Shadee Elmasry – Full Interview Shaykh Yusuf ibn Sadiq
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Well, welcome to the Safina society podcast. And we're here
again, discussing the humbly method for another part on our
playlist. We had such a great reception of the previous humbly
school podcast, which I think it had seven parts in it and a lot of
people were listening and chiming in, and one of the brothers who
chimed in and said, Hey, there's another young humbly, that Sheikh
and scholar that I want you to interview. And that's my friend
Jomo Ali. He called me up and he said, Listen, you need to to Misha
Yusuf. I said, I know about your use of I have his book on Aqeedah.
It's an amazing book on the humbly creed, which I recommend everyone
to get. You can just type in Madras at humbly, they have a an
Instagram page. They have a website, and they have a Facebook
page. And you can also take classes as my man Jomo takes
classes with them. So Jomo it took the initiative, he acted and he
arranged for us at hamdulillah to have this meeting, which we're
about to have with Jeff usif. This is like we're learning more about
the humbly school let me state the intention because in the metal
metal Binya, the intention here is, you always see Hanafi Shafi
madaket, okay, in the SID institutions, and it's this fear
of touching the humbly school but if you go back in history, this is
a noble school that needs to be given attention, and in a sense
sort of revived the inclusion of it inside of the the other
alongside the other mother hip. Problem being we all know what the
issue is that any of the Esha or the people have to solve, they're
afraid to touch it, or else it's going to destroy their to solve or
they're sad, and there's going to be some kind of conflict. And by
doing these podcasts, I want the hungry scholars to remove that
sort of fear by explaining to us the living chain of the humbly
school and separating from it what people tend to be concerned about
a worried about. And to try to bring the hammer at school, this
noble method of Satan, Imam Ahmed have been humbled back into the
sphere, right back into the the alongside with the other three
methods and not some kind of Asterix alongside of it, and
people are afraid. Is this a meth lab? Is this Sofia? Is this what
habia? Are they going to take away our two so far? They're going to
cut up our beads, what's going to happen? That's our intention here,
and we're going to let the machine do the speaking. So why don't we
turn to Jomo Jomo is a brother from he's from New Jersey. He
knows all about New Brunswick where I live. He's old school, and
he's a student both at Safina society Anna and Madras at
Humboldt Iya. Taking classes so Jomo, why don't you introduce to
us our guests ship use of Masada
Rahim Al hamdu Lillahi Rabbil Alameen wa Salatu was Salam ala
Rasulillah. While Ali was hobby as Maui.
Let me say that I'm honored to be in the present presence of both my
two shoe
as say you use have been Saudi and humbly a Dr. Shadi and sha Allah
to Allah. This is
an answer of many doers that we brothers here in America have been
having, have been making. And this is answered just podcast as a as
the answer to those two hours, when I will read the biography of
my shed use of Ben sodic and humbly. His name is Sheikh Yusuf
bin Saudi can humbly his Kony is Abu Muslim, and his lockup is
bewafa. Dean.
Some of the scholars he studied under
for both Al Azhar and scholars from outside of it from Egypt, as
well as other countries. The most important of the scholars he
studies under is the grand chef of the high Nabila chef Dr. Muhammad
Syed and humbly, the main teacher of the humbly method in JAMA Al
Asad Sharif, Sheikh Yusuf also said
Read on the show Achmed, my bird Abdul Karim, che Ahmed Omar
Hashem, and Sheikh Hasina Shafi, all three being from the highest
committee of scholars of Al Azhar a Sharif. He also studied on the
sheikh Ashraf McKelvey Sheikh hasm al Kilani and Sheikh Jamal Farooq
at the park, Sheikh Ali Saleh and as Saudi Sheikh Ravi Allah offer a
sheikh fatty Hijazi Sheikh Mohammed Hassan of man, a sheikh
Saad Saad Jai wish from outside of Egypt Sheikh Yusuf studied with
Pakistan based on how did Sheikh Mohammed bin Abdullah shujaa
Abadi, and the sheikh also studied worldly Sciences at Mr.
International University and the Faculty of Humanities, and as long
as combining the study of linguistics, translation and
English literature, the latter being the focus of his graduation
thesis.
Some of the books that should use have been sodic study are
from the branches of Islam acknowledges under the
aforementioned scholars, and what follows is a general yet far from
complete summary. Under check Dr. Muhammad said Al humbly study shot
or coco Almunia in the soul of FIP and he also studied this book was
shake I should have McAfee.
And in humbly Fick, he studied the dial ibid axon and Dr. sadati Daya
axon, looked at Sadat, he died a RhoGAM shot on the toilet. Acacia
fell Pienaar in Hadith he studied must not imagine me with Sheikh
Dr. Mohammed site humbly, as well as well as Sharm El Hadi JAL by
here in animal column and lwml part of collide and a peon and
humbly Akita and also grammar novel
by belaga rhetoric logic month to check Use of also study logic
under Sheikh Hamza al Kilani. And Sheikh Hasina Shafi, who taught
him from Yahoo I'll earn the latter also taught them Hadith and
to Sabbath. We share Ahmed my bad Abdullah carry mystery tragedy by
Ravi and most Allah al Hadith as well fashionable get shot on fear
al Hadith
with Sheikh Jamala followed the path he studied with McCallum and
then the Sheikh Mohammed bin Abdullah job Abadi studied Mustafa
Shafi and Alma water and Hadith. He also studied Hadith on the
sheikh side side Jabesh and, and apart from studying grammar with
Sheikh Dr. Mohammed site at humbly Sheikh Yusuf also study that
academia shun Alma Cody and parts of Qatar and the DA and the Sheikh
Ali Sol and us hurry, as well as shot had been appealed. I'll
figure Ben Malik, and the shake Robbie Garfield, and other books
in grammar and morphology was study on the Sheikh Mohammed
Hasson of man.
