Nouman Ali Khan – Classical Tafsir – Ep. 5 – Inside the Quran Library
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It's not been all throughout history, that the defeat of urban
cathedra has been given pride of place. This is not what people
studied. Now, if you say I want to study Tafseer to be like, even
cathedral, obviously, it's the first thing you should do, then it
would be the chef, it would be the desireable Badawi it would be the
sort of Razzie, which is more extensive.
But for the short things of the study in the medulla says, it
would be the hashes on this, actually. And
there was someone else I know who wanted it by going there first.
They pretty much said that he came in to get his coffee, we came in
to buy it, and there's nothing left. So it's very important to
have stories and personal relationship with your books, if
you just buy them online, or just happy who has a story with a PDF?
You know, I remember running down the street with that I would have.
We're on to the fasciae, which would be your third and fourth
floor, isn't it?
Yeah, so you can tell. I've arranged the diff series, mostly
in chronological order. There's a little bit of complication. But
okay, so the earliest of the latest? Yeah, and for me, that's
mentally what helps me to remember who came before whom, because
that's pretty otherwise they can forget. Yeah. So we're going to
start the journey up
in what is considered the earliest extent of SEO, that associate of
SEO that we still have in circulation and imprint. So
there's got to sort of McLarty live in Solomon, okay.
And then, of course, the very famous of authority. So the CEO of
MacArthur MacArthur died, if I remember 150
Yeah, so oftentimes, their death is written on the front, and Toby
died in 310. So it is considerably later. But of course, a lot of
people they hear about autopsy or they think of authority, there are
plenty of time series that are around from before authority. And
we're going to take a look also, especially at those linguistic
type commentaries, which he drew upon. So Toby, of course, is
famous for the fact that he and he's not the only one we have a
banner behind him before him as well. Gathered
narration is pertaining to the seer from the earliest
generations. So what has been said sometimes from the prophets of
Salaam, himself, or from some of the Sahaba or from the wn, or the
generation after this, you know, became like an encyclopedia of
these views. But of course, Atari did not just gather views he
himself was, you know, summarizing the different ways that things can
be interpreted and giving the reasons that make some of them
strong, some of them weaker, is preferring things he's talking
about the different readings of the Quran is a very very rich work
actually a lot richer than some of the people who promote it seem to
understand because I've heard people say it's just narrations
and then when I use good link that actually at some point it's got
plenty generations and that's one of the things you know when you
open it up it's actually overwhelming Yeah, read it so when
you open up you just see so many variations here yeah, that you
could almost miss but whatever he actually has color Abu Jaffa
that's him Yeah. So we tend to be before and after. So the red in
your your audition is highlighting his comments. The red is for
various purposes just helps to mark out certain keywords and
things like that. Okay, look and underline that meant I read this
oh my goodness Certainly sir. Don't remember. Okay.
And nobody is worried because it's so important has lots of different
books written about it and raced on it and using as a case study so
I have a couple here from Marcus tafsir about elicited lol This is
lol it's talking about how he what he cites as evidence and how he's,
you know, courts different texts by way of evidence. And this one
assailable Arabiya? I'll worry the flu chronic Kareem? Yeah. What is
the request for acid we'll have to see are there affect the effect of
different
expressions and stylistic expressions in the Arabic
language? So I haven't read this book, but is that also not good
stuff. See, that's also Marcus tafsir and this one is also the
short of his Kadima. So, he's got quite extensive introduction. And
this is a book by chef of the year Mossad. They are, okay. Also from
the markers, and another one about CR, which is to say, context, in
the work of Optometry. So oftentimes people would you would
think of this series as not having any attention to context but in
reality they do. Siaka nothing
A textual context. Yeah, and I think different types of context
section and I see.
So then I've got a Luma 3d. This is the Turkish edition of his
tafsir you know, fairly recent and maturity is basically a
contemporary of him amatory, okay. So as the series also important,
it's, you know, his work is influential, he is considered the
founder of one of the schools of a pizza.
But this is a work that, you know, I'm still getting to grips with To
be honest, in terms of, you know,
the way that it works and the way that he speaks and how he makes
this point. There's a couple there's another worker, I've never
even heard of the same authority until now. Yeah, so it's sometimes
called we let at a sunnah. Okay, but in this edition is called that
will Adam Quran.
So then other sort of from, again, going along a little bit into the
history into the progression of history. This is a sort of Eben
forrec. And this is a very nice addition that's been prepared by
Eleazar actually have, as you can see, I've not read all of which
some of us still stick together, it's got a very nice introduction,
that
and this is only a partial tafsir thing to get sorted. We don't
remember correctly, or no, it's actually is from the end of the is
from there to the end.
