Naima B. Robert – Q&A on Firsttime Intimacy & Vaginismus Amirah Zaky
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Ladies. Welcome to our final
talk in the Muslim self care conference.
I would just like to take a moment
to just express
my gratitude to firstly Allah
for allowing this to happen.
And he knows
how he allowed it to happen. And only
he knows
So I thank him for allowing us to
be able to join here together and for
all our wonderful panelists being able to make
the time, for all of you to be
able to make and find the time in
your days to be here, to attend, to
be a wonderful audience, to be fair.
And I ask that Allah blesses you all.
As I said, this is our final talk,
and this is miss Amira Zaki, and she
is going to be speaking about how to
be fearless in the bedroom. So I'm gonna
hand it over to you, sis. Bismillah, take
it away. Bismillah, thank you so much, Usnayama.
It's a pleasure to be here.
So I wanna start off by getting you
to think about your first
memories
of *, Not in terms of your first
memory of having * itself if you're married
right now but in terms of when you
actually found out what * was.
When was that? So think back to that
moment for yourself
and also think back to the kind of
thoughts that you had about it and the
feelings you had about it. Maybe think about
how old were you? Was it a positive
thought or a positive feeling or a positive
experience?
That time when you first kind of heard
about * and started understanding what it is
and what it involves or was it negative
thoughts, negative feelings, a negative experience?
And there is a kind of broad range
there. You know?
It could be, you know, your experience could
be extremely negative or it could be extremely
positive. Maybe you were brought up by parents
who were very open and talked about *
or maybe you weren't. So I just really
want you to just start off by thinking
about that. And as you start thinking about
those things, I'm going to talk about my
experience and what led me to be here
today, talking to you and sharing my experience.
And also inshallah I'll talk about the work
that I do and why I do it.
So for me personally
my kind of first understanding of * started
in year 7. I was in high school,
and I remember being in a biology lesson
and just kind of flicking through the textbook,
and I happened to land on a on
on an image. And that image was quite
a graphic image. It was like a cartoon
image of a man and a woman having
* where you could actually see the penis
in the *.
And when I first looked at it, I
didn't understand what was going on. I had
never really,
like, thought about * before. I didn't know
what was going on, and I think I
read the caption under that image.
And I was pretty horrified because I was
like, what's going on here? Is this really
what happens?
And I don't know whether you have had
something similar happen to you. And then later
on as I went through high school,
maybe as I was approaching year 10 and
11,
I heard one of my friends. She was
talking about her older sister. So she was
a non Muslim, and she was talking about
her older sister
and how her older sister
had * for the first time and
how extremely painful it was. And when I
heard that story, it horrified me once again.
And so
I also came from a family where my
parents didn't really talk to me about *
and if they did it was kind of
brought up in a negative way like you
are not to have * whatsoever, you need
to remain a virgin, you know, if you
have * that is a huge sin which
is all correct but I think the,
thoughts and things that I heard about *
and things that I saw related to *
were very, very negative. And so I just
want you to question
what how you were brought up and raised,
in terms of your ideas about *.
Later on, I started learning a bit more
particular things
like when a virgin loses her virginity,
her hymen has to break.
That was the kind of story I heard
and how if the hymen breaks, it leads
to bleeding and how painful that is. So
once again, that brought back horror with like,
that that horrified feeling, that same horrified feeling.
And then I kind of left high school
and went on to 6th form just before
university
and, you know, could continue to hear negative
stories about *. It was never really painted
in a very good light. And then I
happened to meet my now husband
back then in 6th form, and we actually
got married really, really young. We got married
at age 18,
simply because I met him, got to know
him, we liked each other, and we didn't
wanna
do haram things together. So I told my
parents about him. He told my parents his
parents about me, and we got married really,
really young. And I think there are positives
and negatives to getting married at such a
young young age. So we got married, but
we actually didn't live together until we were
19. So we continued living with our own
parents for a whole year.
And then we decided after a year at
age 19, we got, we decided to move
out together. So we moved out together. We
rented a 1 bedroom flat actually near my
university.
And,
you know, when we moved out, we decided
that that would be our wedding night because
we were finally in our own place.
So, we did a kind of little party
because we'd already kind of got married and
had a big party. Just before we moved
out, we did a little party with just
my close friends and family
and then we moved into our flat together.
And that would have been my wedding night.
So I made sure I got dressed up,
did my makeup really nice, made sure I
was wearing really nice lingerie
as I'm sure if any of you are
married probably did the same sort of thing.
And I expected to on that night to
go from being a virgin
to not being 1.
But I was really, really anxious. I was
really nervous. In fact, I would say I
was pretty fearful
of that of my wedding night because of
all those negative stories I'd heard
about how painful it was. I simply had
a fear of pain and I also had
a fear of the unknown.
I had thoughts coming up inside me where
I was wondering, is it true is it
true what these women say about it being
so painful?
Surely, it must be true because so many
people have have
have said the same thing. These were the
thoughts going on in my head right before
doing the deed with my husband.
So, you know, we we tried to get
in the mood and that kind of thing.
We did engage in foreplay,
and
it came it came to the time where
I was about to lose my virginity.
And as my husband's penis was entering my
*,
all I could feel was immense pain, so
much so that I screamed and told him
to get off me because I was like,
he's he's trying to break through my hymen.
Surely, that's the barrier because in my mind,
I thought the hymen was a barrier back
then. And I told him to go off
me and I was like, I can't do
it.
And he was like, what's wrong? He tried
to reassure me, but I was like, it's
too painful, and I can't bear it. And
so we kind of ended on a negative
note. Our wedding night wasn't this positive experience.
It was in fact a pretty dreadful experience
for me. I think I even burst into
tears and my husband was like, that's okay.
We can try again later, which we did.
We tried again, I think, probably the next
day or the next week, and we kept
on trying, but the same thing kept happening.
It was all every single time that we
tried it was painful. In fact every single
time that we tried it seemed to get
more and more painful so much so that
I would dread it and I felt like
a pretty lousy wife in terms of I
felt like I couldn't
satisfy
satisfy my husband's needs in that way. So
we resorted to other methods things like outer
course to satisfy our sexual needs.
But there was still this kind of
void, this emptiness. I didn't feel like a
woman. I was still a virgin in essence
because he wasn't able to penetrate me, and
I really didn't know what to do.
And we pretty much lived like that for
a whole year. And at the end of
that year,
my husband and I had a conversation and
we could see that this was placing
such a huge burden in our marriage
because only us 2 knew about this thing.
