Naima B. Robert – Children’s Book Workshop

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The speakers discuss the importance of diversity within the industry and the need for representation in children's literature. They emphasize the need for diversity within the publishing industry and offer advice on writing for children. The speakers also discuss the importance of writing for children in the face of global challenges and the importance of writing for children in the context of the global challenges. They provide examples of how writing for children is a combination of both fiction and non busier writing, and emphasize the importance of knowing one's unique perspective and learning from them in creating a sense of rhythm in writing. They also provide tips for writing a story and recommend attending a master class for children with a history of writing poorly at the start.

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			And then we're gonna record it as well,
		
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			so there'll be a replay for those who
		
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			were not able to attend.
		
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			So just bear with me. Just give me
		
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			a couple of minutes, guys. Looks like we're
		
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			in.
		
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			Fantastic. Right, guys. We are live in Zoom,
		
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			and we are live on YouTube. And we
		
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			will probably go live elsewhere as well. But
		
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			for now, I just wanna say a big
		
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			welcome to everyone.
		
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			We're gonna record this.
		
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			Hi, guys.
		
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			So, guys, welcome to
		
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			the children's book workshop. I am super, super
		
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			excited to be sharing this with you because,
		
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			hey,
		
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			it's a it's a workshop that I've done
		
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			many times before.
		
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			I enjoy doing it so much because I
		
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			actually love children's books.
		
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			Children's books gave me my first
		
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			taste really of writing and of being published.
		
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			So I have such a special place in
		
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			my heart for children's books you would you
		
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			would not believe. So I just wanna take
		
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			a moment to just thank every single one
		
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			of you who is here, who's watching this,
		
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			either live or on the replay because I
		
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			know that you have so many demands on
		
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			your time. And I know it's a Thursday
		
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			night or whatever night it is for you
		
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			when you watch this. And I know we're
		
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			all busy. Right? But I want to thank
		
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			you for making the time to be here,
		
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			and I want to commend you
		
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			for taking out this amount of time
		
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			to focus on your dream,
		
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			to invest in your dream. Because
		
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			I have a hunch that the reason you
		
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			are here in this master class, in this
		
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			workshop,
		
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			is because you have a dream
		
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			of writing for children.
		
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			And that just makes me so happy
		
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			because it's so doable. And that's why, you
		
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			know, if you signed up for this workshop,
		
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			then you will know that
		
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			the whole point of this workshop is to
		
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			show you
		
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			how you can take your
		
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			experiences,
		
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			passions, and expertise
		
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			and write a really compelling of these 4
		
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			children's book. Right? So with no more ado,
		
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			I wanna welcome everybody.
		
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			You know, kick your feet up. You know,
		
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			get your water.
		
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			Get ready to take some notes. Okay? Because
		
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			today, what we're going to be doing is
		
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			looking at,
		
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			a,
		
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			why now is the best time for you
		
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			to write your children's book? Alright? I'm gonna
		
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			share with you how to turn those experiences,
		
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			passions,
		
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			and your expertise into a book for children.
		
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			I'm gonna show you how that you can
		
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			create engageable
		
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			engaging, relatable, and authentic
		
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			children's stories.
		
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			And I'm gonna share with you the habits,
		
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			tips, and techniques that I share with my
		
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			clients that get them fantastic results. So if
		
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			you are down for that, give me a
		
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			comment. Give me a yes in the comments.
		
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			Give me a yes in the chat. I
		
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			want to see you engaging.
		
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			I will be throughout this workshop asking you
		
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			to respond. I will be asking questions. It's
		
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			not a monologue. It's a dialogue, and this
		
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			is an interactive space. So fire up that
		
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			chat. Fire up that comment section. I want
		
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			to see you guys paying attention and here
		
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			with me. Okay? Yes. I'm seeing lots of
		
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			yeses coming through. So that's fantastic.
		
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			Alright. Before we get started,
		
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			I need to introduce myself in case you
		
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			don't know me.
		
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			My name is Naima b Robert, and I'm
		
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			an award winning best selling author of books
		
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			for children, teens, and adults.
		
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			Some of you may be familiar with some
		
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			of my books. Today, I'm not doing the
		
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			slides thing. I actually want to teach, like,
		
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			live.
		
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			So
		
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			you're gonna see everything with my lovely light.
		
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			But some of you may be familiar with
		
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			this book maybe. If you are, then just
		
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			comment in the chat if you've got this
		
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			in your home library
		
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			or if you've read this book to your
		
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			children or if indeed you were read this
		
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			book when you were younger. Ramadan Moon is
		
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			just one of them. I've got another one
		
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			here that I've put to the side going
		
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			to Mecca.
		
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			And these books are very much,
		
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			a part of
		
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			how I made my mark
		
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			in the children's book space. Because the reason
		
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			I started writing for children was
		
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			that my son, my eldest, and I, we
		
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			would go to the library every single week,
		
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			and I would take out, you know, copious
		
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			amounts of books, like 15 books at a
		
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			time.
		
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			But and and I love them, and I
		
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			still love them to this day. But what
		
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			I noticed when I was going to the
		
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			library is that they were so there were
		
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			no books
		
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			about
		
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			Muslims or about Islam, certainly not at the
		
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			level
		
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			of the other books. They were nowhere near
		
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			as interesting, nowhere near as beautiful.
		
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			They just didn't have the emotive quality. They
		
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			didn't they weren't compelling.
		
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			And I and I was concerned about that
		
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			because I wanted my children to be able
		
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			to see themselves
		
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			in the books that they were reading.
		
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			And that's really the reason I started writing
		
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			children's stories because I wanted my children to
		
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			have access
		
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			to beautiful poignant stories, you know, well told
		
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			stories, well told prose,
		
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			you know, that kind of
		
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			reflected
		
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			their reality.
		
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			Alhamdulillah, I was very, very fortunate because I
		
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			got a publishing deal very, very quickly.
		
