Shadee Elmasry – Islam & Japanese Society Professor Yamamoto (2) NBF 285

Shadee Elmasry
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The transcript is not a transcription or a reflection of historical facts, but rather a collection of sentences that appear unrelated and may not have been taken in their entirety. The speakers explore traditional Japanese tea ceremony, introducing culture to media, creating "immigrational identity" in shaping language, and creating "immigrational identity" in education. They also discuss the difficulties of finding Muslims in media and the need for creative expression in art.
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some other reason maybe the cousins are after us or something,

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maybe enough. But anyway, let's get straight back to our interview

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in Java.

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All right, sorry about that. So the last question that asked

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the political situation for Muslims just meant I imagined my

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guess. Muslims in Japan are an ignored entity. They're not large

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enough in number.

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There's no history of some kind of terrorism. For there to be a

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them to be on the radar. Am I right in assuming that the Muslims

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in Japan are not on the radar? Now, can you hear me? Yeah, I can

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hear you're good to go. Okay. Yes, I still so decently like Chris,

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the statistics, but it is says that seeing around like 200,000

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Saudi Muslims living in Japan right now.

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But the majority majority was observed foreignness, and usually

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like temporary workers. And I think the Japanese Muslims are

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less than like, 10,000. Something I use is really super, like a

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minority case. So like, we don't have really serious, like

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prejudice against Muslim right now. But yet, because of the

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Israeli

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Palestinian conflict,

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there was like one like Japanese like scholar, yeah, who keep

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posting a really like textbooks like definition, like anti

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Islamophobic. Like tweets. Yeah. And there. And also, like, there

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is like a new political party in Japan is names like Conservative

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Party of Japan or something. Yeah, it's like a far right things like

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a political parties. And the, you know, the follower of these

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parties are starting to endorsing like her, and on the internet

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interface. Like, when I think that day by day, and I can see the

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Nordic,

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like, Islamophobia is now like forming in Jeff, in Japanese

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society, I think.

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So now, it's not indirect appeal later, but I can clearly see the

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universal Japanese now they are not welcoming the Muslim in their

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societies, like both like for like for Muslims, and also the Japanese

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Muslims. Okay. Future, I think we will be like otherwise. And I

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think eventually, like, we might lose, like a place like live or,

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okay. Now, when when they have antagonistic views towards

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Muslims, what's the what's the basis,

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basis and stuff that it's really like, superficial, like

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understanding that they are estimating typical Islamophobic

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things like, for example, the Muslims know, they know how they

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are not, they're not in disagreement, like at dinner, how

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to clean up the stories race, and also the houses and the zoning.

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And they will know, sure, it's the Japanese cultures.

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And, and because of the Disney, so I personally war between Japan and

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South Korea is it's not a fishery, I think, especially if you're

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neutral. But the in general in Japan is the thing is high res

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low.

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So I think the most of Japanese citizens, they think they're in

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Hamas terrorists. And the people who are showing the art of

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empathy, that was the first thing is also to consider a terrorist in

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different societies.

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So yeah, sure, you know, we're having a little bit of hard times

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right now. So essentially, they're plugged into the, you know, the

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global conversation of things. And they have the same views as

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basically any European country, I'd say. Sounds like Yes.

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How about Islam as

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the law, the Sharia, what is your perspective on the Sharia? So

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every culture is going to have different issues with the

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shittier.

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What would be your perception on the show? Yeah, yeah. What would

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be the single ruling? That is an issue for them? Or is like a,

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something that gets on on their mind that they clashes with their

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culture? I mean, in the West, it's always the same thing. It's age of

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Asia, right? It's not even a ruling, but it's just something in

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the Sierra.

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I mean, not sure. But I just think that most of Japanese they don't

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they don't even know the word Sharia. And so they didn't know

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what the concept of like rule of law in general, like not only by

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rule of Islamic rule of law, Secretary of law,

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many people think that if like, like, if like, like Islamic

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Empire, but there is no Islamic empire right now, that is

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something concrete like Japan like there will be no like freedom

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speech and there will be no freedom of like drinking alcohol,

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or, you know, the freedom revision sort of sense. But I think the

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most important thing is that we level it since I Muslims like when

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I go back to Japan, and when I have like a discussion

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I like academic discussions or like religious like dialogue. The

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thing is is that you know many people ask me like what is what

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Islam is or what is like life for Muslims but I think the most most

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more important things can be like what is actually they being human

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in this like a secular like estates especially in this theater

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nation states was like gonna mean people are comparing about a meme

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you have like in the prejudice like image about Islam like you

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know there is no like limited freedoms or these new freedom of

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speech but with that money I have a passport and a Japanese passport

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and I'm sure they shave you also have an American passport right

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American Yeah.

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But whatever the number or the you know the country you can enter and

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also the number of a country I can enter is different

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no Japanese passport is like one of the strongest platform in the

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world now it's like second or third like surfing

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and example like

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I can enter Turkey like with a visa, but if I want to travel to

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Pakistan, I need to like apply for the visa or if I wanted to make

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such as the Muslim first thing you know, I applied for the visa

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like Saudi Arabia and

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you also the same ladies as an American citizens they these are

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country you can you can visit with you know the the country you have

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to apply for the

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logistics See, this is so against the human rights or the equalities

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of humanities. Yeah. Which is defined by like Western

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philosophy. Yeah. So like they is like in actually like the

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discount. There is like, we live in such kind of hypocritical

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societies, but I don't know why people still like targeting

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Muslims and Muslims, like

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restriction.

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This is actually the textbook definition of an upward height.

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But we're not fighting.

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We don't think that this is like a threat to the humanities. And I

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believe that you know, the study of Islam or like studying the

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Sharia or that we're living as Muslims is offer us like good

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opportunities to rethink the what kind of world we live in right

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now. Yeah.

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Even like for example, I Muslims, I want to make cards and even

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packs or even if I go to Saudi Arabia, I need still I need to

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have to carry like a passport right? In passport me to buy like

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a nation state like puja. But according to Sharia, if there is

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like, like a place called like, the daughter of Islam, like I

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don't have to carry a passport to enter. Like, how am I? Yeah, yeah,

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like, and even like, even if I was like Christians, or like a Shinto

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is like Buddhist. Like, I don't have to ask like $1 like states to

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issue like a password. Yeah. Like it now you can ask like a Muslim

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individual to issue like, Alana and I'm not sure about in the

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context was Hinduism Buddhism because these like, like,

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different opinions was still an issue. I was a Christian. Yeah, I

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guess individual to issue Amana and I can be like a Muslim and

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yeah, to stay in the place of Islam.

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So in this sense, so many people have like, so what I want to say

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is that many people have like, so called like, shall HP image but

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Sharia is against the humanities. But first, you must understand,

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you know, this, like secular like a nation state is the typical

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explain

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the humanities like this, like this is what I'm trying to say,

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talk in front of the normal standard, like the Japanese

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audiences, like problem is not about our

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misunderstanding about Muslims, or misunderstanding about Islam or

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our like low literacy about Islam. It's, like, our major problem is

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that we don't know what kind of world we live in. Yeah. So it

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sounds to me that the Japanese mental background, intellectual

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background is purely a Western background, whatever happened to

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the old the original Japanese culture, be that Taoist or Shinto,

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Louis or your or what have you?

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I think, I think you're right. Especially in the field of

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academia is or the I think, we academicians are heavily

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influenced by the like wisdom like a paradigm.

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But also in the same time, if you look at the more practical aspects

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of the Japanese society, they are like lots of like, beautiful

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traditional Japanese culture still remain. And so the they are also

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lots of reasons to Japanese Muslims are not, not Japanese, if

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we're trying to preserve the beautiful Japanese cultures. For

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example, I myself is the students. I'm sorry.

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of the Japanese tea ceremony, the Japanese like tea ceremony.

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So this Japanese tea ceremony in Japanese because Sado tea ceremony

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is one of the oldest Japanese culture Yeah, it started like in

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500 or 600 years ago. And it is Dr. So, if you say English like a

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Japanese tea ceremony, it sounds like you know, like a tea party.

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But this the tea ceremony is the OG It's the method for the Alex

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spiritual education

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in traditional Japanese society, so, when we are preparing the T

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you we we will learn how to show respect to like a Masters Yeah,

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and also how to show respect to the other guests. And so, when we

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are taking care of taking care of the t use and toes you know, we

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know they how beautifully they can design the odd creature in this

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world. So in this way, like in the we will try to learn the idea of

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balance between the Macro Cosmos and the micro cosmos. And there

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are some lean in the Muslims who is incredible I am organizing this

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tea ceremony workshop into Turkey or the other like Muslim

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communities in the UK, or even in Japan on the other side wasn't

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really criticizing me that I'm doing like a bit of art or

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because like these tea ceremony culture, culture is not from the

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Islamic civilizations and also the world needs a very surprising

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start you know this there are some people who will criticize me that

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I'm wearing this Japanese kimono

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that there are some there are some people who actually thought that

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guy has if he didn't have that intention, but he just like in

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respect he advised me Don't try to wear like a coffee pros they will

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close the infidels

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but first of all this distribution Japanese chemo like this is not

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like you know, special like secret like clothes for like a priest or

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like in like a Buddhist or Shinto study. This is just like ordinary

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like a daily clothes. Which we are wearing that before the month is

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one of those Yeah, I mean even even until they get 60s or 70s

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It's still Japanese are wearing this Japanese and, and also like

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shape. Do you know what this inner chemo is called? What the

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commandos called? Yeah. In their in your chemo

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in there now what is this innocuous code Jubal Jubal Jabba

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Jabba Yeah, Juba story and claimed that it this Jubal yeah

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originally it was for us I didn't but

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we got this in the clothes is actually that you came from like I

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different Portuguese like immersion somewhere and they some

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someone who bring this Juba from the Islamic world.

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So actually that I am not wearing the Catholic clothes that I am

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wearing that Islamic clothes. wish her good inspiration so Islamic

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Relations Yeah. So it is very important like when you're

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engaging with it like a normal thing communities like in Japan or

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Korea or even America.

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We must not judge their culture.

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Like without like sincere like evaluation. Yeah.

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They even might be like even it's not like Islamic. So these like in

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the word which is coined by this famous historian like Masha Huson

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especially the word like Islamic and Islamically and Islam is like

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very limited to the like don't dogmatic aspect of Islam, like

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Colombia, rocky does or Africa but it is satanic it is more like a

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cultural, like a manifestation of the Islamic values and which is

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shared by both Muslim and non Muslims. So even though for

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example, the Japanese culture is not Islamic, because we don't have

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like, you know, direct interaction with a civilization but there are

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some Islamic kid like traces that even in Japanese culture and this

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keyboard is one good example. Yeah. And the kimono essentially

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is a robe with a belt. Oh yes. Like this is like it is yeah. No

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and also that I used to wear this though. Yeah.

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You know the Persians

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the Persians used to have these big belts

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he used to wear them on there so well big said well with a big belt

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like this like it's almost a sash right big belt across and then

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they put the job on top of that so I mean it's not so far off yes.

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Now I personally believe this I can chemo No it's actually really

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suitable for for Muslims. Yeah. According the other without like,

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I can also wear like a Western suits.

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But that which can be like a more Islamic

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Because of when I wear suits when I'm teaching university you know

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my suits the shows my body line. Yeah, something is so tight. But

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this kimono like it comes with my body lines and also the color is

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really decent. And even the inner chemo is called like a gym Japan

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is a jumper you know, Japanese like a virgin.

