Imtiaz Sooliman – Gift of the Givers unable to access flood victims in Lia

Imtiaz Sooliman
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The speakers discuss the logistics and supply situation in logistics and supply, including the need for emergency services, specialized personnel and equipment, and regular flight routes. They express sadness at the loss of their team and the partnership with the national government. The speakers also discuss the need for body bags and body bags to prevent body-related pain, provide support and help people on the ground, and ensure privacy for their team. They express sadness at the loss of privacy and the risk of future disaster.

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			Well, as the world mobilizes to
assist emergency services deal
		
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			with the aftermath of that
catastrophic flood, aid is now
		
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			pouring in for the North African
country. In fact, gift of the
		
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			givers is also lending a hand, and
founder, Imtiaz Suleiman joins us
		
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			this morning to give us an update
on the situation. Dr Suleman, it's
		
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			good to talk to you. Thanks very
much indeed for coming on. Give us
		
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			a sense of how gift to the givers
is stepping in.
		
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			Good morning, Michelle, the actual
assistance they required from us
		
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			initially, I mean, from the Libyan
presidency, the ministers, the
		
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			disaster center, the ambassador in
South Africa, the Libyan doctors
		
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			in South Africa, students on the
ground in different areas in Derna
		
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			Tripoli, the urgent request was
for rescue, specialized rescue
		
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			personnel, both search and rescue,
because though this is a flood,
		
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			it's very in effect like a
Southern tsunami, because it
		
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			brought brought the buildings down
like an earthquake, and that water
		
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			struck all over and flooding
everywhere. So they needed search
		
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			and rescue teams and specialized
equipment. They needed aquatic
		
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			teams. They needed medical teams.
They needed boats. We've got a
		
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			life located to see where people
are live. We will got dog handlers
		
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			and canines. Saps is our partner.
So they required all that kind of
		
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			stuff as a priority. We will, we
have teams. That is 70 people
		
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			ready to go, and there's no way we
can get into Libya. You know,
		
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			there's very few
		
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			airlines that fly into the country
and where we need to go is quite
		
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			far from where the planes fly to
group was the closest border,
		
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			about a town, 180 kilometers from
Ghana. And the best option, the
		
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			safest option, because of the
different armed groups in the
		
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			country, two governments hostage
taking. The safest bet was to
		
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			charter plane. We tried but nine
different companies, nobody was
		
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			prepared to fly to Libya, and
eventually one company came at a
		
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			cost of 16 million ran off. So
that just didn't work. The
		
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			alternative was to provide them
supplies which they need, and
		
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			that's what we busy what right now
we visit procuring medicines
		
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			inside Dubai, but the companies
that we worked for in the past,
		
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			and we visit providing supplies in
South Africa. The European
		
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			government has then said it will
send a plane to fetch the supplies
		
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			from us in South Africa, and we
send more than one plane for us to
		
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			support them. So as it stands now,
Dr Suleman, given everything that
		
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			you've just outlined, you have not
been able to get those specialist
		
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			teams into the country just yet.
		
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			No, we can't get them in because
nobody prepared to fly there. The
		
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			Libyan government then offered to
send a plane to fetch us. But we
		
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			don't operate that way. The
security of my teams come first.
		
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			More important than getting in is,
how do you get out? Especially if
		
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			there's armed conflict in the
country, and if we don't control
		
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			like the aircraft going and coming
out. I would never accept an
		
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			option when aircraft control is in
a third party. Unfortunately, I
		
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			could accept that I couldn't put
my teams at risk. So, so what's
		
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			the plan? Dr solimani, you say
that you you are assisting in so
		
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			far as medicines and supply is
concerned. Are you still doing
		
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			what you can to try and arrange
yourself to get your teams into
		
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			the country. Is that still an
option? No, that's not an option,
		
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			because they are. There's no
aircraft companies going to start
		
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			in the next two days to start
flying regular flights to Libya.
		