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			And I was able to, my first book
		
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			was called The Swirling Hijab.
		
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			And from there, I went on to write
		
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			so many other books, you know, on different
		
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			topics. But I would say my niche is
		
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			probably
		
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			multicultural children's books.
		
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			Certainly, that's what my my name is recognized
		
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			in conjunction with multicultural children's books. And this
		
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			was kind of before the days of diversity
		
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			and representation, etcetera. So I was kind of
		
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			one of the front runners, But that's really
		
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			how front runners. But that's really how I
		
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			got into this space. And I'll tell you
		
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			now,
		
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			right in those early days, I didn't know
		
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			any children's book authors. I had never
		
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			thought about this as something that could be
		
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			done.
		
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			And I I wasn't sure, you know, which
		
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			way to go or kind of how to
		
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			get started, but the good thing was that
		
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			the Internet was already a thing. So I
		
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			actually spend a lot of time
		
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			reading and learning and kind of studying
		
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			from people who were teaching
		
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			the craft of writing for children, the business
		
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			of writing for children. So I remember spending
		
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			like a good year to 2 years when
		
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			I didn't really get any manuscripts published because
		
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			they weren't good enough, frankly, but I was
		
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			learning. You know? I was learning.
		
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			I was studying the craft. I was studying
		
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			the professional, studying the industry, and I was
		
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			learning. So by the time,
		
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			I I got into a groove and I
		
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			was actually writing, you know, fairly
		
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			fairly good manuscript and I was, you know,
		
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			in touch with a few publishers that liked
		
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			my work, I I I understood the industry.
		
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			Right? So when I come to you and
		
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			I'm talking to you about children's books, trust
		
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			me, I've been in this space since
		
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			2000.
		
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			Yeah. So that's fairly long time, over 20
		
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			years.
		
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			So because I've been in this space for
		
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			about 20 years,
		
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			I can tell you now that
		
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			this is one of the best times
		
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			ever
		
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			to be a Muslima writer.
		
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			Okay? Because we are now in a space
		
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			where
		
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			the need for diverse voices
		
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			is widely accepted.
		
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			The need for diversity within the publishing industry
		
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			is widely accepted.
		
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			The need for for, you know, representation
		
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			in children's literature,
		
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			again, widely accepted.
		
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			Publishers are actively
		
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			looking for authors outside of their usual,
		
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			actively looking for stories that reflect minority perspectives,
		
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			actively looking to support
		
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			own voices,
		
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			pouring money into it, setting up competition. Some
		
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			of them even setting up separate imprints especially
		
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			for those voices.
		
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			Not only is mainstream publishing
		
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			open to, you know, much wider variety of
		
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			voices than it was before,
		
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			But the Muslim publishing industry has grown exponentially
		
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			as well. So not only do you have,
		
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			you know,
		
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			children's books being produced by Muslims and and
		
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			published by Muslims at a rate that they
		
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			were never
		
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			20 years ago, you have more publishers doing
		
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			it. They are putting more money into it,
		
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			more care into it, and you've got
		
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			the established
		
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			Islamic publishing houses doing it as well as
		
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			so many independent publishers who are also in
		
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			the space of children's books. And the great
		
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			thing about, you know, children's books is that
		
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			very, very often,
		
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			your market is a lot broader than you
		
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			think. This is something I always tell my
		
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			clients. You know, you may think to yourself,
		
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			okay. If you're in the UK, you think
		
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			Cube. Okay. Cube is the only one. If
		
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			I don't get accepted by Cube, like, what's
		
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			gonna happen? But trust me, sis.
		
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			Indonesia
		
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			and Malaysia,
		
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			their economies
		
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			in terms of sort of Muslim books, Islamic
		
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			books,
		
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			far bigger than anything the UK or the
		
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			US or Canada could even hope to offer.
		
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			So I always talk to my clients about
		
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			making sure that when they do get to
		
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			the stage where they're looking for a publisher,
		
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			that they cast their net really wide and
		
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			try to at least make contact with those
		
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			publishers that are in the Middle East, in
		
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			the far east, you know, in in Nigeria,
		
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			for example. Huge markets of Muslims there. So
		
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			anyway
		
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			so basically,
		
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			this is the best time
		
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			to be a Muslim writer, somebody who would
		
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			like to write books that are somehow in
		
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			keeping or in line with her faith or
		
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			with her culture and her own background. Right?
		
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			Now
		
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			just a caveat.
		
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			This is okay. Firstly,
		
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			if y'all understand what I'm saying, if you're
		
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			picking up what I'm putting down, please give
		
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			me a yes
		
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			in the comments. Give me a yes in
		
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			the chat. Okay? This is a very important
		
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			point because many people
		
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			ask themselves the question,
		
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			well, why would anybody want to hear my
		
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			story?
		
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			Right? Why would anybody want to hear a
		
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			story about my family? You know? We're a
		
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			minority. We're this. We're that. We're this. And
		
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			I'm here to tell you that there are
		
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			a lot of people now who want to
		
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			hear those stories. They know that we need
		
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			to hear those stories, and they are paying
		
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			attention, okay, in a way that they were
		
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			not 10 years ago, in a way that
		
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			they were not 20 years ago. So
		
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			now is the time, ladies. This is what
		
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			I'm saying. K?
		
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			So with that being said,
		
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			let's just talk about the role of your
		
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			your religion and your culture in your writing.
		
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			Okay?
		
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			So I like to kind
		
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			of give books like a grading, if you
		
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			like, when it comes to Islamic content. Okay?
		
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			Because as you guys know, in the world
		
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			of children's books and just in general in
		
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			the world of books, we have fiction and
		
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			we have nonfiction.
		
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			Fiction being make made up stories. Okay? And
		
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			nonfiction being fact. Okay? Being not made up.
		
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			Alright?
		
