Ali Ataie – The End Times Dr NBF 284 Dr Shadee Elmasry
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Today, I wanna first make an announcement that
a a person I've been following for a
while on on Twitter. And as
some of you may know, I,
came up I got back on Twitter after
having
tried to go close to nature, get a
goat. That turned out into a catastrophe.
K? And I have to go to court
for that.
And,
but I'm back on because I couldn't resist
answering some of these people. His name is
the truth shepherd.
That's the,
the the name that he goes by.
Master Allah, it's a shepherd of truth at
truth shepherd.
He's posted really good stuff on Philistine,
on Gaza.
And I'm like, who is this guy? He
is wearing a cowboy hat and everything. It's
an AI picture, but,
well, today, he said, today, I proudly took
my and was welcomed into Islam. Islam is
the truth that by witness there is no
god but Allah, and Muhammad is master of
Allah. I was talking once a while back
with Sheikha. He wrote a Sheikha Asad Fahmi,
and I was saying, you know, these
Iraq, Afghanistan,
you know, former military,
these guys?
I believe these guys are actually
far closer to accepting Islam than what people
imagine.
They have, like, an, an emotional hatred for
Islam,
alright, that results just from their wars. But
when they're comparing if you look at what
Islam is bringing to the table in United
States versus what liberalism is bringing,
they would naturally align with Islam.
And what is liberalism bringing other than
because of the failure of Christianity?
It just failed. Failed to to stop this
this this disease
of liberalism and wokeness,
and that's what they're fearing.
Okay? There is a cold
there's a cold civil war in America.
And those guys, I would say, if they
just looked at Islam
sincerely, they're gonna love it, and it's happening.
There's another person just took their shahada recently,
and this
is someone who I've seen in some of
the comments of my page, and I,
saw some of her posts. Her name is
Ali Forza,
and this is,
not a political commentator. She she likes the
spiritual posts
that different she have put up. And she
also declared
right here on Twitter that she entered Islam.
So
I truly believe, and I've said it many
times,
Islam will find a home in America, meaning
many, many, many, many, millions upon millions upon
millions of hearts will Islam will enter into
it. And once that happens, you can't remove
that religion from that land.
Of course. Now let's get to our subject.
The end of time is an important subject
in Islam,
and it also has its own stories in
Judaism
and in Christianity.
And we're gonna do a comparison, and we're
gonna see how these things line up. And
is there a group out there well, there
is. Obviously, we wouldn't be doing this.
That believes that we're actually on the cusp
of something.
Therefore, we have to take action.
Most importantly, they're capable of taking major action
that influence
you and me and men millions of other
people. That's why this is relevant today.
This is not just theory and storytelling about
the end of times. Nobody cares about that,
k,
about other religions end of times. They have
influence and impact. And with that, we have,
really, who's becoming one of the pretty much
go to resident experts on comparative religion, specifically
Judaism
and Christianity,
very well versed in the Bible, very well
versed in the Torah.
Reverse orientalism is happening here. Speaks Hebrew.
Doctor Adi Atay.
Welcome to the Safina Society Nothing But Facts
livestream.
Thank you for having me. How are you?
Very good. Very good. Of course, you all
know doctor Adi Atay
from the blogging theology,
live streams. The blogging theology live streams, I
recommend you you watch this.
We plan on picking off picking up where
they left off.
So I watched
3 or 4 of them. I think you've
been on me 3 or 4 times
talking about Christianity. But one time recently about
radical Judaism.
And I I watched that, whole whole,
program,
and I wanna pick up
sort of where you you you you left
off.
For the for the viewers, if you wanna
hear about the
fundamental,
tenets of Judaism, you go to that one.
The first half is about that. I wanna
go into this end times of Judaism.
And mainly, the first question I have to
ask
is an epistemological question.
This is the boring question in terms of
the drama and the juicy stuff, but it's
the most important one.
Is the end time described directly in the
word of god as Jews believe it to
be the Torah?
So,
there are passages in the Hebrew Bible, right,
the Tanakh,
especially in
Isaiah in the book of Ezekiel,
the book of Zechariah,
that Orthodox or I guess we can say
traditional or normative
Jewish authorities believe
are describing the end times.
Now, Jews have an interesting
way of reading these texts, right? So
they believe in this idea
that,
Jewish sacred text is is polyvalent
that's called the peshat
or, like, I guess we can call it
sort of the vahir meaning of the text,
the apparent clear clear meaning of the text,
the apparent meaning.
But, scripture is also sort of oracular, it's
sort of foreshadowing
things to happen in the future.
So for example,
the,
in Zachariah chapter,
12, there's this
description of someone who's going to be pierced,
and he's a great sort of general or
military leader. Now this could have been referring
to somebody at that time when this book
was actually written.
But according to this principle,
that there's multiple layers of meaning in the
text.
Most Jewish authorities would say that this is
also foreshadowing
the death of 1 of the 2 messiahs
that's going to come towards the end of
time. So this is another interesting thing is
that most people don't know this, but, most
Jews, at least the traditional, the Orthodox, I
mean, these terms are a little bit, I
don't, we have to sort of unpack them
a little bit,
terms are a little bit,
I don't we have to sort of unpack
them a little bit more,
but we'll just use the term traditional. In
traditional Judaism,
which is, you know, belief in the
the the Tanakh and the Talmud,
there's this belief in 2 messiahs
that are going to come towards the end
of time,
Right? So Zechariah chapter 12 is actually describing
the martyrdom
of what they call the Josephine
Messiah. Okay? So there's 2 Messiahs.
The first Messiah that's going to come,
is called the Moshiach Ben Yosef.
So the Messiah son of Joseph.
So this is a military leader,
who's again, there's indications of him in the
Tanakh. He's more fleshed out in the Talmud
and in the Midrashim, you know, the sort
of tafasir, if you will,
in the in the traditional,
in the classical tradition.
So this is someone who's going to come,
he's going to fight
against
Gog and Magog or Edom as so Edom,
this is you know the the the rabbinical
authorities in the Talmud, they use all these
sort of weird terms, kind of these ciphers
to sort of it's kind of coded language.
So Edom is actually a reference to
Rome or Christianity,
Christian Europe, something like that. All of these
are sort of called Edom.
So so the Josephine Messiah is going to
fight against Europeans essentially or against Christians,
and he's going to be murdered by them.
He's going to be pierced somehow. They're going
to impale him or something. Why is he
called the Josephine Messiah? Well, because,
he
his father is from
one of the tribes of Joseph, either Ephraim
or Manasseh,
and his mother's from David.
So he's, he's he's a Josephine Messiah. But
then when he's he's martyred,
then someone called Moshiach
Hamalek Ben David will arrive on the scene.
So this is the
Davidic King Messiah, and this is sort of
the Messiah now for the for the Jews.
This is the real this is the main
guy right here. Right? So this Messiah,
he will deal with according to
Jewish authorities, he's really gonna deal more with
sort of the Muslims.
Right? Ishmael, as they say, Ishmael.
And basically, he's going to,
conquer the world,
through,
a type of military
campaign.
And then he's going to basically implement the
Torah as
the law of the world,
right,
and rule from Jerusalem.
So that's basically what it is in a
nutshell. So that's a little known fact that
Jews actually believe in 2 major messiahs. Now
if you look in the Old Testament, a
lot of people are called Messiah,
Right? The term Messiah is a bit ubiquitous
in the Old Testament. In Old Testament, this
is Christian terminology.
Right?
So Christians call it the old testament.
The the Jews call it the Tanakh,
which stands for Torah, nabim keto bim.
We can also call it the Hebrew Bible.
So in the Tanakh,
different types of people are called Messiah
Moshiach.
So you have king messiahs
like David and Solomon,
but also Gentiles like Cyrus
in Isaiah 45:1. Right?
And the Lord said to his Moshiach,
Koresh, who's who's Cyrus,
which is kind of interesting because,
there was this trend going
going down a few years ago. Some people
thought Trump was some sort of messiah
because Isaiah 45 1. Right? And Trump is
number 45 and
Wow. The capital of to to Jerusalem.
So they saw sort of these messianic
descriptions in him.
So kings are called messiah and then priests
are called messiah,
like the sons of Aaron,
they're called messiahs, and then prophets are also
called messiahs.
Right?
But when we're dealing with these with the
sort of eschatology of Judaism,
the focus is really on these 2 main
messiahs and really on that last one, that
is the messiah.
Okay?
And then certain things sort of have to
happen.
So so how do you know that this
is How how do Jews know that this
is the actual Messiah? Well,
the rabbis, they say that there are certain
indications that he has to
fulfill basically,
in order for him to qualify as the
Messiah. So there was a there was a
second century,
Jewish leader named Simon Bar Kokhba,
who was endorsed as being the Messiah
in the 2nd century in Palestine.
And, actually, Rabbi Ativa, who was probably the
greatest,
of the what's known as the Tana'im or
the 1st or second century sort of Jewish
rabbis authorities,
He endorsed Barkopa as being the Messiah.
Barkopa actually,
was able to defeat the Romans at Fort
Antonia
temple mount as it were. He
he was starting to,
mint coins.
He was intending on bringing back the sacrifices.
He was going to rebuild the temple, but
then he was killed by the Romans.
So
he was not the Messiah,
because the Messiah according to
and traditional authorities,
is not only from the seed of David,
and not only will he bring back
the what's known as the Malkuth David, the
the sort of,
throne or rule of David,
but he will also inaugurate
an in gathering of the Jews from diaspora.
It's called the kibbutzgalut.
This is something that he has to do.
So,
Simon Bar Kokhba was viewed by many as
being the
the messiah that time. Hadrian then essentially committed
a holocaust against them all.
He did. And he wiped out a massive,
massive percentage of
the Jews that existed at that time.
So Yeah. How do they then explain that?
Do they just say, we got it wrong.
He wasn't the messiah?
Yeah. So basically,
Akiva was wrong. I mean, he was a
good candidate.
Mhmm. Right?
But ultimately,
messiah cannot be killed. So that that's that's
the the deal breaker. K. Right? If he's
killed, then he's,
he's not the messiah.
You know, one of my rabbi colleagues told
the story. He said that a Christian one
time,
was speaking to him and and the Christian
said, you know, this
this,
your greatest your greatest rabbi from the 2nd
century, rabbi Akiva,
he made a mistake. He thought the Messiah
was the wrong person. So in other words,
you're probably making a mistake. Jesus is the
Messiah.
And then so
the rabbi said to him, well, why wasn't
why wasn't Bar Kokhba the Messiah?
And the Christian said, well, he didn't fulfill
everything the Messiah was going to do, and
the Romans killed him. Yeah. And then the
rabbi said, well, you know, there you go,
you know.
This is why this is why we reject
at least your version of Yeah. Of Jesus,
peace be upon him,
because he didn't fulfill at least,
what
is traditionally
known to be
considered to be sort of these criteria for
the for the Davidic Messiah, and then he
was killed by the Romans.
Let me let's let's since we're on the
subject of Jesus, let me ask you a
simple question.
We often know that it's anti Semitic to
say that the rabbis are responsible for
the,
killing of Jesus of Christ in in the
Christian worldview.
And that really was the Romans who did
it,
because he was a rebel. Right?
But there's also pretty much known that he
only had 12 followers.
So why would the Romans really care about
a rebel with only 12 followers?
Story doesn't add up.
Yeah. I mean, it's, you're right. It's it's
not PC.
The New Testament is very clear. The New
Testament,
basically paints the Romans as just the instrument
Yeah. Kind of just being used by this
kind of bloodthirsty Jewish
crowd. Mhmm.
And then Maimonides,
when he speaks of Esa alaihi salaam,
he's very proud to take credit
for his death, he doesn't even actually mention
the Romans.
Why do the Gospels mention the Romans?
I I don't that's a good question. I
don't know.
You know, Pontius Pilate is certainly depicted in
the gospels.
Maybe the
the gospel authors wanted to sort of aggrandize
the Jesus movement because it wasn't very big
apparently
and sort of
depicted as being
very popular, something that was, very consequential for
its time.
But they were very careful not to
indite Roman authorities
as being complicit in the death of Jesus.
Mhmm. It was this this bloodthirsty rabble,
that's calling for his death.
So in the gospel of Matthew, of course,
you know, Pontius Pilate
washes his hands and says, I am
I am innocent of the blood of this
man. You want to crucify him, then you
you can do it. Yeah. Right?
Yeah. This type of thing.
But my monarchy says, no. We we,
we judged him in the bait dean in
the Sanhedrin.
He was found guilty of blasphemy and then,
we, we killed him. Mhmm. And and the
Talmud goes in a little bit more into
specifics as to how it was
probably done because the worst types of criminals,
they were stoned
Mhmm. Till death and then their bodies were
crucified post mortem
to act as a deterrent. Yeah. That was
the worst way to to go. So this
is what this is what Jewish sources
say happened to to Jesus of of Nazareth.
But, yeah, there's no Roman involvement in
in, in in Maimonides.
And then the whole depiction of Pilate,
does not sort of match what we have
as far as other historical sources like Philo
and and Josephus. Pilate
was Pilate would not have a an Adam's
weight of compunction
to squat any type of rebellion from any
Jew. I mean, he was made a career
of crucifying,
Jews.
Yeah. But the new testament is clear. I
mean, Paul, who is a Jew, right, he's
writing first Thessalonians.