And to go into some of his teaching posts, Sheikh Yusuf holds
an official teaching post at Manasa shake, mood, teaching
various Islamic sciences such as humbly FIP, Hadith and tafsir. He
is also the main teacher of humbly of the humbly madrasa online
platform, which provides both short and long term online courses
in both Arabic and English languages in subjects such as
Zulu, fic, RP,
FIP, r, theta and Hadith. Outside teaching the sheikh has also
worked as an English interpreter. It's not making worldly studies
coupled with his work and fluency in Arabic and English mean he is
aptly qualified to teach the Islamic sciences to an English
speaking audience.
Okay, excellent. And now people know where to find check use of
terms of if you're in Egypt. It's the Amoud institution of an eye
movement that I started I moved or is it it was in Madras did I moved
to Germany, I moved
in Egypt and Madras had somebody online and of course if you type
in use of inside up, you will find a number of YouTube videos and
other beneficial things. Let's start with talking about the
Senate and the Sunnah is famous for and our main men hedge is men
hedge a Senate one will as Ahmed Messiah. So we are living
tradition. That's the whole difference between academics and
really like the traditional what people say traditional means. It's
a living chain, a living tradition of scholarship from the time of
the Messenger of Allah when he was sent them down to our times. The
four chains that have survived go through the four main Imams. Last
episode on the humble
School Shikata and HUDs mentioned that nudged is the location of the
bulk of humbly SN Eid
Schiff usif. Now is involved in Egypt and he has many humbly
scholars in Egypt. So I'd like Sheikh, if you could kindly and
first of all, thank you so much for joining us and taking the time
out, if you can kindly expound upon the existence of the chain,
the Senate of the humbly school in Egypt, some of its alum, some of
their positions. And until today, well, how is it flourishing today?
Where is it today and its status today
hammered by Ernie, he will be here as you know, a lot of people don't
know Clayton, thank you for having me.
Somebody must have.
It is claimed to be a little bit different from the other
motherhood there is no book and fiction that has been authored
to tell us about the state of humanity.
It's not like the Shatter image. For instance, we do not have
something like in what but in the medical.
We do not have many images to add at the time of the alarm like
Hanafy. So it's based on the snare. There is nothing in the
Hanbali method that glows without
that's why we have a lot of combat in the theme in the mental health
that we're serving. Another
issue of these net is a little bit problematic since
the time of Hamilton doctrine will help.
And although the madhhab has been
established, in terms of the relied upon position of the
Messiah in Egypt, by great Musharraf like in the German
route, he will always be the golden chain of humbleness.
And booty afterwards, the MSD was an Egyptian scholar and it Tao and
modelli was also an Egyptian scholar.
At some point, we did not really find any traces of the Hambali
order Egyptian is net of the humbly master
when I started studying with my Sheikh, the grand chief of the
humbleness in Lesley Sharif citizenship promoting somebody
when I went to a gym and as I received to study with him, I told
him,
where does the habeas net go, where does it go? Who is your
shoe? Question that my she would
receive easily without having any troubles or feeling challenged by
the question. He said my issue or and he listed a number of things.
He said, I read them very matter from a number of you. The first
name he mentioned, surprisingly, was safe.
Safe had Aveda in 30
Abdullah knockin Rahim Allah God
This makes one feel that yes, this this is progressing, there humbly
Meza exists in Nezzer exists in Surya
and then he said I only met him for 40 days and they received a
lot from him. But the real is net of the 100 bill.
will be found he said will be found in the legislation in
theory. Then he listed the number of you the tote him in a Jimmy as
Harry the number of few that as a sheriff.
Important from * Shem from Sydney.
We have I am in the end, I am a man of Hadith. I'm not sure why. I
will state in to some point.
I had to because I'm very much doesn't really have a lot of
people who
defend it well, when it comes to showing the real humbleness.
I had to because my mache made me to do so.
All the SNA that you receive when you take an Aegis from humbly
shake nowadays, most most of the SMD they will go through Hamilton
Abby will have his grandsons or some cranberry Ness D mache who
held the RTD of Hamilton Abdullah
Have one way or another maybe the were
harsher than some of them now, they will help himself when it
comes to these issues of acne.
But we have what I call a clean is net and when I call it clean snare
This is because they do not like Yuppiedom and they do not like
holy Muhammad Abdul Wahab or his students or his companions in
general is has had Indian
Hanbury scholars
and they said in general, some of them can be humbled.
This clean is now goes through * shame in the family of a
Shakti
Shakti was a great scholar in the handyman he had an Hashi you had
hashey on ladymum
exam remain a dictionary, one of the most important books in Islam
and this family, the family and something they kept and preserved.
tambellini Snell.
And this is not at some point went
to the family of the Mufti of Duma. Duma is
like a city near the mosque or in domestic in Syria.
And this is the snare that my Sheikh received from the grandson
of the Mufti of Bucha. That goes to the rest of the image of the
humbly method, every one of them including Jeff Islam, Damian
himself,
without passing through hundreds, if not,
this shows you that there are many Hambali sad other than the snare
that goes through the roof man. It has been
the grandson of Muhammad Abdullah
this is one thing when it comes to the ration of hamburger master
books, you know that a lot of the scholars especially the sad
scholars, they do not really care about the issue of the net when it
comes to the snap, according to the meaning of of it. In lumen
Hadith, they care more about
taking receiving from the sheikh, regardless of giving you an ijazah
or following the protocol of narrating what you receive from
the sheikh.
If we take this into consideration, you'll find a lot
of few from whom my shake receive very much especially in the
university as a university and they were all from * Shem
except for one to
k came from Egypt whose name is Chief after Roselle offered
Rama Lodi and he never cared about this issue of giving Egypt Israel
Yes.
Okay, so that means basically most of the
senators are combined between you said some in Egypt, but the bulk
from automa is Shem. Can you tell us something about your direct
ship which you mentioned Sade Mohammed had humbly Could you give
us a little brief biography of him and his positions on important
matters if I'm gonna tell you that somebody has been for a while now,
the the only shake of the humble he must have in German as Sharif.
It's a very honorable position.
