Jeffrey Lang – The Purpose of Life

Jeffrey Lang
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The conversation discusses the importance of the question of the purpose of life in the Quran, emphasizing the need for a clear understanding of suffering and suffering in one's life to achieve success in human growth and development. The title of the Quran is critical in human drama, including the natural way of approaching life and showing compassion and love for others. The importance of suffering and suffering for women in their own health and their own success is emphasized.
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My,

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I've come from the University of Kansas.

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We're playing in the final four this very

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instant.

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So I want to let you know that

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you've asked a lot of me today.

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No. I'm just joking.

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Alright. I

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very briefly, I I just wanna talk a

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little bit about,

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what the Quran has to say about the

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purpose of life.

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I think this is an extremely important subject,

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especially for Muslims living in America because

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we're

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sort of a minority, a new religion here,

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and many people are interested in what we

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believe. And I think the primary question that

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people want answered when they first consider another

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religion is how that religion views it's how

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that religion views the purpose of life, the

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purpose of human,

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of our existence here.

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And so,

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I'm gonna begin though,

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talking about the an atheist point of view.

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Because I wanna talk about what sort of

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answers

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the Quran might have for an atheist. So

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to begin this, I need to talk for

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about 5 or 10 minutes about, you know,

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what made me what I believe contributed to

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my becoming an atheist, because I grew up

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in a Christian family.

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And then I'll talk

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for about, oh, 45 minutes or so about,

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what I experienced in the Quran and how

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that sort of

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changed my perception.

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So it's very simple. But my wife always

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says I should summarize what I'm going to

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do before I talk because it's easy to

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get lost in my speeches and,

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You

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know, which my wife doesn't have a lot

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of confidence in my speaking ability.

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Okay. So,

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let me start out by,

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mentioning that

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my mother certainly played no role in my

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becoming an atheist.

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My mother was a

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wonderful woman,

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a beautiful lady.

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She had tremendous

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dignity

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and class.

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She,

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the neighbors loved her.

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She was a a registered nurse, and she

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put in many extra hours at the hospital.

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Her she worked in the

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war that dealt with dying patients.

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And when I would come and pick her

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up late from work at night,

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all the patients would not all the patients,

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but many of the patients would drag me

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over and talk to me and tell me

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what a wonderful woman my mother was.

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When she died,

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her funeral is packed and

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person after person that came up to me

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had a story to tell about my mother

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and her goodness.

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Time and time again, people described her as,

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Jeff, you know, your mother is a true

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saint.

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She was a deeply religious woman, a great

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mother, a great teacher,

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a gentle person.

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She never cursed. I never heard her cursed,

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you know, swore ever in her whole life.

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Never heard her speak to anybody rudely or

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speak about anyone rudely.

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She was a tremendous example

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of a of a truly

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religious person. And she didn't wear it on

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her sleeve. It was just slowly but surely

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you could see it just in her day

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to day interactions with people.

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My father, on the other hand,

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was a difficult man.

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My father,

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for some strange reason,

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had this tremendous

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rage inside him.

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I don't know where he got it.

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He had this terrible violence inside him.

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And every night, he would try to quell

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that violence

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with hard, hard drinking.

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And his drinking though only made him all

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the more volatile.

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Because my father could be laughing and joking

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1 minute, and he could fly into an

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angry rampage

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the next for some unexpected reason.

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You never know what would trigger it. And

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once he flew into that angry rampage,

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it would take, you know, he would just

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go wild in the house. The house would

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be in havoc.

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He would rage on and on and on,

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and it would take an awful lot of

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liquor and several hours before he would finally

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go to sleep.

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And this would happen night after night after

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night.

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And so my 4 brothers and I I

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was the 4th in line.

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My 4 brothers and I lived a frightening

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and precarious

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childhood.

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But I have to say the worst of

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it

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was watching my father regularly taunt and threaten

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and abuse my mother.

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And it would happen day in, day in,

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day in, day out, night in, night out.

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And it was a never never ending nightmare.

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You see, it's really not so bad when

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you're the target of your father's violence.

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You might think it's bad when a child

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is the target of their father's violence, but

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it's really not all that bad.

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At the moment of attack, you're really not

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thinking about anything except your own survival.

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When he's firing punches at you, or kicking

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you on the ground, or chasing you throughout

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the house,

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And when he's threatening you, I'm going to

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hurt you bad boy.

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You're not thinking about anything at that moment

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except escape.

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While all that's going on, you're not thinking

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about the aftermath or consequences of psychological

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repercussions or anything like that.

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And when it's all over, you might even

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excuse the onslaught

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because you figure maybe you somehow deserved it.

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If not for what you did this time,

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maybe for something you did in the past.

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You could always put the blame on yourself.

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But a far worse

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fear

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is the terror that overcomes you when you

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watch your father go after your mother,

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because she's the only source of warmth and

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kindness, of love and protection

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that you know.

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And if he were to take that away

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from a little boy's standpoint, then you lost

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everything.

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But far worse than the fear is the

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guilt,

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and it comes over you from several directions.

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First of all, there's the guilt that comes

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at you for upon you from the growing

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antipathy

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you have towards your father.

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Because we're taught to love and respect our

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parents,

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and we are born with this natural bonding

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attachment to them.

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But when you watch something like this happen

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night after night after night, and you this

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rage is growing inside you, you're being pulled

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in opposite directions.

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Then there's also, of course, the guilt that

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comes when you think that you might be

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the cause of this nice night's violence.

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Maybe something you said or did that you

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didn't even realize triggered it. Maybe just your

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father's dislike of you

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triggered an argument between your mom and him

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that is now raging on downstairs.

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But the worst guilt of all,

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and it is by far the very worst,

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is knowing that you did nothing to stop

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your father from hurting your mother.

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Because while he raged on against your mother

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downstairs,

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you hid in your bed and you trembled

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underneath the covers.

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Maybe you whimpered and you cried and you

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put the pillow on your head.

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And thus,

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you traded

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personal respect

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for personal safety.

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And with each such incident incident,

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you come to realize with ever greater and

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greater clarity, you come to realize your own

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weakness,

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your own impotence,

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your own incompetence,

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your own worthlessness,

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your own cowardice.

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And the hate grows and festers inside

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you,

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not only for the man that you call

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father,

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but for yourself as well.

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It is a terrible, terrible thing to make

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a young boy choose

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between his mother and himself.

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It is extremely unfair.

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I noticed that tomorrow, there's gonna be a

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a lecture about,

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tomorrow morning, a lecture about spousal abuse,

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given by doctor, Shaheen,

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Rizwan.

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I hope you all attend it. I think

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it's a very important subject.

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When I was little,

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I used to daydream about life without my

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father.

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I just wanted the violence to go away.

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I wanted not to be afraid anymore.

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I felt like I was trapped in a

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bad dream and there was no way out.

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And so I prayed to God again and

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again and again to take

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to remove

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my father from our lives.

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But he was always there,

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and very soon, I began to wonder if

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God really was.

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I could not fathom why God would subject

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my mom to such lifelong punishment.

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Could not imagine what great sin she must

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have committed or that we, her children, must

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have committed to deserve my father.

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I didn't have the maturity to sort out

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such questions, but I had enough fear and

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anger to provoke them.

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I was too young to see the wisdom

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in allowing my father to,

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I mean, my mom, to suffer the violence

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and abuse of my father. I was too

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young to understand why God would let innocent

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children tremble night after night after night in

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their beds,

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fearing that they might not see their mother

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the next morning.

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I was too young to see how the

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mercy of God could even extend to my

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father with all his terrible failings.

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All I could see in my world was

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chaos and violence and fear. And so it

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became easy for me to question the existence

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of God. And I began to do that

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at a very early age.

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I think

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I'll even say that the turmoil of the

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sixties seventies,

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that's the age when I was a teenager,

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you know, late sixties, early seventies,

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only,

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reinforced

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my skepticism.

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When John and Robert f Kennedy were assassinated

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or Martin Luther King was gunned down,

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when vice president Agnew was kicked out of

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office and Richard Nixon soon after him, when

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the race riots erupted in city streets like

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mine, and gang fights erupted in our cities,

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many of those which I was involved in,

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When I saw the bizarre and senseless carnage

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of Vietnam,

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they all confirmed the lesson that was already

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ingrained in me and that my father had

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taught me so well, that the world is

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dominated

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by random consuming,

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undiscriminating

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violence.

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And very soon, I began to ask why.

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Why would God make it that way?

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Why wouldn't he just pop us into heaven

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from the first and spare us all this

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suffering?

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Why does he let little children in Vietnam

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get napalmed and run down the street naked

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on fire

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when they had done nothing to deserve it?

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And why does he let the race riots

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go on? Why does he let the leaders

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be assassinated? Why does he just let the

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violence go on and on and on for

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people

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who had nothing to do with it. It

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wasn't of their own making.

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Why didn't he just make us angels and

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pop us into heaven if he could make

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us angels, which I was always taught he

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could?

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Why did he make us so susceptible to

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sin?

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Why didn't he make us impervious to it

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like he made the angels?

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Is this the best world he could create?

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I thought, is this the most perfect world

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he could create for our existence,

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For our beginning?

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I just couldn't figure it. And all the

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explanations I received from the priests and doctors

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and lawyer you know, from whoever, you know,

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spoke to me or taught me, They just

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didn't make sense to me.

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In any case, so I became an atheist

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when I was 16, even though I was

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going to Catholic school at the time. Declared

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myself an atheist in one class. It was

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a confrontation between me and a priest. We

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were talking about

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God and the purpose of life.

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And I expressed my views and he said,

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well, then you don't believe in God. I

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said, well, I guess I don't.

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And then through my junior junior and senior

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year of high school, I got an f

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in religion even though I continued to do

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very well in the test.

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In any case, when I was 28, to

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make a long story short, some friends of

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mine gave me a copy of the Quran.

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And one night, I was sitting in Diamond

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Heights, my apartment in Diamond Heights in San

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Francisco.

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I was working that time at the University

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of San Francisco. I was 27, 28 at

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that time. I can't remember.

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And I ran out of stuff to read,

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and I took this gift that my friends

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gave me and I began to read it.

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And I came to the first verse.

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Well, I opened the Quran, read the first

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page,

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then the second, and then very quickly,

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in the second surah, about 37 verses into

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the Quran,

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I came upon the story of mankind.

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And, I have to admit, I read through

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it very quickly. It was about 9, 10

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verses long.

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Story of the first man and woman. And

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I recognized some of the details. It was

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similar to what I had learned when I

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was a child, but I noticed that

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there was something wrong.

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Was apparent to me that whoever authored this

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Quran, of course, I wasn't a Muslim at

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the time so I didn't have any idea

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who that was, Whoever authored this Quran clearly

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did not understand the real meaning of the

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story.

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Because they had obviously gotten the details confused.

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They even on didn't even understand the whole

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purpose of

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the story. And so,

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I just read through it once and then

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I read through it again, just to try

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to see what kind of point the author

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was making. And then I read through it

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a third time and a fourth, and then

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I realized,

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this is something strange going on here. I'm

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gonna read this much more carefully. I'm gonna

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need to go through this story line by

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line, verse by verse because it's obvious that

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the author is trying to bring out another

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point.

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And I wasn't quite sure what it was,

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but definitely, he packs a lot of meaning

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into almost every word.

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And I thought the writer at least seems

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to have a

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great measure of brilliance.

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And so I'll try to sort of take

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you through what my experience was as quickly

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as I can.

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So I came to the second the 30th

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verse of the second surah, surah Al Baqarah.

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And it began like this.

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It said, behold, your Lord said to the

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angels,

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I am going to place a vistrant on

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earth. The Arabic word is khalifa. It means

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a representative or an emissary of mine.

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I am going to place a vistrant on

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earth. And they said the angel said,

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will you place there in one who will

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spread corruption and shed blood

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while we celebrate your praises and glorify your

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holiness?

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And God said, he said,

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truly, I know what you do not know.

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See, that's the verse that hooked me. That's

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the verse that caught my attention. That's the

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one that kept on making me read the

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story again and again and again.

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Because listen to the way it begins. Behold,

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your lord said to the angels, I'm going

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to place a representative of mine on earth,

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a vice president of mine, an emissary, one

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who acts on my behalf.

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I thought that that's not the way it

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goes.

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You're not supposed to be placing man on

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the earth in some positive role,

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some elective office.

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You place man as a on earth as

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a punishment for his sin.

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Clearly, I knew the author didn't quite get

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the point.

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But still, it was an amazing line. But

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then I come to the next line, and

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it says, and the angels say,

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will you place her in one who will

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spread corruption and shed blood,

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while we celebrate your praises and glorify you?

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I looked at it again. I couldn't believe

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the question.

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They said, will you place her in one

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who will spread corruption and shed blood

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While we, the angels, celebrate your praises and

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glorify you?

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I looked at that and I said, exactly.

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That would be my question.

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Why would you create this being

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supposedly for some

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positive role,

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when he's capable of doing tremendous wrongdoing?

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When he could spread corruption and shed much

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blood?

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Why would you create this violent and pernicious

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creature

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when you could create angels,

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as the angels clearly say? While we

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while we, the angels,

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celebrate your praises and glorify you.

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They're asking one of the most fundamental questions

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in the entire history of religion.

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Why create you man,

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this utterly fallible

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creature,

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this creature who could rebel against God will,

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who could do such tremendous wrongdoing, who can

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wreak havoc like no other creature on earth,

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when you can make him angels.

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And look where the question is being asked.

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It's being asked in heaven.

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It's almost like saying, look, why don't you

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just make him angels who'd be up here

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in heaven with us, you know?

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Why don't you just make him angels pop

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him into heaven? He's fine.

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Why would you put him on earth

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where he could feel distant from you, where

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he can work out his worse criminal tendencies,

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act them out, feeling somehow independent and apart

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from you, and free to do whatever he

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wants, when you could just make them angels

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and put them into heaven and make them

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perfectly submissive to your will?

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I looked at that question and said, that's

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my question.

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I'm not I'm not even a single verse

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into the story of mankind

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and there before me I see my question.

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That whole question, everything that I ever thought,

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everything that I ever experienced, everything that I

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ever knew was in that question.

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Was if the author took my life and

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wanted to pick out exactly the right question

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to humiliate me, to provoke me, to anger

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me.

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Why create man this most destructive and violent

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creature when you could make him angels?

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And then look at the answer.

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And he said, God said,

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truly I know what you do not know.

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You

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know, in modern parlance, we would say, I

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know exactly what I'm doing.

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I read that and said, what?

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You know what you do not know? You

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know exactly what you're doing? Well, please inform

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me. Tell me what you're doing because, you

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know, I'm I'm 28 years old and I

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haven't figured out it yet,

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And I have a lot of issues that

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I'm still dealing with,

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that's connected to this question.

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You can't just get off that easy. You

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can't just tell me, you know exactly what

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you're doing.

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Not after what I've been through. Not after

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you made me this way.

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And then I realized, of course, I was

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arguing with a God I didn't even believe

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in.

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And that would happen several as I read

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through the Quran. And sometimes I would just

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get into such

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so agitated

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by what I read, I'd start arguing with

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this

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voice that's

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that's that I'm reading before me, that's calling

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to me.

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So we turn to the next verse.

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It turns out that the Quran just doesn't

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dismiss the question and starts to answer it

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a little bit.

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And in the next verse, it says,

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and he taught Adam god taught Adam the

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names

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of all things.

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And then he placed them before the angels

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and said, tell me their names if you

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are right.

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So this verse is clearly referring to the

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previous one.

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But notice what it says. Now I I

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from my own background, I remember

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Adam naming things,

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but it wasn't connected to any answer to

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any philosophical question.

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But here, notice what it says. And he

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taught Adam the names of all things. And

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I realized already just from the first verse,

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you gotta read these verses very carefully because

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it's packed with a lot of symbolism and

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meaning.

