Naima B. Robert – My Story of Coming to Islam

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A man named Naima B. Robert discusses how he became a Muslim after realizing he wanted to be himself and be himself again. He also talks about how it made him feel better and better after realizing he wanted to be himself and be himself again. The speaker discusses the struggles of becoming a Muslim and losing everything, and how it can be difficult to change one's views and actions. They also talk about how writing books about Muslims has been a breakthrough for them, and how writing experiences and intentions have made them feel insecure and unworthy. The speaker advises them to make their intentions clear and to make the first step before moving forward.

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			My name is Naima B. Robert, and I've
		
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			been Muslim for 18 years.
		
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			Well, I grew up in Zimbabwe,
		
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			and I grew up in a non religious
		
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			household.
		
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			I grew up really not believing in God,
		
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			until I got to my late teens,
		
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			And I started to think there must be
		
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			there must be a higher power. There must
		
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			be something out there that's looking out for
		
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			me, that knows me better than I know
		
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			myself.
		
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			I was introduced to church, went, a couple
		
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			of times.
		
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			But for me,
		
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			the fact that they told me to believe
		
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			without any proof or without being able to
		
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			convince me,
		
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			meant that I couldn't commit to it. So
		
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			I didn't go back again.
		
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			And it was only when I went to
		
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			the UK and I was at university,
		
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			and in my 1st year of university, I
		
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			went to Egypt for a festival.
		
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			And in Egypt, I, for the first time
		
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			it seemed, noticed these women wearing hijab.
		
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			And
		
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			I was not impressed
		
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			at all.
		
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			As far as I was concerned, they were
		
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			oppressed, they were repressed,
		
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			And I raged about it for a good
		
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			2 days before I actually asked somebody,
		
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			why do you cover?
		
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			And
		
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			I think
		
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			that was what, you know, people would call
		
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			my my my light bulb moment or what
		
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			Oprah would call my moment,
		
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			was when she said to me, because I
		
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			want to be judged for what I say
		
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			and what I do, not what I look
		
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			like.
		
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			For me, that was just like,
		
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			woah.
		
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			Wait a minute.
		
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			Where did you get that idea from?
		
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			And I started to think,
		
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			what is this Islam that makes this woman
		
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			so strong,
		
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			so confident, so sure of herself? That she
		
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			doesn't need to do what millions of women
		
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			do everyday, which is put themselves out there
		
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			to be assessed, to be accepted, to be
		
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			admired.
		
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			And I wanted to find out more. And
		
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			really, that was my introduction to Islam. I
		
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			started to ask questions. I started to read.
		
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			You know, I I started to mix more
		
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			with Muslims and I actually went on a
		
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			journey of discovery, which I, you know, I
		
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			I talk about in my book from My
		
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			Sister's List.
		
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			I think everybody faces different challenges when they
		
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			accept Islam, depending on where they're coming from,
		
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			depending on, you know, who they become Muslim
		
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			around, what kind of community they come into.
		
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			I was very fortunate because I became Muslim
		
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			at a time when at university,
		
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			it's like it was like everybody was becoming
		
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			Muslim. Like, everybody was either starting to practice
		
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			or was becoming Muslim. So we had, like,
		
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			a whole big group of us who were
		
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			on this dean high.
		
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			And we go to the masajid and we
		
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			go for the taraweeh prayers and we, you
		
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			know, cook iftar for each other and it
		
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			was Masha'Allah, it was really amazing. We were
		
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			in this sort of new Muslim bubble.
		
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			I think some of the hardest challenges would
		
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			be things that you're just used to from
		
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			Jahiliya. You know, things like maybe for some
		
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			people's address code, for me it wasn't so
		
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			much because I actually chose to start covering,
		
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			start covering my hair and then just, you
		
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			know, as my iman grew and my knowledge
		
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			grew, I just covered more and more.
		
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			But, you know, so maybe friends from the
		
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			past that you were close to, that you
		
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			realize were not really helping you and your
		
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			din anymore.
		
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			Guy friends,
		
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			definitely, if you had close guy friends, you
		
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			know, that was a difficult
		
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			that was a difficult transition. And it wasn't
		
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			as difficult for for me or for the
		
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			person who's becoming Muslim. It was difficult for
		
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			them as well, for them to understand
		
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			that it's not personal. Something that I need
		
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			to do because of my religion. And of
		
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			course, you know, the reactions of family when
		
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			they thought that basically I'd just gone mad.
		