And concise commentary looks like, yeah, and this, this particular
author is considered as, again, one of the key thinkers in a
shoddy school. I see. So a lot of that series actually come from a
shadow us and so on. And then there are a few that are more like
Seattle Hadith. So when they are a shoddy, or they
they happen to be a shady and they've done tafsir work, or
there's a lot of shoddy readings into the actually arguments. Yeah.
Like, that's one thing that I'd like to understand better because
like, Hmm, sometimes we associate these attributions to scholars,
but really, it barely comes through in their works, because
that's not what they're, it doesn't seem to me at least, like
they're just obsessed with this idea. And they're trying to
indoctrinate people through that to see, you know, their idea.
Maybe they're responding to some criticisms made about their school
at some point or the other. And of course of their work, but it's
sort of strange to
I mean, yeah, good authors from that land, though, the one that we
discuss a car idea, right. Hopefully would give us a good
kind of answer on this. But I think, in general,
because there was like a majority position like the Usher era where,
you know, we're dominant at certain times of history in their
own places and spaces. So it wasn't about proving something but
there was sometimes
debate with other groups. Not so much like Hadith but actually
marked as Allah. Yeah, the main disputes with the Methuselah so
we're gonna see that when we come to raazi, perhaps even with the
material,
although there are differences, but there wasn't much kind of as
far as I know, animosity or a need to. I've never even heard of such
Yeah. Or need to get one over on the other school. But with the
Martha Zilla, of course, they had very powerful arguments. And yeah,
there's a need to sort of show. Well, our arguments are actually
even better than yours.
So yeah, it just, it tends to be just something doesn't stand out
too much. But occasionally, we're studying something and see it and
I'll tell you, Well, this lamb they said is this lamb can be
fertile, it must be for Syrah or lamb will Atiba right, so that can
just come across as a purely innocent grammatical point. But
how you did it alive and you're kind of logical thing, which is,
well, Allah's actions cannot be subject to consider to be
photocall. Cause and effect cannot be four. It doesn't have to be. We
don't say the reason Kobe is going to talk about the wisdom but we
can talk about his God, I suppose it's similar in philosophy being
inside the mind of God. Like yes, say God does this because XYZ
Yeah, so it just like the questions that arise are sometimes
related to deeper theological. Yeah, and then you might not
notice and that's the case of course with the chef or the
machinery we'll come to in a moment. This is a book by Al yd.
And why they actually has three that have zero allergies and we'll
see it and Albacete okay, it's expensive. So this is the middle
one, the middle one in four volumes. And one of my teachers is
one of the
editors are the two other men who is Rahim Allah. So yeah, this is a
heady. And it turns out, what's a salient feature of this series?
Was it
basically all three what is well, the citizen is just in the middle
in length, so he writes his most extensive X
stencil wants to proceed. And this is where you started to see tafsir
really take shape
in terms of the fullness of the genre and covering a vast number
of topics. So Professor Willett Saleh, I mentioned a couple of
times has talked about the importance of the Nisha Puri
School of tafsir. So far he is exemplary in that school.
So I have here some kind of things that there's sometimes things are
not necessarily a fault of SEER but like to seriously Mamluk as
early as just things that are extracted from others of his
works. So chronologically, he fits here, so as I call him and he's
got Jawaharlal Quran,
which is here.
And then, in a way of Mr. Machete, chronologically, you've got then
PIP unhealthier, eternal Josie. And then this is the kind of
deceit of Ibn Taymiyyah.
Even Taymiyah Rahim Allah died in seven to eight, the hijra, he
doesn't have a full difficile as such, she has some writings into
Syria, which are scattered in what we have now. Because much more al
fatawa you can find things in there.
But this book just kind of summarizes some of the his tafsir
opinions.
And this became important to me when I was researching something
and ITIL sauce. Yeah, that was because we were doing the deeper
look all the time. Yeah. And when I was really struggling to come up
with a good explanation for how the wording of the IRA is meant to
match with what the fuqaha animal for Ceylon understand from the
higher especially a horrible, horrible habit of lab, they will
also be known certainly right, you know, free month for free man,
slave for slave women for women are female or female. So when I
came across his view, in here,
I suddenly realized that there was a very different way of reading if
there had been Tamia advocates. And so a few years later, I ended
up publishing a paper on that subject, which is called fights
and flights. And it's the Journal of Quranic studies. So not gonna
explain it further.
We should read Yes, insha Allah, and it's it's open access everyone
can get.
