This is the third lecture on the series on Usul al-Fiqh highlighting how the Quran and Sunnah are utilized in Fiqh by each of the madhhabs.
Ismail Kamdar – Usul al-Fiqh Part 3: Quran and Sunnah
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The speakers discuss the history and importance of understanding the differences between different positions and positions in the Hades, emphasizing the need for culture dressing up to fit the culture and providing examples of people misunderstandings of the Hades and their position in the community. They stress the importance of following rules and regulations for safety and well-being, emphasizing the need for culture dressing up to fit the culture and providing examples of people misunderstandings of the Hades and their position in the community.
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Salam aleikum wa rahmatullah wa barakato. Okay The Thank you for coming I know this weather is lazy whether
you open up to the guy open for me looked at the weather is like you show the coming to Dhaka
So just a couple of people coming in, I'm sure the others on the way some people messaged me saying they're late because of the widows inshallah more people are coming. Nonetheless, inshallah we have a very, very interesting topic today. So Alhamdulillah wa Salatu was Salam ala rasulillah. We begin by praising Allah and asking Allah to send his peace and blessings upon the final prophet Mohammed bin Abdullah Allahu alayhi wa sallam, all those who follow his way with righteousness until the end of time.
Today inshallah we are going to discuss the first two are the two primary sources of fake of Islamic law, which is the Quran and the Sunnah. And I purposely mentioned sooner not Hades, you understand why when we look at the different mud hubs in the definitions of sadhana, right, so today, we're going to discuss the primary sources of Islamic law. But before we get into that, very briefly a recap of what we covered in the first two weeks, right for those who haven't yet. In the first week, we discuss basic terminology. And we looked at
what are the sources of Islamic law? So just to recap, sic means a person's understanding of Islamic law, different from sherea sherea is what Allah revealed, right? Sharia is what allowed reveal fit is how people understand it, right? So the Sharia is sola. sola is part of the Sharia, where you place your hands do you see the army loudly or quietly? This is, these are different people's understandings of the Sharia. Right? So we said Sharia is the law, which is the understanding of the law, who pseudos fit is how you work out it understanding what's our methodology, and we said that they are four agreed upon sources of Islamic law for things that the main Muslims agree upon. Number
one is the Quran which we are going to discuss very briefly today. Number two is the sooner which we're going to spend the bulk of today discussing, right. Number three, is the consensus of the scholars that each mark that we'll discuss next week, and number four is prs logical deduction based on primary principles extracted from the Quran and Sunnah that we will discuss next week as well. So essentially, we breaking this this topic, the four sources of pig into two lessons. This week, Quran and Sunnah next week is mine chaos. Now I have to make a couple of notes before we get started on Today's the first note is that what we are teaching is based on the traditional understanding of
Islam, right, meaning, I take it for granted that everybody accepts the Quran and Sunnah as sources of Islamic law. And there's nobody was willing to fight about the Sunnah being a source of Islamic or the side? If not, okay, it's fine, but we can discuss it in the q&a segment, right? We open to everybody but understand the perspective I'm coming from, is that something that is a source of Islamic law, right, which is this, which is the position of all the Muslims, right, so we're going to discuss it from that perspective. We will talk about the other perspectives and why I don't agree with them. But this is the perspective we are coming from, that the Quran and the Sunnah are agreed
upon by all the must haves as the primary sources of Islamic law. The second point about today, you're going to focus primarily on this. Why? Because that's where most of it is from. There's very little laws we get from the Quran. Right? Most of it comes from the Sunnah. So that's what we're going to focus on. Another reason we're going to focus on the Sunnah is that it's the most misunderstood of the sources of Islamic law. What do I mean by this? I mean by this number one, there are some people who take it too literally, I didn't take hobbies too literally and the end up misinterpreting the religion. Number two, there are people who reject ideas altogether, taking the
misinterpretation in a different direction, right. Number three, most people are completely unaware of the fact that not every Hadees is true now, meaning not every Hadees needs to be practiced while they are here. This is which are abrogated the pieces which fall into other categories, we will discuss all of that today. Right? So we are going to discuss a lot on the Hadees mainly because it's very misunderstood. And so this is going to be our main focus. So what we're going to do is one slide on Quran 10 slides on Hadees I know it seems disproportionate, but really when you study the books are free to mainly study it. So you need to understand why and how the Hadees is studied.
Okay, one last thing to revise before we get into this week's topic.
And that is last week. What did we cover last week? Who knows?
What last week's topic
Yes, the the history, history of IQ What are must haves? Where did Muslims come from? Why do we have them
Very simply put, this is a natural development, right naturally, when a field comes about people take different positions within that field, right? In fact, you have hubs in everything. You have Muslims in psychology, you have Muslims in government, right? communism and capitalism are hubs, right? In psychology behaviors. And the other ones, they all different math hubs, right. So in any field where people are using their mind, and they're coming up with principles, they're going to get different ways of looking at it. It's the same with different scholars came up with different approaches to fit, right, we said they have four Muslims which are famous, the HANA V, which is
dominant, about 45% of the world is Hyper V. Right? agenda is the sharp V, that's the second largest in the Maliki, that's a bit smaller. And then they are smaller mockups, like the humbly the 3d design, all of these math hubs exists, but they are much smaller in number. So we can see the three large must haves and there are many other smaller must haves, what is a must have, we see they must have simply means a scholarly approach to fit and everybody who follows his approach to take note, I'm not saying that a must have means every opinion that person had. That's not what the must have is it's his approach to fit. How did he go about it? Right. So keep all of that in mind when we talk
about this week's topic in Sharma. So let's get started with this week's topic. Number one, the Quran, everybody who is a Muslim, even those who may have misguided understandings of Islam, or accept the Quran as a source of Islamic law, am I right? Like everybody, there's no dispute and this is one reason why we only spending one slide in the Quran is that it's agreed upon, you literally can't be a Muslim, if you don't accept the Quran as your source of law. It's like It's like, unimaginable that somebody say I'm a Muslim, but I don't believe in the Quran as a source of law, it's like, you know, it just doesn't happen. So that's why we're not going to go too much into it.
The Quran is the primary source of Islamic law. However, we don't get that much love from it, because that's not the purpose of the Quran.
The Quran in general is there to provide guidance. The guidance comes in the form of spirituality, in terms of our beliefs, stories of the prophets that we derive lessons from, and the laws as well. So the laws makeup list in the third of the Quran, in fact, even much less than that, right? The bulk of the Quran is stories of the prophets after that, the or the verses about our beliefs after that the other verses about our manners, our character, our spirituality, you know, density, all of that, after that the other laws of the Quran. So the laws of the Quran are actually a very small part of the Quran. Why? This? If anyone has answered that, why?
Why doesn't the Quran just give us all the laws? So there's no differences of opinion?
circumstances from school professor, right? The circumstances change, right? It's not just that, but that's actually one of the main reasons, but the other reasons as well. So as I said earlier, what do they see? What's the purpose of the Quran?
Why?
guidance, right? In guidance, law is second year. What's the primary area we need guidance,
our beliefs, our beliefs, the bulk of the Quran is our beliefs. Well, Allah about the Prophet sallallahu wasallam, about the day of judgment about gender, about jahannam, about how the world will end about the prophets, about the prophets who came in the past about the people of the past, about the punishment in the grave. All of these things make up the bulk of the Quran, why? When it comes to guidance, what is more important, our beliefs, our laws, our beliefs are more important. If someone doesn't believe in La ilaha illAllah Muhammad Rasulullah they're not going to care whether they supposed to have a job or not. Right beliefs come first. So that's why the Quran focus
primarily on belief. Number two, the loss of 100 tells us in the Quran, he sent the Prophet lollywood salaam to explain and to teach the Quran. And so the details about how to do what the Quran says the details are found were in the Hadees industry, right. So therefore you will not find that much of the Quran focus on
a very interesting subject I like to study I have a lot of books in the in this field. It's called Common Core and the laws of the Quran. These are books of Tafseer that focus only on fake
and now then you see the other books of stuff see like if you have a book of Tafseer like covering everything, it's normally like this big, right like 30 volumes or something like that. The accommo Quran books are normally like two volumes or three volumes. Why? Because only that amount of verses in the Quran actually discuss is only like very few verses that
actually relevant to law, the bulk of it is our aqeedah our beliefs and our spirituality, right?
