Hamzah Wald Maqbul – Asiya Bibi Pakistan and Blasphemy 11042018

Hamzah Wald Maqbul
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			All praises to Allah Subhanahu Wa
		
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			Ta'ala. And may his peace and blessings be
		
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			upon his servant and messenger, our master, Saydna
		
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			Muhammad salallahu alaihi wasalam,
		
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			who is the greatest of Allah ta'ala's blessings
		
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			to
		
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			all of his creation,
		
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			the ins and the jinn,
		
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			the animals,
		
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			the heavens, the earth,
		
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			this world, and the hereafter,
		
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			who is the pride and the joy and
		
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			the happiness of anyone who keeps faith
		
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			inside of their heart, not only of this
		
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			ummah, but from the time of Sayidna Adam
		
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			until the last person who knows the divine
		
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			name and says the divine name Allah Allah
		
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			leaves from this earth.
		
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			The question
		
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			of blasphemy has come to me a number
		
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			of times, especially in light of this,
		
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			case that is,
		
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			now,
		
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			shook,
		
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			both Pakistan
		
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			and the world,
		
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			in regards to
		
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			what should be done with a
		
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			non Muslim subject of a Muslim,
		
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			sovereign,
		
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			polity,
		
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			in in
		
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			in response to
		
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			that non Muslims'
		
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			cursing of the messenger of Allah
		
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			or
		
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			blaspheming of the
		
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			messenger of Allah
		
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			And,
		
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			this is a very
		
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			it's a very important issue, and it's a
		
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			very sensitive issue from
		
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			many different sides
		
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			because it involves
		
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			dealing with the sensibilities
		
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			with regards to the sacred, both for
		
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			Muslims as well as for secular minded people
		
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			who may claim that they don't have a
		
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			religion, but they do hold,
		
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			certain things to be moral morals and virtues
		
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			that are,
		
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			nonnegotiable
		
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			with a type of religious fervor. And so
		
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			issues like this are very sensitive because,
		
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			because they make people different groups of people
		
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			head toward,
		
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			conflict,
		
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			conflict a type of conflict that's
		
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			irreconcilable
		
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			without some sort of violence or without some
		
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			sort of,
		
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			without some sort of chaotic,
		
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			response, which is something that all people of
		
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			common sense, whether they be Muslims or not,
		
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			wish to avoid at all costs.
		
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			And, you know, the the the issue is
		
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			this is that
		
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			both the world view of Islam and the
		
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			world view of,
		
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			the kind of dominant hegemony of liberal secularism,
		
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			both of them
		
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			basically espouse an exclusive claim to truth,
		
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			an exclusive claim to truth that that excludes
		
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			all other than them.
		
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			Islam
		
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			making such a claim
		
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			openly
		
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			and liberal secularism,
		
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			not necessarily being cognizant of that claim,
		
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			but, but,
		
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			keeping,
		
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			the the belief that its claim to truth
		
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			or its claim to enlightenment is,
		
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			somehow,
		
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			somehow
		
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			manifest and and self apparent,
		
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			and and,
		
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			it's manifest how it's supreme over all other
		
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			claims
		
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			and how its claim,
		
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			engenders for its followers the right even to
		
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			violence in order to, in order to establish
		
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			it in the earth.
		
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			Obviously, if you say everything is true,
		
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			or every
		
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			person has a right to say or do
		
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			whatever they want, then,
		
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			you enter some sort of paradox because if
		
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			a person,
		
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			says that that, no. People don't have the
		
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			right to do or say what they want,
		
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			then
		
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			you have not given them the right to
		
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			do or say that. So, you know, from
		
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			a rational
		
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			point of view, it can go to certain
		
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			places that are
		
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			that are
		
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			irrational.
		
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			But that's not necessarily what what we wanna
		
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			talk about today. We wanna talk about
		
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			the case of
		
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			Asiya Bibi,
		
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			who was a,
		
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			a a a Christian woman from Punjab,
		
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			who was accused of cursing the messenger of
		
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			Allah, sallallahu alaihi wasalam,
		
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			in a dispute with other
		
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			manual laborers, farm laborers.
		
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			And the case there's so many weird and
		
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			messed up things about the about it, at
		
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			so many different levels.
		
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			It doesn't surprise me that it's this entire
		
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			thing has become such a mess.
		
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			And I don't know the specifics of the
		
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			case in the sense that I haven't, like,
		
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			gone deep into it and investigated it, but
		
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			I just wanted to give some comments,
		
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			with regards to the general concept,
		
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			of blasphemy and what it's you know, what
		
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			the what the punishment is for it in
		
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			the Sharia and why.
		
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			But the specific case is really messed up
		
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			on on so many levels. So supposedly,
		
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			this Christian woman
		
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			from Punjab and in Punjab, you know, for
		
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			for those of us who are from,
		
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			the Indian subcontinent, particularly in Punjab, Punjab has
		
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			a
		
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			a fair fair sized
		
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			Christian community,
		
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			and,
		
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			many of them were from the,
		
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			from from the cast
		
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			of of of of sewer cleaners and garbage
		
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			collectors,
		
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			in Hinduism.
		
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			And en masse during the British, colonization of
		
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			the subcontinent, they became Christian,
		
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			whether it was out of sincerity or out
		
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			of some sort of desire for social upward
		
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			mobility by identifying with the colonizer.
		
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			Knows best what's in the hearts of people.
		
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			But at any rate, they they all,
		
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			they all
		
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			became Christians at the same time so much
		
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			so that the the word for that cast
		
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			or class of people,
		
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			in Punjabi, which is it's not a really
		
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			complimentary word, so I don't wanna I don't
		
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			wanna say it right now because I don't
		
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			wanna repeat what's essentially turned into a racial
		
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			epithet.
		
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			The word for that cast of of cleaners,
		
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			of sewer cleaners and and garbage,
		
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			collectors,
		
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			hasn't now become I mean, it's become
		
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			one of the meanings of it has become
		
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			Christian. So a person by context, you'll know
		
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			if that that word is used, whether they
		
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			mean somebody who is
		
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			a collector, a garbage collector,
		
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			or cleaner,
		
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			or, whether they are Christian by context.
		
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			And people people now use it interchangeably for
		
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			the 2 of them. And,
		
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			the,
		
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			Muslims in the Indian subcontinent,
		
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			most, if not all, I wouldn't say all,
		
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			but a great majority of them, there is
		
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			still some latent caste consciousness
		
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			amongst them. Even though majority of them are
		
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			converts from
		
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			Hinduism,
		
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			to Islam, and thereby therefore, they should have
		
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			left their castes behind
		
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			with their Islam, but there is still a
		
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			caste consciousness
		
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			amongst them. And the really weird part is
		
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			even like the sadat, the Ahlulbayt of the
		
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			prophet sallallahu alaihi wa sallam, the Ashraf, the
		
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			people of noble
		
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			lineage and descent,
		
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			from Quraysh and from the other tribes of
		
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			the Arabs,
		
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			they they they they still have a caste
		
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			consciousness
		
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			in the sense that,
		
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			they moved into the Indian subcontinent, which had
		
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			a caste culture.
		
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			And so,
		
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			they they, I guess, fit in by
		
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			by showing their their their upper castedness, for
		
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			lack of a
		
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			proper way of saying that. And it just
		
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			gets really strange. It gets really weird.
		
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			And suffice to say that, you know, a
		
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			lot of the manifestation of caste
		
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			is utterly just a remnant of of jahiliyah,
		
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			amongst the Muslims. And so what happened what
		
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			happened is that,
		
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			supposedly
		
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			in,
		
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			in in in in Hinduism, upper caste people
		
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			consider it to be, like,
		
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			bad bad luck, ill fortune, or, you know,
		
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			sort of a,
		
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			something that destroys a barakah in an upper
		
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			caste person's upper castedness,
		
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			that they should eat and drink from the
		
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			same, utensils that someone from a lower caste,
		
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			should eat or drink from. And so what
		
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			had supposedly
		
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			happened is that this woman,
		
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			drank from from some vessels and then filled
		
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			them with water and then gave that water
		
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			to drink to these other Muslim women.
		
