Fahad Tasleem – Beauty & the Recognition of God

Fahad Tasleem
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The speakers discuss the physical meaning of beauty in evaluating "fit major" and "fit minor" concepts, as well as the cognitive biases that people are exposed to. They also touch on the natural world and its use in relation to emotions and the natural world. They stress the importance of understanding the physical meaning of beauty in relation to worship and love, and briefly touch on science and its limits. They briefly mention the use of science and its limits, but do not provide much context on these topics.

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			Salam Alaikum Warahmatullahi
Wabarakatuh Bismillah R Rahman
		
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			Rahim Al hamdu Lillahi Rabbil
Alameen wa salatu salam, ala
		
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			Rasulillah Karim and my bod. So
welcome to today's session
		
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			that is being brought to you by
Sapiens Institute. Today we're
		
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			going to be talking about a topic
that is very near and dear to me.
		
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			And the topic is Beauty and the
recognition of God. Now, as we get
		
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			started,
		
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			we want to talk a little bit about
the world that we live in. And
		
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			before I get to our first slide
here, one of the things that we
		
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			have to understand about, you
know, when we talk about topics
		
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			like beauty, and what we call more
like fit three topics, is that
		
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			they present a certain angle that
many times we don't think about,
		
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			because we live in a world that
is, perhaps some would say, overly
		
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			focused on rationality. And so
this topic, I think, what will
		
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			happen if you haven't seen it in
the past, that I think you may be
		
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			pleasantly surprised with the
information that we're going to be
		
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			presenting today, inshallah. So
with that said, let's go on to
		
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			start in earnest.
		
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			I want to start with us with this
with this particular tweet that
		
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			was sent out by Rick Enfield. And
he says that we're in a post truth
		
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			world with eroding trust and
accountability, It can't end well.
		
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			And now we want to ask the
question like, why would like why
		
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			would someone like Nick Enfield,
post a tweet, were saying that,
		
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			look, we're living in a world
that's post truth.
		
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			Because the reality is when we
start reflecting upon the world
		
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			that we live in, we see that the
the, the, the the things that are
		
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			happening around us, whether
that's in the political sphere,
		
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			whether that's in the social
sphere, economic sphere, there is
		
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			a lot of upheaval, when it comes
to the idea of truth. Okay, so
		
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			when we're talking about, let's
say, social media, you find that
		
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			across social media, there is a
type of mistrust. And because of
		
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			that mistrust, there are real
world consequences that come
		
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			about, okay, so that mistrust will
do what has to do with things like
		
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			not trusting the government, not
trusting scientists, not trusting
		
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			religious leaders, and so on and
so forth. So what Rick Enfield
		
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			here is highlighting is that we
live in a post truth world with
		
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			eroding trust and accountability,
It can't end well, because if we
		
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			continue down this path, and he's
thinking about this in terms of
		
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			like a, a global community, if we
go down this path, and there's no
		
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			trust in anything, it's going to
be very problematic. And we saw
		
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			some of the the ramifications of
that mistrust, at least locally
		
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			here in the US, when the Capitol
was stormed. And you found it
		
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			found that people were storming
the Capitol because they
		
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			mistrusted the electoral system
here in the US. Now, that's a real
		
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			world consequence, to some, to a
form of mistrust now.
		
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			So when we think about this, what
we find is that this mistrust has
		
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			proliferated in this day and age,
substantially more than ever has
		
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			before. Okay, and then has a lot
to do with the the internet
		
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			itself. There's a very good
documentary that I, you know, that
		
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			I saw recently on Netflix, I think
was called the, the, you know,
		
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			this the social order, the social
paradox or something like that.
		
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			And what they highlighted, is that
when a person gets online, and
		
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			many of us spend a lot of time
online, when a person gets online,
		
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			there are a team of engineers that
are behind the scenes that are,
		
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			you know, basically working with
algorithms taking in all the data
		
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			they've collected on you as an
individual. And by way of that
		
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			data, they are now you know,
feeding information to you as a
		
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			specific individual. In other
words, they make they make a,
		
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			what's kind of called an avatar, a
personality type or trait for you
		
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			as an individual. And then they
and then when you when you let's
		
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			say, search for something on
Google, the search isn't the same
		
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			across the board, rather, it's
curated for you individually. Now,
		
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			you may think, Okay, well, what's
wrong with that? Well, the problem
		
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			is, is that that is casting the
idea of something being
		
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			objectively true. It's casting
that aside, in the sense that if
		
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			you were to search like we haven't
in the slide here, climate change
		
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			is now based on all the algorithms
and everything and all the data
		
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			that's collecting about you. Your
Google search results come up as
		
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			climate change is a hoax. Climate
change is disrupting the planet.
		
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			Or it could come up as climate
change is the greatest threat.
		
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			Climate change is natural, all of
that. Now, who cares? Like, okay,
		
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			so now you've got all of this
information, they have all this
		
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			information on you. Is that for
your benefit as an individual? And
		
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			the answer is no, because the end
user is, in fact, not you. But
		
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			people that pay for the ads that
are able to fund the companies
		
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			like Google and Facebook, where
they can make money. So it's a
		
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			very materialistic goal at the
end. Now, this goal, because it's
		
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			based in this type of materialism,
you are not the end user. So your
		
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			idea of let me search for
something that is true. And let's
		
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			say objectively true,
		
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			or that's neutral, let's say that
you want to have a search term,
		
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			it's neutral just comes up, the
search items come up in some sort
		
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			of a neutral way, it doesn't
happen. Why is that? Well, because
		
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			an avatar of you is built and is
constructed based on all the
		
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			information. And therefore you and
perhaps your neighbor are getting
		
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			two different types of
information. Now, again, what we
		
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			see is that in that sort of
environment, you have a lot of
		
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			news that is false. And in fact,
there was a study done recently
		
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			from MIT. And they concluded that
false news travels six times
		
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			faster on Twitter than truthful
news. And that is phenomenal when
		
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			you think about it. Right? One of
the research quotes I have here
		
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			from the study is that accurate
stories rarely reach more than
		
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			1000 people get the most prominent
false news items routinely reach
		
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			between 1000 and 100,000. People.
Okay, so the world we live in, and
		
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			our sources of information, if
we're if we're spending a lot of
		
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			time online, there may be a
mistrust from the source that
		
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			we're getting the information
from, okay. And what we find, like
		
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			I've, like I've quoted in like,
like I have on the slide here,
		
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			that you look at people who study
societies, civilizations, and they
		
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			see this as a downward trajectory.
Because as people start to get
		
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			misinformation, and mistrust
starts to proliferate across
		
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			society, you find a breakdown of
society. And so like this article
		
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			in The Atlantic, the author Yoni
Applebaum, he mentioned, you know,
		
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			the title is captivating because
of how America ends. And in a
		
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			sense, he's saying, How does
Western civilization end because
		
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			of this proliferation of
misinformation, that is causing
		
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			people to mistrust various facets
of sources of information, right,
		
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			whether that be source of
information like scientists, and
		
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			to mistrust the entire scientific
enterprise, whether it has to do
		
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			with government, and mistrusting
local state national governments,
		
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			or that has to do with mistrusting
religion and religious leaders. So
		
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			across the board, if there is a
culture of mistrust, then it
		
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			becomes very difficult for society
to bind together. And you find
		
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			that this this is something that,
you know, authors like
		
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			journalists, like Yoni Applebaum
are mentioning that this is
		
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			something that can cause to a
breakdown of society at its core.
		
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			Now, you might be asking, Why have
I started with, you know, on a
		
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			topic on beauty? Why have I
started with all of this? All of
		
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			these concepts of mistrust?
Because the thing is, when people
		
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			when people think about the
information that they're getting,
		
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			people assume that they are able
to take in information in a
		
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			completely unbiased way,
generally, right? And more or
		
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			less, that may be true. But the
assumption and we've seen this
		
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			with the information that's
available online, and how online
		
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			activity and our engagement online
can actually have an influence on
		
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			how we think and the opinions we
form, we see that that idea of us
		
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			forming rational conclusions to
reach truth is impeded. Okay, and
		
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			so, based on you know, just what
we've presented so far, we find
		
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			that when someone wants to find
the truth about something, a
		
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			simple Google search won't lead to
the truth directly, because there
		
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			are a number of factors that one
needs to consider, you know, the
		
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			background of the engineers, what
is the what is the what is the
		
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			motivation of the search engine
you're using? What is the
		
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			motivation of Facebook, when
you're just, you know, perusing
		
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			through and looking for friends
that you haven't spoken to in a
		
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			while, like what are the
motivations behind all of these,
		
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			you know, all of these
		
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			Social media, you know, things
that we're engaged with. So, if
		
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			the idea is is that our
information can be tainted, and us
		
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			in order for us to reach truth, it
cannot be just a rational
		
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			endeavor, meaning we can't just
trust our own, you know, cognitive
		
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			sense to reach truth 100% of the
time, and I don't think anyone
		
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			even expects that. So with this,
		
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			you can say this depreciation of
the ability to to gain information
		
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			and see truth as truth. One of the
things that we understand, at
		
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			least from the Islamic framework,
is that the paths to truth are not
		
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			just rational. Now, notice that it
said not just rational, I'm not
		
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			saying that we're discounting
rationality altogether. But I'm
		
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			saying that there are paths to
truth, when we're thinking about
		
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			truth as being objective and being
true. If that's the case, then
		
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			there are paths or truth, that,
that there are paths of truth that
		
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			are that are not just limited to
the rational mind, right, and not
		
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			just information coming in, and so
on, so forth. So one of those
		
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			paths to truth. And this is what
the central thesis of this
		
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			particular session is, is beauty
and one's exposure to beauty. So
		
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			as you'll notice, the central
thesis is, the greater your
		
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			exposure to beauty, the greater
your ability to see truth as it
		
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			really is. In other words, when a
person what I'm what this what the
		
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			thesis is, is trying to focus on,
that when a person has exposure to
		
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			beauty, when they're able to
witness beauty, there's a certain
		
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			phenomenon where a person is able
to recognize something to be true.
		
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			Okay. Now, why am I stating that
this is like this is the central
		
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			thesis? Well, why do I say that
that's what we're going to be
		
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			discussing. As we move forward,
the greater your exposure to
		
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			beauty, the greater your ability
to see truth as it really is.
		
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			Okay. Let's start with.
		
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			Let's start with some basics about
yourself. Okay, so we talked about
		
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			social media, the mistrust of the
government, mistrust of
		
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			scientists, and so on and so
forth. And we may come back to
		
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			that in a second here. But let's
start with our very own selves. I
		
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			mean, you can definitely trust
yourself, right? I mean, you have
		
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			a first person experience, you
study things, you get you, you
		
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			have information that you're
you're taking in. And if that's
		
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			the case, you should be able to
make
		
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			rational conclusions based on true
information. That itself is true.
		
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			Well, let's dig down a little bit
deeper into that. All right. So
		
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			can you trust yourself? There was
a, there was a,
		
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			what you would call a
anthropologist, I think by name of
		
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			friends, Muller liar. And back in
the 1800s, and he came up with
		
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			this famous line, optical
illusion. Okay. Now, most people
		
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			when they see this, this this
diagram that you see on the slide,
		
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			they, they seem to look at the
line on the right, the one with
		
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			the with the, with the two lines
going out like a like a Y on the
		
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			top and the bottom, they see that
central line to be longer than the
		
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			line to the left the line that has
the the arrow type shape on both
		
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			ends. Now, that's what we see.
		
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			And the reality is that, in fact,
they're of equal length. Now this
		
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			optical illusion was quite
popular, starting from the time
		
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			when Frank Mulder, late Leia
introduced it, and this would be
		
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			introduced to people they would
see and they say, yes, most
		
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			people, and maybe you're looking
at and saying, Okay, well, I don't
		
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			see it, but you would be in the
minority. Right? Most people when
		
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			they see these lines, they it's to
them, it seems like the line on
		
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			the right is longer than the line
on the left. And in reality,
		
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			they're actually the same length.
Now, this kind of this optical
		
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			illusion was taken to be something
that was true across the board and
		
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			various factors when they were
studied.
		
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			They were they were attributed to
just a certain type of, let's say,
		
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			cognitive misstep in the brain.
But what happened was in the
		
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			1960s, the researchers broaden
their experimentation, because
		
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			what they realized is from the
1800s until the 1960s, all of the
		
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			people that were that these that
were shown this diagram in terms
		
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			of official research, were what
they call weird. Now you might be
		
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			wondering, what do you mean by
What do you mean by by by weird?
		
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			Like, how does that
		
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			What do you mean they're weird? So
what I mean by
		
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			weird is that cultural
psychologists, this is a term that
		
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			they used when they're trying to
categorize the group of people
		
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			that they are researching. Okay,
so cultural psychologists, they
		
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			use this acronym weird to mean
white,
		
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			educated, industrialized, rich and
democratic societies. So all the
		
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			people that have been exposed to
this, this particular optical
		
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			illusion, we're all weird based on
the acronym. So in the 1960s,
		
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			researchers decided to show this
very optical illusion to people
		
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			across the world. And they
gathered about 2000 people, and
		
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			they, they basically had them look
at, you know, had small samples
		
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			from each part of the world parts
from North Africa, you know, South
		
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			Asia, Southeast Asia, Australia,
etc. And what they found was very
		
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			fascinating, because what they
found in the 1960s study was that
		
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			many, many people did not see the
optical illusion at all. And that
		
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			a lot of that was based on the
geographical area that they were
		
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			coming from. So for instance,
		
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			when they looked at the small
samples from the suku tribes,
		
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			people in northern Angola, this is
a specific area that they had
		
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			gotten a sample a sample of people
to look at the optical illusion,
		
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			and the BT tries people from the
Ivory Coast, no one in that group
		
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			saw the lines as being different
or of different length. Now, when
		
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			this was quite surprising to the
researchers, because they started
		
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			to now wonder, why is it the case
that you wouldn't when your sample
		
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			group is weird, right? That
they're coming from the west,
		
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			they're educated, industrialized,
etc, that that most by and large
		
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			people from that, you know, that
section of society, that section
		
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			of that culture sees these lines
as being a different lens, yet,
		
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			people from those specific tribes
don't see the difference at all.
		
