Ali Ataie – Jesus in Islam Addressing Misconceptions About God’s Messenger

Ali Ataie
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The speakers discuss the use of "verbal" in the Bible and the importance of Jesus being the father of the world. They stress the importance of knowing God and love for him to increase one's love and love one's neighbor. The transcript uses Greek and Greek versions of Isa' statement, including one that describes Jesus as the seal of prophets and a misperception that Jesus is the only non contingent being.
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This is Ali Atayi, lecturer of comparative theologies

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at Setuna College.

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We have reached in our Ramadan series entitled

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the courageous 5, the great iconoclastic

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prophets. We have reached our master, Isa alaihi

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salam, the prophet Jesus Christ, peace be upon

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him. Isa ibn Mariam alaihi masalaam, Jesus the

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son of Mary, peace be upon both of

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them.

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Jesus, peace be upon him, is unique amongst

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these 5 in the sense that he was

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actually deified by many of his followers.

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And today,

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the belief that Isa

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is God, is Allah Subhanahu wa ta'ala

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is far and away the dominant theology

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amongst the Christian community.

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The verse that I'm going to use to

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set the stage as it were for this

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session is at the end of Surah Al

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Maida, ayah number 116,

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which Allah Subhanahu Wa Ta'ala says,

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first of all, the particle iph according to

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Imamatuntawi

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is a particle of futurity.

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However, the the verb that comes directly after

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is past tense. It's perfect tense.

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However, the meaning is future. So, this is

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called a prophetic past tense. So, this happens

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from time to time in the Quran. Allah

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Subhanahu Wa Ta'ala says for example,

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And usually this is translated, the believers will

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prevail or will win. But here the verb

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is past perfect or Allah Subhanahu Wa Ta'ala

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says speaking directly to the prophet Muhammad

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In a'utaina

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is past tense but usually translated,

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we will give you kawthar. What is kawthar?

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One of the meanings is nahrunfiljannah,

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a river in Jannah. But the prophet sallallahu

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alaihi wasallam does not have access to this

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river while he's living in Mecca. So what

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is the import of this prophetic past? We

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also find it in the Hebrew Bible, in

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Isaiah chapter 9 verse 6. It says,

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Indeed a son or a child will be

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given to us. But this verb in the

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Hebrew, yulad is perfect

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passive, but it's translated in the future.

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What is the rhetorical import of the prophetic

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past? Is that it represents

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a guarantee

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a guarantee from Allah Subhanahu Wa Ta'ala that

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this conversation will take place

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between Allah Subhanahu Wa Ta'ala and their isa

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alaihis salam. When will it take place?

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According to Imam al Suyuti,

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on the day of judgment in front of

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the whole of humanity Allah

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will say

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God will say, oh Jesus, the son of

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Mary, and interestingly, ibn Maryam, this guttural alif

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is retained in the orthography,

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to emphasize as it were that Isa alaihis

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salam is not the literal son of God,

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he is the son of Maryam. And Maryam

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alaihis salam is great in her own right.

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In fact, Imam ibn Hazm and Imam Al

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Khortubi, both of them insist that Maryam alaihis

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salam was actually

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a prophet.

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So what is the question that Allah Subhanahu

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Wa Ta'ala is going to pose to Isa

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alaihis salam in front of the whole of

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humanity?

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He says,

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This hamza at the beginning of this statement

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is istifhamiyyah.

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In other words, Allah subhanahu wa ta'ala is

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asking a question here. And he says,

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very interesting

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in its syntax, in its construction here. The

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verb, kulta,

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the morphology of this verb suggests

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second person masculine singular.

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Right? Did you say? Well, Allah subhanahu wa

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ta'ala here, he says, anta also. This seems

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somewhat redundant,

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But the rhetorical import of that is to

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stress the Jew actually say. The Jew say

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to humanity.

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What did he say?

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What is Allah subhanahu wa ta'ala asking?

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Did you ever say to the people? And

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form 8, it's reflexive.

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Did you ever say take me

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for yourselves and my mother as deities

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other than Allah

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Imam,

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Abdullah ibn Alawih al Hadad as well as

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Imam al Suyuti, both of them say here

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that when this question is posed to Isa,

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he begins to tremble. He be he begins

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to shake and quake from the force of

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the question.

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Now interestingly here, western polemicists,

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they look at this eye of the Quran,

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and they say look the Quran has it

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wrong. The Quran has a a strange conception,

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an erroneous conception of the trinity. That the

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Quran conceives it as being somewhat of a

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holy family, the father, son and the holy

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mother. But this is not a necessary conclusion.

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I don't see this verse as denouncing the

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trinity, at least not in this verse.

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I see this verse as denouncing what's known

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as Christolatry,

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the deification

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of Christ alaihis salam, and Mariolatry,

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the deification of Maryam alaihis salam. And we're

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gonna talk about how Christ was deified. But

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how was Maryam alaihis salam deified? A quick

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example, the 3rd ecumenical council and 431 of

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the common era, the Council of Ephesus.

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It was voted upon by the proto orthodox

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bishops

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that Maryam

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is Theatakas,

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which some have translated

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as the mother of God, but a more

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accurate translation is the bearer or carrier of

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God. So to suggest that an entity has

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the power or capacity

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to carry or bear God, to handle God,

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is to impute upon that entity a divine

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quality.

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So I don't see this verse as denouncing

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the trinity,

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nor intermediacy

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through Maryam,

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nor even the explicit worship of Mary, but

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rather assigning Mary divine attributes,

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deifying Maryam

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Now listen to the response of

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He says glory be to you. And and

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linguistically here this is called

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an absolute

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an infinitive absolute for an apocopated

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verb. So it's very direct, It's very exclamatory.

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Glory be to you. Now I'm reminded of

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Matthew

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chapter 7 verses 21 to 23. And the

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parallel of this is found in Luke chapter

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13, which means it originated from the q

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source document, which scholars of Western Academy believed

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to be the best and most accurate

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source of the synoptic gospels, Matthew, Mark, and

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Luke. This is what Jesus is reported to

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have said in Matthew 7 21 to 23.

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He says, not everyone who says to me,

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kurie kurie in the Greek,

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master master

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shall enter the kingdom of heaven, but only

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the one

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But only the one who does the will

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of the father. Now let's take a quick

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excursion here to talk about the term father

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in the New Testament. Imam Al Ghazali

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as well as Ahmed ibn Alawi, they both

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say that when you read the term father

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in the Injeel, in the New Testament,

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think Rab. Ab means rub.

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What Who is your Rab? The Rab is

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the one who takes care of you in

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stages,

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as our parents take care of us in

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stages.

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So there's a there's a relationship here,

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between the rub and ab.

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Interestingly enough, if you look at these 5

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great prophets, at least 4 of them did

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not have their biological fathers in their lives.

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If you look for example at,

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Adam alice at

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Ibrahim alaihis salam. Ibrahim alaihis salam, his father

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was not Azza, that was his uncle and

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it's permissible to call your uncle Ab.

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Like he says in Surah Maryam, he says

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According to Ibn Hisham, the name of the

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father of Ibrahim alaihis salam was Tariq or

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Tarah as he's called in the book of

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Genesis.

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So Ibrahim alaihis salam has tarbiyah rabbaniyah.

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Allah

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is the one who raised him. In that

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sense, Ibrahim alaihis salam is the son of

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God. In that metaphorical sense, not in the

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literal sense. And this is what Imam al

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Ghazali is trying to impart upon us. If

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you look at Musa alaihis salam, he did

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not have his biological father. He was raised

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in the house of Firaun, but Allah

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took care of him and raised him. He

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is Tarbiyar Rabaniyah.

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Isa alaihis salam did not have a father

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to begin with. Tarbiyar Rabaniyah.

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The prophet Muhammad sallallahu alaihi wasallam, his father

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died before he was born. He was raised

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by Allah

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in that sense that Allah was taking care

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of him.

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Allah speaking to him directly, the verb is

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second masculine,

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singular. Rabuka. Have you not seen or understood

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the significance of your Lord as to what

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he did to the companions of the elephant?

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In other words, why do you think I

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did that? I was taking care of you.

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That was the year that you were going

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to be born.

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Did he not find you an orphan and

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give you shelter? Did he not find you

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searching and enamored and give you guidance? Allah

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Subhanahu Wa Ta'ala is reminding the prophet

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that he raised him up in stages. This

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is the meaning according to the New Testament

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of

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of pater, of abba, of father. It means

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the rub, the one who takes care of

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you. It denotes God imminent.

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And we find this analogy,

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this this terminology in the Old and New

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Testament. In the New Testament of course, Isa

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is reported to have said in the Sermon

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on the Mount, in Syriac, his actual language,

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he said,

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our father who art in heaven, all of

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us, our father who art in heaven, hallowed

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be thy name. If we look into Psalm

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826,

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it says, All of you are sons of

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the most high God. In fact, in Isaiah

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chapter 64, one of the prayers of the

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prophet Isaiah

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is. You are the Lord our father.

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So this is very Hebraic type language

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and it's meant to be majaz. It's meant

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to be figurative language, denoting an intimate relationship

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between Allah

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and his servants. So let's go back to

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Matthew 7 21.

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Only those who do the will of the

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father. He continues.

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On that day, many will come to me

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and say,

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master master, did we not prophesize in your

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name, cast out demons in your name, and

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in your name perform many dunamis,

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which is a Greek word,

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means miracles of power, you know, healings, raising

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the dead, walking on water.

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Listen to the response of Isa alaihis salam

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as recorded by Matthew.

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He says, then I will tell them plainly,

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never did I know you.

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Present, active, imperative.

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In

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Greek, it calls for the action to be

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prolonged.

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Meaning, depart from me and stay away from

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me.

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You workers of lawlessness,

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of a nomos,

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you antinomians,

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you rejecters of the Sharia.

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You see without the Sharia, to ground them

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in sound theology,

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many took to deifying

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Isa alaihis salam. Some have dubbed this as

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Ghazalian mirror Christology.

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That when the when the light of Allah

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reflected off

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the purified heart of Isa

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Those who weren't grounded in sound theology, those

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who did not follow the Sharia, they didn't

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know the mitzvot of Bani Israel. When they

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saw that reflection, they mistook

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the illuminated reflection

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for the illuminating

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source and began to deify Isa alaihis salam.

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It is as if they saw the,

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reflection of the moon in a still lake

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and jumped into the lake and hoped of

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grabbing the moon only to find themselves drowning.

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Yet how great is the difference between the

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actual moon and its reflection in the lake?

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How much more vast is the difference between

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Allah subhanahu wa ta'ala and a human being.

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There's nothing like the likes of Allah subhanahu

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wa ta'ala whatsoever. We'll continue with this discussion

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next time insha Allah ta'ala. Wassalamu alaykumu rahmatullahi

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wa barakatuh.

