Muhammad ibn Adam al-Kawthari – Deep Insight of Imam Abu Hanifa & Why Some People Opposed Him

Muhammad ibn Adam al-Kawthari
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The conversation covers the history and cultural significance of the Hanifa culture, including its use of the Quran and Sunless dryers, the ADU of the Bible, and the use of various methods for teaching. The speakers emphasize the importance of avoiding confusion and not giving too many false assumptions about the beliefs of Imams. They also discuss the use of conservative language in media and the difficulty of understanding the meaning behind certain ideas. The transcript highlights the importance of avoiding misunderstandings and the need for people to act on the shelf or humanity.

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			Sheikh Mohammed
		
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			will be honored to have him as a guest for those who came late
		
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			May Allah reward him for making the effort to come and see us and he's he's not feeling well as
well. So mashallah, you know, he's honored us to make that film extra, he could have easily
canceled, you know, but he's come down to talk to us.
		
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			shares with us, Mohammed Masha Allah is one of the more known scholars in this country, I'm sure
most of you know about him.
		
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			He's written books, is he's lectured in many places.
		
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			And
		
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			in this time, and these times that we live in,
		
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			it's all the more important to have these type of scholars in our communities that we can refer back
to
		
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			where nowadays in these times we have you know, some people people giving all sorts of different
versions and interpretation of Islam. Some taking one extreme and some going to another extreme,
where we even find nowadays some scholars who are supposed to be
		
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			properly traditionally
		
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			trained, or even making statements about some of the the rulings that are in the Quran that these
rulings are not human applicable anymore, and things like that. So it's very important to have this
balanced tribe of people like Sheikh Muhammad, who are not to one extreme but also not to the other
extreme where we don't change our need. We don't compromise you know, we can't touch the Quran no
one no one can touch the Quran and what is written in the Quran and what can better in the Quran. So
these people are so vital for us Mashallah. And I think today is one of my favorite topics about our
show, Imam Abu Hanifa Allah
		
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			obviously doesn't need any introduction for wildlife over each other
		
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			Welcome to salatu salam ala Sayidina Muhammad Ibrahim
		
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			Vida calling interview
		
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			love them and follow them and follow them
		
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			or other than your
		
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			love of God
		
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			which
		
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			especially brothers and sisters, so don't worry
		
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			first of all
		
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			I would like to
		
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			call them out
		
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			first of all, I would like to
		
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			have been voting foundation
		
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			Doctor invited
		
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			him and all his associates for inviting me today
		
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			to be able to
		
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			participate in this placid gathering
		
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			halacha
		
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			how to come in together. Literally had a means to sit in a circle. There's a hadith of the Messenger
of Allah.
		
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			He said he forbade a dialogue cobbler Juma?
		
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			Look some people when they don't have a deep understanding and that's what we're talking about
today.
		
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			They interpreted this hadith to say that sitting in a gathering because
		
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			it's not allowed is forbidden.
		
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			Therefore, a lecture before Juma prayer is unlawful as per the Hadith of the messenger SallAllahu
sallam. He forbade halacha before genre
		
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			of Hanukkah in that hadith, if you look at the context refers to
		
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			he actually said to the Sahaba because what they would do is before the gym or whatever, they would
sit in small, small circles by people in a circle, right? You know, like when we're going to eat,
maybe that's small, small halacha
		
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			So there was sitting like that, and he said, Do not sit like that everybody sits in a line, then
straight line once in a second.
		
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			Anyway, linguistically Halaqaat means to sit in a circle, but metaphorically it means a gathering.
Today's topic is actually a very, very important topic.
		
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			A very
		
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			significant topic and much can be said about this topic. But I've actually chosen to talk about him
Abu Hanifa Rahim Allah who died on the ankle in a very specific way, and I will need your attention
in Sharla. will hear a lot about him over here about his biography, his Sierra, his biography, his
knowledge, his wisdom, His piety,
		
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			much is said much has been written books and books about emo honey.
		
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			I want to talk about him on a specific angle. And it's a specific way, a specific part of this grid
in one
		
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			home, majority of the owner follow.
		
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			The title we have is deep insight. That's the title today, deep insight of knowledge.
		
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			deep insight is a translation
		
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			of a word in Arabic, the football.
		
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			I'm sure many of you have heard of the word faith.
		
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			From the word faith is another word to have.
		
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			The means to understand deeply. As two words in Arabic fahan means to understand briefly, you
understand something that's fun to understand something deeply the whole context, the ins and outs.
		
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			What's before it was after it in a very deep sense, actually, linguistically, when the scholars
explained the word fit. They say it's like getting to the bottom of something, peeling the skin of a
fruit and getting to the root deep inside. That's what fechas de vaca is somebody who has this
ability, this is deep insight of matches.
		
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			But I will come to that. But before I mentioned that
		
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			many of you may have heard or you may have read in books that even today this happens, but
historically, there was
		
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			some sort of opposition to towards this great demand and opposition nobody's frequent opposition.
Okay, everybody, every people have disagreed and has proposed different Imams. mahadi If you look at
his great career demands, many of them were persecuted among the 100 of the Allahu Anhu those
whiplashes on him Imam Bukhari went through lots of trials and tribulations. So you have this
opposition.
		
