Saad Tasleem – I Called Majed Mahmoud!

			Sit on a coma had to live with a cat though chef, magic gift Haddock? logical Santa Monica, Santa
and ingredient by yourself. Good Good. 200 nuts. So should we be completely honest with people
listening to eat chewy? Tell them what happened before this? Do you expect me to say no after you
asked?
		

			No, obviously, like, we're gonna be honest. Like, I'm not saying we'd be dishonest. But should we
disclose all of the information? What do you think? Yeah.
		

			So we talked a couple days ago, and we recorded it had the lab, but we had some technical issues. So
the recording got messed up. And so this is our second call.
		

			But the technical issues was because how long the call was? Remember that? Yes, yes. So because of
the length of the recording
		

			because of the length recording, we had some technical issues. So we're gonna try and keep the
conversation down this time. And, you know, we talked about this last time, but you know, it's not
odd for us to talk for a long time normally are like when I call you
		

			or you call me like our conversations like an hour? Is this normal for us? Because we are friends at
least I consider us to be to be friends with me. Same here.
		

			I accidentally hit the tripod. So in case you don't know it's good, my supposed to be just, you
know, normal. No, no frills, nothing, no fancy editing. Like,
		

			I wanted to tell anyone who's listening.
		

			How about you or so or how I feel about you. And you know, I'm not trying to get too emotional here.
But
		

			I met you for the first time in one of my seminars, I believe he attended in Michigan, right. But
obviously, I hadn't known about you before that, you know, your online lectures and your videos and
stuff. I was actually kind of surprised that you were there. Just as a student, I was though I
actually always get caught off guard when somebody attends a seminar.
		

			It's it's a little weird, you know, when like a colleague or a peer or someone just shows up at the
seminar. But you know, I just I've learned to just block it out and just, I don't want to change my,
you know, the way I speak. I don't want something to affect it, you know, so I just kind of block it
out, and I speak the way I would normally speak. So that's what happened, but I still had never met
you. But that's where I met you for the first time. And then I think we got to spend more time
together. Over the years as you know, we've been at conferences together.
		

			And then you know, obviously you started teaching for automotive and then we spent more time
together but from the very beginning I had this feeling about you.
		

			And so we talked about this in the film chillin Actually, we mentioned the Hadith, Eduardo jenolan
regenda, right, that souls are conscripted like so they're like soldiers meaning they can recognize
one another so when you're comfortable with somebody like the soul in
		

			the room, it's almost recognizes the other soul so that's why some people you just automatically you
feel comfortable with them. And then the opposite is true as well. Sometimes you meet someone you're
like, something about you, but you're one of those people that I just I don't know something about
you just said you know, spoke to me that you know, this cool guy number one show guy Mashallah. And
I was like, you know, I can see us being friends and 100 now that's what happened. Zack can look at
similar situation. My end is exactly what you said. And even more from my side. No love less. You
mean what? Yeah. So basically, it's supposed to be like a catch up phone call, you know, after the
		

			Coronavirus and everything going on I you'd like to ask what's going on? So how are things with you?
How's life been? How's home life been showing how
		

			things are going great. The in summary better than I expected it. That's 100. So it's a good thing.
I think that's the case for many people actually have done a lot of work wise, I'm now working from
home. So this is my afternoon area.
		

			School handle with my kids during the school periods or they're studying from home is almost
impossible and being difficult with, you know, several children doing their homeschooling but 100
let alone made it possible. And actually like it, which is cool, because you know, the home
schooling Yeah, it says more effort, no doubt, and you get to appreciate the teachers a lot more.
Yeah. But I think you get to have that feeling. Some students or some children feel like a one on
one has a bigger impact. And then others need the class environment. So I think people have the
balance is different from child to child. So I appreciated the experience very much. Did you did you
		

			imagine yourself as someone who would be into homeschooling. Like I look at myself, like definitely
not a homeschooling person. Like I don't think I can do it. I did interact
		

			The idea slightly, but never ever took a step towards it. Never like no, I didn't really say like,
you know what, let's try next year No, no, zero. Yeah, but now I'm like, you know what, a teacher
helped me a little bit online on zoom and I some of the work here my wife so it's pretty cool. You
know, and somehow, you know you're talking about how kids learn differently. It's one of the
problems with the schooling system, right is that everyone's lumped into one classroom, a one to one
teaching style, you know, and it doesn't account for, you know, different, you know, learning styles
and even 100. Now, like we've we've been, you know, we've begun to understand learning disorders
		

			even. But, you know, even like, 1020 years ago, someone had a learning disorder, they were just
considered a bad student, you know.
		