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And he taught Adam the names of all

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things. So here we see Adam is not

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only just a creature who knows how to

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name things, who's acquiring the gift of language,

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but he's also a learning creature. God is

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teaching him.

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Now right here, right in this verse, and

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it'll come even clearer in the subsequent verses,

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that the very first thing that the that

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the Quran is gonna emphasize here is man's

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intellect.

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He is a learning creature. He is taught.

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And what is he taught? What is the

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what is one of the great intellectual gifts

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he's given

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in response to the angel's question? The gift

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of language.

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Because through language, mankind cannot only learn, but

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he could learn things not only through his

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own experience, but he could learn things that

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other people have experienced

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of times and places that are 100, 1000

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of years, and miles separated from him.

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And so that all our knowledge becomes cumulative.

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Every generation learning from the generation before. And

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I'm learning today from authors I read from

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other sides of the world that may have

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existed 2000 years ago.

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And so we all contribute to our collective

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learning and knowledge.

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And so what I'll see later in the

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Quran when the Quran will emphasize again and

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again and again. Like, in one verse, it

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says, read in the name of your lord

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who created created a man out of a

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tiny creature that clings.

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Read, it commands the reader. For your lord

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is most bountiful. Why is he most bountiful?

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What great gift did he give you? For

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he taught man the use of the pen,

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and through it, taught him what he otherwise

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could not know.

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And time and time and time again, the

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Quran will call upon man to use his

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intellectual faculties

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and swear by his intellectual faculties

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and to and to use them correctly

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as a

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because because they play a fundamental role in

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guiding him to truth.

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I never came upon a scripture that put

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so much emphasis on the correct use of

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our intellectual faculties, on the

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harnessing of reason

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in helping us attain to faith.

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And he taught Adam the names of all

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things. And then he placed them before the

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angels and said, tell me their names if

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you are right.

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Okay. You have this objection to you have

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this natural question about this creation of mankind.

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Here, this mankind is a this is a

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human being. This human creature is a learning

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creature.

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I think it has many intellectual gifts. Here,

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I'm I'm gonna place these things before you.

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Tell me their names if you are right

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about man.

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And what did the angels say? In the

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next verse, they say,

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glory to you.

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We have no knowledge

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except what you have taught us. In truth,

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it is you are knowing the wise.

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They say this would be this task, this

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intellectual

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test that's put before them is beyond their

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grasp.

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And notice what they emphasize, We have no

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knowledge. This would take knowledge. This would take

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an intellect

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that they don't possess.

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In truth, it is you who are knowing

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the wise. You got it. It's easy for

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you. You have you're the knowing, the wise.

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You have knowledge. You have wisdom.

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But this would take knowledge and wisdom that

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is beyond us.

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And so in the next verse we read,

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and he said, oh, Adam, tell them tell

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them their names.

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And when he had told them their names,

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notice how it just like it's nothing for

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him.

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For mankind, he has this phenomenal ability.

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And when he had told them their names,

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as if it's just a triviality for man,

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he names them.

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Oh, Adam, tell them their names. And when

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he had told them their names, god said,

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did I not tell you that I know

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what is unseen in the heavens and the

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earth? And I know what you reveal

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and conceal.

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And he's

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clearly going back to the angel's question.

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Yes. You have these natural

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concerns about the creation of mankind.

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Yes.

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You could do these evil things,

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but look at this tremendous intellect he has.

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This is something you have overlooked that you

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haven't considered,

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and that's clearly the point of these verses.

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Even though I under I felt that the

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author

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didn't quite, you know, it was as if

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I I realized that he didn't not just

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didn't misunderstand the story.

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He was taking one of the great stories

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in the history of humankind, one of the

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fundamental greatest

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stories in the history of mankind and molding

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it and using it as a vehicle for

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entirely

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original message.

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And God said, did I not tell you

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that I know what is unseen in the

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heavens and the earth?

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And I know what you reveal and what

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you conceal?

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In other words, didn't I tell you I

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know exactly what I'm doing?

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And then in the next and didn't I

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not tell you what I that I know

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what you reveal and conceal?

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Looked at that.

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What question did there I mean, what did

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they reveal and what did they conceal?

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What did their quick question reveal and conceal?

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I thought about it for a minute. Oh,

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it's obvious.

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What did their question reveal? Just go back

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and look at the question. It revealed the

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sinful and sinister

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propensities of man.

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I mean, it's obvious. Right?

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Why are you all looking at me like

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that? You're starting to scare me. You're all

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looking very serious. Am I losing you?

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Wow. Okay.

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So they revealed the sinister and evil propensities

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of man.

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But what did did their question concealed?

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And all you have to do is think

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about it for a minute.

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Human beings, yes, they could do evil.

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Yes. They could do wrong. Yes. They could

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create misery,

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but they could also do exactly the opposite.

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They could choose to do evil. They could

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choose to do tremendous good. They could choose

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to do tremendous violence. They could choose to

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show tremendous compassion.

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They could choose to be true to you

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know, to live by falsehood. They could choose

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to live by the the greatest truths.

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They could be terribly ugly. They could be

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terribly beautiful.

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And I up until that point in my

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life, I like the angels that only saw

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one half of one side of the coin.

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And for the first time, when I read

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that verse, believe it or not, it was

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an eye opener for me.

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I had always been obsessed

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with the evil

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potentials of human beings.

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When I read that verse, I realized that

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and I had a great example right in

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front of me with my own mom.

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I realized that I had been blinded by

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only one side of human nature.

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So we go on to the next verse.

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And behold, we said to the angels bow

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down to Adam and they bowed down.

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But not so Iblis.

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Iblis

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is like the father of Satan.

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Satan. Satanic

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beings,

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Forces. Creatures.

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Existences.

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He refused and was arrogant. He was of

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those who reject faith.

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An interesting statement.

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And behold, we said to the angels, bow

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down to Adam.

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And they bowed down. Bowing down could symbolize

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2 things.

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Bowing down could symbolize the superiority superiority

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or potential superiority

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of one being over another, and so they

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bow down to them.

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Bowing down could also mean that they serve

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that creature in some respect.

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Of course, the Quran says that all beings

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serve God. All created beings serve God.

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But this verse seems to be indicating, and

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the rest of the Quran will make it

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clear, that these angelic beings, these angelic,

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entities

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will serve the development of mankind.

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We'll even see later that the satanic beings

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serve the development of mankind.

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Both forces, angelic and satanic,

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will serve the development of mankind.

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Because one will present man with a choice

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to do the most altruistic things. The other

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will simultaneously

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try to influence man in the opposite direction.

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And so, human human beings will be moral

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creatures and will have to make moral decisions.

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It's in those moral decisions that they will

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grow spiritually and morally as human beings, and

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they'll take that into the next life.

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And the angelic and the satanic forces will

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be catalyst

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for those moral choices that they make. They

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will heighten the human beings' awareness of the

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rightfulness and the wrongfulness of the choice he's

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about to make.

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And the self,

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the soul, the nafs, as they say in

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Arabic, will have to make the ultimate choice

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between good and evil.

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And that choice, that test will come again

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and again and again as human beings either

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grow

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or decline.

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And those tests will come again and again

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and again

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to try to help him towards his spiritual

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evolution,

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To bring him back,

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but that choice is ultimately ours.

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But I'm getting ahead of myself.

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And so he said to the angels, bow

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down to Adam, and they bowed down. But

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not so Iblis. Iblis is Satan.

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This rebellious force. This evil prompter. The one

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who whispers into the human heart. He comes

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into being.

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And with the introduction of Satan, we have

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the introduction of evil. That evil influences on

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human beings.

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And notice why Iblis does not bow down.

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He refuses because he was arrogant.

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You know, we often hear the what's the

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root of all evil? In the west, it's

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always money, greed, etcetera.

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Here, the Quran says that seems to be

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saying that the root of all evil is

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not always material wants.

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It's not always money. It's not always greed.

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At the heart of evil is arrogance,

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putting yourself

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above all others.

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Of assigning to yourself special priority

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and neglecting the rights of others.

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Of of, of

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pride and arrogance

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and envy.

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The source of evil.

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He was of those who reject faith.

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I looked at that verse and I said,

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okay. I mean, I get why you would

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create angels.

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To sort of influence man in a positive

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direction. But why in this story now are

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you introducing Satan? What sort of role does

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would Satan play?

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And then, of course, you just think about

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it for a minute and you say, yes.

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The story is telling us that on one

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hand, we have these magnanimous urgings come from

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one direction. On the other hand, we have

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these satanic urgings coming from another direction. In

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other words, the Quran is telling us that

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man is not only a learning creature, but

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he's a moral creature.

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He has understanding of right and wrong.

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And god infuses those allows those influences to

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come to him. Man is not only an

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intelligent being but a moral being.

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And so, you know, the Quran is not

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all that difficult to understand. You just sort

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of read it, I found, and you just

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sort of follow your nose through it and

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see what it's saying.

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I'm sure as most of you in this

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audience know.

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Okay.

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So we see that man is not only

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a learning creature, but he is a a

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moral being as well. There's another verse in

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the Quran. It says, by the soul and

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that which whispers into it or which

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breathes into it.

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It's morality,

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it's immorality, and it's god consciousness.

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Both of

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these, we we are under the influence of.

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And God allows us to be under the

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influence of us. He creates us to to

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be exposed to both influences. And then the

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verse says, truly he is successful who causes

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it to grow.

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Causes his soul, his self, his real self

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to grow.

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And truly, he

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is lost who stunts it,

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who disallows, who who destroys

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his personal growth.

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So mankind is not only an intellectual being,

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but a moral being.

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And we said in the next verse, oh,

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Adam,

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dwell you and your spouse in the garden.

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And eat freely thereof what you wish. And

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eat freely thereof what you wish. But come

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not near,

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this tree.

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For then you will be among the wrongdoers.

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I looked at this verse and I was,

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you know, starting to wonder if the author

00:32:16 --> 00:32:18

was drifting back to the old story again.

00:32:18 --> 00:32:19

I was confused.

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And we said, oh, Adam, dwell you and

00:32:21 --> 00:32:23

your spouse in the garden and eat freely

00:32:23 --> 00:32:26

thereof what you wish, but come not near

00:32:26 --> 00:32:27

this tree for you will be among the

00:32:27 --> 00:32:28

wrongdoers.

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Thought it was drifting back to the old

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story. Man's sins, man's punished for our sins

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with earthly life. Maybe the author is drifting.

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He had a good idea and now he's

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drifting back to the sort of traditional story.

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Maybe he couldn't man make his mind up

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what story he wanted. Except for a couple

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things about this verse, and this happened with

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almost every verse as I read through it,

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is that,

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the whole tenor of the passage is sort

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of not the what you would expect.

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I noticed that the Quran in this story

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has a tremendous penchant for understating things.

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Because it says,

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and said to Adam, dwell you and your

00:33:03 --> 00:33:05

spouse in the garden and eat freely thereof

00:33:05 --> 00:33:07

what you wish to Adam and his spouse,

00:33:07 --> 00:33:08

but come not near this tree for you

00:33:08 --> 00:33:10

will be among the wrongdoers. I mean, there's

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no sense of god being threatened by the

00:33:12 --> 00:33:14

possibility of man eating from the tree.

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In this story, we don't see that you

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know, in this verse, we don't see that

00:33:18 --> 00:33:20

God is nervous at the prospect, that he's

00:33:20 --> 00:33:22

threatened by the prospect, that he's anxious about

00:33:22 --> 00:33:22

it.

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The tree that he picks,

00:33:25 --> 00:33:26

he picks it it seems like he's just

00:33:26 --> 00:33:27

picking out any tree.

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Nothing special about the tree. Go on there,

00:33:31 --> 00:33:32

this tree

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for you will be among the wrongdoers.

00:33:36 --> 00:33:37

Satan will later come to him and tell

00:33:37 --> 00:33:39

him it's a tree of eternal life, of

00:33:39 --> 00:33:42

a kingdom that never decays. It turns out

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to be a complete faucet in his part.

00:33:44 --> 00:33:46

Nothing special about the tree.

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Just a tree.

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God's not nervous at the prospect at all.

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You know, in the tradition that I came

00:33:53 --> 00:33:55

from, god is threatened by the prospect.

00:33:55 --> 00:33:57

He has to put a angel with a

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fiery sword sword by to protect the tree

00:33:59 --> 00:34:01

so that mankind never goes next to it

00:34:01 --> 00:34:02

again. I'm not putting it down. I'm just

00:34:02 --> 00:34:03

pointing out the difference of the story. They're

00:34:03 --> 00:34:05

both beautifully told.

00:34:06 --> 00:34:07

But he said, you know, he has to

00:34:07 --> 00:34:09

guard the tree. Why? Because if they eat

00:34:09 --> 00:34:10

from it,

00:34:10 --> 00:34:11

they'll become

00:34:11 --> 00:34:12

gods like us.

00:34:15 --> 00:34:17

This man, he saw already has a rebellious

00:34:17 --> 00:34:19

nature. Can you imagine if he eats from

00:34:19 --> 00:34:20

the this tree?

00:34:21 --> 00:34:23

I don't know. Can't let him get near

00:34:23 --> 00:34:23

that tree.

00:34:25 --> 00:34:25

But here,

00:34:26 --> 00:34:29

just, you know, calmly says, you know, but

00:34:29 --> 00:34:30

if you do, you'll be among the wrongdoers.

00:34:31 --> 00:34:32

God is not worried about himself.

00:34:34 --> 00:34:35

Just warning man.

00:34:35 --> 00:34:37

Making it clear that if you do this,

00:34:37 --> 00:34:38

you've committed a wrongful deed.

00:34:40 --> 00:34:42

Again, the the whole tenor of the path

00:34:43 --> 00:34:44

All these verses that you read through it

00:34:44 --> 00:34:46

is, god knows exactly what he's doing.

00:34:49 --> 00:34:50

Okay. Next verse.

00:34:50 --> 00:34:52

But Satan caused them to slip

00:34:54 --> 00:34:55

and expelled them from the state in which

00:34:55 --> 00:34:57

they were. And we

00:34:57 --> 00:34:59

said, go you all down, some of you

00:34:59 --> 00:35:02

being the enemies of others, and on earth

00:35:02 --> 00:35:03

will be your dwelling place and provision for

00:35:03 --> 00:35:04

a time.

00:35:06 --> 00:35:07

What I said?

00:35:09 --> 00:35:11

I mean, you know, I was expecting now

00:35:11 --> 00:35:13

the rage, the anger, the violence,

00:35:14 --> 00:35:14

the jealousy.

00:35:17 --> 00:35:19

That's what I was expecting. Okay. They eat

00:35:19 --> 00:35:21

from the tree. Where's the rage, the violence?

00:35:22 --> 00:35:23

I'm gonna punish you now.

00:35:24 --> 00:35:25

You're gonna sweat on earth,

00:35:26 --> 00:35:28

and you're gonna suffer, and you're gonna stub

00:35:28 --> 00:35:29

your toe, and you're gonna work, and you're

00:35:29 --> 00:35:30

gonna labor,

00:35:31 --> 00:35:32

and you're gonna die there

00:35:33 --> 00:35:34

for what you did.

00:35:35 --> 00:35:37

And where's the woman?

00:35:38 --> 00:35:38

Alright.

00:35:40 --> 00:35:42

And the woman.

00:35:43 --> 00:35:45

Right? She's the one who's gonna suffer the

00:35:45 --> 00:35:45

most.

00:35:46 --> 00:35:48

Right? She'll have to suffer labor pains

00:35:49 --> 00:35:50

and monthly cycles.

00:35:50 --> 00:35:53

Right? And bleeding and crying out. And her

00:35:53 --> 00:35:55

children come into the world.

00:35:56 --> 00:35:57

She'll scream out.

00:35:58 --> 00:36:01

And worst of all, the greatest humiliation,

00:36:01 --> 00:36:04

the man will rule over her.