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This is our 2nd session. We're talking about

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Sayna Isa alaihis salam, our master Jesus Christ,

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peace be upon him, the son of Mary

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peace be upon her. So, last time we

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were talking about this verse at the end

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of Surah Al Maida aye number 116,

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which Allah subhanahu wa ta'ala

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in the Yomul Qiyama will ask Isa alaihis

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salam, Did you ever say to humanity?

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Take me or my mother as gods

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in addition or other than Allah

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And we said that the initial response of

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Isa alaihis salam is direct and explanatory.

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He says, Subhanaka,

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glory be to you. He continues according to

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the Quran.

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Is an imperfect tense verb. And usually in

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Arabic the imperfect tense is negated with a

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laam alif like

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But the is used for strong negation.

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For example, Allah Subhanahu wa ta'ala says,

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taking an oath by the star when it

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goes down.

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Your companion, meaning the Holy Prophet Sallallahu Alaihi

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Wasallam is not

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astray or being misled.

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And he never speaks from his hawai. The

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prophet sallallahu alaihi wasallam, everything he says is

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wahi, is guided by Allah

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He said sallallahu alaihi wasalam

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He says, by the one who sent me

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in truth, nothing comes out of this pointing

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to his blessed mouth except for the truth.

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So Isa alaihis salam's response here,

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never will it be for me

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never will it be for me to say

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what I had no right to say.

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This is his response, Isa alaihis salam, according

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to the Quran, he continues,

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If I said that, in is a conditional

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particle,

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then you would have known that.

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You know what is in,

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you know what is in myself? Well, I

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do not know what is in yourself.

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Verily, you are the knower of the unseen.

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Interestingly, if you look at the gospel of

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John chapter 12 verse 29,

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which is usually the gospel that most Christians

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will point to to sort of prove that

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Isa

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is God. However, in the gospel of John,

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and we'll analyze some of these ayat in

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coming sessions, these verses in the bible in

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coming sessions.

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John 12 29, he says according to the

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Greek, he says,

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He says, from myself I have said nothing.

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But the father who sent me,

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He has given me a commandment,

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Isa alaihis salam is saying in the gospel

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of John,

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in the gospel of John that God is

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commanding him. We read in the Quran that

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Isa alaihis salam is reported to have said,

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That Allah Subhanahu wa ta'ala, he has commanded

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me to prayer and charity as long as

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I live. But going back to John 1229,

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that he has given me a commandment.

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What to say and how I should say

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it. Both of these Greek verbs are in

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the subjunctive. In other words, Isa alaihis salam

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is receiving the ipsisama verba,

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the very words of Allah Subhanahu wa ta'ala.

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As a prophet, he is speaking the words

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of Allah Subhanahu wa ta'ala but also he

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speaks with the ipsissima vox, the voice of

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God. He speaks with God's

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authority as a prophet.

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In John 16:24,

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he

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says, The word you hear or the teaching

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you hear is not mine. He continues in

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John 14:1, he says,

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present active imperative.

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Again, in Greek, the present active imperative calls

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for the action to be prolonged. He says,

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believe

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Believe in the God. Definite article in Greek

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means God

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with a capital g. Believe in the God,

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believe in God. And Allah

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He continues,

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And also believe in me.

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Believe in God and also believe in me.

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Believe in Allah

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and believe in the messenger of Allah. Clearly

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here, God and Isa alaihis salam are mutually

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exclusive.

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He continues according to the Quran,

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I did not say anything to them. And

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if you look at this from a standpoint

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of syntactical exegesis,

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you have and then you have This is

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called an affirmation

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after a negation.

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And this is one of the strongest ways

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to make a statement in Arabic. For example,

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we all know how to say

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Allah

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There is no God except Allah

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or as Allah

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tells us in the Quran

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We did not send you except

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as a mercy to all the worlds. So,

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Isa according to the Quran here is saying

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to Allah Subhanahu wa ta'ala, I did not

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say anything to them except what you ordered

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me to say.

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I told them to worship Allah

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my Lord and your Lord. Now if you

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look at the high priestly prayer

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of Isa alaihis salam, going back to the

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gospel of John, again, this is the gospel

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that oftentimes is quoted to prove for a

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lot of Christians that Isa alaihis salam is

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God. In John 17:3,

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I call a theological anchor of the gospel

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of John. This is what Isa

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is reported to have said according to the

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original Greek. He

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says This is eternal life.

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This is eternal life. This is salvation. He's

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going to tell you

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That they might know you.

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Who is he speaking to? According to John

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17:1, he's talking to

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He's talking to the father, to the He's

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talking to Allah Subhanahu wa ta'ala.

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Eternal life is to know you

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in the Greek, which means

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the only one who is God. The one

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and only

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true God.

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Theon, monon and Theon, you put them together,

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you get the word monotheism.

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He's teaching us tawhid

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that the father, the Rab, Allah subhanahu wa

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ta'ala is the only one who is truly

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God.

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And

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and to know the one whom you sent,

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Jesus Christ.

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This is eternal life, to know God, the

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only true God,

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that Allah Subhanahu Wa Ta'ala is the only

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true God and also to know the one

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sent by Allah

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and that is Isa alaihis salam.

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Why to know?

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Comes from the word or

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gnosis.

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If you knew Allah and his messenger, if

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you knew them well, then you would have

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agape,

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unconditional love for them. You would have Mahaba

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as the Quran says, Allah subhanahu wa ta'ala

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says

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that I did not create jinn and ins

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except to worship. Ibn Abbas said, Illa liabudun

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can be understood as illa liya'rifun

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except to know me,

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to know, have ma'arifah, to have knowledge of

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God, gnosis of God. And if we had

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gnosis of God,

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then we would necessarily

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have Mahaba of Allah Subhanahu

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Wa Ta'ala. And that this is the essence

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of the Abrahamic tradition, the oneness of God

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and the love of God and humanity. In

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Mark chapter 12 verse 28 to 31, a

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Jewish lawyer comes there, Isa alaih salam, according

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to Mark, the earliest of the synoptic gospels.

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And he says to him,

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in the greek language,

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according to the greek of the gospel of

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Mark. He says to him, master,

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Rabani,

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Rabbi,

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what is the greatest of the commandments?

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Listen to the response of Esai alaihis salam.

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He quotes from the Torah. He says in

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Hebrew,

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Hear, O Israel, the Lord our God, the

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Lord

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is 1.

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He says 1, God is 1 and

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1 means 1.

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Allah

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is Wahid and Ahad. He is 1 and

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he's 1 and only he is unique. This

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is the response of Isa alaihis salam to

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this Jewish lawyer. He continues, he

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says, And here in Hebrew, we have a

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perfect

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with conjunctive vav, which the meaning is future.

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And there's an element of the imperative.

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And you will love, you must love the

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Lord thy God with all of thy heart,

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soul and strength, and love your neighbor as

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yourself. This is the essence of the Abrahamic

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teaching. The prophet Muhammad sallallahu alaihi wasallam is

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reported to have said,

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none of you will enter paradise until you

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truly believe

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and none of you will truly believe until

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you love one another. Shall I tell you

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of something that will increase your love? And

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they said yes. He said, Afshus Salaam Abaynikum,

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spread peace amongst yourselves. Now let's look at

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one of these so called proof texts that

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are often used by Trinitarian Christians

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to prove that Isa alaihis salaam

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is God. John 1:1,

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the very first verse of the prologue of

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the gospel of John. This is how it's

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translated usually by Christians. In the beginning was

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the word and the word was with God

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and the word was God.

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Why is this important to analyze from the

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standpoint of syntactical exegesis?

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It's because the Quran seems to have an

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intertextual

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relationship

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with this prologue. For example, Allah Subhanahu Wa

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Ta'ala, he refers to Isa alaihis salam is

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kalimatum

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minhu, a word from him. The only other

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text that mentions Jesus as being a word

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of God is the prologue of John's gospel.

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Allah Subhanahu Wa Ta'ala also says about Yahya

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alayhis salam musaddikam

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bi kali matimin Allah that he bears witness

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concerning a word of God. And there's almost

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the exact same sentiment or statement in the

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prologue of John's gospel. There's an intertextual relationship

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between the prologue of John and the Quran.

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So how do we understand this if it

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says that Jesus was God and the word

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was God? Well, let's look at the original

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Greek. The Greek says

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It doesn't say in the beginning, there's no

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definite article before beginning. It says, in a

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beginning

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was the word, a relative beginning, not the

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absolute beginning, a relative beginning. The beginning of

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creation was the word. And what is the

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word? The

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according to the rest of the prologue,

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the light of the Messiah, the ruh, the

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soul of the Messiah. In other words, one

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of the first entities

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that God created

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was the light or the soul, the ru

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of the Messiah.

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And the word was with God. How do

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we understand that? The light of the Messiah,

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the soul of the Messiah was with God

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in a state of mystical union with God.

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We were all there, yom alast, when Allah

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subhanahu wa ta'ala asked us, alastubi rabbikum

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qalu balaam I not your Lord? We said

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yes. Imam Abu Qasim al Junaid, he says,

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this is the goal of this life to

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get back to yom alast

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and mystical union, al jama'

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what is called theosis in Eastern Orthodoxy

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is remembering that great day in which Allah

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in which we were united with Allah

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a dualistic

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annihilation in God, where the

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wahdaniyah

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and ahadiyah and fardaniyah, the oneness, the uniqueness

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and the individuality of Allah subhanahu wa ta'ala

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is always upheld.

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It's not a henosis.

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It's not

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it's not a merging of our essence with

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the essence of Allah subhanahu wa ta'ala because

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nothing is ontologically equal with Allah Subhanahu wa

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ta'ala. So this is mystical union that is

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dualistic and the word was with God. And

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then it says, Christians usually translate this last

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part, and the word was God. However, the

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Greek says,

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There's no definite article here before the word

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God, like we had in the previous statement.

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That the word was with the

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God, God with a capital g. So what

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does it mean? And the word was a

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God? Well, according to Daniel Wallace, in his

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Greek beyond the basics, he says that pre

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verbal indefinite nouns

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are more often attributive

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than substantive in the New Testament.

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So what does it mean? A god, that's

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pre verbal. It means

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the word was theistic, it was godly, it

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was holy, it was sanctified,

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it was lordly.

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You see in Exodus chapter 7 verse 1,

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God tells Moses, I will send you as

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Elohim,

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as God unto pharaoh and Aaron as your

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navi.

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Does it mean that Moses is God? No,

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it means Moses speaks with the authority of

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God. Moses is sanctified, Moses is godly,

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Moses is holy.

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In fact, Isa alaihis salam is quoted in

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the Quran as

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saying in surah al imran.