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			And so one of the the theories
that was presented was that it has
		
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			to do with our depth perception
based on the architecture that we
		
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			find ourselves in, right. So when
you think about the Western world,
		
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			or those places that have been
influenced by the Western world,
		
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			we find, especially in modernity,
right, when we think about
		
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			architecture, and many people say
that, you know that that that the
		
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			death of beauty happened with
modernity, specifically in the
		
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			realm of architecture, because
architecture started to map out
		
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			this worldview that had to do with
with giving preference to utility
		
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			over beauty. And so hence, when
you walk into a certain room
		
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			within the Western world, or those
countries that have been
		
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			influenced by the Western world,
you find Angular, straight
		
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			structures. And you'll look in the
diagram there, you see that those
		
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			angles, you say, wall a and wall
B, and they have certain angles,
		
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			lines are straight, walls are
straight, and everything is very
		
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			straight. And because they're
straight, you your mind then gives
		
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			you a certain type of depth
perception. So even when you see
		
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			the lines as a vacuum, without,
you know, seeing them as the
		
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			corners, two corners of a room,
and you sense that perception, you
		
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			see the lines as being of a
different length, because of that
		
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			sort of cognitive bias that you
have being brought up in the
		
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			western world or being brought up
in a part of the world that's
		
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			influenced by the West. Yet, when
the when, when, when the small
		
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			samples from the from the suku
tries people and the BT tries
		
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			people, when they were presented
with this, when they're presented
		
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			with an optical illusion, they saw
the lines as perfectly the same
		
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			length. And the theory was, was
that because when they looked at
		
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			where they were living, the
structures that they were living
		
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			in, so they were living in huts
that were round, they hadn't been
		
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			exposed to modernity, they hadn't
been exposed to these, you know,
		
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			Angular structures that, you know,
form part of the modern world,
		
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			definitely a part of that part of
the Western world. And because of
		
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			that, they were not exposed to the
same optical illusion that someone
		
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			living in those type of structures
would be exposed to. So the reason
		
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			I'm mentioning this study, is
because we have to ask ourselves,
		
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			that if it's true, that we know
that we can take in information,
		
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			is it that we can take in
information in a completely
		
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			unbiased way, when the reality is,
there are many cognitive biases
		
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			that were exposed to? And of
course, one may reason that we
		
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			know about these lines because of
information from other senses. So
		
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			yes, maybe optically, we have a
cognitive bias here. But we're
		
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			able to do away with that
cognitive bias by way of other
		
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			senses like measurements and
rulers and things like that.
		
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			And no doubt that's true. But the
reality is you still have an
		
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			initial cognitive bias. Whereas,
you know, the Sioux tribes, people
		
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			in the BD tribes, people don't
have the cognitive bias. So at
		
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			least we'd have to say, when it
comes to the question of, can we
		
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			trust ourselves, we can say, it's
not 100%, we're not, we cannot
		
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			trust ourselves 100% of the time,
we are going to have cognitive
		
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			limitations, there are going to be
cognitive biases, when we take in
		
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			information. And that is, you can
say, That's exacerbated when the
		
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			sheer you know, the sheer quantity
of information is so overbearing
		
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			like it is today, when, by the
fact that we have access to the
		
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			internet, which gives us such a
quantity of information that times
		
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			you know, pre modern people that
lived in in pre modernity or a pre
		
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			modern times, were never exposed
to that sheer quantity
		
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			information, it just means that
our cognitive biases are going to
		
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			be greater, just by the by the
fact that we have more
		
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			information. Okay. So we
understand that from at least to
		
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			some extent, we can't trust
ourselves. What about the idea
		
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			that, okay, if we have cognitive
biases, then perhaps what we can
		
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			do is one of the ways to expand
our cognitive limitations, is by
		
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			getting information from other
people, other sources, right? So
		
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			we may have certain limitations in
our knowledge, let's say in a
		
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			certain field, certain fields,
let's say biology, or medicine,
		
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			now, we have a certain limitation,
and yet we have the reality of
		
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			getting sick. And how do we extend
our cognitive limitation? Well, we
		
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			go to a doctor, and we put our
trust on that doctors knowledge.
		
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			And so therefore, we're in a
sense, extending our cognitive
		
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			limitation, by basically going to
the doctor asking the doctor
		
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			What's wrong, and we trust their
knowledge. And so our cognitive
		
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			biases or limitations, you can
say, we have we're trying to,
		
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			we're trying to do away with those
by trusting information from other
		
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			sources. Okay. And whether you
know, and a lot of and this is
		
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			true, no matter what, what what
sort of field that you're in,
		
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			because we, as even when we think
about ourselves as individuals, we
		
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			rely on testimonial knowledge, we
rely on the say so of others in
		
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			order to get information.
Otherwise, you would not find
		
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			progress. And I say that in with
inverted commas. You wouldn't find
		
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			technological and scientific
progress. If we just said, we're
		
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			only going to trust ourselves, a
we'd be we'd be headed, we would
		
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			have to deal with our own
cognitive biases. But be we would
		
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			have a cognitive limitation with
being I only trust information for
		
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			myself. And nobody functions like
that. All of us take in
		
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			information from other sources, in
order to expand our cognitive
		
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			limitations. But now here's the
thing. If we understand that we
		
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			have cognitive biases, the people
and the sources that we're taking
		
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			information from, they too
probably have cognitive biases. So
		
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			we find that the issue does not
necessarily get resolved, and
		
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			perhaps in certain cases may be
exacerbated. All right, so let me
		
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			give an example of what I mean Can
Can we trust others, and the fact
		
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			that they would have their own
cognitive biases. So what you see
		
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			on the screen now is a map of the
world. And typically, you know, if
		
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			you open any sort of book on
geography, this is the map that we
		
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			would be presented to you. So you
find you have North America being
		
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			on the top part of the map, you
have South America being on the
		
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			bottom part of the map, again, you
have Europe on the top part of the
		
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			map and Russia, Asia, China,
India, being north of the equator,
		
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			or parts of the north, the
Equator, and of course, Africa,
		
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			Australia, so on and so forth,
being south of the equator, or
		
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			being on the bottom part of the
map. Now, what I'd like us to do,
		
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			just for a few moments here, is to
focus on not the concept of north
		
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			and south in terms of global
positioning, but rather a
		
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			direction in other words, up and
down. Okay.
		
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			Now, here's the thing, that when
we look at the modern map, that
		
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			we'll look at the map today, this
map is actually traced back to the
		
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			to the Greek astronomer Ptolemy.
And what we find is that Ptolemy,
		
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			being an astronomer, drew the map
with Europe being on top. He's
		
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			Greek and so so one of the, you
know, when people who specialize
		
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			in Cartography or mapmaking, when
they analyzed kind of the history
		
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			of where we get the map of today,
they found that they traced it
		
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			back to Ptolemy more or less, and
they reason that why is it that
		
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			taller?
		
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			He placed Europe
		
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			on the top part of the map, and
placed kind of everything else, at
		
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			least at that time, you just had
Europe, Africa and parts of Asia,
		
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			and perhaps the Middle East. That
was kind of the known world at the
		
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			time that he placed those on the
bottom. Well, one of the one of
		
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			the, you know, one of the people
that that explored this area, one
		
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			of the cartographers, you know,
there's people who make maps and
		
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			study, you know, the construction
of maps, they linked this to the
		
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			idea to actually a theological
idea, right, that over time, well,
		
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			not necessarily just a theological
but a, a, an idea of based on
		
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			power dynamics, right. So if you
consider something to be higher,
		
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			to be better, right, so that on
top, that thing that's on top is
		
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			going to be better. Okay. So, from
that perspective, if you're going
		
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			to draw a map, and you're going to
draw your place of residence,
		
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			you're going to draw on top,
again, we're talking directional,
		
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			not geo positioning here, you're
going to draw on your map, draw
		
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			that particular place, your place
of residence to be on top, because
		
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			the idea is that you are in a
position of superiority. Now, in
		
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			fact, it also has a theological
link, because for quite some time,
		
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			the Catholic Church had this
concept ingrained within their
		
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			theology that things that are
good, and they give kind of a
		
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			moral qualification to certain
things, things that are good, in
		
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			terms of a sense of morality,
would be lighter and higher, and
		
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			ethereal, in other words that they
raise up. And so when they think
		
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			about things that are evil and
bad, they focus on those things
		
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			that are in the core of the earth.
So from one perspective, the
		
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			Hellfire would be at the core and
the center of the earth. In fact,
		
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			in, in one in one writing, which
actually escapes me right now, but
		
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			it was part of a study that was
done out of the University of
		
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			Berkeley.
		
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			It was the historians analyzed
		
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			how the, how Christians, how
Catholics, how actually, I should
		
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			say, not modern day Catholics, but
those that come before modernity,
		
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			part of the Catholic Church, they
had categorized certain vegetables
		
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			and certain fruits on this moral
scale. So fruits or vegetables
		
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			that you dig out of the ground,
you take out of the ground, had
		
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			more of a negative kind of evil
sense to them. So things like
		
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			potatoes and carrots, were things
that were found on trees were
		
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			considered of a moral have a
better had a had ahead had a
		
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			higher moral weight. In other
words, they were morally better,
		
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			right? They were good. Okay. Now,
so when it comes to maps, perhaps
		
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			after Ptolemy, why this map was
adopted in this particular way,
		
00:28:02 --> 00:28:05
			and stayed like this, or continued
like this in Europe, and so on and
		
00:28:05 --> 00:28:09
			so forth, until it reaches us
today, perhaps could be tied to
		
00:28:09 --> 00:28:13
			Ptolemies actual residence, and
further from there could be tied
		
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			to certain elements of Christian
theology, that being the case, the
		
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			position isn't something that's
necessarily,
		
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			let's say, objectively true. Okay.
Why do I say that? Because when
		
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			you look at cartographers out of
the Muslim world, for example,
		
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			Muhammad Al idrisi, 12th century
geographer, cartographer, you'll
		
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			notice on the map that's there, he
actually drew it from our modern
		
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			day perspective, upside down. So
what does he do? He places
		
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			obviously places Mecca in the
middle, and then he places let's
		
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			say, Yemen, and parts of Africa
and so on, so forth on top, and he
		
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			places Europe, right, Spain, and
so on, so forth on the bottom. Why
		
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			does he do this? It has to do with
his worldview, from his worldview,
		
00:29:01 --> 00:29:05
			those things that are better, that
have more you can say that, that
		
00:29:05 --> 00:29:09
			that that are superior, obviously,
Mecca, being one of them, and you
		
00:29:09 --> 00:29:12
			know, Yemen, and so on and so
forth, that he puts them on top.
		
00:29:13 --> 00:29:17
			Now the thing is, which map is
correct? Like if we were to say,
		
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			Okay, well, I want to know, what's
the truth of the matter? Which map
		
00:29:20 --> 00:29:23
			do I now say that is truth? I
mean, obviously, we're not saying
		
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			that there's a, you know, there's
some sort of legal or theological
		
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			weight to, you know, picking one
or the other. But one does ask the
		
00:29:32 --> 00:29:35
			question, which one is based in
truth, which one's based in
		
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			reality? And the thing is, is that
we asked the question, is North
		
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			always up? Imagine if you were to
travel to outer space?
		
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			Would you?
		
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			You know, see, would you see North
as being up or would you see North
		
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			as being down and the reality is
because there's no anchor in outer
		
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			space?
		
00:30:00 --> 00:30:05
			There is no right or wrong answer
to this question. And so, like the
		
00:30:05 --> 00:30:09
			like I have on the diagram here,
depending on where you are, you
		
00:30:09 --> 00:30:12
			know, you could be, you know,
upside down, you could be right
		
00:30:12 --> 00:30:15
			side up, but then upside down
right side up are all based on
		
00:30:15 --> 00:30:18
			some sort of an anchor, a
positional anchor, by which you
		
00:30:18 --> 00:30:21
			can say that this is true. And
this, you know, this is right, and
		
00:30:21 --> 00:30:24
			this is wrong, this is north, and
this is South, or this is up and
		
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			this is down, but up and down are
based on a certain position having
		
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			a certain anchor, if you're in
outer space. Well, there is no,
		
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			like, there's no specific anchor,
you know, you don't have gravity
		
00:30:36 --> 00:30:40
			will rely upon out there. Yes,
maybe from the moon in a specific
		
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			area, but even depending on where
you're on the moon. So the picture
		
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			that you see up there, actually,
it's a bit difficult to see. But
		
00:30:47 --> 00:30:51
			in fact, it is almost from our
from from from the maps that we're
		
00:30:51 --> 00:30:56
			used to, it's actually upside
down. Right. Okay. So now, the
		
00:30:56 --> 00:31:02
			idea of, can you trust others, we
see that it's not just a matter
		
00:31:02 --> 00:31:06
			of, can you trust others, because
they have some sort of, you know,
		
00:31:06 --> 00:31:11
			they're giving information based
on some sort of malice, but they
		
00:31:11 --> 00:31:14
			have cognitive limitations
themselves, and they have
		
00:31:14 --> 00:31:18
			cognitive biases yourselves, like
those biases that become manifest,
		
00:31:18 --> 00:31:21
			whether you're talking to me, or
you're having the literacy,
		
00:31:21 --> 00:31:25
			depending on your background, your
worldview, those biases become
		
00:31:25 --> 00:31:30
			manifest. Now, is one or the other
true, again, that there's no right
		
00:31:30 --> 00:31:34
			or wrong answer there. The point
is, is that when we say can we
		
00:31:34 --> 00:31:38
			trust others, again, when we are
extending our cognitive
		
00:31:38 --> 00:31:43
			limitations, by trusting others,
we also are subject to their own
		
00:31:43 --> 00:31:49
			cognitive biases. So if you can't
trust yourself 100% Your own
		
00:31:49 --> 00:31:53
			cognition, your own ability to
take in information, and you can't
		
00:31:53 --> 00:31:57
			trust others? What is the person
supposed to do, especially in this
		
00:31:57 --> 00:32:01
			day and age, with the
overwhelming, you know, sheer
		
00:32:01 --> 00:32:06
			quantity of information. And this
is where I'll remind us of our
		
00:32:06 --> 00:32:10
			central thesis. And that is, the
greater your exposure to beauty,
		
