Ismail Kamdar – Life and Books

Ismail Kamdar
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The speakers discuss the importance of women's roles in Islam, including their responsibilities as mothers and their desire to be strong families and communities. They also talk about the success of the Halal Way book and the reception of its positive reception. The success of Islam is seen in shaping society and changing the perception of non-M-thinkers. The speakers emphasize the importance of living a pleasing life, avoiding greed, power, and instant satisfaction, and networking with others to achieve happiness and a pleasing life. They also mention a conference in Durban and invite listeners to attend.
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Assalamu

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alaikum and welcome to perspective. On the show

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this morning, we have Sheikh Ismail Kamdar to

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talk to us about

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his

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journey into

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the learnings and the teachings of the Islamic

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world. Alhamdulillah.

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He's going to talk about the books he's

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written, 25 or more books on Islam that

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he has written.

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His time at the Open University,

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the International Open University,

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and he'll also talk to us about his

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research work at the Yaqeen

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Institute

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and a book that he has co written

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with

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the renowned,

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Omar

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Suleiman.

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So so much to uncover on the show

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this morning, but we will start off by

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talking

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about

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women's month. It is the 1st August,

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and,

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I think internationally

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very especially here in South Africa,

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we celebrate women and we celebrate amazing women.

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And of course, 9th August is women's day.

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And alhamdulillah, we are aware of the fact

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that this beautiful religion of ours, Islam,

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does see women as equals,

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and we celebrate women

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from an Islamic perspective as well. So let's

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hear what sheikh has to say about women,

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their rights and their place and space

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in society.

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Sheikh Ismail Kamdar, salaamu alaikum to you. Welcome

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to the program and what a pleasure to

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have you on the show this morning.

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Alaykum Salamu Arhamatullahi

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Wa Barakatu.

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Jazakul okay for having me on.

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And of course, I, in my intro, had

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suggested that you touch a little bit on

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the

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issues around

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women in Islam,

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our freedom, our place,

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our equality,

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and just that, despite the western world casting

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aspersions

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on Muslim women in hijab and niqab

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and perhaps suggesting that we are subservient,

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the reality is totally different, is it not?

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Islam

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really reveres women and women's rights as well.

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Alhamdulillah,

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Allah

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created

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us to worship him, and

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he has given men and women different roles

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to play in the household, but this does

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not mean that one is

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superior to the other. Right?

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It's

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the

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the key difference to understanding

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Islam's approach to the western approach is that

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Islam's approach to any topic is grounded in

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the idea that Allah created us.

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Allah knows what's best for us, and we

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need to live a life that is pleasing

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to Allah

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This is the,

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Islamic worldview.

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Right? Everything is about Allah

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And

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when you study Islam and when you study

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the history of Islam,

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it becomes very clear that Allah

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wants good for everybody.

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And Allah

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has given us laws to follow

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that are in our best interests.

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So sometimes these laws may seem

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oppressive to someone from the outside

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because they haven't lived within the Islamic worldview.

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They haven't lived within this understanding

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of of living a life that's pleasing to

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God.

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But when you accept the Islamic

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worldview and the Islamic way of looking at

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things, then

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you realize that the few differences that are

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there for men and women in Islam,

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it's because Allah understands our natures, and he

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wants what's best for us. So

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in Islam, men and women have equal access

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to paradise, equal access to God's revelation.

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Whatever good deeds we do, there's equal reward.

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Whatever sins we do, there's equal sin.

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But there are a few slight differences in

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the laws that we have to follow, and

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these slight differences are based on our nature.

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Our creator knows our biology.

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He created us. And based on that, he

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has given us slight differences to follow. And

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anyone who lived an Islamic lifestyle, though, there's

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absolutely

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nothing oppressive about it. If anything,

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it is freeing to live a life that

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is pleasing to God instead of always trying

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to please society.

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Beautifully expressed. Alhamdulillah.

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I'm going to, tie that in

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with keys to a happy life from Quran

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in Sunnah because that's what we are going

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to talk about. And of course, women have

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an equal and a very special place in

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Islamic society.

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But let me just, for the purposes of

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our audience this morning,

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talk a little bit about you and we

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talk about you being

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alhamdulillah, a graduate of a traditional Aileen program,

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and you also hold

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a BA in Islamic Studies from the Open

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University, International

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Open University.

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But furthermore, we understand that you started,

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your Islamic,

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education at the tender age of 13,

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and you began preaching at the age of

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16.

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And, also, you've written more than 25 books,

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but the first book that you penned

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was at the age of 23.

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Those are amazing

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achievements.

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You truly started embracing Islam at a very,

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very early age. What was the motivating factor

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for you? And I'm imagining you must have

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had you must have

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amazing parents

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to have supported you through all of this.

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So firstly,

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my mother is a very righteous woman who

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raised us upon the deen.

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And

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my father was murdered when I was 8

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years old. So

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I'm the eldest of 4 kids, grew up

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without my father, and,

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I had to mature at a very young

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age because of the test of life. Right?

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Being the eldest male in the house at

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the age of 8,

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it led to

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me having to grow up very quickly. Well,

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I have very strong support structure within the

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extended family.

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My father's father is still my father figure

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right till today. He's still alive, and we're

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still very close.

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And

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I grew up in a family where

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there was always this emphasis on loving Islam,

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practicing Islam,

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worshiping Allah.

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And

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at a young age, my mother encouraged me

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to seek Islamic studies full time.

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She wanted me to

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become a specialist in the area of Islamic

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studies. And so to honor her request at

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the age of 13, I started the Alimiya

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program,

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and I graduated from it at the age

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of 20. And then I did my bachelor's

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degree in Islamic studies as well.

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And,

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yeah, it's definitely my mother's influence that played

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a strong

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role in in me going down this path.

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But, of course, it has to come from

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the inside as well. And and from a

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very young age,

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I love to read. I love history.

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And

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once I actually started

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studying the laws of Islam, the,

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the actual Islamic,

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Lord and

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Sharia,

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I fell in love with the religion, and

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I wanted to study deeper and deeper. And

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today, I continue,

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to study,

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Islam. I started at the age of 13.