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And

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Imam al Suiti says there's an alif and

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a noon there for extra emphasis. What does

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mean? Be lordly,

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be godly or as the prophet Muhammad sallallahu

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alaihi wa sallam said and there's some weakness

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in the tradition,

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Adorn yourself

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with the character of Allah Subhanahu Wa Ta'ala.

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Ibn Ajeeba in his commentary on the 99

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names of Allah Subhanahu wa ta'ala,

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he says there are three elements to all

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of the names of Allah. For example, the

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name malik means owner which is related etymologically

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to malik which means king. He says there's

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taaaluk of this name. Taaaluk means that we

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have some sort of connection to this name.

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How do we connect to the name Malik

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that Allah is the owner? Is that we

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realized that we are his servants. This is

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our tahluk.

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Then the second element is called tahluk.

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We assimilate something of this name. How do

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we assimilate

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malik? Well, just as Allah subhanahu wa ta'ala

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is the owner of everything and the king

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and master of everything, we need to know

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how to master

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our lower selves.

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We become the king of our lower selves.

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And then the third element is to haqquk,

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to taste or experience the realities, become annihilated

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in God's love and character so that Allah

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subhanahu wa ta'ala is the only object of

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our love and concern. We become sanctified agents

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of Allah subhanahu wa ta'ala upon the earth.

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At this point, we're gonna we're gonna stop

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this session. InshaAllah Ta'ala, we're gonna continue next

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time,

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looking at more ayat from the Quran, verses

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from the bible. May Allah

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subhanahu wa ta'ala increase us in knowledge.

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Alayhi alayhi alayhi wa sallam, peace be upon

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both of them. We've been talking about ayah

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number

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116 of surah al Ma'ida in which Allah

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subhanahu wa ta'ala will ask Isa alayhi salam

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point blank on the Yomul Qiyama, did you

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ever say that your God or your mother

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is God other than Allah

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And the response of Isa alaihis salam as

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we said,

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never will it be for me to say

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what I had no right to say. In

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fact, never does Isa alaihis salam, even according

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to any of the 4

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canonical gospels in the New Testament, never does

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he say I am God

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or worship me. It simply does not exist.

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Now interestingly, there's a verse in the Quran,

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chapter 3

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verse 79, al imran ayah number 79. Allah

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subhanahu wa ta'ala says,

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Maqanali basharin,

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It is impossible

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for a human being to whom Allah

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gave the revelation

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and wisdom and prophecy,

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then to say to the people,

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be

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my worshipers, worship me, be my

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slaves, other than Allah

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Now, Imam al Suyuti gives us the sababun

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nuzul of this ayah. He says,

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This was revealed from Allah subhanahu wa ta'ala

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when the Christians of Najran came and they

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said

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that Isa alaihis salam ordered us to take

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him as a

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lord. And even some of the Muslims requested

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let's make sajdah to him. This eye was

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revealed.

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Now in the new testament,

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Isa alaihis salam, Jesus peace be upon him,

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according to the new testament quite often quotes

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the Torah. It is his most cogent argument.

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Allah subhanahu wa ta'ala tells us, musaddiqalimabayna

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yadayamina Torah quoting Isa alaihis salam That Isa

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alaihis salam said, I confirm the Torah which

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is with me. That there's a clear common

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Abrahamic

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trajectory of theology that we see with Musa

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alayhi salam, with Isa alayhi salam, and the

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prophet sallallahu alayhi salam. For example, in Matthew

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chapter 9 verse 13,

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Isa alayhi wasallam quotes Hosea

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66 from the old testament. He says,

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I require mercy,

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not sacrifice.

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And

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the knowledge of God more than burnt offerings.

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It's about mercy and knowledge not sacrifice and

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burnt offerings.

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In Luke chapter,

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4, Isa

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will quote from Deuteronomy

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chapter 10 verse 20,

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when he's being tempted by Satan according to

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the gospel of Luke, and he says to

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Satan

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Very interesting. Hebrew is not an inflected language.

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There's no muharab like we have in Arabic,

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sometimes we

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say,

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Right? It's inflected

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whether it's a nominative or accusative or genitive,

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But biblical Hebrew is no longer inflected. Maybe

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ancient paleo Hebrew was according to many linguists

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but biblical Hebrew isn't. So it's very clear

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the word order is very important. You have

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verb, you have subject and object. But here

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in Deuteronomy 10:30

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quoted by Jesus in Luke chapter 4,

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the direct object is brought to the very

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beginning of the sentence

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because there is a direct object marker in

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Hebrew. What's the effect of bringing the the

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direct object to the beginning of a sentence?

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This it's

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called. It denotes emphasis

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and exclusivity.

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For example, in Al Fatiha,

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we don't say

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We worship you and we ask you for

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help. We say

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We bring the direct object forward which denotes

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exclusivity

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and emphasis.

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So here, Isa alaihis salam is saying,

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eth Adonai,

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the Lord your God only will you fear,

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oh to and him alone,

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you will worship

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only the lord your god.

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Now, Luke translates this verse into Greek as

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that you must revere the Lord your God.

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Definite

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article on God again.

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Tantheon means the God.

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Isa

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is never called theos, God with a definite

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article anywhere in the new testament.

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And then he says,

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and to him alone will you render worship.

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Now,

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in koine Greek, in New Testament Greek, there

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are two words for worship used in the

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New Testament.

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The first word is

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which is a compound word that comes from

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the preposition pros which means toward and the

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word

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which means a dog.

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What do dogs do when they see their

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masters?

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They kiss their hands.

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So in the new testament says that the

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disciples worshiped Jesus,

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usually how Christians will translate, proskuneo,

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when the disciples quote unquote worshipped Jesus, like

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the King James version says that, The Greek

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is which means they revered him, they respected

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him, they kissed his hand. In John chapter

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9, Jesus heals a blind man. He sees

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him in the temple of Solomon later. And

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this man thanks Jesus and the Greek says,

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he made

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towards him. Are we really to believe that

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a Jewish man inside the temple of Solomon

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is worshiping Jesus as God and committing idolatry?

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No.

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In fact, in the bible the same verb

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is used to show respect to Jewish high

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priests

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and angels. They are not being worshiped as

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God. The Hebrew Avad,

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the verb Avad, the cognate is abada you

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abudu, is translated as latreo in Greek. And

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this is the verb

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for worship that is only due to God.

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It is never used

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of Isa

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in the New Testament. In fact, Christ himself

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says in Luke chapter 4 verse 8,

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and him alone, meaning God,

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will you render worship

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as God? Because he is the only God.

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Allah

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Now, the first words of Isa alaihi wasalam

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according to the Quran are interesting. He says,

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It's the great quranic I am statement, Right?

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There's I am statements in the gospel of

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John that Christians qualify as claims of deity

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by Isa alaihis salam. I am the way,

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the truth and the life. Before Abraham was,

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I am. I am the good shepherd, so

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on and so forth. Here we have an

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I am statement in the Quran,

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inni, a combination of inna harfatokid,

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the emphatic particle

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and ana,

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the independent pronoun meaning I or I am.

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Indeed, I am the servant of God.

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He has given me revelation and has made

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me a prophet.

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And made me blessed wheresoever I am.

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And has commanded me to prayer and charity

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as long as I live.

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Also, we have the beautiful ayah in surah

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al imran, ayah number 51,

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quoting Isa alaihis salam.

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Allah,

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not Inna Rabi Allah, Inna Allah

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Right? The expression of exaltation

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is accusative because it follows, indeed

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Allah

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is my Lord

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and your Lord. Worship him, fi'il amr, present

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active imperative.

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Worship him. This is a straight path. This

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is eternal life.

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Now the end

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of the gospel of, John, at the end

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of the prologue,

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the author says,

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that no one has ever seen God.

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Usually translated by,

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Christians

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as the only begotten son. But mano ganes

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from mono ingenis means the one of a

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kind. Literally what it means. The one of

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a kind, the unique huias,

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son. When you see it, as we said

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before in previous sessions, when you see the

00:35:45 --> 00:35:47

word father in the new testament, think

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God imminent. The one who guides us in

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stages.

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God's imminence. Not literally God is our father.

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Think Lord. When you see the word

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in the new testament, don't think literal son.

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Think abd, think a servant, a special and

00:36:01 --> 00:36:02

sanctified

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servant. In fact, Paul says in Romans chapter

00:36:05 --> 00:36:08

8 verse 14, he says, for as many

00:36:08 --> 00:36:10

as are led by the spirit of God,

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for as many as are led by the

00:36:12 --> 00:36:15

spirit of God, the penuma of God, meaning

00:36:15 --> 00:36:15

they're guided.

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These are the huioiteeu,

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these are the sons of God.

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Therefore we can call God, Paul says, Abba,

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we can call him father.

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Why? It's figurative, it's majaz, it's an honorific

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title.

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In the new testament, the son of God

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is called an idafa

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of

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takrim

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and tashrif, the annexation of,

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of,

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of honor and of majesty. Like we say,

00:36:44 --> 00:36:46

the Kaaba is baitullah. We don't mean to

00:36:46 --> 00:36:48

say literally that God resides

00:36:48 --> 00:36:51

in a house, no. Allah subhanahu wa ta'ala

00:36:51 --> 00:36:53

is transcendent of space time and materiality

00:36:53 --> 00:36:56

but to show tashrif and takreem,

00:36:56 --> 00:36:57

to show

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honor and majesty to the Kaaba, it's called

00:37:00 --> 00:37:00

baitullah.

00:37:01 --> 00:37:01

Allah

00:37:02 --> 00:37:04

says in the Quran, they say God has

00:37:04 --> 00:37:05

begotten children.

00:37:09 --> 00:37:11

Rather they are servants

00:37:11 --> 00:37:12

raised to honor.

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Raised to honor. So this is how we

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should understand manogenes hoyas. So let's look at

00:37:17 --> 00:37:19

that verse again. No one has at any

00:37:19 --> 00:37:20

time seen God.

00:37:21 --> 00:37:23

People saw Jesus therefore he cannot be God.

00:37:23 --> 00:37:26

The simple deductive argument. But

00:37:26 --> 00:37:27

the

00:37:27 --> 00:37:30

the one of a kind special servant of

00:37:30 --> 00:37:30

God,

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who is in the bosom of the father,

00:37:36 --> 00:37:37

who is on the chest of the father,

00:37:37 --> 00:37:39

who is in the heart of the father.

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What does that mean? Who is beloved of

00:37:41 --> 00:37:43

the father, beloved of the rabb, Isa alaihis

00:37:43 --> 00:37:45

salam is beloved to Allah subhanahu wa ta'ala,

00:37:46 --> 00:37:46

ekinas

00:37:47 --> 00:37:47

exegesato.