This is,
this is his first, epistle according to almost
a consensus of New Testament scholars, and Paul
says in first first Thessalonians chapter 2 verse
14 and 15
that describing the Jews, they killed the Lord
Jesus and and their own prophets to persecute
us,
in our country, they please not God and
are contrary to all men. Right? And so
this verse is,
notorious,
as being sort of held up as this,
sort of,
something emblematic
of New Testament antisemitism.
And there's other passages
as well. Of course,
this whole idea of
of I mean, we can probably talk about
this in the context of of Zionism, this
idea of modern dispensationalism
that the Jewish covenant,
remains open.
This is totally foreign to traditional Christianity, and
it's very, very clear if you read the
old if you read the new testament,
that,
that the Jews have been to a certain
degree replaced. There's a new covenant.
Right, and that covenant is established,
with Jesus.
So belief in Jesus is without question. You
have to believe that Jesus is the Messiah,
which is again, a position that is held
today by
millions of Christian Zionists. And where does this
actually come from? I think we can actually
trace this
to to a certain person that maybe we
can talk about that, but this is totally
foreign to traditional Christianity. It's completely foreign.
So,
let's talk now before we get into how
the Zionists
have, gone onto this, or sorry, the evangelicals
have gotten onto the Zionist wave.
Let's tell us more about the the Jewish
Messiah. He's got to rule from Jerusalem.
He's gonna bring all the Jews into
the holy land. Yeah. He's going to
be the most powerful king in the world
Yeah. And apply the Torah laws
everywhere in the world. Yep.
Is there it's are there signs of his
coming the way we would have signs of
the end of time?
Do they have a similar concept? Okay.
When this happens, this happens, this time, then
expect the Messiah.
Yeah. So generally,
when,
I think
most most traditional orthodox would agree with this.
Mhmm. That generally, when the Jews,
engage in what's known as Teshuvah, the Teshuvah
movement, when Jews sort of come back to
God
Teshuvah. Teshuvah. Exactly.
When they when they repent to God, when
there's sort of a global
returning to God,
then God will send the Messiah. So the
the rabbi say that in in every generation,
there's there's a potential messiah,
but God will, in a sense, sort of,
assess
the,
devotion of his people,
the children of Israel. And if they're in
a good state, if they're moving towards Toba
or Teshuvah,
then God will raise that person as as
the Messiah. But if not, then that person
will just simply they'll die
and time will move on.
So that's in the general sense.
Now
there there are other, traditional authorities, other orthodox
rabbis, contemporary rabbis today
that have unfortunately
bought into the Zionist
blasphemy,
which is not traditional Judaism,
but they try to incorporate Zionist principles into
their understanding of orthodoxy
who say things like, well,
there's nothing wrong with having
a Jewish state. It's actually
something that we can find evidence for in
the old testament.
So they look at these sort of obscure
passages in the Tanakh,
when there's so in other words, we can
sort of get the ball moving.
Mhmm. We can start
a,
we could start coming back to the holy
land.
We can,
start settling in the land. We can take
power.
We're gonna start planting fruits and things like
that,
and we'll raise up our civilization.
And so this will be sort of the,
the beginning of the redemption as they say.
Mhmm. So so in other words, when the
Holy Land,
becomes more and more Jewish,
at least in its orientation,
then this is a sign,
that the Messiah will come because we've started
the redemption. Again, this whole idea is completely
foreign to traditional Judaism prior to a 150
years ago.
Prior to a 150 years ago, every Jew
on the planet believed that exile was divinely
decreed that it was actually,
rebellion against God
to,
try to go back to the Holy Land
or to any land and establish some sort
of Jewish nation.
The Jew was to be diasporic until the
coming of the Messiah. The Messiah will start
everything.
You don't you don't get the ball moving
and then wait for the Messiah to come
and finish the job. Right?
But if we're talking about most orthodox today
who unfortunately,
have degrees of Zionism
in sort of in their in their sort
of minds, I guess you can say. Yeah.
You do have this idea that he'll be
from the seat of David,
the the
the throne of David will return,
that he will inaugurate
or he will continue,
he will complete
the ingathering of the Jews from diaspora.
They mentioned things like he'll be a Shofetz
said that he'll be a right a righteous
judge.
He will rebuild this is a big one.
He he will rebuild the Beit HaMikdash,
Beit al Maqdis. So he's going to rebuild
the temple,
the 3rd temple. Right?
And then when he sort of subdues the
entire planet,
he will usher in an era of of
global peace.
There's difference of opinion about this one. Some
of the rabbi say that the messiah will
be able to raise the dead. Maimonides doesn't
believe that. He's sort of, I guess, you
could say it's more naturalistic,
messianic,
but people like Sadia Gaion, Rabbi Sadia Gaion
says messiah can actually raise the dead and
things like that. But nobody believes the messiah
is divine in any way. He's a human
being.
Another thing that the messiah will do according
to
traditional authorities is that he will bring forth
the Arbon Haberit, which is the ark of
the covenant,
which
most rabbi say it's buried under the it's
sort of interred under the temple mount somewhere.
I think all these legends about, you know,
some island,
on the Nile River,
These are maybe sort of just red herrings
or control distraction or something like that.
Almost everyone says it's under the temple mount
somewhere. Yeah.
The other thing that the messiah will do,
which is interesting, is that he will,
he will sacrifice a 3 year old perfect
red heifer. Mhmm. Right? The ashes of which
must be used to purify the the kohanim,
right, the temple priests.
And currently, I the last I checked
was in October.
There are currently 5 perfect red heifers, and
they have to be perfect. So no no,
you know, black or white hairs,
no no no, like, saddles or yokes or
anything have ever been used on them. So
5 of them have been flown into
so called Israel from a ranch in Texas.
Mhmm.
So I think they're almost 2 years old
now, sometime next year,
and all 5 are still perfect. So this
would be the 10th red heifer in their
history. They've had 9 in their 2000 year
history.
So the 10th one has to be this
is according to Leviticus. It's a must. The
ashes of 1 red heifer can last for
100 and 100 of years, but they have
to have these ashes in order to purify
not only the sort of
the the priest, but also the,
so if they find this 10th one, do
they then believe Messiah is right around the
Yeah. So Maimonides, he actually says that the
10th one will be slaughtered by the Messiah,
Moshiach. Oh, the Messiah himself. Okay. Yeah. Messiah
himself. I don't think there's a total agreement
on that,
but I imagine that most Jewish authorities would
say that the 10th one. Okay. And before
And it's either a major sign of the
coming of the Messiah or the Messiah himself
will slaughter the 10th one. Good.
Before I ask my next question, you mentioned
the exile would and that many Jews believe
that exile
is their destiny.
Well, interestingly, Surat Al Hasr says,
If Allah if it had not been that
Allah has destined for them exile,
then he would have punished them in this
world.
So is where do they get this concept
that exile is is destined for them?
Is it something biblical in the Torah as
a consequence? If you do this, then you'll
be exiled forever,
or is it just the words of their
leaders?
So
it it comes from the Torah.
Okay? So,
before the the sort of blasphemy of what's
known as religious Jewish Zionism, I mean, this
is for 100 and 100 of 100 of
years, almost 2000 years.
They believed based on explicit texts in the
Hebrew Bible
that their holy land from that their exile
from the holy land was was justified. It
was divinely decreed.
Explicit text from the bible. Explicit that it
was given on condition.
This is this is what they say. It
was given on a condition,
Obey God or else the land will reject
you. God will thrust you out. This is
stated dozens of times in the Tanakh. You'll
find this in Deuteronomy, Jeremiah, Isaiah, Ezekiel.
For for example, just pulling up a verse
here, Jeremiah 16,
13.
It says, therefore, I will cast you out
of this land and into a land that
you do not know. In Deuteronomy, you will
be root uprooted from the land that you're
entering to possess.
Ezekiel chapter 33,
the prophet Ezekiel, he says, then the word
of the Lord came to me saying, son
of man, the people living in these ruins
in the land of Israel are saying,
Abraham was only 1 man, yet he possessed
the land. But we are many, surely the
land has been given to us as our
possession.
Therefore, say to them so God is telling,
Ezekiel,
this is what the sovereign Lord says. Since
you eat meat with the blood still in
it and look to your idols and shed
blood,
shall you then possess the land? This is
a rhetorical question.
In other words, because you sinned against God,
God will cause you to dispossess the land.
Mhmm. And it continues, you rely on the
sword. You do detestable things,
and each of you defiles his neighbor's wife.
Should you then possess the land?
Mhmm. Right? So according to
Judaism, no one other than God, by means
of the Messiah,
can initiate
a return to the Holy Land. No one
other than God, by means of the Messiah,
could reestablish,
a Jewish nation, a Jewish kingdom, a Jewish
homeland,
and the Messiah has yet to come for
the Jews. They have to wait for the
Messiah. The Jews are under a 2000 year
divinely mandated diaspora. Mhmm. Again, this is what
all Jews believed prior to a 150 years
ago. This is traditional Judaism.
Any attempt
to reestablish
any land through military means in lieu of
the Messiah was viewed as rebellion
Wow. Against God. Even if there's some
uninhabited island,
the size of a football stadium Mhmm. In
the in the middle of the Pacific Ocean,
the Jews have no right to it whatsoever,
at least according to traditional orthodoxy. I mean,
the traditional orthodox today are called the heretic
Jews or the heretic.
You know, not these Zionist so called orthodox
heretics.
The
they they further cite
something known as the 3 oaths. This is
very important, the 3 oaths. Okay? It's called
the Shaloshavuot.
So this is found in the Talmud,
but it's based upon,
a book in the Tanakh called the Shir
Hashirim,
the song of Solomon.
So the 3 oath is very, very important.
The the the
traditional orthodox, they charge these,
these, so called orthodox,
Zionist Jews with breaking these oaths. The 3
oaths. The 3 oaths. Yeah. So the first
two oaths, they relate to the Jews and
the third one relates to the to the,
Gentiles.
So oath number 1 says, we will not
return on mass to the holy land.
That's the oath that's that's oath number 1.
We will not return on mass to the
holy land. In other words,
Jews cannot make any attempt to to end
the exile.
Okay? And, again, this includes
establishing
some temporary Jewish state or kingdom outside of
the holy land. The Jews must continue to
live in exile as long as God wants.
And and how do they know when enough
is enough? Well, God sends the messiah.
Wow. Right? There was a famous rabbi, rabbi
Dushinsky,
who was the chief rabbi,
of a group in Jerusalem called the Eida
Haredit, which means like the house of the
tremblers.
Right? So this was a ultra orthodox
organization
founded in Palestine. So in 1947,
Rabbi Dushinsky, he spoke to the United Nations
famously, and he said, quote, we express our
definite opposition
to a Jewish state in any part of
Palestine. Wow. End quote. Because he's under an
oath
from God. Oath number 2, we will not
rebel against any nation.
Alright? So so in other words, Jews must
be loyal citizens
of any host nation. I do. Even if
they are being oppressed.
So the traditional orthodox, they say that if
some
oppressive gentile king is oppressing you and humiliating
you because you're Jewish,
they say thank Hashem. Thank God at that
moment. Thank God that you are being oppressed
and you are not the oppressor.
Wow. And then oath number 3,
the nations will not oppress the Jews excessively.
In other words, it will never be too
much to handle. If you keep those 2
oaths.
Yes. It will never yeah. It it it
will never justify a premature sort of,
man led ending of the exile and returning
to the holy land. In other words, nothing
justifies ending the exile without the Moshiach.
Right? And so there was a famous there
was a famous rabbi.
So there there's different anti Zionist orthodox group
groups. 1 is called the,
1 is called the.
Right? So there's famous
rabbi named Joel Teitelbaum,
and so he's one of the founders of
these Hasidic dynasties. That's very anti,
Zionist.
He actually said this is on record. He
said that the Holocaust was divine punishment for
violating the 3 oaths. Wow. Who's what was
his name again?
Rabbi Yoel Teitelbaum. Teitelbaum. Teitelbaum. Teitelbaum.
Yes.
Yeah. He's, the founder of the the Satmar
Hasidic dynasty.
Passed away?
He's passed away.
So God's punishment upon European
the the holocaust was God's punishment upon European
Jewry for Zionism.
Wow. That's his opinion. Because violating the 3
oaths is is no joke,
you know, according according to the rabbi.
And here's here's something interesting too. The the
traditional orthodox
anti Zionist,
they cite a passage in the Torah to
demonstrate,
the importance of upholding the 3 oaths
in our time. So in the book of
Numbers. Right? So Genesis, Exodus, Leviticus, number the
4th book of the Torah.
Okay. It's called the book of Numbers.
So we're told and this is something that
they point out. We're told that some of
the Israelites under Moses,
they wanted to leave the wilderness
prematurely
Mhmm. Without God's permission
Right. And enter the holy land. Right?
So so God decreed,
40 years of wandering or exile. It's impossible.
But some of the people of Moses
wanted to end that exile immediately
and march into the Holy Land.
So they're actually quoted in numbers.
So they say the Hebrew says,
So the people are quoted, here we are,
and we will go up to the place
which the Lord has promised.
In other words, the people are saying some
of these people among, the people of Moses,
they said, we're not gonna wait any longer.
We're gonna go right now.
You know, this is taking too long. We're
going now.
And then listen to the response of Moses.
It says, Vayomer Moshe. Moses said,
He said, why are you disobeying the Lord's
command?