The grand imam of Lazarus Sharif
requested him to teach the unbelievers in general as
before COVID The she had a couple of groups in general especially he
was teaching the unbelievers have many for combating fraud.
He has been doing this maybe since 2006 2008.
The safe is the diamonds didn't have the majority of the living
scholars in the high committee of scholars essentially.
And
he teaches how many men have outside leather sleeve as well.
And people nowadays even the ones who do not really follow the
arcade have additional knowledge and they regard him as the
shape of a habit.
Now
okay, now let's turn to something that you've pointed in alluded to
a couple of times so far, which is that the Senate that goes through
Mohammed bin Abdullah hub, the center
that does not go through how much of an algebra herb and here this
is what you know, some people brought to my attention and wasn't
really paying much attention to the hamady history when, as I was
studying, it's not something that I spent too much time studying
that the evening to me It marks a branch and that some of the 100
EBITA followed him some of the henna but it did not follow him in
what did they follow Him? And what did they not follow Him? How are
they perceiving one another? And how did they develop afterwards?
Because this is really the the main point of contention. And
inshallah we're just talking about this to learn, not not for any
sectarian reason, and maybe it's different in Egypt, here in
America, we're trying to, you know, have some fair and honest
but at the same time, cordial and good relations because we have so
many other problems. But there's, there's that doesn't mean that we
can explore these missa and, and, and state, you know, our opinions
and they state their opinions frankly and openly regarding
matters of fit copied to sell off etcetera. So, if you can kindly
expand upon or expound upon this. Subtle, not subtle, but actually
pretty important difference between in within the humbly
method. Okay.
My name is gonna be a little bit complicated if compared with the
other mother who
complicated but good. This is not bad. Why? Because when you say I'm
having Daddy, this could mean a couple of things. I am very I am
very fit. I'm very lucky that I'm very into solve, you want to call
it to solve you want to call it this key, I call it what do you
want in this branch of leg, because when you say Hambali into
solve into skier dramatically, you you see safety does not have the
collegiality. For instance.
This is the main figure when it comes to this branch.
And Muhammad himself falls then an imam in this field as an
advantage if he said, Imam fita Manning in eight branches.
One of which is to solve one of which is this key,
humbly in aqidah,
or humbling, in fact,
when I talked about the humbling snare, I was talking about the
embellies net effect, which might be somebody's net in anarchy, and
they said that even goes to certain certain things.
And yet, I rejected Muhammad Abdul Wahab.
And this rejection is not because of his accident,
it's because of his attitude towards to handle him as
he rejected
the
most important two books in the face of integrity in unbelievers
and acknowledgement. And he said that they contradict with the
Nasus. The clear statements of
this means that we have approximately 900 years of effort
less than 900 years 700 years of efforts exerted by many scholars.
And who doesn't respect that and he claims that yeah, oh, there is
the head almost of there is the head. This contradicts with that
lease statements of the mannequin. Yanni Ahmed made clear statements,
those colors they just ignored them, and they chose to follow
anything yet. This will set by Muhammad Abdul Wahab you can find
it in the Hashi have an awesome was one of the scholars have
interviewed one of the scholars who embraced
Mohammed Abdullah in his Hashi on a row. And moreover, this is one
thing that's why we cannot accept such a man in the writing and
acknowledgement that he rejected in writing the books that was
summarized from an acknowledgement that he rejected. When it comes to
me they may in fact, in Tamia is one of the most important scholars
in the embodiment of Tolkien, you about the grandson Jesse slim.
They didn't they mean
he didn't
establish a different branch of the embodiments. Even though they
may had his head. And in them, you had books,
all of his books. In fact, most authored were authored according
to
let's not say
to rely on composition, but the relied upon methodology of
authoring books in the Hanbali Meza. He never and his students,
never also books, Moton texts, that that can be a part of a
curriculum to highlight or mention or teach people that is the head
of socialism claiming
it was Hanbury only humbly we are talking about the most important
man after shaking Islam off with Emma and his grandfather, mash the
deep Damia in the ham bellies.
So, when it comes to fat, there is no tiny branch of the hamburger,
either handy or not handle.
When we look into his memory fidelity, this was compiled by
someone else, it was fed our in the end, he wrote down a photo and
send it to someone, this was not the end this was but what you can
benefit from it, but you cannot call it yet this is an alternative
branch of the company must have and in the end the company must
have is not a manual has a soul. And you see the awful if you
follow them, you wish they had can belong to the company whether if
you do not, then this is not humbly and your image that is no
problem. But this is not a Hanbury position.
Now this was about
I think the question about the Devi branch has to be inochi, the
tiny branch of the Han Venomoth.
I think this is an easy discussion.
If you read his
short texts, if you read his answers, Ahmed rejected all the
Calamy
methods,
or the method methods that rely on a milkman. This was his method,
they must have have a self.
All the Hannibal to follow the deed of agreement held the same
position.
The vast majority of Jaitley slum Epitome his books are full of Qlm.
How can this be a branch of the hierarchy?
If you want to say that, then we'll take anything in the Azure
era. They
supported and strengthened Yaquina of self by logical proofs. Let's
agree on that. But the message itself is different.
From the humbly message, the message itself is rejected and
prohibited by Hanabi. I'm not here talking about differences between
Russia or China when I'm talking about what somebody must have is
inactive.
Such an attitude
is not accepted in the harmony master. Let's stop at something
that socialism Tamia said. He said,
I never
I can say it in Arabic and I will try to translate it. Let me refer
to her me and Cocteau. The Messiah is Siffert it was defending
himself and he was not debating he was answering many questions by
Aeschylus scholars at the time and to defend himself. He said I never
opened
the discussion of Allah's attributes with Lehmann,
the HANA villa, the amount that they say in the rocker, it can be
said to anyone
and even Taymiyah himself set
the aqidah of my ancestors from the HANA villa, they suppose in
the most authentic RV, it happens, the man rejected
and he said the feeder is not taken from Armand Hammer, the
feeder is not taken from and it's not taken from those who are
better than
because there are there is a matter of his authority be a teeny
he realized that
if they may use self doesn't agree on that part of a Hanbury brands
at the time tiny branch of the hamburger yaki
feeder is the hamburger
now,
so then if that being the case, then
Can you explain how
it maintain me as works are filled with Kadem when the common
understanding is that
imminent Tamia is waging war on kids. So, can you kindly explain
you know, to us, how exactly
is filled with Kadem methodology? Can you give examples, specific
examples and general principles they may want to
refute? Yes, I wanted to refute the
car key, I wanted to refute the idea of people who rely on it
collect a lot.