00:32:10 --> 00:32:15
			the greater your ability to see
truth as it really is. Because
		
00:32:15 --> 00:32:20
			what we need to understand is that
while rationality is an amazing
		
00:32:20 --> 00:32:25
			tool, but it is not the end all
and be all right, there has to be
		
00:32:25 --> 00:32:29
			something else that gets us to see
truth as it really is. And what
		
00:32:29 --> 00:32:34
			I'm proposing is that one of those
tools is a person's exposure to
		
00:32:34 --> 00:32:37
			beauty. Okay. Now,
		
00:32:40 --> 00:32:44
			one of the questions we want to
ask, is that is beauty part of our
		
00:32:44 --> 00:32:50
			meta language? Now, what do I mean
by this? You see, when we look at,
		
00:32:51 --> 00:32:54
			you know, the structure of our
language, when we think about
		
00:32:54 --> 00:33:00
			terms that we use, within our own
conversation, our communicative
		
00:33:00 --> 00:33:04
			ability, we find that there are
certain
		
00:33:05 --> 00:33:09
			terms and specifically here, we're
talking about ethical terms that
		
00:33:09 --> 00:33:12
			are evaluative in nature, and
certain terms that are descriptive
		
00:33:12 --> 00:33:19
			in nature. So in, in, in, in zoos,
book, ethical, religious concepts
		
00:33:19 --> 00:33:23
			in the Quran, he actually says
that ethical terms and specially
		
00:33:23 --> 00:33:25
			we're talking about ethical terms,
terms, like, you know, generosity,
		
00:33:25 --> 00:33:30
			humility, that they can be either
on a primary level, or a secondary
		
00:33:30 --> 00:33:34
			level, if those terms are on a
primary level, they are primarily
		
00:33:34 --> 00:33:37
			descriptive, they're describing
something. And if they're on a
		
00:33:37 --> 00:33:41
			secondary level, they're
evaluative. In other words,
		
00:33:41 --> 00:33:47
			primary words that are describing
a certain ethic, are rely are
		
00:33:47 --> 00:33:51
			reliant upon secondary word, they
use that as the basis. So if you
		
00:33:51 --> 00:33:55
			think about the concept of
generosity, all right, so when you
		
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			say, Okay, well, generosity,
generosity is good. So generosity
		
00:34:01 --> 00:34:04
			is your primary descriptive term,
if you talk about a person, that
		
00:34:04 --> 00:34:08
			person is generous, and good is
your secondary evaluative term,
		
00:34:09 --> 00:34:11
			evaluative term, right? The term
that's going to give you an
		
00:34:11 --> 00:34:17
			evaluation, what about generosity?
While it's good, okay, humility,
		
00:34:17 --> 00:34:21
			again, it's a primary term the
secondary term here is good,
		
00:34:21 --> 00:34:26
			humility is good. Now, the
question that we want to ask when
		
00:34:26 --> 00:34:29
			it comes to you know, when it
comes to
		
00:34:30 --> 00:34:36
			our language is is the concept of
beauty is that also part of our
		
00:34:36 --> 00:34:40
			meta language? Now, when I say
meta language typically when you
		
00:34:40 --> 00:34:45
			hear the term meta, it has to do
with kind of the the basis or the
		
00:34:45 --> 00:34:48
			anchor for something right. So
when you think of like meta
		
00:34:48 --> 00:34:51
			ethics, so what is the ethics
built upon? What is that thing
		
00:34:51 --> 00:34:54
			that stable that is built upon
what is the anchor? So what is the
		
00:34:54 --> 00:34:58
			anchor for language itself? What
is the meta language? So if we
		
00:34:58 --> 00:34:59
			talk about something like
		
00:35:00 --> 00:35:02
			Good. And we have these these
three things here that are they're
		
00:35:02 --> 00:35:06
			presented. Why do you believe in
X? I believe in x because it's
		
00:35:06 --> 00:35:10
			true. True then becomes part of
our meta language. It's secondary
		
00:35:10 --> 00:35:16
			in its nature. Its evaluative.
evaluative. Why do you want? Why
		
00:35:16 --> 00:35:20
			will because it's good. Okay?
Again, we find that the term good
		
00:35:20 --> 00:35:24
			is part of our meta language. And
there's not too much, you know,
		
00:35:24 --> 00:35:27
			you wouldn't find too many people
arguing about this. But then when
		
00:35:27 --> 00:35:30
			you ask the question, why do you
look at z?
		
00:35:31 --> 00:35:35
			And you say, because it's
beautiful, is beautiful part of
		
00:35:35 --> 00:35:40
			our meta language? does it fall in
the category of secondary
		
00:35:40 --> 00:35:46
			evaluative terms? Or is it
descriptive? Well, many people
		
00:35:46 --> 00:35:49
			from you know, from from time
immemorial, you can say,
		
00:35:50 --> 00:35:54
			actually considered beautiful to
be part of our meta language, part
		
00:35:54 --> 00:35:57
			of that evaluation that you would
have.
		
00:35:58 --> 00:36:01
			Now, where the where the where the
difference comes in and where the
		
00:36:01 --> 00:36:04
			problems may arise? Is because
someone may say, Well hold on a
		
00:36:04 --> 00:36:09
			second. But isn't beauty
subjective? Like I could look at a
		
00:36:09 --> 00:36:11
			painting and someone else could
look at a painting and I could
		
00:36:11 --> 00:36:13
			think it's beautiful. And someone
who could else else could think
		
00:36:13 --> 00:36:17
			that it's just It's the ugliest
thing I've ever seen. So if beauty
		
00:36:17 --> 00:36:22
			is subjective, can we really say
that it would form part of our
		
00:36:22 --> 00:36:25
			meta language? Now I'm going to
hang that question in abeyance
		
00:36:25 --> 00:36:29
			this idea of subjective and
objective, right? Like, is it? Is
		
00:36:29 --> 00:36:32
			beauty in the eyes of the
beholder? Or are the things that
		
00:36:32 --> 00:36:37
			are actually beautiful in a
straight, objective way? We're
		
00:36:37 --> 00:36:40
			going to hang that question, we'll
return back to it. But it's
		
00:36:40 --> 00:36:45
			something that I like to think
about that many, you know, for
		
00:36:45 --> 00:36:51
			instance, St. Thomas Aquinas, St.
Thomas Aquinas, he attributed the
		
00:36:51 --> 00:36:55
			idea of beauty to be part of our
meta language. And that had to do
		
00:36:55 --> 00:37:00
			with his idea that these are
attributes of God. And therefore,
		
00:37:01 --> 00:37:03
			they are part of our meta
language, because they form that
		
00:37:04 --> 00:37:08
			the anchor because God is our
anchor, right? So God is true,
		
00:37:08 --> 00:37:11
			right? He's you know, and even
from an Islamic worldview, we say
		
00:37:11 --> 00:37:15
			God is a hawk, he is the truth. So
that can form part of our meta
		
00:37:15 --> 00:37:19
			language. Similarly, God is above,
from again, Islamic position,
		
00:37:19 --> 00:37:23
			therefore we can use good as a
part of our meta language. From
		
00:37:23 --> 00:37:28
			the Islamic standpoint, God is, is
Jamil He's beautiful, and he loves
		
00:37:28 --> 00:37:30
			beauty and therefore we can use
beauty as part of our meta
		
00:37:30 --> 00:37:35
			language. Now, that being said, we
said that that was we attribute
		
00:37:35 --> 00:37:38
			that to St. Thomas Aquinas. And
		
00:37:39 --> 00:37:42
			and hopefully I'm pronouncing that
right, I'm not sure but anyway,
		
00:37:43 --> 00:37:50
			his name, but there is a similar
concept that the scholar in
		
00:37:50 --> 00:37:54
			Louisville Josie expounds, upon
and he talks about this idea of
		
00:37:54 --> 00:37:58
			matching some of the, the
attributes and the qualities of
		
00:37:58 --> 00:38:03
			Allah of God, right. And it's not
that we're trying to be like God,
		
00:38:03 --> 00:38:08
			in some sort of absolute or in
terms of the essence of God, but
		
00:38:08 --> 00:38:12
			rather we find that God has
certain attributes and the
		
00:38:12 --> 00:38:15
			emulation of those attributes,
understanding that we will fall
		
00:38:15 --> 00:38:20
			far short, then their perfection
or their or their maximal
		
00:38:20 --> 00:38:23
			perfection, is a clear
understanding, but we still strive
		
00:38:23 --> 00:38:26
			for them. So if you look at you
mentions that
		
00:38:27 --> 00:38:32
			one of the the names of God is his
Aleem, he is the one that the one
		
00:38:32 --> 00:38:37
			that's all knowing, and he loves
for His creation, his slaves, the
		
00:38:37 --> 00:38:42
			human beings, to possess
knowledge. Similarly, God is Al
		
00:38:42 --> 00:38:47
			Hakim, he is the wise and he he
loves for His servants and slaves
		
00:38:47 --> 00:38:52
			to have wisdom. He is the one who
is unwrap man. And so he is
		
00:38:52 --> 00:38:56
			someone who who loves for his
slaves for loves, for His
		
00:38:56 --> 00:39:00
			creation, to human beings to have
mercy. Rama means the most
		
00:39:00 --> 00:39:06
			merciful, and so on and so forth.
And similarly, we find that he is
		
00:39:06 --> 00:39:11
			a Jimmy. And so he loves to see
beauty that's manifest upon the
		
00:39:11 --> 00:39:15
			human being. So from that
perspective, we could say, we
		
00:39:15 --> 00:39:16
			could,
		
00:39:17 --> 00:39:21
			you know, we could put forth the
idea that beauty could be part of
		
00:39:21 --> 00:39:25
			our metal language. But again,
we've got that issue, especially
		
00:39:25 --> 00:39:28
			when we consider it attached to
something that transcends the
		
00:39:28 --> 00:39:32
			human being that being God. But we
still have the issue of beauty
		
00:39:32 --> 00:39:35
			being subjective versus beauty
being objective, which I said I'll
		
00:39:35 --> 00:39:38
			touch upon in a little bit. Now.
		
00:39:40 --> 00:39:44
			When we talk about the question of
beauty being part of our meta
		
00:39:44 --> 00:39:46
			language, there's another
		
00:39:47 --> 00:39:52
			you can say secondary question are
another secondary issue from a
		
00:39:52 --> 00:39:55
			from an Islamic theological point
of view. And that is, is beauty
		
00:39:55 --> 00:39:59
			part of our fitrah. Now I'm going
to digress here just for a minute,
		
00:39:59 --> 00:39:59
			just
		
00:40:00 --> 00:40:04
			You know, in case that you haven't
heard some of the other Sapiens
		
00:40:04 --> 00:40:08
			sessions on the fifth or or you
haven't read Jamie Turner's
		
00:40:08 --> 00:40:13
			article related regarding the
fifth era, it's a great article, I
		
00:40:13 --> 00:40:18
			highly encourage you to go to the
Sapiens Institute website and have
		
00:40:18 --> 00:40:18
			a read,
		
00:40:19 --> 00:40:24
			you will thoroughly enjoy it in
Sharla, at least I did. So I want
		
00:40:24 --> 00:40:28
			to digress here just for a second,
because I think it's important for
		
00:40:28 --> 00:40:32
			us to understand and for us to
kind of take the point home about
		
00:40:32 --> 00:40:34
			beauty being part of
		
00:40:35 --> 00:40:39
			AR, you know, the meta language,
but even deeper than that. So as a
		
00:40:39 --> 00:40:43
			quick for us to quickly
understand, and this will have
		
00:40:43 --> 00:40:47
			this will have, you know, will
understand our cognitive
		
00:40:47 --> 00:40:52
			limitations as well when we
understand the idea of the fitrah.
		
00:40:52 --> 00:40:57
			So, let's start off with
rationality as a concept. And
		
00:40:57 --> 00:41:00
			again, I'm going to try to cover
this quickly. If I, if I miss
		
00:41:00 --> 00:41:04
			something, or something like that,
there is plenty of content that we
		
00:41:04 --> 00:41:08
			have, and more content that's
coming out, where we dig very deep
		
00:41:08 --> 00:41:12
			into the concept of the fifth
rule. So let's talk about
		
00:41:12 --> 00:41:13
			rationality for a second.
		
00:41:14 --> 00:41:18
			When people think about
rationality, they generally divide
		
00:41:18 --> 00:41:21
			rationality into two categories,
they say you have certain things
		
00:41:21 --> 00:41:24
			that are rational, and certain
things that are irrational. Okay,
		
00:41:24 --> 00:41:28
			so an irrational statement is
something like, I am five,
		
00:41:28 --> 00:41:32
			straightforward, rational
statement, an irrational statement
		
00:41:32 --> 00:41:38
			is something like I have seen a
square circle. Now, the first
		
00:41:38 --> 00:41:41
			statement is very clear. It's
rational, makes sense? The second
		
00:41:41 --> 00:41:45
			statement, you make come to me and
say, Hold on a second. What do you
		
00:41:45 --> 00:41:48
			mean, you see, the square circle?
square circle doesn't make any
		
00:41:48 --> 00:41:52
			sense. Because by definition, a
square is something that has four
		
00:41:52 --> 00:41:55
			sides. And by definition, a circle
that has is something that is
		
00:41:55 --> 00:41:59
			round and lacks, having sides. So
you're saying you have something
		
00:41:59 --> 00:42:02
			that has sides? It doesn't have
sides at the same time? Well,
		
00:42:02 --> 00:42:06
			that's not rational at all. That's
irrational. What if I was
		
00:42:06 --> 00:42:11
			obstinate? I said, No, I believe
in square circles, you may then
		
00:42:11 --> 00:42:17
			present to me the I the the
specific logical principle, to
		
00:42:17 --> 00:42:20
			say, no, those things that you're
speaking about are mutually
		
00:42:20 --> 00:42:23
			exclusive. It goes against the
principle of mutual exclusivity.
		
00:42:24 --> 00:42:29
			In other words, mutual exclusivity
means you have two terms that
		
00:42:29 --> 00:42:32
			cannot exist at the same time, it
cannot be farther, not farther at
		
00:42:32 --> 00:42:32
			the same time.
		
00:42:34 --> 00:42:37
			What if I come now and say, Well,
I don't believe in that principle.
		
