Kamal El-Mekki – How To Give Dawah Part 1-2

			olika fellow worker
		

			alameen salatu salam ala rasulillah. Meanwhile, he was happy here.
		

			Ama but
		

			you know, I want to start by saying that I am
		

			genuinely, sincerely very, very happy and very excited to be here. And sometimes this is just a
generic way of starting the talk and starting the event. You know, I'm so happy to be with you. And
it's not really happy to be here. I just want to go home. Yeah. But I'll tell you why I'm really,
really happy to be here.
		

			One time ago, took Shahada and at some event, and when we're done, someone came up to me. And he
said, You know, when someone takes Shahada, I just want to cry. How do you keep yourself from not
crying?
		

			said like this.
		

			That's how
		

			it's not hard for me. So one thing that doesn't move me? Yeah. So some people are moved by that. I'm
not moved by that. What I'm moved by when people come, and they gather, and they make their way
somewhere because they want to learn something about the religion of Allah. So that's the first
reason why I'm genuinely happy to see all of you. That's why I'm very happy to be here. Because I
know so many of you. You want to give Dawa, you want to learn the techniques of giving Dawa. So
that's the first reason I'm very happy and very excited to be here.
		

			Just a little bit about myself just so we can get to know each other better. My name is Cameron
McKee. Originally, I'm from Sudan, right now from Virginia. But originally, I'm from Sudan, and I
just actually arrived from Sudan. Yesterday, I'm going back when the course is over, inshallah. And
you know, so these people, they're, they're
		

			the greatest people on earth if you're not familiar with them. And we're so good. We're such great
people that the Saudis and the Saudis in the audience.
		

			Pretend you didn't put your hand. Saudis are jealous of us.
		

			Yes, they're super jealous of us that they made a lot of jokes about how lazy Sudanese people are.
		

			But we're not. So they make up all kinds of jokes. And actually, I don't even want to mention these
jokes. Like the one about the for lazy so the nice guys they robbed the bank. So they came back with
the money and they're too lazy to count it. So every five minutes one of them got to count the
money. Later, another five minutes. Come on, let's count the money later. Come on. Let's count the
money. Why should we count the money? Hmm. who listened to the news? We're gonna find out how much
we got away with.
		

			See what I'm talking about. It's hard to say the word lazy. It tells you that this lazy lazy
Sydney's guy walks into a barber shop. He sits down like this. Barber says What should I do for you?
shave my beard is okay, lift your head up. So you know what, just cut my hair.
		

			They tell you. Sydney's guy was laying out in his bed in the in the yard. So his wife knocks on the
door. He doesn't want to get up because he's lazy. So he calls for Son Son opens the door for a
mother. So it says, Dad, I have exams and studying here. So he tells his daughter here we open the
door for a mother. I'm cooking. I've got stuff to do here. So we found no one else in the house
except him. He has to get up open the door. So he yells at his wife I divorce you go back to your
father's house.
		

			Now
		

			one time I'm on the plane on the way to Australia. And the guy next to me is a Saudi he introduces
himself. The minute he hears Sudan. He starts immediately cracking jokes about how ladies to the
Nisa.
		

			Like, I don't even know you. But he tells me this joke but they actually now updated this joke is a
new version of this joke. The new version is after he tells her that she says okay, okay, I'll open
up my purse and take the keys out.
		

			So she had the house keys and she's that lazy she want to but of course we're not lazy like that.
Yeah.
		

			All right. So you know what, you know how who's taking raise the faith before shefali right.
antastic excellent. You know shefali he has
		

			broke managers.
		

			I have joke managers. Yeah. So when he two brothers and two sisters will be with us inshallah. And
whenever you feel that, we need a break
		

			Stand up, we put your hand up, and I cracked a super joke, inshallah, how about that? How about we
pick the joke managers right now? Two brothers. Excellent one. Now the brother
		

			of a joke manager, there we go few sisters joke managers.
		

			Okay, very good one there. And another one over there. Excellent. And you know what, just as I told
you in advance, you're not gonna like me very much. Because I joke a lot. And I joke about multiple
marriage a lot.
		

			And I heard it's a sensitive issue here. But I have a solution for you. So it's not a sensitive
issue anymore. can talk about that later.
		

			I want to tell you a little bit about this course and how we came up with this idea and who wrote
the introduction?
		

			Fantastic, excellent. Like,
		

			the first time I did this course, which is New Jersey Few days ago, many days ago, kept saying read
the introduction. I think at the end of the course, maybe nine people read it. So already, we have
11 people who read it. That's great. I reason I insist on people reading the introduction is that
you need to understand what you're going to get in this course. And many times our courses they are
		

			or people expect our courses, they expect it to be where it spoon feeds you on what to say in every
possible scenario. Now, as a teaching philosophy, I don't think that's fair to the student. I think
it's better to equip the student with their own ability to respond to every refutation, and even
every, like any claim or question or even things they've never heard before, we're going to do that.
And you're going to see for yourself, and I present you with concepts that you may have never heard
of at the end of this course. And you'll be able to answer them by yourself because you have the
tools. So I want to start off by saying this is what we do in Shaolin this course we discussed the
		

			tools by which you're able to answer your own question, but what you're able to formulate your own
dour response. For example, when you go and buy a hammer, from Home Depot, when you buy a hammer, it
doesn't tell you how in every possible situation, you can use the hammer, it's a tool, and you
figure out when you figure out how the tool works, you figure out where you can use it. So you might
use it to drive and nail it. Right, you might use it to you know, to do something else, you might
use it to discipline your child, you become creative.
		