We didn't discuss it with anyone. We didn't
talk about it with our family friends. We
kind of thought we were the only people
in the world to go through this, to
have an unconsummated marriage for a whole year.
And it got to a point where my
husband pretty much said if this continues
we're probably gonna have no choice but to
get divorced.
He didn't say it in a threatening way.
It was just both of us were feeling
really disheartened
and we didn't know what to do. And
so I had a choice in front of
me. I could either just allow myself to
be a victim and say, okay. That that's
it. I'm gonna have to get divorced.
Or I decided, even though I was quite
young, I decided I'm gonna have to do
something about this and take this into my
own hands.
So what I did is I went on
the Internet and I started searching for solutions
to painful * and I kept on doing
lots of research and looking at different links
and eventually I came across the term vaginismus.
Prior to that I had never heard of
vaginismus in my life And so as I
skimmed through, I was like, surely I don't
have this thing called vaginismus.
But something was telling me that I just
needed to read up about it, so I
did. I read up about what vaginismus is.
And as I was reading about it, it
was like this light bulb moment
happened because I was like, that's it. That's
exactly what I'm going through. And I couldn't
believe it because when I read that it
was an actual known
medical term, it's a known medical condition,
I felt this huge sense of relief because
I was like, I know that I'm not
the only one. Because if there's a medical
term for something, you know that there's at
least there are at least going to be
a few people that suffer from this thing.
And so I continued doing some reading about
vaginismus
and came to understand
that vaginismus was completely
curable,
and it involved,
different types of therapy using tools known as
dilators.
And these tools, dilators, are tools that you
insert into your *. They come in different
sizes
and you need to practice something called a
reverse kegel.
Essentially, what a reverse Kegel is you might
have heard of Kegel exercises.
A reverse Kegel is the opposite where you
are actually learning
how to get your pelvic floor muscles to
be relaxed.
Because what I learned about vaginismus
is
is that vaginismus
is a condition
where the pelvic floor muscles, which are the
muscles that surround your *,
those muscles start contracting fear
or
worry
or
stress
or
anxiety
and that's
fear or worry or stress or anxiety,
and that's exactly what was happening for me.
Because I grew up with all of those
come and that feeling
caused my pelvic floor muscles to contract. And
when the pelvic floor muscles contract, what happens
is the * becomes really narrow
and that's the reason why it was impossible
for my husband's penis to pen for for
my husband's penis to penetrate my *, and
that's the reason why
* was so painful for me. So I
ordered those dilators because I knew that they
would be tools to help me practice
to help me practice getting my pelvic floor
muscles to be relaxed. Because if the pelvic
floor muscles are relaxed, the * is nice
and wide, and penetration is completely possible
and completely
pain free and completely comfortable.
So I would love to know why you're
here in this talk. Is it because you're
currently experiencing
painful *?
Is it because you you believe you might
have vaginismus?
Or is it because
you're currently,
able to have *,
but you're not really satisfied? I'd love to
know where you are right now. So is
it number 1 where you're simply experiencing painful
*? Is it number 2 where you believe
you might have vaginismus?
Or is it number 3 where you are
able to have *, but you're not feeling
very satisfied and you wanna become more and
more fearless in the
Okay.
Okay.
Anyone else? I know we have I think
is there 15 of us on here?
Okay. So Hava is saying sometimes 1, which
is painful *, but most of the time
3.
So that's the one where she's able to
have * but is not fully satisfied.
Sarah is saying I have been married for
7 years and still have painful * no
matter how my husband and me tries, and
it's never satisfying.
Okay.
13
says Raffia.
I'm here because I'm curious. Okay. Great. Abby,
could you let me know, are you married
or not married? Just so I know.
Okay. I believe Abby is saying that she's
married.
Okay. Aminah is saying,
subhanAllah, I never realized how common this was
until recently speaking to a friend.
It takes such courage to speak about this
so openly within the Muslim community.
Alhamdulillah.
Actually quite a lot of people tell me
that I have courage to speak about this,
but I feel like
I don't feel like that's the case for
me. And I'll say why because right now,
it feels like more of a duty. It
doesn't feel like I need to be
brave to share this. It feels like it's
something that
Allah is compelling me to do that I
I experienced that trial
many years ago, in fact. So I'm now
30. So I got married, as I said,
at 18, had my first wedding night experience
at 19. So it's been, like, 11 years
or so
since that experience.
I didn't talk about it for a long
time because I didn't know how to help
women in this way up until much more
recently where I where I I noticed so
many women saying that they have this condition,
vaginismus.
And so I felt it was my duty
to be able to help these women because
I went through it and, alhamdulillah, I overcame
it and it's now my duty to help
women
overcome it too.
So, Habiba is saying, I'm not married, and
I'm here to learn just in case. Perfect.
So, Habiba, could you let me know what
are your feelings around the wedding night, and
what are your feelings and thoughts about losing
your virginity?
I'll be saying, I think more sisters need
to talk about this openly without feeling shy.
Yes. Definitely.
And I I know that there are quite
a lot of,
women especially on Instagram that I've seen like
Village Auntie and a few others that are
talking about *.
But definitely I feel like what I'm talking
about is more specific in terms of if
you're suffering from painful *. Okay. So a
few of you said that you're experiencing number
1, which is the painful *. Now painful
* is obviously quite a broad term,
and it can be caused by
by almost anything.
So if you're experiencing that broad painful *
where you're not really sure what it's caused
by,
I would recommend going to see a gynecologist,
a female doctor because usually we're more comfortable
with a woman, speaking to a female doctor
about what you're experiencing just so that they
can rule out anything else, like an infection,
for example,
or, god forbid, a tumor. That needs to
be ruled out first of all. And obviously
I'm not a doctor but that is what
I would recommend if you're experiencing painful *
in general.
If the painful * is upon entry,
meaning as soon as your husband's penis goes
in and it's pretty painful then,
the most likely thing that you're going through
is vaginismus.
Because what I was describing in my situation,
when I tried to lose my virginity on
my wedding night, my husband's penis couldn't even
go in, not even like the tip. That
would be painful. So if you're experiencing painful
* where it's painful at the very beginning,
it's likely to be due to vaginismus because
as I was mentioning,
the pelvic floor muscles are contracting,
and they're causing the whole of the vaginal
canal to become really narrow. So it's pretty
impossible for the penis to go in. I
mean, maybe a little bit can go in,
like, at the tip or maybe a quarter
of it, but it gets more and more
painful as the penis tries to go in.
