Shadee Elmasry – Islam & Japanese Society Professor Yamamoto (2) NBF 285

Shadee Elmasry
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The transcript is not a transcription or a reflection of historical facts, but rather a collection of sentences that appear unrelated and may not have been taken in their entirety. The speakers explore traditional Japanese tea ceremony, introducing culture to media, creating "immigrational identity" in shaping language, and creating "immigrational identity" in education. They also discuss the difficulties of finding Muslims in media and the need for creative expression in art.

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			some other reason maybe the
cousins are after us or something,
		
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			maybe enough. But anyway, let's
get straight back to our interview
		
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			in Java.
		
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			All right, sorry about that. So
the last question that asked
		
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			the political situation for
Muslims just meant I imagined my
		
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			guess. Muslims in Japan are an
ignored entity. They're not large
		
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			enough in number.
		
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			There's no history of some kind of
terrorism. For there to be a
		
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			them to be on the radar. Am I
right in assuming that the Muslims
		
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			in Japan are not on the radar?
Now, can you hear me? Yeah, I can
		
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			hear you're good to go. Okay. Yes,
I still so decently like Chris,
		
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			the statistics, but it is says
that seeing around like 200,000
		
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			Saudi Muslims living in Japan
right now.
		
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			But the majority majority was
observed foreignness, and usually
		
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			like temporary workers. And I
think the Japanese Muslims are
		
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			less than like, 10,000. Something
I use is really super, like a
		
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			minority case. So like, we don't
have really serious, like
		
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			prejudice against Muslim right
now. But yet, because of the
		
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			Israeli
		
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			Palestinian conflict,
		
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			there was like one like Japanese
like scholar, yeah, who keep
		
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			posting a really like textbooks
like definition, like anti
		
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			Islamophobic. Like tweets. Yeah.
And there. And also, like, there
		
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			is like a new political party in
Japan is names like Conservative
		
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			Party of Japan or something. Yeah,
it's like a far right things like
		
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			a political parties. And the, you
know, the follower of these
		
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			parties are starting to endorsing
like her, and on the internet
		
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			interface. Like, when I think that
day by day, and I can see the
		
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			Nordic,
		
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			like, Islamophobia is now like
forming in Jeff, in Japanese
		
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			society, I think.
		
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			So now, it's not indirect appeal
later, but I can clearly see the
		
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			universal Japanese now they are
not welcoming the Muslim in their
		
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			societies, like both like for like
for Muslims, and also the Japanese
		
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			Muslims. Okay. Future, I think we
will be like otherwise. And I
		
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			think eventually, like, we might
lose, like a place like live or,
		
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			okay. Now, when when they have
antagonistic views towards
		
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			Muslims, what's the what's the
basis,
		
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			basis and stuff that it's really
like, superficial, like
		
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			understanding that they are
estimating typical Islamophobic
		
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			things like, for example, the
Muslims know, they know how they
		
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			are not, they're not in
disagreement, like at dinner, how
		
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			to clean up the stories race, and
also the houses and the zoning.
		
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			And they will know, sure, it's the
Japanese cultures.
		
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			And, and because of the Disney, so
I personally war between Japan and
		
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			South Korea is it's not a fishery,
I think, especially if you're
		
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			neutral. But the in general in
Japan is the thing is high res
		
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			low.
		
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			So I think the most of Japanese
citizens, they think they're in
		
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			Hamas terrorists. And the people
who are showing the art of
		
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			empathy, that was the first thing
is also to consider a terrorist in
		
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			different societies.
		
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			So yeah, sure, you know, we're
having a little bit of hard times
		
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			right now. So essentially, they're
plugged into the, you know, the
		
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			global conversation of things. And
they have the same views as
		
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			basically any European country,
I'd say. Sounds like Yes.
		
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			How about Islam as
		
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			the law, the Sharia, what is your
perspective on the Sharia? So
		
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			every culture is going to have
different issues with the
		
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			shittier.
		
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			What would be your perception on
the show? Yeah, yeah. What would
		
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			be the single ruling? That is an
issue for them? Or is like a,
		
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			something that gets on on their
mind that they clashes with their
		
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			culture? I mean, in the West, it's
always the same thing. It's age of
		
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			Asia, right? It's not even a
ruling, but it's just something in
		
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			the Sierra.
		
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			I mean, not sure. But I just think
that most of Japanese they don't
		
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			they don't even know the word
Sharia. And so they didn't know
		
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			what the concept of like rule of
law in general, like not only by
		
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			rule of Islamic rule of law,
Secretary of law,
		
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			many people think that if like,
like, if like, like Islamic
		
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			Empire, but there is no Islamic
empire right now, that is
		
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			something concrete like Japan like
there will be no like freedom
		
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			speech and there will be no
freedom of like drinking alcohol,
		
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			or, you know, the freedom revision
sort of sense. But I think the
		
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			most important thing is that we
level it since I Muslims like when
		
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			I go back to Japan, and when I
have like a discussion
		
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			I like academic discussions or
like religious like dialogue. The
		
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			thing is is that you know many
people ask me like what is what
		
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			Islam is or what is like life for
Muslims but I think the most most
		
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			more important things can be like
what is actually they being human
		
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			in this like a secular like
estates especially in this theater
		
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			nation states was like gonna mean
people are comparing about a meme
		
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			you have like in the prejudice
like image about Islam like you
		
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			know there is no like limited
freedoms or these new freedom of
		
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			speech but with that money I have
a passport and a Japanese passport
		
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			and I'm sure they shave you also
have an American passport right
		
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			American Yeah.
		
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			But whatever the number or the you
know the country you can enter and
		
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			also the number of a country I can
enter is different
		
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			no Japanese passport is like one
of the strongest platform in the
		
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			world now it's like second or
third like surfing
		
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			and example like
		
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			I can enter Turkey like with a
visa, but if I want to travel to
		
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			Pakistan, I need to like apply for
the visa or if I wanted to make
		
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			such as the Muslim first thing you
know, I applied for the visa
		
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			like Saudi Arabia and
		
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			you also the same ladies as an
American citizens they these are
		
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			country you can you can visit with
you know the the country you have
		
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			to apply for the
		
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			logistics See, this is so against
the human rights or the equalities
		
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			of humanities. Yeah. Which is
defined by like Western
		
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			philosophy. Yeah. So like they is
like in actually like the
		
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			discount. There is like, we live
in such kind of hypocritical
		
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			societies, but I don't know why
people still like targeting
		
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			Muslims and Muslims, like
		
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			restriction.
		
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			This is actually the textbook
definition of an upward height.
		
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			But we're not fighting.
		
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			We don't think that this is like a
threat to the humanities. And I
		
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			believe that you know, the study
of Islam or like studying the
		
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			Sharia or that we're living as
Muslims is offer us like good
		
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			opportunities to rethink the what
kind of world we live in right
		
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			now. Yeah.
		
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			Even like for example, I Muslims,
I want to make cards and even
		
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			packs or even if I go to Saudi
Arabia, I need still I need to
		
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			have to carry like a passport
right? In passport me to buy like
		
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			a nation state like puja. But
according to Sharia, if there is
		
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			like, like a place called like,
the daughter of Islam, like I
		
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			don't have to carry a passport to
enter. Like, how am I? Yeah, yeah,
		
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			like, and even like, even if I was
like Christians, or like a Shinto
		
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			is like Buddhist. Like, I don't
have to ask like $1 like states to
		
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			issue like a password. Yeah. Like
it now you can ask like a Muslim
		
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			individual to issue like, Alana
and I'm not sure about in the
		
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			context was Hinduism Buddhism
because these like, like,
		
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			different opinions was still an
issue. I was a Christian. Yeah, I
		
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			guess individual to issue Amana
and I can be like a Muslim and
		
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			yeah, to stay in the place of
Islam.
		
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			So in this sense, so many people
have like, so what I want to say
		
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			is that many people have like, so
called like, shall HP image but
		
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			Sharia is against the humanities.
But first, you must understand,
		
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			you know, this, like secular like
a nation state is the typical
		
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			explain
		
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			the humanities like this, like
this is what I'm trying to say,
		
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			talk in front of the normal
standard, like the Japanese
		
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			audiences, like problem is not
about our
		
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			misunderstanding about Muslims, or
misunderstanding about Islam or
		
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			our like low literacy about Islam.
It's, like, our major problem is
		
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			that we don't know what kind of
world we live in. Yeah. So it
		
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			sounds to me that the Japanese
mental background, intellectual
		
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			background is purely a Western
background, whatever happened to
		
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			the old the original Japanese
culture, be that Taoist or Shinto,
		
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			Louis or your or what have you?
		
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			I think, I think you're right.
Especially in the field of
		
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			academia is or the I think, we
academicians are heavily
		
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			influenced by the like wisdom like
a paradigm.
		
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			But also in the same time, if you
look at the more practical aspects
		
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			of the Japanese society, they are
like lots of like, beautiful
		
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			traditional Japanese culture still
remain. And so the they are also
		
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			lots of reasons to Japanese
Muslims are not, not Japanese, if
		
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			we're trying to preserve the
beautiful Japanese cultures. For
		
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			example, I myself is the students.
I'm sorry.
		
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			of the Japanese tea ceremony, the
Japanese like tea ceremony.
		
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			So this Japanese tea ceremony in
Japanese because Sado tea ceremony
		
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			is one of the oldest Japanese
culture Yeah, it started like in
		
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			500 or 600 years ago. And it is
Dr. So, if you say English like a
		
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			Japanese tea ceremony, it sounds
like you know, like a tea party.
		
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			But this the tea ceremony is the
OG It's the method for the Alex
		
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			spiritual education
		
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			in traditional Japanese society,
so, when we are preparing the T
		
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			you we we will learn how to show
respect to like a Masters Yeah,
		
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			and also how to show respect to
the other guests. And so, when we
		
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			are taking care of taking care of
the t use and toes you know, we
		
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			know they how beautifully they can
design the odd creature in this
		
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			world. So in this way, like in the
we will try to learn the idea of
		
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			balance between the Macro Cosmos
and the micro cosmos. And there
		
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			are some lean in the Muslims who
is incredible I am organizing this
		
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			tea ceremony workshop into Turkey
or the other like Muslim
		
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			communities in the UK, or even in
Japan on the other side wasn't
		
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			really criticizing me that I'm
doing like a bit of art or
		
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			because like these tea ceremony
culture, culture is not from the
		
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			Islamic civilizations and also the
world needs a very surprising
		
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			start you know this there are some
people who will criticize me that
		
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			I'm wearing this Japanese kimono
		
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			that there are some there are some
people who actually thought that
		
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			guy has if he didn't have that
intention, but he just like in
		
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			respect he advised me Don't try to
wear like a coffee pros they will
		
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			close the infidels
		
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			but first of all this distribution
Japanese chemo like this is not
		
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			like you know, special like secret
like clothes for like a priest or
		
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			like in like a Buddhist or Shinto
study. This is just like ordinary
		
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			like a daily clothes. Which we are
wearing that before the month is
		
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			one of those Yeah, I mean even
even until they get 60s or 70s
		
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			It's still Japanese are wearing
this Japanese and, and also like
		
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			shape. Do you know what this inner
chemo is called? What the
		
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			commandos called? Yeah. In their
in your chemo
		
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			in there now what is this
innocuous code Jubal Jubal Jabba
		
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			Jabba Yeah, Juba story and claimed
that it this Jubal yeah
		
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			originally it was for us I didn't
but
		
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			we got this in the clothes is
actually that you came from like I
		
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			different Portuguese like
immersion somewhere and they some
		
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			someone who bring this Juba from
the Islamic world.
		
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			So actually that I am not wearing
the Catholic clothes that I am
		
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			wearing that Islamic clothes. wish
her good inspiration so Islamic
		
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			Relations Yeah. So it is very
important like when you're
		
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			engaging with it like a normal
thing communities like in Japan or
		
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			Korea or even America.
		
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			We must not judge their culture.
		
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			Like without like sincere like
evaluation. Yeah.
		
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			They even might be like even it's
not like Islamic. So these like in
		
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			the word which is coined by this
famous historian like Masha Huson
		
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			especially the word like Islamic
and Islamically and Islam is like
		
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			very limited to the like don't
dogmatic aspect of Islam, like
		
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			Colombia, rocky does or Africa but
it is satanic it is more like a
		
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			cultural, like a manifestation of
the Islamic values and which is
		
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			shared by both Muslim and non
Muslims. So even though for
		
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			example, the Japanese culture is
not Islamic, because we don't have
		
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			like, you know, direct interaction
with a civilization but there are
		
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			some Islamic kid like traces that
even in Japanese culture and this
		
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			keyboard is one good example.
Yeah. And the kimono essentially
		
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			is a robe with a belt. Oh yes.
Like this is like it is yeah. No
		
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			and also that I used to wear this
though. Yeah.
		
