Khalid Latif – First Steps Essentials of Islam #09

Khalid Latif
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The speakers discuss the importance of Islam's focus on culture and not just on celebrating holidays. They emphasize the need for regular events to stimulate cultural engagement and rebuilding relationships with the world. The speakers also emphasize the importance of acceptance of Islam's teachings and finding ways to celebrate the day of eating the day of their busy day. They stress the importance of socializing during busy times and finding ways to celebrate the holiday in a unique way. They also discuss the importance of providing charitable donations and a partnership between the Shia tradition and Islamic culture.
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If you wanna move up a bit,

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we usually have a little smaller of a

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group for this

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program.

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It's a little more intimate.

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You wanna take a minute

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and just introduce yourselves to the people sitting

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around you. I know everyone doesn't know everyone

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else.

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We just kind of share names, how your

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day is going, and we'll get started.

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Okay. I'm about to start a holiday. I

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was like,

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Okay.

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Okay. Should we get started?

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So there are a couple of other things

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related to

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Ramadan

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that

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we wanted to just go over so people

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could kinda get acclimated to them.

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And then kinda move on to a few

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other topics.

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So

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we have

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in Islam just like in other religious traditions,

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celebrations and holidays that take place.

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And

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within the Sunni tradition of Islam,

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there's 2 main holidays

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that take place.

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There

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is a holiday that's at the end of

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the month of Ramadan.

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It's called the Eid ul 5th,

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and there's a holiday

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that is around the Hajj time.

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It's called Eid ul Adha.

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Has anybody heard of these holidays before?

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Yeah. Great.

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So

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the month of Ramadan,

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which is the month that we're in right

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now,

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when it concludes

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on the first day

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of the next month,

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it's called Shawwal,

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is

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the holiday of April 5th.

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And you wanna be able to anticipate

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the holiday,

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coming.

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We're gonna celebrate it here at the Islamic

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Center

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on Friday, April 21st. So if you remember

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last week, I talked about briefly

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how the start and ends of months are

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determined on the Islamic calendar and that you

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have

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a local moon sighting or global moon sighting

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for the actual, like, naked eye.

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Somebody showed me the other day this really,

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interesting way that they were teaching this to

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their kids' public school classes,

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using not like something that I think a

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Muslim person came up with, but maybe they

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did, and that's, you know, that much more

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interesting.

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But they have, like, using Oreos,

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they demonstrate, like, the phases of the moon.

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Right?

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So utilizing, like,

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the outer cookie part of the Oreo

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to kind of distinguish

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kind of the phases of the moon as

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they're dark and then kind of cutting chunks

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off of it. So the white cream makes

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kind of the phase of the moon when

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it's a crescent or it's at its fullest

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and these kinds of things.

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Which if we weren't fasting,

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I'd have us all do that.

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But for those of you who are not

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fasting, I'm fasting.

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And I love Oreos,

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and I would be miserable watching you all

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eat orchids as well.

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So those were like the 2 traditional modes

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of determining the start and end of a

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month. And then a third mode of utilizing

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calculations,

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where

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people already are aware scientifically of what the

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start and end phases are,

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of the moon,

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in terms of kind of how it cycles

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through

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a crescent to a full moon and then

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back down again.

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So we already know that we're gonna do

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here at our community

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on Friday, April 21st.

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We'll have prayers in the park,

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right behind us,

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near the arch. We do a really big

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brunch that's open to everybody.

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You're more than welcome

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to attend here if you can. And then

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we simultaneously

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do

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potentially

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a second

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celebration of Eid based off of also a

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local moon sighting opinion.

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That primarily,

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our Shia community

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adheres to the Sheikh Faz Jafar.

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We have opportunity

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to celebrate Eid here twice potentially, if you'd

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like.

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But likely, it's gonna all end up being

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on the same day, which is at Friday.

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There's a potential of it being Friday Saturday.

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Does that make sense? Does anybody have any

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questions on that? Because it tends to be

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something that comes up

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only around, like, holiday times

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because nobody's really paying attention to things. Like

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I said last week, you wanna revive, like,

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as a practice.

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Islam is very much so rooted

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in kind of an elemental relationship with the

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world around you. Right? So we're taught to,

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like,

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know our prayer times by a cyclical pattern

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of the sun. Right? You are connected to,

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water through making wudu. Right? We wash up

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for prayer. And so here too, like the

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moon cycles,

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are things that you can only

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see

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the moon if you're looking at it, so

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to speak. Right? So we're taught to engage

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nature in that way.

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If we didn't live in the middle of

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Manhattan,

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you know, we'd probably be able to do

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this a little bit differently.

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But maybe at some point as COVID restrictions

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are relaxed, we can start kinda like monthly

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trips upstate

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that people go see if they could actually

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see the moon, but something you wanna try

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to do and revive as a practice, and

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people do this all over the world.

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So with Eid al Fitr, the first day

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of Shawwal,

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it's like an actual holiday.

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And if you are a member for those

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of you here, like, 3, 4 weeks ago

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when we read the article called Islam and

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the Cultural Imperative.

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We were looking at how culture relates to

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Islam as a religion.

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And the fundamental argument in that paper, which

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was written by a convert who's a scholar

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of Islam, doctor Omar Farooq Abdullah.

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He basically says,

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you know, Islam

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is like into a stream,

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a river,

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something flowing

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as water

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and the bedrock upon which it flows is

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culture. And so the water takes on kind

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of the hue and the color of the

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bedrock that is flowing over. So to Islam

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relates to the culture that it intertwines with

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in a way where it doesn't necessitate

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committing cultural apostasy,

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but it blends with the culture. So Islam

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in China looks Chinese.

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Islam in Malaysia looks Malaysian.

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Islam in,

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you know,

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Singapore, it looks Singaporean,

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Gambian Islam, Senegalese Islam, Turkish, Bengali,

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etcetera.

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Why is this important?

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Because

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you're not gonna celebrate the holiday

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experientially

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in the same way as somebody who might

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come from a different cultural background to your

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own. And there's gonna be Muslim people that

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you meet who they're gonna say, oh, the

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night before Eid, like people all get together

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and they put henna on their hands

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and they do in South Asian culture what

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they'll call like a Chandra which means just

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like moon night. You know, they're looking for

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the moon, but it's not that that is

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not a permissible thing to do. It's not

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like an absolute thing to do. Do you

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know what I mean?

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So if you went to people

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who are Muslim in China, they're probably not

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doing that.