00:42:38 --> 00:42:43
			Unless you prove to me that
principle is true. Now, the
		
00:42:43 --> 00:42:46
			problem is, you can't prove the
principle. You start with the
		
00:42:46 --> 00:42:51
			principle. And so when we think
about rationality, we understand
		
00:42:52 --> 00:42:57
			that rationality, as an endeavor,
cannot exist, unless there are
		
00:42:57 --> 00:43:01
			things that are outside of
rationality, that we cannot prove,
		
00:43:01 --> 00:43:05
			but we must assume, right, and
they're not irrational, but they
		
00:43:05 --> 00:43:09
			lie outside of rationality. In
fact, we call them super rational.
		
00:43:10 --> 00:43:16
			And so logical principles are part
of the super rational. So and when
		
00:43:16 --> 00:43:20
			in Islamic parlance, when we're
when we're understanding
		
00:43:20 --> 00:43:23
			rationality, as this sort of these
three categories of rationality,
		
00:43:24 --> 00:43:27
			the super rational, rational,
irrational, we can say that the
		
00:43:27 --> 00:43:33
			super rational is what we call the
fitrah. In Islamic parlance, so
		
00:43:33 --> 00:43:37
			one we understand that logical
principles form part of the super
		
00:43:37 --> 00:43:37
			rational.
		
00:43:39 --> 00:43:44
			We understand also, though, that
concepts of beauty, also form part
		
00:43:44 --> 00:43:49
			of the fitrah. Now, what does the
term itself mean very quickly, the
		
00:43:49 --> 00:43:53
			term from an from from, from,
from, from an Arabic point of
		
00:43:53 --> 00:43:57
			view, or from, let's say, the
Islamic world view, the term
		
00:43:57 --> 00:44:03
			fitrah is that state in which God
has created the human being, it's
		
00:44:03 --> 00:44:09
			that primordial base state, that
primordial base state that is
		
00:44:09 --> 00:44:10
			good,
		
00:44:11 --> 00:44:17
			and that is natural. And so
therefore, the fitrah is that
		
00:44:17 --> 00:44:20
			which God has created the human
being upon so the Quran mentioned
		
00:44:20 --> 00:44:23
			this very clearly about the
legality fatness Alia, it is the
		
00:44:23 --> 00:44:27
			fitrah that God has created the
human being upon. Now, without
		
00:44:27 --> 00:44:30
			getting into too many details
about that there's a there's a lot
		
00:44:30 --> 00:44:36
			we can get into. But understanding
that our perception of beauty
		
00:44:36 --> 00:44:40
			would be part of that, like from
if we're gonna look at the
		
00:44:40 --> 00:44:43
			terminology we're using right now
the super rational or the fitrah.
		
00:44:43 --> 00:44:47
			Why? Because the you know,
questions about beauty are not
		
00:44:47 --> 00:44:51
			questions that aren't necessarily
rational. In fact, they're not
		
00:44:51 --> 00:44:55
			rational. If you were to go out
and you know, to, to see a sunset
		
00:44:56 --> 00:44:59
			with your significant other, and
you turned your significant other
		
00:44:59 --> 00:45:00
			and said
		
00:45:00 --> 00:45:04
			A wow that sunsets beautiful. And
your significant other turns you
		
00:45:04 --> 00:45:08
			and says, that is the ugliest
thing that I've ever seen. Prove
		
00:45:08 --> 00:45:12
			to me rationally that that is
beautiful. Well, there's no way
		
00:45:12 --> 00:45:16
			you can go much like there's
nowhere you can go. If someone
		
00:45:16 --> 00:45:20
			says prove to me the logical
principle. So you've got to have,
		
00:45:20 --> 00:45:25
			by necessity, certain items that
are outside of rationality that
		
00:45:25 --> 00:45:29
			you cannot prove, but you know,
are true, right? And, you know, we
		
00:45:29 --> 00:45:32
			can extend this out to things like
your own existence, you can't
		
00:45:32 --> 00:45:35
			prove that you can't prove for
instance, the existence of other
		
00:45:35 --> 00:45:39
			minds, you may be able to convince
yourself of your, the existence of
		
00:45:39 --> 00:45:42
			your mind by way of your first
person experience. But the
		
00:45:42 --> 00:45:46
			existence of other minds, how can
you prove that, right, and so on,
		
00:45:46 --> 00:45:48
			and so forth now.
		
00:45:49 --> 00:45:52
			Because if you were to ask for
proof for, let's say, even the
		
00:45:52 --> 00:45:56
			principle or proving everything,
the problem is the only place that
		
00:45:56 --> 00:46:00
			you would be left to go to is
skepticism. And you'd have because
		
00:46:00 --> 00:46:04
			there's no theorem that is
infinitely defendable. You can't
		
00:46:04 --> 00:46:05
			say because this because forever.
		
00:46:07 --> 00:46:10
			Because if you say that, it means
you're saying, I doubt everything.
		
00:46:11 --> 00:46:14
			And if you're saying you doubt
everything, you have to doubt,
		
00:46:14 --> 00:46:19
			your doubt, which leaves you
intellectually paralyzed. You
		
00:46:19 --> 00:46:24
			know, I remember someone had given
the example to say rationality is
		
00:46:24 --> 00:46:29
			an amazing tool, but it still
needs something outside of itself
		
00:46:29 --> 00:46:33
			to actually work. It's much like
someone who comes to you and says,
		
00:46:33 --> 00:46:36
			I have the perfect solvent. So
someone that says, I can
		
00:46:36 --> 00:46:41
			rationally I can I can use my
rationality to prove anything, by
		
00:46:41 --> 00:46:44
			way of proof. In other words, I
can prove it is like someone who
		
00:46:44 --> 00:46:48
			says, I have this solvent, this
thing that can doesn't dissolve
		
00:46:48 --> 00:46:51
			things, and it is the perfect
solvent, it will dissolve
		
00:46:51 --> 00:46:55
			anything, right? I can prove
anything it can the solvent
		
00:46:55 --> 00:46:59
			dissolve anything? Well, you want
to ask that person? What bottle
		
00:46:59 --> 00:46:59
			will you keep it in.
		
00:47:01 --> 00:47:03
			Because even though if you had the
absolute solvent, and it may be a
		
00:47:03 --> 00:47:06
			great tool, you still need a
bottle to keep it in that bottle
		
00:47:06 --> 00:47:12
			is going to be absolute AB solute
that which is not soluble, that
		
00:47:12 --> 00:47:15
			which is not solvable, right? You
cannot solve it, when we're
		
00:47:15 --> 00:47:19
			talking about rationality, that
which is not soluble, anyhow. So
		
00:47:19 --> 00:47:23
			you always need an absolute, as
part of your structure, something
		
00:47:23 --> 00:47:29
			that you cannot prove, but you
must assume moving forward. Now is
		
00:47:29 --> 00:47:33
			beauty part of the fitrah. And we
would say that beauty is indeed
		
00:47:33 --> 00:47:37
			part of the fitrah, because it is
not a particular concept that
		
00:47:37 --> 00:47:39
			you're trying to prove. And in
fact, we're going to get into some
		
00:47:39 --> 00:47:44
			more details relate to that as
well. All right, before we get
		
00:47:44 --> 00:47:49
			into analyzing beauty, you know,
whether it's part of the fitrah,
		
00:47:49 --> 00:47:52
			and then going back to our thesis,
about beauty and exposure to
		
00:47:52 --> 00:47:57
			beauty, giving us you know, access
to the truth or being able to
		
00:47:57 --> 00:48:02
			allowing us to see truth as it
really is. I found in a book by
		
00:48:02 --> 00:48:06
			Roger Scruton called Beauty, a
very short introduction, he
		
00:48:06 --> 00:48:09
			presents certain platitudes. Now
notice, he doesn't present these
		
00:48:09 --> 00:48:13
			as axioms, he doesn't present
these as first principles, but
		
00:48:13 --> 00:48:16
			there's their platitudes. And so
there may be some opinion to
		
00:48:16 --> 00:48:20
			relate to this. But I think it's a
good starting point. So when we
		
00:48:20 --> 00:48:24
			are conceptualizing beauty, we're
trying to understand beauty. We
		
00:48:24 --> 00:48:27
			see that number one, one of his
platitudes is that beauty pleases
		
00:48:27 --> 00:48:33
			us, when you are looking at
something, one of the reasons why
		
00:48:33 --> 00:48:35
			you're looking at it is because it
there's a certain type of
		
00:48:35 --> 00:48:39
			pleasure. And we're not talking
about a physical, visceral
		
00:48:39 --> 00:48:43
			pleasure. But this pleasure is of
a different nature. So it's
		
00:48:43 --> 00:48:48
			pleasing, but it has a different
sort of content than something
		
00:48:48 --> 00:48:50
			that would be which would
attribute to like a physical
		
00:48:50 --> 00:48:51
			pleasure, okay.
		
00:48:53 --> 00:48:57
			Number two, one thing can be more
beautiful than another. So you may
		
00:48:57 --> 00:49:00
			be able to see one painting, and
compare it to another painting and
		
00:49:00 --> 00:49:03
			say, Okay, well, this one is more
beautiful in this one. So there is
		
00:49:03 --> 00:49:08
			this ability to be able to compare
things and give things a value on
		
00:49:08 --> 00:49:12
			the scale of beauty. Number three,
beauty is always a reason for
		
00:49:12 --> 00:49:15
			attending to the thing that
possesses it. Okay, when you see
		
00:49:15 --> 00:49:19
			something that's beautiful, your
attention is drawn there because
		
00:49:19 --> 00:49:21
			of the beauty because of the
content of the beauty. That's
		
00:49:21 --> 00:49:25
			there. Beauty number four beauty
is the subject matter of a
		
00:49:25 --> 00:49:32
			judgment, the judgment of taste.
Okay, so the idea that that's been
		
00:49:32 --> 00:49:37
			that's been put forth here is that
when you are exposed to something
		
00:49:37 --> 00:49:41
			that is beautiful, there's going
to be a judgment involved, is it
		
00:49:41 --> 00:49:45
			beautiful, how beautiful is it
etc. And that has to do with the
		
00:49:45 --> 00:49:50
			concept of taste. You have a
certain aesthetic taste, you say I
		
00:49:50 --> 00:49:53
			like this or I don't like that.
And this goes back to our concept
		
00:49:53 --> 00:49:57
			of subjective versus objective,
right? Like is beauty is all
		
00:49:57 --> 00:49:59
			beauty subjective, or is there
some of this object
		
00:50:00 --> 00:50:03
			due for that beauty that's
subjective, we could say it's a
		
00:50:03 --> 00:50:06
			matter of aesthetic taste, or some
sort of tastes that a person has,
		
00:50:07 --> 00:50:10
			much like the judgment of food,
when you would have certain types
		
00:50:10 --> 00:50:13
			of food that you eat, you may like
them, and person number two may
		
00:50:13 --> 00:50:17
			not. And you may be able to
categorize food in certain foods
		
00:50:17 --> 00:50:19
			that you like, versus certain
things that you don't like, in
		
00:50:19 --> 00:50:23
			terms of that physical phenomena
of taste, that experience of
		
00:50:23 --> 00:50:24
			taste,
		
00:50:25 --> 00:50:30
			by way of the, by, by way of your
sense perception of the tongue.
		
00:50:30 --> 00:50:34
			Okay? Number five, the judgment of
taste is about the beautiful
		
00:50:34 --> 00:50:38
			object, not about the subject,
state of mind. So when you make a
		
00:50:38 --> 00:50:42
			judgment about taste, and here,
we're talking about taste being
		
00:50:42 --> 00:50:43
			related to beauty,
		
00:50:45 --> 00:50:48
			you're making a judgment about the
object you're not making about,
		
00:50:48 --> 00:50:52
			you're not making a judgment based
on the subject state of mind,
		
00:50:52 --> 00:50:56
			meaning you're not looking at,
let's say, the painter's state of
		
00:50:56 --> 00:50:59
			mind, right, you're looking at
what the output is. And number
		
00:50:59 --> 00:51:03
			six, nevertheless, there are no
second hand judgments of beauty.
		
00:51:04 --> 00:51:06
			And this, I think, is really
interesting. Because if you've
		
00:51:06 --> 00:51:10
			ever had a conversation with
someone about a particular thing
		
00:51:10 --> 00:51:14
			being beautiful, and they
disagreed with you, there's no way
		
00:51:14 --> 00:51:18
			to win that argument. Right? And
so there's no second judgments
		
00:51:18 --> 00:51:23
			about beauty because that is for
you to make that almost direct
		
00:51:23 --> 00:51:24
			interpretation.
		
00:51:25 --> 00:51:31
			Okay. Now, one of the things that
we need to understand is that when
		
00:51:31 --> 00:51:36
			we experience beauty, it has a
connection to meaning. Now,
		
00:51:36 --> 00:51:40
			remember, when we started off, I
said that, you know, that we
		
00:51:40 --> 00:51:45
			talked about cognitive biases and
cognitive limitations. And while
		
00:51:45 --> 00:51:48
			rationality is a great tool,
		
00:51:49 --> 00:51:52
			to judge whether something is true
or not,
		
00:51:53 --> 00:51:58
			it, we need other things to be
able to understand the the truth
		
00:51:58 --> 00:52:02
			of kind of in its entirety, okay.
And so when we think about truth,
		
00:52:03 --> 00:52:08
			as, as an endeavor, we have to
understand that the idea of
		
00:52:08 --> 00:52:13
			meaning is very important to that
to this journey that we're gonna
		
00:52:13 --> 00:52:17
			be taking to find truth. Okay. And
so one of this section, when we're
		
00:52:17 --> 00:52:20
			talking about conceptualizing
beauty, what I'm trying to do is
		
00:52:20 --> 00:52:25
			connect beauty to meaning, meaning
that there is when we think about
		
00:52:25 --> 00:52:28
			beauty, we think about the
phenomenology of beauty, we see
		
00:52:28 --> 00:52:32
			that it has a connection to
meaning it points to something
		
00:52:32 --> 00:52:40
			that's deeper than just a sort of
just a sort of a cold cerebral
		
00:52:40 --> 00:52:44
			sensation, right, there has to be
something more. Okay. And I'm
		
00:52:44 --> 00:52:48
			going to do that by citing a few
examples. So if you see the
		
00:52:48 --> 00:52:53
			picture on the screen, right, now,
we see that you have a dining
		
00:52:53 --> 00:52:59
			table that set. Now, there is a
difference when you set up a
		
00:52:59 --> 00:53:05
			dining table for you know, for a
certain purpose, or you set up a
		
00:53:05 --> 00:53:06
			dining table
		
00:53:08 --> 00:53:10
			with the purpose of beautifying
it,
		
00:53:11 --> 00:53:15
			you know, these are two different
phenomena. Okay, so what I've got
		
00:53:15 --> 00:53:18
			up here is aesthetic versus
utilitarian interest, if you're
		
00:53:18 --> 00:53:21
			just focused on the utility, in
other words, you're just setting
		
00:53:21 --> 00:53:25
			up the table so that people can
conveniently eat, you might take
		
00:53:25 --> 00:53:29
			out some paper plates, put it in a
stack, put on a couple of dishes,
		
00:53:29 --> 00:53:32
			and so on and so forth. And people
could just directly take the food
		
00:53:32 --> 00:53:34
			and the paper plates and you call
it a day.
		