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Yeah. And

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so I believe that if, if we study like Japanese culture really

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deeply actually the good Japanese most now not only Japanese

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listening but even like normals in Germany as well. Like if we can

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imagine, like, like a new color, or like the Islamic civilization

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we should call like a Japanese like Islamic culture, like at

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least as my aim for the past like two or three years. I think it's

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important for every indigenous

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culture, the where Islam is new, for people to recognize what's the

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baseline, the minimal minimum viable product to be a Muslim to

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be a pious Muslim in this culture. So make as few cultural changes as

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possible. And to have a the scholars of Teddy in Yemen, they

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always say they promote this while simultaneously promoting that

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certain number of scholars should preserve the Sunnah as much as

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possible, close to what the prophet exactly war, so people

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could have a clue. But for the common folk, there should be a

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sense of, Well, what is the very least that I have to do? Because

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if everyone dressed like that, then a common person would confuse

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what's custom, from what sunnah from what's obligatory as Oh, this

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Islam is just too much. There's too much I got to do here, I can't

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wear a have a beard down to hear and dress up and all this ethnic

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clothes, it's not my culture. So when we had early on Maliki click,

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right, the that we had that discussion to

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Brandon from the Muslim cowboy does that too, where he actually

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he wears a cowboy hat, right? What they're trying to show is what is

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the minimum that a Muslim needs, right, and the minimum being is

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that your clothes isn't tight, that's an obligation your skin,

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your lines shouldn't be showing, and it should be cover your outer,

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right? So that's the same thing that you seem to be doing is

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showing what is the bare minimum that a person has to do to enter

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into Islam? And when a number of Muslims dress in a certain thing,

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it becomes Islamic in a sense, it becomes part of the the the the

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the big patchwork of Muslim culture so to speak. Oh, yes, I

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believe so. And also the I even further believe that, you know, is

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that only Islam? can offer directly reason. To the Japanese

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to preserve the Japanese cultures? Yeah, yeah. Because we're living

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in the modern societies. Without like,

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which one is more efficient, or even like reasonable like in going

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to like Zara or aka I don't know, I can name specific company.

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Which one is my face and going to the Zara and by the reasonable

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price, like a shirt, or, like buying this for traditional, like

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a Japanese kimono, which like, at least like cost, like 200, or 300,

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towards the UI, a new one, of course, like, I'm sure like 99%

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with the modern like, sacred Japanese will go to like in the

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modern,

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modern, like fashion.

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But the if you are looking Muslims, and if you are looking,

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they believe in AlDub. Now, if you believe in the importance of like

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a cover in the hour, then that I think Islam will give you the

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reason the reason this job

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is done is only Islam can understand this beauty of your

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job, the practicing disclosures, and I want to say something else

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that

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Islam comes to mind, the feelings of the people around you. Right.

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And that's why the concept of art if you could talk a lot about all

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of his customs. So when you're trying to bring something to

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somebody, and you have parents family that are Muslim, that are

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not Muslim, and you try to bring them Islam, it's wiser for you to

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preserve all of that they that is acceptable. And the audit is not

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carte blanche on there is audit that is acceptable. There are

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customers that are acceptable and customers that are more often

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Moldova accustomed that is unacceptable, right. And so and

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that's how a Muslim would live, right where you want to imagine

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someone who's dropped into Japan, China, Oklahoma, and Texas, they

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enter Islam. Now you're going to start offending them by wearing a

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turban and everything like what is your point? Isn't your point to

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bring this matter closer to them? Or

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Is it to be tough and offend them? So that's part of it's not part of

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the Sharia is what are the priorities here? And so

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preservation of custom and order is part of it does have a place in

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our religion. It's one of the more subjective and flexible ones, but

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it is part of our deen. Now, speaking of Dawa, in Japan, how

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much does a person need to know about ancient Japanese beliefs?

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And could you tell us a little bit about the Shinto culture, beliefs?

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temperament, things like that, if someone was to go do Dawa in

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Japan, like, What even is that? What is the shin to philosophy?

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Like, meaningful for asking this question to like,

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what would be like best? So how can we understand, like a Japanese

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revision to make like a proper like a double bar. But I think

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that would be also like an important thing

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to

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explain Islam to the Japanese audiences. But

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again, you know, I always remember this, how do you like to have this

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in our country to Korean and I personally, I personally interpret

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this as the we have to understand in a context, we have to

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understand the environment that Japanese modern Japanese people we

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live in. And in most of the Japanese people, like Indonesian

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doesn't matter anymore.

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Until they are, there are still believes in something. But they

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are not.

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They are leaving,

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in regularly systematic manner. And also, I think, example. I'm

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also like, free in visiting the UK, or France or Germany's. And

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also, I visit this quite a few times in America as well. But I

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think in the European culture,

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this like making like a metaphysical argument, is really

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important. When it comes to regulation, we example like, you

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know, they are I saw they saw many, like videos, or like

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podcasts on a youtube program that you know, the Muslims, these are

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the Muslim preacher, and also the Christian like a priest and who

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are trying to give a debating, which is like a crack belief.

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But I think they do in some like, as like Japanese. The first is,

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like, it sounds like so like the Western cultures who try to like

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debate something, especially, especially about a metaphysical,

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like, it's things that we got.

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And I remember that when I was reading the classical tasawwuf

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book,

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there's like two ways to reach the Haqiqa The one is like, nuzzled

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in descending, and another ways like rouge, like ascending and

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this like, he knows what it means, like more like, like a

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metaphysical, like reasoning, that how, you know, the one pure,

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like, existence, you know, Allah had created the whole universe and

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creatures, dislike all which is another practical aspect, that

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what kind of a practice that we can do to like a sense no, to

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reach like a Malefor. You know, like it modified or to, like taste

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like a Tauheed to experience the sense of like a total heat. And

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when it comes to the, you know, Japanese or like, not like New

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Zealand people is more like orange people. They want to know, what is

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the practice of Islam? Like, what is the beauty of practicing Islam?

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Because like, when the no matter how you try to talk about the

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oneness of the god, I Tao, heat or Allah? Or do you like a new blu

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ray prophecy?

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I think it might not be so convincing to them. You don't like

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it? This is not our culture. It's just a theory to them. Yes, it

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just only rain as a theory. But if we talk about like the Huda Beauty

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of like pains occurred, or, like, how the Muslims are practicing,

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like fasting, like some enduring Ramadan's, or, that if I show the

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visual image by in hunch, then, you know, the people they gathered

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in one place, like Africans, or with Asians, or like a Caucasians,

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like in all kinds of place, and to feel the, you know, the Arctic

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solidarity, so communities, like Japanese people are more

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influenced by, you know, the kind of practical work aspect. So

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that's, that's a good point. And I think that's, I would say that's,

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that's almost universal,

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regular people, you're good, they're gonna make a change if

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they see other regular people living better than them. Right.

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And the problems that they have are not shared by the you know,

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there are solutions to those problems with that other group. So

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that leads me to a simple question. Hypothetically, I'm a

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guy who's got a business trip in Tokyo, Japan.

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Where do I go to get a sense of community I could put my hotel

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room next to their go, you know, from I could have been Asia and

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talk to some people have a sense of community what is one of the

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stronger communities and Muslims in Tokyo

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In Tokyo, these the masjid called Tokyo jammy jam is Masjid in

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Turkey in Turkey Sandwich. Like it is like you know I don't think

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it's directly run by the Turkish region so first but still like

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associated with the Turkish Ministry or the Regis in Turkey

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is these like Turkish Imam is he's really sincere and also

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now this Tokyo Jami is not only famous or like a masjid, it became

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like one of the most like popular like a touristic place in Tokyo

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right now. So every week, I think more than hundreds, you know,

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hundreds of people are visiting Tokyo Jami and every week. And

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almost every week there is the, the ceremony of the conversion,

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like, the Japanese are converting Islam in Tokyo. So if we go to the

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Turkish army, that you can see the big communities. And what is more

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grateful about this Tokyo's army is that if you build a Turkish

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army, that you can meet like assault somebody or second

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generation Muslims, like second generation, Japanese Muslims, I

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can remember the iron from you know, some of the Japanese

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Japanese, but right now we have like Pakistani Pakistani like

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Japanese Muslims, like Indonesian Japanese Muslims, what an

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Indonesian who was born and raised in Japan,

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or the golden Malaysia of nice Muslims, or the Palestinian like

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Japanese Muslims, or the Egyptian Japanese mostly, I mean, I do.

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Like they are the creating, like a new generations, like a day of the

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future of the Japanese communities. Because right now, in

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general,

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the population is like declining in Japan.

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And we're not getting married. And we aren't having babies. But I

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think the only like Muslim crazy is like you're worried because I

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was I was a Christian before we become Muslims. Yeah.

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I think the average age of the Christian community in Japan is

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like, over 65 years old. Like is it like it's become an older

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communities like is only becoming like a religion for the I don't

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know, the

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like a household something. But I don't believe anything that the

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Muslim community is the is the fastest growing community in

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Japan. But still, I can see it in the Muslim community in Japan is

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the youngest, like inclusion committee in Japan. And the

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beautiful things I read recently, you could buy a house in some of

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the suburbs for $25,000, because the population is just dropping so

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badly. Oh, yes. Like the I think many like Japanese like youth or

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they get moved into the big cities. Yeah. Not very many like

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into diversions in a small small towns and becoming like a ghost

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town in Japan. That's insane. The idea that some maternity wards

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have shut down and sent their nurses to a central maternity

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ward, right?

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Because there are no there. There was one hospital days, they

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recorded that there was on average of birth a week.

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So they're like, What, what's How do what why do we have a ward?

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Right? So they combined four hospitals. They all went to the

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biggest Ward, right? And everyone who wants to have a baby in Tokyo

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or in this town would just go to that word. Right? With that

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hospital, you might have to drive a little bit, but that's only one

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you have to you can go to. So it's insane how that population is

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dipping so badly in Japan. I think that that's probably its biggest

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crisis going forward right. Now, yes, I think the client, yeah,

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this is a humanitarian crisis. So this is why I'm saying I can

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afford Japanese. Like,

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they don't have to understand Islam, they first they have to

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understand what kind of problem they're facing in Japanese

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communities. Yeah. Then we read Japanese can say that Islam can be

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like, like your life giving, like force work, life giving energy for

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the Japanese societies, that in terms of like a cultures in terms

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of societies and in terms of politics. This is what I keep

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saying, Yeah. And it's amazing how humans problem has gone back down

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to like, the most basic problem of just existing. Right. And it's

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almost like we gouged ourselves with selfishness. I mean, the

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science and tech did so well to give people good life in certain

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countries, that people can't stand the idea of directing attention to

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others. I mean, we have now the concept of dinks. Right? You know,

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that Dinkus or, yeah, you guys know what a dink is? dual income,

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no kids, boyfriend and a girlfriend, right? Both have it,

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they got a dual income, and they've decided no kits, right? So

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that they could just do whatever they want. And so the culture is

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you become you. You're indulging to the point that you cannot even

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share your time. It pains you to share your time with a kid and you

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still have a problem. If you have one kid. Two kids, you still have

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a problem because you're not growing at that point. And what is

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it that may

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Japan, you know, be is really Japan is one of the leaders in

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population decline. What's this? What's the source? What's the

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reason? I seem to be the same reason America I think some people

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think that this is having baby, it's just like, they're basically

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they're losing their minds. Yeah. And so they have to enjoy life and

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they think you're the babies of Turin. So they get obstacles or

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for the happiness. Yeah.

