Khalid Latif – Imam Nawawis 40 Hadith for Modern Times #11

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The Hadith number 5 in the book of the Hadith is not of their own, and people should look up the collection of hadiths written by Omar Nawawi. The holy spirit is a concept that is rooted in negative knowledge and is not a gendered entity, and the holy month is a means of benefit for people. The importance of acceptance, finding a way to change one's behavior, learning one's religion in a structured way to avoid confusion, and bringing family members to events and creating groups for black-romantical initiatives is emphasized. Half-day half-week breaks and guest speakers on the internet will be held, and the importance of bringing family members to events and creating groups for black-romantical initiatives is emphasized.

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			People wanna
		
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			take a quick minute,
		
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			get settled in. If you wanna introduce yourselves
		
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			to the people sitting around you, feel free
		
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			to grab some of the food that's left
		
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			over from Iftar also.
		
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			Thank you to whoever gave me this cough
		
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			drop,
		
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			and I hope it was for me because
		
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			I'm eating it right now. So it was
		
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			for somebody else.
		
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			Sucks to be here.
		
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			Actually,
		
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			Okay. Should we get started?
		
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			So today we were gonna start looking at
		
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			hadith number 5,
		
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			and this collection of hadith of imam Nawawi,
		
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			and this is a hadith that talks about
		
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			a concept
		
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			of innovation in religion, was called bida.
		
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			We'll get into it in a bit, but
		
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			if people wanna just pull up the hadith,
		
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			on their phone, you just Google hadith number
		
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			5, Nawawi,
		
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			or imam Nawawi's hadith 5.
		
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			It'll pop up.
		
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			It's on the authority
		
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			of,
		
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			Aisha.
		
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			May Allah be pleased with her.
		
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			Does anybody have the hadith in front of
		
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			them?
		
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			Yeah. Can you read it for us in
		
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			English or Arabic?
		
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			Anybody?
		
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			Somebody wanna read it?
		
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			Do
		
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			you have it?
		
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			No? What are you doing back there?
		
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			You're watching something else?
		
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			You're the worst.
		
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			Yeah. I'm a sick man, guys. Can you
		
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			please help?
		
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			Hadith number 5.
		
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			I also don't have it in front of
		
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			me. I was working on something else.
		
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			You have it?
		
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			Yeah. Can you read the English? Oh, my
		
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			gosh. My gosh. My gosh.
		
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			You look different with your glasses.
		
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			I ran out of contact lenses.
		
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			And,
		
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			I've never seen you with a glasses.
		
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			Really? Yeah. Yeah.
		
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			I really like wearing my contacts,
		
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			but,
		
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			I have very bad eyesight. I don't know
		
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			if people have bad eyesight in this.
		
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			Mine is negative 10 and a half. You
		
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			know?
		
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			Yeah.
		
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			So it's Mine is like minus 8. Mine
		
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			is 8. Yeah. Mine is like minus 2.
		
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			Yeah. Oh, I guess I can understand. Yeah.
		
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			No.
		
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			We can't relate to each other at all,
		
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			actually. I don't know. Yeah.
		
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			So now that we know about my eye
		
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			conditions, does anybody have the Hadith in front
		
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			of them? Hadith number 5, Imam Nawi's hadith.
		
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			You got it? Can you read it? Thanks,
		
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			man.
		
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			On the authority of the mother of the
		
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			faithful Aisha
		
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			who said, the messenger of Allah
		
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			said,
		
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			he who innovates something in this matter of
		
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			ours,
		
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			Islam,
		
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			that is not of it, will have it
		
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			rejected
		
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			by Allah.
		
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			Or another version says, he who does an
		
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			act which is which have not
		
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			wait. He who does an act which we
		
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			have not commanded,
		
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			will have it rejected by Allah.
		
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			Is that clock here? Oh, yeah. Does anybody
		
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			wanna read the Arabic?
		
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			You want, Andre? I'll try. Yeah. Go for
		
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			it. Okay.
		
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			Yeah. Yeah.
		
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			Yeah. Yeah. Yeah.
		
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			Great.
		
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			So this is a new hadith. The ones
		
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			we were looking at before
		
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			so far, they've been transmitted by Omar Ibn
		
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			Al Khattab,
		
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			Abdullah, I've been
		
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			Omar, and Abdullah, I've been Masood.
		
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			We talked about all of them in a
		
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			little bit of detail, may Allah be pleased
		
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			with them,
		
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			And help to kinda give us a little
		
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			bit more context and insight as to who
		
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			they are
		
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			and where we can place these words within
		
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			historical context,
		
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			as well as learn a little bit more
		
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			about the people who surrounded the prophet of
		
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			God, peace be upon him.
		
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			So this hadith
		
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			is narrated by
		
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			Aisha Radiallahu Ta'ala Anha.
		
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			For those who are not familiar,
		
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			someone is considered to be a companion of
		
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			the prophet of God, a generation that we
		
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			call the Sahaba.
		
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			If
		
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			they
		
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			both have
		
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			interacted with the prophet directly in their lifetime
		
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			and they pass away in a state of
		
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			faith in Islam, iman.
		
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			So if one did not have one or
		
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			both of these,
		
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			they live contemporarily,
		
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			for example, you know, in the same, like,
		
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			era,
		
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			but never met the prophet, it wouldn't have
		
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			worked, even if they were Muslim,
		
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			or if they did meet the prophet but
		
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			did not die as a Muslim, like Abu
		
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			Lahab
		
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			met the prophet
		
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			but did not die as a Muslim, he
		
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			wouldn't be considered
		
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			a companion.
		
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			Does that make sense?
		
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			And then you have generations
		
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			that are then understood thereafter
		
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			based off of that
		
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			initial generation. So the next generation,
		
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			they're called the Dab'in or the Followers.
		
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			And they're of that generation.
		
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			If they had met a Sahaba in their
		
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			life and also died in a state of
		
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			faith, then the generation after that is called
		
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			the Tabit
		
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			Abi'in, right, and so on and so forth.
		
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			And so the companions of the prophet,
		
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			they were considered
		
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			within
		
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			Sunni tradition of Islam in particular
		
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			to all have a very high status
		
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			in terms of their,
		
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			just existence, so to speak.
		
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			There's a narration
		
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			that says,
		
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			in Allah, another of
		
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			that indeed God Allah looked into the hearts
		
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			of his Ibad, his righteous servants.
		
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			For wajada khayra kulu bida Ibaad kalba Muhammad
		
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			Sallallahu Alaihi Wasallam and he found that the
		
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			best of hearts was the heart of Muhammad
		
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			Sallallahu Alaihi Wasallam
		
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			Fastafahudinafsi,
		
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			he he chooses him for himself. This is
		
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			why when the names of the Prophet is
		
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			Al Mustafa, the chosen one. So he selects
		
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			him for himself
		
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			and he endows him with the responsibility being
		
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			the last messenger to mankind. Is that hadith
		
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			continues, it says Allah looked into the hearts
		
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			of his creation again, and he found that
		
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			the best of hearts after the heart of
		
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			the prophet Muhammad
		
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			were the hearts of his companions.
		
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			And so he appoints them to be the
		
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			Hadid says his wuzarah,
		
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			his advisers. Right? There are people around him
		
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			that give him, like, counsel, etcetera.
		
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			And so there's a lot of insight that
		
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			we can understand
		
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			from just the sociological
		
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			context of Mecca and Medina,
		
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			the way society function, the norms, how people
		
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			interacted, but also where
		
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			things manifested
		
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			from Quranic teaching in the lives of these
		
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			people. And what makes the companions
		
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			really
		
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			important for a lot of us
		
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			is that we're gonna talk about a concept
		
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			called bida in this hadith.
		
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			Sorry, I have a cough drop in my
		
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			mouth.
		
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			Thank you again for whoever gave me the
		
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			cough drop.
		
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			It's actually really helpful.
		
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			And the opposite of the word Bida or
		
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			innovation
		
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			is sunnah.
		
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			Right? So if we were to try to
		
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			understand what something is by understanding what it's
		
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			not, like a bidda
		
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			is
		
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			not good because the sunnah is good. Right?
		
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			It is that's kind of the way that
		
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			they are juxtaposed to each other.
		
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			And so this Hadid is gonna talk to
		
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			us about,
		
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			like, not just what innovation is, but the
		
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			importance of the sunnah.
		
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			And taking the prophet as an exemplary role
		
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			model within our tradition is something that
		
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			likely one could understand why that's a thing.
		
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			With the companions offered to us in addition
		
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			to that example
		
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			is also an access point
		
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			that gives us an understanding of not just
		
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			how do you
		
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			do well when things are going well but
		
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			how do you do well when you're struggling
		
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			with something, when you make mistakes?
		
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			Because
		
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			you find tangible examples amongst people who are
		
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			now struggling. Right? Like these people that we're
		
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			talking about, they either converted to Islam early
		
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			on
		
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			or like I showed at the Allahu Ta'ala
		
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			Anha.
		
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			She says in her own words, like, she
		
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			didn't know her parents other than them being
		
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			Muslim
		
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			because she was at such a young age
		
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			at that time
		
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			that that's all she understood in her home
		
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			was Islam.
		
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			You see?
		
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			But when you're thinking about people who over
		
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			23 years of revelation
		
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			converted to Islam,
		
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			there's people who became Muslim in the first,
		
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			like decade plus in Mecca 13 years
		
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			and
		
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			there's no like a lot of verses at
		
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			that point are not about
		
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			like rulings and do's and don'ts.
		
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			Aisha radhiallahu ta'ala Anha,
		
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			and when we say radhiallahu ta'ala Anha
		
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			Radiallahu Anha, what we're saying is may God
		
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			be pleased with her. Right? It's just a
		
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			way of
		
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			sending kind of a deference respect
		
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			to this generation, the companions, the prophet of
		
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			God,
		
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			you know, when we talk about them.
		
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			She has another narration that she narrates where
		
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			she says,
		
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			you know, if the first verses that were
		
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			revealed
		
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			were all about, like, do this and don't
		
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			do that, no one would have become Muslim.
		
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			But the first verses revealed
		
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			talked about God and his oneness and afterlife
		
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			as a purposeful means to kind of wean
		
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			people towards religion because the theology is the
		
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			base of the practice and the ritual.
		
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			So what you see is all of these
		
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			companions who over the course of these 23
		
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			years,
		
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			they're
		
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			becoming Muslim
		
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			and they're making mistakes.
		
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			Just like you and I make mistakes because
		
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			the religion is not about the pursuit of
		
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			perfection.
		
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			We have to actually have a pursuit that
		
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			is willing to understand
		
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			that
		
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			you can still be recipient of God's mercy
		
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			and love
		
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			as well as like love yourself in a
		
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			healthy way, not an egotistical way,
		
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			both through a recognition of what you do
		
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			well and what you have the ability to
		
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			improve upon. Right? And you don't try to
		
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			hide or move away
		
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			from things that are quote unquote
		
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			shortcomings or imperfections.
		
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			Do you see what I mean?
		
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			And so the companions as a generation weren't
		
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			just good because they did everything good. They
		
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			were good because they knew how to get
		
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			back on their feet after they fell down,
		
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			and they helped each other get back up.
		
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			And there's companions.
		
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			We have hadith. There's companions who come to
		
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			the prophet,
		
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			you know, they
		
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			drank alcohol, they committed zina, right? They're premarital
		
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			like physical intimacy, sexual relationships, Yaddasulullah,
		
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			I kissed a woman I wasn't supposed to.
		
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			A companion
		
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			gives the prophet a bottle of alcohol as
		
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			a gift. You know, he doesn't know. Right?
		
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			Like these are all things that are in
		
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			the Hadith.
		
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			People are struggling with issues around gender, class,
		
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			race. It's very tangible.
		
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			You see? And so why you want to
		
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			know who these people are and what their
		
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			actual life experience is, is because it helps
		
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			to make Islam concrete,
		
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			but also gives us an understanding that you
		
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			don't want to romanticize
		
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			generations.
		
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			You want to be able to understand
		
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			what is ideal
		
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			is in the prism still of reality. Islam
		
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			is about reality,
		
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			and these are people who they're implementing these
		
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			teachings, and they're still with their real personalities,
		
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			their characteristics,
		
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			their demeanors. Do you know what I mean?
		
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			Like, how much did the last hadith we
		
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			talked about just hit differently, You
		
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			know,
		
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			and he's talking about
		
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			You know and he's talking about these principles
		
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			of divine decree and we all come from
		
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			a common beginning.
		
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			We talk about Abdullah bin Umar who's the
		
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			son of Omid Ibn Al Khattab
		
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			who is the 2nd caliph of Islam where
		
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			Islam like grows immensely
		
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			and he doesn't want to be a political
		
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			figure or a leader.
		
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			You know, he goes in a very different
		
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			direction than his father does, right? These things
		
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			like add nuance
		
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			as we understand
		
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			these people through who they are and not
		
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			just kind of,
		
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			in this way where we know a name.
		
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			Does that make sense? Yeah. So Aisha Radiallahu
		
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			Ta'ala Anha,
		
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			she's a very interesting individual,
		
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			in that she is like one of the
		
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			more prolific scholars
		
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			of Islam,
		
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			both in terms of what we have access
		
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			to of Hadith.
		
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			She's one of the companions of the prophet
		
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			of God who narrates an abundance of Hadith
		
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			and
		
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			she also is known amongst her people
		
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			as being someone who's a great fucky like
		
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			she knows legal rulings. She knows Quran.
		
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			She knows like
		
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			all kinds of nuance points of theology,
		
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			practice, etc.
		
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			The companions, they're recorded as saying that if
		
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			somebody had a question about Islam, they didn't
		
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			know the answer to it, they go ask
		
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			Aisha Radiallahu SAW Anha.
		
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			She's a daughter of Abu Bakr, who is
		
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			the close friend,
		
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			arguably the best friend of the Prophet Muhammad
		
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			peace be upon him. And
		
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			there's a very close relationship
		
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			that the prophet
		
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			has to this entire family.
		
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			And as I was saying before,
		
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			Aisha she says that all she knew in
		
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			her home growing up was Islam, that her
		
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			parents were Muslim
		
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			because their interactions and engagement of Islam
		
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			came within the early period of Islam. The
		
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			prophet got revelation,
		
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			Khateja Radi Allahu Ta'ala Anha, his wife
		
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			was the first person to become Muslim, like,
		
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			right in the immediate. And then there was
		
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			Abu Bakr after that. Do you know? And
		
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			then you start to see kind of this
		
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			kinda movement forward, but she's growing up within
		
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			this.
		
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			There's a lot of different things that we
		
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			can say about her,
		
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			in terms of just her character, who she
		
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			is.
		
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			But
		
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			we wanna think about it from the standpoint
		
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			of accessibility
		
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			and learning
		
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			as a priority.
		
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			Quite often,
		
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			religion in and of itself just turns into
		
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			a boys club.
		
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			And Islam is very interesting in that
		
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			even our conceptualization
		
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			of God
		
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			is one that is rooted in a negative
		
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			knowledge,
		
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			that we know who Allah is by knowing
		
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			who he is not. This is a verse
		
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			of the Quran.
		
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			There's not anything that's like a likeness to
		
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			God. So anything that you would understand God
		
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			to be,
		
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			you know that he is other than that.
		
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			So
		
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			the grammar of the Quran
		
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			utilizes
		
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			a grammatical
		
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			masculine frame for the divine,
		
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			but our theology is different from other,
		
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			monotheistic
		
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			and polytheistic
		
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			traditions
		
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			in that Allah is not a gendered entity.
		
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			We don't believe in a male God.
		