Subhanallah. This will never succeed.
Subhanallah.
Leaving exile early and entering the land and
establishing the land without God's permission, Moses says,
will never
succeed.
And then he says he
says, do not go up. Do not make
Aliyah.
Right?
Do not make Aliyah.
Because the Lord is not with you.
Right? And so anti Zionist rabbis to this
day
continue to tell Zionist Jews
that this blasphemous
project of theirs called modern Israel
will never succeed. SubhanAllah.
And that
Yeah. As just as the Quran says. Exactly.
Because the Lord is not with you. Mhmm.
In in in our terms, there's no tawfiq
from Allah Subhanahu Wa Ta'ala. And this is
why Rabbi Dushinsky's
predecessor,
Rabbi Joseph Chaim Sonnenfeld,
right?
He said, quote, very famous quote, doctor Herzl,
comes not from the Lord, but from the
side of pollution.
This is the theology of the famous,
Natura Kai group?
That's one of the that's one of the
groups. Yeah. So there's there's certain. So the
Satmar is one Hasidic group. The Ventura Karta
is another group. There are certain group unfortunately,
they're very much
becoming the minority now. But a a 150
years ago, every Jew on the planet
Insane. Took this position, up upheld the 3
oaths
that they that they are a diasporic people.
And any attempt Insane. Any attempt to to
resettle the land or to resettle any land,
even if it's uninhabited,
is total rebellion against God.
And these three oaths, can you remind me
with was there a certain prophet that took
this oath upon them?
So this is mentioned in Shirah Hashirim. So
the the song of Solomon, this is in
the it's one of the books of the
old testament. Yeah. So this is believed by,
the traditional Jews to be written by the
prophet Suleiman alayhis salaam.
And then the Talmud is believed
by traditional Jews also to have
a degree of revelation.
So the Talmud isn't simply just sort of
exegesis.
So in traditional Judaism, there's there's sort of
3
levels of revelation, 3 tiered
revelation.
So the highest revelation are the 5 books
of Moses. K. And so so Genesis, Exodus,
Leviticus, Numbers, Deuteronomy.
And so the rabbi say these 5 books
were revealed to Moses word for word,
is what they use, face to face without
any
any type of intermediation,
word for word, basically, like our concept of
the Quran,
of God, the very words of God.
And then,
you have the rest of the Hebrew Bible,
which, so so then you have the books
of the prophets.
So books like Isaiah,
Jeremiah, Ezekiel.
And so here is a lower tier revelation.
This is more like the inspired word of
God. Mhmm. Right? So while The words of
the prophet. The words of the prophet. Yeah.
So these this is like a type of
Ilham or iha, something like that word. Kinda
like a hadith qutsi type of thing? Hadith
qutsi. Yeah. Exactly. Yeah. So still still sacred
text. Okay. And and then you have a
3rd tier which is called the
or the hagiography. These are books like Psalms,
Proverbs, 1st and second Kings, 1st and second
Samuel,
Song of Solomon. So this book as well,
Song of Solomon. So still a sacred text,
right? Still,
a divinely revealed text in some sense, but
then you have the Talmud,
which is 2 parts, the Mishnah and Gemara.
So the Talmud is also considered a type
of revelation,
a non prophetic revelation.
Okay?
So, so in the Talmud, these 3 oaths
are fleshed out.
And so this is this is considered to
be,
completely authoritative,
among Jews.
So,
just to summarize that, so it's direct word
of God,
then inspired
meanings
written by a prophet,
Yep. Then directly written by a prophet.
Mhmm. And then inspired
meanings
of righteous people.
Righteous people. Exactly. Okay. So that's the four
levels.
Yeah. And and each is considered
that it's law.
Yes,
this is traditionally the law. For 1000, for
2000 years, this is Judaism.
And you said though that they
now that Israel has been founded, they found
their workarounds
to make it that, yes, you can prepare
a land for the Messiah.
Yeah. Exactly.
Now let's get to the Messiah.
Some while back, there was a young 15
year old who was deemed to be a
genius,
deemed to have memorized, you know, their sacred
texts,
and,
was
claimed to be a potential
possible messiah, so many so much so that
elders would be kissing his hands in the
streets of Israel. Have did you hear about
this?
Yeah.
Because that's my my lead in there is
that who are the latest claimants
to be Messiah?
Yeah. I heard of him. I don't remember
his name,
but, yeah, he's he's considered to be
the Yanuka, that's what they call him. The
Yanuka
is sort of a title that means like
the genius.
Mhmm.
I don't know if people are claiming him
to be the Messiah. Mhmm.
But it doesn't seem like that's likely.
There are no claimants right now. Correct?
Yeah. As far as I know, there are
no claimants. So there was, in 1994,
one of the founders of the of one
of the Hasidic Dynasties,
called Chabad,
passed away. His name was Rabbi
Menachem
Mendels Schneerson.
So he died as an old man. He
was like 92 years old or something like
that,
and there's there's
varied reports, different reports that he claimed to
be the Messiah. Many of his followers believed
he was the Messiah.
Mhmm. Even after his death, some of his
followers said that he's going to be resurrected,
any minute, and and he's going to regather
the Jews and so on and so forth.
But,
it is pretty well known
that this rabbi this rabbi who's called the
Rebbeid Menachem
Mendel Schneerson,
he told Netanyahu
in 1984
when Netanyahu was the UN ambassador,
to Israel.
He told Netanyahu this is quite well known
that Netanyahu
will be leading Israel when the Moshiach arrives.
Right?
So
yeah. And and there's even some
you might even be able to find this
on maybe even YouTube from,
the early nineties or something where he's he's
speaking to Netanyahu and he's saying,
you know, what have you done to prepare
the land for the Messiah?
You need to get moving here because there's
only a few hours left. That's the other
thing is that
that most Jews believe
traditionally
that the coming of the Messiah
must take place
before the year 6000
after creation.
Right?
He has to come and accomplish everything before
the year 6000.
Mhmm. And you find this,
basically everywhere,
before 7th day because a 1000 years Yeah.
Is is
a day is a day in the sight
of the Lord. So it's called the Sabbath
of the Lord. So the the year now,
by the way, is 5784
after creation.
Okay. So there's only about 200
some years left. Yeah. It's called the final
16 years left.
The the yeah. The final hours of the
6th day. That's how the rabbis put it.
And that's that's what Schneerson said to Netanyahu
in that
in that famous video where he said, there's
only a few hours left. What are you
doing to prepare the land? Right?
And and so,
how long is the action of the Messiah?
So, for example,
is his life on the earth in Judaism
a 40 year life, a 100 year life,
you know, because then you can
do the math backwards.
Yeah. As far as I know the,
at the year 6000 we're going to enter
into something called the Olam HaBa, so the
world to come. So the sort
of,
the nature of the world will change somehow
in the year 6000.
But as far as,
so there's 200, you know, something
217 years left
until we get to the 7th day and
that's the beginning of the Olam HaBa.
So
the Messiah can come at any at any
at any time. He has to come and
accomplish everything
Yeah. Before the year 6000,
but the absolute deadline is the year 6000.
So as far as how long he's going
to live, I I don't know. I don't
I don't know the answer to that. That's
But his his coming is deemed to be
absolutely imminent.
Let's get to some,
where where these ideas hit the road,
and hit reality.
Groups that believe
in the coming of the Messiah,
we know that in Islam,
pretty much all of believe in a concept
of the Mahdi.
Right?
Well, not pretty much. They must.
And then definitely
must believe also that prophet Ayesha, even Mariam,
will come back.
Yeah. So in Judaism right now,
is it a small group that are messianic,
or would you say that
it's only 15,000,000 Jews in the world? Right?
So we could probably much gauge
how much of the orthodox world
are messiah seekers, are
really believing in this and waiting for it?
And is there an anti messiah movement that's
saying, hey, guys. Stop all this. Just live
your life.
Yeah, so the majority of Jews are
very secular,
so at least in the West, Judaism is
divided among 3,
There's 3 divisions kind of tripartite, so you
have the basically modern orthodoxy,
which is about 10%
of Western Jews
and they all believe in the Messiah,
and they believe that the Messiah is an
actual person, is a personal Messiah from the
tribe of David, etcetera.
They're only about 10%, and then something like
35%
are considered,
conservative,
and they have
differing ideas of Messiah. Many of them believe,
yeah, he's going to be a person, but
some of them say, no, the Messiah is
a righteous polity of some sort, a righteous
government, even a righteous
sort of,
epoch of time, an era of,
of, flourishing
in the world, something like that. Yeah. And
then you have
something 38, 39%,
something like that, reformed Jews.
So here basically Judaism is,
you know, they're kind of Jewish by culture.
Yeah. You have many of them reject
that the the Bible is the word of
God. It's just sort of a historical record.
Many of them don't even many of them
canceled the file. They consider them as the
whole concept of the Messiah to be sort
of,
sort of a hassle because
it's a bit it seems a bit subversive
to say that here we are living in
these countries, but when our when our man
comes, you know, better watch out. Yeah. So
that many of them just completely abandoned the
whole idea of messianism.
And many of them are actually atheists. Many
reformed Jews are atheists. In fact, in our
masjid here not too too long ago, we
had an interfaith dialogue and there was a
Muslim brother,
and they were talking about something,
the ethics of Islam or something like that.
And then there was this female rabbi who
went up and said, I'm an atheist.
She comes from a reformed synagogue.
So strange. Sure. And people thought it was
a joke. They started they started laughing. Just
started just the beginning of a Jewish joke
or something?
It's I don't know what to say. Exactly.
A rabbi joke. This the stand up session
is about the set was about to start.
I thought she was completely serious.
And then you have a whole bunch of
Jews that are just you know, they're ethnically
Jewish, but they don't they're not religious
at all. But among the Orthodox, yeah, the
Messiah, I mean, Maimonides is very clear. Maimonides
is 13 principles of Jewish faith is is
is beloved to the Orthodox
the world over.
So this is something that he articulated,
in the 12th century.
It's mentioned in his Mishnah Torah, something he
wrote in actual in actually Hebrew. He usually
wrote in Judeo Arabic. So he has these
13 principles, and he says very clearly, if
you don't believe in any one of these
principles, you are a, he says, you are
a.
Have to believe in these.
So number 12 of 13 is the coming
of the Messiah. You have to believe in
the Messiah. Yeah. Or else he considers you,
an apostate.
And so those,
those,
descriptions of the Messiah that I gave are
primarily from the the commentary of Maimonides who
was accepted generally by by orthodox the world
over. So everyone, if they identify as orthodox,
they have this idea of a personal messiah
who's going to come
and his coming seems to be very imminent
in sort of Jewish,
worldview.
So we have the covered the beliefs on
the Messiah, who is the anti,
who is the antagonist of the Messiah? Do
they have an antichrist, a dead jail,
as we would have it?
Not as we would have it. So
there's this idea in the Torah of something
called the Amalek.
Right? Mhmm. So Amalek,
also known as the Amalekites, sometimes just called
Amalek. So according to the Torah, the first
group
to attack the Israelites,
to oppose the Israelites while they were in
the wilderness
was this group called the Amalekites.
Mhmm. And the Amalekites,
they for some reason, they just they hate
the Bani Israel, they hate the Israelites, they
want to kill them,
they want to exterminate them.
And so,
in in the bible, you have these
in the Hebrew bible, you have these commandments
coming from God apparently to the Israelites to
exterminate the Amalekites.
Okay? So for example, first Samuel chapter 15,
king Saul, the first king of Israel, was
told,
to,
to exterminate the Amalekites.
But Saul, he didn't do the job correctly
and he spared the Amalekite king whose name
was Agag
And so Agag sort of fled, I guess.
I mean, later on he was killed,
but
apparently the Amalekites,
survived somehow.
And so,
in the book of Exodus,
there's a passage,
where God is the speaker, and God says
that from generation to generation,
midor midor in Hebrew,
from generation to generation, I will make war
on Amalek.
Right?
So
in other words, many rabbis, many orthodox rabbis
take this to mean,
that in every generation,
there there is some group,
that
embodies the spirit of Amalek.
Yeah. And must be exterminated.
Mhmm. Right? So if there's that's probably the
closest thing you'll get to an idea of
an of an anti an anti Christ,
that there's this there's going to be this
group of people,
that are going to always oppose Israel,
and
and try to
basically,
destroy Israel,
until until the coming of the Messiah, and
then he will basically take them out.
So I understood this to be,
literal that
Amalek are people
that are wicked,
and we're supposed to fight that or the
Jew Jews are supposed to fight them physically.
Right? So
I'm talking to a young man. His name
is Rabbi Andrew Meyer.
Mhmm. And he always corrects me on this.
He said, no. No. No. No.
It's not that. It's it's metaphoric.
We don't kill.
The 10 commandments say you should not murder
or should not kill,
and
Amalek is evil in general.
Now I take this as, this is some
kind of modernism and metaphor. Right? Everything is
a metaphor,
and we know how we treat those types
of people in Islam. Right?
You really need to have conditions
set in place
regarding the language of the text
in order to deem something to be a
metaphor.
Right. Because god and his prophets speak directly,
and there are no tricks and games in
the speech. I would like to ask you,
is what this young man is saying, is
that
a mainstream view, or is it a minority
view, maybe a
sanitizing,
interpretation
for for westerners?
