Ali Ataie – My Encounter With an ExMuslim Pastor Wanting to Capitalize On Debates About Islam

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A former Muslim man talks about a recent debate with a guest, who is a former Muslim man. The guest suggests engaging in debate with the guest, using the Quran to make a positive statement about one's character. The guest and the guest discuss topics like the guest's political status and the guest's desire to make money. The guest also talks about a former Muslim man who was clueless and clueless about the topic of the debate.

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			Anyway, I said to him after I said,
		
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			do you wanna do, like, a debate?
		
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			I think it'd be interesting because you're you're
		
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			a former Muslim,
		
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			and, you know, I'm Muslim.
		
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			And, maybe we can have, like, a debate.
		
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			Let people know what happened. Let people judge.
		
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			You know, the Quran tells us to engage
		
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			in.
		
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			Right?
		
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			To engage in debate with
		
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			with,
		
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			with
		
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			with Hikma, with wisdom, which Ihorlamah say means
		
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			here, with academic rigor, sophistication.
		
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			And and with beautiful exhortation or preaching, where
		
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			they say you're with good character.
		
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			Right? This is the Sunnah way of making.
		
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			Right, is to have a good,
		
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			logos, as Aristotle would say, good logic, right,
		
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			to have to be intelligent, to use reason,
		
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			but also good ethos or ethos,
		
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			which means to have good character.
		
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			So so he said,
		
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			yeah. Let's let's discuss that.
		
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			So okay. So we I I didn't think
		
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			I'd ever hear from him again. I mean,
		
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			I hear this all the time. But lo
		
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			and behold, you know, he called me and
		
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			he said, let's meet at this restaurant that
		
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			we can talk about the debate and the
		
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			parameters and whatnot.
		
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			I said, great.
		
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			So we go there and,
		
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			so I'll never forget. He he looked at
		
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			me, you know, this Christian pastor, former Muslim,
		
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			apparently, and he said
		
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			and he started speaking Farsi to me to,
		
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			you know, to get on my even though
		
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			I don't speak Farsi very well.
		
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			But he said,
		
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			John,
		
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			First and foremost,
		
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			I'm a businessman.
		
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			Okay.
		
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			He said we can make
		
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			a lot of money doing this. So
		
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			alright. I I guess so. I'm sitting there
		
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			and I'm I'm clueless. Right? It's like, I'm
		
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			not hip to the game apparently.
		
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			I'm uninitiated.
		
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			And he said and I said, oh, so
		
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			he said, what topics do we think about?
		
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			I give all these. Oh, slow it off.
		
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			Slow it off. We we could do this
		
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			topic this day. You'll say this. I'll say
		
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			this. We'll go back and forth.
		
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			We won't reveal too much.
		
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			And then the sec second debate, you know,
		
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			will get more people. We'll charge prices.
		
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			This is not
		
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			so, okay.
		
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			And then he kinda looked at me and
		
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			said, you know, sometimes they still recite the
		
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			Quran.
		
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			So, okay.
		
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			And then suddenly it clicked in my mind.
		
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			I said to
		
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			him, are you Muslim?
		
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			Has anyone liked it?
		
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			I said, so how?
		
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			Wow.
		
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			So this is a very good job. That's
		
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			basically he's a I and he had, like,
		
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			a Hummer outside,
		
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			you know,
		
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			and he lives in, like, Ruby Hills or
		
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			something like that
		
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			wearing a Armani suit.