Ali Ataie – Is the Qur’an preserved With Professor

Ali Ataie
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The conversation delves into the history and context of the Quran, including its use in modern media and writing, as well as its use in Christian apologists and parables. The title is a collection of words used in the Arabic language, and the history and context of the Uthmanic codex, including its historical significance, is discussed. Some leaders claim that the Red wedding Committee used the same language as the Red wedding Committee of the European Union to push their claims, but the differences in the structure of the palimpsest and the Sanorn's text are discussed. The speakers note that some leaders are using the same language as the Red wedding Committee of the European Union to push their claims, and the potential for "nafs" to be infallible is discussed.
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Hello, everyone, and welcome to blogging theology. Today,

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I'm delighted to talk to professor Aliyatay from

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Zaytuna College.

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Welcome back, sir.

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Thank you, brother Paul. It's,

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an honor and a privilege to

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join you once again on blogging Theology. I

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know I speak for, many when I say

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it's the best channel on YouTube. May Allah

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continue to bless you and your work, and,

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congratulations.

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Another milestone, a 150,

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1,000 subs.

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It's it's, it's great to, and this is

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great because it means more people can see

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your content, as well. So, this is all

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all good news.

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So for those, few who don't know, doctor

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Ali Atay is a scholar of biblical hermeneutics

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specializing in sacred languages, comparative theology, and comparative

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literature.

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At Zaytuna College, Doctor. Attai has taught Arabic,

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creedal theology, comparative theology,

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sciences of the Quran,

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introduction to the

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Quran, and seminal

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ancient texts.

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He received his MA in Biblical Studies from

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Pacific School of Religion and in 2016,

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his PhD in Cultural and Historical Studies in

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Religion

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from the Graduate Theological

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Union.

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He's a native

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Persian speaker and can read and write Arabic,

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Hebrew, and Greek. And he joined the Zetuna

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College faculty in 2012.

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In this blogging theology special,

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professor Ali Atay will do a presentation

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entitled

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Establishing the Preservation

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of the Quranic

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Text.

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And this is going to be a very

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wide ranging discussion

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looking also at the biblical manuscripts and

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common objections from orientalists

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and Christian polemicists

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such as the holes in the narrative

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accusation.

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So without more ado, it's over to you,

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sir.

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Thank you. Once again,

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believe it or not, I actually have a

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slideshow presentation, for today. So, hopefully, this will

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go smoothly. Let me, share the screen here.

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Okay. Perfect.

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Alright.

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So so today,

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we'll be,

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part 1 of a of a 2 part

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presentation on the Quran. My focus today will

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be exclusively on establishing the preservation of the

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Quran text.

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And the next time, Inshallah, I'll look at

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the actual,

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content and message and style of the Quran

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as well as the intertextuality

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of the Quran.

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That is to say how the Quran engages,

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with the text and traditions of Jews and

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Christians,

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the canonical gospels, the apocryphal gospels, the legend

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of Alexander, Talmudic tradition, etcetera. How the Quran

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is inimitable,

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are there historical

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errors in the Quran, are there grammatical mistakes

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in the Quran, are there foreign words in

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the Quran, etcetera. That will be part 2.

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Wow. Inshallah.

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But today, our focus,

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is the Quran's

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preservation.

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So let's let's establish what the text is

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before we examine it.

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And I I do apologize in advance. My

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presentation is a bit long winded.

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I have about 40 slides that I want

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to present,

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but, I I thought it was important to

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be as thorough as possible for the sake

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of the viewers. Absolutely. As you said, there

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are several there are several issues that, I'm

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frequently asked about that I think I need

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to address.

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And so I've tried to incorporate my thoughts

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about those issues in this,

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presentation.

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Now now before I officially start,

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I want to say,

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as something of a prologue,

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that I believe

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that the underlying

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factor

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that has led to many modern Muslims doubting

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the preservation of the Quran is actually their

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own ignorance

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of the traditional

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sciences of the Quran. In fact, their misapprehension

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as to what the Quran even is, the

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very nature, the method, and purpose of the

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Quranic revelation.

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Many Muslims have outright abandoned, the study of

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traditional texts concerning the ulnar Quran,

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and have rather relied on amateur preachers and

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apologists really to teach them about their scripture.

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And in fact, they were miseducated

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by these preachers and apologists

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who in their zeal to repudiate

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the Bible and draw a sharp distinction between

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the Quran and the Bible, they began to

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assert that the text of the Quran was

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uniformic in nature from its very inception.

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That unlike the bible that has numerous textual

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variants, the Quran has no textual variants. And

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of course, this is not exactly true.