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			You know the Persians
		
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			the Persians used to have these
big belts
		
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			he used to wear them on there so
well big said well with a big belt
		
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			like this like it's almost a sash
right big belt across and then
		
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			they put the job on top of that so
I mean it's not so far off yes.
		
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			Now I personally believe this I
can chemo No it's actually really
		
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			suitable for for Muslims. Yeah.
According the other without like,
		
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			I can also wear like a Western
suits.
		
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			But that which can be like a more
Islamic
		
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			Because of when I wear suits when
I'm teaching university you know
		
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			my suits the shows my body line.
Yeah, something is so tight. But
		
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			this kimono like it comes with my
body lines and also the color is
		
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			really decent. And even the inner
chemo is called like a gym Japan
		
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			is a jumper you know, Japanese
like a virgin.
		
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			Yeah. And
		
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			so I believe that if, if we study
like Japanese culture really
		
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			deeply actually the good Japanese
most now not only Japanese
		
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			listening but even like normals in
Germany as well. Like if we can
		
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			imagine, like, like a new color,
or like the Islamic civilization
		
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			we should call like a Japanese
like Islamic culture, like at
		
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			least as my aim for the past like
two or three years. I think it's
		
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			important for every indigenous
		
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			culture, the where Islam is new,
for people to recognize what's the
		
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			baseline, the minimal minimum
viable product to be a Muslim to
		
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			be a pious Muslim in this culture.
So make as few cultural changes as
		
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			possible. And to have a the
scholars of Teddy in Yemen, they
		
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			always say they promote this while
simultaneously promoting that
		
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			certain number of scholars should
preserve the Sunnah as much as
		
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			possible, close to what the
prophet exactly war, so people
		
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			could have a clue. But for the
common folk, there should be a
		
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			sense of, Well, what is the very
least that I have to do? Because
		
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			if everyone dressed like that,
then a common person would confuse
		
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			what's custom, from what sunnah
from what's obligatory as Oh, this
		
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			Islam is just too much. There's
too much I got to do here, I can't
		
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			wear a have a beard down to hear
and dress up and all this ethnic
		
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			clothes, it's not my culture. So
when we had early on Maliki click,
		
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			right, the that we had that
discussion to
		
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			Brandon from the Muslim cowboy
does that too, where he actually
		
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			he wears a cowboy hat, right? What
they're trying to show is what is
		
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			the minimum that a Muslim needs,
right, and the minimum being is
		
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			that your clothes isn't tight,
that's an obligation your skin,
		
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			your lines shouldn't be showing,
and it should be cover your outer,
		
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			right? So that's the same thing
that you seem to be doing is
		
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			showing what is the bare minimum
that a person has to do to enter
		
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			into Islam? And when a number of
Muslims dress in a certain thing,
		
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			it becomes Islamic in a sense, it
becomes part of the the the the
		
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			the big patchwork of Muslim
culture so to speak. Oh, yes, I
		
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			believe so. And also the I even
further believe that, you know, is
		
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			that only Islam? can offer
directly reason. To the Japanese
		
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			to preserve the Japanese cultures?
Yeah, yeah. Because we're living
		
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			in the modern societies. Without
like,
		
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			which one is more efficient, or
even like reasonable like in going
		
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			to like Zara or aka I don't know,
I can name specific company.
		
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			Which one is my face and going to
the Zara and by the reasonable
		
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			price, like a shirt, or, like
buying this for traditional, like
		
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			a Japanese kimono, which like, at
least like cost, like 200, or 300,
		
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			towards the UI, a new one, of
course, like, I'm sure like 99%
		
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			with the modern like, sacred
Japanese will go to like in the
		
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			modern,
		
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			modern, like fashion.
		
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			But the if you are looking
Muslims, and if you are looking,
		
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			they believe in AlDub. Now, if you
believe in the importance of like
		
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			a cover in the hour, then that I
think Islam will give you the
		
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			reason the reason this job
		
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			is done is only Islam can
understand this beauty of your
		
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			job, the practicing disclosures,
and I want to say something else
		
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			that
		
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			Islam comes to mind, the feelings
of the people around you. Right.
		
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			And that's why the concept of art
if you could talk a lot about all
		
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			of his customs. So when you're
trying to bring something to
		
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			somebody, and you have parents
family that are Muslim, that are
		
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			not Muslim, and you try to bring
them Islam, it's wiser for you to
		
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			preserve all of that they that is
acceptable. And the audit is not
		
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			carte blanche on there is audit
that is acceptable. There are
		
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			customers that are acceptable and
customers that are more often
		
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			Moldova accustomed that is
unacceptable, right. And so and
		
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			that's how a Muslim would live,
right where you want to imagine
		
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			someone who's dropped into Japan,
China, Oklahoma, and Texas, they
		
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			enter Islam. Now you're going to
start offending them by wearing a
		
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			turban and everything like what is
your point? Isn't your point to
		
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			bring this matter closer to them?
Or
		
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			Is it to be tough and offend them?
So that's part of it's not part of
		
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			the Sharia is what are the
priorities here? And so
		
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			preservation of custom and order
is part of it does have a place in
		
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			our religion. It's one of the more
subjective and flexible ones, but
		
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			it is part of our deen. Now,
speaking of Dawa, in Japan, how
		
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			much does a person need to know
about ancient Japanese beliefs?
		
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			And could you tell us a little bit
about the Shinto culture, beliefs?
		
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			temperament, things like that, if
someone was to go do Dawa in
		
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			Japan, like, What even is that?
What is the shin to philosophy?
		
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			Like, meaningful for asking this
question to like,
		
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			what would be like best? So how
can we understand, like a Japanese
		
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			revision to make like a proper
like a double bar. But I think
		
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			that would be also like an
important thing
		
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			to
		
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			explain Islam to the Japanese
audiences. But
		
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			again, you know, I always remember
this, how do you like to have this
		
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			in our country to Korean and I
personally, I personally interpret
		
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			this as the we have to understand
in a context, we have to
		
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			understand the environment that
Japanese modern Japanese people we
		
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			live in. And in most of the
Japanese people, like Indonesian
		
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			doesn't matter anymore.
		
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			Until they are, there are still
believes in something. But they
		
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			are not.
		
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			They are leaving,
		
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			in regularly systematic manner.
And also, I think, example. I'm
		
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			also like, free in visiting the
UK, or France or Germany's. And
		
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			also, I visit this quite a few
times in America as well. But I
		
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			think in the European culture,
		
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			this like making like a
metaphysical argument, is really
		
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			important. When it comes to
regulation, we example like, you
		
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			know, they are I saw they saw
many, like videos, or like
		
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			podcasts on a youtube program that
you know, the Muslims, these are
		
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			the Muslim preacher, and also the
Christian like a priest and who
		
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			are trying to give a debating,
which is like a crack belief.
		
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			But I think they do in some like,
as like Japanese. The first is,
		
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			like, it sounds like so like the
Western cultures who try to like
		
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			debate something, especially,
especially about a metaphysical,
		
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			like, it's things that we got.
		
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			And I remember that when I was
reading the classical tasawwuf
		
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			book,
		
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			there's like two ways to reach the
Haqiqa The one is like, nuzzled
		
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			in descending, and another ways
like rouge, like ascending and
		
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			this like, he knows what it means,
like more like, like a
		
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			metaphysical, like reasoning, that
how, you know, the one pure,
		
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			like, existence, you know, Allah
had created the whole universe and
		
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			creatures, dislike all which is
another practical aspect, that
		
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			what kind of a practice that we
can do to like a sense no, to
		
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			reach like a Malefor. You know,
like it modified or to, like taste
		
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			like a Tauheed to experience the
sense of like a total heat. And
		
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			when it comes to the, you know,
Japanese or like, not like New
		
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			Zealand people is more like orange
people. They want to know, what is
		
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			the practice of Islam? Like, what
is the beauty of practicing Islam?
		
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			Because like, when the no matter
how you try to talk about the
		
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			oneness of the god, I Tao, heat or
Allah? Or do you like a new blu
		
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			ray prophecy?
		
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			I think it might not be so
convincing to them. You don't like
		
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			it? This is not our culture. It's
just a theory to them. Yes, it
		
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			just only rain as a theory. But if
we talk about like the Huda Beauty
		
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			of like pains occurred, or, like,
how the Muslims are practicing,
		
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			like fasting, like some enduring
Ramadan's, or, that if I show the
		
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			visual image by in hunch, then,
you know, the people they gathered
		
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			in one place, like Africans, or
with Asians, or like a Caucasians,
		
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			like in all kinds of place, and to
feel the, you know, the Arctic
		
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			solidarity, so communities, like
Japanese people are more
		
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			influenced by, you know, the kind
of practical work aspect. So
		
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			that's, that's a good point. And I
think that's, I would say that's,
		
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			that's almost universal,
		
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			regular people, you're good,
they're gonna make a change if
		
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			they see other regular people
living better than them. Right.
		
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			And the problems that they have
are not shared by the you know,
		
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			there are solutions to those
problems with that other group. So
		
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			that leads me to a simple
question. Hypothetically, I'm a
		
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			guy who's got a business trip in
Tokyo, Japan.
		
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			Where do I go to get a sense of
community I could put my hotel
		
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			room next to their go, you know,
from I could have been Asia and
		
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			talk to some people have a sense
of community what is one of the
		
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			stronger communities and Muslims
in Tokyo
		
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			In Tokyo, these the masjid called
Tokyo jammy jam is Masjid in
		
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			Turkey in Turkey Sandwich. Like it
is like you know I don't think
		
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			it's directly run by the Turkish
region so first but still like
		
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			associated with the Turkish
Ministry or the Regis in Turkey
		
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			is these like Turkish Imam is he's
really sincere and also
		
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			now this Tokyo Jami is not only
famous or like a masjid, it became
		
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			like one of the most like popular
like a touristic place in Tokyo
		
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			right now. So every week, I think
more than hundreds, you know,
		
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			hundreds of people are visiting
Tokyo Jami and every week. And
		
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			almost every week there is the,
the ceremony of the conversion,
		
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			like, the Japanese are converting
Islam in Tokyo. So if we go to the
		
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			Turkish army, that you can see the
big communities. And what is more
		
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			grateful about this Tokyo's army
is that if you build a Turkish
		
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			army, that you can meet like
assault somebody or second
		
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			generation Muslims, like second
generation, Japanese Muslims, I
		
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			can remember the iron from you
know, some of the Japanese
		
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			Japanese, but right now we have
like Pakistani Pakistani like
		
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			Japanese Muslims, like Indonesian
Japanese Muslims, what an
		
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			Indonesian who was born and raised
in Japan,
		
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			or the golden Malaysia of nice
Muslims, or the Palestinian like
		
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			Japanese Muslims, or the Egyptian
Japanese mostly, I mean, I do.
		
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			Like they are the creating, like a
new generations, like a day of the
		
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			future of the Japanese
communities. Because right now, in
		
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			general,
		
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			the population is like declining
in Japan.
		
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			And we're not getting married. And
we aren't having babies. But I
		
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			think the only like Muslim crazy
is like you're worried because I
		
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			was I was a Christian before we
become Muslims. Yeah.
		
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			I think the average age of the
Christian community in Japan is
		
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			like, over 65 years old. Like is
it like it's become an older
		
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			communities like is only becoming
like a religion for the I don't
		
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			know, the
		
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			like a household something. But I
don't believe anything that the
		
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			Muslim community is the is the
fastest growing community in
		
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			Japan. But still, I can see it in
the Muslim community in Japan is
		
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			the youngest, like inclusion
committee in Japan. And the
		
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			beautiful things I read recently,
you could buy a house in some of
		
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			the suburbs for $25,000, because
the population is just dropping so
		
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			badly. Oh, yes. Like the I think
many like Japanese like youth or
		
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			they get moved into the big
cities. Yeah. Not very many like
		
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			into diversions in a small small
towns and becoming like a ghost
		
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			town in Japan. That's insane. The
idea that some maternity wards
		
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			have shut down and sent their
nurses to a central maternity
		
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			ward, right?
		
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			Because there are no there. There
was one hospital days, they
		
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			recorded that there was on average
of birth a week.
		
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			So they're like, What, what's How
do what why do we have a ward?
		
