Mirza Yawar Baig – Follow your passion

Mirza Yawar Baig
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The speakers discuss the importance of passion for oneself rather than just one's interests. They emphasize the process of learning and studying to become a leader consultant, including attending workshops and studying for an MBA. They found an MBA course in the top 10 institutions in India, but it was too expensive and they didn't have the means to pay. They were eventually asked to sponsor them but were denied. The speakers emphasize the importance of letting one's words and actions determine their success and emphasize the importance of asking oneself if it is their passion and whether it is worth their investment.
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My brothers and sisters,

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my

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very dear friend and brother,

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specialises in asking good questions,

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And I truly appreciate that because it helps

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me to

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reflect more deeply and to think and to

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introspect.

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May Allah bless him for this

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beautiful

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trait.

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So he asked me a question. He's in

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Egypt just now. He asked me he said

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we are

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some relatives of mine and I, we are

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talking and people are saying that

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they want to follow their passion,

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but they are afraid

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of leaving their dead end job

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because the economic situation

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is not favorable.

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So

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he's asking me what is your response?

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My response is as follows.

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1st and foremost,

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whatever you think

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is your passion,

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ask yourself,

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is that really my passion

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or

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is it an interest?

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Is it something that I

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have a liking for?

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Is it something that I think,

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sounds like a good idea?

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Because there is a difference

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between a passion

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and something that's only an interest

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which is as big

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and as vast

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and as

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marked

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as the difference

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between

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swimming in a swimming pool

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and

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being thrown

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into

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a flooded river

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or falling into a flooded river

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because your boat sank or something

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and trying

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desperately

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to stay alive

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and get to

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the shore.

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It is as

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stark

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as that.

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Swimming pool is a choice.

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Swimming pool is where

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you are

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safe

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even

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where you might be thinking that you will

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drown. You will not drown because there are

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people there that are lifeguards. There are other

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people there, and so on and so forth.

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You are, like, you know,

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5 feet or 4 feet from the side

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of the pool. You can just grab hold.

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But when you are in a flood, you're

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being tumbled in the flood up and down

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inside,

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going down into the water, coming up in

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the water. You have no clue. Will I

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live or die? You want to you you

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don't want to die.

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What will you do?

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That is passion.

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What you will do there is passion.

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And believe me there, you're not thinking about

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the scenery, you're not thinking about the environment,

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you're not thinking about the economic situation.

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You're thinking only about one thing, how do

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I succeed?

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What can I do

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to get myself

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out of this

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and be alive?

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What can I do to prevent myself from

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dying?

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That is passion.

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So,

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first question. Ask yourself

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whatever you think is your passion.

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Is it really your passion?

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And apply this

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this analogy of mind.

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Is it like falling into a river

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and thrashing around desperately

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to get out

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and save yourself,

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or is it

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swimming in a pool?

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If it is swimming in a pool, which

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is what the situation is with most people

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that I have ever talked about talked to

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about this.

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Because this is a very common topic. A

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lot of people like to talk about, oh,

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shit.

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I want to do this. I want to

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do that. Okay. You did it. Yeah. Sure.

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I did it. You want to know how

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I did it?

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Then read my book. A book is called

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an entrepreneur's diary. Read the book. I took

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the trouble to write the whole book because

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people ask these questions. So I said, okay.

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Let me explain to you what I did.

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In a nutshell and that's not so that

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you don't read the book. Read the book

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because,

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there's a lot more in the book.

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In a nutshell,

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I decided in 1983

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that I wanted to become

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a leadership consultant.

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I wanted to teach leadership.

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So I didn't just say, okay, who who

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who can I teach leadership to? I said,

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first thing and foremost,

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which I decided was and I and I

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acknowledge was,

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what do I know about leadership?

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Today, I know a lot.

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Today, I know more than most people.

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But in 1983, I didn't know the first

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thing about leadership.

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So I said if I want

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to teach people leadership, I need to understand

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what leadership is.

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So I

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started studying. I started reading.

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I started,

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attending

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workshops on leadership.

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I

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spoke to some friends of mine who were

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leadership trainers,

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and I requested them to

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allow me to

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to shadow them,

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you know, go to their class,

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be with them, watch what they do.

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And they were very kind, they agreed

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because all this was free. I mean, I

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I had no money to pay them.

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They never asked me, but even even if

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they had asked me, I had no money

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to pay them.

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There was no course

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in leadership development

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teaching

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then at the time. I don't know if

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there is even a course now, but that

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time definitely there wasn't.

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Meanwhile, a friend of mine said to me,

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if you are serious about

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becoming a consultant, then you need to get

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an MBA. I didn't have an MBA at

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the time in 83.

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So this friend of mine said to me

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and remember all this while I'm talking, years

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are passing.

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So he said to me, you need to

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get an MBA. So I said, okay. Now

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how do I get an MBA? Because I'm

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in a full time job. I need that

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job

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to make ends meet. 85, I got married,

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so I'm married now.

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I,

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have to support my wife,

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So I can't leave my job. So

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I

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researched, and I found that

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there was an executive,

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MBA

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course available in the number one,

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the best MBA institution in India,

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which is called the Indian Institute of Management,

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Ahmedabad.