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I'm in my late thirties now. I still

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continue to study every day.

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This has been a lifelong journey, and, I'm

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grateful to Allah

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for everything he has blessed me with.

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Subhanallah, and that leads me to the opening

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verse in the holy Quran where Allah subhanallah

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tells us,

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Iqra, read from the,

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from the cradle to the grave. And that

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is

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and should be our purpose to not stop

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learning

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and, of course, to impart all of our

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learnings

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to the people around us, so that we

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become a very strong family, a very strong

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community, and a strong society at large. And

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I can't help but say this, Sheikh,

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that behind every successful man is a woman.

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I'm going to go on about women because

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it is women's month, and you you have

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just confirmed it. Your mother was the driving

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force behind all of your successes.

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Yes.

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That is true. And,

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you know, we're living in a age where

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the importance of motherhood is kind of demoted.

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You know, a lot of

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People feel like, you know, becoming a mother

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is not important or raising children is not

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important, and it's just pure success that's important.

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So I'd just like to remind everyone that

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in Islam, the mother actually has a higher

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status than the father,

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for the sole reason that she does play

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a bigger role in influencing her children. Right?

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Allah has given woman this loving, nurturing nature

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that most men don't have. And so a

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loving heart of of a mother,

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this goes a very long way in shaping

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the next generation.

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Motherhood in Islam is not just important. It's

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sacred. It is the the backbone of society

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that if if if homes have strong, loving,

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righteous mothers,

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then this has a ripple effect in how

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the society functions. So in Islam, we don't

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just honor our mothers, but we consider that

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to be the most important

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position in the in the household, that of

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motherhood.

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Thus, we have that Islamic saying that,

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Jannah

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lies at the feet of your mother. Would

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you like to expand on that very quickly

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before we go to our first ad break?

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Yes. So in Islam,

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because mothers make so much sacrifices

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for their children,

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the children are expected to honor their mothers

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for life and to take care of them

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in their old age and to never do

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anything to hurt their feelings

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or to make them upset. And so in

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Islam, the the the the bond between a

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child and a mother is lifelong.

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I know of of Muslim men in their

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sixties seventies who still look after their mothers,

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who still have that close bond with their

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mothers because this this is what Islam teaches

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you. That if you want to get to

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paradise,

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one of the quickest routes to get there

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is to take care of your parents in

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old age, especially your mother. And so,

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this is the the high status of a

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mother in Islam

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that she is the pathway to Jannah. Loving

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her, respecting her, obeying her, honoring her, taking

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care of her in old age, all of

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this is part of the ways to Jannah,

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and this is just part of the high

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status that Allah

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has given to women in our society.

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Alhamdulillah and that once again,

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underscores the importance and the equality

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and the high status that we as women

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and mothers hold in Islamic society. Let's go

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for our first break. We'll continue this fascinating

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discussion with Sheikh Ismail Kamdar.

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Miss Mila Rahm Al Rahim, welcome back to

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the program. This is a perspective with me,

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Julie Ali, and my guest

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is Sheikh Ismail Kamdar.

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We've just paid tribute to women. It is

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women's month, and very especially, we have accoladed

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mothers,

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mothers in society,

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in families,

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in communities and how they keep families together.

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Bless all the mothers all around the world.

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Back to you Ismail Kamdar, Sheikh Ismail Kamdar,

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and let's now talk about the first book

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you wrote. At the age, the tender age

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of 23,

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what was the book all about and how

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did the community and family

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respond to your first book?

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So

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the first book I wrote is called having

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fun the Halal Way, entertainment in Islam.

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And the book was about

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what types of fun and entertainment are halal,

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and how do you enjoy halal recreation. And

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the reason I wrote this is,

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this is, like, 20 years ago almost.

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There was this very staunch understanding

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of Islam that, you know, you're only supposed

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to be doing Ibadat all day long and,

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you know, people will kind of be shamed

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for having hobbies or having pastimes or trying

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to relax. And as I studied the tradition,

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I realized that this isn't what Islam teaches.

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So even Rasulullah sallallahu alaihi wa sallam

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advised the Sahaba that it's fine for them

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to relax with their families. It's fine for

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them to do things for fun. They don't

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have to be 247,

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you know, trying to only do good deeds.

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So this book was written

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as a response to the mindset that was

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common at the time,

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that Muslims shouldn't have fun and that life

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should just be about strictness all the time.

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And as for how it was received, it

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wasn't published in South Africa. It was actually

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published in Saudi Arabia,

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and distributed internationally.

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And internationally, it was received very well.

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Right to today, people message me to say

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that they read the book and it made

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a difference in their life, and it cleared

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up a lot of misconceptions

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that they had about this topic.

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Locally,

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I don't think it really

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was that popular locally.

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This kind of, a thing with my books,

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they're more popular around the world than they

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are in South Africa. That's just God Allah,

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Allah's Destiny.

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But that book specifically, because it was published

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in Saudi Arabia,

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I don't think it really reached that much

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bookshops in South Africa.

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So I don't really know what the local

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reaction to it was like.

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What's your sense regarding

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these different receptions to your book? You've just

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indicated

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that,

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and we know it's on record that you've

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written more than 25 books on Islam, and

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they're very many different topics. And inshallah,

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we will unpack that a little later on

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in the show.

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But what is your sense of why

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Islamic books in general and your books

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haven't been well received in South Africa?

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Well,

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that gets a bit controversial.

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I think

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that, generally, in South Africa, we have a

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bit more of a sectarian

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mindset. Right? People tend to be

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divided into little groups, and they don't read

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outside of their group, and they view anyone

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outside of their group as a deviant

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or someone that they shouldn't take knowledge from.

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And one of the things that was very

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important to me in my journey of Islam

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is that I

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wanted to study broadly across many schools of

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thought. So even after completing the ALIM program

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locally,

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I did the bachelor's degree in Islamic studies

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so I could study from a different perspective.

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It was essentially the same subjects, but with

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a different group of teachers with different opinions.