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			You read in books, that people have opposed him on Hanifa some of them said he doesn't know Hadith
he does not have knowledge of Hadith. Or he follows his own opinion, as he gives preference to his
own personal judgments over sacred texts of the Quran and Sunnah. Lots has been said and written.
		
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			When we look at all of this,
		
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			as far as my understanding is concerned, which is from my teaching, of course, is that there are
basically three main reasons
		
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			you can conclude all this opposition, not so much not all this opposition, some opposition
		
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			into three main reasons
		
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			how many main reasons
		
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			reason number one,
		
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			why some people sort of opposed Imam Abu Hanifa in his time and slightly after him and even till
today, maybe these tendencies are found today.
		
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			One reason was many people when they opposed Imam Abu Hanifa. They opposed him initially because
they were unaware of the reality.
		
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			You know, when someone suddenly appears and he didn't suddenly appear, but somebody who has a
certain name,
		
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			somebody who is well respected, the whole world is flocking to him. The great imams are flocking to
him. People are spreading his teachings. This is the great Imam who has excelled he has come out
from Gouveia and there's 1000s of students. So initially people are taken aback
		
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			and when his teachings came out initially some people they you know when people are normally not
ready to accept what's new, something new comes up the first footwear will be is haram
		
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			you know a few years after
		
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			years ago, many years ago when the watch came out the first platform was that very good watch. And
		
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			then slowly, slowly, people got used to the hate here.
		
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			Anything new comes up. And this is also this is not really how it's supposed to be.
		
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			Anything new comes up, it's haram until it's proven. That's not how it's supposed to be the last of
Russia and Canada. The basis the original of Everything is permissible. And if it's proven to be
haram that is haram. But anyway, so when you mama Hanifa came with his teachings, his understanding
of the Quran and Sunnah. Remember, it's his understanding of the Quran and Sunnah it's not his
understanding of the Bible, or the Quran ng is he's explaining to the people his
		
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			understanding of the Quran and Sunnah, how he's deducing laws, how he's coming to conclusions, the
rules of prayer, the rules of fasting, the rules of Akkad, Hajj and many other issues. Some people
are taken aback. You know, because the way he interpreted the text of the Quran and Sunnah This is
the ruling. Wow, this is some genius guy. How did he come up straightaway? No, no, no, no, no, like,
this is looking a bit you know, odd.
		
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			So, initially, there was a bit of opposition, because people, they
		
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			misunderstood him. They did not want what reached them was other than the reality. People were not
living in the same city on time. We were not living in the time of emails and iPhones or media.
Someone's living living in Baghdad. Someone's Kufa someone is in Basra, someone is in Shamp.
		
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			And this, there are examples of some great Imams, they initially they oppose him. And when the
reality was
		
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			exposed to them or shown to them, they actually retracted from the opinion.
		
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			There was this great Imam called Imam I'd even hadn't
		
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			even heard him Imam it given already so you won't even know it. He has a book called alchemy, the
brava is a major scholar of Hadith.
		
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			Initially, when he heard about him, Abu Hanifa he opposed it. So who what are these teachings this
person has come out.
		
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			Later, he met the great Imam
		
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			of the Howey. The Allah who are one of the gems of the Hanafi school disguise, environmental Harris
guide is gritty one is such that he could have had a mud hub on its own.
		
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			Mount the house is one of them gems of his own money. Seriously, he's ambushed a lot of these people
to actually watch the hits, but out of respect, none other than I will use of them 100 They could
have had their own hubs, but out of respect of their teacher, they did not want to start their own
mothers.
		
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			That's how much knowledge many I'm gonna say that the normal use of specially had was on the part of
the Department of Hanifa knowledge.
		
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			So a moment to Javi when he met him and how he became a student of the moment. And then he started
realizing
		
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			and understanding the teachings of remarkable Hanifa he made Toba,
		
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			he retracted and then as a form of expiation of Farah, he gathered all the hadith of Imam Abu Hanifa
in a book Muslim that would be Khalifa.
		
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			He said this is my way of this is my way of repenting that I spent 1015 years opposing this crazy
month. This is actually Mambo Khalifa passed away, this is in the third century, second century.
		
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			He said as a way of repenting and exploiting, I want to gather all his Hadith and he wrote a book
gather all the hundreds of remarkable Hanifa and call it Muslim honey from this Imam ignore it
		
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			is another Imam Khalid Mohammed Jose.
		
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			Have you heard of him one way or the above? He was from Shan Shan, specifically in Beirut.
		
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			And it's still called Beirut in that time. He was called Beirut as well. The moment was very strong
Beirut, in Arabic was in Beirut in Lebanon. Some of you may have been there.
		
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			When I went there, I've been a few times before when I was studying in Syria at one time and some
time ago. And I seriously long, long, long time ago.
		
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			In 2002, I haven't been there since
		
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			when I was studying. I went I used to go quite a bit to big woods but a couple of years ago I went
to the charity to be able to be went to the place where in mammals it is varied and
		
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			there's a place that
		
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			the moment I was it was from the sham area.
		
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			He once met Abdullah Abdullah Hebrew Barak is a student of Imam Abu Hanifa.
		