Yeah. I don't I don't think that's I
I think it's a bit sanitizing. So so
modern traditional Jews
tend to interpret these commandments against Amalek
on genealogical
grounds. So in other words, any and all
descendants of Amalek
must be killed
irrespective of their culture.
This is why when it comes to the
7 nations, we can say the Canaanites broadly
speaking,
there there is conversion, the 7 nations that
are in, you know, from the river to
the sea, they can actually
convert to,
to become a Ben Noah. So in other
words, the 7 they can adopt the 7
Noah Hittig laws or they can actually convert
to Judaism.
But there's difference of opinion about the conversion
of an Amalekite.
There's a difference of opinion as to whether
he should be allowed to convert
or not. If not, then he should be
killed. Yeah. However,
many would argue
that it's just simply impossible to identify
who who is an Amalekite.
So in other in other words, this this
commandment simply cannot be fulfilled.
Right?
It's just impossible to tell who's an Amalekite.
Maimonides,
he he limits
the application
of this mitzvah to destroy Amalek,
to a Jewish king. He says only an
anointed Jewish king
to carry out this mitzvah.
That's a mitzvah is there. It's it's not
it's not Mansukh, the Jews don't believe in
Mansukh, they don't believe in Nazch.
So this commandment is there, it's sort of
just suspended,
but we need an anointed Jewish king, and
it seems like he's talking about the Messiah.
And other authorities say that
it will apply once again when the Messiah
comes and he's taken control of,
of the covenant land,
the Eretz Israel.
So so then so, yeah, the commandment is
there.
Now,
there is this idea also that, like I
said,
you know, scripture has different levels of meaning.
So,
the commandment to destroy Amalek
is not abrogated,
it's still valid, but we don't know who
Amalek is,
but there's also this idea that
there's a there is a spiritual interpretation of
the text. So So even like the Orthodox
will say that, you know, one must
strive to remove or to kill or destroy
the Amalek within,
Right? These sort of impulses that we have
Mhmm. That want us to rebel against God
and this type of thing.
But that's not all it means, and no
traditional authority would say that's all it means.
It's it's just the the the internal Amalek
and it's all this kind of botany stuff
and Yeah. No. No. The the commandment is
literal,
but it's suspended,
right? Now, the Zionist, they actually teach that
no, Amalek
does not refer to any specific race,
but a mentality,
a mindset
that will continue perpetually.
So the Romans were Amalek and the Nazis
were Amalek. And Yeah. You know, e Iran
was Amalek. And now they're saying, obviously, you
know what Bibi said Yeah. To this guy.
Yeah. That the Palestinians, you know,
these They're Amalek. They're Amalek. We have a
duty. Remember what Amalek has done to you.
Remember our proud
of Joshua, the son of Nun, and what
he did, and we know what he did.
We he went into Canaan and slaughtered, you
know, at least according to the book of
Joshua,
slaughtered the indigenous,
people of of Palestine and women and children
indiscriminately.
Mhmm. So that's that's how these sort of
Zionist
interpret these verses about, Amalek.
Benzi Lieberman in 2004, he he's the director
the former director of Israel Land Authority. He
said, quote, the Palestinians are Amalek, we will
destroy them.
Let's now turn to
evangelicals.
Evangelicals
are,
have have have become the biggest Zionists.
Yeah. In reality, the there were evangelicals
in the time of the Balfour declaration,
and there are evangelicals,
of course, today that are pushing this in
congress and making sure that,
this is going through and that the aid
money is sent and all that and working
with the lobby and,
to make sure that Israel is established.
Their,
theology
is so diametrically opposed
to Jewish theology.
Yeah. Who swindled the evangelicals
into believing that this is good for them
when it clearly it is it's not?
Yeah.
Yeah. So this is this is a big
mystery.
Right?
But I yeah. I think we can sort
of trace it down to us to a
few candidates here.
But again just to reiterate that traditionally,
Christians believed that,
that Christians are now the chosen people, right?
The the Jews are no longer the chosen
people,
for Christians to support,
the building of a third temple,
is is absolutely
blasphemous because in the new testament, Jesus,
is clearly described as being the new temple,
Mhmm. The the final temple,
in in Romans 6 and in Hebrews 10,
you know, Paul says that Jesus was the
the be all, end all sacrifice. He's the
ultimate temple. He's the ultimate high priest, the
ultimate sacrifice.
And yet Christian Zionists, they fully support the
3rd temple where sin sacrifices will apparently return
one day according to Jewish messianism.
So Christian Zionism is is it's just indefensible
from a biblical perspective.
So what actually happened here? How did Zionism
become so popular among American Protestants?
Well, in 18/31,
there was this Anglican preacher,
named John Nelson Darby.
Okay? And so he was one of the
primary
organizers of a non denominational
Christian movement called the Plymouth Brethren,
the Plymouth Brethren.
So so, you know, this is what happens
when church tradition,
is ignored. So so Darby is considered to
be the father of something called modern dispensationalism.
Okay. So what is what is modern dispensationalism?
So this is basically,
it's this notion that there will be a
future restoration
of the earth Lee nation of Israel.
Okay?
But this also includes
this idea that the Mosaic covenant
and the Christic covenant
are 2 valid
coexisting
covenants.
They're both valid.
Mhmm. Okay?
This is also known as dual covenant theology.
In other words, Christians do not need to
convert Jews. Mhmm. The Jews already have a
valid covenant. Jews are still chosen by God,
irrespective
of their belief in Jesus.
Okay?
So if we just think about the theological
implications of this for Christianity,
I mean, this implies that Christ only came
for the Gentiles,
not the Jews. That's the implication that it
actually directly contradicts
the New Testament Jesus. You know, when he
said I was not sent but unto the
lost sheep of the house of Israel. Mhmm.
Right? So, you know, instead of, you know,
for God so loved the world,
he should have said for God so loved
the Gentiles. Mhmm. And he gave his only
begotten son because the Jews don't need him,
at least not yet. So so according to
Darby, let's get into his eschatology then.
Sacred history is divided into 7 dispensations.
What what are these 7 dispensations? So these
are sort of 7 periods of time
that demonstrate how God deals with humanity.
Mhmm. Okay, so he calls the first one
innocence. So this is like Adam and Eve
before the fall.
And then the second dispensation,
he calls conscience,
conscience. So there's Adam and Eve after the
fall, Cain and Abel,
Noah.
And then the third one, he calls civil
government.
So this is the aftermath of the flood.
And then the 4th one he calls promise.
This is the patriarchal period from Genesis 6
to, like, exodus 19.
Then the 5th one is called the law
of Moses.
Okay. So the covenant code,
the the cenitic,
covenant.
The 6th one he calls grace.
This is the covenant of Christ also known
as the church age,
and this goes until the rapture and I'll
talk about that. And then the final one,
the final dispensation is called the kingdom. So
5, 6, and 7 are the most important.
The law of Moses
and then the church age,
and then the kingdom.
And the kingdom, the 7th dispensation
is also called the millennium.
The millennium. Okay? So this is when Christ
will rule from Jerusalem
after his what's known as the or
the second coming. This is described in Revelation
chapter 20.
Now what is this last dispensation again? What
is this kingdom?
The kingdom
also known as a millennium, is the one
the literal 1000
year future reign of Christ from Jerusalem.
That Christ will rule
the reconstituted,
physical,
ethnic Jewish state of Israel.
So national Israel will be restored according to
Darby.
According to Darby, the Old Testament prophesizes
not so much the church age, but really
the kingdom, the millennium
where Christ rules the national Jewish state of
Israel.
So just to take you through the the
sequence of events here, and then we'll talk
about how Darby's
dispensationalism
became so popular.
So for first, we have the rapture,
right? The rapture, this is based on a
text 1st Thessalonians
chapter 4 where Christians are sort of taken
off the planet, they sort of
are raptured into the sky as it were.
So according to Darby, the church is removed
from the earth. The Christians are taken up,
you know. So if you're Christian, you don't
wanna be left behind. Right? Of course, there's
a famous book series called Left Behind based
on this based on this doctrine.
And then there's going to be a horrible
7 year period known as the tribulation.
Mhmm. Okay. So this is apparently described
in Matthew and Revelation. This is a time
of massive widespread evil upon the earth.
During the tribulation,
the antichrist
emerges,
who will sit in the temple,
the 3rd temple.
This is what Paul says. He will declare
himself God while sitting in the temple.
Now, this is unique in Darby such that
Christians will be gone before the tribulation.
Okay?
They will be raptured before the tribulation. So
this is called pre trib eschatology,
pre tribulation eschatology.
The rapture is pre trib.
So there's pre trib, then there's mid trib,
then there's post trib eschatology.
Okay? In other words, the rapture is either
before, in the middle of, or after the
tribulation.
So for so for Darby, Christians will will
experience none of the evils of the tribulation.
They're going to be raptured.
Then you have the second coming,
the parousia, the second coming of Jesus. Then
you have the kingdom also known as the
millennium.
This is going to manifest.
So the second coming
for Darbian dispensationalism
is pre millennial.
This in other words, the second coming is
prior
to the kingdom.
Mhmm. There was actually an opinion among Protestants
that the second coming was post millennial. That
the kingdom would manifest
by God's grace,
before the second coming of Jesus, which which
meant that basically the whole world was about
to repent and accept Christ, become Christian. And
then when he comes, they're going to welcome
him with open arms. So this was very
popular up until the 20th century. And then
World War I, World War II, and now
almost nobody takes that position.
For most Christians, okay,
the kingdom is already here. So here I'm
talking about like basically Catholic Christians.
Okay? So for Catholics, the kingdom is already
here. The kingdom of God and the church
age are essentially synonymous.
Right? So so Christ is ruling over it
right now.
Right? So Catholics, they take this language of
millennium to be symbolic. It's not a literal
1000 year earthly reign. It's a spiritual reality.
We we are living it right now.
Now the book of Revelation, it states, however,
that Satan will be bound during the millennium.
So how is Satan bound right now? Well,
Catholics explain that Satan is bound
in the sense that he cannot prevent people
from receiving the gospel.
Okay. So this this position is called amillennium
millennialism
amillennialism.
Again, this is essentially the Catholic position. So
there's no rapture
in the Protestant sense.
So then when Christ comes back, according to
Catholics,
he he won't rule for a 1000 years.
He'll come and judge humanity. He'll judge the
nations immediately.
And then the righteous will be taken body
and soul into heaven. We can call that
a rapture if you want.
And then the evil ones, including Satan and
his demons, will go to * or what
the book of Revelation calls a lake of
fire.
Mhmm. Okay. But let's go back to Darby.
So Darby advanced a pre trib,
pre mill
dispensational eschatology.
So let me just break that down again.
What does that mean? The rapture will occur
before the tribulation.
No no Christians will experience the tribulation.
And the second coming of Jesus will occur
before the millennium.
The the literal 1000 year kingdom reign. Before
that. Mhmm. Before that. Yeah. And then Darby
was also a dual covenant dispensationalist.
So what does that mean? Again, this means
that the Mosaic covenant
and the Christic covenant are 2 valid coexisting
covenants. They're both valid.
So when Jesus returns to rule over national
Israel,
all of Israel
will eventually believe in him. Mhmm. Right? And
there's going to be a reversal. He came
the first time, they almost all rejected him.
When he comes the second time, they will
all believe at him. K. Now now Darby
was famous
for saying that the Bible must be rightly
divided.
This is a very famous phrase from Darby.
He actually takes it from the letters of
Paul, but Paul uses it in a different
way.
The Bible must be rightly divided. What he
meant was that much of the New Testament
does not actually apply to Christians,
but only to Jews.
That that Jesus primarily in the synoptic gospel,
so Matthew, Mark, and Luke,
He's actually teaching the Mosaic covenant.
Okay? But in John's gospel,
as well as
through Paul's writings, Jesus was advancing the Christian
covenant. So there's almost like 2 gospels.
So according according to Darby,
Jesus was teaching both dispensations.
Okay? Both both covenants are valid side by
side. Now Darby's dispensationalism,
eventually found its way across the pond,
to America. So pastor James Hall Brooks,
he kind of just fell in love with
the Darby,
with his teachings, right? Don't get the wrong
idea.
And then Brooks,
he he was in Saint Louis
and there was an annual Bible conference called
the Niagara Bible Conference.
And Brooks was often the keynote speaker.
So it was at this conference when Darbian,
Dispensationalism,
became more and more popular via James Brooks.
And Brooks had a preacher friend named Dwight
Moody.
And Moody would later establish the famous Moody
Bible Institute
in Chicago, where Bible is their middle name
as Bart Ehrman always says. Mhmm. And then
Moody
also became
a Darbian dispensationalist.
And then Moody befriended a man named Cyrus
Ingersoll Schofield.
Okay?
Now Schofield
was a morally questionable
lawyer and politician.
He was accused of multiple charges of theft,
bribery, forgery.
He was a deadbeat husband and father.
A self described alcoholic,
turned Christian minister.
So he became an ordained pastor
in Dallas in 18/83.
Mhmm. It's Scofield.
In 18/88,
he wrote a treatise called rightly dividing the
word of truth, rightly dividing the word of
truth. So he started calling himself,
CI Scofield DD,
that is doctor of divinity, although there's no
record of him ever graduating
from seminary. So it seemed like he gave
himself kind of an honorary doctorate,
kind of like what Dartmouth College did for
doctor Seuss.
