Naima B. Robert – Marriage Advice for Muslims Entitlement, Expectations and Emotions LIVE

Naima B. Robert
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The speakers discuss the challenges women face when bringing up children, including integrity and integrity gaps, and emphasize the need for emotional regulation, balancing expectations with reality, and maintaining a healthy lifestyle. They stress the importance of finding a father figure, finding a partner, finding a woman who is receptive to being coached, finding a balance between love and humility, and avoiding weight management and healthy lifestyle. They also emphasize the need for personal accountability and acknowledging one's own actions to make better choices. The speakers outline their goal of reaching 500,000 subscribers and emphasize the importance of models and models in healthy living and healthy eating. They plan to conduct a Zoom call for unmarried sisters and transition to a super chat and announcement for the next week.
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I just want to get my wine in

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for a little minute, guys.

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Everyone. Welcome to the live stream. Assalamu alaikum,

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brother Nasik.

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How are you?

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Guys, let us know how Upsound is, please.

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It might be off.

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It might not be.

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Wow. We've got

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we've

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got Saudi Arabia in the house. We've

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got

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Guinea, Konakri.

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I've been there

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before. We got Ghana in the house as

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well.

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Guys. How are you all doing tonight? Let

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us know in the chat how you are

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doing.

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Whether it's been a good week

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and whether you were here live last week

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or last night or if this is your

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first time. Let us know in the chat.

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Make sure you give the video a thumbs

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up as you come in. Badanassu, how has

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your week been?

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Very good. Productive.

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Just like I like it.

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Yes. Good. Masha'Allah. Talk to us about the

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integrity

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gap. Notice this has been a theme this

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week. This integrity and the integrity gap. What's

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all that about?

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Yeah. Before we're gonna get there though, we

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have to start first with with you. How

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was your show last night?

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It was brilliant.

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Yeah. It was brilliant.

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You're great, and you're brilliant.

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Okay. Brilliant is brilliant.

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It is. It is. Talk to me. How

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was it? It was really, really good. We

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had,

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a wide variety of guests come on,

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people's brothers, sisters,

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people speaking from a mother's perspective, from a

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son's perspective, from a husband's perspective. It was

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it was really good. And,

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guys, if you weren't there last night, then

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basically on Wednesday nights, I come on live.

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We have a live call in show, and

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there's a topic that we address each week.

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Last night, it was mothers raising men.

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And we were just looking at some of

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the pitfalls that mothers can fall into when

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they're bringing up boys and bringing up their

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sons,

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and the impact that that can have and

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how to avoid making those types of mistakes.

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And really what I loved about yesterday's conversation

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was just how

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how open everybody is when they come on,

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how respectfully,

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everybody interacts with everyone else.

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You know, people really share

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a lot of good stuff,

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and we we we really were able to

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unearth

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a lot of important points.

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And,

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so far the comments for people who've watched

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the replay have shown that people benefited. So.

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Yeah. It was good.

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How did the sisters take it?

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Because I'm interested in in in if that

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if they were open to

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that perspective,

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right, that

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they can't do it all.

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That wasn't really the tone, actually Okay. At

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all. No. Okay. We weren't talking about that.

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It was actually based on a post,

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that a man had written when he was

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talking to men. It's actually addressed to men

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mainly,

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talking about how

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as a as a man,

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some men have not had the opportunity

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to separate truly from their mothers

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because some mothers basically

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smother their sons. Right?

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Especially single mothers or mothers who are in

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unhappy marriages. So that kind of segued into

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whole son husbands and mama's boys and that

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kind of thing. But that they tend to

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not allow their sons to to break away.

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Right? And he was just saying how that

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breaking away

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is a fundamental part of your formation as

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a young man.

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And, if you never had the opportunity to

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do that, it will show up in your

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marriage in this way, this way, and that

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way. So it was more about looking at

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the the codependency

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that can be found in relationships between the

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mothers and the sons.

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There was a brother, Masha'allah, who came on

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from a from a husband's perspective. He also

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came on, like, from a father and a

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stepfather perspective,

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And we were talking about how difficult it

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can be dealing with teenage boys when you're

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a woman on your own and what teenage

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boys need. And it was it was really

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good.

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It was really, really good. Really,

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insightful, thoughtful,

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and a lot of, yeah, a lot of

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good stuff was shared. The chat was amazing.

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Like, everybody in the chat was so connected

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and so,

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you know, really paying attention and and, you

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know, making good points in the chat. I

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think part of what makes these lives amazing

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is the contribution from the comments, contribution from

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the chat, so I love it. I'm doing

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that. Yeah.

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No. That's a that's a needed topic. That's

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a that's a definitely a needed topic and

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something that needs to be addressed. I know

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for me, I was raised by a single

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mother,

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and I I greatly,

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benefited from the men that came in,

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to my life at different points in time.

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Yeah. I I I was blessed that,

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various men, they may not have stayed long.

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Right? It may have been for example, was

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a a high school,

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teacher, English teacher.

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For one point, it was a college professor.

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Right?

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Or a police officer at one point in

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time. So these men came in, and

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they served their purpose. Yeah. They they gave

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me a bit of guidance, a jewel that

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I needed at that moment to correct

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and avoid maybe certain pitfalls,

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and then they left. Right? So I I

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I got what I needed from them.

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Mhmm.

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But I was very much blessed with that

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because my father, fortunately, taught me everything not

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to do.

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Mhmm. And dealing with the emotions that are

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connected with seeing

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model for you what not to do,

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I think for me, it it allowed me

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to be receptive to

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men that came in

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and showed me an alternative.

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Right?

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And, plus, making the mistakes on my own.

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Right? So making a number of mistakes in

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life early at life. And I think that's

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one of the things of not having a

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a father figure in your life.

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You fall early.

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And so you learn early that the stove

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is hot.

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Right? And so you can keep touching it,

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but it's gonna be hot. It's gonna be

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painful. So I think by the time I

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hit my teenage years,

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I was receptive to,

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alternative views, alternative perspectives

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because I had had enough years of realizing

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the pain of touching the stove. Right? Mhmm.

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Mhmm.

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And I think that's why later on in

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life when

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I learned about CBT, I was very much

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receptive to it because at the core of

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CBT,

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and for those listening cognitive behavior therapy at

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CBT,

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at the core of CBT is this this

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premise that we all have a hypothesis,

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right, when an event happens.

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And it's up for us to test out

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that hypothesis,

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I e, to test out our thinking.

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And so what my younger years had taught

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me was

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my initial perception when something happens,

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my knee jerk reaction, my habitual thinking,

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and that of my peers

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may not be

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optimal. It may not be best. It may

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not be helpful.

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And so then when I found CBT, it

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was

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learning a systematic way

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to challenge my initial thinking.

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Right? So I fell in love with the

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model

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initially because I had had the history, the

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years of

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learning that

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my way isn't always the best way.

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Mhmm. It is now because it's the males

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perspective, which is always the right perspective. But

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I learned early though

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that You guys can click off now if

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you like. No. No. That's gonna bring them

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all in. All the masculine has come over

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there. I'm bringing that I'm I'm trying to

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get that Masculina energy in here, liven up

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the chat, spicing it up. So what I

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learned early though is

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my initial,

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thoughts would come to my mind. Right? The

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perception that I have and then the evaluation

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I make isn't necessarily

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optimal. It's not helpful.

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Not always.

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And so with that being said, I I

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found a model that gave me a formula,

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a systematic way to challenge myself.

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Right? And so I think that that is

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one of the reason why I fell in

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love with the model, but one of the

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reasons why

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I think I've I I would like to

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think I've helped people with the model is

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because I've seen it in my own life.

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Right?

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It it was born out of

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it was born out of not having a

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father.

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Mhmm.

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Right? And so at a early age learning

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that I needed to think about my thinking.

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And when you when you study CBT, that's

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a recurring

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mantra that you will hear.

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Right? It's think about your thinking.

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Mhmm. Right? And I tell clients all the

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time, when you experience an intense emotion,

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that's a red flag for you to think

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about your thinking.

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So whenever you have a uncomfortable emotion or

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you find yourself you woken up and you're

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not ready to get out of bed and

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it's 15 minutes past, 30 minutes past, you

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know you're gonna be late for work or

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wherever you need to be, but you still

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can't seem to get up and get out

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of bed,

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you know you're borderline,

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sad, depressed,

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then that's those are all experiences and emotions

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for you to think about your thinking.

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What are you telling yourself about yourself

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or about others or about life conditions?

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And oftentimes and this is something you and

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I have talked about. Oftentimes, there's also what

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are you saying about your Lord?

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Right? That conversation that you that you're having

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about

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how you how your Lord must view you.

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Right, in order to create these conditions for

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you.

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Right.

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So, yeah, single coming. So for those parents,

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for those mothers that are raising,

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single,

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raising a son,

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it's possible.

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It's possible, except that you're not gonna be

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perfect at it. It's gonna be challenges,

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But, you know, your sons can learn from

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that.

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Right?

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At

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least that that was my perspective. That was

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my experience. But but I I will also

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acknowledge, I I lost a lot of friends

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in the process

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who were also raised by single mothers.

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And they had, you know, more challenging

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existence,

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and

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their more challenging consequences

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to some of the choices,

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that they made in life,

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and are still making in life.

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Yeah. It was actually interesting because one of

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the,

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one of the things that came out of

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our discussion yesterday was

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that

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one of the pitfalls of being raised by

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a mother on her own without any men

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around is that you

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her instinct is to not allow you to

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learn those lessons.

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Her instinct for many is to protect you

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from the lessons, right? Is to cushion your

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fall, is to make excuses, excuses, is to

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protect you and to cuddle you.

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Which is why we ended up having a

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conversation about, you know,

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boys who grow up feminized

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or who grow up weak basically because

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their mother's instinct is to keep them safe.

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Their mother's instinct is to not allow them

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to face consequences.

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She doesn't wanna see them sad, she doesn't

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wanna see them unhappy. She, you know, she

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it feels bad to her

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to make him take the blame, take consequences

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like a father would. Right? Because the father's

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gonna tell you, suck it up.

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Most moms don't say that. Most moms would

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be like, you don't you don't wanna do

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it right now? Okay. Let's see if we

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can. You know what I mean? And there's

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a negotiation and then there's like a, how

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can I make this okay? That's the mother's

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imperative. How can I make this okay for

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my child? Fathers don't do that. I think

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in general because most fathers say, but that's

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not what he needs. He needs to feel

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it. He needs to know it. He needs

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to see it. He needs to he needs

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to he needs to do the thing, basically.

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As as a young man, as, you know,

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a future

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man,

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he needs to be able well, he needs

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to be tough, basically. He needs to to

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to gain the competency,

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to gain the strength that he will need

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later on in life. Right? So, yeah, African

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moms do true adventure media. Right? African moms

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don't play.

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Sorry. None of these apply to African moms.

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Yeah. It's interesting because I I was in

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my mind, I was saying my mother was

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the exception. And maybe African American moms as

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well. Maybe African American moms too. I think

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there's something there.

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With the

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recurring

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voice in my head, and and I would

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always hear from my mother,

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look. Don't do anything to go to jail

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because you're gonna stay there,

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which means

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there are consequences to the choices you make

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in life. And so don't make choices that

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you're not willing to handle the consequences that

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come with it.

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Do you think she would have left you

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in jail if you had?

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Yeah. Okay.

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Yeah. Yeah. I I I think so. Because

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and this is another piece this is another

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piece that

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I'm not sure if you guys talked about

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is,

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how do mothers handle

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how do mothers handle

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the

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the breaking of the marriage,

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the loss of the love for the husband,

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and then how that is handled emotionally

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and what that looks like in the relationship

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to the son.

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Yeah. We talked about we talked about in,

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actually, in the case of yesterday,

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we talked about,

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women who are either have have, you know,

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the relationship has broken down or it's dysfunctional,

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and her turning her attention to her son.

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The the love, the devotion, the care, the

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comfort, the adoration

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is channeled towards her perfect little man, her

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golden boy, which again is in contrast to

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the example that I think that you can

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bring, which is that for for for some

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single mothers,

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you're not the golden boy.

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You are like your father

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or you're going to be like your father.

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So it's interesting. Interesting how different people navigate

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that. Because on the one hand, you have

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those who are like, you know, this is

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my

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perfect son, and he's the only good one

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out of all these men. And then for

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other people,

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he's the only good one out of all

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these men. And then for other mothers, it's

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like, no. You're just a man like the

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rest of them unless I can do something

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about that.

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Yeah. And and or there's nothing I can

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do about it. You're just gonna be like

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your father. Okay. Okay. Right? So so the

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continuum is there. Right?

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And so with with that being said,

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how does a young man and so this

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is why it's important, and this speaks to

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the conversation we had before about

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previous generations. And, you know, I was saying

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previous generations

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did not have

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the

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emotional understanding and ability to regulate.

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They more had they they had cultural pressures

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that kept them in a certain box

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versus the emotional regulation, and that's that's what

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was demonstrated to our generation.

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And so

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that's another piece with this. You know? 1,

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is there where's the emotional regulation in terms

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of the type of

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man that you chose to marry? That's 1.

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And then 2, when that relationship is

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experiencing

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discomfort or

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disturbance,

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how do you handle that in terms of

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emotional regulation? And then when it actually doesn't

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work out and there's a divorce,

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emotional regulation is also needed at that point

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as well. Right? So this concept of learning

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how to regulate your emotions is essential.

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Because whatever phase your marriage or relationship is

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in, even once it's over, and then your

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relationship with your children, yourself and your children,

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emotional regulation is critical.

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And and and, you know, I I could

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say this to my mother that I think

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would would agree as well. I know she

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would. Is that emotional regulation as we understand

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it now as

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She didn't have that, right, and nor did

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I. Right? And so you have 2 people

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trying to figure out,

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you know, and navigate,

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the reality of I look just like my

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father. I have tendencies

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like my father.

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And so how does a woman deal with

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that,

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right,

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when the relationship is over, the marriage is

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over?

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Right? So, yeah, it's it's it's a it's

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a deep

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conversation. It's a needed conversation. But, again, I

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think the critical

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piece with it,

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and this probably is my bias here, is

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emotional regulation is essential.

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If you don't have it, it's gonna show

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itself in your life. Mhmm.

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Mhmm. And or it's gonna show itself in

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the lives of your children.

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Both. And

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and I think we can agree and.

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So guys, if you missed that yesterday, it's

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on the channel. It's the Wednesday night live

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stream. I think it's called mum mothers raising

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men, an impossible feat, something like this.

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So please do go ahead and watch that.

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Give us your thoughts in the comments. And,

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today,

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our candid conversation

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is, a response, I guess, or a discussion,

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of something that we wanna share with you

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guys. It's,

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I think that this was a post or

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a DM.

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And,

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Charla, when you guys hear it, you'll see

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kind of where we're going with this. But

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we are opening the call lines, so you

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guys will be able to join the show

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and, you know, jump in and share your

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thoughts. Inshallah, I love when we do that.

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It's so much fun.

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So I wanna put that in the chat,

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and you guys will be able to join

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after we have kind of chopped it up

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for a little bit. So would you like

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to read or should I read?

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If you can, if you don't mind. It's

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come it's a woman's perspective, so they can

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get in a woman's voice. So you can,

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you know, add the adlibs and the tone

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and all of that. You know? You can

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As long as we don't have to hear

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the male perspective, which is the right perspective,

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again, for the rest of today's show, that's

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cool with me.

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Yeah. You

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will.

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Right.

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So sis says,

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if a husband

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needs to request his wife to remain physically

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fit,

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then

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I want all the bills paid.

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I want to be a stay at home

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mom,

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wife, and homeschooling mother.

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I want a gym membership.

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For your information, women only gym memberships are

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expensive.

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Organic food,

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a monthly allowance for my hair,

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waxing,

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eyebrow threading, nails, and a seasonal budget for

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new clothes.

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Of course, to maintain this fitness level, I

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need him to watch our kids so I

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can meal prep and do those 100 plus

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crunches to keep my stomach flat.

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He also must keep a 6 figure income

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and never develop a dad bod.

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So those are her demands,

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and that is what she wants to see

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happen if a husband

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and let's remember what the initial statement was.

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If a husband requests his wife to remain

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physically fit, these are the conditions, people.

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Okay? So if, brothers, you're on notice,

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if you require your wife to be physically

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fit, then you have to pay all the

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bills.

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You have to earn 6 figures.

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You have to your wife has to be

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a stay at home mom. She has to

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have a female only gym membership.

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You have to be buying organic food. You

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have to be providing a monthly allowance for

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hair waxing, eyebrow threading, nails, and new clothes.

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And, you have to watch the kids so

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that she can meal prep and you have

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to not develop a dad bod.

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Those are the conditions if you want your

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wife to stay fit, not say you.

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So, 1, I wanna give you credit because

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I I think you really, like you you

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you hit the the Masculina

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energy on that with ad libs and, you

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know I'm good with that. Yeah. Yeah. I

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think you did. Yeah.

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Yeah. Salute

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to you.

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You know, the first thing that comes to

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mind is

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and this is your fault

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because I don't think,

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you talk about this enough and you need

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to, my perspective,

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is

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the denial of the wall. I

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think

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the the I am. I'm about to. I

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I think

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the denial of the wall is real, and

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I think it is it permeates

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through

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these expectations,

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I. E. These demands.

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I I I think sisters

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deny the fact

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that they lose

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leverage.

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They lose

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leverage

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as they age.

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And men do as well, but our wall

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is much later

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later in life.

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And I think it's important for sisters to

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understand

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that. You don't have the leverage in your

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thirties that you had in your early twenties

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and late twenties.

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So it's important that your expectations

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for your husband

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be tempered by that.

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Now there's a number of ways in which

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we can go by this, I think, also

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in terms of your own health

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and also remaining attractive to your husband.

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But I think one of the critical things

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that women must understand is the wall is

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real.

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Denying it doesn't make it,

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not not real. It is real. You will

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hit it.

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And if you just want and this is

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gonna be uncomfortable.

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If you want just a a clear example

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of it is, look at some of your

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old pictures from 5, 10 years ago.

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Look at the attention you were getting from

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5 or 10 years ago.

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And this also brings up another important point.

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Sisters, I know this may be uncomfortable, but

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it's what you need to hear.

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There's a difference between

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the

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attention you get from a man

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because he wants to

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provide for you,

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take care of you,

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versus a man that just wants comfort.

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Keep that in mind when you're on those

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apps. You can get a lot of men

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that swipe on you and click on your

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profile

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because they're interested in comfort.

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It's not because they're interested

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in commitment.

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And that leverage you have for commitment,

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it wanes,

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especially when you get into your late twenties

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and and and thirties.

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What do you think?

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Sister,

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while it's true, when I look at my

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pics, I've changed. Thank you for being honest,

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sis.

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Thank you for being honest.

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And again, sis, just a quick point with

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that, just so so that, you know,

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sisters understand that I'm being balanced with this.

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Look.

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Your wall may be late twenties, early thirties,

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and it can be the same thing for

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brothers. But the reality is you guys want

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resources. You want provision.

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Our provision, our ability to provide

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increases

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if we're doing what we need to be

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doing, and that's the type of man you

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should be looking for. If we're doing what

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we need to be doing,

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we our money just increases.

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Late thirties, forties, fifties,

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sixties,

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it increases.

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So as long as we're still making money

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and taking care of ourselves, even while exercising,

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which we should be doing as men,

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That's another conversation.

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Then our wall is much later.

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Men typically marry women,

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first and foremost,

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and I know the religious police are gonna

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get me for this.

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Yes. Religion is important,

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but men look for beauty.

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Many men look for

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attractiveness.

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Hence,

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get in the gym.

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I'm done.

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For me, I didn't even think about the

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wall,

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because I have no idea how old this

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sister is.

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My issue is the entitlement.

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My issue is the entitlement.

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It is

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the attitude.

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It's the vibe.

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Right? It's the

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sassy

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world. If you're gonna want that,

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then I'm gonna need boom boom boom boom

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boom. Right?

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Not to mention the fact that the thing

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that is being requested

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is literally

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to remain

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physically

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fit.

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So what you're saying

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is that unless your husband

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is operating

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at the top of his game, she said

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6 figures, guys. She said 6 figures, and

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she said he can't have a dad bod

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either. And he has to keep her at

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home inorganic food with all every all the

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bills paid, including her own kind of upkeep,

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etcetera,

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right, and minds the kids and watch the

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kids. Right? So, basically,

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he has to do

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everything that he possibly could be doing

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in if he expects her to be physically

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fit.

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And my thing is,

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is it that hard, sis?

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Is it is it that hard to stay

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fit?

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Is it that much of a burden?

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Is it that much of an expectation

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that you get to demand this huge list

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in return for what being physically fit? Come

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on now.

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Come on, man.

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Come on. Come on, man. Don't bring us

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that. This is some nonsense beef. Right? So

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exactly. This is says it says, you know,

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some of these conditions are hilarious. I mean,

00:29:27 --> 00:29:29

the sister was probably joking and she was

00:29:29 --> 00:29:31

she was exaggerating,

00:29:31 --> 00:29:31

but

00:29:32 --> 00:29:33

It's the attitude.

00:29:34 --> 00:29:37

It's the attitude that men shouldn't have standards

00:29:38 --> 00:29:41

My husband shouldn't have any expectations with me.

00:29:41 --> 00:29:42

And if he does have an expectation,

00:29:43 --> 00:29:44

he better be doing

00:29:44 --> 00:29:46

1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, and all

00:29:46 --> 00:29:47

of the things.

00:29:47 --> 00:29:50

And that attitude of entitlement,

00:29:50 --> 00:29:52

guys, I've said it before, and I'll say

00:29:52 --> 00:29:54

it again, sisters.

00:29:55 --> 00:29:57

This is across the board for Muslims anyway

00:29:57 --> 00:30:00

because Allah Subhanahu Wa Ta'ala invites us to

00:30:00 --> 00:30:02

be humble, right, and to walk on the

00:30:02 --> 00:30:03

earth with humility.

00:30:04 --> 00:30:06

However, as a woman

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and as a potential wife or even a

00:30:08 --> 00:30:10

wife because there are wives who have the

00:30:10 --> 00:30:12

same energy, right?

00:30:12 --> 00:30:13

As a wife,

00:30:14 --> 00:30:15

a sense of entitlement

00:30:16 --> 00:30:17

gets you nowhere.

00:30:18 --> 00:30:20

In fact, a sense of entitlement and this

00:30:20 --> 00:30:21

attitude

00:30:28 --> 00:30:29

pushes your husband away

00:30:30 --> 00:30:33

because it is coming from a place of

00:30:33 --> 00:30:34

arrogance

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and pride and ingratitude.

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The joke in this post aside

00:30:41 --> 00:30:42

the audacity

00:30:43 --> 00:30:45

To say that my husband having this one

00:30:45 --> 00:30:48

request of me and didn't even say be

00:30:48 --> 00:30:50

a size something It didn't even say not

00:30:50 --> 00:30:52

put in it. Just said be physically fit

00:30:54 --> 00:30:55

That you have the audacity

00:30:56 --> 00:30:58

that if your husband makes this type of

00:30:58 --> 00:31:00

request or he has that standard,

00:31:01 --> 00:31:03

he has that as, you know, something that

00:31:03 --> 00:31:03

he requires

00:31:04 --> 00:31:06

that you have the audacity to say, oh,

00:31:06 --> 00:31:08

really? It's like that? Okay then. Well, you

00:31:08 --> 00:31:11

better be coming with all of the things.

00:31:11 --> 00:31:12

It's it's unacceptable.

00:31:13 --> 00:31:14

It's unacceptable

00:31:14 --> 00:31:17

completely. And it it speaks to, again,

00:31:18 --> 00:31:18

this,

00:31:19 --> 00:31:21

idea that we've spoken about where modern women

00:31:21 --> 00:31:23

are told that they are the prize

00:31:23 --> 00:31:25

and that they are they are pretty much

00:31:25 --> 00:31:28

perfect. Right? And that any man who is

00:31:28 --> 00:31:29

with them is blessed,

00:31:29 --> 00:31:30

is lucky,

00:31:36 --> 00:31:38

unfortunately, I even that I even this that

00:31:38 --> 00:31:40

I even that and I even this. And,

00:31:40 --> 00:31:41

unfortunately,

00:31:41 --> 00:31:42

I think

00:31:43 --> 00:31:44

the reason why

00:31:44 --> 00:31:46

a lot of the traditional

00:31:46 --> 00:31:50

advice and especially the traditional Islamic advice,

00:31:50 --> 00:31:52

the reason why it rubs sisters up the

00:31:52 --> 00:31:53

wrong way,

00:31:53 --> 00:31:57

I'm gonna be blatantly and brutally honest with

00:31:57 --> 00:31:57

you guys.

00:31:58 --> 00:32:00

The reason why we don't like to hear

00:32:00 --> 00:32:02

about the rights of the husband

00:32:03 --> 00:32:05

is because in the deed, it makes it

00:32:05 --> 00:32:06

very clear

00:32:08 --> 00:32:09

which side your bread is buttered.

00:32:10 --> 00:32:12

It makes it very clear. And the way

00:32:12 --> 00:32:15

your bread is buttered is not what society

00:32:15 --> 00:32:17

tells you. Society is out here telling us

00:32:17 --> 00:32:20

that men run after us, that men's job

00:32:20 --> 00:32:22

is to please us, that we are the

00:32:22 --> 00:32:24

prize, that we are on the pedestal,

00:32:24 --> 00:32:27

that we are the the beautiful perfect thing

00:32:27 --> 00:32:29

and men are just trying to figure it

00:32:29 --> 00:32:30

out. Right?

00:32:30 --> 00:32:33

And that basically our needs come first. That's

00:32:33 --> 00:32:35

what society is telling us, Right?

00:32:35 --> 00:32:37

That's what they show in the films. That's

00:32:37 --> 00:32:39

what the music is based on. That's what

00:32:39 --> 00:32:41

we are being taught by the environment around

00:32:41 --> 00:32:41

us.

00:32:42 --> 00:32:42

Unfortunately,

00:32:43 --> 00:32:44

for us,

00:32:44 --> 00:32:46

the dean makes it very clear

00:32:47 --> 00:32:49

the hierarchy within the relationship.

00:32:50 --> 00:32:52

And like I said, whose bread is buttered

00:32:52 --> 00:32:53

and where?

00:32:54 --> 00:32:56

And that is why a lot of that

00:32:56 --> 00:32:56

advice,

00:32:57 --> 00:32:58

it it stings

00:32:58 --> 00:33:00

and it sticks in the throat.

00:33:00 --> 00:33:02

What do you mean I need to treat

00:33:02 --> 00:33:04

him like a king? Why? What's so great

00:33:04 --> 00:33:06

about him? You know what I'm saying? What

00:33:06 --> 00:33:08

do you mean that if Allah told

00:33:08 --> 00:33:11

anyone to prostrate in front of anyone else

00:33:11 --> 00:33:13

in this dunya, it would be the wife

00:33:13 --> 00:33:14

to her husband? What do you mean? Why?

00:33:14 --> 00:33:17

What's so great about him? What's he's just

00:33:17 --> 00:33:20

doing his job. You see that attitude there?

00:33:20 --> 00:33:22

If you do feel that, sis, and I

00:33:22 --> 00:33:23

felt it before,

00:33:24 --> 00:33:27

if we're feeling that, it's because we've dropped

00:33:27 --> 00:33:29

the Kool Aid off this modern society,

00:33:30 --> 00:33:32

and we're uncomfortable with the idea

00:33:33 --> 00:33:36

that our husband has such a high ranking

00:33:36 --> 00:33:38

in our lives and that their

00:33:38 --> 00:33:41

pleasure with us and their approval of us

00:33:41 --> 00:33:43

has as much weight with Allah That's

00:33:44 --> 00:33:45

big, man.

00:33:46 --> 00:33:47

That's big

00:33:48 --> 00:33:50

and that's what nobody really wants to say.

00:33:50 --> 00:33:53

Sisters want to carry on like we're equals.

00:33:53 --> 00:33:54

Are we the same?

00:33:55 --> 00:33:57

Well, yeah, I have to respect him, but

00:33:57 --> 00:33:58

he has to respect me.

00:33:58 --> 00:33:59

Oh, yeah. I have to obey him, but

00:33:59 --> 00:34:01

he also has to listen to me. You

00:34:01 --> 00:34:02

know, there's all of that kind of thing.

00:34:02 --> 00:34:04

Okay. Yeah. Okay. I could but he has

00:34:04 --> 00:34:06

to do it. This is where this post

00:34:06 --> 00:34:08

for me, that's the energy that it's coming

00:34:08 --> 00:34:09

with.

00:34:09 --> 00:34:10

It's conditional.

00:34:11 --> 00:34:12

It's conditional

00:34:12 --> 00:34:13

obedience.

00:34:13 --> 00:34:17

It's conditional pleasing of the husband. It's conditional

00:34:17 --> 00:34:19

prioritizing of the husband's needs.

00:34:20 --> 00:34:23

And in this example, obviously, it's completely, you

00:34:23 --> 00:34:24

know, out of whack.

00:34:24 --> 00:34:25

But sisters,

00:34:25 --> 00:34:28

if we are doing that, we need to

00:34:28 --> 00:34:29

check ourselves because

00:34:29 --> 00:34:30

I fear

00:34:31 --> 00:34:33

that our attitude to our husbands

00:34:33 --> 00:34:36

will make us of the women mentioned in

00:34:36 --> 00:34:38

the hadith who take up the majority of

00:34:38 --> 00:34:39

the hellfire because of being ungrateful.

00:34:40 --> 00:34:42

Nobody wants to hear the hadith. Right?

00:34:42 --> 00:34:44

Nobody really wants to talk about that hadith.

00:34:44 --> 00:34:46

Nobody really wants to mention it because, again,

00:34:46 --> 00:34:47

it's another one of those that makes it

00:34:47 --> 00:34:48

so uncomfortable

00:34:49 --> 00:34:51

because we're used to seeing ourselves in a

00:34:51 --> 00:34:54

certain way and Allah and his messenger are

00:34:54 --> 00:34:54

saying,

00:34:56 --> 00:34:58

Just just just like like come back down

00:34:58 --> 00:34:59

to us,

00:35:00 --> 00:35:00

recognize

00:35:01 --> 00:35:04

what this man is and the place that

00:35:04 --> 00:35:06

he has in your life and the place

00:35:06 --> 00:35:07

he should have

00:35:07 --> 00:35:09

in your life and in your priorities.

00:35:09 --> 00:35:11

And if that makes you feel uncomfortable, you

00:35:11 --> 00:35:12

need to check that.

00:35:13 --> 00:35:14

Rant over.

00:35:16 --> 00:35:18

Yeah. I think see, I think

00:35:19 --> 00:35:20

let's look at the comments. So

00:35:21 --> 00:35:22

we should say for ourselves.

00:35:23 --> 00:35:24

Exactly. For

00:35:24 --> 00:35:25

our own self esteem,

00:35:25 --> 00:35:27

it makes you feel good.

00:35:29 --> 00:35:31

Just a side note a side note.

00:35:32 --> 00:35:34

I I understand where the system was going

00:35:34 --> 00:35:35

with this, but just a side note, it

00:35:35 --> 00:35:36

it's a

00:35:37 --> 00:35:40

it's a point to to bring up when

00:35:40 --> 00:35:43

it because I deal with emotional regulation.

00:35:44 --> 00:35:45

I I want you all to be,

00:35:47 --> 00:35:47

mindful

00:35:48 --> 00:35:49

of self esteem.

00:35:50 --> 00:35:52

Because self esteem

00:35:52 --> 00:35:55

from the modality that I use is a

00:35:55 --> 00:35:56

trap.

00:35:58 --> 00:35:59

And the reason why I say it's a

00:35:59 --> 00:36:01

trap is because, typically,

00:36:01 --> 00:36:03

self esteem is viewed

00:36:04 --> 00:36:04

and

00:36:05 --> 00:36:08

practiced in a way that is conditioned based.

00:36:09 --> 00:36:12

I venerate myself. I feel good about myself

00:36:13 --> 00:36:14

when I meet this condition.

00:36:15 --> 00:36:16

Right? So

00:36:16 --> 00:36:18

when I go to the gym,

00:36:18 --> 00:36:19

I feel good about myself.

00:36:20 --> 00:36:22

When I miss going to the gym, I

00:36:22 --> 00:36:23

don't feel good about myself.

00:36:23 --> 00:36:27

So that attaches them. IE, your self esteem,

00:36:28 --> 00:36:29

your self worth

00:36:29 --> 00:36:32

is attached to conditions, what you do.

00:36:32 --> 00:36:36

So whenever you're doing well, you're venerating yourself.

00:36:36 --> 00:36:37

You feel good.

00:36:38 --> 00:36:39

The problem is if you're gonna follow that

00:36:39 --> 00:36:40

logic,

00:36:40 --> 00:36:42

when you're not doing well, you're gonna bring

00:36:42 --> 00:36:46

yourself down as well. So it's best to

00:36:46 --> 00:36:46

separate

00:36:47 --> 00:36:50

your worth, your value over here.

00:36:50 --> 00:36:53

Right? And it's not something that you rate

00:36:53 --> 00:36:53

or label.

00:36:54 --> 00:36:56

And then over here is what you do.

00:36:56 --> 00:36:57

It's skill sets.

00:36:58 --> 00:36:58

So

00:36:59 --> 00:37:02

for a sister that is overweight that needs

00:37:02 --> 00:37:03

to get in shape,

00:37:04 --> 00:37:06

it may be a thinking issue,

00:37:08 --> 00:37:10

not necessarily what you're consuming issue.

00:37:11 --> 00:37:14

It may be a time management issue, not

00:37:14 --> 00:37:15

so much what you're consuming

00:37:15 --> 00:37:17

and or all 3.

00:37:17 --> 00:37:18

Right?

00:37:18 --> 00:37:20

But those are all skill sets. You can

00:37:20 --> 00:37:21

learn how to

00:37:22 --> 00:37:25

question and challenge your thinking. You can learn

00:37:25 --> 00:37:27

how to get better time management.

00:37:27 --> 00:37:30

Right? But none of those skill sets need

00:37:30 --> 00:37:32

to be attached to your worth.

00:37:33 --> 00:37:33

Because,

00:37:34 --> 00:37:34

again,

00:37:35 --> 00:37:38

when you're there attached, whenever you're doing well,

00:37:38 --> 00:37:40

you're gonna bring yourself up. Whenever you're doing

00:37:40 --> 00:37:42

down in terms of not meeting your own

00:37:42 --> 00:37:43

standard

00:37:43 --> 00:37:45

or societal or community or parental

00:37:46 --> 00:37:47

expectations,

00:37:47 --> 00:37:50

you're gonna bring yourself down. So always keep

00:37:50 --> 00:37:51

those separate,

00:37:51 --> 00:37:53

And just look at what are the skill

00:37:53 --> 00:37:56

sets I need to obtain and or enhance

00:37:57 --> 00:37:59

to get the outcomes that I want. And

00:37:59 --> 00:38:02

that has nothing to do with your worth.

00:38:02 --> 00:38:03

Right?

00:38:03 --> 00:38:05

Remember, worth is something separate.

00:38:06 --> 00:38:08

Your value in the Muslim marriage market is

00:38:08 --> 00:38:11

something else. Your value at your profession

00:38:11 --> 00:38:14

is something else. It's not attached to your

00:38:14 --> 00:38:16

worth. So you can perform poorly on the

00:38:16 --> 00:38:17

job interview,

00:38:17 --> 00:38:20

but still be a good person, still be

00:38:20 --> 00:38:21

worthy.

00:38:21 --> 00:38:23

Right? You can go through a divorce

00:38:24 --> 00:38:26

and still be a worthy person.

00:38:27 --> 00:38:29

You just have skill sets in terms of

00:38:29 --> 00:38:31

the divorce that you need to enhance.

00:38:31 --> 00:38:34

So just a a note about self esteem

00:38:34 --> 00:38:35

to keep in mind.

00:38:38 --> 00:38:39

I chose violence.

00:38:44 --> 00:38:45

I don't want peace.

00:38:48 --> 00:38:50

I don't care about that self esteem nonsense.

00:38:50 --> 00:38:50

Okay.

00:38:51 --> 00:38:53

No. I'm kidding. I'm kidding. But for real

00:38:53 --> 00:38:55

for real. Like, I hear where you're coming

00:38:55 --> 00:38:57

from, and I appreciate it. Thank you so

00:38:57 --> 00:38:59

much for being the honey in the situation.

00:39:00 --> 00:39:02

As for me, I don't want peace. Right?

00:39:03 --> 00:39:05

This this particular post that we looked at,

00:39:05 --> 00:39:07

you know, it is this.

00:39:08 --> 00:39:09

So a couple things.

00:39:10 --> 00:39:11

A couple things. This this is a advertisement

00:39:11 --> 00:39:12

for me.

00:39:13 --> 00:39:14

Yeah. And so apologies.

00:39:14 --> 00:39:16

I I missed the comments, and if we

00:39:16 --> 00:39:17

can go back to them very quick. But

00:39:17 --> 00:39:18

just one thing,

00:39:19 --> 00:39:21

because you don't know this, but I I

00:39:21 --> 00:39:23

know this. So the sister that made the

00:39:23 --> 00:39:26

post, this is unfortunately, at that particular time,

00:39:27 --> 00:39:30

a consistent kind of theme and mantra,

00:39:32 --> 00:39:33

from her post.

00:39:33 --> 00:39:36

And, unfortunately, the sister is 40.

00:39:38 --> 00:39:38

Oh.

00:39:39 --> 00:39:41

Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Oh, no.

00:39:42 --> 00:39:44

Yeah. And so and so

00:39:45 --> 00:39:47

you know, the the the the, you know,

00:39:47 --> 00:39:49

the thing about it is, this is why

00:39:49 --> 00:39:51

I think for me, the natural

00:39:52 --> 00:39:54

or the first response that came to my

00:39:54 --> 00:39:55

mind was,

00:39:55 --> 00:39:57

sis, you didn't hit the wall.

00:39:58 --> 00:40:00

You you you can't talk slick like that.

00:40:01 --> 00:40:03

You don't have that type of leverage.

00:40:03 --> 00:40:05

The leverage. But the thing is, can I

00:40:05 --> 00:40:07

just say, though, if it was a 20

00:40:07 --> 00:40:09

year old with this type of mouth,

00:40:10 --> 00:40:12

you better move away from I'm sorry to

00:40:12 --> 00:40:13

say, guys? I'm gonna go into mother mode

00:40:13 --> 00:40:15

here. You better stay away from my son.

00:40:15 --> 00:40:17

Don't come here with that stink attitude. I

00:40:17 --> 00:40:19

don't care whether you're 20 and gorgeous

00:40:20 --> 00:40:22

and 40 and pass the wall. I don't

00:40:22 --> 00:40:25

care. The attitude itself, this one here is

00:40:25 --> 00:40:27

not acceptable as far as I'm concerned. And

00:40:27 --> 00:40:28

any man

00:40:28 --> 00:40:29

who

00:40:29 --> 00:40:30

entertains

00:40:30 --> 00:40:31

this type of energy,

00:40:32 --> 00:40:34

he deserves everything he gets

00:40:35 --> 00:40:36

because this is

00:40:36 --> 00:40:38

cameo. This here wait a second. Can I

00:40:38 --> 00:40:40

just say, this here, if a man says

00:40:40 --> 00:40:41

yes to this,

00:40:42 --> 00:40:43

simplord,

00:40:43 --> 00:40:47

hashtag, hashtag simplord? That's it. You've created

00:40:47 --> 00:40:50

a monster in this woman, and you're going

00:40:50 --> 00:40:51

to be on the treadmill

00:40:52 --> 00:40:54

trying to live up to her demands and

00:40:54 --> 00:40:55

fulfill her needs

00:40:56 --> 00:40:58

and basically tick off all the boxes on

00:40:58 --> 00:40:59

her list for the rest of your life,

00:40:59 --> 00:41:01

and you get you're gonna get what you

00:41:01 --> 00:41:02

deserve. That's what I say.

00:41:03 --> 00:41:04

So,

00:41:04 --> 00:41:06

I I I hear you.

00:41:07 --> 00:41:08

Caveat with that is

00:41:10 --> 00:41:12

an older man with resources

00:41:15 --> 00:41:17

may know how to test that

00:41:18 --> 00:41:20

more than a younger man would.

00:41:20 --> 00:41:21

And for him

00:41:22 --> 00:41:24

Because, look, some men love drama.