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			Right? And societally,
		
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			when you are, especially in this part of
		
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			the world, bombarded by a lot of iconography
		
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			and imagery
		
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			consciously or unconsciously. And this is where there's
		
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			a paradox to decision making because when you
		
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			don't make a choice you've essentially chosen.
		
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			And when many of us don't think about
		
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			who God is,
		
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			you live in a Judeo Christian
		
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			kind of framework
		
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			that
		
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			is embedded, right? Like in a few weeks,
		
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			there's going to be all kinds of things
		
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			I was dropping my kids off to school
		
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			today. There's giant like, you know, balloon Santa
		
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			clauses
		
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			and everything else that's going around.
		
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			And, you know, you're gonna see this imagery
		
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			again and again,
		
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			that's rooted in a theology that's not just
		
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			like a grammatically masculine, but a very male,
		
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			like, centered
		
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			divine entity. God the father, God the son,
		
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			God the holy spirit.
		
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			And when you have
		
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			religion
		
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			and religious instruction
		
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			that quite often is defined and dictated now
		
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			by like a male imperative,
		
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			you're being socialized in this way
		
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			that
		
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			it starts to render this kind of impact
		
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			unconsciously.
		
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			And when we don't think about who the
		
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			divine is to us, a lot of us
		
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			conceptualize God as an angry old man in
		
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			the sky looking for a reason to punish
		
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			us. Do
		
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			you know? But Laysa Gameth Lehi Shei, there's
		
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			not anything that's like a likeness to God
		
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			and the prophet being someone who had no
		
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			role in the writing in the Quran, it
		
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			means this Quran is not written by not
		
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			only any human being, but it's not a
		
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			male
		
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			defined text.
		
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			Do you see what I mean? Like Allah
		
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			in who he tells us he is, the
		
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			he that we utilize
		
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			is not in reference to like maleness.
		
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			It's just a grammatical
		
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			context. Does that make sense?
		
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			And why is that relevant? Because you wanna
		
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			think there's this young woman, Aisha Radiallahu Ta'ala
		
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			Anha.
		
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			She is now the wife of the prophet
		
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			after the prophet Muhammad's first wife, Khatija, passes
		
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			away,
		
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			who he is married to for 25 years.
		
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			We're talking about this on Wednesday nights in
		
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			the SITO class right now. Right?
		
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			He
		
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			is now in a place where
		
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			societally at that time,
		
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			polygamy is something that is practiced,
		
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			and within Islam there's an allowance that creates
		
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			a limitation
		
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			for men
		
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			to be able to
		
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			marry up to 4 women,
		
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			where prior to men had no limit on
		
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			the number of women they can marry. Women
		
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			can marry as many men as they wanted
		
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			to marry also. Here's now where limitations came
		
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			into play, and we could talk about that
		
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			in more detail if that's an interesting thing
		
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			for people to talk about.
		
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			Where and how, though, it's relevant here is
		
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			that
		
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			every
		
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			woman that the Prophet married thereafter
		
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			was a widow or a divorcee.
		
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			In Khadija
		
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			Radiallahu Ta'ala Anha, who he was married to
		
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			and it was just the 2 of them
		
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			for that long period of time,
		
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			she also had been,
		
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			married twice before she married the prophet of
		
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			God. So Aisha
		
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			radhiallahu ta'ala Anha,
		
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			she was the
		
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			only wife of the prophet
		
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			who was never married or like
		
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			before. She wasn't divorced or widowed.
		
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			And they had a very unique bond, a
		
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			very unique relationship
		
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			that was very deeply rooted in love.
		
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			Amad bin Al As,
		
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			who,
		
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			you know, had different interactions with the Prophet
		
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			of God,
		
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			all these people just felt that the prophet
		
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			loved them more than they loved anybody else
		
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			because he was very much
		
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			focused on centering people's needs in certain ways.
		
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			And so he asks, like, Who do you
		
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			love the most?
		
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			And the prophet says to him, Aisha,
		
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			like no hesitation.
		
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			And then he says, well, then who? And
		
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			he says, Abu like her father, still denoting
		
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			a relationship to Aisha still, right, not just
		
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			kind of an independence Abu Bakr, but he
		
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			says her dad, and then he continues to
		
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			go and go and I'm gonna ask it's
		
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			like stops asking him because at some point
		
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			he was just like he's not gonna say
		
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			my name at the point, but he very
		
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			much so loves his wife.
		
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			But think about what we know in this
		
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			society, whether you were and like the Sierra
		
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			class we've been talking about, how it functions
		
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			sociologically,
		
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			how gender is like a part of the
		
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			stratification of the society.
		
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			A meccan society
		
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			is burying their daughters alive pre Islam,
		
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			right? Women cannot inherit
		
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			money. There's a lot of challenges
		
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			and this young woman
		
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			is not only like a woman, but she's
		
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			young
		
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			and she's establishing
		
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			herself authoritatively
		
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			within this society
		
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			that still has to deal with the remnants
		
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			of
		
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			an ignorance
		
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			that is very much rooted in racist, classist,
		
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			sexist
		
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			kind of mindsets.
		
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			And this isn't anything other than just objective
		
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			fact.
		
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			And so you'd wanna think about in relation
		
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			to the deep legacy our tradition has around
		
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			Islamic scholarship.
		
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			There's,
		
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			for example, a text
		
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			that was written
		
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			by a contemporary Muslim religious scholar. His name
		
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			is, sheikh Mohammed Akram Nadawi.
		
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			He's in the UK.
		
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			Habidullah.
		
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			He wrote a book called Al Muhadithat,
		
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			the female transmitters
		
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			of Hadith.
		
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			So
		
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			not just like Quran,
		
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			like interpreters
		
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			or people who know other aspects of Hadith
		
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			or various Islamic Sciences.
		
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			Just this specific
		
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			like nuanced
		
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			scholarly endeavor.
		
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			His book was 40 volumes long
		
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			and he wrote about more than 40,000
		
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			female scholars who did this one
		
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			thing
		
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			being a transmitter of Hadith. And he didn't
		
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			stop because he ran out of women to
		
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			talk about. He stopped because he was worried
		
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			nobody would read a book that was longer
		
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			than 40 volumes.
		
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			Right?
		
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			So where does the disconnect come in? Do
		
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			you know what I mean?
		
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			And to understand and recognize that we wanna
		
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			see there's gotta be shifts in certain ways
		
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			that come into play
		
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			that are not just about kind of
		
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			what we fall back on.
		
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			And when you have
		
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			like
		
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			Aisha radhiallahu ta'ala on her, very prolifically narrating
		
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			hadith to you, and she's not narrating hadith
		
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			to you that put her in a gendered
		
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			box. Do you know what I mean? She's
		
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			teaching people about everything.
		
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			Does that make sense? Right?
		
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			And she,
		
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			you know, there's
		
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			indications that she was amongst the women who
		
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			participated
		
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			in Uhud.
		
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			She plays various roles,
		
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			so there's
		
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			different times that the Quran
		
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			is giving
		
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			kind of revelation
		
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			is coming down in relation to instances in
		
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			her life.
		
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			So on one occasion, for example,
		
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			you know, she wasn't like a physically
		
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			large person.
		
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			And
		
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			when,
		
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			they would travel in caravans,
		
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			The prophet's wife would travel in what was
		
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			called a.
		
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			And so what would essentially happen is you'd
		
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			have this, like,
		
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			you have 4 people carrying this thing.
		
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			And there was like a apartment on the
		
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			top. You know, Can you picture this in
		
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			your head? And it's kinda like a little
		
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			tent.
		
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			And she didn't waste so much.
		
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			And so as they were returning from a
		
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			journey,
		
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			she had separated from the caravan
		
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			and the 4 men that were carrying
		
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			this contraption,
		
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			they couldn't really tell she wasn't in there
		
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			because not only were they
		
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			4 of them who are holding this, so
		
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			weight is displaced.
		
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			It wasn't like heavy to begin with.
		
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			One of the customs that they had at
		
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			that time
		
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			was
		
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			that when the prophet would go on a
		
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			journey, he'd leave somebody
		
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			kind of trailing the caravan
		
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			in case somebody left behind something or someone
		
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			got separated.
		
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			They would now have someone to walk back
		
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			to the city with. And so there was
		
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			a companion by the name of Safwan
		
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			Radi Allahu An, who was appointed to this
		
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			task and this instance.
		
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			And Sifuan Radiallahu an, he comes upon Aisha
		
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			who she returns back to the place of
		
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			the caravan and
		
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			is waiting knowing someone's gonna come.
		
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			He doesn't, like, really interact with her too
		
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			much because now at this point there's verses
		
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			that have been revealed,
		
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			like legalistically
		
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			around hijab and what that means in particular
		
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			for the prophet's wife and these kinds of
		
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			things.
		
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			So he recognizes her from before those days
		
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			and he simply just walks her
		
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			back.
		
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			There's a group of people
		
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			that are known as Hypocrites, the Monafiqin.
		
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			They outwardly express Islam but inwardly detest it
		
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			and they utilize this opportunity
		
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			to start gossiping.
		
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			There's a tradition is called the Hadith and
		
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			Ifq,
		
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			that speaks about this in deep detail.
		
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			And the prophet
		
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			is also instill a nascent stage in his
		
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			leadership.
		
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			And these hypocrites,
		
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			they
		
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			are speaking really poorly about the prophets wife,
		
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			but he's trying to figure out how to
		
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			manage
		
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			and
		
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			is going to do what he knows he
		
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			should do, or wait to get instruction on
		
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			how do I respond in this instance.
		
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			And
		
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			for a month's time now, they're going through
		
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			this. And eventually, like, the 2 of them
		
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			are in different homes,
		
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			as they're trying to figure out what needs
		
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			to get done. You can imagine like the
		
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			toll this is taking, right? Like, if you've
		
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			ever been in a place where somebody has
		
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			gossiped about you, you know, it's not like
		
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			a easy thing to go through. Right? I'm
		
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			sorry if that's ever happened. That's why it's
		
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			like a big deal in our tradition
		
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			that if you gossip,
		
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			you know, the kind of recompense for it
		
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			is that you get sin for gossiping like
		
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			and your good deeds, anything good that you
		
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			do, they get transferred to the person that
		
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			you're speaking poorly about,
		
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			you know,
		
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			because it can really ruin people's lives. Do
		
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			you know what I mean? And if you
		
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			gossip about people, you should not be doing
		
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			this. It's like a really terrible thing. Do
		
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			you know? And if the base of your
		
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			relationship
		
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			is speaking poorly about others or speaking about
		
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			others behind their back,
		
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			you'd wanna probably reconcile that a bit because
		
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			there's consequences to it, worldly and otherworldly.
		
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			We could also talk about more.
		
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			So essentially, like Aisha Radi Allahu Taanha, she
		
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			just bears like her patience, you know,
		
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			People encourage her just, like, seek forgiveness, apologize.
		
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			She's like, I didn't do anything.
		
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			So what am I apologizing for? And she
		
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			says to them, my response to you will
		
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			be the response
		
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			that
		
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			Yaqub Ali Salam
		
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			Jacob,
		
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			he the father of Yusuf Alai Salam Joseph
		
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			said when his son was cast into the
		
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			well, that I put my trust in Allah
		
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			and Allah is sufficient for me. He is
		
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			the best disposer of affairs.
		
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			I know God's got my back.
		
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			And so there's a revelation that comes down
		
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			in a chapter called Surat An Nur,
		
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			chapter of the light that exonerates
		
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			Aisha Radi Allahu Ta'ala Anha.
		
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			And her father who says Abu Bakr is
		
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			the prophet's best friend, she said go
		
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			and, you know, like express this appreciation and
		
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			gratitude like you can, you know, and she's
		
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			like I'm only thanking God
		
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			because God is the one that set this
		
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			record right. You see? And so whenever people
		
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			are reciting these verses from Surat Anur
		
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			they are recounting
		
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			this instance
		
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			where, like,
		
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			dumb people gossiped
		
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			about a woman
		
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			and God demonstrates
		
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			he's always on the side of the woman
		
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			who's being abused,
		
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			never on the side of the abuser.
		
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			Does it make sense?
		
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			Another instance,
		
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			they are
		
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			again traveling
		
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			and Aisha Radi Allahu Ta'ala Anha loses her
		
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			necklace.
		
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			The prophet says like we got to find
		
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			her necklace, they're spending some time looking for
		
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			it and the day is getting delayed, the
		
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			caravan is getting delayed
		
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			and the time for prayer comes upon them.
		
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			The prophet is asleep in Aisha's lap.
		
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			Abu Bakr, he comes and he starts like
		
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			getting upset with his daughter. You know, if
		
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			you had a dad, right, that does this
		
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			to you, or maybe even your mom, you
		
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			know, like, this is all your fault. Like
		
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			what you do? We're all late because of
		
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			you. Right? Like, it's very tangible, real experience.
		
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			Do you know what I mean? It's young
		
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			woman's
		
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			husband sleep in her lap. The dad is
		
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			like soft yelling at her. So not like
		
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			yelling loudly. He's not trying to wake up
		
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			the prophet, but he's like, we're gonna be
		
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			late. All these people are delayed. Like, what's
		
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			wrong with you?
		
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			And the prayer time is coming in.
		
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			So
		
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			the
		
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			verses of tayamum get revealed
		
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			in this instance because there's not any water
		
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			to make will do. Right? If you don't
		
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			know what I'm talking about, like when we
		
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			have our regular prayers,
		
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			we wash up before we pray
		
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			in a ritual practice called will do and
		
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			you can maintain that state of ritual purity.
		
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			Like for the whole day pretty much unless
		
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			you, like, use the bathroom, take, like, a
		
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			long period of sleep, these kinds of things,
		
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			they have to redo it.
		
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			And if there's no water within
		
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			a kinda certain distance,
		
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			you can use, like, clean earth in a
		
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			variation of this. And so these verses are
		
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			revealed at this time around Tiammum
		
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			in this scenario.
		
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			And once it's revealed, the prophet says, like,
		
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			to Abu Bakr and Aisha and their friend,
		
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			like, rejoice to your family.
		
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			You know, you become, again, like a means
		
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			of benefit
		
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			for people.
		
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			Abu Bakr is now really happy because he's
		
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			like, yeah, look at what we did. Right?
		
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			But again,
		
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			like, I
		
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			plays a role in relation to actual like
		
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			a revelation. Do you see what I mean?
		
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			Surah Noor exonerates her like she is a
		
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			part of this experience
		
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			with Tayam mum. There's more things that we
		
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			can talk about in relation to her.
		
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			This hadith
		
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			calls her,
		
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			Abdullah,
		
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			right, the mother of Abdullah.
		
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			The prophet doesn't have any children with Aisha.
		
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			His surviving children are from his marriage to
		
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			Khadija Radiallahu Ta'ala Anha. And he has many
		
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			children who pass away also
		
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			in very infant stages of their life.
		
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			And so
		
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			you have like this,
		
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			kind of
		
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			tradition where people are given,
		
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			what's called a Cunha.
		
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			You know,
		
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			you are like the father of someone or
		
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			the mother of someone. Do you know what
		
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			I mean?
		
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			Usually after the firstborn child,
		
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			you know, I have a friend,
		
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			like, if you guys know Sheikh, Amar Ashukri,
		
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			who's come here, he's the only person in
		
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			the world that calls me Abu Medina because
		
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			my daughter
		
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			is Medina, and he's, like, really trying hard
		
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			to get people to call me this. And,
		
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			like, it's not gonna work. You know? Nobody
		
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			everyone calls me Khalid. I'm the father of
		
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			Medina.
		
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			You know?
		
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			And so
		
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			when people try to explain, well, why is
		
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			she called Abdullah?
		
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			She doesn't have any kids.
		
