Moutasem al-Hameedy – The dialogue between the angels and Satan (Iblis) with God
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The importance of learning from clear Quran and drawing lessons from people on one's own is discussed in these conversations. The importance of honoring humans and creating evil behavior is also highlighted. Islam provides a way for humans to create and process new ideas, create abstract images, and make predictions. The use of the "fit minor" in Islam is discussed, as it allows humans to bring value to everything in life based on morality and knowledge. The concept of morality and its ability to bring value to everything in life is also discussed, along with its use in creating and giving value to everything in life based on morality and knowledge.
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Salam aleikum wa rahmatullah cattle. So again, I have almost almost how half an hour so I'll try to squeeze things in sha Allah in this short period of time. And here we're talking about two conversations that took place and the first one is between Allah subhanaw taala and the angels and we all know that this conversation is about the creation of Adam and Eve Salaam. And the second one is the conversation that took place between Allah subhanaw taala and shape one he believes himself after the command the divine command to prostrate to the angels to prostrate themselves before Adam so we're trying to draw as many lessons as possible here. So we will depend heavily I was going to
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When you Lord said to the angels, I am placing a successor on Earth. They said, Will you please in it someone who will cause corruption in attention blood.
While we declare your praises and sanctify you, he said, I know what you do not know.
And he told Adam the names of all of them. Then he presented them to the angels and said, tell me the names of these if you are sincere. They said Glory be to You. We have no knowledge except what You have taught us. It is you who are the knowledgeable the ways he said, Oh, Adam,
tell them their names. And when he told them their names, he said, Did I not tell you that I know the secrets of the *?
heavens and the earth, and that I know what you reveal and what you conceal. And we said to the angels bow down to Adam, they bow down, except for Satan, he refused, was arrogant and was one of the disbelievers. We said, oh Adam inhabit the garden, you and your spouse and eat from it free as you please but do not approach this tree, lest you become wrongdoers. But Satan caused them to slip from it and cause them to depart the state they were in we said go down some of you enemies of one another. And you will have residents on on their own Earth and enjoyment for a while. Then Adam received words from his Lord. So he relented towards him. He is presenting, he is the relenting the
Merciful.
So let's begin with the first conversation. The second conversation by the way, takes place after Allah subhanaw taala commands the angels to prostrate themselves before Adam and Satan refuses. So then there's a conversation that takes place. So we will not read it, but we will draw lessons from it inshallah to make use of the little time that we have.
So firstly, start to highlight the importance of the first conversation.
The first conversation shows the beginning of humanity of the existence of humans. Now, this is our history. So the Quran again, is not a book that relates to stories for fun. These stories, service and often they are the cornerstones of our faith. So Allah subhanaw taala, is answering the question that all of us ask ourselves at some stage or at many stages in our life, where did we come from? Why we're here for? What are we doing? What is the purpose behind all of this great creation.
We're trying to figure out the meaning of everything. We are designed in this way we are seeking purpose, we seeking meaning because the meaning of everything lies in its purpose.
So Allah subhanaw taala, in the Quran, having some divine as guidance for mankind. And it's obvious that Allah is going actually to tell us how all of this came together. Now, a good way to relate this to your personal life, as you know, all of the ups and downs that you experience in your life, all of the conditions, all of the states in the states that you go through all of that, everything that you experienced in your life, this is how it all began.
It began with divine intention. It began it began with divine will. And Allah subhanaw taala
initiated this conversations with the angels.
Some people might think that Allah initiated the conversation with the angels buying for the sake of consultation. But Allah subhanaw taala doesn't mean consultation. We need consultation, because we don't know everything. We have a lot of blind spots, we have a lot of points, you know, a lot of things that we are ignorant about. So we complement that we complete that we make up for, for what is missing, by means of drawing on other people's expertise, knowledge, advice, and so on and so forth. But with Allah subhanaw taala, the Creator of the heavens and the earth, He is aligning, he's attacking, he knows everything.
And he's wise. So Allah subhanaw taala, doesn't need conversations. Allah subhanaw taala doesn't need consultation. But Allah subhanaw taala has different purposes behind this beautiful conversation. First, he wants to demonstrate to us the importance of the existence of humans that draws its significance from the purpose for which we were created. And also to notify the angels of the great creation that is about to come into existence. That's a form of honoring humans. Allah says we'll have any Adam. So Allah subhanaw taala upon us. And you know, when you honor something, you know, when you have a huge event, what do people do, they build some kind of hype, right for it.