00:41:25 --> 00:41:27

So so this is what I mean,

00:41:30 --> 00:41:32

and this is where the leverage comes in

00:41:33 --> 00:41:36

because she has what some older men want,

00:41:36 --> 00:41:37

which is youth and beauty.

00:41:38 --> 00:41:40

So he may have a conversation or 2

00:41:40 --> 00:41:42

with her to see, is this really what

00:41:42 --> 00:41:43

she believes,

00:41:44 --> 00:41:45

or is this just her regurgitating

00:41:46 --> 00:41:48

what she's constantly heard?

00:41:49 --> 00:41:51

Young and naive, she doesn't know.

00:41:51 --> 00:41:54

A man with resources and experience will know

00:41:54 --> 00:41:56

how the gift of gab, he'll know how

00:41:56 --> 00:41:58

to have a conversation or 2 and see

00:41:58 --> 00:41:59

and and decipher that.

00:42:00 --> 00:42:01

But he will

00:42:02 --> 00:42:04

allocate some time and energy to figuring that

00:42:04 --> 00:42:05

out

00:42:05 --> 00:42:08

because of the exchange for youth and beauty.

00:42:08 --> 00:42:10

You'll give her the time. He'll he'll make

00:42:10 --> 00:42:13

the time to see is it really as

00:42:13 --> 00:42:14

bad as all that. He'll give her a

00:42:14 --> 00:42:16

chance to prove, you know, kind of this.

00:42:16 --> 00:42:18

Is it really like that? Whereas

00:42:19 --> 00:42:22

But you 40, 35 plus, I ain't doing

00:42:22 --> 00:42:22

that.

00:42:23 --> 00:42:24

You know what I mean? Because you can't

00:42:24 --> 00:42:25

exchange what he needs.

00:42:26 --> 00:42:28

Right? You don't have it.

00:42:28 --> 00:42:30

And that's, you know, that's the wall. And

00:42:30 --> 00:42:33

hence, that's what that's why it came to

00:42:33 --> 00:42:34

my mind is because if you

00:42:35 --> 00:42:36

if you didn't hit the wall, you don't

00:42:36 --> 00:42:39

have that leverage. And I think I think

00:42:39 --> 00:42:41

I think this is a new concept for

00:42:41 --> 00:42:42

Muslim women.

00:42:43 --> 00:42:44

I think it's a

00:42:44 --> 00:42:46

definitely a a huge

00:42:46 --> 00:42:48

new concept. No? I disagree.

00:42:49 --> 00:42:50

I disagree. And you know why?

00:42:51 --> 00:42:54

Previous generations knew exactly what the war was

00:42:54 --> 00:42:56

and what it looked like. Agreed

00:42:56 --> 00:42:58

you got your aunties guys put it in

00:42:58 --> 00:43:00

the chat. Y'all know what I'm talking about

00:43:00 --> 00:43:02

the aunties the grandmother. When are you going

00:43:02 --> 00:43:05

to find someone Ah, I'm sure getting old.

00:43:05 --> 00:43:06

When are we going to see some grandbabies?

00:43:06 --> 00:43:08

You know, it really that, you know, I

00:43:08 --> 00:43:09

would say

00:43:10 --> 00:43:13

15 years ago, 20 years ago, people would

00:43:13 --> 00:43:15

have been on your case to say why

00:43:15 --> 00:43:17

are you not married yet? Right? They knew

00:43:17 --> 00:43:20

that there is a window and that there

00:43:20 --> 00:43:23

is an optimal time and it's like at

00:43:23 --> 00:43:25

a certain time we just lost that and

00:43:25 --> 00:43:26

everybody's like

00:43:27 --> 00:43:27

Study

00:43:27 --> 00:43:28

get your masters

00:43:29 --> 00:43:30

have your career,

00:43:30 --> 00:43:30

and

00:43:31 --> 00:43:33

then you'll find someone. It's okay. You still

00:43:33 --> 00:43:35

have time. You're 35. You still have time.

00:43:35 --> 00:43:38

You know what I'm saying? That's new. That

00:43:38 --> 00:43:40

was never the case. Like,

00:43:40 --> 00:43:42

I I wanna say even 15, 20 years

00:43:42 --> 00:43:44

ago, it wasn't the case. That's a very

00:43:44 --> 00:43:46

new thing. And, of course, you know, the

00:43:46 --> 00:43:49

wall slaps. It hits hard. You know what

00:43:49 --> 00:43:51

I'm saying? So now the women who were

00:43:51 --> 00:43:51

told

00:43:52 --> 00:43:52

you've got time

00:43:53 --> 00:43:55

have hit the wall, and that's why they

00:43:55 --> 00:43:58

realize that, oh, so those old fashioned aunties

00:43:58 --> 00:44:01

that we thought were toxic, that we thought

00:44:01 --> 00:44:02

were just trying to make us feel bad

00:44:02 --> 00:44:04

about ourselves and trying to make us ashamed

00:44:04 --> 00:44:06

they actually knew what they were talking about.

00:44:06 --> 00:44:07

SubhanAllah.

00:44:07 --> 00:44:10

And that that's kinda what I'm alluding to.

00:44:10 --> 00:44:13

That acceptance that acceptance is new. I think

00:44:13 --> 00:44:15

that acceptance is now is

00:44:16 --> 00:44:17

is is happening.

00:44:18 --> 00:44:18

Whereas before, it

00:44:19 --> 00:44:21

didn't. And I think before, it was

00:44:21 --> 00:44:25

societal pressure, cultural pressure that you adhered to

00:44:25 --> 00:44:25

the wall

00:44:26 --> 00:44:27

without really understanding,

00:44:27 --> 00:44:30

right, what the wall was. Now I think,

00:44:30 --> 00:44:32

you know, sisters are learning what the wall

00:44:32 --> 00:44:32

is,

00:44:34 --> 00:44:36

and accepting that reality. But, unfortunately,

00:44:38 --> 00:44:39

a lot of them, they've passed it. I

00:44:39 --> 00:44:42

saw a comment. A sister says, what does

00:44:42 --> 00:44:43

age got to do with it?

00:44:45 --> 00:44:47

I don't know whether it's a a joking

00:44:47 --> 00:44:49

comment, a sarcastic comment, or is it actually

00:44:49 --> 00:44:51

a genuine question. Sis, let us know in

00:44:51 --> 00:44:53

the chat if this is a genuine question.

00:44:53 --> 00:44:54

If it is,

00:44:54 --> 00:44:56

more than happy to to explain and break

00:44:56 --> 00:44:57

that down. Because seriously,

00:44:58 --> 00:45:00

I I remember when I first had a

00:45:00 --> 00:45:02

conversation and I I mentioned for the first

00:45:02 --> 00:45:03

time publicly,

00:45:03 --> 00:45:06

this issue of being older in the marriage

00:45:06 --> 00:45:08

market. Right? Being older, being divorced, you know,

00:45:08 --> 00:45:11

maybe sisters she's put on weight, etcetera. Right?

00:45:11 --> 00:45:12

And I was accused

00:45:12 --> 00:45:14

of being ageist,

00:45:15 --> 00:45:15

ableist,

00:45:16 --> 00:45:18

and I was called a misogynist.

00:45:19 --> 00:45:21

Right? Got it all. All yeah. I got

00:45:21 --> 00:45:23

I got I got the exact I got

00:45:23 --> 00:45:27

the 3 bingo. You know, ageist, ableist, misogynist,

00:45:27 --> 00:45:27

fatphobic

00:45:28 --> 00:45:30

was another one, so I got 4, actually.

00:45:30 --> 00:45:30

Right?

00:45:31 --> 00:45:31

And

00:45:32 --> 00:45:34

the the so so so there are some

00:45:34 --> 00:45:37

people who have kind of drunk the Kool

00:45:37 --> 00:45:37

Aid

00:45:38 --> 00:45:39

and genuinely

00:45:40 --> 00:45:41

do not think

00:45:42 --> 00:45:44

that age is anything but a number

00:45:45 --> 00:45:46

when it comes to marriage.

00:45:47 --> 00:45:49

And that it should not make a difference

00:45:50 --> 00:45:53

how old you are, how how you look,

00:45:53 --> 00:45:57

your weight, your health, your marriage status, whether

00:45:57 --> 00:45:58

you have kids or not, they genuinely

00:45:59 --> 00:45:59

believe

00:45:59 --> 00:46:02

that in a perfect world, it is possible

00:46:02 --> 00:46:04

for none of these things to matter, that

00:46:04 --> 00:46:07

they shouldn't matter, and a good man, a

00:46:07 --> 00:46:08

real man

00:46:08 --> 00:46:12

will not allow any of those factors to

00:46:12 --> 00:46:14

influence his decision. That is a story they're

00:46:14 --> 00:46:17

telling themselves. That's the story out there. So

00:46:17 --> 00:46:20

if it's a genuine question, let's answer it

00:46:20 --> 00:46:23

because there are people who genuinely feel like,

00:46:23 --> 00:46:25

why are you guys talking about 35 year

00:46:25 --> 00:46:27

olds? What's wrong with being 30 5 and

00:46:27 --> 00:46:29

wanting to get married? What's wrong with being

00:46:29 --> 00:46:31

a bit overweight or very overweight for that

00:46:31 --> 00:46:33

matter? Some men like big women. Do you

00:46:33 --> 00:46:35

know what I'm saying? So there is definitely

00:46:36 --> 00:46:37

a case of people genuinely

00:46:38 --> 00:46:40

confused. Like, what are you guys on about?

00:46:40 --> 00:46:41

Like, since when was this a thing? The

00:46:41 --> 00:46:44

sister So The sister is saying it's a

00:46:44 --> 00:46:46

general it's it's a real Genuine question. Yeah.

00:46:46 --> 00:46:49

Genuine question. She really wants to know. Yep.

00:46:52 --> 00:46:54

Do you want me or you Oh, yeah.

00:46:54 --> 00:46:55

No. You go ahead.

00:46:56 --> 00:46:59

So, sis, the the reality is this. In

00:46:59 --> 00:47:02

in in the Muslim marriage market, what men

00:47:02 --> 00:47:03

are looking for

00:47:05 --> 00:47:07

initially, is youth and and beauty, which is

00:47:07 --> 00:47:10

why I've made a post before where where

00:47:10 --> 00:47:12

in that I I said that the barista

00:47:12 --> 00:47:13

at the local coffee

00:47:14 --> 00:47:17

shop has just of a chance, a shot

00:47:17 --> 00:47:19

at getting a capable

00:47:19 --> 00:47:21

resourceful Muslim man

00:47:21 --> 00:47:23

as the sister with the PhD,

00:47:24 --> 00:47:25

if not more.

00:47:25 --> 00:47:28

Because she's conditioned due to her work to

00:47:28 --> 00:47:29

be agreeable.

00:47:30 --> 00:47:30

Right?

00:47:31 --> 00:47:32

To not be confrontational.

00:47:33 --> 00:47:35

Right? So these are the things. And, obviously,

00:47:35 --> 00:47:36

in most cases,

00:47:37 --> 00:47:38

if she's hired to be a barista or

00:47:38 --> 00:47:40

a waitress or something of that sort, she

00:47:40 --> 00:47:43

probably is a bit of a looker. Right?

00:47:43 --> 00:47:43

She's attractive,

00:47:44 --> 00:47:45

not all, but most times.

00:47:46 --> 00:47:46

Right?

00:47:47 --> 00:47:49

And so with that being said,

00:47:50 --> 00:47:52

she checks off a lot of the boxes.

00:47:52 --> 00:47:53

She's attractive.

00:47:53 --> 00:47:54

She's agreeable.

00:47:55 --> 00:47:56

She's kind.

00:47:56 --> 00:47:57

She's compliant.

00:47:58 --> 00:47:59

Right?

00:47:59 --> 00:48:00

So

00:48:00 --> 00:48:02

What about the age, though? That's what she's

00:48:02 --> 00:48:06

asking about. Right. So those factors are there.

00:48:06 --> 00:48:09

And so the first variable, the attractiveness,

00:48:09 --> 00:48:11

the reality is

00:48:12 --> 00:48:13

women oftentimes

00:48:14 --> 00:48:15

their youth and their beauty

00:48:15 --> 00:48:17

is heightened.

00:48:17 --> 00:48:18

It's at its peak

00:48:19 --> 00:48:20

between 18 to 25,

00:48:22 --> 00:48:24

preferably probably around 23, 24.

00:48:26 --> 00:48:28

And so that starts to decline with age.

00:48:29 --> 00:48:30

So that's why age

00:48:30 --> 00:48:31

is so important.

00:48:33 --> 00:48:35

One of the reasons. One of the reasons.

00:48:36 --> 00:48:37

Right. And and so that's why I gave

00:48:37 --> 00:48:39

you all of those things. Right? The attractiveness.

00:48:39 --> 00:48:40

Right? The real.

00:48:41 --> 00:48:42

Right? The kindness.

00:48:42 --> 00:48:45

Right? Those those are all variables that men

00:48:45 --> 00:48:47

look for. But one of the initial things

00:48:47 --> 00:48:49

that men look for is attraction,

00:48:50 --> 00:48:51

youth, and beauty.

00:48:53 --> 00:48:54

Can I just add as well, sis, for

00:48:54 --> 00:48:56

those of you who are not familiar with

00:48:56 --> 00:48:57

this whole conversation?

00:48:58 --> 00:48:59

Youth denotes the beauty

00:49:00 --> 00:49:01

and the agreeableness

00:49:01 --> 00:49:03

and the sense of

00:49:04 --> 00:49:07

still having that innocence. And I want to

00:49:07 --> 00:49:10

use innocence in the best way possible. Okay?

00:49:10 --> 00:49:12

Because people can often twist that as well.

00:49:12 --> 00:49:13

I was like, oh, you just want someone

00:49:13 --> 00:49:16

who I can control. Right? Because that comes

00:49:16 --> 00:49:16

out too.

00:49:17 --> 00:49:20

But really, it's a case of somebody who

00:49:20 --> 00:49:22

has only lived a small amount of life

00:49:23 --> 00:49:25

and hasn't been burnt too many times,

00:49:25 --> 00:49:29

hasn't had too many adventures or issues or

00:49:29 --> 00:49:31

men or whatever the case may be

00:49:32 --> 00:49:34

from the data that we're seeing is more

00:49:34 --> 00:49:36

attractive to most men because

00:49:37 --> 00:49:38

it's not gonna give them as much of

00:49:38 --> 00:49:40

a headache. And I think we know because

00:49:40 --> 00:49:41

as women,

00:49:41 --> 00:49:43

as we get older, just as human beings

00:49:43 --> 00:49:44

anyway, as we get older,

00:49:45 --> 00:49:46

we become

00:49:46 --> 00:49:48

more and more,

00:49:48 --> 00:49:49

rigid.

00:49:49 --> 00:49:52

Right? We become most of us. Okay? We

00:49:52 --> 00:49:53

become more set in our ways.

00:49:54 --> 00:49:56

The the better we know ourselves,

00:49:56 --> 00:49:58

right? You know, that's why I always say

00:49:58 --> 00:50:01

that it's it's ironic actually that sisters 35

00:50:01 --> 00:50:02

plus

00:50:02 --> 00:50:06

women 35 plus actually have a longer list

00:50:06 --> 00:50:08

than women who are 22, 23, 24.

00:50:09 --> 00:50:11

The reason they have a longer list is

00:50:11 --> 00:50:12

because they've lived more.

00:50:13 --> 00:50:14

They've had more experience.

00:50:15 --> 00:50:16

They've been burnt more.

00:50:17 --> 00:50:20

They've probably done more things. They are clearer

00:50:20 --> 00:50:22

on exactly what they want, so they basically

00:50:22 --> 00:50:26

end up kind of getting really precise on

00:50:26 --> 00:50:28

what they're looking for. Right? Really super precise

00:50:28 --> 00:50:30

on what they're looking for. And,

00:50:31 --> 00:50:33

that means that the pool is it shrinks.

00:50:33 --> 00:50:35

Right? It gets smaller because they're like, I

00:50:35 --> 00:50:37

can't have a man who does this, and

00:50:37 --> 00:50:38

I don't want a man who does that.

00:50:38 --> 00:50:40

And he has to have this because in

00:50:40 --> 00:50:41

the last relationship, he didn't. And then this

00:50:41 --> 00:50:43

you know, so there's all of these variables.

00:50:43 --> 00:50:43

Anyway,

00:50:44 --> 00:50:46

coming back to the, to the original question.

00:50:46 --> 00:50:50

The youth side of things impact the, the

00:50:50 --> 00:50:50

agreeableness

00:50:50 --> 00:50:52

and the beauty, but also

00:50:53 --> 00:50:54

the fertility.

00:50:54 --> 00:50:56

And we can't deny that.

00:50:56 --> 00:50:58

For a man who wants to have a

00:50:58 --> 00:50:59

family,

00:50:59 --> 00:51:01

who wants to marry and have children,

00:51:02 --> 00:51:05

a woman who is younger is undeniably,

00:51:05 --> 00:51:06

in general,

00:51:06 --> 00:51:09

more fertile and has more energy and a

00:51:09 --> 00:51:11

longer period of time to have babies.

00:51:12 --> 00:51:14

That's one of the reasons why all of

00:51:14 --> 00:51:16

us where we came from,

00:51:16 --> 00:51:19

Girls would get married late teens early 20s,

00:51:20 --> 00:51:21

right? Because those societies

00:51:21 --> 00:51:24

all valued having children and for most of

00:51:24 --> 00:51:25

our societies

00:51:26 --> 00:51:28

they valued having many children. And if you

00:51:28 --> 00:51:30

wanna have many children, you need to be

00:51:30 --> 00:51:32

you need to make the most of your

00:51:32 --> 00:51:35

fertility window, basically. Right? So, sis,

00:51:35 --> 00:51:36

an answer to your question,

00:51:37 --> 00:51:39

you may look amazing at 40,

00:51:41 --> 00:51:43

but your amazing at 40 is not comparable

00:51:44 --> 00:51:47

to somebody's 22, even your own 22. Right?

00:51:47 --> 00:51:49

And it's not just about how you look

00:51:49 --> 00:51:51

on the surface because, mashaAllah, there are some

00:51:51 --> 00:51:54

40 year olds who are extremely well kept.

00:51:54 --> 00:51:56

But the reality is the biology doesn't lie.

00:51:57 --> 00:51:59

We have fewer eggs. We're on our way

00:51:59 --> 00:52:02

to menopause actually at that stage, and that

00:52:02 --> 00:52:05

means something to a man who is looking

00:52:05 --> 00:52:07

for a woman that he's gonna build a

00:52:07 --> 00:52:08

family with. Now

00:52:09 --> 00:52:11

If a man is not looking for a

00:52:11 --> 00:52:13

woman to have many children with right if

00:52:13 --> 00:52:15

he's mean not really interested in having kids

00:52:15 --> 00:52:17

Maybe he's done that already or whatever

00:52:18 --> 00:52:20

age may not be a factor for him,

00:52:20 --> 00:52:23

certainly with regards to fertility. Right? He could

00:52:23 --> 00:52:26

be open to an older sister because his

00:52:26 --> 00:52:27

requirements have changed.

00:52:28 --> 00:52:30

He may want a sister who's slightly older

00:52:31 --> 00:52:31

because

00:52:31 --> 00:52:34

for maybe for intellectual reasons or professional reasons

00:52:34 --> 00:52:37

or emotional reasons or whatever. Right? But he

00:52:37 --> 00:52:39

is, I would argue,

00:52:39 --> 00:52:40

among the minority

00:52:41 --> 00:52:42

of men

00:52:42 --> 00:52:44

whose priorities are different.

00:52:44 --> 00:52:48

Majority of men, first time marriage, they're looking

00:52:48 --> 00:52:49

for someone who's going to be the mother

00:52:49 --> 00:52:52

of their kids, and the younger woman will

00:52:52 --> 00:52:52

always

00:52:53 --> 00:52:56

win when compared with an older woman. It's

00:52:56 --> 00:52:56

just biology.

00:52:57 --> 00:52:59

Have I done justice to that, brother Nasrat?

00:52:59 --> 00:53:01

And let me know in the chat, guys,

00:53:01 --> 00:53:02

what your thoughts are.

00:53:02 --> 00:53:04

No. I think you did, and I think

00:53:04 --> 00:53:06

we got a great hashtag for the show,

00:53:06 --> 00:53:08

biology don't lie.

00:53:10 --> 00:53:11

You know what I mean? Yeah. So for

00:53:11 --> 00:53:12

the sister, Ayesha,

00:53:12 --> 00:53:14

feedback, what do you think about our response?

00:53:18 --> 00:53:20

Right. I'm going through the chat here. Can

00:53:20 --> 00:53:23

I see one other point one other point?

00:53:24 --> 00:53:26

What they were saying in this about what

00:53:26 --> 00:53:27

I said, men tend to prefer a younger

00:53:27 --> 00:53:30

woman who can get into his frame. Right?

00:53:30 --> 00:53:31

Who can be flexible

00:53:32 --> 00:53:33

and who can

00:53:33 --> 00:53:36

be flexible in this new surrounding, in his

00:53:36 --> 00:53:38

home, in his frame. Whereas a woman who

00:53:38 --> 00:53:40

gets older, she becomes set in her ways

00:53:40 --> 00:53:42

and this can become challenging. And guys, listen.

00:53:42 --> 00:53:44

I'm not gonna be as you know me

00:53:44 --> 00:53:47

already right. I'm gonna keep it 100 with

00:53:47 --> 00:53:48

you.

00:53:48 --> 00:53:50

I am 45 but hamdulillah. I mean I'm

00:53:50 --> 00:53:53

grateful for every year on this earth. There

00:53:53 --> 00:53:54

is no way.

00:53:55 --> 00:53:56

45? 45? 45.

00:53:57 --> 00:53:59

It is 45. Thank you. Okay. Apologies. We're

00:53:59 --> 00:54:02

not there yet. So for at 45,

00:54:03 --> 00:54:04

my mindset,

00:54:05 --> 00:54:07

my manners, my habits,

00:54:07 --> 00:54:08

my my expectations,

00:54:09 --> 00:54:10

nothing like I was when I got married

00:54:10 --> 00:54:11

when I was 22.

00:54:12 --> 00:54:14

Right? What I was able to cope with

00:54:14 --> 00:54:16

at 22, what I thought was fun and

00:54:16 --> 00:54:19

adventurous and cool at 22. Oh, yeah. Ain't

00:54:19 --> 00:54:21

nobody got time for that. Like, no. You

00:54:21 --> 00:54:23

know what I'm saying? And that's the reality,

00:54:23 --> 00:54:25

right, that most of us

00:54:25 --> 00:54:27

by the time you get to a certain

00:54:27 --> 00:54:29

stage, you are set in your ways. And

00:54:29 --> 00:54:30

it's difficult.

00:54:31 --> 00:54:34

You can do it. You can unlearn things.

00:54:34 --> 00:54:37

You can learn new things. You can choose

00:54:37 --> 00:54:39

differently. Right? But it is a struggle.

00:54:39 --> 00:54:42

If you're going to marry somebody at that

00:54:42 --> 00:54:44

age and try to get into their frame,

00:54:45 --> 00:54:47

it's it's it's like this. Right? And especially,

00:54:47 --> 00:54:49

you know, for sisters who have been independent

00:54:50 --> 00:54:51

for a long time have maybe been looking

00:54:51 --> 00:54:53

after themselves for a while,

00:54:53 --> 00:54:55

a man coming along,

00:54:55 --> 00:54:56

Yanny,

00:54:57 --> 00:54:59

it's tough. It's tough. So first time marriage

00:54:59 --> 00:55:01

maybe wouldn't be the first choice, I think.

00:55:01 --> 00:55:03

Everyone should get married, Yanny. We on this

00:55:03 --> 00:55:06

channel, we stan early marriage. Okay? So that's

00:55:06 --> 00:55:07

what we're doing.

00:55:07 --> 00:55:10

Yeah. Yeah. Definitely. Definitely. And I and I

00:55:10 --> 00:55:12

think one of the things for me, it's

00:55:12 --> 00:55:14

that emotional piece.

00:55:14 --> 00:55:17

It's that emotional regulation piece because the more

00:55:17 --> 00:55:20

challenges and traumas that you've gone through and

00:55:20 --> 00:55:22

heartaches that you've gone through in life, it

00:55:22 --> 00:55:23

leaves its residue.

00:55:24 --> 00:55:27

And if you are the typical woman, just

00:55:27 --> 00:55:29

like the typical man, you haven't learned how

00:55:29 --> 00:55:32

to regulate your emotions. And so as a

00:55:32 --> 00:55:33

man who's put in work

00:55:34 --> 00:55:36

to build up the capability

00:55:36 --> 00:55:39

to have resources to be able to provide,

00:55:40 --> 00:55:41

why would I take

00:55:42 --> 00:55:45

the chance on someone who's had more challenges

00:55:45 --> 00:55:45

in life

00:55:46 --> 00:55:49

when I could easily take someone who's had

00:55:49 --> 00:55:49

less

00:55:50 --> 00:55:50

challenges,

00:55:51 --> 00:55:52

less the opportunity

00:55:53 --> 00:55:55

of there being more residual

00:55:56 --> 00:55:56

emotional

00:55:56 --> 00:55:59

damage there with an older sister is there

00:56:00 --> 00:56:01

versus someone

00:56:01 --> 00:56:04

who has less experience in life, who's been

00:56:04 --> 00:56:05

more sheltered,

00:56:05 --> 00:56:07

who is more coachable.

00:56:07 --> 00:56:10

And I know that word sets off a

00:56:10 --> 00:56:11

number of sisters,

00:56:12 --> 00:56:13

but that's just the reality.

00:56:15 --> 00:56:17

Men want women that are coachable.

00:56:18 --> 00:56:20

If she's gaining on his team

00:56:21 --> 00:56:22

and following his lead,

00:56:23 --> 00:56:24

then

00:56:24 --> 00:56:26

you want someone that's that's

00:56:27 --> 00:56:27

receptive

00:56:28 --> 00:56:28

to

00:56:29 --> 00:56:31

being coached, being led.

00:56:33 --> 00:56:34

But if you have a problem with the

00:56:34 --> 00:56:37

leadership aspect and the husband being the leader,

00:56:37 --> 00:56:39

then you're gonna have a whole, you know,

00:56:39 --> 00:56:40

issue with this whole,

00:56:41 --> 00:56:43

men wanting someone who's younger

00:56:43 --> 00:56:44

and,

00:56:46 --> 00:56:47

and more attractive.

00:56:48 --> 00:56:51

Guys, I just wanna speak on this, please,

00:56:51 --> 00:56:53

Inshallah, because my the chat is going absolutely

00:56:53 --> 00:56:54

crazy.

00:56:55 --> 00:56:58

So sis said, I know looks are important,

00:56:58 --> 00:57:00

but shouldn't be the most important thing to

00:57:00 --> 00:57:01

look for when looking for a wife. Look,

00:57:01 --> 00:57:03

we know this, guys. Let's let's we're all

00:57:03 --> 00:57:06

adults here. Okay? We're all adults here. Ain't

00:57:06 --> 00:57:08

nobody wifeing you up in the in the

00:57:08 --> 00:57:10

Muslim community anyway just because you look good.

00:57:10 --> 00:57:12

Like, there's there's, like, other factors.

00:57:13 --> 00:57:13

But

00:57:17 --> 00:57:17

we

00:57:18 --> 00:57:18

all know

00:57:19 --> 00:57:21

when we have leverage.

00:57:22 --> 00:57:24

We all know. Right? And every one of

00:57:24 --> 00:57:24

you,

00:57:25 --> 00:57:28

you probably have your own leverage. Right?

00:57:29 --> 00:57:30

I may be, for example,

00:57:31 --> 00:57:33

light skinned. Right?

00:57:34 --> 00:57:36

If I'm in a society or a community

00:57:37 --> 00:57:38

that favors

00:57:38 --> 00:57:39

dark women,

00:57:40 --> 00:57:41

I'm not gonna like that.

00:57:42 --> 00:57:44

Look at brother Nasir. For those of you

00:57:44 --> 00:57:46

who are asking, he's African American.

00:57:47 --> 00:57:50

In African American culture in general nowadays, what

00:57:50 --> 00:57:52

do they all say they're looking for? Tall,

00:57:52 --> 00:57:52

dark, and handsome.

00:57:53 --> 00:57:53

Right?

00:57:55 --> 00:57:57

So I'm gonna take out of it because

00:57:57 --> 00:57:59

he's a man and men don't tend to

00:57:59 --> 00:58:01

do this. Right? But as women, we do.

00:58:01 --> 00:58:01

Right?

00:58:01 --> 00:58:03

The point is that

00:58:03 --> 00:58:06

I even if I'm in a situation where

00:58:06 --> 00:58:08

I'm at a disadvantage because of my skin

00:58:08 --> 00:58:10

color, because I'm light and everybody wants dark,

00:58:12 --> 00:58:14

It doesn't make sense for me to rage

00:58:14 --> 00:58:17

against the fact that everybody wants a dark

00:58:17 --> 00:58:17

system.

00:58:18 --> 00:58:20

That's just not what I have in terms

00:58:20 --> 00:58:23

of leverage. Right? There are communities where my

00:58:23 --> 00:58:26

skin is preferred. Right? If I'm a woman

00:58:26 --> 00:58:27

who wears in the car,

00:58:29 --> 00:58:30

if I go to a community where brothers

00:58:30 --> 00:58:33

are not checking for that, right, they they

00:58:33 --> 00:58:34

they they don't wanna marry a sister who

00:58:34 --> 00:58:35

wears in the car,

00:58:36 --> 00:58:37

It doesn't make sense for me to attack

00:58:37 --> 00:58:39

those brothers and say, but you should. You

00:58:39 --> 00:58:41

should want a sister who wears nakar because

00:58:41 --> 00:58:43

the fact is that they don't. And for

00:58:43 --> 00:58:45

most of us, the reason that we

00:58:45 --> 00:58:46

feel

00:58:46 --> 00:58:47

some kind of way

00:58:48 --> 00:58:49

about people's preferences

00:58:50 --> 00:58:52

is because we know that we might not

00:58:52 --> 00:58:54

be their preference in that area.

00:58:55 --> 00:58:55

Right?

00:58:56 --> 00:58:58

It's it's within us. We feel maybe I

00:58:58 --> 00:58:59

don't have the looks.

00:59:00 --> 00:59:03

Right? I don't compare well to this one

00:59:03 --> 00:59:05

or that one. Right? I may not have

00:59:05 --> 00:59:07

the fit body. I may not have, you

00:59:07 --> 00:59:09

know, the the the level of religiosity, of

00:59:09 --> 00:59:11

course, depending on, you know, the the marketplace

00:59:11 --> 00:59:12

that you're in. Right?

00:59:13 --> 00:59:15

But recognize that that's what's happening.

00:59:15 --> 00:59:18

Recognize that what is happening is that you're

00:59:18 --> 00:59:19

getting triggered

00:59:19 --> 00:59:20

by this requirement

00:59:21 --> 00:59:23

because you feel somehow that you don't fit

00:59:23 --> 00:59:26

that. But remember that there's levels.

00:59:26 --> 00:59:28

And when it comes to looks,

00:59:28 --> 00:59:31

men, I think, will admit, right, that they

00:59:31 --> 00:59:34

find a wide variety of women attractive.

00:59:34 --> 00:59:36

Right? It's not just the whole so called

00:59:36 --> 00:59:39

8, nines, and tens. Right? People will find

00:59:39 --> 00:59:42

a broad range of women attractive.

00:59:42 --> 00:59:44

So it isn't like there's one beauty standard

00:59:44 --> 00:59:46

and all the men are for that one

00:59:46 --> 00:59:47

beauty standard.

00:59:47 --> 00:59:49

Brother, can you speak to this, please? Because

00:59:49 --> 00:59:52

we we keep saying beauty and attractiveness.

00:59:53 --> 00:59:55

But as a man and maybe the brothers

00:59:55 --> 00:59:56

who are here as well, can you just

00:59:56 --> 00:59:58

give that some nuance for the sisters in

00:59:58 --> 00:59:59

the chat

01:00:00 --> 01:00:01

and the sisters who are watching?

01:00:02 --> 01:00:03

No. I I think I think

01:00:04 --> 01:00:06

I think this the post prior to this

01:00:06 --> 01:00:08

one speaks to it. It says,

01:00:10 --> 01:00:13

y'all always talking about the younger women. What

01:00:13 --> 01:00:15

about women who want companionship?

01:00:15 --> 01:00:18

And I think that's an important point. I

01:00:18 --> 01:00:19

think some men will

01:00:23 --> 01:00:23

value

01:00:24 --> 01:00:24

companionship,

01:00:25 --> 01:00:28

right, with someone who's mature

01:00:29 --> 01:00:29

intellectually

01:00:30 --> 01:00:31

and emotionally.

01:00:31 --> 01:00:33

Right? That's a level of companionship that a

01:00:33 --> 01:00:35

man of resources and

01:00:37 --> 01:00:39

a capable man will value.

01:00:40 --> 01:00:41

That doesn't mean he's gonna marry you just

01:00:41 --> 01:00:44

for that, but that's another thing that you

01:00:44 --> 01:00:47

can have that you can double down on

01:00:47 --> 01:00:48

or use

01:00:48 --> 01:00:48

enhance

01:00:49 --> 01:00:51

to bring to the table because you've lost

01:00:52 --> 01:00:54

that other reality, I. E,

01:00:54 --> 01:00:55

the youthfulness,

01:00:55 --> 01:00:56

the beauty.

01:00:57 --> 01:00:59

Right? You're still attractive, but you're not as

01:00:59 --> 01:01:01

attractive and as beautiful as you were when

01:01:01 --> 01:01:01

you were

01:01:02 --> 01:01:04

18 through 23, 24.

01:01:04 --> 01:01:05

So acknowledging

01:01:05 --> 01:01:06

that

01:01:06 --> 01:01:09

and finding out what are the other areas

01:01:09 --> 01:01:10

that I can,

01:01:11 --> 01:01:11

enhance

01:01:12 --> 01:01:13

that men look for

01:01:14 --> 01:01:16

versus trying to fight against it.

01:01:17 --> 01:01:18

Right?

01:01:18 --> 01:01:20

So I think that's the the route for

01:01:20 --> 01:01:21

sisters who

01:01:22 --> 01:01:24

because I see in the comments, a number

01:01:24 --> 01:01:25

of sisters are saying, so what about us

01:01:25 --> 01:01:26

who are older?

01:01:27 --> 01:01:27

Right?

01:01:28 --> 01:01:28

And

01:01:28 --> 01:01:30

for you that are older,

01:01:31 --> 01:01:32

what you do is you double down on

01:01:32 --> 01:01:35

the other things that men may find attractive,

01:01:35 --> 01:01:37

and that's what you need to,

01:01:38 --> 01:01:40

to learn. Put your time and energy into

01:01:40 --> 01:01:41

that.

01:01:42 --> 01:01:43

Follow channels,

01:01:43 --> 01:01:46

Lexus and Iemas, that are speaking about that.

01:01:46 --> 01:01:48

What are those other things that I can

01:01:48 --> 01:01:49

bring to the table

01:01:49 --> 01:01:51

and not think that I am the table?

01:01:54 --> 01:01:56

I wanna speak to this, this point, sister

01:01:56 --> 01:01:58

Munaju Zaghl al Haylan.

01:01:59 --> 01:02:00

Okay. So

01:02:00 --> 01:02:03

the theory goes like this, guys. This is

01:02:03 --> 01:02:04

just a theory.

01:02:04 --> 01:02:06

We know we're far from the theory, but

01:02:06 --> 01:02:07

the theory is this.

01:02:08 --> 01:02:09

You grow up,

01:02:10 --> 01:02:12

you you and your your brothers and sisters

01:02:12 --> 01:02:14

are raised, okay, to fulfill the roles that

01:02:14 --> 01:02:15

you will fulfill

01:02:16 --> 01:02:18

in later on in life as women and

01:02:18 --> 01:02:18

as men.

01:02:19 --> 01:02:20

You get married young

01:02:21 --> 01:02:24

to a good man, to a good woman

01:02:25 --> 01:02:26

with the support of your families.

01:02:27 --> 01:02:28

You have children.

01:02:28 --> 01:02:29

The husband works

01:02:30 --> 01:02:32

and does his best to provide for his

01:02:32 --> 01:02:34

family. The woman looks after the children as

01:02:34 --> 01:02:35

best she can.

01:02:36 --> 01:02:37

The husband and wife

01:02:38 --> 01:02:40

are committed to the institution that they've created

01:02:40 --> 01:02:43

and they stay together. They see it through

01:02:43 --> 01:02:45

to the end. Right? They see it through

01:02:45 --> 01:02:47

for the sake of the next generation.

01:02:48 --> 01:02:51

And then when that next generation reaches adulthood

01:02:51 --> 01:02:54

and steps into their maturity, this cycle repeats

01:02:54 --> 01:02:57

itself. And this time the children are available

01:02:57 --> 01:02:59

later on to then take care of the

01:02:59 --> 01:03:00

parents,

01:03:00 --> 01:03:03

right? So they get married, they have children

01:03:03 --> 01:03:04

and the grandparents

01:03:04 --> 01:03:05

who are now grandparents,

01:03:06 --> 01:03:08

they get to see the family continuing before

01:03:08 --> 01:03:09

they return to Allah.

01:03:10 --> 01:03:11

That's a theory.

01:03:12 --> 01:03:13

Okay? That's

01:03:13 --> 01:03:15

the the general timeline.

01:03:16 --> 01:03:16

Obviously,

01:03:17 --> 01:03:18

there has been

01:03:19 --> 01:03:20

there have been breaches,

01:03:21 --> 01:03:22

many, many breaches,

01:03:23 --> 01:03:24

right, to that continuum.

01:03:25 --> 01:03:27

1st is putting off marriage.

01:03:28 --> 01:03:31

Another is having relationships outside of marriage before

01:03:31 --> 01:03:32

marriage. Right?

01:03:32 --> 01:03:33

Marrying later,

01:03:34 --> 01:03:37

potentially marrying somebody, you know, the families or

01:03:37 --> 01:03:39

maybe not as supportive or whatever the case

01:03:39 --> 01:03:39

may be.

01:03:40 --> 01:03:42

People quitting on their marriages.

01:03:43 --> 01:03:43

Right?

01:03:44 --> 01:03:46

The reason we have so many and I

01:03:46 --> 01:03:47

think and and no. Wait. Wait. I wanna

01:03:47 --> 01:03:48

say 2

01:03:48 --> 01:03:51

things. Men not fulfilling their role,

01:03:51 --> 01:03:53

women not fulfilling their role,

01:03:53 --> 01:03:54

parents

01:03:54 --> 01:03:56

not fulfilling their role and prioritizing

01:03:57 --> 01:03:58

what their responsibility

01:03:58 --> 01:04:00

is. What does that lead to? It leads

01:04:00 --> 01:04:03

to broken homes. What do broken homes lead

01:04:03 --> 01:04:06

to? They lead to single mothers and men

01:04:06 --> 01:04:09

who've been divorced and children who will now

01:04:09 --> 01:04:11

have, you know, parents who are separated. Right?

01:04:12 --> 01:04:14

What does that lead to? That leads to

01:04:14 --> 01:04:15

second marriages.

01:04:15 --> 01:04:17

What is the likelihood of second marriages,

01:04:18 --> 01:04:20

failing brother now? So what's the what's the

01:04:20 --> 01:04:23

statistic again? 5 percent. It's it's, like, 75%.

01:04:23 --> 01:04:24

Terrible. So 75%,

01:04:25 --> 01:04:27

guys, yeah, on your second marriage. And this

01:04:27 --> 01:04:28

is these are just statistics, guys. I don't

01:04:28 --> 01:04:31

want anybody to get triggered or upset. This

01:04:31 --> 01:04:31

is just

01:04:32 --> 01:04:34

statistics. It's just data. It's just data for

01:04:34 --> 01:04:36

us to be aware of. So we've broken

01:04:36 --> 01:04:37

up that home.

01:04:38 --> 01:04:41

We've broken apart those 2 families for whatever

01:04:41 --> 01:04:43

reason, and now we have 2 single people

01:04:43 --> 01:04:45

who have had who have baggage.

