Khalid Latif – First Steps Essentials of Islam #09

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The speakers discuss the importance of Islam's focus on culture and not just on celebrating holidays. They emphasize the need for regular events to stimulate cultural engagement and rebuilding relationships with the world. The speakers also emphasize the importance of acceptance of Islam's teachings and finding ways to celebrate the day of eating the day of their busy day. They stress the importance of socializing during busy times and finding ways to celebrate the holiday in a unique way. They also discuss the importance of providing charitable donations and a partnership between the Shia tradition and Islamic culture.

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			If you wanna move up a bit,
		
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			we usually have a little smaller of a
		
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			group for this
		
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			program.
		
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			It's a little more intimate.
		
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			You wanna take a minute
		
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			and just introduce yourselves to the people sitting
		
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			around you. I know everyone doesn't know everyone
		
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			else.
		
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			We just kind of share names, how your
		
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			day is going, and we'll get started.
		
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			Okay. I'm about to start a holiday. I
		
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			was like,
		
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			Okay.
		
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			Okay. Should we get started?
		
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			So there are a couple of other things
		
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			related to
		
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			Ramadan
		
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			that
		
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			we wanted to just go over so people
		
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			could kinda get acclimated to them.
		
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			And then kinda move on to a few
		
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			other topics.
		
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			So
		
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			we have
		
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			in Islam just like in other religious traditions,
		
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			celebrations and holidays that take place.
		
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			And
		
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			within the Sunni tradition of Islam,
		
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			there's 2 main holidays
		
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			that take place.
		
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			There
		
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			is a holiday that's at the end of
		
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			the month of Ramadan.
		
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			It's called the Eid ul 5th,
		
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			and there's a holiday
		
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			that is around the Hajj time.
		
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			It's called Eid ul Adha.
		
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			Has anybody heard of these holidays before?
		
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			Yeah. Great.
		
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			So
		
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			the month of Ramadan,
		
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			which is the month that we're in right
		
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			now,
		
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			when it concludes
		
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			on the first day
		
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			of the next month,
		
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			it's called Shawwal,
		
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			is
		
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			the holiday of April 5th.
		
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			And you wanna be able to anticipate
		
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			the holiday,
		
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			coming.
		
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			We're gonna celebrate it here at the Islamic
		
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			Center
		
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			on Friday, April 21st. So if you remember
		
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			last week, I talked about briefly
		
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			how the start and ends of months are
		
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			determined on the Islamic calendar and that you
		
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			have
		
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			a local moon sighting or global moon sighting
		
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			for the actual, like, naked eye.
		
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			Somebody showed me the other day this really,
		
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			interesting way that they were teaching this to
		
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			their kids' public school classes,
		
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			using not like something that I think a
		
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			Muslim person came up with, but maybe they
		
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			did, and that's, you know, that much more
		
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			interesting.
		
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			But they have, like, using Oreos,
		
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			they demonstrate, like, the phases of the moon.
		
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			Right?
		
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			So utilizing, like,
		
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			the outer cookie part of the Oreo
		
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			to kind of distinguish
		
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			kind of the phases of the moon as
		
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			they're dark and then kind of cutting chunks
		
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			off of it. So the white cream makes
		
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			kind of the phase of the moon when
		
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			it's a crescent or it's at its fullest
		
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			and these kinds of things.
		
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			Which if we weren't fasting,
		
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			I'd have us all do that.
		
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			But for those of you who are not
		
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			fasting, I'm fasting.
		
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			And I love Oreos,
		
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			and I would be miserable watching you all
		
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			eat orchids as well.
		
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			So those were like the 2 traditional modes
		
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			of determining the start and end of a
		
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			month. And then a third mode of utilizing
		
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			calculations,
		
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			where
		
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			people already are aware scientifically of what the
		
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			start and end phases are,
		
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			of the moon,
		
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			in terms of kind of how it cycles
		
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			through
		
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			a crescent to a full moon and then
		
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			back down again.
		
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			So we already know that we're gonna do
		
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			here at our community
		
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			on Friday, April 21st.
		
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			We'll have prayers in the park,
		
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			right behind us,
		
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			near the arch. We do a really big
		
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			brunch that's open to everybody.
		
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			You're more than welcome
		
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			to attend here if you can. And then
		
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			we simultaneously
		
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			do
		
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			potentially
		
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			a second
		
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			celebration of Eid based off of also a
		
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			local moon sighting opinion.
		
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			That primarily,
		
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			our Shia community
		
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			adheres to the Sheikh Faz Jafar.
		
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			We have opportunity
		
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			to celebrate Eid here twice potentially, if you'd
		
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			like.
		
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			But likely, it's gonna all end up being
		
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			on the same day, which is at Friday.
		
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			There's a potential of it being Friday Saturday.
		
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			Does that make sense? Does anybody have any
		
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			questions on that? Because it tends to be
		
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			something that comes up
		
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			only around, like, holiday times
		
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			because nobody's really paying attention to things. Like
		
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			I said last week, you wanna revive, like,
		
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			as a practice.
		
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			Islam is very much so rooted
		
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			in kind of an elemental relationship with the
		
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			world around you. Right? So we're taught to,
		
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			like,
		
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			know our prayer times by a cyclical pattern
		
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			of the sun. Right? You are connected to,
		
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			water through making wudu. Right? We wash up
		
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			for prayer. And so here too, like the
		
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			moon cycles,
		
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			are things that you can only
		
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			see
		
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			the moon if you're looking at it, so
		
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			to speak. Right? So we're taught to engage
		
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			nature in that way.
		
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			If we didn't live in the middle of
		
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			Manhattan,
		
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			you know, we'd probably be able to do
		
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			this a little bit differently.
		