So other thinkers dilemma Michelle, TV I mentioned to you,
so that kind of reaches the end of that chronological period. Then we
could say, the next what about the how actually, you were saying that
you were gonna, or we're still hearing that? So yeah, actually,
we kind of get into the hashes story now. So a hash here means
super commentary, or a gloss or marginal commentary. So one of the
beautiful things about the tissue tradition along with other
subjects is that
of course, we've got the text of the Quran. And then emphasis is
trying to give you what you need to understand the text of the
Quran says genitive seer of the text of the Quran, right? Then
later on, you know, some of this stuff series became so well
established and well respected that people said, all we need is
to actually do a commentary on that commentary.
Right? So the distiller was actually for example, let me pull
that down here.
And I'll pull out one volume of this. So as the machinery, of
course, is famous for being from the martyr Zilla. So it's a group
which has certain ideas which go against the understanding of Atlas
sunnah, broadly conceived, and those beliefs are, you know, are
reflected in his tafsir. But aside from that, the deceit itself has a
really magnificent approach to studying the Quran from the
perspective of Bulava right. So, you can say he implemented the
ideas of aplicado journey who, who centered belaga in understanding
the miracle of the Quran. So, as the mixture is the seed implements
that project, you could say and nobody after him has been able to
deny how you know, excellent, he captured this dimension and how
important his work is then to be built upon now, because he was
from this summer, what does he learn group
there was often felt a need to at least point out those instances,
what are those issues
and sometimes you had a whole Tafseer written which kind of
incorporated from the cache half of the machinery what you know,
what they felt can be incorporated and then mixed it with other
things, you know, to, you know, to add further insights or to make it
more Sunni and so on. So, after the deceit of zoom, actually, we
have the suitable AbuDhabi to sort of unnecessary, both of which, so
nice so Badawi is Shafi NSV is Hanafi
but they're both from at a sunnah. So they recast a lot of the
material from the Keshav into a mortar
palatable form for the Sunni reader. But in addition to that,
we have the hash here tradition. So this one has got this copy,
which is the chef and one volume, which is a bit unusual. It's quite
tiny. But you've got the hash here of YBNL Munna year, which was
mostly about calling him out on all this more Tesla business. But
then this larger hasha here is one of many, many houses she that were
written on the Kashif, but it's one of the later ones and gathers
a lot of the insights of earlier ones. And it's by Allah Allah a
TB.
So this is coming in 17 volumes really exhaustive. Yeah, so like a
shelf itself. Yeah. So up here, we've got the text of the Keshav.
And then below the line, you've got DBS commentary. So then
whatever, there's something in bold, it tells you Well, there's a
bit of a commentary on it down below. So if you find trouble,
sometimes understanding the words of some of the lemma, sometimes
there will be Hawaii, which helps you to explain what the island
intends and what he's getting at. Yeah. So the hasher tradition
isn't it is a hugely fascinating and under studied parts of parts
of the sea. And actually, there needs to be a lot more focus on on
how that works. Because it's where things become really, really in
depth.
Because in the in Hawaii, they kind of like, okay, the main job
of explaining the Quran was done. But now I'm going to take this
tiny little thing that this caller mentioned, and I'm going to say,
Oh, that's interesting, let's elaborate on that. Whereas if they
were writing a fresh Tafseer, they might feel well, obviously, that's
too much of a tangent got a high share tradition is tangents, you
know, upon tangents is what it's all about. And it's so much fun.
So I'm going to show you some more when we get around to the big
lobby and cool.
So this is just another book about a chef, and it's artisanal
content. And then there are folks at the theater COVID or kalamansi.
We bring these down as a few other books related to it. So of course,
same I'm Ross is tafsir.
It's very important that tradition are very important to me
personally, because I have had the honor of translating parts of it,
including from volume one, I'll show you what our translators copy
of over the series looks like. So you just open any page, and you'll
see, you know, this is very extensively annotated. I have here
a list of typos in the,
in the edition that I'm using.
So, you know, this is this is where I worked from to translate
volume one.
And,
you know, there's no good copy of this tafsir at the current time,
so a lot of people ask, Which one do I use? This is the one I used
al hadith of Cairo. But it has like all the copies that exist in
the market today.
Just many, many flaws, just inaccurate things, the sentences
are wrong,
you know, alternating today, imminent to Cofer and and vice
versa. Oh, yeah.
Ouch.