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			Right? So they combined four
hospitals. They all went to the
		
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			biggest Ward, right? And everyone
who wants to have a baby in Tokyo
		
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			or in this town would just go to
that word. Right? With that
		
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			hospital, you might have to drive
a little bit, but that's only one
		
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			you have to you can go to. So it's
insane how that population is
		
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			dipping so badly in Japan. I think
that that's probably its biggest
		
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			crisis going forward right. Now,
yes, I think the client, yeah,
		
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			this is a humanitarian crisis. So
this is why I'm saying I can
		
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			afford Japanese. Like,
		
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			they don't have to understand
Islam, they first they have to
		
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			understand what kind of problem
they're facing in Japanese
		
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			communities. Yeah. Then we read
Japanese can say that Islam can be
		
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			like, like your life giving, like
force work, life giving energy for
		
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			the Japanese societies, that in
terms of like a cultures in terms
		
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			of societies and in terms of
politics. This is what I keep
		
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			saying, Yeah. And it's amazing how
humans problem has gone back down
		
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			to like, the most basic problem of
just existing. Right. And it's
		
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			almost like we gouged ourselves
with selfishness. I mean, the
		
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			science and tech did so well to
give people good life in certain
		
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			countries, that people can't stand
the idea of directing attention to
		
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			others. I mean, we have now the
concept of dinks. Right? You know,
		
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			that Dinkus or, yeah, you guys
know what a dink is? dual income,
		
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			no kids, boyfriend and a
girlfriend, right? Both have it,
		
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			they got a dual income, and
they've decided no kits, right? So
		
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			that they could just do whatever
they want. And so the culture is
		
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			you become you. You're indulging
to the point that you cannot even
		
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			share your time. It pains you to
share your time with a kid and you
		
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			still have a problem. If you have
one kid. Two kids, you still have
		
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			a problem because you're not
growing at that point. And what is
		
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			it that may
		
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			Japan, you know, be is really
Japan is one of the leaders in
		
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			population decline. What's this?
What's the source? What's the
		
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			reason? I seem to be the same
reason America I think some people
		
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			think that this is having baby,
it's just like, they're basically
		
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			they're losing their minds. Yeah.
And so they have to enjoy life and
		
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			they think you're the babies of
Turin. So they get obstacles or
		
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			for the happiness. Yeah.
		
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			So I think the word problems have
been is more than culture is like
		
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			in the day, we like more than
people, we always tend to stay in
		
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			like a comfortable zone. Yeah. But
especially when you study about
		
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			the Notasulga or the Islamic
culture is actually not only the
		
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			Islamic culture, but also the
traditional Japanese culture as
		
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			well. Like, the culture, they help
us to get out from the comfort
		
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			zone
		
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			to get opportunity to become like
a major. Yeah. And what I see like
		
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			in a modern Japanese society, the
I feel, I strongly feel that now
		
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			the less and less people are your
major, and more and more people
		
00:31:01 --> 00:31:04
			are like claiming their rights.
You know, they're claiming the how
		
00:31:04 --> 00:31:08
			the crack they are, how they're,
like strong they are, they're
		
00:31:08 --> 00:31:12
			always trying to prove something.
Yeah. But no, I'm in Istanbul and
		
00:31:12 --> 00:31:17
			what's missing and what needs to
be touched that you know, or they
		
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			see our tech get, you know, Zarya,
you know, Sophie launches in
		
00:31:21 --> 00:31:25
			buscador you know, Asian side of
Istanbul is called Uzbek Cadet
		
00:31:25 --> 00:31:27
			tech essay that was recommended by
Casey in order to dissolve the
		
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			articles Wikia okay you know the
SOFIA not just for interviews with
		
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			people you know, they're coming to
they stumble, when they go into
		
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			the hutch, you know, they're
resting a few lucky masters and
		
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			then you go into your mind. And
still, you know, this was Becker
		
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			taxi is run by Dr. Muslim
medication or I could work with
		
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			and when I entered this vegan
advocacy, there is one famous like
		
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			Islamic calligraphy. You see the
kitsch? You know, hitch, hitch
		
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			means Persian and also the Turkish
but it means I get nothing.
		
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			And I asked, you know, the person
we're working in this is bacteria
		
00:32:02 --> 00:32:05
			tech. So you like it? What are the
what is the purpose of hanging
		
00:32:05 --> 00:32:08
			dissident Islamic calligraphy on
the wall? Sophie Logis? And He
		
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			answered me that in this is the
aim of the spiritual education of
		
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			Islam.
		
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			The immoral education that we
always try to prove something that
		
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			we tried to become like someone,
though, we're trying to produce
		
00:32:22 --> 00:32:26
			like something. Yeah. But in
traditional agriculture, it's
		
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			like, the weird, we are taking
this education to become like a
		
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			nice thing. We're embracing the
weird nothings.
		
00:32:34 --> 00:32:38
			And this, like in the decline of
the population, and that's
		
00:32:38 --> 00:32:43
			ridiculous. Related to this, as
well, that, that now the more
		
00:32:43 --> 00:32:48
			people who try to prove something,
or try to make them makes them
		
00:32:48 --> 00:32:51
			unhappy. So that's why they think
they need all the environment that
		
00:32:51 --> 00:32:55
			like the obstacle, their
happiness, yeah. But in the end,
		
00:32:55 --> 00:32:58
			you know, the ultimate aim, the
humanity is like, in the we, why
		
00:32:58 --> 00:33:01
			we're living right now, to pass
to,
		
00:33:03 --> 00:33:08
			to transmit, you know, knowledge
of the Prophet Muhammad Sallallahu
		
00:33:08 --> 00:33:10
			wasallam. Listen to the next
generation, you know, we are just
		
00:33:10 --> 00:33:14
			like a vehicle. Yeah. Like, if we
don't make it, if we don't, we
		
00:33:14 --> 00:33:17
			cannot get married, if we don't
make the insurance or the if we're
		
00:33:17 --> 00:33:22
			not investing on the younger
generation, then the our community
		
00:33:22 --> 00:33:26
			that will disappear, you'll
disappear. And yeah, I like to put
		
00:33:26 --> 00:33:31
			it like this. Your you have your
own life. You only have your own
		
00:33:31 --> 00:33:35
			life, thanks to other people who
are not selfish. So there is a
		
00:33:35 --> 00:33:39
			percentage, I don't know what the
percentage is 1/3, maybe one
		
00:33:39 --> 00:33:45
			quarter, one half, where you owe,
you owe it to the community
		
00:33:46 --> 00:33:51
			at large, to think about the
future to advance this, this thing
		
00:33:51 --> 00:33:56
			called human beings and Muslims on
top of that. And the way to do
		
00:33:56 --> 00:33:59
			that is by prioritizing your
family over your career, nobody
		
00:33:59 --> 00:34:03
			says i Hey, well, some of the
things do. Most people say,
		
00:34:04 --> 00:34:09
			most people say, Well, I gotta my
career is so important. I help so
		
00:34:09 --> 00:34:11
			many people in my career, right?
		
00:34:12 --> 00:34:14
			Very few people say no, I don't
want to have kids because I want
		
00:34:14 --> 00:34:18
			to indulge, most people will
justify it to themselves. So I got
		
00:34:18 --> 00:34:21
			a very important career. I got a
very important year coming up. And
		
00:34:21 --> 00:34:25
			they keep postponing marriage. So
career ism, the way I look at it,
		
00:34:25 --> 00:34:29
			it's the biggest enemy to family
is career ism. Like, you know, I
		
00:34:29 --> 00:34:33
			can't imagine what I would have
done. All of us can say the same
		
00:34:33 --> 00:34:34
			thing. What would I have done?
		
00:34:35 --> 00:34:38
			If I didn't have to have a family?
And I could work
		
00:34:39 --> 00:34:43
			12 hours a day, seven days a week?
What kind of career would we all
		
00:34:43 --> 00:34:47
			have? Yeah, but you'd also be very
miserable to write. And what kind
		
00:34:47 --> 00:34:50
			of old age would you have? What
kind of middle of life would you
		
00:34:50 --> 00:34:53
			have? Right? So we don't think
about that. On top of that we
		
00:34:53 --> 00:34:57
			don't that's all about ourselves.
Imagine then, the whole community.
		
00:34:57 --> 00:34:59
			If we all did that, what kind of
community would we have?
		
00:35:00 --> 00:35:04
			If we'd have empty masajid, right,
we'd have no community left. So
		
00:35:04 --> 00:35:05
			everyone's got to realize that
		
00:35:07 --> 00:35:09
			career is the enemy of family.
		
00:35:10 --> 00:35:13
			And I, the way I look at it both
got men and women have to take
		
00:35:13 --> 00:35:16
			that but women have ticket even
more, right? Because they are the
		
00:35:16 --> 00:35:20
			physical bearers of children, and
they have a bigger obstacle. So
		
00:35:20 --> 00:35:24
			they have to have a greater belief
that having a family is more
		
00:35:24 --> 00:35:26
			important than having a career.
Guys have to have that because
		
00:35:26 --> 00:35:29
			when they don't raise their kids
or kids turn out wrong, you might
		
00:35:29 --> 00:35:32
			you might as well have had not
have kids with a guy doesn't raise
		
00:35:32 --> 00:35:35
			his son. More important than
raising his daughter, in my
		
00:35:35 --> 00:35:40
			opinion. But in any event, I now
like to ask you a question that
		
00:35:40 --> 00:35:44
			when a young Japanese Muslim comes
up to you said just converted to
		
00:35:44 --> 00:35:50
			Islam, I need to make a YouTube
playlist of Japanese lectures Who
		
00:35:50 --> 00:35:51
			do you give them?
		
00:35:52 --> 00:35:55
			Japanese lectures? Yeah, I need I
need my Japanese
		
00:35:57 --> 00:36:03
			playlist of lectures of talks of
classes.
		
00:36:04 --> 00:36:07
			All the Japanese who is the
scholar out there the day even if
		
00:36:07 --> 00:36:11
			he's not a scholar, but he's a day
a person of Dawa and Imam who's
		
00:36:11 --> 00:36:12
			out there.
		
00:36:13 --> 00:36:13
			Speaking
		
00:36:15 --> 00:36:18
			they also like famously Japanese
like a dog who is out with a
		
00:36:18 --> 00:36:22
			shaved arm at the minute he's
working you know, very close to
		
00:36:22 --> 00:36:27
			Tokyo and he is reinvesting on
your child education but I'm not
		
00:36:27 --> 00:36:30
			sure that he has the he's
uploading in his lecture on the
		
00:36:30 --> 00:36:34
			YouTube video but in general for
example dialogue in Istanbul you
		
00:36:34 --> 00:36:37
			know, I have more than five
Japanese Muslim students like
		
00:36:38 --> 00:36:41
			whenever I found you know, the
Japanese Muslims or having kind of
		
00:36:42 --> 00:36:45
			challenges in Japan I always
encourage them to you know, come
		
00:36:45 --> 00:36:48
			to the Muslim countries whatever
they know I'm based in Istanbul so
		
00:36:48 --> 00:36:52
			you know, I am encouraging my
students to come they stumble in a
		
00:36:52 --> 00:36:54
			state like one or two years to
study like this times.
		
00:36:56 --> 00:36:59
			But what if they don't speak
Arabic? They only speak Japanese.
		
00:36:59 --> 00:37:02
			No, thanks speak Japanese and
Turkish and fossa you know this
		
00:37:02 --> 00:37:07
			this study was ours well, and the
reason and the reason for this
		
00:37:07 --> 00:37:11
			start that we have now if you if
you ask to take stock on YouTube
		
00:37:11 --> 00:37:15
			that you can you can watch like
millions of YouTube videos or
		
00:37:15 --> 00:37:18
			lectures about Islam but it
		
00:37:19 --> 00:37:24
			in Turkish these words like these
words are sofabed in our in Arabic
		
00:37:24 --> 00:37:29
			because yeah, I thought that it
means like companionship it means
		
00:37:29 --> 00:37:34
			like being together and we must
not forget that your Islam is not
		
00:37:34 --> 00:37:37
			like a digital like the content
that you can download from the
		
00:37:37 --> 00:37:39
			internet and you can once you
install it you can become a
		
00:37:39 --> 00:37:42
			perfect listener something Yeah,
like the living as a Muslim no
		
00:37:42 --> 00:37:46
			process. Process Yeah, we can all
learn Islam
		
00:37:48 --> 00:37:54
			through Okay, so you can reduce
the image of your humanity who's
		
00:37:54 --> 00:37:56
			to talk about you know, the
Islamic practice or the showing
		
00:37:57 --> 00:37:59
			current practices and Muslim they,
you need to learn they can
		
00:38:00 --> 00:38:04
			learn like Islam through like
fragile.
		
00:38:06 --> 00:38:12
			Like human or imperfect like
human. The who are also trying to
		
00:38:12 --> 00:38:16
			seek the past of Islam. Yeah, this
is connected mastership and
		
00:38:16 --> 00:38:20
			discipleship. The message if you
disagree with me, like have you
		
00:38:20 --> 00:38:22
			ever watched like new Star Wars?
Like so seven excellent apes
		
00:38:22 --> 00:38:23
			annoy.
		