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			The one on Barak went to Shang the magic moment of Ramana was already said to him
		
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			Madhava Rachel and motoric
		
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			and hardage Bill Cooper you can be a bit Khalifa who's this innovator who's come up with all these
new ways of teaching the Quran and Sunnah who has emerged in Kufa.
		
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			Abdullah in robotic said, I did not respond to him at that time. And just because sometimes you have
to use your brains when to, you know, sort of respond, you don't just suddenly get a reaction and
get angry about something. How do you know I just heard and then I left it in it. I went back to the
place where I was staying at.
		
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			And for three days I gather all the rulings that Imam Abu Hanifa Rahim Allah or the animal had
gathered, has extracted, deduce from the Quran sunnah, wrote him down in a small booklet
		
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			and before those rulings instead of saying all Abu Hanifa Abu Hanifa said I wrote color and not
color not mine a blue tab it
		
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			not might have been tab it says if someone says does this, this this and this is the ruling is from
the Hadith from the Quran, sunnah from the Quran. So I gathered a lot of this and three days, after
three days, I went back to one of my team and had these peoples he asked me what are these peoples I
gave it to him there was a lot of time so he put it a good me these two earliest colleges to have,
you know, big, wide sleeves. So because he needs to keep money, papers and books and things like
that now we can keep them in our iPads.
		
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			So
		
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			after Salah he started reading he was intrigued and he kept reading he couldn't stop reading the way
that these rules were deduced from the Quran, sunnah.
		
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			And he said to me, Don Rock says he said to me,
		
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			these rules are amazing. Who is this not man didn't love it.
		
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			He said this is the same Abu Hanifa that us with three days ago that was his innovative was
commercially
		
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			interesting.
		
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			And then Barack said after a few months, Imam Abu Hanifa metamodel sorry, Mama was already
established himself and greet him. He met him. And I heard them discussing the same very issues and
Mr Rosario was even more intrigued. And when Imam Abu Hanifa left Abdullah Movado he's a student of
among Hanifa he said, I asked him when he was already paid for it. What do you what do you think of
it? He said I really envy them
		
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			to Roger Likud Nicotra T.
		
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			Because 30 lm ed will fully agree. I envy the man because of his excessive knowledge and because of
the abundance of intellect a stealth federal law, I seek the forgiveness of above. Look, I'm going
to fill one out in bar here how was it apparent mistake? Example stick to the man
		
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			in the who be finality Marbella money, because he is other than what had reached me before.
		
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			He made and this was the, you know, righteousness and piety and you know the loss of these people.
Today someone opposes and you find out the reality, like what would I tell my leads now? Like, I've
spent my whole 20 years building my reputation built on the opposition and suddenly the chakras you
know the guys okay, now, what's happened, though, we're gonna go there.
		
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			People their
		
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			opposition was sincere. When they saw the reality, no problem. Who cares? You know, it was for the
sake of Allah. Opposition was for the sake of Allah.
		
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			There are many examples like that. So that was reason number one, I don't want to go into too many
examples. But reason number one why some people disagreed or opposing them. And if it was, they did
not know the reality.
		
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			Second reason
		
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			is that like at all times, there's one own spiritual disease that is found in humans, human beings,
which has the disease of jealousy has it?
		
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			Most, if not all, great scholars of this home had to face jealousy at some part of their life.
		
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			Most if not all, Imam Al Bukhari, mobile Hanifa and nomadic everybody.
		
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			And sometimes it's sad to say that this jealousy is from other so called people within the field of
knowledge,
		
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			who have not reached the scale. That's why knowledge without this gear
		
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			does not benefit you fall into spiritual illnesses and diseases.
		
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			So this was the reason that some people were actually jealous and they started spreading rumors and
propaganda against him Abu Hanifa this man he gives preference to pay us and logic over Hadid, a law
clerk, you know, because he, he's becoming prominent 1000s of people are following him. Wherever
he's going, people are like this who this is an amazing individual.
		
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			By the way, he's understanding the Quran and Sunnah.
		
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			And there are exemplary stories for that as well. And so this was one of the secondaries and that's
why they say you know, there's
		
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			one of the Imams said remember who said this, that has said all Fatah Illa me Ana Lucia, who
		
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			has a dual Fatah elimina Rosaria, who got Dora in it has now he pulled on the verge here in the
meme. They, they were jealous of the young man, because they could not reach his level. Like the CO
wives of a beautiful woman, when they say to her face, your
		
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			you don't have comments.
		
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			This example probably doesn't apply me may apply
		
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			it we have sisters in the back pick up the camera it will have a golden emoji in the head, I mean,
		
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			it just gems. So this was a secondary. So moving on quickly. Third reason and this is what this talk
is supposed to be about.
		
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			I said all this can be concluded into three reasons. You remember the first reason misinformation,
number two jealousy. Third reason Subhanallah This is the main reason.
		
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			Third main reason is that
		
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			Imam Abu Hanifa, Allah subhanaw taala had given him such an amazing level of intellect, brain
		
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			that many people just could not understand it.
		