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			Now even within fiction and nonfiction,
		
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			there are levels of
		
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			Islam
		
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			inside
		
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			both of those areas. Okay? So let me
		
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			explain what I mean. So Islamic nonfiction,
		
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			which is like the highest level,
		
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			would be
		
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			anything that is taken directly from the sources
		
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			and made applicable to children.
		
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			So in this, you'll find, like, books of
		
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			Dua, for example. Okay? Books of tafsir of
		
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			Quran,
		
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			books of ahadith.
		
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			Okay?
		
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			Stories of the prophets.
		
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			This is like top tier Islamic nonfiction.
		
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			Yeah. Give me a thumbs up if that
		
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			makes sense. Top tier Islamic nonfiction
		
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			is
		
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			taking directly from the sources. Right? And typically,
		
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			the goal of
		
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			those books is didactic. Okay? It's to teach.
		
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			It's to nurture. It's to inspire kind of
		
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			curiosity and love in the child. Alright? Top
		
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			tier Islamic nonfiction.
		
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			Now
		
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			when it comes to fiction,
		
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			you will find that the top tier Islamic
		
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			fiction
		
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			is a story.
		
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			It's a story. Right? But it's a story
		
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			that's built around Islamic principles.
		
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			Somebody said that they were reading the book,
		
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			the 2 my 2 angels. Okay? My 2
		
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			angels, perfect example of that. Ramadan moon, perfect
		
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			example of that. Going to Mecca, perfect example
		
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			of that. Okay? It's a story, but it's
		
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			a story that is built around Islamic principles.
		
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			It's actually built
		
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			in order to teach an Islamic
		
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			principle, to share an Islamic idea, whatever the
		
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			case may be. Again, its primary motive is
		
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			didactic. So top tier Islamic nonfiction
		
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			to teach. Top tier Islamic fiction also to
		
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			teach. Now,
		
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			of course, not every book is Islamic
		
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			in the sense that it's there to teach.
		
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			Sometimes it can be there simply to give
		
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			information. Okay? Simply to, to present facts. So
		
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			I would say 2nd tier is not is
		
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			like Muslim nonfiction. I'm not gonna use the
		
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			word Islamic anymore. I'm gonna say Muslim nonfiction.
		
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			This is where, for example,
		
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			a book like Ramadan Around the World.
		
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			Ramadan Around the World is nonfiction. I hope
		
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			you guys are familiar with that. I'm afraid
		
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			I don't have a picture of it. But
		
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			Ramadan around the world is a nonfiction
		
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			children's book that explores
		
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			the rituals and traditions and cultures
		
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			of Muslims celebrating Ramadan around the world. Okay?
		
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			It's there. It's it's a fun it's a
		
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			beautifully illustrated book.
		
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			It's a lot of fun, lots to see
		
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			in it, you know, lots of things to
		
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			notice.
		
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			It's very diverse. It really shows the diversity
		
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			of the ummah.
		
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			And it really is like a feel good
		
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			book. And it has layers of geography and
		
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			and and and history and culture, and you
		
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			notice that people's different clothes and the way
		
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			that they eat and all those kinds of
		
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			things. So it's much more almost anthropological in
		
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			a way than Islamic. Right? Because it's not
		
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			really teaching a particular message, but it still
		
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			has a grounding within the Muslim tradition.
		
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			So that's that's the 2nd tier
		
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			Muslim nonfiction.
		
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			Okay?
		
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			2nd tier Muslim fiction
		
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			is where the characters are Muslim.
		
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			Okay? The characters are in a Muslim context,
		
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			but the story itself
		
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			is not teaching
		
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			Islamic principles
		
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			per se. Alright? This is very, very, very
		
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			common where you find that it's more on
		
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			the diversity
		
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			side of the spectrum. So a lot of
		
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			the Muslim authors that you see being published
		
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			by mainstream publishers,
		
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			they write 2nd tier Muslim non Muslim fiction
		
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			or Muslim nonfiction. Right? A book like Muslim
		
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			Girls Rise. Okay? Or,
		
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			you know, a 1000 and 1 Islamic Inventions.
		
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			Those are all second tier. Okay? Because their
		
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			primary aim is not dawah. It's not it's
		
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			not teaching Islam.
		
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			It's telling people about the context. It's exploring
		
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			the ideas. It's exploring the context
		
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			without an aim to teach.
		
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			Similarly, with stories where the may the characters
		
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			are Muslim,
		
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			but they are not there to kind of
		
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			teach or to preach a particular message. They
		
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			are there. Maybe their Islam is something that
		
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			is simply a part of their identity. It
		
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			could be part of their cultural backdrop. Maybe
		
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			the story is simply about a little boy
		
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			who goes to school.
		
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			He happens to be called Ahmed. His mom
		
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			happens to wear a scarf. Okay?
		
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			Now I know that I've said a lot.
		
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			So please, could you just give me a
		
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			yes if you understand
		
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			the difference between, a, fiction and nonfiction,
		
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			and, b,
		
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			the 2 tiers that I've mentioned, like the
		
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			two levels, the top tier, like, you know,
		
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			top 1st tier, 2nd tier. Okay?
		
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			The reason I'm saying these is because I
		
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			want you to know
		
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			the the the the breadth
		
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			of options that you have. Okay? Obviously,
		
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			those fiction and nonfiction and the two tiers,
		
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			they have different audiences.
		
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			Right? And different publishers
		
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			gravitate towards
		
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			different,
		
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			you know, the different sections. So as I
		
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			said, mainstream publishers in general, they're gonna go
		
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			for 2nd tier.
		
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			Why do they go for 2nd tier? Because
		
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			their main market is not Muslims. Okay? It's
		
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			not Muslims who want to learn about Islam.
		
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			Their main market will
		
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			probably be schools and libraries and then the
		
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			Muslim population. And then, you know, parents who
		
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			want to expose their children to other cultures
		
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			and kind of give them a more multicultural
		
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			library,
		
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			that's their market.
		
