Sajid Ahmed Umar – Stories of Al Kahf #05 – When Giants Meet

			Assalamu alaykum warahmatullahi wabarakatuh the respected guests at home, I hope you're well in sha
Allah Allah. Welcome back to another episode of stories from alkaff Alhamdulillah. Phil In the
previous episode, episodes we've covered so much and we've derived great benefits of hamdulillah and
in today's episode inshallah, we will be talking about the two giants when they meet Moosa unseeded
inshallah Salam aleikum, wa rahmatullah wa barakato. Shed Sajid on how
		

			to live regarding a roof and well and how you handle the love of week along with the Callaghan. Oh,
praise belongs to Allah hamdulillah we had a cold morning this this morning goes as follows.
		

			It's winter. Yeah, I didn't fall off winter.
		

			You know,
		

			in these seasons and the changing of seasons.
		

			We understand from them. The existence of Allah subhanho wa Taala. And he's perfect system. And you
know, one of the things about winter from from from, from an Islamic perspective, yes, is that we
should consider it the spring of a believer, when it's winter time is actually the spring for for a
believer and why? Because the days are short and cold. And the nights are longer. Right? So with
shorter days, you can fast and when it's cold, you know, feel thirsty. And when the nights are
longer, you can get a good sleep and still make that 200 prayers.
		

			Amazing. Alright, so let's get straight into the story in sha Allah tala. So it's quite an
interesting story between Moses and Heather. What's the relevance of having the story in Surah
alkaff Zack Hello, Heron Bismillah Ar Rahman AR Rahim al hamdu Lillah wa Salatu was Salam ala
rasulillah who Allah Allah He was a busy woman who Allah, In the name of Allah subhanho wa Taala.
And all praises belongs to Allah and peace and salutations be upon the final messenger Muhammad
sallallahu alayhi wa sallam? This is a good question because we've been through the story of the
Seven Sleepers and we discussed its relevance to the surah the chapter as a whole, that we discussed
		

			the man with the two gardens, and its relevance to the surah chapter as a whole. And now we have the
story of Musa and however,
		

			we Allah subhanho wa Taala be pleased with them both. Allah subhana wa Taala mentions this story he
and I pondered over that what could we
		

			consider
		

			as a point to teach us the relevance of why this story exists? And the only plausible understanding
that I can think of and Allah knows best is that Allah mentions the story. Because of the delegation
of the Quraysh. That went to the juice. They traveled to seek knowledge, for the wrong reasons, for
the wrong reasons. And also because Musa alayhis salam is a profit from the profits of the Jews.
Right? is a profit from the profits of the Jews are less than the Jews, many prophets and he was the
main one Musa alayhis salam.
		

			So Mousavi, Islam is their prophet. And he taught them mighty lessons pertaining to knowledge and
seeking knowledge and sharing knowledge and preaching knowledge. And the Jews that were settled in
that area. They received
		

			the delegation from the parish and understood from them that they haven't really come to seek
knowledge. They've come for ulterior motives. They want knowledge to try and derail Prophethood and
the message of a prophet, and they have a history of prophets. And instead of utilizing their
knowledge in setting precedents here, and telling the courage that Listen, this is what we have in
our books, we've been taught about the coming of the final messenger, right? He has the science of
being the final messenger. And you guys need to change your paradigms and change your attitudes and
change your perceptions. Go ahead and support Him and follow Him. And we should be doing the same By
		

			the way, right? They didn't do that. They said go and test it. Go and test it. Go and ask him these
these these three questions. I could ask him about this Evan sleepers go and ask him about the just
kingpin coordinate, go and ask him about the soul. See what answers he has? We can't we will prove
he's not a profit. Right.
		

			So this is the relevance because the story of Buddha and Hitler is really a story about seeking
knowledge and the etiquettes of seeking knowledge and understanding
		

			that this knowledge can be a trial and tribulation and if you recall, we've been saying time and
time again that every story highlights for us a different trap. In the first story it was a trial
of, of power, authority, authority, leadership, you don't use it properly, leads to destruction.
		