01:04:45 --> 01:04:47

Those people with baggage go on to marry

01:04:47 --> 01:04:48

somebody else, statistically,

01:04:49 --> 01:04:49

75%

01:04:50 --> 01:04:52

chance of them breaking up. Maybe they have

01:04:52 --> 01:04:54

more children in that situation

01:04:54 --> 01:04:56

but it doesn't work out. So now you

01:04:56 --> 01:04:58

have a situation where that father has got

01:04:58 --> 01:05:01

children with 2 different women who he has

01:05:01 --> 01:05:01

left,

01:05:02 --> 01:05:04

that woman has children from 2 different men

01:05:04 --> 01:05:06

who are no longer in the picture, no

01:05:06 --> 01:05:07

longer in the home.

01:05:07 --> 01:05:10

And so the cycle continues the children grow

01:05:10 --> 01:05:12

up seeing that they take whatever lessons they

01:05:12 --> 01:05:14

take from that and we're out here on

01:05:14 --> 01:05:15

these apps

01:05:16 --> 01:05:19

having been married 2, 3, 4 times

01:05:19 --> 01:05:21

children from several different men.

01:05:22 --> 01:05:24

None of them are involved. Right? Or if

01:05:24 --> 01:05:27

they're involved, it's it's in a cursory way

01:05:27 --> 01:05:28

Families

01:05:28 --> 01:05:30

can't get involved in these marriages anymore because

01:05:30 --> 01:05:33

it's just too traumatic. Right? So when I

01:05:33 --> 01:05:35

say that the breaches are there are several

01:05:35 --> 01:05:38

breaches to how this is supposed to run

01:05:38 --> 01:05:40

I hope you understand what I'm saying

01:05:40 --> 01:05:43

It's okay. Alright. That's the problem that we

01:05:43 --> 01:05:46

find ourselves in. We are in a less

01:05:46 --> 01:05:47

than ideal situation.

01:05:48 --> 01:05:50

What can we do to reverse this?

01:05:51 --> 01:05:52

Reverse engineering guys.

01:05:54 --> 01:05:55

Marry earlier,

01:05:56 --> 01:05:58

prioritize finding a life partner

01:05:58 --> 01:05:59

over

01:05:59 --> 01:06:00

extended education

01:06:01 --> 01:06:03

and even getting onto the property ladder and

01:06:03 --> 01:06:05

all that stuff that they told us right?

01:06:06 --> 01:06:06

Prioritize

01:06:06 --> 01:06:08

a preparing your children for marriage. In fact,

01:06:08 --> 01:06:11

this brother Nati, this is the timeline that

01:06:11 --> 01:06:12

we're gonna teach from now on on this

01:06:12 --> 01:06:13

platform.

01:06:13 --> 01:06:14

A,

01:06:14 --> 01:06:16

get your head sorted when it comes to

01:06:16 --> 01:06:19

these issues for yourself as an adult. Get

01:06:19 --> 01:06:19

clear

01:06:20 --> 01:06:21

What is the priority?

01:06:22 --> 01:06:24

Did I have the right priorities coming up

01:06:24 --> 01:06:26

to this point? Have I got baggage? Let

01:06:26 --> 01:06:27

me deal with it. No matter who you

01:06:27 --> 01:06:31

are brother, sister, single, divorced, widowed, polygamous, monogamous.

01:06:31 --> 01:06:32

I don't care.

01:06:32 --> 01:06:33

Where are you at right now?

01:06:34 --> 01:06:36

What are your ideas about men? What are

01:06:36 --> 01:06:38

your ideas about women? What are your ideas

01:06:38 --> 01:06:39

about the roles that we should be playing?

01:06:39 --> 01:06:40

Right?

01:06:40 --> 01:06:43

Can you take yourself to account for the

01:06:43 --> 01:06:44

mistakes that you have made?

01:06:45 --> 01:06:47

Can you make amends for the mistakes that

01:06:47 --> 01:06:49

you've made? Can you make a decision to

01:06:49 --> 01:06:51

move differently moving forward? That's for you. And

01:06:51 --> 01:06:53

that's something every one of us can do

01:06:53 --> 01:06:54

Next step,

01:06:55 --> 01:06:57

teach the next generation.

01:06:58 --> 01:07:00

Teach them better than you were taught.

01:07:01 --> 01:07:03

Prepare your sons to be men.

01:07:04 --> 01:07:06

Prepare your daughters to be women.

01:07:06 --> 01:07:09

Teach them the correct priorities according to Allah's

01:07:11 --> 01:07:12

Next stage find good

01:07:13 --> 01:07:16

husbands and wives for your children. Marry them

01:07:16 --> 01:07:19

as soon as they are capable and support

01:07:19 --> 01:07:20

them in that

01:07:20 --> 01:07:23

Constantly learning how to be in a relationship

01:07:23 --> 01:07:25

how to how to nurture a relationship You

01:07:25 --> 01:07:28

know what role you're supposed to play Getting

01:07:28 --> 01:07:30

your children to focus on making sure that

01:07:30 --> 01:07:32

they are doing what they're supposed to do.

01:07:32 --> 01:07:34

Be there to support them. And then when

01:07:34 --> 01:07:36

you're in that relationship as a kid, yeah,

01:07:36 --> 01:07:38

you're you're the next step is those of

01:07:38 --> 01:07:40

you who are in marriages right now, you

01:07:40 --> 01:07:41

have a part to play.

01:07:41 --> 01:07:43

Keep your homes intact.

01:07:44 --> 01:07:46

Get the help you need to keep your

01:07:46 --> 01:07:47

home intact

01:07:48 --> 01:07:51

Whether it's counseling whether it's therapy whether it's

01:07:51 --> 01:07:53

distance whether it's a second wife whether it's

01:07:53 --> 01:07:56

moving to another country, try your best to

01:07:56 --> 01:07:58

keep your homes intact.

01:07:59 --> 01:08:01

Because all of these problems and the reason

01:08:01 --> 01:08:03

why we cannot answer questions like this easily

01:08:04 --> 01:08:06

is because it's been broken several times along

01:08:06 --> 01:08:08

the way. It was never meant to be

01:08:08 --> 01:08:09

like this

01:08:09 --> 01:08:11

It was never meant to be like this.

01:08:11 --> 01:08:13

And the thing is, if we

01:08:13 --> 01:08:14

we know

01:08:14 --> 01:08:15

divorce is allowed,

01:08:16 --> 01:08:18

it's bound to happen. It happened during the

01:08:18 --> 01:08:21

time of the prophets are seldom. Right? But

01:08:21 --> 01:08:22

guaranteed,

01:08:23 --> 01:08:26

if fathers were playing the role they're supposed

01:08:26 --> 01:08:28

to play in their children's lives, even if

01:08:28 --> 01:08:30

they are no longer with the mother

01:08:30 --> 01:08:33

and If women were playing the role that

01:08:33 --> 01:08:35

they're supposed to play as a wife, even

01:08:35 --> 01:08:37

if he's not the father of your children

01:08:37 --> 01:08:40

I think that the narrative on marrying so

01:08:40 --> 01:08:42

called single mothers, I think it would change

01:08:43 --> 01:08:45

because it didn't used to be like that.

01:08:45 --> 01:08:47

A generation ago, people were not out here

01:08:47 --> 01:08:49

saying don't be a stepdad. Brother Musmaster, do

01:08:49 --> 01:08:52

you know what I'm talking about? Mhmm. Mhmm.

01:08:52 --> 01:08:54

There was a time when being a stepdad

01:08:54 --> 01:08:56

was an honorable thing. It was doable. Right

01:08:56 --> 01:08:58

because you knew that your wife she's gonna

01:08:58 --> 01:09:00

respect you regardless You're gonna be the man

01:09:00 --> 01:09:03

of the house you came in there and

01:09:03 --> 01:09:04

you were appreciated for the stuff that you

01:09:04 --> 01:09:06

did There's no reason to say why we

01:09:06 --> 01:09:09

cannot have that again. Right? But more importantly,

01:09:10 --> 01:09:12

the fathers of those children

01:09:12 --> 01:09:14

don't stop them from seeing their kids.

01:09:15 --> 01:09:18

Don't take them to court and accuse them

01:09:18 --> 01:09:20

of abuse so that you can get sole

01:09:20 --> 01:09:22

custody again another breach

01:09:23 --> 01:09:25

So the way that we are moving through

01:09:25 --> 01:09:28

this modern society is creating problems that don't

01:09:28 --> 01:09:29

have solutions

01:09:30 --> 01:09:33

We have to unpick this one step at

01:09:33 --> 01:09:35

a time if we're going to see a

01:09:35 --> 01:09:37

change in the next generation and Allah knows

01:09:37 --> 01:09:39

best I hope that I hope that I

01:09:39 --> 01:09:40

don't know. What do you think about all

01:09:40 --> 01:09:41

that?

01:09:42 --> 01:09:43

No. You

01:09:44 --> 01:09:44

you

01:09:45 --> 01:09:47

you said everything that needed to be said.

01:09:49 --> 01:09:51

Yeah. Nothing to add.

01:09:52 --> 01:09:53

Nothing to add.

01:09:54 --> 01:09:56

The cc, for example, says the same thing.

01:09:56 --> 01:09:56

Right?

01:09:58 --> 01:09:59

At the end of the day

01:09:59 --> 01:10:01

at the end of the day,

01:10:01 --> 01:10:04

we know as Muslim women, you're allowed to

01:10:04 --> 01:10:05

work and have our own wealth. We know

01:10:05 --> 01:10:07

this. You keep your work halal, you're allowed.

01:10:07 --> 01:10:08

That's your money.

01:10:09 --> 01:10:10

For many of you, if the father is

01:10:10 --> 01:10:13

not stepping up and looking after the children,

01:10:13 --> 01:10:14

you have to. Right?

01:10:15 --> 01:10:15

So

01:10:16 --> 01:10:17

my question is,

01:10:18 --> 01:10:20

there are always brothers who are gonna marry

01:10:20 --> 01:10:21

older women. I'm sorry to say, but it's

01:10:21 --> 01:10:24

true. Right? Brothers, in general,

01:10:24 --> 01:10:27

average men don't have the leverage to have

01:10:27 --> 01:10:29

the woman that they want, especially if they

01:10:29 --> 01:10:31

don't have the money. And guys, you can

01:10:31 --> 01:10:32

come for me in the comments all you

01:10:32 --> 01:10:34

like, but you all know. You know what

01:10:34 --> 01:10:36

I'm talking about. If you don't have the

01:10:36 --> 01:10:37

paper,

01:10:37 --> 01:10:41

your options are limited. Because especially the most

01:10:41 --> 01:10:43

desirable women, they want the guy with the

01:10:43 --> 01:10:45

resources. They want the guy who can give

01:10:45 --> 01:10:47

them the lifestyle, who can keep them in

01:10:47 --> 01:10:48

the style to which they're come, you

01:10:49 --> 01:10:51

know, accustomed and all of that. Right? So

01:10:51 --> 01:10:52

there will always be

01:10:53 --> 01:10:56

potentially good men. Yeah. I wanna say and

01:10:56 --> 01:10:58

I believe this. I think brother Nasrud disagrees

01:10:58 --> 01:10:59

with me on this, but I believe

01:11:00 --> 01:11:02

there are good men out there. When I

01:11:02 --> 01:11:04

say good, they are Muslim

01:11:05 --> 01:11:07

and have good hearts.

01:11:07 --> 01:11:09

They have the right intentions,

01:11:10 --> 01:11:12

but they may not have the wallet size

01:11:12 --> 01:11:13

that you're looking for.

01:11:13 --> 01:11:15

They may not have the fully paid off

01:11:15 --> 01:11:17

house. They may not be able to buy

01:11:17 --> 01:11:19

you a car. They may not be able

01:11:19 --> 01:11:21

to take you on holiday once a year

01:11:21 --> 01:11:23

or however long it is.

01:11:24 --> 01:11:26

Are you open to making a deal with

01:11:26 --> 01:11:28

that guy? Can you make it work?

01:11:29 --> 01:11:31

Because when you get to a stage where

01:11:31 --> 01:11:34

you're older, you've got money, but you wanna

01:11:34 --> 01:11:36

get married with your 1st marriage and you're,

01:11:36 --> 01:11:36

like, 42,

01:11:37 --> 01:11:38

Rob, it's done.

01:11:39 --> 01:11:42

The chances of the traditional family is is

01:11:42 --> 01:11:43

over.

01:11:43 --> 01:11:44

So let it go.

01:11:45 --> 01:11:48

I'm I am an advocate of sisters being

01:11:48 --> 01:11:50

hyper realistic when it comes to what they

01:11:50 --> 01:11:51

believe they can get.

01:11:52 --> 01:11:55

But if you're 40, I remember hearing about

01:11:55 --> 01:11:56

sisters who will be on the apps

01:11:57 --> 01:11:58

at 42,

01:11:58 --> 01:12:00

never been married subhanallah.

01:12:01 --> 01:12:03

And she's out here saying I want a

01:12:03 --> 01:12:04

husband

01:12:05 --> 01:12:07

To have children with and start a family.

01:12:07 --> 01:12:09

I'm looking from 40 to 50

01:12:11 --> 01:12:12

And so

01:12:12 --> 01:12:13

and and of course, she wants him to

01:12:14 --> 01:12:16

even though she's a doctor or she's kind

01:12:16 --> 01:12:18

of got her own place, she still wants

01:12:18 --> 01:12:20

him to provide for her fully. He has

01:12:20 --> 01:12:22

to be able to provide. He has to

01:12:22 --> 01:12:24

be able to take her of his Islamic

01:12:24 --> 01:12:24

responsibilities.

01:12:25 --> 01:12:26

And it's like, sis,

01:12:27 --> 01:12:28

you're not at that stage anymore.

01:12:29 --> 01:12:31

Is it that important to you?

01:12:31 --> 01:12:34

What do you what is what are you

01:12:34 --> 01:12:35

prepared to sacrifice for?

01:12:36 --> 01:12:39

Can you conceive of a man that would

01:12:39 --> 01:12:42

be worth you being flexible for?

01:12:42 --> 01:12:43

Is a relationship

01:12:44 --> 01:12:46

worth it? Is a marriage worth it to

01:12:46 --> 01:12:48

you? Will you die a virgin dying on

01:12:48 --> 01:12:50

that hill? Is that cool for you?

01:12:50 --> 01:12:53

Do you want to experience love and belonging

01:12:53 --> 01:12:54

companionship

01:12:54 --> 01:12:55

in your life? And are you prepared to

01:12:55 --> 01:12:57

be flexible in order to get that? These

01:12:57 --> 01:12:57

are questions you have to ask yourself. But

01:12:57 --> 01:12:59

a lot of sisters are too proud, man.

01:12:59 --> 01:13:01

By the time they get to 40 and

01:13:01 --> 01:13:02

they've got their house and they've got their

01:13:02 --> 01:13:02

money and they've done all their self work

01:13:02 --> 01:13:04

and they're here. And they've got their house

01:13:04 --> 01:13:06

and they've got their money and they've done

01:13:06 --> 01:13:08

all their self work and their healing and

01:13:08 --> 01:13:10

they're the best versions of themselves, they don't

01:13:10 --> 01:13:11

have humility anymore.

01:13:12 --> 01:13:13

They consider it settling.

01:13:14 --> 01:13:15

I'm not gonna settle. I know who I

01:13:15 --> 01:13:17

am. I know my worth. I'm not settling.

01:13:18 --> 01:13:20

Oh, well And I know my I know

01:13:20 --> 01:13:22

my truth. Yeah.

01:13:25 --> 01:13:26

Oh,

01:13:27 --> 01:13:28

that was a lot, guys.

01:13:30 --> 01:13:33

That was a lot. It it it was

01:13:33 --> 01:13:34

needed. And and so and and so I

01:13:34 --> 01:13:37

agree with you, though, actually. There are definitely

01:13:37 --> 01:13:39

great brothers out there who don't have the

01:13:39 --> 01:13:39

resources.

01:13:41 --> 01:13:41

Right?

01:13:42 --> 01:13:44

And and I think some of them, though,

01:13:44 --> 01:13:46

I think some of them, though, not all,

01:13:46 --> 01:13:48

but some of them do suffer from the

01:13:48 --> 01:13:49

same issues

01:13:49 --> 01:13:51

that women do in terms of

01:13:52 --> 01:13:55

choosing a woman that is out of the

01:13:55 --> 01:13:58

the their standard, out of their their

01:13:59 --> 01:14:00

their shooting too far up.

01:14:01 --> 01:14:04

Right? So they need to lower the type

01:14:04 --> 01:14:06

of woman that they're looking for.

01:14:07 --> 01:14:09

Right? I think that becomes a problem for

01:14:09 --> 01:14:11

some brothers as well. So if you don't

01:14:11 --> 01:14:12

have the resources,

01:14:13 --> 01:14:16

understand that you're not gonna be valued by

01:14:16 --> 01:14:18

certain women who have resources.

01:14:19 --> 01:14:21

Can you strike a deal with her? Sure.

01:14:21 --> 01:14:24

But understand there's gonna be challenges because she's

01:14:24 --> 01:14:26

marrying down. And oftentimes, women

01:14:26 --> 01:14:28

don't like to marry down. I would say

01:14:28 --> 01:14:30

majority of the times they don't.

01:14:30 --> 01:14:33

So then you need to probably go, which

01:14:33 --> 01:14:35

a lot of men are doing, is go

01:14:35 --> 01:14:37

where you will be valued

01:14:38 --> 01:14:39

and wanted.

01:14:40 --> 01:14:43

So that may mean not finding a sister

01:14:43 --> 01:14:44

in your locality,

01:14:45 --> 01:14:47

which, again, a lot of brothers are doing,

01:14:48 --> 01:14:50

even brothers that do have resources.

01:14:51 --> 01:14:53

But this see, now see, this is the

01:14:53 --> 01:14:54

other thing that's not being,

01:14:55 --> 01:14:57

addressed here, though.

01:14:58 --> 01:15:00

You know, when sisters say

01:15:01 --> 01:15:04

when sisters say brothers won't marry someone who's

01:15:04 --> 01:15:04

older,

01:15:05 --> 01:15:06

it comes back to the point that I've

01:15:06 --> 01:15:08

made a number of times.

01:15:09 --> 01:15:11

A good number of you in terms of

01:15:11 --> 01:15:12

sisters,

01:15:13 --> 01:15:16

although, you know my broad understanding of what

01:15:16 --> 01:15:17

a sister is.

01:15:19 --> 01:15:22

Yes. That was shade. Yeah. We will not

01:15:22 --> 01:15:25

go back to that this week. We're moving

01:15:25 --> 01:15:25

forward

01:15:26 --> 01:15:29

always onwards and upwards. Thank you very much.

01:15:30 --> 01:15:31

Yeah. I know because you're still on that

01:15:31 --> 01:15:32

mountain.

01:15:33 --> 01:15:34

Yeah. 100%.

01:15:36 --> 01:15:36

So,

01:15:37 --> 01:15:39

back to the point before I was sidetracked

01:15:40 --> 01:15:40

by

01:15:41 --> 01:15:41

someone.

01:15:42 --> 01:15:44

So what I what I want to say

01:15:44 --> 01:15:44

is,

01:15:45 --> 01:15:48

sisters, those of you that keep coming back

01:15:48 --> 01:15:48

to this,

01:15:50 --> 01:15:52

men don't want to marry older women,

01:15:53 --> 01:15:55

a good number of you also have

01:15:56 --> 01:15:56

this

01:15:57 --> 01:15:57

fixation,

01:15:58 --> 01:15:59

this obsession

01:16:00 --> 01:16:00

with monogamy.

01:16:01 --> 01:16:03

And that's the elephant in the room that

01:16:03 --> 01:16:06

we're not talking about. Because a lot of

01:16:06 --> 01:16:07

the sisters who are older

01:16:08 --> 01:16:11

have this thing that they are too good

01:16:11 --> 01:16:14

for monogamy. I mean, too good for polygyny.

01:16:15 --> 01:16:17

And who told you that, sis?

01:16:18 --> 01:16:20

So we can't we can't talk about tradition.

01:16:20 --> 01:16:21

It's not the way of the prophet of

01:16:21 --> 01:16:23

Islam and the companions and all that. We

01:16:23 --> 01:16:26

can't say that Yeah. But not also acknowledge

01:16:26 --> 01:16:27

that in the community,

01:16:28 --> 01:16:31

they were taking care of the divorcees and

01:16:31 --> 01:16:32

the widows.

01:16:32 --> 01:16:34

One of the means by which they were

01:16:34 --> 01:16:36

doing that was polygyny.

01:16:36 --> 01:16:38

That is a missing piece. Thank you so

01:16:38 --> 01:16:41

much. Guys, when we make the PowerPoint presentation

01:16:42 --> 01:16:44

that kind of paints the picture that I

01:16:44 --> 01:16:46

painted today, we have to add that. We

01:16:46 --> 01:16:47

have to add

01:16:47 --> 01:16:48

normalizing

01:16:49 --> 01:16:49

polygyny

01:16:50 --> 01:16:52

for ourselves first and foremost

01:16:52 --> 01:16:54

and then for our children. Right?

01:16:55 --> 01:16:56

And in the community,

01:16:56 --> 01:16:58

allowing it to be an option for those

01:16:58 --> 01:17:01

who wish to practice it upon here. Seriously,

01:17:01 --> 01:17:03

the the the either,

01:17:03 --> 01:17:07

podcast recording with the sisters from the outstanding

01:17:07 --> 01:17:07

personal,

01:17:08 --> 01:17:08

relationships,

01:17:09 --> 01:17:11

coach Nazir's coach Nazir's wives.

01:17:11 --> 01:17:13

And we were talking about this. And we

01:17:13 --> 01:17:14

were talking about how

01:17:18 --> 01:17:20

within the the narrative of the community,

01:17:22 --> 01:17:22

we

01:17:23 --> 01:17:24

have problematized

01:17:25 --> 01:17:27

the institution of polygyny. Right?

01:17:28 --> 01:17:30

We've problematized it. We've said that is the

01:17:30 --> 01:17:31

reason

01:17:31 --> 01:17:33

that sisters are not happy,

01:17:33 --> 01:17:36

that, you know, brothers are kind of overstepping

01:17:36 --> 01:17:39

the bounds, sisters are being exploited, children are

01:17:39 --> 01:17:42

being traumatized, homes are being destroyed, people are

01:17:42 --> 01:17:43

losing their childhood,

01:17:43 --> 01:17:45

you know so much betrayal so much hurt

01:17:45 --> 01:17:47

so much pain all of this with freaking

01:17:47 --> 01:17:48

polygamy. Yeah,

01:17:49 --> 01:17:50

that's the narrative.

01:17:50 --> 01:17:52

Excuse me guys. Sorry.

01:17:52 --> 01:17:53

Stop counting. Narrative.

01:17:54 --> 01:17:55

That's the narrative.

01:17:57 --> 01:17:58

Unfortunately,

01:17:59 --> 01:18:01

the same things

01:18:01 --> 01:18:02

can be said

01:18:03 --> 01:18:04

of monogamous

01:18:04 --> 01:18:05

marriages

01:18:06 --> 01:18:06

because

01:18:07 --> 01:18:09

guess what? It's human beings

01:18:10 --> 01:18:12

involved in both of those institutions.

01:18:13 --> 01:18:13

Right?

01:18:14 --> 01:18:16

In a we know

01:18:16 --> 01:18:18

of people who've been betrayed,

01:18:18 --> 01:18:19

people who are unhappy,

01:18:20 --> 01:18:22

people who had their hearts broken, children who've

01:18:22 --> 01:18:23

been traumatized,

01:18:23 --> 01:18:24

divorced,

01:18:24 --> 01:18:26

you know, abuse, domestic violence, all of this

01:18:26 --> 01:18:29

stuff. Most of it's happening in monogamous marriages,

01:18:29 --> 01:18:31

guys. That's the reality. I remember coach Nadia

01:18:31 --> 01:18:33

making this point, and I was like, wow,

01:18:33 --> 01:18:36

that is such a good point. We

01:18:36 --> 01:18:39

point at the institution of religion and say

01:18:39 --> 01:18:42

that's the problem. But actually guys, we are

01:18:42 --> 01:18:44

the problem. It is the people in the

01:18:44 --> 01:18:45

institution

01:18:46 --> 01:18:48

Behaving in ways that are not befitting.

01:18:48 --> 01:18:49

That is the problem.

01:18:50 --> 01:18:52

And if we were going to actually look

01:18:52 --> 01:18:55

at, you know, how much whatever good or

01:18:55 --> 01:18:57

bad happens in different institutions, I don't know

01:18:57 --> 01:18:59

whether polygyny would actually come out as the

01:18:59 --> 01:19:01

worst one because there are more people in

01:19:01 --> 01:19:02

monogamy

01:19:02 --> 01:19:04

who are having problems than there are in

01:19:04 --> 01:19:06

polygyny just because there are more monogamous families.

01:19:06 --> 01:19:08

Right? There are more monogamous people. So

01:19:09 --> 01:19:12

to to your point and to add to

01:19:12 --> 01:19:13

this matrix that we're creating

01:19:15 --> 01:19:17

Getting a grip on our own ideas about

01:19:17 --> 01:19:18

something that Allah

01:19:18 --> 01:19:21

has made halal and has put barakah in.

01:19:22 --> 01:19:22

Right?

01:19:23 --> 01:19:26

Like this this whole thing of sisters, men,

01:19:26 --> 01:19:28

women, whoever it is, yeah,

01:19:28 --> 01:19:30

because of their own personal bias

01:19:33 --> 01:19:36

justifying why polygamy was okay then, but it's

01:19:36 --> 01:19:37

not okay now.

01:19:37 --> 01:19:39

It was okay in a certain time, but

01:19:39 --> 01:19:41

it's not okay anymore because, well, we've we've

01:19:41 --> 01:19:43

evolved in it. Like, our society is so

01:19:43 --> 01:19:45

much better now. We have so much more

01:19:45 --> 01:19:47

respect now with all of this nonsense.

01:19:47 --> 01:19:48

If Allah

01:19:49 --> 01:19:51

saw fit to mention

01:19:51 --> 01:19:52

in the Quran

01:19:54 --> 01:19:56

that you may marry 2, 3, or 4,

01:19:57 --> 01:19:59

And then, you know, if you cannot, then

01:19:59 --> 01:20:00

you choose 1.

01:20:01 --> 01:20:02

If you chose to mention it in the

01:20:02 --> 01:20:04

Quran, do you not think that it's important?

01:20:05 --> 01:20:07

Do you not think that Allah, Azza wa

01:20:07 --> 01:20:07

Jal,

01:20:08 --> 01:20:09

considered this institution

01:20:10 --> 01:20:13

worthy of mentioning in his eternal book? Like,

01:20:13 --> 01:20:15

seriously, how many things in the deen do

01:20:15 --> 01:20:17

we do on on, you know, as a

01:20:17 --> 01:20:19

as a as a matter of course, there's

01:20:19 --> 01:20:20

not mention in the Quran at all.

01:20:21 --> 01:20:23

Allah never mentions it in the Quran, but

01:20:23 --> 01:20:24

we know because of the example of the

01:20:24 --> 01:20:25

prophet,

01:20:25 --> 01:20:28

etcetera. Right? Polygyny is mentioned in the Quran.

01:20:29 --> 01:20:31

So for those of us who are trying

01:20:31 --> 01:20:33

to wiggle out of it because we feel

01:20:33 --> 01:20:36

ashamed or because we've got a personal

01:20:36 --> 01:20:39

experience or because we have imbibed trauma from

01:20:39 --> 01:20:41

other people who have been hurt in the

01:20:41 --> 01:20:42

institution

01:20:42 --> 01:20:44

We need to cleanse ourselves

01:20:45 --> 01:20:45

Right?

01:20:46 --> 01:20:47

Because just as you said,

01:20:48 --> 01:20:51

not only working on our own attitudes towards

01:20:51 --> 01:20:52

religion for ourselves

01:20:52 --> 01:20:53

and

01:20:53 --> 01:20:55

and normalizing it for our children and our

01:20:55 --> 01:20:58

daughters and our sons. Right? Don't bring your

01:20:58 --> 01:21:00

daughter up with the idea that if a

01:21:00 --> 01:21:02

man loves her, he will never marry another

01:21:02 --> 01:21:04

woman Don't do that to her

01:21:06 --> 01:21:08

Don't teach her that she has to find

01:21:08 --> 01:21:10

the one and she has to be the

01:21:10 --> 01:21:12

only one and all of this stuff either

01:21:12 --> 01:21:14

from your actions or from your speech Don't

01:21:14 --> 01:21:15

do that to her

01:21:16 --> 01:21:17

because it's not

01:21:17 --> 01:21:20

fair. You're setting her up for potential disappointment.

01:21:20 --> 01:21:23

Don't tell your son that he should be

01:21:23 --> 01:21:25

happy with 1 woman. Right? Tell him to

01:21:25 --> 01:21:26

be a good husband

01:21:27 --> 01:21:30

to as many women as he is is

01:21:30 --> 01:21:31

is capable of doing. Teach him how to

01:21:31 --> 01:21:34

be a man. What is a man?

01:21:35 --> 01:21:37

Not that simp from Hollywood. Trust me on

01:21:37 --> 01:21:38

that.

01:21:38 --> 01:21:41

Not that guy who's there running after his

01:21:41 --> 01:21:42

wife and trying to placate her and trying

01:21:42 --> 01:21:45

to make her everything, and she's his everything.

01:21:45 --> 01:21:47

And if she doesn't if she's not happy

01:21:47 --> 01:21:48

with him and he doesn't sleep, that's not

01:21:48 --> 01:21:50

what the hadith says, bro.

01:21:51 --> 01:21:53

Don't say that.

01:21:54 --> 01:21:57

You raised your son to be a simp.

01:21:57 --> 01:21:59

He's not going to be happy, and he's

01:21:59 --> 01:22:02

not going to be that strong man who

01:22:02 --> 01:22:03

can lead.

01:22:03 --> 01:22:06

Because if he's following after his wife, maybe

01:22:06 --> 01:22:09

because you you made him follow after you

01:22:09 --> 01:22:10

as his mom,

01:22:10 --> 01:22:13

and constantly be trying to get your approval

01:22:13 --> 01:22:14

and your validation,

01:22:15 --> 01:22:16

which is your role as a mom, guys,

01:22:16 --> 01:22:17

and we talked about this on the on

01:22:17 --> 01:22:19

the screen yesterday. Right?

01:22:20 --> 01:22:22

If you are setting your son up in

01:22:22 --> 01:22:25

a situation where he feels he's constantly performing

01:22:25 --> 01:22:26

to get your validation,

01:22:26 --> 01:22:28

your approval that mommy must be pleased with

01:22:28 --> 01:22:31

him. You will make him into a weak

01:22:31 --> 01:22:31

man

01:22:33 --> 01:22:35

and His wife will have the whip hand

01:22:35 --> 01:22:35

over him

01:22:37 --> 01:22:39

And that's not what Allah Allah is that's

01:22:39 --> 01:22:41

not acceptable, guys.

01:22:41 --> 01:22:43

Not to say there shouldn't be love there.

01:22:43 --> 01:22:44

Of course, they should. Look at the example

01:22:44 --> 01:22:46

of the prophet sallallahu alaihi wasallam.

01:22:47 --> 01:22:48

One of the most merciful,

01:22:49 --> 01:22:51

and I would just say humble husbands that

01:22:51 --> 01:22:53

we have example of.

01:22:53 --> 01:22:54

Merciful,

01:22:54 --> 01:22:55

loving, passionate,

01:22:55 --> 01:22:57

all of the good stuff. Right? But he

01:22:57 --> 01:22:58

was a man,

01:22:59 --> 01:23:02

and he knew where his responsibilities

01:23:03 --> 01:23:04

lay. And he knew which side his bread

01:23:04 --> 01:23:06

was buttered, and he made sure his wives

01:23:06 --> 01:23:08

knew as well. Like, he put them on

01:23:08 --> 01:23:09

notice.

01:23:09 --> 01:23:11

If you or your son cannot put his

01:23:11 --> 01:23:15

wife on notice, if your daughter cannot accept

01:23:15 --> 01:23:16

to be put on notice, we're gonna make

01:23:16 --> 01:23:18

more problems for them.

01:23:21 --> 01:23:23

So normalizing it within ourselves,

01:23:24 --> 01:23:27

normalizing it within the Muslim community in general

01:23:27 --> 01:23:28

and wives.

01:23:28 --> 01:23:31

If your husband's only married to you

01:23:32 --> 01:23:34

If you want to put in your contract

01:23:34 --> 01:23:36

that he can't marry again unless he divorces

01:23:36 --> 01:23:37

you you know what

01:23:38 --> 01:23:38

Knock yourself out.

01:23:40 --> 01:23:41

But if you are married,

01:23:41 --> 01:23:42

my advice

01:23:43 --> 01:23:43

is

01:23:44 --> 01:23:46

know in the back of your mind that

01:23:46 --> 01:23:46

it could happen,

01:23:47 --> 01:23:49

that it could be a possibility,

01:23:49 --> 01:23:51

know that at the end of the day,

01:23:51 --> 01:23:52

he could exercise his right,

01:23:53 --> 01:23:55

and don't get crazy.

01:23:57 --> 01:23:57

Do not

01:23:59 --> 01:24:03

stoop beneath your dignity as a Muslim woman

01:24:04 --> 01:24:05

by acting crazy.

01:24:06 --> 01:24:08

Because when your husband,

01:24:08 --> 01:24:09

if he has

01:24:10 --> 01:24:12

the the the the the the to come

01:24:12 --> 01:24:14

to you and say,

01:24:14 --> 01:24:15

babe,

01:24:15 --> 01:24:17

this is what I wanna do.

01:24:18 --> 01:24:19

And you say to him,

01:24:20 --> 01:24:22

divorce me then.

01:24:22 --> 01:24:24

I don't wanna be here. Well, fine then.

01:24:24 --> 01:24:26

Go and do it then. I'm leaving. I'm

01:24:26 --> 01:24:29

taking the kids. Don't you dare. You promise

01:24:29 --> 01:24:31

me I don't want this. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah.

01:24:31 --> 01:24:33

Yeah. And you make his life a living

01:24:33 --> 01:24:33

*.

01:24:34 --> 01:24:36

1 of 2 things gonna happen.

01:24:37 --> 01:24:38

He's gonna do it,

01:24:39 --> 01:24:42

and you've ruptured what you guys built.

01:24:42 --> 01:24:43

Right?

01:24:44 --> 01:24:46

And you're gonna have to eat humble pie,

01:24:47 --> 01:24:49

or he's gonna do it. He's not going

01:24:49 --> 01:24:50

to do it.

01:24:51 --> 01:24:51

But

01:24:52 --> 01:24:53

in that situation,

01:24:54 --> 01:24:55

you have emasculated

01:24:55 --> 01:24:58

him. He's not gonna forgive you for that,

01:24:58 --> 01:25:00

and you will not be able to forget

01:25:00 --> 01:25:01

that.

01:25:01 --> 01:25:03

And you may feel good in the moment.

01:25:03 --> 01:25:05

You may feel great. I got what I

01:25:05 --> 01:25:07

wanted. I got my way.

01:25:08 --> 01:25:09

He wanted to do this thing. And I

01:25:09 --> 01:25:11

was like, * no. You're not doing that.

01:25:11 --> 01:25:13

And you know what? He didn't dare.

01:25:14 --> 01:25:15

Listen to that.

01:25:16 --> 01:25:18

Is that a man that you're gonna respect?

01:25:20 --> 01:25:21

Is that a man that you're going to

01:25:21 --> 01:25:22

lean

01:25:22 --> 01:25:24

on? That you're going to rely on? That

01:25:24 --> 01:25:26

you're going to follow?

01:25:26 --> 01:25:27

*

01:25:27 --> 01:25:29

no. You're not following him.

01:25:30 --> 01:25:33

And that's that's the chop logic, sisters, right,

01:25:33 --> 01:25:35

that we have to deal with. You may

01:25:35 --> 01:25:36

want something,

01:25:36 --> 01:25:38

but it's bad for you. And you may

01:25:38 --> 01:25:40

dislike a thing, but there is good in

01:25:40 --> 01:25:42

it for you. And I can't think of

01:25:42 --> 01:25:45

an ayah in the Quran that is that

01:25:45 --> 01:25:45

is just

01:25:46 --> 01:25:48

it just hits the nail on the head

01:25:48 --> 01:25:49

for so much of this stuff that we

01:25:49 --> 01:25:50

talk about.

01:25:50 --> 01:25:52

It could be that you dislike a thing,

01:25:52 --> 01:25:53

but there is good in it for you.

01:25:53 --> 01:25:55

And it could be that you like a

01:25:55 --> 01:25:56

thing, and it's bad for you.

01:25:57 --> 01:26:00

So the other thing is make the option

01:26:00 --> 01:26:03

of honorable halal polygamy

01:26:05 --> 01:26:07

make it an option on the table for

01:26:07 --> 01:26:08

discussion, for conversation.

01:26:08 --> 01:26:12

Because if you don't, you're either pushing something

01:26:12 --> 01:26:13

under the carpet

01:26:13 --> 01:26:16

and this whole conversation about secret wives, which

01:26:16 --> 01:26:18

we've talked about here on other channels as

01:26:18 --> 01:26:19

well

01:26:20 --> 01:26:22

Why does a man take a secret wife?

01:26:23 --> 01:26:24

Give me what do you think brother Nossa

01:26:24 --> 01:26:26

firstly you can answer that and then you

01:26:26 --> 01:26:29

guys in the chat in the comments

01:26:30 --> 01:26:32

Answer me that question What are the reasons

01:26:32 --> 01:26:35

why a man will not disclose to his

01:26:35 --> 01:26:38

wife that he either wants to take a

01:26:38 --> 01:26:39

second wife or he's going to or he

01:26:39 --> 01:26:42

has done? What are the reasons? 1, 2,

01:26:42 --> 01:26:43

3. Go.

01:26:45 --> 01:26:45

So

01:26:45 --> 01:26:47

a a number of points,

01:26:47 --> 01:26:49

and it comes back to something that I

01:26:49 --> 01:26:50

said before.

01:26:51 --> 01:26:54

Sisters keep other sisters single.

01:26:54 --> 01:26:57

And it's important that sisters, when you mention

01:26:57 --> 01:26:57

that,

01:26:59 --> 01:27:02

brothers don't like to marry older women, divorcees,

01:27:03 --> 01:27:06

if that is true, if that is the

01:27:06 --> 01:27:06

reality

01:27:07 --> 01:27:08

for some brothers,

01:27:09 --> 01:27:11

then you must acknowledge, if we're being logical,

01:27:12 --> 01:27:15

the need that is there for polygyny.

01:27:16 --> 01:27:18

That's just basic logic. That's rudimentary.

01:27:19 --> 01:27:19

So

01:27:20 --> 01:27:21

when other sisters,

01:27:22 --> 01:27:24

those that are married

01:27:24 --> 01:27:26

and those that just follow the crowd

01:27:28 --> 01:27:31

are against polygyny. You're only hurting your own

01:27:31 --> 01:27:31

options

01:27:32 --> 01:27:34

if you are in a situation where you

01:27:34 --> 01:27:35

become divorced.

01:27:35 --> 01:27:37

So that's one thing. And or not even

01:27:37 --> 01:27:39

divorced, but have not been married.

01:27:41 --> 01:27:42

And I can tell you that

01:27:44 --> 01:27:46

when I speak to sisters

01:27:49 --> 01:27:52

who are in terrible marriages, marriages that need

01:27:52 --> 01:27:53

to end in divorce,

01:27:54 --> 01:27:55

and they're older,

01:27:56 --> 01:27:56

they

01:27:57 --> 01:27:58

still are against

01:27:58 --> 01:27:59

polygyny

01:27:59 --> 01:28:01

even when they're in their forties.

01:28:03 --> 01:28:05

And, again, that's why earlier I mentioned

01:28:06 --> 01:28:08

this lack of acknowledgment

01:28:08 --> 01:28:09

of the wall.

01:28:10 --> 01:28:13

When you understand that the wall is real,

01:28:13 --> 01:28:16

it will allow you to move differently. Because

01:28:16 --> 01:28:18

as you said earlier, biology doesn't lie.

01:28:19 --> 01:28:21

So when you understand the world, you understand

01:28:21 --> 01:28:22

that

01:28:22 --> 01:28:22

externally,

01:28:23 --> 01:28:25

you may look like you're in your late

01:28:25 --> 01:28:26

twenties, but internally,

01:28:27 --> 01:28:30

you're 40, ma. That's just it. That's reality.

01:28:30 --> 01:28:33

So you have to accept that, and that

01:28:33 --> 01:28:35

comes with accepting the wall.