			You become creative with that tool. And this is what we're gonna do, we're going to go over the
tools, and then you can apply it in different situations. And I'm going to show you some times where
I learned the tools from and I apply it in something absolutely different. That has nothing to do
with it. You know, some of these tools you can use with people you can even use with animals, we can
discuss a lot of things. So how do we come up with this idea? And why am I here teaching this
course.
		

			It started many, many years ago, when I was forced to become a chaplain of some University in
Virginia. And they had a very good chaplain before me. But the deletable was very weak. In about two
or three years, they got
		

			about two shatters, maybe three shots in two, three years. There's about a Shahada a year. All
right. This was $1 table, it consisted of books and materials and a bowl of candy. And two brothers
sitting behind the table, hoping people will come and take some material. And people will just come
grab some candy and walk away with these two brothers are just talking chit chatting with each
other, probably about the importance of that one, spreading the deen and all that stuff. So two
people became Muslim in two or three years. And then first thing want to do is kind of revamp and
energize the dollar table. So I put together the first ever version of a workshop, it was about six
		

			hours long. And we taught it at the school. And this was in the middle of the semester. So from the
middle of the semester, till the end of the semester, about 17 people became Muslim. And that
included some of the instructors and counselors, the school and so on and so forth. So it was the
first indication that you can actually then teach people some ways of giving Dawa and make people
into effective the art without years of them running around the streets and talking to people and so
on and so forth. So that was the first thing. So we did that it was the first workshop and we saw
these results. And then this person called their cousin and this person called the relative and the
		

			other another state. And so this MSA then invited me for that MSA and then so on and so forth. And
then it became kind of a worldwide thing. So it's not like,
		

			I'm not giving the course because I'm the best guy or anything like that. But I believe that I've
put together the best approximation to what might be a quick and efficient way of giving Dawa. And
this course is not just out to non Muslims. We're going to talk about Delta Muslims and delta, non
Muslims, all different kinds of people. How do we refute this person, that person so on and so
forth, but the most
		

			Important thing is that we're going to, we're going to discuss some of the tools. And then you can
take the tool, and you can apply it in any situation that you find yourself in. And so tonight,
we're actually going to cover just one part of the notes we're going to cover,
		

			like, basically, techniques of answering questions. And perhaps, then I thought, we'll go over the
contents of the course together, so you understand what we're going to do. So it's broken up into
sections, if you open the table of contents, section one, we're going to talk about Tao itself. And
we're not going to do that tonight, obviously. And we're going to define what the hour is an hour,
by the way is, if you want to transliterated into English, it's kind of what you see there. Da, if
you want to put the apostrophe for the n, w, a, h, the H is important. Because if you write our as
da w A, there's a problem there. That's actually now a lie in Arabic, or an allegation and our here
		

			as a lie. So like from the day, yeah, so they allege or they lie even. So there's one dire, and
every time I see his vehicle, I feel so bad, because his car, his license plate is down our car, da
w a car, and his van is our van. And every time I see is like
		

			the line mobiel, you know, to the line mobiel.
		

			Excellent. So we talked about the the ruling on giving Dawa. And we're going to actually support the
argument that says that was an obligation upon everybody. Because there's another argument that
says, that was only an obligation upon certain people, if they do it, then you don't have to do it.
That's one opinion. But we're not going to take that opinion, we're going to see that the evidence
Sharla is much stronger on the other side, that was obligatory upon everybody, then
		

			then what is the hour that that's viable, that will remain? What makes it sustainable, what makes it
stayed continue, not just some excitement, then it dies down, and so on and so forth.
		

			Then in Section two, we talk about the Daya which is you the person giving Dawa, and part of
		

			one of the things we want to do in this course, is that you see, realistically, everyone, we have
the ability to understand people, all of us have the ability to understand people always have the
ability to to read expressions, to understand body language. But this is the issue brothers and
sisters, most of us, we don't put enough effort into that field. So what we're going to try to do
during these four days, is you just want to bring it up one notch, that you pay a little bit more
attention to people to understanding people. Because we all have the ability, all we have to do is
just bring up our level of awareness a little higher. Okay? Like, for example, if you ever watch
		

			some, let's say, let's something on TV, in another language, you understand what's going on, right?
You understand when they're fighting, you understand when they're worried, you understand when
they're scared, and you don't understand the language, but you know it, because you now because you
don't understand the language, you pay close attention to expressions, the voice inflection, and you
understand what's going on. So we also have the ability to understand each other, but most of the
time, we don't put enough effort into it. And so all I'm going to tell you is you just need to kick
it up one notch, just bring it up one notch, and you'll be able to understand people you understand
		

			why they're asking certain questions, you'll be able to understand why they behave in a certain way.
And then we'll have certain things certain certain things will bring up a red flag. For example, a
brother says something strange, or brother does something the same strange thing every other day or
does it would keep saying the same strange thing to every other person that he sees. There's
something behind that. So we just want to bring it up. Like I said, one notch for understand people
a little better, that's going to happen in Sharla by the end of this course. So part of being able
to understand others is firstly understanding yourself and that's why we talk about extroverts,
		

			introverts. We talk about something later on called the categorization of personality types. And
		

			I learned this in I took this course, in negotiating anyone here taking negotiating course.
		