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			And,
		
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			you know,
		
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			I think that idea of
		
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			you used to be
		
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			You used to be so much fun. You
		
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			used to be so cool. You used to
		
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			be so clever. You used to be so
		
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			ambitious. You used to be. You used to
		
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			be. You used to be and then you
		
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			became Muslim
		
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			and it was like for a lot of
		
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			people
		
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			You were all these amazing things, then you
		
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			became Muslim, and now there's nothing. There's just
		
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			you Muslim.
		
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			You know you're not with us anymore. You're
		
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			not fun, you know, you're not contributing, you
		
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			you've just opted out, basically, of life.
		
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			I think for me that was a that
		
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			was a big concern for me if I
		
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			remember the poetry that I used to write
		
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			when I first became Muslim.
		
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			This idea of
		
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			I still want to be myself,
		
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			you know. I I I've spent 18 years,
		
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			19 years, 20 years being me.
		
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			I want to be Muslim
		
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			and be myself and be me still.
		
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			And that kind of struggle of the nafs,
		
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			I guess, that jihad and nafs that you
		
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			have between balancing who you are and what
		
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			Allah Subhanahu Wa Ta'ala expects from us.
		
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			That jihad is hard enough.
		
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			When you add the jihad that you have
		
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			between yourself and your nafs, and what Allah
		
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			wants from us, and then what other people
		
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			expect from you, whether they're Muslim or non
		
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			Muslim. It can become a real time of
		
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			turmoil and conflict, and it can be really
		
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			difficult. SubhanAllah. But, Alhamdulillah, you know, you make
		
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			your way through. And I think most of
		
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			us go through a journey of self discovery
		
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			even within Islam,
		
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			where
		
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			you maybe
		
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			became Muslim,
		
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			shut out everything from your previous life because
		
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			you wanted to do the right thing Islamically.
		
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			And then, alhamdulillah, you know, after a while
		
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			you you you get used to being Muslim
		
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			in a way and you you find your
		
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			feet and you get a better understanding, I
		
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			think. And you realize that not everything that
		
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			you were before
		
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			was haram. Not everything that you were before
		
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			or loved before
		
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			was something that you had to abandon. And
		
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			so you start to reincorporate into your life
		
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			the things that were important to you, the
		
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			things that you were good at. But now
		
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			it's in halal context. And now it's in
		
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			Islamic context. Now it could even be a
		
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			bada if Allah Subhanahu Wa Ta'ala accepts it
		
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			from us. I've met so many people who've
		
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			been through that journey, you know, of becoming
		
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			Muslim, abandoning everything and everyone. You know, living
		
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			like that for many years sometimes and then
		
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			alhamdulillah after a while you realize that it's
		
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			not the way I thought it was at
		
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			the beginning. You know there is more space.
		
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			There is room. I can still be me
		
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			because being Muslim makes me the best version
		
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			of me. Doesn't make me into somebody else.
		
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			It just makes me the better version of
		
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			the one I was before, the person that
		
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			Allah created me to be.
		
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			My family were an interesting case.
		
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			My mother, who was a Christian, was happy
		
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			that I had found God. She was quite
		
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			pleased about that.
		
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			My father was an atheist, and
		
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			he was one of those people who felt
		
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			that you used to be you used to
		
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			be so amazing, you had so much potential,
		
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			you were going to do great things in
		
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			the world. And then now you're Muslim, you've
		
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			given up on everything. You know, you're gonna
		
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			marry some man, and we're never gonna see
		
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			you again. So there was a lot of
		
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			pressure, I think, on that side to sort
		
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			of to prove him wrong in a way.
		
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			Alhamdulillah, Yani, he's now, one of my greatest
		
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			supporters. But I think with the family, it
		
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			really was they felt it was a rejection
		
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			of of who we were as a family
		
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			and who, you know, who they had expected
		
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			me to be and who I had been.
		
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			So it was tough. It was tough. I
		
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			mean, my my sister, Marsha, she, she was
		
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			very supportive. But, you know, we had members
		
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			of the family who considered me a pariah
		
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			and just thought that I was a write
		
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			off, basically.
		
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			Alhamdulillah, you know, these things take time, sometimes.
		
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			And people need to see you finding your
		
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			feet within this new path.
		