So resistor seed is very important. It it takes from the
camshaft to a large extent, it takes also from Iowa, to a large
extent engages with lots of other seeds is critical of those among
the machines views on many things, at least as that is all
different definitely his critical events as well, yes. But like the
machinery is giving you the linguistic reading of the ayah and
SWANA. He quotes him approvingly a lot even quotes, his
sort of stories and stuff like that. So when Razzie tells you
about the names of the brothers of use of Islam, he's taking it from
them, actually. But then when he's talking about whether use of Allah
sub did anything wrong with the wife, as he's well aware, this
has, yeah, he did, he would got very close to doing some very bad
things. And the Razzie spends, you know, pages and pages just
slamming Awadhi. Like, how dare he suggest such a thing? And it
doesn't make any sense and nothing before, nothing after it supports.
So I had this view. And why this only claim only support is to say,
Oh, lots of facilities said, he said, You know, so, you know, some
if some of the students said something doesn't make it true.
That's a Razzie telling you that okay? So when we say it shouldn't
be such a surprise is other than just like, puffing yourself up
with names of people that you quote, you have to have evidence,
right. And if there's some facility who said this is other
universities who said that so just to claim, you know, appeal to
authority is not enough. Yeah. Yeah. So that's how our tradition
is you know, people sometimes think a matter is settled if it's
stated in a book, right, right. But as the single idea can travel
through the books and
can travel approvingly if a literal author just feels? Yeah,
well, they said is fine. I'll write it as well. Right? It
doesn't mean the independently. Sony evaluated it. And then it
came to my homes, something hits your intellectual radar, and, you
know, alert goes off other times you just tacitly figure. Yeah, I
can see what that's right. And you just kind of move on. Yeah. And
you know, sometimes I feel like I may have said, Your Surah
discussed or talked about or thought about it, and then
somebody brings up something else again, never thought about that.
Wow, that completely changes my view. Now I need to re investigate
something I thought I had studied. So and that is evidenced in our
tradition. So yeah, yeah. So so that's the that's the way it is
when it comes to earlier opinions. You know, they may challenge them,
they may just let them pass.
But there's so much richness even just in following code and opinion
traces Yeah, tracing of that opinion. Yeah, a few books about a
Razzie about his life his you know, his books. This is one his
book as well. halomonas, the battle Charania
Ender for the mammal Razzie feet of psyllium Verdean. I
said extraction from the book extraction of business well, it's
it's focusing on how does he understand when asked about wishes
to see a kind of contextual connections between for example,
the end of one surah the start of the next Surah or between one eye
on the next or one passage or the next so it's quite nice study by
NASA scholar
refer to Masuri element Cole will mark who will fit the seal career
so something about kind of the balance between what's typically
called the
FCRA Yeah, you know, the sort of the transmission based and, and
rational based approaches.
So then continuing on our historical journey
we've got here
your favorite but your addition cannot be as pretty as mine
we'll call it a call to be by look at the exteriors is pretty Yeah,
it was very pretty. I mean, I don't buy it solely for that
reason, but it's factor.
And I have this thing on Twitter where if I see someone shares in
addition somebody but mine is prettier, and I put a picture
because I've got some really pretty books mashallah, every
single shell mashallah, Mashallah. So, of course, I'll call to be you
know, from the handle Lucien tradition from the camel Quran
tradition. So there's a certain subset of the fears, which
in a way, like we talked about somatic tafsir, and how we'd like
a thematic treatment. So a common Quran is a kind of thematic
treatment as well. So if I wanted to I could put up in the themes
according to be kind of takes those works. And he presents what
they have, along with very more general tafsir concerns.
But the title Afghan Jamelia camel Quran reflects that the core thing
is, what are the rulings that extract extracted from? Oh, this
is something I want to show you. Okay. Check this out.
So this is our volume book is specifically about the poetic
lines quoted by unquote, the Venus tafsir. So in each one, it tells
you sort of where it appears and what context what was the purpose
of citing it. Sometimes it will tell you it comes from this point
and this collection, it will tell you sometimes the meaning of the
words, which as somebody who didn't study, share very
extensively, you know, it was
Yeah, yeah. I haven't done too much with this book yet. But it's
going to be something I'll give some more attention to. Maybe we
can work on it together. Yeah, possibly. Yeah. Because
one of the when we're reading through tafsir, we often come
across a line of share. And if we're in a hurry, we'll say, okay,
okay. Good. Pass over that. Yeah. But then we are missing something,
which is actually part of the fabric of Tafseer. Yeah. And
that's in order to show that
the linguistic point that's being made can be backed up with some
things that exist outside of the room. Yeah. Especially in things
that are prior to kind of revisiting my studies of Bulava
looking at shear. That's something that I couldn't really find the
resources to study properly for a while, right. And my first kind of
easy in was Raymond Ferran because he had done so much stuff on
Sharjah he taught courses on it, put materials together in English
for it. And then I realized that it's not just that the showerhead
is being used in the facility like, Okay, this word is being
used by the poet here and etc, etc.