If, however, you're experiencing painful * once your
husband's penis is already in you, then that
could be different. It could be vaginismus if
you're kind of clenching up as he's inside
you or if you're experiencing painful * as
he's thrusting inside you meaning he's moving in
and out. That also could be something different
but it could be vaginismus.
So this would require talking to a specialist.
It could be me or any vaginismus specialist
and saying
describing exactly what your what your experience
is so that we can help you deduce
whether it's vaginismus
or whether it's a different cause.
Because if it is vaginismus,
it's very simple to overcome. I mentioned
using tools like dilators
and learning how to relax your pelvic floor
muscles.
If there's a different cause, we obviously need
to know what the cause is so that
we can then identify the solution.
Okay. So a few of you are saying
also that you're,
that you're number 3, meaning that you're not
you are able to have *
but not really satisfied.
So my question for those ladies and I'd
love for you to type it in the
chat,
do you engage in plenty of foreplay?
I would love to know the answer to
that.
So for the women who said that they
are number 3,
meaning that they can have *,
but they aren't finding it satisfying. Could you
let me know
if you are engaging in plenty of foreplay
beforehand?
So Habiba saying,
excitement, to be honest,
here, so I can definitely enjoy * because,
oh, so Javier, I think, was the one
that said she's not married but she's feeling
excitement. Right?
So I can definitely enjoy * because life
is too short to be having terrible or
painful * among all these other things happening
in the world. Absolutely. I completely agree. I
I think, you know, if we are going
to be married to someone, we need to
educate ourselves onto on how we can actually
enjoy *. I'm sure that village auntie preaches
about this on how we as women
need to empower ourselves and learn
actually what is it that turns me on?
What is it that I like in the
bedroom? How can I communicate with my husband
and get him to do the things that
I really want to do? And for us
to not be shy and to realize it's
a partnership with your husband,
That communication
is key
in every sense in in in every single
relationship and communicating what you want your husband
to do to you. It's about giving and
receiving. It's not about
you only pleasuring your husband or your husband
only pleasuring you. It needs to be that
two way street, definitely.
So Raffia said, I've seen consultant gynaecologists,
and I've been told that there are no
issues and just need to relax.
Yeah. I know. So sometimes, so I've had
a few clients that say similar things about
just relax. And sometimes saying that to a
client is easier said than done
if you especially if you don't know how
to relax.
One thing I do recommend to some of
my clients is spending time
before engaging in *, spending time on your
own.
And because as you'll hear, you're here in
the self care conference,
spending time on your own and figuring out
what is it that I wanna do for
myself right now. So something that I do
usually before I engage in * with my
husband is I decide what do I really
need right now.
Because if I don't do that, I end
up resenting my husband. I end up feeling
like I'm giving * to him
and that I'm not receiving anything back. And
so for me, personally, and I'm sure that
this will resonate with a lot of women
too. For me, personally, I need my emotional
cup filled. So what I tend to do
before engaging in * with my husband
is I I'll make sure the kids are
in bed, and I will just run a
nice warm bath with candles, with oils, and
I will just lay there for an hour.
And that is my me time. I'm filling
myself up, and then I feel a lot
more ready to then engage in * with
my husband. And I enjoy it more as
well Because if I don't do that, I'll
feel like I've been so busy during the
day with work and with kids and then
feel really frantic before engaging in * without
having that me time ends up in you
not really having a satisfying
experience.
Okay. So what else have we got here?
We've got let's make this bigger.
Okay. So Avi is saying she agrees with
Habiba.
Oh, yeah. So, Raffia was saying that she's
just been told that she needs to relax.
So is the gynecologist
saying that you need to relax so that
you,
don't have painful *? Because if that's what
the gynecologist is saying, really, what we need
to be taught is how. How do we
get our pelvic floor muscles to relax?
Because once we know how to get them
to relax,
then we won't experience painful * anymore.
I can see that
Habiba is saying, I follow village auntie. She's
so amazing. Yeah. I completely agree.
How about saying most of the time we
have foreplay?
Great. So foreplay is so important. Now foreplay
isn't the only way to ensure that you
are having satisfying *. It's also about
you deciding that you are going to make
your *
a priority
in every single
session that you have * with your husband.
So I'm gonna say that again.
Having a satisfying * life with your husband
is about you deciding
that your *
is a priority
in every single * session that you have
with your husband.
Because if you don't do that, you're not
going to want to have *. You'll come
up with excuses.
I'm tired.
Maybe later. That kind of thing. Whereas if
you know
that you are guaranteed
to * during the next time that you
have * with your husband,
you're going to want to do it. So
that's why I say it's so important to
prioritize
your *. Now some of you might be
thinking, okay. I don't know how to *
or it's very, very fleeting, meaning sometimes I
can *, sometimes I can't.
When it comes to *, it is definitely
about trial and error. I believe that each
one of us here, each woman here,
* in a different way. There is something
that might turn me on that won't turn
you on and vice versa.
So it's about you maybe spending time journaling.
What is it that turns me on? Is
it an it kind of also comes down
to your love language as well. So for
me, personally,
I love words words of affirmation. They really
turn me on. So if my husband is
saying certain things, that will turn me on.
It might be the same for you and
it might be different. Okay? So it's about
deciding and and trialing. What is it that
firstly turns me on before I even engage
in *? And what is it that continues
to get me in the mood when I'm
having * in the middle of all that
foreplay?
Okay.
Where did we go up to?
SubhanAllah. When my so this is and she's
saying, subhanAllah, when my periods were starting,
I had really bad period pains.
The doctors diagnosed that I didn't have the
path for the period to flow out, so
I had a little operation. So don't know
if that would have been,
so you said vaginitis
vaginatus?
I'm assuming you you mean vaginismus.
Okay. So if your period wasn't able to
flow out and you had to have a
little operation for your periods to flow out,
that could have led to vaginismus.
So vaginismus
can also be caused by some kind of
trauma or surgery.
It's usually known as secondary vaginismus.
It can even happen to women
after childbirth.
So a woman can have *,
get pregnant, and everything is fine. There was
no pain with * beforehand.
And then as soon as she gives birth
and, you know, after a period of time
when she is able to have * again,
she goes to have *
and realizes that it's now
so painful.
And that's usually known as secondary vaginismus,
perhaps due to trauma or the pain of
childbirth.
And so that would require reeducating and using
the dilators as therapy
to get your pelvic floor muscles to relax
again. So what you were mentioning about having
needing to have an operation
that could have have led to vaginismus. It
can lead to painful * definitely.