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Right? And it's more of a manifestation of

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how culturally people relate to something, but you

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want to be ready for that. So you're

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not in a place where there's absolutes that

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are presented to you and then it gets

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confusing.

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You know, you don't have to wear a

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cultural attire that's not your own on the

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day of Eid, right? You're gonna celebrate it

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as your own kind of celebration.

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You also don't want to make your experience

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absolute,

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right? For those who it's your first time

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here, this is a class that we do

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that is for people who are trying to

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rebuild a foundational relationship with their faith to

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be in a place where they're new to

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Islam or exploring Islam. So you kind of

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understand

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the basics of ritual, theology, spirituality

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and just what it's like to live as

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a Muslim.

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What I love about our community

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is on the day of Eid, everybody comes

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out. Right? And the weather, you know, thank

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God

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is getting better. Right? It's a little rainy

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today, but there's still benefit in that, you

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know, because you imagine you were fasting and

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it's like a 100 degrees outside and very

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humid.

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It'd be just a totally different experience.

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But I want you to think about, like,

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where we're seated right now and looking out

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of this amazing unobstructed view that we've been

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spoiled with of the park, that whole park

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gets filled with, like, 3 or 4000 Muslim

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people,

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And

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they're all kind of engaged

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within

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the celebration of the holiday

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based off

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of who they are

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in their entirety.

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Right? So everybody's not wearing, like, a South

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Asian shawarma.

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Everybody's not wearing like gulf Arab attire of

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long thobes.

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Right? Everyone's not dressed in abayas

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and these kinds of things

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or, you know,

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any kind of locale that you would think

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about. But you have people that are coming

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and in full force

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celebrating their identity.

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Right? You see like amazing

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kinda

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colors from people in our community who are

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coming from a West African background.

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You see distinct modes of dress from people

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who are coming from Malaysia, Indonesia.

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You see just a lot of diversity because

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we have people in our community

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who are like Italian, who are Scottish, who

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are German. People who just see themselves only

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as American,

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and it's all blended altogether.

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There's not a lot of gatherings that are

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like that that exist in the world. You

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know what I mean? And if you want

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to see how deep Islam can be,

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bigger than just your own experience with it,

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which doesn't mean that your experience is invalid,

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but it's not absolute.

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Do you get what I'm saying? Does that

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make sense?

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What we're gonna do, so you also ready

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yourself for it, if you're gonna celebrate here,

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is the way that we line up for

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our Eid prayer

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is, you know, I'll stand

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at the base of the arch. We have

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a sound system that goes back.

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And instead of having

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the men pray in the front and the

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women pray in the back, we have a

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separation that goes in the middle and the

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men are praying on one side and the

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women are praying on the other side. It's

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also a completely legitimate way to pray your

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prayers.

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People will say, well, why don't we pray

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like that here? Well, it's more of like

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a confine of space than anything

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but when we're out there and the park

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is ours, right, because I'll talk about this

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in a little bit, but we're praying in

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the morning time.

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There's nobody in the park like that early

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in the morning. All the NYU kids are

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asleep

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because they're not waking up for class early.

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You know, none of the guys who sell

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weed are up at 8 o'clock in the

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morning selling weed. The people who are playing

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instruments,

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they're not,

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you know, like, out there so early. So

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it's just like in a place of stillness.

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And you want to just come to see

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just how beautifully deep Islam actually is.

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I can't tell you that's what it's like

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in every community,

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but it doesn't have to be like that

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in every community,

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right? People can have

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their own cultural engagements.

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And many Muslim spaces

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tend to be deeply rooted

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also sociologically

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in shared race, shared culture, shared class. I'm

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not saying it's a good or a bad

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thing. It's just a phenomenon

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as to how we relate.

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So if you go to your local mosque

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in New York, where there's 200 mosques in

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New York City,

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you will likely find

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a majority

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of one cultural background.

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Right?

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And I don't want you to think about

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that as a good thing or a bad

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thing. It's just a thing. You know? But

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if you come here, you're gonna find people

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from all different backgrounds that are going to

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be coming here

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and they are going to be in a

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place where they're ready to celebrate.

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You want to also be in a place

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where you're ready to celebrate,

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right? It's a holiday.

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And what you're celebrating

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on Eid ul Fitr

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is everything that you've achieved in the month

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of Ramadan.

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You're in a place where you anticipate

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on the first of Shawwal,

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Ramadan is done. I'm looking back now at

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my growth over the course of this month.

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It's not in comparison to anybody else. It's

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not a religion

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that utilizes

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delusional senses of self

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in terms of introspection,

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superiority

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complexes

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that give false senses of grandeur

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or inferiority

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that give delusional senses of insignificance.

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You're not in a race against the person

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next to you, but it's more about me

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becoming attuned to myself. Interiority

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is the mode of introspection

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and my growth even if it's gradual is

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still growth nonetheless.

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Right? And so on the day of Eid,

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at the end of Ramadan,

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that's like a mode of celebration,

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right? You're in this place where you're like

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recognizing through the awareness that you have. What's

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gonna be really weird for a lot of

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you who are fasting this month

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is that

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on the morning

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of Eid,

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like, you're gonna eat something

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and you're gonna have gone from so many

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days

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of not eating

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or even if you had an exemption of

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fasting

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it's still like there in the back of

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your head, right? Should I be putting this

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in my mouth or not?

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The whole idea

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with it being a holiday

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is also to not in like a day,

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let go of everything you gained in 30

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days

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by overindulging

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in different ways

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and now

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relenting fully

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to kind of a lack of self restraint.

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Does that make sense? Right? Where we're just

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kinda

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going into a place where our celestial growth

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is now limited.

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It doesn't mean you shouldn't eat but you

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wanna have mindful eating. You know, mindful sharing

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of sweets and gifts and all these things

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that are still rooted in an element of

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gratitude.

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Right? So every bite you're taking of something

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to still have awareness and consciousness of it.

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You know, how did this come to me?

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Where did it come from? And one of

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the things that you'll find

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that in Islam,

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a lot of the ritual and practice

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is also deeply attached to elements of social

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cohesion and social equity. It's not like a

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private religion, the way people think about religion

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in a personal sense, but it's a religion

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that also teaches you to be connected to

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those that come from different backgrounds than you.

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So on the day of the evil 5th,

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one of the things that you do prior

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to the holiday is you give a particular

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charity

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that is called Zakatul

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Fitr

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or some people will call it

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Sadaqatul

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Fitr.

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And essentially what this is,

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it serves like 2 purposes.