00:53:36 --> 00:53:41
			But yet, when someone sets a
table, we understand that they are
		
00:53:41 --> 00:53:45
			transcending just the idea of
utility. Like if you look at the
		
00:53:45 --> 00:53:48
			picture here, you see there are a
lot of things that you may
		
00:53:48 --> 00:53:53
			consider from a utilitarian
viewpoint suppler. First, you've
		
00:53:53 --> 00:53:58
			got the candles, you've got the
greenery, you've got the glass,
		
00:53:58 --> 00:54:03
			the napkin and how it's laid. And
so what you experience is
		
00:54:03 --> 00:54:10
			something that's beyond just the
the practicality of serving food.
		
00:54:10 --> 00:54:14
			All right, so what does and so why
would you set a table like that,
		
00:54:15 --> 00:54:19
			because as a person who's hosting
a dinner, you may consider that to
		
00:54:19 --> 00:54:24
			that it's a reflection of you.
It's a reflection of your taste,
		
00:54:24 --> 00:54:27
			it's a reflection of, you know,
how much you care for the other
		
00:54:27 --> 00:54:34
			person. So when you transcend mere
utility, you are saying something
		
00:54:34 --> 00:54:38
			about yourself and you're saying
something about your guest. And so
		
00:54:38 --> 00:54:42
			there's a deeper meaning to the
aesthetic setting of a table
		
00:54:42 --> 00:54:46
			versus just the utility. And so,
we see that beauty is connected to
		
00:54:46 --> 00:54:50
			meaning when we compare the
aesthetic to you know, when we
		
00:54:51 --> 00:54:54
			think of aesthetic interest versus
utilitarian interest. So we see
		
00:54:54 --> 00:54:57
			the first connection of beauty to
meaning is that which says
		
00:54:57 --> 00:54:59
			something about it
		
00:55:00 --> 00:55:02
			The person that's let's say, in
this example setting the table,
		
00:55:03 --> 00:55:07
			and about how much that person
cares about the person they're
		
00:55:07 --> 00:55:08
			inviting over.
		
00:55:10 --> 00:55:10
			Okay?
		
00:55:12 --> 00:55:16
			Let's take a look at art versus
entertainment. Now, I've been told
		
00:55:16 --> 00:55:21
			many times to keep my comic book
references to a minimum. And so
		
00:55:21 --> 00:55:24
			this will be the only slide
related to any sort of reference
		
00:55:24 --> 00:55:27
			to comic books, or comic book
characters, superheroes or
		
00:55:27 --> 00:55:30
			anything like that. Beauty is
connected, meaning we said that
		
00:55:30 --> 00:55:34
			that's point something deeper, and
we can see this when we find the
		
00:55:34 --> 00:55:40
			difference between art and
entertainment. Okay, when we are
		
00:55:40 --> 00:55:42
			discussing art,
		
00:55:44 --> 00:55:51
			we're discussing something that
goes beyond just a fleeting
		
00:55:53 --> 00:55:56
			sensation of being entertained,
okay, and the example that I have
		
00:55:56 --> 00:56:00
			up there is that I get into a
conversation with a certain
		
00:56:00 --> 00:56:07
			person, which will go unnamed, and
we discuss Marvel vs. DC. Okay, so
		
00:56:07 --> 00:56:11
			if you don't know what I'm talking
about, it's okay. DC is a type of
		
00:56:11 --> 00:56:14
			comic book, they have their own
characters. And Marvel is a type
		
00:56:14 --> 00:56:17
			of compact, they have their own
characters. Now, one of the things
		
00:56:17 --> 00:56:20
			about Marvel characters and Marvel
movies is that they are very
		
00:56:20 --> 00:56:25
			entertaining. So if I'm going to
go and watch a Marvel movie, I'm
		
00:56:25 --> 00:56:30
			going, you know, you know, solely
for the entertainment factor, that
		
00:56:30 --> 00:56:32
			I get the pleasure of watching,
you know, the action scenes and
		
00:56:32 --> 00:56:36
			things like that. And then I'm
done. When it comes to DC
		
00:56:36 --> 00:56:41
			characters, like Batman, and let's
say, there's a whole depth behind
		
00:56:41 --> 00:56:44
			the character, there's a
backstory, his, you know, parents
		
00:56:44 --> 00:56:46
			were killed. And that's what
prompted him to become a
		
00:56:46 --> 00:56:49
			superhero, and blah, blah, blah,
and all these other things. And
		
00:56:49 --> 00:56:55
			all of that is trying is being
captured in the form of how the
		
00:56:55 --> 00:56:58
			how the story is being told. And
within the cinematography, the
		
00:56:58 --> 00:57:02
			darkness of the shot, and so on,
and so forth. And all of that is
		
00:57:02 --> 00:57:08
			an artistic expression. That has
to do with meaning. Because when
		
00:57:08 --> 00:57:11
			someone is trying to put forth a
type of artistic expression,
		
00:57:11 --> 00:57:16
			again, it's saying something about
the artists themselves and saying
		
00:57:16 --> 00:57:19
			something about the output, that
when you're engaged with this
		
00:57:19 --> 00:57:23
			particular type of film, or you're
engaged with this particular type
		
00:57:23 --> 00:57:26
			of painting, or you're engaged
with this particular type of, you
		
00:57:26 --> 00:57:31
			know, whatever it might be, that
you're going to now think about
		
00:57:31 --> 00:57:36
			things on a level that's deeper,
that's beyond just the action
		
00:57:36 --> 00:57:40
			sequence, right? So we find that
when it comes to the company, when
		
00:57:40 --> 00:57:43
			we compare art versus
entertainment, art, entertainment
		
00:57:43 --> 00:57:47
			is merely kind of, kind of,
		
00:57:49 --> 00:57:53
			kind of touching our, our, our
essential buttons, for lack of a
		
00:57:54 --> 00:57:57
			better phrase, whereas art is
pushing us to think about things
		
00:57:57 --> 00:58:02
			deeper. So certain movies that you
watch their, their, you know, the
		
00:58:02 --> 00:58:08
			story is very deep, the, you know,
the way that the story is
		
00:58:08 --> 00:58:13
			portrayed on screen, every single
shot has a certain meaning. And
		
00:58:13 --> 00:58:16
			every single shot, the reason why
they take the shot from that
		
00:58:16 --> 00:58:22
			particular angle means something.
So because of the director, or the
		
00:58:22 --> 00:58:26
			film photographer, is in the
position to say, Okay, well, we
		
00:58:26 --> 00:58:29
			want this angle with this
lighting, and so on and so forth,
		
00:58:29 --> 00:58:34
			to give people a feeling of x,
that has to do more with an
		
00:58:34 --> 00:58:37
			artistic expression, as opposed to
just merely entertaining people.
		
00:58:37 --> 00:58:41
			So when we compare art versus
entertainment, we see again, that
		
00:58:41 --> 00:58:45
			the focus on beauty is pointing
towards something deeper, and
		
00:58:45 --> 00:58:50
			pointing towards something of
meaning of significance. By the
		
00:58:50 --> 00:58:52
			way, that's not to say that Marvel
movies are insignificant. All
		
00:58:52 --> 00:58:53
			right.
		
00:58:54 --> 00:58:59
			All right. Let's give one more
example. And hopefully to take the
		
00:58:59 --> 00:59:01
			point home about beauty being
connected to meaning because it
		
00:59:01 --> 00:59:05
			points to something deeper. And
we're talking in this slide, we're
		
00:59:05 --> 00:59:11
			talking about pros versus poetry.
Now prose is something that you're
		
00:59:11 --> 00:59:13
			going to read for the sake of
information. All right, and I have
		
00:59:13 --> 00:59:17
			up there an organic chemistry
textbook. Now, for those of you
		
00:59:17 --> 00:59:19
			who have studied organic
chemistry, or are, you know,
		
00:59:19 --> 00:59:22
			thinking that they might go to
medical school, or whatever it
		
00:59:22 --> 00:59:25
			might be whatever purpose, you're
studying organic chemistry, I
		
00:59:25 --> 00:59:29
			think we can pretty much agree
that when you get a organic
		
00:59:29 --> 00:59:32
			chemistry textbook, and you read
through it, it's not something
		
00:59:32 --> 00:59:38
			you're going to come back to for
any other purpose except to get
		
00:59:38 --> 00:59:41
			the information, extract
information, and perhaps to just
		
00:59:41 --> 00:59:45
			pass the exam that you have to
take to move forward. So you're
		
00:59:45 --> 00:59:49
			really it's just again, it's very
cold and cerebral. It's just
		
00:59:49 --> 00:59:53
			extract information and move on.
You don't return back to it. In
		
00:59:53 --> 00:59:56
			fact, you know, for those you who
have gone, you know, past your
		
00:59:56 --> 00:59:59
			undergraduate level, you may be
your doctors, whatever it might be
		
00:59:59 --> 01:00:00
			you
		
01:00:00 --> 01:00:02
			Probably haven't, you'd probably
have sold your organic chemistry
		
01:00:02 --> 01:00:05
			textbook. I guess maybe I'm
talking back in the days where
		
01:00:05 --> 01:00:08
			they had textbooks nowadays
everything is on, you know, some
		
01:00:08 --> 01:00:11
			sort of a tablet or something like
that. But in those days, you
		
01:00:11 --> 01:00:14
			probably have sold your organic
chemist textbook. Why? Because
		
01:00:14 --> 01:00:17
			it's not something you're going to
return back to. There's nothing
		
01:00:17 --> 01:00:20
			prompting you to do that, with the
exception of extracting
		
01:00:20 --> 01:00:24
			information. Once you've done
that, you're done. Poetry is not
		
01:00:24 --> 01:00:28
			like that. Poetry is something
that when you read it, you want to
		
01:00:28 --> 01:00:33
			go back to it, because it
signifies something very deep. And
		
01:00:33 --> 01:00:37
			there's a there's something about
the poem, that you're you go back
		
01:00:37 --> 01:00:40
			to it again, and again, because it
gives you a type of pleasure.
		
01:00:42 --> 01:00:45
			That again, we were talking about
beauty, giving the person a type
		
01:00:45 --> 01:00:53
			of pleasure, that isn't this
visceral, sensual pleasure, yet it
		
01:00:53 --> 01:00:57
			is a type of pleasure. So I have a
poem up here from Emily Dickinson.
		
01:00:57 --> 01:01:00
			And I'd like us to really just
read it and reflect upon it
		
01:01:00 --> 01:01:04
			because I thought it was very
powerful. So, Emily Dickinson
		
01:01:04 --> 01:01:09
			writes, she says, hope is the
Thing With Feathers, to really
		
01:01:09 --> 01:01:13
			just ponder upon this. Hope is the
Thing With Feathers, that perches
		
01:01:13 --> 01:01:19
			in the soul that sings the tune
without words and never stops at
		
01:01:19 --> 01:01:23
			all. You know, you think about
something like hope, and the
		
01:01:23 --> 01:01:26
			concept of hope that she's now
given it this this this, this,
		
01:01:26 --> 01:01:31
			this physical effort this, that
she's she's anthropomorphized,
		
01:01:31 --> 01:01:34
			Oprah she's making she's made it
into something physical, right,
		
01:01:34 --> 01:01:37
			which is this bird. And there's a
certain beauty about that. So hope
		
01:01:37 --> 01:01:40
			is the Thing With Feathers that
perches in the soul.
		
01:01:41 --> 01:01:45
			That sing the tune without words
and never stops at all. The
		
01:01:45 --> 01:01:52
			sweetest in the Gale is heard. And
soar must be the storm of you
		
01:01:52 --> 01:01:55
			know, when you think about the
vicissitudes of life, and the
		
01:01:55 --> 01:01:58
			thing that's getting you through,
it's that hope, right? And so and
		
01:01:58 --> 01:02:04
			soar must be the storm that could
abash The little bird that kept so
		
01:02:04 --> 01:02:09
			many warm. I've heard it in the
chilliest in the chilliest land,
		
01:02:10 --> 01:02:15
			and on the strangest sea, yet
never in extremity, it asked a
		
01:02:15 --> 01:02:16
			chrome of me.
		
01:02:17 --> 01:02:22
			So I don't know if you experienced
that. But I personally found this
		
01:02:22 --> 01:02:25
			very profound, something that you
would go back and perhaps read
		
01:02:25 --> 01:02:29
			again, just because there was
there was information in a sense
		
01:02:29 --> 01:02:32
			that was conveyed. But there was
something that transcended the
		
01:02:32 --> 01:02:35
			information. There's something
that was more, that was something
		
01:02:35 --> 01:02:39
			that was beautiful about it. And
it had a deep meaning related to
		
01:02:39 --> 01:02:43
			this concept of hope. Right? I
mean, everyone goes through the
		
01:02:43 --> 01:02:46
			vicissitudes of life, the ups and
downs, and experiences either hope
		
01:02:46 --> 01:02:51
			or a lack of hope. And when you
read this, it's very powerful. So
		
01:02:52 --> 01:02:55
			when we talk about beauty being
connected to meaning, we're seeing
		
01:02:55 --> 01:02:59
			that it points to something
deeper, and one of the one of the
		
01:02:59 --> 01:03:03
			sample, one of the examples here
is when we compare pros, simple
		
01:03:03 --> 01:03:06
			kind of information transfer, or
just gaining information versus
		
01:03:06 --> 01:03:10
			poetry. Alright, there's one other
element related to poetry that I
		
01:03:10 --> 01:03:15
			wanted to touch upon that has to
do with content and form. Right.
		