Very important. There are two types of laws we find in the Quran. The first is explicit in the Arabic word for this is called a. But it is something that is concrete. It is it is explicit, it is clear. It's something where there's no difference of opinion upon it. Right? The Quran says that we should establish for everybody agrees upon what the word Salam means. In other words, there's no two opinions about what sola means in that verse. Right? The Quran says Allah is one of the differences of opinion about what that means. No, it's got a right. So the explicit verses of the Quran make up our Sharia, which is unchangeable and agreed upon, right? Our Sharia is taken from the court he
versus right, but the verses that are also they give implications or they be derived from it's not clear, right? The Arabic word used here is Omni Zani means it's speculative. Meaning it could mean what we saying it could mean something else. This is where differences of opinion and fake come from.
basic example, Allah subhanaw taala says in the Quran, that if a man touches a woman, and he cannot find water, he should make the human touches a woman. What does it mean?
Imam Shafi says if you touch a woman, you will do breaks. Right? So he takes the verse, literally, even humble Malik, they say if you touch a woman with lust, you will do pigs. Right? You know, Abu hanifa he says it's referring to intimate relations, and he's talking about herself not to do so it's one verse, three different understandings. All three understandings are one knee, it's all speculation, meaning each of those imams if you had to ask them, they will see this is my opinion, I could be wrong. Meaning somebody else's interpretation of this verse could be Right, right. So this is where we get implied or derived law in the Quran is called looks at a verse, he says, I think
this verse means this. Allah says in the Quran, that
animals of the ocean are halal for me, right? So those of us who love Muslims are like, hardcore hanafy until he comes to that person right in the end, like I'm going with the Quran. Right? And again, no problem with that from my perspective, but some people would have a problem with that. But the point is, that verse is one it's speculative, right? There's different interpretations of it. Mr. Abu hanifa says, animal to the ocean means fish. Mr. Sharp he says no, it means all the animals of the ocean. So now we have different certification bodies designed to give you the halau sample not always go calamari as you get the sample not right, because this is a matter of speculation. So
understand, each madhab has its own approach to
each must have has its own approach to the Quran, in the sense that some words have taken more literally some take it more from a practical perspective, some look at the Quran through the lens of the Hadees. Other hubs will only allow IDs to come into play if it reaches a certain level. Right? So this variety of approaches here in terms of how do we approach the Quran for right now, let's go to our main topic.
Why do you think as it should not and not Hadees?
Okay, firstly, what's the difference?
So, now is the practice the Hadees is
narration, the word Hadees means narration right? And the ration about what the prophet sallallahu alayhi wasallam said or did or proved off is called the Hadees. That actual thing that he said or did is the Sunnah. So when the Prophet sallallahu alayhi wa sallam said do not eat with your left hand because shade bond eat with your left hand with his left hand that is a Hadees what is the sooner that we derive from the Hadees eat with your eyes? Understand, so the Hadees is what he said the Sunnah is the is the the message we take from it, the practicality of it. Now each month have has a different approach to how we approach the ideas and what we accept from it as to not and
against scenario we don't the Westerner has different meanings. I don't want you to get confused. Sooner in fick means recommended. That's not the meaning we taking you. This is to know
what the student shoe fit me.
Anyone knows what the Sundar mean when we say as soon as the source of the What does it mean? It means everything that the prophet SAW, said or did everything right The sooner as a source of law can be a source from which we say something is compulsory. Meaning you can take the Hadees and derive from that Hadees that something is compulsory from the sooner sources
India has a different meaning. And this is something that people get confused with.
Just like in English words have different meanings in different contexts, right? Like the word fast, you fast in Ramadan, or you run fast. Most people can't do both at the same time. But it's the same word different meanings. But this rule now is the same. So now when you're talking about bid versus two, now we're talking about orthodox Islam versus, you know, innovative practices. So now when you're talking about categories of fit, it means something that's recommended. Right? So now when you're talking about pseudo Vic, it means anything you derived from the Hadees Right, so the Hanafi the honeybees are the strictest when it comes to taking Hadees and elevating it to a source of
Islamic law. And simply put the 100 p ml hub will only accept Hadees is of the highest category of authenticity. And only then will they accept it for making something compulsory or how long they will accept it lower levels for making something recommended or more cruel holiday but not for holiday and there is only Quran and the highest level of Hades. So we need to just stop there to discuss the different levels of Hades.
The scholars of Hades now this is a different field, Hades. Right? The scholars have had his day Generally, the great Hadees is based on the strength of the chain of narrators. To simplify it, we can say this for Greetings, right, it's actually more but to simplify it. Number one is to Hades. So he had this means what does he mean? authentic or true? Right? So he also means true? Yes, it sounds authentic. It's true. So he simply means that when they analyze the chain of the raters, they found that every single person there is a pious person who doesn't like the good memory, you know, he and he met the person he's actually in the reading from, that's called a saya DS. Right? So something
that's true, it's definitely what the prophet SAW Some said, right? Next Level is Hassan. has been means that this little bit of doubt, but we believe it's true. So it's translated as acceptable. It will translate as acceptable. This is this is acceptable. So for example, if somebody narrated the Hadees from his teacher, and we know he's intelligent, we know his pious, we know he's a good Muslim. We know he doesn't lie. But we also know he, he sometimes made mistakes, he had a bad memory. Right? He sometimes makes mistakes. The scholar might not put it all the way through. So he might say, You know what?
It's acceptable, but the possibility is wrong. Level three, though, if the only means week, a year, a lot of people don't understand what's a weak IDs, a lot of people mix up weak and fabricated. What's a weak IDs?
What is
missing generators? What else? One of the generators has a very bad memory. One of the generators wasn't that pious, or one of the reasons we're not sure if he met his teacher or not. Right, though, is actually means we don't know if it's authentic or not. It has the possibility of being authentic, it has the possibility of not being authentic. That's what actually means. We don't know. Right? It's a matter of it could be true, it could not be true. Right? Now, a lot of people don't know that they treat it like it's level four, what's level four? mobu fabricated? Yeah, we know for sure, in the chain of the Raiders, there's an individual who lies, he makes up his thesis. We don't accept
it, nobody accepts moto Hadees. Right. So with all of these levels, and now these levels in other ways, as well, the 100 we must have gone only for the strongest and highest level, especially when it comes to changing the meaning of the Quran, or adding to the meaning of the Quran. And this is why you will find a lot of differences of opinion between the Hanafi madhhab on one side and all the other Muslims on the other side, right.
Let me give two examples of that. Example number one, can a woman get married without her father's permission?
And the females have says yes, the other three might have say no. Why? The other three must have say that the Prophet sallallahu alayhi wasallam said Whoever gets married without the permission of the one he didn't he got his point. Authentic ladies.
Hold on this is authentic, but it's not the highest level of authenticity. It's not acceptable for modifying the Quran. What does the Quran say? Monica says that the Quran says the verse about divorce. Allah says after she died over she can marry whoever else she wants. Mom
looks at us. He says the verse doesn't say her father can marry her off to whoever she wants. She can marry whoever she wants. So she's in charge. Right? So remember Bonnie by saying that the Quran is saying she can get married. A lady says authentic but not that level of authentic is saying that she needs her father's permission to get married. So what the Hanafi mother would say it's recommended.
To have your father's permission, but if a woman gets married without her father's permission, it's still valid. Right? So this is a difference between the Hanafi madhhab and the others based on what the authenticity of the Hadees is authentic but not highest level. Right? So this is why they have a difference of opinion. Their second example, you go for a swim that didn't count and making you do
Hanafi madhhab is yes the other three metab say no. Why, opening Heidi's of Sahih Bukhari actions are judged by the intention authentic, everyone accepted otentik this hadith is only narrated Roma rajala language only narrated through one chain of narrators, so which authentic but again, Mr. mamani is not on the level to modify the meaning of the Quran. What does the Quran say? The Quran says if you wash your face, hands me myself your head and wash your feet, then you can pray. He doesn't mention intention. It doesn't mention, you must have intention. So Mr. mamani first opinion would be intention is recommended. But without your will do is valid. The other thing was absolutely
no. The Hadees is authentic. We call it that.