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Prior to the day of Eid,

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each person

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who has, like, wealth and means

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per person in your family,

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you're going to give this particular charity

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and it's given to people who are in

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need within your kind of local community ideally,

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but can give it really to anybody who's

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in need anywhere.

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Right? The idea being so that they have

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a means to also celebrate the holiday.

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It ends up being, like, 10 to $15

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per person in your family. Right? So you

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do the math.

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If you have,

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like 5,000 people just in this community, where

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there's a 1,000,000 Muslims in New York City

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and let's say of the million, right,

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half a1000000 of them

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are giving

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this $10,

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$15

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per person, right? That's 5 to 7 and

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a half $1,000,000

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by itself.

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Let alone the other aspects of charity that

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we'll talk about probably next week.

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But for the purposes of our conversation,

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the holiday is also celebrated

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by engaging people who are in need.

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Right? One of the first things that you

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are required to do

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if you have the wealth and means to

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do so

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is to engage in an act that is

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mindful of the fact that there's

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all kinds of people who celebrate this,

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inclusive of people who don't have any money.

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They don't have wealth.

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Right? Does that make sense?

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The other reason that this charity is given

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is as a means of education for any

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shortcomings that somebody might have in their month

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of Ramadan,

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Right? So the way that, for example, we

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haven't talked about prayer yet and we will,

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but like the extra prayers you pray,

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like outside of what's obligatory. If you remember,

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we went through the different categories that acts

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can be placed in. Obligatory

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is far. Right? You have what's recommended.

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What's the hub? You have what's neutral, muba.

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You have what's disliked, makru,

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and you have what's strictly prohibited or haram.

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You have,

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I forgot what I was talking about. What

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was I talking about?

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I don't know. That's the only word you've

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ever heard of.

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So I guess So I guess the system

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that is the for for anything that you

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did wrong during Oh, yeah. So when you're

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praying,

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right, you have obligatory prayers

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and the recommended prayers,

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they also

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serve as a means

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to feel like inadequacies

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in your obligatory prayers. Right? So we're taught,

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for example,

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when we stand in front of God and

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he assesses our prayers,

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one of the things that he'll tell the

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angels to do

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is look to the extra prayers

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to compensate for

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inadequacy

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in the obligatory prayers. Right? So the idea

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with this charity

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is twofold.

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1, you want people to also celebrate the

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holiday wherever they are. And 2 that

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it serves as a means of recompense for

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anything

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that was deficient in your own like practice

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of Ramadan. Does that make sense? Yeah.

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What happens now on this day?

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He coming.

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This is Kareem Gabriel Latif

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dressed with a Mega Man jacket on. Why

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are you looking so shy? I'd be embarrassed.

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Kareem is my son. He's not a random

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child. I've

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come into interaction with. Is this all I

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can tell you, boo? I think

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so.

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Me and my computer?

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Where is the adults in your life that

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you just walked into this

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room? Is anybody else here? Yeah.

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Okay. Here, you can take this.

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Got it?

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I'm glad we got to spend this time

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together.

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What

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just happened?

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So.

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Okay.

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K. I have a 7 year old and

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a 10 year old who from tonight through

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next Sunday, they're on vacation. You should probably

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see them running around here a lot.

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So what happens on the day of their

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eve is gonna vary from person to person.

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My strong recommendation,

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whether it's your first time,

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you're still learning about Islam, you've experienced Eid,

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like, for years in your life, you want

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to celebrate the holiday as if it's in

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a holiday. Right? And as you're prepping right

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now, allowing for yourself to think.

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Even if the people in your life are

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not Muslim,

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you have family members who are not Muslim,

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you have friends who are not Muslim,

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there's nothing that restricts you from giving gifts

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on your holiday.

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Right? You can spread love through the giving

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of gifts. You are in a place where

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it cements relationships and allows for people to

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experience things in a different

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way. When you are in a place where

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sometimes you'll go to some communities, they don't

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know how to celebrate, and it's like very

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miserable. And so it won't be miserable for

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us. But the way that the day of

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Eid starts

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is

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after fajr time,

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which is the first prayer of the day,

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right, at sunrise,

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like, true dawn, you know, this is when

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you stop eating in Ramadan.

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Right? That's kind of the mark there.

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And

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we have the second prayer of the day,

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Dhuhr

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In between these prayers,

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there's going to be

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the Eid prayer.

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The Eid prayer is a little bit

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similar, but still different from if you've ever

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attended a Friday prayer service

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in a Muslim space

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where you have a sermon

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plus a prayer,

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but the sermon

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precedes the prayer

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on Friday?

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Right? How How many of you have ever

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been to a Jomamah prayer on Friday before

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by a raise of hands?

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Yeah. Great. Some of you haven't. Some of

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you have.

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So on Eid,

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it's different in that

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the prayer precedes the sermon.

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And there's a distinct

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kinda set of mechanics to the prayer for

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the Eid prayer

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that'll vary slightly

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from community to community

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based off of some nuanced opinions

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on how the prayer is conducted.

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But it's pretty much the same that in

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each standing of the prayer,

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you have an additional set of

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what's called the takabir.

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The person leading the prayer will say Allahu

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Akbar and you'll raise your hands kinda up

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at that moment.

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And then the prayer will kinda continue and

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ensue in the way that it is, but

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it'll be explained to you wherever you go

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to pray the Eid prayer.

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Following that, there'll be a sermon that takes

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place,

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that will have 2 parts to it. And

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then after that,

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you're gonna have a lot of people that

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just start hugging each other. Right?

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And you wanna be ready for that.

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The person next to you will likely turn

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to you and then just give you a

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hug. Even if you don't know them and

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you don't wanna be caught off guard,

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that's the way that people kinda celebrate,

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on the day of Eid.

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Right? And

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Muslims

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have a lot of challenges around race and

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culture and class like any community,

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but there's certain moments

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where they just come together in a really

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beautiful way. Right? Like when I'm traveling,

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there's been numerous times when

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I'm going from New York to a place

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that doesn't warrant me taking a plane, and

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I'll drive down

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to, like, Washington DC

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or to Boston if I'm not taking a

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train and I have people with me. And

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numerous times I've stopped at rest areas

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to pray

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and random people join me in the prayer.

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Right? The way we have our 5 daily

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prayers.

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Has this ever happened to anybody that you're

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praying someplace and someone just comes not in

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a prayer space, but you're like outside praying

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and someone comes and joins you in prayer.

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Does that ever happen to you? It has

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happened to you. How do you feel when

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that happens?