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			But maybe at some point as COVID restrictions
		
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			are relaxed, we can start kinda like monthly
		
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			trips upstate
		
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			that people go see if they could actually
		
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			see the moon, but something you wanna try
		
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			to do and revive as a practice, and
		
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			people do this all over the world.
		
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			So with Eid al Fitr, the first day
		
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			of Shawwal,
		
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			it's like an actual holiday.
		
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			And if you are a member for those
		
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			of you here, like, 3, 4 weeks ago
		
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			when we read the article called Islam and
		
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			the Cultural Imperative.
		
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			We were looking at how culture relates to
		
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			Islam as a religion.
		
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			And the fundamental argument in that paper, which
		
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			was written by a convert who's a scholar
		
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			of Islam, doctor Omar Farooq Abdullah.
		
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			He basically says,
		
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			you know, Islam
		
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			is like into a stream,
		
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			a river,
		
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			something flowing
		
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			as water
		
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			and the bedrock upon which it flows is
		
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			culture. And so the water takes on kind
		
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			of the hue and the color of the
		
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			bedrock that is flowing over. So to Islam
		
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			relates to the culture that it intertwines with
		
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			in a way where it doesn't necessitate
		
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			committing cultural apostasy,
		
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			but it blends with the culture. So Islam
		
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			in China looks Chinese.
		
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			Islam in Malaysia looks Malaysian.
		
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			Islam in,
		
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			you know,
		
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			Singapore, it looks Singaporean,
		
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			Gambian Islam, Senegalese Islam, Turkish, Bengali,
		
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			etcetera.
		
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			Why is this important?
		
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			Because
		
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			you're not gonna celebrate the holiday
		
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			experientially
		
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			in the same way as somebody who might
		
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			come from a different cultural background to your
		
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			own. And there's gonna be Muslim people that
		
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			you meet who they're gonna say, oh, the
		
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			night before Eid, like people all get together
		
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			and they put henna on their hands
		
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			and they do in South Asian culture what
		
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			they'll call like a Chandra which means just
		
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			like moon night. You know, they're looking for
		
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			the moon, but it's not that that is
		
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			not a permissible thing to do. It's not
		
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			like an absolute thing to do. Do you
		
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			know what I mean?
		
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			So if you went to people
		
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			who are Muslim in China, they're probably not
		
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			doing that.
		
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			Right? And it's more of a manifestation of
		
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			how culturally people relate to something, but you
		
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			want to be ready for that. So you're
		
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			not in a place where there's absolutes that
		
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			are presented to you and then it gets
		
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			confusing.
		
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			You know, you don't have to wear a
		
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			cultural attire that's not your own on the
		
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			day of Eid, right? You're gonna celebrate it
		
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			as your own kind of celebration.
		
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			You also don't want to make your experience
		
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			absolute,
		
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			right? For those who it's your first time
		
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			here, this is a class that we do
		
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			that is for people who are trying to
		
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			rebuild a foundational relationship with their faith to
		
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			be in a place where they're new to
		
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			Islam or exploring Islam. So you kind of
		
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			understand
		
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			the basics of ritual, theology, spirituality
		
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			and just what it's like to live as
		
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			a Muslim.
		
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			What I love about our community
		
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			is on the day of Eid, everybody comes
		
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			out. Right? And the weather, you know, thank
		
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			God
		
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			is getting better. Right? It's a little rainy
		
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			today, but there's still benefit in that, you
		
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			know, because you imagine you were fasting and
		
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			it's like a 100 degrees outside and very
		
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			humid.
		
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			It'd be just a totally different experience.
		
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			But I want you to think about, like,
		
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			where we're seated right now and looking out
		
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			of this amazing unobstructed view that we've been
		
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			spoiled with of the park, that whole park
		
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			gets filled with, like, 3 or 4000 Muslim
		
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			people,
		
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			And
		
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			they're all kind of engaged
		
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			within
		
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			the celebration of the holiday
		
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			based off
		
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			of who they are
		
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			in their entirety.
		
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			Right? So everybody's not wearing, like, a South
		
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			Asian shawarma.
		
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			Everybody's not wearing like gulf Arab attire of
		
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			long thobes.
		
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			Right? Everyone's not dressed in abayas
		
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			and these kinds of things
		
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			or, you know,
		
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			any kind of locale that you would think
		
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			about. But you have people that are coming
		
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			and in full force
		
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			celebrating their identity.
		
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			Right? You see like amazing
		
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			kinda
		
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			colors from people in our community who are
		
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			coming from a West African background.
		
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			You see distinct modes of dress from people
		
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			who are coming from Malaysia, Indonesia.
		
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			You see just a lot of diversity because
		
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			we have people in our community
		
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			who are like Italian, who are Scottish, who
		
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			are German. People who just see themselves only
		
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			as American,
		
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			and it's all blended altogether.
		
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			There's not a lot of gatherings that are
		
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			like that that exist in the world. You
		
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			know what I mean? And if you want
		
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			to see how deep Islam can be,
		
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			bigger than just your own experience with it,
		
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			which doesn't mean that your experience is invalid,
		
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			but it's not absolute.
		
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			Do you get what I'm saying? Does that
		
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			make sense?
		
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			What we're gonna do, so you also ready
		
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			yourself for it, if you're gonna celebrate here,
		
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			is the way that we line up for
		
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			our Eid prayer
		
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			is, you know, I'll stand
		
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			at the base of the arch. We have
		
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			a sound system that goes back.
		
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			And instead of having
		
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			the men pray in the front and the
		
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			women pray in the back, we have a
		
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			separation that goes in the middle and the
		
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			men are praying on one side and the
		
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			women are praying on the other side. It's
		
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			also a completely legitimate way to pray your
		
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			prayers.
		