So I hope I know this gets complicated, but I just hope through this, you understand why this difference of opinion, right? That certain pieces are authentic. But the Hanafi school is not on the level for making something compulsory, or haram. So they use that just for makuu. And for
mcru. And for Musab, right?
The molecules, the molecules have a different understanding of sooner from the other methods. According to the Maliki method, whatever the people of Medina were practicing at the time of Mr. Malik is true, even if it contradicts a single Hadees. Right. So for example, in the Maliki madhab, the methodology of freeing sada leaving the hands by the side, right, all of this degree from where there was a practice of the people of Medina at that time. So why did Mr. Malik say this? Why did Mr. Malik say that he goes through what the people of Medina is doing? And now what are these? Why
are closer to the Prophet that this is a group of 1000s of people who is practicing Muslims are practicing Muslims, whose grandparents were Sahaba. So this is the sooner passed down generation to generation. And the Hadees comes from one person and he thinks somebody else something else, right? So only again, they will only accept the Hadees as if he contradicted the practice of of the people of Medina, if it reached the highest level of authenticity, and I'm making it very simply, but it's actually a whole lot of other terminology to understand this better. I'm not going to get into that that you get into if you actually pursue this in a university level. Shafi masaba is the simplest
approach it the Hadees is authentic, that it might matter. Have you heard that statement of Mr. Shafi? Right? It the diesel authentic that is my motto. That's actually the Sharpie approach. If the Hadith is authentic, Mama Shafi follows it right.
Even humbles approach, even if the Hadees is weak, rather follow that then use my own opinion, this is the mom even humbles approach, right? Mama even humble says even if a hadith is weak, I would rather follow a weak ideas and come up with my own opinion. So now you understand why when it comes to Heidi's we end up with so many different opinions. Look at this, how many different approaches and one more approach is all here is? What does the words not really mean?
I told y'all this last week, what does it mean?
literalist. So what it is all you need to take the Hadees literally. And nowadays we have groups who do this in our country, we have these new groups who take the Hadees literally. And to be completely frank with you the ISIS al Qaeda mentality comes from this. It comes from people who take the Hadees to literally
a lot of what the prophets of Allah Islam said. It said in an exaggerated fashion. It's not meant to be taken literally. Right. So for example, the Prophet sallallahu alayhi wa sallam said that I would burn down the houses of the people who don't come to the masjid for Salah.
Has any Muslim ever taken the Saudis literally. There is no Muslim intelligible going to people's houses without coming to Salah.
They took this as the prophet SAW him talking in an exaggerated way to encourage people to go to the masjid. They they debated on whether it means that going to the machine is wider or sooner. But nobody ever took it literally. Nobody ever took it to mean they must go burn people's houses down. Unfortunately, some people today that's what they will do. They will look at his heart, etc. The Prophet said this. That's what it means, right? It's not as simple as that. And what we're going to get into today is there are so many factors to consider before you take a Hadees and make a ruling on it. That's gonna be the bulk of today's lesson. But before we do that,
are debating whether to do this or not. But I decided we need to discuss the contemporary approaches towards this tonight as well. So these are the five classical approaches. Now let's talk about five contemporary approaches. That anyone remember last week I mentioned the four contemporary approaches to what's fake. Anyone remember those?
homogenous What else?
traditionalist wells, tumo
nonconformance, right.
And the reformers good. So when it comes to this unites the same, but we add one more category, which is new that didn't exist in the past, that's the Quran, just
read the Quran.
The Quran has only popped up in the past 200 years as a group, they were individuals throughout history, but not as a group. It comes from the orientalists, the orientalist about 200 years ago, 300 years ago, they start writing books to try and prove the Hadees are not authentic. And some Muslims read these books and believe it and started following Hadees and then the Quran is movement formed around that. So this is a new approach, they reject this to not only follow Quran,
this approach is very problematic. Because the bulk of it comes from the sooner you really cannot formulate fit without discipline, right? Furthermore, it's going against the benchmark the consensus of the scholars throughout history. So this makes it a problematic approach. Approach number two,
traditionalist or,
to be more Frank, when it comes to Hades, the second approach is to lead by blind following what does this mean? The second approach is, I'll follow my method, but only mentioned Heidi's when it agrees with my mother, otherwise, we're not gonna mention, I see this. A lot of people nowadays have this approach. They don't study studies. They don't teach hobbies, they don't get involved with hobbies, they'll only bring it up. If it agrees with them. I
have noticed that some people will only bring up ideas when he agrees with them. Right? So for example, some men only bring up the Hadees about the rights of the husband. They never mentioned the Heidi's about the responsibilities of the husband. You only bring up ideas when he agrees with him. Many Muslims nowadays take this approach. They only mentioned the Hadees when it supports them, otherwise, they don't want people to know about other ideas that don't support them. Number three, the modernist. What is the modernist approach to Hades?
The modernist approach simply Is it the Hadees doesn't agree with my logic, I reject it. If it agrees with my logic, I will use it. So they take what we call the Sony that didn't take the rationalist approach to Hades, right. So they take the rationalist approach. Number four, the Hadees. Originally I wrote mentioned the original Salafi approach
this approach. So this approach popped up about less than 100 years ago with shakaal Bani Rahim Allah,
where he started the Salafi movement and they approaches. They call it Quran and Hadees. That's the approach. They call it Quran and Sahih, since a very literalist approach to Hadees. And finally, number four, five, this is the approach I take, which is reformist. So what does reformist mean? A former simply means we're going to re analyze the Hadees using the principles of our method, which means we may or may not come to the same conclusions as the founders of the method. But we will engage with the Hadees, we will study it, we will analyze it, we're not just going to just follow it, which means we have the same principles that our founders, but sometimes our conclusions will be
different. Right? So like I myself for the Hanafi school, but many of my conclusions are not happy, in order to not fit in with the traditional hanafy view, because we go back and he analyzed the history, okay, this Hadees at the time of the prophets of Abu hanifa, it was not at the level of needed to make something compulsory or acceptable. But today it is. Today, when we add what the booster turned outwards last week, Mohammed mentioned about how after the time of the Muslims, the books that he will highlight all of that religion. Now we have the books now we can go back to the old and this Hadees really is that level of authentic? So we need to change this opinion. Right? So
I mentioned this with just that, you know, when you meet people, generally anybody you meet fall into one of these five categories, right? Very rare to meet foreigners, but I know a few, some of them are friends of mine.
Say to convince them to come back to the center. But back to the sooner literally, because Quran is rejection, right? But that's a new approach that lead the majority of people fall in this category. majority of people just follow this literally no study of this at all. modernist. This is a minority approach, each problematic. The problem here is each person's rational is different. So each person's understanding of what's logical or not is different. So one person may look at the decency.
This Hadees doesn't make sense to me. I'm not going to accept it. Somebody else looking at these and see, I don't see anything wrong with it. Right? I mean, how do we decide whose rationale is the right one for judging parties? It opens up a whole can of worms. So this approach started with the late Sheikh Mohammed Abdul Rahim, Allah from Egypt. Right. He was essentially the first scholar to take a rationalist approach to Hades, and he rejected many pieces on the basis of it not agreeing with his logic. It was a great scholar, but unfortunately, he was also the, literally the founder of modernism. By the way, the interesting point
was, when I'm doing his students are our shadow reader, who are the first people to refer to themselves as selfies.
Right, is a really interesting point. The first people who call themselves selfies were actually the modernists.
And he was albani, who was studying Rashad Rita's books, who found this term selfie, and took it and gave it to a completely different movement, which is moving number four. So the term Salafi meant something completely different 100 years ago, it was he was he was only invented 100 years ago, and he meant something completely different back then. So right to today, nobody knows what the Salafi is, because every group or the only definition for it. And so I use the term Allah Hadees instead, because it's more clear, right? Because technically, technically, if you go with South Africans understanding of the term Salafi, it's everybody besides the first two groups, right, but all of
these groups have completely different approaches to Hades, you can't put them all into one category, and put one label on them. It's not fair. The problem I have with this approach is that it's too literal. It's they tend to see a Hadees, which they think is authentic. And just take it literally, even if there are other principles of fake, which which explain it better. And unfortunately, a lot of people who went down this path, if you study the history, it was people who went down this path. Many of them ended up founding groups like Al Qaeda and ISIS and all of this because they just went so literalist into the understanding of it, when the prophet SAW said, I was
sent to fight the people until they believe in La La Jolla. It took me literally.