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Happy. Happy. Right? You're not ever like, oh,

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man. I'm in prayer and some random stranger

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is behind me and what's about to happen

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here. But you always feel good.

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And it's unique

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in our religion's experience

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that random strangers can meet just in that

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moment

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and join each other

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in prayer

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and feel elated at the fact that someone

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that I don't know and will never likely

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meet again, we interacted in this moment and

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it brings joy to my heart. Right?

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That's like a pretty interesting phenomenon.

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Similarly,

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at the end of the Eid sermon, the

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chutba,

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random strangers are gonna start hugging you. Right?

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Like, if you are a convert in this

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room and you've converted in our community

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at times when there's a gathering of people

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around you, people just come and start, like,

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giving you hugs and stuff. They're just happy.

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Right? You know? You don't you don't have

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to. You could, like, say, I need my

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space. You know what I mean? But fundamentally,

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that's something that's gonna happen. It's like meant

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to be a joyous

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celebration.

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You know?

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What we try to do here is create

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opportunities

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throughout the day for different groupings of people

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to interact with each other.

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But you wanna be mindful, especially if you're

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in this room as somebody who's born into

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Islam,

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that you're sharing a space right now with

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people exploring Islam or people who are recent

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converts to Islam

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or maybe they converted a long time ago,

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What experientially it also means

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to be the only Muslim in your family

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on a Muslim holiday?

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And where and how you are purposely creating

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opportunity

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to ensure that no one is also celebrating

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a holiday by themselves.

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Right?

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And this becomes

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an experience for many people.

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Not so much in our community

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at this center,

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but in many Muslim communities

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that now share

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culture as a common source of bond or

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class as a common source of bond. They're

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not necessarily thinking

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that that person that I jumped up and

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down for and hugged when they converted,

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they also probably need to be invited somewhere

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to celebrate the holiday.

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Right?

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Do you hear what I mean? So you

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want to think for yourself,

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like, how will I play a role in

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ensuring

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that there's opportunities for people to engage in

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this?

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What are things that people do?

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There's not like a lot of things that

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Muslims do other than eat. Right? You know,

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we're not we're not like doing so much

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other stuff

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that, you know, you'd be like, yeah, you're

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gonna go out and do this. You're gonna

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go out and do that. So people spend

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the day quite often

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interacting with friends. They're eating with friends.

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Gifts don't have to be lavish. You know

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what I mean? If you come here, there's

00:28:43 --> 00:28:45

gonna be, like, kids probably. They're praying with

00:28:45 --> 00:28:47

us. You can buy bags of candy and

00:28:47 --> 00:28:49

just give it to little kids. Right? You

00:28:49 --> 00:28:51

saw my son. If you came up to

00:28:51 --> 00:28:54

him, he has no concept of, like, stranger

00:28:54 --> 00:28:55

danger. You know? So if you give the

00:28:55 --> 00:28:58

guy, like, anything, he's gonna, like, be sticking

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it in his mouth as he's asking me,

00:29:00 --> 00:29:01

is it okay if I can eat this?

00:29:01 --> 00:29:04

Right? But it's a holiday. So you want

00:29:04 --> 00:29:05

to allow for people

00:29:05 --> 00:29:08

to be creative in their celebration of a

00:29:08 --> 00:29:10

holiday. Do you know what I mean? Does

00:29:10 --> 00:29:12

that make sense? Right? And it makes a

00:29:12 --> 00:29:14

big difference, you know?

00:29:14 --> 00:29:16

But to think about that as you're navigating

00:29:16 --> 00:29:18

some of it. So I'd like for you

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to do is is just turn to the

00:29:20 --> 00:29:21

person next to you.

00:29:22 --> 00:29:23

How do you anticipate

00:29:23 --> 00:29:25

celebrating on the day of the eve?

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What does that day look like for you

00:29:28 --> 00:29:28

as of right

00:29:29 --> 00:29:30

now? Ideally.

00:29:30 --> 00:29:32

Right? And you don't want to be in

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a place where you're kinda you know, it's

00:29:35 --> 00:29:37

your first time or you don't know. But

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what do holidays like, what should they feel

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like? What should they look like experientially?

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And then we can kinda come back and

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discuss. Do you understand the prompt? Okay. So

00:29:47 --> 00:29:49

what what should it be like on the

00:29:49 --> 00:29:51

day of Eid for you, for anybody who's

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coming, and then we'll come back and speak

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about it a little bit. But go ahead.

00:30:05 --> 00:30:07

And this year is, like, having a community.

00:30:08 --> 00:30:09

I definitely wanna be here.

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Last year, I did have community with

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not leaving here. I'm not going home. I'm,

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like, spending the day.

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I'm not going home because I literally my

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friend drove me home. And I was like,

00:30:45 --> 00:30:45

what do I do now? Oh, my friend.

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I'm feeling a bit awkward with, like, there's

00:30:45 --> 00:30:46

no people around, and then we can't

00:32:18 --> 00:32:20

Okay. So what are some of the things

00:32:20 --> 00:32:21

you're talking about?

00:32:22 --> 00:32:24

How do you foresee, like, that day looking

00:32:24 --> 00:32:25

for

00:32:25 --> 00:32:26

you? It's a holiday.

00:32:27 --> 00:32:29

Like, how how would you feel, like, celebrating?

00:32:30 --> 00:32:31

What did you discuss?

00:32:37 --> 00:32:38

Who wants to start?

00:32:43 --> 00:32:45

We talked about Hannah. Hannah? Yeah. Yeah. Great.

00:32:47 --> 00:32:49

What about it? Like, wearing it. Like, having

00:32:49 --> 00:32:51

the little design and

00:32:53 --> 00:32:55

Why is that enjoyable? A form of celebration.

00:32:55 --> 00:32:56

Yeah.

00:32:57 --> 00:32:59

Yeah. Great. It's a fun thing to do.

00:32:59 --> 00:33:00

Right? What

00:33:01 --> 00:33:01

else?

00:33:02 --> 00:33:04

For me, it's really, like,

00:33:04 --> 00:33:05

embracing

00:33:05 --> 00:33:06

people that day.

00:33:07 --> 00:33:09

You know, getting to hug, getting to celebrate.

00:33:11 --> 00:33:12

Lots of embracing.

00:33:13 --> 00:33:14

Amazing.

00:33:14 --> 00:33:17

Yeah. I stand at the arch

00:33:18 --> 00:33:19

and select a line of, like,

00:33:20 --> 00:33:22

strange men I've never met in my life.