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			And all of them are farm laborers. So
		
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			it's like it's not like any of these
		
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			people, even
		
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			if the Muslim women consider themselves to be
		
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			from a higher caste, I mean, all these
		
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			people are dirt broke and probably all illiterate
		
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			and,
		
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			not, you know, none of the above are
		
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			in any sort of, like, enfranchised position within
		
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			society,
		
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			because such people don't, you know, don't don't
		
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			do farm labor.
		
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			So the,
		
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			you know, they
		
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			they apparently, some row broke out between them
		
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			because the Muslim women were upset
		
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			that this Christian woman had drank from the
		
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			vessels that they then drank from.
		
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			And that upsetness obviously has no root in
		
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			our deen,
		
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			where you can share vessels to eat and
		
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			drink from from all sorts of different people.
		
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			But, unfortunately, I've witnessed this even in the
		
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			houses of the Asaraf, in the houses of
		
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			people who pray 5 times a day, in
		
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			Pakistan,
		
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			that,
		
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			the servants, they won't let them drink and
		
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			eat from the same vessels and utensils. Rather,
		
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			they'll have a separate set of utensils marked
		
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			marked for the servants.
		
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			And when asked, like, why do you do
		
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			that? That's like an old Hindu custom and
		
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			you're obviously Muslims.
		
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			Some of them even claiming to be sadahs
		
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			from the Ahlulbayt to the prophet sallallahu alaihi
		
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			wa sallam.
		
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			They'll say, oh no no no, well, you
		
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			know, those people may be sick or they
		
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			may this and that and the other thing,
		
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			so we don't wanna get sick. To which
		
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			I'll reply, you know, why don't you just
		
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			wash the dishes after after they're done, which
		
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			is what everyone else does? Because surely, it
		
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			couldn't be more dirty than the dishes that
		
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			have been sitting there the whole night.
		
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			But, it's just something people won't let go
		
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			of. So these women apparently had a row
		
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			with one another. They fought they, you know,
		
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			got into a fight with one another. And,
		
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			in in a core in the course of
		
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			that argument where,
		
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			undoubtedly,
		
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			this Christian woman's,
		
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			Nasr bin lineage was probably,
		
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			attacked and impugned,
		
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			she supposedly
		
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			said some curse about the prophet
		
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			back,
		
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			and, this caused the entire thing to get
		
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			out of hand. And, then a mob
		
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			apparently got a hold of her and, under
		
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			force of duress, forced her to admit,
		
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			that she cursed the prophet and
		
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			blasphemed him. And,
		
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			then she was whatever, the case was lodged
		
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			against her, and then she was found guilty
		
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			in 1 court and 2 courts. And then,
		
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			finally,
		
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			the the the verdict was overturned in in
		
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			in in
		
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			in in,
		
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			a higher federal court.
		
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			And now, a great number of people are
		
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			up in arms
		
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			in in in Pakistan,
		
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			who has a really horrible record of
		
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			their judiciary being influenced
		
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			by the military and by foreign governments.
		
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			The Raymond Davis case having happened a couple
		
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			of years ago, where
		
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			a private contractor or intelligence officer of the
		
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			United States of America literally, like, ran over
		
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			with impunity in a SUV, a large SUV,
		
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			several Pakistanis,
		
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			and he more or less got off scot
		
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			free and was allowed to leave the country,
		
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			despite his impunity because of
		
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			pressure from the outside. So there's already a
		
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			sensitivity to this issue. And when the the
		
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			the person of the prophet, sallallahu alaihi wa
		
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			sallam, is is is at question, then the
		
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			Muslims are even more sensitive with regards to
		
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			that. And,
		
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			there has been rioting in Pakistan,
		
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			and even possibly murders in Pakistan,
		
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			in the in the last, couple of days,
		
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			with regards to this case and with regards
		
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			to this idea of,
		
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			did the high court, let off
		
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			a blasphemer of the messenger of Allah sallallahu
		
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			alaihi wa sallam
		
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			or not?
		
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			And then the question arises that, is it
		
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			true that the blasphemy of the messenger of
		
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			Allah sallallahu alaihi wasallam is a capital offense
		
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			in in the law of the Muslims, and
		
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			is it true that,
		
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			such a law also applies to the non
		
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			Muslim subjects of a Muslim country?
		
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			And, you know, what's the deal? How do
		
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			these 2 you know, all these pieces fit
		
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			together?
		
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			So I wanted to start with,
		
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			with a couple of mentioning a couple of
		
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			things. One is that it's true in the,
		
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			Maliki's school,
		
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			the person who curses the messenger of Allah
		
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			that one once that case reaches the judge,
		
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			the judge,
		
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			if he is to establish that this thing
		
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			happened with proper
		
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			evidence,
		
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			be it a
		
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			the testimony of upright witnesses or be it,
		
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			which is the admission of guilt from the,
		
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			the defendant,
		
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			or,
		
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			you know, be it through other material means
		
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			like a recording or something like that. Whatever
		
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			means is used to establish guilt in such
		
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			a case. It's true that not only is
		
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			that person,
		
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			has have they committed a capital,
		
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			offense,
		
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			But there's no Tawba in it. There's no
		
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			Istitaba, neither are they asked to repent,
		
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			nor if they repent will that repentance be
		
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			accepted by the court. It may be accepted
		
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			by Allah Ta'ala,
		
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			on the day of judgment, but it will
		
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			not be accepted by the court. And there's
		
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			a lengthy discussion of that and why that
		
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			is,
		
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			that you can find in the books,
		
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			the idea being that the Haqq of the
		
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			prophet sallallahu alaihi wa sallam is the Haqq
		
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			of the of the creation, and it cannot
		
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			be forgiven except for by its people. And,
		
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			in this case, the people who forgive
		
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			are the, inheritors of the messenger of Allah
		
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			salallahu alaihi wasalam, which is the entire ummah.
		
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			And so in that sense, to get forgiveness
		
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			from from all of them is not possible.
		
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			So both in a Usuli sense and,
		
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			also in
		
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			a a type of logic that appeals to
		
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			the iman of the believers, it's not it's
		
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			not to be forgiven,
		
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			and that person is executed.
		
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			In the,
		
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			Maliki school, it doesn't matter whether it is
		
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			that subject is a Muslim or a non
		
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			Muslim. And it's important for people to understand
		
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			because there's a lot of, like,
		
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			Fox Newsy and scaremongering
		
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			going on around.
		
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			This doesn't mean that somebody cannot say that
		
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			they don't believe that the prophet sallallahu alaihi
		
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			wasallam is a prophet,
		
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			or,
		
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			cannot refute his claims to prophethood
		
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			or
		
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			it's well known, you know, to us that
		
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			that there are many amongst the Jews and
		
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			the Christians who
		
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			and,
		
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			the messenger of Allah
		
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			is
		
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			is,
		
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			absolved of of any connection to their claims,
		
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			but many of them believe that he was,
		
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			not telling the truth,
		
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			in his claims.
		
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			And, that's that's understood. That's not what the
		
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			shatam is here. Right? Because when we say
		
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			blasphemy,
		
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			I guess people think about it in a
		
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			Christian or in a Catholic sense. Here
		
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			here blasphemy means sub or shut them. It
		
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			means going out of your way to curse
		
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			or speak ill,
		
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			or denigrate the prophet
		
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			which is different than saying I don't believe
		
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			in him or I don't believe he was
		
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			telling the truth or I don't think that
		
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			he is a messenger of Allah or etcetera
		
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			etcetera
		
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			from the from the the you know the
		
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			the beliefs of
		
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			non Muslims which are known it's known that
		
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			they believe them.
		
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			And may Allah,
		
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			pardon me for mentioning it, but, you know,
		
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			to,
		
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			relate the words of of another person is
		
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			in is in and of itself, not not
		
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			not Kufra.
		
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			At any rate, the idea is this is
		
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			that that that's not what the
		
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			is. Here,
		
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			is going out of your way just to
		
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			denigrate the prophet, salaw, and someone just being
		
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			nasty about it, just being foul about it
		
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			and and and and just doing it on
		
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			purpose to hurt people's feelings, that in our
		
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			in our,
		
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			in our sacred law, it is a crime,
		
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			and it is a really severe crime.
		