00:38:24 --> 00:38:28
			The new series of Star Wars? No.
What is that again? Sagan? Star
		
00:38:28 --> 00:38:34
			Wars new series of style. Oh, Star
Wars? No, I saw a couple of the
		
00:38:34 --> 00:38:37
			movies like The Last Movie that
they ever that they said this is
		
00:38:37 --> 00:38:40
			the last one. I did see that one.
Yep. Okay, so you know, I am a big
		
00:38:40 --> 00:38:43
			fan of Star Wars. So I watched him
from the episode one to Episode
		
00:38:43 --> 00:38:44
			Nine.
		
00:38:45 --> 00:38:48
			These are probably one of a new
series of Star Wars like I liked
		
00:38:48 --> 00:38:50
			the old series, but if the new
servers really disappointed,
		
00:38:50 --> 00:38:54
			because these is like these a
protagonist school array, yeah, in
		
00:38:54 --> 00:38:58
			a female, like the protagonist,
the characters, and
		
00:38:59 --> 00:39:03
			in episode eight, you know, I was
hoping that she will become the
		
00:39:03 --> 00:39:07
			Jedi. You know, this is kind of
like a traditional like, if, like
		
00:39:07 --> 00:39:11
			a fighter. Yeah. Who, who? Who
have like lightsaber and derisive
		
00:39:11 --> 00:39:13
			like, boom, boom, yes.
		
00:39:14 --> 00:39:16
			So, so I was hoping that you know,
she will
		
00:39:18 --> 00:39:24
			have she will find her own like a
master to start like a training.
		
00:39:24 --> 00:39:27
			Yeah. And in episode eight, there
was a character called Luke
		
00:39:27 --> 00:39:30
			Skywalker, and he's like the
legendary, like a character in the
		
00:39:30 --> 00:39:35
			old series. And I hope that he
will become the master. But in the
		
00:39:35 --> 00:39:39
			end, he didn't teach anything to
disagree with female protagonists.
		
00:39:39 --> 00:39:45
			But yet, she became suddenly the
strongest like a Jedi in the
		
00:39:45 --> 00:39:48
			history of Star Wars series.
That's that.
		
00:39:49 --> 00:39:54
			Yeah, millennials interpret that
this is like a reflection of the
		
00:39:54 --> 00:39:56
			identity Identity Politics,
Politics. Yeah. Western
		
00:39:56 --> 00:39:59
			agriculture that you define
yourself as like the best thing
		
00:40:00 --> 00:40:03
			You can become like a best. Yeah.
And I think, you know, they are
		
00:40:03 --> 00:40:06
			like integral even we Muslim, do
we have this kind of a tendency
		
00:40:06 --> 00:40:09
			that we are infected, you know,
kind of identity politics? We
		
00:40:09 --> 00:40:12
			don't know, you know? Yeah. So
that if you have like a correct
		
00:40:12 --> 00:40:16
			book, that if we x in the correct
videos, and if you're watching
		
00:40:16 --> 00:40:19
			like a record lectures, and then
we can become like, right like,
		
00:40:19 --> 00:40:25
			right Muslims Yeah, it's not like
we are also the imperfect human
		
00:40:25 --> 00:40:28
			beings that we will make a
millions of mistake in our life
		
00:40:28 --> 00:40:33
			and also the and but if we only
accessing socolor The 100% Like a
		
00:40:33 --> 00:40:37
			correct knowledge about Islam,
like we don't know how to rebuild
		
00:40:37 --> 00:40:40
			ourselves when we make mistakes.
And this is what we see in the
		
00:40:40 --> 00:40:43
			young Japanese Muslim corneas.
Well, I can think of, for example,
		
00:40:43 --> 00:40:47
			they are some hardship, and that
they couldn't like they they
		
00:40:47 --> 00:40:51
			didn't like make prayer for they
have to end up like drinking
		
00:40:51 --> 00:40:54
			alcohol because these like
pressure from societies, and then
		
00:40:54 --> 00:40:57
			when they make a good nearly
missed even a tiny bit of a
		
00:40:57 --> 00:40:59
			mistake, you know, they will
become depressed and they will
		
00:40:59 --> 00:41:02
			leave it to community. But
actually, it's not like the
		
00:41:02 --> 00:41:05
			everything that you have made.
They are not only the beautiful
		
00:41:05 --> 00:41:09
			things that even the ugly thing
that this might be could be like a
		
00:41:09 --> 00:41:10
			lesson
		
00:41:11 --> 00:41:14
			to become like a better like the
Muslims. Only you can make it a
		
00:41:14 --> 00:41:19
			good Tober Yeah, but you can you
will never run this like this,
		
00:41:19 --> 00:41:24
			like the hope spiritual like
journey will be Muslim just
		
00:41:24 --> 00:41:28
			accessing like a data that you
need your own like sensor in
		
00:41:28 --> 00:41:30
			Japanese we call the master
Sensei, you know, give Master?
		
00:41:31 --> 00:41:34
			Yeah. So the while we haven't we
haven't had to restore that isn't
		
00:41:34 --> 00:41:37
			Muslim communities, not only
Muslim, agree and Japanese society
		
00:41:37 --> 00:41:40
			is the existence of the
Mastership. Also like a
		
00:41:40 --> 00:41:45
			discipleship? Yeah. So I totally
agree, that's one of the biggest
		
00:41:45 --> 00:41:51
			problems with the new generation
is the lack of sub. Like there's
		
00:41:51 --> 00:41:54
			no sub. And there's no culture of
this. So they need to see their
		
00:41:54 --> 00:41:57
			parents doing that. Right. They
need to see their parents honoring
		
00:41:57 --> 00:42:03
			somebody and accepting their
tutelage over the span of decades.
		
00:42:04 --> 00:42:09
			And in order to realize that, to
believe that and what I think one
		
00:42:09 --> 00:42:13
			of the reasons behind this is that
the nature of the world, today's a
		
00:42:13 --> 00:42:19
			world of tech, tech, science and
tech, it, it prizes, innovation,
		
00:42:19 --> 00:42:24
			and rightfully so. Right. So going
back and mimicking, you know, the
		
00:42:24 --> 00:42:27
			Internet of the past, or the
software code of the past is
		
00:42:27 --> 00:42:31
			useless. You need to go innovate,
people then take that ethic, and
		
00:42:31 --> 00:42:35
			then apply it where it doesn't
belong, such as anything that has
		
00:42:35 --> 00:42:38
			to do with transmission or
expertise. Both of those things,
		
00:42:38 --> 00:42:44
			they just require years of dog Id
almost boring repetition of the
		
00:42:44 --> 00:42:48
			same thing. Right. And that's why
I think in the modern era, people
		
00:42:48 --> 00:42:53
			have a hard time with the idea of
anything taking a long time.
		
00:42:54 --> 00:42:57
			Right? If everything they want
seven minute abs, everything he
		
00:42:57 --> 00:43:00
			wants, people don't want to put in
the time, and the effort and the
		
00:43:00 --> 00:43:04
			humility. So that's something that
you have to you have to go uphill
		
00:43:05 --> 00:43:09
			in fighting that battle. Yes. So
that's why they're coming back to
		
00:43:09 --> 00:43:11
			your questions. Like, you know,
I'm always encouraging the
		
00:43:11 --> 00:43:14
			Japanese when they asked me that,
what is the best lectures? Or what
		
00:43:14 --> 00:43:18
			is the best book that I saw? Yeah,
the first you have to take your
		
00:43:18 --> 00:43:22
			time. Do find out which ones are
the best books for you.
		
00:43:23 --> 00:43:24
			Because
		
00:43:26 --> 00:43:30
			people always expecting like a
clear answer of something. Yeah.
		
00:43:31 --> 00:43:34
			But maybe like in that way, you
can order some like books away
		
00:43:34 --> 00:43:38
			Slovenia, Amazon, and you will
read it. And maybe you find out
		
00:43:38 --> 00:43:41
			that it's not like helpful for
you. But this India, this is also
		
00:43:41 --> 00:43:45
			good experiences. Yeah, this shows
that not every person knows about
		
00:43:45 --> 00:43:49
			Islam, and there is something
books, which is not useful for
		
00:43:49 --> 00:43:52
			them. But maybe that books might
be useful for the other people.
		
00:43:52 --> 00:43:56
			Yeah. And I think it is now right
now in modern societies, the more
		
00:43:56 --> 00:44:01
			and more people even including me,
like we are less. I mean, as you
		
00:44:01 --> 00:44:05
			said that we are losing the
suburbs. Yeah, to accept, you
		
00:44:05 --> 00:44:08
			know, the, the complexity of the
humanity and the complexities of
		
00:44:08 --> 00:44:12
			like, even like Norwich as well.
Because I'm like, I'm sure you
		
00:44:12 --> 00:44:12
			also have
		
00:44:14 --> 00:44:17
			even when you start a service or
different project, yeah.
		
00:44:18 --> 00:44:22
			I did my PhD in Kyoto University,
but and also I'm working on the
		
00:44:22 --> 00:44:25
			university but you know, the
syllabus like university syllabus
		
00:44:25 --> 00:44:29
			system syllabus, yeah. If you read
the syllabus, right now, I don't
		
00:44:29 --> 00:44:32
			know that these are huge festival
in university that we have to
		
00:44:32 --> 00:44:36
			write the so details about the
lecture or the the courses Yeah,
		
00:44:36 --> 00:44:38
			that not only about the name of
the courses was that we have to
		
00:44:38 --> 00:44:42
			write an aim of the courses and
also the we have to write the
		
00:44:42 --> 00:44:45
			outcome of the courses that you're
doing right now. We have to like
		
00:44:45 --> 00:44:50
			guarantee the outcome that what
outcome that you know, the student
		
00:44:50 --> 00:44:53
			can get if they take this course
without the lecture about Middle
		
00:44:53 --> 00:44:57
			Eastern, the introduction to like
Middle Eastern studies or
		
00:44:57 --> 00:44:59
			introduction to like Islamic
studies.
		
00:45:00 --> 00:45:03
			They teach you how to write the,
you know, the in the outcome, then
		
00:45:04 --> 00:45:08
			they after taking this course the
students can get, like a firm like
		
00:45:08 --> 00:45:11
			knowledge about, like Islamic
studies or Middle Eastern Studies.
		
00:45:12 --> 00:45:15
			I mean, it's impossible. Yeah. I
mean, it's
		
00:45:16 --> 00:45:18
			like a good international
restaurant taking the courses, but
		
00:45:18 --> 00:45:22
			some people may or may not. And we
this is so based on, like, recent
		
00:45:22 --> 00:45:25
			professional, like, more like
superficial like engineering
		
00:45:25 --> 00:45:28
			mindsets. Yeah. Like the, if you
write down the code, they know
		
00:45:28 --> 00:45:32
			that he's in the end, and then
human can work like a machine.
		
00:45:32 --> 00:45:36
			Yeah, there's gonna bargain. But
it's not like, maybe when they
		
00:45:36 --> 00:45:41
			take the course, maybe it not be
the hippo at that time, then maybe
		
00:45:41 --> 00:45:44
			in 20 years, or 30 years or 40
years or even look at dust, dust
		
00:45:44 --> 00:45:48
			very many before they die. Maybe
they will find out some kind of
		
00:45:48 --> 00:45:52
			modified with that you don't know
the what kind of knowledge can be
		
00:45:52 --> 00:45:58
			helpful, helpful for the human
force or his or her life. And
		
00:45:58 --> 00:45:59
			that's where
		
00:46:01 --> 00:46:05
			that's where sometimes the best
education is go hang out with that
		
00:46:05 --> 00:46:09
			guy. Apprenticeships, what is an
apprenticeship? Oh, this guy knows
		
00:46:09 --> 00:46:13
			how to run this kind of a
business. There's no syllabus, the
		
00:46:13 --> 00:46:16
			syllabus says hang out with him,
spend time with him on the job,
		
00:46:16 --> 00:46:20
			and observe, DO what He tells you
to do. You'll go up the ranks
		
00:46:20 --> 00:46:22
			until he earns your trust and
gives you bigger responsibilities.
		
00:46:23 --> 00:46:26
			Those apprenticeships and your Do
you remember Theranos?
		
00:46:28 --> 00:46:30
			Did you hear in Turkey about the
whole Theranos scandal.
		
00:46:31 --> 00:46:37
			Tara's Theranos is essentially a
company that had hundreds of
		
00:46:37 --> 00:46:42
			millions of dollars of investment,
and claimed that with a drop of
		
00:46:42 --> 00:46:45
			your blood, they can do like 35
blood tests,
		
00:46:47 --> 00:46:51
			right with one drop of your blood,
something like that. And that they
		
00:46:51 --> 00:46:54
			have some kind of a device. And
that device will churn out the
		
00:46:54 --> 00:46:59
			results of like multiple,
multiple, multiple blood tests,
		
00:46:59 --> 00:47:02
			instead of you having to go take
multiple shots.
		