01:03:15 --> 01:03:21
			So when we think about poetry, you
have the poem itself, and the
		
01:03:21 --> 01:03:23
			structure of the poem. In other
words, there were certain words
		
01:03:23 --> 01:03:28
			that the author put together in a
very specific structure, that
		
01:03:28 --> 01:03:34
			allow the person to taste or sense
or experience the beauty, when
		
01:03:34 --> 01:03:41
			that form is broken, or that form
is done away with that element of
		
01:03:41 --> 01:03:45
			beauty can be lost, okay. And a
lot of times that happens when we
		
01:03:45 --> 01:03:48
			talk about translation, you
translate a poem from one language
		
01:03:48 --> 01:03:53
			to the other, there's going to be
a certain loss, that that is felt.
		
01:03:53 --> 01:03:57
			And so now we come to the concept
of content versus form. There's
		
01:03:57 --> 01:04:02
			the actual content of the poem.
And then there's the form, and
		
01:04:02 --> 01:04:06
			where beauty comes in is related
to the form and the content and
		
01:04:06 --> 01:04:09
			when these two are separated, this
becomes problematic because it
		
01:04:09 --> 01:04:13
			then loses the aspect of you it
could lose the aspect of beauty.
		
01:04:13 --> 01:04:18
			So you have a poem here from the
from the man who was known as the
		
01:04:18 --> 01:04:24
			poet of the East, right? Muhammad
Akbar Rahim Allah in his poem
		
01:04:26 --> 01:04:30
			Balaji read, write or you know,
Gabriel's when he says and this
		
01:04:30 --> 01:04:33
			poem is in is an order so for
those of you who who speak what to
		
01:04:33 --> 01:04:37
			do, or know or to do, you may be
able to, to say I'm not going to
		
01:04:37 --> 01:04:42
			read the whole thing, but the poem
starts off. Garfield, Garfield,
		
01:04:42 --> 01:04:49
			Hermosa Lamar, Dona Shahi Norfolk
Ed, right. So if if a if a Muslim
		
01:04:49 --> 01:04:52
			is a Kaffir, right, if a Muslim is
a non Muslim, then there is
		
01:04:52 --> 01:04:56
			neither kingship nor poverty. Now
the thing that I want us to note
		
01:04:56 --> 01:05:00
			is that you find that there's a
few words in the phrase
		
01:05:00 --> 01:05:03
			As phrase in order to do, which
then you need a lot more words in
		
01:05:03 --> 01:05:08
			English to explain in a sense, the
particular verse that I just read,
		
01:05:08 --> 01:05:11
			okay? But the verse in order
actually has a certain type of
		
01:05:11 --> 01:05:16
			beauty, a certain cadence, a
certain rhythm by the, by the
		
01:05:16 --> 01:05:20
			words that the poet put together
in a way that the English doesn't,
		
01:05:20 --> 01:05:24
			because the English almost sounds,
you know, empty, right? If a
		
01:05:24 --> 01:05:27
			Muslim is a golfer that there is
neither functional property, but
		
01:05:27 --> 01:05:30
			if he is a movement, then he rules
even in poverty. And if he's a
		
01:05:30 --> 01:05:33
			Kaffir, then he relies on the
sword and so on and so forth. And
		
01:05:33 --> 01:05:37
			then when you compare that to
movement, head or moment had to
		
01:05:37 --> 01:05:40
			cut her hair, for Katie may be
		
01:05:42 --> 01:05:47
			shy, that that, but if he's a
movement, then he rules even in
		
01:05:47 --> 01:05:52
			poverty. He's equating this person
who's a true believer that it
		
01:05:52 --> 01:05:56
			doesn't you know, that even when
he's in the state of poverty, in
		
01:05:56 --> 01:05:58
			fact, he has this type of
kingship, he has this type of
		
01:05:58 --> 01:06:02
			royalty, and so on and so forth.
The point I'm trying to make here
		
01:06:02 --> 01:06:06
			is the idea of separating content
and form and this happens a lot
		
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			when we go into translations.
Okay. Now, can a poem be contained
		
01:06:11 --> 01:06:16
			in a paraphrase? Can you put a
poem in a separate set of words or
		
01:06:16 --> 01:06:20
			translate a poem, Clintons Brooks,
he talks about this idea of the
		
01:06:20 --> 01:06:24
			heresy of paraphrase, which ties
in with the with the last point I
		
01:06:24 --> 01:06:27
			was making, and he has a few
points where he says that there's
		
01:06:27 --> 01:06:31
			a certain heresy, there's a
certain No No, when it comes to
		
01:06:31 --> 01:06:35
			trying to paraphrase a poem. And
here's why. Number one, poetry can
		
01:06:35 --> 01:06:37
			express several thoughts at the
same time.
		
01:06:39 --> 01:06:42
			Whereas when you try to translate
it, or you try to paraphrase it,
		
01:06:42 --> 01:06:46
			you're not going to have the same
effect. Poems can be
		
01:06:47 --> 01:06:52
			polysemous, right? Meaning is
conveyed on several levels. So
		
01:06:52 --> 01:06:55
			when we looked at the poem related
to hope, there are a number of
		
01:06:55 --> 01:06:59
			levels that were conveyed as part
of the poem, which when you try to
		
01:06:59 --> 01:07:05
			paraphrase it get lost, meaning is
lost in any paraphrase, right to
		
01:07:05 --> 01:07:09
			be or not to be, so on, so forth.
That's the example he gave. So
		
01:07:09 --> 01:07:12
			when you try to paraphrase it, or
let's say the extreme form of
		
01:07:12 --> 01:07:15
			paraphrasing would be translating,
you're going to have certain
		
01:07:15 --> 01:07:19
			meanings that are lost. Alright?
In meanings meaning, specifically
		
01:07:19 --> 01:07:23
			here, we're talking about the idea
of beauty, pointing towards
		
01:07:23 --> 01:07:27
			meaning. Number four, sound is
important. How many times have you
		
01:07:27 --> 01:07:32
			heard a poem that when it's
recited in, in a certain
		
01:07:32 --> 01:07:35
			gathering, or it's got a certain
rhyme or certain structure, or a
		
01:07:35 --> 01:07:41
			certain, a certain cadence, that
when it's explained, it doesn't
		
01:07:42 --> 01:07:46
			have the same cadence, it doesn't
have the same beauty. And so sound
		
01:07:46 --> 01:07:51
			is important. And so, we find that
there are the idea of trying to
		
01:07:51 --> 01:07:56
			paraphrase, a poem becomes
problematic, because then in
		
01:07:56 --> 01:07:59
			essence, you're, you're kind of
stripping away the concept of
		
01:07:59 --> 01:08:00
			beauty itself. All right.
		
01:08:01 --> 01:08:04
			Now, remember, I said we were
going to return back, and I know
		
01:08:04 --> 01:08:08
			I'm running out of time here. But
remember, I said, we're gonna run
		
01:08:08 --> 01:08:11
			turn back to the idea of
subjective versus objective, okay?
		
01:08:12 --> 01:08:16
			Is beauty part of the super
rational? Is it something that's
		
01:08:16 --> 01:08:19
			part of our meta language, that
when you think about human work,
		
01:08:19 --> 01:08:22
			beauty that's created by human
beings, whether that be poetry,
		
01:08:22 --> 01:08:25
			whether that be a painting,
whether that be some sort of
		
01:08:25 --> 01:08:29
			photography, photography, whatever
it might be, that there's going to
		
01:08:29 --> 01:08:33
			be a certain bias. So just like
there are cognitive biases, when
		
01:08:33 --> 01:08:37
			it comes to the human being,
there's going to be certain
		
01:08:37 --> 01:08:40
			artistic biases, for lack of a
better term, when it comes to the
		
01:08:40 --> 01:08:44
			human being as well. And that's
why you can have a degree of
		
01:08:44 --> 01:08:48
			subjectivity when it comes to art
that's produced by human being,
		
01:08:48 --> 01:08:51
			right? Human beings. And we're
going to enter in some area of
		
01:08:51 --> 01:08:57
			theology now, from an Islamic
worldview framework, human beings
		
01:08:58 --> 01:09:00
			are not perfect beings, they're
created beings, and hence they
		
01:09:00 --> 01:09:05
			have limitations. And because of
those limitations, those things
		
01:09:05 --> 01:09:07
			that are produced by the human
beings are also going to be
		
01:09:07 --> 01:09:14
			subject to limitations, whereas
perfection is for God alone. And
		
01:09:14 --> 01:09:18
			so when it comes to the natural
world, this is where now we can
		
01:09:18 --> 01:09:23
			say that we can experience
objective beauty. All right, why?
		
01:09:23 --> 01:09:28
			Because nature is unbiased. Now
both of them in this diagram are
		
01:09:28 --> 01:09:31
			pointing towards meaning. When you
look at a poem, you're asking,
		
01:09:31 --> 01:09:35
			what is the meaning of the person
that compose the poem? What is the
		
01:09:35 --> 01:09:37
			meaning in terms of what they
think about me remember the dining
		
01:09:37 --> 01:09:41
			table and things like that. But at
the same time, we could apply the
		
01:09:41 --> 01:09:46
			same idea when it comes to the the
natural world. All right, and this
		
01:09:46 --> 01:09:49
			is something that while you know
that when we say that nature is
		
01:09:49 --> 01:09:53
			unbiased, this is I would say
true, no matter what your
		
01:09:53 --> 01:09:55
			worldview is, no matter what your
paradigm is, whether you're coming
		
01:09:55 --> 01:09:59
			from an Islamic paradigm, or any
paradigm and we see
		
01:10:00 --> 01:10:04
			do this even in our in our in our,
in our day to day, right? Because
		
01:10:05 --> 01:10:10
			when you, let's say, buy us a type
of cereal, one of the things that
		
01:10:10 --> 01:10:15
			marketers understand very well is
that they slap a nice, not all
		
01:10:15 --> 01:10:19
			natural label on it. Well, why did
they do that? Well, the reason is
		
01:10:19 --> 01:10:22
			because something with inside
ourselves
		
01:10:23 --> 01:10:27
			points to the idea that if it's
natural, if it's part of nature,
		
01:10:27 --> 01:10:32
			nature is unbiased. Nature doesn't
have cognitive biases. And so if
		
01:10:32 --> 01:10:35
			it's natural, it's something that
we should inclined towards we
		
01:10:35 --> 01:10:39
			naturally inclined towards it,
right. And so and so that
		
01:10:39 --> 01:10:43
			inclination, marketers understand
very well. So if you have a type
		
01:10:43 --> 01:10:46
			of cereal that's all natural,
that's going to be better than a
		
01:10:46 --> 01:10:51
			sugar a, a processed sugar filled
cereal, even though both of them
		
01:10:51 --> 01:10:53
			are probably processed. But that's
besides the point, right? But you
		
01:10:53 --> 01:10:57
			understand that, and we understand
that even when we look at the
		
01:10:57 --> 01:10:58
			world around us. Now,
		
01:10:59 --> 01:11:03
			let's take a look at the
experience of natural beauty. So
		
01:11:03 --> 01:11:06
			what you see there is a painting
of the Niagara Falls. Alright, so
		
01:11:06 --> 01:11:11
			if you've ever visited Niagara
Falls, it is breathtaking. And it
		
01:11:11 --> 01:11:15
			is just amazing. The cannabis
side, maybe not so much the
		
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			American side. But anyway, it's
breathtaking. And here's a
		
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			painting of Niagara Falls. And so
one of the things that we can see
		
01:11:23 --> 01:11:28
			right away, is that when we look
at the painting, there is a
		
01:11:28 --> 01:11:29
			framing that's going on.
		
01:11:31 --> 01:11:34
			When you think about the Niagara
Falls, if you've ever visited it,
		
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			you find that there's no concept
of framing your direct experience,
		
01:11:38 --> 01:11:42
			it's like there's no end from one
end to another, you're just taking
		
01:11:42 --> 01:11:46
			it all in, someone that's painting
the Niagara Falls or taking a
		
01:11:46 --> 01:11:51
			picture of Niagara Falls is going
to be limited by the frame. And
		
01:11:51 --> 01:11:55
			therefore there's going to be a
limitation. And so depending on
		
01:11:55 --> 01:11:59
			the person and the frame that
they've chosen, again, the human
		
01:11:59 --> 01:12:03
			side coming in, you could either
experience that video or not. But
		
01:12:03 --> 01:12:07
			being at the Niagara Falls, and
just seeing the vastness of the
		
01:12:07 --> 01:12:11
			Niagara Falls itself, this is a
different phenomenon altogether.
		
01:12:11 --> 01:12:14
			This is something that touches
much deeper within the human
		
01:12:14 --> 01:12:17
			being, these are two very
different experiences. So you find
		
01:12:17 --> 01:12:19
			the painting, you find,
		
01:12:20 --> 01:12:23
			you know, the fact that it is
framed, and the fact that there is
		
01:12:23 --> 01:12:26
			a certain bias depending on the
choice of the person who's doing
		
01:12:26 --> 01:12:31
			the painting. Okay, so when we
experience natural beauty, you
		
01:12:31 --> 01:12:34
			find the painting picture, there's
framing, there's a human angle and
		
01:12:34 --> 01:12:34
			a bias.
		
01:12:35 --> 01:12:42
			The natural world itself, it's
vast, open and endless. There's no
		
01:12:42 --> 01:12:46
			human angle or bias, it's direct,
right? You're directly
		
01:12:46 --> 01:12:51
			experiencing that the the the, the
the experience of beauty, right?
		
01:12:52 --> 01:12:56
			It's not contained. Right, it's
not contained in a certain frame
		
01:12:56 --> 01:13:01
			or a certain, a certain area,
rather, it's fast. And here's the
		
01:13:01 --> 01:13:04
			other thing, which is really
phenomenal, is that if you go to
		
01:13:04 --> 01:13:07
			somewhere like the Niagara Falls,
or let's say Mount Cook, if you've
		
01:13:07 --> 01:13:12
			ever been to New Zealand, and it's
a beautiful mountain pass, and
		
01:13:12 --> 01:13:13
			it's just gorgeous.
		