01:28:35 --> 01:28:36

And so

01:28:38 --> 01:28:40

one of the things that I think we

01:28:40 --> 01:28:41

need to have a very

01:28:43 --> 01:28:46

important conversation on is this

01:28:47 --> 01:28:49

knee jerk reaction, this

01:28:50 --> 01:28:52

immature reaction

01:28:53 --> 01:28:55

that a lot of sisters and some brothers

01:28:55 --> 01:28:56

fall into this

01:28:57 --> 01:28:58

because it's so widespread

01:28:59 --> 01:28:59

is

01:29:00 --> 01:29:03

this referring to brothers as cowards

01:29:04 --> 01:29:07

if they take a wife in secret.

01:29:07 --> 01:29:08

Mhmm.

01:29:09 --> 01:29:09

Right?

01:29:09 --> 01:29:12

So we can, on one hand, say that

01:29:13 --> 01:29:16

we're concerned about the mental health and an

01:29:16 --> 01:29:19

emotional well-being of brothers, of men.

01:29:20 --> 01:29:23

But, also, then on the flip side, when

01:29:23 --> 01:29:26

we don't get what we like from them

01:29:26 --> 01:29:29

or they they exercise

01:29:29 --> 01:29:30

options,

01:29:32 --> 01:29:35

we then begin to engage in the dysfunctional

01:29:35 --> 01:29:37

behavior of labeling

01:29:37 --> 01:29:38

and rating them.

01:29:41 --> 01:29:42

Right?

01:29:43 --> 01:29:44

2 things.

01:29:44 --> 01:29:45

Because that's unhealthy.

01:29:46 --> 01:29:48

2 things. Ain't nobody ain't nobody care. Ain't

01:29:48 --> 01:29:52

nobody care. Okay. Ain't nobody kid. Nobody cares.

01:29:52 --> 01:29:53

Nobody cares.

01:29:54 --> 01:29:55

And you choose violence.

01:29:57 --> 01:30:00

No problem. I can take that. But then

01:30:00 --> 01:30:01

on the other hand, don't try to tell

01:30:01 --> 01:30:03

me that you're concerned about the mental wealth.

01:30:03 --> 01:30:05

I mean, the mental health of men. Nobody

01:30:05 --> 01:30:07

cares about mental health of men. I said

01:30:07 --> 01:30:10

this from our first episode. It's just And

01:30:10 --> 01:30:12

don't tell me don't tell me you brothers

01:30:12 --> 01:30:13

to be vulnerable.

01:30:13 --> 01:30:15

No. It's just talk. It's just talk. We

01:30:15 --> 01:30:18

agreed this. Guys, we know that it's the

01:30:18 --> 01:30:21

game is up, bruv. The game is up.

01:30:21 --> 01:30:24

We now know that I want a man

01:30:24 --> 01:30:26

who can be vulnerable. Brothers should be vulnerable.

01:30:26 --> 01:30:27

It's just code.

01:30:28 --> 01:30:30

It's just code for

01:30:30 --> 01:30:31

listen to me

01:30:32 --> 01:30:32

and,

01:30:33 --> 01:30:35

validate my emotions. That's what it's code for.

01:30:35 --> 01:30:37

Right? And and and maybe some emotional openness,

01:30:37 --> 01:30:39

Shweta, but let's not get sidetracked because we're

01:30:39 --> 01:30:41

on a we're on to a good thing

01:30:41 --> 01:30:42

here. We're on to a very good thing

01:30:42 --> 01:30:43

here. So

01:30:44 --> 01:30:45

the point of of

01:30:45 --> 01:30:46

the labeling

01:30:48 --> 01:30:51

the labeling and just side note, this comment,

01:30:51 --> 01:30:53

please make sure that we come back to

01:30:53 --> 01:30:55

this secret wives or haram and that strict

01:30:56 --> 01:30:57

Just address it right now. When we say

01:30:57 --> 01:31:00

secret wives or private arrangements, what are we

01:31:00 --> 01:31:01

talking about here?

01:31:02 --> 01:31:02

So so

01:31:03 --> 01:31:04

two things.

01:31:06 --> 01:31:07

One,

01:31:07 --> 01:31:09

why is a brother choosing a secret wife?

01:31:10 --> 01:31:12

Or a secret or private as I would

01:31:12 --> 01:31:15

prefer to use. Why is a brother and

01:31:15 --> 01:31:18

a sister? Because let's also acknowledge

01:31:18 --> 01:31:20

that these are 2 adults

01:31:20 --> 01:31:23

choosing to keep their marriage private.

01:31:24 --> 01:31:26

Why are they choosing to do that? And

01:31:26 --> 01:31:28

see, I think when we don't ask that

01:31:28 --> 01:31:29

deeper question,

01:31:30 --> 01:31:30

which is

01:31:31 --> 01:31:31

intellectually

01:31:32 --> 01:31:32

dishonest,

01:31:33 --> 01:31:35

it's because we don't wanna take ownership for

01:31:35 --> 01:31:36

our own,

01:31:37 --> 01:31:38

unhealthy

01:31:38 --> 01:31:38

opinions

01:31:39 --> 01:31:41

that we bleed out into the community

01:31:41 --> 01:31:44

that then creates a community where people feel

01:31:44 --> 01:31:46

as though they have to keep their marriage

01:31:46 --> 01:31:46

private.

01:31:47 --> 01:31:49

Yeah. Check this out. Check this comment out.

01:31:49 --> 01:31:50

I agree with you 100%.

01:31:51 --> 01:31:52

This for me

01:31:52 --> 01:31:54

is an example of the narrative.

01:31:55 --> 01:31:56

I think you have to know yourself well

01:31:57 --> 01:32:00

because the drama from polygyny could very well

01:32:00 --> 01:32:03

be the road to health. Okay. Are you

01:32:03 --> 01:32:04

gonna say the same for are you gonna

01:32:04 --> 01:32:05

say are you gonna say the same for

01:32:05 --> 01:32:06

a marriage?

01:32:07 --> 01:32:09

The drama that comes from a marriage?

01:32:09 --> 01:32:11

The drama that comes from joining a new

01:32:11 --> 01:32:14

family, the drama that comes from children, the

01:32:14 --> 01:32:16

sacrifices that you have to make, the difficulty.

01:32:16 --> 01:32:18

You gotta say the same thing about everything?

01:32:19 --> 01:32:20

People and again,

01:32:20 --> 01:32:22

it's not the institution.

01:32:22 --> 01:32:23

It's the people.

01:32:24 --> 01:32:26

Don't blame the institution for the way the

01:32:26 --> 01:32:28

people are behaving. Of course, every situation

01:32:29 --> 01:32:31

puts pressure on us. This is this dunya,

01:32:31 --> 01:32:31

guys.

01:32:32 --> 01:32:34

This dunya is the place of test and

01:32:34 --> 01:32:34

examination.

01:32:35 --> 01:32:38

And every situation that we get ourselves into

01:32:38 --> 01:32:40

is gonna put pressure on us for for

01:32:40 --> 01:32:43

for in different ways and for different outcomes.

01:32:43 --> 01:32:45

So those of you who went to university,

01:32:46 --> 01:32:49

right, and you studied something hard, yeah, like

01:32:49 --> 01:32:51

medicine. I've got big respect for people who

01:32:51 --> 01:32:52

study medicine. I could never do it.

01:32:53 --> 01:32:55

But what did you sacrifice in order to

01:32:55 --> 01:32:57

complete that degree?

01:32:57 --> 01:32:58

Was it easy?

01:32:59 --> 01:32:59

Was it pleasurable?

01:33:00 --> 01:33:02

Was it fun all the time?

01:33:03 --> 01:33:05

Did you lose sleep? Did you lose friends?

01:33:05 --> 01:33:08

Right? Were you stressed out? Okay. Were you

01:33:08 --> 01:33:10

were you were you in a in a

01:33:10 --> 01:33:12

bad state emotionally physically mentally? Whatever. Did you

01:33:12 --> 01:33:15

spend or rack up debt?

01:33:16 --> 01:33:17

Did you have to forego a lot of

01:33:17 --> 01:33:19

the things that other people were doing and

01:33:19 --> 01:33:21

sacrifice in order to you for you to

01:33:21 --> 01:33:23

have that MD on your name? Yes, you

01:33:23 --> 01:33:23

did.

01:33:24 --> 01:33:26

And the reason you did that is because

01:33:26 --> 01:33:28

you believed it was worth it. It's the

01:33:28 --> 01:33:31

same thing with children and child rearing and

01:33:31 --> 01:33:33

childbearing. It's the same with marrying 1 man.

01:33:33 --> 01:33:35

It's the same as marrying 2 women. It's

01:33:35 --> 01:33:38

the same as taking care of your elderly

01:33:38 --> 01:33:38

parents.

01:33:38 --> 01:33:41

This dunya is a place of test and

01:33:41 --> 01:33:41

examination.

01:33:42 --> 01:33:43

Somebody put in the chat that,

01:33:44 --> 01:33:45

was it monogamy

01:33:46 --> 01:33:48

favors women or something? And I wanna say

01:33:48 --> 01:33:49

to that,

01:33:49 --> 01:33:51

it favors women who are married.

01:33:52 --> 01:33:53

Obviously,

01:33:54 --> 01:33:55

he was trying to make the point, I

01:33:55 --> 01:33:59

think, that monogamy favors women over men. So

01:33:59 --> 01:34:01

polygyny is more like it favors men more

01:34:01 --> 01:34:03

men get more out of religion than they

01:34:03 --> 01:34:06

than women do right? But the reality is

01:34:07 --> 01:34:07

monogamy

01:34:08 --> 01:34:08

favors

01:34:09 --> 01:34:10

women who are married

01:34:11 --> 01:34:13

women who have first wife status

01:34:14 --> 01:34:17

or only wife status who have the privilege

01:34:17 --> 01:34:18

of having someone

01:34:19 --> 01:34:21

It's just like we talk about, you know,

01:34:21 --> 01:34:22

tax rules or whatever the case may be

01:34:22 --> 01:34:25

favors people who have money, obviously.

01:34:25 --> 01:34:27

But does that mean that we don't ever

01:34:27 --> 01:34:30

think about those who do not have that?

01:34:32 --> 01:34:34

When you say that, you know, oh, like,

01:34:34 --> 01:34:35

one of the things that came up in

01:34:35 --> 01:34:37

the conversations today was people saying that, oh,

01:34:37 --> 01:34:39

polygamy is all about the man and what

01:34:39 --> 01:34:39

he wants.

01:34:40 --> 01:34:41

Sorry. Did he not marry a woman?

01:34:42 --> 01:34:45

Didn't he marry another woman? Isn't there now

01:34:45 --> 01:34:46

another woman

01:34:46 --> 01:34:47

who, masha'Allah,

01:34:47 --> 01:34:48

has a husband,

01:34:49 --> 01:34:50

who has companionship,

01:34:50 --> 01:34:53

who has a halal outlet for her desires,

01:34:53 --> 01:34:56

who has a protector, who has another adult

01:34:56 --> 01:34:57

in her life, who cares and is looking

01:34:57 --> 01:34:59

out for her. Sorry. Did did all of

01:34:59 --> 01:35:01

that barakah not happen?

01:35:01 --> 01:35:03

Mhmm. What? Because the first wife has got

01:35:03 --> 01:35:05

her nose out of joint and she's vexed

01:35:05 --> 01:35:06

about it? So so so none of the

01:35:06 --> 01:35:09

other barakah counts because she's upset,

01:35:09 --> 01:35:11

Because this is not what she wanted. Because

01:35:11 --> 01:35:14

she didn't choose. Because she didn't agree. Because

01:35:14 --> 01:35:16

she didn't want him to do that. So

01:35:16 --> 01:35:17

all of the other barakah is discounted now.

01:35:17 --> 01:35:20

Doesn't mean anything. Because my feelings were hurt

01:35:21 --> 01:35:22

because he did this thing to me. I

01:35:22 --> 01:35:24

don't I don't agree with this.

01:35:24 --> 01:35:25

It's wrong, guys.

01:35:26 --> 01:35:28

I remember somebody who wasn't Muslim who was

01:35:28 --> 01:35:30

watching one of the videos talking about polygyny,

01:35:30 --> 01:35:33

whatever. Right? And it was talking about this

01:35:33 --> 01:35:34

this particular

01:35:34 --> 01:35:37

experience of polygyny, which is the first wife's

01:35:37 --> 01:35:39

kind of her what we're now calling trauma,

01:35:40 --> 01:35:41

right, when her husband married.

01:35:42 --> 01:35:44

And this person was very confused because they

01:35:44 --> 01:35:45

were like, hold on.

01:35:46 --> 01:35:47

Muslims all know

01:35:48 --> 01:35:50

that a man in their religion is allowed

01:35:50 --> 01:35:52

to marry up to 4 women.

01:35:52 --> 01:35:55

So why do Muslim women get married and

01:35:55 --> 01:35:57

expect monogamy?

01:35:57 --> 01:35:59

Wouldn't it make more sense for them to

01:35:59 --> 01:36:01

marry and expect that maybe

01:36:02 --> 01:36:04

there will be somebody else if not 2

01:36:04 --> 01:36:07

or 3 others because that's a part of

01:36:07 --> 01:36:08

our dean and it's a part of our

01:36:08 --> 01:36:10

culture and has been the culture for many

01:36:10 --> 01:36:13

many years for in most of our communities.

01:36:13 --> 01:36:14

Right? And to be honest, I could not

01:36:14 --> 01:36:15

answer the question.

01:36:16 --> 01:36:18

I could not answer the question because, well,

01:36:18 --> 01:36:20

we can talk about society and changes and

01:36:20 --> 01:36:22

everything. But if we're gonna be real about

01:36:22 --> 01:36:24

this deen, guys, if we're gonna be sincere

01:36:24 --> 01:36:26

to Allah and his messenger, we need to

01:36:26 --> 01:36:27

unpack a lot of this stuff. We really

01:36:27 --> 01:36:28

really do.

01:36:29 --> 01:36:30

So let me just read off some of

01:36:30 --> 01:36:33

these answers why people said why a husband

01:36:33 --> 01:36:34

would not tell his wife. So we've got

01:36:34 --> 01:36:36

he doesn't trust that she can handle it.

01:36:37 --> 01:36:39

Sis says out of respect, he should mention

01:36:39 --> 01:36:39

it.

01:36:40 --> 01:36:43

Later says because she might go crazy on

01:36:43 --> 01:36:43

him.

01:36:44 --> 01:36:44

Oh,

01:36:45 --> 01:36:46

from what I've seen, some men do it

01:36:46 --> 01:36:49

because their wife is involved in shirk. Woah.

01:36:49 --> 01:36:49

Okay.

01:36:50 --> 01:36:52

Aisha says they don't tell their wife because

01:36:52 --> 01:36:54

they don't fear Allah.

01:36:57 --> 01:36:58

They don't fear Allah?

01:36:59 --> 01:37:00

Maybe the wife doesn't fear Allah or maybe

01:37:00 --> 01:37:02

the husband doesn't fear Allah. That's why he

01:37:02 --> 01:37:03

doesn't tell her. I'm not sure. I think

01:37:03 --> 01:37:06

it's I think it's important just to make

01:37:06 --> 01:37:07

a quick note here before we go to

01:37:07 --> 01:37:09

the next one. Please remember

01:37:10 --> 01:37:12

the best of example,

01:37:12 --> 01:37:13

the prophet

01:37:14 --> 01:37:17

was not getting approval from his wives

01:37:18 --> 01:37:20

before he took on another wife. Let's just

01:37:20 --> 01:37:22

make that very clear.

01:37:24 --> 01:37:26

Very clear. He was not seeking approval or

01:37:26 --> 01:37:27

validation.

01:37:28 --> 01:37:28

Yeah.

01:37:29 --> 01:37:31

When he told me to this I wanna

01:37:31 --> 01:37:33

speak to this point here. Brother says, the

01:37:33 --> 01:37:34

reason a man does not disclose is because

01:37:34 --> 01:37:37

she threatens to the family, the marriage, which

01:37:37 --> 01:37:39

is what I mentioned earlier, which a man

01:37:39 --> 01:37:42

wants to keep to maintain the family. Now

01:37:42 --> 01:37:44

I know of a situation where a brother

01:37:44 --> 01:37:47

had married quite young. He had several children

01:37:47 --> 01:37:49

with his wife, but really him and his

01:37:49 --> 01:37:51

wife, it was a mismatch. Right? We know

01:37:51 --> 01:37:53

this happens, especially in an arranged situation. It's

01:37:53 --> 01:37:54

a mismatch.

01:37:54 --> 01:37:56

He did not feel fulfilled

01:37:56 --> 01:37:58

with this wife on a lot of different

01:37:58 --> 01:38:00

levels, but that's the mother of his children.

01:38:00 --> 01:38:02

Right? So he's like, I I can't

01:38:03 --> 01:38:05

leave her. I can't do this because

01:38:05 --> 01:38:07

I personally am a full force.

01:38:08 --> 01:38:09

What can I do?

01:38:10 --> 01:38:12

And, of course, he knew that he had

01:38:12 --> 01:38:14

the option of marrying again. But when he

01:38:14 --> 01:38:16

discussed it with his wife, she was like,

01:38:16 --> 01:38:17

absolutely

01:38:17 --> 01:38:19

no way. If you do that, the kids

01:38:19 --> 01:38:22

and I are gone. Right? So he's in

01:38:22 --> 01:38:25

a situation where, as far as he's concerned,

01:38:26 --> 01:38:28

I either stick it out with this with

01:38:28 --> 01:38:30

the mother of my children and I sacrifice

01:38:30 --> 01:38:33

myself and I deny myself something that is

01:38:33 --> 01:38:35

halal and I'm unhappy

01:38:35 --> 01:38:37

and it impacts my work, it impacts the

01:38:37 --> 01:38:39

way I show up, it impacts my whole

01:38:39 --> 01:38:40

life experience, right,

01:38:42 --> 01:38:43

to keep her happy

01:38:43 --> 01:38:44

and keep my family intact,

01:38:45 --> 01:38:47

or I take the avenue that Allah has

01:38:47 --> 01:38:50

allowed for me and I have another wife

01:38:50 --> 01:38:52

on the side, do things Islamically, Yani. You've

01:38:52 --> 01:38:53

got your witnesses. You do your nikah. You

01:38:53 --> 01:38:55

have your mahar and everything. Right?

01:38:56 --> 01:38:58

Just to take the pressure off this marriage.

01:38:59 --> 01:39:01

Because if I stay in this marriage and

01:39:01 --> 01:39:04

that's all I have, I will eventually divorce

01:39:04 --> 01:39:06

her because I can't stay in this situation.

01:39:06 --> 01:39:09

Right? So this was obviously his reading of

01:39:09 --> 01:39:10

his situation.

01:39:12 --> 01:39:13

But how many

01:39:14 --> 01:39:16

women want to hear that?

01:39:17 --> 01:39:19

How many of us?

01:39:20 --> 01:39:21

And I I've said this before, and I'm

01:39:21 --> 01:39:23

thinking I'm gonna keep saying it actually because

01:39:23 --> 01:39:24

I really think it's a question that we

01:39:24 --> 01:39:26

don't ask enough.

01:39:27 --> 01:39:28

How many of

01:39:28 --> 01:39:31

us are so sure that our husband is

01:39:31 --> 01:39:32

satisfied

01:39:32 --> 01:39:34

with us as a wife

01:39:34 --> 01:39:36

that we in our heads think that he

01:39:36 --> 01:39:39

has no reason to want anybody else.

01:39:40 --> 01:39:41

No reason at all.

01:39:42 --> 01:39:42

I don't know.

01:39:43 --> 01:39:44

That's a question

01:39:45 --> 01:39:47

that sisters need to ask,

01:39:48 --> 01:39:49

but I think that entitlement,

01:39:50 --> 01:39:51

that lack of humility

01:39:52 --> 01:39:55

would not allow some, not all, but some

01:39:55 --> 01:39:57

to ask that question. Because that's an important

01:39:57 --> 01:39:58

question.

01:39:59 --> 01:40:01

Because when you come from the Disney fantasy,

01:40:02 --> 01:40:04

how can I not be enough? How can

01:40:04 --> 01:40:05

how can my presence,

01:40:06 --> 01:40:09

me being the table, not be sufficient for

01:40:09 --> 01:40:10

any need that he may have?

01:40:11 --> 01:40:12

Yeah. Right? And and you know the the

01:40:12 --> 01:40:15

the interest he who is he to want

01:40:15 --> 01:40:16

more than what I'm giving?

01:40:17 --> 01:40:19

That's one. I think that you hit the

01:40:19 --> 01:40:21

nail right on the head right there.

01:40:22 --> 01:40:23

He's not all that.

01:40:23 --> 01:40:26

He's got this this this this floor. Right?

01:40:26 --> 01:40:27

He's not perfect.

01:40:27 --> 01:40:30

Who is he to want more than I'm

01:40:30 --> 01:40:32

already giving him? And that is not to

01:40:32 --> 01:40:35

say that the sister's giving him all that

01:40:35 --> 01:40:37

she could be giving him as a wife

01:40:38 --> 01:40:38

because sisters

01:40:39 --> 01:40:40

a brother mentioned that his wife,

01:40:41 --> 01:40:43

said that she wants to lose weight for

01:40:43 --> 01:40:43

him,

01:40:43 --> 01:40:45

and he told her, you know, not to

01:40:45 --> 01:40:46

bother. He loves her the way that she

01:40:46 --> 01:40:49

is and that, you know, a husband who,

01:40:49 --> 01:40:52

what did he say? That that men value

01:40:52 --> 01:40:55

good wives and mothers. Right? Good moms. He

01:40:55 --> 01:40:58

said specifically good moms. Right? And the thing

01:40:59 --> 01:40:59

is while

01:41:00 --> 01:41:00

I

01:41:01 --> 01:41:03

I think that's a wonderful sentiment and I'm

01:41:03 --> 01:41:06

sure that his wife feels very secure in

01:41:06 --> 01:41:07

that relationship.

01:41:08 --> 01:41:10

I think there can be a danger

01:41:10 --> 01:41:11

of expecting

01:41:12 --> 01:41:15

all men to have that same sentiment.

01:41:15 --> 01:41:18

That because I have had his children,

01:41:19 --> 01:41:20

he should not

01:41:20 --> 01:41:22

have a standard for me. That he shouldn't

01:41:22 --> 01:41:25

have expectations of me because can't he see

01:41:25 --> 01:41:25

I'm busy

01:41:26 --> 01:41:29

raising his kids? I'm busy having his kids.

01:41:29 --> 01:41:32

And this could show up in, for example,

01:41:32 --> 01:41:35

the amount of time and attention he gets,

01:41:36 --> 01:41:38

how his needs are prioritized

01:41:38 --> 01:41:39

within the home,

01:41:40 --> 01:41:43

also intimate activity and private time,

01:41:44 --> 01:41:46

not to mention, obviously, the physical aspect and

01:41:46 --> 01:41:48

how you show up in that space.

01:41:48 --> 01:41:51

But I I have a sneaking suspicion

01:41:52 --> 01:41:54

that for many of us as sisters,

01:41:54 --> 01:41:57

our identity within our families and

01:41:59 --> 01:42:01

our identity as as as women within our

01:42:01 --> 01:42:04

families is tied very much to our role

01:42:04 --> 01:42:05

as mothers,

01:42:06 --> 01:42:08

much more so than as wives.

01:42:09 --> 01:42:12

So even though the dean teaches us to

01:42:12 --> 01:42:12

ask ourselves,

01:42:13 --> 01:42:16

how how does my husband feel about me?

01:42:16 --> 01:42:18

Is he pleased with me? And to take

01:42:18 --> 01:42:20

ourselves to account for that. Right? Because that's

01:42:20 --> 01:42:22

what the hadith says. Mhmm. The woman came

01:42:22 --> 01:42:23

to the prophet and she said, I do

01:42:23 --> 01:42:24

this. I do that. I do that. And

01:42:24 --> 01:42:26

he said, how are you with your husband?

01:42:27 --> 01:42:28

And then she said, I serve him, and

01:42:28 --> 01:42:29

I do not disobey him in anything. And

01:42:29 --> 01:42:31

he said, good. Because look to him, for

01:42:31 --> 01:42:33

he is your heaven, not your *. Right?

01:42:33 --> 01:42:35

I don't think because of the society we

01:42:35 --> 01:42:36

live in and all the stuff,

01:42:37 --> 01:42:39

I don't think many of us actually

01:42:40 --> 01:42:41

are real with ourselves

01:42:41 --> 01:42:43

when it comes to the question of

01:42:44 --> 01:42:45

how is my husband?

01:42:46 --> 01:42:47

How does he really feel about me as

01:42:47 --> 01:42:49

his wife, as his woman? Not as the

01:42:49 --> 01:42:51

mother of his children,

01:42:51 --> 01:42:53

not as the homemaker, not as the the

01:42:53 --> 01:42:55

the community this and the auntie and the,

01:42:55 --> 01:42:58

you know, the grand you know, the daughter-in-law

01:42:58 --> 01:43:00

and all of that stuff, but as his

01:43:00 --> 01:43:03

wife, as his woman in this space between

01:43:03 --> 01:43:05

us. What do you think? Is this something

01:43:05 --> 01:43:06

that's been on my mind for a while?

01:43:06 --> 01:43:08

What do you think in the comments? And,

01:43:08 --> 01:43:09

brother Nasu, what do you think of that?

01:43:09 --> 01:43:11

Do you think I'm being unfair?

01:43:11 --> 01:43:13

No. I don't think you're being unfair, and

01:43:13 --> 01:43:15

I understand the sentiment of that brother. But

01:43:15 --> 01:43:17

I would say to him if he was

01:43:17 --> 01:43:19

working with me and asked me, yeah, tell

01:43:19 --> 01:43:20

your wife you love her and you appreciate

01:43:21 --> 01:43:21

her as

01:43:22 --> 01:43:24

your wife and the mother of

01:43:24 --> 01:43:25

your children,

01:43:26 --> 01:43:27

a 100%,

01:43:27 --> 01:43:29

but also buy her a treadmill.

01:43:30 --> 01:43:33

Brothers, don't don't see, I don't know the

01:43:33 --> 01:43:35

context, so I'll take it away from that

01:43:35 --> 01:43:35

brother.

01:43:38 --> 01:43:40

But don't set yourself up

01:43:40 --> 01:43:41

to be

01:43:42 --> 01:43:42

unattractive

01:43:42 --> 01:43:43

to your wife

01:43:44 --> 01:43:46

because that's kind of a spineless comment.

01:43:46 --> 01:43:48

Right? That's a Simpish comment.

01:43:49 --> 01:43:50

Right?

01:43:50 --> 01:43:53

That's a man what I hear and, brother,

01:43:53 --> 01:43:55

whoever you are who said that, I don't

01:43:55 --> 01:43:57

know your situation. So, again, I'm taking this

01:43:57 --> 01:43:59

away from you. I'm just looking at the

01:43:59 --> 01:44:01

comment on surface. It may not apply to

01:44:01 --> 01:44:02

you and your situation.

01:44:03 --> 01:44:05

But what I hear is

01:44:05 --> 01:44:06

the

01:44:07 --> 01:44:09

unfortunate mantra that we

01:44:09 --> 01:44:10

regurgitate of

01:44:11 --> 01:44:13

happy wife, happy life.

01:44:13 --> 01:44:16

So let me make comments to her that

01:44:16 --> 01:44:16

will

01:44:17 --> 01:44:17

appease,

01:44:19 --> 01:44:20

and lead to her happiness

01:44:21 --> 01:44:21

versus

01:44:22 --> 01:44:23

the reality of,

01:44:23 --> 01:44:25

nah, ma, you need to to stay in

01:44:25 --> 01:44:27

shape. Yes. I love how you are with

01:44:27 --> 01:44:28

our children,

01:44:29 --> 01:44:31

but as my wife, I need you to

01:44:31 --> 01:44:32

get on that treadmill.

01:44:33 --> 01:44:35

And that that should be okay for him

01:44:35 --> 01:44:37

to say, and that segues

01:44:37 --> 01:44:40

into what we were discussing earlier in terms

01:44:40 --> 01:44:40

of

01:44:41 --> 01:44:42

why

01:44:42 --> 01:44:44

what are some of the reasons why a

01:44:44 --> 01:44:47

man and the woman he chooses, the other

01:44:47 --> 01:44:47

adult,

01:44:49 --> 01:44:51

would choose to keep the marriage, the second

01:44:51 --> 01:44:52

marriage,

01:44:52 --> 01:44:53

private

01:44:54 --> 01:44:56

because he has evidence

01:44:57 --> 01:45:01

that she is more than likely going to

01:45:01 --> 01:45:02

respond in a manner

01:45:03 --> 01:45:04

that's not healthy

01:45:04 --> 01:45:05

for the family,

01:45:06 --> 01:45:08

not healthy for herself,

01:45:09 --> 01:45:10

nor healthy for our relationship.

01:45:12 --> 01:45:14

And so that's why I was saying earlier

01:45:14 --> 01:45:15

that this

01:45:16 --> 01:45:16

perspective

01:45:16 --> 01:45:17

of labeling

01:45:18 --> 01:45:21

a man as a coward because he chooses

01:45:21 --> 01:45:22

to keep

01:45:22 --> 01:45:26

his second marriage or 3rd or 4th private

01:45:27 --> 01:45:28

is intellectually

01:45:28 --> 01:45:31

dishonest and emotionally immature.

01:45:32 --> 01:45:34

More than likely, what has happened is

01:45:35 --> 01:45:38

for the duration of your marriage, he's taken

01:45:38 --> 01:45:39

assessment,

01:45:40 --> 01:45:41

There's been a temperature check

01:45:42 --> 01:45:43

on how you handle

01:45:44 --> 01:45:46

not getting what you want,

01:45:47 --> 01:45:48

how you handle

01:45:48 --> 01:45:49

discomfort.

01:45:50 --> 01:45:52

And so now when this issue has come

01:45:52 --> 01:45:53

up,

01:45:54 --> 01:45:56

he's made a logical

01:45:58 --> 01:45:58

a logical

01:45:59 --> 01:45:59

informed

01:46:00 --> 01:46:00

choice

01:46:01 --> 01:46:02

to keep it private

01:46:03 --> 01:46:04

versus

01:46:04 --> 01:46:05

telling

01:46:05 --> 01:46:07

you because of the history of evidence that

01:46:07 --> 01:46:08

he has.

01:46:09 --> 01:46:11

Now you may not agree with that logical

01:46:11 --> 01:46:12

choice,

01:46:12 --> 01:46:15

but it can still be logical to him

01:46:15 --> 01:46:18

based off of the evidence that he has

01:46:18 --> 01:46:20

of how you will handle

01:46:21 --> 01:46:21

discomfort.

01:46:23 --> 01:46:25

So saying that he's a coward

01:46:25 --> 01:46:27

is really a cop out

01:46:28 --> 01:46:28

versus

01:46:29 --> 01:46:30

having the humility

01:46:31 --> 01:46:32

to say,

01:46:32 --> 01:46:35

what have I shown him in our marriage

01:46:36 --> 01:46:38

that would lead him to think

01:46:39 --> 01:46:41

that the best option is to not tell

01:46:41 --> 01:46:42

me.

01:46:43 --> 01:46:45

Mhmm. See, that's accountability.

01:46:46 --> 01:46:47

It's accountability

01:46:48 --> 01:46:51

to find out my husband has chosen

01:46:51 --> 01:46:54

to engage in a halal

01:46:54 --> 01:46:55

marriage,

01:46:55 --> 01:46:57

but kept it private from me.

01:46:58 --> 01:46:59

What would make him

01:47:00 --> 01:47:03

is there anything that I've done that has

01:47:03 --> 01:47:04

demonstrated

01:47:04 --> 01:47:05

to him

01:47:06 --> 01:47:07

that he should do that?

01:47:08 --> 01:47:10

Alright. I'm gonna give you the pushback that

01:47:10 --> 01:47:11

everybody wants

01:47:12 --> 01:47:15

on this particular issue. Right? Because I know

01:47:15 --> 01:47:17

that, you know, if a clip of this

01:47:17 --> 01:47:18

went out into the atmosphere,

01:47:19 --> 01:47:22

the first thing would be, he should not

01:47:22 --> 01:47:25

have done it. You are blaming the victim.

01:47:25 --> 01:47:26

You are gaslighting,

01:47:26 --> 01:47:29

and you're telling sisters it is their fault

01:47:29 --> 01:47:32

that their husband went and took a wife

01:47:32 --> 01:47:34

behind their back. How do you respond to

01:47:34 --> 01:47:34

that?

01:47:35 --> 01:47:36

So first and foremost, when you clip it,

01:47:36 --> 01:47:38

just make sure you you direct them to

01:47:38 --> 01:47:40

my Instagram, nasiralimn,

01:47:40 --> 01:47:41

nasiralimn,

01:47:44 --> 01:47:45

and on YouTube,

01:47:45 --> 01:47:48

same first and last name. Follow a

01:47:48 --> 01:47:50

brother. Like as well.

01:47:50 --> 01:47:52

So what I would say is this. That's

01:47:52 --> 01:47:53

not emotionally

01:47:54 --> 01:47:55

sound logic.

01:47:55 --> 01:47:56

Meaning,

01:47:58 --> 01:47:59

the brother has to

01:48:00 --> 01:48:00

accept

01:48:01 --> 01:48:02

accountability

01:48:02 --> 01:48:03

for his choice.

01:48:04 --> 01:48:06

What I'm referring to is

01:48:07 --> 01:48:08

the logic

01:48:08 --> 01:48:11

behind the choice, how he got there,

01:48:12 --> 01:48:14

And how he got there is an assessment

01:48:15 --> 01:48:18

of the experience he's had with you throughout

01:48:18 --> 01:48:19

the marriage.

01:48:20 --> 01:48:20

Now

01:48:21 --> 01:48:22

as I've always said,

01:48:23 --> 01:48:25

the feeling is always valid.

01:48:26 --> 01:48:30

Right? But the thinking that underpins emotions can

01:48:30 --> 01:48:31

can can be accurate

01:48:32 --> 01:48:32

or not.

01:48:33 --> 01:48:35

And so his evaluation

01:48:36 --> 01:48:37

may not be accurate,

01:48:38 --> 01:48:41

but that doesn't mean it's not logical.

01:48:42 --> 01:48:42

Meaning,

01:48:42 --> 01:48:45

he's taken the evidence that he's seen from

01:48:45 --> 01:48:48

you that demonstrates that you know what? She's

01:48:48 --> 01:48:51

made this comment here that when her girlfriend's

01:48:51 --> 01:48:51

husband

01:48:52 --> 01:48:55

took a second wife, she praised her for

01:48:55 --> 01:48:56

destroying the family

01:48:57 --> 01:48:59

or throwing things Right. Or peck at the

01:48:59 --> 01:49:00

kids and leaving.

01:49:01 --> 01:49:01

Right?

01:49:02 --> 01:49:05

She praised that. So that's evidence for him

01:49:05 --> 01:49:07

that if I do the

01:49:08 --> 01:49:10

same, regardless of who the sister is, how

01:49:10 --> 01:49:12

she can be a asset to the family,

01:49:12 --> 01:49:14

how she can be a asset to our

01:49:14 --> 01:49:16

kids, how she can be a asset to

01:49:16 --> 01:49:16

me,

01:49:17 --> 01:49:19

she's still going to cause

01:49:19 --> 01:49:23

a disturbance. She's still going to create drama

01:49:24 --> 01:49:25

because throughout our marriage,

01:49:26 --> 01:49:27

she's praised

01:49:27 --> 01:49:30

the drama that other women have engaged in.

01:49:31 --> 01:49:32

That's evidence.

01:49:32 --> 01:49:35

So in the model, we always want to

01:49:35 --> 01:49:39

challenge our thinking, our thoughts, our hypotheses that

01:49:39 --> 01:49:41

we make about what's happening.

01:49:41 --> 01:49:44

They're hypotheses about ourselves, others, and life conditions.

01:49:45 --> 01:49:46

So we make a hypothesis.

01:49:47 --> 01:49:49

We have to test it out. The one

01:49:49 --> 01:49:50

of the one of the ways in which

01:49:50 --> 01:49:52

you test it out is

01:49:53 --> 01:49:54

you look for evidence.

01:49:54 --> 01:49:56

What is the evidence

01:49:56 --> 01:49:57

for

01:49:57 --> 01:49:58

or against

01:49:59 --> 01:50:01

what I'm thinking? What is the evidence

01:50:02 --> 01:50:02

for

01:50:03 --> 01:50:06

me choosing to have a private marriage, or

01:50:06 --> 01:50:07

what is the evidence

01:50:07 --> 01:50:08

against it?

01:50:09 --> 01:50:12

So he's looking at the evidence that you've

01:50:12 --> 01:50:13

given him throughout

01:50:13 --> 01:50:14

the marriage.

01:50:14 --> 01:50:17

Now later on, you guys can discuss that

01:50:17 --> 01:50:19

if the way he evaluated

01:50:19 --> 01:50:22

was healthy or not. But the point that

01:50:22 --> 01:50:23

I'm making is

01:50:23 --> 01:50:26

he's making an informed decision

01:50:26 --> 01:50:28

based off actions you've taken.

01:50:29 --> 01:50:31

The question that's the challenge for sisters

01:50:32 --> 01:50:33

is this.

01:50:34 --> 01:50:35

Are you willing

01:50:35 --> 01:50:37

to do a self assessment

01:50:38 --> 01:50:39

of yourself,

01:50:40 --> 01:50:42

what you think, feel, say, and do

01:50:42 --> 01:50:44

in relation to polygyny.

01:50:45 --> 01:50:48

What have you shown your husband throughout the

01:50:48 --> 01:50:49

duration of the marriage

01:50:49 --> 01:50:51

is going to be your response.

01:50:52 --> 01:50:54

Because if you've demonstrated,

01:50:55 --> 01:50:58

it is an act, I would say,

01:50:58 --> 01:50:59

generally speaking.

01:51:01 --> 01:51:03

A general sense, I would say, it is

01:51:03 --> 01:51:05

an act of concern that he is making

01:51:05 --> 01:51:08

an informed decision, I e, he's looking at

01:51:08 --> 01:51:09

how you responded

01:51:10 --> 01:51:12

and then make an informed decision,

01:51:12 --> 01:51:14

not a hasty decision.

01:51:14 --> 01:51:16

What's a hasty decision is when you find

01:51:16 --> 01:51:18

out that he has

01:51:18 --> 01:51:20

a second, 3rd, or 4th wife, because we

01:51:20 --> 01:51:23

can't have 4. When you find that out

01:51:23 --> 01:51:25

and then you start causing drama,

01:51:26 --> 01:51:28

that's not healthy for your kids to see.

01:51:29 --> 01:51:32

That's not healthy for the relationship between you

01:51:32 --> 01:51:32

and your husband.

01:51:34 --> 01:51:35

That's hastiness.

01:51:36 --> 01:51:39

What you are lacking is not making an

01:51:39 --> 01:51:41

informed decision of saying, you know what? I

01:51:41 --> 01:51:43

don't like the fact that he's taken a

01:51:43 --> 01:51:45

second wife, but let me look at how

01:51:45 --> 01:51:48

he has been as a husband up until

01:51:48 --> 01:51:51

this point. Yeah. And here's the sober reality.

01:51:53 --> 01:51:55

At my age and with these kids,

01:51:56 --> 01:51:58

can I honestly get better?

01:51:59 --> 01:52:01

If I went out on the market right

01:52:01 --> 01:52:02

now,

01:52:03 --> 01:52:05

can do I have the leverage

01:52:05 --> 01:52:08

to get better than what I have right

01:52:08 --> 01:52:10

now? Some of y'all need to stay at

01:52:10 --> 01:52:11

home.

01:52:12 --> 01:52:13

You know what?

01:52:13 --> 01:52:14

What you have.

01:52:14 --> 01:52:16

You know, I just say to You go

01:52:16 --> 01:52:17

out on these streets,

01:52:19 --> 01:52:21

Don't don't let don't let IG

01:52:22 --> 01:52:24

and brothers looking at your pictures

01:52:24 --> 01:52:25

get it twisted.

01:52:26 --> 01:52:28

You got on these streets post 35 with

01:52:28 --> 01:52:28

kids.

01:52:29 --> 01:52:31

It's cold out there. It's a cold winter.

01:52:33 --> 01:52:33

2 things.

01:52:34 --> 01:52:36

One is I agree.