00:47:03 --> 00:47:07
			Now, here's the amazing part. The
amazing part is that the
		
00:47:07 --> 00:47:10
			journalist, is a medical
journalist and medical Tech Tech
		
00:47:10 --> 00:47:15
			journalist who figured out that
she was a fraud and the founder
		
00:47:15 --> 00:47:19
			was a fraud. She never had any
such device. It was a theory in
		
00:47:19 --> 00:47:24
			her head. She collected the money.
And she even started getting into
		
00:47:24 --> 00:47:28
			the business, but she would take a
drip of Java blood, then send it
		
00:47:28 --> 00:47:31
			to traditional labs, and then give
people the result because she
		
00:47:31 --> 00:47:36
			never had a machine. So here's the
amazing thing about how Elizabeth
		
00:47:36 --> 00:47:39
			Holmes, thank you for chocolate
Well, what
		
00:47:40 --> 00:47:45
			was uncovered to be a fraud. The
guy said that in tech,
		
00:47:47 --> 00:47:48
			the innovators are always young.
		
00:47:49 --> 00:47:53
			They're not entrenched, they're
able to think outside the box. But
		
00:47:53 --> 00:47:56
			in the medical fields, because
there are human lives at stake.
		
00:47:57 --> 00:48:02
			There's higher risk innovators of,
of anything new in the medical
		
00:48:02 --> 00:48:05
			field, tend to be in their 40s and
50s.
		
00:48:06 --> 00:48:10
			Right, that's when they earn
trust. And that's when they were
		
00:48:10 --> 00:48:14
			able to give something back to
society. Because it's risky.
		
00:48:14 --> 00:48:17
			Whereas there's no risk in an app
with app doesn't work. No one, no
		
00:48:17 --> 00:48:23
			one, no one died, right? So he was
like, Oh, she's way too young. How
		
00:48:23 --> 00:48:28
			is she in the innovating in the
medical world? Right at that young
		
00:48:28 --> 00:48:32
			age. And that's when he started to
actually start prodding and asking
		
00:48:32 --> 00:48:35
			questions, and you could see a
whole bunch of documentaries on
		
00:48:35 --> 00:48:38
			Elizabeth Holmes and Theranos and
the fraud that she committed. So
		
00:48:38 --> 00:48:42
			that goes back to what you said,
is that, like, what was your name?
		
00:48:42 --> 00:48:44
			Ray? Whoever was
		
00:48:45 --> 00:48:45
			your name?
		
00:48:47 --> 00:48:51
			Yeah, whoever that Jedi the Jedi
girl was, is that she becomes the
		
00:48:51 --> 00:48:56
			greatest Jedi without putting in a
minute of labor. There are no
		
00:48:56 --> 00:49:01
			years of waiting of work. Right?
And that's a scam. You're scamming
		
00:49:01 --> 00:49:06
			the the viewers, you're scamming
people into imagining that great
		
00:49:06 --> 00:49:10
			results can come out of no work.
Right? And that just doesn't exist
		
00:49:10 --> 00:49:15
			in the world. Right? And all that
came into the question like of
		
00:49:15 --> 00:49:20
			what you said, on there isn't
there may not be a quick YouTube
		
00:49:20 --> 00:49:23
			list. But that's not how Islam was
practice. Islam was practiced by
		
00:49:23 --> 00:49:29
			living with people with Muslims
over the years. And slowly
		
00:49:29 --> 00:49:35
			marinating. Right. And your bad
qualities come out one at a time
		
00:49:35 --> 00:49:39
			in the presence of those people.
I'd like to turn it now to the
		
00:49:39 --> 00:49:40
			audience on YouTube.
		
00:49:43 --> 00:49:46
			What questions do you have for
Professor Yamamoto has given us
		
00:49:46 --> 00:49:50
			from His precious time? It's now
evening they're in Turkey. It's
		
00:49:50 --> 00:49:52
			probably past Maghrib time.
		
00:49:53 --> 00:50:00
			10pm Oh, so let's see. Oh, let's
take two or three questions from
		
00:50:00 --> 00:50:05
			more audience here. Alright first
one is there a concept of Sn or
		
00:50:05 --> 00:50:11
			spirituality in the original
Japanese culture C says Yes I
		
00:50:11 --> 00:50:15
			think so. I mean it's not like
completely like Simon a stone
		
00:50:15 --> 00:50:18
			because in your concert is so
closely related to the song itself
		
00:50:19 --> 00:50:19
			but
		
00:50:23 --> 00:50:23
			you know
		
00:50:25 --> 00:50:29
			not it's not about a son but
basically like a strong like a
		
00:50:29 --> 00:50:33
			word I reinforced while reading
the book you know Cadabra for tuba
		
00:50:33 --> 00:50:36
			and when I'm translating the
scorpion in Japanese is the word
		
00:50:36 --> 00:50:41
			codec ether the ether it means
like altruism, like the like
		
00:50:41 --> 00:50:47
			sacrifice yourself for the others
generosity, yeah generosity and
		
00:50:47 --> 00:50:50
			especially you know, disallow
altruism. And that was once the
		
00:50:50 --> 00:50:55
			most important like philosophy was
a HELOC like a Japanese culture.
		
00:50:56 --> 00:51:01
			But now you know we are like, like
we have lost and this is you know,
		
00:51:01 --> 00:51:03
			one of the reason why have
translate you know this Nina
		
00:51:03 --> 00:51:05
			Islamic classics to be German
		
00:51:07 --> 00:51:11
			Intertek Japanese languages like
you know this job like Islamic
		
00:51:11 --> 00:51:14
			correct terminology so a lot of
Islamic terminology and also
		
00:51:14 --> 00:51:19
			Islamic values that might give
like a new option like opportunity
		
00:51:20 --> 00:51:23
			for like Japanese radio to
remember the you know, our like,
		
00:51:23 --> 00:51:26
			beautiful, I guess relation like
If Sun might be there also an
		
00:51:26 --> 00:51:31
			option, maybe the one and also the
ether, and also the, the beauty or
		
00:51:31 --> 00:51:35
			like a Toba in repentance. And
when it comes to if son
		
00:51:37 --> 00:51:38
			I mean, I'm sorry, is really off
the topic
		
00:51:40 --> 00:51:43
			instead of you know, just talking
about Islam or is talking about
		
00:51:43 --> 00:51:47
			you know, the faith, but I'm also
trying to introduce new Japanese
		
00:51:47 --> 00:51:49
			audiences like what kind of
creativity
		
00:51:51 --> 00:51:54
			that you know, we Japanese Muslim
can offer do you mean jumping to
		
00:51:55 --> 00:51:59
			the Japanese authorities? And I
personally I interpret like this
		
00:51:59 --> 00:52:04
			is my end of the exam, you know,
as an IV in the Muslims like, I am
		
00:52:04 --> 00:52:09
			designing support like Japanese
islamicate like art and
		
00:52:09 --> 00:52:14
			handicraft. And this morning I
have new I have designed so it can
		
00:52:14 --> 00:52:17
			see this Yeah. Oh, that was you.
		
00:52:19 --> 00:52:25
			I grew up this is the a Japanese
translation of the Estrada Fatiha
		
00:52:25 --> 00:52:30
			in the Quran. Someone sent me that
this morning is that I use the
		
00:52:30 --> 00:52:33
			traditional like a Japanese like
handwriting like calligraphy.
		
00:52:33 --> 00:52:37
			Yeah, bring it over a little bit
more. I guess. I guess other side
		
00:52:37 --> 00:52:40
			yeah, there we go. Perfect.
Perfect. Well, it's beautiful.
		
00:52:40 --> 00:52:45
			Very beautiful. And when I design
this like the I'm really convinced
		
00:52:45 --> 00:52:49
			like I don't see any without that
there are some like far right
		
00:52:49 --> 00:52:51
			wingers like Japanese studies
saying that we need Japanese
		
00:52:51 --> 00:52:55
			muslims or muslims for a Muslim
they're bringing some kind of
		
00:52:55 --> 00:53:00
			like, impure, like a contamination
to the Japanese societies. Like
		
00:53:00 --> 00:53:03
			they're trying to destroy, you
know, they are like a beauty of
		
00:53:03 --> 00:53:08
			the Japanese cultures. But when
I'm designing this the I see some
		
00:53:08 --> 00:53:09
			kind of beautiful harmony
		
00:53:10 --> 00:53:16
			isn't like a beautiful harmony of
the Japanese culture. And Islamic
		
00:53:16 --> 00:53:19
			like a culture or Islamic
spiritualities Yeah.
		
00:53:21 --> 00:53:24
			And not only handwriting's but of
		
00:53:27 --> 00:53:32
			so I'm assuming tea ceremony so I
am designing Soco islamicate like
		
00:53:32 --> 00:53:35
			tea salmon use and toasts and
things is
		
00:53:38 --> 00:53:44
			this is a Turkish saying. Yeah,
yeah. Who like ndpr who this is
		
00:53:44 --> 00:53:47
			like Turkish like a calligraphy?
Yeah, it isn't like this. Yeah,
		
00:53:47 --> 00:53:51
			who is it's about a lot. And yeah,
it's like a calling upon you
		
00:53:51 --> 00:53:56
			invoke invocation. Like he means
like, you you're asking Allah to
		
00:53:56 --> 00:54:03
			like a gift like add up to
humanities. And and this is the i
		
00:54:03 --> 00:54:06
			i am working with the traditional
like a Japanese artisan
		
00:54:07 --> 00:54:12
			to design distribution or a
handicraft because now you know
		
00:54:12 --> 00:54:14
			less than this Japanese people
they're buying traditional
		
00:54:14 --> 00:54:19
			Japanese handicraft Yeah, they're
doing like furniture from Ikea or
		
00:54:19 --> 00:54:23
			somewhere like before somewhere
from like shopping mall. But
		
00:54:25 --> 00:54:30
			and also the even some not all not
only Japanese when Muslim or it
		
00:54:30 --> 00:54:33
			isn't me that why is spending so
much money on creating the
		
00:54:33 --> 00:54:37
			handicrafts and handicrafts?
Because there's there's more like
		
00:54:37 --> 00:54:42
			reasonable prices, handicrafts or
so in a shopping mall. But I'm
		
00:54:42 --> 00:54:45
			telling those people like which
one is more like Islamic or which
		
00:54:45 --> 00:54:50
			one is more like Muslim like way
of living? Yeah. By your mass
		
00:54:50 --> 00:54:55
			produced like handicraft in from
shopping mall or like visiting
		
00:54:56 --> 00:54:59
			like a traditional Japanese autism
and explaining the East
		
00:55:00 --> 00:55:04
			Me spirituality and how much I
respect in Japanese culture as the
		
00:55:04 --> 00:55:08
			Japanese citizen and designing
this in a traditional handicraft
		
00:55:08 --> 00:55:13
			which is inspired by Islamic
spirituality. And using this this
		
00:55:13 --> 00:55:15
			use and also a carefree whatever
they
		
00:55:16 --> 00:55:19
			I think a lot of these are like
more like Muslim like way of
		
00:55:19 --> 00:55:19
			living
		
00:55:21 --> 00:55:25
			like a way of living, it's more
holistic that way, I guess. And in
		
00:55:25 --> 00:55:29
			this way, like it might be it
might not have like big impact.
		
00:55:29 --> 00:55:36
			But I think at least I'm quite
sure that this Japanese artisan
		
00:55:36 --> 00:55:38
			who are working with me have
		
00:55:39 --> 00:55:43
			the opportunity to digest history
spiritualities
		
00:55:44 --> 00:55:45
			by design is handy if
		
00:55:46 --> 00:55:51
			you're watching like Islamic like
YouTube channels, or like Tiktok
		
00:55:51 --> 00:55:54
			videos because this is about
experiences Yeah.
		
00:55:55 --> 00:55:57
			So the record is Sunday.
		
00:55:58 --> 00:56:02
			I rather say that Japanese don't
know much about it constantly sign
		
00:56:02 --> 00:56:03
			it's not
		
00:56:04 --> 00:56:08
			about Islam. And so I'm not sure
we have like correct like crack
		
00:56:08 --> 00:56:12
			corresponding with a word in
Japanese culture. But if Japanese
		
00:56:12 --> 00:56:17
			can can embrace the beauty of
Epson then you know they can
		
00:56:17 --> 00:56:20
			produce like more beautiful things
for the Japanese societies.
		
00:56:22 --> 00:56:23
			Someone is asking here now
		
00:56:25 --> 00:56:29
			this Japanese tea ceremony does it
take place in someone's home?
		