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			So there's 2 explanations given. 1,
		
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			that she actually had a child and unfortunately,
		
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			in a pregnancy miscarried,
		
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			which is something that happened,
		
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			right, 14 centuries ago. We were trying to
		
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			think out just kinda health care and what
		
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			that looks like, etcetera.
		
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			But the other explanation is that she asked
		
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			the prophet, peace be upon him, She says
		
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			like, I want to have this kind of
		
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			nickname. Do you know?
		
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			And so
		
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			her nephew
		
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			is Abdullah.
		
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			Abdullah is the son of her sister Asma.
		
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			And so the prophet says like you be
		
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			named like Abdullah.
		
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			The Prophet had like a lot of nicknames
		
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			for a lot of his companions and friends.
		
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			They weren't just like Abu, the father of
		
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			or the mother of. It's not even like
		
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			a nickname type thing.
		
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			But
		
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			he used to call Aisha in some of
		
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			the, like, narrations we're taught, he would call
		
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			her just like Aish,
		
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			you know, out of kind of love and
		
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			endearment.
		
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			She's known as Siddiqah.
		
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			Right? There's other names that we know her
		
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			to be of.
		
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			There was a certain endearment that's there
		
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			when you have that proximity to someone
		
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			that you're able to give them a special
		
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			name or, you know, you call them something
		
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			uniquely
		
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			in that way.
		
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			The other thing that's introduced here
		
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			is a title that's reserved particularly
		
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			for the women who are married to the
		
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			prophet of God, peace be upon them.
		
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			They're called Umul Mopminin.
		
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			Right?
		
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			The
		
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			the mother
		
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			of the believers is what she's referred to
		
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			as here.
		
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			It's just to give, like, even that much
		
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			more deference and respect
		
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			that
		
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			there's a certain sanctity to this bond and
		
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			love.
		
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			That's not kind of familial
		
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			in the way that one might assume,
		
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			but to show
		
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			that there's still like a respect that's there.
		
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			Do you know what I mean? These are
		
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			people
		
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			who play a very pivotal and special role,
		
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			and especially
		
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			within, like, the Sunni tradition of Islam.
		
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			The deference that's given
		
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			is something that's really, really important,
		
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			you know. So
		
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			in this
		
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			notion that these are considered to be like
		
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			a unique group of women who
		
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			are
		
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			poised
		
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			to give us insight, but also are representative,
		
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			in their own right to being people who
		
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			are exemplary
		
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			for all Muslims,
		
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			in order to kinda take and learn from
		
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			them.
		
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			There's instances
		
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			where Aisha
		
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			Radi Allahu Ta'ala Anha like argues with companions,
		
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			you know, Abu Herrera
		
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			speaks about
		
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			what invalidates
		
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			a prayer, for example, and he says, if
		
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			like this thing walks in front of you
		
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			or this walks in front of you, and
		
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			at one point he says, if a woman
		
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			walks in front of you in prayer
		
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			and I shadow the load on us, like,
		
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			that's not a thing.
		
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			Do you know?
		
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			And again, you want to just try to
		
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			contextualize this. Do you know what I mean?
		
00:37:48 --> 00:37:50
			Right? Think about how many spaces you go
		
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			into.
		
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			Right? It's not to knock anybody, but just
		
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			think about like, where in Muslim spaces, it's
		
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			like very overtly separated,
		
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			but there's no access point
		
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			for women
		
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			to religious leadership. There's not a hiring
		
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			of, like, the equivalent of a female religious
		
00:38:07 --> 00:38:09
			scholar or female religious scholar herself,
		
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			let alone sometimes spaces. Do you know?
		
00:38:13 --> 00:38:17
			So here the notion isn't like a quietude
		
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			within our religion that creates a disparity,
		
00:38:22 --> 00:38:25
			across genders. Right? Aisha Radiallahu Ta'ala on her,
		
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			she's speaking up because she knows. Do you
		
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			know what I mean? And nobody's telling her
		
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			like you don't talk when men are talking.
		
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			Do you see?
		
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			She roots herself in a knowledge base
		
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			that becomes critical for the development
		
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			of all of Islam. There's scholars of Islam's
		
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			legal tradition
		
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			that come after the prophets
		
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			like time
		
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			who say a 4th of all legal rulings
		
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			come to us through Aisha Radiallahu Ta'ala Anha.
		
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			You know, she plays a very pivotal role
		
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			in the development of Islam legislatively.
		
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			Right? And all of these things get embodied
		
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			in understanding
		
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			when we're looking at these Hadith.
		
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			We don't want to look at them through
		
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			the prism of this is just a name
		
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			and a character. It's in a person who
		
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			lived and lived in a time and in
		
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			a place where they had to play a
		
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			certain role, right?
		
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			You imagine what it's like everybody knows you
		
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			are the wife of the messenger of God,
		
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			and your father is the first caliph of
		
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			Islam.
		
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			She after the passing of the prophet,
		
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			she says, you know, there were like 3
		
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			favors she had that no one else had,
		
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			that when the prophet passes,
		
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			he passes away in her house,
		
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			laying down on her chest
		
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			with her saliva in his mouth, referring to
		
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			how he was very sick when he was
		
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			at his later stage. And in order for
		
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			him to eat, she had to like kind
		
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			of chew the food down and kind of
		
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			help him to consume
		
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			what it was that he was
		
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			eating. And if you remember that hadith that
		
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			came before this that we just looked at
		
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			hadith number 4, the last part of that
		
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			hadith talks about in reference to like, what's
		
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			happening to you at the end of your
		
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			life,
		
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			right? You know, manmata Allah shay, both at
		
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			a day, whosoever dies upon a thing is
		
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			resurrected upon that thing. And when the prophet
		
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			is in his last moments in this world,
		
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			his last breaths are literally
		
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			in the lap of this woman,
		
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			you know,
		
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			and he could have gone in any state
		
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			he wanted to. And Islamic theology posits
		
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			around the death of a prophet differently than
		
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			a person who's a not prophet,
		
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			and that the prophets can determine,
		
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			you know, when they want to leave.
		
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			Right? You and I, the angels of death
		
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			come, we just get we can't say no.
		
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			Right? But a prophet can,
		
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			like,
		
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			play a role in this saying, I still
		
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			want to stay. I'm not ready to go.
		
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			So he chooses to leave this world
		
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			like in the lap of his beloved wife.
		
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			You know, it's a really beautiful thing.
		
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			But she understands this,
		
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			in terms of
		
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			also just like the unique blessings that she
		
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			has.
		
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			Over the course of now the years that
		
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			come after his passing,
		
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			so I sell them.
		
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			There's a lot of different things that we
		
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			won't have the time to go into, but
		
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			authority
		
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			becomes now a divisive
		
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			like
		
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			metric within Muslims that are coming after the
		
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			prophet's passing.
		
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			And there's still like respect and deference that's
		
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			given
		
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			to the mothers of the believers,
		
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			Aisha in particular.
		
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			If you want to read about it,
		
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			there
		
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			are actual, like, internal civil wars that take
		
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			place intra like Muslim community.
		
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			There's a battle called the Battle of Saffin,
		
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			the Battle of the Camel, that you could
		
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			read about some of these things. But after
		
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			a certain point, she just kind of takes
		
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			a step back away from things that are
		
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			political.
		
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			And she passes away from the world at
		
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			about 67 years of age.
		
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			But a lot of what we have
		
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			in terms of access
		
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			to not just like information,
		
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			but insight
		
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			comes from her as a person.
		
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			You want to think just how remarkable this
		
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			is,
		
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			given like some of the odds that she's
		
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			going against. Because you you gotta think right?
		
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			Also through this, like what her personality
		
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			must be
		
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			that,
		
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			like,
		
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			she's married to the messenger of God. Do
		
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			you know what I'm saying?
		
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			So
		
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			where and how there's that much more importance
		
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			to how she conveys things,
		
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			but she takes it seriously. There's like a
		
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			sincerity and dedication that's there. Does that make
		
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			sense?
		
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			So this is who's narrating this hadith,
		
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			Aisha Radiallahu ta'ala Anha,
		
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			the mother of the believers.
		
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			And so she says in this hadith,
		
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			that he who,
		
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			essentially innovate something in this matter of ours,
		
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			meaning Islam,
		
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			that
		
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			is not of it will have it rejected.
		
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			Right? It'll be kind of refused, pushed away.
		
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			And so it's talking about a very particular
		
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			topic.
		
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			It's called in Arabic bida,
		
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			in innovation.
		
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			Right? And if you weren't here at the
		
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			beginning
		
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			of our discussion,
		
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			the opposite of the word bidah is sunnah,
		
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			right? Sunnah
		
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			refers to the authoritative example of any individual.
		
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			But in this context, in the more technical
		
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			kind of references
		
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			refer to the authoritative
		
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			example of the prophet Mohammed, peace and blessings
		
00:43:52 --> 00:43:53
			be upon him.
		
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			And so here,
		
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			we're gonna kind of talk about these 2
		
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			things conceptually.
		
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			But what I'd like for you to do
		
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			just because I know I was talking a
		
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			lot about who Aisha Radi Allahu Ta'ala Anaha
		
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			is,
		
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			why do you think this is like something
		
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			that gets rejected?
		
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			The idea of an innovation,
		
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			if we were to give it a baseline
		
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			definition
		
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			as something that is, like, added
		
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			after,
		
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			like, the establishment of the religion. Do you
		
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			know? Whatever it is that that thing might
		
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			be, you know, we could talk about with
		
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			a little bit of nuance.
		
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			But why is there this kind of definitive
		
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			kind of sense that
		
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			something that innovates
		
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			in this
		
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			is just by default something that's going to
		
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			be pushed away.
		
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			You know, that it's something that has no
		
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			place.
		
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			If you could turn to the persons next
		
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			to you, just so we can kinda get
		
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			going in, you know, getting our, like, own
		
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			thought processes going.
		
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			Why is this something
		
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			that is rejected, this idea
		
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			of adding to the religion?
		
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			Then we'll come back and discuss.
		
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			You know, but what are your thoughts on
		
00:45:08 --> 00:45:10
			some of this just at a first glance?
		
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			And then we'll come back and discuss. If
		
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			you don't know the people sitting next to
		
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			you, just introduce yourselves.
		
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			If you haven't been, like, in this type
		
00:45:17 --> 00:45:18
			of conversation before,
		
00:45:19 --> 00:45:21
			the goal isn't to like tell somebody
		
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			like why they are wrong and you are
		
00:45:24 --> 00:45:26
			right, right? Just listen to each other, share
		
00:45:26 --> 00:45:28
			ideas and thoughts you want to get comfortable
		
00:45:28 --> 00:45:31
			in expressing around, like, concepts of religion,
		
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			and then we'll come back and and talk
		
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			about it just in a few minutes, but
		
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			go ahead. Yeah.
		
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			Okay.
		
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			So what do we think? Like, why is
		
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			this
		
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			such an important thing?
		
00:52:46 --> 00:52:48
			What is it that this is really kind
		
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			of bringing what's what's it bringing up for
		
00:52:50 --> 00:52:52
			people? What do you think? What's the hadith
		
00:52:52 --> 00:52:53
			trying to convey?
		
00:52:53 --> 00:52:54
			Or what is it conveying?
		
00:52:56 --> 00:52:57
			What do we discuss?
		
00:52:59 --> 00:52:59
			Yeah.
		
00:53:00 --> 00:53:02
			So, like, in Islam, one of the things
		
00:53:02 --> 00:53:05
			is about, like, prioritizing things part
		
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			of
		
00:53:09 --> 00:53:10
			it
		
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			that could be rejected is because,
		
00:53:14 --> 00:53:16
			part of it that could be rejected is
		
00:53:16 --> 00:53:16
			because,
		
00:53:18 --> 00:53:20
			it's not because, like, it's just fear in
		
00:53:20 --> 00:53:22
			people. It's a reminder that
		
00:53:22 --> 00:53:24
			don't reshuffle the priorities
		
00:53:24 --> 00:53:26
			as they're set forth by.
		
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			So there's, like, a foundation practice in Islam,
		
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			5 prayers, like, the foundation belief,
		
00:53:32 --> 00:53:33
			the foundation practices,
		
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			foundation principles.
		
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			And then based on those things, I, you
		
00:53:38 --> 00:53:40
			know, scholars have discussed, debated
		
00:53:40 --> 00:53:44
			what's permissible, what's not. But the idea is
		
00:53:44 --> 00:53:44
			that
		
00:53:45 --> 00:53:47
			I think that the reason why there is
		
00:53:47 --> 00:53:49
			this, reminder in the hadith and, like, this
		
00:53:50 --> 00:53:52
			idea keeps coming up is so that we're
		
00:53:52 --> 00:53:53
			still,
		
00:53:54 --> 00:53:56
			yeah, we're still grounded in the
		
00:53:57 --> 00:53:58
			priorities
		
00:53:59 --> 00:54:01
			that are then the process of settlement has
		
00:54:01 --> 00:54:02
			to set forth for us. Like, we don't
		
00:54:02 --> 00:54:05
			reshuffle those rates. Like, some new matter comes
		
00:54:05 --> 00:54:06
			in and if it was, like, free for
		
00:54:06 --> 00:54:08
			all and you could bring in whatever you
		
00:54:08 --> 00:54:09
			wanted it because you thought it was
		
00:54:10 --> 00:54:11
			a it was a good thing for the
		
00:54:11 --> 00:54:12
			religion, then
		
00:54:12 --> 00:54:13
			it would have diluted,
		
00:54:16 --> 00:54:18
			the, kind of, the standard practice that,
		
00:54:19 --> 00:54:21
			connects all of us. Or, like, the dean
		
00:54:21 --> 00:54:24
			would have been jeopardized in some way. Like,
		
00:54:24 --> 00:54:25
			maybe the
		
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			the idea of a community and the community
		
00:54:27 --> 00:54:28
			practice would have been
		
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			But this hadith is saying something particular,
		
00:54:32 --> 00:54:33
			right?
		
00:54:33 --> 00:54:35
			Like it's saying, if you do x, then
		
00:54:35 --> 00:54:37
			y, do you know?
		
00:54:38 --> 00:54:40
			So it's saying like, if you do this
		
00:54:40 --> 00:54:41
			thing, what is it what is it saying?
		
00:54:42 --> 00:54:44
			What happens if you do this thing? What
		
00:54:44 --> 00:54:46
			is the hadith telling us?
		
00:54:46 --> 00:54:49
			It's not part of Islam. Uh-huh. If you
		
00:54:49 --> 00:54:51
			add something new to it, it's not part
		
00:54:51 --> 00:54:52
			of Islam. Like, it's just not part of
		
00:54:52 --> 00:54:53
			Islam.
		
00:54:53 --> 00:54:55
			Yeah. But what so what does that mean?
		
00:54:55 --> 00:54:58
			It changes the book or the word of
		
00:54:58 --> 00:55:00
			love? No. But it's reject like, it's it's
		
00:55:00 --> 00:55:01
			to to the individual.
		
00:55:02 --> 00:55:05
			Right? So the individual, like, I'm coming in
		
00:55:05 --> 00:55:06
			and I say to you,
		
00:55:07 --> 00:55:08
			like, we used to have a lot of
		
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			kids that would go to school here before
		
00:55:10 --> 00:55:12
			this place got really big with a number
		
00:55:12 --> 00:55:12
			of people.
		
00:55:13 --> 00:55:14
			Was just a lot of students,
		
00:55:15 --> 00:55:17
			and we were in, like, the church that
		
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			was here before this building and the church
		
00:55:18 --> 00:55:20
			basement over there. A lot of people used
		
00:55:20 --> 00:55:22
			to do impressions of me. There's this one
		
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			kid
		
00:55:23 --> 00:55:26
			who was, like, spot on on his impressions,
		
00:55:26 --> 00:55:28
			and he was a upperclassman,
		
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			and he called this 1st year student.
		