			And the reality is, not everyone doesn't learn the same way. And actually, if you look at the life
and Parsis, and them, even the way he spoke to people, the way he gets out, he taught people in
different ways based off of their personality. So well, I have my mail, I bless you. And I know,
it's not easy to homeschool, and it takes a lot of effort like that. I don't think I have it in me.
But the fact that you're, you know, you're able to do it, that's, that's awesome.
		

			You know, I think the whole notion, you know, when your back is against the wall, you get to be
creative initially, you know, do the initiative and put the effort. And I think that's, you know,
what some of us really need. Yeah, you know, it's kind of that reminds me when I went late, my first
son, before he was born, my mom wife was pregnant. We ordered a stroller, right. And I didn't know
anything about strollers, I don't know anything about car seats, and all that kind of stuff or
whatever. And it came in the mail. And it's one of those strollers you got to put together yourself
and had like 100 different pieces. And I'm like putting it together. And I'm trying to figure it
		

			out. I just can't you know, it's not, for some reason, I couldn't figure it out. And my mother in
law was standing there. And I just, you know, I just said out loud. I said, Annie, I can't even put
a stroller together, how am I gonna raise a child?
		

			And she said to me, she said, she said beta, you know, son, she said, You know, when basically it's
a it's a statement in order to I don't know if I should say the order a bit. But maybe, maybe some
people listening, especially said, beta jobs are paper to the Sarika letter, which means that, you
know, when it falls on your head, everyone does it. And when you're basically anyone, when you're
when you're pushed to do it, then you figure it out, you find a way like you become a parent and in
and handle, I think that's an aspect of, you know, to what could as well, that's a good one.
		

			Yeah, that has saved me so many worries, you know, as I'm sure you can relate, like, as a parent, I
would constantly worried about our kids, and what's gonna happen, and you know, how are we going to
raise them, right, and so on, and so forth. But at some point, you really have to, you know, you say
I try my best and then, you know, rely upon the law. And I think even now, I'm sure you're finding
this to be the case with educating our kids. So the other thing I wanted to ask you, you mentioned,
you mentioned your space here, looks like a very office, like space to me, is that this is where you
usually do your work and you hang out and stuff not hanging out. But like you prepare your lectures.
		

			And, you know, cuz everybody thinks like, you know, like, how, like, Where did I don't know, other
people think about this, I always think like, like shift lead, for example, right? Like, where does
he sit like at a coffee table? Or you have a debt? Like, when he's, you know, typing up in lectures,
where does it happen? So is this your space? Yes. So this, this is, as mentioned, the afternoon
space. So this is the spot from my desk, usually when the kids are awake, and they leave the second
floor. So this is where they sleep. So in the afternoon, I'm here, but in the morning, after
fetchit, I actually go to the basement. So when I'm in the basement, I'm working until I as I
		

			mentioned before, until I hear the footsteps, right. So
		

			that means it's time for me to leave the basement, and then go to the second floor. So this is in
the basement. And when it comes in, I have done I have a similar I have a similar setup as well,
like, this is the room where I do all my recordings, and like my, you know, zoom talks or whatever,
but it's not always available to me. So my younger son, Sophia, and his, his, his bed is actually
here. You know, because it's just a space issue. But so if he's got a nap, I gotta be out. And that
also means like, 9pm You know, we're using sleep tonight. I can't do anything after 9pm or I got to
pick a different room and dinner.
		

			So chef, Majid, you know, with being home, and spending time with family, I know that's one of the
things that we've,
		

			you know, it's an adjustment we've had to make just a difference in lifestyle. I know. For you, I'm
sure myself and people, you know, our colleagues and peers that are used to traveling and so on and
so forth and lecturing, you know, outside of their home. It's an adjustment to be home, right? It's
like it's a different, a little bit of a different lifestyle. So you teach a class a seminar called
the art of mentoring.
		