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This is an inaccurate sort of reductionist

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that is to say simplistic understanding of the

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Quran that I think has formed our community.

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Yep. So so what is accurate? I mean,

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what do we learn from our traditional

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literature written by our traditional ulama?

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We learned that the Quran has has never

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been a uniformic text, but rather a multiformic

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text.

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And it does have text

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variants,

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but these are not of the same kind

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as those of the bible,

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specifically the new testament. So there is a

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major difference. Okay. So the textual variants of

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the new testament were deliberate changes made to

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the text,

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by scribes

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decades and centuries after the prophet Isa Alaihi

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Salam, after the prophet Jesus

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peace be upon him,

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that were motivated by theological rivalries among early

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Christian groups,

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that definitely made a huge impact

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on the theology of Christianity.

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The textual variants of the Quran are Yeah.

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Can I just sorry? You're

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just beginning, but I just wanna say I

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will mention some

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excellent books for people to follow on if

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they wanted to read about, for example, Bart

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Ehrman's book, The Orthodox Corruption of Scripture. The

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very point you're making, the effect of early

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Christological

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controversies

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on the text of the New Testament. This

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is an academic work. I've read it. It's

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highly regarded

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mainstream scholarship, and it illustrates in much more

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detail,

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the point that professor Ali Atay is making

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here. So sorry to interrupt, but I will

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mention this and other works,

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which, from a western,

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textual critical perspective

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substantiate in a mainstream way the points that

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Aleutai is making. So sorry to interrupt. Exactly.

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Thank you very much. Yeah. That is absolutely

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mainstream, and that book is a brilliant text.

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Anyone who's interested in textual studies, they have

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to they have to get this text. They

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have to go through it.

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The orthodox portion of scripture is absolutely something

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that needs to be done.

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Now the textual variants of the Quran,

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are traceable to the prophet Muhammad himself,

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actually, and are a facet of the very

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revelatory

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nature of the Quran. In other words, the

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Quranic variants are part of the revelation.

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So so that is a big difference, and

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we'll unpack that obviously during this presentation.

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But it is the alim, right, the scholar,

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the traditional scholar, not the amateur preacher who

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can explain these things to us in sophistication

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and, attention, to nuance.

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Now this is where the enemies of Islam

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sort of come into the picture. Right? So

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these revisionists,

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and polemicists,

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who are agnostic, they're atheist,

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they're Christian, they've taken notice,

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of the average Muslim's ignorance of his own

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traditional literature,

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and his claim of textual uniformity.

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And so these critics, what they do is

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they dip into our traditional literature,

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and they pull out these isolated narrations that

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debunk

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the claim of textual uniformity,

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a claim that no real Muslim scholar ever

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made. And then they deceptively present this to

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their audiences as evidence that the Quran is

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not preserved. But what the critics don't tell

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their audiences

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is that the traditional Muslim authorities

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have always believed that the Quran was revealed

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in a multi formic fashion

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and that this has nothing to do with

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the Quran's preservation. All traditional authorities maintained,

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that the Quran was preserved in light of

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its multiformic nature.

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In other words, these critics

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weaponize our own literature against us. Okay.

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They use our own traditional literature to basically

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tear down the straw men that ignorant Muslims

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constantly keep creating

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with their misguided claims of textual uniformity.

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And I'll explain obviously what I mean when

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I say the Quran is multi formic. This

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is extremely important

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to understand. Is it it is the important

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point. I'm I'm extremely pleased and and very

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grateful that you're making you're stressing this point

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at the outset because it is of fundamental

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importance.

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Fundamental importance. Exactly. Exactly.

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But I I wanna begin by actually talking

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about the external

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evidence of the Quran in the 1st century

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of the Hijra

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of the prophet Muhammad sallallahu alaihi wasallam. The

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Hijra, of course, is the migration of the

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prophet Muhammad, peace be upon him, and his

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followers from Mecca to Medina in 6/22,

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of the common era.

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So let's go to, this slide here.

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Alright.

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So to to put it as

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a question then, how well is the Quran

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attested in manuscripts, physical manuscripts that are dated

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to the 1st century?

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Now perhaps a comparison of the new testament

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will help us put things into perspective here.

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First of all, how how how does a

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textual scholar date a manuscript?

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Well, according to doctor Haytham Sitti, who has

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been on blogging theology,

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and is probably the the foremost, scholar of

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Quran manuscripts,

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in the world, He's the executive director of

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ICSA.

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Textual scholars basically look at 3 things, 3

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main things. Right? So paleography,

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orthography,

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and and radiocarbon dating. So paleography looks at

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letter shapes, how words are written. Orthography looks

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at spelling conventions, how words are spelled.