			In wealth, you don't use it properly leads to your destruction, knowledge. You don't use it properly
lead to destruction even if it's Islamic knowledge. Even if it Islamic, Persian this is I won't say
it's a sight point. This is a main point sort of cursory points a main point here, right because
most I didn't go to become a doctor, right he went to learn from the knowledge of Allah.
		

			So this is Islamic knowledge, right, this is, this is noble knowledge, right, which is the term
Noble. So Moosa went on that journey. So we learn from this that this is the trial and tribulation
being dealt with here that if you want to save yourself from retrogression from destruction, seek
knowledge the right way, and don't abuse kondalilla so let's get straight into that story then, so
it starts off with masa and he's with someone, could you describe the person he's with? So Allah
tells us in the Quran
		

			that Musa undertook a journey? allihies Allah, may Allah be pleased with him with
		

			a hardy may help a slave boy, and that person was you shall be noon, another giant to have three
giants, right? Because you ended up becoming a giant as well.
		

			A giant and we call them giants because they are right because we are people trying to balance upon
their shoulders. Yes.
		

			It's amazing. And in that is a lesson Subhan Allah. And Moosa goes on this journey to find Hitler.
But I think what we should discuss here is why why do you take on this journey? And there are some
narrations that teachers why there's reports that go back to the Prophet sallallahu alayhi wasallam
Oh, go back to our best Allah one. And he states that he learned from the Prophet sallallahu alayhi
wa sallam that what happened was, Musa gave a speech. Once it was a mighty speech, move the people
move them
		

			until a point where by the people said that you know what you Is there anyone on earth more
knowledgeable than you?
		

			You see, is the trail of knowledge. Is there anyone on earth more knowledgeable than you? And Musa
said, No, I'm the most knowledgeable moose. I didn't do it in an arrogant way. Moose, I said it in
the sense that I'm a prophet of Allah. Right? Allah has chosen me, Allah is teaching me. So if Allah
is teaching me, then who can be more knowledgeable than me? Unless someone else was teaching? Of
course, but he didn't know that. Yes. Right. And that's why this, you know, it, if you if you follow
the story, it's, there's a, there's a, there's a segment which is titled as a legend, do they do
right? or, or, which is divine knowledge, which is knowledge of Allah that Allah teaches someone
		

			from his creation? Right? So was Allah giving this type of knowledge to someone else? This wasn't
known to say that I'm the Prophet of Allah, Allah has chosen me. So I'm the most knowledgeable, he
didn't eat out of arrogance. But Allah subhanho wa Taala, in his divine wisdom caused the situation
to happen and Musa Duke on this journey, for this to be a history lesson until the end of time. And
notice a lesson, but a historical point or story, a history lesson, right? That from the outset, we
understand that no matter how much you know, we still don't know everything. And in fact, no matter
the more you learn, the more you should understand how much you don't know. Right?
		

			So Moosa, Allah subhanho wa Taala said no, we have someone more knowledgeable than samosa said,
Okay, I want to meet this person. And we will learn from this innovation point, at a person who
wants to really learn, you can commit to people of knowledge. And you got to have you want to have
the desire to, to strive to strive to, and you won't have the love to do it, use it then say okay,
does that mean, you didn't tend to apply and say, Thank You, Lord for teaching me a new lesson. Of
course, he was grateful that he learned a new lesson that there is someone else who knows but
immediately said, I want to meet him. So Allah advised him, right, Allah advised him Allah said,
		

			advise them.
		

			Moosa took a live fish with him. In some sources, it says the fish became alive because there was a
special rock that had water in it that if you drink from it, then you you know, you gain life. So
the fish became alive and swam out came out of his backpack, and he lost the fish but the point was,
he put a fish into his backpack, and he traveled and Allah subhana wa Taala told him that the point
where you lose the fish, that is where you'll find the man. So moose I went on this journey with
this helper with USIA and they rested at a rock at that rock. And when they rested, the fish swam
out through a channel into the waters. So they lost the fish or USIA saw that knew that Moosa was
		

			asleep. And when they woke up and continue the journey, he forgot to tell me what happened. So they
continued on the journey.
		