So this approach has its problems as well. That's why I prefer the reformist approach, the pseudo Vic, help us to stay within the boundaries of what is acceptable. Okay. We have a lot to cover, about how to use Hades in fake.
But for now, as everybody would everybody clear up to this point. Now I mentioned about Heidi's you cannot just take the Hadees and make a ruling on it major problem of our time, this problem has led to a lot of deviant movements or wrong understandings and extremism in our time, right?
Why? Because there are so many factors to consider. There are factors to consider. When you find the Hadees there are certain things to keep in mind before you can say I'm following this Hadees you cannot just jump into it. Because the prophets will always somebody said something, there are certain things we have to keep in mind. Number one, obviously, is it authentic? That's the obvious one, right? Is it authentic? Number two, the level of strength of the Hadees. So even amongst authentic Hadees, they are different levels. Right? So they are authentic Hadees that come from only one chain of narrators, the authentic Hadees which come from a dozen chain of narrators, right. Or
there are some authentic IDs within the reader of the Hadees never practice or himself. I mean, one of the Sahaba narrated that the prophet SAW Some said something, but he seems to be doing the opposite. You have to think about it. Why? Why is the scholar scholar, the alum amongst this a hobby, narrating something but doing the opposite? It means he's not understanding it to read it. Or maybe he heard something later that from the prophet SAW something which gave him a different opinion. Right? So there's different levels of Hades in terms of the strength.
Okay, and number three is how did the Sahaba understand it? This is crucial, this is really
where we
can go, you know, we can stop people from falling into the literalism of the affiliate, Hades school of thought or the modernism of the rational school of thought. We simply say, the Sahaba did not understand it in that way. Right? Which means when everyone's coming with different viewpoints, what do you need to number one ask ourselves is, wait a minute, how did the Sahaba understand this? They understand it, we are understanding it. Right. So example today we have some Muslims in our community, who will say that,
you know, the way we are sitting here is wrong.
We need to put on curtain you and put the ladies behind the curtain. You say Oh, don't do this. Do that. Did they do that?
No. They never did that. And only the prophets Lawson's wives yet. But all this Ahava understood there was specific for his wives. There was specific for his wives. The other Sahaba did not do that. Right. There was a famous scholar amongst the W
In Shelby data, and one of the narrations I read, and I can't dispute it or the industry, but nonetheless, it was an authentic book. She was a very beautiful woman. And she was a scholar of Hades. And she was from the who, the daughter of the Sahaba.
And she never used to cover herpes. And Abdullah, even Oman, you should try and convince her to cover fees. And she used to say it's not compulsory, you can't make me do something that's not compulsory, as you continue to teach her these two men without her face covered. Right. And she was from the derby and she was from the righteous Derby. She was one of the most sought after woman of her time for marriage.
She's one of the greatest causes of Hades form of stabbing. So we go back to those first generations. How did they understand the Sahaba the Darby in that bathtub in when you go back to the understanding, we can curb extremism, right? So people come to me they see the prophet SAW Some said, You must fight the disbelievers until they believe in La la la la, it sold on to the Sahaba. And this can be that way. Because the Sahaba when they conquered lands, they left the people who are religious enforce Islam on the people of those lands. I mean, Spain and India were ruled by Muslims for hundreds of years, but the majority of the people in those lands remain non Muslim because
nobody forced Islam upon them, right. So, the Sahaba did not understand it the way you are understanding it. So this is crucial point did the sahaabah understand it in that way. Number four, is the Hadees abrogated means the Hadees abrogated right let me give you an example of a thesis I consider abrogated. The practice of law exam said that, you know, paraphrasing one of the Alex hardy says he basically said a woman should shouldn't visit graveyards, right? There's another Hadith where the Prophet sallallahu Sallam said, I used to prevent you from visiting the graveyards. Now you may visit them to remember that. Furthermore, when the prophet SAW some passed away, did the
female Sahaba visit his grave or not? They did even he's not about the mother. Right? Did they visit the Albuquerque? He did. Right. So based on the understanding of the Sahaba and this other Hadees we can see that first Hadees abrogated is something the prophet SAW something early in his life, and other Hadees abrogates. Now again, there are other opinions as well. But just as an example from my perspective of a Hadees I consider abrogated the purpose loathsome said something earlier. Leading is like he said something different.
abrogation is a whole nother topic to go into literally spend like two, three hours just teaching that subject alone. But just to give you an idea there, Okay, the next point is what the modified by another ID so by the Quran, so the Prophet slowly, some could have said something in a Hadees. But there is another Hadees, where he explains it in more details. Right. So if you only know the first idea, and you don't know the second one, you're going to come to the wrong conclusion.
Finally, and this is the point where a lot of people have a misunderstanding is that he's actually revelation. Right? We said, the sooner is revelation. That doesn't mean every idcc isn't production. Right. I'm going to give you a few examples of that.
So before we get into that, you know, we have this this issue nowadays in our community, and people find the IDs, they assume that everybody has to practice it, everybody has to follow it. But in reality, there are different types of IDs. And scholars have broken them up into different categories I've chosen
what I considered to be the best categorization of IDs from this perspective. And that's the one done by the late Maliki scholar even assured, Rahim Allah so even assured 20th century scholar, also reformers from the Maliki Mata, he wrote this beautiful book on Mikasa Sharia and Muhammad says the Boko Haram is too complicated for me when
I make it easy with the slides. Right? Fascinating books, one of the it literally the book that changed my entire perspective on that's the book of you know, which book changed my whole worldview on its check, even assured repo Kamikaze the Sharia. So in that book, he divides Hades into 12 types, 12 types, we're gonna go through all 12 types now. Meaning when the Prophet sallallahu alayhi wasallam said something, it can fall into one of these 12 categories. Number one being revelation.
For example, when the prophet SAW allow some tells us about the Day of Judgment, he describes gender, he described shahana he talks about Allah subhana wa Taala. He talks about the signs of the last day, he tells us, a lot has commanded this, right? All of this is revelation. Right? When the prophets like some says, Don't eat with your left hand because shame on each with his left hand, how does the progress or some nodus shake on each of these left hand? Revelation? But here's the point. Not everything. The prophets law exam, said and did His revelation. What is the proof for that?
He literally had this is as true for that. And he's number one, the Battle of battle, the Battle of the Prophet sallallahu alayhi wa sallam, he sets his army up in a specific position, one of the Sahaba come to him and listen to the question of this a hobby. It's a hobby asked him this strategy. Is it revelation? Or is it your opinion?
And the practice or somesuch? Is my opinion. In this obviously, I have a better idea that's more Amita said. So the prophets does a lot while he was on listen to that's the hobby and he moved to HMI note, what did this hobby ask him? Is this revelation? Or is this for opinion? We need the Sahaba understood not everything he said is revelation. Number two, when the Prophet salallahu alayhi wasallam moved to Medina, he saw that they were cross pollinating the farms. And he told them, you know, maybe it's better to just leave it to nature or leave it to Allah. So they listened to him and they had a bad year of crop. So he went back to the profits loss, and they complained
about it. And what did he say? He said, I'm here to teach you your religion. As for your worldly sciences, you'll meet no expected me to take your religion from meaning what he said about the crops was not revelation. You're just giving his opinion as a businessman from Makkah. He's not a farmer from Medina, the farmers from Medina understand farming better, right? At least number three.
The profits are low. It's almost once a roasted lizard.
Right? And you refuse to eat it. Holly Diwali this day he asked the Prophet slice up, are you not eating it? Because you don't like it? Or because Allah has
said, No, I just don't like it. I'm not used to eating this. So called Meanwhile, he ate the whole thing himself. Right? Did he go against this winner? No. Why? Because again, he clarified for us this is not revolution. So from these three releases, we understand what not everything the prophet SAW Some said or did His revelation. And so even assurx Rahim Allah He broke it up into 12 types type The second type of fatwa. What's the fourth one?