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			When you get married, you know, when you
		
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			have start having children, it becomes normalized in
		
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			a way. And also, you as well, you
		
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			change. You know, when you're a first Muslim,
		
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			you wanna tell everybody about this amazing deen
		
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			and you wanna convince everybody this is the
		
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			truth. You should all be on it. You
		
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			should all be Muslim. And if you don't,
		
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			you're not Muslim. You're going to hellfire. You
		
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			know? And so a lot of revert find
		
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			themselves in a situation where they alienate
		
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			a lot of their family members because they're,
		
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			like, going in hard and going in hard.
		
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			And it takes a while for you to
		
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			realize that that's probably not the best approach,
		
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			and you need to have a lot more
		
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			jicama, a lot more wisdom when you're dealing
		
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			with people. And remember the love, You know,
		
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			remember what it means to be family. Remember
		
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			what it means to have love for your
		
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			family members and have that that that relationship
		
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			with with people in your family without compromising
		
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			your your religious principles.
		
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			So,
		
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			you know, as far as family is concerned,
		
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			some for some people, it is their biggest
		
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			test.
		
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			As I said, I was in a bubble.
		
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			I was away from home. I was away
		
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			from everybody. I was in university. So when
		
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			I first became Muslim, I didn't really, I
		
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			wasn't affected so much. Stuff that I would
		
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			hear second hand.
		
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			But, you know, as as the years go
		
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			by, it can be very very difficult and
		
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			and, you know, it is something that you
		
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			struggle with. But you just make dua, and
		
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			you continue to make dua that Allah Subhanahu
		
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			Wa Ta'ala keeps you guided, and that he
		
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			guides and opens the hearts of people around
		
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			you and that you,
		
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			through your
		
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			actions, through your attitude, through your behavior
		
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			can actually be effective dawah to these people,
		
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			around you and these people that you grew
		
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			up with. And if, at the very least,
		
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			change their perceptions of what it means to
		
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			be Muslim and insha Allah even open and
		
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			soften their hearts to the message of Islam.
		
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			The writing came by surprise.
		
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			I always enjoyed writing when I was younger,
		
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			when I was a teenager, but I never
		
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			thought of it as a career or something
		
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			that I would do, you know, as an
		
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			adult.
		
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			And it was born
		
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			around the time that my son was maybe
		
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			6 months, 8 months old, my eldest.
		
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			And I would take him to the library.
		
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			And at the library,
		
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			I love books. And we go to the
		
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			library, and we would take
		
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			so so much time in the children's library
		
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			just enjoying the books and, you know, choosing
		
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			which ones we're going to take home. And
		
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			really the biggest thing for me was that
		
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			there were no books about Muslims.
		
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			There were no books about Islam.
		
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			And I really wanted my son to grow
		
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			up with a very strong sense of himself
		
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			and a sense of pride in who he
		
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			is as a Muslim. I wanted him to
		
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			see himself
		
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			reflected
		
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			in the books that we were reading and
		
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			bringing home.
		
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			And really that's how the children's writing was
		
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			born. I just started writing little rhymes based
		
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			on some of the things that I liked
		
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			from the library, based on the some of
		
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			the ideas that I had seen. I just
		
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			started writing little rhymes for children and,
		
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			my first book, The Swirling Hijab, was a
		
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			result of one of those first sessions.
		
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			And I just started working as a children's
		
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			writer and my niche was multicultural children's literature
		
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			because there was, at the time,
		
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			a huge void in the market for books
		
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			about Muslims. Alhamdulillah, now a lot more. But
		
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			when I first started, this was now 2,000,
		
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			2,001.
		
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			There was nothing. So The Swirling Hijab was
		
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			actually revolutionary in its own way because it
		
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			was a book,
		
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			very much a children's book, it's in rhyming
		
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			texts, and it's about a girl playing with
		
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			her mother's hijab. And at the end it
		
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			says, you know, that covering her mom as
		
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			a part of her faith is what the
		
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			hijab does best. Now, that was before all
		
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			the hijab fitna, that was before the niqab
		
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			bans, this is before Europe went crazy, And
		
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			the publisher was brave enough to just say,
		
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			this is part of Muslim's life, this is
		
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			part of Islam,
		
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			and we want to help you celebrate that.
		
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			And so they did. And then after that,
		
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			we wrote about many different things. We wrote
		
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			about Islamic art, about how Muslims welcome, you
		
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			know, new babies.
		
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			I wrote a lot of books that looked
		
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			at different cultures and how different cultures live,
		
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			etcetera.
		
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			So that was the children's writing.
		
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			From my sister's lips came
		
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			literally
		
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			by Allah's planning because
		
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			I wasn't intending to write a book. I
		
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			ended up meeting my agent because she wanted
		
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			me to write a children's book for her.
		