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			And
		
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			he said, come to the Islamic Center. I
		
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			need you to, like, mop the floors right
		
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			now. And the kid didn't know what to
		
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			do because he thought it was me. And
		
00:55:39 --> 00:55:42
			then he also told the kid there's now
		
00:55:42 --> 00:55:44
			7 prayers in the day, right. And the
		
00:55:44 --> 00:55:46
			kid also didn't know what to say, right.
		
00:55:47 --> 00:55:49
			There's not 7 prayers in it. We have
		
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			5, like, obligatory prayers.
		
00:55:53 --> 00:55:54
			Right? I can't add
		
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			2 extra prayers.
		
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			This kid who's impersonating me, he was trying
		
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			to make a joke to this kid who
		
00:55:59 --> 00:56:01
			was freaked out. Right? They didn't know what
		
00:56:01 --> 00:56:03
			to do. But
		
00:56:04 --> 00:56:06
			if I was to suddenly say
		
00:56:06 --> 00:56:08
			I'm going to start praying
		
00:56:09 --> 00:56:11
			not like recommended prayers, extra prayers,
		
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			but if there's 5 obligatory that are established
		
00:56:15 --> 00:56:17
			and I say I'm going to start doing
		
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			7 as obligations,
		
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			what's the Hadid saying consequently
		
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			will happen with the 2 that I am
		
00:56:24 --> 00:56:25
			not
		
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			like, I'm just adding on?
		
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			Rejected.
		
00:56:29 --> 00:56:31
			It's rejected. Meaning what? Like, what does that
		
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			mean?
		
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			Added on to the the part of it.
		
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			But there's no point to it. Do you
		
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			know what I'm saying? It's not like an
		
00:56:42 --> 00:56:44
			extra credit assignment. You know? Like, I teach
		
00:56:44 --> 00:56:47
			classes here. Some of your students here. Right?
		
00:56:47 --> 00:56:49
			Like I have students. I don't know why.
		
00:56:49 --> 00:56:52
			They just don't do their work, you know,
		
00:56:52 --> 00:56:53
			and I get it. But then at the
		
00:56:53 --> 00:56:55
			end of the semester or like a semester
		
00:56:55 --> 00:56:58
			later, I don't understand why I got, you
		
00:56:58 --> 00:56:59
			know, this grade in your class and I
		
00:56:59 --> 00:57:02
			look up their attendance and their grades. And
		
00:57:02 --> 00:57:04
			out of 14 classes, I'm like, you attended
		
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			6 classes
		
00:57:06 --> 00:57:08
			and you wrote like 8 of the weekly
		
00:57:08 --> 00:57:11
			reflection papers out of 16. That's why you
		
00:57:11 --> 00:57:12
			got the grade that you got. Do you
		
00:57:12 --> 00:57:13
			know what I mean?
		
00:57:13 --> 00:57:15
			They can have an opportunity to do something
		
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			extra to contribute
		
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			to what it is that their overall grade
		
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			will get impacted by. But that's different than
		
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			you, like, praying in the middle of the
		
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			night in Ramadan.
		
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			You can do that if you'd like to.
		
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			You can read Quran,
		
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			like when, you know, you decide to read
		
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			Quran. You give in extra charity and volunteerism
		
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			and this other kind of stuff.
		
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			And the idea is that potentially
		
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			it will be accepted.
		
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			The notion of something being rejected
		
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			has to be understood consequently
		
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			with its opposite, which is accepted.
		
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			And the acceptance of it, if you remember
		
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			the Hadith we talked about before,
		
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			the only thing you take from this worldly
		
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			existence,
		
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			this is a world of actions and deeds,
		
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			and all you take from here, you don't
		
00:58:04 --> 00:58:05
			take any of this stuff.
		
00:58:05 --> 00:58:07
			Right? You're not taking the clothes. You're not
		
00:58:07 --> 00:58:09
			taking the cars, whatever else.
		
00:58:10 --> 00:58:11
			You take what you do.
		
00:58:12 --> 00:58:12
			So
		
00:58:13 --> 00:58:14
			why do something
		
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			that off the bat you're already told
		
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			there's no room for it to be accepted?
		
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			It's just already in a place where
		
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			there's no point.
		
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			Forget about the arguments you're making. Forget about,
		
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			like, the basis of why you want to
		
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			do it. What it makes you feel like
		
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			doing.
		
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			It's not gonna do anything for you.
		
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			And
		
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			the doing
		
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			for you is rooted not in what I
		
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			believe,
		
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			but where I'm yielding now
		
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			to something that's much bigger than me in
		
00:58:47 --> 00:58:49
			a God conscious mode of existence.
		
00:58:52 --> 00:58:53
			Historically speaking,
		
00:58:54 --> 00:58:55
			you have
		
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			an innumerable amount of religious traditions
		
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			that you can look
		
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			at do not exist in the original form
		
00:59:02 --> 00:59:04
			of what they were.
		
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			And this is a challenge that comes up
		
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			even during the time of the prophet Muhammad,
		
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			peace be upon him. There's a lot of
		
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			religions
		
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			that no longer
		
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			are what they were prior to that time.
		
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			And where you can read text, right, if
		
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			you're into this kind of stuff, you can
		
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			read a book by Weber on the sociology
		
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			of religion that talks about like how characteristics
		
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			like charisma become a really important part to
		
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			building community.
		
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			But where ritual and practice gets changed
		
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			and people start to now remove it in
		
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			order to create more entertainment
		
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			to kinda just hold people
		
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			within their respective congregations,
		
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			they start to change like what religion says
		
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			to meet the needs of a demographic
		
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			that no longer want to adhere to what
		
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			religion says. Do you know?
		
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			In our tradition, for example,
		
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			the mandate of 5 daily prayers
		
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			comes from,
		
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			the
		
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			prophet getting advice from Moses.
		
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			Right? There's a journey called the Isra and
		
01:00:10 --> 01:00:10
			Mehraj,
		
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			and the prophet goes from his home to
		
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			the city of Jerusalem
		
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			where he prays with every prophet of God
		
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			in an act of just kinda collegiality.
		
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			So every messenger, a 125,000
		
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			prophets sent to mankind, the prophet prays with
		
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			them and then ascends
		
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			into the heavens
		
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			on this very vividly described, like, journey
		
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			in these narrations. You could look it up,
		
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			Isra and Mehraj. And one of the things
		
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			that happens
		
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			is he ascends through the levels of heaven
		
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			where he meets a different prophet
		
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			and right before he gets to the highest
		
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			point,
		
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			he interacts with Moses, peace be upon him.
		
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			And then he goes and he engages
		
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			in conversation with Allah in whatever capacity that
		
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			transpires, right? It's not a religion
		
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			that yields to anthropomorphic
		
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			thoughts and ideals.
		
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			Then he comes back down
		
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			and Musa, alayhis salaam, Moses, peace be upon
		
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			him, says, what happened?
		
01:01:09 --> 01:01:09
			And he says,
		
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			Allah told me 50 prayers for my community
		
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			and Moses says, go back. They're not gonna
		
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			do 50. My people didn't do what they
		
01:01:17 --> 01:01:19
			were supposed to do. Your people are not
		
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			gonna do what they're supposed to do. And
		
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			so they go back and forth and back
		
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			and forth until 50 goes to 5. And,
		
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			you know, it said that, you know, it
		
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			will be 5 but written as if you
		
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			did 50. Right? And this is like the
		
01:01:31 --> 01:01:32
			notion,
		
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			like, we were made to do 50.
		
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			We're just doing 5.
		
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			Right?
		
01:01:38 --> 01:01:41
			And even at 5, Musa, alayhis salaam tells
		
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			the prophet Mohammed, peace be upon them both,
		
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			that go back again. They're not gonna do
		
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			it. Do you see what I mean? Right?
		
01:01:49 --> 01:01:50
			But the not doing,
		
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			the inaction
		
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			in and of itself also
		
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			can be a part of innovative practice
		
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			depending on the intentionality
		
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			through which one is saying, I'm not gonna
		
01:02:01 --> 01:02:04
			do this thing. Right? As much as adding
		
01:02:04 --> 01:02:05
			to
		
01:02:05 --> 01:02:08
			can be a tangible thing. We will now
		
01:02:08 --> 01:02:09
			have, like,
		
01:02:09 --> 01:02:13
			4 rakas at Maghrib instead of 3. Right?
		
01:02:13 --> 01:02:15
			Is just as problematic as saying
		
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			prayer is not an obligation in Islam.
		
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			If you're changing the categorization
		
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			of it, you're making what's
		
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			definitively
		
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			established
		
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			in certain categories to not be what those
		
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			things are. There's a lot of different opinions
		
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			on things that have textual basis, but it's
		
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			not I think I feel I want. It's
		
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			not a religion
		
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			that is other than anything about submission to
		
01:02:40 --> 01:02:43
			God And when you now make God submissive
		
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			to you, it's like the opposite of what
		
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			the religion is. Do you know? It's a
		
01:02:47 --> 01:02:49
			religion that's gonna assume you're gonna have struggles.
		
01:02:49 --> 01:02:51
			You're gonna have challenges. You're not supposed to
		
01:02:51 --> 01:02:54
			be perfect. That's the whole idea. Right? It's
		
01:02:54 --> 01:02:55
			gonna be hard at certain times. So it's
		
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			a god centric religion.
		
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			But from just the standpoint
		
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			of
		
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			utility of time,
		
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			if you buy into what we were talking
		
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			about in the previous hadith
		
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			that talks about this journey of a soul
		
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			and you're gonna stand in front of God
		
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			in the day of judgment and eternality
		
01:03:12 --> 01:03:13
			or hereafter,
		
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			like, don't do things that'll have no point
		
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			to them.
		
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			They're not gonna necessarily yield anything
		
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			that is of benefit
		
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			in these ways.
		
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			Why do you think
		
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			somebody might start to
		
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			innovate in their own religious experience?
		
01:03:33 --> 01:03:35
			Like what can be a catalyst or a
		
01:03:35 --> 01:03:37
			cause of some of these things, right? And
		
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			we don't want to think about this. The
		
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			notion here is also not to create like
		
01:03:43 --> 01:03:46
			elevation of the self by denigrating somebody else,
		
01:03:46 --> 01:03:47
			right? This is not a religion.
		
01:03:48 --> 01:03:50
			The hadith says that even if you have
		
01:03:50 --> 01:03:52
			a mustard seed worth of arrogance in your
		
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			heart, like, it's gonna prevent you from going
		
01:03:54 --> 01:03:56
			to heaven. Right? May Allah protect us from
		
01:03:56 --> 01:03:58
			it. So you wanna look down at people.
		
01:03:58 --> 01:04:00
			You wanna just think objectively.
		
01:04:00 --> 01:04:02
			Right? Why do people do this?
		
01:04:03 --> 01:04:04
			Where did it like the kinda,
		
01:04:05 --> 01:04:08
			you know, blanks get filled in certain ways
		
01:04:08 --> 01:04:10
			so that we can understand for ourselves too.
		
01:04:10 --> 01:04:13
			Like, what's like the root and basis of
		
01:04:13 --> 01:04:14
			this? Do you know what I mean?
		
01:04:15 --> 01:04:18
			As you're thinking about that, like understanding here,
		
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			when you have a very
		
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			low bar of entry in Islam, there's not
		
01:04:23 --> 01:04:25
			a lot of obligations, a lot of prohibition.
		
01:04:25 --> 01:04:27
			Everybody doesn't have to be this, like, super
		
01:04:27 --> 01:04:30
			Muslim on steroids, the way the world sometimes
		
01:04:30 --> 01:04:32
			makes us feel like we have to. You
		
01:04:32 --> 01:04:35
			can just be like a Muslim here. You
		
01:04:35 --> 01:04:37
			don't have to be Muslim up here. You
		
01:04:37 --> 01:04:39
			want to work to your potential definitively,
		
01:04:40 --> 01:04:42
			but that's different for each and every single
		
01:04:42 --> 01:04:43
			one of us. Do you know?
		
01:04:44 --> 01:04:47
			But when we're talking about ritual and practice
		
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			in Islam,
		
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			it's understood that these are time tested
		
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			spiritual exercises
		
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			that have
		
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			divine
		
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			crafting to them,
		
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			And they don't have to be changed in
		
01:05:02 --> 01:05:05
			any way. When executed upon in the ways
		
01:05:05 --> 01:05:08
			that they're intended to be executed upon,
		
01:05:08 --> 01:05:11
			even if you're struggling with it, the struggle
		
01:05:11 --> 01:05:14
			adds more benefit to the person who struggles
		
01:05:14 --> 01:05:16
			in their practice of it than the one
		
01:05:16 --> 01:05:18
			who could do it fluidly. Right? We have
		
01:05:18 --> 01:05:20
			hadith that say the person who, like, struggles
		
01:05:20 --> 01:05:22
			with reading the Quran
		
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			is getting more reward than the person who
		
01:05:24 --> 01:05:26
			does not struggle with the recitation of the
		
01:05:26 --> 01:05:28
			Quran. The idea is not perfection.
		
01:05:28 --> 01:05:30
			The idea is
		
01:05:30 --> 01:05:33
			to yield to what God says is best.
		
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			And here now, like, this is the way
		
01:05:37 --> 01:05:39
			we pray because this is how God said
		
01:05:39 --> 01:05:40
			to pray to God.
		
01:05:41 --> 01:05:44
			Right? This is what we eat. This is
		
01:05:44 --> 01:05:44
			how we
		
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			dress. This is what we don't eat. This
		
01:05:47 --> 01:05:50
			is like language we use. We don't gossip
		
01:05:50 --> 01:05:52
			because God said don't gossip. Right?
		
01:05:55 --> 01:05:57
			Right? That woe be to the person who
		
01:05:57 --> 01:06:00
			slanders and tale bears. So somebody's like, you
		
01:06:00 --> 01:06:02
			know what? I think in Islam,
		
01:06:03 --> 01:06:07
			gossiping is actually like a meritorious act. Right?
		
01:06:07 --> 01:06:10
			Like, what religion do you practice, dude? That's
		
01:06:10 --> 01:06:12
			not what this religion is about. Do you
		
01:06:12 --> 01:06:14
			know? I make justifications
		
01:06:14 --> 01:06:16
			for certain things. Do you see what I
		
01:06:16 --> 01:06:17
			mean?
		
01:06:17 --> 01:06:19
			I get this a lot with couples that
		
01:06:19 --> 01:06:21
			come to see me who
		
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			are interested in getting married. You can't control
		
01:06:24 --> 01:06:26
			who you fall in love with. Do you
		
01:06:26 --> 01:06:28
			know? And sometimes I wanna shake the Muslim
		
01:06:28 --> 01:06:29
			person in a relationship
		
01:06:30 --> 01:06:32
			who's not doing right by their non Muslim
		
01:06:32 --> 01:06:35
			partner because they weren't honest with them in
		
01:06:35 --> 01:06:37
			the beginning. Right? There's people who have varied
		
01:06:37 --> 01:06:40
			understandings of how this works. It's very beautiful,
		
01:06:40 --> 01:06:42
			like where there can be synergies and understandings,
		
01:06:43 --> 01:06:44
			but I've also sat with people in my
		
01:06:44 --> 01:06:46
			office who are like, can you just make
		
01:06:46 --> 01:06:48
			me Muslim? And I'm like, I don't have
		
01:06:48 --> 01:06:50
			like a Muslim wand, dude. Do you know?
		