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That one meaning Jesus,

00:37:50 --> 00:37:52

exegetes literally

00:37:52 --> 00:37:52

exegetes

00:37:53 --> 00:37:56

the father, explains the father, reveals the father,

00:37:56 --> 00:37:59

gives commentary about the rub, about Allah subhanahu

00:37:59 --> 00:38:01

wa ta'ala. He's not the God. He's not

00:38:01 --> 00:38:05

Khan Thean. He reveals and explains and explicates

00:38:06 --> 00:38:06

the father.

00:38:07 --> 00:38:09

Christ is the perfect reflection of God on

00:38:09 --> 00:38:10

earth,

00:38:10 --> 00:38:13

the perfected and sanctified agent of God who

00:38:13 --> 00:38:16

reflects God's attributes at a human level. Just

00:38:16 --> 00:38:18

as the moon reflects the sun, the prophets

00:38:18 --> 00:38:21

reflect the attributes of Allah subhanahu wa ta'ala

00:38:21 --> 00:38:23

at a non absolute and human level.

00:38:24 --> 00:38:25

This is what Jesus meant when he said

00:38:25 --> 00:38:27

in John chapter 10 verse 30,

00:38:31 --> 00:38:33

I and the father are

00:38:33 --> 00:38:35

1. 1 on the level of obedience,

00:38:35 --> 00:38:36

disobedience,

00:38:37 --> 00:38:38

will, intention,

00:38:38 --> 00:38:40

born out of love, not one on the

00:38:40 --> 00:38:41

level of ontology.

00:38:42 --> 00:38:44

We find this type of oneness in the

00:38:44 --> 00:38:47

Quran between Allah subhanahu wa ta'ala and our

00:38:47 --> 00:38:49

master Muhammad sallallahu alaihi wasallam as well. Allah

00:38:49 --> 00:38:51

subhanahu wa ta'ala says in Surah Al Nisa

00:38:52 --> 00:38:53

Ayah number 80,

00:38:55 --> 00:38:58

Whoever obeys the messenger is obeying Allah, not

00:38:58 --> 00:39:01

because the messenger is essentially or ontologically

00:39:01 --> 00:39:02

Allah.

00:39:02 --> 00:39:05

No. Because the obedience of the messenger

00:39:05 --> 00:39:08

is equal, is 1 with the obedience of

00:39:08 --> 00:39:08

Allah

00:39:09 --> 00:39:11

If you obey the messenger, it is as

00:39:11 --> 00:39:13

if you are obeying Allah Subhanahu Wa Ta'ala.

00:39:13 --> 00:39:16

In Suratul Anfal, Allah Subhanahu Wa Ta'ala says,

00:39:16 --> 00:39:16

wamarametaivramayta

00:39:18 --> 00:39:19

walakinna Allaharama.

00:39:20 --> 00:39:22

Allah Subhanahu Wa Ta'ala says that you did

00:39:22 --> 00:39:25

not throw when you threw, Allah threw. Are

00:39:25 --> 00:39:27

we to believe that Allah Subhanahu Wa Ta'ala

00:39:27 --> 00:39:29

incarnated into the prophet

00:39:30 --> 00:39:32

and threw some stones? No. What does it

00:39:32 --> 00:39:34

mean? It means that all of the actions

00:39:34 --> 00:39:35

of the prophet

00:39:35 --> 00:39:37

are guided by Allah

00:39:38 --> 00:39:40

As Imam Abu Qasim al Junaid said about

00:39:40 --> 00:39:43

the famous hadith Qudsi, my servant does not

00:39:43 --> 00:39:45

draw close unto me with anything more beloved

00:39:46 --> 00:39:48

than his fara'id, than his obligations.

00:39:48 --> 00:39:49

Walayazalu

00:39:49 --> 00:39:52

abdiya tfarabu ilayabin Nawafil and continues to draw

00:39:52 --> 00:39:54

near unto me with his Nawafil

00:39:54 --> 00:39:55

hatahuhibba

00:39:55 --> 00:39:57

until I love him, then I become the

00:39:57 --> 00:39:59

eye by which he sees and the hand

00:39:59 --> 00:40:01

by which he holds and the foot by

00:40:01 --> 00:40:02

which he walks. And if you were to

00:40:02 --> 00:40:04

ask anything from me, I shall surely give

00:40:04 --> 00:40:06

it to him. Are we to believe that

00:40:07 --> 00:40:10

Allah literally becomes our eye and our hand

00:40:10 --> 00:40:12

and our foot? No. What does it mean?

00:40:12 --> 00:40:14

It means that all of our limbs become

00:40:14 --> 00:40:16

guided by Allah subhanahu wa ta'ala. That we

00:40:16 --> 00:40:20

actualize our Islam. That we become sanctified agents

00:40:20 --> 00:40:22

of Allah subhanahu wa ta'ala.

00:40:22 --> 00:40:26

Another example from Surah Tawbah, Allah says,

00:40:32 --> 00:40:35

Allah and his messenger, 2 subjects mentioned. It

00:40:35 --> 00:40:38

is more befitting that you all please him,

00:40:39 --> 00:40:41

who at the end. The pronoun is 3rd

00:40:41 --> 00:40:44

masculine singular, not the dual even though there

00:40:44 --> 00:40:46

are 2 subjects. So what's happening here? Is

00:40:46 --> 00:40:49

this a grammatical error? Imam Al Khortoubhi says

00:40:49 --> 00:40:52

no, it's singular because Allah subhanahu wa ta'ala

00:40:52 --> 00:40:52

wants to

00:40:53 --> 00:40:54

demonstrate

00:40:54 --> 00:40:55

an intimate relationship

00:40:56 --> 00:40:59

between himself and the prophet sallallahu alaihi wasallam

00:40:59 --> 00:41:01

in the sense that if you please the

00:41:01 --> 00:41:03

prophet sallallahu alaihi wasallam, then you are automatically

00:41:03 --> 00:41:06

pleasing Allah subhanahu wa ta'ala. 1 on the

00:41:06 --> 00:41:07

level of obedience,

00:41:08 --> 00:41:08

disobedience,

00:41:09 --> 00:41:10

will and intention

00:41:10 --> 00:41:12

born out of love, not one ontologically.

00:41:13 --> 00:41:16

That is impossible. That's not the Abrahamic tradition.

00:41:16 --> 00:41:17

So in this sense,

00:41:18 --> 00:41:20

to use Johannine language, the language of the

00:41:20 --> 00:41:22

gospel of John, the prophet is in the

00:41:22 --> 00:41:24

bosom of God. He is in the heart

00:41:24 --> 00:41:26

of God. He's in the eye of God

00:41:26 --> 00:41:27

as Allah says in the Quran.

00:41:32 --> 00:41:33

So be patient as to the coming of

00:41:33 --> 00:41:36

the command of thy Lord for verily you

00:41:36 --> 00:41:39

are in our eyes. What does that mean?

00:41:39 --> 00:41:42

In layman's terms, it means relax, I love

00:41:42 --> 00:41:42

you.

00:41:43 --> 00:41:44

Relax,

00:41:44 --> 00:41:46

I love you. That's what it means.

00:41:48 --> 00:41:50

And the proof that Isa alaihis salam meant

00:41:50 --> 00:41:51

this oneness

00:41:51 --> 00:41:52

relationally

00:41:52 --> 00:41:54

and not literally is that in his high

00:41:54 --> 00:41:58

priestly prayer in John 17 verse 21, listen

00:41:58 --> 00:41:59

to what he says about the disciples.

00:42:00 --> 00:42:02

So that all might be 1 just as

00:42:02 --> 00:42:04

you father are in me and I in

00:42:04 --> 00:42:07

you that they also may be 1

00:42:07 --> 00:42:08

in us.

00:42:09 --> 00:42:10

So what does that mean? If it's a

00:42:10 --> 00:42:12

oneness, ontological oneness,

00:42:12 --> 00:42:15

an essential oneness, that they're the same

00:42:15 --> 00:42:18

substance or co substantial, is Jesus praying that

00:42:18 --> 00:42:20

the disciples also become gods?

00:42:20 --> 00:42:23

No. He's praying for their mystical union with

00:42:23 --> 00:42:26

God. That they're united in God in love.

00:42:26 --> 00:42:29

That there's a there's a unity of will

00:42:29 --> 00:42:31

and intention born out of love.

00:42:31 --> 00:42:33

Jesus tells Mary the Magdalene

00:42:34 --> 00:42:36

in John 20 17. He

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says,

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I am going to ascend to my father

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and your father. Remember we said when you

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hear the word father, think I'm

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going to ascend unto my and your

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And my God and your God. I'm going

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to ascend unto my father and your father.

00:43:03 --> 00:43:05

My God and your God. Jesus says he

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has a God.

00:43:06 --> 00:43:08

There is a God of Jesus. Who is

00:43:08 --> 00:43:10

this God of Jesus? If Jesus has a

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God, how can he be God? Are there

00:43:12 --> 00:43:16

2 Gods? There's one God. The God is

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Allah In Mark 10/18,

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a scribe comes to Christ and he says

00:43:21 --> 00:43:23

according to the Greek,

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good master.

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What must I do to gain eternal life?

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Point blank question. How do I go to

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heaven? Listen to the response of Jesus. He

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says,

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In Greek here, Greek is highly inflected.

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Mark brings the direct object forward.

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Why does he do that?

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To emphasize

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the direct object.

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Why me are you calling good?

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Conventional translations don't do justice.

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They say, why are you calling me good?

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No. The object is brought forward. Why me?

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He's almost offended. Why me are you calling

00:44:02 --> 00:44:05

good? No one is good but one and

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that is God.

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Follow the commandments, he says. The mitzvot and

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you shall enter the life. So I want

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to end this session

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by reading the first few

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of the 10 commandments that deal with theology.

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This is what Jesus

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is telling us to follow.

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He says follow the commandments.

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Let's read a couple and then we'll end

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the session inshallah ta'ala. The first few commandments

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deal with theology.

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Exodus chapter 20 verses 1 to 5.

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It says,

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I am the Lord your God, the one

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who brought you out from the house of

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Egypt, from the house of bondage.

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Thou shalt have no other gods

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before me.

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Thou shalt not make the likeness of anything,

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of anything in the heavens above,

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or from the earth below

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or anything from the seas beneath the earth.

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Lo tishtach vey la valo

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valo tavdaim.

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You shall not bow down to them

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nor worship them.

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Because I am the Lord

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your God. This is the theology of Musa

00:45:35 --> 00:45:38

alaihi salam. This is the theology that's confirmed

00:45:38 --> 00:45:40

by Isa alaihi salam. And this is the

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theology that is confirmed in the Quran by

00:45:42 --> 00:45:44

the teachings of the prophet Muhammad sallallahu alaihi

00:45:44 --> 00:45:46

wa sallam. May Allah

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subhanahu wa ta'ala increase us in knowledge. We'll

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pick this up again in the next session.