01:52:36 --> 01:52:38

I wanna cosign on what brother Nasiv said

01:52:38 --> 01:52:39

about,

01:52:39 --> 01:52:40

you know, sisters,

01:52:41 --> 01:52:41

wives,

01:52:42 --> 01:52:44

initial wives being strategic.

01:52:45 --> 01:52:47

Right? And I know her sister said to

01:52:47 --> 01:52:49

you, she's a message for you to say,

01:52:49 --> 01:52:49

please

01:52:50 --> 01:52:53

please be merciful in your delivery. We are

01:52:53 --> 01:52:54

emotional beings,

01:52:55 --> 01:52:58

and how you say things matters, Yani Marish.

01:52:58 --> 01:52:59

But what I wanna say

01:52:59 --> 01:53:00

is,

01:53:02 --> 01:53:04

although it can be very difficult, sisters,

01:53:05 --> 01:53:05

to

01:53:06 --> 01:53:06

regulate

01:53:07 --> 01:53:10

those emotions, especially when it just feels like

01:53:10 --> 01:53:11

it's taking over.

01:53:11 --> 01:53:12

It's worth

01:53:13 --> 01:53:14

putting in the time now

01:53:15 --> 01:53:18

to just learn to recognize

01:53:18 --> 01:53:19

the thinking

01:53:19 --> 01:53:22

that is producing the emotion. So for example,

01:53:22 --> 01:53:24

in this comment here, I think her reaction

01:53:24 --> 01:53:26

is why he keeps it a secret. I

01:53:26 --> 01:53:29

feel like many wives automatically think she's getting

01:53:29 --> 01:53:31

number 2 because she's lacking in something or

01:53:31 --> 01:53:34

because wife number 2 brings something, wife number

01:53:34 --> 01:53:36

1 never will. So the first thing I

01:53:36 --> 01:53:38

want to say about this is that this

01:53:38 --> 01:53:39

is this is a thought. It's a story

01:53:39 --> 01:53:42

that you're telling yourself. Right? He's getting the

01:53:42 --> 01:53:43

second one because I'm lacking,

01:53:44 --> 01:53:47

or this second wife is bringing something that

01:53:47 --> 01:53:48

I never will. So the first thing is

01:53:48 --> 01:53:50

that these are stories that you're choosing to

01:53:50 --> 01:53:52

tell yourself, and they're gonna make you feel

01:53:52 --> 01:53:54

a particular way. But then the other thing,

01:53:55 --> 01:53:57

I want to lean into this.

01:53:57 --> 01:53:59

Because what if it's a true story?

01:53:59 --> 01:54:00

Right?

01:54:00 --> 01:54:01

What if

01:54:03 --> 01:54:04

you are lacking something?

01:54:05 --> 01:54:06

Is that okay?

01:54:08 --> 01:54:09

Is it okay

01:54:09 --> 01:54:10

to not be perfect?

01:54:11 --> 01:54:13

Is it not is it okay to not

01:54:13 --> 01:54:14

be the 100%

01:54:15 --> 01:54:16

full package?

01:54:16 --> 01:54:19

Is it okay to accept that your husband

01:54:19 --> 01:54:20

has needs that you cannot fulfill?

01:54:21 --> 01:54:23

Can you be okay with that? That's the

01:54:23 --> 01:54:24

first thing. And then in the case of

01:54:24 --> 01:54:25

the second comment,

01:54:27 --> 01:54:28

is it possible

01:54:29 --> 01:54:29

that

01:54:30 --> 01:54:32

another woman can bring something

01:54:32 --> 01:54:33

of value

01:54:33 --> 01:54:36

to your husband's life that you either cannot

01:54:37 --> 01:54:38

or do not want to bring.

01:54:39 --> 01:54:40

Is that possible?

01:54:41 --> 01:54:43

And can you be okay with that?

01:54:43 --> 01:54:45

Because if and I this is the advice

01:54:45 --> 01:54:47

I give across the board.

01:54:47 --> 01:54:49

If your husband is a good man and

01:54:49 --> 01:54:52

if you all you guys have a stable

01:54:52 --> 01:54:56

home, your relationship is is nanny normal, is

01:54:56 --> 01:54:57

within the bounds of normal,

01:54:58 --> 01:55:00

and it's a good place to be, Aslan.

01:55:00 --> 01:55:01

Right?

01:55:02 --> 01:55:02

Don't

01:55:03 --> 01:55:04

you be the one

01:55:04 --> 01:55:06

to break up that hunger?

01:55:07 --> 01:55:10

That's if he marries again, whether he tells

01:55:10 --> 01:55:11

you he wants to do it, whether he

01:55:11 --> 01:55:13

does it and tells you after, whether you

01:55:13 --> 01:55:14

find out, whatever the case may be,

01:55:15 --> 01:55:15

please sisters,

01:55:16 --> 01:55:17

do not be the one

01:55:18 --> 01:55:19

to break up the home.

01:55:20 --> 01:55:23

And, you may like it when I put

01:55:23 --> 01:55:25

it this way. That's your house.

01:55:26 --> 01:55:30

That's your marriage. That's 5, 10, 15 years

01:55:30 --> 01:55:33

in. That's your kids that have a father

01:55:34 --> 01:55:36

and a mother and a home together. Why

01:55:36 --> 01:55:37

are you gonna give it up for someone

01:55:37 --> 01:55:38

else?

01:55:39 --> 01:55:40

Because another woman came in the picture, now

01:55:40 --> 01:55:43

you have to, like, destroy everything. Why should

01:55:43 --> 01:55:44

you do that? Sorry. This is a bit

01:55:44 --> 01:55:45

territorial.

01:55:45 --> 01:55:47

This is this is that first wife game.

01:55:47 --> 01:55:48

Okay?

01:55:48 --> 01:55:50

Give to first wives. Like,

01:55:51 --> 01:55:53

why are you gonna just blow up everything

01:55:53 --> 01:55:55

that you've built for the past 5, 10,

01:55:55 --> 01:55:57

15 years? What? Because another woman came on

01:55:57 --> 01:55:59

the scene? If he wanted to leave, he

01:55:59 --> 01:56:00

would have left.

01:56:01 --> 01:56:04

If he wanted to destroy your home, he

01:56:04 --> 01:56:06

would have walked out. So that's clearly not

01:56:06 --> 01:56:08

what he's trying to do. Right? And I'm

01:56:08 --> 01:56:10

I'm giving brothers the benefit of the doubt

01:56:10 --> 01:56:12

here because I know that some brothers be

01:56:12 --> 01:56:13

wilding when it comes to this thing, but

01:56:13 --> 01:56:15

I'm going to give brothers the benefit of

01:56:15 --> 01:56:17

the doubt here that you're a responsible man

01:56:17 --> 01:56:19

who cares about your wife and your kids.

01:56:20 --> 01:56:22

And for whatever reason, you decided to marry

01:56:22 --> 01:56:23

again.

01:56:23 --> 01:56:25

If he wanted to destroy what you guys

01:56:25 --> 01:56:27

have built, he would be moving very differently.

01:56:28 --> 01:56:29

He would have left. He would have kicked

01:56:29 --> 01:56:31

you out. He would have walked out. He

01:56:31 --> 01:56:34

would have divorced you. So that's clearly not

01:56:34 --> 01:56:36

what he's trying to achieve. Don't you be

01:56:36 --> 01:56:38

the one to break things up. Do what

01:56:38 --> 01:56:40

you need to do

01:56:40 --> 01:56:41

in here

01:56:41 --> 01:56:42

and in here

01:56:43 --> 01:56:46

to work through this and see what it

01:56:46 --> 01:56:47

is that Allah

01:56:47 --> 01:56:49

has planned for you and your family,

01:56:50 --> 01:56:53

your husband, and this this this set of

01:56:53 --> 01:56:54

responsibilities

01:56:54 --> 01:56:55

that is now

01:56:57 --> 01:56:59

I wanna say Allah Subhanahu Wa Ta'ala has

01:56:59 --> 01:57:01

given him more responsibility.

01:57:02 --> 01:57:04

Right? Allah Subhanahu Wa Ta'ala has has opened

01:57:04 --> 01:57:05

the door for him

01:57:06 --> 01:57:08

to take on more responsibility and inshallah earn

01:57:08 --> 01:57:09

more reward.

01:57:10 --> 01:57:13

So now the game has changed. Right? Previously,

01:57:13 --> 01:57:15

it was you were the main responsibility and

01:57:15 --> 01:57:17

your children. That was the game. You both

01:57:17 --> 01:57:19

knew it. You played by the rules. Now

01:57:19 --> 01:57:21

Allah Subhanahu Wa Ta'ala has given him a

01:57:21 --> 01:57:21

manah

01:57:22 --> 01:57:25

of another woman and potentially her children. So

01:57:25 --> 01:57:27

now the field of play has changed, but

01:57:27 --> 01:57:29

you still have your role to play and

01:57:29 --> 01:57:32

she has now her role to play. Play

01:57:32 --> 01:57:33

your part.

01:57:34 --> 01:57:36

Play your role in the game

01:57:36 --> 01:57:38

so that you can win for doing your

01:57:38 --> 01:57:38

wafid.

01:57:39 --> 01:57:40

And Allah knows best.

01:57:42 --> 01:57:43

And I think I think there's something to

01:57:43 --> 01:57:45

be said, and I I don't think we

01:57:45 --> 01:57:47

talk about I I I have not heard

01:57:47 --> 01:57:48

this, and I can

01:57:51 --> 01:57:53

I I I cannot think of a time,

01:57:53 --> 01:57:54

and maybe you have because

01:57:54 --> 01:57:55

you're you're a sister?

01:57:57 --> 01:58:00

I have not heard a discussion around

01:58:02 --> 01:58:03

the cost,

01:58:04 --> 01:58:06

the cost spiritually,

01:58:07 --> 01:58:08

the cost in terms of your

01:58:09 --> 01:58:11

relationship with your lord and your faith

01:58:12 --> 01:58:13

around being the first

01:58:14 --> 01:58:15

and trying to

01:58:15 --> 01:58:16

destroy

01:58:16 --> 01:58:18

your husband's second marriage.

01:58:19 --> 01:58:20

Because,

01:58:20 --> 01:58:21

like,

01:58:22 --> 01:58:25

any woman or any person that tries to

01:58:25 --> 01:58:28

destroy destroy a marriage that calls a divorce,

01:58:28 --> 01:58:31

we would view that as as haram. Like,

01:58:31 --> 01:58:33

this is you don't do it.

01:58:33 --> 01:58:36

But I really about it and shaytan. Shaytan

01:58:36 --> 01:58:39

loves the the shayateen that does that come

01:58:39 --> 01:58:40

between a man and his wife. It doesn't

01:58:40 --> 01:58:42

say between a man and his only wife

01:58:42 --> 01:58:44

or his first wife. It says a man

01:58:44 --> 01:58:44

and his wife.

01:58:45 --> 01:58:47

So that's a really good reminder, brother. I

01:58:47 --> 01:58:49

hadn't even thought about that.

01:58:50 --> 01:58:52

And and I I I can't I can't

01:58:52 --> 01:58:54

speak for you, but I've never really heard

01:58:54 --> 01:58:55

that conversation

01:58:56 --> 01:58:59

in terms of sister, first wife. Look. I

01:58:59 --> 01:59:02

I understand that it's not what you wanted,

01:59:02 --> 01:59:03

but be mindful

01:59:04 --> 01:59:05

of trying

01:59:06 --> 01:59:07

to destroy that marriage

01:59:08 --> 01:59:09

because there are repercussions

01:59:09 --> 01:59:10

to that.

01:59:12 --> 01:59:14

Right? We don't hear that conversation. Yeah. It's

01:59:14 --> 01:59:17

true. It's true. No. Because the the conversation

01:59:17 --> 01:59:18

is. And these are some of the things,

01:59:18 --> 01:59:20

right, that we that we see in the

01:59:20 --> 01:59:22

in the community. The conversation is

01:59:23 --> 01:59:26

if she can't handle it, right, and if

01:59:26 --> 01:59:27

the family breaks as a result, it's his

01:59:27 --> 01:59:30

fault. Mhmm. Because he should not have ever

01:59:30 --> 01:59:31

gone there in the first place. That's the

01:59:31 --> 01:59:33

first thing. But then the other thing as

01:59:33 --> 01:59:35

well is I think for you know, if

01:59:35 --> 01:59:36

I'm just gonna speak on behalf of the

01:59:36 --> 01:59:37

body of women,

01:59:38 --> 01:59:41

it is the belief that if he really

01:59:41 --> 01:59:42

loved me, he wouldn't

01:59:43 --> 01:59:43

do

01:59:44 --> 01:59:45

it. Speak to that.

01:59:47 --> 01:59:49

Yeah. I I no. I I think it

01:59:49 --> 01:59:50

I will speak to it from a man's

01:59:50 --> 01:59:52

perspective, but I just think from

01:59:54 --> 01:59:56

actually, let me think of it. Let me

01:59:56 --> 01:59:57

approach it from

01:59:58 --> 02:00:00

a counseling coaching perspective.

02:00:01 --> 02:00:03

No. We want the male perspective because that's

02:00:03 --> 02:00:04

the right perspective.

02:00:05 --> 02:00:07

We want the male perspective here.

02:00:07 --> 02:00:09

So my job is finished because I got

02:00:09 --> 02:00:11

you to repeat it. So look.

02:00:12 --> 02:00:14

It's that CBT, guys. It's Pavlov's dog. You

02:00:14 --> 02:00:16

know, I'm just being conditioned here right now.

02:00:16 --> 02:00:18

Now. This is grooming. Okay? So Katie didn't

02:00:18 --> 02:00:19

know. There you go.

02:00:20 --> 02:00:22

So what I what I would say is

02:00:22 --> 02:00:24

and it speaks to what we've talked about

02:00:24 --> 02:00:26

a number of times before and you mentioned

02:00:26 --> 02:00:29

earlier, that's a narrative that you've told yourself.

02:00:30 --> 02:00:31

Right?

02:00:31 --> 02:00:35

And because you're telling yourself that narrative that

02:00:35 --> 02:00:37

he does not love me, hence, he took

02:00:37 --> 02:00:41

a second wife, That's a narrative. That's the

02:00:41 --> 02:00:41

evaluation

02:00:41 --> 02:00:45

you made after the perception of him getting

02:00:45 --> 02:00:47

married. So you got the new information. Cultural

02:00:47 --> 02:00:50

narrative. That's the cultural narrative. It's not even

02:00:50 --> 02:00:53

an just an individual one. The cultural narrative,

02:00:54 --> 02:00:56

if your husband loves you, he would never

02:00:56 --> 02:00:57

do that to you.

02:00:58 --> 02:01:00

So how do we you know? We

02:01:01 --> 02:01:02

right. Right.

02:01:03 --> 02:01:06

So we can choose what cultural narratives we

02:01:06 --> 02:01:08

want to embrace. We do that every day.

02:01:09 --> 02:01:12

Right? So we can choose that. And so

02:01:12 --> 02:01:14

we we we expect

02:01:15 --> 02:01:16

men to

02:01:17 --> 02:01:18

make healthy choices,

02:01:18 --> 02:01:20

so we also have to expect that women

02:01:20 --> 02:01:22

will make healthy choices.

02:01:23 --> 02:01:23

And

02:01:24 --> 02:01:26

choosing not to follow that narrative,

02:01:27 --> 02:01:31

that love can only look this way in

02:01:31 --> 02:01:31

a marriage.

02:01:32 --> 02:01:36

Right? That's unhealthy. That's not a helpful narrative.

02:01:36 --> 02:01:38

It speaks to what we're talking about before

02:01:38 --> 02:01:39

when you make this demand

02:01:40 --> 02:01:43

that your spouse, your partner has to express

02:01:44 --> 02:01:44

love,

02:01:45 --> 02:01:48

his affection for you in a certain way.

02:01:48 --> 02:01:50

And if it doesn't, then it doesn't count

02:01:50 --> 02:01:53

as love. If it doesn't meet my love

02:01:53 --> 02:01:53

language,

02:01:54 --> 02:01:55

then it's not considered

02:01:56 --> 02:01:58

as him expressing love to me.

02:01:59 --> 02:01:59

Right?

02:02:00 --> 02:02:02

And so I e, if he engages in

02:02:02 --> 02:02:04

polygyny, then it's automatically

02:02:05 --> 02:02:07

a indication that he doesn't love me. And

02:02:07 --> 02:02:10

that's a narrative. And that narrative has to

02:02:10 --> 02:02:10

be challenged.

02:02:12 --> 02:02:14

And it's on the sister to do that.

02:02:14 --> 02:02:17

Right? Because she creates that narrative.

02:02:17 --> 02:02:20

And and a point a point to earlier

02:02:20 --> 02:02:22

that you that you mentioned that I think

02:02:22 --> 02:02:23

is very important,

02:02:23 --> 02:02:25

It says is don't put that pressure on

02:02:25 --> 02:02:28

yourself that you have to be everything

02:02:28 --> 02:02:29

to your husband.

02:02:31 --> 02:02:32

That that that's

02:02:33 --> 02:02:34

unrealistic expectation.

02:02:36 --> 02:02:38

That's that's very unrealistic,

02:02:39 --> 02:02:42

and that's going to lead to emotional discomfort.

02:02:42 --> 02:02:45

And it's probably going to lead you to

02:02:45 --> 02:02:47

rating and labeling yourself,

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which then will lead to self downing. And

02:02:50 --> 02:02:52

then you fall into the rabbit hole of

02:02:52 --> 02:02:53

anxiety

02:02:53 --> 02:02:54

and or depression.

02:02:55 --> 02:02:58

Anxiety that now I have him, how do

02:02:58 --> 02:02:59

I keep him?

02:02:59 --> 02:03:02

Right? Ain't nobody thinking about that. No. No.

02:03:02 --> 02:03:04

No. No. No. No. Yeah. That's that that's

02:03:04 --> 02:03:06

that Nobody cared about that.

02:03:06 --> 02:03:07

That's that undercurrent

02:03:08 --> 02:03:10

of a core belief

02:03:10 --> 02:03:12

that's showing itself

02:03:12 --> 02:03:15

in protective behavior, mate guarding.

02:03:16 --> 02:03:19

Right? Right. The mate guarding is the external

02:03:19 --> 02:03:19

action

02:03:20 --> 02:03:23

that's underpinned though by that fear of losing.

02:03:24 --> 02:03:26

Right? That anxiety of being alone.

02:03:28 --> 02:03:28

Right?

02:03:29 --> 02:03:31

And so I I would just say, sis,

02:03:31 --> 02:03:34

don't don't put that pressure on yourself that

02:03:34 --> 02:03:35

you have to,

02:03:36 --> 02:03:38

be everything to your husband.

02:03:38 --> 02:03:40

Because I think a healthy man

02:03:41 --> 02:03:43

is not expecting for you to be everything

02:03:43 --> 02:03:44

to him.

02:03:45 --> 02:03:46

And, hence,

02:03:46 --> 02:03:48

there may be another woman

02:03:49 --> 02:03:51

that can provide things for him that he

02:03:51 --> 02:03:53

doesn't necessarily expect you to provide.

02:03:56 --> 02:03:58

Which in its own way is,

02:03:59 --> 02:04:00

is merciful,

02:04:00 --> 02:04:02

I think. Because being held to a standard

02:04:02 --> 02:04:04

where you are expected to be

02:04:05 --> 02:04:07

every woman and a 100%

02:04:07 --> 02:04:11

in every way is that's pressure. That's, real,

02:04:11 --> 02:04:11

real pressure,

02:04:12 --> 02:04:13

Yeah. Yeah.

02:04:13 --> 02:04:16

Especially as a man grows and and develops.

02:04:16 --> 02:04:17

Right? He

02:04:18 --> 02:04:19

what he may

02:04:19 --> 02:04:23

value and be interested in at 25 may

02:04:23 --> 02:04:26

not be the same thing he's interested in

02:04:26 --> 02:04:27

at 35 or 40.

02:04:29 --> 02:04:32

Right? And he can't demand of you to

02:04:33 --> 02:04:33

be that

02:04:34 --> 02:04:36

if that's not where you were at when

02:04:36 --> 02:04:37

you both got married.

02:04:39 --> 02:04:42

That call lines are open. Oh, yes. We

02:04:42 --> 02:04:44

can't do it, brother. That call lines are

02:04:44 --> 02:04:45

open.

02:04:46 --> 02:04:48

I I look. Sister Leila, I think you

02:04:48 --> 02:04:50

hit it on the head. It boils down

02:04:50 --> 02:04:51

to

02:04:51 --> 02:04:53

actually, can you read this, please?

02:04:57 --> 02:04:59

Goes down to what brother Nasir said about

02:04:59 --> 02:05:01

tolerance and emotional regulation

02:05:01 --> 02:05:04

and accept Allah's decree number 1.

02:05:05 --> 02:05:06

Okay.

02:05:08 --> 02:05:09

Alright, guys.

02:05:09 --> 02:05:10

The best perspective.

02:05:10 --> 02:05:13

It's Nasiv's perspective, not the male perspective.

02:05:14 --> 02:05:14

Okay.

02:05:15 --> 02:05:17

Right, guys. Calls the lines are open. The

02:05:17 --> 02:05:19

link is in the chat. Who wants to

02:05:19 --> 02:05:20

join us? Man.

02:05:23 --> 02:05:25

You can't just identify with whatever you wanna

02:05:25 --> 02:05:27

identify without hearing. What is a man anyway?

02:05:30 --> 02:05:33

Right. Whitney could not handle being every woman.

02:05:33 --> 02:05:36

This is very true. Sad. Oh. Sad but

02:05:36 --> 02:05:36

true.

02:05:37 --> 02:05:39

And that that's a very good point. But,

02:05:39 --> 02:05:41

so a couple of things that you mentioned

02:05:41 --> 02:05:43

earlier that I wanted to speak to that,

02:05:43 --> 02:05:45

I I I want to address.

02:05:47 --> 02:05:49

One of them, when we're talking about

02:05:50 --> 02:05:52

the drama, the comment that said the drama

02:05:52 --> 02:05:55

of polygyny could be what leads to *.

02:05:55 --> 02:05:57

And you made a very good point about

02:05:57 --> 02:05:58

questioning

02:05:59 --> 02:06:01

the drama of various things.

02:06:01 --> 02:06:04

One of the things that I, as I

02:06:04 --> 02:06:06

see as I work with sisters, is,

02:06:06 --> 02:06:09

are you also holding that same that same

02:06:09 --> 02:06:10

standard to

02:06:11 --> 02:06:12

the drama of dating?

02:06:14 --> 02:06:18

Right? Because so many are engaged in this

02:06:19 --> 02:06:20

dating thing.

02:06:21 --> 02:06:21

Right?

02:06:22 --> 02:06:24

So what about the drama of that?

02:06:25 --> 02:06:26

Just

02:06:26 --> 02:06:28

a point. You can jump in on that

02:06:28 --> 02:06:29

if you would.

02:06:29 --> 02:06:30

I'm on my hill.

02:06:31 --> 02:06:33

I'm on my hill. Okay.

02:06:35 --> 02:06:36

Both them team there. Okay. So I may

02:06:36 --> 02:06:38

not talk about it. May not chat about

02:06:38 --> 02:06:40

it. Sister Joerrey is here to join us.

02:06:42 --> 02:06:44

What have you got?

02:06:46 --> 02:06:47

To both of you.

02:06:47 --> 02:06:49

You guys raised a really really good point

02:06:49 --> 02:06:50

on all the subjects

02:06:51 --> 02:06:54

and I just there was one thing as

02:06:54 --> 02:06:56

a as a father and a master said

02:06:56 --> 02:06:58

sorry if I'm saying my name wrong.

02:07:00 --> 02:07:02

I'm basically I'm a married. I'm in

02:07:03 --> 02:07:03

mid

02:07:04 --> 02:07:05

let's say 35 I think at the moment.

02:07:06 --> 02:07:08

So there was a time when I really

02:07:08 --> 02:07:10

wanted to get married young and then you

02:07:10 --> 02:07:11

know I tried everything

02:07:12 --> 02:07:13

I put in the work, I put in

02:07:13 --> 02:07:15

the effort, but Allahu Alam, it just wasn't

02:07:15 --> 02:07:17

in it for me. It just wasn't written

02:07:17 --> 02:07:18

for me. So sometimes

02:07:19 --> 02:07:21

sisters do try to to put in the

02:07:21 --> 02:07:22

effort, but sometimes it's not just written for

02:07:22 --> 02:07:24

them at the time. So that's one thing

02:07:24 --> 02:07:26

we need to acknowledge that, you know, it's

02:07:26 --> 02:07:28

not it's not your time just yet.

02:07:29 --> 02:07:31

It's true. And one of the things was

02:07:31 --> 02:07:33

when when I was to conduct the polygamy,

02:07:34 --> 02:07:35

I was open to it, but one of

02:07:35 --> 02:07:37

my conditions was

02:07:37 --> 02:07:39

I would prefer he informed me before he

02:07:39 --> 02:07:40

did it.

02:07:41 --> 02:07:43

Mhmm. Because I didn't want the whole community

02:07:44 --> 02:07:45

to be gossiping about what my husband is

02:07:45 --> 02:07:47

doing behind my back.

02:07:47 --> 02:07:49

Even if I if I'm upset or I

02:07:49 --> 02:07:51

agree with it, I can't say no because

02:07:51 --> 02:07:53

I like I like gave him the choice

02:07:53 --> 02:07:56

and it's hello. And if he get married,

02:07:56 --> 02:07:57

and as I used to say to my

02:07:57 --> 02:07:59

mom, it would take the pressure off me.

02:08:04 --> 02:08:06

Let's be honest. Let's be honest. Let's be

02:08:06 --> 02:08:08

honest. When you're a mother, when you've got

02:08:08 --> 02:08:10

kids, when you've got housework, when you've got

02:08:10 --> 02:08:12

so much things, and sometimes you've the you

02:08:12 --> 02:08:14

know, the husband comes, he's like, sit you

02:08:14 --> 02:08:15

know, come on. Let's go. And, yeah, I'm

02:08:15 --> 02:08:16

not in the mood tonight. Can you, you

02:08:16 --> 02:08:18

know you can be I'm not in the

02:08:18 --> 02:08:19

mood, but, you know, she might be in

02:08:19 --> 02:08:21

the mood. Why don't you go visit her

02:08:21 --> 02:08:21

tonight?

02:08:23 --> 02:08:23

Outsource.

02:08:24 --> 02:08:26

Outsource. Tell you. Well, you could've yes.

02:08:27 --> 02:08:30

Outsource. Some of the best companies have become

02:08:30 --> 02:08:30

successful.

02:08:31 --> 02:08:32

Yes. Outsource.

02:08:33 --> 02:08:36

Yes. Yes. Go ahead. You would outsource intimacy

02:08:36 --> 02:08:38

with your husband. No.

02:08:39 --> 02:08:41

No. No. Let's No.

02:08:42 --> 02:08:43

No.

02:08:45 --> 02:08:46

No. No. No. He might be in the

02:08:46 --> 02:08:48

mood. He might have decided, but you're tired.

02:08:48 --> 02:08:50

You're not in the mood. So I'm sorry.

02:08:50 --> 02:08:52

Is Halal is is Halal is Halal fame

02:08:52 --> 02:08:54

too, you know? Is Halal fame the same

02:08:54 --> 02:08:56

as me? Yeah. Yeah.

02:08:56 --> 02:08:57

I like it.

02:08:58 --> 02:08:59

He he can get it from there, and,

02:08:59 --> 02:09:01

you know, I get a night off. I

02:09:01 --> 02:09:02

I have a really nice sleep sleep when

02:09:02 --> 02:09:04

the kids wake me up in the morning.

02:09:04 --> 02:09:08

Yeah. Yeah. And look. Look. All this is

02:09:08 --> 02:09:11

is following tradition of Yeah. One of the

02:09:11 --> 02:09:12

wives of the prophet

02:09:12 --> 02:09:16

who gave her nights over to Aisha, if

02:09:16 --> 02:09:16

I'm not mistaken.

02:09:17 --> 02:09:19

Yes. So but that's what I mean. There's

02:09:19 --> 02:09:21

a lot of good people tend to focus.

02:09:21 --> 02:09:24

I my parents were in a monogamous marriage.

02:09:24 --> 02:09:25

I mean, polygamy marriage.

02:09:26 --> 02:09:28

And since my mom was like a second

02:09:28 --> 02:09:29

wife.

02:09:29 --> 02:09:32

So, Masha, they were really I I watched

02:09:32 --> 02:09:34

them my parents been married, like, 40 years.

02:09:34 --> 02:09:36

I've watched them. I've yeah.

02:09:37 --> 02:09:38

And she married quite young. She was, like,

02:09:38 --> 02:09:40

16 when she married. She had me 17.

02:09:41 --> 02:09:42

So yeah. So

02:09:43 --> 02:09:44

and I watched it, and I saw and

02:09:44 --> 02:09:45

I saw how

02:09:46 --> 02:09:48

it was working. How they were the how

02:09:48 --> 02:09:50

the women were towards each other. How did

02:09:50 --> 02:09:52

how they will behave towards each other. That

02:09:52 --> 02:09:54

for me gave me, like, okay. That's the

02:09:54 --> 02:09:56

right way to do it. Lot of people

02:09:56 --> 02:09:59

tend to see the bad. Yes. And also

02:09:59 --> 02:10:01

because women like, oh, he married oh, he's

02:10:01 --> 02:10:03

married another one. What's wrong with you kind

02:10:03 --> 02:10:04

of thing?

02:10:04 --> 02:10:05

You know? Women can be the worst, you

02:10:05 --> 02:10:08

know. Women can be Women are we are

02:10:08 --> 02:10:10

all we are our worst enemies to our

02:10:10 --> 02:10:11

sisters.

02:10:11 --> 02:10:13

When we see a something going good for

02:10:13 --> 02:10:15

a sister, right, saying, Masha'Allah,

02:10:16 --> 02:10:17

we attacking her.

02:10:18 --> 02:10:20

We we literally we we like, oh, like,

02:10:20 --> 02:10:22

let's see. Maybe we see a sister who

02:10:22 --> 02:10:24

going through, she's not married. So today's what's

02:10:24 --> 02:10:25

wrong with her? Why does no one wanna

02:10:25 --> 02:10:28

her marry her or whatnot? Maybe, you know,

02:10:28 --> 02:10:30

she she might not be ready or just

02:10:30 --> 02:10:33

didn't work. And like brother, brother Lou said,

02:10:33 --> 02:10:35

some at a certain age, you do hit

02:10:35 --> 02:10:35

a wall.

02:10:36 --> 02:10:38

I'm not when I was 20

02:10:38 --> 02:10:39

and early,

02:10:39 --> 02:10:42

late teens, the the what I was getting,

02:10:42 --> 02:10:44

the proposals, the people coming to my parents,

02:10:44 --> 02:10:46

It's not as as it would.

02:10:46 --> 02:10:48

You know? So let me ask you, sis.

02:10:48 --> 02:10:49

So can I may I just ask you

02:10:49 --> 02:10:51

just, like, if you don't mind?

02:10:51 --> 02:10:53

Yeah. Because a lot of the time, I

02:10:53 --> 02:10:55

know in the conversations about this sort of

02:10:55 --> 02:10:58

outside of the Muslim community. Right? Yeah. There

02:10:58 --> 02:11:00

will be women who will say, look. I'm

02:11:00 --> 02:11:00

35.

02:11:00 --> 02:11:03

I never found anyone. Right? It's been this

02:11:03 --> 02:11:06

long, and I never found anybody suitable. And

02:11:06 --> 02:11:07

a lot of the men push back on

02:11:07 --> 02:11:09

that and say, hold on a minute.

02:11:09 --> 02:11:13

I bet you did get decent proposals,

02:11:13 --> 02:11:16

but you thought maybe there's another one coming.

02:11:16 --> 02:11:18

Maybe there's a better one coming. Right? Or

02:11:18 --> 02:11:20

for whatever reason, you didn't lock it down

02:11:20 --> 02:11:23

when you did have decent proposals. Was that

02:11:23 --> 02:11:24

the case with you, do you think, if

02:11:24 --> 02:11:25

you're honest?

02:11:26 --> 02:11:28

There there was quite a few that I

02:11:28 --> 02:11:30

never actually gave a chance because I didn't

02:11:30 --> 02:11:30

like

02:11:31 --> 02:11:33

the the way they looked or the way

02:11:33 --> 02:11:35

they acted. The character, I did not. There

02:11:35 --> 02:11:38

was quite a few that came very close.

02:11:39 --> 02:11:41

One of them, I we spoke my he

02:11:41 --> 02:11:43

met my parents and everything. And when he

02:11:43 --> 02:11:45

was ready, he just disappeared.

02:11:45 --> 02:11:46

He ghosted me.

02:11:47 --> 02:11:49

So and some,

02:11:49 --> 02:11:51

so though I will be honest. There were

02:11:51 --> 02:11:52

times when

02:11:52 --> 02:11:54

people came, but I wasn't in the right

02:11:54 --> 02:11:57

mindset. Right. I feel at that time, and

02:11:57 --> 02:11:59

I'm like, listen. I'm sorry. I can't do

02:11:59 --> 02:12:01

this right now. So yeah.

02:12:01 --> 02:12:03

But the the I'm sure there was some

02:12:03 --> 02:12:03

point where

02:12:04 --> 02:12:05

I didn't my my my mom or my

02:12:05 --> 02:12:07

dad came to me and said, this this

02:12:07 --> 02:12:08

was I was like, no.

02:12:08 --> 02:12:11

Straight away. Because I thought, like, oh, why

02:12:11 --> 02:12:13

are they going through my parents or some

02:12:13 --> 02:12:15

I don't know. I wasn't one of those

02:12:15 --> 02:12:17

rebellious stages where I didn't wanna hear it,

02:12:17 --> 02:12:20

to be honest. You know what? Hindsight. For

02:12:20 --> 02:12:22

honesty. No. No. No. I appreciate your That

02:12:22 --> 02:12:24

is big things. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. I I

02:12:24 --> 02:12:25

That's amazing.

02:12:27 --> 02:12:29

Yeah. That's thank you so much for that.

02:12:29 --> 02:12:31

Thank you so much for that. And you

02:12:31 --> 02:12:32

know, sis, what you were saying about how

02:12:32 --> 02:12:35

your parents were in a polygamous marriage for

02:12:35 --> 02:12:36

14 years,

02:12:36 --> 02:12:37

That impacts

02:12:37 --> 02:12:40

your ideas about polygyny, doesn't it? And that's

02:12:40 --> 02:12:42

what I was saying is that people base

02:12:42 --> 02:12:45

their ideas about polygyny either on what they've

02:12:45 --> 02:12:45

heard

02:12:46 --> 02:12:48

or a negative experience that they've had. Right?

02:12:48 --> 02:12:51

Or they've seen somebody else go through. But

02:12:51 --> 02:12:52

it's not the institution.

02:12:52 --> 02:12:55

Some people make it work. Some people make

02:12:55 --> 02:12:56

it work beautifully because

02:12:57 --> 02:12:57

40

02:12:59 --> 02:12:59

years?

02:13:00 --> 02:13:00

Yes.

02:13:02 --> 02:13:05

Yeah. And sometimes people talk about how monogamy

02:13:05 --> 02:13:07

is the best. It's sometimes it's not. I've

02:13:07 --> 02:13:08

seen monogamy marriage

02:13:09 --> 02:13:12

get destroyed for something little or because they

02:13:12 --> 02:13:14

couldn't communicate properly or

02:13:14 --> 02:13:17

like the one of the things I noticed,

02:13:17 --> 02:13:18

I don't know if the other community, especially

02:13:18 --> 02:13:20

in the Somali community.

02:13:20 --> 02:13:22

I'm from Somalia, I think, you know.

02:13:22 --> 02:13:25

When women get married and they start having

02:13:25 --> 02:13:27

kids, they focus so much on being the

02:13:27 --> 02:13:28

mother,

02:13:28 --> 02:13:30

being the taking care of the household. They

02:13:30 --> 02:13:32

forget be to be the wife.

02:13:32 --> 02:13:34

So what I was saying

02:13:34 --> 02:13:36

comes the husband becomes

02:13:36 --> 02:13:39

3rd, 4th. Like, he's it's all about the

02:13:39 --> 02:13:40

kids.

02:13:40 --> 02:13:42

Right. It's all about the kids, and then

02:13:42 --> 02:13:44

afterwards, the housework, and then it's the other

02:13:44 --> 02:13:45

family members.

02:13:45 --> 02:13:47

And then the husband become, like, the husband

02:13:47 --> 02:13:48

who, basically.

02:13:49 --> 02:13:51

So they don't have this

02:13:53 --> 02:13:53

this outsource

02:13:54 --> 02:13:55

outsource it.

02:13:56 --> 02:13:56

Yeah.

02:13:58 --> 02:13:59

But this is this is exactly what I

02:13:59 --> 02:14:02

was saying because, you see, if if that

02:14:02 --> 02:14:05

husband now decides to to to marry again,

02:14:05 --> 02:14:07

I'm sure that there will be people within

02:14:07 --> 02:14:09

his space that will say, how could he

02:14:09 --> 02:14:11

do that to her? She's such a good

02:14:11 --> 02:14:13

woman. Look at how she works for the

02:14:13 --> 02:14:16

house. Look how dedicated she is, etcetera, etcetera.

02:14:17 --> 02:14:19

But really what they're looking at is her

02:14:19 --> 02:14:20

as a mother,

02:14:20 --> 02:14:22

as a sister, as a daughter, you know,

02:14:22 --> 02:14:24

as as somebody of age and benefit from.

02:14:24 --> 02:14:27

Right? They're not looking at the benefit he

02:14:27 --> 02:14:29

may not be getting from her because he's

02:14:29 --> 02:14:31

a priority. Yeah. Yeah. Because

02:14:32 --> 02:14:34

it's it's there's no time for as a

02:14:34 --> 02:14:36

husband and wife anymore. There's no time just

02:14:36 --> 02:14:38

for you without the kids and the house

02:14:38 --> 02:14:40

or the rest of the family involved. There's

02:14:40 --> 02:14:42

none of that because when you guys met

02:14:42 --> 02:14:43

and you it was just you, you had

02:14:43 --> 02:14:45

all that time, all that energy to put

02:14:45 --> 02:14:48

into together. But now we don't have that.

02:14:48 --> 02:14:50

And so maybe it might be easier on

02:14:50 --> 02:14:52

both of you if you got a second

02:14:52 --> 02:14:52

wife.

02:14:53 --> 02:14:55

But people don't see it like that. People

02:14:55 --> 02:14:57

see, like, oh, how I I I'm the

02:14:57 --> 02:14:58

mother of his children. I went through all

02:14:58 --> 02:15:00

this. I did this one. I did that.

02:15:00 --> 02:15:02

How, yeah, how can you marry another woman?

02:15:02 --> 02:15:05

Yeah. It's true. You're right, sis. Hang on.

02:15:05 --> 02:15:07

Hang on. Yeah. It's It's true.

02:15:08 --> 02:15:09

If I had the air horn, I would

02:15:09 --> 02:15:10

put it off for you.

02:15:12 --> 02:15:13

Yeah. Of course. So they're working.

02:15:14 --> 02:15:16

There was the the the the text you

02:15:16 --> 02:15:18

guys read or the DM or the Instagram.

02:15:18 --> 02:15:20

And the you know, my wife has to

02:15:20 --> 02:15:21

keep it tight.

02:15:21 --> 02:15:24

That one, for me from what the woman

02:15:24 --> 02:15:26

say was a bit much, to be honest.

02:15:27 --> 02:15:29

But it would depend on where the what

02:15:29 --> 02:15:30

what my husband was coming from. Have I,

02:15:30 --> 02:15:32

you know, have I let myself go? Am

02:15:32 --> 02:15:34

I not putting as much effort into my

02:15:34 --> 02:15:36

appearance? Am I and he even says to

02:15:36 --> 02:15:38

me that and say, look, darling. You know,

02:15:38 --> 02:15:40

you're not you be you you it's kinda

02:15:40 --> 02:15:42

like you're letting yourself go a bit.

02:15:43 --> 02:15:44

I get but it has to come from

02:15:44 --> 02:15:45

a place of

02:15:46 --> 02:15:47

sensitivity.

02:15:47 --> 02:15:49

Let's be honest. As a woman, we are

02:15:49 --> 02:15:51

very sensitive about body and especially if you

02:15:51 --> 02:15:54

have children, it's very hard to everything count

02:15:54 --> 02:15:54

again.