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And,

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this opened me up to the,

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idea that there are many different

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interpretations of Islam within mainstream Sunni Islam, and

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we need to be a bit more tolerant

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and open minded about these differences of opinion.

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But because of that, some of the opinions

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that I now hold,

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which may be mainstream in other countries, they

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they can be a bit controversial for our

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community.

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And that's why I don't think,

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I I think people who have more of

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a sectarian mindset,

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they are wary of anything written by someone

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who doesn't fit their box of what a

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perfect Muslim should be.

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Yeah. Sadly, that does seem to be prevalent,

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not,

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only locally, but in other parts of the

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world as well. But,

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I'm more than certain that, you know, your

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niyat

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is important.

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You're doing you've written these books, and you

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go out and touch lives in a positive

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way because you are wanting to make a

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meaningful difference.

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I accept all of your efforts, inshallah,

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and really very pleased to hear that your

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books are doing well internationally.

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Inshallah there will come a time in South

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Africa where people will be clamoring to get

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your different books and I'm I have no

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doubt in my mind they are available in

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local bookstores. It's a matter of people going

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out and purchasing them.

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Let's talk about your time,

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at the International Open University. I do understand

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that you served as a faculty manager.

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How did that come about, and what was

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your role there? And in terms of Islam,

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did you manage

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to,

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you know, do Dawah

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through your role at the International Open University?

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So the International Open University

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is an Islamic university.

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Right? So the the students are Muslims and

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they are studying is,

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they're either studying Islam or they're studying other

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degrees from an Islam perspective. So it has,

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degrees in psychology and economics and variety of

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other subjects, but it's all taught from an

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Islamic perspective.

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I joined them initially as a volunteer,

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and

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I then did my degree with them. I

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got my bachelor's, with them, and then I

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became

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a a a tutor there. And from a

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tutor, I became the head tutor, and eventually,

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I became the faculty manager. So altogether, I

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was with that university for a decade,

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from 2010

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all the way to 2,000 and,

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20.

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Right? I was with them for

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a long time.

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And

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it was during that period that I think

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my works reach the

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most people

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around the world,

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because,

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through the International Open University, I was teaching

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on average

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about a 1000 people from all over the

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world through their online classes.

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And my role there was on one hand,

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I was a university teacher teaching history

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and Islamic law,

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and,

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interpretations of the Quran.

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But I also was the manager of the

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faculty, which means I had to ensure that

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we hired the right teachers and everybody did

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their job.

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And, yeah, I served in that role for

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a decade.

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Eventually, I got the offer from Yaqeen Institute,

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and that's when I decided it was time

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to try something new.

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SubhanAllah,

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you also have introduced,

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something called self help self help in the

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year 2014.

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Is it still running,

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and what is it all about?

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Yeah. So

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in 2014,

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I I used to read a lot of

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self help books at the time.

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And

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I had gained a reputation for my time

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management and self confidence and productivity.

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A lot of people were asking me for

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advice in this area. They were asking me,

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to write something on this topic from an

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Islamic perspective.

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And so I started a blog, a website

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called islamic self help dot com.

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I launched it with 2 ebooks,

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one on time management, one on self confidence.

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And now a decade later, the the blog

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is still going strong.

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The ebooks have been downloaded thousands of times.

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The online courses there

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have on average 100 to 200 students. One

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course actually has almost 2,000 students at the

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moment.

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The the the purpose

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of the website

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is to help Muslims

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achieve their maximum potential

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while remaining grounded in the tradition.

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Meaning, I want Muslims to

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excel in whatever field they are in, to

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be the best in the world at what

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they do while remaining

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strongly religious Muslims. Right? There was this idea

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a few decades back that you have, like,

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Muslims who are experts in in science and

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medicine

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and

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law and and all the modern fields, but

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they would be secular.

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And then the religious Muslims would not be

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succeeding in in this world. And that's not

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what our religion teaches. Our religion teaches we

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can succeed in both. We can be successful

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in in in this in worldly sciences and

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worldly affairs while being religious

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and righteous and connected to our creator. And

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that's really what the books and the courses

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and the blogs at this at this website

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are all about.

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They are about connecting with Allah,

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having the right mindset, having the right beliefs,

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but also about pursuing excellence in everything we

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do, whether it's our families, whether it's our

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careers, whether it's serving our communities to be

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the best at what we do so that

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we can do this for the sake of

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Allah, and we can make this world a

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better place.

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When we come back, we do need to

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go for our next ad break. I want

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to talk about, obviously, keys to a happy

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life from Quran and Sunnah. And then I

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also want your views on,

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this whole trend, this rising,

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trend of Islamophobia

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all around the world. What is it that

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we as Muslims

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should be doing

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for western people and other people to understand

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that Islam is a pure and a perfect

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religion,

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and the

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that non Muslims shouldn't view Muslim people and

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Islam

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as a threat to them. So all of

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that and more coming up with Sheikh Ismail

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Kamdar

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right after this ad break.

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Welcome back. My esteemed guest is Sheikh Ismail

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Kamdar.

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He has authored over 25 books. He also

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runs

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a self help website

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and a blog.

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And he co authored a book

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with none other than world renowned,

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Omar

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Suleyman.

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So we will talk about that in a

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little while, but let's talk about the all

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important

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matter, and that is the rise of Islamophobia

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all around the world,

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and what we as responsible

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Muslims should be doing

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to try and change that perception,

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amongst non Muslim audiences. Welcome back, Sheikh. Your

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thoughts on Islamophobia?

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So

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I have a slightly different perspective

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on Islamophobia.

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Right?

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And this is the perspective

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that, Sheikh Abdul Hakim Murad speaks about in

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his book, traveling home.

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And

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that perspective

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is that

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to some extent,

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it's natural and it's going to happen.

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And what I mean by this is that

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when you read the stories of the Quran

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and the stories of the prophets,

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there were always people in every era

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who hated Islam,

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who feared Islam, who saw Islam as a

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threat to their lifestyle and their worldview.