One thing I wanna mention before I continue
to,
read the the comments here is,
the operation that you're mentioning, I'm assuming,
is a hymenotomy.
A hymenotomy
is the removal of the hymen.
Now what I will say is that this
surgery is not really needed for most women
unless it's an extreme circumstance like like what
Zafrine was mentioning. She mentioned that her period
wasn't able to flow out
perhaps because the hymen was very, very thick
and rigid and didn't have any perforations or
holes in it and that's why the period
couldn't flow through. So in that instance, she
would need to have an hymenotomy.
However, in most women who have vaginismus,
meaning they have painful *,
many of them wrongly
assume that it's because of their hymen.
They wrongly assume that their hymen is still
intact and that their hymen is too rigid.
And so some doctors will say we need
to remove your hymen. And in 99%
of the cases, actually, the hymen doesn't need
to be removed
because
the hymen
is not the cause of vaginismus.
What I learned in my in the work
that I do is that the hymen actually
is a very, very thin
stretchy membrane that all girls are born with.
And as a baby girl grows up and
becomes, a teenager and then a young and
then a young adult, that hymen over time
becomes more and more stretchy
and actually starts to break and wear away
naturally over the course of time. And for
many girls, especially if girls are quite active
doing any kind of sport, it doesn't have
to be just horse riding. It could be
any sport. The hymen can actually just completely
break
for any any girl even though she's a
virgin.
And so what the reason I'm saying this
is because it will usually go unnoticed. The
girl won't even realize that her hymen is
broken
because
the hymen itself
doesn't cause any pain. So most this is
what I heard when I was growing up.
Most people assume
that the pain that a virgin experiences
when she has * for the first time,
they assume that it's because of the hymen
breaking.
The reality is
the hymen
the hymen itself is a very thin membrane
and it has
hardly any nerve endings,
or it might have none at all. It
might have no nerve endings.
And what that means is the pain doesn't
actually come from the hymen.
When a virgin loses her virginity
and if she experiences pain, it's actually because
of the pelvic floor muscles.
Naturally, a virgin who's about to lose her
virginity,
she's feeling a bit anxious and worried. And
so like I mentioned earlier, if you're having
that anxiety and that stress and worry,
your pelvic floor muscles will contract
subconsciously.
You won't even realize that it's happened. And
if the pelvic floor muscles are contracted,
the * is gonna be very narrow and
penetration is gonna be very, very
painful or impossible.
So that is the pain that a virgin
is going through. And so another thing that
I do is I love to educate
non married women on how they can actually
lose their virginity
in a completely painless way. And essentially, it's
the same work that you need to do
to overcome vaginismus.
So as I mentioned, to overcome vaginismus,
I do recommend doing what I call insertion
exercises.
It's practice exercises where you insert different sizes
of dilators.
It's you just practicing how to insert something
into your own * a bit like a
woman inserting a tampon when she has her
period.
So practicing with these dilators so that you
know for yourself
that there is no pain there. You know
for yourself that you can do it once
you know how to do a reverse kegel
exercise. And you can go and search it
online, search how to do reverse kegel exercises.
So kegel.
Reverse kegel exercises essentially teach you how to
relax the pelvic floor muscles
so that you can insert a tampon or
a dilator really easily. And if you can
insert a tampon or a dilator easily you
can also do the same thing with your
husband's penis. So for non married women
who are in child love one day to
be married, if you want to have
a a pleasant
experience on your wedding night where there is
no pain, where you're not feeling any worry
or stress, in fact, you're feeling really confident,
I highly recommend that you spend time learning
how to do reverse kegel exercises
and spend time learning how to insert something.
If you don't wanna go and buy dilators,
just go and buy a pack of tampons
and practice with them because the process of
insertion is the same. To insert a tampon
into your *
requires the same process
as inserting your husband's penis. It literally requires
you learning how to do reverse kegel exercises,
relaxing
your pelvic floor muscles.
And that same thing applies to learning how
to overcome
painful * if you've ruled out infection
or vaginismus if you know that you have
it.
Okay. Let's see what else we have in
the chat.
So,
Zohra is saying, to be honest, lots of
doctors don't even know what vaginismus
is.
And if you talk to them about it,
they'll be like, no. There is no way
that you have that, or they don't even
know what you're talking about. Yeah. Absolutely right,
Zuora. That's true. It's very unfortunate.
I don't believe that there is much training
provided to doctors about vaginismus.
So that's, I think, why I had to
step up to this role because I personally
chose not to speak to a doctor about
it. I self diagnosed myself,
when I just when I realized that I
had fagunismus, and I treated myself. I didn't
go to the doctor for treatment. I ordered
the dilators myself and spent time
and
and his penis was able to go in
me for the very first time, and there
was zero pain.
And that that was essentially the time I
really fully lost my virginity to him. And
so when when I when I noticed that
there was no pain,
I was like, why was I worried so
much? There is no pain.
And so I realized that
if a woman
is going around and saying, I've had *
for the first time and it was horrific.
It was so painful.
The reason it was so painful for her
it's true for her. It's valid for her
in her reality.
The reason it was so painful for her
was because, unfortunately,
she didn't have the education that we're learning
now. She maybe didn't know much about her
pelvic floor muscles and how she needed to
practice getting them relaxed. And the great thing
about
having vaginismus or having painful * is that
most of the time,
we can empower ourselves to overcome it. I
speak to a lot of my clients, and
I say that
having the condition vaginismus
is not like having cancer.
If someone has cancer, god forbid,
a lot of things are not in your
control. Yes. You can improve your diet and
take your medications
and all of that, but there are still
other factors out of outside of your control,
mostly in Allah's control where you don't know
if you're going to overcome the cancer.
Whereas with something like vaginismus
it's literally fully in the woman's control subhanAllah.
In order for you to overcome vaginismus
and overcome painful *, if it's not caused
by something like a tumor or,
an infection,
in order to overcome vaginismus, it's literally about
going within within yourself. It's about
reframing the thoughts that you're having about *,
changing those thoughts to be positive ones Instead
of inheriting
stories and thoughts from other people about *,
which we tend to do, we inherit the
stories from our parents about * or our
friends about * or from the media or
TV.
We inherit all those negative stories about *
and those negative stories
create the negative feelings of stress, worry, anxiety,
fear.
We can choose like just like we chose
to inherit those thoughts, we can choose to
disregard those thoughts because they're not serving us
and choose to inherit
positive thoughts about * especially if we are
doing them in alignment with the way Allah
wants us to have * with our husband
because I'm sure you all agree and all
know that having * is abuse. It should
be a beautiful experience.