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			You know, when you don't understand somebody just, you know, just oppose them. And this happens in
this day and age as well. A
		
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			lot of times this happens that some people even Some so called scholars have people they just, you
know, they don't understand the knowledge and you know, the way someone is saying something, and my
limit or my brain or my intellectual limit is very simple. And that's deep. So no way saying stuff
that Allah this is blasphemy, etc, whatever, whatever. You haven't really understood what the man is
trying to say. It's too deep it it's too above and beyond your level.
		
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			This is what happened and seriously the aka of Imam Abu Hanifa Allah has blessed him with an unique
occult, even other scholars do not possess alcohol is where you have intimate knowledge is one thing
which is memorizing etc. But alcohol.
		
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			Lots of people just went above them what he was trying to say and how he deduced the loose and this
is what you call the deep insight. Someone who does not have deep insight will not understand the
deep insight, you know you have to be in the field. You have to be adopted to understand a doctor.
You have to be a facility to understand the FBI.
		
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			And this is the deep inside.
		
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			Which Imam Abu Hanifa Rahim Allah what are the animal had
		
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			this phone call this high level of
		
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			this high intellectual level
		
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			is
		
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			found or obtained or gained through two ways. One is its Wahhabi is from a lost part of data. So
you're just born with it or loved grants you it. We can make two out of course, but it's granted by
Allah.
		
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			It's not like forever not not everybody gets that instance Annamma It's a gift from Allah.
		
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			And number two, this is also acquired by staying for years in the company of somebody of faith and
		
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			knowledge is one thing you can memorize things you can learn you can learn this book and that book
on this book and that book. But the fact is, it's it's unique you can't even describe it. There's no
book to teach the football
		
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			there's no book to teach stuff. Of course,
		
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			there are situations the football basically means that you have the knowledge but how to apply it in
what context what to say when how every letter word judgments, rulings being balanced about issues.
This is impossible unless someone stays in the company of somebody of the football and see how they
deal with issues.
		
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			And this is why the Quran talks about the fact of not just knowledge Falola forum in called The
forgotten men who are referred to later for COVID de
		
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			that a group of people should stay back so that they seek deep understanding of knowledge, where you
will recover with origin within the unknown the other or the Hadith sahih al Bukhari may usually the
level be higher on your level 15 I said two weeks is granted by Allah Hadid says, who with whom
Allah intends good Allah gives them this deep understanding of religion. It's granted by Allah and
these are called
		
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			comes with do with piety excetera This was the third reason that people could not understand lots of
other Imams with all absolute ultimate due respect. And we're not even saying you know, I mean we
normally say Imam and no problem not so people have said this, but I just generally sometimes it's
just me personally, I sometimes tend to avoid using that, because we have Shafi and Maliki and you
know, we're looking at places different Imams and with respect to everybody, you know, if you just
keep on seeing your mom and dad and the greatest Imam, you know, only Allah knows who's the greatest
we know we think he's the greatest Imam Shafi followers think he's the greatest so no problem. So in
		
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			those kinds of you know, mix gatherings I just tend to avoid using that with absolute ultimate due
respect to a lot of these Imams.
		
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			But sometimes some of these Imams they could not even understand the imam or honey first
intellectual level and his stuff is just so deep. Some of the rulings that he came he arrived at
lots of people looked at the Quranic verse the Hadith, the text, and they you know came to
conclusion you are Hanifa had a different view sometimes it's like, if you look at it apparently
what's what's he saying here the Hadith says Is Buhari and Mo Hanafis completely contradicting it.
		
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			Now people today as well but superficial, aka superficial knowledge, superficial understanding,
		
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			will say, of course, you know, this handy thing and he's saying opposite of follow the Hadith.
		
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			But how did he Mumbo Hanifa get to that conclusion.
		
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			You have to study the whole case scenario is very deep. I'll give you one example of an island.
		
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			This is where you could have
		
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			this great deep understanding of religion, and lots of Imams actually testified.
		
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			There was one of the great Imams of that time he was he'd been Harun he said that a direct to
elephant ministry you
		
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			were cut up to Minho I came across 1000 shoe I wrote knowledge from them
		
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			for no budget to I did not find anybody
		
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			along with Ottawa I
		
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			mean cancer or were behind a volume Abu Hanifa I did not find anybody more knowledgeable. Three
qualities. These are three amazing qualities and you'll find these three qualities with love Hanifa
do not find anybody more knowledgeable, knowledgeable meaning he knows the knowledge. So that's
		
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			okay knows the Quran sunnah, that's knowledge.
		
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			And secondly, nobody more for tea. So knowledge is one thing. If you look at classically, they
always separate annual
		
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			knowledge is one thing and fit into formulas. The Insight is something else. Nobody will
knowledgeable, no, having no insight. And nobody more pious than five people. The leading one of
them is Abu Hanifa
		
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			Sofian authority,
		
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			also found in arena. He also said the same thing that there's nobody more affable, more virtuous,
more knowledgeable and more focused than Imam Abu Hanifa, trying to hold on to either one of the
lots of Imam. That's why Imam Shafi also said Nasser Al Khalifa in the whole of humanity, people are
indepted in devotee to Imam Abu Hanifa in his understanding,
		
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			the way he deduced and extracted loose from the Quran and Sunnah, using his upper and break. And
there's so many like, other just examples, like, you know, how he sort of, you know, there was one
incident that just comes to mind. And then I'll give you that one example, I will end but before
that one example, you know, those a man said to his wife, you know, sometimes you get these kind of
things, incidents, questions that come to people, you know, I don't know what some husbands are
thinking sometimes I don't know.
		