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This kind of person exists in every time

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and place. It's just in our times, we've

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given it a label, Islamophobia.

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So to some extent,

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I understand the existence of Islamophobia

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because

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Islam does threaten the worldview of many people.

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People who want who want us to live

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a godless lifestyle

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will be threatened by the idea of people

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who still believe in God and fear God

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and try to please God. It threatens their

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lifestyle. People who want to promote immodesty and

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immorality

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are threatened by people who still cling to

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the modesty and morality of of divine revelation.

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So there is a a clash here that's

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inevitable.

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Right? But it doesn't have to be everybody.

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It they they needs to be from our

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end a way a

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a way of reaching out to people

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and explaining to them why Islam

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solves many of the problems of humanity today.

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You see, people have been sold a

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a false picture over the past 100 years.

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They've been pushed this idea of of progress,

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of liberalism, of of modernism.

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This idea that the world's a better place

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today than it was in the past. This

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idea that we are more evolved, we are

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more civilized than the people of the past.

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And I believe that this is a false

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narrative.

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I believe that the world was a better

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place, during the time of Roshullah, Salay Samet,

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and the Sahaba.

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The world is a better place under the

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Ottoman Empire.

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It was a better place under the Abbasid

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Empire. It's just that people are ignorant of

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what life was like at that time,

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and they assume that it's better today. We've

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actually done a lot of damage to the

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world in the past 100 years. Morally,

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even in terms of

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pollution, even in terms of destroying the environment,

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in terms of wars, in terms of creating

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weapons of mass destruction,

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modernity has created

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a lot of problems.

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So a lot of people are blinded from

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this. They assume that modernity is all good

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and religion

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is is the enemy.

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I think what we need to do is

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we need to

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switch our marketing up. We have to start

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showing people that, listen,

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what we've been what humans have been doing

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for the past 100 years

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has created a lot of problems.

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Islam, which is the natural way of life

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in tune with both human nature and divine

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revelation,

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solves these problems.

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Whatever these problems may be, whether it's moral

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problems, whether it's the family problems, whether it's

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dealing with with with the natural environment.

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In all of these areas, Islam solves the

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problems of humanity.

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So we need to start

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selling Islam as a solution

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to the problems that the world has today.

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And in this way, inshallah, we'll win more

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people over. However, I don't believe it's possible

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to win everybody over because it is it

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is Allah's father. It is the destiny of

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the of this world that there will always

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be forces working against Islam, and this has

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been there in every era from the beginning

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of time.

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And there's no doubt that we face very

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many challenges as a Muslim society

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in this day and age, and everything you've

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touched on is absolutely spot on.

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There's so much of evil

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and misdirection in the world that our youth

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are very, very,

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easily succumb

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to all of those

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evils of modern society.

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But be that as it may, this leads

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me into my next question. It's a very,

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I think natural

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lead up to talk about

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keys to a happy life

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through Quran and Sunnah.

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What can you tell us about how we

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can achieve this?

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So this is my latest book, 25 Keys

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to a Happy Life. We actually have the

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book launch this week.

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And

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I wrote it about a year ago in

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Ramadan, so that's last year's Ramadan.

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I was at a point in my life

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where I was a bit

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sad and depressed about many of the trials

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of life, And I wrote I wrote this

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to myself. A lot of my best books

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with, notes that I wrote to myself,

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to increase my own spirituality or to reconnect

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me with Allah

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or to cheer myself up.

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And

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this book essentially,

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the the premise of the book is that

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the modern world is built around the pursuit

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of happiness.

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Right? This is what the modern world's all

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about, the pursuit of happiness.

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Why are people chasing money? Why are people

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chasing pain? Why are people committing?

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Why are people chasing alternative lifestyles?

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It's all the pursuit of happiness.

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But I argue

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that

00:29:07 --> 00:29:09

this modern lifestyle has created more unhappiness.

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We have more depressed people in the world

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today than at any other point in history.

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We have more suicidal people in the world

00:29:17 --> 00:29:19

today than at any other point in history.

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We have more lonely people in the world

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today than at any other point in history.

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So I argue that the parts that people

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have chosen

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to seek happiness are the wrong parts.

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And the right way to seek happiness is

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to go back to what is natural.

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What made humans happy for the bulk of

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human history?

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And I summarized it in the book into

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25 points. Initially, it was going to be

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50, but I felt that would be a

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bit overwhelming.

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So I summarized it into 25 points, but

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those 25 points can be further summarized into

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5 points.

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Right? Five things

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that we need to be happy.

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Number 1 is a connection with our creator.

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That we have a life that revolves around

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worshiping the creator, loving the creator, trying to

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please the creator. This is the key to

00:30:08 --> 00:30:10

happiness. This is the ultimate key to happiness.

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The Quran says it is only in the

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remembrance of God that hearts find true happiness,

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true inner peace. Right? So number 1 is

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the creator.

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Number 2 is family.

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Family is crucial.

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And we are living in the age of

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hyperindividualism

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where people don't want to get married. They

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don't want to have children. Life's just become

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about me, me, me. It's all about myself.

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It's all about my wants, my desires.

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And

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people didn't wonder why am I lonely.

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Because God didn't create you to be alone.

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He created you to be a mother or

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a father, to be a husband or a

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wife, to have family.

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Family is crucial to happiness.

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It's very important that we strive

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to have families and and to have loving

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families because that's really where a lot of

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our happiness comes from. The Quran

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mentions family as a source of sakinah,

00:31:02 --> 00:31:04

a source of inner peace, a source of

00:31:04 --> 00:31:05

happiness.

00:31:05 --> 00:31:07

The third thing I mentioned is community. And,

00:31:07 --> 00:31:09

again, it goes back to individualism.

00:31:10 --> 00:31:12

Because people are so self obsessed,

00:31:12 --> 00:31:14

we are losing our sense of community.

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People's lives have just become about themselves. They

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don't want to volunteer anymore. They don't want

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to,

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serve the community. They don't want to help

00:31:22 --> 00:31:24

their neighbors. Everyone has come to themselves. It's

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become all about what do I get out

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of it. This is the mindset people have

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today. And I say we need to let

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go of that mindset. We should be

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serving our community, helping our community, being part

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of our community for the sake of Allah

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for the sake of uplifting others. And in

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that, you will find true and genuine happiness.