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			And in the Maliki school, even if a
		
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			non Muslim subject of this of of of
		
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			of a sovereign Muslim polity
		
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			were to do that, then they would also
		
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			be subject to the same penalty that a
		
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			Muslim would have had they had they,
		
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			done the sub or shut them of cursing
		
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			of
		
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			prophet and just like them, there would be
		
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			no
		
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			nor would there be any tawba accepted. They
		
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			would not be asked to recant
		
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			nor would that recanting be accepted except for
		
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			in the case of a, a non Muslim
		
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			who,
		
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			accepts Islam in front of the judge.
		
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			That person would be, would be,
		
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			absolved and let go of their,
		
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			let go of their sin. They're not asked
		
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			to become Muslim or demanded. It's not demanded
		
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			of them to become Muslim. But if they
		
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			should happen to accept Islam at that time,
		
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			The act of accepting Islam will will erase,
		
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			those things that come from before.
		
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			And for that reason, that is a way
		
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			that that that that the
		
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			the punishment that the Malekus consider a had.
		
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			They consider a an immutable and unforgivable,
		
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			divinely mandated punishment that that it will be,
		
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			that it will be absolved. But the Maleku
		
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			position on this issue
		
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			is far from the only position,
		
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			in in in the, you know, in the
		
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			in the different Sunni schools
		
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			of thought.
		
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			And it's known that the Hanafi position,
		
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			is that, that the has the prerogative
		
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			to or at least the classical Hanafi positions.
		
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			The Qadi have the prerogative to
		
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			punish,
		
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			such a non Muslim for their,
		
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			for their extremely poor judgment and cursing the
		
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			prophet sallallahu alaihi wa sallam.
		
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			But the judge is not obliged
		
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			to, order the execution of,
		
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			of such a such a person.
		
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			And,
		
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			it's very interesting. A number of people,
		
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			including the brother Ismail Royer,
		
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			who,
		
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			have written papers or written,
		
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			you know, to the effect of, well, look
		
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			at Pakistan, they're,
		
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			executing non Muslims who,
		
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			cursed the prophet
		
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			or at least that's their their their civil
		
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			code. To my knowledge, they haven't to date
		
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			executed anybody,
		
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			who cursed the prophet
		
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			but at any rate,
		
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			you know, they say, oh, look, these people
		
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			don't even know the Hanafi school.
		
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			And, with all due respect,
		
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			all of the people, the Madrasah graduates and
		
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			others like brother Ismail,
		
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			that have said this.
		
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			I don't really see that they have
		
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			the amount or the requisite amount of study,
		
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			or,
		
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			review of the of of the of 5th
		
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			text to be able to make such a
		
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			claim,
		
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			in any sort of,
		
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			in any sort of scholarly way or with
		
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			any sort of thoroughness.
		
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			And the proof of that is is that
		
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			all of them will quote Ibn Abidine,
		
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			which who is a a Muhaqqiq and a
		
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			of the Hanafi school,
		
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			in the 18th century.
		
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			In his in his claim,
		
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			you know, at places I mean, it's actually
		
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			his text is ambiguous, but at places that,
		
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			that the
		
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			the is that that the,
		
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			that that that's
		
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			is not,
		
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			automatically necessarily executed for his for, blaspheming
		
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			of the prophet
		
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			The fact that Ibn Abideen isn't the only
		
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			word on the Hanafi madhab,
		
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			if we put it to to the side
		
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			for a second,
		
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			the Indian subcontinent
		
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			has its own fatwa collections. And it has
		
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			its own fatwa traditions,
		
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			a tradition, and it had its own its
		
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			own empire through which,
		
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			through which the Hanafi was turned into and
		
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			and it was
		
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			the law of the land. And,
		
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			you know, the
		
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			his,
		
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			paper that he wrote,
		
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			quoted absolutely no,
		
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			subcontinental
		
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			Hanafi source.
		
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			And,
		
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			it's known,
		
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			that, the
		
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			the, the Hanafis of the subcontinent,
		
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			their local tradition was what? Was,
		
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			on this issues, the same as the,
		
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			as the Maliki position. And this has been
		
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			a a precedent that's been held in our
		
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			lands for,
		
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			for centuries.
		
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			And, the the Hudud Ordinance,
		
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			with regards to
		
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			with regards to sub and shutam of the
		
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			prophet sallallahu alaihi wa sallam and the Hudud
		
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			ordinances in general.
		
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			They have a lot of administrative,
		
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			issues.
		
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			The way that they're
		
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			implemented, there's a lot of issues in them.
		
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			However, the actual text of the code was
		
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			written by the ulama themselves, and it's actually
		
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			relatively accurately written. It's relatively it has fidelity
		
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			to
		
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			to,
		
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			the established traditions of the Indian subcontinent
		
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			with regards to, with regards to these issues.
		
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			So kind of, like, English language,
		
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			poor researched, like, done
		
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			newspaper type claims that somehow the British are
		
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			the ones who originated
		
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			the punishment
		
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			for blasphemy in the Inuit subcontinent. This is
		
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			all nonsense. It's from people who don't read
		
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			classical Arabic and don't read books of fiqh,
		
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			that, you know, the Indian subcontinent
		
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			has had its own tradition of,
		
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			for centuries.
		
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			You'll look through even Bhais Ma'il's
		
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			bibliography for the paper that he wrote. There's
		
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			no subcontinental,
		
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			there's no subcontinental
		
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			source that's even cited over there.
		
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			So if you read Hashem Tatvi or,
		
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			or, you know, look through the Alumgiri,
		
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			Tatarkhani, Qazi Khan, the different
		
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			Fatwa collections which were
		
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			compiled
		
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			under imperial,
		
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			under imperial patronage
		
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			during the Mughal Empire. None of those books
		
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			have even been cracked open or cited. Rather,
		
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			Ibn Abidine, who is writing halfway across the
		
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			world,
		
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			in a different tradition and diff with with
		
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			different set of precedents,
		
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			he's the one who's being quoted in order
		
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			to somehow
		
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			make it look like,
		
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			the the code,
		
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			and the in the subcontinent
		
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			was written by illiterate,
		
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			yahoos or fanatics or or whatever. And this
		
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			idea of the the the fanatical mullah is
		
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			a complete trope.
		
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			And, you know, my experience is the only
		
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			people who hold it are people who are,
		
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			like, fanatical,
		
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			fanatical modernists. But, kher,
		
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			we digress.
		
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			So the idea is that this is a
		
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			part of the sharia,
		
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			and it is within the amate of difference
		
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			of opinion.
		
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			Both that the the the dhimmi, the non
		
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			Muslim subject of the sovereign
		
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			Muslim polity,
		
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			that that that such a person is is
		
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			killed without
		
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			without,
		
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			opportunity to
		
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			recant their statement or repent from it. And
		
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			it's also
		
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			an opinion within the Ambit of the Ahlul
		
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			Sunnur Jama'ah
		
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			that, that person is not necessarily killed, but
		
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			it is the purview of the Qadi that
		
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			that such a person should be killed. And,
		
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			look,
		
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			the idea is that,
		
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			you know, cursing the prophet,
		
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			it is
		
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			essentially undermining
		
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			the,
		
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			it's undermining the,
		
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			society
		
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			and the the civilization
		
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			of Islam, the spirituality of Islam, that a
		
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			human being, doesn't
		
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			listen to, you know, someone being cursed again
		
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			and again except for, it makes them lose
		
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			respect for that person.
		
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			And this this the fact that the US
		
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			Constitution or that modern secular democracies
		
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			at least bandy around as if, you know,
		
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			you know, sticks and stones will break my
		
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			bones and there's absolute freedom of speech, but
		
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			words will never hurt me, so we have
		
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			absolute freedom of speech. This is actually not
		
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			true. And it's interesting when the Charlie Hebdo,
		
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			issue happened, oh, in, 2015.
		
