wonderful stream. We will see you next week. Monday, remember
something else that we have? We're streaming next week. Then next
week? We're in ombre. So we're going to be off that week and
we'll be back in January in the lights Allah. Thank you all very
much.
Rob. Israel. David is also in the
what do they call that in the back? The back of the studio was
backstage. Thank you again very much. And hopefully we could talk.
We could talk again soon. I'm glad we're in touch. Thank you all very
much. Zachman was set up multicam Rahmatullah but it gets.
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