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In this session, we're going to look at

00:45:59 --> 00:46:00

theological

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consistency of normative Christian theology as relates

00:46:03 --> 00:46:05

to Isa alaihi salaam. In other words, normative

00:46:05 --> 00:46:06

Christology

00:46:06 --> 00:46:08

in the Christian faith. As we said in

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the last session,

00:46:10 --> 00:46:11

2 of the most iconic

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and theologically foundational statements of Isa alaihis salam

00:46:15 --> 00:46:16

are in Surat Maryam

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chapter 19 verse 30.

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That I am indeed the servant of Allah.

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And chapter 3 verse 51.

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Indeed Allah is my Lord and your Lord.

00:46:30 --> 00:46:32

Worship him, this is the straight path.

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Now I want to preface my comments by

00:46:34 --> 00:46:36

saying Muslim hermeneutics of the bible,

00:46:36 --> 00:46:39

can be a sensitive topic. As a Muslim

00:46:39 --> 00:46:42

biblicist myself, I proposed in my dissertation, for

00:46:42 --> 00:46:43

example, that our approach

00:46:43 --> 00:46:45

to the biblical text must be on the

00:46:45 --> 00:46:46

same level as the great

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masters of religion of the past. For example,

00:46:49 --> 00:46:52

Abu Rayhan al Biruni or Imam al Shahrastani

00:46:52 --> 00:46:55

who's usually considered to be the wadir, the

00:46:55 --> 00:46:58

founder of this discipline known as Al Milalwan

00:46:58 --> 00:47:00

Nihal, nations and creeds or comparative theology.

00:47:01 --> 00:47:04

Also Abu Hamid Al Ghazali in Israd, his,

00:47:05 --> 00:47:07

his refutation of Christian theology. Ibn Taymiyyah in

00:47:07 --> 00:47:11

Israd. Ibn Umar al Biqa'i in his dissertation

00:47:11 --> 00:47:11

in his,

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Deiteseran,

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his gospel harmony of the 4 gospels.

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Our approach must be what I call polymarenic.

00:47:18 --> 00:47:20

It's a combination of the word,

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polemic.

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The the Greek word polemicos

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means warlike. This is when the text of

00:47:26 --> 00:47:27

the bible and Christianity

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is attacked with faulty knowledge.

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And the other side of that you have

00:47:32 --> 00:47:34

the heretic approach from the Greek word ereni.

00:47:35 --> 00:47:38

Now people who who engage in Christian with

00:47:38 --> 00:47:39

Christianity from a Muslim perspective,

00:47:40 --> 00:47:41

from an heretical approach,

00:47:42 --> 00:47:44

they approach the text and say, well, these

00:47:44 --> 00:47:46

are saying basically the same things in Islam

00:47:46 --> 00:47:48

and Christianity are no different. They tend to

00:47:48 --> 00:47:49

secret syncretize

00:47:50 --> 00:47:52

religions, Tawhid and Trinity as,

00:47:53 --> 00:47:56

as explicated by Abu Jafar Tawawi and Saint

00:47:56 --> 00:47:58

Augustine are really two sides of the same

00:47:58 --> 00:48:01

coin. And obviously, that's not being true to

00:48:01 --> 00:48:03

the traditions. Definitely, there are 2 different religions,

00:48:03 --> 00:48:04

2 different theologies.

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But to be polymeric

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means to be critical

00:48:08 --> 00:48:09

but also reflects

00:48:10 --> 00:48:10

rigorous

00:48:10 --> 00:48:11

academic

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sophistication.

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So I speak now in the capacity of

00:48:14 --> 00:48:17

an academic. I mean no disrespect to anyone,

00:48:17 --> 00:48:18

but we are going to be a bit

00:48:18 --> 00:48:19

critical,

00:48:19 --> 00:48:20

theological

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consistency.

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Isa is reported to have said in the

00:48:24 --> 00:48:24

Quran,

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that I confirm the Torah which is with

00:48:30 --> 00:48:32

me, which is before me.

00:48:32 --> 00:48:33

Now the Nicene Creed

00:48:34 --> 00:48:35

was called by Constantine

00:48:35 --> 00:48:37

or the Council of Nicaea, I should say,

00:48:37 --> 00:48:40

was called by Constantine, the first Christian emperor,

00:48:40 --> 00:48:43

to solve or to resolve the Arian controversy

00:48:44 --> 00:48:44

of 325

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of the common era. So this is the

00:48:47 --> 00:48:49

creedal exposition of the faith by the 318

00:48:50 --> 00:48:52

bishops. So I'm just gonna quickly go through

00:48:52 --> 00:48:53

the Nicene Creed.

00:48:53 --> 00:48:55

Not all of it, but most of it,

00:48:55 --> 00:48:56

do a loose translation,

00:48:57 --> 00:48:59

from the original Greek just to get give

00:48:59 --> 00:49:01

you a feel of Orthodox Christian,

00:49:02 --> 00:49:02

Christology,

00:49:03 --> 00:49:04

belief about Jesus.

00:49:05 --> 00:49:07

It says, we believe in one God, the

00:49:07 --> 00:49:07

father,

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the creator of all things seen and unseen.

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And we also believe in 1 Kurian, which

00:49:24 --> 00:49:27

they translate as Lord, the son of God,

00:49:28 --> 00:49:30

begotten from the father, uniquely

00:49:30 --> 00:49:33

from the same essence as the father, the

00:49:33 --> 00:49:34

same usios.

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Then it says,

00:49:37 --> 00:49:38

God from God,

00:49:40 --> 00:49:41

light from light,

00:49:45 --> 00:49:47

true God from true God, which is interesting

00:49:47 --> 00:49:50

because Jesus in 17 17 3 of John,

00:49:50 --> 00:49:53

as we stated, says that the father is

00:49:56 --> 00:49:58

that the father is the only true god.

00:49:58 --> 00:50:00

He goes on to say the famous statement,

00:50:04 --> 00:50:05

begotten not made,

00:50:05 --> 00:50:07

begotten not created,

00:50:07 --> 00:50:08

hamausyan

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tu patri,

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co substantial

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of the same essence

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with the father,

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Through whom all things were made

00:50:19 --> 00:50:21

and in, in the heavens and the earth,

00:50:22 --> 00:50:24

and for the sake of us, men or

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human beings, and for the sake of our

00:50:26 --> 00:50:27

salvation

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came down and sarco senta

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assumed flesh and anthropocenta

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and became a man and suffered and was

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resurrected

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on the 3rd day. So that's the gist

00:50:38 --> 00:50:40

of the Nicene Creed. So here's what we

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know about Trinitarian

00:50:42 --> 00:50:43

Christianity,

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what it teaches. Number 1, God became a

00:50:47 --> 00:50:47

man.

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Right? Saint Augustine said,

00:50:51 --> 00:50:55

deus homo, that God became a man. Augustine

00:50:55 --> 00:50:56

said, deus

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incarnatus,

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God became incarnated, the incarnated God, literally

00:51:02 --> 00:51:02

became enfleshed.

00:51:03 --> 00:51:06

So god became a man. Number 2, god

00:51:06 --> 00:51:09

sacrificed his son who was innocent and sinless.

00:51:09 --> 00:51:10

In fact,

00:51:11 --> 00:51:13

technically, since the father and son are the

00:51:13 --> 00:51:14

same,

00:51:15 --> 00:51:15

ontologically,

00:51:16 --> 00:51:18

god actually committed according to this belief an

00:51:18 --> 00:51:20

act of self immolation.

00:51:20 --> 00:51:21

Nonetheless,

00:51:21 --> 00:51:23

the son was killed and he was innocent.

00:51:24 --> 00:51:26

Number 3, the son, meaning Jesus,

00:51:26 --> 00:51:27

died to atone

00:51:28 --> 00:51:30

for our sins. He died for our sins.

00:51:31 --> 00:51:33

Number 4, he died by being hanged on

00:51:33 --> 00:51:35

a tree. He was crucified.

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Number 5, he is commemorated by partaking of

00:51:39 --> 00:51:41

his blood. It's called the Eucharist. It's a

00:51:41 --> 00:51:44

sacrament in all churches, the Catholic, the protestant

00:51:44 --> 00:51:48

and Eastern Orthodox. The Catholics believe the doctrine

00:51:48 --> 00:51:49

known as transubstantiation

00:51:50 --> 00:51:53

in which they believe that at mass, the

00:51:53 --> 00:51:55

Holy Spirit descends and transforms

00:51:55 --> 00:51:56

the essence,

00:51:57 --> 00:51:58

the essence of the bread and the wine

00:51:58 --> 00:52:01

into the literal flesh and blood of Jesus

00:52:01 --> 00:52:02

while the accidents

00:52:02 --> 00:52:04

of the bread and the wine remain the

00:52:04 --> 00:52:05

same.

00:52:06 --> 00:52:09

Now, okay, the Torah says Let's look at

00:52:09 --> 00:52:11

the Torah. And Maimonides, the great product of

00:52:11 --> 00:52:14

Muslim Spain, the great Jewish philosopher and theologian,

00:52:15 --> 00:52:17

said that the Torah, the first five books

00:52:17 --> 00:52:19

of Moses represents the ipsisima

00:52:20 --> 00:52:22

verba, the very words of God,

00:52:22 --> 00:52:24

similar to our concept of the Quran. And

00:52:24 --> 00:52:26

the rest of the Old Testament, the nabiim

00:52:26 --> 00:52:27

and the ketubim,

00:52:27 --> 00:52:29

the prophets and the writings, is the very

00:52:29 --> 00:52:31

voice of God inspired,

00:52:32 --> 00:52:33

to prophets

00:52:33 --> 00:52:35

and sages and historians.

00:52:35 --> 00:52:37

So the Torah, the first five books, the

00:52:37 --> 00:52:39

Pentateuch for Maimonides,

00:52:40 --> 00:52:42

has the highest level of revelation.

00:52:43 --> 00:52:44

Numbers 23/19

00:52:44 --> 00:52:45

says,

00:52:45 --> 00:52:46

lo ishael,

00:52:47 --> 00:52:48

is very clear,

00:52:48 --> 00:52:50

God is not a man.

00:52:51 --> 00:52:53

God is not a man. In Hosea 119,

00:52:54 --> 00:52:55

if you go to the prophets,

00:52:55 --> 00:52:56

he says,

00:52:59 --> 00:53:02

Ki in Hebrew is the equivalent of

00:53:02 --> 00:53:02

the harfatokid,

00:53:03 --> 00:53:06

the emphatic particle in Arabic. Indeed, I am

00:53:06 --> 00:53:09

God and not a man, meaning they're mutually

00:53:09 --> 00:53:10

exclusive.

00:53:11 --> 00:53:13

Jesus Christ, peace be upon him, according to

00:53:13 --> 00:53:15

John chapter 4 verse 24,

00:53:16 --> 00:53:16

he says,

00:53:19 --> 00:53:21

the God is spirit. God is a spiritual

00:53:21 --> 00:53:23

being. He transcends

00:53:24 --> 00:53:25

space time and materiality.