00:33:22 --> 00:33:24

This is how come start. Giving me hugs.

00:33:24 --> 00:33:26

My kids get annoyed. They're like, how many

00:33:26 --> 00:33:28

people are you gonna do this with? I'm

00:33:28 --> 00:33:28

like,

00:33:29 --> 00:33:31

well, there's 4,000 people here.

00:33:31 --> 00:33:34

Anything? I'm I'm a small guy. Right? Like,

00:33:34 --> 00:33:35

it's not you know?

00:33:36 --> 00:33:38

Because it's it's, you know, it's

00:33:38 --> 00:33:39

nice, I guess. Yeah.

00:33:40 --> 00:33:42

What else? What do you do to celebrate

00:33:42 --> 00:33:42

the holiday?

00:33:44 --> 00:33:47

Yeah. Eat some good food, exchange some gifts.

00:33:47 --> 00:33:48

Yeah.

00:33:48 --> 00:33:50

Anything else? Yeah. With that room, we have

00:33:50 --> 00:33:52

here still, like, 2 hours on 3 hours

00:33:52 --> 00:33:54

to go eat with the people. Uh-huh. Everybody

00:33:54 --> 00:33:55

has an opinion where we should go, and

00:33:55 --> 00:33:58

then nobody does. And then since about 2

00:33:58 --> 00:33:59

hours, eventually, it goes off.

00:33:59 --> 00:34:00

Yeah.

00:34:02 --> 00:34:03

Any other thoughts?

00:34:04 --> 00:34:06

Like, we visit family.

00:34:06 --> 00:34:09

Visit family. Yeah. If you can do that,

00:34:09 --> 00:34:10

that's the nice thing to do. It's just

00:34:10 --> 00:34:12

like any other holiday.

00:34:12 --> 00:34:15

You know? And you wanna treat it in

00:34:15 --> 00:34:15

that way.

00:34:16 --> 00:34:18

We start our prayers here

00:34:18 --> 00:34:22

probably, like, around 8 AM or so, 9

00:34:22 --> 00:34:22

AM,

00:34:23 --> 00:34:23

maybe,

00:34:24 --> 00:34:25

depending if it was on a weekend or

00:34:25 --> 00:34:26

not.

00:34:27 --> 00:34:29

You can do this anytime between these two

00:34:29 --> 00:34:31

prayers. When I was growing up,

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you know, they'd pray this at, like, 6:30

00:34:35 --> 00:34:36

in the morning sometimes.

00:34:36 --> 00:34:38

And I would feel miserable,

00:34:39 --> 00:34:39

half asleep.

00:34:40 --> 00:34:41

And my dad's like, we gotta run to

00:34:41 --> 00:34:42

go do this.

00:34:43 --> 00:34:45

Everyone's also super exhausted.

00:34:46 --> 00:34:48

We're not doing that. Why we would start

00:34:48 --> 00:34:50

at 8 is just because there are some

00:34:50 --> 00:34:52

people who have to get to work. They

00:34:52 --> 00:34:54

don't have the option of missing work that

00:34:54 --> 00:34:56

day because of the nature of their job

00:34:56 --> 00:34:59

industry. Right? And so it's a privilege to

00:34:59 --> 00:35:01

have the ability to take a day off

00:35:01 --> 00:35:03

from work without getting penalized in a way

00:35:03 --> 00:35:05

that you can even get terminated from your

00:35:05 --> 00:35:07

job, which is all the more reason as

00:35:07 --> 00:35:08

to why if that's not your reality,

00:35:09 --> 00:35:11

you should be taking the day off for

00:35:11 --> 00:35:12

your holiday.

00:35:12 --> 00:35:14

Right? Because there's a ton of people who

00:35:14 --> 00:35:15

would love to do that,

00:35:15 --> 00:35:17

but they're just not set up in roles

00:35:17 --> 00:35:19

where that's, like, an option.

00:35:20 --> 00:35:20

You know?

00:35:22 --> 00:35:22

And so

00:35:23 --> 00:35:25

any other thoughts on, like, how to celebrate

00:35:25 --> 00:35:27

things you could do? It doesn't also have

00:35:27 --> 00:35:29

to be in large numbers.

00:35:29 --> 00:35:32

You know? It can be in very small

00:35:32 --> 00:35:34

scales. You get groupings of people together.

00:35:34 --> 00:35:36

You find different people.

00:35:36 --> 00:35:39

We typically do some things for the converts

00:35:39 --> 00:35:39

in our community,

00:35:40 --> 00:35:42

where we'll have, like, a picnic in Prospect

00:35:42 --> 00:35:45

Park or meet up for lunch or dinner.

00:35:46 --> 00:35:47

Our broader community,

00:35:47 --> 00:35:50

I think, will have a couple of events

00:35:50 --> 00:35:52

that'll be, like, larger scale or smaller scale.

00:35:53 --> 00:35:56

But you're also able to just kinda think

00:35:56 --> 00:35:58

about proactively how to do that for yourself.

00:35:58 --> 00:36:01

And it's hard. Right? Because the ideal is

00:36:01 --> 00:36:04

that well, someone would have thought to include

00:36:04 --> 00:36:05

me in something.

00:36:05 --> 00:36:09

But to shift the paradigm to recognize, hey.

00:36:09 --> 00:36:11

If there's not something that I've been invited

00:36:11 --> 00:36:14

to, there's probably thousands of people literally who

00:36:14 --> 00:36:15

haven't been invited to something.

00:36:16 --> 00:36:18

So let me kinda start up what needs

00:36:18 --> 00:36:20

to be done. And if any of you

00:36:20 --> 00:36:22

have ideas that you want us to amplify,

00:36:23 --> 00:36:25

just let me know as long as, like,

00:36:25 --> 00:36:27

they're not crazy things. Right? We were gonna

00:36:27 --> 00:36:29

at one point because we didn't know where

00:36:29 --> 00:36:31

we were gonna do and what COVID protocol

00:36:31 --> 00:36:32

was.

00:36:32 --> 00:36:34

So one of our potential venues to fit

00:36:34 --> 00:36:36

people was we were gonna rent out Webster

00:36:36 --> 00:36:39

Hall on 12th Street. John Hope people know

00:36:39 --> 00:36:41

where Webster Hall is. Right? What's Webster Hall?

00:36:41 --> 00:36:43

He likes smiling, Victor.

00:36:44 --> 00:36:46

It's it's a music venue. Yeah. It's like

00:36:46 --> 00:36:47

the club. You know?