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And it's interesting that even modern psych psychiatrist,

00:31:47 --> 00:31:48

in diagnosing depression,

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one of the,

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solutions that they propose is to do community

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service.

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Right? Because they they said that serving people

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makes you happy.

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But I think it's selfish to do it

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just to make yourself happy. You should be

00:32:01 --> 00:32:03

serving people because you love your community and

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you want to be a part of it.

00:32:05 --> 00:32:07

The 4th thing that that I mentioned that

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makes up a bulk of this book is

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your character,

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your. Just being a good person.

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If you want to be happy, be a

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good person. Be honest, be truthful, be brave,

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be selfless,

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be caring, be loving,

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be a good person, And you will attract

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goodness into your life. You will,

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have better relationships. You will have a better

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standing in your community.

00:32:30 --> 00:32:32

You will be happier if you are a

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good person

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to if you are betraying people, if you

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are lying to people, if you are mistreating

00:32:37 --> 00:32:38

people,

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then that will come back to haunt haunt

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you. That will come back to hurt you.

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And the 5th and final thing that makes

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up a large portion of this book

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is the importance of living a purposeful life.

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That we don't just live for ourselves.

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We don't

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just, look for entertainment. We don't just, you

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know, we have this modern lifestyle of you

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go to school, you go to university,

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you work, you retire, you die.

00:33:03 --> 00:33:05

It's not purposeful life. It's a very shallow

00:33:05 --> 00:33:06

life.

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I invite people to live a more purposeful

00:33:09 --> 00:33:11

life. A life that is pleasing to God,

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but a life that leaves an impact on

00:33:14 --> 00:33:15

others. A life that that

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will continue to be a source of reward

00:33:18 --> 00:33:20

for you after you pass away because you

00:33:20 --> 00:33:23

brought so much goodness to this world. And

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so, really, this is what the book is

00:33:24 --> 00:33:27

is teaching people that we are searching for

00:33:27 --> 00:33:30

happiness in the wrong place. Happiness doesn't come

00:33:30 --> 00:33:34

from pursuing our desires, pursuing fame, pursuing wealth.

00:33:34 --> 00:33:35

Happiness comes from godliness.

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It comes from family. It comes from community.

00:33:39 --> 00:33:41

It comes from good character, and it comes

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from living a purposeful life, and I expand

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upon this in these 25 chapters in this

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book.

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SubhanAllah, you've hit the nail on the head

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because, yes,

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we have reached that point in our lives

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where we all are so

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private and want to

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guard our individuality.

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We don't want to intermingle with family and

00:34:01 --> 00:34:01

relatives.

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Just go to a wedding these days. They're

00:34:05 --> 00:34:06

small. They're very contained.

00:34:07 --> 00:34:09

But, of course, they want to keep up

00:34:09 --> 00:34:11

with the Joneses, so they have an absolutely

00:34:11 --> 00:34:14

high class wedding, and invite only people in

00:34:14 --> 00:34:17

their own inner circle who probably

00:34:18 --> 00:34:21

have the similar lifestyle to them.

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And it's also about, I think,

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greed, power,

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instant gratification.

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And here comes in the famous African proverb,

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it takes a village to raise a child.

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We've lost that.

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And in and in that,

00:34:41 --> 00:34:44

losing that very important element in our everyday

00:34:44 --> 00:34:46

lives, we're losing a lot of our youth

00:34:46 --> 00:34:48

as well. We're losing our connections and we're

00:34:48 --> 00:34:49

losing our identity.

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But we've got to go for our next,

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ad break. When we come back, we'll expand

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a little more on that with our guest,

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Sheikh Ismail Kamdar.

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My guest is Sheikh,

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Ismail Kamdar. He's authored over 25 books,

00:35:23 --> 00:35:26

and one of his books has been coauthored,

00:35:27 --> 00:35:30

with Sheikh Omar Suleiman.

00:35:30 --> 00:35:33

But before we get to that and wish

00:35:33 --> 00:35:35

of all of the books that he's written

00:35:35 --> 00:35:37

is closest to his heart, let's,

00:35:38 --> 00:35:39

get him to comment on,

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my statement just before the ad break. Welcome

00:35:42 --> 00:35:43

back, Sheikh.

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The comment or summarize it for me?

00:35:50 --> 00:35:53

The instant age, how we are driven by

00:35:53 --> 00:35:54

greed, by power,

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by

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importance,

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and being someone in society,

00:36:00 --> 00:36:03

by running and chasing after money, and forgetting

00:36:04 --> 00:36:04

the finer

00:36:05 --> 00:36:07

and the little things in life that does

00:36:07 --> 00:36:08

make a difference,

00:36:08 --> 00:36:09

and the fact

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that we've lost the concept of the village

00:36:14 --> 00:36:17

raising a child. It's not your business. Keep

00:36:17 --> 00:36:19

out of my business. You have no right

00:36:19 --> 00:36:20

to judge me or my family.

00:36:21 --> 00:36:23

I will raise my family as I see

00:36:23 --> 00:36:25

fit, and that's where we've lost the concept

00:36:25 --> 00:36:28

of it takes a village to raise a

00:36:28 --> 00:36:28

child.

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I completely agree with you on this. This

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is something I actually speak about quite often.

00:36:34 --> 00:36:35

You know, a lot of,

00:36:36 --> 00:36:38

young ladies today, they complain that motherhood is

00:36:38 --> 00:36:39

difficult.

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And I say that we've made motherhood difficult

00:36:42 --> 00:36:44

because in the past,

00:36:44 --> 00:36:46

it's not just the mother that's raising the

00:36:46 --> 00:36:47

child. It's the grandparents,

00:36:48 --> 00:36:51

the aunt, all the siblings, the neighbors. Everybody's

00:36:51 --> 00:36:51

involved.