00:53:27 --> 00:53:30

There's nothing like the likes of God whatsoever.

00:53:30 --> 00:53:33

Maimonides says in point number 3 of his

00:53:33 --> 00:53:33

principles

00:53:34 --> 00:53:35

of Jewish emunah,

00:53:35 --> 00:53:38

of Jewish iman, point number 3 of 13,

00:53:38 --> 00:53:39

he says,

00:53:41 --> 00:53:43

he is not, goof in hebrew means jissum,

00:53:44 --> 00:53:44

a corpus,

00:53:45 --> 00:53:47

a soma, a body. He is not a

00:53:47 --> 00:53:50

body meaning Allah subhanahu wa ta'ala.

00:53:53 --> 00:53:55

And there is not to him the likeness

00:53:55 --> 00:53:56

of anything.

00:53:56 --> 00:53:58

So to say that God became a man

00:53:58 --> 00:53:59

is not theologically

00:54:00 --> 00:54:01

consistent.

00:54:02 --> 00:54:05

Okay. Point number 2, in Exodus chapter 20

00:54:05 --> 00:54:06

verse 13,

00:54:06 --> 00:54:07

we read,

00:54:09 --> 00:54:12

which usually is translated thou shalt not kill,

00:54:12 --> 00:54:15

but there's capital punishment in the old testament.

00:54:15 --> 00:54:17

What this really means is thou shalt not

00:54:17 --> 00:54:20

commit murder. What is murder? The killing of

00:54:20 --> 00:54:21

an innocent person.

00:54:22 --> 00:54:24

If a judge orders an innocent man killed

00:54:24 --> 00:54:26

to save another, then that is a breach

00:54:26 --> 00:54:27

of justice

00:54:27 --> 00:54:29

and thus murder. Allah

00:54:30 --> 00:54:32

says in the Quran, Surat Al Maidah, ayah

00:54:32 --> 00:54:33

number 32,

00:54:44 --> 00:54:46

That we prescribed for the Bani Israel, the

00:54:46 --> 00:54:47

children of Israel,

00:54:48 --> 00:54:49

that if a person is killed,

00:54:53 --> 00:54:55

If a person is killed for other than

00:54:55 --> 00:54:56

justice,

00:54:56 --> 00:54:59

like someone is murdered then there's capital punishment

00:54:59 --> 00:55:02

or for spreading corruption upon the earth,

00:55:02 --> 00:55:04

then it is as if he has killed

00:55:04 --> 00:55:06

the whole of humanity.

00:55:07 --> 00:55:09

So God ordering the death of an innocent

00:55:09 --> 00:55:10

person

00:55:10 --> 00:55:11

is not theologically

00:55:11 --> 00:55:12

consistent.

00:55:13 --> 00:55:14

In Deuteronomy 2417,

00:55:15 --> 00:55:16

we read,

00:55:19 --> 00:55:22

Every man shall be put to death for

00:55:22 --> 00:55:25

his own sin. Allah Subhanahu Wa Ta'ala says,

00:55:28 --> 00:55:29

that no bearer of burdens

00:55:29 --> 00:55:31

can bear the burdens of another.

00:55:32 --> 00:55:34

In Ezekiel chapter 18 verse 20, in the

00:55:34 --> 00:55:37

nabiem, in the Old Testament, in the tanakh,

00:55:37 --> 00:55:40

we read the soul that sins it shall

00:55:40 --> 00:55:40

die.

00:55:41 --> 00:55:43

The the the iniquity of the son shall

00:55:43 --> 00:55:45

not be upon the father. The iniquity of

00:55:45 --> 00:55:48

the father shall not be upon the son.

00:55:48 --> 00:55:50

The righteousness of the righteous shall be upon

00:55:50 --> 00:55:52

him and the wickedness of the wicked

00:55:53 --> 00:55:55

shall be upon him. But if the wicked

00:55:55 --> 00:55:56

would turn from his wickedness

00:55:57 --> 00:55:59

and do that which is lawful and right,

00:55:59 --> 00:56:02

he shall surely live. He shall not die.

00:56:02 --> 00:56:04

What does it mean to turn to God?

00:56:04 --> 00:56:06

The word in Hebrew is teshuva,

00:56:07 --> 00:56:07

means toba.

00:56:08 --> 00:56:11

Tobbataba yatubu. In Arabic, in its etymology,

00:56:11 --> 00:56:12

loghatan,

00:56:12 --> 00:56:13

means to turn,

00:56:14 --> 00:56:14

to reorient,

00:56:15 --> 00:56:16

but we use it to mean

00:56:17 --> 00:56:19

toba, to repent. So this is the way

00:56:19 --> 00:56:22

to make right with God according to the

00:56:22 --> 00:56:23

prophets of Bani Israel

00:56:23 --> 00:56:26

as that we make tawba. In fact,

00:56:26 --> 00:56:28

remember Matthew chapter 9

00:56:28 --> 00:56:31

when Jesus quotes Hosea 66, I require mercy

00:56:32 --> 00:56:33

and not sacrifice

00:56:33 --> 00:56:35

and the knowledge of God more than burnt

00:56:35 --> 00:56:35

offerings.

00:56:41 --> 00:56:42

The soteriology

00:56:44 --> 00:56:46

of Luke Acts, the gospel of Luke in

00:56:46 --> 00:56:47

the book of Acts

00:56:47 --> 00:56:50

is vastly different than the Nicene Creed. In

00:56:50 --> 00:56:53

Luke acts, Jesus is only called saviour

00:56:53 --> 00:56:55

in the sense that he tells you about

00:56:55 --> 00:56:58

sin and how to deal with sin. He

00:56:58 --> 00:56:59

doesn't vicariously atone

00:57:00 --> 00:57:00

for sin

00:57:01 --> 00:57:03

and this is demonstrated in the beautiful parable

00:57:03 --> 00:57:07

of the prodigal son. The pericope known as

00:57:07 --> 00:57:09

the prodigal son in Luke chapter 15

00:57:10 --> 00:57:12

When a man has 2 sons, one son

00:57:12 --> 00:57:14

stays with him. The other one, is Musrif.

00:57:14 --> 00:57:17

He's a he's prodigal. He's a spendthrift and

00:57:17 --> 00:57:19

he's a sinner and he leaves his father

00:57:19 --> 00:57:21

and then he comes back years later and

00:57:21 --> 00:57:23

he sees his father from a distance and

00:57:23 --> 00:57:25

his father opens out his arms to him

00:57:25 --> 00:57:27

and hugs him and welcomes him back. What

00:57:27 --> 00:57:29

is the moral of this parable? Is it

00:57:29 --> 00:57:30

about blood sacrifice?

00:57:31 --> 00:57:33

No, it's about Tawbah, Teshuvah,

00:57:34 --> 00:57:35

it's about repentance.

00:57:35 --> 00:57:36

This is the teaching

00:57:37 --> 00:57:39

of Isa alaihis salam according to the gospel

00:57:39 --> 00:57:40

of Luke.

00:57:41 --> 00:57:44

Next point, number 4, Deuteronomy chapter 2123

00:57:44 --> 00:57:47

says, whoever is hanged on a tree is

00:57:49 --> 00:57:51

is accursed by God. And in fact, Paul

00:57:51 --> 00:57:53

says in the book of Galatians

00:57:54 --> 00:57:57

that Jesus became a curse for us. Very

00:57:57 --> 00:57:57

interesting.

00:57:57 --> 00:57:59

However, the Quran says the opposite.

00:58:03 --> 00:58:06

Allah subhanahu wa ta'ala quoting Isa

00:58:07 --> 00:58:10

says that that he has made me blessed

00:58:10 --> 00:58:11

wheresoever

00:58:11 --> 00:58:13

I am. In fact, the Quran says,

00:58:18 --> 00:58:20

They did not kill nor crucify Jesus.

00:58:20 --> 00:58:22

And if you look at all of these

00:58:22 --> 00:58:23

so called crucifixion

00:58:23 --> 00:58:24

prophecies

00:58:24 --> 00:58:28

that Trinitarian Christians will say, prophesize or foreshadow

00:58:28 --> 00:58:30

or our typologies of the crucifixion,

00:58:31 --> 00:58:33

none of them, not a single one of

00:58:33 --> 00:58:33

them

00:58:33 --> 00:58:35

say the Christ. None of them say

00:58:36 --> 00:58:37

or Moshiach

00:58:38 --> 00:58:41

in the Hebrew. Absolutely none of them. However,

00:58:41 --> 00:58:44

we read in Psalm 20, Psalm 20 verse

00:58:44 --> 00:58:46

6, David writes,

00:58:54 --> 00:58:57

He says, I know that God will save

00:58:58 --> 00:58:58

his messiah.

00:58:59 --> 00:59:01

He shall hear him from his holy heaven

00:59:01 --> 00:59:04

with the saving power of his right hand.

00:59:04 --> 00:59:06

In fact, the name Yeshu'a

00:59:06 --> 00:59:09

in Aramaic is a passive participle,

00:59:09 --> 00:59:11

meaning the one who is saved by God,

00:59:11 --> 00:59:12

according to the lexicon

00:59:13 --> 00:59:14

Strong's concordance.

00:59:15 --> 00:59:16

And finally, Leviticus

00:59:16 --> 00:59:18

chapter 3 verse 17 says,

00:59:25 --> 00:59:28

every type of blood you shall not eat

00:59:28 --> 00:59:29

an everlasting

00:59:29 --> 00:59:30

statute,

00:59:30 --> 00:59:34

an everlasting statute. Allah subhanahu wa ta'ala says,

00:59:39 --> 00:59:40

He has prohibited for you

00:59:42 --> 00:59:45

the flesh of dead animals that carry on

00:59:46 --> 00:59:49

as it were, and blood and the flesh

00:59:49 --> 00:59:50

of pigs.

00:59:50 --> 00:59:52

So what we find here is we don't

00:59:52 --> 00:59:53

find theological

00:59:54 --> 00:59:54

consistency

00:59:55 --> 00:59:56

with Orthodox Christian,

00:59:58 --> 00:59:59

Christology or theology.

00:59:59 --> 01:00:02

We find that the statements of Isa as

01:00:02 --> 01:00:04

recorded in the new testament

01:00:04 --> 01:00:07

are perfectly in line with the statements of

01:00:07 --> 01:00:10

Musa alaihis salam, attributed to Musa alaihis salam

01:00:10 --> 01:00:11

in the Torah,

01:00:11 --> 01:00:14

which has a clear trajectory into the time,

01:00:14 --> 01:00:16

into the teaching and theology of the prophet

01:00:16 --> 01:00:16

Muhammad

01:00:18 --> 01:00:19

wa salam.