			Fantastic. Excellent. Very good. So the instructor said, the closest thing I can give you to a magic
wand would be the three personality types. Now we're just gonna go over it for what it's worth. And
actually, there's not a single question in the exam, about the three personality types. But the
reason it's there is that you can use it for data and we're gonna discuss how you can use it for
doubt. You know what, everything is dour. If you're in dour mode. Everything is that way. If you're
in demo mode, you can see anything and because you're in demo mode, you see our advantage and it's
just the other day I read an article about some, some research that was done.
		

			by doctor in Australia, if I remember correctly, is about picking your nose. Yeah, is about. It's
true to research this doctor in Austria, he says that it's actually very good for you how to pick
your nose and eat it.
		

			And he says that it's the one and when it's dry, yeah, he did. He says, it's actually very good
because
		

			it's disgusting things, you also discover that as we, we move along. So he says that when you eat
this material, it has in it all kinds of bacteria that has been captured by your nostrils and so on.
And when it goes into your stomach, it builds up your immunity. He says it's a it's a shame that
children have this good habit. We teach them not to do it.
		

			Yeah, I remember one time, when we were young, my brother, we were at a bakery. And he said there
was a girl, you know, these little kids that have nerves just running all the way down like that
they have their little Hitler mustache, but it's all just, it's not. He said, this girl just grabbed
a piece of brushes went like this.
		

			Made it
		

			fantastic. So this guy's arguing that it's good. It's good for you eat it, it's dry. Eat it, why
not? Now, what does it have to do with data? Well, everything if you're in demo mode, everything has
to do with our, you know what this tells you? It tells you that sometimes facts or sometimes
falsehood can have some facts. And they can be accurate. But so what? Sure. So
		

			this mean, because it's also there is likely to be anything to support it. They're not gonna have
any arguments. Sometimes they have a logical argument. But that doesn't make it okay.
		

			For example, one time, and I know, this is one of the New Jersey students, he told me that, you
know, you teach using poop a lot. He saw brownie surprised on the internet and things like that. So
this was an atheist, very aggressive guy. And where I used to work, and he was arguing very
aggressively, that if it's natural, there's nothing wrong with it. So he's talking about women,
flaunting their sexual desires and things like that. It's there. It's natural, so why not flaunt it.
So okay. He's being aggressive. So I have to be aggressive. So okay, I told him, it's natural to
have a bowel movement. I want you to sit up on this table right here. Pull your pants down, and have
		

			a bowel movement in front of us.
		

			You're not going to do it. because not everything that's natural should be flaunted in public. He
was quite immediately.
		

			So he might come up with a fat but that doesn't make it. Okay. I'll give you something else. For
example, you know, some people who's heard the end of music here.
		

			Excellent. Okay, just three people. Basically, the end of music is a lecture online about about
music being impermissible. Right? So some people argue that it is permissible. Why? Because it's
something that's natural. And here's their argument, a little child. No one has taught this child
how to dance. When they listen to music, they naturally do what? bounce immediately. So they're
arguing This is something natural that Allah put in us. And so they bounce. So it can't be harder.
And so what about then sexual urges of teenagers? It's natural. Does that mean it's okay?
		

			Okay, go ahead and act upon that. Now. So the fact that you give me a piece of information or fact,
it doesn't make it, okay.
		

			So false, it sometimes can have an argument, we can have a fact, or they can be a study, but it
doesn't make it okay. And by the way, just to answer that, you know, why kids bounce immediately.
		

			Because the part of the brain that's in charge of motor movements, is the same part of the brain
that's in charge of
		

			audio or audio appreciation, or music or things like that. That's why there's It's natural for, for
the bouncing to occur. So anyways, the point is, then, when you're in download mode, anything that
you see, anything that you hear, you can see it that will benefit from from that. So for the next
until the end of this course, we're going to be in dour mode, we're going to kick it up a notch with
understanding people, reading people, understanding why people say certain things or do certain
things, and that's going to make a huge difference for us. And that's why, you know, in order to
understand people first you understand yourself. So we talk about extroverts, introverts, you know,
		

			any sales people in the audience, anyone sells cars here, okay? Okay, very good to people. We're
gonna call on your left shoulder, you're gonna prove some points for us here. But I'm sure in you
know, some of the people in your business very sneaky, right snakes in your business right now, car
car salesmen, they understand a lot of psychology as well. You know that if you're if you're
extroverted, how they sell you the car. They keep telling you about how people will react when they
		

			See you in the car. They say that to you because you're extroverted. So they tell you, when you park
this thing in front of your driveway, see that your neighbors in go crazy? Who's going to look a
look, see what's this, people going to want to talk to you because this car, that's how they see the
car based on your personality. If you're introverted, they tell you what the car will do for you.
		