			Right. Yes, yes. So, you know, I've been thinking about how, you know, when it comes to manners and
one's character. And for some people, it's, it's, it's easy to, to have good character outside of
the house, right, because it's a limited amount of time you see people for a certain amount of time.
And so like, you know, when you're dealing with somebody for 510 minutes, it's easier to be patient
and to overlook things and to, you know, just have good character be kinder the way we speak. But
when you're at home, and somebody that Holmes had a lot, you know, some people at home, they're
like, a totally different person. But that's like, the reality of who they are. So, have you thought
		

			about this? Again? How do you feel about this, you know, as someone who does, you know, speak about
manners and this issue, like being in the home. So without a doubt, you know, as the prophet SAW
said, he gave us the general powerful statement that the best one amongst us is the one who's best
to their wives, right, the best to your spouse. And there's a reason of that, and I guess one of
them is that you're going to be very, very natural with them. Yeah. And nobody knows you like, like
your wife, right? And your kids, they know you better than anybody else. You could be you could be
that the nicest guy outside, whatever, like, you know, so respect you and your family. They know
		

			that reality alone, may Allah protect us. I mean, I mean,
		

			there's several things I can think about, like, few pointers, one of them as once again, we shared
some of this is one of my colleagues that work, you know, that one, in one of my engineering jobs
has
		

			said spouse, she's a cop, a police officer, right? And I told him does that does that mean your
spouse is not really busy enough, because you know, people are not in the roads, people are locked
out home, you know, it's not like there's May Allah protect us bars and nightclubs, and all closed,
so maybe it's too slow. And he actually told me and this was right at the early period of the
pandemic, and he said, No, actually, the cases are, she's very busy, like, based on what basis he
said because of domestic violence. Wow. And that shook me very much and you get to realize, you
know, being face to face with the spouse being face to face with the family members, eventually, you
		

			know, some people are not all like the, the very ugly side gets to get bigger and besides these two,
you know, better than me for sure Long Island is that the shame on banks on these situations, right,
everything taken out of context, everything make it bigger than what it is. So yes, of course in
your manners play a big role. And if I were to suggest a few things before now, I mean, my next
question, top top three suggestions are cut off any any any suggestions? Any suggestions?
		

			for spouses during the COVID era?
		

			That's good. That's good. I love it.
		

			So destined number one
		

			don't go full fledged communication with your spouse with your children when you first wake up until
you say I've thought about the morning remembrance. I have no protection from the shape on
protection from Allah subhanho wa Taala it's so on protection against the shape on protection from
loss
		

			the second winning with a lot protection with Yeah, yeah, the second thing you know, let's do cup
Next one.
		

			No, no, no, no reviews, no reading.
		

			The second thing is, you know, the Prophet sallallahu alayhi wa sallam his wife was asked what was
the first thing the prophet SAW Allah He said um, did when he entered the house
		

			and she said Can I have that be see what the first thing he should do was brush his teeth. So that
Here comes my second tip is that while we're at home, look fresh. look sharp. Try every t shirt you
had hidden for years. No, everyday wear one of these shirts, jeans.
		

			trousers for our UK audience Oh yeah. Don't say pants. Yeah.
		

			So that's my second but to be fair, different pants as well. Anyway, nevermind. I'll continue
continue. Yeah, like that. You know where I one time where my beautiful dress from st start to
stream it was a while I had a word that
		

			is like a lot. Mmm, let's see for that. So that's the number one is the asker number two is looking
fresh. And number three share
		

			is you know when you watch YouTube, there's something called Big skipped add. Yeah. All right. Well,
well, I actually I paid for my YouTube because I'm not dealing with ads being here but seeing here.
Yeah, yeah, it's
		

			free. Yeah, for sure.
		