And he studied the waves and he studied them, they have very well.
The discussion
this this is the same position this the refutation of these APA
it might seem the same position that I haven't been, I would hope.
Let's assume this
is correct.
I am humbled and now I want to review the SRP, which is not
correct, by the way. And we can we can talk about this later.
I am humbly and they want to refute the SRT, the discussion
ends in like two seconds.
This is not enough for
this is this wasn't enough for second same thing, Jay said Damien
had a dispute with the SRL. This has to be done in their way away.
That guarantees a lot of a lot of works. A lot of books, a lot of
debates, maybe
everyday man
was the type of scholars who liked
explaining things, talking a lot.
That was the same thing that some of the Egyptian scholars said to
him when they met.
Or what some of the Egyptian scholars said about him when they
were asked to debate with him that he
loved talking, explaining,
presenting his madhhab.
Because he had a lot of right, this is my opinion, is he had a
lot of rain. So he wanted to express all of that
it's there is no better way to refute someone's mishap
than using their own tool.
And he didn't want the discussion to end in two seconds, like that
humbly discussion with the ASR.
How does the Hon buddy, you mentioned two things, which I'm
curious about.
You first mentioned that it's not even correct to enter into this
conflict and try to refute that shadow. That's number one. And if
you can explain why that is. And number two, you said, even if we
did, it would end in two seconds. So could you explain both of those
points?
Let's start with the point of we ended in two seconds.
Let's talk about the SRA era, in particular, when I say DSL and
particulars, then I'm not addressing the Metro today, for
instance.
Humbly actually confront
the problem basically is in the issue of that we
detailed interpretation of was a tribute.
One, one statement, this is how to have
the discussion period, the discussion at all. But what you're
doing is have a colon and Lady later and to explain this. You're
not saying you are talking about the last panel data without
knowledge and if doesn't mean knowledge means certainty, which
is the same thing that they say and they say, No, we have self and
we are following something that
we have already established in our muscle.
So the 100 the traditional humbly approach is to say, we're not
accepting the narrations that you say about the sell off period and
we're not entering into this meeting. So we're not even sitting
at the table.
Yes, because the humbly position this this is something that we
learn in our books Iraqi, which is said which will sit by himself.
We do not argue we do not have disputes we do not discuss when it
comes to the matters of it. And we explained that before this, this
method is really good.
By the way, the result of not discussing not having disputes not
having debates, this is a very good method. We can talk about it
later. This was the part about
why it ends in two seconds. And by the way, there isn't actually part
of it. Okay, we accept your mishap. The rest of the fleet, we
accept your mother, and it's one of our two choices, then
why bother?
And that's why you're saying that
the idea of conflict with Tasha IRA is also not my hook fee, not
desirable.
That's why at some point in family history, they decided that,
although this is a matter that we do not accept the matter of it
that way. But in the end, you say It's haram. When you say haram,
when you say where do you when you say mister have? What kind of
ruling is this? It's this is, this is a 30. ruling. This is haram. We
didn't say this is Cuf. Or this is Fiske.
It's haram. Right? Yes. In the end, does it affect their Arcada
know, Yanni, someone met doing this same coding to unbelievers
is actually there is not affected? Because it doesn't affect or harm
the issue of victim Z?
I say good. Yes. Speaking of 10 Z.
It's correct to say that the 100 biller? Well, you already said it.
So in general principle, they're not going to enter the discussion
at all. So therefore the correct answer, if I was to ask you, What
is your answer on one of the 10 Z he related Messiah? I shouldn't,
such as the eighth blah, I should expect you to say, I refuse to
discuss this. Masala would that be accurate? I talked about
discussions. I talked about discussions that are like debates,
not when, like debates this speech when I have a disagreement with
someone, or in other words to be accurate, the word Munawwara
according to its terminal logic and meaning, when you saw the last
one went on, yes, yes. Yes.
But it's and that's separate from me. And yes, when you're when
you're asked to explain something, or to present something in your
argument, that's why the author
Okay, and so how would they expand on that mess on that issue? I
mean, look, yes, yes. Yes.
The humbly humbly attitude is not to delve deep in the watershed.
So, the question itself, a novella
literally indicates that we are asking about the place of Allah's
panaderia the concept that all of the high nebula and when I say all
of the Hannibal, this has to be understood in a specific way. All
of the HANA villa, all of the HANA villa in our kids need not bring
someone who is humble, in fact, yet he doesn't agree on the
umbrella and say, Yeah, this was not the humbly who agreed on what
you said. All of the HANA Villa de Hana villa in Arcada. agreed on
this concept that Allah subhanaw taala doesn't exist in a place.
Last Canada Allah is the One who created the place. And the last
panel data cannot exist in a place yet they do not find any problem
with the question. I know what one of the possible interpretations
that we received from our mache
is that this
hadith of Algeria, and long
long with the hadith of Sai, father of Imran site
when they sell a lot of his Summit, because this is how the
Arab
think about things, you have something on on Earth and you have
something be Summit,
even the Salafi, they do not agree on saying
he is in a summit surrounded by the cloud surrounded by even them
they do not agree on that. But they say what has been said or
what has been approved by the prophets on the lorrison. We have
the same method.