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			Some reporters went to the pope and asked
		
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			him, you know, like, wasn't it horrible what
		
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			these, you know, like, Yahoo Muslims did and,
		
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			you know, shooting up the, Charlie Hebdo and
		
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			things like that, thinking that, you know, the
		
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			Pope is the Pope. He's,
		
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			at the end of the day, he's the
		
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			highest authority
		
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			of Western Christianity,
		
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			and, so he's going to, you know, get
		
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			in a cheap shot on on Muslims. And
		
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			the pope gave a really interesting response. It's
		
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			the same Mario
		
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			Bergoglio,
		
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			pope Francis.
		
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			He basically pointed at his papal legate who
		
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			was standing right next to him. And he
		
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			says, look. Even if this guy, said, something
		
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			about my mother, I would punch him. Meaning
		
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			what?
		
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			There's something human about, you know, someone you
		
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			love and someone you revere,
		
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			not accepting,
		
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			you know, garbage being spoken about
		
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			about about that person. And I think, you
		
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			know, Muslims who are
		
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			true to themselves as a human being and
		
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			true to themselves in their iman,
		
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			they understand that. And that's one of the
		
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			reasons that was there such an incredible
		
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			emotional and cathartic release happened when this Habib
		
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			Nur Muhammadov
		
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			had this fight with MacGregor because we we
		
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			know we're sick and tired of people just
		
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			mocking our deen. And the the the issue
		
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			is not this that we establish the the
		
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			supremacy or the truth of the deen through
		
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			killing people who disagree with us.
		
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			Rather, it's quite the opposite. Muslims have,
		
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			from before the idea existed in Western Europe,
		
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			not only allowed but legally enshrined the right
		
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			for non Muslim subjects of the state to,
		
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			to to to say what their point of
		
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			view is with regards to religion and what
		
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			they believe and why they believe it, even
		
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			if that belief includes them not accepting the
		
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			prophet
		
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			as a prophet or not accepting him as
		
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			truthful or whatever.
		
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			But there's a line that's, crossed that's drawn
		
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			that shouldn't be crossed, which is mocking him
		
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			and and and jeering him and denigrating him,
		
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			as if as if he has no respect
		
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			whatsoever.
		
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			And, that's, you know, that's that's something that,
		
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			you know, I guess Muslims and,
		
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			you know, people who believe, like, in the
		
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			religious,
		
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			sense with religious fervor, believe in secular
		
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			liberal democracy are just gonna have to agree
		
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			to disagree about,
		
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			because the locus of their disagreement is actually
		
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			quite similar
		
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			when when when, an allegacy looked at,
		
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			you know, with respect to what the actual
		
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			speech is that they will tolerate and what
		
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			actual speech is that they will not tolerate.
		
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			And that's why, you know, we have, this
		
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			idea that you can send an army to
		
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			go in and destroy,
		
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			sovereign nations and kill innocent people as, as
		
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			collateral damage in drone villages, etcetera, etcetera, because
		
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			we're quote, unquote
		
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			bringing democracy.
		
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			The idea is that that there are certain
		
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			matters of speech
		
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			that are,
		
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			that are, you know, that are things that
		
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			people will kill for, and there are just
		
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			different reasons for different people doing them.
		
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			So
		
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			that's that. And,
		
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			all I can say is if somebody doesn't
		
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			feel the pain and suffering in their heart,
		
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			whenever they hear of someone denigrating the prophet,
		
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			that person is but from a great portion
		
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			of iman. Because to stay sticks and stones
		
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			will, break my bones, but words will never
		
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			hurt me. The pope the pope even doesn't
		
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			accept that. So how can someone who believes
		
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			in Allah, his and
		
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			believes in the last day, how can they
		
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			accept that? So, I wanted to I wanted
		
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			to read uh-uh a,
		
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			excerpt from a Maliki Fatwa in the,
		
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			Al Ma'arib
		
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			from the, Qadi Abul Hasan Muqabisi,
		
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			who was asked a series of was asked
		
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			a series of questions.
		
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			Sorry. Nan Takadi, he was sheikh Abu Hasan
		
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			al Qabi, see one of the fuqaha of
		
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			the of of of the western Arab lands.
		
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			His, Fatawah appear in the mayor al Mu'rab,
		
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			a canonical collection of Fatawah and, court verdicts.
		
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			In response to
		
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			a judge,
		
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			to whom
		
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			a man who cursed the prophet
		
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			has brought, and the testimony is
		
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			rendered against him in a way that that
		
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			proves, that he he did curse the prophet
		
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			and then that judge instead of,
		
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			instead of giving the,
		
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			giving the verdict that he was supposed to,
		
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			he said, just take him to the Amir
		
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			and have the Amir deal with him. You
		
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			know, have the Amir decide his case, meaning,
		
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			essentially, absconding on his case. And so he
		
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			talks about, you know, he talks about, you
		
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			know, what the details, you know, in which
		
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			situations is that appropriate, in which situations is
		
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			it not appropriate, what should happen,
		
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			when the case actually gets to the emir,
		
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			etcetera. So in his kalam, in his in
		
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			his words in this verdict,
		
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			he he writes,
		
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			so he mentions that that the when, you
		
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			know and it's interesting because
		
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			the from the from the the the text
		
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			of this hookah,
		
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			this judge himself realizes how precarious the situation
		
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			is that
		
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			a man should be killed just for his
		
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			words.
		
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			And,
		
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			he he, in some ways, seems to sympathize
		
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			with this that it's difficult for him to,
		
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			execute such a, such a verdict.
		
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			And,
		
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			he says that but let that let that
		
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			judge and let those people who carry this
		
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			case,
		
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			seek help,
		
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			in in in implementing their verdict,
		
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			through every person who,
		
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			wishes to have the shafa, the intercession of
		
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			this,
		
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			unlettered prophet, the seal of the prophets, Muhammad,
		
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			the messenger of the Lord of the worlds
		
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			to all,
		
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			of mankind
		
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			who has a mercy to the world. Because
		
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			he says that the Ummah, there's no life
		
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			left in the Ummah, and there's no good
		
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			left in it,
		
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			to exist,
		
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			in a world in which,
		
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			it's Nabi is cursed and there's nobody who
		
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			even gets upset about that. And he he
		
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			seeks refuge in Allah Ta'ala from
		
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			ever, ever being alive and having to witness
		
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			such an age that, is struck with such
		
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			a tribulation.
		
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			And I read this the first time I
		
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			almost wept because I said, look at these
		
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			pious people,
		
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			They made this Dua and it was answered.
		
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			And we made this Dua and Allah has
		
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			chosen
		
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			for us to have to see and witness
		
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			this age. So I say I bear witness
		
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			to you that anybody who doesn't get upset
		
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			and angry about the prophet sallallahu alaihi wa
		
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			sallam being cursed, They may be a very
		
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			good citizen and they may, you know, get
		
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			get a lot of,
		
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			Shabashes and be lauded on the Huffington Post
		
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			or God knows what. But,
		
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			but there's no there's no iman in in
		
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			in such a person. There's no in such
		
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			a person. There's no good in such a
		
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			person. And he actually gives,
		
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			you know, near the end of the same
		
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			fatwa,
		
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			he gives he gives,
		
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			words of tashjiah, of encouragement.
		
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			He
		
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			and and he says that, once the the
		
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			case is is proven,
		
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			then it gets to those people who are,
		
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			who are
		
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			responsible for,
		
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			for for
		
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			for carrying out,
		
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			for carrying out the due,
		
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			process after such a case is established.
		
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			Then he
		
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			quotes the book of Allah Ta'ala.
		
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			Remember that Allah Ta'ala is able to do
		
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			all things.
		
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			That, nothing will overwhelm Allah Ta'ala neither in
		
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			the heavens nor in the earth, and he
		
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			has all knowledge and he has all ability.
		
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			And he said,
		
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			and Allah most high,
		
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			majestic is his mention.
		
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			Said,
		
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			So if Allah wished,
		
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			he would have, delivered his aid and his
		
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			victory,
		
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			against the enemy against their enemies. But Allah
		
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			wishes to test some of you with others.
		