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			So if you have a story that is
		
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			universal in its appeal, but you want to
		
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			kind of ground it in a Muslim family
		
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			or a Muslim character, then you're probably going
		
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			to go to a mainstream publisher with that
		
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			type of title because that's the kind of
		
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			thing that sells well for them. That's the
		
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			kind of thing that they like and it
		
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			makes sense.
		
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			If your book, the one that you're gonna
		
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			tell me about,
		
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			is
		
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			is more didactic, it's more to teach an
		
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			Islamic principle,
		
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			then you'll find that the ready market for
		
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			those books and those stories is the Muslim
		
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			market. It's the Islamic market. So you're more
		
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			likely to go to an Islamic publisher, a
		
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			Muslim publisher, or simply self publish because that's
		
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			where you'll find your readers.
		
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			Alright?
		
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			Getting involved with a publisher and getting a
		
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			yes from a publisher is about 3 things
		
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			coming together.
		
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			1, the right book.
		
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			2, the right time.
		
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			And 3, the right publisher.
		
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			I know a lot of people feel like
		
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			if they get a a rejection from a
		
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			publisher, it means it's because their story wasn't
		
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			good enough. But a lot of the time
		
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			I mean, I'm not saying that I can't
		
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			say because I haven't seen it, but you
		
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			will find that if any one of those
		
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			three elements is out, you will not get
		
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			a yes. So it could be a fantastic
		
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			story,
		
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			beautiful story,
		
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			amazingly written, everything. But if this is not
		
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			the type of story that this publisher typically
		
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			publishes,
		
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			wrong publisher.
		
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			It could be a fantastic story. It could
		
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			be a right fit for the publisher, but
		
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			they could have already published a book similar
		
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			to that the year before. In which case,
		
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			it's the wrong time.
		
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			It could be a publisher that is so
		
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			open to the idea. It could be that
		
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			the right the time is now, but your
		
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			idea just doesn't click with them. Okay? Or
		
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			maybe it's just not well developed enough. Whatever
		
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			the case may be. Just know that reject
		
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			if you're going down the publishing route, rejection
		
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			is a normal part of the deal. I've
		
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			been rejected.
		
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			Every single author you can think of has
		
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			been rejected. I do believe that JK Rowling
		
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			received 27
		
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			rejections for Harry Potter,
		
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			with very, very, very scathing
		
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			remarks from the publishers and the editors who
		
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			thought that it was a load of garbage.
		
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			Well,
		
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			we all know how that turned out. Right?
		
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			So
		
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			okay.
		
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			So we've covered, you know, quite a bit,
		
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			but I wanted to give you a a
		
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			kind of a a piece of that just
		
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			so you understand.
		
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			There are so many options because not only
		
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			do you get to choose and we're going
		
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			to do this later on because I want
		
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			to do some actual workshopping with you. But
		
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			not only do you get to choose between
		
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			fiction and nonfiction, not only do you get
		
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			to choose sort of like, you know, whether
		
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			it's gonna be top tier, you know, 1st
		
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			tier or 2nd tier,
		
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			You also have the option of writing for
		
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			different age groups. And this makes a big
		
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			difference to your manuscript. It makes a big
		
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			difference to the story. Because if you're writing
		
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			a book for toddlers on Ramadan,
		
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			it's gonna look a particular way. Right? It's
		
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			gonna have a certain length.
		
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			The story is going to be you know,
		
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			in terms of simplicity, it's gonna look a
		
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			particular way. The language is going to be,
		
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			you know, quite specific.
		
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			You know, that the concept itself is going
		
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			to be geared towards that age group. Whereas
		
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			if you want to write a book about
		
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			Ramadan for middle grade readers, okay, so 9,
		
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			10, 11 year olds,
		
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			completely different ballgame.
		
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			Same topic,
		
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			different age group, completely different approach.
		
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			Similarly, even with picture books which are typically
		
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			3 to 6 year olds. Okay? Between a
		
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			picture book and an early chapter book, 7
		
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			to 11 year olds, completely different. Okay? Even
		
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			if the topic is the same. Even if
		
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			the storyline
		
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			is very similar,
		
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			a picture book only has a 1,000 words,
		
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			whereas a, you know, a a a an
		
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			early chapter book or early reader, for example,
		
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			can have, you know, 5, 10, 15, 20000
		
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			words.
		
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			So this is really, really important. This is
		
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			something I teach in the master class. So
		
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			if you didn't manage to grab the children's
		
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			book master class when you signed up for
		
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			this, make sure that you get it. I
		
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			will put a link in the description so
		
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			that you can just grab that at the
		
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			discount because the children's book masterclass literally walks
		
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			you through all of this. Okay?
		
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			So
		
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			what have we covered? Why now is the
		
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			best time?
		
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			We've talked about, you know, the the different
		
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			ways, you know, that you can approach writing
		
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			a story for children. And the thing is,
		
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			when I say about taking your experiences,
		
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			your passions, and your expertise,
		
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			and turning it into a book for children.
		
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			What I invite you all to do is
		
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			to really
		
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			think like a children's author.
		
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			Children's authors see ideas everywhere. Okay? I'm gonna
		
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			show you some examples of books based on
		
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			these different things. Some people think the only
		
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			way that they can write a children's book
		
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			is if they have an idea for a
		
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			story. For example, there's a character, something he
		
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			wants something, something happens, etcetera, etcetera, the beginning,
		
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			middle, and end. And and that's that's kind
		
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			of the extent of it. But actually writing
		
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			for children, especially successful children's books, there is
		
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			a formula to it. Okay? There is there
		
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			there are principles that underpin
		
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			successful children's stories. Okay?
		
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			And one of the the ways that I
		
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			teach that in the master class but what
		
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			I'd like to share with you is sort
		
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			of my experience of using, for example, experiences
		
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			to write children's books. So this book I
		
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			showed you earlier, right,
		
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			this way.
		
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			So going to Mecca,
		
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			this book
		
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			is a it's it's really a prose poem.
		
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			Okay?
		