How these were cooked up under revelation as well, because he's telling us what Allah said, right? So it also falls under revelation. What's the fatwa A lot of people don't understand what's the pattern, we use this word a lot of we don't understand it. A fatwa is a specific ruling for a specific person. So people don't know that. So they read a fatwa on Islam q&a in Saudi Arabia, and they try to implement it in Durban, South Africa, and it doesn't work. I because you have made for a specific person in a specific place. It's not meant for us. Fat was a specific. So the prophets lawyer may have made a specific ruling for a specific person in a specific case, that's not meant to
be applied by everybody in every case. Right? An example I will give in a later slide. I have an entire example on this one.
Number three, in judgment, two people are arguing, they both sit down before the prophets, lawyers alone, and he passes judgment in a certain person's favor. This is not revelation, because in the Heidi's about, as the professor himself said that, he said, I am judging between you and I might judge what should be on the Day of Judgment, you'll be held accountable for it. So that makes it clear that when he's judging between two people each not regulation, right, the judgment he passes in these cases, is not necessarily for us to follow. Rather, we follow his journey of how to come to a judgment. How did he do it? He listened to both sides of the story. He looked at the evidence, he
made a certain person they can be brought into witnesses. That's the stream that that's what we take from it, not the specific conclusion he comes to. Right.
Number four is political. So the prophets law use alum, he made political decision, the example already gave the Battle of butter. Right, he came, he made a political decision there a strategy, that's not revolutionary was just his decision as in terms of politics, right.
Number five is just a recommendation. But again, we sit sometimes the wording of the Hadees is exaggerated. And we end up thinking of it as a command very often has pieces that we think are commands are just recommendations. And Case in point the Heidi's about sitting and drinking.
It's not compulsory to sit and drink. It's simply recommended, but because of the way that this is worded, a lot of people assume it's compulsory. Right? So sometimes the recommendation is given
in the form of a command, right? Like, I mean, we do it all the time. You know, someone walks in, you say, why don't you have a seat? Sit down. Now, if you just say, the future, sheer clue and so say too soon, so sit down, sounds like a command taken out of context, right? But if you were doing the actual please seen him talk to the person, it's okay. He's recommending that he said stuff. Right. The next point is
what we call reconciliation. So two people are arguing and the prophet SAW some tries to reconcile between them. And some and this is not a revelation. The best example of this varied and Xena
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was married to the prophets cousin Zane up and the marriage was not working out. And the prophet SAW them kept recommending that they reconcile. And eventually they divorced. And Allah revealed that he's marrying Xena off to the Prophet sallallahu sallam. So yeah, the Quran is also saying that the Prophet sons recommendation for these two to reconcile wasn't the best course of action is better for them to divorce because their marriage wasn't working out. Right? So the reconciliation here is not revelations, the sooner we take from that, the sooner we take from that is how you deal with people who are having medical problems, sit them down, talk to them, try and reconcile, work things
out. But you don't say that, you know, because he said this. This is the case for every single marriage in the future.
Number seven advice. A man came to the Prophet sallallahu alayhi wa sallam and said give me advice. The Prophet sallallahu alayhi wa sallam told him Don't get angry.
My question to you, does that mean it's haram for any Muslim to get angry ever?
There are plenty of good reasons to get angry at these getting angry for the sake of Allah. When someone insults the Prophet sallallahu sallam, it's good to get angry, right? and express it in a positive way. Please don't do something silly when you're angry. But the anger itself is a good thing. In that case.
his advice to an individual, you know, the scholars of IDC, this individual had a problem with his temper, you often got into trouble and did wrong things when he was angry. So when he asked the Prophet for advice, the prophets advice to him was Don't get angry. Right. So we would say nowadays, if somebody else has similar temperament, we will give them the same advice. But we won't take this as an absolute command. Because the wording of the Hadees lapdog is in command for we only get an option command that it is haram to get angry in any circumstances. No. It's simply advice for the individual and anybody else in a similar situation.
The next category according to even assured is counseling. So any profits while some offer somebody counseling, right without them requesting it. So the difference he mentioned, again, this is very linguistic and technical, it really doesn't make a difference to us. But to the scholars effect, it makes a difference. advice is when somebody asked for advice, and the Prophet gave it counseling is when they did not ask for advice, but the Prophet gave it right. So somebody may be doing business in the proper store, some walks up to them and tells them you should be doing this instead. That is counseling for that individual. It doesn't mean that that type of business is not allowed for any of
us. That person's case, the other thing was better for him.
Okay, next two categories, again, very similar spiritual development or general advice. So the profit loss I'm told one of the Sahaba slipped my mind is Abdullah ibn Omar radi Allahu Allah,
that he must pray to hydrate.
Does that make the 100 compulsory on all of us? Know, that spiritual advice with this individual, because he's on that level now with the next level of advice that you're going to give him is what
they're doing everything else. That command does not become a command for all of us. It's for him, although general advice to the oma. So the prophets law exam, gives general advice with whom I like in the command for give gifts to each other, is giving gifts to each other compulsory? No, it's general advice, even though the Arabic is in the command for admonition. A warning. A warning doesn't necessarily mean it's wrong. It simply means is bad character with bad manners, or its motto. Right? So the prophet SAW Some said, you don't stand and drink. It doesn't necessarily mean it's Haram, it could just mean it's not the best way to do it. Right. And finally, and this is the
point many people don't understand cultural or non instructional, even as we'll call it, simply Heidi's describing how the prophets voice and the Sahaba lived their lives. These are not meant to be sources of our Sharia. So again, this is a major problem in our community that we actually have people in our community who say, and this is in the books I've read in books and herding in lectures locally, our people say it's haram to sit on a chair, we must sit on the floor, because that's how the prophet SAW some sounds.
Right? Have you heard this before?
Right, you must wear a soap, because that's what the prophet SAW someone. Right? You must just like an Arab because that's how the prophets suggest. This is a misunderstanding of which Hadees are instructive and which are these are non instructive. these are these are simply descriptions of how the proper system looked, as long as he did not say you must do it this way. It does not become a command. Right? But he is simply describing how he was because the property was an Arab. Living in Arabia, he dressed just like how the non Muslim Arabs dressed, right? The people of the city when people came to look for the prophets lawyer in Medina, they couldn't recognize him from anybody
else. He didn't wear something special. He wasn't dressed like some what you see now
right?
If you can stand out from everybody else,
look like a normal guy. You know, just like these people, you mean, if he was living in South Africa today, he be just like a normal South African, he wouldn't, he wouldn't stand out in his dressing. And this is why a lot of the scholars of the past said that the sooner is to dress according to the cultural fit people. As long as it fits within the show, you will come to that in two weeks time, and we discuss culture as a source of Islamic law.
So there was a lot that was heavy. I'm gonna give a few examples. But everybody clear up to this point, I tried to as Mahmoud was telling me that this book is too complicated. So I'm going to make it as easy as possible, break it down into 12 points, right. So you can understand now from these slides, why you can't just take this and make your own ruling. Right?
You see here is the same because Sierra is a description of the life of the Prophet. Right. So Sierra is also a source of the sun that just like Hades, it gets more complicated because in the field of history, the scholars were more lacks when it came to be codices, or weak narrations. So a lot of the narrations we will read in Sierra are weak, they are acceptable for Sierra, they're not acceptable for making laws. So we have to look at that as well. Right? Because, again,
maybe we can discuss it in the q&a. When it came to law, and Akira, the scholars were very strict at a decent authentic when it came to everything else, the majority of scholars didn't mind using Vika desus, at least a majority of scholars throughout history.