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			But he said to his wife, that if you are not the most beautiful woman on planet Earth, you are the
most
		
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			honestly, sometimes I have so many divorce related questions nearly every week, I get about six or
seven divorce related questions, and they're the most difficult ones. And the most funny ones as
well.
		
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			People say all sorts of this book is one man's that his wife, I give you $4,000,000,043 I said, Why
43
		
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			Why did you say that? What do you do with
		
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			this man said to his wife that I if you are not the most beautiful woman, then you are divorced now
as a tax statement.
		
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			The man got scared afterwards. Like, people don't think you know how to have that moment. They just
see it and then they start crying. Oh, no, no, that's good.
		
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			addition, this is 3.2. Now let's go to this Imam let me let me change my job now. Now let me just
follow him on and Matias opinion and one is three, one, okay?
		
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			If you already following it from before, fine, no problem. But you know once people start changing
these many whatever say that you're following your desires, it could be one day lead you to just
leave even Islam altogether because this tendency is about attendance. So anyway, this is what he
said. So he was he went to ask a lot of different demands
		
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			all the great Imams of the time.
		
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			The whole system
		
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			sorry.
		
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			Because if you see if you are the most if you are not the most beautiful woman decently well you
can't How can you be sure
		
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			you are not the most beautiful woman on earth.
		
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			So therefore, you know, it's this matter of Nikka Huntelaar marriage and divorce. You don't want to
live in a haram relationship.
		
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			Finally, someone said to him, Cosimo Hanifa. He heard his case, and he said, before I give you the
ruling, make Toba and don't ever say something like this and don't use the word.
		
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			Nice and it's okay, there's no divorce. Now go home and say sorry to your wife and stay on good
terms.
		
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			The reason is
		
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			the reason is that, sorry, I made a mistake. He didn't say if you are the most beautiful, he said,
If you are not more beautiful than the new, sorry, that was
		
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			said if you if you are not more beautiful than the womb, then you are the most. So remember how he
first said that don't worry, there's no divorce because your wife is more beautiful than the moon.
		
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			Because Allah says in the Quran, look at the color candle inside of the accelerator clean. You have
created the human being in the best of forms and modes, which is the best than any creation.
		
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			So based on this, there's not there's so many examples like that of Imam Abu Hanifa, where, you
know, lots of other people they sort of give a superficial applied Arab reply or ruling or judgment
and his deep insight his stuff or his faith, his understanding was just so amazing, so unique.
		
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			I'll give you one example of it and this is a deeper example of a fifth issue.
		
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			I mean, you will find this in many issues not when we studied sometimes you find in all these rules
of you know, the horror, Soraa, Soames Akkad, hijo, etc. Okay, well, youth, you will find sometimes
that Imam Abu Hanifa Rahim Allah Allah
		
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			the amazingly, the way he comes even even not just to do with, even before he was infected. I don't
wanna mention this story. But you probably know the story. You know, that incident, which happened
with atheist. Everybody, more or less knows that there was a debate with an atheist.
		
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			lets people know, just one minute, I'll shorten it because time, we don't have too much time. There
was an atheist, who denied Of course, Allah, that's why he's an atheist.
		
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			And there was a debate fixed whether this is before Imam Abu Hanifa went was in fact, initially he
started off his life with, you know, column, one column, talking about theology and philosophy and
column and debating Aqeedah matters. He actually said afterwards that
		
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			when I left that I felt better because there was no spirituality in there.
		
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			You know, he did he, he felt that when he went into Hadith, and then that was really where he felt
spirituality. But anyway, in the beginning of his time, he was
		
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			in the beginning years. So once there was a big debate, and there was a time this atheist said, you
know, I have all the proofs, I'm gonna deny God and you know, honey, for those of us arrange, fix
the panels fix, everybody was cold. It was a massive debate, because there's a lot of debates, he
actually said that I didn't see no benefit in debates. And I'll tell you one thing here I've heard,
and I've read many, many scholars, many, not just one who've spent their lives in debates, that
towards the end of their life, most of them regret, if not all of them. Many, even from the
subcontinent. And from the Arab world. I've read at least seven or eight different, and many of
		
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			them. There's one scholar who, in his 60s, he used to have all his talks based on polemical issues,
like every talk is about this group, or that group or this group or that group or this group, you
know, attacking every talk and lecture of us attacking different groups. Someone needs to do a
scholarly work, you do your scholarly work, you present your case and end of story move on, you
know, the great scholars, that's what they do. They tackle all these issues, but they do in a
scholarly way. The writer book, they finish the subject, they move on, and if there's a time for
that, or they give it that's it, but some people
		
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			their whole lives revolve around just polemical issues.
		
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			He came into the 60s. And then he just last 1015 years of his life, he passed away. He spent on desk
and spirituality and building, you know, people's email and all of that. And he said, Honestly, I
think I've wasted my 60 4050 years of my life, just dealing with these kinds of issues. There's no
benefit. Nobody's you know, because when you start arguing and debating debates, never do anything.
Never.
		