No good. So the reason I'm asking this and some people might think
oh my goodness why's
syphilis at podcasts?
going into these old polemics, and there are some bigger issues. No,
it's what are we doing with the mess Allah is trying to show the
humbly creed in its to actually remove some of these
argumentations, right to show this explanation that you just gave,
which is a beautiful explanation to remove any type of barrier that
exists between Muslims about this issue for the precise reason that
we do have many bigger Messiah and issues that we're facing in the
world. And I think that these mazahub need to to realize that
they have so much more in common with one another. Now about the
history.
Jama, you had a question about the early habited. Would you want to
bring that up now? Sure.
Um,
medical law SQL check.
One of the questions that I had
was, could you touch on the the early companions of Imam Ahmed
read your law to Allah handle and the diversion of the madhhab.
Between his early companions, and the transmission, especially Daffy
Duck.
The transmission of the meth have been updated from his early
companions.
The students of Lima, middle of the low wind who were not on the
same level, they were, they have different levels when it comes to
knowledge, some of them when we add, like animal quality or
Muslim, in my opinion, and I would I would suggest, then, they were
mister he didn't mistake is a mistake in everything.
When I say mistake like that, at that time, we are talking about a
mistake in everything, not a mistake in our particular issues.
He had other students who just
they were just narrators, they were just transmitters of the
Maasai.
Some of those mache, or some of those students have admitted, they
didn't even
narrate anything related to it that
they were focused on raising the issues of alpha, they were focused
on raising the issues of Hadith. Now, the issues of
anyone who practices religion will have it. So they start expressing
their own art,
their own aerations their own mother, who, regardless of
Batman's Mother,
what I'm explaining now
is something that some of the mache didn't really notice. For
instance, you have Jeremy, normally my maximum 22 volumes,
everything that I've had said,
at least in the books that we we can access right now. 22 volumes,
it includes our key that these fake and other things when it
comes to that either. They mentioned the things that his son
said, or below that he that Abdullah said,
now that our learning rate through with Abdullah said some things
that some of
the some of the companions, some of the embedded scholars in the
third in the fourth century in the fifth century, this doesn't
represent.
It's not complicated. The aqidah of Arma can be mentioned in
something like fully sunnah, that everyone knows, you find it, not
in a separate book, it is narrated in the top it near the app.
It's a very short text that represents that aqidah of
the hidden humbled is simple and short. So it can easily be
integrated.
And you can see in each and every generation of the 100 bina a lot
of people who
narrated the Sharpie there and agreed on most of it.
And the differences
start to appear when you see the areas in which I've met of yellow
and who
didn't have any help.
So
The highlight of this is in a book called align well as
the author of this book, claimed that this is the athlete of
Ironman. So he had a chapter about what it was that either that was
narrated from Ironman, and other chapters about the SRE and
handling disagreements in which he mentioned a lot of things that
admin himself didn't mention, but they can be in the embodiment
because they are in harmony with admins principles,
this part of Achmed, XRT, that dark either that can be traced
back to
this is the part in which you find a lot of sne going to atman
indicating the same meaning that the author mentioned, they
say it is a connected saying,
and this author of Lionel Azhar it was in the 11th century.
So, you see, I'm not so, sure that actually does Aquila. Hi, that
actually was part of my next question was, I was going to ask
you about the development of the madhhab from the time of a shift
into Kodama to our time today, but pretty much you answered that
question
from the answer you just gave by the iron when I thought and in the
books of aspect, it's the books in which you find
the shoe of
scholar Like for instance, a scholar who had who had a lot of
fuel he would mention the names and his Eseni
the books have an S bet of the humbleness follows especially in
the face of theory, you will find a lot of them saying I generate
humbleness and the hand the sad archy from and you will see having
been ensnared full of 100
and it goes through if you put them
in any can with any call the areola and other people
okay. So, is it accurate for me to understand here that it Tamia he
parted from the Hannah Bella in his methodology? But are his
conclusions This is correct, would you say that the conclusions are
the same.
I will talk about the
how the HANA Villa oh the honeybee that after 10 million views
epitomes position in marketing.
They there was there was disagreement and a lot of conflict
between Annabella Usha
before me and after me and after Potamia, the HANA villa.
There had always been a minority
saying that Potamia was not an Imam was not taking Islam was not
a scholar. This wasn't the humbly position.
But they also didn't agree on everything that he said. They
rejected a lot of his positions. And they have a way of doing this.
And they all agree on it in a very strange way as if they have had an
agreement or something that we didn't know of. They always take
what suits them and they're awkward, which is the humbly
argument
and say, God says Listen to me, so and so and so. And even Tamia had
the detail in this issue that that contradicts with the Akita of
Alison Nojima and they would just omit this port and they would,
they would continue.
You see one of the greatest
not followers, but one of the one of the people who really
appreciated the Potamia suffering he would do so to make pots of
everyday meals are either and mentioned other pots that do not
really contradict with our APA.
And Bucha himself appreciated the good they mean the booty
shipments old Jonas and Hootie in Loudoun, motiva he, they will have
the Seaforth
man for himself at the rotten edict that we have this cifre and
in in other books in the humble investor, he appreciated me and he
called himself Islam and he defended
they wanted to coexist with selflessness.
Damia rejecting the ports that can never be in our mishap.
And this can be highlighted in a book called a Manhattan Akhmad,
the dark MSLT bility tune in.
It's basically based upon positions that they contain
yourself. And they were claimed to be humbled, in fact, in Africa and
in other things, and the author of the book was Ambarish color Kurumi
Kotomi said
these are not from the embodiment of these issues are not from the
harmony method they contradict with
this is this is the, this is the, this is the climax.
Before that.
They did what I explained, they did what I
told you, they will just make parts of these athletes mentioned
other parts.
No. Okay, so they coexisted and they as I'm sure this happened
with many, many
people who are much dead film with her, but I'm sure that at the very
minimum, Hannah Bella considered even sent me in which dead film
I've heard that they would agree with some of his HD heads and
disagree with other of his HD heads. And so that that you said
then the bigger break in the Senate, so much so that you
mentioned some of the Senate being a clean Senate as opposed to
Muhammad Abdul Wahab Senate. So that's where you would say there
is a bigger
break?