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			People will say, well, why don't we pray
		
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			like that here? Well, it's more of like
		
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			a confine of space than anything
		
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			but when we're out there and the park
		
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			is ours, right, because I'll talk about this
		
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			in a little bit, but we're praying in
		
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			the morning time.
		
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			There's nobody in the park like that early
		
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			in the morning. All the NYU kids are
		
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			asleep
		
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			because they're not waking up for class early.
		
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			You know, none of the guys who sell
		
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			weed are up at 8 o'clock in the
		
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			morning selling weed. The people who are playing
		
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			instruments,
		
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			they're not,
		
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			you know, like, out there so early. So
		
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			it's just like in a place of stillness.
		
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			And you want to just come to see
		
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			just how beautifully deep Islam actually is.
		
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			I can't tell you that's what it's like
		
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			in every community,
		
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			but it doesn't have to be like that
		
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			in every community,
		
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			right? People can have
		
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			their own cultural engagements.
		
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			And many Muslim spaces
		
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			tend to be deeply rooted
		
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			also sociologically
		
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			in shared race, shared culture, shared class. I'm
		
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			not saying it's a good or a bad
		
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			thing. It's just a phenomenon
		
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			as to how we relate.
		
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			So if you go to your local mosque
		
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			in New York, where there's 200 mosques in
		
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			New York City,
		
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			you will likely find
		
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			a majority
		
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			of one cultural background.
		
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			Right?
		
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			And I don't want you to think about
		
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			that as a good thing or a bad
		
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			thing. It's just a thing. You know? But
		
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			if you come here, you're gonna find people
		
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			from all different backgrounds that are going to
		
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			be coming here
		
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			and they are going to be in a
		
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			place where they're ready to celebrate.
		
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			You want to also be in a place
		
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			where you're ready to celebrate,
		
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			right? It's a holiday.
		
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			And what you're celebrating
		
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			on Eid ul Fitr
		
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			is everything that you've achieved in the month
		
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			of Ramadan.
		
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			You're in a place where you anticipate
		
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			on the first of Shawwal,
		
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			Ramadan is done. I'm looking back now at
		
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			my growth over the course of this month.
		
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			It's not in comparison to anybody else. It's
		
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			not a religion
		
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			that utilizes
		
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			delusional senses of self
		
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			in terms of introspection,
		
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			superiority
		
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			complexes
		
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			that give false senses of grandeur
		
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			or inferiority
		
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			that give delusional senses of insignificance.
		
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			You're not in a race against the person
		
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			next to you, but it's more about me
		
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			becoming attuned to myself. Interiority
		
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			is the mode of introspection
		
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			and my growth even if it's gradual is
		
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			still growth nonetheless.
		
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			Right? And so on the day of Eid,
		
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			at the end of Ramadan,
		
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			that's like a mode of celebration,
		
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			right? You're in this place where you're like
		
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			recognizing through the awareness that you have. What's
		
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			gonna be really weird for a lot of
		
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			you who are fasting this month
		
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			is that
		
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			on the morning
		
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			of Eid,
		
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			like, you're gonna eat something
		
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			and you're gonna have gone from so many
		
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			days
		
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			of not eating
		
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			or even if you had an exemption of
		
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			fasting
		
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			it's still like there in the back of
		
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			your head, right? Should I be putting this
		
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			in my mouth or not?
		
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			The whole idea
		
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			with it being a holiday
		
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			is also to not in like a day,
		
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			let go of everything you gained in 30
		
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			days
		
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			by overindulging
		
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			in different ways
		
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			and now
		
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			relenting fully
		
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			to kind of a lack of self restraint.
		
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			Does that make sense? Right? Where we're just
		
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			kinda
		
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			going into a place where our celestial growth
		
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			is now limited.
		
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			It doesn't mean you shouldn't eat but you
		
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			wanna have mindful eating. You know, mindful sharing
		
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			of sweets and gifts and all these things
		
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			that are still rooted in an element of
		
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			gratitude.
		
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			Right? So every bite you're taking of something
		
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			to still have awareness and consciousness of it.
		
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			You know, how did this come to me?
		
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			Where did it come from? And one of
		
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			the things that you'll find
		
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			that in Islam,
		
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			a lot of the ritual and practice
		
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			is also deeply attached to elements of social
		
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			cohesion and social equity. It's not like a
		
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			private religion, the way people think about religion
		
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			in a personal sense, but it's a religion
		
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			that also teaches you to be connected to
		
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			those that come from different backgrounds than you.
		
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			So on the day of the evil 5th,
		
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			one of the things that you do prior
		
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			to the holiday is you give a particular
		
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			charity
		
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			that is called Zakatul
		
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			Fitr
		
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			or some people will call it
		
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			Sadaqatul
		
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			Fitr.
		
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			And essentially what this is,
		
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			it serves like 2 purposes.
		
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			Prior to the day of Eid,
		
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			each person
		
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			who has, like, wealth and means
		
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			per person in your family,
		
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			you're going to give this particular charity
		
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			and it's given to people who are in
		
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			need within your kind of local community ideally,
		
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			but can give it really to anybody who's
		
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			in need anywhere.
		
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			Right? The idea being so that they have
		
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			a means to also celebrate the holiday.
		
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			It ends up being, like, 10 to $15
		
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			per person in your family. Right? So you
		
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			do the math.
		
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			If you have,
		
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			like 5,000 people just in this community, where
		
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			there's a 1,000,000 Muslims in New York City
		
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			and let's say of the million, right,
		
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			half a1000000 of them
		
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			are giving
		
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			this $10,
		
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			$15
		
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			per person, right? That's 5 to 7 and
		
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			a half $1,000,000
		
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			by itself.
		
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			Let alone the other aspects of charity that
		
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			we'll talk about probably next week.
		
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			But for the purposes of our conversation,
		
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			the holiday is also celebrated
		
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			by engaging people who are in need.
		