Okay, let me give you a few examples. Time's almost up. So I'm not gonna be able to go into all the examples in details. But just what I want you to understand from these four examples is that a lot of people have this wrong idea that when they see someone with a different understanding, they immediately jumped to the idea, oh, this person is rejecting the Hadees. No, people just have different understandings of Heidi's Case in point the Hadees of child custody, right? There are three pieces here. One shows the profit loss of giving the child to the Father, another show the profit loss on giving the child to the mother, another hand is the profit loss and tells the child
to choose for himself. Now, traditionally, the majority of Muslims each chose one Hadees. So one was his father's right now, the mother says mother's right, that the mother says his choice when he reaches a certain age, even a shrewd approach is brilliant. I've actually followed his opinion on this. He says, hold on
the profits lesson was working here. You know, as you mentioned earlier, judging between people, he's taking it on a case by case basis. He's not laying down the Sharia. In certain cases, the father is the better period. In certain cases, the mother is a better parent. In some cases, both of them are great parents, you know, I'm saying, so you can't just say that this is what the Sharia says. He says, just like the prophets, or some gave different rulings for different children, our position should be that this is left up to case by case. As each family comes to you fighting over who gets child custody, you deal with each case differently. And your ruling can be different. In
each case, if you come across a family, they're getting a divorce, the father is abusive. If the child to the mother, we come across a family, the mother is abusive, the father is a good guy, give the child to the Father, you come across the family, they're both great people, they just don't get along equal custody, or let the child choose for himself. Right? Or both of them are abusive, give it to the grandparents. There is no set ruling your this is the beauty of this approach. There's no set ruling you, you now take it case by case, right. So this is how you can reconcile between all the pieces and come up with one very dynamic opposition, which is by far to me the most just in the
most fair for these positions. And again, none of these people, none of these scholars reject the Hadees they just have different approaches. Number two, is bother wearing your pants below the ankles. I purposely wore mine below the ankles today for the Saudis. Right.
So again, context, people don't understand the context. In the olden days, how would the Arabs dress the kings, kings will have this long flowing robes and someone carrying it in the back to show off that they're wealthier than everybody else. So the prophet SAW some commenting on this said, Whoever drags the garments below the ankles of arrogance will be in the hellfire.
This Hades, my position is prohibiting arrogance. It's not prohibiting a specific style of dressing and again, different positions. Right. So hanafy position, by the way, is actually difference of opinion in the anatomy of wonders. But in our community, the classical hanafy position and the Salafi position is haram, the prophet himself haram has must be above the ankles. Right. But as I said in the 100 females have this difference of opinion, you know, my Sharpies didn't only be doing it out of arrogance. their knees hurt, all
right. So why is the difference of opinion? Well, there's different versions of the Hadees one lady said whoever drags their pants below the ankles will beat the * while the other ones that will ever judge the pants below their ankles.
Rather than to be to have I but it doesn't make your panty mints and comments, right? I'm just paraphrasing.
Because there's another opinion there as well. So one has these mentioned elements, one doesn't have some umaga, the one that doesn't you see, that's the IDs are the ones just giving an explanation. The other ones, you know, that's not the full IDs, the other ones the full Hadees I Furthermore, Abu Bakar clothes used to be below his ankles. And the purpose was I'm talking Don't worry about it, you're not doing other applicants? Again, different interpretations come about, right. How do you reconcile between these thesis different positions? My point being number one, this issue, you only will find it in the classical books of fake because it didn't consider it important.
It literally I tried to do the research and actually asked some of my teachers about it. Ask them when did this become an issue? And one of them told me maybe about 60 years ago. Right. Now it will be the issue. To be frank, is it too close? Maybe the issue selfies in companies? Right. It's a nobody else before that. No Halloween, no Sharpies, no molecules before that made this an issue. They may say it's Haram, but this is her omega minuses. Not even a minus and like a minor minus and like so minor. If they forgot to mention in the book, he didn't bring it up at all. Now it's the issue where even the Buddha who believed it to be around they never they never, they never really
mentioned it. Right. Now again, we live in a time where some people take the Hadees literally they take their understanding of how these as the absolute understanding and they try to enforce it upon the entire community. Right and that this now leads to fights and you know, every day when I go online, I see fights about this. Literally, the woman spends the whole day on Twitter fighting over whether can should be below the ankles or not when there are so many more important issues affecting the oma right.
And someone's gonna watch this video online in fact about you in the comment section as well.
Next one, is one of my more controversial opinions.
Last time I mentioned this in South Africa going to travel
so traveling without
the proper licensing to ever travel to outer Muharram is not acceptable whichever woman has the context. maka Medina Wait, whoa, what happened if one of the woman of Medina left Medina and during that time, we've been kidnapped by the people of Makkah and the other tribes. So understand the context, right? So majority position woman cannot travel without tomorrow, but the Sharpie, in the Sharpie, Muslim and amongst contemporary scholars, there is another opinion. So about 12 years ago, I attended a class which the sheikh Salman on Oda, may Allah free him from the tyrants, where he was asked about this. And he said, what I'm going to tell you and I was what he said, I've been
following his positions ever since I heard from him. He said that in that time, there was a war. Because there was a war the prophets like Sam said this. After that, if you study the history, if you look at the time of Omar, the time of Huisman onwards, you will find many, many stories of woman traveling from city to city, although he was an army that time over, right, he was the norm in the times out of our history. And he even even said that you won't find it. What am I what are the hollyford saying you can't do it?
Nobody was saying that. So so the position that he took, and even Dr. Yusuf qaradawi takes the same position is that when there is a genuine danger of a woman traveling alone, then this law comes into place? when there isn't a genuine danger, then
you don't worry about it. It's fine to travel without a motto. Right? And again, this controversy pops up again now the only country in the world that was actually enforcing that law. You know, they changed the towers. Well, if you look at Muslim countries, 99% of Muslim countries don't enforce this law.
There was only one country that was enforcing it, but even they now have changed it and everyone's angry about it, but technically the right to change it. Because even a mama shop is a TV group of women are charging for camera together. They don't need a macro. So why should the government stop them from doing that? Right? So again, this is an issue where I believe it's perfectly fine if it's not dangerous, and a lot of people will be angry about it. Okay, you can see I'm getting very controversial my examples. I'm just love the controversial examples.
The Hadith in Sahih al Bukhari were the prophets lie Some said that towards the end of time, there'll be a group of people that will make halal alcohol and fornication the usage of stringed musical instruments,
even has the most of the position decided this week. And so his position was the default position which in Islam, what do they see the default position, things are halaal until proven to be wrong. So he says Hold on, nowadays of the use of qaradawi takes the same position. Majority position, the decision Sahih Bukhari each authentic. So, there are differences of opinion and what exactly it prohibits so some Muslims who say all instruments are prohibited. Some say no, the duck is allowed
Some will say no all percussion instruments are allowed something that is allowable only on eating only on on winnings. So there's all these different positions so you can see there's no one position here. There's literally 10 different opinions or more on this topic right
now everyone's opinion opinion I follow you mumble Casali right and later on evolution from the Ottoman Empire came to the same opinion. So remember ghazali is a Luma. Dean, he says this Hadees is contextual. The progress on some only ever mentioned music in negative terms when talking about fornication and alcohol. So he said, that's the context. So when when music leads to these things, always accompanied by these things, then is a problem. Right? And so in his other book, which, which I read, was the alchemy of happiness. Right? He says there, this is a quotation from alcohol, he said music that brings a person closer to Allah is good. Music that takes a person away from Allah
is haram. And music does neither is just harmless entertainment. You open the alchemy of happiness, you find the statement.
Right? So notice, again, the difference of opinion Firstly, is that it is authentic or not. Now you may be asking, but it's in Sahih Bukhari
is everybody sincerity Bukhari authentic
99.9% 99.9% at the end of the day,
one of the reasons we believe the Quran is a miracle is why there's no mistakes. Why do we consider that a miracle? Because it's humanly impossible. Question Sahih Bukhari compiled by a human being or by Allah, by a human being, so out of the 9000 or 7000 Hadees. In Sahih Bukhari they about 10 or 20, that the owner might have differences of opinion or whether they are authentic or not. Right about 10 or 20. This is one of them.
What's interesting about this hadith in Sahih Bukhari there's no chapter in Sahih Bukhari about music.
Now, his chapter headings are calling to pick. He has pictures, there's no chapter of music. Where do you find this Hades in the chapter prohibiting alcohol without any chain of narrators? This is the thing he doesn't mention the chain of narrators, which is rare for Sahib Ohara. So what some of the scholars see is that when Mr. Mohali does not mention the generators, it's because he's mentioning it, by the way, and he doesn't reach his level of authenticity. It's not authentic According to him, otherwise, he would have mentioned the full chain of the raters. Right. So now this Hadees becomes disputed some all of us each week, some states huson some states so he even
though it's in Sahih Bukhari, there are differences of opinion on each identity. And our next week when we discuss each ma I'm going to go deeper into this topic, because there is a wrong claim of each man on this issue, and I will discuss with him ashokan. He has to say about that next week. With that we come to a conclusion he went a bit longer than expected this week, but we'll open the floor to q&a this now just very briefly, to conclude the Quran and Sunnah are the basis of IQ, although the majority of it comes from the center right? As soon as is necessary, you cannot have people out too soon it is not possible. Right? We have to have the sooner However, people have
different approaches towards the Sunnah some ticket literally some don't some regards it and it says attending other people regarded as weak. Some look at the context something take your take into on the wording, some consistent Hadees abrogated others don't.