02:15:55 --> 02:15:58

You don't have as much energy because you're

02:15:58 --> 02:15:59

going around after the kids and whatnot. So

02:15:59 --> 02:16:01

it takes time. So for him to be

02:16:01 --> 02:16:03

like, you know, to mention in a sensitive

02:16:04 --> 02:16:04

way.

02:16:06 --> 02:16:08

Yes. To say, like, you know, you let

02:16:08 --> 02:16:10

yourself go. And he has to give How

02:16:10 --> 02:16:12

would you okay. Give us a script. I'm

02:16:12 --> 02:16:14

really curious about this. Give us a script.

02:16:14 --> 02:16:16

Okay? And the girls, ladies in the chat,

02:16:16 --> 02:16:18

in the comments, those watching afterwards,

02:16:19 --> 02:16:20

if you

02:16:21 --> 02:16:22

can think of

02:16:22 --> 02:16:25

a way that your husband could share with

02:16:25 --> 02:16:25

you

02:16:26 --> 02:16:29

that he is no longer attracted to you.

02:16:29 --> 02:16:32

Right? Because you've let yourself go, because whatever.

02:16:32 --> 02:16:34

And and this is not fixed just to

02:16:34 --> 02:16:36

wait. It could be that you don't brush

02:16:36 --> 02:16:38

your hair anymore. Girls, you know this is

02:16:38 --> 02:16:40

an issue. We know. Right? The sisters out

02:16:40 --> 02:16:42

here not brushing their hair anymore, you know,

02:16:42 --> 02:16:44

maybe not shaving, maybe the leg, the feet

02:16:44 --> 02:16:45

have become crusty,

02:16:46 --> 02:16:48

You know, just also that nothing needs to

02:16:48 --> 02:16:49

come out of this conversation.

02:16:50 --> 02:16:52

We're done for asthma. Go back.

02:16:53 --> 02:16:55

We don't put Sorry for the Nasiv. We'll

02:16:55 --> 02:16:56

bring you back when it gets less and

02:16:56 --> 02:16:57

needs to vanish.

02:16:58 --> 02:16:58

But

02:16:58 --> 02:16:59

how could

02:17:00 --> 02:17:02

your husband share with you

02:17:02 --> 02:17:05

that he is his his attraction to you

02:17:05 --> 02:17:07

has waned, that it's less than it was

02:17:07 --> 02:17:09

before in a way that you could accept

02:17:09 --> 02:17:11

it and and and be able to move

02:17:11 --> 02:17:13

forward with it. Can you think of how

02:17:13 --> 02:17:14

we could do that? And let us know

02:17:14 --> 02:17:16

in the in the com in the comments,

02:17:16 --> 02:17:18

and we wanna hear from you as well.

02:17:18 --> 02:17:21

What do you think? Say it. No comparison.

02:17:22 --> 02:17:24

Don't compare me to anyone else because that

02:17:24 --> 02:17:25

would be really complex.

02:17:27 --> 02:17:27

Be honest

02:17:28 --> 02:17:28

and

02:17:29 --> 02:17:30

then you do well.

02:17:30 --> 02:17:33

Yes. It's I'd rather you were honest with

02:17:33 --> 02:17:34

me and you came to

02:17:35 --> 02:17:36

came to me in a way You're like,

02:17:36 --> 02:17:38

let me be honest with you. And then

02:17:38 --> 02:17:40

you just sugarcoated everything and for you to

02:17:40 --> 02:17:42

feel some way. Okay.

02:17:43 --> 02:17:43

So,

02:17:44 --> 02:17:45

for you to No comparison

02:17:46 --> 02:17:48

and be honest. Comparison. Mhmm. Be honest.

02:17:50 --> 02:17:50

And

02:17:52 --> 02:17:52

the wording

02:17:53 --> 02:17:55

is very important. How you how you deliver

02:17:55 --> 02:17:58

it. We need a script. We need a

02:17:58 --> 02:18:00

script. What do you want? What are words

02:18:00 --> 02:18:01

you want him to say?

02:18:02 --> 02:18:05

Without criticizing. You can be like, darling, what's

02:18:05 --> 02:18:07

going on with you? You have, you know,

02:18:07 --> 02:18:08

you haven't been yourself.

02:18:09 --> 02:18:11

I've I've noticed, you know, you haven't been

02:18:11 --> 02:18:13

brushing your hair properly. You have are you,

02:18:13 --> 02:18:15

like is something going on?

02:18:15 --> 02:18:17

Is it, you know, is it is it

02:18:17 --> 02:18:18

is the house? Is it the kids? You

02:18:18 --> 02:18:20

know, you're not taking care of yourself.

02:18:21 --> 02:18:23

You're not taking care of yourself. Is there

02:18:23 --> 02:18:25

something going on that I don't know about?

02:18:25 --> 02:18:26

Okay.

02:18:26 --> 02:18:28

Would you like to is there anything you

02:18:28 --> 02:18:30

you you want me to help you with?

02:18:30 --> 02:18:31

Is there anything I can do to help

02:18:31 --> 02:18:32

to put the pressure off you?

02:18:33 --> 02:18:36

And then maybe you we I can he

02:18:36 --> 02:18:38

can be like, listen. I was thinking, how

02:18:38 --> 02:18:40

would you feel if we did an activity

02:18:40 --> 02:18:42

together and we go running in the mornings

02:18:42 --> 02:18:42

together?

02:18:43 --> 02:18:45

Okay. But when So that's one way for

02:18:45 --> 02:18:46

him to kind of be one way. Maybe

02:18:46 --> 02:18:49

not as as as as forthright,

02:18:49 --> 02:18:51

but you get hint. Uh-huh. You get the

02:18:51 --> 02:18:54

hint. Yeah. And he's like, oh, he's like,

02:18:54 --> 02:18:55

you know, would you like, you know I

02:18:55 --> 02:18:57

can keep the kids to bed and just

02:18:57 --> 02:19:00

take some really you know, take a bath,

02:19:00 --> 02:19:01

you know, take a really, like, you know,

02:19:01 --> 02:19:03

a bubble bath. Just That's if you haven't

02:19:03 --> 02:19:06

been you haven't been showering regularly. It's like,

02:19:06 --> 02:19:08

hey. Why don't you just have a bubble

02:19:08 --> 02:19:08

bath?

02:19:08 --> 02:19:10

Yeah. Why don't you why don't you take

02:19:10 --> 02:19:13

time for yourself? You know, to put like,

02:19:13 --> 02:19:15

you you do so much for us and

02:19:15 --> 02:19:16

you do so much for the house, so

02:19:16 --> 02:19:18

much for the kids. Why don't you take,

02:19:18 --> 02:19:20

like, an hour to do things for yourself,

02:19:20 --> 02:19:22

to do your hair, to do your makeup,

02:19:22 --> 02:19:24

you know, to do yeah. To do self

02:19:24 --> 02:19:25

care.

02:19:25 --> 02:19:27

Yeah. You see the this is Simone has

02:19:27 --> 02:19:29

this new idea. She says that you can

02:19:29 --> 02:19:30

continue to do something.

02:19:31 --> 02:19:33

Darling, I love that dress on you. You

02:19:33 --> 02:19:35

deserve a break. Go to the salon. Hang

02:19:35 --> 02:19:38

on with your friends. Buy her perfume. Compliment

02:19:38 --> 02:19:40

her. So this is the script from these

02:19:40 --> 02:19:43

sisters, but then Phoebe says, I don't need

02:19:43 --> 02:19:45

him to say it nicely. He sees your

02:19:45 --> 02:19:47

worst. It should be a marriage of honesty.

02:19:48 --> 02:19:50

My husband and me are brutally honest all

02:19:50 --> 02:19:52

the time. Okay. I didn't say I didn't

02:19:52 --> 02:19:55

say nicely. I didn't say nicely. I said

02:19:55 --> 02:19:58

the way he delivered. Some someone can deliver

02:19:58 --> 02:20:00

something and the way it comes across. It

02:20:00 --> 02:20:01

doesn't have to be nice. It can be

02:20:01 --> 02:20:03

honest, brutal, but the delivery.

02:20:03 --> 02:20:05

Because it's impossible how you deliver how you

02:20:05 --> 02:20:07

deliver. How do we rate this one? Okay.

02:20:07 --> 02:20:10

Brothers, can you put in the chat how

02:20:10 --> 02:20:12

you would do it? This is great. Put

02:20:12 --> 02:20:15

in the chat how you would communicate the

02:20:15 --> 02:20:18

fact that you lost attraction to your significant

02:20:18 --> 02:20:20

other, and we will give it a rating,

02:20:20 --> 02:20:22

with sister Jewadia. Alright? So,

02:20:23 --> 02:20:25

Sheikh Nessa says, this is his one, would

02:20:25 --> 02:20:26

you like me to take care of the

02:20:26 --> 02:20:28

kids so you can spend some time on

02:20:28 --> 02:20:29

yourself?

02:20:29 --> 02:20:31

Nice. What do we what do we give

02:20:31 --> 02:20:33

that? What do we give that out of

02:20:33 --> 02:20:33

10?

02:20:34 --> 02:20:36

We give that an

02:20:36 --> 02:20:39

8. An 8. Yeah. What about Eusez,

02:20:39 --> 02:20:39

Tahia?

02:20:41 --> 02:20:42

Assalamu alaikum.

02:20:50 --> 02:20:52

And subhanallah, the sisters raised,

02:20:53 --> 02:20:54

raised so many,

02:20:56 --> 02:20:57

important issues.

02:20:57 --> 02:20:59

Subhanallah, she's been vulnerable for

02:21:00 --> 02:21:00

sharing.

02:21:01 --> 02:21:02

Thank you. Have a

02:21:04 --> 02:21:06

it's really really interesting because,

02:21:06 --> 02:21:08

you know, on one hand,

02:21:10 --> 02:21:11

we tell, sisters,

02:21:12 --> 02:21:15

you need to be this perfect person. You

02:21:15 --> 02:21:17

need to do everything that it takes to

02:21:17 --> 02:21:17

be

02:21:19 --> 02:21:21

everything for your husband. And we know that

02:21:21 --> 02:21:23

men are not expecting that from us, but

02:21:23 --> 02:21:25

this is what society has kind of put

02:21:25 --> 02:21:27

on us. And then on the other hand,

02:21:27 --> 02:21:29

they tell brothers, all you have to do

02:21:29 --> 02:21:32

is have the money. Change the bag and

02:21:32 --> 02:21:35

that will be enough. And obviously, we know

02:21:35 --> 02:21:35

Islamically

02:21:35 --> 02:21:36

that

02:21:37 --> 02:21:39

that is not all it takes, for marriage.

02:21:39 --> 02:21:41

Allah has made it clear, you know, how

02:21:41 --> 02:21:42

an ideal marriage

02:21:43 --> 02:21:45

would be. It would have affection. It would

02:21:45 --> 02:21:47

have mercy. It would have tranquility.

02:21:47 --> 02:21:50

SubhanAllah. And everyone in that marriage should be

02:21:50 --> 02:21:52

working towards that SubhanAllah.

02:21:52 --> 02:21:54

And if it means that a baba you're

02:21:54 --> 02:21:56

going to have to learn how to communicate

02:21:56 --> 02:21:58

to your wife, do that,

02:21:58 --> 02:22:01

you know. I I always say to sisters

02:22:01 --> 02:22:04

when when I have a conversation about marriage,

02:22:04 --> 02:22:06

I say to them, the most important things

02:22:06 --> 02:22:07

that I believe

02:22:08 --> 02:22:11

to that the most important thing in a

02:22:11 --> 02:22:12

marriage is commitment.

02:22:12 --> 02:22:15

Because I believe that when you are committed,

02:22:15 --> 02:22:18

you you what what commitment means, it means

02:22:18 --> 02:22:20

that you do what it takes to make

02:22:20 --> 02:22:23

the marriage work. Whether it's learning something, whether

02:22:23 --> 02:22:25

it's unlearning something,

02:22:25 --> 02:22:28

you do what it takes. Now getting back

02:22:28 --> 02:22:29

to the like, remember

02:22:30 --> 02:22:31

sister in the comments I did say before,

02:22:32 --> 02:22:32

brother,

02:22:33 --> 02:22:35

please be careful because,

02:22:36 --> 02:22:38

I've been there, and I've said it in

02:22:38 --> 02:22:40

the comments. You know? I've got triggered by

02:22:40 --> 02:22:40

a Fitbit.

02:22:41 --> 02:22:42

You know? I got triggered. So you're in

02:22:42 --> 02:22:44

the Hold on. Hold on. Hold on. Hold

02:22:44 --> 02:22:46

on. Wait. Wait. Wait. Wait. Let me get

02:22:46 --> 02:22:48

this straight because I did see your comment,

02:22:48 --> 02:22:49

I didn't put it up on screen, but

02:22:49 --> 02:22:52

sorry. Let me just get it clear. So

02:22:52 --> 02:22:54

he was talking about buying a treadmill, and

02:22:54 --> 02:22:57

you were like, treadmill? What? I got triggered

02:22:57 --> 02:22:57

by a Fitbit.

02:22:58 --> 02:23:00

Tell us about that. Let's unpack that a

02:23:00 --> 02:23:01

little bit. Brother Nasir is here, so we

02:23:01 --> 02:23:02

can, you know, if you can you can

02:23:02 --> 02:23:04

give me a So,

02:23:06 --> 02:23:08

gonna start off the I did I didn't

02:23:08 --> 02:23:09

wanna share this. I wanna share it anyway.

02:23:09 --> 02:23:11

So I'm recently divorced,

02:23:12 --> 02:23:13

and, all these issues,

02:23:15 --> 02:23:19

were, about polygyny, I've experienced them. And now

02:23:19 --> 02:23:21

I'm in a better place. I'm in a

02:23:21 --> 02:23:22

place where I'm like, yes. I'm all for

02:23:22 --> 02:23:25

polygyny. I haven't been like that. And this

02:23:25 --> 02:23:26

is one of the points why I wanted

02:23:26 --> 02:23:28

to come on on

02:23:28 --> 02:23:31

on the in the studio and talk about

02:23:31 --> 02:23:31

is that

02:23:32 --> 02:23:32

when we,

02:23:33 --> 02:23:36

when Allah left us and we are aware

02:23:36 --> 02:23:37

of something

02:23:37 --> 02:23:41

that we know something, we should remember that

02:23:41 --> 02:23:42

this is a blessing from Allah.

02:23:43 --> 02:23:46

We know something. It's not because you wanted

02:23:46 --> 02:23:46

to know something.

02:23:47 --> 02:23:48

The knowledge that but

02:23:49 --> 02:23:50

all of us know,

02:23:51 --> 02:23:52

is not because

02:23:52 --> 02:23:54

we wanted to have this knowledge.

02:23:55 --> 02:23:57

It's been chosen by Allah for us to

02:23:57 --> 02:23:58

have that knowledge, and there is a purpose

02:23:58 --> 02:24:01

for it. And now how we choose to

02:24:01 --> 02:24:03

use that knowledge, we are going to be

02:24:03 --> 02:24:06

accountable for that, to Panama. So I always

02:24:06 --> 02:24:09

take time to appreciate. And I think I

02:24:09 --> 02:24:11

mentioned it in the comments yesterday

02:24:11 --> 02:24:13

that everything that I've gone through that is

02:24:13 --> 02:24:14

painful

02:24:14 --> 02:24:16

has taught me a lesson.

02:24:16 --> 02:24:18

And I I I did not look at

02:24:18 --> 02:24:21

anything in a negative way. I just say

02:24:21 --> 02:24:23

Allah put me in that position for a

02:24:23 --> 02:24:26

reason. And sometimes Allah put me in that

02:24:26 --> 02:24:27

position because

02:24:28 --> 02:24:30

Allah wanted me to learn first and foremost

02:24:30 --> 02:24:32

because when you go through something,

02:24:33 --> 02:24:35

what do you learn? You learn to to

02:24:35 --> 02:24:38

be empathetic to those peep to people that

02:24:38 --> 02:24:38

experiences

02:24:39 --> 02:24:41

the same thing as you. Because I I

02:24:41 --> 02:24:45

honestly believe that until someone goes through something,

02:24:46 --> 02:24:47

the same thing

02:24:47 --> 02:24:50

or a similar thing, they cannot empathize

02:24:50 --> 02:24:52

with what you're going through. They can stick

02:24:52 --> 02:24:53

with you,

02:24:54 --> 02:24:56

but they cannot empathize because

02:24:56 --> 02:24:58

however much they want to understand where you're

02:24:58 --> 02:25:01

coming from, they might not have the capacity

02:25:02 --> 02:25:04

to understand what you're going through. Now that

02:25:04 --> 02:25:05

being said,

02:25:06 --> 02:25:08

I remember when my husband first said to

02:25:08 --> 02:25:10

me, my ex husband, when he said to

02:25:10 --> 02:25:11

me, and I I want to put it

02:25:11 --> 02:25:13

out there that the reason the reason why

02:25:13 --> 02:25:15

we're not together is not because of Polygyny.

02:25:16 --> 02:25:18

So I I wanna put that up. I

02:25:18 --> 02:25:20

I I accepted it and I said

02:25:21 --> 02:25:22

to him, you know what? If it's something

02:25:22 --> 02:25:23

that you wanna exercise,

02:25:24 --> 02:25:26

you know, way as far as even saying,

02:25:26 --> 02:25:28

you know what? You wanna marry a friend

02:25:28 --> 02:25:30

of mine? Fine. You can do that. But,

02:25:31 --> 02:25:33

I I wanna talk about that as well,

02:25:33 --> 02:25:34

but I'm gonna go through that as well.

02:25:34 --> 02:25:36

So Hold on a second. Woah. Woah. Can

02:25:36 --> 02:25:39

I just say, inshallah, we are going to

02:25:39 --> 02:25:42

have a polygyny live stream? Okay? This is

02:25:42 --> 02:25:44

not the polygyny live stream but we are

02:25:44 --> 02:25:45

going to have one definitely inshallah.

02:25:46 --> 02:25:49

So please hold that story for when we

02:25:49 --> 02:25:51

do a polygyny live stream. But what what

02:25:51 --> 02:25:53

I want I would love for you to

02:25:53 --> 02:25:55

to share with us, if you got triggered

02:25:55 --> 02:25:56

by the Fitbit,

02:25:57 --> 02:25:59

what was it that triggered you? What was

02:25:59 --> 02:26:01

happening? What was the thinking? What was the

02:26:01 --> 02:26:03

meaning that you took from that? Just so

02:26:03 --> 02:26:04

we can put it into context with what

02:26:04 --> 02:26:06

we're talking about at the moment.

02:26:07 --> 02:26:10

Okay. So picture loss. So to to

02:26:11 --> 02:26:13

when I look back

02:26:13 --> 02:26:14

to that moment

02:26:15 --> 02:26:17

and I think about,

02:26:18 --> 02:26:20

how I felt or

02:26:20 --> 02:26:22

what it meant to me for him to

02:26:22 --> 02:26:24

say that. Because it's not

02:26:24 --> 02:26:26

it's not it's not a case of him

02:26:26 --> 02:26:29

saying the truth that triggered me. It's the

02:26:29 --> 02:26:30

way,

02:26:31 --> 02:26:34

because it's the way, like, the previous sister,

02:26:34 --> 02:26:35

I forgot her name, mentioned

02:26:36 --> 02:26:38

that they the way women want to hear

02:26:38 --> 02:26:40

things, you know. And,

02:26:41 --> 02:26:43

it it and it's not even men. There's

02:26:43 --> 02:26:45

the way men want to hear things. I

02:26:45 --> 02:26:48

can say something. Be sincere to a man.

02:26:48 --> 02:26:50

Be truthful to a man, and he will

02:26:50 --> 02:26:52

take it in a offensive way. And I'm

02:26:52 --> 02:26:53

not going out of my way to be

02:26:53 --> 02:26:56

offensive to him that he would take it

02:26:56 --> 02:26:58

in an offensive way. Similar to the system

02:26:59 --> 02:27:01

that is a brother can be sincere, a

02:27:01 --> 02:27:02

brother can be truthful,

02:27:03 --> 02:27:05

but the way he say something

02:27:05 --> 02:27:06

can can

02:27:06 --> 02:27:07

hurt his feelings.

02:27:08 --> 02:27:10

Because for me, my Right. Go ahead. Sorry.

02:27:11 --> 02:27:13

Oh, it was the case that he he

02:27:14 --> 02:27:16

before this, he had never said anything to

02:27:16 --> 02:27:19

me about my weight or you know? So

02:27:20 --> 02:27:21

now if you're buying

02:27:21 --> 02:27:23

a a Fitbit, and it wasn't only a

02:27:23 --> 02:27:26

Fitbit. It was, a weighing scale that tells

02:27:26 --> 02:27:29

you everything. Your BMI Wow.

02:27:29 --> 02:27:32

Okay. Now he would drop hint hints. Okay.

02:27:32 --> 02:27:34

No. These were hint hints. Okay.

02:27:34 --> 02:27:35

It

02:27:36 --> 02:27:38

was one of those that you could connect

02:27:38 --> 02:27:40

to an app and that app would suck.

02:27:41 --> 02:27:41

You'll wait

02:27:42 --> 02:27:44

and he added on his phone.

02:27:45 --> 02:27:46

So, obviously,

02:27:46 --> 02:27:49

me being a woman that is from the

02:27:49 --> 02:27:49

west,

02:27:50 --> 02:27:52

and I don't know if any other woman

02:27:52 --> 02:27:54

would have found it offensive. I can only

02:27:54 --> 02:27:55

speak from my own,

02:27:57 --> 02:27:58

experiences.

02:27:59 --> 02:28:01

But, you know, like, I'm thinking, okay. So

02:28:01 --> 02:28:03

this is a bit old city, and where

02:28:03 --> 02:28:05

is it coming from, and why are you

02:28:05 --> 02:28:06

talking

02:28:06 --> 02:28:07

my way?

02:28:07 --> 02:28:08

And

02:28:08 --> 02:28:10

why is it a problem? You know? And

02:28:10 --> 02:28:13

obviously, now the the thinking I have now

02:28:13 --> 02:28:15

I'm a bit more red pill now.

02:28:15 --> 02:28:18

The feeling the the thinking I have

02:28:20 --> 02:28:22

It's not the same thing I have before.

02:28:22 --> 02:28:25

You know, I had before I I I

02:28:25 --> 02:28:28

have the thinking of, you know, I accept

02:28:28 --> 02:28:30

you the way you are. I accept you

02:28:31 --> 02:28:33

me the way I am. You know?

02:28:33 --> 02:28:35

So if he had said to you what

02:28:35 --> 02:28:38

supernova he has put, you're letting yourself go,

02:28:38 --> 02:28:40

babe. You need to work on yourself.

02:28:40 --> 02:28:42

I would have said landed differently, what would

02:28:42 --> 02:28:45

have happened? I'd be offended. I would have

02:28:45 --> 02:28:47

said, I if he said to me,

02:28:48 --> 02:28:49

and I said this to my husband, I

02:28:49 --> 02:28:51

did have a conversation about it. And I

02:28:51 --> 02:28:53

said, if you, you know,

02:28:53 --> 02:28:55

I'm I'm I'll I'll stop for a while.

02:28:55 --> 02:28:57

I remember, like, I had a conversation but

02:28:57 --> 02:28:59

maybe it happened in my mind. I love

02:28:59 --> 02:29:00

how long. So

02:29:03 --> 02:29:05

but what I thought to myself is if

02:29:05 --> 02:29:07

you woulda had more more,

02:29:08 --> 02:29:10

a much greater success,

02:29:10 --> 02:29:13

If it's a babe, let's let's go for

02:29:13 --> 02:29:14

a walk together.

02:29:14 --> 02:29:15

You know? Let's go,

02:29:16 --> 02:29:18

for a jog together. You know, connect in.

02:29:18 --> 02:29:19

And I did put that in your in

02:29:19 --> 02:29:21

in the chat room. I said, you know,

02:29:21 --> 02:29:22

this is something

02:29:23 --> 02:29:25

I and I've also listened to,

02:29:26 --> 02:29:29

some experts advising. Connect before you criticize.

02:29:30 --> 02:29:33

You know? Because sometimes people are so quick

02:29:33 --> 02:29:34

to criticize

02:29:35 --> 02:29:37

that they haven't built that relationship.

02:29:38 --> 02:29:40

You know? Where someone because for example, when

02:29:40 --> 02:29:42

you have friends, but you're not gonna give,

02:29:43 --> 02:29:45

advice to every friend that you have.

02:29:45 --> 02:29:47

You will wait you will give advice to

02:29:47 --> 02:29:49

that friend that you know you have that

02:29:49 --> 02:29:52

kind of friendship with. So some managers, they

02:29:52 --> 02:29:53

don't have that friendship.

02:29:54 --> 02:29:56

And that's why when when

02:29:56 --> 02:29:57

when something comes

02:29:58 --> 02:30:00

when something is both up,

02:30:00 --> 02:30:02

it's like it's a it's it's like, woah.

02:30:02 --> 02:30:04

Like, I'm I'm I'm already dealing with the

02:30:04 --> 02:30:07

things that I'm not getting from you, and

02:30:07 --> 02:30:10

now dealing with this attack on me. Because

02:30:10 --> 02:30:11

whenever someone says,

02:30:12 --> 02:30:13

attacks you

02:30:13 --> 02:30:15

or you feel attacked,

02:30:15 --> 02:30:17

then natural thing what a human being should

02:30:17 --> 02:30:20

do is to become defensive. And to okay.

02:30:21 --> 02:30:22

I'm also good

02:30:23 --> 02:30:25

at, communicating our

02:30:26 --> 02:30:27

pain, communicating

02:30:28 --> 02:30:29

our anger,

02:30:29 --> 02:30:31

not our pain but our anger

02:30:31 --> 02:30:32

rather than communicating

02:30:33 --> 02:30:33

our mood.

02:30:34 --> 02:30:37

So I wanna just jump in there, and

02:30:37 --> 02:30:39

I want to to hopefully open up the

02:30:39 --> 02:30:41

floor for brother Nasiv because I heard something,

02:30:41 --> 02:30:42

and I'm sure you picked it up as

02:30:42 --> 02:30:44

well, coach Nasiv, which is,

02:30:45 --> 02:30:47

when you are attacked.

02:30:47 --> 02:30:49

Right? And we're talking in a context of

02:30:49 --> 02:30:52

a man saying or trying to communicate that

02:30:52 --> 02:30:55

he would like you to get back in

02:30:55 --> 02:30:57

shape or get back control of whatever it

02:30:57 --> 02:31:00

is. Right? And you said when someone attacks

02:31:00 --> 02:31:02

you, and then you change it to when

02:31:02 --> 02:31:04

you feel attacked.

02:31:04 --> 02:31:07

Brother Nelson, what is happening there when,

02:31:08 --> 02:31:09

in a situation

02:31:09 --> 02:31:11

like we're describing?

02:31:11 --> 02:31:14

A husband expresses, however he does it, that

02:31:14 --> 02:31:16

he would like you to get back on

02:31:16 --> 02:31:19

in shape and you feel attacked or you

02:31:19 --> 02:31:21

believe he's attacking you? What is going on

02:31:21 --> 02:31:22

there psychologically?

02:31:24 --> 02:31:26

So before I answer that, and I'll I'll

02:31:26 --> 02:31:28

ask you to remind me of that question,

02:31:28 --> 02:31:29

I think one of the things that that

02:31:29 --> 02:31:31

we have to to remember is

02:31:37 --> 02:31:39

emotions don't reign supreme.

02:31:40 --> 02:31:42

How you feel is how you feel, but

02:31:42 --> 02:31:44

you take ownership for how you feel. That

02:31:44 --> 02:31:47

doesn't mean that it's gonna control the way

02:31:47 --> 02:31:49

your husband is gonna lead the marriage.

02:31:50 --> 02:31:52

This is why I said it last time,

02:31:52 --> 02:31:54

and I said it that way intentionally

02:31:55 --> 02:31:56

because I wanted

02:31:57 --> 02:31:59

to shake sisters a little

02:32:00 --> 02:32:02

so that it helps them to make the

02:32:02 --> 02:32:02

adjustment

02:32:03 --> 02:32:03

early

02:32:04 --> 02:32:06

so that it doesn't lead to divorce

02:32:07 --> 02:32:08

is the concept,

02:32:09 --> 02:32:10

the truism,

02:32:11 --> 02:32:12

fall in line.

02:32:13 --> 02:32:15

Your husband getting you a Fitbit,

02:32:16 --> 02:32:18

me buying a treadmill in my house

02:32:19 --> 02:32:23

is setting a standard and letting you know

02:32:24 --> 02:32:25

fall in line.

02:32:25 --> 02:32:27

One of the expectations

02:32:27 --> 02:32:30

is for you to stay in shape.

02:32:31 --> 02:32:33

Now when that happens

02:32:33 --> 02:32:36

and you choose to perceive it, you make

02:32:36 --> 02:32:37

an evaluation

02:32:38 --> 02:32:41

that says it means this about me and

02:32:41 --> 02:32:43

he must not love me. Not saying that

02:32:43 --> 02:32:44

this is what you said. I'm throwing in

02:32:44 --> 02:32:45

potential narratives.

02:32:46 --> 02:32:49

Or I'm not sufficient or I'm not enough,

02:32:49 --> 02:32:51

and this is no man is this and

02:32:51 --> 02:32:54

this and this. That's all the narrative that

02:32:54 --> 02:32:57

you bring, the meaning that you bring to

02:32:57 --> 02:32:58

a situation.

02:32:59 --> 02:33:01

Hence, what you were saying in terms of

02:33:01 --> 02:33:03

when you feel attacked.

02:33:03 --> 02:33:07

You feel attacked because the thinking that underpins

02:33:07 --> 02:33:09

that feeling of being attacked

02:33:10 --> 02:33:12

is a narrative that you created.

02:33:13 --> 02:33:15

So what I would suggest for sisters is

02:33:15 --> 02:33:17

and, again, since this is not for you,

02:33:17 --> 02:33:19

this is just in general,

02:33:20 --> 02:33:21

Let's stop the cap.

02:33:22 --> 02:33:24

The reality is any way that a brother

02:33:24 --> 02:33:26

brings up to you

02:33:26 --> 02:33:29

that your weight is becoming a problem,

02:33:29 --> 02:33:31

more than likely, you're not going to like

02:33:31 --> 02:33:34

it. And the reason why you're not going

02:33:34 --> 02:33:37

to like it is you're creating a demand

02:33:37 --> 02:33:39

on how it must be articulated.

02:33:40 --> 02:33:42

Now to the point that you were saying,

02:33:42 --> 02:33:44

sis, I actually agree with you. I think

02:33:44 --> 02:33:45

one of the ways

02:33:45 --> 02:33:47

and if you go to my Instagram, you'll

02:33:47 --> 02:33:50

see the story in the city. Make sure

02:33:50 --> 02:33:51

you follow it.

02:33:51 --> 02:33:53

You'll see that I made a post last

02:33:53 --> 02:33:56

night of being on the treadmill getting getting

02:33:56 --> 02:33:57

2 miles in

02:33:58 --> 02:33:58

last night.

02:33:59 --> 02:34:01

Why? Because I told myself this is something

02:34:01 --> 02:34:03

that I know I need to be doing

02:34:03 --> 02:34:04

on a daily basis.

02:34:05 --> 02:34:06

I need to get in 2 to 3

02:34:06 --> 02:34:08

miles a day.

02:34:08 --> 02:34:11

That's what I've said to myself I need

02:34:11 --> 02:34:12

for my own health,

02:34:13 --> 02:34:16

but that's also setting the example. So I

02:34:16 --> 02:34:16

agree.

02:34:17 --> 02:34:19

One of the best ways that a brother

02:34:19 --> 02:34:20

can let his wife know

02:34:21 --> 02:34:23

that she needs to be mindful of her

02:34:23 --> 02:34:26

weight is by making sure that he demonstrates

02:34:26 --> 02:34:28

in his own life that he's mindful of

02:34:28 --> 02:34:29

his weight.

02:34:30 --> 02:34:32

I think that should proceed

02:34:33 --> 02:34:34

whatever he says to her.

02:34:35 --> 02:34:37

And that should be the layer that's always

02:34:38 --> 02:34:40

there that he is demonstrating

02:34:41 --> 02:34:42

that his health,

02:34:43 --> 02:34:44

his well-being,

02:34:44 --> 02:34:46

his fitness is a priority

02:34:46 --> 02:34:48

just like he's asking it for it to

02:34:48 --> 02:34:50

be of me. That's the integrity gap, which

02:34:50 --> 02:34:52

comes back to the question you asked at

02:34:52 --> 02:34:54

the very beginning of the show. The integrity

02:34:54 --> 02:34:57

gap is making sure you're closing

02:34:58 --> 02:35:00

the distance between what you say and what

02:35:00 --> 02:35:01

you do.

02:35:01 --> 02:35:03

And so you can't be saying to your

02:35:03 --> 02:35:05

wife that you need

02:35:05 --> 02:35:06

to stay in shape,

02:35:07 --> 02:35:07

but yet

02:35:09 --> 02:35:10

you can't see your toes.

02:35:11 --> 02:35:11

That's problematic.

02:35:13 --> 02:35:14

Right? So

02:35:14 --> 02:35:16

first, to answer the question, I believe brothers

02:35:17 --> 02:35:17

should,

02:35:18 --> 02:35:21

model what they want their wives to do,

02:35:21 --> 02:35:23

and they should put money there. So buy

02:35:23 --> 02:35:26

a treadmill, buy a Fitbit, buy whatever she

02:35:26 --> 02:35:29

needs to make it convenient for her to

02:35:29 --> 02:35:32

be able to stay in shape. But 2,

02:35:32 --> 02:35:34

sisters, you gotta get out of your feelings.

02:35:36 --> 02:35:38

Reality is how you feel is on you.

02:35:39 --> 02:35:41

What is he articulating to you? That's what

02:35:41 --> 02:35:43

you need to get from this.

02:35:43 --> 02:35:46

This is a moment of leaning into logic

02:35:46 --> 02:35:48

versus leaning into the emotion.

02:35:49 --> 02:35:51

Because if he's telling me

02:35:52 --> 02:35:52

through

02:35:53 --> 02:35:56

trying to aid me by buying a tool

02:35:56 --> 02:35:57

or something that I can use to help

02:35:57 --> 02:36:00

me with my weight, he's also potentially conveying

02:36:00 --> 02:36:02

to me that this is what he wants

02:36:02 --> 02:36:04

from me. And why would you not want

02:36:04 --> 02:36:06

to give him what he wants? Because

02:36:07 --> 02:36:08

reality is

02:36:09 --> 02:36:11

there's sisters outside that are willing to give

02:36:11 --> 02:36:12

him what he wants.

02:36:13 --> 02:36:15

Can I I want to bring,

02:36:15 --> 02:36:18

Sidhuadia in? But before we do that, I

02:36:18 --> 02:36:20

need to I I really want to jump

02:36:20 --> 02:36:22

on this, Shana, if you guys don't mind.

02:36:22 --> 02:36:24

Yeah? Sister was asking about, you know, whether

02:36:24 --> 02:36:27

it's the effort that the husband is looking

02:36:27 --> 02:36:29

for or is he looking for a particular

02:36:29 --> 02:36:31

result. And then she said, what impact does

02:36:31 --> 02:36:32

this have on children?

02:36:33 --> 02:36:35

They pick up on these types of things,

02:36:35 --> 02:36:38

their mother dieting, having poor self esteem, how

02:36:38 --> 02:36:41

best to prevent negative influence on them. I

02:36:41 --> 02:36:43

wanted to say for a second

02:36:43 --> 02:36:44

here

02:36:45 --> 02:36:46

that we need to

02:36:47 --> 02:36:47

normalize

02:36:48 --> 02:36:49

looking after

02:36:49 --> 02:36:50

ourselves.

02:36:52 --> 02:36:54

That should be normalized.

02:36:54 --> 02:36:57

Right? What does that mean? Being active,

02:36:58 --> 02:37:01

drinking water, reminder to myself first,

02:37:02 --> 02:37:02

eating well,

02:37:03 --> 02:37:06

watching what we eat, not gorging

02:37:06 --> 02:37:09

on chips and biscuits and cake

02:37:09 --> 02:37:12

Not ordering, you know, take away 3 times

02:37:12 --> 02:37:15

a week eating greasy chips greasy pizza

02:37:15 --> 02:37:16

burgers

02:37:16 --> 02:37:17

chicken nuggets

02:37:18 --> 02:37:18

not cooking

02:37:19 --> 02:37:21

Not having salads,

02:37:21 --> 02:37:22

right?

02:37:23 --> 02:37:23

These things

02:37:24 --> 02:37:25

we we have to

02:37:26 --> 02:37:26

Okay.

02:37:27 --> 02:37:28

Let me just pull myself together.

02:37:30 --> 02:37:33

What having a healthy lifestyle is not a

02:37:33 --> 02:37:37

negative thing. Right? Watching what you eat is

02:37:37 --> 02:37:38

not a negative thing.

02:37:39 --> 02:37:41

Why would children pick up on negativity because

02:37:41 --> 02:37:44

their mother is careful about what she eats?

02:37:44 --> 02:37:46

Only because of you, sis. And I'm not

02:37:46 --> 02:37:47

saying this about the person who said this,

02:37:47 --> 02:37:49

but that's on you.

02:37:49 --> 02:37:50

If you have

02:37:51 --> 02:37:54

worked yourself up into a state of anxiety,

02:37:55 --> 02:37:56

right, and frustration

02:37:57 --> 02:37:59

and and depression and and self loathing

02:38:00 --> 02:38:03

due to your weight, that's on you.

02:38:04 --> 02:38:05

You need to stop doing that.

02:38:06 --> 02:38:09

And and making it seem as if,

02:38:09 --> 02:38:12

you know, being encouraged to to eat well,

02:38:12 --> 02:38:14

to lose weight, to get fit, to get

02:38:14 --> 02:38:17

strong, whatever the case may be, is somehow

02:38:17 --> 02:38:19

inviting you to unhealthy behaviors.

02:38:20 --> 02:38:20

This

02:38:21 --> 02:38:23

is it's chop logic, and it's probably some

02:38:23 --> 02:38:25

kind of straw man or something. Yeah. It's

02:38:25 --> 02:38:27

something. Okay. I don't even know, but it's

02:38:27 --> 02:38:30

something. It is it's or red herring.

02:38:30 --> 02:38:31

It's something.

02:38:32 --> 02:38:34

And it's it's it's it's intellectually

02:38:35 --> 02:38:35

dishonest.

02:38:36 --> 02:38:39

Because if your husband, my husband

02:38:39 --> 02:38:41

says to me, you know, I want us

02:38:41 --> 02:38:42

to go vegan

02:38:42 --> 02:38:44

for 3 months. Right?

02:38:44 --> 02:38:47

Oh, vegan. Yeah. Okay. That's new, different. How

02:38:47 --> 02:38:48

come? Let's let's talk about it. So then

02:38:48 --> 02:38:50

he says, look, I've been looking into it

02:38:50 --> 02:38:51

and these are the benefits blah blah blah

02:38:51 --> 02:38:54

blah. Let's do it. Okay. I'm I'm I'm

02:38:54 --> 02:38:56

falling in line. I'm on the program. Let's

02:38:56 --> 02:38:57

do it. I'm going to look into how

02:38:57 --> 02:38:59

can I make this amazing? What could be

02:38:59 --> 02:39:01

great about this? What could I learn from

02:39:01 --> 02:39:02

this experience?

02:39:02 --> 02:39:03

And

02:39:03 --> 02:39:05

guess what? My kids are going to pick

02:39:05 --> 02:39:08

up on the fact that I'm excited about

02:39:08 --> 02:39:11

taking better care of myself. I'm excited about

02:39:11 --> 02:39:13

looking after my weight, about

02:39:13 --> 02:39:16

getting healthier, about eating better food. Why should

02:39:16 --> 02:39:18

your children pick up on low self esteem

02:39:18 --> 02:39:20

and stuff like that as if the only

02:39:20 --> 02:39:22

reason you work out and watch what you're

02:39:22 --> 02:39:24

eating is because you hate yourself. Surely, it

02:39:24 --> 02:39:26

should be because you love yourself. Again, it's

02:39:26 --> 02:39:28

the story that we're telling ourselves. Right?

02:39:29 --> 02:39:31

It's it's it's it's the story, and I

02:39:31 --> 02:39:33

think that's really important.