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			Right? One of the first things that you
		
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			are required to do
		
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			if you have the wealth and means to
		
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			do so
		
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			is to engage in an act that is
		
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			mindful of the fact that there's
		
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			all kinds of people who celebrate this,
		
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			inclusive of people who don't have any money.
		
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			They don't have wealth.
		
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			Right? Does that make sense?
		
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			The other reason that this charity is given
		
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			is as a means of education for any
		
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			shortcomings that somebody might have in their month
		
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			of Ramadan,
		
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			Right? So the way that, for example, we
		
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			haven't talked about prayer yet and we will,
		
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			but like the extra prayers you pray,
		
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			like outside of what's obligatory. If you remember,
		
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			we went through the different categories that acts
		
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			can be placed in. Obligatory
		
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			is far. Right? You have what's recommended.
		
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			What's the hub? You have what's neutral, muba.
		
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			You have what's disliked, makru,
		
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			and you have what's strictly prohibited or haram.
		
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			You have,
		
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			I forgot what I was talking about. What
		
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			was I talking about?
		
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			I don't know. That's the only word you've
		
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			ever heard of.
		
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			So I guess So I guess the system
		
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			that is the for for anything that you
		
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			did wrong during Oh, yeah. So when you're
		
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			praying,
		
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			right, you have obligatory prayers
		
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			and the recommended prayers,
		
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			they also
		
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			serve as a means
		
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			to feel like inadequacies
		
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			in your obligatory prayers. Right? So we're taught,
		
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			for example,
		
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			when we stand in front of God and
		
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			he assesses our prayers,
		
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			one of the things that he'll tell the
		
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			angels to do
		
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			is look to the extra prayers
		
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			to compensate for
		
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			inadequacy
		
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			in the obligatory prayers. Right? So the idea
		
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			with this charity
		
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			is twofold.
		
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			1, you want people to also celebrate the
		
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			holiday wherever they are. And 2 that
		
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			it serves as a means of recompense for
		
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			anything
		
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			that was deficient in your own like practice
		
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			of Ramadan. Does that make sense? Yeah.
		
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			What happens now on this day?
		
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			He coming.
		
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			This is Kareem Gabriel Latif
		
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			dressed with a Mega Man jacket on. Why
		
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			are you looking so shy? I'd be embarrassed.
		
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			Kareem is my son. He's not a random
		
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			child. I've
		
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			come into interaction with. Is this all I
		
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			can tell you, boo? I think
		
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			so.
		
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			Me and my computer?
		
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			Where is the adults in your life that
		
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			you just walked into this
		
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			room? Is anybody else here? Yeah.
		
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			Okay. Here, you can take this.
		
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			Got it?
		
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			I'm glad we got to spend this time
		
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			together.
		
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			What
		
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			just happened?
		
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			So.
		
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			Okay.
		
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			K. I have a 7 year old and
		
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			a 10 year old who from tonight through
		
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			next Sunday, they're on vacation. You should probably
		
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			see them running around here a lot.
		
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			So what happens on the day of their
		
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			eve is gonna vary from person to person.
		
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			My strong recommendation,
		
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			whether it's your first time,
		
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			you're still learning about Islam, you've experienced Eid,
		
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			like, for years in your life, you want
		
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			to celebrate the holiday as if it's in
		
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			a holiday. Right? And as you're prepping right
		
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			now, allowing for yourself to think.
		
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			Even if the people in your life are
		
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			not Muslim,
		
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			you have family members who are not Muslim,
		
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			you have friends who are not Muslim,
		
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			there's nothing that restricts you from giving gifts
		
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			on your holiday.
		
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			Right? You can spread love through the giving
		
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			of gifts. You are in a place where
		
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			it cements relationships and allows for people to
		
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			experience things in a different
		
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			way. When you are in a place where
		
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			sometimes you'll go to some communities, they don't
		
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			know how to celebrate, and it's like very
		
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			miserable. And so it won't be miserable for
		
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			us. But the way that the day of
		
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			Eid starts
		
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			is
		
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			after fajr time,
		
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			which is the first prayer of the day,
		
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			right, at sunrise,
		
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			like, true dawn, you know, this is when
		
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			you stop eating in Ramadan.
		
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			Right? That's kind of the mark there.
		
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			And
		
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			we have the second prayer of the day,
		
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			Dhuhr
		
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			In between these prayers,
		
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			there's going to be
		
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			the Eid prayer.
		
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			The Eid prayer is a little bit
		
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			similar, but still different from if you've ever
		
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			attended a Friday prayer service
		
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			in a Muslim space
		
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			where you have a sermon
		
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			plus a prayer,
		
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			but the sermon
		
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			precedes the prayer
		
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			on Friday?
		
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			Right? How How many of you have ever
		
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			been to a Jomamah prayer on Friday before
		
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			by a raise of hands?
		
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			Yeah. Great. Some of you haven't. Some of
		
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			you have.
		
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			So on Eid,
		
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			it's different in that
		
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			the prayer precedes the sermon.
		
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			And there's a distinct
		
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			kinda set of mechanics to the prayer for
		
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			the Eid prayer
		
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			that'll vary slightly
		
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			from community to community
		
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			based off of some nuanced opinions
		
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			on how the prayer is conducted.
		
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			But it's pretty much the same that in
		
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			each standing of the prayer,
		
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			you have an additional set of
		
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			what's called the takabir.
		
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			The person leading the prayer will say Allahu
		
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			Akbar and you'll raise your hands kinda up
		
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			at that moment.
		
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			And then the prayer will kinda continue and
		
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			ensue in the way that it is, but
		
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			it'll be explained to you wherever you go
		
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			to pray the Eid prayer.
		