			premiums are red. Yeah. So sometimes when the spouse says things go wrong or the word unnecessary is
said, sometimes you said press skip like hos move on. You don't have to comment on the on the word,
just get the you got to skip, skip. Now, I mean, depending on this, these are three things that come
to mind. Exactly. That's, that's awesome man even asked me that question in that way, I would assume
this is any No, that's if that's without preparation. That's, that's amazing, because I can look at
that golden golden advice I can look at, you know, he talked about, you know, pressing skip or
whatever. Just the fact that, you know, as I said before, we're just spending more time with this
		

			individual maybe before and he would work and kids and this and that, whatever. And maybe after the
actual time you spend with your spouse, maybe an hour, two hours a whole day, depending on what type
of work you do. But now it's like, the whole day you're at home. So obviously, you're going to be
exposed to a lot more of the other individual. And none of us are perfect. We all have shortcomings,
we all have weaknesses, we all have our little things that we do. And all human being I think all
human beings have things that they find annoying about other human beings, like there's no human
being who'd be like, everything about this person is amazing, right? Unless there's some rose rosy
		

			glasses, or it's the first three months of marriage or whatever. I mean, you spend enough time with
somebody you get to find things to be annoying. This is life right now, though, as you spend more
time. Exactly. Completely out, press fast forward or skip, skip, like a lot hit.
		

			Yeah, yeah, sure. Being with a spouse or children, and something to note of, is that quality time,
so we might be with our family, but we're not really with them. So I think this is the important
differentiation of, you know, putting our phones away gadgets, everything like that. And having that
one hour can be more fruitful than spending six hours but just like unorganized, right, just sitting
there. So just know that as of right now, as you mentioned this. Yeah, that's true. Because
sometimes, like I know, some parents will be working from home, and the kids are around. So there's
like this feeling, oh, I'm spending time with the kids. But in reality, that's not
		

			my younger son. So fan, he's a, he's like he's second born, you know, so I can relate to him. I see
a lot of, you know, me and him. But he has a strong personality. So one of the things that he does
is like, if if I'm on my phone, right, while he's in the room or whatever, he will literally like
climb up on me and put his face between the phone. And like, my face isn't like what's up and and
like, That's such a like, I'm like, Oh my god, this is terrible. You know, like, what am I doing? I
have to put the phone away. I'm like, this kid needs my attention. You know? So kids, I think like
their fifth man, they can feel it. Like, even though you're physically there, the fact that you're,
		

			you know, distracted, you're on your phone. They're like, Hey, where are you at? Right? Yes. And I
think that's a big challenge now being quarantined at home. Because, you know, let's face it, we
have so much time to tell you just jump online.
		

			But yeah, that definitely does. I feel lucky. So chef magic.
		

			I want to ask you about the term shift. So first off, how do you feel about the term shift? Or let
me let me let me rephrase that. How do you? What does the term shift mean to you? When you call
somebody shift? What what any, why do you use that term? Right call? Or mentioned shear? There's
different, different contexts. So for example, in the Arab, you know, coming out from our
background, we say, Sheriff as a man, like come on, man. Yeah. Last year, right. It's exactly almost
exactly the same kind of thing. So we can say that sometimes to our friends and so on who are not,
she'll, but mainly when we say chef means a religious figure. So chef, so on. So that's a religious
		

			figure.
		

			So somebody with knowledge, somebody you respect? Yes, I should board knowledge in that respect,
with respect to say differently, but she usually is knowledge, knowledge, or somebody
		

			or somebody like 2018.
		

			And but you view them to be knowledgeable. You still, I probably I probably would call them shift
out of respect. And if they were up there knowledge wise, no, the question is what's up there?
Right. So yeah, I mean, that Yeah, so that's the thing. Yeah. So I think that the norms that I that
the Yeah, what was being called shift and accordingly, it's like, it's like a, it's like a salary
shift, right? Like, how much as an engineer, how much should I be asking from so I look at other
engineers. Okay. So who's now been on the shift so on so on. So, in general, he might, he might
agree with me slightly on this is that the
		

			level of education now to be called this the ICF is lower than what it was 10 years ago. No doubt,
no doubt. So that's
		

			the reason why I'm asking you this. And you know,
		

			and, by the way, for those people were, you know, watching this or whatever, I do this all the time,
I'll, you know, ask your advice on a matter that somebody tell me that I'm dealing with raise daddy
for us.
		