Allah created it for pleasure between the spouses
and it's,
Allah didn't design it to be a painful
experience
or
an experience that you dread. He designed it
where you actually enjoy it more and more
and you learn about your spouse at the
same time.
Okay. So let's continue reading through the comments.
Zora is saying also a lot of women
don't satisfy
penetrative * and need clitoral stimulation.
Absolutely. So that was a point that I
was gonna come to, so I'll talk about
it now, is
there there are several ways for women to
experience *.
It could be through manual stimulation.
It could be through the husband regularly stimulating
the clitoris as Zora's mentioning.
Actually, most women don't
experience * during *.
It tends to require
a lot of trial and error. So for
me, personally,
I've learned exactly what my body wants
when my husband is penetrating me, exactly
what motions I need to do, what movements
I need to do,
how I need to rhythmically contract my own
pelvic floor muscles
once he is inside me. Because one when
I rhythmically contract my own pelvic floor muscles
when he's inside me, that leads me to
have an *.
So it is about you learning what is
the rhythm that you need to do to
experience * during *.
And if you're not able to have an
* during *,
don't let that session end. Don't let your
husband go away satisfied
if you haven't experienced *.
Communicate with him in that moment and say,
I haven't had an *. This is what
I want you to do. And go back
to that trial and error. What exactly is
it? Have you ever experienced an * in
the past? What was it that allowed you
to achieve an * and go back and
try that again? Because it could be that
that is exactly what he needs to go
and do again.
Yes. Well, absolutely, Naomi. I see at the
bottom, you said, ladies, come first. That's actually
really important. I know that you might be
giggling about that, but, actually, it is really
important for the woman to * first. And
if you don't * first, it's not the
end of the world. Let's say your husband
does * first. Don't allow that session to
end there.
Demand your right to have an *. So
say, I haven't had an *. This is
what I want you to do to get
me to *.
Okay? But, yes, definitely. If you are able
to * first, if you're able to come
first,
that makes things a lot better because he
can then continue
to achieve his * if you've already
come first. So the way I describe it
is if your if if your husband is
penetrating you
and you feel that you're
about to * but you're not yet ready
and he is definitely ready to *,
tell him to come out of you. Tell
him I'm not ready to *.
Tell him to go back and do a
bit more foreplay, do a little bit more
manual stimulation
until you're right at the point where you're
about to *.
And then you can tell him to go
back inside you and try then. And you
might come at the same time. You might
come before him, but I do recommend definitely
that you * first as much as possible.
If you can't, like I said,
if he if he comes before you, go
back and claim your right demand. You're right
and say, this is what I want you
to do so that I can * too.
Okay. So we've got Rafiya saying, yes. That's
what I say. Well, that's what they say.
Sorry. I find that if I haven't had
* in a week or 2, then it
becomes really tight and painful for entry and
painful during it. Okay. So, yeah, sometimes if
you haven't had * for a week or
2, it can become tight but not for
the reasons that you might think.
Because in actual fact, if you think about
your menstrual cycle,
you may or may not know that there
are actually 4 different phases that occur
during the menstrual cycle. Most of us know
of the period part, the bit where we
see the blood, but that's only one part.
That's the menstrual phase. There are other phases,
the luteal phase, the follicular phase, and the
ovulatory phase.
And usually,
during the ovulatory phase,
naturally,
our * is usually at that time,
it's usually longer and wider,
and it's usually more naturally lubricated from the
inside.
And so during the ovulatory
phase, it's usually,
about day 14 of your cycle, roughly.
Meaning if you had your period today, day
1,
14 days later, roughly, would be your ovulatory
phase, and it usually lasts about 3 to
5 days. It varies from woman to woman.
So at that
point, that tends to be the time when
* is the least painful.
It's the most comfortable. It's usually the most
pleasurable.
Women tend to be more * at that
time and more in the mood for *.
So the other phases
you need to work out. So I mentioned
the luteal phase and follicular phase. There are
apps and things that you can download to
work out which phase you're in.
In the others in some of the other
phases, we tend to be less lubricated naturally.
And so if you realize that,
* is a bit more painful for you,
especially if you've had a little bit of
a break for a week or 2 from
*. What I would recommend in those instances
is using something like lubrication.
It could be an artificial lubricant, or it
could be something that most of us probably
have in our homes, a natural lubricant like
coconut oil. And a lot of women actually
that I've spoken to say that they do
really like the coconut oil because there isn't
any irritation when they use it. Sometimes when
you use an artificial lubricant,
it can produce a little bit of irritation.
So go ahead and use something like coconut
oil, Apply it to his penis and apply
it to the outside of your *,
and that should make it a lot more
comfortable and less painful.
Where are we up to?
I can't find my where was
oh, yeah. So Zafrain is saying, oh gosh.
I wouldn't I wouldn't think like that. It's
true. I don't enjoy * at all
because it's just same old stuff. You're making
me laugh so much in a nice way.
Vaginous is new word. Yeah. A lot of
people are saying that it's a new word,
and it's just great to know even if
you don't have it. It's great to know
what vaginism is because
you might be talking to one of your
friends, you know, maybe newly married or about
to get married. And if they're describing that
they have a fear of * or if
they're describing that they tried to have *
because they're now married and they can't and
it's too painful, you can say I know
what this condition is. It's it's probably vaginismus
and then they can then take it into
their own hands
and empower themselves to learn more about it.
Okay.
Habiba is saying,
read
read the old is it read or read
read the old of a virgin? Oh, read
that the older a virgin woman is, the
less likely it is for there to be
any bleeding.
Is this true? I don't believe so. I
don't think it has anything to do with
age.
Bleeding actually
shouldn't really occur in a virgin woman. And
if it does, it should be very minimal.
I know there are certain cultures where they
expect there to be a lot of blood
in order to prove that the bride was
or is a virgin.
I believe it's completely ridiculous. In as I
mentioned,
in most girls, as they grow from being
a young girl into a teenager
and then a young adult,
in most girls, the high men,
kind of disintegrates
over time due to any kind of activity.
And so
that might have led to small amounts of
blood that maybe the girl didn't even pay
attention to or realize that it happened.
And so if there is a lot of
bleeding
when a woman loses her virginity,
it's not because of the hymen or anything.
It's probably because
she was nervous.
She was afraid to lose her virginity. And
as the husband is penetrating and thrusting,
the the friction of his penis
against the tight * because and it's tight
because of the pelvic floor muscles contracting,
that rough penetration,
or
probably he entered quite sharply and forcefully,
that would have led to the bleeding,
not because of the hymen and definitely doesn't
have anything to do
with the older a virgin woman is, the
less likely for there to be bleeding.