01:13:14 --> 01:13:16
			It makes you feel small,
		
01:13:17 --> 01:13:21
			like looking up at the night sky.
And that's a very interesting
		
01:13:21 --> 01:13:26
			phenomenon. Because on one hand,
you're experiencing the beauty,
		
01:13:26 --> 01:13:30
			let's say of the mountain or of
the falls, but at the same time
		
01:13:30 --> 01:13:33
			you have this type of this type of
fear.
		
01:13:34 --> 01:13:38
			Now I'm kind of using the word
fear, hear a bit loosely, we in
		
01:13:38 --> 01:13:42
			English, we call it all right, the
experience that you have, it's,
		
01:13:42 --> 01:13:46
			it's also in the sense it's
combining beauty and combining
		
01:13:46 --> 01:13:51
			fear kind of at the same time. And
it's a difficult experience to, to
		
01:13:51 --> 01:13:55
			verbalize to put into words.
Right. So someone says, Have you
		
01:13:55 --> 01:13:57
			seen the Niagara Falls, you just
gotta go there and check it out
		
01:13:57 --> 01:13:59
			yourself. Right. Okay.
		
01:14:01 --> 01:14:02
			So,
		
01:14:03 --> 01:14:08
			let's talk a little bit about all
and then I'll conclude, Inshallah,
		
01:14:08 --> 01:14:11
			because I know we are running
short on time. So
		
01:14:12 --> 01:14:16
			Michelle is Shioda and Dr.
Keltner, Decker, Keltner excuse
		
01:14:16 --> 01:14:19
			me, at the University California,
Berkeley, they've done a lot of
		
01:14:19 --> 01:14:24
			work and research in the idea and
the concept of art. So when they
		
01:14:24 --> 01:14:27
			wanted to define all they said,
All has been defined as an
		
01:14:27 --> 01:14:34
			emotional response to perceptually
vast stimuli that overwhelm
		
01:14:34 --> 01:14:37
			current mental structures yet
facilitate attempts at
		
01:14:37 --> 01:14:41
			accommodation. I think that's a
pretty, pretty good, pretty good
		
01:14:41 --> 01:14:43
			definition, right? If we're going
to try to
		
01:14:44 --> 01:14:48
			put the concept of onto words.
Now.
		
01:14:49 --> 01:14:54
			One of the, through their studies,
you know, Michelle Shioda and Dr.
		
01:14:55 --> 01:14:58
			Decker Keltner. Some of the work
that they've done, they came to
		
01:14:58 --> 01:14:59
			certain conclusions, so
		
01:15:00 --> 01:15:05
			One of the one of the conclusions
when it comes to experiencing art,
		
01:15:05 --> 01:15:08
			the conclusion they came to was
that it leads to decreased ego and
		
01:15:08 --> 01:15:12
			heightened cognition. All right.
Now let's stop for a second, we
		
01:15:12 --> 01:15:16
			started this conversation, we
started this, we started this
		
01:15:16 --> 01:15:22
			session with how can we know truth
as truth? And one of the things
		
01:15:22 --> 01:15:26
			is, is that and one of the one of
the thesis that I had put forth,
		
01:15:27 --> 01:15:32
			was that, that the more a person
experiences beauty, the more they
		
01:15:32 --> 01:15:36
			see truth as truth. In the studies
that they did, they found that
		
01:15:36 --> 01:15:41
			when a person was exposed to to
the natural world, it led to a
		
01:15:41 --> 01:15:45
			state of awe and what were the
what were the what were the what
		
01:15:45 --> 01:15:49
			were the, what were the results of
being exposed, or experiencing the
		
01:15:49 --> 01:15:54
			state of all, it was heightened
cognition, and a decreased ego. So
		
01:15:54 --> 01:15:58
			they were less self centered, and
more charitable. And we'll get
		
01:15:58 --> 01:16:02
			into, I don't know if we have the
time, but we'll try to touch upon
		
01:16:02 --> 01:16:06
			some of the studies. And one of
the things experiences that when
		
01:16:06 --> 01:16:10
			they were put to test when they're
given cognitive test, they found
		
01:16:10 --> 01:16:15
			that being experiencing all led to
a heightened cognition.
		
01:16:16 --> 01:16:19
			Now one of the things is, is that
when it comes to when a person is
		
01:16:19 --> 01:16:25
			going to accept the truth, these
are two things that can block a
		
01:16:25 --> 01:16:28
			person from the truth a, not being
able to understand it properly
		
01:16:28 --> 01:16:31
			lowered cognition, and that's
pretty clear. But the other thing
		
01:16:31 --> 01:16:35
			that blocks a person from the
truth can be their own ego and
		
01:16:35 --> 01:16:40
			arrogance, right, from an Islamic
worldview. We see that you know
		
01:16:40 --> 01:16:44
			that these are two key areas in
which a person can be blocked from
		
01:16:44 --> 01:16:49
			the truth. So the Hadith here from
Abdullah and Massoud radula, on
		
01:16:49 --> 01:16:54
			who said the proxy Salam said, no
one will enter paradise who has an
		
01:16:54 --> 01:16:57
			Adam's weight of arrogance in his
heart. And the man said, what if a
		
01:16:57 --> 01:17:02
			man likes his clothes to look
good? And his shoes to look good?
		
01:17:03 --> 01:17:07
			So the Prophet SAW Selim then
says, Allah is beautiful, and he
		
01:17:07 --> 01:17:11
			loves beauty. Hola, hola. Jamil.
Where your humble Japan right? In
		
01:17:11 --> 01:17:14
			Allah. Hi, Jimmy where you humble
Japan? So he says Allah is
		
01:17:14 --> 01:17:17
			beautiful and he loves beauty.
I'll Killebrew butter will have
		
01:17:17 --> 01:17:25
			wantonness that Kibber arrogance
is rejecting the truth and looking
		
01:17:25 --> 01:17:28
			down upon people, right? And why
do you look down upon people?
		
01:17:28 --> 01:17:31
			Well, it's because of arrogance,
right? Because of, you know,
		
01:17:31 --> 01:17:33
			that's why you look down or you
think that you're better than
		
01:17:33 --> 01:17:33
			them.
		
01:17:35 --> 01:17:38
			So what's interesting about this
particular narration, is that
		
01:17:38 --> 01:17:43
			there's a juxtaposition between
beauty and arrogance, which I
		
01:17:43 --> 01:17:46
			think is really fascinating,
right? That you have this concept
		
01:17:46 --> 01:17:49
			of beauty, and so on, and so
forth. And it being juxtaposed
		
01:17:49 --> 01:17:53
			with the concept of arrogance.
Now, let's get into some of the
		
01:17:53 --> 01:17:56
			studies. One of the studies that
was done, and I'll try to cover
		
01:17:56 --> 01:17:59
			these as quick as possible in sha
Allah
		
01:18:00 --> 01:18:04
			was the study of the effect on on
cognition. So what they did is
		
01:18:05 --> 01:18:09
			they expose people to various
natural phenomena, right, whether
		
01:18:09 --> 01:18:15
			that was mountains or nature in
some way. And then they would have
		
01:18:15 --> 01:18:20
			the have the participants listen
to a story for about five minutes,
		
01:18:20 --> 01:18:24
			the story was about a romantic
dinner. And these people went out
		
01:18:24 --> 01:18:27
			and it gets into some details, you
know, the guy was wearing a black
		
01:18:27 --> 01:18:30
			tuxedo, the woman was wearing a
dress, you know that the waiter
		
01:18:30 --> 01:18:33
			came, and yada, yada, yada, okay,
that goes into this whole story
		
01:18:33 --> 01:18:40
			five minutes. And then at the end,
the participant was asked, was
		
01:18:40 --> 01:18:44
			there a candle on the table? Now,
one of the things is that as human
		
01:18:44 --> 01:18:51
			beings, we take certain cognitive
shortcuts we use,
		
01:18:52 --> 01:18:57
			we use these cognitive shortcuts
to kind of fill in the gaps. All
		
01:18:57 --> 01:19:02
			right, so when you think about a
romantic dinner, you may by way of
		
01:19:02 --> 01:19:06
			like certain by waves or
cognition, you may assume there's
		
01:19:06 --> 01:19:09
			a candle on the table because of
what you already know about
		
01:19:09 --> 01:19:12
			romantic dinners. In this story,
there wasn't one.
		
01:19:14 --> 01:19:17
			So those, you know those.
		
01:19:19 --> 01:19:21
			Well, I'm forgetting the term now.
They're called
		
01:19:23 --> 01:19:27
			Well, it'll come back to me in
Sharla stuff a lot. All right. So
		
01:19:28 --> 01:19:32
			those cognitive shortcuts that
that that are taken, kind of place
		
01:19:32 --> 01:19:35
			a candle on the table. Now the
people that were subjected to to
		
01:19:35 --> 01:19:39
			the natural world In other words,
you experiencing ah, they answered
		
01:19:40 --> 01:19:43
			the correct they exited correctly,
that there was no candle more
		
01:19:43 --> 01:19:48
			often that people were not subject
to All right, so you have the the
		
01:19:48 --> 01:19:51
			first study script Selvin script
relevant false items. Wasn't a
		
01:19:51 --> 01:19:54
			candlelit table, correct answers
No. Those people that experienced
		
01:19:54 --> 01:19:57
			all you see on the graph there,
that they answered it correctly,
		
01:19:57 --> 01:19:59
			more often than those who were
		
01:20:00 --> 01:20:02
			or we're neutral, not exposed to
all.
		
01:20:04 --> 01:20:09
			All right, all awakens the mind.
Alright, so now we're looking at
		
01:20:09 --> 01:20:13
			various emotions. So when someone
is in a state of awe, they did
		
01:20:13 --> 01:20:15
			that by exposing people to nature,
when they were instead of
		
01:20:15 --> 01:20:20
			enthusiasm, contentment, pride,
all went out 100% of the time when
		
01:20:20 --> 01:20:24
			it came to to cognition, and
sharpening and heightening one's
		
01:20:24 --> 01:20:28
			cognition. All right, what about
ego? So in the studies that they
		
01:20:28 --> 01:20:32
			were done, what they came to the
conclusion was, was that when
		
01:20:32 --> 01:20:35
			people experience are, they go
from self interest to collective
		
01:20:35 --> 01:20:38
			interest. So they stop thinking
they think less of themselves and
		
01:20:38 --> 01:20:42
			more about the general populace
from isolate itself to integrate
		
01:20:42 --> 01:20:45
			itself, they started thinking, as
opposed to them thinking of
		
01:20:45 --> 01:20:47
			themselves as individuals, they
started to think of themselves as
		
01:20:47 --> 01:20:52
			a community. And it broke, and
there was a breakdown of the us
		
01:20:52 --> 01:20:56
			versus them thinking against from
the same study. So odd diminishes
		
01:20:56 --> 01:20:59
			the ego. And this study that they
did is they had people draw
		
01:20:59 --> 01:21:03
			themselves in relation to,
		
01:21:04 --> 01:21:06
			you know, in relation to the
environment that they're in. So
		
01:21:06 --> 01:21:11
			one place where they had people do
this, excuse me, was a Fisherman's
		
01:21:11 --> 01:21:14
			Wharf in San Francisco. Now, this
is a place where there's, it's a
		
01:21:14 --> 01:21:18
			lot of people, it's the city
center, it's when people are
		
01:21:18 --> 01:21:23
			drawing themselves, they drew
themselves much bigger in relation
		
01:21:23 --> 01:21:28
			to the in relation to the to the
city and the landscape of this,
		
01:21:28 --> 01:21:31
			the cityscape that they're drawing
around them. Yet, when they were
		
01:21:31 --> 01:21:35
			taken up to the mountains, and
they were asked to draw
		
01:21:35 --> 01:21:39
			themselves, they drew themselves
much smaller as compared to the
		
01:21:39 --> 01:21:43
			landscape that they were drawing,
right. So they saw themselves as
		
01:21:43 --> 01:21:48
			smaller in the natural landscape,
as opposed to seeing themselves as
		
01:21:48 --> 01:21:53
			being much bigger in the city, the
cityscape right? Now, obviously,
		
01:21:53 --> 01:21:56
			they did other tests and other
questions related to you know,
		
01:21:56 --> 01:21:59
			what do you think about charity,
and other people, and so on, so
		
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			forth as part of this study. And
what they found is that it
		
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			decreases one's ego. What's really
interesting is in the Islamic
		
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			paradigm, the word for ego is
Kibera, which comes from Cubby, it
		
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			should be big. So when you think
of yourself as big, it's actually
		
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			it's the word in, in in Arabic for
ego or arrogance, rather. And one
		
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			of the interesting things is, is
that the Prophet Muhammad peace be
		
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			upon him, he said, the people with
the most ego on the Day of
		
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			Judgment will be like ants, and
people will be stepping on them,
		
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			meaning they falsely thought of
themselves as big. And on the Day
		
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			of Judgment, there's a physical
manifestation of being the exact
		
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			opposite of that being the
smallest thing, which is ants and
		
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			being stepped on. Anyhow. So all
amplifies humility. On the small
		
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			self, the subjects were asked to
draw themselves in the
		
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			cosmopolitan environment, we just
talked about that perceptions of
		
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			vastness, humility, and we'll,
we'll hopefully publish these
		
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			slides a little bit. So what was
the central thesis, the central
		
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			thesis was, the greater your
exposure to beauty, the greater
		
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			your ability to see truth as it
really is, that doesn't mean that
		
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			you're going to stop thinking and
not use your cognitive senses, or
		
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			you're not going to stop, you're
not going to use rationality. But
		
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			now we understand that when a
person wants to reach truth, they
		
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			need to engage with not only, you
know, not only gauge on a level of
		
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			rationality, but in addition to
that they need to engage with the
		
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			natural world and engage with
beauty. Right, as an experience,
		
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			and one of the things that, you
know, perhaps the next part of
		
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			this presentation would be, would
be how does that relate to the
		
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			revelation?
		