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So I think the word problems have been is more than culture is like

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in the day, we like more than people, we always tend to stay in

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like a comfortable zone. Yeah. But especially when you study about

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the Notasulga or the Islamic culture is actually not only the

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Islamic culture, but also the traditional Japanese culture as

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well. Like, the culture, they help us to get out from the comfort

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zone

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to get opportunity to become like a major. Yeah. And what I see like

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in a modern Japanese society, the I feel, I strongly feel that now

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the less and less people are your major, and more and more people

00:31:01 --> 00:31:04

are like claiming their rights. You know, they're claiming the how

00:31:04 --> 00:31:08

the crack they are, how they're, like strong they are, they're

00:31:08 --> 00:31:12

always trying to prove something. Yeah. But no, I'm in Istanbul and

00:31:12 --> 00:31:17

what's missing and what needs to be touched that you know, or they

00:31:17 --> 00:31:21

see our tech get, you know, Zarya, you know, Sophie launches in

00:31:21 --> 00:31:25

buscador you know, Asian side of Istanbul is called Uzbek Cadet

00:31:25 --> 00:31:27

tech essay that was recommended by Casey in order to dissolve the

00:31:27 --> 00:31:31

articles Wikia okay you know the SOFIA not just for interviews with

00:31:31 --> 00:31:34

people you know, they're coming to they stumble, when they go into

00:31:34 --> 00:31:37

the hutch, you know, they're resting a few lucky masters and

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then you go into your mind. And still, you know, this was Becker

00:31:41 --> 00:31:45

taxi is run by Dr. Muslim medication or I could work with

00:31:45 --> 00:31:49

and when I entered this vegan advocacy, there is one famous like

00:31:49 --> 00:31:54

Islamic calligraphy. You see the kitsch? You know, hitch, hitch

00:31:54 --> 00:31:57

means Persian and also the Turkish but it means I get nothing.

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And I asked, you know, the person we're working in this is bacteria

00:32:02 --> 00:32:05

tech. So you like it? What are the what is the purpose of hanging

00:32:05 --> 00:32:08

dissident Islamic calligraphy on the wall? Sophie Logis? And He

00:32:08 --> 00:32:13

answered me that in this is the aim of the spiritual education of

00:32:13 --> 00:32:13

Islam.

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The immoral education that we always try to prove something that

00:32:19 --> 00:32:22

we tried to become like someone, though, we're trying to produce

00:32:22 --> 00:32:26

like something. Yeah. But in traditional agriculture, it's

00:32:26 --> 00:32:30

like, the weird, we are taking this education to become like a

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nice thing. We're embracing the weird nothings.

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And this, like in the decline of the population, and that's

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ridiculous. Related to this, as well, that, that now the more

00:32:43 --> 00:32:48

people who try to prove something, or try to make them makes them

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unhappy. So that's why they think they need all the environment that

00:32:51 --> 00:32:55

like the obstacle, their happiness, yeah. But in the end,

00:32:55 --> 00:32:58

you know, the ultimate aim, the humanity is like, in the we, why

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we're living right now, to pass to,

00:33:03 --> 00:33:08

to transmit, you know, knowledge of the Prophet Muhammad Sallallahu

00:33:08 --> 00:33:10

wasallam. Listen to the next generation, you know, we are just

00:33:10 --> 00:33:14

like a vehicle. Yeah. Like, if we don't make it, if we don't, we

00:33:14 --> 00:33:17

cannot get married, if we don't make the insurance or the if we're

00:33:17 --> 00:33:22

not investing on the younger generation, then the our community

00:33:22 --> 00:33:26

that will disappear, you'll disappear. And yeah, I like to put

00:33:26 --> 00:33:31

it like this. Your you have your own life. You only have your own

00:33:31 --> 00:33:35

life, thanks to other people who are not selfish. So there is a

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percentage, I don't know what the percentage is 1/3, maybe one

00:33:39 --> 00:33:45

quarter, one half, where you owe, you owe it to the community

00:33:46 --> 00:33:51

at large, to think about the future to advance this, this thing

00:33:51 --> 00:33:56

called human beings and Muslims on top of that. And the way to do

00:33:56 --> 00:33:59

that is by prioritizing your family over your career, nobody

00:33:59 --> 00:34:03

says i Hey, well, some of the things do. Most people say,

00:34:04 --> 00:34:09

most people say, Well, I gotta my career is so important. I help so

00:34:09 --> 00:34:11

many people in my career, right?

00:34:12 --> 00:34:14

Very few people say no, I don't want to have kids because I want

00:34:14 --> 00:34:18

to indulge, most people will justify it to themselves. So I got

00:34:18 --> 00:34:21

a very important career. I got a very important year coming up. And

00:34:21 --> 00:34:25

they keep postponing marriage. So career ism, the way I look at it,

00:34:25 --> 00:34:29

it's the biggest enemy to family is career ism. Like, you know, I

00:34:29 --> 00:34:33

can't imagine what I would have done. All of us can say the same

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thing. What would I have done?

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If I didn't have to have a family? And I could work

00:34:39 --> 00:34:43

12 hours a day, seven days a week? What kind of career would we all

00:34:43 --> 00:34:47

have? Yeah, but you'd also be very miserable to write. And what kind

00:34:47 --> 00:34:50

of old age would you have? What kind of middle of life would you

00:34:50 --> 00:34:53

have? Right? So we don't think about that. On top of that we

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don't that's all about ourselves. Imagine then, the whole community.

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If we all did that, what kind of community would we have?

00:35:00 --> 00:35:04

If we'd have empty masajid, right, we'd have no community left. So

00:35:04 --> 00:35:05

everyone's got to realize that

00:35:07 --> 00:35:09

career is the enemy of family.

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And I, the way I look at it both got men and women have to take

00:35:13 --> 00:35:16

that but women have ticket even more, right? Because they are the

00:35:16 --> 00:35:20

physical bearers of children, and they have a bigger obstacle. So

00:35:20 --> 00:35:24

they have to have a greater belief that having a family is more

00:35:24 --> 00:35:26

important than having a career. Guys have to have that because

00:35:26 --> 00:35:29

when they don't raise their kids or kids turn out wrong, you might

00:35:29 --> 00:35:32

you might as well have had not have kids with a guy doesn't raise

00:35:32 --> 00:35:35

his son. More important than raising his daughter, in my

00:35:35 --> 00:35:40

opinion. But in any event, I now like to ask you a question that

00:35:40 --> 00:35:44

when a young Japanese Muslim comes up to you said just converted to

00:35:44 --> 00:35:50

Islam, I need to make a YouTube playlist of Japanese lectures Who

00:35:50 --> 00:35:51

do you give them?

00:35:52 --> 00:35:55

Japanese lectures? Yeah, I need I need my Japanese

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playlist of lectures of talks of classes.

00:36:04 --> 00:36:07

All the Japanese who is the scholar out there the day even if

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he's not a scholar, but he's a day a person of Dawa and Imam who's

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out there.

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Speaking

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they also like famously Japanese like a dog who is out with a

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shaved arm at the minute he's working you know, very close to

00:36:22 --> 00:36:27

Tokyo and he is reinvesting on your child education but I'm not

00:36:27 --> 00:36:30

sure that he has the he's uploading in his lecture on the

00:36:30 --> 00:36:34

YouTube video but in general for example dialogue in Istanbul you

00:36:34 --> 00:36:37

know, I have more than five Japanese Muslim students like

00:36:38 --> 00:36:41

whenever I found you know, the Japanese Muslims or having kind of

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challenges in Japan I always encourage them to you know, come

00:36:45 --> 00:36:48

to the Muslim countries whatever they know I'm based in Istanbul so

00:36:48 --> 00:36:52

you know, I am encouraging my students to come they stumble in a

00:36:52 --> 00:36:54

state like one or two years to study like this times.

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But what if they don't speak Arabic? They only speak Japanese.

00:36:59 --> 00:37:02

No, thanks speak Japanese and Turkish and fossa you know this

00:37:02 --> 00:37:07

this study was ours well, and the reason and the reason for this

00:37:07 --> 00:37:11

start that we have now if you if you ask to take stock on YouTube

00:37:11 --> 00:37:15

that you can you can watch like millions of YouTube videos or

00:37:15 --> 00:37:18

lectures about Islam but it

00:37:19 --> 00:37:24

in Turkish these words like these words are sofabed in our in Arabic

00:37:24 --> 00:37:29

because yeah, I thought that it means like companionship it means

00:37:29 --> 00:37:34

like being together and we must not forget that your Islam is not

00:37:34 --> 00:37:37

like a digital like the content that you can download from the

00:37:37 --> 00:37:39

internet and you can once you install it you can become a

00:37:39 --> 00:37:42

perfect listener something Yeah, like the living as a Muslim no

00:37:42 --> 00:37:46

process. Process Yeah, we can all learn Islam

00:37:48 --> 00:37:54

through Okay, so you can reduce the image of your humanity who's

00:37:54 --> 00:37:56

to talk about you know, the Islamic practice or the showing

00:37:57 --> 00:37:59

current practices and Muslim they, you need to learn they can

00:38:00 --> 00:38:04

learn like Islam through like fragile.

00:38:06 --> 00:38:12

Like human or imperfect like human. The who are also trying to

00:38:12 --> 00:38:16

seek the past of Islam. Yeah, this is connected mastership and

00:38:16 --> 00:38:20

discipleship. The message if you disagree with me, like have you

00:38:20 --> 00:38:22

ever watched like new Star Wars? Like so seven excellent apes

00:38:22 --> 00:38:23

annoy.

00:38:24 --> 00:38:28

The new series of Star Wars? No. What is that again? Sagan? Star

00:38:28 --> 00:38:34

Wars new series of style. Oh, Star Wars? No, I saw a couple of the

00:38:34 --> 00:38:37

movies like The Last Movie that they ever that they said this is

00:38:37 --> 00:38:40

the last one. I did see that one. Yep. Okay, so you know, I am a big

00:38:40 --> 00:38:43

fan of Star Wars. So I watched him from the episode one to Episode

00:38:43 --> 00:38:44

Nine.

00:38:45 --> 00:38:48

These are probably one of a new series of Star Wars like I liked

00:38:48 --> 00:38:50

the old series, but if the new servers really disappointed,

00:38:50 --> 00:38:54

because these is like these a protagonist school array, yeah, in

00:38:54 --> 00:38:58

a female, like the protagonist, the characters, and

00:38:59 --> 00:39:03

in episode eight, you know, I was hoping that she will become the

00:39:03 --> 00:39:07

Jedi. You know, this is kind of like a traditional like, if, like

00:39:07 --> 00:39:11

a fighter. Yeah. Who, who? Who have like lightsaber and derisive

00:39:11 --> 00:39:13

like, boom, boom, yes.

00:39:14 --> 00:39:16

So, so I was hoping that you know, she will

00:39:18 --> 00:39:24

have she will find her own like a master to start like a training.

00:39:24 --> 00:39:27

Yeah. And in episode eight, there was a character called Luke

00:39:27 --> 00:39:30

Skywalker, and he's like the legendary, like a character in the

00:39:30 --> 00:39:35

old series. And I hope that he will become the master. But in the

00:39:35 --> 00:39:39

end, he didn't teach anything to disagree with female protagonists.

00:39:39 --> 00:39:45

But yet, she became suddenly the strongest like a Jedi in the

00:39:45 --> 00:39:48

history of Star Wars series. That's that.