There are lots of really interesting literary and blocky
techniques that
poet's are employing very creatively. And then the Quran is
taking, you know, a unique step even above that. But if you don't
understand the human limit the human creative limit, then you
don't get to appreciate really the divine, you know, touch above and
beyond it right. So that that becomes important. For that
reason, it is definitely something that I'm still lacking in and I
really want to deepen my knowledge of, yeah, so for those who are
still, you know, at the right point in their lives and their
paths, and you have a chance to, you know, master the Arabic
language, including the literature aspect of it that yeah, you know,
grab on to that one. Because one day, you'll be old like us.
Right, so, the next work is a really interesting one. It's a
recent publication, okay. But the author was, as you can see, a
little bit after the time of Rosie and of course, OB, and before the
likes of adventure, say, and even kofi, Assad will have tackled star
who had called asteria headcollar star. What's that
mean it can mean like violating but it was just like breaking
through the very reveals and
it's quite a violent title. I think. Cash Flow SR will hit gold
star, we are getting rid of all the
barriers. This work by someone called a soft deep.
What's weird about it is that you when reading it, you almost feel
like it was written as A by A modern scholar, really.
He leans quite heavily towards Quran only approach, which is not
something you tend to find in classical work.
So he just tries to really take the Quranic text on itself, he
doesn't give much space towards Athar, and so on and so on.
So it just adds something different to the to the Quranic
library. And
for me, because I've been researching the Quran,
you know, these are some books written to scrub DQ Q as I call
it, they haven't really taken into account of a suffer D. But it does
turn out that somebody could be considered the first book of the
zero Columbia Quran that we have.
In terms Yeah, I'm noticing I'm not seeing narrations here. In
several places. Yeah. And in the introduction, he explains his kind
of stance on that. And
yeah, it's it's an interesting one, he's not entirely
conventional professor. But at the same time, it's not like some guy
in a university in 2020.
Right, next one is the fear of urban design.
This is actually a book about the state of New Jersey. And this is
first four volumes. I've been teaching this tafsir for last two
years. We have a group of students who have been going through it
with me and will actually
they're watching me edit
a draft translation that was done. So Inshallah, once this is all
finished, we will have a publication of
what you're looking at here is this sort of lexicon part of the
beginning, where he talks about the meanings of words and then he
gets into the tissue proper. So yeah, we'll have we'll have a full
translation of this inshallah we'll be able to make that widely
available. As I've seen, it's, it's a kind of brief one. Consider
a Makita sir, is not the briefest of all of series, but it's
genuinely on the side of brevity. Again, and the Lucien scholar, he,
you know, he died in in a battle there in Tarifa. So, I'm quite
keen to go back to Spain and visit you know, kotoba and Tarifa and,
you know, some of these places were not far from here. Active,
you know, scholars and so much creativity. You know, so what
service to Quran? Yeah. And another very important one from
Granada.
Yeah. So we had called Double rib. Okay, so Granada. Abhiyan, to
cielo Hayyan. I actually don't have a copy here of our hands to
see. Not because not important, but because you have a hammerhead.
Yeah, yeah, I have it. The reason I have two copies, yeah, probably
not a one enough to impress you. So
that's the so the reason I didn't buy it at the time is because
the additions that were available were considered to be not very
good, and I wasn't sort of in great need of Ohio's tafsir. At
that time. I certainly didn't feel that way. But probably I should, I
should cross that boundary. I do have for his student though. So
very important student of verbal Hyang is a seminal Halaby so this
is Amin al Halaby Estherville Halaby, which would translate to
the stoat, Allah Pate, or other pain. Yeah, the stone dilemma
nobody quite knows why is he called a seminal Halaby? Was he
Sameen? Or not? We don't know, we don't really know. Some people
call them even seminal Halaby. So maybe was his father who was
stopped him from Aleppo. Anyway, he has got this the seal, we could
call it the seal, but it's very sort of specifically focused on
the Arab
and things related to our Rob and krad. So you could say that that's
that content reflects
mostly from his teacher as well.