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			And in the end, she came to my
		
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			home and, you know, I cooked for her
		
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			because she wanted to go out to eat.
		
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			And I said to her, well, I don't
		
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			mind going out with you, but I cover
		
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			fully, so not everywhere will be appropriate. And
		
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			she was just it just blew her mind.
		
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			And so she just couldn't get her head
		
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			around it. So she was like, excuse me.
		
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			I just need to know what do you
		
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			mean you cover fully. So I explained it
		
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			to her, and I said to her, you
		
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			know, I have always wanted to write a
		
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			book about what it means for me to
		
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			be a Muslim woman and to live in
		
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			the UK and and how I became Muslim.
		
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			Because every time I see a book that's
		
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			written about Muslim women, it's a sob story,
		
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			you know. It's a tragedy. It's some big
		
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			drama. And that's not our that's not how
		
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			we live, you know. That our lives aren't
		
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			like that. So she was really excited by
		
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			the idea and she said, look, I can
		
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			get you a book deal. If you can
		
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			write this book, I can get you a
		
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			book deal. And, alhamdulillah, she did. And so
		
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			that was the result. The result of that
		
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			was, from my sister's lips.
		
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			Alhamdulillah.
		
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			Amazing
		
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			help from the sisters that were around me
		
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			at the time. Just we did interviews. We
		
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			talked about everything and, we had a great
		
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			time doing that. And then I went back
		
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			home to my father's house in Zimbabwe to
		
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			actually write up all the interviews
		
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			and write the book. And the book took
		
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			about 6 weeks. It was just inspired.
		
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			I just sat down at the computer. The
		
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			words have just come.
		
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			And my father was one of my main
		
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			proofreaders so he would actually read the manuscript
		
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			and give me ideas on how to improve
		
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			this bit. So that I have to mention
		
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			this. I think he was the one who
		
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			made sure that I mentioned polygamy, I think,
		
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			and he was the one who made me
		
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			put the sisterhood at the end of the
		
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			book because he felt that that was really
		
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			the strongest message of my life and on
		
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			the book was Islamic sisterhood and what that
		
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			sisterhood means and what it and what it
		
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			can offer to the world. So that was
		
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			from my sister's lips, and then after that,
		
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			obviously, I wrote, many different novels for teenagers,
		
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			and all of them just wanting to
		
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			share
		
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			Muslim life with Muslims and with non Muslims.
		
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			And for young people to see themselves reflected
		
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			in the books that they read, and also
		
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			to be able to tackle some of the
		
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			issues that our young people face, that we
		
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			as adults have a hard time dealing with,
		
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			a hard time facing up to, things that
		
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			we don't talk about in general.
		
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			So, you know, From Somalia With Love, Boy
		
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			Versus Girl, Black Sheep, She Wore Red Trainers,
		
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			All of them deal with the reality of
		
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			being a young Muslim in in in the
		
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			West today and around the world, really.
		
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			So that's that's really how that's how my
		
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			writing trajectory has gone. I hope, inshallah, to
		
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			be able to write more books in the
		
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			in the style of From My Sister's Lips.
		
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			I have a lot of books inside me.
		
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			I still have to write about Hajj.
		
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			I would really like to write a book
		
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			about my as well
		
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			and, and include my poetry. So that's a
		
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			new thing for me.
		
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			This is the poetry, and, it's it's a
		
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			journey that I'm really enjoying.
		
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			And it seems to be touching people, and
		
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			it seems to be making a difference in
		
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			some people's lives. And, really, that's all we
		
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			can ask for, alhamdulillah.
		
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			I knew from my sister's lips was speaking
		
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			truth. I knew
		
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			that.
		
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			I wrote it from a place of
		
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			of love, really.
		
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			You know, I wanted to set the record
		
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			straight. I wanted people to be surprised
		
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			and inspired and learn from this book.
		
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			And just the love that I got from
		
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			sisters who actually were involved in the book,
		
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			how easy it was for the book to
		
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			come out. And then the response that we
		
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			got afterwards, I've had people saying they started
		
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			to wear hijab because of the book or
		
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			that's made them proud to be a Muslim.
		
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			And I know even some people who became
		
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			Muslim after reading that book. So,
		
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			you know, was I think, insha'Allah, was a
		
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			result of my intentions were really set the
		
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			record straight,
		
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			put this out there as a good deed,
		
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			insha'Allah.
		