00:36:05 --> 00:36:08

When he's obviously her intellectual inferior, because she

00:36:08 --> 00:36:10

and the angels seduced she and she she

00:36:10 --> 00:36:12

and Satan seduced him,

00:36:12 --> 00:36:14

and he just bumbled along and did commit

00:36:14 --> 00:36:16

in a real, you know, wrong deed.

00:36:18 --> 00:36:20

Well, I don't mean to make light of

00:36:20 --> 00:36:20

it.

00:36:20 --> 00:36:21

But

00:36:21 --> 00:36:24

the story is obviously different though. You know,

00:36:24 --> 00:36:26

no no threat here.

00:36:26 --> 00:36:27

As a matter of fact, look at the

00:36:27 --> 00:36:30

way it says, O Adam, dwell you and

00:36:30 --> 00:36:31

your spouse in the garden and eat freely

00:36:31 --> 00:36:34

thereof what you wish, but come down this,

00:36:34 --> 00:36:35

near this tree for you will be among

00:36:35 --> 00:36:37

the wrongdoers. Doers. Then they make the mistake.

00:36:37 --> 00:36:38

But Satan caused them to slip

00:36:39 --> 00:36:40

and expelled them from the state in which

00:36:40 --> 00:36:41

they were.

00:36:42 --> 00:36:43

And we said, go all you down. Some

00:36:43 --> 00:36:45

of you being enemies of others will be

00:36:45 --> 00:36:45

adversaries

00:36:46 --> 00:36:47

of others. Some of you will be adversaries

00:36:47 --> 00:36:49

of each other. And on earth will be

00:36:49 --> 00:36:51

your dwelling place and provision for a time.

00:36:52 --> 00:36:54

This is not a deity losing it.

00:36:55 --> 00:36:56

If you look at it, I mean, on

00:36:56 --> 00:36:58

earth will be your dwelling place and provision

00:36:58 --> 00:36:59

for a time.

00:36:59 --> 00:37:01

That's not the words of a of a

00:37:01 --> 00:37:03

god that has got lost,

00:37:03 --> 00:37:05

you know, that is really extremely upset.

00:37:07 --> 00:37:08

On earth will be your dwelling place and

00:37:08 --> 00:37:09

provision for a time.

00:37:10 --> 00:37:12

When I walked into the hotel today

00:37:12 --> 00:37:13

and they said,

00:37:13 --> 00:37:15

and it's this nice one up there. I

00:37:15 --> 00:37:16

don't know the name. I can't remember the

00:37:16 --> 00:37:18

name of it, but that's a continental breakfast.

00:37:19 --> 00:37:21

And they said, your room will be room,

00:37:22 --> 00:37:22

111,

00:37:22 --> 00:37:25

and, there's a continent continental breakfast in the

00:37:25 --> 00:37:26

morning. I didn't say.

00:37:27 --> 00:37:29

No. I didn't think they were mad at

00:37:29 --> 00:37:30

me. You know? Because he said, you know,

00:37:30 --> 00:37:32

you're gonna sleep here, and this is gonna

00:37:32 --> 00:37:33

be your provision in the morning.

00:37:33 --> 00:37:34

Oh, thank you.

00:37:37 --> 00:37:39

But notice something else about this verse. I

00:37:39 --> 00:37:41

mean, when you read these verses for the

00:37:41 --> 00:37:43

first time, I don't know, maybe I'm nuts

00:37:43 --> 00:37:45

And many people think I am. But when

00:37:45 --> 00:37:47

you read these verses for the first time,

00:37:47 --> 00:37:49

I mean, this is just so much that

00:37:49 --> 00:37:50

catches your attention.

00:37:50 --> 00:37:52

But k Satan caused them to slip.

00:37:53 --> 00:37:55

I remember, I I couldn't get that verse

00:37:55 --> 00:37:56

out of that those words out of my

00:37:56 --> 00:37:59

head. Satan caused them to slip.

00:37:59 --> 00:38:00

To slip?

00:38:01 --> 00:38:03

The greatest sin in the history of the

00:38:03 --> 00:38:06

human race, and it's called a slip.

00:38:08 --> 00:38:10

You know, in my culture, slip means, you

00:38:10 --> 00:38:11

know, you just

00:38:11 --> 00:38:13

momentarily for a fraction of a second, you

00:38:13 --> 00:38:14

lose your focus.

00:38:15 --> 00:38:16

It's not a big deal.

00:38:16 --> 00:38:18

My uncle Bob used to always say to

00:38:18 --> 00:38:20

me, Jeff. I'm sorry. I'm 5 minutes late.

00:38:20 --> 00:38:21

I slipped up.

00:38:21 --> 00:38:24

You know, it's the understanding is it's no

00:38:24 --> 00:38:25

big deal. It's just a slip.

00:38:26 --> 00:38:27

Now that's what we say when we make

00:38:27 --> 00:38:29

a minor mistake. I slipped up. Don't worry

00:38:29 --> 00:38:31

about it. Never happened again.

00:38:31 --> 00:38:33

A slip? I said.

00:38:33 --> 00:38:35

Momentary loss of focus.

00:38:35 --> 00:38:37

The greatest sin in the history of humanity.

00:38:37 --> 00:38:39

Why we're all here? Why we're all suffering?

00:38:39 --> 00:38:41

Why we experience death? A slip?

00:38:42 --> 00:38:43

I didn't believe it. I went to my

00:38:43 --> 00:38:45

Arabian friends at that time. I didn't know

00:38:45 --> 00:38:45

any

00:38:46 --> 00:38:47

Arabic. That came to this verse. We went

00:38:47 --> 00:38:49

through it line by line. I said, now

00:38:49 --> 00:38:51

don't change any words. Just read them one

00:38:51 --> 00:38:52

at a time.

00:38:52 --> 00:38:53

But Satan,

00:38:53 --> 00:38:55

made them and I said, okay. This one.

00:38:55 --> 00:38:57

This one right here. What does it mean?

00:38:58 --> 00:39:00

Tell me what that means. They looked at

00:39:00 --> 00:39:00

it. It says,

00:39:01 --> 00:39:01

slip.

00:39:06 --> 00:39:07

Slip.

00:39:09 --> 00:39:10

And expelled them from the state in which

00:39:10 --> 00:39:11

they were.

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A slip I thought?

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But then maybe I was trying to force

00:39:17 --> 00:39:19

the traditional understanding,

00:39:19 --> 00:39:21

the traditional interpretation.

00:39:21 --> 00:39:23

Maybe it was just a slip.

00:39:23 --> 00:39:26

I mean, after all, they didn't commit murder.

00:39:26 --> 00:39:28

They didn't commit robbery,

00:39:28 --> 00:39:29

*,

00:39:29 --> 00:39:30

pillaging,

00:39:32 --> 00:39:32

assault.

00:39:34 --> 00:39:36

They they eat a they eat a couple

00:39:36 --> 00:39:37

of pieces of fruit.

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It's not the greatest sin in the history

00:39:40 --> 00:39:42

of humanity by any means.

00:39:44 --> 00:39:46

And then the next verse says, and then

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they were expelled from the state in which

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they were.

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What state were they? Let's see now. Let's

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go back from where we started. 1st, mankind

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is being taught. We see he's an intellectual

00:39:55 --> 00:39:57

being. Then we show he's a moral being.

00:39:58 --> 00:39:59

Moral being means he's a being that's gonna

00:39:59 --> 00:40:00

have to make choices.

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And then God gives him this choice. It's

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not a huge deal. It's not the gravest

00:40:05 --> 00:40:06

sin in the history of humanity by any

00:40:06 --> 00:40:08

means. It's minor by any standards.

00:40:09 --> 00:40:10

They make it though.

00:40:11 --> 00:40:13

We see that God originally intended to put

00:40:13 --> 00:40:15

man on earth as his viceren. We see

00:40:15 --> 00:40:17

a period of preparation where he's being prepared

00:40:17 --> 00:40:19

intellectually, where he's growing intellectually, where he's growing

00:40:19 --> 00:40:20

as a moral creature.

00:40:21 --> 00:40:23

When does God finally put him on earth?

00:40:23 --> 00:40:25

What signals that he's ready to begin?

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He makes his first independent choice.

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It's not the worst deed in the history

00:40:31 --> 00:40:31

of humanity.

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It's minor on anybody's scale,

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but it shows that mankind is ready

00:40:36 --> 00:40:38

to act on his own,

00:40:39 --> 00:40:41

to be his own to make his own

00:40:41 --> 00:40:41

choices,

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That god has empowered him to make choices

00:40:44 --> 00:40:46

and he's ready to make them and carry

00:40:46 --> 00:40:47

them out and see them most often to

00:40:47 --> 00:40:50

their expected ends, if god

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wills.

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And that seems to be the only real

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significance of it.

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But I thought maybe I'm getting this wrong.

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Maybe God just blows off into an angry

00:41:00 --> 00:41:02

rampage the next verse. So I look in

00:41:02 --> 00:41:03

the next one and it says,

00:41:04 --> 00:41:06

and then Adam received words from his Lord.

00:41:07 --> 00:41:09

And he turned and God turned to him

00:41:09 --> 00:41:09

mercifully,

00:41:10 --> 00:41:11

for he's oft returning

00:41:12 --> 00:41:13

ever merciful.

00:41:14 --> 00:41:16

If I had any doubts up till now

00:41:16 --> 00:41:18

that God is not enraged by what this

00:41:18 --> 00:41:19

has happened,

00:41:19 --> 00:41:22

that God hasn't prepared mankind

00:41:22 --> 00:41:24

for this choice, for what was eventually gonna

00:41:24 --> 00:41:27

happen. That all this was preparation for mankind

00:41:27 --> 00:41:30

to begin his earthly sojourn in this famous

00:41:30 --> 00:41:31

allegory.

00:41:31 --> 00:41:33

If I had any doubts before now, I

00:41:33 --> 00:41:35

had them. Certainly didn't have them after reading

00:41:35 --> 00:41:36

this verse.

00:41:37 --> 00:41:38

This verse is entirely

00:41:39 --> 00:41:39

consoling,

00:41:40 --> 00:41:42

reaching and merciful, reaching out to mankind in

00:41:42 --> 00:41:43

mercy.

00:41:44 --> 00:41:45

Mankind goes to earth.

00:41:46 --> 00:41:49

He's obviously afraid. He obviously feels remorse. He's

00:41:49 --> 00:41:51

in an unfamiliar environment. And what does God

00:41:51 --> 00:41:53

do? He turns to him. He turns to

00:41:53 --> 00:41:55

him. In Arabic, the word is like has

00:41:55 --> 00:41:57

the meaning of like a father turning towards

00:41:57 --> 00:42:00

an infant or a child or somebody or

00:42:00 --> 00:42:02

a parent, a mother turning towards their child.

00:42:03 --> 00:42:05

And he turns to him mercifully and he

00:42:05 --> 00:42:06

for God is off returning,

00:42:07 --> 00:42:09

ever merciful. And Adam receives words from his

00:42:09 --> 00:42:10

Lord.

00:42:10 --> 00:42:12

What kind of words?

00:42:12 --> 00:42:14

Probably words of consolation,

00:42:14 --> 00:42:16

words of hope, words tell him not not

00:42:16 --> 00:42:17

to be scared.

00:42:17 --> 00:42:19

And in the next verse, we see those

00:42:19 --> 00:42:21

are exactly the type of words that Adam

00:42:21 --> 00:42:21

receives.

00:42:22 --> 00:42:24

He says, go down, Adam and his spouse.

00:42:24 --> 00:42:25

Go down from the state, all of you

00:42:25 --> 00:42:26

together.

00:42:26 --> 00:42:28

Repeating that again, just so that we know

00:42:28 --> 00:42:30

that this is not a punishment here. Go

00:42:30 --> 00:42:31

down from the state all of to to

00:42:32 --> 00:42:33

you together, and truly there will come to

00:42:33 --> 00:42:36

you guidance from me. And whoever follows my

00:42:36 --> 00:42:38

guidance has nothing to fear nor shall they

00:42:38 --> 00:42:38

grieve.

00:42:40 --> 00:42:41

It is,

00:42:42 --> 00:42:43

it is an emotional picture.

00:42:44 --> 00:42:47

This young couple, young couple is here, you

00:42:47 --> 00:42:49

know, in in fear

00:42:50 --> 00:42:51

and in in shame,

00:42:52 --> 00:42:52

feeling remorse,

00:42:53 --> 00:42:55

and God reaches out to them and turns

00:42:55 --> 00:42:57

towards them and tells them, you have nothing

00:42:57 --> 00:42:59

to fear nor shall you grieve. I know

00:42:59 --> 00:43:01

this is tough for you, but you've been

00:43:01 --> 00:43:02

prepared for it

00:43:03 --> 00:43:04

up to of all up till now through

00:43:04 --> 00:43:05

your entire existence.

00:43:06 --> 00:43:08

It had to happen. This is a necessary

00:43:08 --> 00:43:09

stage in your development,

00:43:09 --> 00:43:12

in your growth, but just hang in there.

00:43:12 --> 00:43:13

Follow my guidance.

00:43:13 --> 00:43:14

Be true to me and I'll be true

00:43:14 --> 00:43:16

to you. I'll guide you. I'll help you.

00:43:16 --> 00:43:18

I'll do whatever you need. Just follow my

00:43:18 --> 00:43:20

guidance and you have nothing to fear nor

00:43:20 --> 00:43:21

shall you agree.

00:43:24 --> 00:43:25

Okay.

00:43:27 --> 00:43:28

So I was

00:43:29 --> 00:43:29

impressed.

00:43:30 --> 00:43:31

You know, I thought

00:43:33 --> 00:43:33

this

00:43:33 --> 00:43:36

author whom I didn't know, I thought was

00:43:36 --> 00:43:37

extremely

00:43:37 --> 00:43:38

brilliant.

00:43:39 --> 00:43:41

Because the story is entirely coherent,

00:43:41 --> 00:43:44

but it's bringing out entirely new meaning. And

00:43:44 --> 00:43:46

it's stressing some things in the human

00:43:47 --> 00:43:47

equation

00:43:48 --> 00:43:50

that I would never have normally thought of.

00:43:50 --> 00:43:52

Actually, I thought these sort of things argued

00:43:52 --> 00:43:54

against the existence of God. Here, the author

00:43:54 --> 00:43:56

was using them to say look at these,

00:43:56 --> 00:43:58

these play a fundamental role in the purpose

00:43:58 --> 00:43:59

of life. What?

00:44:00 --> 00:44:01

Intellect.

00:44:01 --> 00:44:02

Human beings

00:44:03 --> 00:44:04

have intellect.

00:44:06 --> 00:44:08

Right. In response to the angel question, they

00:44:08 --> 00:44:09

are moral

00:44:10 --> 00:44:10

creatures

00:44:11 --> 00:44:13

and they are subjected to evil and angelic

00:44:13 --> 00:44:14

promptings.

00:44:14 --> 00:44:16

And they have to choose between them again

00:44:16 --> 00:44:18

and again and again throughout their existence and

00:44:18 --> 00:44:20

their growth, which which the Quran talks about

00:44:20 --> 00:44:21

frequently,

00:44:21 --> 00:44:23

is gonna depend on that.

00:44:23 --> 00:44:26

We're here to grow as we will see.

00:44:26 --> 00:44:27

But it emphasizes

00:44:27 --> 00:44:28

choice.

00:44:28 --> 00:44:29

Human beings

00:44:29 --> 00:44:31

are creatures of choice.

00:44:32 --> 00:44:34

It also emphasizes suffering.

00:44:36 --> 00:44:39

Suffer. Hey. That's pretty nice writing. It also

00:44:39 --> 00:44:42

emphasizes suffering. Human beings are gonna suffer here

00:44:42 --> 00:44:43

on earth. That's the first thing that the

00:44:43 --> 00:44:44

story mentions.

00:44:44 --> 00:44:46

Spread corruption and shed blood?

00:44:47 --> 00:44:49

Havoc suffering pain?