01:06:50 --> 01:06:51
			But they're struggling
		
01:06:51 --> 01:06:54
			because they want to believe in the religion,
		
01:06:54 --> 01:06:55
			but for them subjectively,
		
01:06:56 --> 01:06:58
			it's hard to explore the religion
		
01:06:58 --> 01:07:01
			when they have now this added caveat that
		
01:07:01 --> 01:07:03
			if I don't do x, I'm not going
		
01:07:03 --> 01:07:04
			to get y.
		
01:07:04 --> 01:07:06
			And so the exploration of it is not
		
01:07:06 --> 01:07:07
			objective
		
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			in that way for some specifically,
		
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			and then I'll sit down with some people
		
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			who they're just like, I don't want to
		
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			become Muslim.
		
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			Why can't I marry my Muslim boyfriend or
		
01:07:18 --> 01:07:19
			girlfriend?
		
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			Like you're a grown person. You could do
		
01:07:20 --> 01:07:22
			whatever you want to. You don't need my
		
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			permission.
		
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			There's a guy that came to sit with
		
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			me. He is Catholic. His girlfriend is Muslim,
		
01:07:28 --> 01:07:30
			and you know why can't we have a
		
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			wedding that's 50% Catholic
		
01:07:32 --> 01:07:33
			and 50% Islamic?
		
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			You can. You can have whatever you'd like
		
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			but it's 50% Catholic and 50% Islamic
		
01:07:40 --> 01:07:43
			then it's neither Catholic or Islamic. You're just
		
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			making your own religion at that point. You
		
01:07:45 --> 01:07:46
			see?
		
01:07:47 --> 01:07:49
			And that's your prerogative, like do whatever you
		
01:07:49 --> 01:07:52
			wanna do. I'm not your dad, and even
		
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			if I was, most of you are bigger
		
01:07:54 --> 01:07:55
			than me. Like what can I do to
		
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			you? Right? I can't hold you to that
		
01:07:58 --> 01:08:00
			place. You just have to know what you're
		
01:08:00 --> 01:08:02
			doing and why you're doing it.
		
01:08:03 --> 01:08:05
			So why do people do this?
		
01:08:05 --> 01:08:08
			Right? What is it that can be something
		
01:08:08 --> 01:08:11
			that we have awareness of and consciousness of
		
01:08:11 --> 01:08:12
			in this regard.
		
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			It's not struggle.
		
01:08:14 --> 01:08:16
			It's not like it's hard for me to
		
01:08:16 --> 01:08:19
			wake up for fudger. Do you know? Like
		
01:08:19 --> 01:08:22
			fasting is really tough, you know, especially in
		
01:08:22 --> 01:08:23
			the summer. Do you know what I mean?
		
01:08:23 --> 01:08:26
			That's not what we're saying. We're saying there's
		
01:08:26 --> 01:08:27
			a change.
		
01:08:27 --> 01:08:28
			What's compelling,
		
01:08:29 --> 01:08:30
			like the change
		
01:08:31 --> 01:08:34
			in a way that is outside of what
		
01:08:34 --> 01:08:37
			the religion allows for. The question makes sense.
		
01:08:37 --> 01:08:38
			So you can turn the person next to
		
01:08:38 --> 01:08:40
			you. What are some of the reasons as
		
01:08:40 --> 01:08:42
			to why these things might come up as
		
01:08:42 --> 01:08:44
			as actual things? And then we'll come back
		
01:08:44 --> 01:08:46
			and discuss. But go ahead.
		
01:12:35 --> 01:12:37
			Okay. So what are some of the things
		
01:12:37 --> 01:12:40
			that contribute to this? Like, why would somebody
		
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			or many people,
		
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			what would contribute to kind of the shift
		
01:12:45 --> 01:12:46
			or the change?
		
01:12:47 --> 01:12:48
			Individually,
		
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			communally,
		
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			you know, what what are we discussing? What's
		
01:12:52 --> 01:12:53
			coming up for people?
		
01:12:55 --> 01:12:57
			Or how might somebody fall into a place
		
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			where what they're practicing is just not part
		
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			of this thing?
		
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			Any thoughts?
		
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			Yeah.
		
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			I think what we talked about is there's
		
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			a lot of different reasons. One could be,
		
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			with trying to to
		
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			I've seen a lot of people
		
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			I think that also sometimes it's, like, the
		
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			easiness
		
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			in our own, like, practice and then the
		
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			I think they all come
		
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			But it's important. Right? These are all things
		
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			that that could be there
		
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			as long as they are in a concluding
		
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			point that is changing religion.
		
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			Like if we're in a place where
		
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			you and I went out to watch a
		
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			movie
		
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			and the movie's getting good and you're like,
		
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			hey, call this mug group time. And I'm
		
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			like, I don't know. I just wanna watch
		
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			the movie. Right?
		
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			That doesn't mean I'm adding to the religion.
		
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			It just means I'm not following the religion.
		
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			Do you see the difference?
		
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			Right? I know I'm supposed to be out
		
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			there praying,
		
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			but I'm sitting watching this thing. Right? It's
		
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			very different than me saying
		
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			that is not a part of Islam.
		
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			Do you know?
		
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			I'm not obligated to go do it
		
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			versus
		
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			I know I'm obligated to do it,
		
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			but this is just so
		
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			amazing
		
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			in terms of the cinematic experience.
		
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			How could I leave it behind? Do you
		
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			know? Do you see what I mean? Right?
		
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			Or if like, I'm in a place where
		
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			I'm just, you know, lazy Sunday,
		
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			and
		
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			it's like, hey, let's do this or let's
		
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			do that.
		
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			And I'm not
		
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			moving
		
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			because I'm not motivated
		
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			versus
		
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			it becomes like this slippery slope
		
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			that out of it, I just go down
		
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			and down and down further,
		
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			which attaches itself to the hadith that was
		
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			before this,
		
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			right? What does that hadith say at the
		
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			end?
		
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			People could be like good their whole life
		
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			and at the end of it was written
		
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			for them catches up because they start to
		
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			change their actions. Or they could be like
		
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			on this path that's crazy.
		
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			And at the end,
		
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			they start doing like stuff that's really good.
		
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			Do you know? But think about how the
		
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			motivation goes
		
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			from like the whim, the desire
		
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			being compelled by a thought that now manifests
		
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			itself from a whim to an action and
		
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			it becomes habituated,
		
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			Right? The entry point of the laziness
		
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			can come now to be the entry point
		
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			to a broader conversation
		
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			of a justification
		
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			that creates something that says, that's not Islam.
		
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			And what's like this minute early on can
		
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			become this big and then you could pass
		
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			it on to your kids, or you could
		
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			pass it on to, like, the new Muslim
		
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			that came to learn Islam for you. Right?
		
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			Where your own practice
		
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			starts to define what Islam is to them,
		
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			and then they come and they're like, this
		
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			guy didn't know anything about what he was
		
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			talking about, man. Right? He was just telling
		
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			me how to be called Latif. He wasn't
		
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			telling me how to be a Muslim. Do
		
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			you know? Do you see the difference? Right?
		
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			What else can contribute to this?
		
01:16:54 --> 01:16:54
			Yeah.
		
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			Having access
		
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			to a lot of the things that we
		
01:17:02 --> 01:17:05
			wouldn't have access to back home and, like,
		
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			kind of falling trapped into
		
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			Yeah. And when you're surrounded by people
		
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			who they try to compromise on things
		
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			that
		
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			it's not in their jurisdiction,
		
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			Do you know? When the guy comes and
		
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			says, can you do this wedding? It's not
		
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			that I don't want to. Right? It's just
		
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			like I I can't.
		
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			Do you know what I mean?
		
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			I can't walk into a Catholic church and
		
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			say give me communion.
		
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			The priest is not allowed to give me
		
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			communion. Right? I'm not Catholic
		
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			and I'm not like I said, you know,
		
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			regular, like, everyday Catholics.
		
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			I've sat this close to Pope Francis. We've
		
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			spoken at things together. Catholic people are really
		
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			great people. Do you know what I mean?
		
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			I can say to the priest, well, I'm
		
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			just gonna give myself communion,
		
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			and then I can't drink this wine,
		
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			so I'm gonna drink orange juice. And I
		
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			can't eat this wafer that you think is,
		
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			you know, symbolic of this,
		
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			so I'm gonna eat this Oreo cookie.
		
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			The priest is gonna say, none of this
		
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			is communion.
		
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			And he's not being mean
		
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			by telling me, like, this is not like
		
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			Catholicism. This is not communion.
		
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			You could call it whatever you want to,
		
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			but it's not in the jurisdiction
		
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			of the priest
		
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			to change
		
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			what is not in his jurisdiction to change.
		
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			When you live in a society
		
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			that has a modern day shirk that is
		
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			egocentricity.
		
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			Right? This supremacist
		
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			mindset
		
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			rooted in overt consumption
		
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			that says
		
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			not only
		
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			should you want the things that you want
		
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			as much as you want them at the
		
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			expense of your needs, you're actually entitled to
		
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			have it however you want to have it.
		
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			You should have your coffee made exactly the
		
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			way you want it to be. You should
		
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			have somebody announce your name and write it
		
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			on your cup.
		
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			You should have every single thing that your
		
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			ego desires.
		
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			And as it gets pumped into you again
		
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			and again and again, and from a distance,
		
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			you see all these people that that's the
		
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			way they get to live and it's that
		
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			must be the key for acceptance for me
		
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			or that's where I can find normalcy.
		
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			Bida being the opposite of sunnah
		
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			meaning innovation is the opposite of the prophetic
		
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			example.
		
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			The prophetic example also
		
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			is what is the primordial
		
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			state of existence.
		
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			Right? And when you have supremacy
		
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			claim that it is the primordial state of
		
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			existence,
		
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			that's why these things also clash with each
		
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			other. Do you see what I mean? So
		
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			innovation
		
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			gets inherently linked to whiteness and anti blackness
		
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			in this way because it's also an opposite
		
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			of the prophetic
		
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			tradition
		
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			that is about kindness and gentleness,
		
01:20:06 --> 01:20:07
			the common good,
		
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			like finding beauty in all things around you.
		
01:20:10 --> 01:20:11
			Whereas,
		
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			like,
		
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			whiteness
		
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			says it's the primordial state.
		
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			Blackness is on the other end of the
		
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			spectrum and you're always in this constant state
		
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			of validation that says, I need to be
		
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			in pursuit of what's on the end of
		
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			whiteness. Do you see what I mean? Right?
		
01:20:30 --> 01:20:31
			And so that societal
		
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			impact that says, well,
		
01:20:34 --> 01:20:36
			they are good in terms of wealth and
		
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			power and privilege
		
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			and they just do whatever they want to.
		
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			Maybe I should just start doing whatever I
		
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			want to. And that's how I'm gonna start
		
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			making changes.
		
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			You can't compromise on a farad in Islam.
		
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			Something that's an obligation, it's an obligation.
		
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			Something that's haram, it's haram,
		
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			and those are things that are immutable.
		
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			When the people come to the prophet
		
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			to get him to just start bartering with
		
01:21:03 --> 01:21:04
			them on theology,
		
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			we'll worship your God for a day and
		
01:21:07 --> 01:21:08
			my God for a day, your god for
		
01:21:08 --> 01:21:10
			a week and ours for a day, yours
		
01:21:10 --> 01:21:11
			for a month and ours for a day,
		
01:21:11 --> 01:21:12
			yours for a year and our for a
		
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			day. Prophet says no. Like, I can't I
		
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			can't do this. It's not just out of
		
01:21:17 --> 01:21:18
			want and desire.
		
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			It's not in his authority.
		
01:21:20 --> 01:21:23
			That's not something he can barter on. Right?
		
01:21:25 --> 01:21:26
			Compare this to
		
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			there is something we'll talk about in the
		
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			sera class like probably next year. We're talking
		
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			about Medina.
		
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			They go from Medina to Mecca for the
		
01:21:36 --> 01:21:38
			first time many of them since they left
		
01:21:38 --> 01:21:41
			Mecca years before, and they're going to perform
		
01:21:41 --> 01:21:42
			Hajj,
		
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			and they're going back home, and they miss
		
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			home. And along the way, they meet the
		
01:21:47 --> 01:21:49
			people of Mecca, and they engage in a
		
01:21:49 --> 01:21:51
			treaty called the Treaty of Hudaybiyyah.
		
01:21:52 --> 01:21:53
			And at this treaty, one of the things
		
01:21:53 --> 01:21:55
			they agreed to, they're not going to Mecca
		
01:21:55 --> 01:21:58
			anymore, and they're gonna go back to Medina.
		
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			And the people are not happy. Umrah bin
		
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			Al Khattab is upset with the prophet, right?
		
01:22:03 --> 01:22:04
			Like,
		
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			are we not the Muslims and are they
		
01:22:09 --> 01:22:10
			not the mushrik? Why are we making deals
		
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			with them? Do you know? He's agitated.
		
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			The prophet can compromise on these things because
		
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			they are not
		
01:22:19 --> 01:22:19
			like
		
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			things that are beyond
		
01:22:22 --> 01:22:24
			compromise on. Do you see what I mean?
		
01:22:25 --> 01:22:28
			That's not what we're talking about here in
		
01:22:28 --> 01:22:30
			this instance. Do you know?
		
01:22:31 --> 01:22:34
			But when everything is purposely designed to get
		
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			you
		
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			to feed the self and to feed the
		
01:22:38 --> 01:22:39
			ego,
		
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			then is that much more that says,
		
01:22:42 --> 01:22:45
			I should make God submissive to me.
		
01:22:46 --> 01:22:51
			Religion comes about in I now worship what
		
01:22:51 --> 01:22:52
			I feel
		
01:22:52 --> 01:22:55
			as opposed to worshiping the creator of the
		
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			feelings that I have. You see you see
		
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			what I'm saying? What else did we talk
		
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			about? What else can cause this?
		
01:23:07 --> 01:23:07
			Yeah.
		
01:23:08 --> 01:23:11
			Didn't really talk about this, but brother's comment
		
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			just reminded me about environment.
		
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			And,
		
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			I think a lot of times, culture and
		
01:23:18 --> 01:23:20
			tradition can be mixed
		
01:23:20 --> 01:23:23
			in with religion, and I feel like that
		
01:23:23 --> 01:23:26
			might be a part of innovating,
		
01:23:27 --> 01:23:27
			unquote.
		
01:23:27 --> 01:23:29
			Yeah. And it could be.
		
01:23:30 --> 01:23:32
			Right? And this is, like, a tricky thing
		
01:23:33 --> 01:23:34
			because anybody can be Muslim.
		
01:23:35 --> 01:23:36
			So Islam
		
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			in
		
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			Nigeria
		
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			is gonna look Nigerian. Just as Islam in
		
01:23:41 --> 01:23:42
			China is gonna look Chinese,
		
01:23:43 --> 01:23:44
			and Islam
		
01:23:44 --> 01:23:47
			in Turkey is gonna look Turkish. Right? It's
		
01:23:47 --> 01:23:48
			gonna look different
		
01:23:49 --> 01:23:50
			in those ways,
		
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			and it's very purposeful in that sense. It's
		
01:23:53 --> 01:23:54
			not about muting your identity.
		
01:23:55 --> 01:23:56
			It's about enhancing it.
		
01:23:56 --> 01:23:59
			But where you have now practice that gets
		
01:23:59 --> 01:24:00
			passed on generationally,
		
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			I might be doing something a certain way
		
01:24:04 --> 01:24:06
			because I don't actually know what it is
		
01:24:06 --> 01:24:08
			I'm supposed to be doing. Do you know?
		
01:24:09 --> 01:24:11
			And if I'm not taking time to actually,
		
01:24:11 --> 01:24:13
			like, learn concretely
		
01:24:13 --> 01:24:15
			and have, like, a
		
01:24:15 --> 01:24:17
			structured understanding to it.
		