Yes. Okay. Now, if I can go into some of the furore, if you don't
mind. And this is where things get interesting, in the fatawa, Ibn
Taymiyyah, if we can get into some funny things, the three times
divorce fatwah is a very popular photo, namely that it happens and
there is a function, I have to say that many, many people in the Desi
community they actually misunderstand and believe that the
luck layup Elizabeth Aletheia, that divorce does not even occur.
That the correct method to do divorce is by saying it three
times. And I have to say that didn't now we're going we're
zooming in to the local issues here that this happens all the
time and they bring up Imitate me as fatwah and many, many Arab
scholars utilize Imitate me as Fretwell on this so as somebody
representative, can you tell us? Is this the meth hub of is this a
permissible Fetzer to be utilized according to the HANA biller?
Because according to the other three methods, they say no, but
according to the HANA Biller, can they use them?
This was one of the one of the issues that the Schaefer karumi
mentioned in his book that I've just mentioned, that he, he also
this book, and in the introduction, he mentioned this as
an example of the issues that will be
tackled in the book. He said, this can never be a position in the
movement, there is difference between the light the composition
of the Muslim and the position in general. And I believe that most
of the listeners understand this, a position in the manner means a
position that can be humbling, regardless of being
of having the qualifications that make them realize composition will
not sometimes it can never be the ladder composition. It's still a
position in the matter, it can never be relied upon position,
because it was said by one of the companions, one of the scholars of
the method and there is a felt work by atman will always be the
method or the composition. This can can never be a humbling
position check the same to me, I said, my grandfather, who we are
talking about, like the main to mache of the mother after handing
off like a demon called MMSD DDP Tamia. He said, My grandfather
used to give this fat word that and I'm surprised that some people
misunderstand the fat word that should be rejected. But the fact
of the matter is that
a lot of
it's only one they have divorced your your wife, but one one only,
it's not three.
This is the photo of me and he said that his grandfather used to
give this wetware secret.
I said, even okay, even if this doesn't this, doesn't this
indicate anything? Maybe measured to deem that very safe of the
madhhab?
Maybe he did so. We believe that they may have they may have not
tested it
Right.
I believe him thinking he his grand father date so
secretly secretly doesn't this indicate anything he didn't tell
me mentioned known narrated from him thought to be one of the many
positions, realized composition of the Heavenly Mother is that this
palette is big.
This is an innovation, this is haram and it is three times
divorce. It's not going to Okay, good. More.
We could say specific matters this is specific, but it relates to
somewhat of soon. And this regards the practices in the daily life of
a Muslim.
One example is Laylat Raja, the first night of Roger, the Arizona
you'll find in the their motor subwoofer holds that mocha FET if
it's has a basis with a, even a weak Hadith, or a saying of as a
hobby, enters into a practice becomes a practice. One of those
is the four nights and then other narrations or sayings five nights
in which DA is Mr. Job. One of them being the first night of a
job just as an example.
I want to my purpose in bringing this up is not to defend one side
or another but just to try to actually removed the things of
argumentation between both sides.
They also have a lot of I had a sunnah is to accept McCosh effects
of side of Hainan odia known and well known and,
and relied upon scholars who have Makaha fats, which is like a
spiritual unveiling, that has some basis in a weak Hadith or saying
of a Sahabi. In this sense, the saying of sage 90 Regardless of
its Senate, weak or otherwise, that say 90 is the one who said
there are four nights in which dua is Mr. Job. First note of Roger
being one, I want to ask the humbly approach to the Europe in
history, the utilization of McCosh efforts in ritual practices. Okay.
It was not enough, we're left up to now we've even left FIP I mean,
this may be as at the bottom issue of FIP. Right. So could you
expound upon on that?
That's first I agree that the HANA villa, in the through the accept
that we had is the we, the moderately we had this
and they even use it in the issues of fake issues of how they will
help in a certain way. It's not important to explain it now. But
they use it.
This is a fact. Another fact Batman himself used the week he's
not it hasn't been laid.
Yeah, and even some of my handy dandy Salafi to whom I might not
even mention the names.
They said no, it doesn't mean it hasn't relating. So even the
selfie of themselves, they have this position among themselves.
Akhmad used the weak Hadith
in a way, which is different from the rest of the Hannah villa, the
Anabela cannot do the same thing. Muhammad had a taste
and this taste made him accept some of the weak Hadees that he
himself considered weak.
Another fact Hanna villa in their soul, they rely on the fact word
of the companion and the must have have the companion and the
position of the companion certain requirements certain conditions
not important to mention them now.
When it comes to the issue of Alka shefa This is an Sophie issue and
Hannah Bella
in a very beautiful way had this separation between
sensitive issues of the soul and the issues of referred soul el
MiVoice in general.
So you will not find them talking about an AFOL
you will not find them talking about issues of self unless they
can be practice.
Yeah, and you see the books of CDC have the cognitive G you find his
his
his theories in itself apply in the books of adapt in embodiment.
It's clear, no one attached these things but if if we sit together
for like an hour, holding
Two books I can show people. This is from what the toddler said,
when it comes to sensitive issues, like do we rely on things that
were known by Luca Scheffer?
Am cashoffer this is generally what I mentioned things about them
or they have the companions the week Hadees.
This is general and there are mother in the soul regarding this
issue of immigration, but they have that, for instance, a mother
that says
you have cash, you are obliged to do this, but you do not tell other
people, you tell other people but they are not obliged. You tell
other people and they are obliged, as long as they trust you and
you're a trusted narrator. Matthew, the Anabela. Didn't go
there. didn't tackle this issue.