00:39:49 --> 00:39:54

Yeah, millennials interpret that this is like a reflection of the

00:39:54 --> 00:39:56

identity Identity Politics, Politics. Yeah. Western

00:39:56 --> 00:39:59

agriculture that you define yourself as like the best thing

00:40:00 --> 00:40:03

You can become like a best. Yeah. And I think, you know, they are

00:40:03 --> 00:40:06

like integral even we Muslim, do we have this kind of a tendency

00:40:06 --> 00:40:09

that we are infected, you know, kind of identity politics? We

00:40:09 --> 00:40:12

don't know, you know? Yeah. So that if you have like a correct

00:40:12 --> 00:40:16

book, that if we x in the correct videos, and if you're watching

00:40:16 --> 00:40:19

like a record lectures, and then we can become like, right like,

00:40:19 --> 00:40:25

right Muslims Yeah, it's not like we are also the imperfect human

00:40:25 --> 00:40:28

beings that we will make a millions of mistake in our life

00:40:28 --> 00:40:33

and also the and but if we only accessing socolor The 100% Like a

00:40:33 --> 00:40:37

correct knowledge about Islam, like we don't know how to rebuild

00:40:37 --> 00:40:40

ourselves when we make mistakes. And this is what we see in the

00:40:40 --> 00:40:43

young Japanese Muslim corneas. Well, I can think of, for example,

00:40:43 --> 00:40:47

they are some hardship, and that they couldn't like they they

00:40:47 --> 00:40:51

didn't like make prayer for they have to end up like drinking

00:40:51 --> 00:40:54

alcohol because these like pressure from societies, and then

00:40:54 --> 00:40:57

when they make a good nearly missed even a tiny bit of a

00:40:57 --> 00:40:59

mistake, you know, they will become depressed and they will

00:40:59 --> 00:41:02

leave it to community. But actually, it's not like the

00:41:02 --> 00:41:05

everything that you have made. They are not only the beautiful

00:41:05 --> 00:41:09

things that even the ugly thing that this might be could be like a

00:41:09 --> 00:41:10

lesson

00:41:11 --> 00:41:14

to become like a better like the Muslims. Only you can make it a

00:41:14 --> 00:41:19

good Tober Yeah, but you can you will never run this like this,

00:41:19 --> 00:41:24

like the hope spiritual like journey will be Muslim just

00:41:24 --> 00:41:28

accessing like a data that you need your own like sensor in

00:41:28 --> 00:41:30

Japanese we call the master Sensei, you know, give Master?

00:41:31 --> 00:41:34

Yeah. So the while we haven't we haven't had to restore that isn't

00:41:34 --> 00:41:37

Muslim communities, not only Muslim, agree and Japanese society

00:41:37 --> 00:41:40

is the existence of the Mastership. Also like a

00:41:40 --> 00:41:45

discipleship? Yeah. So I totally agree, that's one of the biggest

00:41:45 --> 00:41:51

problems with the new generation is the lack of sub. Like there's

00:41:51 --> 00:41:54

no sub. And there's no culture of this. So they need to see their

00:41:54 --> 00:41:57

parents doing that. Right. They need to see their parents honoring

00:41:57 --> 00:42:03

somebody and accepting their tutelage over the span of decades.

00:42:04 --> 00:42:09

And in order to realize that, to believe that and what I think one

00:42:09 --> 00:42:13

of the reasons behind this is that the nature of the world, today's a

00:42:13 --> 00:42:19

world of tech, tech, science and tech, it, it prizes, innovation,

00:42:19 --> 00:42:24

and rightfully so. Right. So going back and mimicking, you know, the

00:42:24 --> 00:42:27

Internet of the past, or the software code of the past is

00:42:27 --> 00:42:31

useless. You need to go innovate, people then take that ethic, and

00:42:31 --> 00:42:35

then apply it where it doesn't belong, such as anything that has

00:42:35 --> 00:42:38

to do with transmission or expertise. Both of those things,

00:42:38 --> 00:42:44

they just require years of dog Id almost boring repetition of the

00:42:44 --> 00:42:48

same thing. Right. And that's why I think in the modern era, people

00:42:48 --> 00:42:53

have a hard time with the idea of anything taking a long time.

00:42:54 --> 00:42:57

Right? If everything they want seven minute abs, everything he

00:42:57 --> 00:43:00

wants, people don't want to put in the time, and the effort and the

00:43:00 --> 00:43:04

humility. So that's something that you have to you have to go uphill

00:43:05 --> 00:43:09

in fighting that battle. Yes. So that's why they're coming back to

00:43:09 --> 00:43:11

your questions. Like, you know, I'm always encouraging the

00:43:11 --> 00:43:14

Japanese when they asked me that, what is the best lectures? Or what

00:43:14 --> 00:43:18

is the best book that I saw? Yeah, the first you have to take your

00:43:18 --> 00:43:22

time. Do find out which ones are the best books for you.

00:43:23 --> 00:43:24

Because

00:43:26 --> 00:43:30

people always expecting like a clear answer of something. Yeah.

00:43:31 --> 00:43:34

But maybe like in that way, you can order some like books away

00:43:34 --> 00:43:38

Slovenia, Amazon, and you will read it. And maybe you find out

00:43:38 --> 00:43:41

that it's not like helpful for you. But this India, this is also

00:43:41 --> 00:43:45

good experiences. Yeah, this shows that not every person knows about

00:43:45 --> 00:43:49

Islam, and there is something books, which is not useful for

00:43:49 --> 00:43:52

them. But maybe that books might be useful for the other people.

00:43:52 --> 00:43:56

Yeah. And I think it is now right now in modern societies, the more

00:43:56 --> 00:44:01

and more people even including me, like we are less. I mean, as you

00:44:01 --> 00:44:05

said that we are losing the suburbs. Yeah, to accept, you

00:44:05 --> 00:44:08

know, the, the complexity of the humanity and the complexities of

00:44:08 --> 00:44:12

like, even like Norwich as well. Because I'm like, I'm sure you

00:44:12 --> 00:44:12

also have

00:44:14 --> 00:44:17

even when you start a service or different project, yeah.

00:44:18 --> 00:44:22

I did my PhD in Kyoto University, but and also I'm working on the

00:44:22 --> 00:44:25

university but you know, the syllabus like university syllabus

00:44:25 --> 00:44:29

system syllabus, yeah. If you read the syllabus, right now, I don't

00:44:29 --> 00:44:32

know that these are huge festival in university that we have to

00:44:32 --> 00:44:36

write the so details about the lecture or the the courses Yeah,

00:44:36 --> 00:44:38

that not only about the name of the courses was that we have to

00:44:38 --> 00:44:42

write an aim of the courses and also the we have to write the

00:44:42 --> 00:44:45

outcome of the courses that you're doing right now. We have to like

00:44:45 --> 00:44:50

guarantee the outcome that what outcome that you know, the student

00:44:50 --> 00:44:53

can get if they take this course without the lecture about Middle

00:44:53 --> 00:44:57

Eastern, the introduction to like Middle Eastern studies or

00:44:57 --> 00:44:59

introduction to like Islamic studies.

00:45:00 --> 00:45:03

They teach you how to write the, you know, the in the outcome, then

00:45:04 --> 00:45:08

they after taking this course the students can get, like a firm like

00:45:08 --> 00:45:11

knowledge about, like Islamic studies or Middle Eastern Studies.

00:45:12 --> 00:45:15

I mean, it's impossible. Yeah. I mean, it's

00:45:16 --> 00:45:18

like a good international restaurant taking the courses, but

00:45:18 --> 00:45:22

some people may or may not. And we this is so based on, like, recent

00:45:22 --> 00:45:25

professional, like, more like superficial like engineering

00:45:25 --> 00:45:28

mindsets. Yeah. Like the, if you write down the code, they know

00:45:28 --> 00:45:32

that he's in the end, and then human can work like a machine.

00:45:32 --> 00:45:36

Yeah, there's gonna bargain. But it's not like, maybe when they

00:45:36 --> 00:45:41

take the course, maybe it not be the hippo at that time, then maybe

00:45:41 --> 00:45:44

in 20 years, or 30 years or 40 years or even look at dust, dust

00:45:44 --> 00:45:48

very many before they die. Maybe they will find out some kind of

00:45:48 --> 00:45:52

modified with that you don't know the what kind of knowledge can be

00:45:52 --> 00:45:58

helpful, helpful for the human force or his or her life. And

00:45:58 --> 00:45:59

that's where

00:46:01 --> 00:46:05

that's where sometimes the best education is go hang out with that

00:46:05 --> 00:46:09

guy. Apprenticeships, what is an apprenticeship? Oh, this guy knows

00:46:09 --> 00:46:13

how to run this kind of a business. There's no syllabus, the

00:46:13 --> 00:46:16

syllabus says hang out with him, spend time with him on the job,

00:46:16 --> 00:46:20

and observe, DO what He tells you to do. You'll go up the ranks

00:46:20 --> 00:46:22

until he earns your trust and gives you bigger responsibilities.

00:46:23 --> 00:46:26

Those apprenticeships and your Do you remember Theranos?

00:46:28 --> 00:46:30

Did you hear in Turkey about the whole Theranos scandal.

00:46:31 --> 00:46:37

Tara's Theranos is essentially a company that had hundreds of

00:46:37 --> 00:46:42

millions of dollars of investment, and claimed that with a drop of

00:46:42 --> 00:46:45

your blood, they can do like 35 blood tests,

00:46:47 --> 00:46:51

right with one drop of your blood, something like that. And that they

00:46:51 --> 00:46:54

have some kind of a device. And that device will churn out the

00:46:54 --> 00:46:59

results of like multiple, multiple, multiple blood tests,

00:46:59 --> 00:47:02

instead of you having to go take multiple shots.

00:47:03 --> 00:47:07

Now, here's the amazing part. The amazing part is that the

00:47:07 --> 00:47:10

journalist, is a medical journalist and medical Tech Tech

00:47:10 --> 00:47:15

journalist who figured out that she was a fraud and the founder

00:47:15 --> 00:47:19

was a fraud. She never had any such device. It was a theory in

00:47:19 --> 00:47:24

her head. She collected the money. And she even started getting into

00:47:24 --> 00:47:28

the business, but she would take a drip of Java blood, then send it

00:47:28 --> 00:47:31

to traditional labs, and then give people the result because she

00:47:31 --> 00:47:36

never had a machine. So here's the amazing thing about how Elizabeth

00:47:36 --> 00:47:39

Holmes, thank you for chocolate Well, what

00:47:40 --> 00:47:45

was uncovered to be a fraud. The guy said that in tech,

00:47:47 --> 00:47:48

the innovators are always young.

00:47:49 --> 00:47:53

They're not entrenched, they're able to think outside the box. But

00:47:53 --> 00:47:56

in the medical fields, because there are human lives at stake.

00:47:57 --> 00:48:02

There's higher risk innovators of, of anything new in the medical

00:48:02 --> 00:48:05

field, tend to be in their 40s and 50s.

00:48:06 --> 00:48:10

Right, that's when they earn trust. And that's when they were

00:48:10 --> 00:48:14

able to give something back to society. Because it's risky.

00:48:14 --> 00:48:17

Whereas there's no risk in an app with app doesn't work. No one, no

00:48:17 --> 00:48:23

one, no one died, right? So he was like, Oh, she's way too young. How

00:48:23 --> 00:48:28

is she in the innovating in the medical world? Right at that young

00:48:28 --> 00:48:32

age. And that's when he started to actually start prodding and asking

00:48:32 --> 00:48:35

questions, and you could see a whole bunch of documentaries on

00:48:35 --> 00:48:38

Elizabeth Holmes and Theranos and the fraud that she committed. So

00:48:38 --> 00:48:42

that goes back to what you said, is that, like, what was your name?