00:44:50 --> 00:44:53

Yes. These three things play a central role

00:44:53 --> 00:44:55

somehow, the story is saying, in our development

00:44:55 --> 00:44:57

on earth, in our very purpose of our

00:44:57 --> 00:44:57

development.

00:44:58 --> 00:44:59

These are the three things we've always had

00:44:59 --> 00:45:02

the most trouble grappling with all theologies

00:45:03 --> 00:45:03

have.

00:45:04 --> 00:45:05

Why can this interplay?

00:45:06 --> 00:45:08

If it leads us often to challenge in

00:45:08 --> 00:45:10

our minds the existence of god, if we

00:45:10 --> 00:45:11

can't reconcile

00:45:12 --> 00:45:14

the existence of God with our minds, with

00:45:14 --> 00:45:15

our reason,

00:45:15 --> 00:45:17

why give us choice if we can choose

00:45:17 --> 00:45:19

to do wrong? Just make us angels.

00:45:20 --> 00:45:21

Why not suffer us on earth? Just pop

00:45:21 --> 00:45:22

us into heaven.

00:45:23 --> 00:45:25

And here, the Quran is telling that these

00:45:25 --> 00:45:26

play essential roles

00:45:27 --> 00:45:29

in our in our attaining of faith.

00:45:29 --> 00:45:31

Not only these, of course, it also mentions

00:45:31 --> 00:45:32

guidance, god's forgiveness,

00:45:33 --> 00:45:33

revelation,

00:45:34 --> 00:45:34

etcetera,

00:45:35 --> 00:45:38

angelic forces, satanic temptation. It mentions all these

00:45:38 --> 00:45:40

other things as well. But these three essentially

00:45:40 --> 00:45:41

really caught my attention.

00:45:42 --> 00:45:44

I never expected that these three things would

00:45:44 --> 00:45:45

be emphasized.

00:45:47 --> 00:45:49

And so as I read through the Quran,

00:45:49 --> 00:45:51

I looked anytime I saw anything that seemed

00:45:51 --> 00:45:53

to relate to this, I would write down

00:45:53 --> 00:45:54

notes and underline it.

00:45:55 --> 00:45:56

You know, and I would walk up and

00:45:56 --> 00:45:58

down in San Francisco with my pen as

00:45:58 --> 00:45:59

I'm walking, because I like to walk about

00:45:59 --> 00:46:01

7 miles every day, and I'd be underlining.

00:46:02 --> 00:46:03

My friends would always say, Jeff what book

00:46:03 --> 00:46:05

are you reading? And I would lie to

00:46:05 --> 00:46:06

them. I tell them, oh it's a great

00:46:06 --> 00:46:07

novel or something. You know, I didn't want

00:46:07 --> 00:46:08

them

00:46:08 --> 00:46:10

to know that I was reading the Quran.

00:46:10 --> 00:46:12

I think they thought I was going nuts.

00:46:14 --> 00:46:15

But in any case,

00:46:16 --> 00:46:18

so I very quickly I was wondering, does

00:46:18 --> 00:46:20

the Quran really emphasize reason? Does it really

00:46:20 --> 00:46:23

emphasize choice? Does it really emphasize suffering?

00:46:24 --> 00:46:27

How much more time do I have, madam

00:46:27 --> 00:46:27

speaker?

00:46:27 --> 00:46:28

35.

00:46:28 --> 00:46:30

35? 25. 25. Okay.

00:46:31 --> 00:46:33

I'll do the best I can. So let

00:46:33 --> 00:46:34

me just try to indicate to you as

00:46:34 --> 00:46:36

I read through the Quran, and I'll try

00:46:36 --> 00:46:37

to get through this quickly because you guys

00:46:37 --> 00:46:38

look tired.

00:46:38 --> 00:46:40

And I know you're interested to find out

00:46:40 --> 00:46:42

how that basketball game is turning out.

00:46:45 --> 00:46:47

Let's see. Does the Quran really emphasize reason

00:46:47 --> 00:46:49

as essential to human growth?

00:46:49 --> 00:46:52

To this experience we're having on earth, to

00:46:52 --> 00:46:53

our very purpose?

00:46:53 --> 00:46:55

And the answer is definitely yes.

00:46:56 --> 00:46:58

So much so that even Western orientalists,

00:46:59 --> 00:47:01

people who wrote against the Quran

00:47:01 --> 00:47:03

and said that this is a major feature

00:47:03 --> 00:47:04

of the Quran,

00:47:05 --> 00:47:06

a feature that you cannot miss.

00:47:07 --> 00:47:08

Honore laments,

00:47:08 --> 00:47:10

writing in the early part of this century,

00:47:10 --> 00:47:11

the fame one of the famous orientalists,

00:47:12 --> 00:47:14

you know, who wrote very much against Muslims

00:47:14 --> 00:47:16

hoping to unseat them from their religious belief.

00:47:17 --> 00:47:19

He wrote, the Quran, and this is a

00:47:19 --> 00:47:22

quote, is not far from considering unbelief as

00:47:22 --> 00:47:23

an infirmity of the human mind.

00:47:24 --> 00:47:25

Unbelief is,

00:47:26 --> 00:47:28

he thought, and he was saying it mockingly.

00:47:28 --> 00:47:30

It's like, you know, you can't think straight.

00:47:31 --> 00:47:33

You're not using your mind right, as my

00:47:33 --> 00:47:34

father used to say.

00:47:37 --> 00:47:40

Maxime Rodinson wrote at length about the the

00:47:40 --> 00:47:40

rationalistic

00:47:41 --> 00:47:43

approach of the Quran to faith.

00:47:45 --> 00:47:46

And this rational tone of the Quran is

00:47:46 --> 00:47:49

one of its most salient features beyond doubt.

00:47:49 --> 00:47:51

I'll just give you a few quotations is

00:47:51 --> 00:47:51

that

00:47:52 --> 00:47:54

one of its fundamental themes is that people

00:47:54 --> 00:47:57

ignore or reject god's science and corrupt religion

00:47:58 --> 00:48:00

precisely because they do not use their reason.

00:48:00 --> 00:48:02

The Quran will say that again and again

00:48:02 --> 00:48:05

and again. The Quran says about the disbelievers,

00:48:05 --> 00:48:06

they refuse to reason

00:48:07 --> 00:48:09

and are people who do not reason. I

00:48:09 --> 00:48:11

have 7 such quotes in the Quran.

00:48:12 --> 00:48:13

The,

00:48:13 --> 00:48:15

the Quran will say, will you not reason?

00:48:16 --> 00:48:18

It mentions that 14 times to the reader.

00:48:20 --> 00:48:22

God reveals signs and lessons and admonitions so

00:48:22 --> 00:48:23

that and this is a quote from the

00:48:23 --> 00:48:26

Quran. Perhaps perhaps you will finally use your

00:48:26 --> 00:48:27

reason.

00:48:27 --> 00:48:29

There are 8 such statements in the Quran.

00:48:31 --> 00:48:33

From the Quran's viewpoint, reason and faith are

00:48:33 --> 00:48:34

allies

00:48:34 --> 00:48:37

just as the logic and false belief

00:48:38 --> 00:48:40

are allies. And it clearly sets the conflict

00:48:40 --> 00:48:42

along these lines. It says the right way

00:48:42 --> 00:48:44

has henceforth become clear from error.

00:48:45 --> 00:48:47

Those who benefit most from the Quran

00:48:47 --> 00:48:49

are persons of insight.

00:48:50 --> 00:48:52

16 such statements in the Quran. Firmly rooted

00:48:52 --> 00:48:55

in knowledge, 8 such statements. Used to reason,

00:48:55 --> 00:48:57

10 such statements. Stand on clear evidence and

00:48:57 --> 00:48:59

proof, 7 such steep statements.

00:48:59 --> 00:49:02

Those who oppose this revelation are diluted.

00:49:02 --> 00:49:05

9 such statements. In manifest error, 28 such

00:49:05 --> 00:49:08

statements. Ignorant, 15. Foolish, 3. Have no understanding,

00:49:08 --> 00:49:11

9. Only follow surmise and conjecture, 9, and

00:49:11 --> 00:49:13

blindly adhere to tradition

00:49:13 --> 00:49:15

multiple, multiple times.

00:49:15 --> 00:49:16

So it states that.

00:49:17 --> 00:49:19

In an almost Socratic style, the Koran repeatedly

00:49:19 --> 00:49:22

quizzes the reader and calls into question his

00:49:22 --> 00:49:24

or her assumptions. Again and then, it asks

00:49:24 --> 00:49:24

us,

00:49:25 --> 00:49:26

what do you think?

00:49:27 --> 00:49:30

18 such statements. Have you considered this or

00:49:30 --> 00:49:31

that? 13.

00:49:31 --> 00:49:33

Did you suppose? 7. Sounds like a math

00:49:33 --> 00:49:34

teacher.

00:49:35 --> 00:49:37

Do they not ponder? 2 such statements. Do

00:49:37 --> 00:49:40

you think? Do you even think? 18 such

00:49:40 --> 00:49:40

statements.

00:49:41 --> 00:49:42

The message is clear.

00:49:43 --> 00:49:45

To gain truer faith, we need to free

00:49:45 --> 00:49:48

ourselves from inherited notions and examine our beliefs

00:49:48 --> 00:49:49

rationally.

00:49:50 --> 00:49:52

Learning plays a key role in human development.

00:49:53 --> 00:49:55

Read, the Quran, exhorts the reader.

00:49:55 --> 00:49:57

For god taught us the use of the

00:49:57 --> 00:49:59

pen and taught humankind what it otherwise could

00:49:59 --> 00:50:00

not know.

00:50:00 --> 00:50:02

In life, nature, and history, in the Quran,

00:50:02 --> 00:50:04

there are signs and lessons for those who

00:50:04 --> 00:50:07

are wise. There are 21 such statements. The

00:50:07 --> 00:50:10

Quran states over 100 times that has been

00:50:10 --> 00:50:12

revealed to make things clear.

00:50:13 --> 00:50:15

I thought the author of this Quran must

00:50:15 --> 00:50:17

have had strong mathematical insight.

00:50:17 --> 00:50:19

You know, a natural mathematician.

00:50:19 --> 00:50:21

All throughout, when I was reading, I was

00:50:21 --> 00:50:22

trying to imagine what he must have been

00:50:22 --> 00:50:23

like.

00:50:24 --> 00:50:26

God teaches humanity both directly and indirectly, and

00:50:26 --> 00:50:29

thumb sometimes so subtly that we are unaware

00:50:29 --> 00:50:30

of his instruction.

00:50:30 --> 00:50:33

Thus, he tests us in multifer multifarious ways.

00:50:33 --> 00:50:35

Of course, I just wanna make it clear.

00:50:35 --> 00:50:36

Muslims believe the

00:50:37 --> 00:50:39

God himself is the the author of the

00:50:39 --> 00:50:40

Quran.

00:50:40 --> 00:50:41

You know, sometimes I give this speech and

00:50:41 --> 00:50:43

people come away and ask me, Jeff, who

00:50:43 --> 00:50:45

is the author of the Quran? Anyway.

00:50:49 --> 00:50:51

But, you know, I was I didn't know.

00:50:52 --> 00:50:53

So I was just trying to make figure

00:50:53 --> 00:50:54

it out.

00:50:55 --> 00:50:57

Repetition is indicative of the importance given to

00:50:57 --> 00:50:59

certain ideas. It should be observed that the

00:50:59 --> 00:51:02

Arabic word for knowledge in the Quran, alm,

00:51:02 --> 00:51:03

appears 854

00:51:04 --> 00:51:06

times in the text in its various forms.

00:51:07 --> 00:51:09

It's one of the most frequently occurring words.

00:51:10 --> 00:51:12

So the Quran really does put great emphasis

00:51:13 --> 00:51:14

on reason

00:51:14 --> 00:51:16

in our spiritual quest.

00:51:17 --> 00:51:19

Does it put great emphasis on choice?

00:51:20 --> 00:51:21

Well, here's what it has to say. Let

00:51:21 --> 00:51:23

there be no compulsion in religion.

00:51:24 --> 00:51:26

The right way is henceforth clear from error.

00:51:27 --> 00:51:28

It's a choice

00:51:28 --> 00:51:30

and it must be freely made.

00:51:31 --> 00:51:32

And it's a choice

00:51:33 --> 00:51:37

between correctness and error, between right and error,

00:51:37 --> 00:51:39

between reason and falsity.

00:51:40 --> 00:51:42

Had God willed, he could have indeed guided

00:51:42 --> 00:51:44

you all.

00:51:44 --> 00:51:45

It says in the Quran.

00:51:46 --> 00:51:47

Why not? I thought.

00:51:47 --> 00:51:49

Why not just guide us all?

00:51:50 --> 00:51:51

Why let some of us choose to go

00:51:51 --> 00:51:52

this way and that way?

00:51:53 --> 00:51:56

The Quran is constantly provoking me as I

00:51:56 --> 00:51:56

read it.

00:51:57 --> 00:51:59

Do not the unbelievers know that had God

00:51:59 --> 00:52:01

willed He could have guided all mankind?

00:52:02 --> 00:52:04

Oh. Do not the believers know that had

00:52:04 --> 00:52:06

God willed He could have guided all mankind?

00:52:07 --> 00:52:08

Okay. I'm an unbeliever, I thought. Tell me,

00:52:08 --> 00:52:10

why didn't you guide all mankind?

00:52:11 --> 00:52:13

If you want us to be sub in

00:52:13 --> 00:52:16

conformity of your will, just make us that

00:52:16 --> 00:52:16

way.

00:52:17 --> 00:52:19

And if we had so will, we could

00:52:19 --> 00:52:21

have given every soul its guidance.

00:52:22 --> 00:52:23

Why did you let us be creatures of

00:52:23 --> 00:52:24

choice?

00:52:25 --> 00:52:27

Just program us to do the right thing,

00:52:28 --> 00:52:29

never make a wrong choice.

00:52:30 --> 00:52:32

Had God willed, he could have made us

00:52:32 --> 00:52:33

all one community, he could have made us

00:52:33 --> 00:52:34

clones of one another,

00:52:35 --> 00:52:36

but he didn't.

00:52:36 --> 00:52:38

It wasn't part of his plan.

00:52:39 --> 00:52:41

Enlightenment has come from your Lord. He who

00:52:41 --> 00:52:43

sees does so to his own good. He

00:52:43 --> 00:52:44

who is

00:52:44 --> 00:52:46

blind is so to his own hurt.

00:52:46 --> 00:52:47

It's your choice.

00:52:48 --> 00:52:50

Says it again and again in the Quran.

00:52:50 --> 00:52:51

Remember when I was reading this, I was

00:52:51 --> 00:52:52

a disbeliever.

00:52:52 --> 00:52:54

You know? And I've had This scripture is

00:52:54 --> 00:52:56

constantly reminding me, it's your choice, Ja.

00:52:57 --> 00:52:57

It's

00:52:58 --> 00:53:00

no compulsion in this. It's your choice.

00:53:00 --> 00:53:01

It's up to

00:53:02 --> 00:53:04

you. You don't, you know, you're not might

00:53:04 --> 00:53:06

You're probably not reasoning correctly here. Think a

00:53:06 --> 00:53:08

little harder. Come on. Try.

00:53:08 --> 00:53:09

Just a few more steps.

00:53:12 --> 00:53:13

And whoever is guided is only to his

00:53:13 --> 00:53:15

own gain. And whoever is stray, I am

00:53:15 --> 00:53:16

only a warner.

00:53:17 --> 00:53:18

It's your choice.

00:53:19 --> 00:53:21

We have revealed to you the book with

00:53:21 --> 00:53:22

the truth for mankind. He who lets himself

00:53:22 --> 00:53:24

be guided does so as for his own

00:53:24 --> 00:53:26

good. He who goes astray, it's his own

00:53:26 --> 00:53:27

to his own

00:53:28 --> 00:53:29

hurt. It's his choice.

00:53:30 --> 00:53:32

There are many, many such references. I'll stop

00:53:32 --> 00:53:34

there. But you get the point.