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That's how motherhood was for the bulk of

00:36:54 --> 00:36:57

history. But today, because we become so isolated,

00:36:57 --> 00:36:58

because we become,

00:36:58 --> 00:36:59

so cut off

00:37:00 --> 00:37:01

and we cut people off,

00:37:01 --> 00:37:03

we begin to feel overwhelmed.

00:37:04 --> 00:37:06

And if you just let people in, if

00:37:06 --> 00:37:09

we if we just start working together again,

00:37:09 --> 00:37:10

if we just form,

00:37:11 --> 00:37:12

the the village again,

00:37:12 --> 00:37:14

it takes a lot of pressure off the

00:37:14 --> 00:37:16

mother because she doesn't have to do everything.

00:37:16 --> 00:37:18

Right? There's a lot of people involved in

00:37:18 --> 00:37:21

raising peep and shaping people's personalities. You know?

00:37:21 --> 00:37:22

I look at how I was raised. You

00:37:22 --> 00:37:24

know, I always mention that even though my

00:37:24 --> 00:37:25

father,

00:37:26 --> 00:37:28

was taken, at a very young age, I

00:37:28 --> 00:37:30

grew up with many father figures. I grew

00:37:30 --> 00:37:32

up with my grandfathers. I grew up with

00:37:32 --> 00:37:33

my uncles. And I grew up with many

00:37:33 --> 00:37:35

mother figures. Besides my mother, they were my

00:37:35 --> 00:37:38

aunts as well. And they all played a

00:37:38 --> 00:37:40

role in raising us. And I try to

00:37:40 --> 00:37:42

ensure that my children have the same, that

00:37:42 --> 00:37:44

they have access to their grandmothers, they have

00:37:44 --> 00:37:46

access to their uncles and aunts, that we

00:37:46 --> 00:37:47

work together,

00:37:48 --> 00:37:49

in raising the next generation.

00:37:50 --> 00:37:52

The sad reality of the modern world

00:37:53 --> 00:37:56

is in what you mentioned, instant gratification and

00:37:56 --> 00:37:56

individualism.

00:37:57 --> 00:37:58

I believe individualism

00:37:58 --> 00:38:01

is at the root of most modern problems.

00:38:01 --> 00:38:02

Historically,

00:38:03 --> 00:38:05

people saw themselves as part of a collective.

00:38:06 --> 00:38:08

They saw themselves as part of the Ummah,

00:38:08 --> 00:38:10

as part of their community, as part of

00:38:10 --> 00:38:12

their village, as part of their tribe.

00:38:12 --> 00:38:15

And this is where their personality and their

00:38:15 --> 00:38:16

responsibilities

00:38:16 --> 00:38:18

and their matureness came from.

00:38:18 --> 00:38:19

In modern society,

00:38:20 --> 00:38:22

people see themselves only as individuals.

00:38:23 --> 00:38:26

My dreams, my goals, my life, my rights,

00:38:27 --> 00:38:29

whatever I want. And as a result,

00:38:30 --> 00:38:32

they lose their connection to the family. They

00:38:32 --> 00:38:35

lose their connection to the society. They lose

00:38:35 --> 00:38:36

their connection to the.

00:38:37 --> 00:38:40

So we really need to fight against this

00:38:40 --> 00:38:41

mindset of individualism.

00:38:42 --> 00:38:43

We need to go back to,

00:38:44 --> 00:38:48

being villages, to being communities, to being extended

00:38:48 --> 00:38:49

families.

00:38:49 --> 00:38:51

That is where happiness lies. That is where

00:38:51 --> 00:38:53

success lies. And, really, if you want to

00:38:53 --> 00:38:56

raise children well, you have to get everybody

00:38:56 --> 00:38:58

involved. That is the natural way. And as

00:38:58 --> 00:39:01

you speak, a thought that just crossed my

00:39:01 --> 00:39:02

mind is that

00:39:03 --> 00:39:04

individualism

00:39:04 --> 00:39:05

to me

00:39:05 --> 00:39:06

now equals

00:39:07 --> 00:39:07

selfishness

00:39:08 --> 00:39:09

and self centeredness.

00:39:09 --> 00:39:11

That's what we become as a community.

00:39:12 --> 00:39:15

That's true. And the way I differentiated is

00:39:15 --> 00:39:17

that about 30 years ago, we had individualism.

00:39:18 --> 00:39:20

Now we have hyper individualism.

00:39:20 --> 00:39:22

Mhmm. So hyper individualism is like an it's

00:39:22 --> 00:39:24

it's a it it's individualism taken to an

00:39:24 --> 00:39:26

extreme. So 30 years ago, it may have

00:39:26 --> 00:39:28

been like, oh, I wanna pursue my own

00:39:28 --> 00:39:29

career path. I don't wanna have the same

00:39:29 --> 00:39:32

career as my father. Right? Okay. That's that's

00:39:32 --> 00:39:34

not that bad. That that's that's understandable.

00:39:34 --> 00:39:37

Now it's become like people tell their own

00:39:37 --> 00:39:39

parents, you have no right to have any

00:39:39 --> 00:39:41

role in how I raise my children.

00:39:41 --> 00:39:43

Well, they, the grandparents, they do have a

00:39:43 --> 00:39:45

right. They do have a say. They are

00:39:45 --> 00:39:47

involved. You can't cut them out like that.

00:39:47 --> 00:39:48

But hyperindividualism

00:39:48 --> 00:39:51

has fragmented families to this level where people

00:39:52 --> 00:39:54

don't want anyone involved in their life at

00:39:54 --> 00:39:56

all, and it's just become all about the

00:39:56 --> 00:39:58

self. As you said, it becomes selfishness.

00:39:59 --> 00:40:01

And arrogance. Let's not forget about that.

00:40:02 --> 00:40:05

It drives us to become greedy, arrogant, and

00:40:05 --> 00:40:06

very, very selfish.

00:40:07 --> 00:40:09

Allah, guide and protect us, and we now

00:40:09 --> 00:40:12

come to, a part that I'm really interested

00:40:13 --> 00:40:13

in hearing,

00:40:14 --> 00:40:15

what you have to say.