00:48:42 --> 00:48:44

Ray? Whoever was

00:48:45 --> 00:48:45

your name?

00:48:47 --> 00:48:51

Yeah, whoever that Jedi the Jedi girl was, is that she becomes the

00:48:51 --> 00:48:56

greatest Jedi without putting in a minute of labor. There are no

00:48:56 --> 00:49:01

years of waiting of work. Right? And that's a scam. You're scamming

00:49:01 --> 00:49:06

the the viewers, you're scamming people into imagining that great

00:49:06 --> 00:49:10

results can come out of no work. Right? And that just doesn't exist

00:49:10 --> 00:49:15

in the world. Right? And all that came into the question like of

00:49:15 --> 00:49:20

what you said, on there isn't there may not be a quick YouTube

00:49:20 --> 00:49:23

list. But that's not how Islam was practice. Islam was practiced by

00:49:23 --> 00:49:29

living with people with Muslims over the years. And slowly

00:49:29 --> 00:49:35

marinating. Right. And your bad qualities come out one at a time

00:49:35 --> 00:49:39

in the presence of those people. I'd like to turn it now to the

00:49:39 --> 00:49:40

audience on YouTube.

00:49:43 --> 00:49:46

What questions do you have for Professor Yamamoto has given us

00:49:46 --> 00:49:50

from His precious time? It's now evening they're in Turkey. It's

00:49:50 --> 00:49:52

probably past Maghrib time.

00:49:53 --> 00:50:00

10pm Oh, so let's see. Oh, let's take two or three questions from

00:50:00 --> 00:50:05

more audience here. Alright first one is there a concept of Sn or

00:50:05 --> 00:50:11

spirituality in the original Japanese culture C says Yes I

00:50:11 --> 00:50:15

think so. I mean it's not like completely like Simon a stone

00:50:15 --> 00:50:18

because in your concert is so closely related to the song itself

00:50:19 --> 00:50:19

but

00:50:23 --> 00:50:23

you know

00:50:25 --> 00:50:29

not it's not about a son but basically like a strong like a

00:50:29 --> 00:50:33

word I reinforced while reading the book you know Cadabra for tuba

00:50:33 --> 00:50:36

and when I'm translating the scorpion in Japanese is the word

00:50:36 --> 00:50:41

codec ether the ether it means like altruism, like the like

00:50:41 --> 00:50:47

sacrifice yourself for the others generosity, yeah generosity and

00:50:47 --> 00:50:50

especially you know, disallow altruism. And that was once the

00:50:50 --> 00:50:55

most important like philosophy was a HELOC like a Japanese culture.

00:50:56 --> 00:51:01

But now you know we are like, like we have lost and this is you know,

00:51:01 --> 00:51:03

one of the reason why have translate you know this Nina

00:51:03 --> 00:51:05

Islamic classics to be German

00:51:07 --> 00:51:11

Intertek Japanese languages like you know this job like Islamic

00:51:11 --> 00:51:14

correct terminology so a lot of Islamic terminology and also

00:51:14 --> 00:51:19

Islamic values that might give like a new option like opportunity

00:51:20 --> 00:51:23

for like Japanese radio to remember the you know, our like,

00:51:23 --> 00:51:26

beautiful, I guess relation like If Sun might be there also an

00:51:26 --> 00:51:31

option, maybe the one and also the ether, and also the, the beauty or

00:51:31 --> 00:51:35

like a Toba in repentance. And when it comes to if son

00:51:37 --> 00:51:38

I mean, I'm sorry, is really off the topic

00:51:40 --> 00:51:43

instead of you know, just talking about Islam or is talking about

00:51:43 --> 00:51:47

you know, the faith, but I'm also trying to introduce new Japanese

00:51:47 --> 00:51:49

audiences like what kind of creativity

00:51:51 --> 00:51:54

that you know, we Japanese Muslim can offer do you mean jumping to

00:51:55 --> 00:51:59

the Japanese authorities? And I personally I interpret like this

00:51:59 --> 00:52:04

is my end of the exam, you know, as an IV in the Muslims like, I am

00:52:04 --> 00:52:09

designing support like Japanese islamicate like art and

00:52:09 --> 00:52:14

handicraft. And this morning I have new I have designed so it can

00:52:14 --> 00:52:17

see this Yeah. Oh, that was you.

00:52:19 --> 00:52:25

I grew up this is the a Japanese translation of the Estrada Fatiha

00:52:25 --> 00:52:30

in the Quran. Someone sent me that this morning is that I use the

00:52:30 --> 00:52:33

traditional like a Japanese like handwriting like calligraphy.

00:52:33 --> 00:52:37

Yeah, bring it over a little bit more. I guess. I guess other side

00:52:37 --> 00:52:40

yeah, there we go. Perfect. Perfect. Well, it's beautiful.

00:52:40 --> 00:52:45

Very beautiful. And when I design this like the I'm really convinced

00:52:45 --> 00:52:49

like I don't see any without that there are some like far right

00:52:49 --> 00:52:51

wingers like Japanese studies saying that we need Japanese

00:52:51 --> 00:52:55

muslims or muslims for a Muslim they're bringing some kind of

00:52:55 --> 00:53:00

like, impure, like a contamination to the Japanese societies. Like

00:53:00 --> 00:53:03

they're trying to destroy, you know, they are like a beauty of

00:53:03 --> 00:53:08

the Japanese cultures. But when I'm designing this the I see some

00:53:08 --> 00:53:09

kind of beautiful harmony

00:53:10 --> 00:53:16

isn't like a beautiful harmony of the Japanese culture. And Islamic

00:53:16 --> 00:53:19

like a culture or Islamic spiritualities Yeah.

00:53:21 --> 00:53:24

And not only handwriting's but of

00:53:27 --> 00:53:32

so I'm assuming tea ceremony so I am designing Soco islamicate like

00:53:32 --> 00:53:35

tea salmon use and toasts and things is

00:53:38 --> 00:53:44

this is a Turkish saying. Yeah, yeah. Who like ndpr who this is

00:53:44 --> 00:53:47

like Turkish like a calligraphy? Yeah, it isn't like this. Yeah,

00:53:47 --> 00:53:51

who is it's about a lot. And yeah, it's like a calling upon you

00:53:51 --> 00:53:56

invoke invocation. Like he means like, you you're asking Allah to

00:53:56 --> 00:54:03

like a gift like add up to humanities. And and this is the i

00:54:03 --> 00:54:06

i am working with the traditional like a Japanese artisan

00:54:07 --> 00:54:12

to design distribution or a handicraft because now you know

00:54:12 --> 00:54:14

less than this Japanese people they're buying traditional

00:54:14 --> 00:54:19

Japanese handicraft Yeah, they're doing like furniture from Ikea or

00:54:19 --> 00:54:23

somewhere like before somewhere from like shopping mall. But

00:54:25 --> 00:54:30

and also the even some not all not only Japanese when Muslim or it

00:54:30 --> 00:54:33

isn't me that why is spending so much money on creating the

00:54:33 --> 00:54:37

handicrafts and handicrafts? Because there's there's more like

00:54:37 --> 00:54:42

reasonable prices, handicrafts or so in a shopping mall. But I'm

00:54:42 --> 00:54:45

telling those people like which one is more like Islamic or which

00:54:45 --> 00:54:50

one is more like Muslim like way of living? Yeah. By your mass

00:54:50 --> 00:54:55

produced like handicraft in from shopping mall or like visiting

00:54:56 --> 00:54:59

like a traditional Japanese autism and explaining the East

00:55:00 --> 00:55:04

Me spirituality and how much I respect in Japanese culture as the

00:55:04 --> 00:55:08

Japanese citizen and designing this in a traditional handicraft

00:55:08 --> 00:55:13

which is inspired by Islamic spirituality. And using this this

00:55:13 --> 00:55:15

use and also a carefree whatever they

00:55:16 --> 00:55:19

I think a lot of these are like more like Muslim like way of

00:55:19 --> 00:55:19

living

00:55:21 --> 00:55:25

like a way of living, it's more holistic that way, I guess. And in

00:55:25 --> 00:55:29

this way, like it might be it might not have like big impact.

00:55:29 --> 00:55:36

But I think at least I'm quite sure that this Japanese artisan

00:55:36 --> 00:55:38

who are working with me have

00:55:39 --> 00:55:43

the opportunity to digest history spiritualities

00:55:44 --> 00:55:45

by design is handy if

00:55:46 --> 00:55:51

you're watching like Islamic like YouTube channels, or like Tiktok

00:55:51 --> 00:55:54

videos because this is about experiences Yeah.

00:55:55 --> 00:55:57

So the record is Sunday.

00:55:58 --> 00:56:02

I rather say that Japanese don't know much about it constantly sign

00:56:02 --> 00:56:03

it's not

00:56:04 --> 00:56:08

about Islam. And so I'm not sure we have like correct like crack

00:56:08 --> 00:56:12

corresponding with a word in Japanese culture. But if Japanese

00:56:12 --> 00:56:17

can can embrace the beauty of Epson then you know they can

00:56:17 --> 00:56:20

produce like more beautiful things for the Japanese societies.

00:56:22 --> 00:56:23

Someone is asking here now

00:56:25 --> 00:56:29

this Japanese tea ceremony does it take place in someone's home?

00:56:30 --> 00:56:34

You invite people to them like how does it work? Exactly. Oh this

00:56:34 --> 00:56:37

Japanese is actually like if you invited me to wherever living in

00:56:38 --> 00:56:41

New Jersey and uses if somebody invited me to New Jersey I can

00:56:41 --> 00:56:45

also do tea ceremony for you. Okay good. So it usually is done at

00:56:45 --> 00:56:48

home or either the traditional like a tea room

00:56:50 --> 00:56:53

but these program about like ordinary like Japanese tea

00:56:53 --> 00:56:54

ceremony

00:56:55 --> 00:56:58

it's not a problem but this like Japanese tea ceremony like

00:56:58 --> 00:57:01

contemporary Japanese tea ceremony is like heavily influenced by

00:57:01 --> 00:57:05

symbolism. So like days for example, it stays like hanging

00:57:05 --> 00:57:06

scroll

00:57:07 --> 00:57:10

hang on the wall they usually like that that hanging

00:57:12 --> 00:57:16

hanging Squall you can see like a calligraphy which is based on exam

00:57:16 --> 00:57:20

but isn't philosophy and so this is one of the reason why some new

00:57:20 --> 00:57:22

some of the Japanese parents they hesitate

00:57:23 --> 00:57:28

to send your kids to the like in Japanese T seminar classes. So

00:57:31 --> 00:57:34

that's why like I personally I have a really sincere like a

00:57:34 --> 00:57:38

master if we understand your sensibilities in the future you

00:57:38 --> 00:57:42

know, I want to design a traditional like a tea room. But

00:57:42 --> 00:57:46

we should take a design for a good Muslims or tea room to design to

00:57:46 --> 00:57:50

introduce like Islamic disagree charities. So what I'm organizing

00:57:50 --> 00:57:54

this my Japanese tea ceremony, like a workshop, and I'm not using

00:57:54 --> 00:57:58

an exam but somehow new scores and I was only using like handicraft

00:57:58 --> 00:58:02

which have come like it only Sami like elements, but instead of it I

00:58:02 --> 00:58:07

personally like designing this also. This hanging score is I have

00:58:07 --> 00:58:12

designed this hanging score measure now I like I'm an I

00:58:13 --> 00:58:17

and I have handy things were on the wall for this disharmony. And

00:58:17 --> 00:58:22

this flower is called Keegan BANA Hagen burner. He got me off camera

00:58:23 --> 00:58:27

and Burnham is a flower is a flower of the afterlife. So in the

00:58:27 --> 00:58:29

past in Japanese and when they see you know this flower, they always

00:58:29 --> 00:58:33

like memorize they always remembering about the afterlife in

00:58:33 --> 00:58:38

Buddhism, but I personally reinterpret reinterpret this

00:58:38 --> 00:58:43

flower that we Muslim We Japanese Muslim like we can remember about

00:58:43 --> 00:58:47

you know, Islamic like Astra Yeah, like when we want when we are like

00:58:47 --> 00:58:50

in the DC and this flower so that's why I write down this

00:58:50 --> 00:58:56

Arabic calligraphy the RDF and in my interpretation is RF RF like

00:58:57 --> 00:58:59

the implies like Allah Allah.