01:24:18 --> 01:24:20
			It's not gonna always be, like, my mom
		
01:24:20 --> 01:24:22
			said this and my dad said this. Right?
		
01:24:23 --> 01:24:25
			Mom and dad can sometimes be incorrect,
		
01:24:25 --> 01:24:26
			you know, and
		
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			where and how.
		
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			The other thing we take from this is
		
01:24:30 --> 01:24:31
			like,
		
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			I don't wanna say something is or isn't
		
01:24:34 --> 01:24:36
			Islam and be wrong.
		
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			Because as much as you add something to
		
01:24:39 --> 01:24:40
			it that's problematic,
		
01:24:41 --> 01:24:43
			if you're taking away something that's a part
		
01:24:43 --> 01:24:45
			of it, it's also a problem.
		
01:24:45 --> 01:24:47
			So if you take away from someone their
		
01:24:47 --> 01:24:48
			cultural identity,
		
01:24:49 --> 01:24:52
			telling them that being Muslim is somehow now
		
01:24:52 --> 01:24:53
			committing a cultural apostasy,
		
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			it's a big problem
		
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			because you're definitively
		
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			adding to the religion something that's not there.
		
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			The Quran and the Hadith doesn't say that
		
01:25:06 --> 01:25:07
			to be Muslim, you have
		
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			to
		
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			be
		
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			Arab,
		
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			nor does it say you have to pretend
		
01:25:12 --> 01:25:13
			to be Arab.
		
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			Do you know?
		
01:25:15 --> 01:25:16
			And so understanding,
		
01:25:17 --> 01:25:20
			like, when we say obligations and prohibitions are
		
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			very few, and there's a lot that gets
		
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			inter mixed to this
		
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			that has gray area to it. It's probably
		
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			a lot more that we can do than
		
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			we realize.
		
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			A couple other things that we wanna talk
		
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			about here before, like, next week, we'll get
		
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			more into, like, what are the categories of
		
01:25:37 --> 01:25:38
			this,
		
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			thinking about also the importance on the other
		
01:25:41 --> 01:25:43
			end of, like, the sunnah and where you
		
01:25:43 --> 01:25:44
			want to embrace that
		
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			from different aspects outwardly and inwardly.
		
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			Quite often these terms
		
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			also get associated
		
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			with labels and categories of Muslims.
		
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			Do you know? So people have a knee
		
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			jerk allergic reaction
		
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			to the word bidah at any time. Do
		
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			you know what I mean? A lot of
		
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			people don't use it properly because they excessively
		
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			use it. Like when I was 18,
		
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			it was the first time I
		
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			performed like a spiritual retreat at the end
		
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			of Ramadan.
		
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			That was a sunnah of the prophet,
		
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			peace be upon him. The last 10 nights
		
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			of Ramadan, he would just stay in the
		
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			masjid
		
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			in, you know, the the end of Ramadan.
		
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			It's a really amazing experience. Like, you should
		
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			try to do it. You're just consuming things
		
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			that are good. You're not hearing, like, people
		
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			yell and fight or lie, you know, and
		
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			all you're hearing is, like,
		
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			good kind of conversations. There's a lot of
		
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			silence,
		
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			reflection,
		
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			and it can make the world feel very
		
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			different. You're not away from people, you're away
		
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			from distractions.
		
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			And I got sick,
		
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			you know, during this 10 days because I
		
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			was sleeping in the Masjid,
		
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			and I was sleeping near, like, the front
		
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			where there was windows exactly like this, and
		
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			it was cold. When I was 18,
		
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			it was Christmas time was Ramadan.
		
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			Right? So the Islamic calendar is a lunar
		
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			calendar,
		
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			and the month shift, like, 10, 11 days
		
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			earlier every year
		
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			in relation to the Gregorian calendar. You know?
		
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			And so that year,
		
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			it's like the year 2000,
		
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			essentially,
		
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			and Ramadan
		
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			was during Christmas holidays. Do you know what
		
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			I mean?
		
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			The middle of the masjid is where, like,
		
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			all the heat was circulating.
		
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			Retreat, you're not supposed to leave the masjid
		
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			unless there's an actual reason to leave. You
		
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			just stay in the masjid the whole time.
		
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			So I got a cup and I'm just
		
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			like spitting congestion into the cup. It's gross.
		
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			Right? You know, you'd be I'm 18 years
		
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			old. What am I supposed to do? Do
		
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			you know what I mean?
		
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			So this man comes next to me
		
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			who is, like, very excited
		
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			to be Muslim.
		
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			He grow up with it, but wasn't really
		
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			practicing.
		
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			And he, like, in the beginning of the
		
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			10 days, sat next to me. It was,
		
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			like, very much, like, you know, I'm very
		
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			nervous. I didn't really grow up so much.
		
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			They spent the next nights
		
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			like with these guys
		
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			who were sitting towards the back and just
		
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			like
		
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			teaching him about Islam. And now everything became
		
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			an innovation.
		
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			And so he came and sat next to
		
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			me. And I'm like, exhausted. There's, like, burgers
		
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			coming out my nose. I'm spinning this cup.
		
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			And he's, like, I think this is bida.
		
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			And I was, like, what?
		
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			And he's, like, you're spitting in the cup,
		
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			Like, this isn't, like, established in the sunnah.
		
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			And, like, what are you talking about, man?
		
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			Right? I don't have a cold.
		
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			It's like the equivalent of me blowing my
		
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			nose. Like, what what is what do you
		
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			what do you mean? But he doesn't know
		
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			what the word means. Right?
		
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			And, you know,
		
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			I'm not, like, upset with him, but I'm
		
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			worried because even me at 18 not knowing
		
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			anything about my religion,
		
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			I could tell that this guy is way
		
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			off. You
		
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			know?
		
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			So there's there's a group of people
		
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			who they're overly excessive about this.
		
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			But
		
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			the problem that comes from it is then
		
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			you have people
		
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			who are very much anti this methodology
		
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			that also then become allergic to the idea
		
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			that anything is an innovation.
		
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			You see what I mean? Right? And you
		
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			can't see these terms just linked to categories
		
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			of Muslims
		
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			that interpret theology
		
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			and law in distinct ways, all within, like,
		
01:29:43 --> 01:29:45
			a banner of Islam. Right? But in just
		
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			understanding what they mean at a base level,
		
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			You know? And there are things that are
		
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			not established, like within religion in and of
		
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			itself,
		
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			that definitely people are adding on. There's things
		
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			that people get heavily influenced by different cultures.
		
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			My family comes from the Indian subcontinent.
		
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			And you have a lot of influence from
		
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			like Hindu culture, and Hindu religion,
		
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			and a lot of practices
		
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			that Muslims
		
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			engage in, in India, in Pakistan,
		
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			you know, in the entire Indian subcontinent.
		
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			It's not like a good or it's just,
		
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			like, objectively true, you know,
		
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			and people won't be able to realize or
		
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			recognize this
		
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			in this way if that's just what's being
		
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			passed on to them. Do you know what
		
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			I mean?
		
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			And a demographic that reminds us they're like,
		
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			hey, we have a Quran and a sunnah
		
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			can have a value add because they're saying
		
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			this is what the root and base is
		
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			of this.
		
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			As long as that's not becoming like the
		
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			excessive point of it. Do you know? So
		
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			here,
		
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			it's like,
		
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			one,
		
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			if you do this thing,
		
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			there's just it's it's pointless. Like, that's what
		
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			it is.
		
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			And it can go past the boundary
		
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			that actually creates, like, detriment back to you
		
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			if you're miseducating
		
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			people on things. Do you know? 2,
		
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			you're not getting, like, the contentment that can
		
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			be harnessed in spiritual transformation
		
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			from actually doing the exercises in the way
		
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			that it's intended to do. Do you know
		
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			what I mean? Like, some of you are
		
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			gonna go for us with Umrah to Mecca
		
01:31:19 --> 01:31:21
			and Medina, a smaller pilgrimage to Mecca and
		
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			Medina.
		
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			When you,
		
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			like, walk around the Kaaba,
		
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			right, your left shoulder
		
01:31:27 --> 01:31:28
			walks
		
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			in like circles around the Kaaba. You stay
		
01:31:32 --> 01:31:34
			with your shoulder kind of parallel
		
01:31:34 --> 01:31:37
			to the Kaaba. Right? If we go there
		
01:31:37 --> 01:31:38
			and I'm like, hey, man, you don't make
		
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			a lot easier. Let's just walk with our
		
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			right shoulders facing the Kaaba. Do you know?
		
01:31:45 --> 01:31:47
			It's not like what the exercises
		
01:31:48 --> 01:31:49
			and the metaphysical
		
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			benefits can't be yielded
		
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			without the performance of the exercise being done
		
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			in the way that it's intended to be
		
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			done. If you decided to do a reverse
		
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			fast, right, you're like, you know what? It's
		
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			hard fasting, like, when the sun is up.
		
01:32:04 --> 01:32:06
			I'm just gonna fast more hours when the
		
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			sun is down, and I'll be asleep for
		
01:32:08 --> 01:32:10
			most of it, so it'll work. This is
		
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			great. You might, like, feel more hydrated and
		
01:32:13 --> 01:32:15
			all of this other stuff, but the spiritual
		
01:32:16 --> 01:32:19
			impact of it cannot be yielded because the
		
01:32:19 --> 01:32:20
			exercise is not being performed
		
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			in the way that it was ordained to
		
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			be performed.
		
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			And its benefit is not rooted in your
		
01:32:28 --> 01:32:28
			determining
		
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			what the gain is from it or the
		
01:32:31 --> 01:32:33
			ease. Do you know what I mean? It
		
01:32:33 --> 01:32:35
			doesn't need you to follow it in order
		
01:32:35 --> 01:32:37
			for it to
		
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			bring benefit.
		
01:32:39 --> 01:32:41
			Aisha Radi Allahu Ta'ala Anha
		
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			is not saying this to us
		
01:32:44 --> 01:32:46
			in the way that the man who's telling
		
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			me I'm spitting in a cup is saying
		
01:32:48 --> 01:32:51
			it to me. Right? This guy, may Allah
		
01:32:51 --> 01:32:54
			bless him, he didn't know anything about anything.
		
01:32:54 --> 01:32:56
			Do you know? Right? And that's okay.
		
01:32:56 --> 01:32:57
			In his own words,
		
01:32:58 --> 01:33:00
			he went through, like, this 10 day retreat,
		
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			and, like, day 1 was different. And then
		
01:33:04 --> 01:33:06
			he met these guys who just, like, I
		
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			don't even know what they said to this
		
01:33:08 --> 01:33:11
			poor guy. And now he's like kind of
		
01:33:11 --> 01:33:13
			drunk on, like, one verse of Quran he
		
01:33:13 --> 01:33:14
			learned. Right?
		
01:33:15 --> 01:33:16
			But Aisha
		
01:33:16 --> 01:33:19
			is the person that we said that people
		
01:33:19 --> 01:33:21
			said of her a quarter of all, like,
		
01:33:21 --> 01:33:22
			legal rulings
		
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			are
		
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			because of her contributions.
		
01:33:26 --> 01:33:29
			Right? She is a master of spirituality,
		
01:33:29 --> 01:33:30
			of Quran,
		
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			of Hadith.
		
01:33:32 --> 01:33:32
			She's knowledgeable,
		
01:33:33 --> 01:33:35
			like companions of the prophet
		
01:33:35 --> 01:33:38
			would go to her to ask for understandings
		
01:33:38 --> 01:33:39
			of Islam,
		
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			and she's telling people
		
01:33:41 --> 01:33:43
			as this young woman
		
01:33:44 --> 01:33:46
			who honors the role
		
01:33:46 --> 01:33:49
			of being a mother to the believers
		
01:33:49 --> 01:33:51
			that has that love and consideration
		
01:33:52 --> 01:33:52
			and commitment.
		
01:33:53 --> 01:33:56
			She is teaching us this Hadith
		
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			that is rooted in the prophetic tradition,
		
01:34:01 --> 01:34:02
			don't add things to this thing.
		
01:34:03 --> 01:34:04
			You don't need to.
		
01:34:05 --> 01:34:07
			It's good the way that it is.
		
01:34:09 --> 01:34:11
			What we find towards the end of revelation
		
01:34:11 --> 01:34:13
			is a verse that says,
		
01:34:15 --> 01:34:17
			that on this day,
		
01:34:17 --> 01:34:19
			I completed for you your religion.
		
01:34:20 --> 01:34:20
			Right?
		
01:34:21 --> 01:34:23
			There's not anything else that's gonna get added
		
01:34:23 --> 01:34:25
			to the Quran, and the Quran historically,
		
01:34:26 --> 01:34:27
			like factually
		
01:34:28 --> 01:34:28
			historically
		
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			is in the same form as it was
		
01:34:31 --> 01:34:32
			when it first revealed.
		
01:34:32 --> 01:34:35
			Academics who hate Islam will tell you this.
		
01:34:37 --> 01:34:40
			There's no revisions, there's no changes to it.
		
01:34:41 --> 01:34:43
			It's the exact same text
		
01:34:43 --> 01:34:44
			and it's purposeful
		
01:34:45 --> 01:34:49
			because the idea is that you are practicing
		
01:34:49 --> 01:34:52
			it with elements of continuity and change, right?
		
01:34:52 --> 01:34:54
			So like how you play on an airplane
		
01:34:54 --> 01:34:57
			when there was no airplane before, but there's
		
01:34:57 --> 01:35:00
			still like mode through which you can draw
		
01:35:01 --> 01:35:01
			analogously
		
01:35:02 --> 01:35:04
			circumstances that are there, right? So no one
		
01:35:04 --> 01:35:07
			could tell you it's wrong to prey on
		
01:35:07 --> 01:35:09
			an airplane. That doesn't make any sense.
		
01:35:10 --> 01:35:10
			But
		
01:35:11 --> 01:35:12
			if
		
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			there's like an absence of understanding how these
		
01:35:16 --> 01:35:17
			things work,
		
01:35:17 --> 01:35:19
			you'll have people who
		
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			they speak
		
01:35:21 --> 01:35:23
			when they don't know what what they're talking
		
01:35:23 --> 01:35:23
			about.
		
01:35:24 --> 01:35:27
			You have like Aisha also say, Radi Allahu
		
01:35:27 --> 01:35:28
			Ta'ala Anha
		
01:35:29 --> 01:35:31
			as she talks about like innovative practices.
		
01:35:32 --> 01:35:33
			She said, one of the first
		
01:35:34 --> 01:35:37
			like newly invented practices after the passing of
		
01:35:37 --> 01:35:38
			the prophet
		
01:35:38 --> 01:35:40
			was that people
		
01:35:40 --> 01:35:42
			started to eat to their stomachs full,
		
01:35:44 --> 01:35:46
			that they would fully satiate themselves.
		
01:35:47 --> 01:35:48
			Do you see?
		
01:35:49 --> 01:35:51
			Right? So it's not just about mechanics and
		
01:35:51 --> 01:35:54
			postures and these kinds of things, but the
		
01:35:54 --> 01:35:55
			consequences
		
01:35:56 --> 01:35:58
			of when you start to leave behind
		
01:35:58 --> 01:36:00
			what is the ethos of the religion,
		
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			it is going to have you delve deeper
		
01:36:04 --> 01:36:05
			into what is just about materialistic
		
01:36:06 --> 01:36:08
			gain and individual satisfaction.
		
01:36:09 --> 01:36:10
			You see what I mean?
		
01:36:11 --> 01:36:13
			So next time we'll talk about like the
		
01:36:13 --> 01:36:15
			sunnah a little bit more, how that plays
		
01:36:15 --> 01:36:18
			into this. A text you want to read
		
01:36:19 --> 01:36:21
			in between this week and next, it's written
		
01:36:21 --> 01:36:22
			in the nineties.
		