00:40:15 --> 00:40:18

Getting the barakah and the Quran 30 for

00:40:18 --> 00:40:19

30 series,

00:40:20 --> 00:40:22

which you coauthored with Sheikh

00:40:22 --> 00:40:23

Omar Suleiman.

00:40:24 --> 00:40:27

How did you connect up with, Omar Soleiman?

00:40:27 --> 00:40:29

And I know that

00:40:29 --> 00:40:32

that relationship is still going very, very strong

00:40:32 --> 00:40:33

because you are involved

00:40:33 --> 00:40:36

with the Yakin Institute. Talk to us about

00:40:36 --> 00:40:37

this collaboration

00:40:38 --> 00:40:39

with sheikh Omar Soleiman.

00:40:41 --> 00:40:42

Hamdela.

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So one of my skills is networking.

00:40:46 --> 00:40:47

Hamdela, I'm able to

00:40:47 --> 00:40:49

establish a strong network of,

00:40:50 --> 00:40:51

and,

00:40:51 --> 00:40:53

important people all over the world.

00:40:54 --> 00:40:56

And, honestly, the way I do it is

00:40:56 --> 00:40:58

I just walk up to people and and

00:40:58 --> 00:40:59

introduce myself. So

00:40:59 --> 00:41:01

it was about 8 years ago, I was

00:41:01 --> 00:41:04

speaking at a conference in Malaysia, in Kuala

00:41:04 --> 00:41:05

Lumpur,

00:41:05 --> 00:41:08

and Omar Suleiman was speaking at a different

00:41:08 --> 00:41:10

conference in in Kuala Lumpur. So after my

00:41:10 --> 00:41:12

my lecture, I went over to the conference

00:41:12 --> 00:41:13

where he was speaking,

00:41:14 --> 00:41:15

and I walked up to him and I

00:41:15 --> 00:41:16

introduced myself.

00:41:17 --> 00:41:18

Right? And that was it. I just walked

00:41:18 --> 00:41:20

up to him and introduced myself, and we

00:41:20 --> 00:41:23

stayed in contact since then. And a few

00:41:23 --> 00:41:24

years later in 2020,

00:41:25 --> 00:41:26

I was looking for some change. I was

00:41:26 --> 00:41:28

looking to do something different with the next

00:41:28 --> 00:41:30

phase of my life. So I messaged him,

00:41:30 --> 00:41:32

and I actually DM'd him on Twitter.

00:41:33 --> 00:41:35

It's very strange because he doesn't ever reply

00:41:35 --> 00:41:37

to DMs on Twitter, but it was called

00:41:37 --> 00:41:39

the rollout he did that day. I DM

00:41:39 --> 00:41:40

ed him on Twitter asking him if he

00:41:40 --> 00:41:42

has any work for me.

00:41:42 --> 00:41:44

And he gave me a call on WhatsApp,

00:41:44 --> 00:41:46

and we spoke for about an hour, and

00:41:46 --> 00:41:48

I explained to him what I'm good at,

00:41:48 --> 00:41:49

what of what,

00:41:50 --> 00:41:52

what benefit I can bring to Yakeen Institute

00:41:53 --> 00:41:53

and,

00:41:54 --> 00:41:55

why I think we'd be a good fit

00:41:55 --> 00:41:57

to work together. And a month later, he

00:41:57 --> 00:41:59

made me an offer. And

00:41:59 --> 00:42:02

I have been with Yakeen Institute since then,

00:42:02 --> 00:42:03

since 2020.

00:42:04 --> 00:42:05

I head the department.

00:42:06 --> 00:42:08

As the head of the books department, I

00:42:08 --> 00:42:10

have overseen the production of about

00:42:10 --> 00:42:11

10 or 12 books,

00:42:13 --> 00:42:15

4 or 5 of which I am the

00:42:15 --> 00:42:15

co author.

00:42:16 --> 00:42:18

4 of them co authored with Sheikh Omar

00:42:18 --> 00:42:19

Suleiman himself.

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And, the way those books came about is

00:42:23 --> 00:42:24

that

00:42:24 --> 00:42:27

Sheikh Omar Suleiman has the Quran

00:42:28 --> 00:42:30

video series every Ramadan.

00:42:31 --> 00:42:34

And I had the idea of summarizing

00:42:34 --> 00:42:36

those video series into books.

00:42:37 --> 00:42:39

And so so we ended up every year

00:42:39 --> 00:42:41

with a new book just like we had

00:42:41 --> 00:42:44

every year, a new, video series. And, humbly,

00:42:44 --> 00:42:46

now now 5 years in, we have 4

00:42:46 --> 00:42:47

books in that series.

00:42:48 --> 00:42:50

Most of them are published as ebooks, but

00:42:50 --> 00:42:51

the latest one,

00:42:51 --> 00:42:53

is coming out soon as a paperback as

00:42:53 --> 00:42:54

well.

00:42:54 --> 00:42:56

Perhaps by next Ramadan, it will be available

00:42:57 --> 00:42:57

in the market.

00:42:58 --> 00:42:59

So,

00:42:59 --> 00:43:02

after or whilst you're still in this collaboration

00:43:03 --> 00:43:04

with the Yakeem Institute,

00:43:05 --> 00:43:07

I kind of was thinking to myself, where

00:43:07 --> 00:43:10

to from here for you, Sheikh,

00:43:10 --> 00:43:13

Kamdar? I mean, you've truly reached,

00:43:13 --> 00:43:15

to me, it seems, like the ceiling in

00:43:15 --> 00:43:16

your career.

00:43:17 --> 00:43:19

What are your thoughts on that? And I

00:43:19 --> 00:43:22

should imagine there are still quite a number

00:43:22 --> 00:43:23

of books in the pipeline as well.

00:43:28 --> 00:43:30

So it's important for us to remember that

00:43:30 --> 00:43:33

in Islam, success is not achieved in any

00:43:33 --> 00:43:33

worldly

00:43:34 --> 00:43:36

measure. Right? Success is the pleasure of Allah

00:43:36 --> 00:43:38

subhanahu wa ta'ala entering into Jannah.