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			Following that, there'll be a sermon that takes
		
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			place,
		
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			that will have 2 parts to it. And
		
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			then after that,
		
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			you're gonna have a lot of people that
		
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			just start hugging each other. Right?
		
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			And you wanna be ready for that.
		
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			The person next to you will likely turn
		
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			to you and then just give you a
		
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			hug. Even if you don't know them and
		
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			you don't wanna be caught off guard,
		
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			that's the way that people kinda celebrate,
		
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			on the day of Eid.
		
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			Right? And
		
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			Muslims
		
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			have a lot of challenges around race and
		
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			culture and class like any community,
		
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			but there's certain moments
		
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			where they just come together in a really
		
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			beautiful way. Right? Like when I'm traveling,
		
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			there's been numerous times when
		
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			I'm going from New York to a place
		
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			that doesn't warrant me taking a plane, and
		
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			I'll drive down
		
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			to, like, Washington DC
		
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			or to Boston if I'm not taking a
		
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			train and I have people with me. And
		
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			numerous times I've stopped at rest areas
		
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			to pray
		
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			and random people join me in the prayer.
		
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			Right? The way we have our 5 daily
		
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			prayers.
		
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			Has this ever happened to anybody that you're
		
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			praying someplace and someone just comes not in
		
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			a prayer space, but you're like outside praying
		
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			and someone comes and joins you in prayer.
		
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			Does that ever happen to you? It has
		
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			happened to you. How do you feel when
		
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			that happens?
		
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			Happy. Happy. Right? You're not ever like, oh,
		
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			man. I'm in prayer and some random stranger
		
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			is behind me and what's about to happen
		
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			here. But you always feel good.
		
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			And it's unique
		
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			in our religion's experience
		
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			that random strangers can meet just in that
		
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			moment
		
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			and join each other
		
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			in prayer
		
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			and feel elated at the fact that someone
		
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			that I don't know and will never likely
		
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			meet again, we interacted in this moment and
		
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			it brings joy to my heart. Right?
		
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			That's like a pretty interesting phenomenon.
		
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			Similarly,
		
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			at the end of the Eid sermon, the
		
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			chutba,
		
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			random strangers are gonna start hugging you. Right?
		
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			Like, if you are a convert in this
		
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			room and you've converted in our community
		
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			at times when there's a gathering of people
		
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			around you, people just come and start, like,
		
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			giving you hugs and stuff. They're just happy.
		
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			Right? You know? You don't you don't have
		
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			to. You could, like, say, I need my
		
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			space. You know what I mean? But fundamentally,
		
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			that's something that's gonna happen. It's like meant
		
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			to be a joyous
		
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			celebration.
		
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			You know?
		
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			What we try to do here is create
		
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			opportunities
		
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			throughout the day for different groupings of people
		
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			to interact with each other.
		
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			But you wanna be mindful, especially if you're
		
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			in this room as somebody who's born into
		
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			Islam,
		
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			that you're sharing a space right now with
		
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			people exploring Islam or people who are recent
		
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			converts to Islam
		
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			or maybe they converted a long time ago,
		
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			What experientially it also means
		
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			to be the only Muslim in your family
		
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			on a Muslim holiday?
		
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			And where and how you are purposely creating
		
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			opportunity
		
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			to ensure that no one is also celebrating
		
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			a holiday by themselves.
		
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			Right?
		
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			And this becomes
		
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			an experience for many people.
		
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			Not so much in our community
		
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			at this center,
		
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			but in many Muslim communities
		
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			that now share
		
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			culture as a common source of bond or
		
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			class as a common source of bond. They're
		
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			not necessarily thinking
		
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			that that person that I jumped up and
		
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			down for and hugged when they converted,
		
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			they also probably need to be invited somewhere
		
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			to celebrate the holiday.
		
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			Right?
		
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			Do you hear what I mean? So you
		
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			want to think for yourself,
		
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			like, how will I play a role in
		
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			ensuring
		
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			that there's opportunities for people to engage in
		
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			this?
		
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			What are things that people do?
		
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			There's not like a lot of things that
		
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			Muslims do other than eat. Right? You know,
		
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			we're not we're not like doing so much
		
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			other stuff
		
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			that, you know, you'd be like, yeah, you're
		
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			gonna go out and do this. You're gonna
		
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			go out and do that. So people spend
		
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			the day quite often
		
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			interacting with friends. They're eating with friends.
		
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			Gifts don't have to be lavish. You know
		
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			what I mean? If you come here, there's
		
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			gonna be, like, kids probably. They're praying with
		
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			us. You can buy bags of candy and
		
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			just give it to little kids. Right? You
		
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			saw my son. If you came up to
		
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			him, he has no concept of, like, stranger
		
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			danger. You know? So if you give the
		
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			guy, like, anything, he's gonna, like, be sticking
		
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			it in his mouth as he's asking me,
		
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			is it okay if I can eat this?
		
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			Right? But it's a holiday. So you want
		
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			to allow for people
		
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			to be creative in their celebration of a
		
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			holiday. Do you know what I mean? Does
		
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			that make sense? Right? And it makes a
		
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			big difference, you know?
		
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			But to think about that as you're navigating
		
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			some of it. So I'd like for you
		
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			to do is is just turn to the
		
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			person next to you.
		
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			How do you anticipate
		
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			celebrating on the day of the eve?
		
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			What does that day look like for you
		
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			as of right
		
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			now? Ideally.
		
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			Right? And you don't want to be in
		
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			a place where you're kinda you know, it's
		
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			your first time or you don't know. But
		
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			what do holidays like, what should they feel
		
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			like? What should they look like experientially?
		
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			And then we can kinda come back and
		
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			discuss. Do you understand the prompt? Okay. So
		
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			what what should it be like on the
		
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			day of Eid for you, for anybody who's
		
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			coming, and then we'll come back and speak
		
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			about it a little bit. But go ahead.
		