			And then also obviously now you're hungry. So he told these young helper, he said, You know,
		

			it Nevada and I bring up our meal let's have our meal because I'm really I've I'm tired, right? But
then you said Tim that Oh no, I forgot to tell you it's gone off yeah that you know that our
breakfast or our meal has actually left us we lost it at the place where we rested. So mousse I said
Tim, this was what Allah subhanho wa Taala was telling us we have to go back to that place because
we
		

			will be sat where we lose that fish fish Okay, so for today Allah SRT Hema kasasa meaning Allah
tells us that they
		

			follow the trail back, looked at where they walked and follow the trail back to that point, and it
was over there we move on found a pious servant of Allah. Allah says he was a pious man Allah
described him as a pious servant of Allah subhanho wa Taala and and Moshe Musa obviously introduced
himself to Heather and he asked her to, if he could,
		

			you know, be a mulas if you could be a companion to him, so that he can learn from he can lead the
beneficial knowledge is and there's many lessons just in this there's many lessons just in this if
you permit me or perhaps we should go for a break. And then after the break we can we can we can
dive into these lessons just from this story as to why Moosa undertook this journey inshallah So,
you know, we've discussed a few of the, you know, the benefits that we can derive from, you know,
striving to gain knowledge to travel in order to gain knowledge, and also to, you know, understand
that when you do attain that knowledge that you really don't know, as much as you may have thought
		

			you didn't actually, you know, he will delve into all of these issues insha Allah after the break,
does akmola Okay, run for listening for the first part of the show, and we hope to see you after the
break.
		

			barakallahu
		

			assalamu aleikum wa rahmatullah wabarakatuhu Welcome back dear respected guests to the second part
of the show, when giants meet Salaam Alaikum. Once again, the last day of so we were discussing the
relevance of traveling for knowledge as more sir and usually Salaam were actually made, they were
made a way to say that by following the fish, so can you just discuss the relevance of traveling for
knowledge or seeking knowledge in a correct manner? insha Allah? Does that allow here? Yes, so
definitely this this reason that we we learn as to why moose Allah Islam undertook, this journey
teaches us a series of etiquettes
		

			when it comes to seeking knowledge, and as it's called seeking advantages, but advocates when it
comes to seeking knowledge. And even when we go into the details of the story, as it is in the
Quran, we find a lot of etiquettes, you know, in terms of how to be with the teacher, and how the
teacher should be with the student, and so on and so forth. And perhaps we'll, we'll get to that.
But definitely, from what we've shared thus far, we learned that, you know, knowledge has to be
sought, and sometimes you're not going to get it close by, right, you got to travel to it.
		

			And we also learn from this, that knowledge should be taught from reputable sources, yes, reputable
teachers, right, because sometimes you can get knowledge close by, but it's a reputable knowledge
and as our pious predecessors have taught us, and they would say, and in effect, teach us that,
		

			you know, the knowledge of this religion is exactly that, the knowledge of this religion. So we need
to look at, who we get this knowledge from, or look at the source. And Moosa here, had to go to head
get to travel to so we learn from this that, you know, knowledge may entail that you have to leave
your comfort, you have to leave your surroundings, you have to leave your family, you have to leave
your comforts as as we've said, you know, what you're used to traveling, no doubt that it has
difficulty to it. But if we look at mighty knowledge that exists today, over centuries and centuries
and centuries, we've seen that you know, the people who sought that knowledge, they exerted
		

			themselves, they take him on well Buhari for example, in previous episodes, we discussed the moment
		

			we said that he's got an authentic book we said and the ratio this this book is narrated by Bukhari,
right? Or this heady thriver is narrated by bokhara in his book, in every book, it will travel
sometimes 30 days, 40 days to get on it. Just one we're talking we're not talking about you know, a
condition vehicle on roads we're talking about travel on a camel
		

			you know, through the hot desert through sand through dust, to find one Hadith, no communication,
and then he would end up reaching a place after
		