00:56:30 --> 00:56:34
			You invite people to them like how
does it work? Exactly. Oh this
		
00:56:34 --> 00:56:37
			Japanese is actually like if you
invited me to wherever living in
		
00:56:38 --> 00:56:41
			New Jersey and uses if somebody
invited me to New Jersey I can
		
00:56:41 --> 00:56:45
			also do tea ceremony for you. Okay
good. So it usually is done at
		
00:56:45 --> 00:56:48
			home or either the traditional
like a tea room
		
00:56:50 --> 00:56:53
			but these program about like
ordinary like Japanese tea
		
00:56:53 --> 00:56:54
			ceremony
		
00:56:55 --> 00:56:58
			it's not a problem but this like
Japanese tea ceremony like
		
00:56:58 --> 00:57:01
			contemporary Japanese tea ceremony
is like heavily influenced by
		
00:57:01 --> 00:57:05
			symbolism. So like days for
example, it stays like hanging
		
00:57:05 --> 00:57:06
			scroll
		
00:57:07 --> 00:57:10
			hang on the wall they usually like
that that hanging
		
00:57:12 --> 00:57:16
			hanging Squall you can see like a
calligraphy which is based on exam
		
00:57:16 --> 00:57:20
			but isn't philosophy and so this
is one of the reason why some new
		
00:57:20 --> 00:57:22
			some of the Japanese parents they
hesitate
		
00:57:23 --> 00:57:28
			to send your kids to the like in
Japanese T seminar classes. So
		
00:57:31 --> 00:57:34
			that's why like I personally I
have a really sincere like a
		
00:57:34 --> 00:57:38
			master if we understand your
sensibilities in the future you
		
00:57:38 --> 00:57:42
			know, I want to design a
traditional like a tea room. But
		
00:57:42 --> 00:57:46
			we should take a design for a good
Muslims or tea room to design to
		
00:57:46 --> 00:57:50
			introduce like Islamic disagree
charities. So what I'm organizing
		
00:57:50 --> 00:57:54
			this my Japanese tea ceremony,
like a workshop, and I'm not using
		
00:57:54 --> 00:57:58
			an exam but somehow new scores and
I was only using like handicraft
		
00:57:58 --> 00:58:02
			which have come like it only Sami
like elements, but instead of it I
		
00:58:02 --> 00:58:07
			personally like designing this
also. This hanging score is I have
		
00:58:07 --> 00:58:12
			designed this hanging score
measure now I like I'm an I
		
00:58:13 --> 00:58:17
			and I have handy things were on
the wall for this disharmony. And
		
00:58:17 --> 00:58:22
			this flower is called Keegan BANA
Hagen burner. He got me off camera
		
00:58:23 --> 00:58:27
			and Burnham is a flower is a
flower of the afterlife. So in the
		
00:58:27 --> 00:58:29
			past in Japanese and when they see
you know this flower, they always
		
00:58:29 --> 00:58:33
			like memorize they always
remembering about the afterlife in
		
00:58:33 --> 00:58:38
			Buddhism, but I personally
reinterpret reinterpret this
		
00:58:38 --> 00:58:43
			flower that we Muslim We Japanese
Muslim like we can remember about
		
00:58:43 --> 00:58:47
			you know, Islamic like Astra Yeah,
like when we want when we are like
		
00:58:47 --> 00:58:50
			in the DC and this flower so
that's why I write down this
		
00:58:50 --> 00:58:56
			Arabic calligraphy the RDF and in
my interpretation is RF RF like
		
00:58:57 --> 00:58:59
			the implies like Allah Allah.
		
00:59:00 --> 00:59:03
			So, this is how you know this. I
personally call this project as
		
00:59:03 --> 00:59:08
			semantic reconstruction like
semantic reconstruction. So even
		
00:59:08 --> 00:59:11
			though we are living in a non
Muslim countries, and even aware
		
00:59:11 --> 00:59:15
			we are surrounded by so called
seemingly non Islamic context,
		
00:59:15 --> 00:59:18
			like we can bring the new
interpretation
		
00:59:19 --> 00:59:23
			to like the Japanese cultures. And
this is what actually like Malay
		
00:59:23 --> 00:59:26
			Muslims and in raising Muslims
also Chinese Muslim did
		
00:59:28 --> 00:59:29
			resemble like these, like
		
00:59:32 --> 00:59:36
			do you know the word? The book
called Hunter Hunter? Never heard
		
00:59:36 --> 00:59:39
			of it? No. Oh, hunky. Dory is
probably a chain in homies
		
00:59:39 --> 00:59:44
			Chinese. And the Kitab means Kitab
This is another beautiful thing
		
00:59:44 --> 00:59:46
			about Islamic civilization like
whenever you go if these Muslim
		
00:59:46 --> 00:59:49
			communities the book is always
caught up
		
00:59:50 --> 00:59:53
			with culture, especially Islamic
books, we live in China In China
		
00:59:53 --> 00:59:57
			as well. The Islamic book is
cooked up in the Malay or
		
00:59:57 --> 00:59:59
			Indonesia is in the Islamic stop
in Turkey.
		
01:00:00 --> 01:00:03
			The book basically book is called
kitab. So I think in American
		
01:00:03 --> 01:00:06
			Muslim communities that you can
also use the word dub lingual
		
01:00:06 --> 01:00:10
			Islamic classics, like you can,
you can use this as like, you
		
01:00:10 --> 01:00:14
			know, English terms. Yeah, this
hanky dubs means like Islamic
		
01:00:14 --> 01:00:20
			classic book written. In fact
Chinese characters. So hum is
		
01:00:20 --> 01:00:25
			Chinese and determines book oh I
see okay. Okay. And when you when
		
01:00:25 --> 01:00:30
			we observe this book, they are
some like vocabulary or
		
01:00:30 --> 01:00:34
			terminologies which is used by the
confusion ism, or like a
		
01:00:34 --> 01:00:38
			Buddhism's. And some, like
researchers say saying this is
		
01:00:38 --> 01:00:43
			like historical like evidence that
how like Chinese Muslim and try to
		
01:00:43 --> 01:00:48
			integrate, like a Confucian mystic
or Taoist or Buddhism, like
		
01:00:48 --> 01:00:52
			worldview and Islam. But
personally, I don't believe I
		
01:00:52 --> 01:00:55
			don't believe that correct. That
interpretation. You know, I
		
01:00:55 --> 01:00:59
			personally think that this is
actually the process of semantic
		
01:00:59 --> 01:01:03
			reconstruction. So even though
they borrow this word, the way
		
01:01:03 --> 01:01:07
			Muslim use this, they Oh, they,
they have put the Islamic like
		
01:01:07 --> 01:01:08
			meaning to it.
		
01:01:09 --> 01:01:13
			So this is born with the format,
but content is always a stomach.
		
01:01:13 --> 01:01:17
			So there's a huge difference
between compromising with the
		
01:01:17 --> 01:01:22
			other regions. And as they bring
the new creativity. Yeah. And
		
01:01:22 --> 01:01:26
			bending with terminology is all
over culture. Yeah. If it was
		
01:01:26 --> 01:01:29
			otherwise, you wouldn't go and
find the ethnic, even the
		
01:01:29 --> 01:01:31
			scholarly clothes of every
		
01:01:32 --> 01:01:37
			nationality is different. So yes,
in Africa, the island scholar will
		
01:01:37 --> 01:01:40
			be wearing different clothes in
West Africa than North Africa,
		
01:01:40 --> 01:01:46
			than East Africa than Yemen, than
Iraq, then Indonesia and Malaysia.
		
01:01:46 --> 01:01:52
			So that's why what we have is a
deal that has roots, and then a
		
01:01:52 --> 01:01:55
			very strong trunk, that doesn't
move, but then you have branches
		
01:01:55 --> 01:01:56
			that sway
		
01:01:57 --> 01:01:59
			that sway back and forth. And
that's the flexibility, the
		
01:01:59 --> 01:02:03
			balance between where we're
flexible, and encourage movement,
		
01:02:04 --> 01:02:08
			and where what is inflexible and
immovable and should never change?
		
01:02:09 --> 01:02:13
			Yes. And also, even I, you know,
I'm a bit of a bit arrogant, but I
		
01:02:13 --> 01:02:19
			think, you know, my mighty summary
workshop is one of the most
		
01:02:19 --> 01:02:21
			creative, like a Japanese culture.
		
01:02:23 --> 01:02:28
			Because I put the Islamic
interpretation in it. And what do
		
01:02:28 --> 01:02:32
			people do when they go? Sorry, I
didn't trip What did they do when
		
01:02:32 --> 01:02:36
			they go to this tea ceremony? So
in this case, I mean, so, right
		
01:02:36 --> 01:02:38
			now, most of the Japanese like
practitioner tea ceremony, you
		
01:02:38 --> 01:02:39
			know, the
		
01:02:41 --> 01:02:45
			authority, they are sincerely
studying about the etiquette of
		
01:02:45 --> 01:02:48
			the Japanese, the tea ceremony,
how they serve and how they
		
01:02:48 --> 01:02:52
			prepare, you know, green tea, and
how they tried to show respect to
		
01:02:52 --> 01:02:53
			your guests.
		
01:02:54 --> 01:02:54
			But
		
01:02:56 --> 01:02:59
			you know, since it's already
established, like a cultures like
		
01:03:00 --> 01:03:03
			the East know, like new creativity
needed in the JSR repeating limit
		
01:03:03 --> 01:03:07
			routine, and I still yet I
strongly respect no disabilities
		
01:03:07 --> 01:03:12
			among cultures. But if we look at
the history of disharmony in early
		
01:03:12 --> 01:03:13
			periodicities, harmony,
		
01:03:14 --> 01:03:18
			there was also like a tea ceremony
inspired by feminism, but also
		
01:03:18 --> 01:03:21
			there was a Christian t 72. Like a
Catholic.
		
01:03:22 --> 01:03:25
			In the 15th century, in the 60s,
as were in Germany, society, you
		
01:03:25 --> 01:03:30
			know, there was the Japanese,
Christian, Caucasian and they were
		
01:03:30 --> 01:03:34
			like Samurai, like Lord, who had
converted to Christianity, they
		
01:03:34 --> 01:03:37
			were called a Christian, a
Christian daimyo just in diamonds.
		
01:03:38 --> 01:03:44
			And they were like, practicing is
t 72. Like, contemplate the
		
01:03:44 --> 01:03:47
			spiritual, the Christianity's and
there was also tea ceremony for
		
01:03:47 --> 01:03:52
			the merchant and also the the
ceremony for or summarize. So,
		
01:03:52 --> 01:03:55
			there was like a diversity party.
So T 70 itself is just like a
		
01:03:55 --> 01:03:59
			format like iPhone. So Indian this
is like just like technologies.
		
01:03:59 --> 01:04:05
			Yeah, what is the important thing
is that now what we will do by
		
01:04:05 --> 01:04:09
			using this like technologies, so
like mighty 70 Is that you know,
		
01:04:09 --> 01:04:12
			also in is introducing the
		
01:04:13 --> 01:04:17
			like an advocate and also the
speech varieties, the tea
		
01:04:17 --> 01:04:23
			ceremony, but I am also an N same
time by using this T reg T
		
01:04:23 --> 01:04:28
			container, or by like, you know,
or through the showing this occurs
		
01:04:28 --> 01:04:32
			if you you know, I'm trying to
introduce, like islamicate like
		
01:04:32 --> 01:04:33
			spiritualities
		
01:04:34 --> 01:04:35
			arts.
		
01:04:36 --> 01:04:41
			This is the characteristic
Almighty samedi like a workshop.
		
01:04:41 --> 01:04:44
			Now, when I go to the tea
ceremony, I'm like a guest
		
01:04:44 --> 01:04:46
			essentially, I sit down and then
		
01:04:47 --> 01:04:51
			I'm a guest, I start receiving,
you know, the tea and then is
		
01:04:51 --> 01:04:53
			there something like something
else?
		
01:04:54 --> 01:04:57
			I should read it's really
difficult to explain with words,
		
01:04:57 --> 01:04:59
			but you know, there is the one
video shop
		
01:05:00 --> 01:05:04
			By the blogging theory in the
YouTube channel, yeah. And I show
		
01:05:04 --> 01:05:04
			you know the
		
01:05:05 --> 01:05:09
			boosters for Williams. They did my
tea ceremony. Oh, okay.
		
01:05:10 --> 01:05:13
			So if they some of the interesting
tea ceremony you can go like tea
		
01:05:13 --> 01:05:17
			ceremony, blog MCRD Nokia moto any
you can see or maybe you can just
		
01:05:17 --> 01:05:21
			Google like Nokia moto tea
ceremony Islam? Oh, no, no
		
01:05:24 --> 01:05:26
			we're running out of time but I
didn't ask one of the very
		
01:05:26 --> 01:05:29
			important questions that I know
some people really wanted me to
		
01:05:29 --> 01:05:30
			ask. Okay
		
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			the Japanese cartoons
		
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			there so remind me animate
		
01:05:41 --> 01:05:44
			they're so influential and I still
cannot get my head around
		
01:05:46 --> 01:05:51
			how they get such a cult
following. Right Why enemy versus
		
01:05:52 --> 01:05:54
			anything else? And secondly,
		
01:05:56 --> 01:05:58
			there are some people that try to
use anime
		
01:05:59 --> 01:06:00
			as a form of Dawa.
		