			And I'll tell you an interesting statistic. They tell you that 96% of people who go to buy a new
car, they end up not buying the car that they want it 96% of people 96% of people who buy a brand
new car, they buy a model they didn't want, they buy a brand, they didn't want the size of engine,
they didn't want the color they didn't want what does that tell you? It tells you that the
salesperson can influence them that much, that much. And that's why they're so used to manipulating
people. We of course, with the exception of our two brothers in the audience, they're so used to
manipulating people that they don't listen to you they don't care anymore. You know, I went to a
		

			dealership one time. I told the guy now look what I asked him to show me a sedan.
		

			Japanese for under $10,000. You unbelievable. He showed me. Okay, showed me some ugly American SUV,
some kind of Jimmy or blazer, I can't stand those guys with all respect to those who have a blazer.
Yeah. So he showed me a blazer. So that's that's an SUV. And it's American. And it was for $12,000.
		

			It is exactly the opposite of everything I asked him for. You know why? He doesn't care. He's so
used to making people buy what he wants to sell. So he wasn't even listening to me. He's like, I'll
make you buy this. So sometimes you hear these horrific, horrific stories about people coming in and
then just totally being ripped off. And some stories are incredible. You wonder what's wrong with
these people? How could they do that? Someone, the other person, how could they allow someone to
manipulate them that much.
		

			So there was one story where this woman came in. And she had a very nice car, but they they gave her
like, a $500 for her car. And she bought some new cards from other car. And she drove that for five
days. And they called her back they told her there's a problem. And we need to take the car back
from you. She came back, gave back the new car, and they sold her back her old car for $5,000.
		

			Exactly what imagine that's your wife like you did what?
		

			what you do
		

			as a joke, I always do this to my wife. When we're having a discussion or something, I always do
this, then I go like that.
		

			But my wife, she doesn't mess around. She's like, come on, hit me. Come on.
		

			Okay, so
		

			talk about manners so important. You know, you know, the terms in Arabic When someone is not well
mannered. They tell you man to Allah. He doesn't have manners. Even in English. This person doesn't
have manners. You know, actually, luck in Arabic. A fillip is how you deal with people. That's what
it means. Flat is the way you treat and you deal with people. So you can't not have a flap. Everyone
has a flap. But some people have good luck. So we will have bad luck. There's no such thing as he
doesn't have man. I mean, how could someone not have any manners? Probably someone that doesn't
exist, doesn't have any manners at all. So everyone has a slap. They're either good or they're bad,
		

			or somewhere in the middle. Because manners are a fluff and Arabic is how you treat people. So you
have to treat people well. If you don't treat people, if you don't have any manners, you probably
don't have anyone around you. probably dead or something like we live in the desert, something like
that. So that's section two talking about the diet. Section three, we talk about the muddle the
person that you call in to Allah, because you need to understand that person. And here it means
Muslim or non Muslim, Muslim, or non Muslim, because people have different issues will have
different questions. Yeah, I'll tell you this. This is a very simple one. It's a true story. One
		

			time someone came up to me, pulled me aside from the crowd and listened to the wording now.
		

			He said, I just want to check
		

			is with Helen
		

			is doing this to me.
		

			What do you think? What do you think's going on there? It's quite clear, right? First of all, look
at the language I just want to check and just in case in cases is not right. Yeah. Is with hella and
usually Muslims don't say is this Hello, this is haram is saying is this holiday he wants it to be
and he's nodding. Yeah, is with hella, and then a dead giveaway when I said of course, it's like
this
		

			is probably the last night.
		

			So that's just a very simple example. But sometimes it gets a little bit more complicated. You need
to understand the person. What are they really trying to tell you? We're gonna look at a lot of
examples and sharpen that for me.
		

			No, I want the candy can
		

			shift some food around and stuff and everyone's just nice to the shifts.
		

			Deep down everybody's like
		

			okay.
		

			So before we talk about, you know, actually calling people and calling people back to a loss of
power dial, the techniques, the methods, we're up to discuss a lot of things. And I personally like
if I if I read a book, if I take a course I'd like something new, something different there. And so
there's going to be some new stuff. Some in some discussions, maybe you haven't heard like, the one
there on Section four, we're going to talk about logic versus emotion. Which do people use more?
		

			emotion right? psychologists tell you that 90% of your decisions are based on emotion. Yeah. So then
with which does allow us more in the Quran logical emotion who says logic? Put your hands up?
		

			Who says emotion? Put your hands up?
		

			Okay, who says both? Put your hand up.
		

			Excellent. Guess what? You're all wrong. Yeah, you'll find out why tomorrow. Tomorrow. When are we
doing the logic next week? Yeah, bear with me.
		