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			It's called the sunnaz primordiality,
		
01:36:26 --> 01:36:28
			Right? It's written by Abdul Hakim Murad,
		
01:36:28 --> 01:36:31
			TJ Winter. He's a convert to Islam. He's
		
01:36:31 --> 01:36:33
			a great sheikh, a great scholar. He's at
		
01:36:33 --> 01:36:37
			Cambridge University. He founded the Cambridge Muslim College,
		
01:36:38 --> 01:36:40
			as well as the Cambridge mosque.
		
01:36:41 --> 01:36:42
			It's really like deep substantive
		
01:36:43 --> 01:36:43
			individual,
		
01:36:45 --> 01:36:47
			remarkable person, may Allah preserve him. So he
		
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			wrote this article like years ago, and I
		
01:36:50 --> 01:36:51
			read it quite often.
		
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			And it really, like,
		
01:36:55 --> 01:36:57
			highlights this idea of
		
01:36:58 --> 01:37:00
			why we should, in the prism of modernity,
		
01:37:01 --> 01:37:03
			be taking the sunnah as something as, like,
		
01:37:03 --> 01:37:06
			a moral philosophy on life. Do you know?
		
01:37:08 --> 01:37:10
			And so I'd recommend reading that. We'll talk
		
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			about also, like, different categories of what the
		
01:37:12 --> 01:37:15
			term bidah means, because there's going to be
		
01:37:15 --> 01:37:18
			different kind of semantical understandings, right? There's a
		
01:37:18 --> 01:37:20
			group of people that they would say anything
		
01:37:20 --> 01:37:23
			that happened in the time of the prophet,
		
01:37:23 --> 01:37:23
			his companions,
		
01:37:24 --> 01:37:26
			and the first four, like, caliphs, that's all
		
01:37:26 --> 01:37:26
			considered
		
01:37:27 --> 01:37:30
			to be within, like, what is, like, authoritatively
		
01:37:31 --> 01:37:31
			sunnah.
		
01:37:31 --> 01:37:33
			So anything that happens at that time. There's
		
01:37:33 --> 01:37:36
			others who would say no. Like, it doesn't
		
01:37:36 --> 01:37:37
			transcend all those generations.
		
01:37:38 --> 01:37:41
			So they would coin a term
		
01:37:41 --> 01:37:43
			that says like you can have a good
		
01:37:43 --> 01:37:46
			bida also a bida hasana.
		
01:37:46 --> 01:37:48
			Like in Ramadan, for example,
		
01:37:49 --> 01:37:51
			in the Sunni tradition we pray a prayer
		
01:37:51 --> 01:37:52
			in the nights that's called
		
01:37:53 --> 01:37:54
			the Salatul Taraweeh
		
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			prayers like some of you have probably prayed
		
01:37:58 --> 01:37:58
			it before.
		
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			That wasn't established
		
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			as a congregational
		
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			prayer during the time of the Prophet Muhammad.
		
01:38:06 --> 01:38:07
			It became established
		
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			as a congregational prayer during the time of
		
01:38:10 --> 01:38:12
			the second caliph, Umar ibn Al Khattab,
		
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			And they would say, like, this is like
		
01:38:16 --> 01:38:19
			a good bid'ah. Right? When we have 2
		
01:38:19 --> 01:38:20
			Adans at Jummah
		
01:38:21 --> 01:38:23
			time, there wasn't always 2 Adans at Jummah
		
01:38:23 --> 01:38:26
			time. There's just 1 Adan at Jummah time.
		
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			Do you know? But you think about, like,
		
01:38:28 --> 01:38:31
			how communities grow, people grow. That first athon
		
01:38:32 --> 01:38:35
			is like, hey, everybody close the shops, get
		
01:38:35 --> 01:38:39
			everything down, right? Joma time is upon us.
		
01:38:39 --> 01:38:43
			Then the second athan is, like, the, like,
		
01:38:43 --> 01:38:45
			Khadib has stood on the pulpit to start
		
01:38:45 --> 01:38:47
			delivering the sermon. Do you know? So there's
		
01:38:47 --> 01:38:48
			an awareness,
		
01:38:50 --> 01:38:50
			but, fundamentally,
		
01:38:51 --> 01:38:54
			the idea is the same. The semantics of
		
01:38:54 --> 01:38:56
			it are a little bit different.
		
01:38:56 --> 01:38:57
			Do you know?
		
01:38:57 --> 01:39:00
			Okay. So let's do this for 2 minutes.
		
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			You just turn to the people next to
		
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			you. What are some of the things you're
		
01:39:02 --> 01:39:04
			taking away from tonight's conversation?
		
01:39:05 --> 01:39:08
			And then we'll come back and discuss, but
		
01:39:08 --> 01:39:08
			go ahead.
		
01:39:10 --> 01:39:12
			Could you repeat the title of that text?
		
01:39:13 --> 01:39:14
			The sunnah as primordiality.
		
01:39:16 --> 01:39:16
			Yeah.
		
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			Okay.
		
01:46:32 --> 01:46:33
			So what are some of the things we're
		
01:46:33 --> 01:46:34
			taking away?
		
01:46:38 --> 01:46:39
			What's coming up for people?
		
01:46:44 --> 01:46:46
			What are we taking away from this conversation
		
01:46:46 --> 01:46:47
			today?
		
01:46:51 --> 01:46:51
			Yeah.
		
01:46:55 --> 01:46:56
			We're having a well, I think it's very
		
01:46:56 --> 01:46:57
			interesting conversation
		
01:46:58 --> 01:46:58
			about,
		
01:47:00 --> 01:47:03
			you know, certain things, like, we were talking
		
01:47:03 --> 01:47:03
			about
		
01:47:04 --> 01:47:04
			inactiveness
		
01:47:05 --> 01:47:05
			could
		
01:47:06 --> 01:47:07
			be equal to
		
01:47:08 --> 01:47:08
			innovation
		
01:47:09 --> 01:47:11
			in in the context of this hadith,
		
01:47:13 --> 01:47:15
			but, like, compromise when you you might not
		
01:47:15 --> 01:47:17
			necessarily know something.
		
01:47:18 --> 01:47:20
			And now we have this
		
01:47:20 --> 01:47:22
			amazing Internet where we can kind of, like,
		
01:47:22 --> 01:47:24
			search for answers when we're not sure if
		
01:47:24 --> 01:47:25
			something is,
		
01:47:26 --> 01:47:30
			innovation or if it's, you know, a fard
		
01:47:30 --> 01:47:31
			or sunnah or whatever.
		
01:47:32 --> 01:47:34
			But I feel like
		
01:47:36 --> 01:47:38
			the resource that is the Internet
		
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			can
		
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			kind of be a little bit overwhelming. Yeah.
		
01:47:42 --> 01:47:44
			It's the worst. Like,
		
01:47:45 --> 01:47:46
			At the same time, it's like you can
		
01:47:46 --> 01:47:49
			scroll and find whatever answer is suitable for
		
01:47:49 --> 01:47:52
			you in that moment in time. And that
		
01:47:52 --> 01:47:54
			might be an innovation
		
01:47:54 --> 01:47:56
			in in the context of this study. But,
		
01:47:56 --> 01:47:57
			like,
		
01:47:57 --> 01:47:59
			you know, it's it's
		
01:48:00 --> 01:48:02
			correct me if I'm wrong here, but in
		
01:48:02 --> 01:48:04
			terms of what we were discussing, it just
		
01:48:04 --> 01:48:04
			seems
		
01:48:06 --> 01:48:07
			difficult
		
01:48:07 --> 01:48:09
			to to navigate
		
01:48:10 --> 01:48:12
			what is innovation, what is not.
		
01:48:12 --> 01:48:15
			Yeah. But if you have kind of a
		
01:48:15 --> 01:48:15
			foundation
		
01:48:15 --> 01:48:18
			because it's it's it's purposeful. Right?
		
01:48:18 --> 01:48:20
			And we have to we'd have to recognize,
		
01:48:21 --> 01:48:21
			like,
		
01:48:21 --> 01:48:23
			a lot of us just at some point
		
01:48:24 --> 01:48:25
			didn't have exposure
		
01:48:25 --> 01:48:26
			to
		
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			kinda
		
01:48:29 --> 01:48:32
			Islam as we grow. Right? And that's that's
		
01:48:32 --> 01:48:35
			fine. Most everything everybody is doing is probably
		
01:48:35 --> 01:48:36
			pretty solid. Do you know what I mean?
		
01:48:37 --> 01:48:38
			But the idea is that there can be
		
01:48:38 --> 01:48:41
			things that are are just not a part
		
01:48:41 --> 01:48:42
			of it. Do you know? And some of
		
01:48:42 --> 01:48:44
			it's not just the act in and of
		
01:48:44 --> 01:48:45
			itself,
		
01:48:45 --> 01:48:48
			but it's what we're looking at. Like, the
		
01:48:48 --> 01:48:49
			first hadith
		
01:48:49 --> 01:48:52
			that was in this book in the Malama
		
01:48:52 --> 01:48:54
			alu baniyat, that actions are by their intentions,
		
01:48:55 --> 01:48:57
			that hadith and this hadith,
		
01:48:58 --> 01:49:01
			some scholars say like these 2 hadith comprise
		
01:49:01 --> 01:49:03
			everything you need to know about Islam,
		
01:49:03 --> 01:49:06
			because one is about the inner part, the
		
01:49:06 --> 01:49:07
			intention,
		
01:49:07 --> 01:49:09
			and the other is about like the outer
		
01:49:09 --> 01:49:11
			part, like how that informs. Because not just
		
01:49:11 --> 01:49:13
			that the intention has to be good, the
		
01:49:13 --> 01:49:14
			action has to be good.
		
01:49:14 --> 01:49:16
			So how does one learn
		
01:49:16 --> 01:49:18
			anything? Do you know?
		
01:49:18 --> 01:49:20
			Most of you in this room have gone
		
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			through some
		
01:49:21 --> 01:49:24
			level of curricular study. Do you know what
		
01:49:24 --> 01:49:27
			I mean? Right? Even if you have homeschooled,
		
01:49:27 --> 01:49:29
			you didn't homeschool yourself. Do you know what
		
01:49:29 --> 01:49:30
			I'm saying?
		
01:49:30 --> 01:49:33
			And the Internet didn't homeschool you also.
		
01:49:34 --> 01:49:36
			So principally, you wanna think like where does
		
01:49:36 --> 01:49:39
			that structured element come in? That doesn't have
		
01:49:39 --> 01:49:41
			to be a 5 day a week experience
		
01:49:42 --> 01:49:44
			from like 8:30 in the morning till 3:30
		
01:49:44 --> 01:49:47
			in the afternoon with co curriculars and recess
		
01:49:47 --> 01:49:48
			and lunchtime.
		
01:49:48 --> 01:49:50
			But like an hour a day, you know,
		
01:49:50 --> 01:49:53
			2 hours a day. Right? A couple hours
		
01:49:53 --> 01:49:55
			a week, like a few hours a month
		
01:49:55 --> 01:49:57
			that I'm making deliberate time
		
01:49:57 --> 01:50:00
			to think out what's the foundational aspects that
		
01:50:00 --> 01:50:01
			I'm building upon
		
01:50:01 --> 01:50:03
			in a more structured way And how do
		
01:50:03 --> 01:50:06
			these 2 hadith inform one another? Do you
		
01:50:06 --> 01:50:07
			know?
		
01:50:07 --> 01:50:10
			And there's certain things that, like, could be
		
01:50:10 --> 01:50:10
			done
		
01:50:11 --> 01:50:13
			that have nothing to do with religion that
		
01:50:13 --> 01:50:15
			are just fine to do also.
		
01:50:16 --> 01:50:17
			Do you know what I mean? Like,
		
01:50:17 --> 01:50:19
			you could get married and it could look
		
01:50:19 --> 01:50:21
			a bunch of different ways from an Islamic
		
01:50:22 --> 01:50:22
			standpoint,
		
01:50:22 --> 01:50:25
			because permissibility doesn't equate to normativity.
		
01:50:25 --> 01:50:26
			You know,
		
01:50:27 --> 01:50:29
			just because it's done a certain way doesn't
		
01:50:29 --> 01:50:30
			mean that's the only way for it to
		
01:50:30 --> 01:50:31
			be done.
		
01:50:31 --> 01:50:33
			So it'll look different from country to country
		
01:50:33 --> 01:50:34
			and place to place,
		
01:50:35 --> 01:50:37
			you know, in in in certain ways. Right?
		
01:50:37 --> 01:50:40
			But a challenging thing would be if you
		
01:50:40 --> 01:50:43
			added obligation to something that's not obligation.
		
01:50:43 --> 01:50:44
			Like,
		
01:50:45 --> 01:50:46
			we had somebody
		
01:50:46 --> 01:50:48
			whose father passed away. We don't typically host
		
01:50:48 --> 01:50:51
			like Quran katoms here. Do you know? So
		
01:50:51 --> 01:50:53
			he said, hey, can we like get people
		
01:50:53 --> 01:50:54
			together read Quran?
		
01:50:54 --> 01:50:57
			And there's different opinions on like, you know,
		
01:50:57 --> 01:50:59
			whether the recitation of Quran for the deceased
		
01:50:59 --> 01:51:01
			is something that reaches people as a reward.
		
01:51:02 --> 01:51:04
			And like most people would say, yes, it
		
01:51:04 --> 01:51:05
			is, Right?
		
01:51:06 --> 01:51:07
			But even there you'd have
		
01:51:08 --> 01:51:10
			the where the where the Bida comes in
		
01:51:10 --> 01:51:13
			is not about the recitation of the Quran
		
01:51:14 --> 01:51:16
			following somebody's death is if you say it's
		
01:51:16 --> 01:51:19
			obligatory to do it and it has to
		
01:51:19 --> 01:51:22
			be done at this time and this place
		
01:51:22 --> 01:51:23
			like definitively.
		
01:51:24 --> 01:51:25
			Do you know what I mean? Do you
		
01:51:25 --> 01:51:28
			see the difference in like what the concept
		
01:51:28 --> 01:51:29
			is? Do you know what I'm saying?
		
01:51:30 --> 01:51:32
			And the better thing to do is just
		
01:51:32 --> 01:51:33
			if you don't know, just be like, I
		
01:51:33 --> 01:51:35
			don't know. Right? And this is a big
		
01:51:35 --> 01:51:37
			problem that comes with
		
01:51:37 --> 01:51:39
			entitlement and exceptionalism.
		
01:51:40 --> 01:51:42
			I always have to have an answer, an
		
01:51:42 --> 01:51:44
			opinion on something. If I don't know something,
		
01:51:44 --> 01:51:47
			like, I don't know. Right? I had a
		
01:51:47 --> 01:51:47
			good friend
		
01:51:48 --> 01:51:49
			who
		
01:51:49 --> 01:51:51
			he was getting upset with me.
		