01:06:02 --> 01:06:05
			Like Sahibs company is all about
that. So
		
01:06:06 --> 01:06:11
			could you mind expanding on
exactly what's going on with the
		
01:06:11 --> 01:06:14
			poll? Why is enemies such a pull?
Why does it have such a pull?
		
01:06:16 --> 01:06:20
			First of all, yeah, I must say I'm
huge, like otaku anime, you know,
		
01:06:20 --> 01:06:22
			I mean, without cause like, I
mean, if your narrative and your
		
01:06:22 --> 01:06:25
			Japanese anime I have already
watched, at least at least, like
		
01:06:25 --> 01:06:29
			once, how many Japanese animes and
also, I read the millions of the
		
01:06:29 --> 01:06:30
			Japanese manga.
		
01:06:32 --> 01:06:36
			And I haven't noticed and yet
there are so many Muslims. And not
		
01:06:36 --> 01:06:40
			only that, I mean, not only Muslim
in the US, in the US, or in
		
01:06:40 --> 01:06:45
			Europe, there are lots of the the
Muslim fans of anime in a Muslim
		
01:06:45 --> 01:06:50
			country as well, within the
integrity as well. And at first,
		
01:06:50 --> 01:06:54
			like, for example, the first time
I came to do it, he was like 13
		
01:06:54 --> 01:06:58
			years ago. And I'm so surprised
that you know, I was studying in
		
01:06:58 --> 01:07:02
			the traditional Muslim Education
Institute. And we are studying now
		
01:07:02 --> 01:07:06
			and sort of yeah, that we are
memorizing new NASA NASA law
		
01:07:06 --> 01:07:07
			certain thing that
		
01:07:08 --> 01:07:13
			I have. I have noticed that you
know, all of my old classmates
		
01:07:13 --> 01:07:16
			they're watching Naruto, you know,
Japanese anime Japanese like Ninja
		
01:07:16 --> 01:07:21
			anime. Yeah. So the people who are
studying this traditional like
		
01:07:21 --> 01:07:25
			balloon is like sighs and is it
same type a huge fan of Japanese
		
01:07:25 --> 01:07:29
			enemies? Yeah. And I asked my
classmate and, you know, because I
		
01:07:29 --> 01:07:32
			was so shocked because like this
traditional like a ton about Iran.
		
01:07:33 --> 01:07:37
			And, and, and it made eye contact
because like, I thought they had
		
01:07:37 --> 01:07:41
			these two different like, separate
like entities worlds. Yeah. Yes.
		
01:07:42 --> 01:07:45
			But I asked them why they're
watching like a decent Japanese
		
01:07:45 --> 01:07:48
			anime, especially Naruto. And one
of our friends like said to me
		
01:07:48 --> 01:07:53
			very interesting things that when
they watch the American movies, or
		
01:07:53 --> 01:07:55
			the American TV series,
		
01:07:56 --> 01:07:58
			they become very uncomfortable.
		
01:07:59 --> 01:08:01
			Because in American TV series, or
anyway,
		
01:08:03 --> 01:08:09
			or the movies, there was always
like identity politics. Yeah. It's
		
01:08:09 --> 01:08:12
			like they always try to define
themselves. Like, for example, in
		
01:08:12 --> 01:08:14
			Star Wars about you know, this
way, you know, she's always
		
01:08:14 --> 01:08:19
			defined herself. Or even more in a
Marvel hero comic series as well.
		
01:08:19 --> 01:08:22
			Like in the URI there is no scene
training. These will mastership
		
01:08:22 --> 01:08:25
			and discipleship. It what is seen
that if they define ourselves, we
		
01:08:25 --> 01:08:27
			query now they can become the
strongest in character.
		
01:08:30 --> 01:08:34
			Like Marvel was already those
things, but in Japanese anime or
		
01:08:34 --> 01:08:35
			manga,
		
01:08:36 --> 01:08:42
			this identity politics is not an
important topic. Yeah. What de
		
01:08:42 --> 01:08:46
			emphasizes on is when somebody's
anemic, or demon slayer, or the
		
01:08:46 --> 01:08:49
			Judas Dickerson's, or the other
enemies like they have especially
		
01:08:49 --> 01:08:53
			what they emphasize in training,
like Rick defines themselves
		
01:08:54 --> 01:08:58
			like tarbiyah I see so there's
enough anger that's good when
		
01:08:58 --> 01:09:01
			they're trying to train themselves
in a day always study with their
		
01:09:01 --> 01:09:05
			masters you know, Sensei, you
know, the *.
		
01:09:06 --> 01:09:07
			So, Mike,
		
01:09:08 --> 01:09:12
			if you analyze you know, the or
the structure of the Japanese or
		
01:09:12 --> 01:09:15
			the manga you know, there are some
like a common like message so
		
01:09:15 --> 01:09:19
			islamicate message This is
Islamic, but you know, the Islamic
		
01:09:19 --> 01:09:23
			you know, the common like values
like between the Islamic Islamic
		
01:09:23 --> 01:09:26
			spirituality and also like
Japanese cultures
		
01:09:27 --> 01:09:31
			and about you know, about you
know, the other possibilities or
		
01:09:31 --> 01:09:36
			potential of the introduce or
using this manga as a medium to
		
01:09:37 --> 01:09:42
			introduce like Islam did audiences
or whatever there are some like
		
01:09:43 --> 01:09:44
			there are some
		
01:09:48 --> 01:09:51
			people there who are you who are
creating dislike, so what
		
01:09:51 --> 01:09:54
			islamicate only meant was, I think
there was one company in Saudi
		
01:09:54 --> 01:09:58
			Arabia, they created only Mako the
journey. Yeah, I think there is
		
01:09:58 --> 01:10:00
			only is about the unit battle or
the
		
01:10:00 --> 01:10:01
			fear you know about Earth.
		
01:10:02 --> 01:10:05
			And I personally, whether I
		
01:10:06 --> 01:10:11
			also believed in this manga or
using visual image can be, like
		
01:10:11 --> 01:10:18
			whatever the option to introduce
Islam, not only not only for non
		
01:10:18 --> 01:10:20
			Muslim audiences, but also missing
audiences. So
		
01:10:21 --> 01:10:24
			I don't know. Have you seen this
before? Let's see.
		
01:10:26 --> 01:10:30
			Everything is somewhere. Move it
over a little bit. Yeah. Japan,
		
01:10:30 --> 01:10:35
			I'll move it over. Oh, this is not
Japan is Cambodia. Bah, bah Jia.
		
01:10:35 --> 01:10:38
			And I thought that was Yeah,
Japan. Moving a little bit. The
		
01:10:38 --> 01:10:42
			audience can see. Yes, yeah. Pull
it out a little bit so everyone
		
01:10:42 --> 01:10:45
			can see. Okay, but I thought it
said Yeah, Japan,
		
01:10:46 --> 01:10:50
			not Japan. Batuan. Now who is
that? Is that a character that you
		
01:10:50 --> 01:10:56
			made? Oh, yeah. So, so I drew this
character. I call this series of
		
01:10:56 --> 01:10:58
			hijab in Ninja series, hijab is
dangerous.
		
01:11:00 --> 01:11:03
			And jebby newbies? Yeah, the
reason why I've started designing
		
01:11:03 --> 01:11:08
			this character is I actually I
really liked drawing things. But
		
01:11:08 --> 01:11:12
			when I become Muslim, I stopped
growing. Because my friend told me
		
01:11:12 --> 01:11:15
			that there was really like a great
Hadees like criticizing, like a
		
01:11:15 --> 01:11:20
			drawing the human figure. Yeah.
And I believe it was a forearm. I
		
01:11:20 --> 01:11:23
			still I still, this is really
controversial. So now I stopped in
		
01:11:23 --> 01:11:25
			a drawing for artists like eight
years or at least 10 years
		
01:11:25 --> 01:11:29
			something. Yeah, but there was the
		
01:11:30 --> 01:11:33
			TV series, not TV. Oh, yeah, those
TV series
		
01:11:36 --> 01:11:41
			in that.tv, was made by Disney's
actually. And there was like a
		
01:11:41 --> 01:11:46
			Muslim characters. Yeah. And in
Disney advertise that this is like
		
01:11:46 --> 01:11:51
			first like Muslim character in the
streets, and I watched a TV
		
01:11:51 --> 01:11:56
			series. And it was not that I
really enjoyed it. But still, I
		
01:11:56 --> 01:12:00
			got some, like, hidden messages
behind it. Those like more than
		
01:12:00 --> 01:12:03
			entertainment, especially Western
entertainment, like even though,
		
01:12:03 --> 01:12:06
			you know, they create like Muslim
characters or fictional
		
01:12:06 --> 01:12:09
			characters, like they are trying
to reduce the Muslim illness into
		
01:12:09 --> 01:12:13
			coming back ethnic identities.
Yeah. They tried to put this
		
01:12:13 --> 01:12:16
			character into identity politics
again, which I repeated measuring
		
01:12:16 --> 01:12:21
			this word identity politics. Yeah.
And even you know, overall, now
		
01:12:21 --> 01:12:23
			the Western entertainment, they
always talk about diversities.
		
01:12:24 --> 01:12:27
			They always talk about you know,
the like equalities. Humanities,
		
01:12:27 --> 01:12:32
			but have you ever seen like really
cool, like Muslim like a main
		
01:12:32 --> 01:12:33
			character in
		
01:12:35 --> 01:12:39
			there to rose the best of gut?
Yeah, able to read the Turkish
		
01:12:39 --> 01:12:42
			like entertainments doing the same
but yet, like, those characters
		
01:12:42 --> 01:12:46
			are also big fans or to ruse but
they also try to prove something.
		
01:12:47 --> 01:12:49
			Like they're always trying to
prove the Muslims are great.
		
01:12:49 --> 01:12:53
			Muslims are cool. And they these
are all like, in that area over
		
01:12:53 --> 01:12:58
			the contemplation about so and
also they everything, any cool
		
01:12:58 --> 01:13:03
			hijab he charges, almost like a
zero. Yeah. They, when they, you
		
01:13:03 --> 01:13:05
			know, typically Muslim, Nigerian
Muslim, and they always talk
		
01:13:05 --> 01:13:09
			about, you know, they're, like
female Muslims, who are suffering
		
01:13:09 --> 01:13:13
			for the pressure from the Arctic
paternalistic societies, if we try
		
01:13:13 --> 01:13:18
			and like, trying to see for the
Liberty. But if we go into the
		
01:13:18 --> 01:13:22
			kind of negative image, and it
makes me it makes us so tired of
		
01:13:22 --> 01:13:27
			watching it. Yeah. So that's why
you have an x ray, and even Japan
		
01:13:27 --> 01:13:30
			as well. Now we have like many,
like second generation and surgery
		
01:13:30 --> 01:13:31
			Muslims.
		
01:13:32 --> 01:13:36
			But since you know, there will be
no Muslim countries, you know,
		
01:13:36 --> 01:13:39
			some of them. Some of them, they
were scared of, like wearing the
		
01:13:39 --> 01:13:42
			hijab, and even though they wear
hijab, and when it goes to the
		
01:13:42 --> 01:13:46
			schools, you have to encounter
correct prejudice or something you
		
01:13:46 --> 01:13:50
			get bullied. And imagine that, you
know, they were they are
		
01:13:50 --> 01:13:53
			practicing Islam. When the in the
facing lots of challenges in the
		
01:13:53 --> 01:13:56
			schools, especially in the public
schools, and imagine what kind of
		
01:13:56 --> 01:14:00
			emotion they have their wedding
going back to the home. Yeah, they
		
01:14:00 --> 01:14:04
			feel so alone, you know, they
sought help helpless. Yeah. So and
		
01:14:04 --> 01:14:07
			when I hear that kind of stories,
I started to think that, you know,
		
01:14:07 --> 01:14:11
			I want to encourage, and I want
to, we need to encourage our
		
01:14:11 --> 01:14:15
			children, not just making yourself
happy and we need to invest on
		
01:14:15 --> 01:14:19
			next generation as we need to
encourage those young generations
		
01:14:19 --> 01:14:24
			that saying that you know,
practicing some is call them being
		
01:14:24 --> 01:14:27
			born as Muslims. Cool, that
beautiful the abstract is
		
01:14:27 --> 01:14:32
			installed is called, so that's why
I have a design. I started
		
01:14:32 --> 01:14:35
			designing the cute hijabi
characters, which is a company
		
01:14:36 --> 01:14:40
			which doesn't exist in the western
like entertainment. How are you
		
01:14:40 --> 01:14:45
			going to translate this into a
show? Show? First, I need to do a
		
01:14:45 --> 01:14:49
			manga. So I'm practicing myself,
but isn't really like a long step.
		