Right. And both of them also were quite
strong in their, in their defense of the seven Korat seven canonical
readings of the Quran, okay, in the face of, you know, certain
things said by the comedian's Sharla will touch on this topic
when we look more at the Quran section. But sometimes I put the
books that are related to a particular tissue, right? These
are all related to a similar pattern in how we are the
responses to his work, or criticisms of his work, or what
are no, this is basically summarizing a particular aspect
that you find in his work. So it's like a thematic extraction and
study. And the business scenario didn't we will manner and the
similar hobbies fascinating kind of topic, like how do you get
between the meaning the intended meaning? And then the pure grammar
rules? You know, does one necessarily follow from the other?
Right? So my teachers would tell me,
Rob woofer, will mana. Rob depends on and it is an extension of the
meaning, right, based on what you when you understand the meaning,
you know, what they are up should be? Right. But at the same time,
on some level, at least, they need to know they are out from it.
Yeah. So how do these things relate together? It's actually
slightly more complicated. We often think, again, chicken,
because it's true, you can actually determine what they are
obvious until you also have a sense of what the meaning is
right? It goes kind of run in circles.
Alright, so then we come to one of the most famous of seen as a to
see Rubin cathedral pulled them down earlier. And even Cathedral
is a student of Ibn Taymiyyah Ragamala. And is, you know, his
book takes a fair amount and, you know, critically analyzes material
from poverty, and others alike have been behind them, for
example.
But you can find the top of his presence is here.
This particular edition is like the most Salafi edition that I
could find, because I actually was interested in seeing the footnotes
from the likes of Fibonacci mean.
Milk bill, worthy
Sadie L. Bernie,
various others, right. So there's some additional footnotes here.
And this work, of course, it because here's the seat is very
respectable and respected. But we should also understand that there
is a history and a reason behind that respect. It's not been all
through our history, that the defeat of Ibn cathedra has been
given pride of place.
If you were to look at the seminaries that we're teaching,
the theater and other subjects in the Muslim world, for example, in
the Ottoman lands, or in the east, or in North Africa or wherever you
look,
you will not find that if cerium and Casio has any place in that
this is not what people studied. Now, you will say I want to study
to see to be like, even concede, obviously, it's the first thing
you should do, then it would be the chef, it would be the
observable Badawi it would be the sort of quasi which is more
extensive.
But for the short things of this study in the medulla says it would
be the hashes on diversity and Bobby, right.
Both of whom are earlier
than the earlier seminaries weren't focused on things like
nobody.
Not to a large extent. I mean, ultimately, again, being so
voluminous, was not so practical for the reason I asked that is, I
would imagine the earlier seminaries would be more
interested in something that's got narrations more, even though a
Razzie cites narrations but it's not focused on the narrations for
example so narration based study wasn't the the centerpiece the
centerpiece was shocking to hear it was analysis which is
grammatical analysis
Yes, for sure. The the approach to SR was there later on we have a
suit is a doorman for Right. Which kind of strips down works like a W
Swan to just generations
and that can be useful. In fact, what happens is then you get later
on with a city in Lake
cuz Shoka Annie, who's over here? That's much later and it's like,
mostly later. But what what he, what he does is in the beginning,
he says, Well, I've taken a daughter, mentor by CLT. And then
I've brought all my best brain powers. And I've combined them
together. banal melancholia will map. Cool, right. So it's never
the case that people sort of preferred a purely asset based
approach or narration based approach. And the centerpieces of
the curriculum, were not based on that. See, ribbon catheterization
got a lot more in it again than people. So it's got insights. It's
got it's got Yeah.
And it is a worthwhile work. But it's just important to know that
at some point, the turn of the 20th century, certain forces and
by the way, it wasn't the Saudis asserts that comes a bit later.
But even in Egypt, and so on those who who saw in it, what the, what
they liked, decided, well, let's print that, let's fund the
printing of that. And then later on, other people saw it as well,
let's translate that Let's fund the translation and distribution
of that around the world. And then, let's put that onto a CD
ROM, and then the CD ROM gets turned into websites and apps. And
so everyone just thinks, Well, of course, the serum in theory is the
most important, because it's the one I've heard of. Right? It's the
one that's on the websites, it's the one that's on all the apps, it
must be because it's the best one. That's not how it works. That's
not why that's the why is the most prominent one is because of some
decisions that have been made interesting, and where the money
is, but now we talk about people on social media that have the most
following almost having the most validation in a subject or a field
where he
or she must know, because look how many followers, right?
So human tendency doesn't depend on technology, technology only
accelerates the same tendency. So a little bit left before we start
to come to the modern period. Right.
So we've got here to Selma. Hi, Amy. Have you had a look at this I
have never seen that before. So this one can be seen as a
precursor to be clear, he really who's important because it's also
kind of
he says that he's like, believe the exact same copy of
it doesn't matter. You've got either the Indian edition knows
many more volumes than this. Or this is Dr. Koop elmia.