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			ie the Quran from the Islamic
paradigm, right? So you have
		
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			here related to the Quran, the
Quran gives what we call signs or
		
01:23:54 --> 01:23:58
			ayat, and they're always pointing,
a lot of times are pointing not
		
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			all the time, but they're pointing
towards the natural world. And so
		
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			you have Angelica Neuwirth, when
her in her forward on this book
		
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			for the Quran, the aesthetics of
pre modern Arabic prose. She has a
		
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			really interesting story she says
it is it is in the end of the
		
01:24:15 --> 01:24:21
			pagans verdict from Surah Qamar
the verdict of his Saba Sahara
		
01:24:21 --> 01:24:25
			Albanian, his transformation of
the world into a sign system
		
01:24:25 --> 01:24:31
			transcending empirical reality.
Very interesting, that is allowed
		
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			to epitomize the Quran
hermeneutical achievement. And it
		
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			goes back to this idea that the
Quran is constantly pulling you
		
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			and asking us to reflect upon the
natural world. And there's a
		
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			reason for that. Because when we
do that, we're getting closer and
		
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			closer to the truth. Right? And by
extension, I'm going to backtrack
		
01:24:50 --> 01:24:53
			to something you know, finish it
off here. By extension when a
		
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			person goes down that route
engages with the Quran engages
		
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			with what the Quran is instructing
the person to do.
		
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			They'll find that in the end,
they're able to see truth as
		
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			truth. Truth being not only a
rational, not being something not
		
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			being only limited to rationality,
but having other means by which to
		
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			get to it in addition to
rationality. So those means could
		
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			be exposure to beauty, they could
be spiritual,
		
01:25:23 --> 01:25:28
			by way of having certain spiritual
acts like calling out to God, and
		
01:25:28 --> 01:25:33
			other things, other
phenomenological areas and, you
		
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			know, thinking deeply about
things, and so on and so forth,
		
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			which is outside the scope of what
we're talking about in this
		
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			particular presentation. But
hopefully, the thesis that I was
		
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			trying to present and that was
that beauty leads to truth.
		
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			Hopefully, we've substantiated
that in some one way or another,
		
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			and then allow the, the, you know,
allow you, the one who's this in
		
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			this presentation to kind of
explore this area, a bit more on
		
01:25:58 --> 01:26:02
			your own, by way of the Quran is
what I would encourage, and just
		
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			by spending more time in nature,
so I'll go ahead and stop there.
		
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			We'll open up for some questions.
I know we've been going on for a
		
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			little while. So
		
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			let's see what we got.
		
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			Okay.
		
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			All right. Wow.
		
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			Okay. Wow, there's a lot of
comments.
		
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			So if you have questions, go ahead
and post them, we'll take them for
		
01:26:34 --> 01:26:37
			another maybe seven to eight
minutes, I think.
		
01:26:39 --> 01:26:41
			Maybe another 10 minutes, if we
need to.
		
01:26:46 --> 01:26:48
			All right. So most of the
questions have to do with my
		
01:26:48 --> 01:26:52
			electricity going out. So like,
where do you go, what happened?
		
01:26:54 --> 01:26:56
			But if you do have questions, go
in and post them now. So I can
		
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			take a look at them. And if you
don't, then that's fine, too. All
		
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			right.
		
01:27:09 --> 01:27:10
			Okay.
		
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			Let's see.
		
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			I don't really see any questions
unless I'm missing something.
		
01:27:27 --> 01:27:31
			We got some questions for
pondering soul. So I'll let him
		
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			handle those questions on his own.
		
01:27:38 --> 01:27:41
			Yeah, nothing. So if you have
anything related to topic, go
		
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			ahead and post them if not.
		
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			Okay, so here's a good question
how to prove you must obey God. So
		
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			I'm hoping that one of the things
that we've transcended is the idea
		
01:27:55 --> 01:27:59
			of having to prove everything.
Right. Now, I'm not saying that we
		
01:27:59 --> 01:28:02
			can't prove it. I'm just saying
that this sort of mindset about
		
01:28:02 --> 01:28:06
			having to prove every single
question that we want to kind of
		
01:28:06 --> 01:28:11
			not jump right into that scenario
and say, Okay, well, I'm gonna,
		
01:28:11 --> 01:28:14
			I've got to find a way to prove
it. Right. That being said, when
		
01:28:14 --> 01:28:19
			it comes to the idea of obeying
God, it starts with the idea of
		
01:28:19 --> 01:28:22
			believing in God and what is your,
what is your concept of God?
		
01:28:23 --> 01:28:27
			Because if we believe that,
indeed, God is the Creator of
		
01:28:27 --> 01:28:32
			everything, he is an Harlock, then
it links to his worship, if it's
		
01:28:32 --> 01:28:36
			true, that He created you, and he
knows, right, he has knowledge of
		
01:28:36 --> 01:28:39
			everything, then the things that
He has commanded by, you know,
		
01:28:39 --> 01:28:44
			just as a simple kind of, we
understand this logically, that
		
01:28:44 --> 01:28:48
			you should then submit to God and
obey God because He knows more
		
01:28:48 --> 01:28:53
			than you. Right? He has knowledge
that is vast, he is maximally
		
01:28:53 --> 01:28:58
			perfect is knowledge. Similarly,
he is also a bird, he is the good,
		
01:28:58 --> 01:29:02
			he's a romance we wants good for
you. So it's not like Okay, so if
		
01:29:02 --> 01:29:04
			you know about God, you would miss
trust God or anything like that.
		
01:29:05 --> 01:29:10
			And so when we start to study who
Allah is, that in and of itself
		
01:29:10 --> 01:29:15
			would lead a person to obeying
God, every single person, and this
		
01:29:15 --> 01:29:20
			is part of our fitrah, which, as
we come up with, as we'll be
		
01:29:20 --> 01:29:25
			talking about, and other series,
every person, part of their fitrah
		
01:29:25 --> 01:29:30
			is the need to worship the need to
love something and submit to
		
01:29:30 --> 01:29:34
			something that's part and parcel
of our Constitution of our fitrah.
		
01:29:35 --> 01:29:40
			Right now that worship can either
be directed towards Allah, or it
		
01:29:40 --> 01:29:45
			can be directed towards something
else. So you will either love
		
01:29:45 --> 01:29:51
			Allah or you'll love yourself,
your money, your spouse, right?
		
01:29:51 --> 01:29:52
			They're not saying you don't you
know, love those things, but
		
01:29:52 --> 01:29:56
			obviously a love of Allah comes
before all of that. Okay. So
		
01:29:56 --> 01:29:59
			worship is part and parcel of our
fitrah
		
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			We have a need to worship. The
question is, who is worthy of
		
01:30:04 --> 01:30:09
			worship? Is if if I'm, if I'm
submitting and to myself, and I
		
01:30:09 --> 01:30:13
			have love for myself, but I'm a
limited being, I have cognitive
		
01:30:13 --> 01:30:20
			biases, right? I have limitations.
So am I really truly worthy of
		
01:30:20 --> 01:30:23
			submitting to myself? Am I truly
the one that I should love more
		
01:30:23 --> 01:30:27
			than anyone else? Of course, we're
talking here love from the
		
01:30:27 --> 01:30:29
			perspective of ego pride.
		
01:30:30 --> 01:30:32
			Or is that love and that
submission?
		
01:30:34 --> 01:30:38
			Due to the one that's worthy of
that? So, hopefully that answered
		
01:30:38 --> 01:30:43
			that. Okay, if you try to someone
mentioned, I don't know if there's
		
01:30:43 --> 01:30:46
			a comment. If you try to point out
the beauty of this world, how the
		
01:30:46 --> 01:30:50
			sky looks on a dark sky, even from
a micro perspective, how gigantic
		
01:30:50 --> 01:30:53
			Allah has made space. They
respond, Yes, it is all
		
01:30:53 --> 01:30:58
			scientific. Yeah, that's one of
the one of the issues, right, the
		
01:30:58 --> 01:30:59
			one of the,
		
01:31:00 --> 01:31:05
			the, the fact that we live in the
modern world, where science has
		
01:31:05 --> 01:31:06
			been taken to be
		
01:31:07 --> 01:31:11
			a type of holy grail in which
that, you know, if it doesn't make
		
01:31:11 --> 01:31:14
			sense scientifically, or you can
call could prove something
		
01:31:14 --> 01:31:18
			scientifically, then it becomes
invalid. And the reality is, is
		
01:31:18 --> 01:31:23
			that while science, again, can
give us a lot of benefit, but
		
01:31:23 --> 01:31:27
			there are certain questions that
science can't answer. metaphysical
		
01:31:27 --> 01:31:31
			questions, science deals with the
physical, the physical world,
		
01:31:31 --> 01:31:36
			metaphysical questions are outside
of the scope of science. So we
		
01:31:36 --> 01:31:38
			there are certain questions that
science just can't deal with.
		
01:31:38 --> 01:31:40
			Right? Science has its
limitations.
		
01:31:41 --> 01:31:45
			You know, and so, what I'll
recommend is that if, you know,
		
01:31:45 --> 01:31:50
			there's a section in the book by
Hamza Hamza sources, the divine
		
01:31:50 --> 01:31:53
			reality, which speaks about this
in you know, has science disproven
		
01:31:53 --> 01:31:57
			God, I highly recommend you take a
look through it and go through it.
		
01:31:57 --> 01:31:57
			Okay.
		
01:31:59 --> 01:32:02
			How can we know that our fitrah is
not clouded because for many
		
01:32:02 --> 01:32:06
			people nowadays in doctrine to
liberalism and belief as an axiom,
		
01:32:06 --> 01:32:11
			so if the majority majority
they've deceived easily.
		
01:32:13 --> 01:32:16
			Okay, so I'm going to try to
answer the first part of the
		
01:32:16 --> 01:32:21
			question. This is where revelation
comes in. Right. And one of the
		
01:32:21 --> 01:32:23
			things that we understand is that
there are certain things that are
		
01:32:23 --> 01:32:27
			part of our fitrah. But when it
comes to some of the details, this
		
01:32:27 --> 01:32:31
			is where revelation enhances our
fitrah. And we're able to have a
		
01:32:31 --> 01:32:36
			clearer idea of what is correct
and versus what is incorrect.
		
01:32:36 --> 01:32:40
			Right? There's a very interesting
Hadith of the Prophet SAW Selim,
		
01:32:40 --> 01:32:41
			where he mentions that
		
01:32:44 --> 01:32:49
			where he mentions that, that,
that, that there is like a path if
		
01:32:49 --> 01:32:52
			I'm remembering the Hadith
correctly, that there's a path.
		
01:32:52 --> 01:32:58
			And on both sides of this path are
two walls. And there are doors on
		
01:32:58 --> 01:33:02
			these walls that have curtains
upon them. And there is a voice
		
01:33:02 --> 01:33:05
			that's calling from the top, and
the voice that's calling from the
		
01:33:05 --> 01:33:11
			end. And these walls are the, the
limits of Allah, the hadith of
		
01:33:11 --> 01:33:14
			Allah, the the place that we're
not supposed to transcend, you're
		
01:33:14 --> 01:33:16
			not supposed to go, you're not
supposed to transgress these
		
01:33:16 --> 01:33:20
			limits, right, you're going to
enter into the haram. And each one
		
01:33:20 --> 01:33:23
			of these has a door. And every
time a person goes towards one of
		
01:33:23 --> 01:33:26
			these doors and tries to open the
curtain, a voice says Stop, stop,
		
01:33:26 --> 01:33:31
			keep moving forward. All right.
Now, that voice the Prophet system
		
01:33:31 --> 01:33:36
			described it. So that motivation
for moving forward on that path
		
01:33:36 --> 01:33:38
			was the process is described as
its route and was the pain, the
		
01:33:38 --> 01:33:42
			straight path, one of those voices
is the voice inside of each and
		
01:33:42 --> 01:33:47
			every single believer, and the and
the objective at the end and the
		
01:33:47 --> 01:33:52
			voice at the end, the province has
been described as the Quran. And
		
01:33:52 --> 01:33:55
			so when we go to like, for
instance, I had to do Allahu Allah
		
01:33:55 --> 01:33:58
			subhana wa T will ordered, and we
analyze the receipt of that it
		
01:33:59 --> 01:34:03
			ends off by saying New Roman Allah
nor the new the light of the
		
01:34:03 --> 01:34:08
			fitrah coupled with the light of
revelation, that is the thing that
		
01:34:08 --> 01:34:14
			we're able to move forward with,
and have this type of cognitive,
		
01:34:14 --> 01:34:19
			psycho spiritual stability.
Otherwise, you won't know because
		
01:34:19 --> 01:34:25
			of the environment that you're in
what is truly natural, versus what
		
01:34:25 --> 01:34:28
			you should or should not be doing.
etc. So I hope I answered that.
		
01:34:29 --> 01:34:31
			We'll go in and stop there. That's
the I think that's the last one we
		
01:34:31 --> 01:34:34
			have the last question we can deal
with.
		
01:34:35 --> 01:34:38
			So with that said, may Allah
subhanho wa Taala bless everyone.
		
01:34:39 --> 01:34:43
			May Allah subhanho wa Taala accept
everyone's you know, coming to the
		
01:34:43 --> 01:34:47
			session bearing with the
electricity going out. It's
		
01:34:47 --> 01:34:51
			raining quite hard here in
Houston. So I appreciate your
		
01:34:51 --> 01:34:53
			patience. May Allah subhanaw taala
reward you for that. May Allah
		
01:34:53 --> 01:34:58
			accept all of your efforts, your
deeds, and I ask Allah subhanho wa
		
01:34:58 --> 01:34:59
			Taala to forgive me for any
shortcuts.
		
01:35:00 --> 01:35:05
			means if there were any mistakes,
any, anything that I said that was
		
01:35:05 --> 01:35:08
			incorrect or anything that I've
said was even offensive then that
		
01:35:08 --> 01:35:12
			is all for myself and from
Shaytaan any sort of benefit any
		
01:35:12 --> 01:35:16
			sort of benefit that you may have
received from this session it is
		
01:35:16 --> 01:35:22
			all from Allah subhanho wa Taala
Zack Mala head Subhanak Allahumma
		
01:35:22 --> 01:35:25
			will be having a shadow a La ilaha
illa Astok Furukawa two way Lake
		
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			wa salam aleikum wa rahmatullah.