Although hype today, a lot of the hype that people create today is very cheap. But you know, you sort of get people ready for it, you get people praying for it.
So when the event comes, it's like, again, before the launch, you have everyone everyone's every everyone's eyes glued to the center of the action. So Allah subhanaw taala wants to notify the creation, including the angels about this great creation, very special creation that he is going to bring into existence. And that's honoring God
As humans, so Allah says, Allah Hickety Niger, Khalifa
you know the Arabic language for those who again know the Arabic language is, is a wonderful man.
It is a preposition of time it has to do with time.
It can translated as when, or at the time Allah spoke or the incident where Allah said to the angels I'm going to place on a Khalifa and Khalifa is a very rich word in the Arabic language, it could mean a successor, yes, and it could mean as and these are meanings that discursive texts you have provided, and all of them describe humans and the human condition. So Khalifa could actually be
a trusted and trusted individual,
a steamboat, someone that you appoint to fulfill a job. And definitely this is the case of humans, Allah subhanaw taala created has entrusted us with a great and then great trust a great mission and that is to worship Allah subhanaw taala. To love him to turn that into a lifestyle. That's number one. successor is also describes the nature of human the human race, generation successes, the previous one and so on and so forth. So this is the story of humans right?
A generation after generation,
Khalifa as well as someone who's given choice because you can't entrust someone with a mission without giving them the ability to make decisions, otherwise they're not Halifa Khalifa is someone that you give them some space for choice they can make decisions and they can act on their own.
Because if you don't give them that another Khalifa, they are a worker. The angels are already commissioned with something so they are not a Khalifa they asking Allah Amara
they never disobey Allah subhanaw taala and they only do what they are commanded to the angels don't choose they don't make choices. This is why they are not Khalifa so Allah told them I'm going to place with Khalifa
Palo Alto geography I'm a UFC goofy, how is he could deny our enemies and behind behind me going on Monday, Susan, are you going to place in?
Those are this creation that will bring corruption and shed blood.
Two things. Two things, spread corruption and shed blood
shedding blood is violence.
aggression.
This is violence and corruption. What are we talking about? We're talking about moral corruption. And we're talking about corruption of life of the balance in life.
Now I have a question for you.
How did the angels Allah just told them I'm going to place whenever Khalifa so they understand there's a new creation is going to be on earth? How did the angels conclude that and they voiced that Allah? Because Allah wanted them to do that.
That this creation is going to create corruption and shed blood How did they know that?
Before creation so there was Jin before and they created corruption and bloodshed. A lot of the books at CSC this year we don't have clear evidence that this is the reason we know that gene lived on earth way before humans. Yeah, but do we know that the angels arrived at that conclusion because of the story of the jinn we're not sure but it's a possibility any other reason?
How did the angels figure out
well we don't have this in the rest Allah said this, this but you know what the word Khalifa suggests that indicates this. But yeah, if someone has free will, but how did they know these two consequences blood corruption, violence and moral corruption? How did they know that?
How did they anticipate or expect that to happen?
Because this is the nature of the earth when Allah says I'm going to place in Khalifa that means a creation. And the angels knew that Allah will place a creation from the meat from the earth and the Prophet sallallahu even sent them set in Allah Allah Adam, mean competent Kabbalah, ham and Jimmy and Allah created Adam from what?
From a handful of mud that he collected from
Every part of the
job now movie Musa Hello Sabol oh come on holiday season, this is why humans, there is there as the variety of mud and dirt on earth, there is a variety of human demeanor and temperaments different, you know, treats people are different people not the same way German normal is what we will model and we have, and among them are different colors, because of the different types of debt. So, if a creation is made from that debt from the earth, it's gonna hold two of the traits of the
capacity for violence, which is in the Islamic tradition, and by the way, this is a universal thing, you will find it in Eastern traditions, you will find it in the Greek traditions, and it is mostly referred to in the philosophical world to Plato.
And this is that humans have a basic nature that is made of aggression and anger, Ebola, Bumblebee, power.