00:59:00 --> 00:59:03

So, this is how you know this. I personally call this project as

00:59:03 --> 00:59:08

semantic reconstruction like semantic reconstruction. So even

00:59:08 --> 00:59:11

though we are living in a non Muslim countries, and even aware

00:59:11 --> 00:59:15

we are surrounded by so called seemingly non Islamic context,

00:59:15 --> 00:59:18

like we can bring the new interpretation

00:59:19 --> 00:59:23

to like the Japanese cultures. And this is what actually like Malay

00:59:23 --> 00:59:26

Muslims and in raising Muslims also Chinese Muslim did

00:59:28 --> 00:59:29

resemble like these, like

00:59:32 --> 00:59:36

do you know the word? The book called Hunter Hunter? Never heard

00:59:36 --> 00:59:39

of it? No. Oh, hunky. Dory is probably a chain in homies

00:59:39 --> 00:59:44

Chinese. And the Kitab means Kitab This is another beautiful thing

00:59:44 --> 00:59:46

about Islamic civilization like whenever you go if these Muslim

00:59:46 --> 00:59:49

communities the book is always caught up

00:59:50 --> 00:59:53

with culture, especially Islamic books, we live in China In China

00:59:53 --> 00:59:57

as well. The Islamic book is cooked up in the Malay or

00:59:57 --> 00:59:59

Indonesia is in the Islamic stop in Turkey.

01:00:00 --> 01:00:03

The book basically book is called kitab. So I think in American

01:00:03 --> 01:00:06

Muslim communities that you can also use the word dub lingual

01:00:06 --> 01:00:10

Islamic classics, like you can, you can use this as like, you

01:00:10 --> 01:00:14

know, English terms. Yeah, this hanky dubs means like Islamic

01:00:14 --> 01:00:20

classic book written. In fact Chinese characters. So hum is

01:00:20 --> 01:00:25

Chinese and determines book oh I see okay. Okay. And when you when

01:00:25 --> 01:00:30

we observe this book, they are some like vocabulary or

01:00:30 --> 01:00:34

terminologies which is used by the confusion ism, or like a

01:00:34 --> 01:00:38

Buddhism's. And some, like researchers say saying this is

01:00:38 --> 01:00:43

like historical like evidence that how like Chinese Muslim and try to

01:00:43 --> 01:00:48

integrate, like a Confucian mystic or Taoist or Buddhism, like

01:00:48 --> 01:00:52

worldview and Islam. But personally, I don't believe I

01:00:52 --> 01:00:55

don't believe that correct. That interpretation. You know, I

01:00:55 --> 01:00:59

personally think that this is actually the process of semantic

01:00:59 --> 01:01:03

reconstruction. So even though they borrow this word, the way

01:01:03 --> 01:01:07

Muslim use this, they Oh, they, they have put the Islamic like

01:01:07 --> 01:01:08

meaning to it.

01:01:09 --> 01:01:13

So this is born with the format, but content is always a stomach.

01:01:13 --> 01:01:17

So there's a huge difference between compromising with the

01:01:17 --> 01:01:22

other regions. And as they bring the new creativity. Yeah. And

01:01:22 --> 01:01:26

bending with terminology is all over culture. Yeah. If it was

01:01:26 --> 01:01:29

otherwise, you wouldn't go and find the ethnic, even the

01:01:29 --> 01:01:31

scholarly clothes of every

01:01:32 --> 01:01:37

nationality is different. So yes, in Africa, the island scholar will

01:01:37 --> 01:01:40

be wearing different clothes in West Africa than North Africa,

01:01:40 --> 01:01:46

than East Africa than Yemen, than Iraq, then Indonesia and Malaysia.

01:01:46 --> 01:01:52

So that's why what we have is a deal that has roots, and then a

01:01:52 --> 01:01:55

very strong trunk, that doesn't move, but then you have branches

01:01:55 --> 01:01:56

that sway

01:01:57 --> 01:01:59

that sway back and forth. And that's the flexibility, the

01:01:59 --> 01:02:03

balance between where we're flexible, and encourage movement,

01:02:04 --> 01:02:08

and where what is inflexible and immovable and should never change?

01:02:09 --> 01:02:13

Yes. And also, even I, you know, I'm a bit of a bit arrogant, but I

01:02:13 --> 01:02:19

think, you know, my mighty summary workshop is one of the most

01:02:19 --> 01:02:21

creative, like a Japanese culture.

01:02:23 --> 01:02:28

Because I put the Islamic interpretation in it. And what do

01:02:28 --> 01:02:32

people do when they go? Sorry, I didn't trip What did they do when

01:02:32 --> 01:02:36

they go to this tea ceremony? So in this case, I mean, so, right

01:02:36 --> 01:02:38

now, most of the Japanese like practitioner tea ceremony, you

01:02:38 --> 01:02:39

know, the

01:02:41 --> 01:02:45

authority, they are sincerely studying about the etiquette of

01:02:45 --> 01:02:48

the Japanese, the tea ceremony, how they serve and how they

01:02:48 --> 01:02:52

prepare, you know, green tea, and how they tried to show respect to

01:02:52 --> 01:02:53

your guests.

01:02:54 --> 01:02:54

But

01:02:56 --> 01:02:59

you know, since it's already established, like a cultures like

01:03:00 --> 01:03:03

the East know, like new creativity needed in the JSR repeating limit

01:03:03 --> 01:03:07

routine, and I still yet I strongly respect no disabilities

01:03:07 --> 01:03:12

among cultures. But if we look at the history of disharmony in early

01:03:12 --> 01:03:13

periodicities, harmony,

01:03:14 --> 01:03:18

there was also like a tea ceremony inspired by feminism, but also

01:03:18 --> 01:03:21

there was a Christian t 72. Like a Catholic.

01:03:22 --> 01:03:25

In the 15th century, in the 60s, as were in Germany, society, you

01:03:25 --> 01:03:30

know, there was the Japanese, Christian, Caucasian and they were

01:03:30 --> 01:03:34

like Samurai, like Lord, who had converted to Christianity, they

01:03:34 --> 01:03:37

were called a Christian, a Christian daimyo just in diamonds.

01:03:38 --> 01:03:44

And they were like, practicing is t 72. Like, contemplate the

01:03:44 --> 01:03:47

spiritual, the Christianity's and there was also tea ceremony for

01:03:47 --> 01:03:52

the merchant and also the the ceremony for or summarize. So,

01:03:52 --> 01:03:55

there was like a diversity party. So T 70 itself is just like a

01:03:55 --> 01:03:59

format like iPhone. So Indian this is like just like technologies.

01:03:59 --> 01:04:05

Yeah, what is the important thing is that now what we will do by

01:04:05 --> 01:04:09

using this like technologies, so like mighty 70 Is that you know,

01:04:09 --> 01:04:12

also in is introducing the

01:04:13 --> 01:04:17

like an advocate and also the speech varieties, the tea

01:04:17 --> 01:04:23

ceremony, but I am also an N same time by using this T reg T

01:04:23 --> 01:04:28

container, or by like, you know, or through the showing this occurs

01:04:28 --> 01:04:32

if you you know, I'm trying to introduce, like islamicate like

01:04:32 --> 01:04:33

spiritualities

01:04:34 --> 01:04:35

arts.

01:04:36 --> 01:04:41

This is the characteristic Almighty samedi like a workshop.

01:04:41 --> 01:04:44

Now, when I go to the tea ceremony, I'm like a guest

01:04:44 --> 01:04:46

essentially, I sit down and then

01:04:47 --> 01:04:51

I'm a guest, I start receiving, you know, the tea and then is

01:04:51 --> 01:04:53

there something like something else?

01:04:54 --> 01:04:57

I should read it's really difficult to explain with words,

01:04:57 --> 01:04:59

but you know, there is the one video shop

01:05:00 --> 01:05:04

By the blogging theory in the YouTube channel, yeah. And I show

01:05:04 --> 01:05:04

you know the

01:05:05 --> 01:05:09

boosters for Williams. They did my tea ceremony. Oh, okay.

01:05:10 --> 01:05:13

So if they some of the interesting tea ceremony you can go like tea

01:05:13 --> 01:05:17

ceremony, blog MCRD Nokia moto any you can see or maybe you can just

01:05:17 --> 01:05:21

Google like Nokia moto tea ceremony Islam? Oh, no, no

01:05:24 --> 01:05:26

we're running out of time but I didn't ask one of the very

01:05:26 --> 01:05:29

important questions that I know some people really wanted me to

01:05:29 --> 01:05:30

ask. Okay

01:05:33 --> 01:05:34

the Japanese cartoons

01:05:36 --> 01:05:40

there so remind me animate

01:05:41 --> 01:05:44

they're so influential and I still cannot get my head around

01:05:46 --> 01:05:51

how they get such a cult following. Right Why enemy versus

01:05:52 --> 01:05:54

anything else? And secondly,

01:05:56 --> 01:05:58

there are some people that try to use anime

01:05:59 --> 01:06:00

as a form of Dawa.

01:06:02 --> 01:06:05

Like Sahibs company is all about that. So

01:06:06 --> 01:06:11

could you mind expanding on exactly what's going on with the

01:06:11 --> 01:06:14

poll? Why is enemies such a pull? Why does it have such a pull?

01:06:16 --> 01:06:20

First of all, yeah, I must say I'm huge, like otaku anime, you know,

01:06:20 --> 01:06:22

I mean, without cause like, I mean, if your narrative and your

01:06:22 --> 01:06:25

Japanese anime I have already watched, at least at least, like

01:06:25 --> 01:06:29

once, how many Japanese animes and also, I read the millions of the

01:06:29 --> 01:06:30

Japanese manga.