I don't think that that is true.
I could be wrong, but I don't think
that's correct.
Okay. RB is saying in school,
many years ago, we were taught that the
hymen
usually breaks by the age of 8 due
to being active, etcetera.
Yep. Yep. Exactly. It does. It usually breaks.
It kind of becomes more stretchy over time,
and it definitely forms perforations.
Actually, one thing I also talk about with
my clients is if you ever have had
a period,
you know for sure that your hymen is
not intact.
There may still be remnants of the hymen
inside your * if you're a virgin, but
you know at least there's definitely perforations. It's
definitely stretchy
because in order for the period blood to
come through your *,
the hymen shouldn't really be intact. There should
be some perforations and holes in it
in order for the period blood to come
to go through. So if you have had
a period, you know that your hymen is
not an issue in terms of when you
lose your virginity.
So
when you're not married, I strongly recommend that
you educate yourselves before you get married in
the future
about
how to do reverse kegel exercises, learning how
to relax your pelvic floor muscles, and even
spending time learning how to insert something, whether
it be a tampon or whether it be
dilators.
Another thing I wanna mention on that note
is some women are afraid to do those
insertion exercises
before getting married because they feel like they
are losing their virginity before they're even married.
My definition of losing your virginity
is when a man's penis enters your *
for the first time. I don't know what
your definition is, but I'm sure that we
can agree, hopefully,
that in order for a woman
to lose her virginity,
a man's penis needs to penetrate her *.
If you are inserting a tampon,
you you haven't broken your virginity or lost
your virginity.
If you're inserting something like a dilator, which
is pretty similar to a tampon,
again, you're not losing your virginity.
I like to think of it as practice.
I use the analogy of
running a marathon for the first time, and
we know that running a marathon is pretty
hardcore.
And so if I said that you are
going to run a marathon
in 6 months time for the very first
time, you've never run a marathon before and
in 6 months time you have to run
a marathon,
would you allow those 6 months to just
pass and not practice anything and wait until
the day and just go and aim for
it and try and run the marathon?
Because just imagine if you try to do
that,
you probably wouldn't be able to complete it,
and it would be very, very painful.
And that's the same with *.
If you know that you're going to get
married or you currently are married, if you
know that you're about to have * for
the first time in 6 months time because
you're gonna get married or in a year's
time, are you just gonna allow those 6
months or a year to go by without
practicing anything first? And that's the reason why
I think many women
have painful * for the first time because
they didn't do
the practice. And the practice is actually twofold.
It does require
a lot of mental training,
identifying what thoughts you have about *
that are not serving you, and also there
is physical training. Like I said,
learning how to do the re the reverse
kegels,
learning how to relax the pelvic floor muscles,
and learning how to do the physical training
in terms of learning how to actually insert
something into your *. Because what I will
tell you is when I first started using
the dilators,
the first time I inserted it into my
in the first time I inserted something into
my *,
I was like, wow. This feels so weird.
That's all that I felt. I was like,
so strange
because most women,
as virgins have never experienced
something inside them. So it really should just
feel a little bit strange, a little bit
weird, but there shouldn't be any
pain involved.
Okay. So, have oh, we've got RB replying
to Habiba saying * usually becomes painful after
menopause
due to a lack of natural vaginal lubrication
due to reduced estrogen. Yes. Abs absolutely.
So in that case, if if a woman
I don't know if any women on here
are,
menopausal or postmenopausal, but in that case, definitely,
what's usually recommended
is to increase the amount of lubrication that
you use.
What have we got? Just moving down there.
So Zora is saying, I think * are
more mental rather than anything else. Yes.
You've hit the nail on the head. I
think for us as women, it definitely is.
If my if I had a really busy,
frantic day and if I didn't do that
time where I had my own kind of
me time before having * with my husband,
I think all of my thoughts would be
racing
in my head, and I wouldn't be able
to focus on achieving an *.
So definitely is a lot more mental. It
is about what you're thinking about.
I this is gonna sound this might sound
really strange, but I'm going to be really,
really authentic and honest with you.
I, as I mentioned, I really like it
when my husband speaks to me during *.
I don't know what other men are like,
but personally, my husband doesn't really like to
talk during * even though I've told him
I would really like it if you would
talk to me during *.
And so sometimes I need to just if
I want to * because I I've chosen
now to prioritize * during each session that
I have * with my husband,
I start thinking in my head
about things that he's saying to me, and
that just turns me on. And it seems
to work for me. So I definitely think
it is a more mental, emotional thing,
and it's about you trying to identify what
is it that turns you on, what is
it that will get you to achieve an
*.
What have we got here?
Raffia is saying
using a coil, so no periods.
Okay.
So,
I'm assuming you're saying that maybe because you're
not sure about
is that because I mentioned about,
having your hymen not being taxed? If you
could let me know what that's referring to,
Raffia, or if you have a question around
that, let me know.
I'll be saying, remember, ladies, we we women
have,
the ability to multiorgasm.
There is a hadith that states that women
have the ability to enjoy
passion longer.
Yeah. Definitely.
And Armanet is saying, are there any particular
dilators that you recommend? No. Any dilators will
do. I use some plastic ones, but right
now on the market, there are so many
different types.
Some of my clients prefer to use silicone
ones because they say they're more comfortable.
Having said that, many
of my clients still use just regular plastic
ones like I did. So, no, I don't
recommend
any particular brands. What I do recommend is
that they come in a set of at
least 4. That tends to work. You can
get a set of 5 or 6 as
well.
Where was I? Rafia is saying referring
to the period cycles you mentioned. Oh, right.
Okay. So if you're on if you're on
the coil and therefore you don't have a
period,
you still have those
phases occurring in you. You still have a
menstrual cycle even though you don't have the
period blood, the menstrual phase, which is where
the blood comes out. In that instance, what
I do recommend is,
doing a little bit of research and,
finding out how you can figure
out when you are in the ovulatory phase,
when you are in the luteal phase, and
the follicular phase. Like I said, there are
some apps that will help you with that.
One that comes to mind is an app
called InTheflow.
So it's FLO. So In The Flow, that's
one app that comes to mind so that
might be able to help you with that.
Fahir is saying describe the * experience.
Never had an * during *. Perfect. That's
a great question.