00:43:38 --> 00:43:39

And really,

00:43:40 --> 00:43:40

fame

00:43:41 --> 00:43:43

and money and worldly success can be a

00:43:43 --> 00:43:45

test. It can be a distraction from,

00:43:46 --> 00:43:48

from the real goal. So it's important that

00:43:48 --> 00:43:50

we remain focused on what matters.

00:43:51 --> 00:43:51

I try

00:43:52 --> 00:43:54

to live my life in a way that

00:43:54 --> 00:43:55

I'm continuously

00:43:55 --> 00:43:56

continuously

00:43:56 --> 00:43:57

producing

00:43:57 --> 00:43:59

sources of continuous reward.

00:44:00 --> 00:44:02

Meaning that if I pass away,

00:44:02 --> 00:44:05

these books, these online courses, these lectures, they

00:44:05 --> 00:44:07

will continue to be a source

00:44:08 --> 00:44:10

of benefit for me in the afterlife.

00:44:10 --> 00:44:13

And so one of my goals in life

00:44:13 --> 00:44:15

is to write a 100 books before I

00:44:15 --> 00:44:15

die.

00:44:16 --> 00:44:18

Inshallah. So I'm only caught away there. So

00:44:18 --> 00:44:20

inshallah, I think I have plenty to do

00:44:20 --> 00:44:23

inshallah over however long Allah chooses to keep

00:44:23 --> 00:44:24

me on this earth.

00:44:24 --> 00:44:25

We all need to remember

00:44:26 --> 00:44:28

that at the end of the day, we

00:44:28 --> 00:44:29

will leave this world one day.

00:44:30 --> 00:44:31

And when we leave this world, we will

00:44:31 --> 00:44:33

have to account to Allah for how we

00:44:33 --> 00:44:36

spend our time. And so I try to

00:44:36 --> 00:44:37

spend my time

00:44:37 --> 00:44:38

benefiting

00:44:39 --> 00:44:40

the through the skills that Allah has given

00:44:40 --> 00:44:43

me. One of those skills being writing. A

00:44:43 --> 00:44:44

lot of people say that writing books is

00:44:44 --> 00:44:45

difficult,

00:44:45 --> 00:44:47

it comes easy to me. And so I've

00:44:47 --> 00:44:50

really dedicated my life to writing books that

00:44:50 --> 00:44:52

are beneficial to the Ummah and teaching online

00:44:52 --> 00:44:54

courses that are beneficial to the Ummah, hoping

00:44:54 --> 00:44:55

that,

00:44:56 --> 00:44:58

this will benefit me in the afterlife.

00:44:59 --> 00:45:01

That's really what matters that in the afterlife,

00:45:01 --> 00:45:03

we serve as a source of reward and

00:45:03 --> 00:45:05

entrance into Jannah. That's that's a real success.

00:45:05 --> 00:45:08

Until then, we we've been tested and even

00:45:08 --> 00:45:10

fame is a test and even money is

00:45:10 --> 00:45:12

a test and we should never lose sight

00:45:12 --> 00:45:12

of that.

00:45:13 --> 00:45:16

And believe it or not, that's where we're

00:45:16 --> 00:45:17

going to have to leave it. It's been

00:45:17 --> 00:45:19

wonderful talking with you this morning.

00:45:20 --> 00:45:22

What I do need to also ask is

00:45:22 --> 00:45:24

I think I heard that there's some sort

00:45:24 --> 00:45:25

of a conference coming on,

00:45:26 --> 00:45:29

and you are going to be, giving a

00:45:29 --> 00:45:31

talk or 2 at this conference

00:45:31 --> 00:45:33

in South Africa. Can you tell us a

00:45:33 --> 00:45:35

little bit about that, but very quickly because

00:45:35 --> 00:45:36

we have come to the end of the

00:45:36 --> 00:45:37

show?

00:45:38 --> 00:45:41

Yeah. So the Muslim Today conference will take

00:45:41 --> 00:45:44

place in 2 weeks' time in Durban, South

00:45:44 --> 00:45:46

Africa. You can visit the ILMSA,

00:45:47 --> 00:45:49

website or Instagram page for more details.

00:45:50 --> 00:45:52

They have a variety of speakers, and the

00:45:52 --> 00:45:54

purpose of the conference is to give Muslim

00:45:54 --> 00:45:54

woman,

00:45:56 --> 00:45:57

guidance on how to live a,

00:45:58 --> 00:45:59

an Islamic

00:45:59 --> 00:46:02

and productive lifestyle in the modern world.

00:46:02 --> 00:46:04

And I will be speaking at the conference

00:46:04 --> 00:46:06

about my book, 25 Keys to a Happy

00:46:06 --> 00:46:09

Life. So I will be expanding upon these

00:46:09 --> 00:46:10

concepts and how to live a happy life

00:46:10 --> 00:46:13

inshallah at the conference. So it's for women

00:46:13 --> 00:46:13

only,

00:46:14 --> 00:46:17

and, it, will be inshallah in Durban in

00:46:17 --> 00:46:19

2 weeks' time. I highly recommend that the

00:46:19 --> 00:46:22

ladies in Durban attend the conference as they

00:46:22 --> 00:46:25

are some excellent speakers and very important and

00:46:25 --> 00:46:26

relevant topics to our time.

00:46:27 --> 00:46:29

Sheikh Ismail Kamdar. It's been an absolute pleasure

00:46:29 --> 00:46:30

talking with you.

00:46:31 --> 00:46:33

I accept all of your efforts. Keep us

00:46:33 --> 00:46:34

in your duas.

00:46:35 --> 00:46:37

Until the next time, as always, Assalamu Alaikum.

00:46:40 --> 00:46:43

And that's where we leave it on this

00:46:43 --> 00:46:46

episode of perspective. I do hope you'll join

00:46:46 --> 00:46:48

me again next week at the same time

00:46:48 --> 00:46:49

for perspective.

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