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			And
		
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			it's there's no kind of story read it.
		
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			So, like, no main character.
		
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			There's no dialogue.
		
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			Okay? It doesn't have, like, a a mom
		
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			and a dad and a kid and that
		
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			kind of thing. It's actually a prose poem,
		
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			and
		
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			it was based on my Hajj experience. I
		
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			wrote it as a poem when I came
		
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			back from Hajj.
		
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			And
		
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			the way that it was written, I just
		
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			knew that it would work really well,
		
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			as a as a children's story. I'll I'll
		
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			read you parts of it, and let's see
		
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			what I mean.
		
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			Now if you have this book
		
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			and if you do take the master class,
		
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			I would like you to read this book
		
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			and see
		
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			how I've used the principles that I teach
		
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			you in the master class. Okay? So I'll
		
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			give you we'll just do a a short
		
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			excerpt. Okay? And I will show you what
		
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			I mean. So
		
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			come with the pilgrims as they set out
		
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			on a journey,
		
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			a journey of patience
		
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			to the city of Mecca.
		
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			Some call Hajj a journey of a lifetime.
		
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			Fly with the pilgrims
		
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			as they make their way there.
		
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			Dress with the pilgrim as he stands barefoot,
		
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			a sheet around his shoulders, another round his
		
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			waist.
		
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			Now he is the same as thousands of
		
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			others, no riches or status to tell them
		
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			apart.
		
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			Call with a pilgrim as she utters a
		
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			prayer
		
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			and says the words that will make her
		
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			draw near.
		
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			Here I am, oh my lord, here I
		
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			am.
		
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			And above and around her, thousands of others
		
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			are making the call exactly like her.
		
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			Now even as I'm reading this,
		
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			can you hear the cadence?
		
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			This is not a poem that rhymes, is
		
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			it? Who can hear the rhythm of the
		
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			words, the cadence, the way that the beat
		
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			drops?
		
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			If you can, say yes in the comments
		
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			or say beat in the comments or whatever.
		
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			But if you can pick out the rhythm,
		
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			I'm gonna tell you a little secret. It's
		
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			something I've never said to you. I haven't
		
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			really told anybody before.
		
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			When I read this,
		
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			I can hear very clearly
		
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			where I was inspired
		
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			to write this in this way. And there's
		
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			a book called Walk With A Wolf, and
		
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			it's it's part of a series by Walker,
		
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			I think it was, non creative nonfiction.
		
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			And the author, I think her name is
		
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			Karen Wallace, and she she wrote a book
		
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			about wolves. Okay? And it's like a day
		
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			in the life of a wolf just to
		
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			show, you know, how wolves live.
		
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			And the thing is that it's called walk
		
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			with a wolf,
		
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			and the way that it the the cadence,
		
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			the rhythm of it, I can hear it
		
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			coming through in this book. Okay?
		
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			And this is this is fun. This is
		
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			the result of
		
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			imbibing good children's literature. Alright? When you read
		
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			good children's stories
		
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			or children's stories that kind of touch you
		
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			and and and and and make an impact
		
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			on you, it comes through in your writing.
		
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			That's why one of the things that I
		
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			teach all my students and clients is, you
		
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			know, read what you want to write.
		
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			I'm dropping gems here today, guys. I hope
		
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			you're taking notes. Okay?
		
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			Read what you want to write because if
		
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			I hadn't read that book by Karen Wallace,
		
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			I wouldn't have been able to to do
		
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			this book. And so how it goes,
		
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			you can hear the repetition,
		
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			something I talk about in the master class.
		
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			Come with the pilgrims,
		
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			dress with the pilgrims,
		
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			cool with the pilgrim,
		
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			gaze with the pilgrim,
		
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			stand with the pilgrim,
		
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			reflect with the pilgrims,
		
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			walk with the pilgrims. You guys get the
		
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			gist. Okay? The point is
		
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			these are tips and tricks and tools that
		
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			you can use
		
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			to create a sense of rhythm in your
		
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			writing and a sense of of of
		
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			of being tied together,
		
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			and children just love that. Yeah. I mean,
		
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			I love it personally, and, and children love
		
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			it too. They they really do. So,
		
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			what was I saying?
		
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			So that was that's an example of a
		
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			children's book that came out of an experience.
		
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			Okay?
		
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			And
		
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			an example of a children's book that came
		
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			out of a passion
		
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			is actually one of my client's books,
		
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			and she
		
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			had an idea. She was very interested in
		
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			explaining to her child
		
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			about
		
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			birth and death and how Allah created us,
		
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			etcetera.
		
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			So she wrote this on her own, but
		
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			she came to a workshop with Zanubia Arsalan.
		
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			You may have seen her on on social
		
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			media.
		
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			But she was always has always been interested
		
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			in, like, the science of creation and things
		
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			like that. So when she was writing this
		
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			book, she went and she wrote about what
		
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			she was passionate about, what she wanted to
		
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			share with her children, you know, the kind
		
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			of things she wanted them to be interested
		
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			in, the kind of things she wanted to
		
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			be able to make accessible
		
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			for her own children. That's an example of
		
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			you taking your passion, your interests,
		
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			and shaping it into something that is now
		
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			relevant to
		
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			children. Similarly,
		
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			I worked with Mufti Menck on his first
		
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			children's book called Let It Go, and this
		
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			is it here. We've seen it. Oh, glad
		
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			I've seen it. There you go. Let it
		
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			go. And how I did that was I
		
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			just took if you know,
		
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			then you'll know that he has a passion
		
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			for helping people to cope,
		
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			right, with this world
		
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			and to stay grounded and stay connected to
		
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			the creator and just to be able to
		
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			get through stuff. Right? That's one of his
		
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			passions. And if you see on his social
		
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			media, that's pretty much
		
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			a lot of the time, that's what he's
		
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			talking about.
		