And, actually, a lot of my clients have
asked me similar ones where they don't know
if they've achieved an * because they've never
felt it before. So this is how I
will describe it to you from my own
personal experience. And if any of you ladies
have experienced an *, I'd love it if
you could describe your experience too.
So for me personally,
as one of the other sisters was mentioning
about
how achieving an * is very much a
mental experience.
For me, personally, it starts off with how
I'm feeling and what I'm thinking about before
engaging in full play with my husband, before
I start kissing and touching with my husband.
Where are my thoughts at? Am I really
focused and present in the moment?
Once I'm there and I'm then enjoying the
full play,
I kind of just allow my mind to
just
imagine
that I am this extremely sexy woman. And
sometimes for us as women, it's hard to
imagine that. But if I don't do that,
I will tend to focus on all my
flaws, the flaws that I think I have,
the cellulite on my thighs,
the my belly fat. That's where my mind
will usually tend to go. And so if
I do that, I know that I won't
get I won't I I won't achieve an
* if I'm focusing on my cellulite or
my belly fat. And so what I know
that I have to consciously do is in
that moment I have to choose that I
am this sexy woman. And obviously in the
eyes of my husband I am, but I
have to believe it for myself. And I
also have to believe that in that moment,
me being naked there or in my lingerie,
whatever,
in that moment,
Allah also
has told me that in that moment I
am sexy. And the reason I say that
is because we all know that as women,
we are told to cover up certain parts
of our body because if we don't do
that these there are certain areas of our
body, if we are naked, that are naturally
sexually appealing to the opposite *.
So Allah has instructed us to cover up
certain areas of our body
with full knowledge that if the opposite *
were to see us with those parts revealed
they would be naturally sexually appealed and attracted
to us.
Allah doesn't say
that
only cover up if you have really thin
thighs or only cover up if you have
a flat belly
or only cover up if you have big
perky *. Allah has never instructed us to
do that. He instructs us as women to
cover up
regardless
of what our body size and shape
looks like. That means that Allah believes that
we are naturally sexually appealing
and Allah created us naturally sexually appealing.
So we have to choose what are we
gonna believe.
Are we gonna believe what Allah is telling
us,
or are we gonna believe what society is
telling us? Because society has said
that a certain body size and shape is
sexy and anything else is not. That's what
society is telling us, and society is made
up of people. Are we just gonna believe
what people are telling us or are we
gonna believe what Allah is telling us? So
in that moment, I have to choose to
believe that I am sexy and because if
I believe I'm sexy, I can get in
the mood.
And so that's where the * starts. It's
believing you're sexy, making sure you're in the
right mental state, making sure you spent time
doing your own self care,
and then
really enjoy the full play with your husband.
Really enjoy
that moment of intimacy with your husband. Enjoy
the kissing.
Enjoy the touching. Enjoy the giving and receiving,
and allow it to build up. So for
most women,
the first kiss, the first touch
isn't really what is gonna turn you on.
It needs to be continuous.
The kissing, the touching, the hugging, the caressing
needs to be continuous. And as as it
continues,
you end up getting more and more in
the mood for it. The your level of
horniness,
the only word that came to mind,
increases
as you engage in more and more foreplay
with your husband.
And so what it comes to is all
of that kind of comes to this culmination
of feeling really breathless, really excited,
really,
like, intrigued, and almost like you can't wait.
You can't wait to release it. All of
that kind of excitement builds up, and you
really can't wait to release it. And when
you get to that point,
it's the point where you're kind of about
to climax,
about to * if your husband continues to
satisfy you and continues to stimulate you in
that way. And so if he does continue
to stimulate you, one * feels like is
as though all of those feelings and that
kind of sexual tension
has been released. And what you will feel
is a really deep
satisfaction.
That's what it should feel like. A really
deep kind of bliss as well. Like, it
feels really amazing,
almost like you really wanna have this big
beam or smile on you. So it's like
the sexual tension has been released. It feels
really blissful and pleasurable.
That's when you know that you've had an
*, especially
if you're feeling really satisfied
and feeling like you don't need to continue
anymore, that you don't need to have *
anymore.
That's how you would know that you've had
an *. Okay? Some women do also release
fluid as well when they have an *,
so that can be another way to know.
I hope that answers your question.
Okay. So there, we've got another sister saying
there is a tool
that a company sells different than dilators, but
does the same thing. Maybe some sisters will
be curious or want to try it, ohnuts.co.
Rings are inserted in the penis that act
almost like a barrier. Not really a barrier,
but they sort of make you more comfortable.
Yeah. I heard of. So, yeah,
this is just right. The rings that you
insert on the penis,
there are, I think, different like, there are
different numbers of rings. You can insert 1
or 2, I think, and it just kind
of
prevents your husband's penis from going too deeply
inside you to make the * a bit
more comfortable.
Because for some women, their their experience of
painful * is due to the thrusting and
his penis going too deep inside your *.
So
what the sister's mentioning about the company, o
knot dotco, that might be helpful for certain
women.
This is so helpful, Marshall. In my hand
husband's eyes, I'm I'm miss wonderful. Absolutely.
But I feel permanently
modest. Even now I have 3 children.
Yeah.
So I think modesty definitely is important,
you know, when you're not around your husband.
But when you're with your husband,
you wanna kind of let go. And
it's kind of, how do I describe this?
It's kind of like
you are this gift, you are this blessing
to your husband, which is what you are.
And it's about you deciding that
your husband deserves to see this gift, to
see this blessing
as much as you deserve to see him.
And so
really also it's it comes down to you
deciding
that you are worthy
of having an amazing * life.
You are it's, like, commonly
depicted as, you know, usually it's the man
that always initiates having *, which can happen,
or usually the man has a higher libido
than the woman. But what really should be
happening happening is more of a balance
in terms of where
you
loved the last time that you had *
with your husband so much that you really
can't wait for the next one. And that
will in fact increase your libido. Your desire
for for for * will increase
if the last time you had * was
amazing. If the last time you had *
was one where you had this amazing *,
you're going to want to have it again.
Whereas if your * life right now is
mediocre or not really satisfying,
your libido is probably gonna go down because
there's nothing special about it.
So really that's why I say it's so
important for us women
to prioritize having an * during every time
that you have * with your husband.
We've got another sister saying, I get a
rush of blood to my head during *.
Yeah. Perfect. So it kind of is that
thing I was describing of, like, feeling really
blissful
and, like,
your mind isn't anywhere else in that moment.
When you're having an *,
you're not thinking about your to do list.
You're not thinking about your children. You're not
thinking about work the next day. You're literally
just in that moment
allowing yourself to experience
experience the pleasure and and bliss.