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			And Allah will bring the success. So,
		
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			you know, Alhamdulillah, I pray that Allah accepts
		
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			it from me and from all the sisters
		
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			who were involved and also from, you know,
		
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			my husband, Alaydul Hammel, because he was a
		
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			huge part of that book, and and facilitating
		
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			it and supporting it and making it happen.
		
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			And, subhanAllah, he used to actually say that
		
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			he's hoping that
		
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			his one of his best deeds will be
		
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			helping me to write that book,
		
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			because it was, masha'Allah, such a a a
		
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			book of dawah. It was a book of
		
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			dawah.
		
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			And doctor Saleh Saleh also was involved and
		
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			may Allah have mercy on him, and and
		
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			and reward him, you know, for his work
		
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			on it.
		
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			It was it was a labor of love.
		
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			I think that's the best way to put
		
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			it.
		
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			It's been a journey.
		
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			It's been a journey.
		
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			Can I say,
		
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			it's been a journey of
		
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			self discovery?
		
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			There's been hardships,
		
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			there's been trials,
		
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			there's been successes and triumphs.
		
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			And,
		
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			at the end of the day, I think
		
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			the best thing
		
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			about it is that I'm still standing.
		
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			You know,
		
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			when he passed, and I had Hamu,
		
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			I just was thrown into a whole new
		
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			world, a whole new role.
		
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			You know, I've I've been
		
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			sort of stay at home mom, I've been
		
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			work from home mom, I've been a homeschooling
		
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			mom,
		
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			and for the first time,
		
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			I'm mom and dad.
		
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			I'm a working mom. I'm a single mom.
		
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			I I run a company. I run 2
		
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			companies, and I run my husband's company as
		
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			well as sisters.
		
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			And,
		
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			yeah, it's a new it's a new life.
		
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			And
		
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			this is what Allah has decreed for me.
		
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			And because I'm still standing, I know that
		
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			Allah has put khair in it for me.
		
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			So even though it's nothing like I knew
		
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			and nothing like I expected,
		
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			I have
		
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			full
		
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			that there is clear in it for me
		
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			and that I can handle it. And I
		
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			think that makes a huge difference. Allah is
		
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			my waleem. He's my waleem, and he will
		
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			never let me he will never let me
		
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			fall. And I believe that with full certainty.
		
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			And so even when the tests come, even
		
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			when the trials come, even when it feels
		
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			overwhelming,
		
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			I know that he is there and that
		
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			he's wish willing me to call through and
		
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			that he will not let me fall and
		
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			that he'll catch me.
		
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			I think one of the things that I
		
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			would say to, mashaAllah, every sister that's out
		
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			there is keep your head up.
		
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			Keep your head up. This life is not
		
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			easy.
		
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			This life is full of trials. Alhamdulillah. We
		
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			have a good time. A lot of us
		
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			have a good time at it but it
		
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			is a trial. But if you see the
		
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			trials and the tests as a challenge,
		
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			you will face it in a different way
		
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			from if you see it as like a
		
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			punishment or something that you is being imposed
		
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			on you that you've got no control over.
		
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			Everything that happens to us is a challenge.
		
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			And when we have the mindset that even
		
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			though we are going to achieve and we
		
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			are going to win and we are going
		
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			to actually we we're going to we're gonna
		
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			step up to the plate
		
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			and we're gonna put our game face on,
		
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			then you approach it with positivity and confidence.
		
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			And know that Allah Subhanahu Wa Ta'ala wants
		
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			good for you and that he will guide
		
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			you if you want guidance. And so,
		
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			make intention is the first thing. Make intention
		
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			and then take the first step. Allah Subhanahu
		
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			Wa Ta'ala will always help you if you're
		
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			making your way towards him. The hadith Qudsi
		
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			tells us if you come towards him, a
		
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			hand span he comes towards you at arms
		
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			length. Meaning, he will not leave you to
		
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			make the whole journey on your own without
		
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			helping you, he will help you.
		
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			Make the intention,
		
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			take the first step, surround yourself with good
		
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			company. That's the advice I have for my
		
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			sisters out there because
		
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			in those ways at least whatever happens,
		
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			if you don't get on deen before you
		
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			die at least you die trying, and I
		
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			think that is where we all want to
		
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			be that we Allah takes us when we're
		
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			striving and he takes us when we're trying
		
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			and he takes us when our hearts are
		
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			already attached to him, when our intention is
		
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			already to rejoin him. And I think that's
		
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			the advice that I would give to my
		
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			sisters.