00:36:48 --> 00:36:50

So, you know, we were gonna have Ethan

00:36:50 --> 00:36:52

in a in a in a club in

00:36:52 --> 00:36:53

in a square.

00:36:54 --> 00:36:55

Like, it fit us, and it was it

00:36:55 --> 00:36:56

was empty.

00:36:56 --> 00:36:59

But we're gonna do it in the park,

00:36:59 --> 00:37:00

here.

00:37:01 --> 00:37:04

But if you were like, hey. You know,

00:37:04 --> 00:37:07

can you advertise this, like, Eve party that's

00:37:07 --> 00:37:10

happening late night at this club? I was

00:37:10 --> 00:37:12

like, no. I'm sorry. We can't do that

00:37:12 --> 00:37:14

because I'll get fired and people will be

00:37:14 --> 00:37:16

really upset with me. But within reason. If

00:37:16 --> 00:37:19

there's things that you have that you feel

00:37:19 --> 00:37:21

like will create opportunity, that has whatever limitations.

00:37:22 --> 00:37:23

You wanna get, like, 10 people together, it

00:37:23 --> 00:37:25

could be 10 people. You have a place

00:37:25 --> 00:37:27

that could fit a 1000 people, it's a

00:37:27 --> 00:37:29

1000 people. But things that we could help

00:37:29 --> 00:37:30

to amplify.

00:37:30 --> 00:37:32

But you yourself individually

00:37:32 --> 00:37:35

should be ready to celebrate the holiday. It's

00:37:35 --> 00:37:36

a holiday.

00:37:37 --> 00:37:39

And think about also within whatever capacity

00:37:40 --> 00:37:42

that you're just spreading like joy to people

00:37:42 --> 00:37:43

because it's a holiday.

00:37:44 --> 00:37:46

Right? So the people who are in your

00:37:46 --> 00:37:46

lives,

00:37:47 --> 00:37:48

inclusive of those

00:37:48 --> 00:37:50

who are not Muslim,

00:37:51 --> 00:37:53

that are your family members, your relatives.

00:37:54 --> 00:37:57

There's nothing that restricts you from being able

00:37:57 --> 00:37:58

to extend

00:37:59 --> 00:38:00

the celebratory

00:38:00 --> 00:38:01

nature of the holiday

00:38:02 --> 00:38:03

to them. Do you get what I mean?

00:38:03 --> 00:38:04

Does that make sense?

00:38:05 --> 00:38:07

Okay. So how the day will lay out

00:38:07 --> 00:38:10

here, because there's a particular to it because

00:38:10 --> 00:38:12

it's a Friday. Right? And so you're gonna

00:38:12 --> 00:38:14

go from an Eid prayer

00:38:14 --> 00:38:15

to now instead

00:38:16 --> 00:38:17

of, like, there's

00:38:17 --> 00:38:19

prayers. There's Friday prayers.

00:38:19 --> 00:38:20

If you look at books

00:38:21 --> 00:38:22

of Islamic law,

00:38:23 --> 00:38:25

they'll say if you attended the Eid prayer

00:38:25 --> 00:38:26

in Hudba,

00:38:26 --> 00:38:28

you don't have to go to Jummah that

00:38:28 --> 00:38:29

day. Right?

00:38:30 --> 00:38:33

If anybody has to go to Jummah that

00:38:33 --> 00:38:36

day, it's the person that delivers the chutba.

00:38:36 --> 00:38:40

That's me. Right? It's not you. So I

00:38:40 --> 00:38:41

would be required

00:38:41 --> 00:38:44

to do both things. Right? Yay for me.

00:38:44 --> 00:38:46

But where you're in a place where you

00:38:46 --> 00:38:47

contextualize

00:38:48 --> 00:38:50

that, the reason as to why

00:38:50 --> 00:38:51

one would be,

00:38:52 --> 00:38:52

like,

00:38:53 --> 00:38:55

exempt from attending the Friday prayer,

00:38:55 --> 00:38:57

if the Friday prayer is on the same

00:38:57 --> 00:39:00

day as the eve prayer, is because

00:39:00 --> 00:39:04

everybody came from everywhere to celebrate eve together.

00:39:04 --> 00:39:07

Right? The way many communities were set up,

00:39:07 --> 00:39:09

you'd have small mosques and then you'd have

00:39:09 --> 00:39:11

a Friday mosque and then the small mosque

00:39:11 --> 00:39:14

would be empty on Fridays during Jummah time,

00:39:14 --> 00:39:17

the Friday prayer, because all the people would

00:39:17 --> 00:39:19

go from the little mosque to the big

00:39:19 --> 00:39:20

Friday mosque.

00:39:20 --> 00:39:23

The same way the small mosques would have

00:39:23 --> 00:39:25

everybody to come and pray in the Friday

00:39:25 --> 00:39:25

mosque.

00:39:26 --> 00:39:28

All the Friday mosques would get together in

00:39:28 --> 00:39:31

an area and everybody prayed to eat together.

00:39:31 --> 00:39:34

Meaning if somebody was coming to Washington Square

00:39:34 --> 00:39:35

Park to pray with us,

00:39:36 --> 00:39:38

they were coming from miles away.

00:39:38 --> 00:39:41

And so for them to have to also

00:39:41 --> 00:39:42

stick around

00:39:42 --> 00:39:43

or get to it,

00:39:44 --> 00:39:47

the idea was they already had one sermon

00:39:47 --> 00:39:50

that day, and their distance from their locale

00:39:51 --> 00:39:53

because everybody's coming together

00:39:53 --> 00:39:56

doesn't then require them to have to kinda

00:39:56 --> 00:39:57

go to a second one. Does that make

00:39:57 --> 00:39:58

sense?

00:39:58 --> 00:40:00

We're gonna have Eid prayers here, and then

00:40:00 --> 00:40:03

we're gonna have Jomah prayers here. Right? I

00:40:03 --> 00:40:05

would love for you all to join me,

00:40:05 --> 00:40:06

so I'm not the only one in the

00:40:06 --> 00:40:07

room.

00:40:07 --> 00:40:10

But it's usually also like filled with people

00:40:11 --> 00:40:14

because people want to continue to stick around

00:40:14 --> 00:40:17

given just the vibe that's here is very

00:40:17 --> 00:40:18

upbeat.

00:40:18 --> 00:40:20

And you'll see a lot of people taking

00:40:20 --> 00:40:20

pictures.