01:06:32 --> 01:06:36

And I haven't noticed and yet there are so many Muslims. And not

01:06:36 --> 01:06:40

only that, I mean, not only Muslim in the US, in the US, or in

01:06:40 --> 01:06:45

Europe, there are lots of the the Muslim fans of anime in a Muslim

01:06:45 --> 01:06:50

country as well, within the integrity as well. And at first,

01:06:50 --> 01:06:54

like, for example, the first time I came to do it, he was like 13

01:06:54 --> 01:06:58

years ago. And I'm so surprised that you know, I was studying in

01:06:58 --> 01:07:02

the traditional Muslim Education Institute. And we are studying now

01:07:02 --> 01:07:06

and sort of yeah, that we are memorizing new NASA NASA law

01:07:06 --> 01:07:07

certain thing that

01:07:08 --> 01:07:13

I have. I have noticed that you know, all of my old classmates

01:07:13 --> 01:07:16

they're watching Naruto, you know, Japanese anime Japanese like Ninja

01:07:16 --> 01:07:21

anime. Yeah. So the people who are studying this traditional like

01:07:21 --> 01:07:25

balloon is like sighs and is it same type a huge fan of Japanese

01:07:25 --> 01:07:29

enemies? Yeah. And I asked my classmate and, you know, because I

01:07:29 --> 01:07:32

was so shocked because like this traditional like a ton about Iran.

01:07:33 --> 01:07:37

And, and, and it made eye contact because like, I thought they had

01:07:37 --> 01:07:41

these two different like, separate like entities worlds. Yeah. Yes.

01:07:42 --> 01:07:45

But I asked them why they're watching like a decent Japanese

01:07:45 --> 01:07:48

anime, especially Naruto. And one of our friends like said to me

01:07:48 --> 01:07:53

very interesting things that when they watch the American movies, or

01:07:53 --> 01:07:55

the American TV series,

01:07:56 --> 01:07:58

they become very uncomfortable.

01:07:59 --> 01:08:01

Because in American TV series, or anyway,

01:08:03 --> 01:08:09

or the movies, there was always like identity politics. Yeah. It's

01:08:09 --> 01:08:12

like they always try to define themselves. Like, for example, in

01:08:12 --> 01:08:14

Star Wars about you know, this way, you know, she's always

01:08:14 --> 01:08:19

defined herself. Or even more in a Marvel hero comic series as well.

01:08:19 --> 01:08:22

Like in the URI there is no scene training. These will mastership

01:08:22 --> 01:08:25

and discipleship. It what is seen that if they define ourselves, we

01:08:25 --> 01:08:27

query now they can become the strongest in character.

01:08:30 --> 01:08:34

Like Marvel was already those things, but in Japanese anime or

01:08:34 --> 01:08:35

manga,

01:08:36 --> 01:08:42

this identity politics is not an important topic. Yeah. What de

01:08:42 --> 01:08:46

emphasizes on is when somebody's anemic, or demon slayer, or the

01:08:46 --> 01:08:49

Judas Dickerson's, or the other enemies like they have especially

01:08:49 --> 01:08:53

what they emphasize in training, like Rick defines themselves

01:08:54 --> 01:08:58

like tarbiyah I see so there's enough anger that's good when

01:08:58 --> 01:09:01

they're trying to train themselves in a day always study with their

01:09:01 --> 01:09:05

masters you know, Sensei, you know, the *.

01:09:06 --> 01:09:07

So, Mike,

01:09:08 --> 01:09:12

if you analyze you know, the or the structure of the Japanese or

01:09:12 --> 01:09:15

the manga you know, there are some like a common like message so

01:09:15 --> 01:09:19

islamicate message This is Islamic, but you know, the Islamic

01:09:19 --> 01:09:23

you know, the common like values like between the Islamic Islamic

01:09:23 --> 01:09:26

spirituality and also like Japanese cultures

01:09:27 --> 01:09:31

and about you know, about you know, the other possibilities or

01:09:31 --> 01:09:36

potential of the introduce or using this manga as a medium to

01:09:37 --> 01:09:42

introduce like Islam did audiences or whatever there are some like

01:09:43 --> 01:09:44

there are some

01:09:48 --> 01:09:51

people there who are you who are creating dislike, so what

01:09:51 --> 01:09:54

islamicate only meant was, I think there was one company in Saudi

01:09:54 --> 01:09:58

Arabia, they created only Mako the journey. Yeah, I think there is

01:09:58 --> 01:10:00

only is about the unit battle or the

01:10:00 --> 01:10:01

fear you know about Earth.

01:10:02 --> 01:10:05

And I personally, whether I

01:10:06 --> 01:10:11

also believed in this manga or using visual image can be, like

01:10:11 --> 01:10:18

whatever the option to introduce Islam, not only not only for non

01:10:18 --> 01:10:20

Muslim audiences, but also missing audiences. So

01:10:21 --> 01:10:24

I don't know. Have you seen this before? Let's see.

01:10:26 --> 01:10:30

Everything is somewhere. Move it over a little bit. Yeah. Japan,

01:10:30 --> 01:10:35

I'll move it over. Oh, this is not Japan is Cambodia. Bah, bah Jia.

01:10:35 --> 01:10:38

And I thought that was Yeah, Japan. Moving a little bit. The

01:10:38 --> 01:10:42

audience can see. Yes, yeah. Pull it out a little bit so everyone

01:10:42 --> 01:10:45

can see. Okay, but I thought it said Yeah, Japan,

01:10:46 --> 01:10:50

not Japan. Batuan. Now who is that? Is that a character that you

01:10:50 --> 01:10:56

made? Oh, yeah. So, so I drew this character. I call this series of

01:10:56 --> 01:10:58

hijab in Ninja series, hijab is dangerous.

01:11:00 --> 01:11:03

And jebby newbies? Yeah, the reason why I've started designing

01:11:03 --> 01:11:08

this character is I actually I really liked drawing things. But

01:11:08 --> 01:11:12

when I become Muslim, I stopped growing. Because my friend told me

01:11:12 --> 01:11:15

that there was really like a great Hadees like criticizing, like a

01:11:15 --> 01:11:20

drawing the human figure. Yeah. And I believe it was a forearm. I

01:11:20 --> 01:11:23

still I still, this is really controversial. So now I stopped in

01:11:23 --> 01:11:25

a drawing for artists like eight years or at least 10 years

01:11:25 --> 01:11:29

something. Yeah, but there was the

01:11:30 --> 01:11:33

TV series, not TV. Oh, yeah, those TV series

01:11:36 --> 01:11:41

in that.tv, was made by Disney's actually. And there was like a

01:11:41 --> 01:11:46

Muslim characters. Yeah. And in Disney advertise that this is like

01:11:46 --> 01:11:51

first like Muslim character in the streets, and I watched a TV

01:11:51 --> 01:11:56

series. And it was not that I really enjoyed it. But still, I

01:11:56 --> 01:12:00

got some, like, hidden messages behind it. Those like more than

01:12:00 --> 01:12:03

entertainment, especially Western entertainment, like even though,

01:12:03 --> 01:12:06

you know, they create like Muslim characters or fictional

01:12:06 --> 01:12:09

characters, like they are trying to reduce the Muslim illness into

01:12:09 --> 01:12:13

coming back ethnic identities. Yeah. They tried to put this

01:12:13 --> 01:12:16

character into identity politics again, which I repeated measuring

01:12:16 --> 01:12:21

this word identity politics. Yeah. And even you know, overall, now

01:12:21 --> 01:12:23

the Western entertainment, they always talk about diversities.

01:12:24 --> 01:12:27

They always talk about you know, the like equalities. Humanities,

01:12:27 --> 01:12:32

but have you ever seen like really cool, like Muslim like a main

01:12:32 --> 01:12:33

character in

01:12:35 --> 01:12:39

there to rose the best of gut? Yeah, able to read the Turkish

01:12:39 --> 01:12:42

like entertainments doing the same but yet, like, those characters

01:12:42 --> 01:12:46

are also big fans or to ruse but they also try to prove something.

01:12:47 --> 01:12:49

Like they're always trying to prove the Muslims are great.

01:12:49 --> 01:12:53

Muslims are cool. And they these are all like, in that area over

01:12:53 --> 01:12:58

the contemplation about so and also they everything, any cool

01:12:58 --> 01:13:03

hijab he charges, almost like a zero. Yeah. They, when they, you

01:13:03 --> 01:13:05

know, typically Muslim, Nigerian Muslim, and they always talk

01:13:05 --> 01:13:09

about, you know, they're, like female Muslims, who are suffering

01:13:09 --> 01:13:13

for the pressure from the Arctic paternalistic societies, if we try

01:13:13 --> 01:13:18

and like, trying to see for the Liberty. But if we go into the

01:13:18 --> 01:13:22

kind of negative image, and it makes me it makes us so tired of

01:13:22 --> 01:13:27

watching it. Yeah. So that's why you have an x ray, and even Japan

01:13:27 --> 01:13:30

as well. Now we have like many, like second generation and surgery

01:13:30 --> 01:13:31

Muslims.

01:13:32 --> 01:13:36

But since you know, there will be no Muslim countries, you know,

01:13:36 --> 01:13:39

some of them. Some of them, they were scared of, like wearing the

01:13:39 --> 01:13:42

hijab, and even though they wear hijab, and when it goes to the

01:13:42 --> 01:13:46

schools, you have to encounter correct prejudice or something you

01:13:46 --> 01:13:50

get bullied. And imagine that, you know, they were they are

01:13:50 --> 01:13:53

practicing Islam. When the in the facing lots of challenges in the

01:13:53 --> 01:13:56

schools, especially in the public schools, and imagine what kind of

01:13:56 --> 01:14:00

emotion they have their wedding going back to the home. Yeah, they

01:14:00 --> 01:14:04

feel so alone, you know, they sought help helpless. Yeah. So and

01:14:04 --> 01:14:07

when I hear that kind of stories, I started to think that, you know,

01:14:07 --> 01:14:11

I want to encourage, and I want to, we need to encourage our

01:14:11 --> 01:14:15

children, not just making yourself happy and we need to invest on

01:14:15 --> 01:14:19

next generation as we need to encourage those young generations

01:14:19 --> 01:14:24

that saying that you know, practicing some is call them being

01:14:24 --> 01:14:27

born as Muslims. Cool, that beautiful the abstract is

01:14:27 --> 01:14:32

installed is called, so that's why I have a design. I started

01:14:32 --> 01:14:35

designing the cute hijabi characters, which is a company

01:14:36 --> 01:14:40

which doesn't exist in the western like entertainment. How are you

01:14:40 --> 01:14:45

going to translate this into a show? Show? First, I need to do a

01:14:45 --> 01:14:49

manga. So I'm practicing myself, but isn't really like a long step.

01:14:50 --> 01:14:53

But I think this is really important because I didn't know

01:14:53 --> 01:14:54

what the

01:14:56 --> 01:14:59

I knew about the context in America, but in the case of Japan,

01:15:00 --> 01:15:01

Usually just you know, the art

01:15:03 --> 01:15:07

world entertainment field is like dominated by liberals. And the

01:15:07 --> 01:15:12

liberal means like not very sincere about, like tradition.

01:15:13 --> 01:15:18

And India. And you can easily do, especially with Muslim communities

01:15:18 --> 01:15:23

that we conservatives, so we don't be hesitant to enter this field.

01:15:23 --> 01:15:28

But because we are not showing our initiative in this field. So

01:15:28 --> 01:15:31

that's why there are some people who are using this like media to

01:15:31 --> 01:15:35

like, distort the image about Islam. Yeah. And I heard that, you

01:15:35 --> 01:15:38

know, Deaf without even destroying human image.

01:15:39 --> 01:15:43

I'll stick with this controversial, but there are some,

01:15:44 --> 01:15:51

like legal opinion that it is still permissible to write like 2d

01:15:51 --> 01:15:54

characters as long as it remained 2d, like not as just the medical

01:15:54 --> 01:15:58

opinion. Yep. Just if it's the full body, and it's to D.