Right? Honorary doctor, doctor Seuss wasn't a real
doctor. CI Scofield was not a real doctor.
In 190,
Schofield wrote his Schofield study Bible.
This was published by
Oxford. So this Bible, the Scofield study Bible
had a massive,
massive
impact on American Protestants
and evangelicals.
It is no exaggeration
that this Bible turned millions
of American protestants
into Christian Zionists.
I mean, it changed the generation of preachers.
His his Bible translation is essentially the King
James translation,
but he added all of these strange notes
in his
commentary. So in his commentary of Genesis 123.
Okay? So this is the most infamous one.
Mhmm. Okay. So this is God's promise to
Abraham.
Okay? So Scofield's commentary changed the game. So
basically, God says to Abraham, I will bless
those who bless you and curse those who
curse you.
So here's what Scofield wrote.
Right? He said, and curse those who curse
you,
wonderfully fulfilled in the history of the dispersion.
It has invariably fared ill with the people
who have persecuted
the Jew
well with those who have protected him, the
future will still more remarkably prove this principle.
Right? So so
so, basically, Scofield is applying
this verse
to ethnic Jews,
contemporary ethnic Jews, that this that the Jews
are still chosen, that anyone who curses Jews
have
will be cursed by God. And so after
Scofield, it became ubiquitous among Protestants
that Christians owe
unconditional,
unquestionable
loyalty
to the Jewish people because they never ceased
to be chosen.
Okay? This is Scofield's commentary. And so this
doggish
Christian loyalty, this this pathetic,
almost slavish
Mhmm. Christian loyalty to ethnic Jews
extends to the modern, murderous state of Israel.
Because eventually, Jesus will rule Israel. That's Jesus's
future kingdom.
Right?
But as we said, in light of the
New Testament, and this is a grave misleading
misreading of Genesis chapter 12 because Paul actually
quotes he actually Paul has a commentary on
Genesis chapter 12.
And Paul says that when it says Abraham
and his seed, his seed is only Jesus,
not the Israelites.
This is what Paul says in Galatians chapter
3. He says, if if you belong to
to Christ, then you are the seed of
Abraham. This is a conditional statement in Galatians
3. In other words, you have to believe
in Jesus or else you're no longer chosen,
right?
So according to the New Testament,
the church is the new Israel. The church
is a new Zion,
right?
Which does and can include some ethnic Jews
as well. But but belief in Jesus without
is without question. You have to believe in
Jesus. According to the New Testament. Okay? The
Last Supper,
at the Last Supper, this is this is
when the pronouncement
and initiation of the new covenant
covenant occurred. This was at Mount Zion
on Holy Thursday. And then the descent of
the Holy Spirit on the day of Pentecost
occurred in the same upper room 50 days
later on Mount Zion.
So both the establishment of the new covenant
as well as the proclamation of the new
covenant happened on Mount Zion in Jerusalem.
So you see what the authors of the
New Testament are saying. The Christian church is
the new Zion. Mhmm. When Thomas Aquinas wrote
his hymns praising Zion, there's a bunch of
hymns that Aquinas wrote where he's praising Zion.
He's praising the Christian church, not not some
future secular
Jewish ethno state. Yeah. So how how did
Scofield actually do it?
So so in 2005,
Joseph Canfield,
he wrote a biography about Schofield.
It's called the the incredible Schofield
and his Bible.
So according to Canfield,
in 1901,
Schofield joined
an exclusive
males only secret society
called the Lotus Club.
And Canfield suggests that someone highly influential within
the club, he thinks it was another lawyer
named Samuel Untermyer,
basically promoted and financed
Scofield's Bible project. In other words, Scofield had
powerful American Zionists
bankrolling his project. Mhmm. Scofield was the textbook
definition of what's known as a useful idiot.
Mhmm. Right? Someone who's used by powerful people
to do their bidding without really understanding the
consequences of his of his actions. So in
1948, when, you know, Israel became a state,
Darbian dispensationalism
through Schofield
exploded even more in popularity
among Western Protestants. So Israel has been restored.
You see? Just as Darby said. So this
further vindicated dispensationalism.
And so the Christian Zionist,
they were saying, you know, we better be
nice to Israel or else God will curse
us
according to Genesis, you know, 12:3. We better
we better be nice to Israel because it
is Jesus' future kingdom.
Mhmm. Now one of Scofield's students, was named
Louis Schaeffer.
He died in 1952.
And Schaeffer founded the Dallas Theological Seminary in
1924.
So he was actually the president of of
Dallas Theological Seminary until 1952.
A famous alumnus
of DTS,
is a man named Hal Lindsey,
and he's still alive.
In 1973,
Lindsey wrote this book that took the world
by storm.
It it had the power of 30 Harry
Potters.
Wow. It was called the late great planet
Earth.
Mhmm. Okay? Millions upon millions of copies were
sold.
I mean, it seemed like everyone in America
was reading this book about end times prophecies
in the Bible
through a lens of Darbian dispensationalism.
It was even made into a film that
was narrated by Orson Welles. So Hal Lindsey,
by the way, he said in 1979 that
that Jesus would return in 1988.
Because there's a verse in Matthew 24
where Jesus at least the Methian Jesus says,
this generation shall not pass away until all
these things are fulfilled. The present generation
will live to see it all. So apparently,
Jesus was speaking about this restored kingdom.
So one generation is 40 years. Right? In
1948,
the restoration of National Israel also known as
the Nakba,
plus 40
1988. Right? So that never happened.
In 1984,
Oxford put out the new Scofield
study bible. Okay? And they added this clarifying
comment. For a nation to commit the sin
of antisemitism
brings inevitable judgment.
For a nation to commit the sin of
antisemitism
brings inevitable judgments. Ajit, you know the new
you know the New Testament Jesus?
He said that the that the the only
unforgivable sin was blasphemy
against the Holy Spirit.
Yeah. Now in today's, you know, Zeitgeist,
we're constantly told that any critique of Zionism,
is anti Semitic. Oh, geez.
So so anti anti Zionism
is a form of antisemitism.
This is what we're told. Yeah. So then
so then Christians who read that note from
Scofield,
must only conclude that anti Zionism is the
unforgivable sin in the sight of God. For
a nation to commit the sin of anti
Semitism, a form of which is anti
Zionism, brings inevitable
judgment.
Right? And there's a bunch of things that
he says, for example, Scofield,
in his commentary of Hosea chapter 1 verse
10, this is what he said. He said,
the expression my people, am me in Hebrew,
is used in the Old Testament
exclusively of Israel Mhmm. Nation.
He's just wrong here. He's demonstrably wrong.
Isaiah 1925, it says Baruch ami Mitzrayim.
Blessed be Egypt,
my people.
He's just wrong. In his commentary of Genesis,
Scofield wrote, quote, the Palestinian covenant gives the
conditions under which Israel, he's talking about physical
Israel,
entered the promised land. It is important to
see that the nation has never as yet
taken the land under the unconditional Abrahamic covenant,
nor has it ever possessed the whole land.
This is just wrong. If you read Joshua
2143,
this is what it says. So the Lord
gave Israel
all the land, Kol Eretz, it says in
the Hebrew, all the land
He had sworn to their ancestors and they
took possession of it and settled there. So
Scofield
wants us to think that this is still
an outstanding promise
that God has not yet fulfilled his side
of the deal. Mhmm. Right? It's really amazing.
And then he says, 2 dispositions and restorations
have been accomplished. Israel is now in the
3rd dispersion
from which she will be restored at the
return of the Lord as king. So I
think Christians, they need to ask themselves.
They need to ask themselves a very important
question. Who are you going to believe? Who
do you follow? Schofield or scripture?
Yeah.
Darby,
writes this. It seems it has one beneficiary,
which is the Zionist Jews. So who's behind
Darby? There there's no he's not been Christians
are not benefiting anything from this. There must
be something behind Darby. What motivated him to
do this? I don't know. Maybe Shaitan probably.
I mean That's a good question.
You know, it's a the like the, as
one of my teachers said, you know, the
the it's not of every bad idea. Yeah.
You take take it back far enough.
It'll go to at least, but are is
there are there Zionist thinkers at the time?
Zionism Christian Zionism actually predates Jewish Zionism. So
Christian Zionism actually goes back to, like, the
16th century or something.
But what is the exact motivation of Darby?
I don't I don't know.
Because,
when was he writing in in relative to
Herzl?
So he's yeah. So he's 18th. He's before
Herzl.
He's before Herzl. He's like 18/31 is when
the is when the, the the brethren, the
Plymouth Brethren were founded.
So this idea that,
Zionism came around and the
beginnings of what we now call the Israel
lobby is developing
Correct. Then influences,
the evangelicals,
evangelical world, that's actually not correct
because Darby predates.
Yeah.
Maybe,
you know? Yeah. In Scofield, he wrote his
his famous, treatise in 18/88,
you know, in the first Zionist conference
was in 18/97.
Yeah. This is well before that. Well before
that, and even 18/97
for the next few years, it's laughed at.
Right?
And
so it's very strange what would make them
so was it was it, an issue that
they don't like the idea of people going
to *
and they live Christians and Jews.
So let's find a way, like, almost like
a perennialist, relativist type of thing where nobody
really goes to * and everything's good. Yeah.
I mean, I've I've thought about that. It's
there's a lot of similarities with with, with
the Darby and dispensationalism and kind of the
perennial philosophy.
Mhmm. Right? That these covenants remain open and,
you know, things like that. Maybe that was
a motivation. Maybe it it sort of was
intended to be,
something that the feel good type of thing.
Exactly. And then they just it just you
know, that's the thing. It just blew up
and then and people don't think about the
the consequences of of of what they say
or what they do.
I could see that,
a a Zionist loving this idea. Let's fund
this book, and let's make sure it spreads
far and wide. Right. But, sort of laughing
at it simultaneously because their end times, like,
results, when they finally get to the meeting
point,
they got totally opposite beliefs. Right? Yeah. I
mean, the book of Revelation says
that. Revelation chapter 2 that only a 144,000
Israelites will go to heaven anyway. Yeah. So
12,000
from the from from each tribe. Sure. Sure,
Ajay. Ajay.
So,
we we talked about these things. Now
the Christians though do have
an antichrist.
The Christians, yes.
And the Christian what are what are the
signs of the Christian antichrist?
I've come upon many evangelicals that say the
Islamic Messiah,
even they now know about the Mahdi, will
be is the Christian
antichrist.
So in this sense,
Islamic and Christian end times,
they sort of do meet up
in opposites in a sense. From the Christian
world view,
it does meet up.
Yeah. So the antichrist,
so the term antichrist is used a couple
of times in the New Testament, so Paul
uses it, sorry, the the the author of
the first epistle of John, he's called the
elder,
He uses it in chapter 2 verse 22,
and he says something very interesting. He says,
whoever does not believe Jesus is the Christ
is an antichrist.
Mhmm. Right? Which is very interesting because,
you know, like Yeah. A lot of 1,000,000
antichrist.
Yeah. Exactly. And I mean, Muslims and Christians
believe that
Jesus is the Christ at least in some
sense, but the Jews don't believe. So it
seems like this language is is sort of,
you know, anti Jewish polemic here,
But Paul also mentions the antichrist in first
Thessalonians.
Right?
And that he he he says something just
very brief. He says that the antichrist will
sit in the temple. Mhmm. Okay? And declare
himself to be God.
So
Christian scholars have somehow worked out that halfway
through the tribulation,
three and a half years into the tribulation,
the Antichrist who made some sort
of peace treaty or something with with Israel
will actually
disobey Israel and then seize the temple
and
then start oppressing the people of God.
But as far as
details,
that that's all it really says, and then
there's a lot of speculation from early church
fathers and things like that.
But but you're right, and I just wanted
to mention as well, a very a very
common, deception actually that's used by Christian apologists
is to say that the Muslim Messiah
is the Mehdi. Yeah. Right? So they use
that term Messiah,
That's what they call him, the Muslim messiah.
So, obviously, the Mehdi,
I mean, it's totally wrong. The Mehdi is
is the guided one from the of
the prophet Muhammad, salallahu alaihi.
So he'll be a leader of Muslims, but
he's he's not the messiah. So I always
correct Christians, and I think they're doing this.
I don't know. It seems like they should
know better. I wanna have a good opinion
of people, but, you know, people are there's
Shay'atim from the from the ins.
The Quran tells us explicitly many, many times
that the Messiah is.
Yeah. Right? So that's that's something that I
think,
we should stress in in interfaith dialogue is
that we have something in common and that
obviously, the our concept of messianism is a
bit different.
But the Messiah, according to the Quran, which
is our primary source,
is
the Messiah is Jesus, the son of Mary,
Jesus of Nazareth, the same Jesus
who lived 2000 years ago,
in in Galilee.
So
that's that's an important,
I think this distinction to make between the
Mehdi
and the Messiah.
Mhmm. And because I think people are just
being misled by these by these preachers that
have these sort of anti Muslim
polemical bends to them or something.
It's funny that I, was watching one evangelical
and, you know, they they they raise themselves
up to be ministers very quick. As soon
as they repent,
they become ministers,
And there's no training in between,
and they were completely confused by the concept.
So they like the idea that the Muslim
Mahdi,
as they call it, is the antichrist.
Then they have a big problem with the
idea that we then believe that Jesus is
gonna come back. And they don't know how
to put 2 and 2 together with that.