			But so one of the things that I deal with is I kind of, I see, to me a little, like, both sides of
this argument. So I have some people who, well, let me let me set the back, let me set the you know,
the give me some context, in the eliminative culture, right, the
		

			institute culture,
		

			I think all the instructors, most instructors, they're automatically called shift. And,
specifically, I know if and I know, I know, back in the day, this was definitely the case, that
someone who is has a quality has qualification, right now, like the stomach degree, shitty or
whatever, then you know, their culture, you know, that's just the culture, so on posters, and you
know, advertising this and that, whatever. So when you're teaching a seminar, normally, not always,
not everyone abides by this, but normally the culture is to call you shift. Right? And so I actually
never like called myself shift. And I graduated, Medina started teaching for the most of this, I
		

			never was like, Okay, now I'm sure, you know, I never ever did that. But as a motive started, you
know, advertising, whatever they push it. And so I'm like, okay, whatever. So I, I've faced that
people who are like, Wait, you're a share, like, how are you? Right? Like, what makes you a shift?
And there's a story that, you know, because
		

			yeah, so that's the other. That's the thing, right? So they look at the way I dress. Maybe the way I
talk? I don't know, right? But it's like, for some people, I do not fit the visual of what a chef
is, what a chef in their mind is. Right? And so I sometimes get back that's like, oh, how are you
wish it or, you know, whatever. So, like, in your like, how do you deal with this issue of like,
finding that balance? Of You know, you don't, you know, there's Yeah, there's a, there's a culture
of that. And I think, as a teacher, as an instructor, you do kind of expect
		

			a certain amount of manners, right? or certain etiquette, right, that the students should follow.
I'm not saying saying CIF is part of the etiquette.
		

			But just even, like, when we speak to each other, you know, just with respect, and like, you know,
for example, if a student asks a question, they said, Hey, homie, I got a question for you,
whatever, you know, written or somebody walks up to you in the break, they put their arm around you,
right? Like, Hey, man, so I had a question for you, like, you know, what I mean? So obviously, you
want a certain level of any certain etiquette, right? But at the same time, you don't want to be
praised. So how do you how do you? How do you deal with this? From my end? I usually, not always,
but for the most part, and in many organizations, they know that because I've done it several times
		

			when I tell them to change. requests, change a poster, if they did put like titles. For me, I would
say no, and just just a magic moment. Sometimes a stand, you don't need to
		

			go the extra step to kind of avoid having that title. So is it hard for you better than then share?
Like, I know, some people they will say, Don't call me shit, you can call me to starve? No. So what
what is the What's it? Neither? No, you're like, if you have to pick I'd rather take a stab
overshare if I have to pick out his brother. I like Brother, brother. So you want the poster to say
brother magic that
		

			we're gonna put we're gonna put something right. No. So it's no that usually actually, when I send
it back, usually they take it off. I said, I prefer no title. Just imagine. But there was one time
someone said we, we need to like when we call you and things like that. So I said, If you insist
this book, Robin, I mean, that's what he's got with brother. Yeah. Yeah, but I'm not like that, you
know, like black and white, but I just my preference is I think it's a such a heavy title.
		

			Sounds like Heavyweight Championship, right? It's a heavy title. And I don't think I'm there
honestly. I don't like too much responsibility. Too much expectation, too much knowledge, you know,
it feels like you need to ask so I kind of just like, kind of avoid it, avoid it a little bit. But
isn't the term shaft relative? Like it? It means different things to different people. Right. So,
you know, to, to, like I understand, like I was saying before, when somebody looks at me and date, I
don't fit their visual of what a shift looks like. I understand that. I'm like in your, you know, in
your worldview, like I don't meet those requirements.
		

			I have no problem with that cuz I'm like, that's how you view the term jet for for someone else for
like a teenager, you know, who, you know, attends my classes, they're a student of mine or whatever,
to in their mind like, I'm their teacher, I'm someone you know. So they're like, okay, you're for
me, you're a Shan Shan doesn't have to be some, like, I know, some, like big renowned, like studied,
you know, for 50 years or whatever. So, like, isn't it relative to the person who's using the term?
Yeah, definitely. It's relative, as I mentioned, like, you know, like, even shift and many, for
example, out of countries when they say chef means the old man.
		

			Right? And then yeah, and I actually one time, visited a village, it was in some somewhere in the
Middle East. And they said, look at the chef. And I'm like, on one basis, like, actually came by
like, they don't know anything about my education. Absolutely nothing. So I said, what basis Did you
like, just out of curiosity? Is it because you have a beard? how's it gonna say that? Yeah.
		