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			And this year is, like, having a community.
		
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			I definitely wanna be here.
		
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			Last year, I did have community with
		
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			not leaving here. I'm not going home. I'm,
		
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			like, spending the day.
		
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			I'm not going home because I literally my
		
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			friend drove me home. And I was like,
		
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			what do I do now? Oh, my friend.
		
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			I'm feeling a bit awkward with, like, there's
		
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			no people around, and then we can't
		
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			Okay. So what are some of the things
		
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			you're talking about?
		
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			How do you foresee, like, that day looking
		
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			for
		
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			you? It's a holiday.
		
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			Like, how how would you feel, like, celebrating?
		
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			What did you discuss?
		
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			Who wants to start?
		
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			We talked about Hannah. Hannah? Yeah. Yeah. Great.
		
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			What about it? Like, wearing it. Like, having
		
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			the little design and
		
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			Why is that enjoyable? A form of celebration.
		
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			Yeah.
		
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			Yeah. Great. It's a fun thing to do.
		
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			Right? What
		
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			else?
		
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			For me, it's really, like,
		
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			embracing
		
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			people that day.
		
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			You know, getting to hug, getting to celebrate.
		
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			Lots of embracing.
		
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			Amazing.
		
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			Yeah. I stand at the arch
		
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			and select a line of, like,
		
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			strange men I've never met in my life.
		
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			This is how come start. Giving me hugs.
		
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			My kids get annoyed. They're like, how many
		
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			people are you gonna do this with? I'm
		
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			like,
		
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			well, there's 4,000 people here.
		
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			Anything? I'm I'm a small guy. Right? Like,
		
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			it's not you know?
		
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			Because it's it's, you know, it's
		
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			nice, I guess. Yeah.
		
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			What else? What do you do to celebrate
		
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			the holiday?
		
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			Yeah. Eat some good food, exchange some gifts.
		
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			Yeah.
		
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			Anything else? Yeah. With that room, we have
		
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			here still, like, 2 hours on 3 hours
		
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			to go eat with the people. Uh-huh. Everybody
		
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			has an opinion where we should go, and
		
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			then nobody does. And then since about 2
		
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			hours, eventually, it goes off.
		
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			Yeah.
		
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			Any other thoughts?
		
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			Like, we visit family.
		
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			Visit family. Yeah. If you can do that,
		
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			that's the nice thing to do. It's just
		
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			like any other holiday.
		
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			You know? And you wanna treat it in
		
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			that way.
		
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			We start our prayers here
		
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			probably, like, around 8 AM or so, 9
		
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			AM,
		
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			maybe,
		
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			depending if it was on a weekend or
		
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			not.
		
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			You can do this anytime between these two
		
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			prayers. When I was growing up,
		
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			you know, they'd pray this at, like, 6:30
		
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			in the morning sometimes.
		
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			And I would feel miserable,
		
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			half asleep.
		
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			And my dad's like, we gotta run to
		
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			go do this.
		
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			Everyone's also super exhausted.
		
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			We're not doing that. Why we would start
		
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			at 8 is just because there are some
		
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			people who have to get to work. They
		
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			don't have the option of missing work that
		
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			day because of the nature of their job
		
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			industry. Right? And so it's a privilege to
		
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			have the ability to take a day off
		
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			from work without getting penalized in a way
		
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			that you can even get terminated from your
		
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			job, which is all the more reason as
		
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			to why if that's not your reality,
		
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			you should be taking the day off for
		
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			your holiday.
		
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			Right? Because there's a ton of people who
		
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			would love to do that,
		
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			but they're just not set up in roles
		
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			where that's, like, an option.
		
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			You know?
		
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			And so
		
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			any other thoughts on, like, how to celebrate
		
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			things you could do? It doesn't also have
		
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			to be in large numbers.
		
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			You know? It can be in very small
		
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			scales. You get groupings of people together.
		
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			You find different people.
		
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			We typically do some things for the converts
		
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			in our community,
		
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			where we'll have, like, a picnic in Prospect
		
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			Park or meet up for lunch or dinner.
		
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			Our broader community,
		
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			I think, will have a couple of events
		
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			that'll be, like, larger scale or smaller scale.
		
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			But you're also able to just kinda think
		
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			about proactively how to do that for yourself.
		
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			And it's hard. Right? Because the ideal is
		
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			that well, someone would have thought to include
		
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			me in something.
		
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			But to shift the paradigm to recognize, hey.
		
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			If there's not something that I've been invited
		
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			to, there's probably thousands of people literally who
		
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			haven't been invited to something.
		
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			So let me kinda start up what needs
		
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			to be done. And if any of you
		
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			have ideas that you want us to amplify,
		
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			just let me know as long as, like,
		
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			they're not crazy things. Right? We were gonna
		
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			at one point because we didn't know where
		
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			we were gonna do and what COVID protocol
		
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			was.
		
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			So one of our potential venues to fit
		
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			people was we were gonna rent out Webster
		
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			Hall on 12th Street. John Hope people know
		
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			where Webster Hall is. Right? What's Webster Hall?
		
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			He likes smiling, Victor.
		
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			It's it's a music venue. Yeah. It's like
		
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			the club. You know?
		
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			So, you know, we were gonna have Ethan
		
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			in a in a in a club in
		
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			in a square.
		
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			Like, it fit us, and it was it
		
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			was empty.
		
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			But we're gonna do it in the park,
		
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			here.
		
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			But if you were like, hey. You know,
		
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			can you advertise this, like, Eve party that's
		
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			happening late night at this club? I was
		
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			like, no. I'm sorry. We can't do that
		
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			because I'll get fired and people will be
		
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			really upset with me. But within reason. If
		
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			there's things that you have that you feel
		
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			like will create opportunity, that has whatever limitations.
		