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			So I took his book, motivational moments, and
		
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			I went through it and I lifted
		
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			different concepts from his book. And from that,
		
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			we were able to shape a story. Okay?
		
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			Again, an example of taking somebody's passion and
		
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			turning it into, you know, a rather charming
		
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			story for children
		
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			down to passion. Okay? Again, to be honest,
		
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			the passion came first. The idea of teaching
		
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			children forgiveness came first, and then the story
		
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			came up afterwards. I had no idea
		
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			about the characters. I didn't even think it
		
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			was gonna be a story, actually. I thought
		
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			it was gonna be more like a prose
		
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			poem, a bit more like Ramadan Luke, but
		
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			this is what came out of it.
		
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			So, you know,
		
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			I'm not I'm not mad.
		
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			So passion.
		
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			Now expertise.
		
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			Expertise
		
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			can be something that, you know, you have
		
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			studied,
		
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			you work in right now. Okay? Something that
		
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			you have deep knowledge of. And you can
		
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			take your expertise, whatever it is that you
		
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			know,
		
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			and put it into story form, put it
		
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			into prose form so that it becomes something
		
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			that children can consume, that children can relate
		
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			to. Okay?
		
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			So don't ever think that, you you know,
		
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			writing for children has to look one way.
		
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			You know? Another example, actually, I'm do I
		
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			have it here? I thought I had it.
		
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			Yes. Yes. So my good friend, Fatima,
		
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			she is a study she's a student. She's
		
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			in Alema. Right? And so she had always
		
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			had a passion,
		
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			and also to her field of study. Okay?
		
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			Sira. Right? She's always had a passion for
		
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			sira, Islamic history, and also she's studying that
		
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			at the moment. And so when she decided
		
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			to write this book, Khadija, which is not
		
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			a children it's not a picture book. It's
		
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			actually a, you know, middle grade novel.
		
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			But she was able to harness
		
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			her passions and her expertise and use them
		
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			to create something really, really special for children.
		
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			Let me know in the comments
		
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			if that makes sense.
		
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			And then I would like to see what
		
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			ideas
		
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			you have come with today.
		
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			Do you have any story ideas? Do you
		
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			have anything that you've been thinking about to
		
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			say, it might be nice to write a
		
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			story about this or that. I wanna see
		
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			it in the comments. I wanna see it
		
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			in the chat. Let me know. I wanna
		
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			see what we're working with here.
		
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			Because one of the things that, you know,
		
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			is is really, really important to understand is
		
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			that, you know, we have this idea sometimes
		
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			that, oh, you know, there's already so many
		
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			books out there. Like, how can I come
		
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			with something new? Or, you know, so many
		
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			writers out there who are way better than
		
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			me. Like, what's the point of me writing
		
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			something? Or I wanna write a story about
		
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			Ramadan, but there's so many Ramadan books already.
		
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			But
		
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			if you see that there are lots of
		
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			books in Ramadan, and there are, there are
		
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			like a ton of books about Ramadan. But
		
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			you will see that for the most
		
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			part, every one of those books has a
		
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			different approach.
		
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			Because that's another thing that I teach you
		
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			in the master class is how to take
		
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			your own
		
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			unique
		
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			spin
		
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			on a topic.
		
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			Because every single one of you is unique,
		
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			Every single one of you has a unique
		
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			perspective and has lived a unique life. So
		
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			even if I tell all of you, every
		
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			single one of you, the story you're going
		
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			to write today is about aid,
		
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			trust and believe. Every one of you will
		
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			come up with a different concept for the
		
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			story.
		
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			Whether it's, you know, whether it's gonna be
		
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			fiction or nonfiction, whether you're gonna write it
		
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			for toddlers, you know, for as a picture
		
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			book, as an early years, as a middle
		
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			grade novel,
		
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			you'll all be different. Whether it's gonna be
		
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			top tier, sort of 1st tier, or second
		
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			tier. What the actual story is going to
		
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			be? Is it gonna be traditional story with
		
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			a beginning, middle, and end? Is it gonna
		
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			be a prose poem?
		
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			If it's a story, what's gonna happen in
		
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			the story? Every single one of you will
		
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			come up with something different. Right? So really
		
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			the key is knowing, okay.
		
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			I can approach a topic from any angle
		
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			that I like. But now how do I
		
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			take a topic
		
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			and actually turn that into a viable story
		
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			or into a viable prose poem or into
		
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			a viable something. Right? That's the stuff that
		
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			we teach in the master class. So it's
		
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			it's it's it's it's really important to know
		
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			that. So we've got some ideas here. We've
		
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			got a book for younger children about respect
		
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			and obedience, and I can guess what the
		
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			reason is. Something to do with one's own
		
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			child. Right. So now a story about respect
		
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			and obedience, I personally would go for, you
		
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			know, a story approach on that,
		
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			because you can you can kind of hide
		
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			the message a bit better if it's a
		
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			story. And when you're writing a story, this
		
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			is something I teach in the master class
		
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			as well.
		
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			You wanna make sure that the child is
		
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			the hero. Okay? A lot of Muslims when
		
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			they first send stories to me,
		
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			make the mistake
		
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			of casting the adult as the hero and
		
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			the problem solver.
		
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			So the child has a problem. And in
		
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			the story, the child goes to an adult
		
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			and the adult teaches the child everything that
		
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			the author, meaning the parent, wants the child
		
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			to know.
		
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			And
		
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			while it's a it was okay to do
		
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			that maybe 10, 20 years ago, because our
		
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			children are so used to reading stories from
		
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			the library, from school, etcetera,
		
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			They're used to the child being the center
		
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			of the story, being the protagonist. Okay? So
		
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			the conventional way and the the way that
		
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			certainly publishers expect you to approach
		
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			it is that the child
		
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			must have a journey. The child must go
		
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			on a journey within the story. The child
		
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			must do the growing.
		
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			If possible, the child should find the solution,
		
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			find the answer. Even if they are guided
		
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			by a parent or they're kind of given
		
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			some kind of advice, etcetera, by an adult
		
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			or, you know, an authority figure.
		