			Yeah, it was a beard. The shift philosophy, religious finger, like, look how the category ends? As
Yeah, it is. Definitely.
		

			Yeah, because I've seen people, like I've said, and just a disclaimer, I'm not talking about you
here. Okay. But I just seen certain people that they'll say, Don't call me shit, right? Like, I'm
not a scholar, this is not whatever. But when they speak, they speak as a chef would speak. What I
mean by that is, they have no problem giving effect to a, they have no problem speaking on matters
that scholars should speak about. And to me, that's a little bit disingenuous, because I'm like, the
chef is just a title in the end of the day. It's what like, what how you are representing yours.
It's, it's how you act is what really matters, right? And one of my, one of my teachers in Medina,
		

			he would he would, he said to us,
		

			he said, Good, I had an FC. Right, like, everyone knows themselves, like, because we used to say,
like, you know, when we go back, people gonna start calling a chef, or they're gonna think we're
some big scholar or whatever. And he's the one my teacher used to say, you don't like that? You
can't, it's not fair for you to put it on them. Right? You are the one who knows your level of
knowledge. You're the one who knows, and your connection with Allah, like, you know, so you have to
take care of yourself. And and like, that's, you're honest with yourself, you would know, right?
Even when somebody asks a question or whatever, you know, it's, we all know what we're capable of,
		

			do I have the knowledge of this? Do I not? Should I speak on it? Should I not whatever, if we're
honest with ourselves? So that's why like, I'm, you know, it's this title to me, it is like a little
it's like a one of those confusing areas. Because I, you know, I very much respect somebody who
says, You know, I don't want to be raised above my, my status, or I don't want to be considered as
you find somebody on the on the other hand, you know, sometimes it's just a tool to, you know,
because, because look, how many people, you know, online, right? We have now online speakers. We
have like YouTube chips or whatever.
		

			We're not qualified in the dean. You know, they don't have any education, like formal education. And
they're taken, maybe they don't call themselves share, but they're taken as issue.
		

			Can I tell you something I'm seeing in my because you said to be very natural. Hi. So in my in my
screen, I see something green. And it's kind of bothered me. I don't know. What's that green thing?
So I'm just down here. Yeah.
		

			No, friend my screen so I Oh, your screen.
		

			Okay, just assess that scissors. I was like, What is this thing?
		

			out here? I was like, man, I got a black background.
		

			And
		

			my end, so yeah, so so she see the way you mentioned is that the people tend to give you the label,
right? Yeah. And sometimes, yes, sometimes people do enforce the label. There's no doubt of that.
But I think many times that people that give the label and perhaps perhaps that's how it's supposed
to be. I remember, since once again, this is the last thing I'll say is that this is very natural,
right? Like, for example, LeBron James, he was criticized significantly, because he claimed to be
the goat the greatest of all time. So then then the people can buy their time and call himself the
goat. The goat the greatest of all time. He called himself that. Yeah, he's the best ever completed.
		

			Okay. So before we negotiate whether he is or not other Hall of Famers Isaiah Thomas, and often so
when they said, you don't give yourself titles, right, people mentioned it. Yeah. And then the issue
is that sometimes the people give the titles, and it kind of puts us in a position where we're not
really yeah, so we blame the people sometimes.
		

			Something Yeah. So so like, my
		

			The way I've dealt with it over the years is
		

			I don't really care either way, if somebody wants to call me, Chef, fine. If somebody doesn't want
to call me share, I would never say call me chef, I would never be offended. I would never be any
hurt or like, you know, whatever. Cuz I know like for, like I said, it's relative to people, right?
So I'm like, I'll just leave it up to whoever. And in the end of the day, I have to answer to a lot,
right? Like, I should be sincere with a law and I need to be careful of, you know, when somebody
calls me she does it. Does it affect my heart? Am I like, yeah, I'm a chef, or whatever, you know.
		

			And that's a personal battle, right? That we that we all have to deal with. And I get some people
the way they deal with it is Hey, just don't call me shit. That's fine. I'm not criticizing you, by
the way.
		

			You might.
		