01:00:20 --> 01:00:22

We ask Allah subhanahu wa ta'ala to increase

01:00:22 --> 01:00:23

us in knowledge.

01:00:29 --> 01:00:31

This is our final session,

01:00:31 --> 01:00:34

talking about the Holy Prophet, Isa alaihi wasalam.

01:00:35 --> 01:00:36

I want to, in this session, look at

01:00:36 --> 01:00:39

a verse from the Quran chapter 4, Suratul

01:00:39 --> 01:00:41

Nisa, ayah number 171,

01:00:42 --> 01:00:44

in which Allah subhanahu wa ta'ala begins by

01:00:44 --> 01:00:44

saying,

01:00:51 --> 01:00:53

Oh people of the book, now Imam Tabari

01:00:54 --> 01:00:55

as well as Imam al Suyuti,

01:00:56 --> 01:00:57

they take here

01:00:57 --> 01:00:58

to mean specifically

01:01:00 --> 01:01:01

the people of the gospel,

01:01:02 --> 01:01:04

the Christians. Others like Imam al Baydawi,

01:01:05 --> 01:01:07

he takes it as Jews and Christians.

01:01:07 --> 01:01:08

The verse

01:01:09 --> 01:01:10

continues.

01:01:13 --> 01:01:16

That Christ Jesus, the son of Mary was

01:01:16 --> 01:01:18

only the messenger of God. If we take

01:01:18 --> 01:01:20

the latter opinion that Allah subhanahu wa ta'ala

01:01:20 --> 01:01:22

is addressing Jews and Christians,

01:01:23 --> 01:01:24

with respect to Jesus,

01:01:25 --> 01:01:27

do not mention, do not maintain

01:01:27 --> 01:01:30

that he was a false prophet or born

01:01:30 --> 01:01:31

out of wedlock.

01:01:31 --> 01:01:33

That as is mentioned in the Talmud, which

01:01:33 --> 01:01:35

is the oral law that was finally regulated

01:01:36 --> 01:01:39

to writing and rabbinical exegesis upon it. This

01:01:39 --> 01:01:41

is considered ghuluuh. This is considered an extreme

01:01:41 --> 01:01:42

position

01:01:42 --> 01:01:45

with respect to Isa alaihis salam. But also

01:01:45 --> 01:01:47

the other side of that, the other extreme,

01:01:47 --> 01:01:50

do not make him into a god or

01:01:50 --> 01:01:52

the literal son of God. This is also

01:01:52 --> 01:01:54

this is also a type of excessiveness.

01:01:55 --> 01:01:57

Now the ulama of Ahlus Sunnah wal Jama'ah,

01:01:58 --> 01:02:01

they tend to take synthetic or middle positions.

01:02:01 --> 01:02:03

So you have 2 extremes and the opinion

01:02:03 --> 01:02:05

of Ahlus Sunnah wal Jama'a is in the

01:02:05 --> 01:02:07

middle way, what the Buddha would call

01:02:08 --> 01:02:08

madhyamika,

01:02:09 --> 01:02:11

the middle path, the middle way.

01:02:11 --> 01:02:13

For example, give you an example, the issue

01:02:13 --> 01:02:14

of the grave sinner,

01:02:15 --> 01:02:17

The Khawarij said someone who commits a major

01:02:17 --> 01:02:19

sin, a mortal sin

01:02:19 --> 01:02:20

has apostated

01:02:20 --> 01:02:22

the religion. They're no longer Muslim.

01:02:24 --> 01:02:24

The latter

01:02:26 --> 01:02:28

they had the diametrically opposed opinion

01:02:29 --> 01:02:32

and said if someone doesn't follow the Sharia

01:02:32 --> 01:02:34

then it doesn't even affect their iman, they

01:02:34 --> 01:02:35

were antinomians,

01:02:35 --> 01:02:37

the Sharia is optional.

01:02:37 --> 01:02:38

So

01:02:39 --> 01:02:41

they said a major sin does affect your

01:02:41 --> 01:02:42

iman,

01:02:42 --> 01:02:44

you're still a muslim however but now you

01:02:44 --> 01:02:45

have to make

01:02:46 --> 01:02:46

tawba.

01:02:47 --> 01:02:50

Okay. If the former opinion of Imam Tabari

01:02:50 --> 01:02:51

Imam Suyuti

01:02:51 --> 01:02:54

that Ahlal Kitab here means the people of

01:02:54 --> 01:02:54

the gospel,

01:02:55 --> 01:02:55

Allah

01:02:56 --> 01:02:58

is then telling us that the Christians, telling

01:02:58 --> 01:02:59

the Christians

01:03:00 --> 01:03:02

not to go into extremes about Isa

01:03:03 --> 01:03:04

In the past,

01:03:04 --> 01:03:07

Christians have maintained that Isa alaihis salam was

01:03:07 --> 01:03:09

both human and divine,

01:03:10 --> 01:03:12

and some said he became divine at his

01:03:12 --> 01:03:14

birth. Others said he became divine

01:03:15 --> 01:03:15

at his

01:03:16 --> 01:03:16

baptism.

01:03:17 --> 01:03:19

Others said he became divine at his resurrection.

01:03:20 --> 01:03:23

This latter is dubbed exaltation Christology

01:03:23 --> 01:03:25

by Bart Ehrman in his new book, How

01:03:25 --> 01:03:28

Jesus Became God. And this seems to be

01:03:28 --> 01:03:29

Pauline Christology.

01:03:30 --> 01:03:32

Paul seems to say that Jesus became divine

01:03:33 --> 01:03:34

in some way at his resurrection.

01:03:35 --> 01:03:37

Other Christians say that he was always divine

01:03:38 --> 01:03:40

as the pre eternal son, and that while

01:03:40 --> 01:03:43

he was caused by God, he was caused

01:03:43 --> 01:03:45

or generated by God.

01:03:45 --> 01:03:48

God caused him to be before time, so

01:03:48 --> 01:03:49

God does not have temporal,

01:03:50 --> 01:03:54

precedence over the son. Therefore, according to these

01:03:54 --> 01:03:54

Christians,

01:03:54 --> 01:03:56

there is no difference ontologically

01:03:57 --> 01:03:59

between the father and the son. Other Christians

01:03:59 --> 01:04:02

said that Jesus is 2 persons

01:04:02 --> 01:04:03

with 2 natures.

01:04:04 --> 01:04:05

Some gnostics

01:04:05 --> 01:04:08

said that. Other Christians said he's 1 person

01:04:08 --> 01:04:09

with 1 nature.

01:04:10 --> 01:04:11

This is called modal monarchism

01:04:12 --> 01:04:12

or patripassianism.

01:04:13 --> 01:04:16

Other Christians said he's one person with 2

01:04:16 --> 01:04:19

natures and this represents Catholic or Protestant

01:04:19 --> 01:04:20

Eastern Orthodoxy.

01:04:21 --> 01:04:23

Others said that he's only divine.

01:04:24 --> 01:04:26

He's not human at all, like the docetes

01:04:27 --> 01:04:29

which comes from the Greek verb dokeo

01:04:30 --> 01:04:32

which means to seem or to appear that

01:04:32 --> 01:04:35

Jesus only seemed to be flesh and blood.

01:04:35 --> 01:04:36

He was really a phantasm,

01:04:37 --> 01:04:39

a spiritual being. This was the opinion of

01:04:39 --> 01:04:40

the Marcionites

01:04:41 --> 01:04:42

and many other gnostics.

01:04:42 --> 01:04:44

With respect to proto orthodox

01:04:44 --> 01:04:45

christianity,

01:04:45 --> 01:04:47

the first four ecumenical

01:04:47 --> 01:04:48

councils

01:04:49 --> 01:04:50

reveals an interesting

01:04:51 --> 01:04:52

evolving Christology.

01:04:52 --> 01:04:53

In 325

01:04:53 --> 01:04:54

CE,

01:04:54 --> 01:04:57

the first ecumenical council, the council of Nicaea

01:04:58 --> 01:04:59

presided over by Constantine.

01:05:00 --> 01:05:02

They voted the bishops, 318

01:05:02 --> 01:05:04

bishops voted

01:05:04 --> 01:05:06

and they decided that Jesus is

01:05:08 --> 01:05:10

that the son is co substantial with the

01:05:10 --> 01:05:11

father. Not

01:05:12 --> 01:05:14

not similar to the father,

01:05:15 --> 01:05:18

not not different essentially than the father but

01:05:18 --> 01:05:19

of the same substance

01:05:19 --> 01:05:21

as the father. This was in 325

01:05:22 --> 01:05:24

of the Common Era. In 381,

01:05:24 --> 01:05:25

at the Council of Constantinople,

01:05:26 --> 01:05:29

the Holy Spirit was also declared officially to

01:05:29 --> 01:05:31

be co substantial with the Father and the

01:05:31 --> 01:05:34

Son. The Council of Ephesus, we mentioned in

01:05:34 --> 01:05:35

the first session about Isa alaihissalam,

01:05:36 --> 01:05:38

Mary was declared Theotokos,

01:05:39 --> 01:05:41

the carrier or bearer of God. And the

01:05:41 --> 01:05:42

council of Chalcedon

01:05:43 --> 01:05:45

in 4 51 of the common era, Jesus

01:05:45 --> 01:05:49

was declared to have 2 natures. He's 100%

01:05:49 --> 01:05:50

God and 100%

01:05:51 --> 01:05:51

man.

01:05:53 --> 01:05:55

Allah Subhanahu Wa Ta'ala continues,

01:05:58 --> 01:05:59

as we said,

01:05:59 --> 01:06:02

that Christ Jesus the son of Mary was

01:06:02 --> 01:06:03

only the messenger of God.

01:06:07 --> 01:06:09

And his word, and we said in previous

01:06:09 --> 01:06:12

sessions that this could mean either that he

01:06:12 --> 01:06:14

is his special personal creation

01:06:15 --> 01:06:15

or his unique

01:06:16 --> 01:06:17

pre eternal

01:06:17 --> 01:06:18

impersonal

01:06:18 --> 01:06:22

decree that eventually manifested in space time as

01:06:22 --> 01:06:23

Christ.

01:06:25 --> 01:06:27

That he cast upon Mary, and

01:06:29 --> 01:06:31

a spirit from him, and here according to

01:06:31 --> 01:06:33

the mufasareen of the Quran, the exegetes, the

01:06:33 --> 01:06:35

meaning of this is that the teachings of

01:06:35 --> 01:06:37

Christ are very ruhani.

01:06:37 --> 01:06:40

They're very spiritual. They're very mystical in nature.

01:06:40 --> 01:06:41

He was an ascetic

01:06:42 --> 01:06:44

in a hadith recorded by Imam Ahmad.

01:06:45 --> 01:06:47

The disciples came to Isa

01:06:47 --> 01:06:49

and they said to him how is it

01:06:49 --> 01:06:50

that you can walk on water?