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			And it says that, no, that there there
		
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			were those who were tested,
		
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			in the past who were put through tribulation,
		
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			with a tribulation like this,
		
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			and they were they were unable to they
		
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			were unable to
		
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			find help in order to,
		
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			in order to implement
		
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			what was said
		
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			and we we seek our help from Allah
		
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			So he ends the the the the
		
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			the the the the job there. So the
		
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			idea is this is an anyone who says
		
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			that, you know, this is not part of
		
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			our this is not part of our tradition.
		
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			Such and such a person is,
		
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			either speaking from ignorance or lying through their
		
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			teeth. It is part of our tradition,
		
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			and,
		
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			it you know, we we we believe in
		
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			it. Now what does that mean for you
		
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			and me?
		
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			Does that mean that every anytime someone,
		
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			says something, you know,
		
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			disrespectful about the prophet, sallallahu, sallam, if we
		
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			have imam, we're just gonna go kill him
		
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			or her. Absolutely not. In fact, the the
		
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			siyak of the the the fatwa is such
		
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			that the only person who can who has
		
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			a prerogative to implement
		
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			such a, implement such a punishment
		
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			is the person who's invested with sovereign authority
		
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			on behalf of
		
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			on behalf of sovereign power.
		
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			And, that's why
		
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			that's why, Abu Hassan al Qabisi was
		
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			saying what he said about such a judge,
		
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			that that person was vested with sovereign authority,
		
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			and he weaseled out of wielding it properly.
		
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			And such a person at such a time
		
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			should not be weak, rather they should seek
		
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			help from,
		
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			from those who believe in Allah and his
		
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			Rasool, sallallahu alaihi wa sallam, and seek assistance
		
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			through Allah
		
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			and trust in him in in carrying out
		
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			the execution.
		
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			As opposed to somebody who's not in sovereign
		
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			authority. We in the in the in living
		
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			as minorities in lands that are not ruled
		
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			by the Sharia, we're not in sovereign authority.
		
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			And, those who live in the Muslim lands
		
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			but aren't judges or, you know,
		
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			officially,
		
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			deputed by the, government in order to enforce
		
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			the law. You're not the sovereign authority. So
		
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			you can't just go and kill people
		
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			or destroy property or make a mess out
		
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			of things, which is exactly what, unfortunately
		
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			unfortunately, a number of people
		
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			in, Pakistan have been doing, which is rioting,
		
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			looting,
		
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			rampaging,
		
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			causing harm to others. In some cases, possibly
		
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			even killing people and assassinating people, possibly even
		
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			making against
		
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			people, saying anathematizing
		
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			and saying that people aren't Muslims. Why?
		
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			Because they don't hold the opinion that the
		
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			non Muslim dhimmi who curses the prophet sallallahu
		
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			alaihi wasallam
		
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			is,
		
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			subject to
		
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			a mandatory death sentence without
		
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			the possibility
		
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			of of recanting and forgiveness.
		
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			And,
		
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			look, I don't even I don't even subscribe
		
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			to the school that says that nor do
		
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			the the does the majoritarian opinion nor does
		
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			the president of the sub sub continent subscribe
		
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			to that school. But it is a valid
		
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			school from amongst the people of the Sunnah.
		
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			And, to say that somebody who holds a
		
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			different opinion,
		
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			from the valid opinions of the sunnah is
		
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			a kafir for holding such an opinion is
		
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			obviously a very dimwitted take, and it is,
		
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			it is not, the way of
		
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			the, and it is, not sound methodology neither
		
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			in
		
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			nor in,
		
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			nor
		
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			in nor in fiqh.
		
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			And that's exactly what's happening over there,
		
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			in Pakistan is that there are groups of
		
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			people who claim to be lovers and are
		
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			shocked of the Rasool
		
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			and,
		
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			they're just going on
		
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			a they're going on a vigilante rampage, destroying
		
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			property,
		
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			possibly killing people, calling for the blood of
		
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			people, making Takfir of different people. Why?
		
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			Because they,
		
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			they, I guess, ostensibly just don't agree with
		
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			their opinion,
		
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			in regards to this matter. I guess,
		
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			a great number of the the the great
		
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			folkaha of the Hanafi Madhab didn't agree with
		
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			you. And, you know, I don't I I
		
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			like I said, I don't even agree with
		
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			their their their opinion. However,
		
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			to say that they don't have the right
		
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			to have it or that whoever holds that
		
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			opinion is
		
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			somehow in manifest error.
		
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			This is this is,
		
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			this is itself a a manifest error.
		
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			And, you know, there's there's a lot of
		
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			problem
		
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			going on. First of all, this case of
		
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			of of this woman
		
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			is, you know, was the the testimony against
		
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			her,
		
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			was it correct or not, or was it
		
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			taken from the coercion of a mob?
		
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			You know, did she really, you know, what
		
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			were the exact words that she,
		
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			that she used against the prophet
		
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			even if it's if it's you know
		
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			if it's if it's
		
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			established that she said something against and that
		
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			was it Shatham or was it just her
		
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			expressing her,
		
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			Christian beliefs,
		
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			and, you know, what's the line between the
		
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			two of them? And what's the intention of
		
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			the law? And this is something really important
		
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			for people to understand. Look. Pakistan is not
		
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			Pakistan I mean, it's a nation state that
		
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			definitely weaves a mythology of being established on,
		
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			on on Islam and for Islam, etcetera, etcetera.
		
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			But, like, you know, the reality is is
		
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			it's somewhat of a chimeric freak,
		
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			in the sense that,
		
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			many of the laws that are on the
		
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			books and the mechanisms for enforcing those laws,
		
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			are not native to the Sharia. Rather, they're
		
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			native to European not even European, to to
		
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			British common law.
		
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			And so
		
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			in Islamic law, the
		
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			Mujtahid. The Qadi is a Mujtahid. He's neither,
		
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			neither,
		
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			forced to or required to,
		
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			make taqlid, following a particular madhab nor is
		
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			he allowed to. Rather, every verdict that he
		
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			gives, he has to be a and he
		
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			has to look at the circumstances
		
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			and at the sources of Deen
		
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			and put them together in order to craft
		
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			a unique verdict
		
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			or ruling in every case,
		
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			which is,
		
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			not from Taqleel, not from following someone else's
		
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			scholarship,
		
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			but,
		
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			you know, based on his own
		
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			learning as a as a as a master
		
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			of the Sharia,
		
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			and as a pure expression of what the
		
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			ruling of Allah and his rasul sallallahu alaihi
		
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			wa sallam in a particular case is. Which
		
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			means what? Which means that the Qadi actually
		
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			has purview to look at circumstances
		
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			and give different,
		
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			different rulings in different cases.
		
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			And so you have to ask yourself as
		
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			a,
		
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			you know, is the reason that that that,
		
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			you know, that the the the ruling of
		
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			is handed down of death. His descendants of
		
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			death is handed down in
		
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			the cursing of the the the prophet
		
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			is the reason of it to
		
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			settle the squabbles of,
		
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			illiterate,
		
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			farm women in in in their weird cast,
		
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			in their little cast squabbles with one another
		
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			over who drink from what glass of water?
		
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			Or is it in order to protect and
		
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			establish the honor of the prophet that,
		
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			he shouldn't be ridiculed to the point where
		
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			people,
		
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			lose respect for the mention of his name,
		
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			amongst the the the Muslims and amongst their
		
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			sovereign,
		
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			their their sovereign, governments and their civilizations.
		
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			And and that question, Akadi not only is
		
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			allowed to, Akadi is obliged to ask that
		
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			question.
		
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			And he can give a ruling according to
		
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			his in that situation that's not bound to
		
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			any madhab. Rather, he can give any of
		
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			their either of those two rulings, whichever would
		
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			be more appropriate. And I would suggest without
		
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			myself being a Mujtahhid or being, worthy of
		
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			being the qadi, the judge, that perhaps it's
		
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			possible in such a case where this, woman
		
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			who's probably illiterate,
		
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			and and and she got into a fight
		
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			with these other illiterate women over something which
		
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			is a vest vestige from the days of
		
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			Jahiliya
		
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			and otherwise has no record of anti,
		
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			Islam or anti Rasulullah sallallahu alaihi wa sallam
		
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			animus,
		
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			that as a Qadi, if there was actually
		
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			a Sharia court,
		
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			there, the Qadi would have taken care of
		
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			this case before it became
		
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			famous and well known and in the 4,
		
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			corners of the Earth. I know the Earth
		
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			doesn't have corners. It's just an expression. But
		
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			they would have taken care of this case
		
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			and ended it before then without anyone having
		
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			to be killed or whatever. It would have
		
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			just been settled with some sort of hikmah.
		