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			The importance is to have regular
flights. The flights are not
		
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			regular, and they're not daily. If
you have a crisis, you can't get
		
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			out in an emergency. If you have
your own plane, you can park into
		
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			the country, next next door, and
you can come within minutes to
		
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			fetch you. So that option is out,
both in terms of availability and
		
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			in terms of cost, in terms of
supplies. Yes, we can send
		
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			supplies, because it's a huge
deal. They're telling us, look,
		
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			not much aid is coming to our
country. We are desperate for for
		
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			aid. They wouldn't send a plane if
they were not that desperate, you
		
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			know? And they said, real people
to send more planes, because we
		
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			really need the support. And what
they need now, critically, is body
		
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			bags. They said, We need 1000s of
body bags, because the figures
		
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			you're seeing, it's far more worse
than what you actually seeing and
		
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			you're wearing, you know, we're on
site, and that information is
		
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			coming from doctors, from
students, from people on the
		
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			ground, all said, it's just
horrific. Tamara bodies all over
		
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			the show. And the second thing
they ask you now for is formula.
		
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			Preserve the bodies, especially
since they decomposing so pre
		
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			burial, they need formula. They
lead large quantities upon a
		
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			formula. Then of course, they need
antibiotics and energetics of
		
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			pain, our whole range of education
items, items for theater, theater,
		
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			medication, anesthetics, all those
kind of items which we are
		
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			procuring. And then they said,
because they can't drink the water
		
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			they want, like rehydration
solutions, which, which, you don't
		
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			need some water, but it must be
ready to drink immediately because
		
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			the water is unsafe. And then, by
the same token, they want food
		
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			that's ready to eat. All those
items we have, you know, which we
		
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			can send to them.
		
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			Sure, a devastating situation. And
as you say, Dr Suleman, you've got
		
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			your teams, not your teams, but
you've got contact in Libya
		
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			describing that situation to you
there. What I can say, Dr Suleman,
		
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			is that it's really a major loss
for that country that gives.
		
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			To the givers is not able to be
there, given the incredible work
		
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			done by the organization,
		
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			my teams feel very sad, Michelle,
you know what? Because we
		
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			specialize in this life savings,
our speciality bringing closure to
		
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			people is what we do best, and
it's such a fantastic partnership
		
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			with South Bank. EMS, lepou Ems,
both have embassies around from
		
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			both provinces, police, sapogas,
the national government, Detroit,
		
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			state security, everybody's has
been informed and as such. And of
		
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			course, canine, from the sapsa dog
analyst, everybody wants to work
		
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			together. It's great experience
for South Africa. It's great for
		
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			an African country, not another
African country. But the risk
		
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			because of the absence of a plight
is to higher the cost if
		
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			government puts up a plane and we
turn our control and say, Look,
		
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			we're taking you, our government
is taking us across, wait and to
		
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			come back, bring you back, that's
a different option, but it's a
		
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			very costly business. Just a plane
alone, 16 million from the airline
		
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			company. What about all the goods
you still got to put inside? Yeah,
		
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			yeah, absolutely. I mean, I'm
surprised as well. Dr Suleman,
		
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			just given the volatility that we
know exists in Libya, that we even
		
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			have people who are willing to get
on a plane, if indeed you were
		
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			able to do that, and to go to the
country, to do the incredible work
		
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			that you do.
		
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			Well, we have been to a higher
situations before, but always, as
		
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			I said, the exit plan is more
important. Exit Strategy is more
		
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			important than the entry. We
always have that in place before
		
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			we go, we just need to remind the
viewers that her co founder, the
		
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			South African from swelling down,
was taken hostage in Libya, you
		
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			know, and it's still a hostage.
It's going to be in November, is
		
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			going to be six years in
captivity.
		
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			Yeah, the risk is incredible. The
risk is undeniable.
		
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			Yes, so you know, and as a
responsible team leader, you can't
		
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			put 70 people's life settlers.
They've got families, they're
		
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			working, they've got income.
They've got to look after the
		
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			virus, the children. I can't take
a dislike. My rule is very clear.
		
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			My team comes first, you know, not
not victims of a disaster. It's a
		
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			standard rule, which I'm not
ashamed to say, my team members
		
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			come first, because I need them in
other disasters too. Dr MTS.
		
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			Sullivan, it's always a great
pleasure and honor talking to you
		
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			sir. Thanks very much indeed for
coming on give to the givers,
		
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			despite challenges, still doing
what they can to assist the
		
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			situation following the Libyan
floods. Dr Silvan, thanks very
		
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			much indeed. You.