But,
so I think we covered everything that we
wanted to cover. This the the I think
for a lot of people, the Darby,
predating
Hertzel.
It's something new to a lot of people
because, you know, the usual talk is that
the the the
the Jews cooked up this stuff.
Mhmm. Let's not get into the,
you know, Protestant,
Bible,
which is clearly not the case.
This was a Christian thing. Yeah. Like you
said, Edmund Allenby,
David Lloyd George, these are
you know, maybe it's just, you know, Zionism
is something that
it was in their strategic interest
because they had these colonies in the in
the in the Muslim majority world and Yeah.
You know, he's trying to make some allies
amongst the Jews and who knows? It's it's
it's it's a it's a deep rabbit hole.
Are is are the Rothschilds involved in the
Scofield Bible at all? Is this conspiracy theory?
Are they truly involved in funding it? I
haven't heard anything like that.
I haven't heard. No. I don't know.
Last question. Did you read the book, Forcing
God's Hands? That was written way back.
I've I've heard of it. I haven't read
it though. It's essentially the
the it's it's,
Christian Zionism, essentially.
Mhmm. And the policies that it produces,
essentially for the sake of bringing back Christ.
Yeah. I mean, we we have these Christian
Zionist leaders and preachers on television
with millions of followers
stoking hatred for Muslims,
offering these like half witted,
ridiculous,
futuristic interpretations of biblical verses Yeah. Where they're
like, you know, this is, you know,
Babylon the Great and the mother of harlots,
Saddam Hussein and Iraq, all for the glory
of I mean, it's war hawking. Yeah. War
hawking for Israel by means of bad theology.
Yeah. Christian Zionism is a murderous ideology.
There's there is a book I recommend by
doctor Steven Sizer. He's a Christian. He's non
Zionist. It's called Christian Zionism, a road map
to Armageddon.
And this is exactly what it is. This
is a roadmap to Armageddon.
Yeah. It's it's pretty it's pretty crazy.
So yeah. I mean, I but you're exactly
right. I mean, Christian Zionism predates,
any type of Jewish Zionism, at least before
became very popular within within Judaism.
Shai Adjeep,
well, I, thank you for your time. We
kept you a little over an hour, but
thank you so much.
Thanks for having me. And,
hopefully, we'll see where where all this goes
and and and perhaps have you back for,
the continuation as we see where the things
on the ground,
go with this whole situation in Gaza. But,
again,
and thank you again.
Doctor Alayatai is in California.
He's a professor at Zetuna College. He teaches
comparative religion there, and he teaches,
he's been teaching there for quite a while.
And he's one of the, really, the OGs
of the, of
the in
in the Dua
at the time. So thank you so much
for for coming on.
Thank you so much. My long peace.
Thank you.
Bye bye.
Alright, brothers and sisters. There you have it.
Really, really useful and important information for all
of us to have
on the situation in the world today. We're
not dealing with merely a situation of people
with, dealing with financial issues, political, you know,
geopolitics and economics. We do have people who
have
people with,
really end time beliefs,
and that's what's going on, and that's what
they're doing. When when Netanyahu evokes the Amalek,
you know what that means now.
When the Christian Zionists when you drive on
Texas,
from Houston all the way to Dallas, it's
all megachurches
with massive Zionist flags bigger than the American
flag.
You now know the source. K? They have
an original source. It's it wasn't simply,
you know,
Jewish scheming
against the protestants
that, you know, made them go this direction.
They have their own reasons to believe this
and their own people.
Now who is behind Darby? Maybe we'll we'll
never know.
But then again, there you have a religion,
where one guy cooks up an idea,
and it is now the religion of 1,000,000.
This would never happen in Islam.
Like, one guy cooking up an idea that's
completely antithetical to the book and the sunnah.
You're not gonna get away with this for
too long. And if you do, it'll be
a minority.
But this is now the majority of protestantism,
and protestants
are all about bringing back Zion, bringing back
the land,
of Israel for Christ.
Yet we found that in Orthodox Judaism,
if you didn't watch, if you didn't see
this, Orthodox Judaism, this is completely sinful.
Upon every righteous Jew is 3 oaths, says
doctor Adi brought forth.
1 and they essentially entail
we've we accept
our exile.
We will be good citizens wherever we live,
and we will do nothing.
We will not take a single action
to bring back,
the the the the holy land.
Okay? We will do nothing.
So very interesting, very informative stuff, and I'm
happy we he brought something that wasn't that
really is a continuation. You should watch the
blog in theology,
radical Judaism episode, and then watch this.
It's a continuation of it, and you'll learn
a lot that you didn't see there.
Okay. So alright. Let's let's open up for
some q and a. We got maybe a
few minutes
to do some
question and answer.
Omar, was there someone at the door or
something?
Zeeshan got his food.
I'm just getting this well well, what kind
of food is it is the question. Peri
Peri chicken. Peri Peri chicken today. Woah.
Well, probably less calories than pizza.
Yeah.
We gotta look into anti Zionist or non
Zionist evangelicals
and non Zionist Jews. We need to get
them on, and I would like to have
a debate, to be honest with you, with
Orthodox Jew and Rabbi Andrew Meyer.
Because, you know, like,
it's it's very difficult
it's very difficult in in any text, any
actual interpretation
to just render things a metaphor.
It causes more problems for you
than it solves.
K. Now this young rabbi, Andrew Meyer, he
seems like a nice guy. Right? But
he does have this interpretation that that a
lot of this stuff is metaphoric.
We know those this group in Islam.
Right? We just dealt with them, right, last
spring. Omar, you went with us. Right? Oh,
you missed it.
When we went to LA and everything is
a metaphor and blah blah blah, that causes
more problems than good. You're gonna find more
inconsistencies
with that when you go the route of
everything is just a metaphor.
K? So
I'm of the belief and the opinion that
the Amalek and
the verse on Deuteronomy are actual commandments.
K? They're actual commandments. Now Maimonides, he got
around it. He said, yes. They're commandments, but
they can only be established by,
a a a king. Well, we have
a king right now. Israel has a king.
Right? Israel has a leader.
Okay. Could it be that the messiah they're
waiting for is the dajjad?
Our
concept of the dajjal, you find in our
books, is the messiah of the.
That's where they line up.
The anti the for
of Islam
and the Messiah of is 1 and the
same.
There, they will follow the and
only few of them, individuals,
individuals
will accept Islam.
Christianity is the opposite.
There will be very few of the people
of the book, here meaning Christians,
except that they will believe in him, Jesus,
before his death. This is another sign that
Jesus hasn't died yet
because we don't see,
people of the book believe in him. Like,
why would they don't need to re believe
in him. Right? They only have,
a false belief about him, so we don't
see the majority of people of the book
believing in him properly.
Meaning they will believe in him correctly. They
they believe in him incorrectly.
Allah would not call a false belief, amen.
Right? So
our concept at the end of time is
that there will be an antichrist.
He comes after Imam and Mahdi. Imam Mahdi
is a regular man,
but of course he's guided
and he's special. But in regular man, I
mean, he's not a prophet
And he unifies the Muslims.
He doesn't unify them
just with words. There are wars, civil wars
within Islam.
His first war is in Hejaz.
His second Hejaz being the Arabian Peninsula. So
he unifies it under his leadership.
He's resisted. He's fought by the people of
Hejaz.
The second battle he wages is Syria,
then Iraq,
Persia after that.
He's going up all of this.
Who is his one supporter that he doesn't
have to fight and they join him?
Afghanistan.
K?
Is an area of land. The bulk of
it is in Afghanistan, a part of it
is in Persia. So we could say, in
our world that we know today, that area
of Afghanistan,
he they won't he won't have to
talk to them. They will come to him.
He won't have to fight them. They will
come to him,
yeah, and support him. Then he goes up
to Constantinople.
Constantinople,
of course, being Istanbul.
And when they
hear the
when they hear him,
the of that army,
they will submit. So there will not be
a fight. They're they will be ready to
fight each other, but there won't be a
fight.
They will submit to him. So imagine the
magnitude of this.
Now
the Egyptians say we are.
The Egyptians say
that what whatever Shem is mentioned,
in the end of time, Egypt is to
that. Follow us to that because there's a
connection between Shem and Egypt which is Sinai
Peninsula.
So the Egyptians because Egyptians have to
oh, we cannot be involved. We have to
be part of this. Right?
Okay. So and a lot of those best,
but that is a massive, massive, massive entity.
So massive, what do they decide to do?
They go to room
to start going into Europe,
the lands of a room.
And in specific, Rome in specific and the
Vatican in specific.
Why? Because they say these shoveling gold
with their shields shoveling gold which is interesting
because they say they have shields.
Could be shields of doesn't necessarily mean shields
against arrows
and swords. It could be shields of other
sorts.
Who knows what the world is gonna bring
us? But this is the the the the
typical end time narrative that you're gonna hear
from the sound sources of Islam.
While the Muslim that army of the Mahdi
is in room in a room, they're
gonna be called back. Why? Because they hear
that the has come.
Now notice
when they leave,
right, when they hear about the, they go
back east.
The is coming from the east. Is not
coming from the west. We may view the
west as a source of prophecy and on
all these problems, but that Jad comes from
the east. The greater danger's in the east.
So they go back to their homeland,
to to their wives and children
who they have left to go to war,
and they seek to protect them
So much so is Dajjal
attractive to people
that is that a Muslim will have to
lock his door from his mother, his mother
in his wife, his mother, and his mother-in-law,
and his daughters
being tempted to go and look at the
djet
because they hear so many wonderful things about
him. It's like the whole world
loves him so much,
and he's
tugging at the heartstrings
of the of of people that a a
man a a man will have to lock
his door
and and stand by the door and make
sure the women of the house don't go
because they're so tempted just to look.
That Jad is so attractive
and tempting
that one glance at him, one
examination of him
will trick you,
but except those whom Allah guides. So the
soldiers and the army of the Mahdi and
the people of the the Muslims at that
time will stop expanding and stop fighting. They
will just be busy guarding their own family
from
the.
The then
will gather a great army
and will the, the, the army of the
Mahdi that is out fighting.
All right. We'll be jammed in Jerusalem
and they will be neutralized.
Every person,
every prophet, even prophets,
they have what Allah has permitted them to
defeat
and what Allah has not permitted them to
defeat.
Okay?
The the great imam al Mahdi,
he has given the the the permission, the
divine,
the permission from Allah
to unify the Ummah, but he's not given
permission to defeat the dajjed.
So the Muslims will be hunkered down almost
besieged
by the army of the djed, which is
now taking over the world.
So this great rise of Muslim unity of
Muslim lands
will now give way that almost as if
you could say the next chapter is the
rise of the antichrist and the dead jet.
Got it. And he puts the end to
this rise,
and he
brings his own form of *.
And he travels listen to this hadith. If
you don't believe in the prophet after this
hadith, you're just being stubborn. The prophet, peace
be upon him, said, the antichrist, the dead
jed, will travel the world
on a beast
with eyes all along its side
that can jump through the clouds.
So what beast is there in the world
that jumps
through the clouds
and has eyes all along its side
other than an airplane?
Right?
I mean, how crystal clear does it? Prophet
said
the the width of this beast is the
width of 40 mules.
Like, what is the difference the the the
length between
the ears of a mule? Like, what? This
much? Right?
The width of 40.
And down its side, our eyes.
And it leaps in the cloud. If you
don't believe in the prophet Muhammad
after this, you must simply be
you just being stubborn.
K?
Even in the year 1800, nobody could have
predicted planes coming around, let alone the year
600
of the common era when the prophet lifts.
6,
570 to 632
is in the common era when the prophet
sallallahu alaihi wasallam lift. Okay?
So the messenger sallallahu alaihi wasallam tells us
that now the Dejaz kingdom
and evil kingdom will rise.
K? And the Muslims will be neutralized
until when? This will not last forever.
K? It will only be a a short
period of time. In that it will be
a short period of time, 1 or 2
years. How do they say 1 or 2
years? Because the prophet, peace be upon him,
said he will expand his kingdom in 40
days.
One day like a year, one day like
a month, one day like a week, and
the rest of the day is like the
rest of the days.
So they said that it's like a year,
a year and 2 or 3 months. Right?
So he will expand
almost the way COVID took over the world
in, like, a year and a half or
something. So within a a short period of
time,
he will dominate the world
and lure everyone with darkness in his heart
to him.
And the prophet talked about the. He said
he is one eyed, meaning he's blind in
one eye. Doesn't mean he's a cyclops.
Good. Do you know that I taught this
to kids for a long time,
like high schoolers, and they said he's a
cyclops. I said, not a cyclops. Blind he's
one eyed means blind in one eye. He
has 2 eye sockets. Right? But one of
them is blind.
One eye does not mean a cyclops.
K?
This was a high school. Islamic school. Right?
I said, come on, Sheikh. A cyclops?
What cycle? What are you talking about? You
said one eyed. No. Not one eyed like
that. Meaning, one eye sees and one eye
is blind. K?
And this is becoming fashionable, by the way,
these days, the idea of the one eye,
because it's been documented that
every successful
musician out there,
right, has done this cover up one eye
look.
Illuminati. Yeah. Illuminati symbols on,
on their,
you know, taking a picture on a record
or something like that.
In any event But the dollar has it.
Yeah. The dollar has it too.
You know, they're all security forces and stuff.
They say the all seeing eye, meaning we're
we're securing the land. And even Saudi, I
went to some guy and I said, yeah.