01:51:51 --> 01:51:53
			I was like, I'm not gonna hate on
		
01:51:53 --> 01:51:56
			myself if I don't know something, right? Like,
		
01:51:56 --> 01:51:57
			what do you want me to do? Like,
		
01:51:57 --> 01:51:58
			I'm not,
		
01:51:58 --> 01:52:00
			like, I don't know, like, this, why would
		
01:52:00 --> 01:52:02
			I know what you're talking about? I don't
		
01:52:02 --> 01:52:04
			know it. You know, I don't have to
		
01:52:04 --> 01:52:07
			feel bad about myself not knowing something, but
		
01:52:07 --> 01:52:09
			you can cause more damage if you continue
		
01:52:09 --> 01:52:11
			to act like if you don't know. I
		
01:52:11 --> 01:52:14
			wouldn't say don't use the internet, but
		
01:52:14 --> 01:52:16
			like, it's really hard
		
01:52:16 --> 01:52:18
			and can create a lot more confusion,
		
01:52:18 --> 01:52:19
			because
		
01:52:19 --> 01:52:22
			you can access information without somebody helping to
		
01:52:22 --> 01:52:23
			distill it,
		
01:52:24 --> 01:52:26
			which some of these things only have to
		
01:52:26 --> 01:52:28
			be distilled as a one off. Do you
		
01:52:28 --> 01:52:30
			know what I mean? Because like, once you
		
01:52:30 --> 01:52:32
			learn how to pray, then you learn how
		
01:52:32 --> 01:52:32
			to pray,
		
01:52:33 --> 01:52:34
			then you don't have to keep like learning
		
01:52:34 --> 01:52:36
			how to like you already did it, you
		
01:52:36 --> 01:52:37
			know,
		
01:52:37 --> 01:52:40
			And you just kinda break it down
		
01:52:40 --> 01:52:42
			in a more systematic way. Does that make
		
01:52:42 --> 01:52:43
			sense?
		
01:52:43 --> 01:52:44
			Right?
		
01:52:44 --> 01:52:45
			Yeah.
		
01:52:48 --> 01:52:50
			Other thoughts, like, what are people taking away
		
01:52:50 --> 01:52:50
			from this?
		
01:52:57 --> 01:52:58
			Just don't be sectarian.
		
01:52:59 --> 01:53:01
			Learn your religion and, like, try and be
		
01:53:01 --> 01:53:02
			as a as a person that you can.
		
01:53:02 --> 01:53:03
			Because,
		
01:53:11 --> 01:53:13
			idea of innovation. Okay. That's a problem.
		
01:53:14 --> 01:53:15
			So you can have a problem with that
		
01:53:15 --> 01:53:16
			methodology, but
		
01:53:17 --> 01:53:19
			not with the idea of innovation or, like,
		
01:53:19 --> 01:53:21
			how to navigate itself and as you, like,
		
01:53:21 --> 01:53:23
			the other extreme is that, oh, anything is
		
01:53:23 --> 01:53:25
			okay, you know, because as a bit like,
		
01:53:25 --> 01:53:28
			as an over correction, I'm gonna negate the
		
01:53:28 --> 01:53:30
			other group. Yeah. The best thing as you
		
01:53:30 --> 01:53:31
			just mentioned,
		
01:53:32 --> 01:53:33
			trying to learn your religion
		
01:53:34 --> 01:53:36
			and practice it in a structured way,
		
01:53:36 --> 01:53:38
			and be objective. And, you know, if you
		
01:53:38 --> 01:53:39
			look for the truth,
		
01:53:40 --> 01:53:40
			the level will,
		
01:53:42 --> 01:53:44
			show you the truth and based on what
		
01:53:44 --> 01:53:46
			Allah knows is the best way to use.
		
01:53:48 --> 01:53:50
			Yeah. And it's a god centric religion. Right?
		
01:53:50 --> 01:53:52
			So it's gonna assume there's certain things that
		
01:53:52 --> 01:53:54
			god wants you to do that you love
		
01:53:54 --> 01:53:55
			to do, certain things that
		
01:53:56 --> 01:53:58
			are a difficult struggle to do, and certain
		
01:53:58 --> 01:54:00
			things you just don't get. Like, why am
		
01:54:00 --> 01:54:02
			I doing this thing? But you're yielding to
		
01:54:02 --> 01:54:04
			the idea that, like, God is at the
		
01:54:04 --> 01:54:06
			center of it. Do you know? It's not
		
01:54:07 --> 01:54:09
			just it's not me, like, being there.
		
01:54:10 --> 01:54:12
			Other thoughts, anything else that comes up for
		
01:54:12 --> 01:54:12
			people? Yeah.
		
01:54:13 --> 01:54:15
			Definitely throughout the discussion.
		
01:54:16 --> 01:54:17
			This definitely reminded me of, like, when I
		
01:54:17 --> 01:54:19
			was reading Surat Al Najim.
		
01:54:19 --> 01:54:21
			And I, you know, I was reading through
		
01:54:21 --> 01:54:23
			it. I just want to read the tafsir.
		
01:54:23 --> 01:54:24
			And basically,
		
01:54:24 --> 01:54:27
			I remember it talks about 3 goddesses, right,
		
01:54:27 --> 01:54:28
			plus idols.
		
01:54:29 --> 01:54:30
			And also it's just a concept that I
		
01:54:30 --> 01:54:32
			just put in my head where I was
		
01:54:32 --> 01:54:34
			like, you know, you see like around the
		
01:54:34 --> 01:54:36
			world where they have, like, you know, multiple
		
01:54:36 --> 01:54:38
			gods or whatever, you know, how people create,
		
01:54:38 --> 01:54:39
			like, these false beliefs.
		
01:54:39 --> 01:54:42
			I asked myself, well, I understand how one
		
01:54:42 --> 01:54:44
			person can do that, but how can a
		
01:54:44 --> 01:54:47
			collective society help everyone do that? And definitely
		
01:54:47 --> 01:54:49
			when we were and definitely, when we were
		
01:54:49 --> 01:54:50
			talking about,
		
01:54:52 --> 01:54:54
			definitely I feel like, it's when the human
		
01:54:54 --> 01:54:56
			it's when it's when, like, a a person
		
01:54:56 --> 01:54:56
			will
		
01:54:57 --> 01:54:59
			their wants onto onto something.
		
01:54:59 --> 01:55:02
			So everyone wants something. Everyone wants something. This
		
01:55:02 --> 01:55:03
			is why when you look at a lot
		
01:55:03 --> 01:55:05
			of these, like, false titles, it's basically like,
		
01:55:05 --> 01:55:08
			oh, the goddess of rain or the goddess
		
01:55:08 --> 01:55:09
			of, you know, bounty or this or that.
		
01:55:09 --> 01:55:11
			It's because people want those things. Right?
		
01:55:12 --> 01:55:15
			So that, that so so that is why
		
01:55:15 --> 01:55:17
			I feel like, you know, it's important where,
		
01:55:17 --> 01:55:18
			you know,
		
01:55:18 --> 01:55:20
			we we need to remind ourselves that this
		
01:55:20 --> 01:55:22
			is, you know, god centered and not centered
		
01:55:22 --> 01:55:25
			around what we what what we believe and
		
01:55:25 --> 01:55:27
			what we want out of it. Right? Because
		
01:55:27 --> 01:55:28
			everyone wants because at the end of the
		
01:55:28 --> 01:55:30
			day, you know, people will try to look
		
01:55:30 --> 01:55:31
			for shortcuts, and people will try to look
		
01:55:31 --> 01:55:33
			for something to pull out of their religion
		
01:55:33 --> 01:55:36
			saying that I want something out of this.
		
01:55:37 --> 01:55:40
			Yeah. And, like, what is deifiable
		
01:55:41 --> 01:55:43
			also changes. Right? Like, you can worship money,
		
01:55:43 --> 01:55:45
			you can worship physical beauty,
		
01:55:46 --> 01:55:48
			you know, you can worship your own desires
		
01:55:48 --> 01:55:50
			Do you see what I mean? And religion
		
01:55:50 --> 01:55:52
			is a very powerful tool.
		
01:55:52 --> 01:55:54
			And when you can manipulate religion for the
		
01:55:54 --> 01:55:55
			masses,
		
01:55:55 --> 01:55:57
			it can create group think. It it can
		
01:55:57 --> 01:55:59
			create all kinds of things. I mean, look
		
01:55:59 --> 01:56:01
			at, like, what people in the world believe
		
01:56:01 --> 01:56:03
			right now. Do you know? There's literally people
		
01:56:03 --> 01:56:05
			in the world who believe right now it's
		
01:56:05 --> 01:56:06
			okay to kill babies.
		
01:56:07 --> 01:56:10
			How how, like, is that a possible thing?
		
01:56:11 --> 01:56:12
			Do you see what I mean? Right? And
		
01:56:12 --> 01:56:15
			they make justifications and excuses for it. Do
		
01:56:15 --> 01:56:16
			you know? And you're just like,
		
01:56:17 --> 01:56:19
			well, what what renders
		
01:56:19 --> 01:56:22
			this line of thinking? Right? And I think
		
01:56:22 --> 01:56:23
			one of the things that you're saying that's
		
01:56:23 --> 01:56:24
			really important
		
01:56:25 --> 01:56:27
			that goes kind of hand in hand with
		
01:56:27 --> 01:56:29
			what Diasdek is saying is, like,
		
01:56:29 --> 01:56:31
			don't be afraid to pick up the Quran
		
01:56:31 --> 01:56:32
			and read it.
		
01:56:33 --> 01:56:34
			Do you know what I mean? Because a
		
01:56:34 --> 01:56:36
			lot of what this conversation is gonna highlight
		
01:56:37 --> 01:56:38
			is not like, hey,
		
01:56:39 --> 01:56:39
			like,
		
01:56:40 --> 01:56:41
			do I struggle
		
01:56:41 --> 01:56:44
			with knowing what is or what isn't?
		
01:56:44 --> 01:56:46
			But the base of my struggle is,
		
01:56:47 --> 01:56:49
			like, I don't know why I do what
		
01:56:49 --> 01:56:50
			I do,
		
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			and
		
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			I potentially don't really know,
		
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			like,
		
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			too much.
		
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			It's not a religion that requires you to
		
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			know too much, do you know?
		
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			But what is getting kind of shooken
		
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			is going to be something that has to
		
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			be accurately named also.
		
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			Do you know what I mean? So how
		
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			can you know what the Quran actually says
		
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			if you don't read the Quran,
		
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			right?
		
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			And it just goes hand in hand. Do
		
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			you see what I mean? Like we're reading
		
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			hadith
		
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			to talk about hadith.
		
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			And we're not just like looking at them
		
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			to say, oh, this is about embryology.
		
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			This is about spirituality.
		
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			This is about this, but to contextualize it
		
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			more, to draw more like message hearing from
		
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			each other so that it becomes actually something
		
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			that can be influencing
		
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			decision making and choices. Do you see what
		
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			I mean?
		
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			Okay. So why don't we do this?
		
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			We'll take a pause here,
		
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			just to give people a couple of things
		
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			later this week.
		
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			Tomorrow, doctor Murmur is gonna be doing his
		
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			halukkah,
		
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			on the Quran.
		
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			On Wednesday,
		
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			doctor Murwa will do her emotional
		
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			and kind of spirituality halukkah. She's one of
		
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			our staff psychologists.
		
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			It's really amazing, halukkah. You should definitely come
		
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			to it.
		
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			You'll you'll gain a lot from it. And
		
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			then after that, we'll do, like,
		
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			the the one that I do on the
		
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			life of the prophet Muhammad, peace be upon
		
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			him.
		
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			We're doing
		
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			a look at the Sira of the Prophet,
		
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			the Meccan period.
		
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			On Thursday,
		
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			we're gonna have a guest speaker come in,
		
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			Anissa Diab.
		
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			She's gonna be talking about,
		
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			how to deal with trauma and grief, a
		
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			lot of different kind of topics relevant
		
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			to some of what it is that we're
		
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			seeing today. It's called
		
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			spiritual crisis, managing soul trauma and burnout.
		
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			And Anissa Diab
		
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			is a mental health clinician with over 10
		
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			years of experience in psychology and counseling.
		
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			So that's gonna be
		
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			this Thursday,
		
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			at 6 PM, and it'll be in, like,
		
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			the rooms right across
		
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			from this window.
		
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			You can see in the building next door,
		
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			but the buildings connect.
		
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			On Friday night, we're gonna be doing
		
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			a black Muslim meetup, part of our black
		
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			Muslim initiative.
		
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			So if you or somebody you know self
		
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			identifies as black,
		
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			one of the community groups that we have
		
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			here as well as a student group is
		
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			a black Muslim initiative is very robust.
		
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			So the idea of this is to convene
		
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			our black identifying community,
		
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			hear from them
		
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			how
		
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			the initiative itself has been going for them,
		
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			any feedback,
		
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			other services as we're kinda getting out of
		
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			this post COVID
		
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			framework,
		
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			and rolling out our community programs more.
		
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			You know, we want to kinda
		
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			put out there again some of the things.
		
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			Like, some of you might have come last
		
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			night to the professionals event that we hosted.
		
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			It went really well. There's about 400 people
		
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			that came out. Our professionals group isn't, like,
		
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			people with jobs necessarily, but people out of
		
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			the undergrad phase of their life,
		
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			even though there were some undergrads that showed
		
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			up yesterday. It's for people who are 23
		
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			and older.
		
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			Yesr, why are you trying to hide your
		
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			face back there? Were you there?
		
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			Yeah? No? Yesr is actually
		
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			57 years old.
		
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			She just looks young for her age.
		
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			But, you know, it's a nice program, and
		
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			we wanna create these kinda segments as entry
		
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			points into the broader community experience.
		
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			So come to that. And Saturday,
		
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			through our converts group and our Latino Muslim
		
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			group, We're really open to the community. We're
		
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			doing an event,
		
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			with an imam. His name is Daniel Hernandez.
		
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			It'll be in both English and Spanish
		
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			and talk about the role of Jesus and
		
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			Mary, peace be upon them, both within Islam
		
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			as a religion.
		
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			You could bring family members to it who
		
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			are not Muslim,
		
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			coworkers, friends, whoever.
		
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			It's one of the things that we try
		
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			to do to create
		
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			a bond
		
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			or understanding,
		
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			especially for communities or families that are blended
		
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			where someone might be a convert and the
		
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			families are trying to understand how to relate.
		
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			You know, it creates that opportunity
		
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			and just a good way for us to
		
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			also learn about some of the kind of
		
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			basic aspects of our religion. So that'll be
		
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			on Saturday
		
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			in the evening,
		
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			in the room upstairs that we do Jumah
		
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			in.
		
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			There'll be dinner provided
		
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			for that event and the black Muslim meetup
		
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			event as well.
		
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			The last thing really quick. Convert brunch.
		
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			Oh, yeah. And on Saturday,
		
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			we're gonna do our monthly convert brunch in
		
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			my apartment.
		
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			So if you're someone who is exploring Islam,
		
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			you're a recent convert or converted,
		
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			like, some time ago,
		
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			or you are a family member or partner
		
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			of somebody in one of those groupings, the
		
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			brunch is open to you.
		
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			We're gonna send out some information about it
		
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			in the next day or 2,
		
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			but try to come, or if you know
		
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			people who would want to come,
		
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			it's usually a really nice
		
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			nice gathering.
		
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			It's potluck style.
		
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			People make a lot of really good stuff
		
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			for it as well.
		
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			Great.
		
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			So why don't we take a pause here,
		
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			and we'll see everybody
		
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			next Monday.
		
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			And then
		
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			we'll only do this for another 2 weeks,
		
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			before the building closes, I think.
		
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			So just so people have that timeline,
		
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			3 Mondays from now is 25th. It's Christmas.
		
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			The building's gonna be closed, and it'll be
		
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			closed
		
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			through the following Monday, which is New Year's,
		
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			January 1st.
		
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			But then we'll pick up again after that,
		
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			Okay.
		
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			Take care.
		
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			I see. You're praying, Isha?
		
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			If anybody wants to join us for Isha,
		
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			we made a jamah beforehand but feel free
		
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			to if
		
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			you wanna pray with him.
		
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			How are you? I'm good. Good.
		
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			What can I do for you? I was
		
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			at the event yesterday, and I saw you
		
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			guys
		
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			Yeah.
		
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			Do you do that? Yeah. Great. I'm gonna
		
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			do, like, social media, graduate designing, something like
		
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			that.