			Huh? Good. But it reminded me of a poster. He just came to me. No, that's it. That's it. Yeah, go
ahead. So I had I had an event. It was in Florida. And there was my myself and two other speakers.
So they put a stab magic moon. Yeah. And then sheriff. I know his name, but so and so. And then he
Ma'am, so and so. Yeah. So when that was in the poster, I myself notice a static image here. And
		

			so can you not people I start asking questions, whether online and from what I recall also in
person, so what's the difference? Yeah, why are you sad? Why is he mad? And why is he? Right? Maybe
I develop a system. How about this diploma? You want to stop that? Chef? masters? Imam, PhD?
		

			Let's, let's maybe maybe this video is what we'll see. I don't know. I don't agree, man. I don't
agree. So the turkey meme right. So here's the other thing with the term. Mm hmm. You know, like we
traditionally when you say Mmm, that's higher than scholar. That's like a big, big, big deal.
		

			Yeah.
		

			Yes, yeah. Yeah, exactly. mm is a very big deal. But the way I think in America, at least, the way
we use mm is if you're like, for example, remember, most people call you Mm hmm. So and so have you
noticed that maybe, depending on the contract is Muslim? Yeah. So Mufti is a little bit. Yeah. So
look, these are very, very big deal. But in in certain schools, or whatever, it's like a title you
get, right after graduating with some of these ones. Oh, so people just use it. But once again,
right, it's relative to the person. I've taught myself to not be offended when somebody uses a title
for themselves or not, or whatever. Because I'm like, a lot of what their intention is. But that
		

			poster you mentioned, yeah, so that's, that's the other issue. Right? So I think we need to be clear
with what we do need is instead of setting clear lines and saying this is
		

			this is a standard, this is shift. What are MFI so
		

			because number one, I don't think everyone will agree on that. I think what we do need to kind of
tell people is that these terms are relative, at least at least in I think in the Western world, or
at least America speak for America, that their relative like don't put too much weight on these
words. For me at least that's how I feel. I'll think though, okay, so you won't be offended if
people call you chef man. Some of you
		

			I called you today to convince you to accept the title ship you know, that is a hidden Okay, I've
done that. When you upload this video. The title make sure share
		

			a YKH Sterling a wire ai AYA why why not AI?
		

			Okay, okay.
		

			Ei Yeah, there's an E I, there's a y, and there's AI.
		

			The AI I'm the NYT actually I'm the AI team as well. You know I like that spelling of the turf Yeah.
		

			Yeah, but there's not enough room in the in the title man in the video.
		

			is gonna be upset then cuz his video just says, I'm not a shoukry. Right. So that's not that's not
cool, man.
		

			No, man, this is I don't know off the top of my head. Just got a couple questions for you. What do
you have? What's going on? What's the what's the latest? The latest news?
		

			You have something? I just remembered something. I was thinking about this. The other reason I
wanted to call you and not just like an audio, video call it because I wanted to look at your hair
and your beard. Because I know I know you're very much on lots of botica Lola baddeck. You're very
particular about your hair and your beard. I mean, not particular eyes in particular as in
		

			you conscious. You want it to look nice, right? You want to take care of it.
		

			You like to take care of your hair and your beard. So obviously with the quarantine barbershops
closed, I want to see like how you dealt with
		

			The whole situation how are you here? Let's, I must say a llama. baddeck looks good. looks amazing.
So have the barbershops opened up or what happened here? You know, and you're putting me in a tough
spot here, share, expose what's been going on.
		

			First of all, I'm a bit nervous because it looks like there's a bald spot here, but I'm gonna have
to take care of after the video shot.
		

			I'll do like a david beckham bending for those who watch football. We're working on I didn't even
notice and it's not a bald spot, man. It's just the lighting. It's the lighting. Mila preserve your
hair. No, you don't. I mean, I mean, okay, as in for the beard. So one of the things I tried to do,
which elongates that period for you to need to line up is waxing. So I just had the battery. I'm
good. So the waxing. So we do the waxing. Wait, wait, hold on, hold on. Hold on. This is you just
dropped a bombshell right here. You wax your your upper cheeks, sir. Wow.
		