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			Debates never benefit, and they don't convince because people are already want to argue and fight
about it.
		
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			That's why you know, these debates, many of my teachers stay far away from debates. Why do you want
to debate on these issues, and there's no different benefit in debating. So Imago Hanifa, same
thing. In the beginning, he was used to debate and even with atheists, so he had this debate, he was
arranged fixed, lots of people came,
		
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			the time had come up on the day or this time, everybody had gathered atheist and all his crew,
everybody's there. In Abu Hanifa hasn't arrived yet his followers students are knocking on what's
happened, the Imam still not here. What's happened, what's happened? Those people started rejoicing,
yes. See, we've you know, we've won.
		
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			Just, you know, just, he just talks. That's it, you know, we're easy.
		
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			And then we're just about to go and, you know, claim victory. Suddenly, this sort of human
appearing. And
		
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			so
		
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			he came, the everybody sat down. So the atheist said to the tree mom, honey further, before we
start, look, you're late. Explain why you're late. Forget, you know, we'll talk about our discussion
about the existence of God. But why don't we come late?
		
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			You know, honey, from St. Actually, sorry, sorry, I'm really sorry. But what happened was, I was
coming. And then I had to walk on when I was walking, and if there was a river key,
		
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			you know, and there were no boats, I had to cross a small river to come here.
		
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			And suddenly, I was just waiting, waiting, and I got late. And then there was a tree next to the
river suddenly snapped, and the tree fell down. And the wood planks of the tree, suddenly, they all
started moving by themselves. And suddenly, like they all got together, and miraculously, they all
joined and became a boat. And you came next to me, I hopped into it. And then I just sat there, and
the boat by itself took me on the other side of the river, and across it, and I came rushing from
there and just comes on. Sorry, that's it. So they can start laughing What is pupils? What's wrong
with this guy? Have you ever this guy lost his brains or something? Have you seen anybody you know,
		
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			anybody just all falling down and this is just making it up? Can you do something about by itself?
		
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			You are behind if I said if a small boat can be made by itself, how come this whole existence and
creation come into existence by itself?
		
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			And the debate was one because even started. There's numerous examples like this. But in fact, if
you look at all these rules, I was saying this, that when we study the different issues of faith,
		
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			we see that sometimes because you know you find in different issues that Imam Shafi and Imam Malik
has on one side Imam Abu Hanifa Imam Muhammad has another opinion are these three two Imams here?
There are some cases where everybody has gone to one side, everybody has left Imam Abu Hanifa he is
alone a
		
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			lot of people feel intimidated or inferior this inferiority complex here that Shafi Malik humble and
Ozai and Sophia authority and everybody is hopping around here, all the humans, they've taken one
position, you might have Hanifa. No, seriously, I tell you, those are the time where Imam Abu Hanifa
is at the strongest position like it's very deep.
		
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			It's very solid.
		
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			Like you know, many issues like reciting behind Imam.
		
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			Now reciting behind Imani prayer, lots of others, a sort of Hadith. salata, Illa kita la sala to
develop your craft the first applicator, the one who does not recite Fatiha his surah is invalid.
Hadith of Bokhari Sahai brother Athena's, you know, translation
		
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			chapter this volume number this translation this narrated the one who does not recite Fatiha,
surprisingly, what is in Abu Hanifa say?
		
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			It's more clear to him to pray behind the Imam. What's going on Mr. Hanifa? Are Rasulullah
sallallahu alayhi wa sallam la serata Illa de 500 kitab calavo Hanifa you grow the Harryman is
McGruder Harryman who you follow the Prophet sallallahu alayhi salam we want, of course, of course
approximates but this sort of argument apparently makes sense to those people who whose intellectual
level is limited. You Abu Hanifa
		
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			He's tougher poor, he goes deep, he doesn't look at the fruit from the top, he pillars the skin, he
cuts it open, he goes take some microscope or whatever, and goes deep inside. And he sees those
atoms and those things with his Microsoft,
		
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			Mike, microscope, whatever. And he sees those atoms or those, you know, things that others don't
have that microscope.
		
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			He looks at the issue, and I don't have the time to go into it. This is a scholarly kind of
discussion. But
		
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			how he came to that
		
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			he has his own methodology that there are verses of the Quran which are cut B which are absolute.
And then Hadith are the only which are probably the verses of the Quran, there's no doubt.
Therefore, he gives preference to that over edits. Now there's verses of the Quran like Gwadar
courier Quran for STEMI, Hula, hula and
		
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			then Quran being recited. Remain, listen to it attentively. And if you can't listen to it, then
remain quiet. Even if even the Imam is praying silently. This is a Quranic verse. This is a this is
absolute. It's categorical. This is the main text. This is the main This is the boss text. The
hadith is horrible, right, which is dandy, which is probable. So you act upon the Hadith in light of
the boss, the main text, we don't act on the Hadith in a way that
		
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			undermines the verse of the Quran. The Quran is saying when the Quran is being recited, listen
attentively. So therefore, the Imam says that look, we we will make sure if you're if you're praying
in behind this is very in a simple way of explaining there's so much other things related to it. But
if you listen, if you if you are in surah and up the Imam is reciting, then you listen to it. And
the hadith is referring to when someone is praying on their own because you're not praying beyond
email. Then if you don't have resigned, certified to have your Salah is not done.
		