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This, was set up

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in collaboration,

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set up at the initiative of Vikram Sarabhai

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and Joel and Erud at that time,

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in collaboration with the with Harvard Business School.

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So it's the it's the top number one

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institution. This friend of mine also told me,

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don't get an MBA from anywhere. They get

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it from the top because at the end

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of the day, that name of the institution

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sells.

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So they had this course.

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It was an executive

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MBA program, 6 month course,

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which start basically

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their entire 2 year

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formal MBA

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syllabus in that period of 6 months. So

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it was

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no leave, no vacation,

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classes and then making

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class presentations,

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studying and so on, which I wanted to

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you had to study for something like literally

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16 to 18 hours a day.

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And no holidays, no festival holidays, no weekends,

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no nothing.

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And

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the fee was the same as the 2

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year program.

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Now that was way beyond what I could

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afford.

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Way beyond. I mean, there's not even a

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comparison

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because my salary in those days was 800

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rupees a month.

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And,

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my bank balance, if I can call it

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that,

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I remember once I went to the bank,

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State Bank of India,

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and updated my passbook

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long before all this became online.

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And I had 500 rupees, 500 Indian rupees

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in my account and I felt like a

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king, I said wow, I've got 500

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whole rupees in my account,

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those days. So now

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the fee in those days was 30,000 rupees.

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Right? So imagine what what 800 rupees salary,

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500 rupees the bank, and 30,000 is the

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salary is is the

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fee.

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So did I give up? I didn't give

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up.

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I consulted with my wife.

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I sold my car.

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I had a I had a secondhand ambassador

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which didn't give me too much money, but

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it got me some money.

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Then the rest of the money,

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I borrowed.

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I went to the company, and I said,

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well, I'm going to do this course, and

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this would be good for my job, and

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I'm working for you. So I'll come back

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and bring all this goodness to your job.

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They were not impressed. So I said, okay.

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So don't so I said, will you sponsor

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me? Always ask. This is what this is

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another big thing I always tell people. Just

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ask.

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What's gonna happen? They they say no. No

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problem. Let them say no. It won't kill

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you. Right? But ask because many times by

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asking you get you'll be surprised

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how much you will get just by asking,

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so ask.

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And

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so I asked and they said no. So

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I said, okay. And never give up. They

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never say, oh, but you asked and they

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said, no. It doesn't matter. So I have

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no means no by this way. No in

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this way. So find another way. So I

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said I went to them and I said,

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look,

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how about I,

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how about you give me a loan?

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And,

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then I repay this loan.

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So they said, okay, we will give you

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a loan,

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but we will not give you the entire

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amount. We will give you half the amount.

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Now

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really, sometimes I ask my my self I

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ask people, you know, you are giving somebody

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half the amount they need. They're asking you

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because they don't have the money. By giving

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them half the amount, how are you helping

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them? But anyway,

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so they said okay, have the amount.

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So that half the amount they gave me

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as a loan to be repaid and they

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said that

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you also have to write a bond to

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say that you will not leave

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the employment of this company for 3 years.

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Now that is technically illegal.

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You cannot bind somebody to a job,

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in a bond which is nonreciprocal.

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So they are not saying we will not

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fire you for 3 years.

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We guarantee your job for 3 years. They

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are saying you can't leave.

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But, of course, if they want to find

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me, they can kick me out, you know,

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in in 2 in 2 minutes.

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So this but this is reality. This is

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reality. This is where your passion is tested.

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So I said, okay. So, you know, let

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me send this bond. So I signed the

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bond. I'm still

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out for have the money. So that's where

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I sold I sold the car. So I

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went to the I got this loan first,

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and then I sold the car,

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and, you know,

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did that. And then I went now.

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This was in 1985.

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So 1983, 1985. 1985, I also got married.

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So

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soon after 1 month after getting married, I

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disappeared

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for 6 months.

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And my wife went to her parents place.

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Now we had this understanding between us and

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I cannot thank Allah subhanahu wa ta'ala enough

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for giving me the wife he gave me

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and the kind of support He's always always

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always provided me.

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So

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1 month after marriage

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no contact with my wife for the next

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6 months because my wife was in England

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I was in Ahmedabad in India

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these were the days before chats so it

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was either a telephone an international telephone call

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which I could not afford, so I never

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made it.

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Or

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write a letter.

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So I don't see her. I don't talk

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to her for 6 months.

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This kind of grueling brutal schedule.

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But at the end of that,

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I got my

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degree and then I worked in this company

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for another 3 years

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as I had promised

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I could have left I could have contested.

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I could have said this whole bond itself

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is illegal. I said, no. You give your

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word. You you

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you you keep your word.

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So

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I I completed my job there.

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The job itself, of course, I love the

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job. It's a beautiful job. I was a

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plantation manager,

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and that's all of this is part of

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the part of the test.

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Now the job when I finally left the

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job,

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I was living in a

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15,000 square feet bungalow on top of a

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hill.

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I had

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8 7s.

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I had

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2 cars,

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drivers.