And the second one is desire and lust or What shall we and we will have a B creates violence and bloodshed
over Shall we creates what moral decay and corruption.
So that's why the angels thought if you're going to give a creature these two treats, since they are from Earth, you will give them choice, they will have free will, then if they act on this free will obviously you're going to do what they can to spread, they're going to bring corruption and shed blood. So that's how the angel is expected that now Allah subhanaw taala How did he respond? He didn't say no, they're not going to shed blood Allah said in the Alamo Malhotra Hanuman, I know what you don't know. What does that mean?
Allah is basically acknowledging the point that they raised, yes. But Allah said, there is more to this story.
I know what you don't know there is more that you don't know. There is an element that's going to change everything.
So it would be wiser to bring about this creation into existence rather than not to bring them into existence, despite what the corruption and the bloodshed, because all of the damage, all of the pain, all of the suffering that comes with bloodshed and violence throughout human history, if you look at human history is mostly *.
It's all bloodshed, it's all unjust war, destruction, most of it struggle for power at the individual level, and at the level of nations, and civilizations.
And then the corruption of desire. And we see when humans violate justice of Allah, the means and that he put into creation, when they violate moral principles, because there's a moral structure for reality, once you violate it, you're messing with a very powerful force. So when you do that, you know, you bring about destruction, you invite disease, you invite invite violence as well. You bring about a lot of damage to the human race.
And this is why the prophets of salaam said that any nation where you know, inappropriate indecent, evil actions spread among them, what's going to happen, they will be tried, or they will be tested with new diseases, plagues and illnesses that were not they were never in existence before.
So Allah says, angels, I know what you don't know there's more to the story than Allah to Adam, all of the names. And this is where this concept of CO have really diverged in so many explanations. What do these mean? Some of the companions said, Well, I'm Adam and Asma colada, Allah told Adam the names of everything, this is a tree, this is a cow, this is a rock and so on and so forth.
But you know, there is something that we know from the Tafseer of the companions, generally speaking, you will find the Companions when they, okay, the companions were not obsessed with academic definitions as we are today. So you will find, for example, Abdullah Massoud, when he talked about the verse about women and Nassima yesterday that will Hadith
and some people you know, by this idle talk, this waste kind of wasteful kind of talk and speech of the love of Mr. Wood said well Leila the Laila I love the holiday now, this is singing.
This is singing. Why is he defining was that
it was no he was giving a prime example of what that what that is. This is why a lot of the you know the different what seems to be definitions from the companions were actually examples.
So this is an example of what Allah taught Adam.
Some of them are sitting there trying to bring
In this together, and this is the last monitor that gave humans will happily give me the capacity for reason and wisdom. Because I've been is not logic and it's not intellect. Apple is more than that. Apple is wisdom and good judgment. That's what Apple is rotten apple
often is what holds you back from anything that is shameful. from anything that is evil. That's what happened is. So this is why there's a lot of confusion, you know, people will say, Oh, is there an apple, one apple? Is there a conflict between Apple and revelation? They translate his reason or intellect? That's not what the question is about. That's not what Apple is. Apple is grounded in fifth law. So when someone is very logical, but they but they arrive at immoral conclusions, they don't have Apple, they might have intelligence, which is the cap.
But they don't have happen.
Okay, so
some of them invested in drew this conclusion that Allah gave Adam the capacity to transcend these basic forces, these blind forces of aggression, violence, bloodshed, and lust and desire and moral decay, Adam, and the sons of Adam can transcend that Allah gave them the tool by means of wisdom, which is based more in the spiritual dimension of humans.