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			But
		
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			what do we have? We don't have a
		
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			a a Sharia court with a Qadi.
		
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			We have a western court that doesn't function
		
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			on Ijtihad.
		
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			Rather, the judge is a glorified magistrate,
		
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			and the judge is not somebody who looks
		
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			at the law holistically
		
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			in in a in in a in in
		
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			a British court. Rather,
		
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			the the the law is dictated to the
		
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			judge,
		
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			and the judge is obliged to dispassionately
		
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			put on the blindfold
		
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			and,
		
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			way, has this law been broken? Yes or
		
00:43:07 --> 00:43:08
			no? And then
		
00:43:09 --> 00:43:10
			very mechanistically
		
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			throw out,
		
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			throw out a response. And, you know, the
		
00:43:14 --> 00:43:16
			problem with with dispassionately
		
00:43:16 --> 00:43:18
			doing things is good because you're, you know,
		
00:43:18 --> 00:43:21
			you're not, you know, you preclude or reduce
		
00:43:21 --> 00:43:22
			the amount of possibility for,
		
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			for being inconsistent in the application of the
		
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			law or being unfair. But the problem is
		
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			this, when you have blindfold on, you can't
		
00:43:29 --> 00:43:30
			see what's going on around you.
		
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			And so, you know, you will meet out
		
00:43:33 --> 00:43:35
			the letter of the law with a great
		
00:43:35 --> 00:43:37
			amount of efficiency, but the spirit of the
		
00:43:37 --> 00:43:39
			law is essentially a a, you know, collateral
		
00:43:39 --> 00:43:41
			damage in that whole process.
		
00:43:41 --> 00:43:43
			And so you have this, you know, these
		
00:43:43 --> 00:43:44
			judges
		
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			that are Western trained, Western system, Western,
		
00:43:49 --> 00:43:50
			when I say Western, I mean literally like
		
00:43:50 --> 00:43:51
			British judges
		
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			enforcing,
		
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			laws that are, you know, interpreted through the
		
00:43:55 --> 00:43:57
			lens of the British common law.
		
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			Essentially now
		
00:44:00 --> 00:44:03
			forcing this legitimate law, the Sharia, in a
		
00:44:03 --> 00:44:05
			case that it may not even be appropriate
		
00:44:05 --> 00:44:07
			for, and it may actually be a.
		
00:44:08 --> 00:44:10
			And the fact that the law is written
		
00:44:10 --> 00:44:10
			so well,
		
00:44:11 --> 00:44:14
			from one point of view, doesn't allow the
		
00:44:14 --> 00:44:16
			judge to consider that there are different points
		
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			of view
		
00:44:17 --> 00:44:19
			with regards to this law that that, that
		
00:44:19 --> 00:44:20
			that the subcontinental
		
00:44:21 --> 00:44:22
			tradition and the Maliki tradition,
		
00:44:23 --> 00:44:24
			is not the only tradition.
		
00:44:25 --> 00:44:25
			So either
		
00:44:26 --> 00:44:27
			you have 2 you know, you have a
		
00:44:27 --> 00:44:29
			false binary. Now you have a whole country
		
00:44:29 --> 00:44:31
			that's, like, upset and a whole Muslim world
		
00:44:31 --> 00:44:33
			and whole world in general that's upset with
		
00:44:33 --> 00:44:35
			this false binary. You have 2 choices. Either
		
00:44:35 --> 00:44:37
			you throw away the blasphemy law and let
		
00:44:37 --> 00:44:40
			every idiot crow on the corner, whatever their
		
00:44:40 --> 00:44:41
			stupid ideas are with regards to Allah and
		
00:44:41 --> 00:44:45
			his Rasool, Sallallahu Alaihi Wasallam, thereby undermining the,
		
00:44:45 --> 00:44:46
			entire,
		
00:44:46 --> 00:44:49
			fabric of the state. And, you know, the
		
00:44:49 --> 00:44:51
			thing is that the the Muslims have a
		
00:44:51 --> 00:44:53
			mandate to rule according to what they see
		
00:44:53 --> 00:44:55
			as best, and Muslims see Islam as best.
		
00:44:55 --> 00:44:56
			So he said, no. No. No. You cannot
		
00:44:56 --> 00:44:58
			rule according to Islam because of this one
		
00:44:58 --> 00:44:59
			issue that,
		
00:45:00 --> 00:45:03
			that's been muddied up because of poor administrative
		
00:45:03 --> 00:45:04
			execution.
		
00:45:04 --> 00:45:06
			Or on the flip side, you have this,
		
00:45:06 --> 00:45:08
			gang of, like, Labekh Arasulat
		
00:45:09 --> 00:45:10
			dudes that are, like,
		
00:45:10 --> 00:45:11
			just going around,
		
00:45:12 --> 00:45:15
			essentially making Takfir of everybody and killing everybody.
		
00:45:15 --> 00:45:16
			And all of them, the fact that they're
		
00:45:16 --> 00:45:19
			Sufis and they carry, Tasbes in their hands,
		
00:45:19 --> 00:45:22
			are not stopping them from essentially acting like
		
00:45:22 --> 00:45:23
			ISIS. I mean, Takfir of the prime minister,
		
00:45:23 --> 00:45:25
			I mean Takfir of Olamada don't agree with
		
00:45:25 --> 00:45:27
			them, or Meng Takfir of Olamada may even
		
00:45:27 --> 00:45:29
			actually agree with them,
		
00:45:30 --> 00:45:32
			but are politically allied with the prime minister.
		
00:45:32 --> 00:45:33
			So it's kinda like tech fear by association
		
00:45:34 --> 00:45:34
			or by contagion,
		
00:45:35 --> 00:45:38
			but they're going about, making tech fear of
		
00:45:38 --> 00:45:40
			other people all on a case in which
		
00:45:40 --> 00:45:42
			it's not even established properly whether or not
		
00:45:42 --> 00:45:43
			shut them of the prophet
		
00:45:44 --> 00:45:46
			was made. And even if it was, it
		
00:45:46 --> 00:45:47
			it should be clear to people that the
		
00:45:47 --> 00:45:49
			context of it is not,
		
00:45:49 --> 00:45:51
			the deliberate undermining of,
		
00:45:52 --> 00:45:54
			of the civilization of the Muslims, but something
		
00:45:54 --> 00:45:55
			that happened in a, essentially,
		
00:45:56 --> 00:45:57
			spat of Jahiliya,
		
00:45:57 --> 00:45:59
			a spat of, like,
		
00:46:00 --> 00:46:02
			the bad practice of cultural Hinduism by by,
		
00:46:03 --> 00:46:05
			2 groups, 1 Christian and 1 Muslim, which
		
00:46:05 --> 00:46:07
			makes the entire thing so nonsensical and have
		
00:46:07 --> 00:46:09
			so many layers of nonsense.
		
00:46:09 --> 00:46:11
			And my wish would be that that that
		
00:46:11 --> 00:46:12
			the the Ulema and the subcontinent
		
00:46:13 --> 00:46:13
			would
		
00:46:14 --> 00:46:16
			speak with clarity about this issue, but I
		
00:46:16 --> 00:46:18
			feel like there's a sensitivity. They know that
		
00:46:18 --> 00:46:20
			this case is not a 100% right, but
		
00:46:20 --> 00:46:22
			they don't want to admit that that
		
00:46:22 --> 00:46:24
			there's there is leeway for the judge to
		
00:46:24 --> 00:46:27
			forgive such cases because they're afraid that,
		
00:46:27 --> 00:46:29
			Allah knows best, but it it seems to
		
00:46:29 --> 00:46:31
			me that they're afraid that perhaps if they
		
00:46:31 --> 00:46:33
			let that cat out of the bag, then,
		
00:46:34 --> 00:46:35
			the the type of political,
		
00:46:37 --> 00:46:38
			the type of political
		
00:46:39 --> 00:46:39
			or
		
00:46:40 --> 00:46:40
			deterrent,
		
00:46:41 --> 00:46:43
			for people saying something ill about the prophet,
		
00:46:43 --> 00:46:45
			sallallahu alaihi wasallam. Perhaps they're afraid that that's
		
00:46:45 --> 00:46:47
			gonna that's gonna leave. The problem is now,
		
00:46:47 --> 00:46:49
			Islam is being bandied around as,
		
00:46:50 --> 00:46:51
			as,
		
00:46:51 --> 00:46:52
			as barbaric.
		