01:14:50 --> 01:14:53
			But I think this is really
important because I didn't know
		
01:14:53 --> 01:14:54
			what the
		
01:14:56 --> 01:14:59
			I knew about the context in
America, but in the case of Japan,
		
01:15:00 --> 01:15:01
			Usually just you know, the art
		
01:15:03 --> 01:15:07
			world entertainment field is like
dominated by liberals. And the
		
01:15:07 --> 01:15:12
			liberal means like not very
sincere about, like tradition.
		
01:15:13 --> 01:15:18
			And India. And you can easily do,
especially with Muslim communities
		
01:15:18 --> 01:15:23
			that we conservatives, so we don't
be hesitant to enter this field.
		
01:15:23 --> 01:15:28
			But because we are not showing our
initiative in this field. So
		
01:15:28 --> 01:15:31
			that's why there are some people
who are using this like media to
		
01:15:31 --> 01:15:35
			like, distort the image about
Islam. Yeah. And I heard that, you
		
01:15:35 --> 01:15:38
			know, Deaf without even destroying
human image.
		
01:15:39 --> 01:15:43
			I'll stick with this
controversial, but there are some,
		
01:15:44 --> 01:15:51
			like legal opinion that it is
still permissible to write like 2d
		
01:15:51 --> 01:15:54
			characters as long as it remained
2d, like not as just the medical
		
01:15:54 --> 01:15:58
			opinion. Yep. Just if it's the
full body, and it's to D.
		
01:16:00 --> 01:16:06
			It's mcru. If it's not full body,
and it's to D, it's Halon. If it's
		
01:16:07 --> 01:16:10
			full body, and three dimensional,
		
01:16:11 --> 01:16:16
			is forbidden. Yes. Yeah. So that
and these are good ideas. Look at
		
01:16:16 --> 01:16:22
			a half $1 line. Yes. Line. So it
may mean if mommy knows the best
		
01:16:22 --> 01:16:26
			example or the practicing, like,
best example, Islamic culture,
		
01:16:26 --> 01:16:34
			still, we are facing, like real
toxic, like visual image when we
		
01:16:34 --> 01:16:36
			are like opening Netflix or Disney
Plus, there needs to be an
		
01:16:36 --> 01:16:40
			alternative for sure. No doubt
about Yeah. So then do we Muslim
		
01:16:40 --> 01:16:42
			even though this is like a
controversial area like we
		
01:16:42 --> 01:16:46
			consider the Muslim show in
misadventures field. Yeah. And,
		
01:16:46 --> 01:16:51
			but also, since this is a new
field, not only about it already,
		
01:16:51 --> 01:16:53
			but in education, like in the
Muslim community, we're not
		
01:16:53 --> 01:16:56
			investing much on like education
also made art.
		
01:16:57 --> 01:16:59
			But you know, this anime, anime is
like a
		
01:17:01 --> 01:17:05
			collective, like a project, you
have to hire like, no, the
		
01:17:05 --> 01:17:08
			hundreds, or sometimes you know,
this not, there are hundreds of
		
01:17:08 --> 01:17:12
			people who may 1 of all, you know,
person to me, write down the plot,
		
01:17:13 --> 01:17:16
			or person to look at designing
characters, or a person to make a
		
01:17:16 --> 01:17:18
			animated, like,
		
01:17:19 --> 01:17:22
			make this animation so that it
takes time to
		
01:17:24 --> 01:17:28
			get started by writing the right
novel, like a novel. Yeah. So that
		
01:17:28 --> 01:17:31
			we can use it as a script in a
plot. And Inshallah, you know,
		
01:17:31 --> 01:17:36
			once I finish, you know, I want to
find someone, like a manga artist,
		
01:17:37 --> 01:17:42
			to like, make to draw his
character into like, a manga. And
		
01:17:42 --> 01:17:46
			if it becomes, like, successful,
you know, I want to make like an
		
01:17:46 --> 01:17:49
			animated version as well, like
story of, you know, the Muslim
		
01:17:49 --> 01:17:52
			like a ninja. And by the way, the
Muslim character I haven't
		
01:17:52 --> 01:17:57
			designed is the are either second
generation Muslims or the the
		
01:17:57 --> 01:18:01
			Muslim converts? Yeah, I mean, I
would start, start getting it out
		
01:18:01 --> 01:18:05
			there get getting excitement. And
then you have companies like
		
01:18:05 --> 01:18:09
			fictional frontiers, who would
maybe know that world of
		
01:18:09 --> 01:18:13
			production, and get it out there.
Because it's a very, as you said,
		
01:18:13 --> 01:18:17
			labor intensive, it's expensive,
there's a lot of talent needed to
		
01:18:17 --> 01:18:20
			put it together. And a lot of
money's needed to fund it. But if
		
01:18:20 --> 01:18:22
			you get it out there, you get the
concept out there.
		
01:18:24 --> 01:18:26
			You know, you'll you get the ball
rolling.
		
01:18:27 --> 01:18:30
			In that regard, I think the final
frontier is doing a great job.
		
01:18:31 --> 01:18:34
			Now, for example, you know, and I
made this the or, like,
		
01:18:35 --> 01:18:39
			you know, genocide of Israel is
recommending, now we are
		
01:18:39 --> 01:18:43
			boycotting lots of products. Yeah,
I think this is really important.
		
01:18:43 --> 01:18:47
			But boycotting something is also
like, not enough. Yeah, like, what
		
01:18:47 --> 01:18:51
			we need to do we need to produce
something. Yeah, we need to create
		
01:18:51 --> 01:18:52
			our own ecosystem.
		
01:18:53 --> 01:18:57
			Not only that, we need to create
our own fruit, we need to create
		
01:18:57 --> 01:19:00
			our own like books, we need to
build our own universities, we
		
01:19:00 --> 01:19:04
			need to build our own schools. And
we even create our own character
		
01:19:04 --> 01:19:08
			100 For example, we can criticize
like Muslim fictional Muslim
		
01:19:08 --> 01:19:11
			characters, which are created or
designed by like non Muslim
		
01:19:11 --> 01:19:15
			companies, but even like well,
you're criticizing it as long as
		
01:19:15 --> 01:19:18
			we're criticizing we just remain
as the consumer of the content
		
01:19:18 --> 01:19:22
			that's true. You're an objective
content you know, we're just
		
01:19:22 --> 01:19:26
			giving you all our own resources
to a criticizing you just waste of
		
01:19:26 --> 01:19:31
			time. Yeah, we're important that
we need to show our creativity and
		
01:19:31 --> 01:19:37
			we need to show with Ebola I
personally believe that my next
		
01:19:37 --> 01:19:41
			job we ninja, other cooler than
any any other like infection was
		
01:19:41 --> 01:19:44
			in character in this world. No,
maybe I remember guarding but I
		
01:19:44 --> 01:19:46
			have this kind of self competence.
		
01:19:47 --> 01:19:51
			And what you know, and also this
is I'm not drawing for myself, you
		
01:19:51 --> 01:19:55
			know, I also like drawing but I am
investing on the the younger
		
01:19:55 --> 01:20:00
			generation. And I want to tell
them, that being wasn't
		
01:20:00 --> 01:20:04
			Muslims core converting Islam is
cool, like studying Navajo and
		
01:20:04 --> 01:20:08
			Sarraf is like a cool, like,
pursuing in a traditional religion
		
01:20:08 --> 01:20:13
			of Islam is cool. And this is this
is what makes us different from
		
01:20:13 --> 01:20:17
			the like modern like secular
people because they are only
		
01:20:17 --> 01:20:22
			confined themselves to identify to
define themselves in the world of
		
01:20:22 --> 01:20:28
			identity politics, but what we
what the Muslim can do is that we
		
01:20:28 --> 01:20:31
			need to use a resistance to
encourage the young generation
		
01:20:33 --> 01:20:37
			because Muslim community has the
youngest target the Muslim
		
01:20:37 --> 01:20:40
			community, the youngest like it
was my birthday is in a majority
		
01:20:40 --> 01:20:44
			societies. So what we have to do
is that we have to work for the
		
01:20:44 --> 01:20:49
			youth and this is the philosophy
of the photo Interviewer If you
		
01:20:49 --> 01:20:52
			want me to youngness but the
youngest doesn't mean that just
		
01:20:52 --> 01:20:58
			being young, it means like you
will acquire your spirituality to
		
01:20:58 --> 01:21:00
			become like nature enough
		
01:21:01 --> 01:21:05
			to like investing so this is what
they do is and this is what we
		
01:21:05 --> 01:21:07
			surely have the Thar you know the
		
01:21:08 --> 01:21:10
			well we'll be observing your
project your project so you have
		
01:21:10 --> 01:21:16
			many projects and bringing Islam
into the Japanese culture and hope
		
01:21:16 --> 01:21:19
			we put in our two cents and trying
to get your word out there about
		
01:21:20 --> 01:21:23
			about you and what you're doing.
So just like a Lafayette and for
		
01:21:23 --> 01:21:28
			all this information about what
you're doing, and we were all with
		
01:21:28 --> 01:21:32
			you, and a lot of comments you're
very happy with hearing about what
		
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			you're doing here and putting out
and may developing a character and
		
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			a lot of curiosity about your
other DAU endeavors. So hopefully
		
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			we will
		
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			Crossroads again. cross paths
again and I make dua for you.
		
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			Allah gives you a lot of Sofia can
all of what you're doing. You got
		
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			a lot on your shoulders there not
a lot of support in the Japanese
		
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			Dawa scene about men lots out to
give you Tofik and bless your work
		
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			just like Hello, thank you very
much. Thank you
		
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			speaking of Dawa, and, and Islam
entering in places while we're
		
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			doing watching this someone sent
said to me before you log off for
		
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			the day, you got to watch this
little clip
		
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			on churches becoming mosques, not
in Japan, I think it's in America,
		
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			but they but piggybacking off of
what Professor Yamamoto was
		
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			talking about his experience in
Japan, and with Japanese Muslims.
		
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			So I'm gonna listen to this. We're
gonna listen to this, but I hope
		
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			the hope is not going to be
cursing in here. So let's see.
		
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			This is Jeremy McClellan, an Irish
comedian.
		
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			Generally has good attitude
towards Muslims. But let's see
		
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			what he's saying here. Hopefully,
the the internet isn't too slow.
		
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			And we could hear it.
		
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			Alright, it's buffering. And it's
two minutes long. So we'll see.
		
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			In the meantime,
		
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			now, right, this is buffering, I
don't know if it's gonna take
		
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			a long time.
		
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			What constitutes waste of time,
according to the Maliki school,
		
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			says, Adam, I believe that is all
stuffy. But then again, we do have
		
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			definitions for low alive.
		
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			law law is that which has no
purpose in itself, but has a
		
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			purpose for something else. You
could call most sports as live,
		
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			where in itself, there is no
value, no meaning to kicking a
		
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			ball in the net, or shooting a
ball through a hoop. But there is
		
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			a lot of the
		
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			other benefits, namely,
friendship, exercise, teamwork,
		
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			then there's low has no benefit in
itself, nor does it have a
		
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			secondary benefit. And that's like
for example, a lot of lot of card
		
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			games games with dice board games,
there's no real benefit in itself,
		
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			nor
		
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			secondary benefit. Unless you
really try to stretch it out, like
		
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			really played mental gymnastics to
show how it's beneficial. Most
		
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			video games I would probably say,
Don't also our level, not live. So
		
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			if someone
		
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			plays basketball for an hour,
every day, and another plays video
		
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			games for an hour every day, one
of them is going to come out
		
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			healthy one of them is going to
come out unhealthy. Right? So
		
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			that's the difference between live
and low is not that's not like
		
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			that's the breakdown that I liked
the most that I saw that I like
		
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			the most between playing and just
wasting time. And playing is
		
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			forbidden when it obstructs what's
more important than it low is
		
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			forbidden or discouraged.
Absolutely. complete waste of time
		
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			is discouraged
		
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			or forbidden
		
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			Absolutely all right this video is
not coming up because internet I
		
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			guess it's too slow here. But in
any event let's
		
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			we're gonna wrap up right now.
Just come along here and
		
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			everybody. We will be back
tomorrow with tomorrow's guests
		
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			as a guest not as a host Paul
Williams from blogging theology.
		
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			Thank you all very much this is
Aqua locally and on Subhanak
		
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			Allahu Moby Dick Nisha Illa illa
Anta staford According to Vedic
		
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			well acid in Santa Fe has 11
Medina meanwhile middle side hot
		
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			water was sober Huck was sober
sober was Sarah money come
		
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			Rahmatullah?
		
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			know oh hello Google