00:53:34 --> 00:53:35

Khan clearly emphasizes

00:53:36 --> 00:53:36

that

00:53:37 --> 00:53:39

choice plays a key role in our development.

00:53:40 --> 00:53:41

But what about suffering?

00:53:42 --> 00:53:45

I mean, you know, suffering is the biggie.

00:53:45 --> 00:53:47

Right? I mean, that's the real major question.

00:53:48 --> 00:53:49

What does the Quran have to say about

00:53:49 --> 00:53:50

suffering?

00:53:50 --> 00:53:52

You know, because every religion deals with suffering

00:53:52 --> 00:53:53

in a different way.

00:53:54 --> 00:53:55

You know, you it's either something you have

00:53:55 --> 00:53:56

to be saved from.

00:53:57 --> 00:53:59

And so some religions stress salvation.

00:54:01 --> 00:54:03

Or it's something that you have to sort

00:54:03 --> 00:54:04

of transcend

00:54:04 --> 00:54:05

through meditation

00:54:05 --> 00:54:07

and training so you can sort of not

00:54:07 --> 00:54:09

feel it so much, get above it and

00:54:09 --> 00:54:10

beyond it.

00:54:12 --> 00:54:15

Some religions see it as primarily punishment.

00:54:16 --> 00:54:18

Some see it as some of the more

00:54:18 --> 00:54:21

ancient religions see it as the result of

00:54:21 --> 00:54:23

the precarious and whimsical,

00:54:23 --> 00:54:26

you know, control of many gods working against

00:54:26 --> 00:54:28

each other, playing with human beings.

00:54:29 --> 00:54:31

Different religions have dealt with it in different

00:54:31 --> 00:54:31

ways.

00:54:32 --> 00:54:34

But almost all of them, I would indeed

00:54:34 --> 00:54:35

say all of them, have sort of seen

00:54:35 --> 00:54:37

it as something not so good.

00:54:39 --> 00:54:40

But let's see what the Quran has to

00:54:40 --> 00:54:43

say about it. Something to be avoided, to

00:54:43 --> 00:54:46

transcended, to be saved from. The Quran says

00:54:47 --> 00:54:49

just the opposite. You are going to experience

00:54:50 --> 00:54:50

it.

00:54:51 --> 00:54:53

You will suffer

00:54:53 --> 00:54:54

in this life.

00:54:55 --> 00:54:58

And it plays a fundamental role in your

00:54:58 --> 00:55:00

development and your growth and in what you

00:55:00 --> 00:55:00

are to become.

00:55:01 --> 00:55:04

This scripture didn't just say you're gonna experience

00:55:04 --> 00:55:06

it, it said you should embrace it.

00:55:07 --> 00:55:10

You should struggle through it. Your life should

00:55:10 --> 00:55:11

be a struggle, it says.

00:55:12 --> 00:55:13

It should be a jihad.

00:55:14 --> 00:55:15

Yeah.

00:55:17 --> 00:55:18

But

00:55:19 --> 00:55:21

that's that's what it says.

00:55:21 --> 00:55:24

Jihad means struggle. When the Quran most says

00:55:24 --> 00:55:27

jihad, it's very seldom it's most often not

00:55:27 --> 00:55:29

in the context of fighting. Qatar is the

00:55:29 --> 00:55:30

Arabic word for fighting.

00:55:31 --> 00:55:32

But, you know, it says even in the

00:55:32 --> 00:55:35

Mecca verse long before Muslims had to defend

00:55:35 --> 00:55:37

themselves against the oppressors,

00:55:37 --> 00:55:38

mentions that you have to struggle in the

00:55:38 --> 00:55:39

path of God.

00:55:40 --> 00:55:42

With the Quran, it even says.

00:55:43 --> 00:55:44

Struggle in the path of God with this

00:55:44 --> 00:55:45

Quran.

00:55:46 --> 00:55:47

Life is a struggle. It says in one

00:55:47 --> 00:55:48

verse,

00:55:48 --> 00:55:50

most assuredly we will try you with something

00:55:50 --> 00:55:52

of danger and hunger and the loss of

00:55:52 --> 00:55:53

worldly goods,

00:55:54 --> 00:55:55

with the loss of your lives and the

00:55:55 --> 00:55:58

fruits of your labor. Most assuredly, we will

00:55:58 --> 00:55:58

try you.

00:55:59 --> 00:56:01

It's not just talking about evil people, good

00:56:01 --> 00:56:02

people.

00:56:03 --> 00:56:05

But give the good news, the glad tidings.

00:56:05 --> 00:56:06

Be happy

00:56:07 --> 00:56:09

for those who are patient in adversity

00:56:09 --> 00:56:10

and suffering.

00:56:11 --> 00:56:12

Good news, I thought?

00:56:13 --> 00:56:14

Doesn't the author understand

00:56:15 --> 00:56:17

the terrible effects of suffering?

00:56:18 --> 00:56:20

Give the good news to those who are

00:56:20 --> 00:56:23

patient through adversity, who when calamity befalls them

00:56:23 --> 00:56:25

say, truly unto God we belong and truly

00:56:25 --> 00:56:27

unto him we shall return.

00:56:28 --> 00:56:30

In other words, that this could benefit them.

00:56:32 --> 00:56:33

It's a remarkable

00:56:33 --> 00:56:34

statement.

00:56:34 --> 00:56:36

Here's another one. Do you think that you

00:56:36 --> 00:56:38

can enter paradise without having the like of

00:56:38 --> 00:56:40

those who passed away before you?

00:56:40 --> 00:56:43

And the next verses start to explain these

00:56:43 --> 00:56:45

people were good people who suffered terribly.

00:56:46 --> 00:56:47

Do you think that you can enter paradise

00:56:47 --> 00:56:49

without having going through this without going through

00:56:49 --> 00:56:50

the same?

00:56:51 --> 00:56:53

Why I thought? Why do do you have

00:56:53 --> 00:56:55

Why do we have to suffer in life?

00:56:55 --> 00:56:58

Misfortune and hardship befell them and so shaken

00:56:58 --> 00:56:59

were they that the apostle and the believers

00:56:59 --> 00:57:00

with them would

00:57:01 --> 00:57:03

exclaim, when will God's help come? These are

00:57:03 --> 00:57:04

good people.

00:57:05 --> 00:57:06

When will God's help come?

00:57:07 --> 00:57:10

Oh, truly God's help is always near.

00:57:11 --> 00:57:13

You will certainly be tried in your possessions

00:57:13 --> 00:57:15

in yourselves, the Quran tells the reader. You're

00:57:15 --> 00:57:17

gonna have face hardship.

00:57:17 --> 00:57:18

It's

00:57:19 --> 00:57:21

guaranteed. Every soul must taste of death and

00:57:21 --> 00:57:24

may try you with calamity and prosperity both

00:57:24 --> 00:57:25

as a means of trial.

00:57:26 --> 00:57:28

And to us you are returned.

00:57:29 --> 00:57:31

You are going to have hardship here. There

00:57:31 --> 00:57:33

is gonna be no pit no heaven on

00:57:33 --> 00:57:33

earth.

00:57:35 --> 00:57:37

This is a environment is made to be

00:57:37 --> 00:57:39

an environment of adversity. It is made to

00:57:39 --> 00:57:40

be an environment where you have to work,

00:57:40 --> 00:57:42

where you have to struggle, where you have

00:57:42 --> 00:57:43

to strive.

00:57:45 --> 00:57:48

And it plays a key role. Oh, man,

00:57:48 --> 00:57:50

truly have been toiling to your Lord and

00:57:50 --> 00:57:52

painful toil but you shall meet him.

00:57:54 --> 00:57:55

You're toiling. Yes.

00:57:56 --> 00:57:57

But you shall meet him.

00:57:58 --> 00:58:00

We certainly created man to face distress. What

00:58:00 --> 00:58:01

I thought?

00:58:01 --> 00:58:04

We certainly have created man to face distress.

00:58:04 --> 00:58:06

You made us to face distress?

00:58:08 --> 00:58:10

Does he think that no one has power

00:58:10 --> 00:58:12

over him? Sometimes people get, you know, so

00:58:12 --> 00:58:14

so down. They just think,

00:58:14 --> 00:58:16

this no one's that can't be a god.

00:58:16 --> 00:58:17

Look how I'm suffering.

00:58:19 --> 00:58:21

He would say, I have wasted much wealth.

00:58:21 --> 00:58:24

Some people just become totally devoted to worldly

00:58:24 --> 00:58:26

age. Does he think that no one sees

00:58:26 --> 00:58:28

him? Have we not given him 2 eyes

00:58:28 --> 00:58:29

to see you in? A tongue

00:58:30 --> 00:58:32

and 2 lips to communicate with? To learn

00:58:32 --> 00:58:35

from by communicating? Can he see around him?

00:58:35 --> 00:58:37

Can he tell from communication with other people?

00:58:37 --> 00:58:39

Haven't we pointed out to him the 2

00:58:39 --> 00:58:40

conspicuous ways?

00:58:42 --> 00:58:43

What are the 2 conspicuous ways?

00:58:44 --> 00:58:46

But he attempts not the uphill climb.

00:58:48 --> 00:58:49

One of them is uphill climb.

00:58:50 --> 00:58:51

And he says this is the way you

00:58:51 --> 00:58:52

should be pursuing.

00:58:53 --> 00:58:55

And what will make you comprehend the uphill

00:58:55 --> 00:58:55

climb?

00:58:56 --> 00:58:58

Is to free a slave

00:58:58 --> 00:59:00

or to feed in a day of hunger,

00:59:00 --> 00:59:02

an orphan nearly related, or the poor one

00:59:02 --> 00:59:03

lying in the dust.

00:59:04 --> 00:59:05

Then

00:59:05 --> 00:59:07

he or she is of those who believe

00:59:07 --> 00:59:10

and exhorts one another to patience, and exhorts

00:59:10 --> 00:59:11

one another to mercy.

00:59:11 --> 00:59:13

You have not attained to faith until you

00:59:13 --> 00:59:15

struggle the uphill climb,

00:59:16 --> 00:59:18

it's telling us. You should pursue the uphill

00:59:18 --> 00:59:20

climb. What is the uphill climb?

00:59:21 --> 00:59:22

Reaching out to your fellow man who's in

00:59:22 --> 00:59:24

his who suffers

00:59:25 --> 00:59:27

to feed the poor one,

00:59:28 --> 00:59:30

to help the poor soul that's lying in

00:59:30 --> 00:59:32

the dust. And all over the world, there

00:59:32 --> 00:59:33

are people in that state.

00:59:33 --> 00:59:35

And we watch the news

00:59:35 --> 00:59:37

as if it's just entertainment.

00:59:38 --> 00:59:40

And the Quran tells us this is something

00:59:40 --> 00:59:42

you should involve yourself as that is the

00:59:42 --> 00:59:43

road that you should travel.

00:59:44 --> 00:59:48

It describes a successful life as an uphill

00:59:48 --> 00:59:48

climb.

00:59:49 --> 00:59:50

Well,

00:59:50 --> 00:59:51

I could see I'm running out of time

00:59:51 --> 00:59:52

so I'm gonna have to tie this up

00:59:52 --> 00:59:54

in about 15 minutes, I guess.

00:59:55 --> 00:59:56

But,

00:59:57 --> 00:59:58

definitely, the Quran

00:59:59 --> 00:59:59

emphasizes

00:59:59 --> 01:00:02

these three elements in the human drama.

01:00:03 --> 01:00:04

But as I read through it, I couldn't

01:00:04 --> 01:00:06

see how it all fit together.

01:00:06 --> 01:00:08

I mean, why didn't god just

01:00:08 --> 01:00:09

why? Why?

01:00:11 --> 01:00:13

Why do we have to experience these? What

01:00:13 --> 01:00:15

purpose do they play? Just pop us in

01:00:15 --> 01:00:16

the hammers. Beam us up,

01:00:17 --> 01:00:18

I thought.

01:00:20 --> 01:00:22

Well, one thing like I mentioned before, the

01:00:22 --> 01:00:23

Con will repeatedly,

01:00:25 --> 01:00:26

emphasize that we're here to grow

01:00:27 --> 01:00:28

and to learn.

01:00:29 --> 01:00:31

And some just I'll give you 4 or

01:00:31 --> 01:00:32

5 quick verses because I know you're tired.

01:00:33 --> 01:00:33

It says,

01:00:34 --> 01:00:36

our lord and raise up in their midst

01:00:36 --> 01:00:38

the messenger from among them who shall recite

01:00:38 --> 01:00:41

unto them your signs and shall teach them

01:00:41 --> 01:00:42

the book and the wisdom,

01:00:43 --> 01:00:45

and who shall cause them to grow.

01:00:46 --> 01:00:48

We should we have to learn to learn

01:00:48 --> 01:00:50

wisdom in the book,

01:00:50 --> 01:00:53

Revelation in particular, and who shall cause us

01:00:53 --> 01:00:53

to grow.

01:00:54 --> 01:00:56

And we have sent among you of yourselves

01:00:56 --> 01:00:58

a messenger to recite our signs to you

01:00:58 --> 01:00:59

and to cause you to grow.

01:01:00 --> 01:01:02

Truly God was gracious to the believers, this

01:01:02 --> 01:01:04

is in the 3rd Sura, When he raised

01:01:04 --> 01:01:06

up from among them a messenger from themselves

01:01:06 --> 01:01:08

to recite his signs to them and to

01:01:08 --> 01:01:09

cause them to grow.

01:01:10 --> 01:01:11

It is he who was sent among you

01:01:11 --> 01:01:14

the the who was sent among the unlettered

01:01:14 --> 01:01:16

people, a messenger from among them to recite

01:01:16 --> 01:01:18

his signs and to cause them to grow.

01:01:18 --> 01:01:21

These are all distinct references. Just 2 more.

01:01:21 --> 01:01:22

There are many more.

01:01:22 --> 01:01:24

And the soul and that which breathed into

01:01:24 --> 01:01:26

it, its immorality and its god consciousness, he

01:01:26 --> 01:01:29

is indeed successful who causes it to grow.

01:01:29 --> 01:01:31

And he is indeed a failure who stunts

01:01:31 --> 01:01:32

it.

01:01:32 --> 01:01:35

And in verse in the 92nd Surah Surah

01:01:35 --> 01:01:37

Elayel, it says, far removed from it will

01:01:37 --> 01:01:39

be the righteous who give his wealth

01:01:39 --> 01:01:40

that he may grow.

01:01:42 --> 01:01:44

So the purpose somehow is to grow. We're

01:01:44 --> 01:01:46

in a growing, learning,

01:01:46 --> 01:01:47

developing

01:01:47 --> 01:01:48

experience.

01:01:48 --> 01:01:50

We weren't just created when we came into

01:01:50 --> 01:01:52

the world. This is actually a stage of

01:01:52 --> 01:01:53

our creation.

01:01:53 --> 01:01:55

Just as our development in the womb was

01:01:55 --> 01:01:57

a stage in our creation,

01:01:57 --> 01:02:00

our essential stage in our physical creation,

01:02:00 --> 01:02:03

this is an essential stage in our

01:02:03 --> 01:02:03

personality

01:02:04 --> 01:02:06

creation, in the creation of our real being.

01:02:07 --> 01:02:09

That which we take into the next life,

01:02:09 --> 01:02:11

our essential selves.

01:02:11 --> 01:02:14

We've gone from the physical creation in the

01:02:14 --> 01:02:17

womb, primarily physical, now to the human creation,

01:02:17 --> 01:02:18

the personality

01:02:19 --> 01:02:20

creation in this stage.