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			And then he has also had its other Hadith.
		
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			I will tell you one more example.
		
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			This is the main example and then at the end, there's a hadith in Chapter of business transactions.
		
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			The messenger sallallahu alayhi wa sallam said
		
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			and waterberry Ernie bill here Imara metaphora.
		
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			The two transacting people buyer and seller, they have an option not to meet the Farakka or Utara
they have the option to cancel the transaction or to choose it.
		
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			So famous Hadith say yes, like brothers, it's already saying it's absolutely rigorously
authenticated. sahih Hadith
		
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			like the last a lot
		
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			to say,
		
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			but then you might have you forgot to say as well from the Quran, you know somebody brings a hadith
		
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			Hanifa can bring the eye of the Quran. Hadith by the Quran is what's happening. Anyway, so this is
an absolutely authentic hadith
		
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			when you two are buying and selling, you have an option to cancel it you've sold something to him
and he's bought it. hadith is clearly saying killed. If you look at it, apparently
		
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			you have a option to cancel as long as you don't separate. So you've done the transaction you're
still here sitting now you're having coffee, tea, etc. Suddenly, you get a text and you look at your
phone and your wife says you're taking me out somewhere today you need to buy me this and I think
you Oh no, I have no money.
		
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			Okay, I don't want to I don't want to bite. Just got a text from the wife.
		
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			So you have a right to cancel it. Even though this guy made all the arrangements he's already told
his wife that's you know, I've already bought that item for me, you know, I've done the transaction
		
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			or they choose it like one of them says okay, chosen you as long as you don't separate.
		
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			Like if you separate you go outside then you can come back and say sorry, you know, I just got a
phone call. No, no, it's
		
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			this is the clear message of the Hadith. And this is the opinion of long shell for Eva Maria Imam
Achmed and everybody they see this is the ruling is based on a clear Hadith
		
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			he will hurry for the Allahu Anhu he says no.
		
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			Sorry.
		
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			When two people they conclude the sale you do the job and Kaboul you buy and sell you finish
		
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			no one party has a choice to cancel it you can't say sorry I've changed my mind. I don't want to buy
it anymore. You can't say sorry. I don't want to sell it give it back to me and says take your money
		
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			totally opposing like it's a clear and he completely opposing it.
		
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			Now how do you
		
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			You oppose it?
		
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			opposing it, it's not really opposing it you know we call it opposing it it's actually acting on the
Hadith with
		
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			it's not opposing it's actually acting on the Hadith with a deeper insight.
		
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			You Abu Hanifa said look, there's numerous texts of the Quran and Sunnah that point out to the right
of the buyer and the seller once it's done then this has to be taken very very seriously. Yeah, even
Adina Amano phobia occlude
		
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			Oh, you will believe when a transaction is done, you have to complete it. Like when it's done, you
have to let it you can't just if someone you know out of will say okay, please can you cancel it you
know, then that's fine. That's actually quite rewarding if someone you see that is but it's your
choice. The Quran also says here you have the denominator koulamallah combiner compatibility. He
learned Hakuna Tiara Toronto, or you believe don't consume work unlawfully unless it's a transaction
which is of which is with mutual consent. So if you've already done the transaction, now, it's
basically reversing it. You want to cancel it, but he doesn't want to it's no mutual consent going
		
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			against divers. There's approximately about eight to nine verses that he says it goes against
		
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			all of them.
		
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			That's number one.
		
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			Number two, this particular Hadith,
		
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			the two people transacting have a right to cancel as long as they don't separate. Imam Abu Hanifa
says You've misunderstood this hadith. The wording is a neuter by Ernie, the two transacting people,
it's actually the seller and the buyer. The basic translation apart translation would be the buyer
and the seller. If you look at the wording properly waterbar here are in another narration is ba yan
is the one who is in the process of buying. And the one in the process of selling. So the Hadith
means the two people in the process of selling and buying haven't concluded the sale yet. Have a
right. So you're still talking you're looking at iPhone? Yeah, it's good. Is it six iPhone five?
		
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			Does it sound good? Okay. Yeah. Okay. And you say, Yeah, I'm saying, and then finally,
		
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			we don't want to carry on with the conversation. So we're gonna have to wait, no problem.
		
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			You can do that.
		
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			You haven't concluded the job and Cabul yet. So the buyer and the seller in the process of buying
and selling, they have an option.
		
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			Here, as long as they don't separate, meaning as long as they don't separate from the wording will
occur. While
		
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			it is true that the follow up will have done the other humans as long as they don't physically
spirit separate. Imam Abu Hanifa say No, as long as they don't separate verbally, like, they don't
separate by saying Egypt don't like a boat of soul. And they don't separate from that.
		
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			And this is and this and then he brings many verses of the Quran again to show that this
		
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			man a metaphor Raka. When the tool is separate, there's many, many verses in the Quran. When this
word has been used, it's with separation with the tunnel, not physically.
		