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			We want the children who are reading to
		
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			go on the journey with the child. Right?
		
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			So that child, that protagonist, who's the main
		
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			character,
		
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			that main character has be the one. If
		
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			it's if it's a story about the child,
		
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			of course, you know, if you're writing about,
		
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			you know, the prophets, etcetera, then there is
		
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			no protagonist, but that's a different type of
		
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			story. Right? So if you're going to write
		
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			a story for younger children about respect and
		
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			obedience, think of how can I
		
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			how can I frame a story around this
		
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			concept?
		
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			How can I
		
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			teach my child
		
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			through a story
		
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			showing and not telling?
		
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			Very important principle in writing, showing and not
		
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			telling. Okay. So,
		
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			we also have an idea for a du'a
		
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			book for 4 year olds.
		
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			Yes.
		
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			Amazing idea. Again, this is our Islamic nonfiction.
		
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			Okay? Top tier. Or it could be a
		
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			an Islamic fiction top tier where the story
		
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			is there
		
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			to teach the duas. Right? Great idea,
		
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			I love that.
		
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			We also have another idea of a mommy
		
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			and son driving to school during rush hour
		
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			and discussing why he hasn't lost his tooth
		
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			yet. Oh, I love that.
		
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			I wonder what the answer will be. Fantastic.
		
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			Would either like to write top tier nonfiction
		
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			or fiction type books. I write poems, so
		
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			would like to use those within a book.
		
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			Fantastic.
		
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			Again,
		
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			you know, poems can work really, really well,
		
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			you know, as children's books. Obviously, it depends
		
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			on the topic,
		
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			which needs to be something that's of interest
		
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			to children. Right?
		
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			So,
		
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			one of my favorite quotes is,
		
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			one of the attendees says, we only have
		
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			a pixel and God has the entire picture.
		
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			I love it so much. I want to
		
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			write a children's book on this concept. That's
		
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			a fantastic image,
		
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			and a fantastic concept.
		
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			So, yeah, these are some great ideas. So
		
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			really what you guys need to be doing
		
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			is thinking, okay. So I have a topic
		
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			idea. They're all very, very different as you
		
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			can see.
		
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			Now I need to start asking myself those
		
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			questions.
		
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			Which age group is it for? Is it
		
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			gonna be fiction or nonfiction? And then is
		
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			it gonna be a story, a conventional story,
		
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			or is it gonna be more an explorative
		
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			poem kind of thing? And then writing that
		
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			first draft, you know, and and sort of
		
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			imbibing from other children's books to see what
		
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			you like and what you don't like and
		
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			sort of building up your arsenal,
		
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			okay,
		
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			of being able to to actually express for
		
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			children.
		
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			We have another idea here about writing about
		
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			Allah's names in the form of stories to
		
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			show what they really mean and how they
		
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			connect to our daily life. Fantastic. I love
		
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			that. I would see that slightly older than
		
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			picture book. I think that should be like
		
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			an early reader,
		
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			early chapter book potentially.
		
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			Or you could just take a few of
		
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			the names and create a picture book from
		
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			it. That would also work really well.
		
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			Okay. So
		
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			as you can see, lots of great ideas
		
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			here, wonderful,
		
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			you know,
		
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			new approaches
		
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			and new topics to kind of bring to
		
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			the the the libraries of Muslim children everywhere.
		
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			So with that being said,
		
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			I want to just give you guys a
		
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			few tips for your own personal writing. Okay?
		
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			As I said before, children's book writers should
		
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			always be on the on the lookout for
		
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			ideas.
		
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			You know? See the world through the eyes
		
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			of a child.
		
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			Allow yourself to be in awe,
		
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			and to to have that open nature of
		
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			children
		
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			when they see the world around them, that
		
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			curiosity,
		
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			it really, really helps to tap into the
		
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			inner child when you're writing for children. Even
		
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			though, of course, we know that we are
		
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			adults and we're probably writing it for our
		
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			own kids, but it really does help if
		
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			you're able to kind of tap into your
		
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			inner child and really,
		
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			yeah, express your story in a way that
		
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			you know would have delighted you as a
		
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			child. Okay?
		
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			The other thing that I ask of all
		
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			my clients and all my students is, you
		
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			know, write a story that means something.
		
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			Write a story that elicits some kind of
		
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			response.
		
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			Okay?
		
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			If you're going to go to publishers, we
		
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			need a book that's got some drama, that's
		
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			got a bit of risk, that's got a
		
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			little bit of a journey to it. Yeah.
		
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			I know I know a couple of independent
		
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			Muslim publishers, you know, personally who if you
		
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			send them this generic story of, you know,
		
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			a a child woke up, he did this
		
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			during the day, and he went to sleep,
		
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			No stakes. You know? It's it's not compelling
		
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			enough,
		
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			and they want to see more action. They
		
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			want to see more kind of what's gonna
		
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			happen. What's he gonna do? You know? Is
		
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			it gonna happen? And then the payoff. So
		
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			these are obviously things that, you know, you
		
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			need to learn, which is why you need
		
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			to get into that master class.
		
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			Right? And for those of you who did
		
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			not pick up the master class,
		
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			I will put the link in the description,
		
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			and I will put the link in the
		
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			chat because it is available at a discount,
		
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			and it's a fantastic offer at the moment.
		
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			And, you know,
		
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			it's doable.
		
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			It's doable,
		
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			especially your first draft. You know? Your first
		
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			draft and just to be bear in mind,
		
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			you know, I have, like, a whole book
		
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			of stories that I wrote when I first
		
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			started out, and they were terrible.
		
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			They were absolutely terrible.
		
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			I cringe when I read them now, but
		
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			that's okay
		
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			because that's part of the deal. Again, just
		
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			like rejection can be is part of the
		
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			deal,
		
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			writing badly at the start is also part
		
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			of the deal, and you should not be
		
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			afraid of it.
		
