Imtiaz Sooliman – Sudan Conflict SA citizens making their way home

Imtiaz Sooliman
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A representative from the humanitarian organization discusses the situation of the 22 South African passengers stuck in Egypt and their return to South Africa. The representative mentions the possibility of returning to South Africa and the need for clearance for their return. The representative also mentions the possibility of hundreds of thousands of passengers returning to the region and the need for clearance for their return.

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			Get an update on bringing the last
group of South Africans home from
		
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			Sudan. I'm joined by the director
of the humanitarian organization
		
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			gift of the givers, imtia
Suleiman, the organization, of
		
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			course, playing a pivotal role in
getting trapped South Africans and
		
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			other foreign nationals out of the
country since fighting began over
		
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			two weeks ago, Doctor, thank you
so much for joining us yesterday,
		
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			when we spoke, you said that the
22 were still at that port in
		
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			Egypt, but there has been a
development overnight. Are they
		
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			currently on the move? Tell us
where they are.
		
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			Good evening, sadly, yes, they're
about to move. They at 145 or zero
		
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			45 our time this morning, they
sent me a message to say that they
		
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			got a message from the Egyptian
Foreign Service to say they are
		
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			allowed to leave on condition that
somebody from the South African
		
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			government comes there to meet
them to sign them off. At 445 I
		
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			spoke to our judges agents in each
in Cairo, and they said they were
		
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			not aware of that rule that had to
come to the port. But I said some
		
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			of the thing happened in the Cairo
border on the first Tuesday with
		
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			the two busses, again on Friday
with the other bus. So they said,
		
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			Okay, they'll take a flight and go
later on in the morning. They
		
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			realized there's no flights today
to that area. So the guys, I'm
		
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			here to let Cisco aside, we have
to commend these people from the
		
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			embassy. They were dedicated,
committed their wake. The whole
		
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			night. They tried everything. Once
I gave them information yesterday
		
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			that these South Africans are
stuck, they took a drive from
		
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			Cairo to safaja port. Got there
late afternoon, four o'clock. They
		
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			had to wait for some time to get a
pass to enter the port, and by six
		
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			o'clock, the South Africans were
allowed to get onto the bus.
		
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			They're on their way out right as
I speak to you right now, we're
		
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			moving to the exit of the port,
but there's one more issue left.
		
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			We got to get their passports
back, and our intelligence
		
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			services are trying to sort out
the passports. Once that happens,
		
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			they go straight to Cairo airport
and get ready to fly to South
		
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			Africa. And any idea on time
frames around that, well,
		
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			it depends on the flights they fly
by. I think they should make it
		
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			for tomorrow's flight once
evening. I don't know what time
		
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			Ethiopian Airlines flies, but
they're flying on Ethiopian
		
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			Airlines from Cairo to Addis
direct to Cape Town. Alright, so
		
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			within the next 24 hours. As an
aside, we already spoke to the
		
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			General Manager of Ethiopian
Airlines to say, Please, we know
		
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			they've changed their tickets
twice in the in the last three
		
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			days because they couldn't get the
flight. And he said, Look, they
		
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			will be very accommodating to fit
those 22 South Africans to come
		
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			back to South Africa without any
issues. Oh, that's absolutely
		
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			wonderful news, and I'm sure they
can't wait to get home. Is it
		
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			absolutely clear now that every
South African who is in Sudan who
		
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			wants to leave has now been
assisted?
		
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			Yes, except, you know, well, it is
just Adam with a two Scottish
		
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			carriers who decided to stay. And
I said, you know, it's better that
		
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			he goes to the board himself to
explain about the dogs. It's his
		
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			dogs. Nobody else knows about it.
The dogs and him are on the way to
		
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			Cairo. Now, again about that. I
spoke to Ethiopian Airlines. They
		
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			will give a reduced fee for him.
We're still waiting for the fee
		
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			for the dogs. And he said, Look,
they will take the dogs, not an
		
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			issue. They can in Joburg land in
Joburg and Olaf tam was already,
		
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			already cleared the dogs to to
come into the country. It's just
		
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			they're waiting for the Egyptian
vets to give the clearance for the
		
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			dogs to leave the country. So this
is what a South African called
		
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			Adam. Did you say
		
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			yes, Adam Young, it's his dog.
		
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			I mean, that's quite wonderful.
It's such an incredible story that
		
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			he's just he loves his little dog
so much he's absolutely not
		
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			leaving without him. And I think
he a lot of us feel that way, that
		
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			two dogs, yeah, feel that way
about our animals. But of course,
		
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			you know, that's sort of a
lighter, sweeter moment against
		
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			this horrific backdrop of what is
going on in that region. We're
		
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			hearing reports that they're like
potentially 400,000
		
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			refugees who could be trying to
flee that region and leaving
		
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			Sudan. Are you still, I mean,
yesterday, when we spoke, you said
		
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			you were hearing sporadic updates.
Do you have any more information
		
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			on whether things are potentially
going to impact the entire region?
		
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			If refugees flood out of Sudan,
		
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			that's what happened already,
inevitably. But the question is,
		
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			will they get out of Sudan? You
know, that's a big question. You
		
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			have paperwork, I'm not sure, on
the border with Chad and going
		
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			towards Ethiopia and southern
Sudan, there will be a bit more
		
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			lenient towards people coming out.
But on the Egyptian side,
		
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			definitely, there's an issue
getting to port Sudan also doesn't
		
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			help, because you're not you're
not bordering any other country.
		
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			You need to fly out or you devour
a ship, and again, will another
		
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			country accept you? So on the
Egyptian side, yes, you're going
		
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			to see 1000s of refugees right
now, only those with paperwork
		
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			have been allowed. You know, it's
with strict control. So the
		
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			numbers are not big going through,
except if you have a proper
		
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			passport, visa, you can go
through. The others are stuck
		
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			there. I'm not sure what's
happening on the other borders,
		
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			no. If it is, it also depends how
much fighting is in those areas.
		
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			The fighting is not huge in all
the areas, yeah. So there's a
		
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			possibility.
		
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			That a lot of people will move
into rural areas. That's what the
		
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			Sudanese told us. They will move
to rural areas and they'll wait
		
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			there and see, like South
Africans, some of them opted to
		
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			stay behind, so they'll just stay
in a quiet area and wait for
		
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			things to settle. Yeah, well,
let's hope it does indeed settle.
		
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			Thank you so much for that update.
We look forward to welcoming those
		
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			22 South Africans, also Adam and
his two dogs, when they do finally
		
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			make it back to South Africa.
Thank you very much for all your
		
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			efforts. Director of the
humanitarian organization, gift of
		
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			the givers, dr, mts Suleiman, do
stay with us here on sa tonight.
		
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			I'll.