Well, Amanda, melasma Aquila, from Arab, Muhammad and Malacca. And it seems as well and this is this was drawn by some of the contemporary scholars if tafsir is that it's not not necessarily the Allah to Adam, each thing with its own name with his feet with his label, but Allah gave him the capacity, to develop knowledge, to develop knowledge, to build knowledge, to perpetuate knowledge, to create knowledge. Because this is how Allah teaches humans, because everything we know all the inventions, all of human knowledge that we have, is inspired by Allah. But how do we experience that it wasn't like laying on some kind of mountain or in a cave, and we just figured we found it, we stumbled on
it know? How does Allah give it to us through the process of thinking, intellectualizing research, and so on, and so forth. So Allah creates into this world, oftentimes, through tools, and some of these tools are the faculties that he gave us. So Allah subhanaw taala, gave humans this device, the ability to reduce things to symbolize, reduce things into symbols, create an abstract image representation of reality, and process that and that's a very powerful thing. And the verse can really carry this meaning easily. So Allah told Adam, all of the names that Allah made a show in front of our display. Before the angels, he said, Tell me what the names of these things the angels
can only learn what Allah teaches them firsthand, they don't learn on their own. This is why it's an indication that Allah gave Adam a device to be able to learn,
to be able to learn and process so the angels only know what Allah teaches them firsthand. That's it, they don't drive conclusions except when Allah instructs them to just like with the question that he that he asked them at the beginning of the suggestion that he'd given them at the beginning of the conversation. So then the angels haven't seen these things haven't been taught their names. They said, We don't know this. We only know what you told us. alasa said, Didn't I tell you that I know what you don't know.
Then he says, oh, Adam, tell them the names of these things.
So Adam was able to name these things. And again, whether Allah is one time to give him the specific names, but most likely Allah told him how to name things. This is why we discover new things, and we are able to give them names. We're able to understand them, codify them, and then proceeds to make research, study them draw conclusions, make predictions, predictions, and make discoveries and so on and so forth. This is why the human life is very rich compared to the animals because the animals were given the two base forces, the one for power and aggression, which is their defenses well, and also desire and lust and that is for meeting and perpetuation. But they don't have they were not
given this gift that was special to animali Ceylon. And here is a beautiful catch.
Allah subhanaw taala the angels raised the point that was if you place on Earth, this kind of creation, won't there be bloodshed and corruption.
This point is still standing.
Allah has not addressed it directly in speech, Allah said, I know what you're gonna know. So this point still needs an answer.
Still needs an answer. Allah did not provide the answer in words. Allah provided the answer in what in demonstration and
In a demonstration, when he brought these things before Adam,
and he said I named them and Adam was able to name them.
How does this answer I, by the way, I'm not going to get to the second conversation because I almost run out of time. But if I can get to this point, that would be a great thing and Shawn law today.
So how does this demonstration? Answer, I don't want to see the objections. And people raise it, say, Oh, this is an objection raised by the angels know, Allah subhanaw taala told them, and structured them that he wants to have this conversation and Allah wanted them to voice you know, what goes through their mind, as they hear about this divine plan.
So they raise these two points, a creature on earth from Earth, that has choice that can actually act out their desires, then these desires are blind just like the animals, the animals again, what do they kill, to eat and survive? And they meet, that's what they do.
So how did Allah subhanaw taala? Answer this point for the angels?
This is a quiz. And there is no no present for the answer.
Can someone figure out how to because the last one time that goes after this, Allah, Allah says, oh, Adam, tell them their names Adam
VanBuren, remember, ambience met him when Adam named them. And from the angels of the names, Allah said, LM Apple, look him in the Alamo Amis and I was able to do now I'm not going to deny tell you that I know what's hidden in the heavens and the earth. And I know what you reveal, and I know what you conceal. So I know more than you know, there is more to this story than what you can perceive. And this is a message to humans as well, by the way, we humans try to make final conclusions. When we only see a small, tiny segment in the spectrum of reality. That's the arrogance of humans. We try to arrive at conclusions we try to challenge divine guidance and wisdom, when what we know is very
little. And we think so well of ourselves. That's the problem with humans. That's the arrogance. And this is what Khufu comes from this is where denial and ungratefulness come from.
Okay, so Allah subhanaw taala, this is the story. Then he moves on to say, and we said to the angels Prostrate yourself before Adam, so it seems to be like the conversation has not ended because there is a question, or there's a point that the angels raised? Where is the answer to it?
The answer is in what
isn't the demonstration.
That according to what you know, according to what, you know, if that's if every if what you know, is going to be the only thing in existence, you have a valid point, yes, there would be bloodshed, there will be corruption and moral decay.
But you know what, there is a new element that is brought into this equation that's going to change everything.
And it's going to demonstrate the creativity, divine creativity and wisdom and ability in ways that were never there before.