01:02:24 --> 01:02:27

I thought maybe I'm, you know, projecting my

01:02:27 --> 01:02:29

own neurosis into the scripture. Maybe it doesn't

01:02:29 --> 01:02:29

really

01:02:30 --> 01:02:31

emphasize

01:02:31 --> 01:02:33

that life has a purpose,

01:02:33 --> 01:02:35

But time and time again, I would find

01:02:35 --> 01:02:37

it does. For example, just quickly it says,

01:02:37 --> 01:02:40

those who remember god standing and sitting and

01:02:40 --> 01:02:42

lying down and reflect upon the creations of

01:02:42 --> 01:02:44

the heaven and earth and say,

01:02:44 --> 01:02:46

our lord, you did not create all this

01:02:46 --> 01:02:48

in vain. You did not create all this

01:02:48 --> 01:02:48

in purpose.

01:02:49 --> 01:02:50

Just when I was starting to think, maybe

01:02:50 --> 01:02:52

the Quran really doesn't

01:02:52 --> 01:02:54

state a purpose or life. It really doesn't

01:02:54 --> 01:02:56

mean there's a real purpose of life. Maybe

01:02:56 --> 01:02:58

I'm reading into it something that is there.

01:02:58 --> 01:03:00

I would come upon verses like that

01:03:00 --> 01:03:02

that would force me to just read a

01:03:02 --> 01:03:04

little further. Make me think, well, maybe it's

01:03:04 --> 01:03:05

just around the corner.

01:03:06 --> 01:03:08

We have not created the heaven and the

01:03:08 --> 01:03:10

earth and whatever is between them in play.

01:03:10 --> 01:03:12

If we wish to take a sport, we

01:03:12 --> 01:03:14

could have done it by ourselves. If we

01:03:14 --> 01:03:15

were to do that at all.

01:03:16 --> 01:03:18

God doesn't create to satisfy his whims or

01:03:18 --> 01:03:20

fancies or entertain himself.

01:03:21 --> 01:03:23

Do you think that we created you purposely

01:03:23 --> 01:03:24

and that you will not be returned to

01:03:24 --> 01:03:27

us? It says in the 23rd Surah. The

01:03:27 --> 01:03:29

true sovereign is too exalted above that.

01:03:30 --> 01:03:31

In the 44th surah, we did not create

01:03:31 --> 01:03:33

the heavens and earth and all that is

01:03:33 --> 01:03:34

between them in play.

01:03:36 --> 01:03:37

That serves a purpose.

01:03:40 --> 01:03:42

Now what sort of purpose can it possibly

01:03:42 --> 01:03:44

serve? So I tried to, you know apparently,

01:03:44 --> 01:03:46

the Quran speaks about believers and those who

01:03:46 --> 01:03:47

are the rejecters.

01:03:47 --> 01:03:49

If the believers on in one hand, the

01:03:49 --> 01:03:52

rejecters on the other. Now apparently, God has

01:03:52 --> 01:03:54

created us to be believers. So I tried

01:03:54 --> 01:03:56

to study what the Quran has to say

01:03:56 --> 01:03:58

about the believers, It's a natural thing to

01:03:58 --> 01:04:02

do. To see how what he it wants

01:04:02 --> 01:04:04

us to become, if it has anything to

01:04:04 --> 01:04:07

do with these essential elements that it stated.

01:04:07 --> 01:04:09

I mean, it's a natural way to approach

01:04:09 --> 01:04:10

it. I think you agree.

01:04:10 --> 01:04:11

Do you agree?

01:04:11 --> 01:04:13

Somebody nod your head.

01:04:14 --> 01:04:15

That's what I say to my math students.

01:04:15 --> 01:04:17

You know, just one head nod is enough

01:04:17 --> 01:04:18

for a mathematician.

01:04:21 --> 01:04:23

Get one head going, okay. I did my

01:04:23 --> 01:04:23

job.

01:04:24 --> 01:04:25

Okay. So

01:04:26 --> 01:04:27

how does the

01:04:28 --> 01:04:31

Quran describe the believers? What are they supposed

01:04:31 --> 01:04:33

to attain to? What is their ultimate

01:04:34 --> 01:04:36

thing that they're supposed to get? What are

01:04:36 --> 01:04:38

they ultimately supposed to achieve? And it's very

01:04:38 --> 01:04:40

clear when you read the the Quran that

01:04:40 --> 01:04:41

what they will achieve

01:04:42 --> 01:04:44

in this life and will experience to so

01:04:44 --> 01:04:47

much greater degree in the next is they

01:04:47 --> 01:04:49

will experience a relationship of love with God.

01:04:50 --> 01:04:51

They will turn to God in love and

01:04:51 --> 01:04:53

God will turn to them in love.

01:04:54 --> 01:04:56

In the Quran, God's mercy, compassion,

01:04:57 --> 01:04:57

forgiveness,

01:04:58 --> 01:05:00

kindness, beneficence,

01:05:01 --> 01:05:02

warmth, generosity,

01:05:03 --> 01:05:05

all the things we normally think associated with

01:05:05 --> 01:05:07

god are freely given to all mankind.

01:05:09 --> 01:05:11

But when the God Quran speaks of God

01:05:11 --> 01:05:12

love,

01:05:12 --> 01:05:14

we would normally think of that as God's

01:05:14 --> 01:05:16

love. But when the Quran speaks about God's

01:05:16 --> 01:05:18

love, it's talking about something very special.

01:05:18 --> 01:05:20

His love is always presented as a relationship.

01:05:21 --> 01:05:23

A relationship between 2.

01:05:24 --> 01:05:25

Without

01:05:25 --> 01:05:27

if we do not turn to God in

01:05:27 --> 01:05:30

love, then we just receive his mercy, forgiveness,

01:05:30 --> 01:05:31

kindness,

01:05:31 --> 01:05:32

beneficence,

01:05:32 --> 01:05:33

warmth,

01:05:33 --> 01:05:34

generosity,

01:05:34 --> 01:05:37

all those wonderful nurturing things, his nurturing, and

01:05:37 --> 01:05:38

we reject it.

01:05:40 --> 01:05:43

And so we never really experience that love

01:05:43 --> 01:05:45

because we never really turn to it and

01:05:45 --> 01:05:47

open ourselves up to it. It is always

01:05:47 --> 01:05:48

there for us,

01:05:49 --> 01:05:51

but unless we enter into that relationship,

01:05:51 --> 01:05:54

that love, that give and take, that relationship

01:05:54 --> 01:05:55

of love

01:05:55 --> 01:05:56

is never

01:05:57 --> 01:05:58

develops.

01:05:58 --> 01:06:00

We reject it. And that's what the word

01:06:00 --> 01:06:03

Kafir means. It means to to reject, to

01:06:03 --> 01:06:05

turn your back, to ignore, to throw something

01:06:05 --> 01:06:07

a gift that someone gives you behind your

01:06:07 --> 01:06:08

back.

01:06:10 --> 01:06:12

And so the Quran tells us that the

01:06:12 --> 01:06:13

believers will experience

01:06:13 --> 01:06:16

this sublime relationship of love.

01:06:17 --> 01:06:19

It says, yet there are men who take

01:06:19 --> 01:06:21

others besides God as equal, loving them as

01:06:21 --> 01:06:23

they should love God, but those who believe

01:06:24 --> 01:06:25

love God more ardently.

01:06:26 --> 01:06:28

Say, if you love God, follow me and

01:06:28 --> 01:06:30

God will love you and forgive you your

01:06:30 --> 01:06:32

faults. For God is to forgiving the merciful.

01:06:33 --> 01:06:35

Oh, you believe, if any from among you

01:06:35 --> 01:06:37

should turn back from his faith, then God

01:06:37 --> 01:06:40

will assuredly bring a people he loves and

01:06:40 --> 01:06:41

who loves

01:06:41 --> 01:06:41

him.

01:06:42 --> 01:06:44

And throughout the Quran, I'll mention time and

01:06:44 --> 01:06:46

time again that god loves this the believer.

01:06:46 --> 01:06:49

God loves this type of person. God loves

01:06:49 --> 01:06:50

that type of person and so forth and

01:06:50 --> 01:06:51

so on.

01:06:53 --> 01:06:54

So it's quite and I'm trying to pick

01:06:54 --> 01:06:56

to speed up here, so you'll have to

01:06:56 --> 01:06:57

excuse me for

01:06:58 --> 01:07:00

that. But it is apparent from the Quran

01:07:00 --> 01:07:01

that one of the purposes of creation, maybe

01:07:01 --> 01:07:03

the essential purpose of the creation is to

01:07:03 --> 01:07:05

produce from this subset of humanity,

01:07:07 --> 01:07:10

This subset of humanity that will freely enter

01:07:10 --> 01:07:11

a relationship

01:07:11 --> 01:07:12

of love with God.

01:07:13 --> 01:07:15

They will not only experience the beauty of

01:07:15 --> 01:07:18

other relationships in their lives, but this love

01:07:18 --> 01:07:20

that they will experience with God

01:07:21 --> 01:07:24

is the sublime experience that they will enjoy.

01:07:24 --> 01:07:26

Not only in this life, but infinitely greater

01:07:26 --> 01:07:28

in the next when all the distractions,

01:07:29 --> 01:07:31

all the masks are stripped away.

01:07:33 --> 01:07:34

Okay, I thought.

01:07:34 --> 01:07:37

You created us to love you, for us

01:07:37 --> 01:07:38

to turn to you in love and to

01:07:38 --> 01:07:40

experience your love, to receive and experience your

01:07:40 --> 01:07:41

love.

01:07:42 --> 01:07:44

Why do you need these? Just pop us

01:07:44 --> 01:07:45

into heaven, love us,

01:07:45 --> 01:07:47

you know, and make us love you.

01:07:48 --> 01:07:50

Program us to love you. You know, you'll

01:07:50 --> 01:07:52

make my dog love me.

01:07:52 --> 01:07:53

You know?

01:07:53 --> 01:07:54

Do the same sort of thing.

01:07:56 --> 01:07:58

I kept on coming back to the same

01:07:58 --> 01:07:59

issue. Just do it.

01:08:00 --> 01:08:01

You

01:08:02 --> 01:08:03

know. Okay.

01:08:04 --> 01:08:05

Still couldn't see it and I was almost

01:08:05 --> 01:08:07

through the Quran and I thought either I'm

01:08:07 --> 01:08:08

dumb

01:08:08 --> 01:08:10

or this scripture just never really got to

01:08:10 --> 01:08:11

it.

01:08:12 --> 01:08:13

Okay. So I didn't give up.

01:08:14 --> 01:08:15

I thought, okay, what's the next natural thing

01:08:15 --> 01:08:18

to do? Okay. So the first so we're

01:08:18 --> 01:08:20

here to develop this relationship of love with

01:08:20 --> 01:08:22

God. The Quran tells us that, you know,

01:08:22 --> 01:08:24

if we are believers and we do good,

01:08:24 --> 01:08:26

we'll experience great joy and peace in this

01:08:26 --> 01:08:28

life, not only through our relationship with with

01:08:28 --> 01:08:31

God, but through complimentary relationships. Will all the

01:08:31 --> 01:08:33

people around us in this world will be

01:08:33 --> 01:08:35

a one for us of peace and serenity

01:08:35 --> 01:08:37

even though we have to struggle and survive

01:08:37 --> 01:08:37

and suffer.

01:08:39 --> 01:08:41

But I couldn't see, you know, how this

01:08:41 --> 01:08:43

all tied in with this suffering business and

01:08:43 --> 01:08:45

why he couldn't just put us into heaven.

01:08:46 --> 01:08:48

So what's the next natural thing to say?

01:08:48 --> 01:08:50

Okay. So we're created to have this relationship

01:08:50 --> 01:08:52

of love to with God, to enter this

01:08:52 --> 01:08:54

relationship, to experience and receive all that he

01:08:54 --> 01:08:55

has to offer us.

01:08:58 --> 01:09:00

So the natural thing to do is to

01:09:00 --> 01:09:02

study the 2 partners in that relationship.

01:09:03 --> 01:09:05

What does the Quran have to say about

01:09:05 --> 01:09:05

us,

01:09:06 --> 01:09:08

the believer? What does it ask of him

01:09:08 --> 01:09:10

and her? What does it require of them?

01:09:10 --> 01:09:12

And then what does the Quran tell us

01:09:12 --> 01:09:13

about god?

01:09:14 --> 01:09:16

And then is there some essential nexus, some

01:09:16 --> 01:09:18

essential connection between them and does it have

01:09:18 --> 01:09:19

anything to do with these?

01:09:21 --> 01:09:24

Because if the Quran doesn't show that,

01:09:25 --> 01:09:27

then the the essential link that links all

01:09:27 --> 01:09:29

this together, that pieces it all together is

01:09:29 --> 01:09:30

missing.

01:09:31 --> 01:09:34

And as I thought to myself, whoever this

01:09:34 --> 01:09:35

author is and by now I knew he

01:09:35 --> 01:09:36

had fantastic

01:09:36 --> 01:09:37

genius,

01:09:38 --> 01:09:40

even though he came from the primitive confines

01:09:40 --> 01:09:41

of the most backward,

01:09:42 --> 01:09:43

most uncivilized

01:09:43 --> 01:09:45

sector of humanity,

01:09:45 --> 01:09:48

of of people that had no literary history

01:09:48 --> 01:09:51

really to speak of. No great works of

01:09:51 --> 01:09:54

literature. No scriptures that preceded him. Even though

01:09:54 --> 01:09:55

he came from the desert

01:09:57 --> 01:09:57

of culture,

01:09:59 --> 01:10:01

even though this came out of that environment

01:10:01 --> 01:10:04

and the mind behind it had tremendously and

01:10:04 --> 01:10:04

gene

01:10:05 --> 01:10:06

phenomenally genius

01:10:07 --> 01:10:08

to come out of that surrounding

01:10:09 --> 01:10:10

and produce something like this.

01:10:11 --> 01:10:14

If that essential link was missing, I knew

01:10:14 --> 01:10:16

that, you know, he was great, but,

01:10:17 --> 01:10:19

you know, and he's extremely great.

01:10:19 --> 01:10:22

But, you know, he's you know, what do

01:10:22 --> 01:10:24

you expect? How can anybody answer those questions?

01:10:24 --> 01:10:25

Nobody in the history of humanity has been

01:10:25 --> 01:10:27

able to ask answer them.

01:10:28 --> 01:10:29

Okay.

01:10:29 --> 01:10:31

So I thought, first, I'll see what the

01:10:31 --> 01:10:33

Quran has to say about the believers, what

01:10:33 --> 01:10:35

does it require of them, then what it

01:10:35 --> 01:10:36

has to say about god and see if

01:10:36 --> 01:10:39

there's some essential link. Are you following me?

01:10:39 --> 01:10:40

Yes. You're giving me the note.

01:10:41 --> 01:10:43

Get off the stage.

01:10:46 --> 01:10:47

Okay. I'll do my best.

01:10:48 --> 01:10:50

It's a deep subject. We're almost done. Bear

01:10:50 --> 01:10:51

with me a few more minutes.

01:10:52 --> 01:10:53

I'm sorry. Really.

01:10:58 --> 01:11:00

I know Suraj Vahaj, when he gives these

01:11:00 --> 01:11:02

sort of speeches, he always says, okay. I'm

01:11:02 --> 01:11:03

finishing up now. And then 10 minutes later

01:11:03 --> 01:11:05

he says, you thought I was telling you

01:11:05 --> 01:11:05

to do

01:11:07 --> 01:11:09

I won't say that, but

01:11:09 --> 01:11:11

just give me a few more minutes. Bear

01:11:11 --> 01:11:11

with me.

01:11:12 --> 01:11:15

Okay. Quickly. What does the Quran ask of

01:11:15 --> 01:11:16

the believers?

01:11:16 --> 01:11:18

From the Quran's many exhortations

01:11:18 --> 01:11:20

and its descriptions of acts and types of

01:11:20 --> 01:11:22

individuals loved by God,

01:11:23 --> 01:11:25

it's not difficult to compose a partial list

01:11:25 --> 01:11:26

of

01:11:26 --> 01:11:28

things that the Quran wants

01:11:28 --> 01:11:31

us to do which it calls good deeds.

01:11:32 --> 01:11:33

Time and time again.