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I had I was interested in horse riding,

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so I had my own horse.

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I love dogs, so I had dogs.

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I was

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the king of the, you know, king of

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the hips.

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You name it.

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It was a beautiful job, luxurious surroundings,

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everything.

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I never I didn't leave the job because

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I didn't like the job. I left the

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job because my passion was leadership development to

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become a leadership development trainer.

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So

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from a

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1983

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to 1994,

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when I finally set up shop as a

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full time leadership trainer,

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I did not take one single day's

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vacation. Not one day.

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These were the days when we had a

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one day weekend, which was Sunday.

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And,

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that Sunday,

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I would spend in

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study.

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We didn't have a single rupee to spare

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because every figure we had

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was invested in books,

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was invested in travelling from place to place

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to shadow and and see

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what my,

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the people who were kind enough to allow

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me into their classes were doing and then

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to debrief with them and so on so

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on.

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And no

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extra money to stay in a decent hotel.

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So where I could pile on to friends

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in those places, I did that, and everybody

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was very nice, and they allowed me to

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come and just, you know, camp on their

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couch in their living room or something, or

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where there were no such places. I have

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stayed in hotels that today you would not

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even kennel your dog in it.

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I used to travel by train because that's

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the only thing I could afford. Indian train,

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3rd class, which was a plank

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there was no seat, there was a plank

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and you sat on the plank and then

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the night you slept on the plank just

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wooden plank

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I did all that

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because it was a passion.

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1983 to 1994.

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1994,

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I resigned my job and set up shop

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in

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Bangalore.

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And for 1 year,

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things were so tough

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financially

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because I was completely unknown. I had I

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was not I was a line manager. I

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was a production manager.

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I was not in the HR circuit. I

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was not in the training circuit.

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And so, therefore, I was,

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you know,

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completely

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unknown.

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So to make a mark, to break into

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the market, all of this is my book,

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so read the book.

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I did all that took me a year,

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but in that one year, there were

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several times, several months when I did not

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have money to pay

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my house

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rent until

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sometimes one day before it was due or

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2 days before it was due Allah

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never allowed me

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to default on the rent, so I always

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got the money,

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you know,

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default payments and stuff. But

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that's what I did.

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And

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in 1985,

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thanks to the same friend of mine who

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advised me to get an MBA, Pratik Roy.

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He got me an opening into GE into

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their trainings into their training scene,

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and I became a GE,

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certified,

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trainer,

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and so on and so on and so

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on. That's a long story. But the point

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being that then business became,

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a little more,

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regular.

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But all through that period, all through the

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hunger, all through the tension,

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there was nothing that I wanted to do

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more than leadership training.

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And that remains to the day. Alhamdulillah.

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So ask yourself

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is it a passion number 1? Number 2

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then invest what it takes.

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It's a very simple equation. If I say

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I want a suit,

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okay, great, lovely.

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So

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what kind of suit?

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Well, you can go into a thrift store,

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and you can get

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a somebody's old suit. Go and get it

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dry cleaned, and you can wear it.

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Now it'll cost you maybe,

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you know, what does it cost you?

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I've never bought

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a suit in a store, so I can't

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tell you. But, so it cost you whatever

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it cost you. Right?

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But you said, no. No. No. No. I

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want an Armani suit

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made

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to measure.

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Then believe me, we are not talking the

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same numbers

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as in the thrift store.

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We are not talking the same numbers as

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in the thrift store.

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So if you decide you want an Armani

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suit made to measure, can you have it?

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Of course, you can have it,

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but it cost that much money,

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So if you have a passion

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and you say, can I achieve my passion?

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Short answer,

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absolutely yes.

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No doubt.

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Longer answer, you have to pay what it

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costs.

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Is it worth your while or not? Do

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you think it is worth that payment?

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That is the key which decides whether it

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is your passion or not.

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Because if it is your passion, that question

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will not come in your mind.

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You will not be thinking economic up scale,

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down scale, whatnot makes no difference. Believe me,

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my brother.

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Because for the people for whom it's not

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a passion, when the economy is good, that

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will be a reason not to leave the

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job because everything is going fine. Why disturb?

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When the economy is bad, that will be

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a reason not to leave the job because

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the economy is bad. I don't know what

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will happen to me outside.

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But for somebody who has faith in Allah

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Subhanahu Wa Ta'ala and for whom that thing

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is actually a passion

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that person will do what it takes

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to get it done.

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Is it easy? No, it's not easy.

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But for the person, it's like climbing Mount

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Everest.

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Is it something for you or me? That's

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something you have to decide. But if you

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talk to them to the to the people

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who are actually scaling the mountain,

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go to the 1st base camp and talk

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to them. There is no doubt in their

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mind.

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Is it worth it?

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You need to ask that question to those

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people. No.

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If you ask them that question, they will

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say, if you think if I thought it

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was not worth it, what do you think

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I'm doing here and on this base camp?

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I'm not sitting here cooking food for the

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4 climbers. I'm I am the climber.

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So

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we begin where we end.

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Ask yourself a simple question, is it my

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passion?

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And then

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