You don't even see me It says Allah creates for a wise purpose. And what doesn't create random people always purpose. And the ultimate purpose of a loss antenna for crit for creating whatever he creates, is that his names and attributes are very powerful and potent, and they are perfect.
So they express themselves, Allah is the Creator, so he creates, if a creator doesn't create, then the attribute of creation or creativity has not been expressed.
Allah is merciful. So if there is nothing to receive the mercy and be the recipient of the Mercy, then this divine attribute has not been expressed.
So Allah subhanaw taala, through His creation, more of his beauty is personal beauty And the beauty beauty of His names and attributes, becomes manifested, comes expressed fully in the creation.
So Allah subhanaw taala, in the creation of Adam, there is a new aspect of the names and attributes of Allah subhanaw taala, that will become manifested, that will become expressed that was never expressed before in what we were taught.
And this shows mainly with the worship, we demonstrate that we humans with the worship of Allah, which is ultimately the love of Allah subhanaw taala that we live in a state of love and we act this love out into a lifestyle.
So what is that thing? This is again, it's not only the intellect
It's the intellect. It's the fitrah
that comes from the spiritual dimension which is morally good, naturally good, which is balanced.
Okay, which is the element of morality, goodness, justice, fairness, truth. It's natural, it's built in us. And the ability to bring that into a world of creation and give value to everything in life and then process it based on this. This is what a Latin really is. And this is what Allah gave Adam valleys. And so Adam alayhis, salam, and all of His children are able to reason
with life and all of the elements that are in existence based on moral and wise terms.
And where do we find these moral and wise terms, they are given to us in the form of football
built in, but they need to be unlocked. In that sense, they're more like a seed, and they are given to us through Revelation.
So Revelation and football, really resonate your reflection of each other. This is why CIF was given to me or I'm allowed to Allah He said, awam within the establishment of Islam, meaning the reality of Islam itself,
in Allah who will fit brothel more Camella, Sharia hatin Munez Allah is the federal law that is completed, that is optimized with the revealed text. That's what Islam is.
That's what Islam is. And this is the only thing that helps humans transcend these base blind, destructive forces that when they are utilized, well, they actually become full forces for development and civilization. But when they are, when they play out, beyond the control, and the guidance of the fitrah, of wisdom, of good intellect, and moral principles, they become destructive forces. This way, humans without the guidance from a loss panel data that will bring about destruction upon themselves. They might show some promise in terms of invention, civilization, knowledge, etc. But soon, they will fall into moral decay. And when they fall into moral decay, what
do they do, they destroy their societies,
they destroy themselves, they turn the whole universe against them, is the creation of Allah starts to kiss them, then they will be blinded to the point that they will bring upon themselves their own destruction, even with their own hands. And we see that in a lot of the new lifestyles that are emerging. And a lot of destruction, by the way is happening already. But you know what, it's hidden from us through the powerful machine of media, and that manages our focus and attention and puts it where some people want it to be. But there is a lot that is happening in the world that we don't hear about.
There's a lot of crimes that are taking place. But you know, other things are highlighted to give us a fake perception or impression about reality. So this was the first conversation and this is our history. This is how Adam came about. You know, when humans don't believe in this on when humans turn away from that they start trying to figure out, you know, theories, which are what superstitions really, they're just sophisticated superstitions
to to be an alternative because humans cannot live without knowing where they came from. We need to know a story. We can't live without knowing your story, we need to know where we began from where we came from how we began. So this is why humans come up with one big bang theory and other theories of how the existence came, came into being or evolution, right. And humans are a continuation of that and so on and so forth. And people will tell you, this is science, this is our data that is based on no solid foundations, it's up to them, it is up to them.
Okay, so when we read the Quran, you see the Quran relates to our lives, it really gives us so much about our identity, because without history, we don't have an identity. We don't know ourselves, we will struggle
will be lost.
So last until it tells us where we came from, how we how we came about to be and what was the story and how was the launch of human existence. It was very remarkable and very beautiful.
And then the other conversation, hopefully maybe if we
future, okay, insha Allah, maybe we will come to it again. Let's Allah again, for coming out joining us today. I hope that you benefit from these sessions and that you are able to reflect on them discipline love
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