00:40:21 --> 00:40:23

People are gonna be eating brunch together,

00:40:24 --> 00:40:26

and they're not looking for a reason for

00:40:26 --> 00:40:27

it to stop. They want for it to

00:40:27 --> 00:40:28

continue.

00:40:28 --> 00:40:30

But on the nuance of that, like, that's

00:40:30 --> 00:40:33

where somebody might tell you, oh, I heard

00:40:33 --> 00:40:35

if Eid is on a Friday,

00:40:35 --> 00:40:37

then you don't have to go to the

00:40:37 --> 00:40:39

Jummah prayer. Well, it's based in that ruling.

00:40:39 --> 00:40:41

Does that make sense? Right?

00:40:41 --> 00:40:43

It's a holiday also.

00:40:43 --> 00:40:46

So the idea is that there is unique

00:40:46 --> 00:40:47

blessing to the day.

00:40:48 --> 00:40:49

And just like many Muslims

00:40:50 --> 00:40:52

for however many of the last nights of

00:40:52 --> 00:40:52

Ramadan

00:40:53 --> 00:40:55

have been, like, praying at night and doing

00:40:55 --> 00:40:56

these things,

00:40:56 --> 00:40:58

Praying in the night before

00:40:58 --> 00:41:01

Eid is also an important thing to do.

00:41:01 --> 00:41:03

Right? Making du'a in that night is an

00:41:03 --> 00:41:06

important thing to do, Engaging in acts of

00:41:06 --> 00:41:08

charity and these kinds of things. And it's

00:41:08 --> 00:41:09

very particular

00:41:10 --> 00:41:11

to understand

00:41:11 --> 00:41:13

in the spiritual tradition of Islam

00:41:14 --> 00:41:15

that with immediacy

00:41:15 --> 00:41:17

at the end of the month of Ramadan,

00:41:18 --> 00:41:19

people now have an opportunity

00:41:20 --> 00:41:21

to choose choices

00:41:22 --> 00:41:24

based off of what they learned they had

00:41:24 --> 00:41:25

capacity to do in the month

00:41:26 --> 00:41:28

that is inclusive of prayers

00:41:28 --> 00:41:31

and fasting and whatever else ritualistically,

00:41:31 --> 00:41:34

but also the capacity to just have, like,

00:41:34 --> 00:41:34

self restraint,

00:41:35 --> 00:41:37

to be mindful in your actions

00:41:37 --> 00:41:40

that doesn't suddenly now stop or get muted

00:41:40 --> 00:41:41

at the end of the month. And that

00:41:41 --> 00:41:44

first night and how you spend it

00:41:44 --> 00:41:45

is important

00:41:46 --> 00:41:47

because you don't want it to be something

00:41:47 --> 00:41:48

that foregoes

00:41:49 --> 00:41:50

what it was that you had kinda gained

00:41:50 --> 00:41:53

from in the 30 days 30 nights prior

00:41:53 --> 00:41:54

to it.

00:41:54 --> 00:41:57

Does that make sense? Yeah. If you can't

00:41:57 --> 00:41:58

be here with us,

00:41:58 --> 00:42:00

you're traveling, you're going elsewhere,

00:42:00 --> 00:42:03

you know, you're not able to come at

00:42:03 --> 00:42:05

8, 9 in the morning for something,

00:42:05 --> 00:42:07

all is reasonable, and you're trying to find

00:42:07 --> 00:42:09

spaces to go to, let us know, and

00:42:09 --> 00:42:12

we can try to connect you to some

00:42:12 --> 00:42:15

of these other places. Does that make sense?

00:42:16 --> 00:42:16

Okay.

00:42:16 --> 00:42:18

I wanna be mindful of the time,

00:42:19 --> 00:42:22

because we had a couple of people that

00:42:22 --> 00:42:24

were gonna take their Shahada today.

00:42:24 --> 00:42:27

They were gonna formally convert to Islam.

00:42:27 --> 00:42:30

And so what we'll probably do is unless

00:42:30 --> 00:42:33

people have questions on this more, we'll start

00:42:33 --> 00:42:36

to gradually just make our way up. We're

00:42:36 --> 00:42:38

not, like, one floor above today as we

00:42:38 --> 00:42:40

normally would be, but we are gonna be

00:42:40 --> 00:42:42

on the 10th floor of the building next

00:42:42 --> 00:42:44

door. But you don't have to exit the

00:42:44 --> 00:42:47

building to reenter that building. The buildings connect,

00:42:48 --> 00:42:50

on this floor, but it's still gonna just

00:42:50 --> 00:42:51

take a little bit of time to get

00:42:51 --> 00:42:53

everybody up there. And we

00:42:54 --> 00:42:56

told, 2 people that we kinda do this

00:42:56 --> 00:42:57

around 7 o'clock.

00:42:58 --> 00:43:00

So if people are okay with us taking

00:43:00 --> 00:43:01

a pause here,

00:43:03 --> 00:43:05

unless there's any questions or anything that's coming

00:43:05 --> 00:43:06

up for people.

00:43:06 --> 00:43:08

Right? The whole idea is one to introduce

00:43:09 --> 00:43:11

that, like, there are holidays in Islam,

00:43:12 --> 00:43:14

that everybody celebrates these 2 holidays.

00:43:15 --> 00:43:17

There's other holidays that come up as well.

00:43:17 --> 00:43:20

In the Shia tradition of Islam, there's like

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a lot of holidays that that take place,

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but these are two main holidays that every

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Muslim

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celebrates. We'll talk about Eid al Adha, the

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other one,

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in a later kind of class

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or session.

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But

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we're halfway through Ramadan.

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And so you wanna just start anticipating now

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as best as you can, like, how you're

00:43:40 --> 00:43:42

gonna spend that day of Eid in in

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a in a way that is celebratory.

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I mean, how do you create opportunities for

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celebration also? So if you have any questions

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or any comments on any of this.

00:43:51 --> 00:43:53

Yes. No. Is there any association

00:43:54 --> 00:43:56

that we can send the 2nd filter to?

00:43:56 --> 00:43:58

Yeah. So we're gonna send out an email

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to the whole listserv

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where you can online just contribute it.

00:44:03 --> 00:44:05

Members of our community have set up

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a separate nonprofit. It's called the Zagat Fund

00:44:07 --> 00:44:08

of New York City.

00:44:09 --> 00:44:11

They sell, right now support,

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800 families in need in our community,

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and it'll be distributed to them.

00:44:17 --> 00:44:19

If you were here, like, throughout the pandemic,

00:44:20 --> 00:44:21

you know, they were kind of our partner

00:44:21 --> 00:44:22

institution.