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And radiocarbon dating is a is a type

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of scientific analysis,

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that gives age estimates,

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for carbon based materials.

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So these are the three main things. Okay.

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Now now Jesus, peace be upon him, was

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speaking and teaching the gospel

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in the late

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twenties and early thirties of the 1st century

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CE.

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So how much of the 27 book canon

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of the new testament

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is attested in extant manuscript witnesses

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that are dated

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by

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extent simply means

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that that we physically have today, existing manuscript.

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If you have go to a museum and

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say, that's the manuscript there. We can physically

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touch it. The extant is just an academic

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way of saying an actual existing manuscript in

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today's world.

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Yes. Exactly. We have them in our possession.

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Yep. Now keep in mind that traditional Christians

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believe that all of the new testament books

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were written in the 1st century

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and that they were all authored by apostolic

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author

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that is to say eyewitnesses to Jesus' life

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and message. Of course, many Christian apologists who

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are also anti Muslim premises continue to hold

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to this view. The view that all of

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the new testament was written in the 1st

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century by men who interacted with Jesus Christ,

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peace be upon him, in some way.

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So what percentage of extent new testament

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manuscripts are dated to 1st century CE? The

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answer is 0%,

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literally 0.

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The absolute oldest extant manuscript of the new

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testament is is John Ryland's papyrus number 52,

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which is the size of an ace of

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spades,

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and contains a few verses of John 18

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on its recto and verso.

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P 52 is dated between 125

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to 150 of the common era. So, that's

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anywhere from 90 to a 120 years after

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the life of Jesus Christ. I've actually I've

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just I've actually seen it. It's in the

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University of Manchester in the John Rylands Library,

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not far not too far from here. It's

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a credit card sized

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fragment written on both sides in in Greek,

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the language of the gospel itself. And that

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is the earliest,

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bit of the manuscript from the New Testament

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anywhere in the world. And it's stated,

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as early as a 150

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CE. This is after Jesus's alleged birth date,

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that is.

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Yeah. Yeah. That's that's that's the oldest thing.

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That's that's all there Absolutely. Then then then

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maybe p 104, which contains a few verses

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of Matthew 21,

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it's probably dated 150 to 200, then perhaps

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p 90, which is also,

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a a a small section of John 18

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also dated between 15200.

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So let me say it like this, out

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of the nearly 8,000 verses in the new

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testament,

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0 are attested in manuscripts dated to the

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1st century, 0 out of 8,000 verses.

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And about, I don't know, 25 to 50

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verses, let's say it's 50, 50 out of

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8,000 verses are attested in manuscripts

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before the year

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200 of the common era, all of them

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between 125 and 2

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100.

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So let me let me say it again

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so it's clear. 0% of the new testament

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is attested in manuscripts from the 1st century

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CE, and less than 1% is attested in

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manuscripts from the 2nd century. So I'm talking

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about manuscript

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papyri

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that is extent that scholars have, as you

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said, in their possession.

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However, Christian apologists,

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like Daniel Wallace at Dallas Theological Seminary,

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they'll, you know, they'll argue that, you know,

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p 46 and p66

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and p 77, these other papyri, p 98,

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p 103, These could all be 2nd century

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as well, although this is highly disputed.

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I think most, textual critical scholars date these

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papyri between

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203100

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of the common era. But okay, fine. Let's

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say they're 2nd century. They're still not 1st

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century.

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There is nothing

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from the 1st century of Christianity.

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Okay?

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And of course, Wallace,

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had that infamous moment. Right? He he actually

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announced,

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in a live debate with Bart Ehrman in

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2,012

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Very embarrassing. That a first century manuscript of

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Mark, right, had had just been discovered and

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that the dating was confirmed

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by this is what he said. The best

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papriologist

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on the planet,

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a man whose reputation is unimpeachable.

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Those are his exact words. And, of course,

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this turned out to be a fraud.

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There is nothing from the 1st century of

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Christianity.

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Okay.

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Now a a Christian apologist may interject here

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and say,

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well,

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there were early church fathers, you know, the

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so called apostolic fathers,

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at the end of the 1st century who

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referenced books in the Pauline corpus.

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Okay? But here, I think we should make

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a distinction. Right? So as Muslims, we're interested

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in Jesus, peace be upon him. Muslims and

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Christians both believe in Jesus. Muslims and Christians

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believe that Jesus brought the gospel.

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So so even if Paul's letters are referenced

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in documents, outside the canon written

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3 apostolic fathers who arguably wrote in in

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the 1st century of the common era.