So they, so it's basically it's either going to be in a weak
Hadith or Colaba Sahabi. Any. If that's the case, then it doesn't
matter whether a Macassar confirms that or not, because you already
have the nuts. And there's evidence and if it's purely a
mocha, then then it's not acted upon now Jomo, I want to ask
another question, and then you can chime in with anything that you
have. My next question is also somewhat of an old soul, but it
relates to practices
element to GDB
is that accepts it or not as a source? Do you even remember that
even Tamia had a comment on this, he said, sometimes when you want
your DUA to be Mr. Jab, you go to one of the old massage that's no
longer used, and you give life to it, you print it, have admitted
gdb 10 gdb means experiential. From the experience is the ad dead
of vicar. This is a something that comes up a lot. And I want to know
the hand up somebody's approach to it. For example, husband alone emo
kid, it's well known that it's spread around amongst the many
machines that 450 is it's number a Salam o Allah rasool Allah for
Mara phillium 1000 in a day, is its number. Okay. And this is not
no one saying that this is Neff or Ned mandoo or anything, but it's
to gdb knowledge just like someone says, you know 15 setups in the
morning 15 At night, okay, it's just experience and things like
this run five miles a day is becomes a weird for many people in
the fitness world. Could you comment on the role of tragedy be
knowledge, this has to do with food? Yes. Angry. Previous
question also had to do with ozone. I hope when the listeners
when they when they listen to these things.
I hope that they do not rush into bringing this quote from this
Hanbury Shea who rejected something in particular, we are
talking about food, he also loved them.
Do they reject these ideas? Do they accept them? Can Can this be
something that doesn't contradict with the umbilical phone? They
suppose? This somehow was the question.
I haven't haven't been. And this is mentioned in the books we
used to believe that if you write some aid or reporter in a glass
of water, and give it to the pregnant woman or give it to the
sick person, this would help. Where is this in the Sunnah. If
you bring me a hadith, if you bring me that this was done by
some of
the companions
use I will give you other examples from Muhammad himself from other
from other people, at the time of Muhammad from other hand,
Abdullah, who
showed us that you sort of them as him can never be contradictory
with such things. If you tried something, and it resulted in
another thing.
And you're lucky that is that Allah subhanaw taala is the doer
of things
should I shouldn't fear for you, I should feel for the one who
believes that things have the power, Allah subhanaw taala
created the power in them to act accordingly.
And they might believe in such things this this is this is
dangerous then, but for for me and for anyone who believes that Allah
Subhanallah data is the doer of things. And you know that this is
the Sunnah of Allah subhanaw taala the unbelievers have doesn't
reject
such thing
in the end, you might find that Ambani or two rejecting something
in particular.
But this doesn't mean that they reject the Constitution. Now, and
I have many examples in my mind, but it will take a lot of time.
But at least this example is enough.
Which means in that case that there is something known as an if
we can, we can rename this to gdb
experiential
practice, is it a type of Bidda has another, is there such a
thing, because it sounds very much similar, we're gonna get the same
results. What Imam Muhammad did, for example, recite the ads or
write them in water, you know, right, dissolve the ink and water
or something like this. What else is that besides what we would call
better Hassan.
It's just that this is an issue of terminology can Yes, it's been a
hassle. Now, I agree. Do the HANA Villa have something called be
that Hassan do the HANA Villa that Hana Villa and we are talking
about a term in the embodiment term according to those people who
call themselves Hana. Now this this is a take up or fee Stila?
No, we do not have something like that linguistically. Yes, it's a
bit of a hassle. It's better and it has Yes, didn't have variables
a and b that is either disliked or Hello.
This
term beta is a term
which means that there has been a husband a yes linguistically. Yes,
we agree and
then what would they call such an action such as whatever Jamie had
said about going into the or the massages that are out of use or
Imam meds use of the verses for pregnancy? What would we what
would they call that?
They will give it a ruling it will say this is permissible or this is
Sunnah, sunnah, they will call it soon. They are not they are not
restricted. In that case, they do not call it sunnah. If it has been
done by the prophets, I send them only you know, they call it
sooner, even if it hasn't been done by the prophets on the
laurels. Now, and they have they have setup and they have.
Okay, good Jomo.
You've been quiet for some time been I've been hogging the
questions, but cheer up if you have anything you'd like to say.
How hamdulillah Hamdulillah? I think that last question that you
asked, Sheikh said he had some more examples in mind. I don't
know if he wanted to expound or shake. Would you like to expound
more on that question that Dr. Shadi asked you? This was this,
this was the strongest example Ahmed himself writing the A, and
it's and you know, you know, what, what makes it really strong that
they mentioned this example, in particular, in the books of faith.
And you open a book of fiction, you see this
other things
from Damien,
about
ending this is not material, but this is not even whatever that the
origin of added everything, but look at this knowledge. The dad
knows his
visitors.
He knows them. He knows how they are a knows about them.
This is not only the law, the composition of embellishments,
this is what you read
from it, and Tamia and YBNL came
along. They said the same things. And they said more than just not
remember everything that they said. He said even more than this.
This is not even
in direct way, this is weaker than that. And yet they do not mind
saying such things. So this area should. I have many, many more
examples. But the strongest was what the amygdala did now.
So Pamela, shake that that example that you gave about Mr. Ahmed and
his practice. We live in a turbulent time here. So that leads
into
my next question is what advice would you give to your students
here in America,
considering the current climate with those who claim to be
exposing her Nabila?
But yet, essentially, they're teaching something different.
And I would even add to that to my own question, because
As I, I have seen and heard people say, who claimed to be humbly, but
who would say that Imam Ahmed is not a Hajah.
And this really bothered me, because I have never heard anyone
say that Iman I have met was not 100 Neela and Asha to you, anybody
else has ever said that about Al Imam I've met they've been
humbled. So if you could touch on that for us to Zachman alojado.
So you say that humbly saying that democracy is not a hoax. Is that
what you said? This was a political
Yes.
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I sold my Muhammad in a dream. And he kept describing how he was
tortured by dustman. these difficult times that he went
through, and he showed me things that I haven't read in books. And
then I went to my shop
now, and I went to my shake, and I told him about this.
This this dream, I told him, he kept describing this to me, and
you were with me, my she
was with me in the clean money. And he and it was really, really
difficult. And it was, wasn't a pleasant experience. Yeah, now I
wish I didn't see any of that. I was pleased that I saw the man
himself. But it was who's really, really bad how he described as a
torch and everything. So I told him, what is the interpretation?