00:46:53 --> 00:46:55
			And I really don't care, honestly, like, what
		
00:46:55 --> 00:46:57
			a non Muslim thinks about Islam.
		
00:46:57 --> 00:47:00
			I mean, I care about my non Muslim
		
00:47:00 --> 00:47:00
			friends and neighbors,
		
00:47:01 --> 00:47:03
			that their rights should be observed and that
		
00:47:03 --> 00:47:05
			we should treat our neighbors well, and we
		
00:47:05 --> 00:47:07
			should be good to them, and we should
		
00:47:07 --> 00:47:09
			render their rights to them, and we should
		
00:47:09 --> 00:47:11
			be above their rights, be good as good
		
00:47:11 --> 00:47:13
			to them as as as we can. That
		
00:47:13 --> 00:47:15
			part I care about. I don't care about
		
00:47:15 --> 00:47:16
			whether or not they, you know, what their
		
00:47:16 --> 00:47:18
			what their feelings about Islam are.
		
00:47:19 --> 00:47:20
			You know, if they accepted it, they would
		
00:47:20 --> 00:47:22
			have been Muslims anyway. So, you know, just
		
00:47:22 --> 00:47:23
			like,
		
00:47:25 --> 00:47:26
			just like, I wouldn't want them to, like,
		
00:47:26 --> 00:47:28
			hate me because I believe something. I just
		
00:47:28 --> 00:47:29
			what their thoughts
		
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			and, you know, what are their thoughts or
		
00:47:32 --> 00:47:34
			their ideas about Islam are. They just really
		
00:47:34 --> 00:47:35
			they don't they don't bother me all that
		
00:47:35 --> 00:47:38
			much. What bothers me is what? Is that
		
00:47:38 --> 00:47:40
			that because the media, which is an arm
		
00:47:40 --> 00:47:42
			of a soft arm of power,
		
00:47:42 --> 00:47:44
			of this kind of postmodern
		
00:47:44 --> 00:47:45
			liberal,
		
00:47:45 --> 00:47:48
			hegemony that that certain countries
		
00:47:48 --> 00:47:49
			have imposed upon the world.
		
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			They're using it as a way to convince
		
00:47:53 --> 00:47:55
			Muslims that somehow there's something wrong with Islam,
		
00:47:55 --> 00:47:58
			and many Muslims are really genuinely
		
00:47:58 --> 00:47:59
			in, in doubt,
		
00:48:00 --> 00:48:03
			with regards to that insinuation because the abject
		
00:48:03 --> 00:48:05
			murkiness of this this case
		
00:48:06 --> 00:48:09
			and the sheer, like, number of, like, layers
		
00:48:09 --> 00:48:10
			of of just nonsensicalness
		
00:48:11 --> 00:48:13
			in this case. And somehow, the blame of
		
00:48:13 --> 00:48:14
			all of it is being heaped on Islam,
		
00:48:15 --> 00:48:16
			even though,
		
00:48:16 --> 00:48:17
			colonialism,
		
00:48:17 --> 00:48:19
			the leg legacy of colonialism,
		
00:48:20 --> 00:48:21
			and the legacy of,
		
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			of essentially,
		
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			a post colonial puppet state
		
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			that bandies around as, you know, God's, representative
		
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			of his religion on the earth where it's,
		
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			you know, it is a Muslim country, and
		
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			there's a lot of good in it even
		
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			for Islam, but it's definitely not,
		
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			you know, whatever the ideal, state that it
		
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			claims to be that people say Pakistan.
		
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			That was the meaning of Pakistan.
		
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			Well, you know, we have to have a
		
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			little bit of of
		
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			of of humility when we say stuff like
		
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			that. I know Pakistanis don't like to hear
		
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			that, because they're patriotic fervor. I myself am
		
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			a Pakistani origin. The thing is this, if
		
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			Pakistan means,
		
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			as I once asked my father,
		
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			who was not happy that I said this,
		
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			I said, if Pakistan means,
		
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			what does it mean that you left it
		
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			and that you immigrated away from the United
		
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			States? What does that mean?
		
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			The fact of the matter is Pakistan, like
		
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			all other fallible entities in this world, makes
		
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			make mistakes. And so it shouldn't
		
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			look at itself as being this infallible,
		
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			manifestation of god's will on the earth,
		
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			and nor should others judge Islam based on
		
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			it because there's nobody who's the infallible
		
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			manifestation of god's will on the earth after
		
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			the messenger of Allah
		
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			Salam.
		
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			And so,
		
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			and no community has the right to that
		
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			mantle except for the totality of the Ummah.
		
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			That in the totality of the Ummah, at
		
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			any given time, at least somebody is going
		
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			to be on guidance.
		
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			So that doesn't even mean that the totality
		
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			of the Ummah has that mantle, but in
		
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			the totality of the Ummah, some part of
		
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			it has the mantle for for for some
		
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			part of,
		
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			for some part of the deen at all
		
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			times that between them you can reconstruct
		
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			at any given time a complete Islam.
		
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			But, you know,
		
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			a lot of these these these issues that
		
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			boil down to stuff that has nothing to
		
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			do with Islam. Now all of the the
		
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			burden and the the guilt for all of
		
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			that wrongness is being heaped on the deen,
		
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			and it's causing people to doubt their own
		
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			deen and want to change it into something
		
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			that it isn't. And I'll tell you,
		
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			the idea that that, society is there where
		
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			where,
		
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			the one that Allah sent
		
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			as a mercy to the world and as
		
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			the only source of
		
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			deliverance and salvation on the day of judgment,
		
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			through his teachings and through his Shafa'a, through
		
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			his intercession,
		
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			for us to say open season, anyone can
		
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			say whatever they want to about him despite
		
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			the fact that it's, you know, you're gonna
		
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			go to jail, and you're gonna be punished
		
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			for screaming fire in a theater, and you're
		
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			gonna be taken to jail for saying that
		
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			I'm gonna beat you up to a person,
		
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			or you're gonna be taken to jail, in
		
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			some cases, for denying the holocaust and all
		
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			these things. And no one should do any
		
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			of those things. But I'm saying if those
		
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			types of speech are protected, but somehow the
		
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			foundation of our life in this world and
		
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			the hereafter as Muslims is not going to
		
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			be protected in a Muslim majority country. That's
		
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			that's just ridiculous and unreasonable.
		
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			And so may Allah
		
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			give all of us tawfiq to,
		
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			you know, to to be able to think
		
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			through these issues clearly and to see them
		
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			clearly with a level head. Love of the
		
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			prophet sallallahu alaihi wasallam doesn't equal acting irrationally.
		
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			Love doesn't equal acting irrationally until until or
		
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			unless you are already mentally incapacitated in the
		
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			first place. In which case,
		
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			we will institutionalize
		
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			you, and we will love you and take
		
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			care of you and give you the help
		
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			that you so richly need.
		
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			But we're not going to look at you
		
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			as a model for what we, consider to
		
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			be Dean.
		
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			And,
		
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			on the flip side,
		
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			because such people exist, we're not gonna say,
		
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			oh, look. You know, anyone can say anything
		
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			that they want to,
		
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			at any time because truly nobody believes in
		
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			that. Not even
		
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			a secular liberal democracy believe believe in a
		
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			type of absolute freedom of speech.
		