This one addition, which is
come on, I was almost feeling good about myself for a second. I mean,
I just don't like the I don't like the green. But I know the green is
kind of annoying. I thought I would like my friends. I don't.
And then this one. So it's this comes a little bit earlier. So
because he is his death is behind me that is behind me. So he's an
Indian scholar, really.
And he's also famous for being a prominent Sufi.
So I think he's sometimes known as Makhdoom Alma HeyMy.
Um, so you've got here another approach before it'll be like the
book I also draws from someone called Al Hara Lee
who this been some studies on his work, but I don't have any copy of
the book. I often quote somebody before him as well.
With a Becca, is this on any of the digital platforms? Like for
con or probably no.
It might be on the fear of co.net. Altitude.
Calm maybe there.
But I don't know. Okay.
Very interesting.
So the, when it comes to this, even mir or anybody else didn't
cite Miami. Yeah.
Despite him being I'll tell you what.
The slahi in his introduction mentions him. No way. Yeah.
Because I just wrote
a paper on the history of the SiliconANGLE Quran so that I, I
was about to see the one behind me. I was wrestling because I
don't know who I heard mentioning behind me. I was about to say my
baby's name is sometimes mentioned in this connection. I didn't know
who has said it. Then it was he mentioned will you Dean Malawi.
We are who it just sounds like he's just giving a brief kind of
Muhammad ibn atma Debian Osman and lost money at the big ol Malawi.
So in a way he's trying to just kind of show that there are people
before me who had ideas that are somewhat related to what I'm
doing, but not good enough. That's what he's been. That's basically
what this is telling you.
So yeah, the last ones that I've got okay after but by him. So
yeah.
Luca is noteworthy for
two main reasons one, this tenacity approach this kind of
structural flaw
and number two very poetic language is great
I struggle with Boko Haram. Yes, I try to keep just Walla Walla
Walla, okay, but that's the that's that's this formula of indicating
why something is connected to the Yeah, but he's still run on
sentences, man, they just go on forever. You're like where did it?
Well, I use Arabic and then there's like so Schiff, Ali Hani
and Jordan, who I've had the pleasure to meet a few times. And
I was speaking recently to one of his longer term students, Dr.
Sahil Hanif. And he made me realize that I've probably been
underrating a big lie or giving him not enough attention as it
should. Because it seems that you know, from from Shefali harneys
approach that careful reading of RBI can be very, very fruitful.
And if you look carefully at what he's doing with reference to
etymologies a little hints as to
what he hints at something about where the word is coming from, but
he's not like going to spell that out for you. Right, you have to
kind of read with some lines with him,
which is another challenge. And then he also uses a lot of
biblical material with the other. Yes, yes. Again, well, it's solid
has written about because he,
and remind me a little bit of Keshav took a shot for us biblical
material goodness, like Sasha used, yes, but what but what he
did that was a bit unusual was he used it almost as if to say, you
know, this is this functions as tafsir. You know, we can quote a
length like four pages
after discussing something from the Quranic perspective and say,
Okay, let's, let's read some pages from the Arabic Bible.
And some people questioned him on that and disagreed with him on
that. And he wrote a treatise what time and what time period in
history to replace him. So is it here? It's five exist this date?
Yeah.
Um, so better reading Arabic? I can. But I really like this clip.
matawa first annotated five.
Just just to raise my brain. Yes, yes, I sympathize with your
struggle. So by the way, I was paying attention to when we were
speaking, some of the Arabs and in rehab, was paying attention to
their use of numbers. They were wrong every time
in one way, or like they don't go from smallest to largest know, the
gender agreements and disagreements that are considered.
They were they were not making those changes. Regardless of the
model being well, the receptionist was trying to tell me the Wi Fi
code, and she said herba are Bahama rods.
So I was about to say four, four. And this is Alba or Burma razzing
me 444444 times. Yeah. So yeah, it can be hard to process sometimes
when you say.
Right, so then, just let's conclude here on the hashes. Okay.
We talked about the hash here on the chef, right? I mean, that's
one of the hashes on the cache. Then we have got hashes on the big
IP. Okay. So because I don't have a separate copy of we lobbyists,
but though we have these hashes, and a beloved ignore shot, while
we use focused on Bala Hall, so it's funny
to an extent, because like he is following the kind of
structural basis of any Kusha personifying the Kashif in a
sense. Yeah, in a very simplistic way, that is exactly what, that's
exactly what we said. So what is the benefit of the Hashi of
Malawi?