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			There's no physical separation, it's talking about separation with words. Basically, they haven't
separated by saying, I've accepted of some geoboard and they haven't separated from and saved.
They're still talking.
		
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			And there's about another five verses which would show that the meaning of the forum in the Quran is
separating by words and not physically.
		
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			And this is just I'm giving you like a summary of this issues. Like there's about 1015 pages of this
issue. There's just an absolute summary what I'm remembering right now and probably forgot a lot
myself.
		
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			And just imagine this insight of Imam Abu Hanifa has really helped people today
		
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			to act upon the shelf or humanity hungry.
		
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			Right, in this day and age.
		
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			Imagine because these people, the other Imams, and they've actually then debated that what will
happen, what will happen, okay, people if they both physically there, but nowadays trade
		
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			is so different, like one person is on the other side of the world in Japan on the phone, and this
guy is in London
		
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			is another form. Okay, and they've completed the same
		
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			and then one of them says no, I don't want to carry on some Imams, some currently scholars, they
said from the Shafi Maliki's they said okay as long as the reformed receivers on you can you know
you can cancel it you've done the business transaction then you talking about you know everything
else you know, housewives etc. And before you put the phone down to Okay, by the way, I'm canceling
that this is okay. All right. What about if it's not phone calls? All right. If it's an email, like
you send an email, I'm sending you this otherwise Okay, accepted done. deal done everything done.
		
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			There's been cases
		
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			imagined
		
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			Do you do the deal and the other person then sends the goods and the person receives the goods so I
don't want it because I cancelled it.
		
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			When you didn't tell me Well, when you I sent you the email but I was still in the gallery. I was
still there. And you know, I told my my colleagues my secretary I told him listen be be you know, a
witness. I am politicking the same I don't want it
		
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			endless disputes, endless disputes. It just goes against the spirit of Sharia when something's done,
you stay to your word and you're done because there's so many verses of the Quran
		
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			Quran also says we'll actually do that the buyer to when you buy and sell make witnesses yet when
you buy and sell it's recommended have two witnesses okay imagine you do the buying and selling
remainders two witnesses and then we we went away and then suddenly one of you cancelled so once the
witness is going to you know, what's the point of of making witnesses the Quran says make witnesses
but then if you can, after half an hour of chatting, just cancel it, then what's the point in having
witnesses, etc, etc, etc. And there's so much other things can be said but this was the depth and
the insight and the photo and the fact of this great Imam Abu Hanifa Radi Allahu Anhu
		
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			and this is the third main reason people first reason was misinformation number two jealousy number
three was his football and his Falcon is our call that some people just couldn't understand where he
was coming from because it was just too much it was above the level and it was one that elevate the
rank of discretion
		
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			give us the trophy have to make live for Him and FOLLOW try to follow his footsteps.
		
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			sandbox
		
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			to question
		
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			anything burning question anyone?
		
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			If we haven't been getting anywhere
		
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			how many?
		
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			How many?
		
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			How many?
		
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			Just curious
		
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			the number but you know, lots of Imam Abu Hanifa wrote a book called tabula rasa, his own
competition. And then lots of other people gathered his Hadees in the old order, and there's about
17 massive collections, different different Imams, you know, some people here in Abu Hanifa only
knew 17 Hadith. And it's actually 17 massive chapters, each one of them bigger than body. So we will
change that into 17 edits. By mistake. Somebody wrote it like he heard 17 Just instead of chapters,
you just put them into increments. So there's 1000s 1000s
		
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			Just a question that relates to Baoshan. transaction, this book just lately,
		
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			if you buy something from Amazon, and that's you agreed and everything you received the good.
		
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			You didn't like it? Can you? No, no, that's very good question. Yeah, it wasn't I wanted to say this
is what you have some this is a normal transaction. But what you have is that
		
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			something called sharp sharp is one or both parties agreeing on the other party having the right to
cancel it by a certain date or three days, etc. That's separate. That's from the Sunnah as well. So
even if I'm highly progressive, that you know, if you put that as a condition this example I gave
was when that condition is not their normal sale and suddenly they just sitting on one side I don't
want to go ahead with it. But like from Amazon and not just one Amazon I think the very end even
normal I think, shops, they say within one month, you can return it. So they've already you've made
that it's in the contract so then it's fine.
		
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			Okay.
		
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			Before we make the
		
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			brother
		
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			who often comes to this gathering, his brother has passed away.
		
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			Brothers nephew, brothers nephew, brother, his nephew,
		
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			his brother's son, John.
		
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			He passed away yesterday. He's no more subtle, much more than 29 years old.
		
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			We all know somehow machinima forgive him and make the time of the grave and glioma easy for him.
		
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			Once again to thank Sheikh Mohammed for coming down and enlightening us and benefiting from his
knowledge. We hope that we can do many, many things.
		
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			In the future together
		
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			Trinity
		
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			recovery within hours as we
		
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			begin our
		
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			Hassan and Hussain
		
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			rub visually mopey masala
		
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			who are gonna fill
		
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			in the visible mini
		
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			no
		
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			Lunarlon yeah you
		
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			reason
		
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			for this
		
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			food