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			And, and we're not going to blame these
		
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			issues that are human issues
		
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			that have to
		
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			do with colonization and nationalism and all these
		
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			other, you know, cast, you know, cast,
		
00:52:10 --> 00:52:11
			rivalries and cast
		
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			mutual hatreds and all these other things. We're
		
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			not going to we're not gonna put that
		
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			on on on on Islam. They're not part
		
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			of Islam, and they're not Islam's fault. And
		
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			if we practice our Islam well, hopefully, we
		
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			can try to work through those things and
		
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			get beyond them. But they're not they're not
		
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			what the deen is. Allah give all of
		
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			us so much and
		
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			may
		
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			Allah protect us by not putting our fitna
		
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			in our deen. And may Allah protect,
		
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			the Muslim lands,
		
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			from such types of strife,
		
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			that that people should get to, you know,
		
00:52:43 --> 00:52:44
			fervor, pitch fervor,
		
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			where they cannot find solutions to their problems
		
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			and they resort to violence and things like
		
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			that. Allah protect us from those things and
		
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			give stability and peace and calm,
		
00:52:53 --> 00:52:55
			to the Muslim lands and give people
		
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			a a a type of respect and honor
		
00:52:57 --> 00:53:00
			to the sanctity of human life and safety
		
00:53:00 --> 00:53:01
			that has hitherto been,
		
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			unfortunately
		
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			and depressingly elusive,
		
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			for the last, several centuries.
		
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			Give all of that
		
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			to the people in the Muslim lands. And
		
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			Allah protect us wherever we are. We're in
		
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			America. Allah protect this land also and give
		
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			it safety and peace in amen.
		
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			Because in that amen, in that safety, and
		
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			in that peace, people, can see the beauty
		
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			of Islam, and it can spread to people
		
00:53:25 --> 00:53:27
			as well. And if, you know, if it
		
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			spreads to them, great. And if it doesn't
		
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			still, you know, we pray for peace and
		
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			safety wherever we are for ourselves and for
		
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			our neighbors.
		
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			Protect inside of our hearts. Whether we live
		
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			in the Muslim lands or not, the,
		
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			realities all of us are going to die
		
00:53:43 --> 00:53:45
			one day, and all of these feuds and
		
00:53:45 --> 00:53:47
			disputes and fights and
		
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			PR, Vectiv, media,
		
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			etcetera. All these things are gonna end, and
		
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			we're going to all have to give answer
		
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			in front of our lord to what we
		
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			did with our lives. And the only thing
		
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			that's gonna, that's going to buy us salvation
		
00:53:58 --> 00:54:00
			on that day is Iman, is faith. So
		
00:54:00 --> 00:54:01
			Allah to have fought safe the reality of
		
00:54:01 --> 00:54:03
			that faith inside of our heart that we
		
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			never leave it or abandon it or compromise
		
00:54:06 --> 00:54:08
			it for anybody to make anybody happy. That
		
00:54:08 --> 00:54:10
			we prioritize the happiness of the lord and
		
00:54:10 --> 00:54:13
			the creator over the happiness of the creation.
		
00:54:13 --> 00:54:15
			Allah protect us iman in all of our
		
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			hearts whether we live here or there or
		
00:54:17 --> 00:54:17
			wherever,
		
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			we live in. Allah give it to our
		
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			friends and neighbors who live around us as
		
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			a,
		
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			as a gift for their and their goodness
		
00:54:24 --> 00:54:25
			toward us,
		
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			in this life. And may Allah give all
		
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			of us the tawfeeq of saying
		
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			My humble request that I made from before
		
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			I make it again that when you see
		
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			the the Ummah going through these difficulties
		
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			that we all look,
		
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			face the
		
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			and make and make toward Allah, our concentration
		
00:54:46 --> 00:54:47
			focus toward Allah,
		
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			and we turn to him in repentance,
		
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			and we
		
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			cry out the prophetic cry of
		
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			There's no god except for you.
		
00:55:00 --> 00:55:02
			Glory be to you, exalted. Are you over
		
00:55:02 --> 00:55:03
			all other things in your perfection?
		
00:55:04 --> 00:55:06
			Indeed, I was one of the transgressors,
		
00:55:06 --> 00:55:09
			which is the cry of, Sedna Yunus
		
00:55:09 --> 00:55:10
			Jonah,
		
00:55:10 --> 00:55:13
			alayhis salaam, from the belly of the the
		
00:55:13 --> 00:55:13
			whale,
		
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			through which he attracted the
		
00:55:17 --> 00:55:18
			the the the divine aid,
		
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			to get him out of tribulation and difficulty.
		
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			That we we do that also
		
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			for ourselves and for this that
		
00:55:26 --> 00:55:27
			we call upon him so that
		
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			the and the concentrations of his mercy and
		
00:55:30 --> 00:55:31
			his deliverance
		
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			and his salvation in this world and the
		
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			hereafter,
		
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			should should should touch and honor,
		
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			every,
		
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			forehead of of every every believer in this
		
00:55:40 --> 00:55:40
			world.
		
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			And in the hereafter as well that that
		
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			when these overwhelming types of situations happen and
		
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			Pakistan is by far not the only place
		
00:55:48 --> 00:55:49
			that's going through difficulty.
		
00:55:49 --> 00:55:52
			Our brothers and sisters in in in in
		
00:55:52 --> 00:55:53
			in in Turkestan,
		
00:55:53 --> 00:55:55
			what the Chinese call Xinjiang that we were
		
00:55:56 --> 00:55:58
			speaking, brothers and sisters are going through difficulty.
		
00:55:58 --> 00:56:00
			Our brothers and sisters in Burma
		
00:56:00 --> 00:56:03
			and and Bangladesh and in India, where, you
		
00:56:03 --> 00:56:03
			know,
		
00:56:04 --> 00:56:06
			you know, one, Christian woman is,
		
00:56:08 --> 00:56:10
			even if it's dubiously, but she's accused of
		
00:56:10 --> 00:56:12
			blasphemy, and her life is in danger, and
		
00:56:12 --> 00:56:14
			the entire world erupts into chaos. Our brothers
		
00:56:14 --> 00:56:17
			and sisters in India are getting, killed,
		
00:56:17 --> 00:56:20
			with impunity for the suspicion of eating beef,
		
00:56:20 --> 00:56:22
			and, it seems that nobody cares.
		
00:56:22 --> 00:56:24
			Burma, they're killed for being Muslims. It seems
		
00:56:24 --> 00:56:25
			that nobody cares,
		
00:56:26 --> 00:56:28
			what's happening in Syria, and Iraq, and Yemen.
		
00:56:28 --> 00:56:30
			Those are even more shameful because those killings
		
00:56:30 --> 00:56:32
			are happening at the hands of different Muslim
		
00:56:32 --> 00:56:33
			powers that are using
		
00:56:34 --> 00:56:35
			the the the poor
		
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			and the sincere and the humble people who
		
00:56:38 --> 00:56:38
			say
		
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			is their playground for their political
		
00:56:41 --> 00:56:43
			machinations against one another,
		
00:56:43 --> 00:56:44
			Syria
		
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			and Iraq and Yemen,
		
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			Egypt,
		
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			the Central African Republic, all of these places.
		
00:56:50 --> 00:56:52
			Allatah, wherever we know and we don't know,
		
00:56:52 --> 00:56:54
			wherever we named, we didn't named. And we
		
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			turn to allatahal in repentance and ask for
		
00:56:56 --> 00:56:57
			his divine aid,
		
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			that that that it should reach us like
		
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			the aid of Allah. Reached in
		
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			the in the belly of the will, and
		
00:57:03 --> 00:57:05
			it should redeem us in this world. And
		
00:57:05 --> 00:57:06
			it should redeem us in the here in
		
00:57:06 --> 00:57:07
			the hereafter,
		
00:57:07 --> 00:57:09
			on the day of judgment, a day where
		
00:57:09 --> 00:57:11
			entire nations will be thrown into the garbage
		
00:57:11 --> 00:57:12
			heap of the fire for their disbelief and
		
00:57:12 --> 00:57:15
			for their profligacy and for their sin and
		
00:57:15 --> 00:57:17
			for their transgression that Allah to Allah should
		
00:57:17 --> 00:57:18
			have mercy on us and save us on
		
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			that day.