Mohammad Elshinawy – Should Muslims Establish a LOBBY

			Someone asked me a question last night, and I'd like to see your response to it. They said, Israel,
the nation of Israel, the government and the Zionist sort of, you know, elements of it have an
extremely effective in institutional capture. Right infiltrating institutions at a high level. You
know,
		

			let's say targeted pressure, lobbying, etc. Why don't we do the same? Okay. And my response was, and
I'd like to hear your thoughts about it.
		

			People resent that. You know, if you look, actually now the tide is turning, like you said, with
social media, how we've been able to push back and expose these lies, illuminate and put a show a
spotlight on these connections and these moneyed interests. And this, these biases, people actually
resent it. If you're not actually on the side of truth, if you're just trying to play the game and
manipulate and work behind closed doors and capture institutions to use them for your sort of thing.
What we're seeing is a much more popular mass uprising of distrusting the mainstream media, trying
to find out the truth.
		

			Would you agree with that analysis? First of all, I think it's true that people I mean, there's lots
of books written on the Israel lobby. I think John Mearsheimer has a famous book called the Israel
lobby. John Michel Messina is like one of the top figures of international relations. And, and they
speak about how like the the sort of the Zionist lobby lobby, you know, influences senators and,
		

			you know, members of the House of Representatives and etc, in America and other places in the world,
but specifically America. And
		

			that's a strategy that has, to some extent been working according to international relations
scholars, there's a difference of opinion, as to is this effect, direct? Or is it not? Is it more
exaggerated in our understanding or not? But what's clear to me, as I think you alluded to, is at
this for us to establish a position or placement like this,
		

			with political representatives in America, it will take more than a generation, right? Because you
got to look at the apparatus of
		

			like, for example, politics in the United States of America, in the United Kingdom, what kind of
political system structures we've got in place, and what it takes to actually influence things to a
legislative level. So if, for example, we look at the House of Representatives and the Senate, the
Senate, there's two, I mean, the way in the United States works, the legislature is divided into two
houses. Now, really, the senators have more pound for pound weight, then House of Representatives
now to to not just influence the senators, but to influence the executive branch of government,
which, frankly, Senators can have that influence as well, of course, in some of the things that the
		

			executive branch of government, the President will require approval from the Senate and from the
House of Representative, it will require what kind of money we're talking about here, we're talking
about is going to go it's going across the maybe the trillion mark really, just to get our voice
heard, and we're competing with a lobby, that's well established, right?
		

			It's an inefficient use of resources. The same thing applies for the United Kingdom, we've got 636
		

			chairs called certain chairs or seats in the House of Commons. And then you have what was then
called the House of Lords, you've got once again to chambers, House of Lords doesn't really have a
power. Most MPs don't have power to affect law, especially not law relating to foreign policy
decision making, to get to a position where you're going to affect that in here in Canada, where we
are, there's 136 seats or 126 seats, I just had a conversation with an MPP. They call them MPs,
which will you must review whether or not I was particularly MPP. And, and I was having conversation
with her, that they all got party whips, they've all got you know, this is very difficult to
		

			influence situation use a lot of money, right?
		

			And you need a lot of time, and you need to have a lot of connections, and it's not easy to
establish yourself, cut the sale and have a conversation with such and such a person. And it's these
things are well established and have been for a very long time.
		

			As you mentioned, therefore, I mean, the strongest and quickest and best, what were our strengths
are as Muslim peoples are numbers. Yeah. Now Muslims are 2 billion people on the face of the earth.
I mean, this is like clinging to Pew. 25%. Clearly, that's what the strength is. So a mass kind of
movement, whether we use the internet or any other medium, protest action, whatever it may be,
that's clearly getting the attention of the politicians. It's changing the tone of a journalist is
changing the tone of UN representatives and it's changing the tone of everyone.
		

			US raising awareness, the public opinion war, the information war, that is clearly where our
strength lies, if we think we're going to influence things by trying a strategy effectively, that's
not ours. And a number two, which is not even effective, or there's no proof of concept for it
right?
		

			I don't think that's the way to go at this stage