Right? Why it it would it be
that you, Saudi, Muslim,
have an eye as a symbol for the
Saudi security?
Right? He's like, oh, this is all seeing
eye because we're securing. We need to secure.
So I said, well, why don't you be
more secure if you had 2 eyes? Right?
What would you rather, security guard with 1
eye or 2 eyes? Right? So but I
said, yeah. This is.
The gel is one eyed. Like, why would
you put that? He's like,
he never thought about that. He was, like,
surprised.
But in any event,
the,
he reigns, he rules
until this descent of Isa ibn Mariam.
Now all of this happens in 1 generation.
The the Mahdi,
his entire time when he unifies the Ummah
in these wars,
it's only a few years.
Okay? The Dajjal rise,
1 to 2 years.
Then prophet Eisib Miriam comes back.
The entirety of the reign of the Mahdi
is 7 years, which include a time by
himself,
a time against the Dajjal, and a time
with prophet Jesus
and the Dajjal and
himself
and a period of time with only himself
and prophet Jesus, meaning prophet Jesus kills the
Dajjal.
The prophet Eisib Al Mariam comes back, and
he goes straight to the Tel Aviv airport.
Here he descends in Syria.
K? And then he comes straight to Masjid
Aqsa. He prays with the Muslims
but
refuses to be the imam.
Imam Mahdi said the prophet says the was
called for you. You're the leader. So prophet
as
an honor to the messenger Muhammad
lives his first few years,
which matched the Mehdi's last few years
as a follower of the Mehdi.
So the Mahdi,
the lineage of the prophet, peace be upon
him, as an honor to the messenger
and an honor to Al Hassan.
Al Mahdi is a descendant of the of
the prophet's grandson, Al Hassan.
Al Hassan gave up the Khalifa to bring
the Muslims together,
So Sayed Naiisa refuses to take it away
from him. K? As an honor, not only
to the prophet, but to Al Hassan, ibn
Ali. Al Hasan ibn Ali abdicated the the
caliphate to keep the Muslims together.
Prophet Isa ibn Maryam refuses to take
the rule of the Ummah
from
the descendant of Al Hassan.
K? So he keeps him, and he lives
for a few years
under
or or not. She's gonna say a prophet
is under, but as a follower of Al
Hassan.
Then prophet Isa immediately marched to what is
now the airport of Tel Aviv is.
In the hadith of the prophet. If you
look at it now, it's at Tel Aviv
Airport.
And there, he kills the antichrist. He faces
the antichrist directly and kills him. K?
Kills him.
Thereafter
and and I and I have I've left
off a lot of things, such as Al
Malhamal Kubra, the great slaughter,
in which the dead Jaz forces will do
a massive slaughter on Muslims.
Massive slaughter. Like, you know, I don't know
nuking North Africa.
Who knows what that means? Okay?
They will kill so many people.
Okay. It is said that if someone were
to,
fire an arrow in the sky,
okay, that it would come down red.
Why? Because the things of the the the
birds of the sky would be dying.
K? And Allah knows best. K? But point
being is that it will be there will
be a great war which we call Armageddon.
Prophet Isaac comes as in the middle of
that battle, and he changes the tides. K?
And he kills the antichrist,
and that war is finished. Now keep in
mind,
miracles to us,
the great miracles
come to prophet Jesus.
Okay. Then there are lesser
that happened.
Okay.
What else happens after this Armageddon,
prophet,
the the
the the great force of darkness of the
Earth that spread on the earth
and causing all these problems is gone
after this battle.
The height of the battle is in Jerusalem.
Okay?
Prophet Aisha then marches through the whole world.
He doesn't rest. There is no rest.
He marches throughout the entire world
telling the people, here's the truth. This is
the final hour.
There is no more jizya.
No more. What is jizya and?
To be a is listen. I don't wanna
enter Islam, but I'm not gonna fight. I'll
just live under your roof as Muslims.
Okay? And I'll live I'll just stay Christian.
I'll stay whatever.
I say, fine. You pay us. You don't
stay in the army. You don't go to
the army. K?
But you pay a jizya. Prophet is saying
there's no time
for this anymore. There's no time for jizya.
Accept this message or I'm fighting you.
K?
He does this.
And where is the biggest
resistance that he's gonna have? And the biggest
battle that the prophet Jesus is gonna
face, India.
It's called,
as the Hadith of the prophet says,
Right?
Is mentioned by the prophet
because it is so massive.
K. It's already how many 1,000,000,000 people living
there? Like almost 2. Almost 2,000,000,000 people.
K.
How much idolatry how
much of a stronghold does Iblis have
on that area?
Okay.
Such a stronghold.
And that will be a massive fight, but
he will travel the entire he won't stop.
Prophet
will go and spread tawhid and Islam and
the truth everywhere.
He will come back
being inspired with the Quran. He will be
know the Quran. He will know the Sharia,
and he will live on the law of
Muhammad Sallallahu Alaihi Wasallam.
He will affirm the truth that Muhammad Sallallahu
Alaihi Wasallam was a prophet. He will break
the cross and bring all the Christians unified
with Muslims.
The Christians will leave off all of their
cross, crucifixion,
trinity beliefs,
and believe the truth about the prophet ace
of Imadiyem, and they will see him in
front of them.
And keep in mind, there is only one
prophet
who the world has an agreement what he
looks like.
The whole world knows what prophet Jesus looks
like. For example, we can say what the
prophet looked like.
Right? We don't depict the prophet, but we
know how he looked. We know his hair
was wavy, not curly nor straight.
We know,
the skin tone.
We know a lot of things about the
messenger.
He had a wide mouth, full lips. So
if you bring me someone with a thin
mouth
small mouth and thin lips, we know it's
not the prophet. Bring me someone with curly
hair, we know it's not the prophet. Perfectly
straight hair, blonde hair, brown hair, red hair,
we know it's not the prophet.
There's only one person in the world. You
show him this picture.
In China, they'll know who he is. That's
Jesus.
The reddish hair that looks wet, that's that's
wavy, that's down to the shoulders, as the
prophet said the same thing. A reddish feature
to him
with a beard,
okay, and always looks wet
and of a lighter complexion.
Moses of a darker complexion, the prophet in
the middle.
The entire world sort of will know who
he is.
K? There's a wisdom why that image is
spread around, and it is the same exact
image as the prophet described. Reddish hair parted
down flowing down looks like it's wet.
I'm a fuzzer. You need that check. Right?
Two checks. Two checks. Okay.
I'm sorry. I didn't write them yet. Can
you,
in in the trunk the checkbook's in the
trunk. Can you actually get it? The keys
are in my jacket. The checkbook's in the
trunk. I got a pen. I'll write the
checks.
K?
Never
thought about that. They missed something. Yeah. The
whole world needs to know who what he
looks like because he's gonna come down on
profit Ace of Mudar. How do you verify?
We all know you.
Everyone knows his face.
I can't think of 1 person Oh, Jack,
it's downstairs.
That their face is so widespread Yeah. Like,
it's impossible you don't know. Yeah. Like, even
if you go to, like, some remote village
in, like Mhmm. America. They're
Yeah. Like, it's
impossible you don't know. Yeah. Like, even if
you go to, like, some remote village in,
like Mhmm. America. They're gonna know who he
is. Pictures everybody. Yeah.
So the imam Mahdi brings all the Muslims
together
and ends any division amongst Muslims. There's no
more,
following any group. You don't need to follow
opinions. You have the final Mujtahhid imam al
Mahdi.
And then prophet Aisa's role is to bring
the Christians into the fold with of Islam.
I tell this to Christians all the time.
They laugh. I said, well, let's wait and
see. I'm not I'm not gonna argue. It's
the truth.
Wait and see.
Prophet Asa comes inspired with the knowledge of
the Quran and the Sharia.
K? You think that's far fetched? I said,
why do you think that's far fetched? How
about rising up
for 2000 years in the heavens and then
coming back down?
Right? You already believe that?
So why is it Farfetch that he'll be
inspired with the Arabic tongue and the knowledge
of the Quran and knowledge of the sacred
law? Imam Mahdi passes away, then say Naysid
travels with the Muslims and he does this.
For many, many years, not just a few
years. This one is a longer period of
time. Now where is the limit that Allah
has placed?
Prophet
does all of this
until Allah brings out
a group of people who have lived long,
long ago
that we believe as an article of faith,
essentially, not an article of faith, but,
we believe in it.
They are human beings
who have been living
somewhere under the ground
for centuries.
Someone says, oh, we're in an age of
science. You believe in this nonsense?
I actually believe that science is a lot
more limited than we imagine it to be.
There is a lot that we don't know.
So, yes, I do believe in it.
Yet are
2 tribes,
and they are so many
people, so many people,
and they will finally break out and rise
to the surface of the earth.
You know that there are caves
there are caves in Asia
that are so huge. You can fit entirety
of New York City in them.
There are caves that you could fit a
whole country in them, and there is ways
in which they get sunlight too.
Right? But they're below the surface there,
deep in caves. Who knows? We don't know
these things. K?
So, Yajuja Majuj, prophet Isa is not given
permission to defeat them. In other words, he
cannot defeat them.
What does he do? He rises with the
Muslims to the mountaintops.
Yet
come on the earth, and they do such
a amount of damage
that cannot be described. Oh, I'm sorry. The
checkbook,
it's, like, in the trunk. Yeah.
Foundation.
It's a big black,
book, big black,
binder.
They do such an amount of damage. It's
it's unspeakable
that even the great prophet Ayesha flees from
them.
K?
Nobody could stop the Jew the tribes
yet. Until how do they die? A virus.
Clearly, that makes sense because in in fact,
they're not in their natural atmosphere.
It's only a period of time. It's not
even you know, we can't even say multiple
years. Just a short period of time. They
come up. They do immense amount of damage
to the world.
Then Allah brings down a great rain
that washes away their bodies, and the earth
rains and rains and rains. And that brings
us to the last period
of the Earth, and that is a period
of
great revival of the physical Earth.
The sources of pollution are gone. The rivers
are flowing clean again.
Okay? And this is a wonderful period in
which
no one
no one resists
and nope nobody
is inclined to evil. Goodness has spread far
and wide. The prophet, peace be upon him,
said about this, a little girl could walk
from one town to the next.
She won't even worry about wolves.
Right? And another narration, because even the wolves
will be won't even have the the anger
inside or the the aggression inside. Another hadith,
all she would worry about is wolves. Right?
So the humans, the the the males will
be safe. The the people will be clean.
The prophet
said, the earth will be so
revived
that a whole family,
a whole tribe can eat a watermelon, a
whole tribe.
That's how big the fruit will be. The
animals will be so fat
that when people give
charity, when they give their charity money,
that nobody will know who to take it,
who to give it to. There will be
nobody to take it. Nobody will say, I'm
poor. I need the money. Everyone will be
will have wealth
that they need. And if they don't have
the wealth they need, they'll be satisfied.
No one will take it. A man will
walk around with his zakah and not know
where to give the zakah.
It's a very sweet period, and the the
work that prophet and those companions put through
forth,
they now reap the rewards of it.
Until and the capital now moves to Medina.
And there,
the prophet,
Okay.
Will pass away.
And there is a gap
at the grave of the prophet
on the left
that is saved for him,
and he will be buried there. After what?
After having married and had children.
Then the prophet, sallallahu alaihi wasallam, said a
small
a a very cool breeze will come, meaning
an era, a short period of time, maybe
a year or 2 years.
Very
peacefully, very slowly,
all the believers will die. A peaceful death.
Then there will be no more Muslims on
the earth. No believers on the earth.
Remaining only on the earth will be the
scattered
people who refuse to follow prophet
and stuck stubbornly
to their idolatry.
Okay? And they will be the worst of
people because they saw the truth.
The truth had all the wealth.
They still didn't go into it. Like, wouldn't
you go, okay. At least they're the winning
side. They got all the wealth. Right? Even
that, they wouldn't do. Here. Could you write
them outside?
Alright. So it's not even like because, you
know, a lot of people, they give up
religion for material. Yeah. Even that, they don't
even they don't even,
It's really like the worst. You know why
you'd be the worst of the worst. At
least come in to enjoy the the wealth.
Right? Then the major signs,
there are more major signs would come after
that.
There's no after that. Like, if you cannot
believe after that, it's there. Pen is there.
In inside inside the binder. Is that after
that or
The first four signs are known. The order,
Mahdi.
The jed.
The next six signs,
it's unknown when they'll come.
But there will be a point, Halas, like,
if you didn't accept this,
then that's it. Your heart is locked.
And the
calamities of the end times, now we don't
know how long they'll live. Be a world
full just nonbelievers. Nobody else. Just nonbelievers.
Right?
No. We don't know how long it is.
Even the prophet
said
that
time will pass.
There will be life on earth
after all the Muslims passed away, but there
will be no iman on the Earth.
And that
people will say,
right,
Mecca
used to be a place that Muslims live
that that people lived. It used to be
a populated city. Medina will be be a
pop used to be a place people lived.
Or they used to someone will say so
generations will live so much so that some
people will say,
we had grandparents.
I remember them saying something about Allah,
the word Allah. Like, they don't even know
what it is.
So generations will live, but there will be
no iman, no Islam.
Will just be buildings, and they'll be empty.
No one will go into them. Right?
So it's as if to say that generation
of believers will die off.