			Then we're gonna discuss tools and techniques, changing people changing behavior, why people don't
change Muslim, non Muslim, everybody why people don't change. We're gonna look at many reasons why
people don't change. Section five, we're going to talk about religions, we're going to talk about
beliefs. We're going to take care of the atheist. We're gonna take care of the Trinity. No big deal
there. We're gonna take care of the atheist because a lot of people are scared of the atheist. A lot
of people are afraid of atheists. That just scared a lot of Muslims just don't want to deal with the
atheist, as it is easy to deal with. Don't ever be scared to shut up. We're gonna examine their
		

			minds why they even became atheists when I talk about a lot of things and then destroy the atheist
shop. And then there's in section five. It says at the end there, Hamburg is on my lifestyle.
		

			What is that section about you think?
		

			Anybody? Yes, sir.
		

			Close, but not what does it mean hamburgers are my lifestyle, I guess.
		

			Now
		

			Now we're talking about homosexuality. They're
		

			what I call it hamburgers or my lifestyle.
		

			Well, one reason is that when when a lot of headquarters looked at my my outline, they said you know
if you stopped at airports and people see this, they might think you're spreading hatred against
gays and everything. So I said hamburgers are my lifestyle.
		

			Because the truth is, that's what homosexuality is. It's a desire. And a desire is never a
lifestyle. True. So I decided this is true. So I'm not making this up. I desire hamburgers. I desire
hamburgers all the time. I'm happy to be in California because you have In and Out Burger, which is
my favorite, the best. So I design hamburger all the time. You can wake me up at two in the morning.
Give me a hamburger. I'll just
		

			I'll just eat it. I love hamburgers, buy don't walk around saying it's my lifestyle. You like fried
chicken? It's not your lifestyle. It's a desire, since when a desire your entire lifestyle is not.
So we're gonna look at the truth. What is really? what's what's behind those people with the with
the loose limbs and ligaments and stuff. What's their issue? Let's talk about that.
		

			You know, my gay story goes like this. You know what, you know what gaydar is?
		

			Yeah, your your radar your ability to detect a gay person. And some people have very strong gaydar
who is a strong Gator. Put your hands up? Fantastic. Okay, just one person has strong gaydar around
here. Basically, I'm sure you the minute you just take one look, you know, he's good immediately.
Right. Excellent. My younger brother is like that. Just he just one look. He's gay. Now for me, Mike
either has like broken.
		

			I'm giving out to this guy in the streets of DC. And I work him up to the Shahada, right, so I asked
him for the Shahada. He says I can't, my lifestyle won't allow it.
		

			I said, Look, man, I don't know what you mean by that. We already agreed you agreed on everything.
You have the ingredients to become Muslim. Why walkaway non Muslim I work on him again, after the
shadow one more time since I can. My lifestyle won't allow it. I said Listen, man, I've been doing
this for many, many years. No one's ever said lifestyle to me. He keeps saying lifestyle. What is
your lifestyle? He said I'm gay.
		

			And only then when he says I'm gay. Do I suddenly realize a lot of things and here I am talking to
you about being perceptive and stuff. Suddenly I realized he's wearing a pink t shirt.
		

			Got the great gay sleeve going on, you know, the gay sleeve is the sleeve isn't here. And it's not
here either. It's like that. You know what I'm talking about that weird gay sleeve thing. I suddenly
noticed the gay sleeve I noticed the pink t shirt, I noticed loose limbs and stuff.
		

			So that way we didn't know what how to deal with that. We just kept staring at him like that.
		

			And I was tempted to I mean, even even now I'm tempted to make a joke about him taking Shahada but
praying in the front row, but I'm not going to make that joke.
		

			Okay.
		

			So, so, you know, the truth is just a desire, or a lifestyle man, right? And look at some of the
arguments they present.
		

			Because everybody wants a piece of you, brothers and sisters. That's true. Everybody wants a piece
of view. You know, one description I like to shuffle aside we've been Tamia Rahim Allah, they said
that if whenever he spoke about a topic, you felt like he spent his entire life preparing that one
topic. any topic he spoke about, you felt like it's as if that's his, like his thesis, his
dissertation was just this one topic. But tomorrow, he gives a lecture on another topic, and you
feel like he spent his whole life preparing this topic, then he gives another lecture another topic,
and you feel like his whole life is preparing this topic. Now, we can all be like that. But we
		

			should be well rounded. Because everybody wants a piece of you today. Everybody wants a piece of
you. The atheist wants a piece of you know, the the gay rights activists wants a piece of view,
everybody wants a piece of you. So you have to be able to answer this person answer that person, and
put this person in their place and put that person in their place. This the reality we live here,
this is how it is everybody wants a piece of the Muslim Muslims want a piece of the Muslim? Right?
We're even going to talk about other things refuting? And what kind of nice good arguments Can you
give? You know, when it comes to issues of muda, habe? and all kinds of other issues? How can you
		

			convince people different arguments, we're gonna do all that Sharla, let me know when it's time to
break. So that's more or less what's in the table of Section six actually, is when we discuss, you
know, follow up techniques when it comes to reverts specifically, because a lot of work needs to be
done when it comes to that. Okay. So now we're going to, we're gonna go over a certain area in the
notes. And even if we have to break for in the middle of this section, it's not a big deal. That's
just the only thing that we're going to do today.
		