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			You wanna get, like, 10 people together, it
		
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			could be 10 people. You have a place
		
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			that could fit a 1000 people, it's a
		
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			1000 people. But things that we could help
		
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			to amplify.
		
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			But you yourself individually
		
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			should be ready to celebrate the holiday. It's
		
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			a holiday.
		
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			And think about also within whatever capacity
		
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			that you're just spreading like joy to people
		
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			because it's a holiday.
		
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			Right? So the people who are in your
		
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			lives,
		
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			inclusive of those
		
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			who are not Muslim,
		
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			that are your family members, your relatives.
		
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			There's nothing that restricts you from being able
		
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			to extend
		
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			the celebratory
		
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			nature of the holiday
		
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			to them. Do you get what I mean?
		
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			Does that make sense?
		
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			Okay. So how the day will lay out
		
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			here, because there's a particular to it because
		
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			it's a Friday. Right? And so you're gonna
		
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			go from an Eid prayer
		
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			to now instead
		
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			of, like, there's
		
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			prayers. There's Friday prayers.
		
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			If you look at books
		
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			of Islamic law,
		
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			they'll say if you attended the Eid prayer
		
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			in Hudba,
		
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			you don't have to go to Jummah that
		
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			day. Right?
		
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			If anybody has to go to Jummah that
		
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			day, it's the person that delivers the chutba.
		
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			That's me. Right? It's not you. So I
		
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			would be required
		
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			to do both things. Right? Yay for me.
		
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			But where you're in a place where you
		
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			contextualize
		
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			that, the reason as to why
		
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			one would be,
		
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			like,
		
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			exempt from attending the Friday prayer,
		
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			if the Friday prayer is on the same
		
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			day as the eve prayer, is because
		
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			everybody came from everywhere to celebrate eve together.
		
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			Right? The way many communities were set up,
		
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			you'd have small mosques and then you'd have
		
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			a Friday mosque and then the small mosque
		
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			would be empty on Fridays during Jummah time,
		
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			the Friday prayer, because all the people would
		
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			go from the little mosque to the big
		
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			Friday mosque.
		
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			The same way the small mosques would have
		
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			everybody to come and pray in the Friday
		
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			mosque.
		
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			All the Friday mosques would get together in
		
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			an area and everybody prayed to eat together.
		
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			Meaning if somebody was coming to Washington Square
		
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			Park to pray with us,
		
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			they were coming from miles away.
		
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			And so for them to have to also
		
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			stick around
		
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			or get to it,
		
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			the idea was they already had one sermon
		
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			that day, and their distance from their locale
		
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			because everybody's coming together
		
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			doesn't then require them to have to kinda
		
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			go to a second one. Does that make
		
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			sense?
		
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			We're gonna have Eid prayers here, and then
		
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			we're gonna have Jomah prayers here. Right? I
		
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			would love for you all to join me,
		
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			so I'm not the only one in the
		
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			room.
		
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			But it's usually also like filled with people
		
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			because people want to continue to stick around
		
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			given just the vibe that's here is very
		
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			upbeat.
		
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			And you'll see a lot of people taking
		
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			pictures.
		
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			People are gonna be eating brunch together,
		
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			and they're not looking for a reason for
		
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			it to stop. They want for it to
		
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			continue.
		
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			But on the nuance of that, like, that's
		
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			where somebody might tell you, oh, I heard
		
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			if Eid is on a Friday,
		
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			then you don't have to go to the
		
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			Jummah prayer. Well, it's based in that ruling.
		
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			Does that make sense? Right?
		
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			It's a holiday also.
		
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			So the idea is that there is unique
		
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			blessing to the day.
		
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			And just like many Muslims
		
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			for however many of the last nights of
		
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			Ramadan
		
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			have been, like, praying at night and doing
		
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			these things,
		
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			Praying in the night before
		
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			Eid is also an important thing to do.
		
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			Right? Making du'a in that night is an
		
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			important thing to do, Engaging in acts of
		
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			charity and these kinds of things. And it's
		
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			very particular
		
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			to understand
		
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			in the spiritual tradition of Islam
		
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			that with immediacy
		
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			at the end of the month of Ramadan,
		
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			people now have an opportunity
		
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			to choose choices
		
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			based off of what they learned they had
		
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			capacity to do in the month
		
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			that is inclusive of prayers
		
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			and fasting and whatever else ritualistically,
		
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			but also the capacity to just have, like,
		
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			self restraint,
		
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			to be mindful in your actions
		
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			that doesn't suddenly now stop or get muted
		
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			at the end of the month. And that
		
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			first night and how you spend it
		
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			is important
		
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			because you don't want it to be something
		
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			that foregoes
		
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			what it was that you had kinda gained
		
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			from in the 30 days 30 nights prior
		
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			to it.
		
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			Does that make sense? Yeah. If you can't
		
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			be here with us,
		
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			you're traveling, you're going elsewhere,
		
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			you know, you're not able to come at
		
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			8, 9 in the morning for something,
		
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			all is reasonable, and you're trying to find
		
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			spaces to go to, let us know, and
		
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			we can try to connect you to some
		
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			of these other places. Does that make sense?
		
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			Okay.
		
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			I wanna be mindful of the time,
		
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			because we had a couple of people that
		
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			were gonna take their Shahada today.
		
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			They were gonna formally convert to Islam.
		
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			And so what we'll probably do is unless
		
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			people have questions on this more, we'll start
		
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			to gradually just make our way up. We're
		
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			not, like, one floor above today as we
		
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			normally would be, but we are gonna be
		
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			on the 10th floor of the building next
		
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			door. But you don't have to exit the
		
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			building to reenter that building. The buildings connect,
		
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			on this floor, but it's still gonna just
		
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			take a little bit of time to get
		
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			everybody up there. And we
		
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			told, 2 people that we kinda do this
		
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			around 7 o'clock.
		