01:11:34 --> 01:11:36

To believe in God, to have faith in

01:11:36 --> 01:11:38

God, to have a relationship with God, and

01:11:38 --> 01:11:38

to do good.

01:11:40 --> 01:11:42

So what does it describe as these good

01:11:42 --> 01:11:42

deeds?

01:11:43 --> 01:11:45

Well, as I read through the Quran, it

01:11:45 --> 01:11:46

says that

01:11:47 --> 01:11:48

can I take this

01:11:49 --> 01:11:49

away?

01:11:51 --> 01:11:53

Remember, intellect choice suffers.

01:11:54 --> 01:11:55

It says we should

01:11:56 --> 01:11:57

show compassion

01:12:01 --> 01:12:01

show compassion.

01:12:02 --> 01:12:04

We should be merciful. I have the references

01:12:04 --> 01:12:05

here, but

01:12:06 --> 01:12:07

just excuse me. I'm not gonna list them

01:12:07 --> 01:12:09

all running out of time. We should be

01:12:09 --> 01:12:10

forgiving.

01:12:10 --> 01:12:11

Forgive others.

01:12:12 --> 01:12:13

We should be just.

01:12:15 --> 01:12:17

We should protect the weak

01:12:19 --> 01:12:21

and defend the oppressed

01:12:23 --> 01:12:24

Defend the oppressed.

01:12:25 --> 01:12:27

We should be seek knowledge and wisdom.

01:12:30 --> 01:12:31

Knowledge.

01:12:31 --> 01:12:34

Wisdom. Bear with me, ladies and gentlemen. We

01:12:34 --> 01:12:35

should be generous,

01:12:40 --> 01:12:42

truthful, and we should love our or be

01:12:42 --> 01:12:43

peaceful,

01:12:45 --> 01:12:46

And we should love our fellow man.

01:12:48 --> 01:12:48

Love others.

01:12:49 --> 01:12:50

I'll just give you one verse because I

01:12:50 --> 01:12:52

know we're running out of time,

01:12:52 --> 01:12:55

Madam speaker. Truly those who believe and do

01:12:55 --> 01:12:58

good, will the most merciful endow with love.

01:12:59 --> 01:13:00

And to this end, we have made this

01:13:00 --> 01:13:03

scripture easy to understand in your own tongue.

01:13:04 --> 01:13:06

So that you might convey a glad tiding

01:13:06 --> 01:13:08

to the god conscious and warn those given

01:13:08 --> 01:13:09

to contention.

01:13:13 --> 01:13:15

To this end, we have made this easy

01:13:15 --> 01:13:16

to understand

01:13:16 --> 01:13:18

so that we'll learn to love others.

01:13:19 --> 01:13:20

Okay.

01:13:20 --> 01:13:22

That's all I'll say about that.

01:13:22 --> 01:13:23

I would like to say a lot more,

01:13:23 --> 01:13:25

but I don't have time.

01:13:25 --> 01:13:27

Now, what does the Quran tell us about

01:13:27 --> 01:13:29

God? You have to realize, I'm just about

01:13:29 --> 01:13:30

through with the Quran here in my first

01:13:30 --> 01:13:31

time reading it.

01:13:32 --> 01:13:34

And now I was really caught. I searched

01:13:34 --> 01:13:36

my head. What does the Quran tell us

01:13:36 --> 01:13:36

about God?

01:13:37 --> 01:13:39

Tells us nothing could be compared to him.

01:13:40 --> 01:13:43

That he is out anything he's outside anything

01:13:43 --> 01:13:45

that we may compare to.

01:13:46 --> 01:13:49

That our definitions do not encompass him. That

01:13:49 --> 01:13:51

our reason cannot comprehend him.

01:13:52 --> 01:13:54

That he is transcendent and we are finite.

01:13:54 --> 01:13:56

That he is a more he he is

01:13:57 --> 01:13:57

an,

01:13:58 --> 01:14:00

he transcends time and space and we are

01:14:00 --> 01:14:02

bound by it. That he is immortal. We

01:14:02 --> 01:14:05

are mortal. He is uncorporeal. We are corporeal.

01:14:06 --> 01:14:08

That we have no way of comparing ourselves

01:14:08 --> 01:14:09

to him.

01:14:10 --> 01:14:12

Nothing could be compared to him. I thought,

01:14:12 --> 01:14:13

oh my God.

01:14:14 --> 01:14:16

I'm so close and yet so far.

01:14:18 --> 01:14:21

Because I'll never understand the essential link

01:14:21 --> 01:14:24

between us and God, and why these three

01:14:24 --> 01:14:25

things fit into place.

01:14:26 --> 01:14:28

Because the Quran tells us that we will

01:14:28 --> 01:14:29

could never

01:14:30 --> 01:14:31

really quite understand

01:14:32 --> 01:14:33

God,

01:14:34 --> 01:14:36

or at least that's the way I thought.

01:14:36 --> 01:14:38

And so I put down the Quran when

01:14:38 --> 01:14:39

I had finished it.

01:14:40 --> 01:14:41

And much to my dismay,

01:14:42 --> 01:14:43

I was honestly disappointed

01:14:44 --> 01:14:45

because I thought I'm just

01:14:46 --> 01:14:50

the author made a brilliant, brilliant brilliant brilliant

01:14:51 --> 01:14:54

try, but he never quite made it.

01:14:56 --> 01:14:58

And so I was sitting in front of

01:14:58 --> 01:15:00

about 3, 4 weeks later, I was sitting

01:15:00 --> 01:15:02

in Diamond Heights in my apartment watching a

01:15:02 --> 01:15:03

football game, I think it was.

01:15:04 --> 01:15:05

And you know, sometimes these things just slip

01:15:05 --> 01:15:08

into your minds when you least expect them.

01:15:08 --> 01:15:09

And I'm sitting there watching it, and all

01:15:09 --> 01:15:10

of a sudden into my mind

01:15:11 --> 01:15:13

came a thought. And I said, wait a

01:15:13 --> 01:15:13

minute.

01:15:14 --> 01:15:15

The Quran does tell us

01:15:16 --> 01:15:18

so much about God.

01:15:19 --> 01:15:21

Tells us again and again and again, but

01:15:21 --> 01:15:23

somehow I just missed it.

01:15:24 --> 01:15:26

Just skimmed over it every single time.

01:15:27 --> 01:15:30

Because if you turn to almost any page,

01:15:30 --> 01:15:31

if you turn to the beginning of any

01:15:31 --> 01:15:34

surah, you could see time and time again,

01:15:34 --> 01:15:37

essential information about God that I just thought

01:15:37 --> 01:15:39

was sort of a literary device. Something to

01:15:39 --> 01:15:40

make it just sound more beautiful.

01:15:42 --> 01:15:44

Because if you turn to beginning of any

01:15:44 --> 01:15:47

Surah, you'll see the words Bismalay Rahmanir Rahim

01:15:47 --> 01:15:49

in the name of God, the most merciful,

01:15:49 --> 01:15:50

the most compassionate.

01:15:51 --> 01:15:53

If you read almost any passage, long passage,

01:15:53 --> 01:15:55

when you come to end end of it,

01:15:55 --> 01:15:58

it's punctuated by dual attributive statements like, god

01:15:58 --> 01:16:01

is the merciful, the compassionate. God is the

01:16:01 --> 01:16:04

forgiving, the gentle. God is the kind, the

01:16:04 --> 01:16:07

protector. God is the generous, the truthful. God

01:16:07 --> 01:16:09

is, and so forth and so on. There

01:16:09 --> 01:16:12

are tens of thousands of such references in

01:16:12 --> 01:16:13

the statements in the Quran.

01:16:15 --> 01:16:17

What the Quran defines as God's most beautiful

01:16:17 --> 01:16:20

names is attributes of perfection,

01:16:20 --> 01:16:23

repeated again and again and again on almost

01:16:23 --> 01:16:24

every page. And as I sat there,

01:16:25 --> 01:16:26

sitting by the television,

01:16:26 --> 01:16:28

I started to jot them down

01:16:28 --> 01:16:30

in my you know, on my little piece

01:16:30 --> 01:16:31

of notebook there.

01:16:32 --> 01:16:34

Same notebook I used to jot these down

01:16:34 --> 01:16:36

before. And I began to list from my

01:16:36 --> 01:16:38

own mind the attributes of perfection as I

01:16:38 --> 01:16:39

remembered them.

01:16:40 --> 01:16:40

And they were

01:16:41 --> 01:16:43

we should be God is the compassion.

01:16:46 --> 01:16:47

God is the mercy.

01:16:49 --> 01:16:50

God is the forgiving.

01:16:52 --> 01:16:53

That is the judge,

01:16:54 --> 01:16:55

the protector,

01:16:56 --> 01:16:57

the defender

01:16:58 --> 01:17:00

of the oppressed and the weak,

01:17:00 --> 01:17:01

the knowing,

01:17:03 --> 01:17:03

the wise,

01:17:04 --> 01:17:05

the generous,

01:17:06 --> 01:17:08

the kind, the truthful, the loving,

01:17:09 --> 01:17:09

the peaceful,

01:17:11 --> 01:17:13

the source of all peace, the truth,

01:17:14 --> 01:17:16

and so forth and so on.

01:17:17 --> 01:17:19

Every item I had listed

01:17:19 --> 01:17:20

in my list

01:17:21 --> 01:17:23

for the qualities that we human beings are

01:17:23 --> 01:17:24

supposed to develop,

01:17:25 --> 01:17:27

the Quran was telling me had its infinite

01:17:27 --> 01:17:31

source and perfection in Allah, in God.

01:17:33 --> 01:17:34

And then all of a sudden, all the

01:17:34 --> 01:17:36

pieces fell together.

01:17:36 --> 01:17:38

Then I suddenly saw it as I see

01:17:38 --> 01:17:40

most of you probably see as well.

01:17:42 --> 01:17:44

But now I mean, suddenly it all began

01:17:44 --> 01:17:45

to make sense to me.

01:17:46 --> 01:17:48

In what way do I say that?

01:17:49 --> 01:17:49

Well,

01:17:50 --> 01:17:53

it was now obvious why we had to

01:17:53 --> 01:17:55

develop these qualities. It was now it was

01:17:55 --> 01:17:57

now obvious how these things on the floor

01:17:57 --> 01:17:59

here fell into place.

01:18:01 --> 01:18:02

And I'll just say it clearly, We're here

01:18:02 --> 01:18:05

to develop a relationship with God, to become

01:18:05 --> 01:18:07

closer to God. But how can you become

01:18:07 --> 01:18:09

closer to God when he's transcendent and you're

01:18:09 --> 01:18:11

finite, when he's immortal and you're immortal,

01:18:12 --> 01:18:14

when you're in vice versa.

01:18:14 --> 01:18:17

When he's immortal and you're mortal, when he's

01:18:17 --> 01:18:19

unbound fettered by time and space, and you

01:18:19 --> 01:18:21

are, and so forth and so on. How

01:18:21 --> 01:18:23

can you become close to that one?

01:18:24 --> 01:18:26

If I wanna become close to you,

01:18:27 --> 01:18:29

I need to have something to share with

01:18:29 --> 01:18:32

you, something that we have in common. So

01:18:32 --> 01:18:33

for example, if I wanna get come close

01:18:33 --> 01:18:36

to this young man here physically, I'll approach

01:18:36 --> 01:18:38

him because we both have bodies and I

01:18:38 --> 01:18:40

could position my body closer to him. Physical

01:18:40 --> 01:18:43

presence, bodily presence is something we both share.

01:18:44 --> 01:18:46

If I want to become closer to that

01:18:46 --> 01:18:48

gentleman back there, if I want to become

01:18:48 --> 01:18:49

closer to him intellectually,

01:18:49 --> 01:18:51

I'll reason with him so we will have

01:18:51 --> 01:18:53

a convergence of minds.

01:18:53 --> 01:18:55

Because we both possess reason.

01:18:55 --> 01:18:57

If I want to become closer to one

01:18:57 --> 01:18:59

of the my sister's sons, this side, emotionally,

01:19:00 --> 01:19:02

I'll try to appeal to their sentiments because

01:19:02 --> 01:19:04

we both share feelings and similar types of

01:19:04 --> 01:19:06

experiences that generate those

01:19:07 --> 01:19:09

feelings. But how does one become closer to

01:19:09 --> 01:19:10

God?

01:19:10 --> 01:19:12

What do we share with him?

01:19:12 --> 01:19:14

We share with him what exactly what he

01:19:14 --> 01:19:16

gave us. Because the Quran tells us that

01:19:16 --> 01:19:18

when we were came into this life, he

01:19:18 --> 01:19:20

breathes into our spirit

01:19:21 --> 01:19:22

something of his

01:19:23 --> 01:19:24

spirit.

01:19:25 --> 01:19:27

And that we come into this world with

01:19:27 --> 01:19:30

the seed of these very qualities within us.

01:19:30 --> 01:19:33

And we could either kill them, stunt them

01:19:33 --> 01:19:35

as the Quran says, or cause them to

01:19:35 --> 01:19:35

grow.

01:19:36 --> 01:19:39

And when we grow in these, we grow

01:19:39 --> 01:19:41

in our ability not just to experience tremendous

01:19:41 --> 01:19:44

tremendous beauty in life through all this,

01:19:44 --> 01:19:46

but we grow in our ability to receive

01:19:46 --> 01:19:50

and experience the infinite beauty, the infinite peace,

01:19:50 --> 01:19:52

the infinite truth, the infinite compassion, the infinite

01:19:52 --> 01:19:55

mercy, the internet, etcetera, all the way down

01:19:55 --> 01:19:56

list down the list

01:19:56 --> 01:19:59

that only comes from the infinite purse perfect

01:19:59 --> 01:20:00

source of all these.

01:20:01 --> 01:20:03

The more we grow in mercy, the more

01:20:03 --> 01:20:05

we grow in our ability to receive and

01:20:05 --> 01:20:05

experience

01:20:06 --> 01:20:07

in this life

01:20:07 --> 01:20:10

and in the next, to an infinitely greater

01:20:10 --> 01:20:12

degree, the mercy of God. The more we

01:20:12 --> 01:20:14

grow in compassion, the more we grow in

01:20:14 --> 01:20:17

our ability to receive and experience God's compassion

01:20:17 --> 01:20:19

in this life through prayer and through ritual

01:20:19 --> 01:20:22

and through contemplation and through other experience of

01:20:22 --> 01:20:22

others.

01:20:23 --> 01:20:25

And and, of course, infinitely more in the

01:20:25 --> 01:20:28

next life, the compassion of god. The more

01:20:28 --> 01:20:29

we grow in our truthfulness, the more we

01:20:29 --> 01:20:32

grow in our ability to experience god the

01:20:32 --> 01:20:32

truth,

01:20:32 --> 01:20:35

because all truth comes from god.

01:20:35 --> 01:20:37

The more we grow in these things, the

01:20:37 --> 01:20:38

more we grow in our ability to receive

01:20:38 --> 01:20:41

and experience God's attributes of perfection. The more

01:20:41 --> 01:20:43

we grow in our ability to receive and

01:20:43 --> 01:20:44

experience his being.

01:20:46 --> 01:20:49

And that sort of nearness we are growing

01:20:49 --> 01:20:49

to him

01:20:50 --> 01:20:53

is tied to our essential nature and to

01:20:53 --> 01:20:53

his.

01:20:54 --> 01:20:56

It's more than just physical nearness. It's more

01:20:56 --> 01:20:59

than just a convergence of ideas. It's more

01:20:59 --> 01:21:01

than just a convergence of feelings. It's a

01:21:01 --> 01:21:03

convergence of essential beings.

01:21:04 --> 01:21:06

It's the closest type of nearness

01:21:07 --> 01:21:09

tube can feel, tube can experience.

01:21:10 --> 01:21:11

I'll

01:21:11 --> 01:21:13

just give you a quick analogy, because this

01:21:13 --> 01:21:14

helped my children.