			That time
		

			to meet the person who he who he was told has a narration from the Prophet sallallahu alayhi
wasallam to find out that the person passed away yesterday or the day before or a few days before,
imagine that. Imagine that because you don't know. You can only know when you get there versus all
you one day late. You two days late you three days late. What would we do? We'd start complaining,
given our
		

			lack of patience today, we'd be like La hawla wala quwata illa Billah. This is This is unfair, this
is not right. And we say Hamas, I'm taking my camera back to where I came from, I'm not going
anywhere, forget about this, it's I'm wasting my time, my body would get on and start the next
endeavor. Look, Allah blessed him that his book exists with us today. And all of us read it and
benefit from it. And he is in his grave earning rewards from this work of his once upon Allah. So
this is one of the lessons Shall I shall so you know, looking at the ayat of Surah Al calf, I think
the story is contained within ir 60 and 84. Between the and I mean, when the first encounter with
		

			Mossad and Heather is, you know, written down a suggests that I'm also came in a soft way and asked
you know, is okay if I follow you, and gain righteous knowledge from you, and it's something that
you touched on before as well. It's just, you know, I want to you know, find out how does one
approach those with knowledge and in a correct manner. Definitely. And as we said, this is a story
of etiquette, how to get knowledge properly, so it doesn't become knowledge that is a trial.
		

			And just even for the viewers watching, we would say that focus on the etiquettes focus on the
tickets focus on the ethical things about advocates. And since we're talking about advocates, why
don't we just, you know, go back a little bit that Moosa took with him. Somebody a companion, yes.
So, you know, having a companion helps on age, especially on a journey seeking knowledge, because
traveling by yourself might make it unbearable, but if you go with somebody, it lessens the
difficulty. And it might allow you to continue on the journey. Right? You You know, you might be a
person who might give up but if you take somebody you'll continue, so take the means, go with
		

			somebody, go prepared, you know, go with whatever you can to prepare yourself. Moosa took his fish,
they took, you know, their, their backpacks, they took provisions, right, you got to go on your
journey, because you got to be practical as well. You got to eat, you got to rest and so on and so
forth. Right? Doesn't mean you got to rest at a particular level. Always. Sometimes this is what
this is the level you can operate at. But obviously, the objective is seeking knowledge, right? So,
you know, I might not be able to sleep in this type of accommodation, but I can sleep in this type
of accommodation, I might not be able to eat that type of food, which I prefer, but this type of
		

			food, but it's okay. It's okay. You know, I'll drop my requirements a little bit because it's worth
it. So getting this knowledge is worth it. The other thing we learned, which is amazing is you know
how Allah tells us that Moosa refers to the user as fat it doesn't refer to like slave boy as a
slave boy refers to without more honorable name. And this teaches us how to put knowledge into
practice. Because obviously Moosa was a prophet professor, he had he had, he had character, manners,
so we got to learn from him, this is a knowledgeable person going to seek knowledge, which is also
an important point. So he is putting his knowledge into practice in terms of how he
		

			addresses his point, and his tone of a dress. And how he asks right I mean, when he said it, no, no,
he didn't say give us our food.
		

			He explained he goes, fatigue and tiredness has affected me and has affected us he didn't say me is
affected us. It teaches us that when you when somebody Don't think about yourself, yes, you might
not be hungry, but you might feel he's hungry. But you don't have to sit and say you know what, you
hungry Let's sit down and eat because that person might feel a burden here. Yeah, you're trying to
get on you're on the journey find with with this killer is where fever is, and now I'm hungry. You
stopping for me? No, he didn't say that. It couldn't be that he wasn't hungry. But the boy was
hungry. So he said, you know, bring our lunch, cause we're feeling fatigued, because we're both
		

			feeling fatigue. I mean, look at the address is absolutely amazing. These are tickets. So tickets,
amazing tickets. And even when
		

			they came to find out that the fish was Ross mousse, I didn't say La hawla wala quwata illa Billah.
But what's wrong with you? I don't know what's wrong with you. You didn't tell us now we walked all
this way you begging me? Which time had you told me there we could have looked forward to today. And
now we hungry and now we got to do extra work in extra walking and we don't have our provisions with
us. Let hold our quality level that this is this.
		