01:16:00 --> 01:16:06

It's mcru. If it's not full body, and it's to D, it's Halon. If it's

01:16:07 --> 01:16:10

full body, and three dimensional,

01:16:11 --> 01:16:16

is forbidden. Yes. Yeah. So that and these are good ideas. Look at

01:16:16 --> 01:16:22

a half $1 line. Yes. Line. So it may mean if mommy knows the best

01:16:22 --> 01:16:26

example or the practicing, like, best example, Islamic culture,

01:16:26 --> 01:16:34

still, we are facing, like real toxic, like visual image when we

01:16:34 --> 01:16:36

are like opening Netflix or Disney Plus, there needs to be an

01:16:36 --> 01:16:40

alternative for sure. No doubt about Yeah. So then do we Muslim

01:16:40 --> 01:16:42

even though this is like a controversial area like we

01:16:42 --> 01:16:46

consider the Muslim show in misadventures field. Yeah. And,

01:16:46 --> 01:16:51

but also, since this is a new field, not only about it already,

01:16:51 --> 01:16:53

but in education, like in the Muslim community, we're not

01:16:53 --> 01:16:56

investing much on like education also made art.

01:16:57 --> 01:16:59

But you know, this anime, anime is like a

01:17:01 --> 01:17:05

collective, like a project, you have to hire like, no, the

01:17:05 --> 01:17:08

hundreds, or sometimes you know, this not, there are hundreds of

01:17:08 --> 01:17:12

people who may 1 of all, you know, person to me, write down the plot,

01:17:13 --> 01:17:16

or person to look at designing characters, or a person to make a

01:17:16 --> 01:17:18

animated, like,

01:17:19 --> 01:17:22

make this animation so that it takes time to

01:17:24 --> 01:17:28

get started by writing the right novel, like a novel. Yeah. So that

01:17:28 --> 01:17:31

we can use it as a script in a plot. And Inshallah, you know,

01:17:31 --> 01:17:36

once I finish, you know, I want to find someone, like a manga artist,

01:17:37 --> 01:17:42

to like, make to draw his character into like, a manga. And

01:17:42 --> 01:17:46

if it becomes, like, successful, you know, I want to make like an

01:17:46 --> 01:17:49

animated version as well, like story of, you know, the Muslim

01:17:49 --> 01:17:52

like a ninja. And by the way, the Muslim character I haven't

01:17:52 --> 01:17:57

designed is the are either second generation Muslims or the the

01:17:57 --> 01:18:01

Muslim converts? Yeah, I mean, I would start, start getting it out

01:18:01 --> 01:18:05

there get getting excitement. And then you have companies like

01:18:05 --> 01:18:09

fictional frontiers, who would maybe know that world of

01:18:09 --> 01:18:13

production, and get it out there. Because it's a very, as you said,

01:18:13 --> 01:18:17

labor intensive, it's expensive, there's a lot of talent needed to

01:18:17 --> 01:18:20

put it together. And a lot of money's needed to fund it. But if

01:18:20 --> 01:18:22

you get it out there, you get the concept out there.

01:18:24 --> 01:18:26

You know, you'll you get the ball rolling.

01:18:27 --> 01:18:30

In that regard, I think the final frontier is doing a great job.

01:18:31 --> 01:18:34

Now, for example, you know, and I made this the or, like,

01:18:35 --> 01:18:39

you know, genocide of Israel is recommending, now we are

01:18:39 --> 01:18:43

boycotting lots of products. Yeah, I think this is really important.

01:18:43 --> 01:18:47

But boycotting something is also like, not enough. Yeah, like, what

01:18:47 --> 01:18:51

we need to do we need to produce something. Yeah, we need to create

01:18:51 --> 01:18:52

our own ecosystem.

01:18:53 --> 01:18:57

Not only that, we need to create our own fruit, we need to create

01:18:57 --> 01:19:00

our own like books, we need to build our own universities, we

01:19:00 --> 01:19:04

need to build our own schools. And we even create our own character

01:19:04 --> 01:19:08

100 For example, we can criticize like Muslim fictional Muslim

01:19:08 --> 01:19:11

characters, which are created or designed by like non Muslim

01:19:11 --> 01:19:15

companies, but even like well, you're criticizing it as long as

01:19:15 --> 01:19:18

we're criticizing we just remain as the consumer of the content

01:19:18 --> 01:19:22

that's true. You're an objective content you know, we're just

01:19:22 --> 01:19:26

giving you all our own resources to a criticizing you just waste of

01:19:26 --> 01:19:31

time. Yeah, we're important that we need to show our creativity and

01:19:31 --> 01:19:37

we need to show with Ebola I personally believe that my next

01:19:37 --> 01:19:41

job we ninja, other cooler than any any other like infection was

01:19:41 --> 01:19:44

in character in this world. No, maybe I remember guarding but I

01:19:44 --> 01:19:46

have this kind of self competence.

01:19:47 --> 01:19:51

And what you know, and also this is I'm not drawing for myself, you

01:19:51 --> 01:19:55

know, I also like drawing but I am investing on the the younger

01:19:55 --> 01:20:00

generation. And I want to tell them, that being wasn't

01:20:00 --> 01:20:04

Muslims core converting Islam is cool, like studying Navajo and

01:20:04 --> 01:20:08

Sarraf is like a cool, like, pursuing in a traditional religion

01:20:08 --> 01:20:13

of Islam is cool. And this is this is what makes us different from

01:20:13 --> 01:20:17

the like modern like secular people because they are only

01:20:17 --> 01:20:22

confined themselves to identify to define themselves in the world of

01:20:22 --> 01:20:28

identity politics, but what we what the Muslim can do is that we

01:20:28 --> 01:20:31

need to use a resistance to encourage the young generation

01:20:33 --> 01:20:37

because Muslim community has the youngest target the Muslim

01:20:37 --> 01:20:40

community, the youngest like it was my birthday is in a majority

01:20:40 --> 01:20:44

societies. So what we have to do is that we have to work for the

01:20:44 --> 01:20:49

youth and this is the philosophy of the photo Interviewer If you

01:20:49 --> 01:20:52

want me to youngness but the youngest doesn't mean that just

01:20:52 --> 01:20:58

being young, it means like you will acquire your spirituality to

01:20:58 --> 01:21:00

become like nature enough

01:21:01 --> 01:21:05

to like investing so this is what they do is and this is what we

01:21:05 --> 01:21:07

surely have the Thar you know the

01:21:08 --> 01:21:10

well we'll be observing your project your project so you have

01:21:10 --> 01:21:16

many projects and bringing Islam into the Japanese culture and hope

01:21:16 --> 01:21:19

we put in our two cents and trying to get your word out there about

01:21:20 --> 01:21:23

about you and what you're doing. So just like a Lafayette and for

01:21:23 --> 01:21:28

all this information about what you're doing, and we were all with

01:21:28 --> 01:21:32

you, and a lot of comments you're very happy with hearing about what

01:21:32 --> 01:21:37

you're doing here and putting out and may developing a character and

01:21:37 --> 01:21:41

a lot of curiosity about your other DAU endeavors. So hopefully

01:21:41 --> 01:21:42

we will

01:21:44 --> 01:21:48

Crossroads again. cross paths again and I make dua for you.

01:21:48 --> 01:21:52

Allah gives you a lot of Sofia can all of what you're doing. You got

01:21:52 --> 01:21:55

a lot on your shoulders there not a lot of support in the Japanese

01:21:55 --> 01:22:00

Dawa scene about men lots out to give you Tofik and bless your work

01:22:00 --> 01:22:03

just like Hello, thank you very much. Thank you

01:22:07 --> 01:22:12

speaking of Dawa, and, and Islam entering in places while we're

01:22:12 --> 01:22:15

doing watching this someone sent said to me before you log off for

01:22:15 --> 01:22:18

the day, you got to watch this little clip

01:22:21 --> 01:22:25

on churches becoming mosques, not in Japan, I think it's in America,

01:22:25 --> 01:22:29

but they but piggybacking off of what Professor Yamamoto was

01:22:29 --> 01:22:35

talking about his experience in Japan, and with Japanese Muslims.

01:22:35 --> 01:22:37

So I'm gonna listen to this. We're gonna listen to this, but I hope

01:22:37 --> 01:22:39

the hope is not going to be cursing in here. So let's see.

01:22:39 --> 01:22:43

This is Jeremy McClellan, an Irish comedian.

01:22:44 --> 01:22:46

Generally has good attitude towards Muslims. But let's see

01:22:46 --> 01:22:51

what he's saying here. Hopefully, the the internet isn't too slow.

01:22:53 --> 01:22:53

And we could hear it.

01:22:56 --> 01:22:59

Alright, it's buffering. And it's two minutes long. So we'll see.

01:23:01 --> 01:23:02

In the meantime,

01:23:03 --> 01:23:05

now, right, this is buffering, I don't know if it's gonna take

01:23:07 --> 01:23:07

a long time.

01:23:14 --> 01:23:17

What constitutes waste of time, according to the Maliki school,

01:23:17 --> 01:23:22

says, Adam, I believe that is all stuffy. But then again, we do have

01:23:22 --> 01:23:24

definitions for low alive.

01:23:25 --> 01:23:29

law law is that which has no purpose in itself, but has a

01:23:29 --> 01:23:34

purpose for something else. You could call most sports as live,

01:23:34 --> 01:23:38

where in itself, there is no value, no meaning to kicking a

01:23:38 --> 01:23:42

ball in the net, or shooting a ball through a hoop. But there is

01:23:42 --> 01:23:42

a lot of the

01:23:44 --> 01:23:50

other benefits, namely, friendship, exercise, teamwork,

01:23:51 --> 01:23:56

then there's low has no benefit in itself, nor does it have a

01:23:56 --> 01:24:01

secondary benefit. And that's like for example, a lot of lot of card

01:24:01 --> 01:24:05

games games with dice board games, there's no real benefit in itself,

01:24:05 --> 01:24:06

nor

01:24:07 --> 01:24:11

secondary benefit. Unless you really try to stretch it out, like

01:24:11 --> 01:24:15

really played mental gymnastics to show how it's beneficial. Most

01:24:15 --> 01:24:20

video games I would probably say, Don't also our level, not live. So

01:24:20 --> 01:24:21

if someone

01:24:22 --> 01:24:26

plays basketball for an hour, every day, and another plays video

01:24:26 --> 01:24:29

games for an hour every day, one of them is going to come out

01:24:29 --> 01:24:32

healthy one of them is going to come out unhealthy. Right? So

01:24:32 --> 01:24:37

that's the difference between live and low is not that's not like

01:24:37 --> 01:24:41

that's the breakdown that I liked the most that I saw that I like

01:24:41 --> 01:24:46

the most between playing and just wasting time. And playing is

01:24:46 --> 01:24:52

forbidden when it obstructs what's more important than it low is

01:24:52 --> 01:24:56

forbidden or discouraged. Absolutely. complete waste of time

01:24:56 --> 01:24:57

is discouraged

01:24:59 --> 01:24:59

or forbidden

01:25:00 --> 01:25:03

Absolutely all right this video is not coming up because internet I

01:25:03 --> 01:25:05

guess it's too slow here. But in any event let's

01:25:06 --> 01:25:09

we're gonna wrap up right now. Just come along here and

01:25:09 --> 01:25:13

everybody. We will be back tomorrow with tomorrow's guests

01:25:14 --> 01:25:18

as a guest not as a host Paul Williams from blogging theology.

01:25:19 --> 01:25:21

Thank you all very much this is Aqua locally and on Subhanak

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