What do you think of that? And usually, my shape doesn't really
interpret any dreams. He said, he usually says, oh, yeah, this is
good. This is okay. It's Bucha go on, continue what you're doing
this is a good sign in this stream in particular, he said, Yes, this
is a sign that Lima magma that that there is a lot of internet
waiting for us.
And I guess if I this is one part of internet to hear about somebody
who considers it doesn't continue to happen humble.
Actually can can sometimes
have this liberty of not considering and humble because at
the end of the shift here is
not me talk in points.
First of all, 100 Benny not considering to be heard, it means
that he is not handling because as many scholars said in the humble
he must have NT other mother hip, the one
whom you follow Yanni lady to a Lidl, the one whom you follow in
Feb is a statements or evidence for you. Your evidence is not a
Quran sunnah because you have no access to an Quran was sunnah when
it comes to interpreting the Quran was from the or extracting rulings
from Quran assuming this is an agreed upon issue among the
scholars of full faith.
If not agreed upon, this is the
the Hannibal I hate to claim and Ishmael let's not call it agreed
upon issue but at least this is the most of the majority of all
fully scoped this is one thing that's why in the humbly 50 books
like The Hashi have narrowed Allah deleted toilet
medical me said Alan must have been having mme admin must be the
most praised must have the best level the measurable yes goes this
is said with this was set by a humbling
if Sephora is better than ACMA, you become a fairy. It's simple
and it doesn't include any hatred or anything. This is one this is
one thing another thing
I'm not sure if this was a part of your question you actually like in
combining Meza is the humbly must have which can be presented by the
HANA biller only the Hannibal, who started with the HANA Villa who
received the most help from the HANA villa. Let's help each other
in stopping there be the art of
teaching talking
falsely contributing to something without being qualified enough to
do so.
So if you want to talk about the hammers have then you started to
humbly mess with someone who is handling the idea of a standard
that he
shared he started with.
Let's stop these innovations of
Ambani tiny Hanbury, Nicodemus branch
to humbly cardiac realice branch.
This is a matter of one of the greatest aim
of Muslimeen. It's not
it's not restaurant or something like that. Yeah.
People in the United States in particular, they need to be
focused on more. I know that the circumstances and the environment
might not be really helpful. But in the end, if you are focused
more on me, especially that you have a lot of chances on the
internet now,
this will definitely be better than getting in such disputes of
why Ambani the brunt of so and so I'm very depressed. When I started
studying and I found the Salafi, I went to him, I wasn't set up. I
was never self. I went to him and they benefited.
I met my shake who's who was in Salafi, and they benefited from
him. If if, if not for the self issue of being really harsh, and
that they rejected me afterwards, and they called me there and stuff
like that, I wouldn't be able to mention the names.
In the end.
If you focus more on land, and forget about that, the trendy
things, this would definitely be better for especially especially
not for the students in the UK, with the students in the USA. Yes.
Although you start
and please, there's something that you did. You started with reading
something about me.
I want to thank Shifu so shifty and Naveen they helped writing
this.
I remember my safe in German as a serif in the best spot, which is
called Avila Earth, many if anyone visited the German as you will
know where this is, this is the middle of July as a sheriff, you
are in the center of the sheriff. Everyone who comes we'll just look
at the one who is sitting there while she was sitting there in the
middle of a very difficult dance. And a layman interrupted him
saying what are your qualifications? It lacks? Adam. It
lacks it lacks Adam in general and Adam, which like according to its
specific meaning in the books of knowledge.
As it stopped the desert started talking about his qualifications
and from whom he received them. Because the question was about the
most of us teach.
So this is a good soon. And this is the
criteria and the standard that the students should take into
consideration whenever whenever they receive anything from anyone.
The first thing that
I will talk about myself when I when I came to this interview,
they told me about fidelity shake said
the first thing that they told me about his study this study that he
went there.
This was done by some of my students, because they knew how I
measure things. And they knew how things should be measured. They
started with this.
They didn't start with he had the Soweto subscribers so follow us.
Yet this log he had this note and they didn't even know about these
things, and they still do not know about them.
Although a lot of people use an emoji. Thank you so much. Just
echo Lokeren I've asked all my questions I wanted to
I think actually we did cover everything and hamdulillah with
the same intention that we came in with the intention of
shedding more light on the history and the specifics of this noble
method that insha Allah to Allah will really can can see we can see
it in our lifetime in sha Allah revive and return back to the
sessions in which the Hanafi Maliki and Shafi schools are
taught all together without any hesitation and fear. Because now
we have understanding knowledge not only that, we have it to solve
it dissolved with our bourbon meth habit. That's what's the most
important thing and that's what I feel a lot of people felt were is
this humbly method. We see it in the books only and we don't see
the hubbub of the keepers of this chain and we don't even know where
the chain is. So this living tradition of the humbly school may
Allah subhanaw taala increase its presence in our own lives and
increase us with the Sahaba of the Arbab of this noble
madhhab those are my closing words
Joma would you do if you have any closing words and then we'll go to
shake for his closing comments.
I would just like to
thank Allah to Allah
for giving us this opportunity.
What with fidelity shake use have been Saudi and thank you, Dr.
Shadi again, and the whole Safina society,
our family for making this possible. And I pray that Allah to
Allah will facilitate us to be of those who bring unity and love
amongst the Muslims. I mean,
and Sheikh Yusuf, any closing comments,
but lofi, Neff Allah we couldn't I hope this was fruitful. I thank
you, Mona Anna, she shared the
chef doorman, Naveen Musa, but Luffy
does that Calaca Elia for the comb? Where is he to come and
firstly, ask ALLAH SubhanA wa Tada to continue his bounty upon our
chef Yusuf deen and dunya dunya and akhira seen and unseen
via Warburton and we ask Allah to Allah to bring us xe together
physically in Allah, Allah knows when but we do ask Allah and when
to move to notability Java that insha Allah someday we will meet
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