Is it possible Badawi incorporates more than just the Kruszewski
incorporates from a Razzie your copies from a record loss for
honey as well. Oh, wow. Okay. So meaning his dictionary. Noise
dictionaries. Glad to see it. Robert is for honey has it this
year?
I did not know that. But it's not I don't think it's like all
published, I think is Sue, I think it was when they got it in
Parliament. But so a bit Bobby's incorporating those insights. And
then instead of doing a hash, you're on the dodgy dodgy cache if
you could do a hash here on the lovely listener and below.
So that's, that's perhaps the undo anything? Yeah. So is that work
has pretty much been done. So this is a very recent publication with
the hasher of enrollment CLT. Remember SMM? A CLT of its kind
guy. Yeah. Many, many, many, many works, but one of them is his
Hashi on the bill Barr weakness, a new edition published by Dr. Liu
bab. Oh, I should have mentioned
when I said that there's no good edition of a Razi with Alibaba are
now doing an additional Razi inshallah should be excellent
because they, you know, they care about what they're doing.
Unlike everybody else who printed the Razzie before.
So the famous hashes and Badawi more famous than suit is in fact
is how she does she have enough energy on to silver Lori this
prints
not very good. And how she will Conaway is another one that
A friend of mine was pressuring me so much to buy it eventually I
just did. And it's good.
But I bought this purely out of peer pressure this one, but
certainly it's it's the most extensive, hasher that I've gotten
very loving and I found it interesting for some
research purposes.
And then I've got also hashey Up here on
the dwelling. So Julian again, our man, a silty, right, he did the
second half of it, but as this which is actually the first half
in the book because Imam Joella Deen al Mahali did the second half
of the Quran that he passed away and then a man suit he came and
completed from an Bukhara to the middle of the Quran. Oh, so that's
why it's called Angela lane. Because two generals, gelatine and
Mahali, Geraldine a CLT. And then
we have got this hashey on it, which is by someone who's called
the camel.
I mean, he's got a name is Solomon be normal? Hello, J Lee.
A Sheffy. Who is famous as a German. So how should the German
LNG lending?
So then sometimes you've got the interview, the SATA Lopate. Note.
The camp as you have the camera on the Janella. And for those of you
who don't understand what an alibi, it is someone from Aleppo
writes the fat man from Aleppo. Yeah, allegedly. So clearly there
is a hashtag on the seat of unnecessary as I mentioned in a
sophister series very heavily based on the machetes.
But then this is a hashtag a copy of Anna Sophie.
You should yeah, I can give you one. I got Oh, you got I don't
have a clean well, yeah. So this
I am sure that some of these were recommended to me by the the chef
Callahan, he recommended this to me that we should definitely have
it. Okay.
And I remember what I bought this in Istanbul, and there was someone
else I know who wanted it. But I got in there first.
Very proud of myself. And then he came in to get a squatty who came
in to buy it and there was none left.
There. What about that one it sold, who bought it, and I was
halfway down the street.
So it's very important to have stories and personal relationship
with you. Because if you just bind them online, or just have been who
has a story with a PDF, you know, I remember running down the street
with that I would have been a troll that Ryan so how do you feel
now that I body clean?
Very nice. Very nice. Yes. Hamdulillah. So this was a good
run through the class and Alec Leal these these How are she or
what timeframe?
So yeah, so various sort of CLT died in as I said, the date in
911. Right. And then these are chronological, because I did check
that way. I can remember the exact dates. This is 1069, Alhaji is
getting further and further by a century. Yeah. And this he was
1195. Wow. So it's getting more and more contemporary. Yeah. So
these ones have like literally like hundreds of how she not all
of them are hugely Smith significant. But there's quite a
few significant ones. Because in some of the seminary system, in
the Ottoman times, at least, it used to be quite normal that you
would write a hash here. Not necessarily because the world
needed you to do it, but because it was a process. Now imagine that
measure setting your students that, you know, to show that you
have mastered the tradition, right, a hash, you're on a tafsir.
So then you have to show that you know what you're talking about,
right? When you're explaining it.
That would be like a master's dissertation, something like that.
And if it was good enough, it could to become a publication one
day, you know, if not, then it just gets added to the pile of our
she. Wow.
Remarkable. Pamela.
So now Inshallah, in our next discussion, we're going to move on
to next time or come contemporaries. Yeah, pretty much
the modern period or right before the modern period. Okay. Okay.
Exactly. Okay. Fantastic stuff. BarakAllahu welcome, Salam.
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