			Now, but let me before that, let me just talk to you a little bit about those who have attended the
workshop in the past, and I actually have given it in California, probably, I've given in this
message. If this was in 2007. This was I gave a six hour version or workshop, it was called How to
give, or to get a shadow in 10 minutes, I was gonna say 16. So I'm gonna give a shout out in 10
minutes. This was the workshop that was talking to you about in the beginning. This is a lot more
than that it will have some of these techniques Incorporated. But this is like this is four days.
It's not just a six hour workshop. Yeah. But what about that six hour workshop? For those of you who
		

			are not familiar with it, who has attended that before?
		

			Excellent, great. Not too many people. That's good. So the shadow workshop, basically, I've been
teaching it for the last six or seven years. And there are many who have attended it, and they've
become superb, superb to art. There's actually a brother in Toronto who heard it online. And he
started with our team. And he brought by an early account any I don't know what the numbers are
today, brought 160 people to Islam.
		

			And he retained 95% of them remain upon Islam, which is very, very high. So of his 160 95% remain
upon Islam. I got an email from my brother in, in Saudi Arabia is going down to the non Muslims
there. This was like many years ago, maybe five years ago or something. And he's here online as
well. And like, at that point, 53 people had become Muslim from the foreigners working in Saudi
Arabia. I got an email from someone in the UK. And he heard there's a five hour audio version of it.
So it's five CDs. He heard the first two and a half CDs online. This is what his email he sent me
since then he paused it to go out and get dinner is on the way I saw a non Muslim. So I said
		

			something from the workshop. So he gave an expected answer that was mentioned in the workshop I gave
him another answer from the workshop Says the guy took his shot. So he writes in his email, he says,
I only listened to half the workshop and I got a Shahada. What happens when I listened to the whole
thing. I said, you get a shot in 10 minutes. That's what happens. Of course, now that title link is
not a guarantee. Right? It's just, it's just a marketing title. Interesting title. But a lot of
times people get upset and Muslims come angry at me. How dare you and
		

			I and sometimes
		

			reverts come angry that I took me a year to talk about 10 minutes. Again took you a year. Does that
take everybody here? We've done in 10 minutes. Now is to is to talk about the story of passing out
pamphlets. I gave a guy pamphlet. So this is a million family march in DC. We're passing out
pamphlets all day I'm walking this way, is walking the other way. I gave him a pamphlet. I keep
walking. I turned around. He stopped. He's reading it. What should I do?
		

			Do you think now? Go back. Why should I go back?
		

			But what what made you say go back to one.
		

			Excellent, because he's reading.
		

			Excellent. He's he's reading and he stopped all day, you give someone a pamphlet, just take it, I
keep walking. This man stopped for a day you read the science. So he stopped. There's something
there. I just walked back to him. I still haven't said a word. When I got there. He said, Okay, what
do I do now? So for what to become Muslim. So you know that it's serious, and you can't leave? And
said, Yes, I know that, what do I do? He took a shower right then and there. It wasn't even 10
minutes, it was even 10 seconds, given the comfort and wants to become Muslim. And that good, by the
way,
		

			has nothing to do with me. And he could have been anyone else in this audience. It's just that Allah
Subhana, Allah puts you at the right place at the right time. Maybe this person has been searching
for months, maybe he's been reading, maybe he read half the Quran already. Maybe this was just the
last straw that has been thinking about Islam. And suddenly a Muslim gives him a pamphlet he took it
took it as a sign maybe, you know, so it's possible. And
		

			it'd be a lot of people who have taken the course and they've become excellent dads, and they've had
great results, and so on and so forth. Once I'm a 15 year old, took the workshop, this was, like I
said, the six hour version. And next day, his best friend became Muslim. And he even writes, he says
that he's better than a lot of Muslims now, you know? So it's possible. So what I'm trying to tell
you is that the short version works so well for so many people, and there's so many success stories,
but 100 what happens with the full version?
		

			Shall affair happens, I'm not gonna say, give you minutes or anything like that. Okay, so we're on
page 62 of the notes.
		

			When discuss that, that's all we're going to do tonight, nine, if we can get to the nine or six,
section six techniques of answering questions. Okay, why this section specifically? I'll tell you.
		

			First of all,
		

			that a lot of Muslims think their job, as a Daya is just to answer questions. You talk a little bit
about Islam, any questions, then the guy starts to ask you all kinds of ridiculous questions, and
you just answer and you just answer. And of course, you have to acknowledge all questions as
intelligent questions, and then respond. And so you sometimes what happens is, you might be in a bad
place here. So for example, the first question, why does God need us to worship Him?
		

			See that question. And it's a common question. Why does God need us to worship Him? Don't start
answering this question. Because if you start answering it, no matter how your answer, you're wrong.
Sure. No matter how you answer, because Allah says in the Quran, Allah, mahalo genuine, you're
wrong. Because Allah is so great and so magnificent that he's deserving of being worshipped. You're
wrong. Why?
		