01:06:51 --> 01:06:52

Isa

01:06:52 --> 01:06:56

said, bil yaqeen with yaqeen, with certitude. And

01:06:56 --> 01:06:57

they said, we have certitude.

01:06:57 --> 01:06:59

And he said, bring to me 3 objects.

01:07:00 --> 01:07:02

Bring mud, stones and gold.

01:07:03 --> 01:07:04

Mud, stones

01:07:04 --> 01:07:06

and gold. So they brought these objects and

01:07:06 --> 01:07:08

Isa alaihis salam said, what do you say

01:07:08 --> 01:07:10

about them? They said stones are better than

01:07:10 --> 01:07:12

mud and gold is the best. He said

01:07:12 --> 01:07:14

I don't see a difference between any of

01:07:14 --> 01:07:16

them. Know the secret of this and you

01:07:16 --> 01:07:18

can walk on water. You can transcend

01:07:19 --> 01:07:19

the elements.

01:07:21 --> 01:07:22

Islamic Christology

01:07:22 --> 01:07:24

sees itself as a restoration

01:07:25 --> 01:07:27

of the message and status of Christ.

01:07:27 --> 01:07:29

It is a restored theology

01:07:29 --> 01:07:30

of the Evionim,

01:07:31 --> 01:07:32

the original Christians,

01:07:32 --> 01:07:33

the Ebionites,

01:07:33 --> 01:07:34

the Nutsrim,

01:07:35 --> 01:07:37

the Nazarenes that were marginalized

01:07:37 --> 01:07:38

into oblivion

01:07:38 --> 01:07:40

when Constantine declared

01:07:41 --> 01:07:43

as the official version of Christianity.

01:07:45 --> 01:07:48

Our version, our Christology of Christ is that

01:07:48 --> 01:07:50

he was only human. Some have called this

01:07:50 --> 01:07:51

semitic adoptionism,

01:07:52 --> 01:07:55

dynamic monarchism, but he was the messenger of

01:07:55 --> 01:07:57

God. He was a slave of God par

01:07:57 --> 01:07:57

excellence.

01:07:57 --> 01:07:59

He was the true Messiah

01:07:59 --> 01:08:00

and he was a forerunner

01:08:00 --> 01:08:03

of Ahmad, also known as Muhammad

01:08:05 --> 01:08:06

The ayah concludes

01:08:08 --> 01:08:11

so believe in Allah and in his messenger

01:08:14 --> 01:08:16

and don't say 3,

01:08:16 --> 01:08:17

don't say trinity.

01:08:18 --> 01:08:19

Desist,

01:08:22 --> 01:08:24

it will be better for you.

01:08:27 --> 01:08:29

For your God, for indeed Allah Subhanahu wa

01:08:29 --> 01:08:30

Ta'ala

01:08:30 --> 01:08:32

is only 1 God

01:08:35 --> 01:08:37

Glory be to him that he should have

01:08:37 --> 01:08:37

a son.

01:08:38 --> 01:08:39

For him,

01:08:39 --> 01:08:42

this lamb here is the lamb tamlik,

01:08:43 --> 01:08:44

the lamb of ownership

01:08:44 --> 01:08:45

that he owns,

01:08:46 --> 01:08:47

that he possesses.

01:08:49 --> 01:08:51

Everything in the heavens and in the earth.

01:08:55 --> 01:08:58

And Allah subhanahu wa ta'ala is sufficient as

01:08:58 --> 01:08:58

a protector.

01:09:00 --> 01:09:01

Now, as I said earlier, and we'll end

01:09:01 --> 01:09:02

with this inshallah ta'ala.

01:09:03 --> 01:09:05

As I said earlier, nowhere in the New

01:09:05 --> 01:09:08

Testament that Isa alaihis salam ever say I

01:09:08 --> 01:09:10

am God or worship me. A lot of

01:09:10 --> 01:09:13

Trinitarian Christians point to the I am statements,

01:09:13 --> 01:09:15

the prologue of John's gospel. We dealt with

01:09:15 --> 01:09:18

John 1:1. We looked at John 10:30.

01:09:18 --> 01:09:19

Also, John 8:58

01:09:20 --> 01:09:23

is also claimed to be a divine claim

01:09:23 --> 01:09:24

of esalay salam

01:09:25 --> 01:09:29

by mainstream christian exegetes because Isa according to

01:09:29 --> 01:09:30

this

01:09:30 --> 01:09:33

passage, he says in the Greek prinabraham

01:09:34 --> 01:09:34

genestaiegoemi.

01:09:36 --> 01:09:38

Before Abraham was,

01:09:38 --> 01:09:40

I am. And the claim here is

01:09:42 --> 01:09:42

that if you look at Exodus chapter 3

01:09:42 --> 01:09:45

verse 14, when Moses is at the burning

01:09:45 --> 01:09:47

bush and he's speaking to God and he

01:09:47 --> 01:09:49

says, when I go into the Israelites, they're

01:09:49 --> 01:09:51

gonna ask me your name, what shall I

01:09:51 --> 01:09:51

tell them?

01:09:52 --> 01:09:55

And God tells him, say to them, Ehyeh

01:09:55 --> 01:09:58

Asher Ehyeh, I am what I am.

01:09:58 --> 01:10:00

I am what I am. Interestingly,

01:10:01 --> 01:10:03

Imam Ja'far as Sadiq, he noticed in the

01:10:03 --> 01:10:06

quranic version of the story, we also have

01:10:06 --> 01:10:09

this duplication of I am when Musa alaihis

01:10:09 --> 01:10:10

salam is at the burning bush

01:10:11 --> 01:10:13

and Allah subhanahu wa ta'ala tells him

01:10:14 --> 01:10:17

but before that when Allah identifies himself he

01:10:17 --> 01:10:17

says Inni

01:10:18 --> 01:10:19

an Allah,

01:10:19 --> 01:10:21

I am I am Allah.

01:10:22 --> 01:10:24

Why? According to Imam Jafar as Sadiq and

01:10:24 --> 01:10:26

Abul Qasim al Junaid,

01:10:26 --> 01:10:28

the meaning of that is Allah subhanahu wa

01:10:28 --> 01:10:31

ta'ala is telling Musa alaihis salam that he

01:10:31 --> 01:10:33

is the only non contingent being, the only

01:10:33 --> 01:10:34

necessary being,

01:10:35 --> 01:10:37

the only one that can truly say I

01:10:37 --> 01:10:39

am and mean it in its

01:10:39 --> 01:10:42

right, well everything else is is is contingent

01:10:42 --> 01:10:45

and derived from Allah subhanahu wa ta'ala.

01:10:46 --> 01:10:48

So the Christian claim here is, Jesus is

01:10:48 --> 01:10:51

saying before Abraham was, I am. God told

01:10:51 --> 01:10:53

Moses at the burning bush in Exodus 3,

01:10:53 --> 01:10:55

I am what I am. Jesus is claiming

01:10:55 --> 01:10:57

to be God. Interestingly,

01:10:57 --> 01:10:58

in 250

01:10:58 --> 01:11:00

before the common era,

01:11:00 --> 01:11:02

the Hebrew Bible was translated

01:11:02 --> 01:11:04

into Greek, a very famous translation

01:11:05 --> 01:11:06

called the Septuagint

01:11:06 --> 01:11:07

or the LXX

01:11:07 --> 01:11:10

meaning 70. And when the gospel authors, when

01:11:10 --> 01:11:13

they quote from the old testament, they're not

01:11:13 --> 01:11:13

translating

01:11:13 --> 01:11:16

directly from Hebrew, they're pulling from the Septuagint.

01:11:17 --> 01:11:19

And this is what the verse sounds like,

01:11:19 --> 01:11:20

Exodus 314

01:11:21 --> 01:11:22

in the Septuagint.

01:11:25 --> 01:11:27

God tells Moses,

01:11:27 --> 01:11:31

I am ho un. Ho is a relative

01:11:31 --> 01:11:31

pronoun.

01:11:32 --> 01:11:33

Un present active participle,

01:11:34 --> 01:11:37

meaning I am the one who is.

01:11:37 --> 01:11:40

I am he who is, the one who

01:11:40 --> 01:11:42

never dies, the one who is eternal.

01:11:43 --> 01:11:45

In the Greek and John, Jesus simply says

01:11:45 --> 01:11:46

ego emmi.

01:11:47 --> 01:11:49

He doesn't say ho an. He doesn't say

01:11:49 --> 01:11:52

the divine part. He simply says I am.

01:11:52 --> 01:11:53

I am what?

01:11:54 --> 01:11:56

Well, if we go back to John chapter

01:11:56 --> 01:11:58

4, we have the first I am statement,

01:11:59 --> 01:12:01

and this first I am statement is going

01:12:01 --> 01:12:02

to guide our meaning.

01:12:03 --> 01:12:05

Right? Tafsir by the book, tafsir of John,

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by John. It'll guide the rest of the

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I am statements in meaning throughout the gospel

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of John.

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So Jesus is at the well, the woman

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at the well says to him, I know

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the messiah is coming who shall tell us

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all things.

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Jesus responds in

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verse 26,

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I am he, the one who is speaking

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to you. I am what, God? No, I

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am the Messiah.

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When Jesus makes his I am statements all

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throughout John, they are claims of being the

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Christ, the Messiah, not claims of being God.

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But why say it like this before Abraham

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was, I am the Messiah. Why say it

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like that? Well, Jesus could be defending his

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legitimacy

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as the messiah by appealing to his,

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pneumatic

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temporal

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precedence

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over Abraham. In other words, the creation of

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his soul predates that of Abraham and this

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is how

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we looked at the prologue, John 1:1.

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So Isa is using, if this verse is

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authentic, he's using a very cogent, very strong

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argument defending his legitimacy

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as the Messiah. That I was in the

01:13:15 --> 01:13:17

knowledge and will of God even before Abraham

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was created.

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But it's not a divine claim. Is it

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usual for prophets to speak like this? Well,

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the prophet

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was asked, when did you become a prophet?

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He said, when Adam was

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When Adam was between

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the spirit and the body, I am the

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seal of the prophets.

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Meaning that his ruh was already created

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because the ruh of a person is that

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person, essentially.

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So the prophet sallallahu alaihi wasallam essentially could

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say prin Adam Ganestai

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ego emmi. Before Adam was, I am. But

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this is not a divine claim. May Allah

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subhanahu wa ta'ala increase us in knowledge. I'm

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going to end this final session by quoting

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the motto of Zaytunah College like I've done

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at the end of every other session.

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We're gonna recite it in the plural,

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Oh our Lord, increase us in knowledge. May

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Allah bless all of you. May Allah

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bless

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your Ramadan and accept

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all of our fasting and our prayers and

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our reading of the Quran and seeking knowledge

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for his sake alone.

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