01:21:16 --> 01:21:18

Let's pretend I have a cat, a goldfish,

01:21:19 --> 01:21:21

a dog and 3 children.

01:21:22 --> 01:21:23

3 daughters, let's say.

01:21:24 --> 01:21:25

And I do have 3 daughters.

01:21:26 --> 01:21:29

No matter how much of my love, compassion,

01:21:29 --> 01:21:30

forgiveness,

01:21:30 --> 01:21:33

caring, I pour upon that goldfish,

01:21:34 --> 01:21:36

it could only experience it to a tiny

01:21:36 --> 01:21:37

degree.

01:21:37 --> 01:21:39

It might not even really be aware of

01:21:39 --> 01:21:40

it,

01:21:41 --> 01:21:43

because it's a very primitive creature.

01:21:43 --> 01:21:45

But my dog, on the other hand,

01:21:46 --> 01:21:48

when I show it all my kindness, all

01:21:48 --> 01:21:50

my love, all my compassion, all of what

01:21:50 --> 01:21:51

is essentially me,

01:21:52 --> 01:21:53

it could experience it to a much higher

01:21:53 --> 01:21:54

degree than my goldfish.

01:21:55 --> 01:21:58

And through its interaction with me, through its

01:21:58 --> 01:22:01

own trying to give its own self to

01:22:01 --> 01:22:03

me, we could experience a quite wonderful relationship.

01:22:05 --> 01:22:06

But my children,

01:22:07 --> 01:22:09

especially as they grow older and go through

01:22:09 --> 01:22:12

their own experience and their own development, could

01:22:12 --> 01:22:14

receive and experience all the love and the

01:22:14 --> 01:22:16

compassion and the forgiveness and the caring and

01:22:16 --> 01:22:18

the generosity and the protection,

01:22:19 --> 01:22:21

Everything I have to offer, they could experience

01:22:21 --> 01:22:23

my being to a much higher degree than

01:22:23 --> 01:22:24

my dog ever can.

01:22:26 --> 01:22:27

And

01:22:27 --> 01:22:29

we can have a relationship of beauty that

01:22:29 --> 01:22:33

I could never have with my dog. As

01:22:33 --> 01:22:34

much as I love animals,

01:22:35 --> 01:22:37

having had 3 daughters, I know that the

01:22:37 --> 01:22:39

relationship with that you have with 3 beautiful

01:22:39 --> 01:22:41

daughters can never even come close.

01:22:42 --> 01:22:44

The no other relationship could approximate that.

01:22:45 --> 01:22:47

Of course, my relationship with my wife is

01:22:47 --> 01:22:49

also extremely beautiful and she might hear this

01:22:49 --> 01:22:50

today.

01:22:51 --> 01:22:53

And she's a wonderful woman, really. I mean,

01:22:53 --> 01:22:54

she's the source of so much beauty. But

01:22:55 --> 01:22:57

okay. Madam chairman, I am ready.

01:22:59 --> 01:22:59

So that

01:23:00 --> 01:23:02

seems to bring it all together. So now

01:23:04 --> 01:23:05

I thought, wait a minute.

01:23:07 --> 01:23:08

That doesn't explain this.

01:23:10 --> 01:23:13

Why the intellect? Why the choice? Why the

01:23:13 --> 01:23:13

suffering?

01:23:15 --> 01:23:16

I thought,

01:23:16 --> 01:23:18

you almost had me,

01:23:18 --> 01:23:19

this Quran.

01:23:20 --> 01:23:23

You almost duped me. You almost tricked me,

01:23:23 --> 01:23:24

seduced me into accepting

01:23:26 --> 01:23:26

this philosophy.

01:23:27 --> 01:23:28

But

01:23:29 --> 01:23:31

wait a minute. What about intellect choice suffering?

01:23:31 --> 01:23:33

Why do we have to experience these?

01:23:34 --> 01:23:36

Why couldn't you just programmed us to be

01:23:36 --> 01:23:38

merciful, compassionate, forgiving, etcetera?

01:23:39 --> 01:23:40

Why do we have to go through all

01:23:40 --> 01:23:41

this?

01:23:42 --> 01:23:43

And then, of course, the answer came to

01:23:43 --> 01:23:45

me as quickly as I thought of it.

01:23:46 --> 01:23:48

So we are creatures, and we grow, and

01:23:48 --> 01:23:48

we become.

01:23:49 --> 01:23:50

And, yes, and you could make us anything

01:23:50 --> 01:23:52

you want, but

01:23:53 --> 01:23:53

you can't

01:23:54 --> 01:23:56

contain any of those attributes I listed

01:23:57 --> 01:24:00

without these three things. In mathematics, we try,

01:24:00 --> 01:24:02

you know, 3 premises that go into, you

01:24:02 --> 01:24:03

know,

01:24:04 --> 01:24:05

proving a theorem. We try to see if

01:24:05 --> 01:24:07

we can take one of them away, and

01:24:07 --> 01:24:08

and if it's essential.

01:24:08 --> 01:24:10

And all 3 of these are definitely essential.

01:24:11 --> 01:24:12

For example,

01:24:13 --> 01:24:15

you could program a computer never to make

01:24:15 --> 01:24:17

an incorrect statement,

01:24:17 --> 01:24:19

but it doesn't become a truthful computer.

01:24:20 --> 01:24:22

Never heard anybody say to me, Jeff, this

01:24:22 --> 01:24:24

Macintosh is the true most truthful computer I

01:24:24 --> 01:24:25

ever saw. Yeah.

01:24:27 --> 01:24:29

If it's programmed, it's not truth.

01:24:30 --> 01:24:31

You could program a CAT scan to help

01:24:31 --> 01:24:33

the sick, but it doesn't become compassionate.

01:24:34 --> 01:24:36

Never heard a doctor say, Jeff, if you

01:24:36 --> 01:24:38

wanna see a compassionate CAT scan, you come

01:24:38 --> 01:24:39

right over here.

01:24:39 --> 01:24:40

Right?

01:24:41 --> 01:24:43

Because all those things, compassion, forgiveness,

01:24:44 --> 01:24:44

truth,

01:24:46 --> 01:24:46

caring,

01:24:47 --> 01:24:47

love,

01:24:48 --> 01:24:50

all are born out of choice,

01:24:50 --> 01:24:51

suffering,

01:24:52 --> 01:24:53

and reason.

01:24:54 --> 01:24:56

In order to do a compassionate deed, when

01:24:56 --> 01:24:59

we consider reaching out to someone in compassion,

01:24:59 --> 01:25:02

that person first of all, that's inconceivable without

01:25:02 --> 01:25:03

the presence of suffering, an environment where they're

01:25:03 --> 01:25:04

suffering.

01:25:05 --> 01:25:07

And when we decide to help them or

01:25:07 --> 01:25:08

not,

01:25:08 --> 01:25:11

we we reason in our minds, what is

01:25:11 --> 01:25:13

this gonna require of me?

01:25:14 --> 01:25:16

It's gonna require some suffering on my part,

01:25:16 --> 01:25:17

some of my giving of myself.

01:25:19 --> 01:25:22

And without that mental process, it doesn't become

01:25:22 --> 01:25:23

a compassionate deed.

01:25:26 --> 01:25:28

And if it isn't by choice, it's not

01:25:28 --> 01:25:30

a compassionate deed. It's that choice that makes

01:25:30 --> 01:25:31

it compassionate.

01:25:33 --> 01:25:34

Same thing with truth.

01:25:35 --> 01:25:37

Truth is a choice between telling the truth

01:25:37 --> 01:25:39

or not telling the truth.

01:25:40 --> 01:25:42

Oftentimes, we tell it when we're at risk

01:25:42 --> 01:25:44

to our own personal loss.

01:25:44 --> 01:25:46

The more suffering that might come out of

01:25:46 --> 01:25:48

that choice, the greater is the truth behind

01:25:48 --> 01:25:50

it, the greater an act of truthfulness.

01:25:51 --> 01:25:53

And all the time, we have to weigh

01:25:53 --> 01:25:54

the consequences of that choice. If I tell

01:25:54 --> 01:25:56

the truth there, my teacher's gonna give me

01:25:56 --> 01:25:57

an f.

01:25:57 --> 01:25:59

If I don't tell the truth, I might

01:25:59 --> 01:25:59

get

01:26:00 --> 01:26:02

an a. We weigh it in our mind.

01:26:04 --> 01:26:07

Last example, the famous wedding bob. Do you

01:26:07 --> 01:26:08

take this woman to be your wife

01:26:10 --> 01:26:11

in sickness and in health,

01:26:12 --> 01:26:14

for rich or for poor,

01:26:14 --> 01:26:16

until death do you part?

01:26:17 --> 01:26:20

What are they asking us? Do you knowingly

01:26:20 --> 01:26:21

make this choice,

01:26:22 --> 01:26:22

understanding

01:26:23 --> 01:26:25

full well what's at stake here?

01:26:26 --> 01:26:27

That it might involve

01:26:27 --> 01:26:29

richness but poverty,

01:26:29 --> 01:26:33

health or sickness, that suffering's gonna be involved

01:26:34 --> 01:26:35

until death.

01:26:37 --> 01:26:39

Once a young lady told me, you know,

01:26:39 --> 01:26:41

you never really love me because when the

01:26:41 --> 01:26:42

growing got tough,

01:26:42 --> 01:26:45

when things got hard, when we hit rock

01:26:45 --> 01:26:45

bottom,

01:26:45 --> 01:26:47

when my life fell apart, you just got

01:26:47 --> 01:26:48

up and left.

01:26:49 --> 01:26:51

And she was right.

01:26:51 --> 01:26:53

And she understood full well that that's what

01:26:53 --> 01:26:54

love is all about.

01:26:55 --> 01:26:57

It is through giving and suffering All

01:27:01 --> 01:27:02

those

01:27:06 --> 01:27:08

all those three things are essential.

01:27:09 --> 01:27:10

So it's very easy to see

01:27:11 --> 01:27:12

why the Quran

01:27:12 --> 01:27:15

stresses these. For because for in order for

01:27:15 --> 01:27:16

us to grow in these,

01:27:17 --> 01:27:19

I dropped it. We have to have these.

01:27:22 --> 01:27:24

And that's why it's very easy to see,

01:27:24 --> 01:27:26

ladies and gentlemen, why the Quran

01:27:27 --> 01:27:30

30 seconds, madam chairmen. Why the Quran talks

01:27:30 --> 01:27:32

about sin as self destruction? The Quran says

01:27:32 --> 01:27:33

when we sin,

01:27:34 --> 01:27:36

we commit the Arabic word is dzom

01:27:37 --> 01:27:39

or zum, however dialect you have.

01:27:40 --> 01:27:43

Dom against ourselves. We oppress, we destroy ourselves.

01:27:46 --> 01:27:48

Because when we don't grow in these, when

01:27:48 --> 01:27:50

we grow in the very opposite of these,

01:27:50 --> 01:27:53

we are literally destroying ourselves.

01:27:54 --> 01:27:56

When we grow into the things that are

01:27:56 --> 01:27:59

empathetical to these, we are destroying our natures

01:27:59 --> 01:28:02

and will not allow ourselves to receive and

01:28:02 --> 01:28:03

experience the beauty

01:28:03 --> 01:28:05

that could be in store for us that

01:28:05 --> 01:28:07

this life and the next.

01:28:08 --> 01:28:11

It's like coming into this world and developing

01:28:11 --> 01:28:14

in the womb none of the physical things

01:28:14 --> 01:28:16

you need to experience comfort and joy and

01:28:16 --> 01:28:18

peace and happiness on a physical level in

01:28:18 --> 01:28:19

this life.

01:28:20 --> 01:28:21

It's as if you're coming into this life

01:28:21 --> 01:28:24

and you've destroyed yourself physically somehow in the

01:28:24 --> 01:28:25

womb, and you came into it and you

01:28:25 --> 01:28:27

had nothing to protect you from the cold,

01:28:27 --> 01:28:29

from the heat, from the harshness of the

01:28:29 --> 01:28:30

elements,

01:28:30 --> 01:28:32

from germs, from disease.

01:28:32 --> 01:28:35

Nothing to protect you. Nothing to satisfy give

01:28:35 --> 01:28:37

you the ability to satisfy your thirst or

01:28:37 --> 01:28:40

your hunger. Nothing to for you to fear

01:28:40 --> 01:28:42

experience any physical comfort.

01:28:43 --> 01:28:45

This is all that matters as we go

01:28:45 --> 01:28:47

into the next life. If we don't develop

01:28:47 --> 01:28:48

these

01:28:49 --> 01:28:52

through our relationship with God, our very purpose

01:28:52 --> 01:28:53

of our being, then we will experience

01:28:55 --> 01:28:57

terrible suffering in this life, worse than if

01:28:57 --> 01:28:58

we came into this life

01:28:59 --> 01:29:01

in a physical state that didn't avail us

01:29:01 --> 01:29:02

of any of the comfort of this life.

01:29:03 --> 01:29:05

And so it'll be worse than fire.

01:29:06 --> 01:29:08

It'll be worse than endless fire. It'll be

01:29:08 --> 01:29:10

worse than the * the worst * we

01:29:10 --> 01:29:11

could possibly imagine.

01:29:12 --> 01:29:14

So the Quran tells us, you know, that

01:29:14 --> 01:29:16

yes, you know, when it talks about heaven

01:29:16 --> 01:29:19

and *, it's used very powerful symbolic language.

01:29:19 --> 01:29:21

But what essentially is telling us is imagine

01:29:21 --> 01:29:22

the greatest

01:29:23 --> 01:29:26

joy and wonder and peace and serenity you

01:29:26 --> 01:29:26

could ever experience,

01:29:27 --> 01:29:28

and that's what's open to you

01:29:29 --> 01:29:30

on the one end. But on the other

01:29:30 --> 01:29:33

end, imagine the most terrible suffering that you

01:29:33 --> 01:29:36

could possibly bring on yourself, and you could

01:29:36 --> 01:29:38

also do that to yourself as well. It'll

01:29:38 --> 01:29:40

be worse than anything you could have ever

01:29:40 --> 01:29:40

imagined.

01:29:42 --> 01:29:43

And so and it's the Quran tells us

01:29:43 --> 01:29:45

that God says on the day of judgment,

01:29:45 --> 01:29:47

I did not harm you in the least.

01:29:47 --> 01:29:49

You destroyed yourselves.

01:29:52 --> 01:29:54

And it could say that the total objective

01:29:54 --> 01:29:55

truth.

01:29:58 --> 01:29:59

And that's why the Quran well, I think

01:29:59 --> 01:30:01

I'll leave it at that because madam speaker

01:30:01 --> 01:30:02

is about to shoot me.

01:30:03 --> 01:30:04

I still have other things to talk about,

01:30:04 --> 01:30:06

but I wanna find out how that basketball

01:30:06 --> 01:30:06

game is going.

01:30:07 --> 01:30:07

So,

01:30:08 --> 01:30:09

thank you so for month so much for

01:30:09 --> 01:30:11

listening to me for so long, and may

01:30:11 --> 01:30:13

the peace and mercy of Allah be upon

01:30:13 --> 01:30:15

you all. I didn't mean to try to

01:30:15 --> 01:30:17

scare anybody at the end. That wasn't my

01:30:17 --> 01:30:18

goal. I was just trying to make a

01:30:18 --> 01:30:20

point. And may the peace and mercy of

01:30:20 --> 01:30:22

God be upon you all. Thank you so

01:30:22 --> 01:30:23

much. Assalamu Alaikum.

01:30:48 --> 01:30:51

Alright. We'd like to thank doctor Lang for

01:30:51 --> 01:30:52

that very heartfelt,

01:30:53 --> 01:30:53

very

01:30:54 --> 01:30:54

long

01:30:57 --> 01:30:59

presentation. I have a few things to say

01:30:59 --> 01:31:01

before you all leave, so just be patient

01:31:01 --> 01:31:03

with me for a second.

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