			What's wrong with the question?
		

			is look at that question. Why does God need us to worship Him? And the truth is, Allah does not need
us to worship Him. If you don't fix the question first, no matter how you answer it, you telling
them this is what Allah needs this to work. So first thing you have to do is fix the question number
two, Can God create a four sided triangle?
		

			And here people get excited? Yes, yes, of course he can. Yes, he can. And what's, what's funny,
there's no such thing as a four sided triangle unless you're an idiot. That's a square a rectangle.
		

			triangle has three sides. So don't accept this premise. It's wrong. I'm just gonna say yes, of
course, you can create a four sided triangle, he can even make it 15 sides in your eye also, he can
create it
		

			is no such thing as a 15 sided triangle. It's not a triangle anymore. Why should I accept this
premise? Number three, and atheist as this one is more tricky. What is what is it about the Quran
that makes you show so sure that there is a God? What is it about the Koran that makes you so sure,
there is a God that was asked this question recently by two atheists, and they kept repeating it. I
didn't know how to answer this question. I just found it difficult to answer. And then I realized
why I found
		

			So difficult to answer, because I didn't know where to start.
		

			Because because they're starting from the wrong platform, they're assuming there is no God. So
what's your proof there is, but I'm saying there's so much evidence in the Koran and where do I
start? Is it from the science? Or is it from the knowledge of the future? Or is it from the grammar
and the Quran? Or is it from all the perfect solutions? The problems? Or is it from just the life of
Muhammad wa sallam? It's proof that he was a genuine prophet of Allah, where do I start? But he's
assuming that he's right. And so what's your proof? Yeah, but so it says there in the notes, no
matter how well you answer a question number one, you will always be affirming that God needs us to
		

			worship Him, you need to fix the question first before you proceed. So the rule is, do not
immediately accept the person's premise. Or you may be at a disadvantage. I think everyone sees how
that applies. Now, all kinds of ridiculous questions will come at you, you know, the one about the
rock, right? Can God create a rock that is so big, that nothing, no living thing can move it? And
immediately? Your answer is? Yes. And then they say, Can God move it? And if you say, yes, you're in
trouble, because that means he cannot create a rock that is so big, that no living thing can move it
if he can move it. And if you say no, you can create a rock so big that he can't move. So you're in
		

			trouble. So the best answer to it is?
		

			I think that's coming up.
		

			We'll come back to it. Okay, so the first technique of answering questions, I call it the flip side
of the argument, okay, you give the opposite side, and it makes it clear to people, you flip it
around, and it becomes clear to people why,
		

			first of all, why the question is wrong, for example.
		

			So you get them to think of the opposite of this argument. And you you get to understand why their
question is incorrect to begin with. So a question a, why do Muslims grow their beards? And
actually, a non Muslim once asked me this question, to work at a company where there were many
Muslims, he noticed the Muslims had beards. So he asked me, I want to ask you, why is it that
Muslims always grow their beard? And my answer was, I understand why you're asking me that question.
Meaning, considering the environment in which we live, said, but I actually don't grow it, it comes
out by itself.
		

			True or false? Sound like I woke up and put some manure, go outside in the sun, check is the grind.
The grind comes up by itself. So I told him because what is natural is when a male matures, he
develops facial hair. So if you ask a child now, to draw the face of a man in the face of a woman,
the child will naturally add facial hair to the face of the man, because when a man develops, he
naturally produces facial hair. So what is natural is for your hair to grow out. But what is not
natural is to insist every morning on removing every stubble of hair and cutting yourself in the
process and putting the Cologne and sticking the tissues. All so you can say
		

			like that guy. And the Gillette commercial. Yeah. So when I when I said this, then guess what he
said? Good. I could have told him. It's the way of all the prophets of Allah and all the prophets
are beautiful. But you know what? When I said that to him, you know what he said? He said, You know
what? I never thought of that. I shouldn't ask you why you grow your beard. You should ask me why.
		

			So what happens here? We're using this technique, you flip the question around, and suddenly the
understand what's so clear about it? You know, why are Muslim women covered? That's the second one.
And this is a true story. There was a
		

			chef and giving a lecture. It was a room where men on the right woman on the left, and then
		

			non Muslim woman came in very angry, yelling out loud in the middle of this event. She's pointing at
the Muslim woman. Why are they covered? And you know what they mean, right? Muslim women are
covered. They're oppressed. Yeah, everyone else is covered. It's okay. The nun has covered this
because she's, you know, keeping herself pure and, but the Muslim woman is covered because she is
she's oppressed. So she came in angrily yelling, why are they covered like that? So the speaker said
to her, now he's getting hurt. He's gonna flip it. Yeah. Flip the flip side. He said, Well, I see
that you're covered also new clothes, but you were born naked while you cover. So she said, modesty.
		

			modesty, more modesty.
		

			Makes sense.
		

			discovering his modesty. That means the more you cover, the more modest you are. You know that you
can flip it around more but I don't recommend you ever use this. Yeah, but the argument is that if
if you're
		

			covered, that means you're you're oppressed. That means the more uncovered you are, the more
liberated you are. So you could essentially you could tell a woman, well, I see that you are not
fully liberated at them. Well, why don't you liberate yourself some more?
		