And when they have all these different opinions, is it authentic? Is it legislative is authoritative? Is it abrogated? Is it modified by another artist, there's so many things to keep in mind. At the end of the day, my message, my main conclusion I want you to take from this is don't just grab a decent possibly, right? When people trained in pseudo fake to this, what do they do? They look at all the Quranic verses of the topic, all the Hadees on the topic, the opinions of the Sahaba the opinions of the previous scholars, they cross analyze all of this, they discuss it. And if they are good scholars, they will make surah then they ask Allah to guide them to the correct
position before they say anything. Right? It's not just a matter of looking at the Hadees Hadees in vokalia.
Right, you have to understand it from all of these different perspectives. With that we come to a conclusion. I know we covered a lot in one hour today. I know quite a bit of it is on controversial topics. I believe we have to discuss these topics openly. No, I want you to discuss these topics openly 10 years ago, people keep saying it's not time it's not time, it's never going to be time. There's never going to be time to discuss anything. Right? So discuss it whatever happens happens the end of the day, we need to have discussions people need to know other opinions exists. And whoever takes it takes you to whoever wants to make reputation videos of it can do so as well. Or
reputation videos also haraam because the videos
so with that, we come to a conclusion. Yeah. Any questions? We've got 20 minutes for questions.
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They can't really see anything involving the audio 40 they can't make your own opinions. Bowling Alley, right. So he's talking about the issue of a woman not being allowed in the masjid, which is honestly, I think, in this day, and age is only our communities that's left on this issue. Most of the world has moved on from that. Right. In fact, people watching this obviously will be shocked to learn that in South Africa, mosquito, not a woman.
Yeah, and kita. I'm just like a different country, when he comes to pick a different country when it comes to pick a completely different culture, and he comes to pick but you're in Durban, we have this problem. The prophets always said to not prevent a woman from going to the masjid. And our people say we will prevent a woman from going to the masjid. Right. How do we deal with this? As a from a layman's point of view, we can just walk up to the RMC but it says this is not gonna take you seriously. Right? Or in the other point you mentioned, even with the proper circumcision, Ed, everybody must go for Salah even the woman who is menstruating must go and set a
look at how easy everybody must go. Even if you don't have solid muscle go. Right? And so how do you reconcile that with our mind is confusing, it's hard for me to go for each other. You can't reconcile, you can simply say, I respect your opinion. But there are 1000s of them across the world to hold a different opinion based on this video. I'm calling Nicola. Right? And if you don't like what they say, please have a discussion with them. And let us listen to the discussion. Right?
Let's respect their opinion without getting into a fight. Because as you say, they're not going to take you seriously. Let's put it this way. Even if you are arguing they're not gonna take you seriously. Because you know, some people are very settled that day understanding of Hades is the only understanding of this. And it's very hard to have discussions with those kinds of people.
Any other questions?
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Can you see different people doing different things we've had scholars wave in the line is not quite completed, and others carry on.
Again, it comes down to how do you understand the IDC studies telling you to not talk during the exam? Is that recommendation or is it obligation, so you're going to have two different opinions. And even from those who take his recommendation, you're going to have those who are going to follow the recommendation in every situation, and those who don't see what I'm talking about lesbian. So it may not apply to this situation. So it, it simply boils down to different people are going to take the additional topic, you know, from different perspectives. So some people will say it's compulsory, you're not allowed to talk or see anything.
Right, you have to just simply respond to the other others, you know, that's who stop. So if somebody's doing something else, there's no harm to it. Right? So that that really comes down to how they understand the ideas on that issue.
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opinion.
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The chef on the basis of a dream or
whatever, and having never spoken to the wife
recommended the boss. Okay.
Now,
that one part of my question is, what are you doing knowing there's two sides to every story?
My friend said
that and then the nice one in South Africa, the easy one, which people have bought a coffee. And the process is I mean, it's so complicated over some of the things I mentioned before you
what sort of environment Okay, so the two separate questions right?
The first one is about, you know, some passing a ruling patient. And honestly,
there's no basis for that in any fic any matter. You see, the problem we have nowadays is in throughout the Muslim world through the Bank of Israel, right through the in the Muslim countries, when a husband wife have problems, they don't go to their shareholders, they go to the caddy, they go to the judge of the community, he will listen, he has a process that he has to follow. And of course, that he has to always he has to listen to both sides of the story. And then he has to make a decision. Now you're in South Africa, we don't have that system, we should have a system, we should have our own bodies, where people can go to and who have have this system that they are forced to
follow. One of the conditions being is they have to hear both sides of the story before they see anything. And they have to follow a certain process in deriving the causes based a ruling on a dream. Right, it has to follow a certain process. So maybe that can solve it. If we can set up a system like that, again, all the Muslim countries have this. Right. They do have people you go to, to, to sort of these issues who are trained, we have a certain process and they have certain things they have to do.
Our community, it's more like a free for people who are going to say what they want to hear. That's what it comes down to. So somebody knows about five different well, am I personally No, don't you wanted him to tell him? Yes, divorce, he will ask that alimony. Right. So now we set up a process, we set up a system that this is the way to do it. That's probably the only way we can actually solve this. Otherwise, people are just going to be a non Muslim country, people are gonna have a free fall into what they want. The other question that you asked was just again,
the copyright issue, right? calling someone a copyright, very complicated process. The standard position of entrepreneur watermark. Throughout history is we do not make the fear of someone except for very, very few conditions. Right? One of them being if they believe in another prophet. That's like one videos they consensus if you're following another prophet, so like how the Christians we didn't consider as Christian because we follow Prophet Muhammad Allah consider him a false prophet, like that. We wouldn't consider someone falling Rashad Khalifa or Elijah Muhammad or Willa qadiani a Muslim because the following another prophet, right. That's one issue. Beyond that, the very few
issues you can honestly, you know, this, you can see this issue is Cofer or this lack of concern, but you will not make judgment on the individual. This is very important. For most issues, you will not make a judgment on the individual. Because as long as you believe in the five pillars of Islam, the six pillars of humanity, you're not going to make them issue I had with a couple a couple years ago.
And one of our local molana sent out the email saying that the all of the Shia copy, so I sent him a reply saying you cannot say that, you cannot say that. You can see they are wrong. You can see the deviant set, you can see some of the McAfee, you cannot see all of them. Because if you were raised in Iran, in the Iranian family in that environment, you'd be Shia. Right, you would be because that's all you know. So my approach is
I'm against the belief, but as far as the individual is concerned, I don't pronounce any judgment. An individual. Right. Rather, I believe most people have in Altoona, wajima Akita, we call this Azerbaijan, the excuse due to ignorance. That's, that's, that's a principle of our wakita that people are excused because of the ignorance. Right? This was a big issue in Arabia about 300 years ago, when there was a certain scholar whose name I'm not going to mention, because I can travel with another group for this, who was basically making the fear of people and killing them for going to the graves and going to the muscles. So basically, he reached jihad against him for this saying that
their coffee, and all the other orlimar wrote to him saying that you need to make Azerbaijan, these are ignorant people, they don't know what they're doing. You can't call him coffee. Right? So that became the big issue of that time. So that's really what it is today that as a Muslim, when you see somebody else doing something wrong. Number one thing is make excuses for them. They don't know what they're doing. Right? It's only when certain evidences are put against the person, okay, this person with toting the correct understanding of Islam, we presented to him all the evidences he understand all the evidences. But now out of stubbornness, he's doing something that is clear.
Then only we can pronounce COVID on the individual, the person, the Muslims, the pastor is so lacks on this issue of the fear that even the Hawaiian age and the mortality lights never met a few of them. How are each and what does he like to consider Muslim and non Muslim? Even ISIS, right? Ningxia Jacobi posted this in his book, if it is a day we call us coffee, we won't call them coffee. I mean, that makes us dislike them.