00:44:22 --> 00:44:25

We're issuing micro cash grants to people facing

00:44:25 --> 00:44:26

food insecurity,

00:44:27 --> 00:44:27

homelessness,

00:44:28 --> 00:44:30

survivors of abuse that were now stuck at

00:44:30 --> 00:44:32

home with their abusers in the pandemic,

00:44:32 --> 00:44:34

You know, people with funeral assistant needs.

00:44:35 --> 00:44:36

So,

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within that, there's kind of an open application,

00:44:40 --> 00:44:42

for people to apply for charitable assistance.

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This is a big part of, like, just

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Islamic tradition.

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You know, that

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you have awareness and consciousness of how the

00:44:52 --> 00:44:53

community

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kind of at large is experiencing certain things.

00:44:56 --> 00:44:57

Do you know what I mean?

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And this is how like a Meccan society

00:45:00 --> 00:45:02

drew its sense of strength from. Right? The

00:45:02 --> 00:45:03

idea that

00:45:03 --> 00:45:05

the kinda strength

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of a kinda tribalistic

00:45:07 --> 00:45:09

society, a clan based society

00:45:10 --> 00:45:12

was a clan's power was rooted

00:45:12 --> 00:45:15

in ensuring that the most underserved and underprivileged

00:45:16 --> 00:45:16

members

00:45:17 --> 00:45:18

of their clan had their needs taken care

00:45:18 --> 00:45:21

of. You know? And some of that principally

00:45:22 --> 00:45:23

carries over to Islam.

00:45:24 --> 00:45:28

In a like pre Islamic mindset, you're still

00:45:28 --> 00:45:29

bringing in what's virtuous.

00:45:29 --> 00:45:32

Right? The healthiness of a Muslim community

00:45:33 --> 00:45:35

is that it's also taking care of those

00:45:35 --> 00:45:36

that are underserved and underprivileged

00:45:37 --> 00:45:40

within that community space. Right? And that's one

00:45:40 --> 00:45:41

of the reasons why we fast,

00:45:42 --> 00:45:44

for some of us is so that you

00:45:44 --> 00:45:47

can understand that there's people who are involuntarily

00:45:47 --> 00:45:50

hungry all the time. But a benefit for

00:45:50 --> 00:45:52

our hunger, which is voluntary,

00:45:52 --> 00:45:54

is that we can recognize some of the

00:45:54 --> 00:45:57

difficulties that people go through and then purposely

00:45:57 --> 00:45:59

built in, right? God creates a ritual

00:46:00 --> 00:46:01

that says

00:46:01 --> 00:46:02

at a minimum,

00:46:02 --> 00:46:05

you're gonna give this thing so that other

00:46:05 --> 00:46:08

people can also celebrate the holiday

00:46:08 --> 00:46:10

in ways that everyone should be entitled to

00:46:10 --> 00:46:12

celebrate the holiday. Does that make sense?

00:46:13 --> 00:46:15

So we'll send out those things via email,

00:46:15 --> 00:46:17

like, in the last week of Ramadan.

00:46:18 --> 00:46:19

And all you gotta do is, like, click

00:46:19 --> 00:46:20

a button,

00:46:21 --> 00:46:23

and it'll go, and then it'll get distributed,

00:46:24 --> 00:46:25

in cash,

00:46:25 --> 00:46:27

in checks to,

00:46:27 --> 00:46:29

some of these people who are in need.

00:46:29 --> 00:46:31

Right? Just, like, think about that. You know,

00:46:31 --> 00:46:34

as you're praying with people, breaking fast with

00:46:34 --> 00:46:34

people,

00:46:35 --> 00:46:38

understanding there's a plethora of experiences that exist,

00:46:39 --> 00:46:40

that these are just 8800

00:46:41 --> 00:46:43

families doesn't mean 800 people,

00:46:43 --> 00:46:45

but people that have children, people who are

00:46:45 --> 00:46:45

widows,

00:46:46 --> 00:46:47

people who are undocumented,

00:46:48 --> 00:46:49

people who are refugees,

00:46:49 --> 00:46:52

people who lost their jobs at some point

00:46:52 --> 00:46:54

and just were never able to find work

00:46:54 --> 00:46:56

again. They're all still living in New York

00:46:56 --> 00:46:56

City,

00:46:58 --> 00:46:58

where

00:46:59 --> 00:47:01

they have to pay, like, New York rents

00:47:01 --> 00:47:03

and buy, like, New York food and all

00:47:03 --> 00:47:04

this kind of stuff.

00:47:04 --> 00:47:05

So

00:47:05 --> 00:47:07

with a lot of love, you want to,

00:47:07 --> 00:47:07

like, give

00:47:08 --> 00:47:10

with an understanding that it'll go a long

00:47:10 --> 00:47:12

way in helping somebody

00:47:12 --> 00:47:14

who on the other end of it has

00:47:14 --> 00:47:16

to deal with the fact that, like, how

00:47:16 --> 00:47:17

will I help my kid

00:47:18 --> 00:47:20

to celebrate their holiday when we don't have

00:47:20 --> 00:47:23

anything? Right? Like, you're literally facilitating

00:47:24 --> 00:47:26

for that family to be able to celebrate

00:47:26 --> 00:47:28

in a meaningful way. Does that does that

00:47:28 --> 00:47:29

make sense? Yeah.

00:47:30 --> 00:47:32

Any other thoughts or questions before we break?

00:47:33 --> 00:47:35

Yeah. Does anybody here know how to get

00:47:35 --> 00:47:37

to the 10th floor of the building next

00:47:37 --> 00:47:38

door?

00:47:39 --> 00:47:41

Great. Can you raise your hands really high?

00:47:42 --> 00:47:45

Okay. So if those of you with your

00:47:45 --> 00:47:47

hand raised, just look for them if you

00:47:47 --> 00:47:49

don't know how to go. And if those

00:47:49 --> 00:47:50

of you who know how to go, just

00:47:50 --> 00:47:53

linger in the hallway, and then they'll guide

00:47:53 --> 00:47:55

you to the 10th floor. So you're gonna

00:47:55 --> 00:47:57

grab your stuff and your shoes, and we'll

00:47:57 --> 00:47:58

make our way over there,

00:47:59 --> 00:48:01

and then kind of reconvene on the 10th

00:48:01 --> 00:48:02

floor of the building.

00:48:06 --> 00:48:07

I know. Go ahead. Listen up.

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