			I can use that. Yeah. But that would that would be the same thing. Well, you're not fully liberated,
either. know, when you totally liberated then come talk to me we can discuss.
		

			So the Quran is created and not the word of Allah. And this is what those of you who know the
biography Mama, imagine the fitna and all that.
		

			This was the argument of over the people who are like the Mozilla.
		

			They're saying that in See, look, when you hear their argument, it sounds like they're trying to
respect a lot. But when you flip it around, it becomes a problem. And that's how he defeated them.
In many debates, he flipped it around on them. So they said that Allah is a deem ancient that has
been there for a long time. And speech is something renewable. So it's not befitting that Allah
subhanaw taala being an adeem, he has a renewable attributes, and people speak. So how can people
speak? And Allah speaks, and there is no foreign laser chemistry? Shea, there is nothing like him.
So how can people speak and Allah speaks, so they concluded, Allah doesn't speak. So he got them at
		

			one point, he flipped it on them. You're saying that because people speak a lot can't speak. So then
he said, Do you have knowledge? The man was quite immediately. Because if you have knowledge, and
the law has knowledge, and nothing is like a law, that means either you don't know if you have
knowledge, Allah doesn't have knowledge. And actually one of them at some point in the debate, he
said,
		

			Yes. And he at some point, Allah didn't have knowledge. So everyone tells him
		

			he's become a disbeliever. So then the guard there was a guard, just an ignorant person standing. So
he got angry says, How could you say that to the messenger of Amira? Many because he was sent by the
halifa? Za? Could you say that to him that he is not a Muslim? So in this simple garden, he said,
He's saying that Allah had no knowledge until he created his knowledge. And how can Allah create his
own knowledge? without having any knowledge? And he said, in there in the garden, angrily looked at
the other guy, how dare you? So he flipped it around on them? Yeah.
		

			So flipping the argument, sometimes people tell you, Allah is not on his throne, even until now
Muslims, there'll be amongst us, they pray with us. They say Allah is not on his prom. Now look how
they make it sound respectful. If you say Allah is on his throne, you're physically limiting Allah.
See, this word makes the Muslim guilty. You're physically limiting Allah, if you say he's on his
throne, don't physically limit a lot. Why would you get this term from physically limiting, but they
just make you ashamed? Don't say a look on his phone, if you say that you're physically limiting
him. But what's the flip side of that? The flip side is that he's physically everywhere. And these
		

			people until now, they never answer the question, is he in the bathroom? They stay quiet. Is he in
the church is stay quiet, is he in other places that you wouldn't be caught dead in these places is
required is in the bar. They're quiet. So if you don't want to say he's on his throne, and by the
way, Allison is on his throne six times. He's on.
		

			He's on his throne. So if you if he's not on his throne, then the flip side of your argument is
worse, is everywhere. And that's why many Muslims historically, have gone astray concerning this
issue. And even wrote poetry saying, a woman called boyfriend's mirela, Ilana and the dog and the
pig is nothing but our our God. How can I Muslim say that? you possibly can you believe a Muslim
would say the dog and the pig is our God. You wouldn't believe that, right? But they did. Why?
Because it started off with this concept initially trying to respect Allah. But the flip side of it
was worse than what they were trying to avoid in the beginning. Because now the pig takes up space,
		

			The dog takes up space. And if God is in everything, then he's inside. We'll
		

			call on Kabira as far removed from that, then he's inside this space. And they said even the monk in
the monastery is our God. One of them instead of saying so panelized it's super nice.
		

			Because I'm God, gods in me. That's why a lot of these deviant this demon groups, they respect they
treat people very nicely. Why? Because of because God is in them. They believe that they believe in
you. So if I hit you, I'm hitting him. So I have to be nice to you. That's why they're nice to
people. So they got more trouble by trying to avoid something simple. The flip side was worse here.
		

			Why do why do bad things
		

			happen to good people? That's a question you get many times from Muslims from non Muslims and most
of them non Muslims. And he said five minutes for Salah Nam two minutes for Salah. Why do bad things
happen to good people?
		

			Who can flip that around for us? That will stop for Salah. Why do bad things happen to good people?
		

			Okay, why do good things happen to bad people? I like that it's a good flip. There's another one.
		

			It gets people to think. And you're worried Why do bad things happen to good people? Why do good
things happen to bad people? Nothing good should happen to them. What's another
		

			you can flip it around by saying well, how much intervention do you want? And if there's a good
person, nothing bad should happen to them at all. They're about to slip. Suddenly, there's a big
feather pillow underneath them. They're falling off a ladder, there's a big pillow on a big mattress
under them. posturepedic even not just any mattress
		

			now
		

			haha. So now you look at it from another angle from patients from the will have a large origin from
the tests in this life and so on and so forth. But you just slip it around. Would you want God to
intervene in everything? So if you're a good person, nothing happens. You'd never get scratched.
Never fall nothing breaks. How much intervention Do you want in life? Okay, we'll stop here. We'll
continue and shut left to Salah
		

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