02:39:33 --> 02:39:35

It's important not to be telling yourself a

02:39:35 --> 02:39:39

story that if I'm watching my weight, I'm

02:39:39 --> 02:39:42

somehow doing something wrong. I'm I'm not accepting

02:39:42 --> 02:39:44

myself as I am. You know, I'm putting

02:39:44 --> 02:39:48

myself under an unnecessary and negative pressure. That

02:39:48 --> 02:39:49

you're not

02:39:49 --> 02:39:52

if we started eating according to the sunnah

02:39:52 --> 02:39:55

like strictly according to the sunnah

02:39:55 --> 02:39:58

trust and believe majority of us would have

02:39:58 --> 02:40:01

to completely overhaul our current diets. And we

02:40:01 --> 02:40:03

know this. Right? And no one would say

02:40:03 --> 02:40:05

that, for example, filling a 3rd, 3rd, 3rd,

02:40:06 --> 02:40:07

a third of food, a third of water,

02:40:07 --> 02:40:08

and a third of air.

02:40:09 --> 02:40:11

If you decided to do that, would you

02:40:11 --> 02:40:13

think that, oh, I'm starving myself. I'm at

02:40:13 --> 02:40:14

risk of anorexia.

02:40:15 --> 02:40:16

You know, I've got some kind of mental

02:40:16 --> 02:40:18

disorder because I'm not filling my stomach. No.

02:40:18 --> 02:40:20

You wouldn't because you would see the benefit

02:40:20 --> 02:40:21

of it, and you'll say, Bismillah, and you

02:40:21 --> 02:40:25

would do it. So sisters again and brothers,

02:40:25 --> 02:40:27

this is the work is here first.

02:40:28 --> 02:40:31

If you are telling yourself that working out

02:40:31 --> 02:40:32

is somehow demeaning

02:40:33 --> 02:40:33

or is humiliating

02:40:34 --> 02:40:36

or something you shouldn't have to do and

02:40:36 --> 02:40:38

you're only doing it because of x, y,

02:40:38 --> 02:40:38

and zed,

02:40:39 --> 02:40:40

I don't have a lot of help. I

02:40:40 --> 02:40:42

don't have a lot of hope for your

02:40:42 --> 02:40:44

results. And, also,

02:40:44 --> 02:40:46

if you don't feel good about it, change

02:40:46 --> 02:40:48

the way you think about it because that's

02:40:48 --> 02:40:50

what the problem is. The problem is not

02:40:50 --> 02:40:51

the thing that you're doing. The thing that

02:40:51 --> 02:40:53

you're doing is good. Right? It's a good

02:40:53 --> 02:40:55

thing to be fit. It's a good thing

02:40:55 --> 02:40:57

to be strong. And I you know, we

02:40:57 --> 02:40:59

talked about this on the last live stream,

02:40:59 --> 02:41:01

didn't we? SubhanAllah, I can't believe, though, we're

02:41:01 --> 02:41:03

back here again. But in the last live

02:41:03 --> 02:41:05

stream, we actually talked about this. Right? Which

02:41:05 --> 02:41:05

is

02:41:06 --> 02:41:09

I I I remember just a little story

02:41:09 --> 02:41:09

time.

02:41:10 --> 02:41:13

I remember when I was living in Egypt

02:41:13 --> 02:41:13

and,

02:41:14 --> 02:41:16

like, weight has never really been an issue,

02:41:16 --> 02:41:18

but I never was into exercising. And when

02:41:18 --> 02:41:19

I was a teenager, I wasn't really into

02:41:19 --> 02:41:22

sports and stuff like that. I enjoyed the

02:41:22 --> 02:41:24

cultural activities, the choir, and the debate, and

02:41:24 --> 02:41:26

all of that. But there was a sister

02:41:27 --> 02:41:29

here in in Egypt. She was a full

02:41:29 --> 02:41:29

and

02:41:30 --> 02:41:31

everything. Right?

02:41:31 --> 02:41:34

But she was a theme with her workouts

02:41:35 --> 02:41:38

She was an absolute beast and she used

02:41:38 --> 02:41:40

to use youtube videos

02:41:40 --> 02:41:42

and she worked out for at least half

02:41:42 --> 02:41:44

an hour every day. And she was in

02:41:44 --> 02:41:46

impeccable shape. I think she had 6 children,

02:41:46 --> 02:41:48

but she loved it.

02:41:48 --> 02:41:51

Right? She loved it. It was one of

02:41:51 --> 02:41:53

those things that just gave her such a

02:41:53 --> 02:41:54

rush.

02:41:54 --> 02:41:56

She would cook in the morning

02:41:56 --> 02:41:58

so that she could do her workout after

02:41:58 --> 02:41:59

she came home from work. Like, it was

02:41:59 --> 02:42:01

it was that important to her. It was

02:42:01 --> 02:42:03

part of who she be. It became part

02:42:03 --> 02:42:05

of her identity, I mean, us us then.

02:42:05 --> 02:42:08

Right? But my point was, if you saw

02:42:08 --> 02:42:08

her,

02:42:09 --> 02:42:11

you would never expect that because you couldn't

02:42:11 --> 02:42:14

see anything of her. She was completely covered.

02:42:14 --> 02:42:16

Right? She was completely covered from head to

02:42:16 --> 02:42:18

toe. She never took pictures or anything like

02:42:18 --> 02:42:18

that,

02:42:19 --> 02:42:20

but she had embraced

02:42:21 --> 02:42:22

being strong

02:42:22 --> 02:42:26

and fit and healthy and having energy and

02:42:26 --> 02:42:29

sleeping well and looking good. She had embraced

02:42:29 --> 02:42:30

that as a better

02:42:31 --> 02:42:34

and it made all the difference, subhanAllah.

02:42:34 --> 02:42:37

So really the thinking feeling connection, guys, we

02:42:37 --> 02:42:39

keep talking about this is real.

02:42:40 --> 02:42:42

How you think about things will impact

02:42:43 --> 02:42:45

how you feel about them and then how

02:42:45 --> 02:42:46

you perform and how you show up in

02:42:46 --> 02:42:49

them, guys. So this issue of healthy eating

02:42:49 --> 02:42:51

and the weight and the exercise,

02:42:51 --> 02:42:54

it's an it we're making it an unnecessarily

02:42:55 --> 02:42:56

triggering conversation.

02:42:57 --> 02:42:59

It shouldn't be. Right? So anyway, I'm gonna

02:42:59 --> 02:43:00

stop talking about that. What do you guys

02:43:00 --> 02:43:01

think?

02:43:02 --> 02:43:03

So I think I think

02:43:06 --> 02:43:06

so,

02:43:07 --> 02:43:08

Masha'Allah,

02:43:08 --> 02:43:11

my family has been on a vegan diet,

02:43:12 --> 02:43:15

even my daughter, for the past 5 years.

02:43:16 --> 02:43:16

And

02:43:18 --> 02:43:19

the year prior to that,

02:43:20 --> 02:43:21

I,

02:43:22 --> 02:43:23

I cut out dairy.

02:43:24 --> 02:43:26

I cut out meat and chicken. It was

02:43:26 --> 02:43:29

a gradual thing, not with the intention of

02:43:29 --> 02:43:31

being vegan, but just health wise.

02:43:32 --> 02:43:35

I knew I wasn't disciplined with the quote,

02:43:35 --> 02:43:37

unquote moderation of those 3.

02:43:39 --> 02:43:41

And then I never put pressure on my

02:43:41 --> 02:43:44

wife to go to a vegan diet,

02:43:45 --> 02:43:47

but I demonstrated for a year

02:43:48 --> 02:43:50

the reality of being

02:43:50 --> 02:43:52

mindful of what you consume

02:43:53 --> 02:43:56

and making that connection between what you consume

02:43:56 --> 02:43:57

and how you feel.

02:43:57 --> 02:43:59

And she had seen

02:43:59 --> 02:44:02

the evidence of that because she was obviously

02:44:02 --> 02:44:03

sitting there with me,

02:44:04 --> 02:44:06

when I would eat on a daily basis.

02:44:06 --> 02:44:09

So my point is men should lead by

02:44:09 --> 02:44:09

example,

02:44:10 --> 02:44:12

and thus subsequently, we ended up going on

02:44:12 --> 02:44:15

a vegan diet. And where why am I

02:44:15 --> 02:44:16

bringing this up? 1,

02:44:17 --> 02:44:19

the point of men should lead.

02:44:21 --> 02:44:21

2,

02:44:22 --> 02:44:25

I also remember, and we get it often

02:44:25 --> 02:44:25

still,

02:44:28 --> 02:44:29

We have this kind

02:44:30 --> 02:44:30

of fixation

02:44:31 --> 02:44:32

with

02:44:33 --> 02:44:35

we can't say no to our kids when

02:44:35 --> 02:44:36

it comes to what they eat.

02:44:37 --> 02:44:40

So I don't give my daughter sugary drinks

02:44:40 --> 02:44:42

and sodas and

02:44:42 --> 02:44:44

cotton candy and

02:44:44 --> 02:44:47

all of this stuff that we know is

02:44:47 --> 02:44:47

not healthy

02:44:48 --> 02:44:49

for our kids.

02:44:50 --> 02:44:53

The reality is the uncomfortable reality is

02:44:53 --> 02:44:56

we are the ones that set our children

02:44:56 --> 02:44:59

on the path of addiction to sugar.

02:45:00 --> 02:45:01

We do that.

02:45:02 --> 02:45:04

But I can't tell you over

02:45:05 --> 02:45:07

the years, the young life,

02:45:08 --> 02:45:11

of my daughter, how many times when we've

02:45:11 --> 02:45:13

been offered candy to give to our daughter,

02:45:13 --> 02:45:15

which we don't do, or offered

02:45:15 --> 02:45:18

fried foods that we don't give, where people

02:45:18 --> 02:45:22

have just literally said we are depriving her.

02:45:24 --> 02:45:26

And so it's just it's

02:45:26 --> 02:45:27

it's asinine,

02:45:28 --> 02:45:29

but it's a reflection

02:45:30 --> 02:45:30

of

02:45:31 --> 02:45:32

the mindset we have

02:45:32 --> 02:45:34

in terms of the relation of

02:45:35 --> 02:45:36

our health and what we consume.

02:45:37 --> 02:45:40

It's like we just we are oftentimes

02:45:41 --> 02:45:41

mindless.

02:45:42 --> 02:45:44

So what I would encourage people to do

02:45:45 --> 02:45:47

is just think about what you give your

02:45:47 --> 02:45:47

children.

02:45:48 --> 02:45:48

Honestly,

02:45:50 --> 02:45:52

what are you allowing your children to consume

02:45:53 --> 02:45:56

under the guise of you don't want to

02:45:56 --> 02:45:57

deprive them?

02:45:57 --> 02:45:58

Right?

02:45:58 --> 02:46:00

And that's a model

02:46:01 --> 02:46:04

that you are modeling the future eating habits

02:46:04 --> 02:46:07

of your children. You're setting them on a

02:46:07 --> 02:46:08

certain path.

02:46:08 --> 02:46:11

And so coming back full circle to what

02:46:11 --> 02:46:12

we were talking about,

02:46:13 --> 02:46:15

I think it's 1 important for men to

02:46:15 --> 02:46:17

lead. I think it's 2 for us to

02:46:17 --> 02:46:19

be intellectually honest about what we consume.

02:46:20 --> 02:46:22

And 3, sisters, you gotta get out of

02:46:22 --> 02:46:24

your emotions on this one. You have to

02:46:24 --> 02:46:25

take accountability.

02:46:26 --> 02:46:29

If your husband is giving you a cue

02:46:30 --> 02:46:32

that he wants you to be fit,

02:46:33 --> 02:46:35

he wants you to and I know this

02:46:35 --> 02:46:36

is gonna be uncomfortable,

02:46:36 --> 02:46:37

shape up

02:46:38 --> 02:46:39

and do it

02:46:40 --> 02:46:41

and do it quick

02:46:42 --> 02:46:42

because

02:46:43 --> 02:46:45

he can find someone else.

02:46:46 --> 02:46:47

Oh, okay.

02:46:47 --> 02:46:50

Since the Tahia's back. Alright. Alright. Alright. We

02:46:50 --> 02:46:52

were with you right until the end. Right,

02:46:52 --> 02:46:53

Johnny? Yes.

02:46:54 --> 02:46:55

Tell you why. Let me tell you why

02:46:55 --> 02:46:56

I speak this way to sisters.

02:47:02 --> 02:47:04

Sisters, I have love for you as your

02:47:04 --> 02:47:04

brother.

02:47:05 --> 02:47:07

But what you cannot deny is

02:47:08 --> 02:47:10

you guys have been lied to

02:47:10 --> 02:47:12

given those uncomfortable truths.

02:47:13 --> 02:47:15

That's why you're in the situation you're in.

02:47:16 --> 02:47:19

Because society and the Muslim community and from

02:47:19 --> 02:47:22

the member, you keep getting those uncomfortable lies.

02:47:23 --> 02:47:26

So then when someone does has a masculine

02:47:27 --> 02:47:28

frame and energy

02:47:28 --> 02:47:31

that's willing to stand on this square and

02:47:31 --> 02:47:32

not accept less

02:47:32 --> 02:47:34

is foreign to you.

02:47:35 --> 02:47:37

But yet you don't understand because you're also

02:47:37 --> 02:47:38

aroused and attracted to it.

02:47:40 --> 02:47:43

So the uncomfortable truth is

02:47:43 --> 02:47:46

you lose leverage with time because you hit

02:47:46 --> 02:47:47

the wall.

02:47:47 --> 02:47:48

Uncomfortable truth.

02:47:50 --> 02:47:52

So when you come to a man that

02:47:52 --> 02:47:53

is providing,

02:47:54 --> 02:47:55

that is on his dean,

02:47:56 --> 02:47:58

and he's there for you.

02:47:58 --> 02:48:00

When he asks you to make certain adjustments,

02:48:02 --> 02:48:03

don't push back.

02:48:04 --> 02:48:06

And, again, before this is clipped, and if

02:48:06 --> 02:48:08

it is clipped, make sure you lead people

02:48:08 --> 02:48:10

to my Instagram to say all I mean.

02:48:11 --> 02:48:14

Understand I'm talking about a healthy man. We're

02:48:14 --> 02:48:16

not talking about some brother that's,

02:48:17 --> 02:48:19

you know, not on his ding, spending his

02:48:19 --> 02:48:21

night smoking shisha,

02:48:22 --> 02:48:24

and hanging out with his friends coming in

02:48:24 --> 02:48:25

all late. We're not talking about that type

02:48:25 --> 02:48:26

of brother.

02:48:27 --> 02:48:29

Right? I'm not asking you to lead someone

02:48:29 --> 02:48:31

that's not I'm not asking you to follow

02:48:31 --> 02:48:33

someone that's not even leading himself.

02:48:33 --> 02:48:34

That's not what this is about.

02:48:35 --> 02:48:38

We're talking about men that are literally practicing

02:48:38 --> 02:48:40

their deen that's asking you

02:48:41 --> 02:48:42

to tighten up.

02:48:43 --> 02:48:45

You should not be asked why. You should

02:48:45 --> 02:48:46

just tighten up.

02:48:47 --> 02:48:50

No. He's he's he's my husband. He has

02:48:50 --> 02:48:51

the right to ask me such as I

02:48:51 --> 02:48:52

have the right to ask him if he

02:48:52 --> 02:48:54

was the name of Go to, you know,

02:48:54 --> 02:48:56

tighten up. So I had to get that

02:48:56 --> 02:48:57

in there, didn't you say so?

02:48:58 --> 02:48:58

No. Yeah. No. No. No. No. No. No.

02:48:58 --> 02:48:59

No. No. No. No. No. No. No.

02:49:04 --> 02:49:04

Problem.

02:49:05 --> 02:49:07

No. I believe

02:49:07 --> 02:49:08

I believe

02:49:08 --> 02:49:10

Sis, I love you, but I'm gonna I'm

02:49:10 --> 02:49:12

gonna join in here. Go ahead. Go ahead,

02:49:12 --> 02:49:15

Paul. The reason why it's your problem is

02:49:16 --> 02:49:18

what you have to do is be strategic

02:49:18 --> 02:49:19

with your husband.

02:49:21 --> 02:49:24

That's what you need to do. Because if

02:49:24 --> 02:49:25

not if not,

02:49:26 --> 02:49:29

he has the leverage to exercise options.

02:49:31 --> 02:49:32

Okay. No. It's okay because This this goes

02:49:32 --> 02:49:35

back to this this goes back it's okay.

02:49:35 --> 02:49:35

So let's

02:49:37 --> 02:49:38

I can feel the energy.

02:49:39 --> 02:49:42

What I was saying this is what I

02:49:42 --> 02:49:44

was saying earlier. No. What I was saying

02:49:44 --> 02:49:45

earlier was that

02:49:46 --> 02:49:48

the the remember I was I was saying

02:49:48 --> 02:49:51

that a lot of the stuff that we

02:49:51 --> 02:49:52

understand from the dean,

02:49:53 --> 02:49:55

actually, it doesn't sit well with us because

02:49:55 --> 02:49:58

it's in direct conflict with what we've been

02:49:58 --> 02:50:00

told about our own worth and our own

02:50:00 --> 02:50:03

everything and our place within our husband's hearts.

02:50:04 --> 02:50:05

So I think I think that's one of

02:50:05 --> 02:50:07

the reasons why there is, like, this visceral

02:50:07 --> 02:50:09

reaction. But, guys, I I know this is

02:50:09 --> 02:50:12

fun, but I really wanna bring sister Zuleika

02:50:12 --> 02:50:14

in because she was what she she brought

02:50:14 --> 02:50:16

Mashaella a lot of the points about the

02:50:16 --> 02:50:18

working out you've mentioned about disorders. Let's let's

02:50:18 --> 02:50:20

go, sis. What what did you wanna say?

02:50:21 --> 02:50:23

Well, can everyone hear me? It's like yeah.

02:50:23 --> 02:50:25

Well, thanks so much. I'll be brief because

02:50:25 --> 02:50:27

I I'm conscious of all the time.

02:50:27 --> 02:50:29

That that we can discuss this. But,

02:50:30 --> 02:50:31

what I meant I think there was a

02:50:31 --> 02:50:33

bit of a misunderstanding what I meant. I

02:50:33 --> 02:50:36

100% agree with everyone if they they

02:50:36 --> 02:50:39

I think I believe in, like, autonomy. Everyone

02:50:39 --> 02:50:39

should

02:50:40 --> 02:50:42

have control over their own health, over their

02:50:42 --> 02:50:42

own,

02:50:43 --> 02:50:44

their own fitness.

02:50:46 --> 02:50:48

All all things are extremely important, you know.

02:50:48 --> 02:50:50

And I'm sure from nutritionist to fitness experts,

02:50:50 --> 02:50:53

everyone it's all out there. There's data. There's

02:50:53 --> 02:50:55

research about it, about ways to have live

02:50:55 --> 02:50:57

long, healthy lives.

02:50:57 --> 02:51:00

For the majority of people who don't have

02:51:00 --> 02:51:03

disabilities or illnesses that are of no fault

02:51:03 --> 02:51:05

of their own. But we know we know

02:51:05 --> 02:51:07

that that's the fact. What I meant was

02:51:07 --> 02:51:07

that,

02:51:08 --> 02:51:11

as you ever as probably everyone knows, a

02:51:11 --> 02:51:13

major issue for young people, I'm talking about

02:51:13 --> 02:51:14

Gen z

02:51:14 --> 02:51:14

people,

02:51:15 --> 02:51:16

up to the age of 80.

02:51:18 --> 02:51:21

Eating disorders are is particularly in young girls

02:51:21 --> 02:51:24

are shooting up record numbers.

02:51:25 --> 02:51:27

Most health systems don't have the capacity to

02:51:27 --> 02:51:29

to kind of deal with that demand for

02:51:29 --> 02:51:31

treatment for these young girls.

02:51:32 --> 02:51:34

And it's linked to social media. We know

02:51:34 --> 02:51:36

it. We know Jonathan Hyde, the psychologist,

02:51:36 --> 02:51:39

always talks about how TikTok, Instagram, these kind

02:51:39 --> 02:51:40

of things are really

02:51:41 --> 02:51:41

fueling

02:51:42 --> 02:51:44

a a a serious mental health problem among

02:51:44 --> 02:51:46

young people. Yeah. With epidemic, which is which

02:51:46 --> 02:51:48

is, by the way, they eat. And eating

02:51:48 --> 02:51:49

disorders are

02:51:50 --> 02:51:53

complex things. They they they're they're complex psychological

02:51:53 --> 02:51:54

disorders.

02:51:54 --> 02:51:56

But we know that,

02:51:57 --> 02:51:59

also in the research and this is quite

02:51:59 --> 02:52:01

interesting, interesting, actually, and I think it would

02:52:01 --> 02:52:01

be wonderful

02:52:02 --> 02:52:04

for one day to see, on your,

02:52:04 --> 02:52:06

on your shirt, Naima. So I may be

02:52:06 --> 02:52:10

talking to some Muslim psych, psychologists, therapists who

02:52:10 --> 02:52:13

deal with young Muslims with eating disorders. Because

02:52:13 --> 02:52:16

young young Muslims, people from ethnic minority,

02:52:18 --> 02:52:19

poor poor treatment for them,

02:52:20 --> 02:52:23

and bad diagnosis, bad results to help them

02:52:23 --> 02:52:24

these young girls with really poor,

02:52:25 --> 02:52:27

outcomes on constellating disorders.

02:52:28 --> 02:52:30

But we know that children

02:52:31 --> 02:52:33

as as as children are

02:52:33 --> 02:52:35

very good at picking up things.

02:52:35 --> 02:52:38

Even things that are not explicit, they are

02:52:38 --> 02:52:39

very good at picking up

02:52:40 --> 02:52:40

behaviors,

02:52:42 --> 02:52:43

with their parents. And

02:52:44 --> 02:52:46

as we were as we've been discussing,

02:52:47 --> 02:52:49

somebody saying, that they would like their spouse

02:52:49 --> 02:52:52

to maybe take more care when it comes

02:52:52 --> 02:52:52

to their fitness,

02:52:53 --> 02:52:55

to be more like them, to try and

02:52:55 --> 02:52:57

encourage them. Because I think it's encouragement mainly

02:52:57 --> 02:52:59

that you're that that we're kind of asking

02:52:59 --> 02:53:00

for and encourage someone

02:53:01 --> 02:53:03

to do things that are beneficial for them.

02:53:04 --> 02:53:05

That

02:53:05 --> 02:53:09

is put that aside, there's also how we,

02:53:09 --> 02:53:10

as individuals, deal with

02:53:11 --> 02:53:13

real self esteem problems when it comes to

02:53:13 --> 02:53:15

weight. Whether it is real,

02:53:15 --> 02:53:17

whether someone is really overweight,

02:53:17 --> 02:53:19

and that you could say that that self

02:53:19 --> 02:53:19

esteem

02:53:20 --> 02:53:21

that low self esteem is as a result

02:53:21 --> 02:53:24

of that. But self esteem for people that

02:53:24 --> 02:53:26

are not really overweight even. People who just

02:53:26 --> 02:53:28

don't like their parents and their bodies. But

02:53:28 --> 02:53:30

we know children pick up on these things

02:53:30 --> 02:53:32

and they notice when their parents are not

02:53:32 --> 02:53:34

or their mother, for example, is not eating

02:53:34 --> 02:53:35

dinner with them,

02:53:36 --> 02:53:37

is constantly

02:53:37 --> 02:53:40

making comments about particular foods, about their body.

02:53:41 --> 02:53:44

Statements like, I hate myself today or or

02:53:44 --> 02:53:45

I hate my look or I feel so

02:53:45 --> 02:53:47

fat. These are statements and and there's there's

02:53:47 --> 02:53:49

a lot of psychological research,

02:53:49 --> 02:53:50

on this,

02:53:51 --> 02:53:53

on on particularly in pediatric

02:53:54 --> 02:53:57

psychology on understanding what what impact does this

02:53:57 --> 02:53:58

have on children.

02:53:59 --> 02:54:00

And the and the the the data was

02:54:00 --> 02:54:02

actually quite stark when you think about it.

02:54:02 --> 02:54:04

It's quite depressing because it's it seems like

02:54:04 --> 02:54:05

the smallest thing. How can,

02:54:06 --> 02:54:08

the way we see ourselves, which we have

02:54:08 --> 02:54:09

every right to be able to

02:54:10 --> 02:54:12

to have this criticism of ourselves.

02:54:12 --> 02:54:14

How on earth could that affect a child?

02:54:15 --> 02:54:16

And it was like, go ahead.

02:54:16 --> 02:54:18

No. No. No. I please finish your your

02:54:18 --> 02:54:20

your sentence. I'll I'll drop it off to

02:54:20 --> 02:54:23

it. It's thinking but but so sometimes it's

02:54:23 --> 02:54:25

people are are not aware that

02:54:26 --> 02:54:27

behaviors that are almost

02:54:27 --> 02:54:30

not are almost not they're not very conscious

02:54:30 --> 02:54:31

behaviors.

02:54:32 --> 02:54:35

That everyday behavior is about something as everyday

02:54:35 --> 02:54:37

as daily as food.

02:54:38 --> 02:54:40

How that impacts a child and the data

02:54:40 --> 02:54:42

shows those children have a much greater risk

02:54:42 --> 02:54:43

of suffering from eating disorders.

02:54:45 --> 02:54:47

And that's the worry. Yeah. That's the worry.

02:54:47 --> 02:54:48

Yeah. That's the point that I

02:54:49 --> 02:54:51

bring it up earlier in terms of we

02:54:51 --> 02:54:52

model for our children

02:54:53 --> 02:54:56

healthy eating and healthy exercise and healthy living.

02:54:57 --> 02:55:00

Yeah. Because what you're what you're describing is

02:55:00 --> 02:55:00

not healthy.

02:55:01 --> 02:55:04

Right? Not A a woman woman who is

02:55:04 --> 02:55:06

who is, like, depriving herself in the way

02:55:06 --> 02:55:07

that you described,

02:55:08 --> 02:55:10

who is, you know, criticizing her body,

02:55:10 --> 02:55:13

complaining about her body. That's not healthy. Right?

02:55:13 --> 02:55:16

That's not a healthy body. Right? So No.

02:55:16 --> 02:55:18

It's not a 100%. And but, what I

02:55:18 --> 02:55:20

mean is that it might not be very

02:55:20 --> 02:55:22

it might not even be very obvious behaviors.

02:55:23 --> 02:55:23

But

02:55:24 --> 02:55:26

it the point is that for some some

02:55:26 --> 02:55:28

reason, children are able to pick up on

02:55:28 --> 02:55:29

this quite well.

02:55:30 --> 02:55:32

And this maybe has something to do also

02:55:32 --> 02:55:34

with the school behavior. Schools are peers,

02:55:35 --> 02:55:37

peers bullying the fat kid, for example.

02:55:38 --> 02:55:39

When

02:55:39 --> 02:55:41

these it's the the

02:55:41 --> 02:55:44

the environment the home environment. It's not that

02:55:44 --> 02:55:46

you need to shelter children with certain things.

02:55:46 --> 02:55:47

Of course, you need to treat your child

02:55:47 --> 02:55:49

that it's not like it's maybe you shouldn't

02:55:49 --> 02:55:51

have sweets every day. No. Your teeth will

02:55:51 --> 02:55:54

rot. But putting the emphasis on weight on

02:55:54 --> 02:55:55

a child,

02:55:56 --> 02:56:00

is not directly done necessarily directly to them.

02:56:00 --> 02:56:02

But it's also how we as adults act

02:56:03 --> 02:56:04

around them

02:56:04 --> 02:56:05

about certain things.

02:56:06 --> 02:56:07

And that's what it that's what I was

02:56:07 --> 02:56:09

just trying to share that that that I

02:56:09 --> 02:56:10

think that's a really that was a really

02:56:10 --> 02:56:13

interesting research paper. And there's other research papers

02:56:13 --> 02:56:13

about that,

02:56:15 --> 02:56:18

that affects particular mothers. So mothers, dieting mothers,

02:56:18 --> 02:56:19

how that influences

02:56:21 --> 02:56:24

the perception of children with their own body,

02:56:25 --> 02:56:27

as they grow up as well. And and

02:56:27 --> 02:56:29

this is if you remember in last week's

02:56:29 --> 02:56:31

live, this is why I said to the

02:56:31 --> 02:56:34

sister very directly, look. Yeah. You are you

02:56:34 --> 02:56:35

you are at home.

02:56:35 --> 02:56:38

And in between changing you know, taking the

02:56:38 --> 02:56:39

clothes out of laundry, I want you to

02:56:39 --> 02:56:41

drop down and do 10 knee push ups.

02:56:42 --> 02:56:44

You model for your kids

02:56:44 --> 02:56:45

healthy living.

02:56:46 --> 02:56:48

You don't need a gym at home. How

02:56:48 --> 02:56:49

you choose

02:56:50 --> 02:56:51

to live

02:56:51 --> 02:56:54

can represent to your kids what is healthy

02:56:54 --> 02:56:58

living, healthy choices, a healthy mindset, which attaches

02:56:58 --> 02:57:00

to what I said earlier, which is the

02:57:00 --> 02:57:02

problem of self esteem.

02:57:03 --> 02:57:06

We keep teaching children about this concept of

02:57:06 --> 02:57:07

self esteem,

02:57:07 --> 02:57:10

But, essentially, sis, what you have just articulated

02:57:10 --> 02:57:12

or what I'm taking from that is

02:57:13 --> 02:57:14

my worth

02:57:14 --> 02:57:15

is attached.

02:57:16 --> 02:57:17

I either condition

02:57:18 --> 02:57:19

is my weight,

02:57:20 --> 02:57:20

my body,

02:57:21 --> 02:57:22

my shape.

02:57:22 --> 02:57:25

How I feel and think about this is

02:57:25 --> 02:57:28

connected to my worth. I e, when I'm

02:57:28 --> 02:57:29

consistent with,

02:57:30 --> 02:57:32

hitting the scale, the number I want when

02:57:32 --> 02:57:34

I'm on the treadmill, when I'm doing well,

02:57:34 --> 02:57:36

I think highly of myself.

02:57:36 --> 02:57:39

My kids see that. When I'm not hitting

02:57:39 --> 02:57:41

the scale like I want to, I'm not

02:57:41 --> 02:57:43

hitting the gym like I want to, I'm

02:57:43 --> 02:57:45

not fitting into the dress that I want,

02:57:45 --> 02:57:48

I think less of myself. I'm depressed and

02:57:48 --> 02:57:50

struggling to get out of bed. My kids

02:57:50 --> 02:57:53

see that. It's a thinking problem, and that

02:57:53 --> 02:57:54

thinking problem has

02:57:55 --> 02:57:56

actions associated

02:57:56 --> 02:57:58

which our kids pick up on.

02:57:59 --> 02:58:01

Yeah. That's what I'm taking on. No. Yeah.

02:58:01 --> 02:58:03

I I see what you mean. I see

02:58:03 --> 02:58:04

what you mean. I would slightly push back

02:58:04 --> 02:58:06

on that because I do understand what you

02:58:06 --> 02:58:08

the the connections you're making.

02:58:08 --> 02:58:09

But,

02:58:09 --> 02:58:11

the slight pushback I would have is

02:58:12 --> 02:58:14

kind of interrogating a bit more

02:58:15 --> 02:58:15

how

02:58:16 --> 02:58:17

how the how worth

02:58:18 --> 02:58:20

when it comes to it. So I personally

02:58:20 --> 02:58:21

I've I can say this from a privileged

02:58:21 --> 02:58:24

position because I'm I'm not overweight and I

02:58:24 --> 02:58:24

haven't

02:58:25 --> 02:58:27

genetics, which usually plays on with it. My

02:58:27 --> 02:58:30

family, my siblings, it's not usually an issue.

02:58:30 --> 02:58:31

It's never really been an issue for us.

02:58:32 --> 02:58:35

But I can understand how some people who

02:58:35 --> 02:58:35

are,

02:58:35 --> 02:58:38

who fixate on their weight on the scale,

02:58:38 --> 02:58:41

even when it has never necessarily been,

02:58:42 --> 02:58:45

something that has just they have it hasn't

02:58:45 --> 02:58:47

been as a result of some weight gain.

02:58:47 --> 02:58:49

That for a long time since adolescence, since

02:58:49 --> 02:58:52

teenage years, they've just been on the chubbier

02:58:52 --> 02:58:53

side or slightly overweight.

02:58:53 --> 02:58:55

Or, after,

02:58:56 --> 02:58:58

we know that there's difficult moments in people's

02:58:58 --> 02:58:59

lives can also,

02:59:00 --> 02:59:02

result in weight gain. So I'm saying that

02:59:02 --> 02:59:04

it's not always

02:59:04 --> 02:59:07

it's not always to to blame as as

02:59:07 --> 02:59:08

something as simple as someone not moving enough

02:59:08 --> 02:59:11

or someone not eating enough. There are

02:59:12 --> 02:59:14

example when I think about it, when everyone

02:59:14 --> 02:59:16

says, oh, pandemic, weight gain, and during the

02:59:16 --> 02:59:18

pandemic when people when people were unhappy having

02:59:18 --> 02:59:20

to be locked out locked up at home

02:59:20 --> 02:59:22

and unable to go out and do things

02:59:22 --> 02:59:23

like that.

02:59:24 --> 02:59:24

People

02:59:25 --> 02:59:25

go through

02:59:26 --> 02:59:26

different

02:59:27 --> 02:59:29

weight fluctuations in their life and,

02:59:30 --> 02:59:32

going from a to b, so the weight

02:59:32 --> 02:59:34

unhappy weight at which they're at and then

02:59:34 --> 02:59:36

b being the the weight goal.

02:59:37 --> 02:59:39

That is a that

02:59:40 --> 02:59:42

going from a to b is is in

02:59:42 --> 02:59:45

in and of itself difficult. We know that

02:59:45 --> 02:59:46

95% of diets

02:59:47 --> 02:59:48

fail because

02:59:48 --> 02:59:49

it's not a simple,

02:59:50 --> 02:59:52

it's quite difficult without getting to the new

02:59:52 --> 02:59:55

sort of nutrition and nutritional science behind this.

02:59:55 --> 02:59:57

But what I'm trying to say is that,

02:59:57 --> 02:59:58

how do we,

02:59:59 --> 03:00:02

how do we ensure that people are

03:00:02 --> 03:00:04

are happy or satisfied

03:00:06 --> 03:00:07

with themselves or their lives.

03:00:09 --> 03:00:12

But during that, not always thinking, oh, eventually

03:00:12 --> 03:00:13

when I lose weight, I'll be happy. Or

03:00:13 --> 03:00:15

when I lose weight. That's a thinking problem.

03:00:16 --> 03:00:17

That's

03:00:17 --> 03:00:20

a thinking problem. Yeah. That's a thinking problem.

03:00:21 --> 03:00:23

Right. And and so again, as someone who's

03:00:23 --> 03:00:24

young

03:00:24 --> 03:00:26

look. If you look at kids,

03:00:26 --> 03:00:29

kids can their parents can give them everything

03:00:36 --> 03:00:39

It's not until they get the idea from

03:00:39 --> 03:00:41

somewhere, whether it's at home or at school,

03:00:42 --> 03:00:44

that there is something wrong with that.

03:00:45 --> 03:00:47

And then how as a young mind

03:00:48 --> 03:00:49

perceives and evaluates

03:00:50 --> 03:00:53

that begins the problem. Again, this is why

03:00:53 --> 03:00:55

I'm saying it's a thinking problem. And the

03:00:55 --> 03:00:57

same thing with diets. Most diets fail because

03:00:57 --> 03:00:59

it is a thinking problem.

03:01:00 --> 03:01:01

If you talk to most,

03:01:01 --> 03:01:04

you know, fitness experts, it's not really so

03:01:04 --> 03:01:06

much what you choose to do in terms

03:01:06 --> 03:01:07

of the gym.

03:01:07 --> 03:01:09

It's the thinking you have that allows you

03:01:09 --> 03:01:10

to be consistent

03:01:11 --> 03:01:12

with going to the gym to do whatever

03:01:12 --> 03:01:14

workout you wanna do. It's the thinking you

03:01:14 --> 03:01:16

have that allows you to be consistent with

03:01:16 --> 03:01:18

whatever diet you choose.

03:01:19 --> 03:01:21

Right? But, again, the thinking problem that allows

03:01:21 --> 03:01:23

us to comfort eat, which then breaks the

03:01:23 --> 03:01:24

diet.

03:01:24 --> 03:01:27

Comfort eat within leads us to not want

03:01:27 --> 03:01:29

to go to gym and lay on the

03:01:29 --> 03:01:30

couch and watch Netflix,

03:01:31 --> 03:01:33

not chill, but Netflix instead of going to

03:01:33 --> 03:01:34

the gym.

03:01:35 --> 03:01:36

Thinking problem.

03:01:37 --> 03:01:39

I I think that's the point

03:01:39 --> 03:01:41

that I'm saying. Yeah. I I hear what

03:01:41 --> 03:01:44

you're I hear what you're saying, sister Zuleika.

03:01:44 --> 03:01:46

I think I'm I'm I'm feeling a bit

03:01:47 --> 03:01:48

catchy, I think, because

03:01:49 --> 03:01:50

it's

03:01:51 --> 03:01:52

the unfortunate thing

03:01:53 --> 03:01:55

one of the unfortunate things about

03:01:55 --> 03:01:57

this the world we live in today

03:01:57 --> 03:01:59

is that we think that we knows or

03:01:59 --> 03:02:00

we know

03:02:01 --> 03:02:03

that we that we we know so much

03:02:03 --> 03:02:05

more about everything than we used to. Right?

03:02:06 --> 03:02:08

That can be a blessing and a curse.

03:02:08 --> 03:02:10

Because what I find happens is

03:02:12 --> 03:02:12

when

03:02:13 --> 03:02:14

we make a case

03:02:14 --> 03:02:15

for a standard,

03:02:16 --> 03:02:18

there's always it feels like to me, and

03:02:18 --> 03:02:20

I could be wrong. Please give me pushback

03:02:20 --> 03:02:22

if you guys feel that I'm I'm I'm

03:02:22 --> 03:02:23

out of pocket here.

03:02:24 --> 03:02:26

But when there's a standard presented,

03:02:27 --> 03:02:28

there's often

03:02:29 --> 03:02:29

someone

03:02:31 --> 03:02:33

making a case for why that standard is

03:02:33 --> 03:02:34

unfair,

03:02:35 --> 03:02:37

Why that standard is is is is harmful.

03:02:38 --> 03:02:41

Why that standard is prejudiced against this group

03:02:41 --> 03:02:44

or that group. Right? And that's problematic for

03:02:44 --> 03:02:44

me because

03:02:45 --> 03:02:47

if we're going to say that

03:02:48 --> 03:02:50

because some people feel this way or because

03:02:50 --> 03:02:52

some people present that way or because some

03:02:52 --> 03:02:55

people, you know, experience this situation in this

03:02:55 --> 03:02:58

this this way, this standard is not something

03:02:58 --> 03:02:59

that should should remain,

03:03:00 --> 03:03:02

then we have no standards. Right? That's that's

03:03:02 --> 03:03:04

what I feel that p and and human

03:03:04 --> 03:03:05

beings

03:03:06 --> 03:03:08

tend to take the easy way most of

03:03:08 --> 03:03:09

the time. Right?

03:03:10 --> 03:03:11

If I can get an excuse

03:03:12 --> 03:03:15

for why I shouldn't be on the treadmill

03:03:15 --> 03:03:16

or I shouldn't be in the gym or

03:03:16 --> 03:03:18

I should not have 3 cupcakes in a

03:03:18 --> 03:03:19

row,

03:03:19 --> 03:03:21

I'm gonna take that excuse. And where I

03:03:21 --> 03:03:23

see it, for example, is

03:03:24 --> 03:03:26

whenever we mention about weight gain,

03:03:26 --> 03:03:28

what do we hear first and foremost? Right?

03:03:28 --> 03:03:30

Or or losing weight? Let's just let's keep

03:03:30 --> 03:03:33

it clear to losing weight. Whenever we talk

03:03:33 --> 03:03:35

about losing weight, what are some of the

03:03:35 --> 03:03:38

comments that you always get back? Well, what

03:03:38 --> 03:03:40

about those with thyroid issues?

03:03:40 --> 03:03:42

What about those with an eating disorder?

03:03:43 --> 03:03:43

Right?