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			And you should not shy away from it,
		
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			and you should welcome criticism because that is
		
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			what's gonna help you to get better. That's
		
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			what's gonna help you to write better. That's
		
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			what's gonna help you to build up to
		
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			the stage where now you are writing, and
		
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			every time you write, it actually it comes
		
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			out comes out really well.
		
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			I have one of my clients,
		
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			who was who was with me. She did
		
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			the master class. She was in the incubator,
		
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			and we worked on a children's story about
		
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			her her her grand her grand her child
		
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			losing her grandfather.
		
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			And I just got the fantastic news that
		
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			she it's coming out, and it looks absolutely
		
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			gorgeous, and it was such a beautiful story.
		
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			The original story was wonderful. You know, the
		
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			edited version was even better, and it's out
		
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			now in the world. And this is somebody
		
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			who's never read written a book before. She
		
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			didn't studied creative writing at school, anything like
		
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			that. She literally just she took the master
		
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			class, and she worked with me and coach
		
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			Hind, and her books come out. Another lady
		
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			similarly went through the incubator. She literally just
		
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			sent me check my Instagram. You'll see it.
		
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			She literally just sent me a message saying
		
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			that she's been accepted. She's been granted publishing
		
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			deals from 2 publishers
		
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			for stories that she had developed with us.
		
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			So the stuff is happening. You know? It
		
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			works when you work it. So my advice
		
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			to all of you is if you didn't
		
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			grab the offer for the master class, grab
		
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			it now.
		
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			Get yourself in there. Watch the videos. Take
		
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			notes. Practice.
		
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			Write and write and write and write until
		
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			you come out with something that you're like,
		
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			you know what?
		
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			This is actually really good. Okay? Because just
		
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			like, you know, so many sisters before you
		
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			who've never written a book before, never ever
		
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			thought that they would be
		
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			an author,
		
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			they put in the work, they put in
		
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			the effort, and
		
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			the results are there. So I wanna thank
		
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			every single one of you for for being
		
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			with me tonight.
		
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			Before we leave this space,
		
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			I would like every one of you just
		
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			to get clarity on, you know, the story
		
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			idea that you have. And you've already mentioned
		
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			in the chat, but I just wanna make
		
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			sure that every one of you has an
		
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			idea about their story,
		
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			about whether it's gonna be fiction or nonfiction,
		
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			you know, whether it's gonna be the the
		
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			first level, second level,
		
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			with, you know, how you're going to explore
		
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			the story, what age group. Because these are
		
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			the questions that I get my clients to
		
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			ask. If you're already in the master class,
		
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			then you know it's the 5 w h,
		
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			right,
		
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			as as what we call it. But,
		
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			getting clear on those things will help you
		
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			because when you sit down to write, for
		
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			example, if you've chosen that it's going to
		
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			be a fiction, it's gonna be a story,
		
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			and it's gonna be a picture book, then
		
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			you know that you have a 1,000 words,
		
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			and that's it.
		
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			If you want to write a story and
		
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			you want it to be for 7 to
		
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			11 year olds, then you know a 1,000
		
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			words is not gonna cut it. And you
		
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			also know that a picture book is not
		
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			going to cut it because picture books end
		
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			at 6. And 7 to 11, now we're
		
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			getting into longer books, you know, mini chapter
		
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			books, early readers, that kind of thing. Right?
		
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			Middle grade fiction and all of that. So
		
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			you know now, okay. If I'm writing for
		
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			a, you know, an older age group, I
		
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			need a more involved story. I need a
		
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			more, you know, more sophisticated vocabulary. I need
		
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			characters that are more complex, etcetera, etcetera. But
		
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			I don't wanna preempt the master class because,
		
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			hey, I'm sure you're all gonna go and
		
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			get it and jump in there, and then
		
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			you will be able to have me on
		
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			a video teaching you all these things
		
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			in bite sized portions. Okay?
		
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			So
		
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			make sure that you've sat down and you've
		
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			done that.
		
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			In terms of the recording of this, those
		
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			of you who registered, you will get the
		
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			recording. It's also available to view on YouTube.
		
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			And any other questions that you have, you
		
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			can easily email me and, you know, ask
		
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			me anything that you want about the process
		
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			of writing for children.
		
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			If you are looking for an editor or
		
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			you want help with publishing or launching your
		
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			book, please just pop a message below in
		
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			the comments.
		
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			Send me an email. This is the work
		
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			that we do. We love supporting authors, and
		
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			we absolutely love to see our students and
		
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			our
		
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			clients going on and becoming award winners and
		
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			bestsellers,
		
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			which is amazingly what they are doing. K?
		
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			So guys, my job here listen. My time's
		
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			almost up. Okay? Because I've been in this
		
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			game for 20 years, and I'm about out.
		
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			Okay?
		
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			It's time to pass you the baton.
		
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			If you haven't done it yet, jump in.
		
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			Okay? If you haven't taken a class yet,
		
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			jump in. If you haven't taken a course
		
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			yet, jump in. If you haven't started writing
		
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			with writing prompts,
		
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			jump in. Now is the time for you
		
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			to start. If you have a dream of
		
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			writing for children, there is no better time.
		
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			So my advice to all of you is
		
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			that I'm passing you the baton. You can
		
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			say, yeah, I took a class with my
		
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			mother, and that's what made me start actually
		
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			writing and putting some some energy and some
		
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			effort into my writing. And then a year
		
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			later, here is my book, and I wanna
		
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			celebrate that with all of you. Okay?
		
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			So like I said, my email's there. Let
		
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			me know if you want to you need
		
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			any help in any area. I'll be more
		
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			than happy to help you. We're gonna wrap
		
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			this up now, and I'm gonna thank you
		
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			all for working with me. I will see
		
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			you
		
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			in the next workshop that we have and
		
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			hopefully,
		
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			in the master class itself. K? Take care,
		
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			everyone.