So yeah. Definitely.
Another sister saying, me too. Like electricity in
my head and my ears gets, like, dull
Inside of my *, my muscle is pumping.
Yeah. Definitely. It's that rhythmic contraction
of the pelvic floor muscles surrounding the *.
You're very welcome. So we've got thank you
so much. It was very helpful.
And the sister's giving you you the website
for onot.co.
Oh, because she sent it to panelists only,
so she's providing it for everyone now.
Another sister describing how she has an *.
So for me, it's an immense surge of
energy that travels up and around my body.
I can feel pleasurable contractions which subside slowly.
I then feel completely calm, absolutely good. So
that feeling of having the * and it's
kind of all that culmination
of excitement and bliss,
And then you feel really calm and satisfied.
Like, you don't need you don't need any
further caressing or stimulation. You just feel like
you can just relax and melt into the
bed type of thing.
Is there food that helps boost *? Yeah.
There are certain foods.
They're known as aphrodisiacs.
I I believe that chocolate is one of
them. I think oysters is another.
On the note of foods that help boost
*, one thing I do wanna mention, which
I believe,
sister Idil talked about during her talk, is
about nutrition.
And the reason why it's I mean, it's
so great that there were so many different
talks during the conference, but the reason why
I'm bringing up nutrition is because you mentioned
food,
and how food is related to *. I
believe they are so
related and interconnected.
When we improve our nutrition,
our libido will
Okay.
When you are in when you improve your
nutrition,
you are feeding yourself all this amazing good
stuff. So you feel good on the inside.
And when we feel good on the inside,
we're gonna feel good on the outside too.
Also, things like if you have poor body
image or poor self esteem,
when you improve your nutrition,
that nutrition is is chemistry in your body,
and that chemistry is sending signals to your
brain. And then you are going to by
changing your nutrition,
you are essentially reframing the thoughts in your
brain. And you're gonna start to think differently
about yourself and your self worth
and deciding that I'm worthy of eating amazing
healthy food, and I'm worthy of having this
amazing * life, and they are very much
interrelated and interconnected.
Because I know for myself,
if I don't eat very healthily and I'm
feeling really, really bloated because I've eaten I've
eaten quite a lot of junk food that
day, for example, or I've eaten a lot
of food that has foods that I am
pretty sensitive to. If If I eat those
foods and I am feeling bloated, then I'm
not gonna wanna have *. Or if I
do have * when I'm feeling bloated like
that, it's not gonna be that satisfying. And
I'm probably gonna be concentrating
on the feelings of bloatedness
rather than concentrating on how good I feel.
And so by eating really good nutrition in
general,
it's gonna help you to have a better
* life, and it's gonna help you in
terms of your libido.
One sister's meant mentioning ginseng tea.
Intimacy is supposed to be a taste of
Jenna. I love that. I really feel that
it is. If you've experienced an amazing *,
you'd you'd know how amazing it is. And
so if it is a taste of Jenna,
wow. Just imagine what Jenna is like. Like,
if if
if having an * is bliss on earth
and that's just a portion of what it
will be like in gender, We can only
just imagine
how much bliss there will be in Jannah
for all of us.
Thank you. Very educative. Thank you, sister.
Another sister saying hibiscus tea. I found out
recently that it's given to brides as a
gift. Okay. Great.
Really helpful. I took a lot of notes
with Yerke.
Anything else? I think I mean, I finished,
you know, what I wanted to talk about
in terms of, you know, my experience and
what vaginismus is and how we can kind
of,
improve our * lives. Is there anything else,
sisters,
that you want me to talk about?
It's been so fun, so so amazing to
be able to talk to all of you
ladies about this.
Thank you so much, Abira.
I just really like your
really frank,
straightforward
way of just talking about it. You know,
it really just reminds me that this is
just knowledge.
And you know how so many times when
we talk about * and, you know, even
just bodily functions,
there is so much kind of
shame and tittering kind of energy behind it.
But you just broke it down for us
literally literally like a science lesson.
This is what it is. It's like that.
This is what you need to do, and
this is what happens if this happens. And
I'm sure the sisters really appreciated your just
super down to earth approach.
And, yeah, guys, you know, make sure that
you do connect with, sister Amira on Instagram.
You know, if you if you need her
help, no shame in your game. Get in
touch. Send Send her a DM.
Did you have something to offer the sisters?
Was there, like, a webinar or an ebook
that you've offered them already? Yeah. So any
sisters, if you are struggling with vaginismus or
painful *, I do have a free 90
minute training.
The link for that is in my bio,
so you can definitely check that out. I'm
on Instagram.
So, yeah, definitely check it out.
Alternatively, if you don't wanna watch the free
training and you just wanna ask me some
questions
and see potentially if we can work together
to help you overcome your vaginismus
or overcome painful * or if you're not
married, how I can help you to,
you know, look forward to your wedding night
and how you can lose your virginity in
a painless way. Just send me a message
on Instagram too. I'm happy to have a
little chat. And when you message her, just
ask her, oh, sis, have you written a
book by any chance? Is there anything that
I can read?
I hope so. I hope so soon. It's
on pause at the moment, but it's definitely
not it's not, like, lost my like, it's
not lost from my mind. It's still there.
Well, it's sooner
than later. Definitely. Yes. And it's been a
pleasure working with you, Naima, and your team
on on getting it started.
I still have the draft. I need to
work on it. And, inshallah, it'll be ready
for everyone's time.
Time. Oh, everything in the best time.
So listen, ladies, if you have any more
questions, you can always send us, Tamira, a
DM.
And,
you know, inshallah,
she will answer any of your questions there.
But for now,
I just would like to invite you all
just to take a deep breath together, a
big nice one.
We're gonna exhale
and just give yourselves a hug and a
pat on the back because you have been
absolutely
amazing. I know some of you have literally
been for every session since Friday.
I wanna acknowledge you. I want to honor
you, and may Allah love you, and may
Allah bless you and your families. It's been
absolutely amazing.
And, hey, what can I say? Let's do
it again.
Those of you, if you haven't got a
ticket for the Black Muslim Festival, grab that
ticket. Come and join us, and I'll see
you at some of our sessions next month.
If not, keep a lookout for the next
virtual salon sister session.
I'm not sure yet what we're going to
be looking at next.
We might actually ask you guys to give
us some suggestions for you want us to
cover in our next sister's session. But for
now, I bid you good night, farewell, and
may Allah bless you all. I'm so pleased
that it was beneficial for you.