			Okay, okay. So how does that work? Like, no, I don't want that. Like the specifics are but like so.
So in last week, right? Yeah, last longer. Definitely. When you when when you do the wax, you know,
it takes a long time for the hair to come back. But the thing is, you cannot wax again until the
hair becomes long enough to get wax again. So there's a period of suffering a little bit. Okay. So
what about the the shape of the of the beard? And you do that yourself? Or you have a guy or no, I
have a guy and he does everything but now obviously the quarantine I tried to attempt to do my my
best and I get nervous and ruin it but it's all good. Now let's get to know whatever you're doing. I
		

			mean, it looks like no no, no barber. No, it's a barber shop on the open. Yeah, he's wearing. He's
wearing a mask. Yeah. All good. Okay, I haven't done that. For a lot. For some people as big a point
of tension, man, there's like that a lot of tension, a lot of anxiety about not going to a barber.
You know, if you're used to, you know, being a certain standard if he was to say, he started
dropping, it's not comfortable. You know, it affects your work. It affects things like that, you
know, it's part of the cleanse, you know, as Yeah, one narration if not best for the lower end. If
I'm not mistaken, he was combing his hair outside the house before he was before he entered. So they
		

			said what are you doing? You're going home? So he said, would I not want my wife look good for me?
Yeah, so then says, As a result, I want to look good for my way. Now. I wish you all of the standard
of the best and that's why we have overheard cuts. Right? Yeah. Jimmy, but the point being is that
it's you know, it's it's something from the from the course.
		

			And I've always I, so what I did during the lockdown, I just come down here. And I've been
comfortable. Like, over the years, I've always tried to keep my skills of cutting my own hair taking
care of myself. So it's obviously not going to be as like as sharp as nice as like a you know,
barber.
		

			But at least you know, presentable, you know, and like you said, I totally agree, like, of course
for your wife or your family, like you know that it makes a big difference, but also for yourself.
Right. And I think one of the one of the things people don't understand is that islamically there's
nothing wrong with feeling good about the way you look. As long as it doesn't lead to arrogance, as
long as it doesn't make somebody arrogant feel like they're better than other people or whatever.
And there's nothing wrong with that. And especially, it's actually a good thing, if we attribute
that to law. Right? This is from a law, and then we make sure cover and so on and so forth.
		

			A lot you know, this actually helps with your smaller helps with your focus at work on it. It's all
later. Nobody say when you look good, you feel good, right? Yeah. What about let's say, You reminded
me Allah says, who do the netcom and the Cooley Mr. Allah says, You look representable everyone to
the mission. And part of it just helped me feel good vibes. hamdulillah
		

			I took a lot of your time, man. No, no, no, no, no.
		

			No pleasure. It's good to talk to you. I know. Like honestly, I could I could talk to you for
another two hours.
		

			comes in right? Yeah, yes, that's gonna be my it's gonna be my limit. Your deadline? Yeah, but 100
lies that good luck. Thank you so much for doing this call with me.
		

			I you know, as I'm talking to you, I like so many other things I want to discuss with you and talk
to you.
		

			But, you know, as I mentioned, when I did the call with Jamal, I just wanted people to see you know,
the fact that public speakers and an amount of instructors or whatever whatever carrier category you
want to put us in. We do rely upon each other for advice
		

			and I am
		

			I do this all the time. And I know you do this as well, that we're not you can't be out there on
your own, you know, taking on the world. I know some people have this perception of, of, you know,
		

			public speakers and whatever that they just like superhuman almost, you know, not productive that
they, you know, they don't need anybody in there, you know, but we all are human beings, we all make
mistakes. We all need advice, right? We need somebody to tell us, we need to have somebody can be
like, Hey, I disagree with this, or maybe this thing you did maybe was wrong or whatever. We all
need a system of checks and balances. But But we do need each other to keep us in line.
		

			accountable sometimes. Yeah. So okay, haha, sorry. I'll let you go. inshallah. Thank you for joining
us for the second time. I really appreciate it, man.
		

			Talk to you soon. I'll give my set on to the kids. Everybody in Michigan.
		

			Same here.
		

			I'll try to be very recent. I'm from Michigan now. Maybe I'll post on social media. Let's see.
		

			Oh, okay. Okay.
		

			I'll forward it there and
		

			take care of
		

			it. Set up.