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			So if people are okay with us taking
		
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			a pause here,
		
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			unless there's any questions or anything that's coming
		
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			up for people.
		
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			Right? The whole idea is one to introduce
		
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			that, like, there are holidays in Islam,
		
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			that everybody celebrates these 2 holidays.
		
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			There's other holidays that come up as well.
		
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			In the Shia tradition of Islam, there's like
		
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			a lot of holidays that that take place,
		
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			but these are two main holidays that every
		
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			Muslim
		
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			celebrates. We'll talk about Eid al Adha, the
		
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			other one,
		
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			in a later kind of class
		
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			or session.
		
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			But
		
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			we're halfway through Ramadan.
		
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			And so you wanna just start anticipating now
		
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			as best as you can, like, how you're
		
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			gonna spend that day of Eid in in
		
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			a in a way that is celebratory.
		
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			I mean, how do you create opportunities for
		
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			celebration also? So if you have any questions
		
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			or any comments on any of this.
		
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			Yes. No. Is there any association
		
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			that we can send the 2nd filter to?
		
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			Yeah. So we're gonna send out an email
		
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			to the whole listserv
		
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			where you can online just contribute it.
		
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			Members of our community have set up
		
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			a separate nonprofit. It's called the Zagat Fund
		
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			of New York City.
		
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			They sell, right now support,
		
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			800 families in need in our community,
		
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			and it'll be distributed to them.
		
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			If you were here, like, throughout the pandemic,
		
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			you know, they were kind of our partner
		
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			institution.
		
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			We're issuing micro cash grants to people facing
		
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			food insecurity,
		
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			homelessness,
		
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			survivors of abuse that were now stuck at
		
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			home with their abusers in the pandemic,
		
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			You know, people with funeral assistant needs.
		
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			So,
		
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			within that, there's kind of an open application,
		
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			for people to apply for charitable assistance.
		
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			This is a big part of, like, just
		
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			Islamic tradition.
		
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			You know, that
		
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			you have awareness and consciousness of how the
		
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			community
		
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			kind of at large is experiencing certain things.
		
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			Do you know what I mean?
		
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			And this is how like a Meccan society
		
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			drew its sense of strength from. Right? The
		
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			idea that
		
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			the kinda strength
		
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			of a kinda tribalistic
		
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			society, a clan based society
		
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			was a clan's power was rooted
		
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			in ensuring that the most underserved and underprivileged
		
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			members
		
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			of their clan had their needs taken care
		
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			of. You know? And some of that principally
		
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			carries over to Islam.
		
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			In a like pre Islamic mindset, you're still
		
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			bringing in what's virtuous.
		
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			Right? The healthiness of a Muslim community
		
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			is that it's also taking care of those
		
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			that are underserved and underprivileged
		
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			within that community space. Right? And that's one
		
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			of the reasons why we fast,
		
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			for some of us is so that you
		
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			can understand that there's people who are involuntarily
		
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			hungry all the time. But a benefit for
		
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			our hunger, which is voluntary,
		
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			is that we can recognize some of the
		
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			difficulties that people go through and then purposely
		
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			built in, right? God creates a ritual
		
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			that says
		
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			at a minimum,
		
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			you're gonna give this thing so that other
		
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			people can also celebrate the holiday
		
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			in ways that everyone should be entitled to
		
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			celebrate the holiday. Does that make sense?
		
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			So we'll send out those things via email,
		
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			like, in the last week of Ramadan.
		
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			And all you gotta do is, like, click
		
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			a button,
		
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			and it'll go, and then it'll get distributed,
		
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			in cash,
		
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			in checks to,
		
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			some of these people who are in need.
		
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			Right? Just, like, think about that. You know,
		
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			as you're praying with people, breaking fast with
		
00:46:34 --> 00:46:34
			people,
		
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			understanding there's a plethora of experiences that exist,
		
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			that these are just 8800
		
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			families doesn't mean 800 people,
		
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			but people that have children, people who are
		
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			widows,
		
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			people who are undocumented,
		
00:46:48 --> 00:46:49
			people who are refugees,
		
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			people who lost their jobs at some point
		
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			and just were never able to find work
		
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			again. They're all still living in New York
		
00:46:56 --> 00:46:56
			City,
		
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			where
		
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			they have to pay, like, New York rents
		
00:47:01 --> 00:47:03
			and buy, like, New York food and all
		
00:47:03 --> 00:47:04
			this kind of stuff.
		
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			So
		
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			with a lot of love, you want to,
		
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			like, give
		
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			with an understanding that it'll go a long
		
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			way in helping somebody
		
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			who on the other end of it has
		
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			to deal with the fact that, like, how
		
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			will I help my kid
		
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			to celebrate their holiday when we don't have
		
00:47:20 --> 00:47:23
			anything? Right? Like, you're literally facilitating
		
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			for that family to be able to celebrate
		
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			in a meaningful way. Does that does that
		
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			make sense? Yeah.
		
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			Any other thoughts or questions before we break?
		
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			Yeah. Does anybody here know how to get
		
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			to the 10th floor of the building next
		
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			door?
		
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			Great. Can you raise your hands really high?
		
00:47:42 --> 00:47:45
			Okay. So if those of you with your
		
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			hand raised, just look for them if you
		
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			don't know how to go. And if those
		
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			of you who know how to go, just
		
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			linger in the hallway, and then they'll guide
		
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			you to the 10th floor. So you're gonna
		
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			grab your stuff and your shoes, and we'll
		
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			make our way over there,
		
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			and then kind of reconvene on the 10th
		
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			floor of the building.
		
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			I know. Go ahead. Listen up.