			You know, and the Prophet sallallahu alayhi wa sallam told us that if only if only if only if only
if only I did this if only that happened don't open the door to shape line. Right? If we see other
lies, Mr. muzej This is what Allah world but we don't say federal law where we have deliberately.
Allah wrote about our destruction. It was no this was a just a missile.
		

			He says he forgot. He didn't say I knew and I purposely didn't tell you. No, that's a different
situation. See, I forgot. But also what's interesting is when he told Moosa I forgot, he didn't say
Allah made me forget, he said, mama, mama and Sonny English upon look.
		

			I nothing made me forget except she
		

			explained himself. So you know, he didn't he didn't blame Allah for the situation that Yeah, because
we know that at the end of the day, you know, whatever Allah does, he does good. And whatever Allah
wills happens, right, but on a human level, forgetfulness is something we don't consider to be
praiseworthy. Right? And so he didn't attribute it to Allah, he attributed to Shabbat. And we also
learned from this that it is SharePoint, that makes us forget its sins that make us forget. It's the
work of SharePoint that makes us forget. And you know, when you seek knowledge,
		

			the knowledge disappears. Sometimes people say you know, I can't remember
		

			what should I do we say leave since an increase your is the far right is because SharePoint makes
you forget. So the more effects of SharePoint you have on your slate, the easier the knowledge will
leave you and the harder it will be for you to get that knowledge. And there's a famous mentioned
related to mammas sheffey
		

			Rahim Allah may Allah have mercy upon him, which is a Shaco to Isla wiki in su a heavily for our
shed any electoral kill mousy walk Bharani vnla. Manu, Allah he was, he says, I remember Shafi was
amazing. I mean, when he would memorize a book, he would have to cover a page. I don't know why. So
you wouldn't get them. So he doesn't memorize it by mistake.
		

			He blocks it out not to memorize it by mistake. And he says, I complain to my teacher wikia about my
poor ability to remember things. So, he told me that I should leave since leave since and he said to
me,
		

			You have to leave since because this knowledge that you seeking is a light from the light light is a
light from Allah.
		

			And the lighter format does not come to us. And
		

			you see, so just by usual saying warm and sunny, warm and sunny will show up on and of course, that
nothing made me forget, exception upon this is a lesson that to not be shaped as friend. If you want
to seek knowledge cannot happen you cannot be hairpins friend be full of sins, servicing the
whispers of shame upon and then seeking knowledge at the same time. It's not gonna happen. So this
is what we learned from the CIA you know, immediately.
		

			So, you know, that's what we that's what we learn. And then we will you know, we will discuss how
good Moosa was with Russia that joke, you know, he, but the point to mention here is that you know,
how we should whenever we teach and speak to each other, especially when you are a team, explain
things, Moosa explained. Give us our meal, because we've been because we are affected by fatigue,
because we tie it he explained himself was just give give, give us our meal. You know, it wasn't
just usual saying, well, I forgot to tell you know, he explained himself perhaps this is the reason
this is what happened, right. And we also learned very quickly
		

			that you know, the importance of having enemy two people are together or three people together one
has to be the leader for the sake of being a boss and just prayed know for the sake of
		

			being conducive, right? And sake for the sake of progress, not wasting time. Because two minds will
always think differently. Yeah, one mind that makes the ultimate decision and Allah knows best. So
panela Zack malarkey and I shift, we're just wrapping up all of the different benefits that we can
get from just the small beginning part of the story of the two giants with more science and so
panela being patient, having the right etiquettes when seeking knowledge and also being wise in the
way that you approach different situations when discussing things especially with masa with the with
the young boy Lucia. So Han Allah is LACMA La Jolla on guests at home for watching and listening
		

			with us today. And insha Allah We hope to see you next time when we discuss the story of the two
giants in further detail in sha Allah tala Joseph. Hola. Hey, Russia.