The rest of the nonbelieving world will continue
to live on,
and then Islam will be a forgotten thing
in the world. The world will move on.
Right? Then the judgment will come upon them
because there will be no true believers on
the earth at that time. K.
Is this lasting,
how much time is this lasting? Allah knows
best, but we do know the Mehdi rules
7 years, prophet rules 40 years, and they
do overlap
for 1 or 2 or 3 years. So
the entire thing is 1 is in within
1 generation. If you live to see the
beginning of it, you'll see pretty much prophet
Ace of Imari.
If you live to see the Mahdi, you
will if you live a normal lifespan, you'll
see prophet.
It all happens in 1 generation.
Then once that generation dies out, after
that,
only the worst of the worst will live
on.
Says,
what about
the Hadith
about the
1,000 or 1500 years? Where do you get
that? That comes in 2 in a week
Hadith. In the week hadith states
that the prophet sallallahu alaihi wasallam asked Allah,
how much will my ummah last?
Allah responded to him, if they obey a
1000 years, if they disobey or or a
a day, a day with Allah is a
1000 years,
If they disobey half a day,
500 years. So surmises,
and he has a little treatise on this.
Surmises
the Muslims were good in the beginning.
They had a 1000 years of goodness.
Then they'll disobey.
They'll only get 500 years.
So he says that the history of the
whole Ummah is is 1500 years with speculation.
He's speculating.
Why is he speculating? He says, why else
do we have this hadith? Allah wants us
to think about it. Right?
He wants us to think about it. So
that's the concept of where we get this
this idea of 1500 years.
Then he does math backwards,
does the math backwards.
So if we know that
the prophet, Aisha,
rules 400 years, then upon his death is
death, Umma. So 1500
minus 40 is
1460.
K?
And then 1460,
then we know that Imam Mahdi comes before
him for a few year by a few
years.
So
14
what? How many years? 5 years? 6 years?
Who knows? We don't know how long. So
14 fifties.
Right? Around that time.
And, ultimately, at the end of the day,
this is not encouraged for a Muslim to
do, this mathematics.
He maybe just did it, wrote it once,
but it's not something he preached regularly or
wrote about all over his books. Why?
The unseen,
you're spying on Allah, essentially. It's as if
you're spying on Allah. Leave the future to
Allah to add. If he wanted us to,
he would've told us.
I love what Habib Omar always says. He
says, what will you do if the Mahdi
comes?
Right? What will the Mahdi ask you to
do?
Act by the Sharia. Right? So we already
have the Sharia, and we can act upon
it now.
So you just keep doing it. Mendy is
not bringing a new law. Prophet Ace is
not bringing a new law.
Okay. Except that he abrogates the jizya.
Okay. He abrogates the he abrogates jizya.
K.
So,
these are the,
that's the summary
of
what is.
And as you see there, the 2 great
wars. 1, around that middle area, the Middle
East area, Jerusalem,
and the second one
in India. And what does the Quran say?
You'll find the most
hateful
in their animosity towards you. Most the
the the strongest in their hatred of you
are El Yahud
and those who
worship false gods. Who worships false gods on
the earth?
India.
You go to China. Do you see false
gods all over the place? No.
China, they're like, I don't know what they're
on. Confusion, some Christians.
But but one thing is true. You don't
go walking around seeing false gods. If I
go to a Chinese store,
we have some on East Brunswick. We got
a Chinese, like,
cultural store, essentially. It's big. It's huge. I
don't see I don't see gods.
I go to any store.
Any store. Even the the 99¢ store, the
$1 shop
right in my near my house, North Brunswick.
He go and you buy, like, lighters, lighter
fluid and stuff like that. Regular
stuff.
You go to this to the cash register,
there's little gods, 5¢ gods, $5 gods. Right?
It's gods everywhere. So truly,
the people true shirk right now is in
is in India
more than anywhere else. Right?
The Buddhists are there are 2 different types.
Thank you. I'm sorry for not writing them
earlier.
They they have different types.
Some hold him as a holy man. Some
hold him as I think they worship him.
Right?
I remember that back in, comparative religion days.
There's the,
two strands of Buddhists.
Thought there was just, like, energy because, like,
they all say he's a human that can't
Human. Well, yeah, they're split in 2. All
of them suck. They're split in 2. Some
yeah.
Yeah.
Alright. Let's see what else. Jason Atrides says,
the remaining period of your stay on the
Earth in comparison days before he's like the
prayer of Asuna and sunset in Bukhary.
So
As to sunset
is
means 3 fourths of human history is over.
Right? The advent of the prophet himself
marks 3 fourths. Alright. Thanks, Wes.
Alright. Marks the 3 fourths of the day.
Okay?
What does Habib Omar say? He said,
all of the minor signs the the minor
signs mostly have come awaiting on the big
the the major signs and the bulk of
that period of time, of that era
of the end of time. The bulk of
it is gone, but the worst of it
is yet to come. What is all this?
Someone said you didn't get on stream today,
so I have to Someone said you didn't
get on stream today. Alright. Zayb, open up.
Open up.
Mhmm. Got it.
The people of the Torah, says Jason,
were given the Torah, and they acted upon
it till midday.
So prophet Isa's advent
is would be he's reciting hadiths. I know
these hadiths. I just didn't remember them until
he mentioned them. Then they were worn out
and were given the reward of their labor.
K?
Then
okay.
So midday would mark the coming of Jesus,
which is it it is sort of makes
sense in the sense that
humans had forgot the power of Allah. Halfway
through,
the prophet Ayesha bin Mariam
is a reminder of the creative power of
Allah and that this cause and effect that
we live with every single day
only exists because Allah wants it to exist,
not because it has any power in itself.
It's a reminder of god's power, the creation
of Jesus without a father. K?
It's a reminder of god's power. Alright. Open
up.
K.
Thank you for these hadith, Jason.
What's the what what question? Which one is
that?
A d says x here.
Alright. Good for you. I'm confused about something.
Why is Muawi considered a Khadija?
He's not. We don't consider Muawi Khadija.
Even though She said that.
Oh, why is he not considered a even
though he did against Harry?
Requires
you to submit and then rebel. He never
submitted in the 1st place.
And we hold his submission his his nonsubmission
to be an error
based upon an incorrect
attempt to find the truth.
You see?
We hold,
k, the
refusal
of
to submit to to be
based upon an error
in seeking to find the truth.
Okay? Why do we uphold as Sunni as
Muslims
the honor of Muawiya as a companion,
as someone whose mistakes are mistakes of errors
as opposed to evil. Why? Because we are
in fact upholding the prophet with that. The
Messenger Sallallahu
Alaihi Wasallam
appointed Muawiyah,
Sayidina Muawiyah
as
a scribe
of the Quran
and of his personal letters.
Would the prophet sallallahu alaihi wa sallam leave
his will, his words, the word of Allah
in the hands of somebody
who was who was dishonest,
who was corrupt.
So that's why the upholding of and
his,
k,
is in fact upholding the prophet sallallahu alaihi
wa sallam.
And the opposite is true. If you are
going against,
then what are you saying about the prophet
having made him a scribe?
Okay. And there there's no discussion the prophet
made him a scribe.
Right?
And you know why there's no discussion? Because
she had themselves love a hadith that seems
to put in a bad light. What's that
hadith? The prophet said,
get me I need a scribe.
They went and got and they found him
eating.
So
they went to the messenger, some of the
law said, oh, he's eating.
Well, first of all, he he maybe was
new in Islam.
Maybe he didn't know when the prophet calls
you, you break everything. Even
your salah, you speed it up. Or some
of the scholars said if the prophet calls
you and you're praying a sunnah prayer or
a nafila,
non obligatory prayer,
even an obligatory prayer, you walk to him,
answer him, do what he tells you to
do,
and go back and pick up where you
left off.
Imagine that. Prophet sallallahu alaihi wa sallam
calls your name while you're praying.
You don't send them out of the prayer.
You walk to him. Fulfill what he needs
you to do
because it's as if you're in prayer while
obeying the prophet.
K? And
and then you go back to where your
prayer spot and you where you left off.
No takbih or anything. Just exactly as you
left off. So the prophet was told he's
eating.
The
he they went a few minutes later
when they assume the person would have finished
eating.
And they said, oh, message of Allah, he's
still
eating.
2 times now the prophet called you and
you didn't come to answer him. So what
do we attribute this to? He's new in
Islam.
Right? And we have other companions who did
the same thing. That's why Allah revealed Quran.
Right?
Why don't you answer
to the prophet, peace be upon him, when
he calls you to to do something? Because
Sahaba were doing other things and didn't come
to the prophet.
So they didn't know.
Ignorance is not sinful. So what did the
prophet say? The prophet, peace be upon him,
said,
he's still eating. May Allah never satiate his
stomach.
Right? So you're gonna prefer your food over
your messenger? Right? Well, may you never get
what you want from your food.
Why did the prophet do that?
That removes his sin.
That is an expiation of his sin. There
is a hadith about the prophet.
The prophet said, oh, Allah, whenever I get
upset at my companions, make it an expiation
for their sins.
So that when the prophet is upset with
a companion,
that that upsetness wipes away their sins.
Right?
So
the first time, fine. He didn't know. The
second time? No. That's not acceptable. Celeste, you've
been eating for 30 minutes. Go and answer
the prophet, peace man. That's no excuse for
that second time. First time, excuse. 2nd time,
no excuse. So they like to cite that
hadith against Muawiyah and and say that Muawiyah
did end up being somebody who could never
satiate his stomach. He was always full.
Right?
You know what some some of the mufasidin
said? They said this was the Quran
Right? The pure marry the pure
And the filthy
marry the filthy. Right?
So what are you saying then about the
prophet, peace be upon him?
And how are you gonna curse Omar Ibn
Khattab when Saeed N Ali ibn Abi Thadab
married his own daughter to Omar?
Right? So what are you saying about either
you're gonna say something bad about Omar or
you're gonna say something bad about, say, Nadia's
daughter or you're gonna say something bad about
Ali himself because he knowingly married his daughter
off to Omar.
So what are you saying about Omar or
Ali? He's marrying his daughter to a.
It's all a convoluted,
inconsistent thing that can be undone
and
disposed
of
quickly.
Harun Matin
is in Europe.
K.
Jason,
another
say, what are your thoughts on this?
We wrote in the zabur after the message,
my servants are
the righteous
shall inherit the earth. Yes. The true believers
will always eventually inherit the earth. What does
inherit the earth meaning?
Have victory and be established in the earth.
At the time, it was,
whoever what the prophet of that time was.
It's for whoever was the prophet of that
time.
K?
In Germany, I'm very interested in reading about
awakening your heart with.
Even if you do not have a shaykh,
try to get up in the middle of
the night and remember Allah and make dua
and make much salah on the Prophet salallahu
alaihi wa sallam and watch videos.
You have Habib Umar there has a German
translator,
Sheikh Mahmoud, his name is.
Look for him. He has an institute. He
teaches classes.
Try to find I don't know his last
name. Look up in your phone. Sheikh Mahmoud,
Germany.
K.
He is,
your go to in Germany inshallah.
Does not seeing the prophet in a dream
mean that you are lacking?
No.
If you don't see the prophet in a
dream, it does not mean you're you're missing
out on that virtue, of course. There's no
doubt about that. But we can't say that
that person
is lacking.
In other words, his deen is defective. We
cannot say that. He could be fully
pious and upright, and he doesn't see the
prophet suballahu alaihi wa sanna.
Do you have any advice on increasing memorization
and how to effectively retain what's previously memorized?
Yes. Simple advice, Ta'hadul Quran. Never miss a
day and be patient. Never miss a day.
Continue to review and be patient.
And don't listen to music and lower your
gaze from the Haram.
Red Robin says, can you make analysis about
the events during Mahdi's return and our current
day?
It's,
the best
the best approach,
k,
to
Akhirizaman
is just to read the sound hadiths and
stop right there.
It's not good to try to link them
to today. Okay? Why? Because if you're wrong,
people will say, oh, the whole thing is
wrong.
Right?
Imam Ahmed was very strict on the signs
of the end of time. Why? Because if
a false hadith enters in and you believe
it, then the opposite happens. What would you
say of all the hadith?
So that's why I take a very conservative
approach.
Just the safest approach.
Cite
the hadith as they have come
soundly and stop there.
We don't necessarily
but but now what we can do is
if it's a prophecy, then, yes, we could
look around and say it's here. Did not
the prophet said one day there will be
come a time when metal speaks
and a sandal strap and the shoelace and
and a man's stick or whip will tell
him what's happening in his home.
So what is sandal strap and whip is
your everyday objects will be informing you
about other mundane things. Right?
So my watch, my phone is informing me
of what's happening in my family, what's happening
in my life, what's happening in my home.
I can know who's who's knocking on my
door if I have ring.
You know, the Amazon doorbell. Alright.
So,
that we can do. The prophet, peace be
upon him, talked about those competing in building
tall buildings.
Oh, we see them in the desert.
They're all vacant and yet they're still
why why is everyone saying the stream is
down?
Just refresh it, folks.
Was fulfilled
with Mohammed bin Qasem? I think believe
is referred to for.
Yep.
Alright, ladies and gentlemen.
We stop here. We can pick this up
tomorrow,
everybody.
Tomorrow, Islam in Japan and other things. We'll
lot to talk about tomorrow,
with our guest tomorrow, so make sure you
join us for that.