The Muslim the wrong 100% wrong, what they're doing, but a Muslim, a lot of laymen who say they can't be Muslim doing this. That's not how it works. You can't see someone can't be Muslim, because you're doing something that's wrong. Right. So we don't make the feel of the Hawaii we don't make the feet of the water, the lights even with the Shia
For the bulk of our history, she has lived in Muslim countries as Muslim in Asia during kicked out of the country did devotees and Muslim citizens right by the Ottomans by the abbasids by the Romanians Yes, few years and yes, Salim the grim wenjun 14. But that's like an exception. It's not the norm. The norm was that there was cheated as Muslim citizens of the of the country. Right? The exception was it once in a while someone came along and did the opposite. Right. So that's, that's that's the point. And the main point there being is we need to revive this practice of alopecia. Excuse someone because of the ignorance. That's something we need to revive.
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Allow me
to wear the garments below the ankles dragging,
showing up? Yeah.
One of the early Muslims said that. So this is probably happening in the third century, I think, or second century, there was one shake, which was below his comments or below his ankles. And one of you should ask him about him, you see, now these people are wearing it above the ankles of elegance with a more pious and everybody else. So I'm obviously has my pillow. And this was like the second century that was already starting
contradiction to the
spirit of the Quran.
This
is a deep question and one that requires a whole lecture on its own. So basically, this is something in the science they call it.
You know, judging the authenticity of IDs based on its content, not only its racial and gender leaders, and the scholars of the past due to this, but very, very strict conditions. There are a few pieces, which have authentic chain of narrators. But some scholars did reject it, because it contradicted either more stronger her thesis or contradicted the Quran. in certain ways. They said, there must be a mistake somewhere in the chain, we just can't figure out what the mistake is that that's that's the way we deal with it. Maybe there's a mistake in this chain, we just didn't realize because there's no way the proper Sam could have said this. Very few. The problem nowadays, when you
open this door is that a lot of the modernists will jump on this and they will just anybody say contradicts their their understanding of the Quran, they can't be authentic, that this can't be authentic. You can't take it to that level, it has to be done through the orlimar. Through this process. I'll give you one example of that. There's some of the scholars said was not authentic, even though its content is even though it's a it's called authentic generators, the Hadees about how you notice long Hadees about the job being on an island. And it's the hub upon the island in the middle of sasada. DC in Sahih Bukhari but the Buddha who considered not authentic why, because there
are so many Hadees that say towards the end of time that child will be born, and he will grow up, and then you will become richer. So you have many Hadees seeing is going to be born and you cannot grow up. And you have one Hadees from one chain of the atrium, saying that he's chained up with an island somewhere in the ocean. Furthermore, we have Google Earth now which islands
it becomes even more contradictory that
that makes it even more complex in our times. And there's even other issues here. The Hadees says that this story was said in the masjid in front of all of Sahaba. But we have only one Sahabi narrating the entire story. Nobody else mentioned it ever. Now the singles that have been mentioned besides one. So even though it's in Sahih Bukhari, they are Lama who have said this Hadees is not authentic, because it contradicts stronger Hadees. And it doesn't make sense. It doesn't make sense from the perspective of the other scholars to reconcile.
In fact, some of the classical scholars constantly time travel, they literally do Sahabi collage notion end up in the future, that's their way of reconciling.
But the fact is, this is something that they did find her thesis and release it and they found that there is no way to reconcile this had used with the Quran, or with a stronger Hadees then they would say that this Hadees is weak. We just don't know where in the channel etc speak but it has to be a witness somewhere. Right? And again, it's a very complex field to get into it's very dangerous to get into without the proper training because that's where modernism come from. It really comes from going into that without the proper training. But hula need to do that they have to look at it from that perspective as well. Any other questions?
is not just a proposal doesn't upset but it's also what the generations that came after him up to the demands for power.
Yeah, that definition doesn't come in any of the books. I know when he made it up or EOD from his teacher, but no classical scholar understands that classically sooner in different meanings in different contexts should not mean something that's recommended in terms of fit in terms of assuming it's what the prophet SAW ism said in the input. Right. That's the sooner this idea that we're everything that came out there, the sooner Will you stop?
Did you stop because like, I asked someone, you know, the topi the prophets have never wanted to pee. Why do you see a torpedo now? He said, No sooner includes what our elders to
include with our elders? Whose elders? Because elders of which country, elders of which society? I mean, how, how many generations of elders?
Yeah, only they will say that, right. But the fact is, that there's no basis for what they are saying.
And there's no way to qualify what they're saying. And Firstly, where'd you get the idea that
Allah says that you should do that the promise of never said you should do that. There's a harbor never said you should. In fact, the Sahaba himself was so dynamic on this issue that when they move from Medina, to Syria, a way of dressing change completely, the way of dressing change completely white, because they move from one culture to another, they start dressing like the Arabs are Muslim, again, suggesting like the Romans of Syria.
Right, they immediately adapted to the stress of the area they moved to that's even more interesting. Yeah, he couldn't recognize the other Sahaba because they were just completely different. How he was accustomed to seeing them. Right. So clearly, they didn't understand that tradition. So when we get
bathroom show with
some senior
senior
disco that we can watch
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that's more honestly.
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dress code.
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Yeah, I think we can conclude we didn't take any questions. So
do you ever make an
offer on
many, many leases? There's many leases like this particularly in the realm of Akita. For example, the hedges for the purpose of them, say the largest since the last third of the night. To answer to us, technically is always the last night somewhere in the world.
So how do you understand that how do we just leave the meaning to Allah?
Right, there is no way to rationalize the Hadees because technically every hour of the day the last night somewhere in the world, so you are continuously descending What does he mean by the classical position is you need the meaning of the of the Hadees to unlock because the purpose of the ideas is to make us wake up with a traditional pause to think about how this allowed us to do anything like that. It's a hadith of encouraging people to pray the 100 other Hadees of trying to understand how Allah is we can't realize beyond our understanding.
Okay, so
yeah, okay, now that it says well
well, there are these has different interpretations throughout history is this there's no agreed upon understanding of what this means.
You know, so yeah, he did. They are. They are many
Hadees doesn't shouldn't be taken literally. Some even said he was referring to a woman of a specific community. Right.
Yeah, you can even see that you can see you know what the prophets have said this. I don't know what he means by this. I'm not going to take it personally. You just leave it as something he said. Because literally there's there's no finger willing to take from that Huggies there's no belief to take from the Huggies. So there's no reason that we have to take the Hardys and, and find a way to put into our lives. We simply say the problem said it, we acknowledge you said it. I don't know what you mean by it. You can say that because it was the Heidi's about fifth and yes, we need to take some wounding from it. But here there is no one was willing to take from the ADC chip, away you go.
He's not willing. It's only some people use it to bash the opposite end over the head, but he's not willing to take from it
or they can leave
There's another issue that
he didn't. Again, that's a whole nother issue to go into
that topic.
The context so you're able to understand
the context. The books of commentary have had the students. So the commentary call the sharp there are commentaries of IDs. So for example, if Sahih Muslim, Mr. Mondavi has a commentary on it, so when you get the Arabic edition of Sahih Muslim, you got English of it as well. Okay. Mashallah. So what this book is happy to have the Hadees regulated by Muslim, and then you'll have your home now, please comment on it. Now, you mentioned the context. You've mentioned the story behind it. You mentioned what led up to it, the other pieces related to it, he mentioned all of that, right. So these are these type of books they call commentaries on hobbies, they do this job, that they will
mention the context and how and that's how we get like most men, most of it symmetrically. I've mentioned the context. This is where the company come from those type of books. And again, just like with the Quran, the context comes primarily from the Sahaba this how old they this happened. And then the Prophet Sam said this. The other hand, he just says what he says, I'll mention what happened before it. So the Sahaba give us the context, right? So as pagans rule, that's what it's called for the Quran reasons for revelation. I think it is called a cannibal. Exactly with us as Babu The
reason for occurrence for the reason of statement Academy the exact Arabic word but it is a similar field for Hadees as it is for Quran when it comes to that, okay, anything else?
Okay.