03:03:44 --> 03:03:45

And and those

03:03:45 --> 03:03:47

those those exceptions

03:03:48 --> 03:03:50

are being brought in order to weaken

03:03:51 --> 03:03:54

the rule. Right? And the majority of people

03:03:54 --> 03:03:56

should be living by the rule. Right? The

03:03:56 --> 03:03:58

majority of people can live by the rule.

03:03:58 --> 03:04:00

Right? Of course, there are exceptions, but those

03:04:00 --> 03:04:01

exceptions

03:04:01 --> 03:04:03

should not be brought in order to weaken

03:04:03 --> 03:04:06

the rule. So, sis, for example, you've brought

03:04:06 --> 03:04:09

some really interesting research with regards to eating

03:04:09 --> 03:04:10

disorders in children,

03:04:10 --> 03:04:12

But we have been talking this whole time

03:04:13 --> 03:04:15

about sisters being in shape and being healthy

03:04:15 --> 03:04:17

and strong and fit. But it kind of

03:04:17 --> 03:04:20

muddies the waters now when we start to

03:04:20 --> 03:04:21

problematize

03:04:21 --> 03:04:24

women looking after themselves and being healthy and

03:04:24 --> 03:04:26

being, you know, kind of in control of

03:04:26 --> 03:04:29

their diet. And we problematize that by bringing

03:04:29 --> 03:04:31

in the idea that but if your children

03:04:31 --> 03:04:34

see you doing that, that may damage them

03:04:34 --> 03:04:36

and then will lead for them to have

03:04:36 --> 03:04:38

eating disorders later on. I don't know. That's

03:04:38 --> 03:04:40

No. No. Honestly, that's that's that's how it's

03:04:40 --> 03:04:43

changing. That it's it's muddying the water. It's

03:04:43 --> 03:04:45

like, okay. Children have what's that got to

03:04:45 --> 03:04:46

do with what we're talking about? No. But

03:04:46 --> 03:04:48

I think it yeah. I know I know

03:04:48 --> 03:04:49

what you mean. You're probably thinking it it

03:04:49 --> 03:04:51

it would complicate it,

03:04:51 --> 03:04:53

the point, that you and everyone else is

03:04:53 --> 03:04:55

trying to say. What I really meant by

03:04:55 --> 03:04:56

it was

03:04:57 --> 03:04:59

that I think it is an it's an

03:04:59 --> 03:05:02

issue that may that for many people is

03:05:02 --> 03:05:04

a sort of black and white issue. There's

03:05:04 --> 03:05:06

no nuance in it. There's no because if

03:05:06 --> 03:05:09

we are really talking about western society, this

03:05:09 --> 03:05:11

is sort of our perceptions of

03:05:12 --> 03:05:14

of, of weight to make gain. It's is

03:05:14 --> 03:05:16

this is kind of it would I'm talking

03:05:16 --> 03:05:18

we're referring to what it's like to be

03:05:18 --> 03:05:20

in western countries whether it's the UK, America,

03:05:20 --> 03:05:21

or whatever.

03:05:22 --> 03:05:24

And what I'm saying is that

03:05:25 --> 03:05:27

we know that there's a problem out there,

03:05:28 --> 03:05:31

and eating disorders are a massive issue that,

03:05:31 --> 03:05:32

as I said,

03:05:33 --> 03:05:33

disproportionately

03:05:34 --> 03:05:34

affect

03:05:35 --> 03:05:36

BAME,

03:05:36 --> 03:05:37

Muslim

03:05:37 --> 03:05:40

young people, when it comes to poor outcomes

03:05:40 --> 03:05:40

of treatment.

03:05:41 --> 03:05:42

And also within

03:05:43 --> 03:05:43

social,

03:05:44 --> 03:05:44

sort of

03:05:45 --> 03:05:47

cultural stigma around it as well.

03:05:49 --> 03:05:50

I was referring to

03:05:51 --> 03:05:53

the specific points of that because I I

03:05:53 --> 03:05:55

think it is an interesting question. I think

03:05:55 --> 03:05:57

it's an it's an interesting problem. How do

03:05:57 --> 03:05:59

how as adults do

03:06:00 --> 03:06:02

there's something that seems harmless in people,

03:06:03 --> 03:06:05

and it seems harmless and very personal, almost

03:06:05 --> 03:06:07

like it shouldn't affect anyone, and it doesn't

03:06:07 --> 03:06:07

affect anyone.

03:06:08 --> 03:06:09

What what

03:06:10 --> 03:06:12

what is the influence and the impact of

03:06:12 --> 03:06:15

that on chill on children, you know? But

03:06:15 --> 03:06:17

just I was just saying that you might

03:06:17 --> 03:06:19

think it's irrelevant, but I think it is

03:06:19 --> 03:06:20

kind of irrelevant.

03:06:21 --> 03:06:22

It is a relevant problem because,

03:06:23 --> 03:06:26

as I said, it's it seems like something,

03:06:27 --> 03:06:29

a personal critique, a thing that will only

03:06:29 --> 03:06:30

affect you.

03:06:31 --> 03:06:31

But,

03:06:31 --> 03:06:35

I think it has wider implications as well.

03:06:35 --> 03:06:35

So,

03:06:36 --> 03:06:37

I think that's we can agree to this

03:06:37 --> 03:06:39

real quick. But, it's really interesting to

03:06:42 --> 03:06:44

patience. Thank you. I think thank you. Was

03:06:44 --> 03:06:46

to jump in. Thanks so much for that.

03:06:46 --> 03:06:48

I would like to jump in, brother Nasir.

03:06:48 --> 03:06:51

One minute, please. Actually actually, actually, I'm picking

03:06:51 --> 03:06:52

up in a minute. Actually, hold on. Hold

03:06:52 --> 03:06:54

on. Hold on. Let's be clear. Actually, you

03:06:54 --> 03:06:56

can wait one second. So,

03:06:57 --> 03:06:59

what I would say, sis, is that point

03:06:59 --> 03:07:00

that you're making

03:07:01 --> 03:07:03

is the modeling, and I think that's an

03:07:03 --> 03:07:06

important point to remember. Right? You model to

03:07:06 --> 03:07:07

your kids.

03:07:07 --> 03:07:08

Right?

03:07:08 --> 03:07:10

And if it's going to be healthy or

03:07:10 --> 03:07:11

not.

03:07:11 --> 03:07:13

Sister, you can join in now.

03:07:14 --> 03:07:16

Okay. Thank you, brother and sister. But sister,

03:07:17 --> 03:07:20

the thing you talk about dieting and mom,

03:07:20 --> 03:07:23

if you let's forget dieting because dieting is

03:07:23 --> 03:07:23

always,

03:07:24 --> 03:07:26

you set yourself for failure. Let's say healthy

03:07:27 --> 03:07:27

lifestyle.

03:07:28 --> 03:07:30

Like, let have you can turn into a

03:07:30 --> 03:07:33

family attitude. You can help you can get

03:07:33 --> 03:07:34

the children to cook with your healthy,

03:07:35 --> 03:07:38

like, healthy foods. Have, like, healthy snacks. Make

03:07:38 --> 03:07:40

it like a whole family thing rather than

03:07:40 --> 03:07:43

just mom eating differently. Everybody eats the same.

03:07:43 --> 03:07:45

Everybody is the same. You have healthy meals,

03:07:45 --> 03:07:47

you prepare it together as family. You teach

03:07:47 --> 03:07:49

it when you're preparing, get the children involved

03:07:49 --> 03:07:51

so they know what's going on to their

03:07:51 --> 03:07:51

food.

03:07:52 --> 03:07:53

So they realize it and they see it,

03:07:53 --> 03:07:55

and then that will give them idea. So

03:07:55 --> 03:07:58

let's say I'm at home doing an YouTube

03:07:58 --> 03:08:00

exercise video. I'm like, guys, come join me.

03:08:00 --> 03:08:02

So make it like something fun for them

03:08:02 --> 03:08:04

to do, and they it builds up.

03:08:05 --> 03:08:06

It gives them something to do. So they're

03:08:06 --> 03:08:07

not just saying mom

03:08:08 --> 03:08:11

Yeah. I'm so struggling with this concept. I'm

03:08:11 --> 03:08:14

I'm really it's it's making me mad. I'm

03:08:14 --> 03:08:15

I'm actually mad.

03:08:16 --> 03:08:17

I'm really mad

03:08:18 --> 03:08:20

because I'm thinking of

03:08:21 --> 03:08:23

of of of people that I've known, myself

03:08:23 --> 03:08:25

and and friends of mine, again,

03:08:25 --> 03:08:29

who have active lifestyles and eat in a

03:08:29 --> 03:08:30

healthy balanced way,

03:08:31 --> 03:08:32

from a place of love and self care.

03:08:32 --> 03:08:35

Right? Yeah. And I'm 1 and I'm looking

03:08:35 --> 03:08:37

at it from their children's perspective. Just as

03:08:37 --> 03:08:39

you were saying, sister Joadia. Right? I have

03:08:39 --> 03:08:41

a friend of mine who she she walks

03:08:41 --> 03:08:43

a certain number of miles every week. Right?

03:08:44 --> 03:08:46

It's just it's and her children learn to

03:08:46 --> 03:08:48

walk with her because they were very young,

03:08:48 --> 03:08:49

but she should take them on these walks

03:08:49 --> 03:08:51

in the countryside. And that's that's just what

03:08:51 --> 03:08:53

they do. That's how they live.

03:08:53 --> 03:08:55

So to for someone to

03:08:56 --> 03:08:57

study

03:08:57 --> 03:08:58

or

03:08:58 --> 03:09:00

or anything to say that

03:09:01 --> 03:09:03

people making healthy choices

03:09:03 --> 03:09:05

is damaging their children psychologically.

03:09:06 --> 03:09:08

I just I can't. Like, if they have

03:09:08 --> 03:09:10

no. No. No. I mean, it's That's not

03:09:10 --> 03:09:12

what I'm saying. And then that's not what

03:09:12 --> 03:09:14

I'm saying. Or maybe damaging them by accident.

03:09:14 --> 03:09:16

You know what I mean? I think that's

03:09:16 --> 03:09:17

a bit yeah. There's a misunderstanding.

03:09:17 --> 03:09:19

Just I'll briefly say,

03:09:19 --> 03:09:21

that's not what I meant and that's not

03:09:21 --> 03:09:23

what the research says. It says that behaviors

03:09:23 --> 03:09:25

so when you have a goal and you

03:09:25 --> 03:09:27

fixate on a goal to lose weight, for

03:09:27 --> 03:09:29

majority of people, that has to kind of

03:09:29 --> 03:09:30

you have to,

03:09:31 --> 03:09:33

sort of take on quite it's quite a

03:09:33 --> 03:09:35

challenging role, which means you have to restrict

03:09:35 --> 03:09:37

what you eat. So health that's what I'm

03:09:37 --> 03:09:40

saying. Healthy living healthy, moving doesn't make somebody,

03:09:41 --> 03:09:44

a very slim slim slim person. It it

03:09:44 --> 03:09:46

it doesn't you can still be overweight

03:09:46 --> 03:09:48

and still be eating healthily and still be

03:09:48 --> 03:09:50

moving a lot. It's just the way your

03:09:50 --> 03:09:52

body is, the way you've as I said,

03:09:52 --> 03:09:55

from adolescence, you can still just be a

03:09:55 --> 03:09:57

chubby or consider an overweight person.

03:09:57 --> 03:10:00

But when you are undergoing the goal of

03:10:00 --> 03:10:02

when you're trying to pursue the goal of

03:10:03 --> 03:10:05

major weight loss, it means major restriction of

03:10:05 --> 03:10:08

your diet, of what you eat. Mhmm. Also

03:10:08 --> 03:10:10

being very strict with that, which means it,

03:10:10 --> 03:10:12

of course, takes over your daily life. It

03:10:12 --> 03:10:14

takes over everything you eat. You have to

03:10:14 --> 03:10:15

be at the back of your pockets. Make

03:10:15 --> 03:10:18

sure you're, locking your calories into your foot

03:10:18 --> 03:10:20

bit, your steps, your movement, how many calories

03:10:20 --> 03:10:22

you're moving. So that of itself, that behavior,

03:10:23 --> 03:10:23

okay,

03:10:24 --> 03:10:26

is known to be possibly harmful

03:10:27 --> 03:10:29

to children if they are if they see

03:10:29 --> 03:10:29

that.

03:10:30 --> 03:10:31

I wish I could send you the papers

03:10:31 --> 03:10:33

because they're very interesting. No. I ain't gonna

03:10:33 --> 03:10:35

read it. They're super, super interesting. Can't read

03:10:35 --> 03:10:37

that. And it comes yeah. And it comes

03:10:37 --> 03:10:39

and it comes from a specific it's specifically

03:10:39 --> 03:10:42

not all children, but children who are predisposed

03:10:43 --> 03:10:45

to eating disorders and children who predisposed

03:10:46 --> 03:10:48

to disordered eating. That's it. Right. And that

03:10:48 --> 03:10:51

that that small small small that it seems

03:10:51 --> 03:10:53

small, but that small percentage of kids that

03:10:53 --> 03:10:55

are predisposed to that is growing because of

03:10:55 --> 03:10:57

the times modern society is now on this

03:10:57 --> 03:10:59

one. Growing. I agree with you, but it's

03:10:59 --> 03:11:01

not growing because, you know, their mothers are

03:11:01 --> 03:11:04

becoming more health conscious. Right? It's social media.

03:11:05 --> 03:11:07

The social media and the peers and the

03:11:07 --> 03:11:09

environment around them. And I would argue

03:11:10 --> 03:11:12

that, you know, for girls and again, I

03:11:12 --> 03:11:13

don't I haven't read the science. So I'm

03:11:13 --> 03:11:16

not gonna argue with the science, but I'm

03:11:16 --> 03:11:18

sure there will be a correlation between

03:11:18 --> 03:11:19

the eating disorders

03:11:20 --> 03:11:23

and the girls or whoever the children's exposure

03:11:23 --> 03:11:26

to certain social media and their peers. Because

03:11:26 --> 03:11:28

we know when they get to the to

03:11:28 --> 03:11:29

the teenage years, it's

03:11:30 --> 03:11:32

it's it's the it's the peer group and

03:11:32 --> 03:11:35

social media that shapes them. Right? It's very

03:11:35 --> 03:11:37

important. Of it is is is taken from

03:11:37 --> 03:11:39

parents because they're hardly paying attention to us

03:11:39 --> 03:11:42

most of the time anyway. But anyway, with

03:11:42 --> 03:11:44

be that as it may, it's something to

03:11:44 --> 03:11:46

pay attention to and be aware of in

03:11:46 --> 03:11:48

the sense that we, sisters, and I I

03:11:48 --> 03:11:49

feel that this is something that we can

03:11:49 --> 03:11:50

benefit from.

03:11:51 --> 03:11:52

If you are going to

03:11:53 --> 03:11:55

take a decision to go on a health

03:11:55 --> 03:11:58

journey, whether it's weight loss, whether it's becoming

03:11:58 --> 03:12:01

fit, becoming strong, whatever the case may be,

03:12:01 --> 03:12:04

be aware as brother Nasir was saying of

03:12:04 --> 03:12:05

your thinking about it,

03:12:06 --> 03:12:06

your intention

03:12:07 --> 03:12:09

with it, and how you are modeling it

03:12:09 --> 03:12:11

because your children will pick up on that.

03:12:11 --> 03:12:14

Right? So if you're, like, eating healthily, but

03:12:14 --> 03:12:16

you can't stand it. Right? And they can

03:12:16 --> 03:12:18

see that you hate the fact that you're

03:12:18 --> 03:12:20

doing this. Right? And it's that I have

03:12:20 --> 03:12:23

to energy. For sure, they're gonna make unhealthy

03:12:23 --> 03:12:26

association between what you're doing and them. Supernova

03:12:26 --> 03:12:28

has ordered donner and chips. His donner and

03:12:28 --> 03:12:30

chips is here. He says good night to

03:12:30 --> 03:12:31

everybody.

03:12:32 --> 03:12:33

So that was helpful.

03:12:33 --> 03:12:36

But, but, you know, so so but but

03:12:36 --> 03:12:38

but again, going back to the personal accountability,

03:12:39 --> 03:12:40

for sure,

03:12:40 --> 03:12:42

we certainly on this channel,

03:12:42 --> 03:12:44

this is a big deal for us

03:12:45 --> 03:12:47

is us being empowered

03:12:47 --> 03:12:48

to take responsibility

03:12:49 --> 03:12:50

for ourselves,

03:12:50 --> 03:12:53

to be accountable for our own actions, for

03:12:53 --> 03:12:55

our attitude, for our thinking

03:12:56 --> 03:12:57

so that we can

03:12:58 --> 03:13:00

show up differently so that we can make

03:13:00 --> 03:13:00

better choices.

03:13:01 --> 03:13:03

And and, you know, the fact that since

03:13:03 --> 03:13:05

you mentioned that this is not your problem,

03:13:05 --> 03:13:08

you've not had, you know, struggles with weight,

03:13:08 --> 03:13:10

etcetera. And I find it

03:13:10 --> 03:13:12

kind of ironic because I I noticed that

03:13:12 --> 03:13:13

a lot

03:13:13 --> 03:13:16

is people who don't have the issue, right,

03:13:16 --> 03:13:18

that we're talking about. You see what I

03:13:18 --> 03:13:19

was saying about how there is like, a

03:13:19 --> 03:13:22

rule, and then people want to give pushback

03:13:22 --> 03:13:24

against the rule, the standard and say, yes,

03:13:24 --> 03:13:26

but it doesn't apply to everyone. What about

03:13:26 --> 03:13:28

these people? What about those people? I find

03:13:28 --> 03:13:29

that the people who are pushing for an

03:13:29 --> 03:13:31

exception to the rule or to bend the

03:13:31 --> 03:13:33

rule, they don't even need to break the

03:13:33 --> 03:13:35

rule. Like, they're not the ones with thyroid

03:13:35 --> 03:13:38

issues. They're not the ones with with eating

03:13:38 --> 03:13:41

disorders. It's it they're speaking on behalf of,

03:13:41 --> 03:13:43

in their mind, those with thyroid issues and

03:13:43 --> 03:13:46

those with eating disorders, but using someone else's

03:13:46 --> 03:13:47

example

03:13:47 --> 03:13:49

in order to make the rule something that

03:13:49 --> 03:13:51

is not applicable and then it's like I

03:13:51 --> 03:13:53

said, I feel it just muddies the waters,

03:13:53 --> 03:13:55

right? It just muddies the waters. But anyway,

03:13:55 --> 03:13:57

that's my personal opinion

03:13:57 --> 03:13:59

and everybody is free to disagree.

03:14:00 --> 03:14:01

But, sister, I think we'd have to wrap

03:14:01 --> 03:14:02

it up.

03:14:02 --> 03:14:04

Thank you so much,

03:14:05 --> 03:14:08

And for popping on, for sharing that.

03:14:09 --> 03:14:09

It's

03:14:11 --> 03:14:13

just a little bit more. Did we get

03:14:13 --> 03:14:14

an answer to

03:14:14 --> 03:14:15

what

03:14:15 --> 03:14:17

is the way for a husband to

03:14:18 --> 03:14:19

respond Be honest.

03:14:20 --> 03:14:22

To encourage a wife? Sorry, sis. Go ahead.

03:14:23 --> 03:14:23

Be honest

03:14:24 --> 03:14:24

upfront.

03:14:25 --> 03:14:28

No, sis. No. No. No. No. No. No.

03:14:28 --> 03:14:30

No. That was not the final answer.

03:14:31 --> 03:14:32

No. The final answer was no. The final

03:14:32 --> 03:14:35

answer was we he had to say it.

03:14:36 --> 03:14:38

Okay. So no hinting?

03:14:38 --> 03:14:40

No hinting. No. Say it. Tell me.

03:14:41 --> 03:14:43

The This is Joanne. You said Yeah. Be

03:14:43 --> 03:14:46

upfront and honest. Yeah. Yeah. I'm sorry. In

03:14:46 --> 03:14:48

the comments, we've had people saying it's better

03:14:48 --> 03:14:50

if he sends her to the spa,

03:14:51 --> 03:14:53

sends her to the salon, says he'll look

03:14:53 --> 03:14:54

after the kids, sends her off to the

03:14:54 --> 03:14:57

gym, buys her some new clothes. If I

03:14:57 --> 03:15:00

remember, buy her some makeup. Okay. These were

03:15:00 --> 03:15:03

these were some of the, some of the

03:15:03 --> 03:15:04

suggestions. But,

03:15:05 --> 03:15:07

it was so fun having you. You must

03:15:07 --> 03:15:07

come again.

03:15:09 --> 03:15:11

Oh, oh, so sorry. I cut the sister

03:15:11 --> 03:15:12

off. My

03:15:12 --> 03:15:13

so sorry about that.

03:15:14 --> 03:15:17

My my my only my only concern with

03:15:17 --> 03:15:18

that, although I I I think there was

03:15:18 --> 03:15:20

some good points brought up, my only concern

03:15:20 --> 03:15:21

with that is,

03:15:22 --> 03:15:23

a wife can understandably

03:15:24 --> 03:15:26

interpret that a different way.

03:15:27 --> 03:15:29

Right? So he he got me a spa

03:15:30 --> 03:15:30

day,

03:15:33 --> 03:15:35

and he said he's gonna watch the kids

03:15:35 --> 03:15:36

while I go to the spa.

03:15:37 --> 03:15:40

That can be interpreted as he realizes how

03:15:40 --> 03:15:42

much I I work at the home and

03:15:42 --> 03:15:45

with the kids and I need a break.

03:15:46 --> 03:15:48

Right? That could be some of that was

03:15:48 --> 03:15:50

some of the wording as well. Like, you

03:15:50 --> 03:15:51

you look like you've been you need a

03:15:51 --> 03:15:53

break. You know, you've been doing so much

03:15:53 --> 03:15:55

for the family. Go and take care of

03:15:55 --> 03:15:58

yourself. So that was a suggestion. But that

03:15:58 --> 03:16:01

doesn't that does that's different than saying,

03:16:02 --> 03:16:04

I love you, but you need to lose

03:16:04 --> 03:16:04

some weight.

03:16:06 --> 03:16:10

Right? Yes. Those those are 2 separate things.

03:16:10 --> 03:16:12

She may not make the connection that he

03:16:12 --> 03:16:14

wants to give me a spa day because

03:16:14 --> 03:16:16

he wants me also to walk a few

03:16:16 --> 03:16:18

laps around the mall before I go into

03:16:18 --> 03:16:19

the spa

03:16:20 --> 03:16:23

or that I need to do that. Yeah.

03:16:23 --> 03:16:26

Well, Bibi and her husband are brutally honest.

03:16:26 --> 03:16:28

She asks him how she looks, and she

03:16:28 --> 03:16:30

expects him to be honest. And she says,

03:16:30 --> 03:16:31

my husband and I do health and body

03:16:31 --> 03:16:33

checks together with each other all the time.

03:16:33 --> 03:16:36

We are each other's mirrors. Okay. Brother Talha

03:16:36 --> 03:16:38

says, say it upfront to her, but it's

03:16:38 --> 03:16:40

not for his ego, but for the pleasure

03:16:40 --> 03:16:42

of Allah, for the pleasure of God.

03:16:42 --> 03:16:45

Exactly. Just be upfront and tell her the

03:16:45 --> 03:16:46

truth, but politely.

03:16:47 --> 03:16:49

And brother Youssef says, this is the reason

03:16:49 --> 03:16:51

why the white lie is allowed in Islam

03:16:51 --> 03:16:53

brothers You don't have to be honest all

03:16:53 --> 03:16:54

the time

03:16:54 --> 03:16:58

then Tranquility says us women cannot demand that

03:16:58 --> 03:17:01

men communicate like women that's going too far

03:17:01 --> 03:17:03

Rahma and Hikma, but be honest.

03:17:03 --> 03:17:06

And Bibi says as a woman, we need

03:17:06 --> 03:17:08

to understand that our men are visual creatures.

03:17:08 --> 03:17:08

Oh,

03:17:09 --> 03:17:10

I love it.

03:17:12 --> 03:17:15

This is great. Okay. Yeah.

03:17:15 --> 03:17:17

It's done well. We need to I think

03:17:17 --> 03:17:19

we need to come back, though, maybe next

03:17:19 --> 03:17:19

week,

03:17:20 --> 03:17:21

and we need to really

03:17:22 --> 03:17:24

revisit this polygyny conversation,

03:17:25 --> 03:17:27

because I I think we didn't

03:17:27 --> 03:17:29

finish it. Yeah. We

03:17:30 --> 03:17:31

stopped. Yeah. Went on a

03:17:32 --> 03:17:33

a a different

03:17:35 --> 03:17:36

needed tangent.

03:17:36 --> 03:17:39

Mhmm. But I think it's important conversation for

03:17:39 --> 03:17:42

us to have because, again, I think,

03:17:44 --> 03:17:46

you know, I had a conversation with some

03:17:46 --> 03:17:47

young brothers

03:17:49 --> 03:17:51

this week, and

03:17:51 --> 03:17:54

they are of the mindset that one wife

03:17:54 --> 03:17:55

is better than more.

03:17:56 --> 03:17:59

And my pushback to them was

03:18:01 --> 03:18:03

within the Muslim community, we can't afford to

03:18:03 --> 03:18:04

have that mindset.

03:18:06 --> 03:18:06

Oh,

03:18:07 --> 03:18:09

okay. Okay. Okay. Let's pause it right there

03:18:10 --> 03:18:12

because that can be our segue into next

03:18:12 --> 03:18:13

week.

03:18:14 --> 03:18:15

Can we afford

03:18:16 --> 03:18:17

monogamy

03:18:17 --> 03:18:18

in the Muslim community?

03:18:20 --> 03:18:22

Is it still an option? Should it be

03:18:22 --> 03:18:24

an option? Should polygamy be the default? Let's

03:18:24 --> 03:18:27

see. Let's see. Let's see. Kuda the tyrant

03:18:27 --> 03:18:30

wants delusional single women to stop complaining about

03:18:30 --> 03:18:32

polygamy. And he's been saying that for the

03:18:32 --> 03:18:33

whole week. So I,

03:18:34 --> 03:18:36

he's been commenting that all week. So I

03:18:36 --> 03:18:37

had to put that there inshallah.

03:18:38 --> 03:18:41

But, yes, guys. So next Thursday, candid conversations.

03:18:42 --> 03:18:44

Let's talk about polygyny, guys. Alright?

03:18:44 --> 03:18:46

I like that questioning, though.

03:18:47 --> 03:18:49

I I think that should be the question

03:18:49 --> 03:18:52

for our show next week. Right? Everybody send

03:18:52 --> 03:18:53

it out to your friends.

03:18:54 --> 03:18:54

Chime

03:18:55 --> 03:18:57

in. Can the Ooma, can we as a

03:18:57 --> 03:18:58

Ooma afford,

03:18:59 --> 03:18:59

Manabe?

03:19:00 --> 03:19:02

I'm gonna put a poll up guys on

03:19:02 --> 03:19:03

the channel

03:19:03 --> 03:19:04

to say,

03:19:05 --> 03:19:06

to say to ask

03:19:07 --> 03:19:10

all the unmarried sisters in my community.

03:19:10 --> 03:19:12

Right? Y'all have to answer. Okay? This is

03:19:12 --> 03:19:15

gonna be a question for all the unmarried

03:19:15 --> 03:19:15

sisters

03:19:16 --> 03:19:17

in the community

03:19:18 --> 03:19:20

and you need to answer these questions about

03:19:20 --> 03:19:21

polygyny polygamy,

03:19:21 --> 03:19:23

right? And so look out for the post

03:19:23 --> 03:19:26

in my, in my community tab. We wanna

03:19:26 --> 03:19:28

take a poll from you guys and see

03:19:28 --> 03:19:29

what your thoughts are InshaAllah.

03:19:30 --> 03:19:32

I've got some questions that are brewing. So

03:19:32 --> 03:19:34

I'm gonna put those out

03:19:35 --> 03:19:37

because there's lots of opinions on this issue.

03:19:37 --> 03:19:39

So we're definitely gonna unpack it. We'll do

03:19:39 --> 03:19:41

a call in as well. Let's have some

03:19:41 --> 03:19:43

brothers on next week as well like we

03:19:43 --> 03:19:44

did the week before.

03:19:45 --> 03:19:47

And, yeah, let's let's let's turn it up.

03:19:48 --> 03:19:50

Peria says no. This is her sister, I

03:19:50 --> 03:19:52

think. Say it straight up. No salon. No

03:19:52 --> 03:19:54

go to the spa while I take care

03:19:54 --> 03:19:56

of the kids. Some of us won't get

03:19:56 --> 03:19:58

the connection. And if you're slow like me,

03:19:58 --> 03:20:00

you'll think he's just being extra nice.

03:20:01 --> 03:20:02

Exactly. See? That's what

03:20:03 --> 03:20:04

I don't know.

03:20:05 --> 03:20:08

Subha Allahu. Okay. So, Halas, we, we we

03:20:08 --> 03:20:10

we did some good work today, guys, and

03:20:10 --> 03:20:11

I think we had a good time about

03:20:11 --> 03:20:13

it as well. So with that, I think

03:20:13 --> 03:20:15

we're going to bid you good night.

03:20:17 --> 03:20:19

We'll see you next week.

03:20:19 --> 03:20:22

Next Thursday, candid conversations, same bat time, same

03:20:22 --> 03:20:24

bat channel. And don't forget to join for

03:20:24 --> 03:20:27

Wednesday's livestream. We are going to be talking

03:20:28 --> 03:20:29

about * and Muslim women

03:20:30 --> 03:20:32

dealing with the addicts and with the addictions.

03:20:32 --> 03:20:35

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Nasir, let's do a temperature check. Okay? How

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many subscribers do you have right now? Do

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you know? Because we need to see that

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in the 2 100. I think I am

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going to check now. I think it's 200

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something.

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If you guys have already subscribed to brother

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Nasiv, can you please put

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Oh,

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319.

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390. So we wanna get it to 500.

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Alright? So that's the next goal, guys. 500.

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If you've already subscribed to subscribed to brother

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Let me quickly grab the link so that

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I can put it in the chat now

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if you haven't subscribed,

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because there's content on there that he puts

03:21:45 --> 03:21:46

on there that is not here.

03:21:47 --> 03:21:49

So you'll wanna make sure that you catch

03:21:49 --> 03:21:50

that Insha'Allah,

03:21:51 --> 03:21:54

especially if you like his straight talking style

03:21:55 --> 03:21:55

and the,

03:21:56 --> 03:21:56

the uncomfortables.

03:21:57 --> 03:21:59

Tell them can you tell the the viewers

03:21:59 --> 03:22:00

what they can expect expect on your channel,

03:22:00 --> 03:22:02

Charlotte? Because I know that it's still evolving

03:22:02 --> 03:22:04

and growing and inshallah, it's gonna blow up,

03:22:04 --> 03:22:06

but what what should they expect on your

03:22:06 --> 03:22:07

channel?

03:22:08 --> 03:22:11

Yeah. So expect expect some of the uncomfortable

03:22:11 --> 03:22:14

truths that I share here, but, also, my

03:22:14 --> 03:22:17

training is in counseling and social work.

03:22:18 --> 03:22:20

And my work that I do is with

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Muslim brothers and sisters,

03:22:22 --> 03:22:26

and coaching in terms of their emotional regulation

03:22:26 --> 03:22:27

and their marriages.

03:22:28 --> 03:22:30

So that's what I do, and that's the

03:22:30 --> 03:22:31

work that I share online

03:22:32 --> 03:22:35

on IG under my name, Nasir Al Amin,

03:22:35 --> 03:22:36

as well as on YouTube.

03:22:36 --> 03:22:37

The IG,

03:22:38 --> 03:22:40

has more of my content, but I'm gradually

03:22:40 --> 03:22:43

putting that on the u on YouTube as

03:22:43 --> 03:22:43

well.

03:22:44 --> 03:22:46

So that's what you'll find. You'll find,

03:22:47 --> 03:22:48

perspectives

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from the modality that I use, CBT,

03:22:52 --> 03:22:54

and how that relates to,

03:22:55 --> 03:22:57

the brothers and sisters that I I work

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with. And, sisters, I would say

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that you will find content

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that is,

03:23:05 --> 03:23:08

geared towards you because the majority of my

03:23:08 --> 03:23:10

client base are Muslim women.

03:23:11 --> 03:23:12

So you will find,

03:23:13 --> 03:23:15

information that's relative to you.

03:23:16 --> 03:23:18

Thank you very much. By the use of

03:23:18 --> 03:23:20

jacala pay, guys, there were no super chats

03:23:20 --> 03:23:22

today. I'm sad. And as I learn it,

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no super chats, no super thanks, no nothing.

03:23:26 --> 03:23:27

Is is that what we're doing now? Yeah.

03:23:27 --> 03:23:29

We come out here, look after you guys

03:23:29 --> 03:23:32

for 3 and a half hours. Y'all can't

03:23:32 --> 03:23:34

even buy us a coffee. Really? Is that

03:23:34 --> 03:23:37

how we're doing? Okay. Alright. I'm gonna remember

03:23:37 --> 03:23:40

that. Okay. I am going to remember that.

03:23:40 --> 03:23:42

And, next time, if you guys want me

03:23:42 --> 03:23:43

to do any accents

03:23:44 --> 03:23:45

or you want me to throw down any

03:23:45 --> 03:23:47

of that London talk, I'm only going to

03:23:47 --> 03:23:49

do it when there's a super chat or

03:23:49 --> 03:23:51

a super thanks involved. How's that? Yes? So

03:23:51 --> 03:23:54

one one thing. I I I'm glad that

03:23:54 --> 03:23:56

you mentioned here the buy me a coffee

03:23:56 --> 03:23:59

for you and I. I appreciate that. But

03:24:01 --> 03:24:03

just for clarity, since we're at the end

03:24:03 --> 03:24:03

of the show,

03:24:05 --> 03:24:07

what is nose out of joint?

03:24:10 --> 03:24:11

What is that?

03:24:11 --> 03:24:13

You said this. Is this a a a

03:24:13 --> 03:24:16

a UK thing? It's a UK thing. Yes.

03:24:16 --> 03:24:18

It's in the UK thing, and it just

03:24:18 --> 03:24:20

means, like, being upset by something. Being put

03:24:20 --> 03:24:21

out.

03:24:22 --> 03:24:25

Out meaning put off. No. No. Put out

03:24:25 --> 03:24:25

is,

03:24:26 --> 03:24:27

is, yeah, being annoyed.

03:24:28 --> 03:24:30

Your nose out of joint is annoyed, offended,

03:24:31 --> 03:24:33

that kind of thing, that kind of energy.

03:24:35 --> 03:24:36

Okay. Who said this? You

03:24:37 --> 03:24:39

said it. You would when we were talking.

03:24:39 --> 03:24:41

Yeah. No. No. Earlier it's early. I made

03:24:41 --> 03:24:42

note of it because I I never heard

03:24:42 --> 03:24:45

it before. Nose out of joint.

03:24:45 --> 03:24:46

Yeah.

03:24:47 --> 03:24:49

Nose out of joint is, annoyed.

03:24:50 --> 03:24:51

Alright, guys. Woof.

03:24:52 --> 03:24:54

We will, Inshallah, next week, have a very

03:24:54 --> 03:24:56

special announcement for you guys as well, won't

03:24:56 --> 03:24:57

we? Mhmm.

03:24:57 --> 03:25:00

Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. So you guys gotta tune

03:25:00 --> 03:25:02

in. There's a lot going on next week.

03:25:02 --> 03:25:04

Yes. Yes. Definitely. We'll see you guys the

03:25:04 --> 03:25:05

evening,

03:25:06 --> 03:25:08

And, Peria says, is our presence not enough?

03:25:09 --> 03:25:09

Girl.

03:25:10 --> 03:25:10

Girl.

03:25:12 --> 03:25:14

You know that we love you and we

03:25:14 --> 03:25:16

appreciate all of you and

03:25:16 --> 03:25:19

I say this every week, but it's worth

03:25:19 --> 03:25:19

saying again.

03:25:20 --> 03:25:21

This is the best

03:25:22 --> 03:25:25

live chat on YouTube. Sorry to say. Right?

03:25:25 --> 03:25:27

I have been on live streams in the

03:25:27 --> 03:25:29

Muslim community. Put it in the chat in

03:25:29 --> 03:25:31

the comments, guys, if you agree that this

03:25:31 --> 03:25:33

is the best live chat,

03:25:34 --> 03:25:35

like, the the best

03:25:36 --> 03:25:37

chat in live stream

03:25:38 --> 03:25:39

on the on the YouTube for the Muslims

03:25:39 --> 03:25:41

at the moment. I'm sorry. I've been on

03:25:41 --> 03:25:42

other people's livestreams.

03:25:43 --> 03:25:45

I know how crazy the chat can get.

03:25:45 --> 03:25:46

I know how

03:25:47 --> 03:25:50

off topic the chat can be. I know

03:25:50 --> 03:25:52

how toxic the chat can be sometimes.

03:25:52 --> 03:25:55

I know how people can stop fighting and

03:25:55 --> 03:25:57

getting crazy in the chat, not paying any

03:25:57 --> 03:26:00

attention to what's actually happening on the screen.

03:26:01 --> 03:26:01

Our livestream

03:26:02 --> 03:26:02

chats

03:26:03 --> 03:26:05

are beautiful on this channel.

03:26:08 --> 03:26:11

And it is a testimony to you guys

03:26:11 --> 03:26:12

and your sincerity

03:26:13 --> 03:26:15

and your intentions and your the caliber of

03:26:15 --> 03:26:18

people that come to this stream. So I

03:26:18 --> 03:26:20

appreciate you guys. We don't need moderators.

03:26:21 --> 03:26:23

We don't need people going crazy and like

03:26:23 --> 03:26:26

banning people and everything. It's beautiful. And that's

03:26:26 --> 03:26:28

because of you guys. So hats off to

03:26:28 --> 03:26:30

you. That's why we will do it. We

03:26:30 --> 03:26:32

will continue to do it for free. But

03:26:32 --> 03:26:34

if you want the accents, you ask to

03:26:34 --> 03:26:35

pray for that.

03:26:35 --> 03:26:36

Okay.

03:26:40 --> 03:26:42

Awesome. Thank you, sister c man, for the

03:26:42 --> 03:26:44

200 k e s supercharge.

03:26:45 --> 03:26:45

It's okay.

03:26:47 --> 03:26:49

So what's the accent? What's do I have

03:26:49 --> 03:26:50

to do an accent now?

03:26:52 --> 03:26:54

What's it gonna be? You can you can

03:26:54 --> 03:26:56

request anything, and I'll try my best.

03:26:57 --> 03:26:58

Yes. It's good when we can be productive

03:26:58 --> 03:27:00

and share best practices. So, Siman,

03:27:00 --> 03:27:03

you can ask for the closing address in

03:27:03 --> 03:27:05

the accent that you want. Inshallah, I will

03:27:05 --> 03:27:06

do that for you, and I will try

03:27:06 --> 03:27:08

my best. So please, sister Seaman, since you

03:27:08 --> 03:27:10

gave the super chat, you get to say

03:27:10 --> 03:27:12

what accent I use to close off the

03:27:12 --> 03:27:15

show. Please just let me know in the

03:27:15 --> 03:27:16

chat so we can close off the show

03:27:16 --> 03:27:17

Insha'Allah.

03:27:17 --> 03:27:20

And if sister Seaman doesn't wanna give it,

03:27:20 --> 03:27:23

Leila says Nigerian. So, Seaman, if you want

03:27:23 --> 03:27:25

me to do something other than Nigerian, you

03:27:25 --> 03:27:26

need to speak now or forever hold your

03:27:26 --> 03:27:27

peace. Okay?

03:27:28 --> 03:27:29

Counting down in 5,

03:27:30 --> 03:27:30

4.

03:27:31 --> 03:27:33

I didn't know about this accident thing that

03:27:33 --> 03:27:33

you do.

03:27:35 --> 03:27:35

32

03:27:37 --> 03:27:40

1. Oh, so we're ending it now. Sir,

03:27:40 --> 03:27:42

thank you so much. You have all been

03:27:42 --> 03:27:44

so good. We have had the most

03:27:45 --> 03:27:46

wonderful time.

03:27:47 --> 03:27:49

Thank you, hon. We will see you next

03:27:49 --> 03:27:51

weekend. Don't miss it. We are going to

03:27:51 --> 03:27:55

be here next Wednesday at next Thursday. So

03:27:55 --> 03:27:57

we'll see you there at 9 o'clock UK

03:27:57 --> 03:27:59

time for now.

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