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Clement of Rome, Ignatius of Antioch, and Polycarp

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of of Smyrna.

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So let's start with Clement of Rome. He

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died 99 of of the common era. He

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was the author of first Clement, which is

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generally regarded as genuine. Yep. And written at

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the end of the 1st century,

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maybe 96 of the common era. Yeah. First

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Clement is a letter that Clement of Rome,

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also known as pope Clement,

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wrote to Corinth, right, to advise them on

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certain church issues. And Clement quoted Paul,

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several times. He quoted Jesus once,

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in 46 8 of first Clement. He quoted

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Jesus from the synoptic tradition, the saying of

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the millstone.

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But Clement, did not cite it as coming

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from Matthew, Mark, or Luke. Right. But the

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more important question is, do we now have

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a copy

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of first Clement from the 1st century where

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this one pericope from the synoptic tradition is

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attested?

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And the answer is no. It is not

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extent. Okay.

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So moving on. Number 2, Ignatius of Antioch,

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who died 108 of the common era according

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to Eusebius of Caesarea.

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Oh, by the way, just to point out,

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but a poor old poor old Iglesias,

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he was actually eaten by lions in Rome.

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I mean, that was his fate, and he

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was taken across,

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the Mediterranean

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to various towns, and he got various letters

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to various churches on his way to be

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eaten by lions. Yes. He was a a

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martyr. Yeah. I mean, sometimes it's a pretty

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horrible way to go, but his letters, the

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ones we now know of are seem to

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be authentic as I'm sure you gotta tell

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us anyway.

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Yeah. Yeah. So Ignatius, he ran afoul of

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emperor Trajan. Right?

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So he was he was condemned to death

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in Rome. And then while traveling from Antioch

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to Rome, he wrote these 7 letters to

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various Christian congregations. They're called the 7 Ignatian

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epistles.

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And in these letters, he quotes a handful

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of verses from Matthew, Luke, and John.

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There are several problems here, though. Number 1,

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if he wrote these letters while en route

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to his martyrdom in 108,

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then these are not 1st century attestations of

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the gospels. 108 is in the 2nd century.

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Number 2, many historians of the modern period

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highly doubt the reliability of Eusebius who tells

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us the story of Ignatius

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because Eusebius was basically Constantine's spin doctor.

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And so many historians actually date the death

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of Ignatius to the 1 thirties or even

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1 forties.

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And number 3,

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there are other historians and protestant authorities

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who maintain that these letters are total forgeries.

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So they're highly disputed. But let's just say

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for argument's sake okay. And and in this

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presentation, you'll notice I'm

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going to make a lot of argument's sake

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arguments or statements, I should say.

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Let's say for arguments' sake that Ignatius wrote

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these in 99 of the Common Era, the

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first century. Do we now have copies of

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the Ignatian epistles from the 1st century,

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or he quotes a handful of verses from

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the gospels?

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No. They're not extent. Okay.

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And this is also very interesting kind of

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as as a side note.

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According to the, early church tradition,

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Ignatius was a disciple of John the apostle.

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And, of course, John was believed to have

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written the gospel of John. Of course, nobody

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really believes this anymore.

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According to the dubious Eusebius,

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Ignatius was

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the the 3rd bishop of Antioch after Peter

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and Avodius.

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Also, this is really interesting. Early church fathers

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said that the boy that Jesus took in

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his arms in Mark 9

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and said something to the effect of anyone

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who welcomes a a a little child like

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this on my behalf welcomes me, something like

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that. That boy was Ignatius.

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This is this is what many proto orthodox

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church fathers said. Who knew Ignatius was born

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and raised in Capernaum in the Galilee,

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in Palestine.

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So historians who date Ignatius' death to the

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130s or 140s

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compellingly

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contend

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that the early church kind of fudged the

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dates. Right? They sort of pushed everything back

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because they wanted to desperately create

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a linked chain of transmission

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that went from Ignatius

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directly to Christ.

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Okay. In the nomenclature

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of Islam, they wanted to create an Isnad

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Muqtasim Marufur.

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They wanted to create a chain of transmission

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that is totally linked

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and goes back to a prophet,

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but their deception has been, exposed.

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And this this was probably because the Jews

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were debating them about the Christian Jesus,

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whether they were rabbinical Jews or Jewish Christians.

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And in Judea in in Judaism,

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the idea of a masorah,

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right, an is not is very important, actually.

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And so we can imagine, like, the Jews

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were saying to these Pauline Christian fathers, you

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believe that Jesus,

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the Jewish messiah was God,

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and that, he was a human sacrifice under

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whose authority? And the Christians would say, well,

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my teacher so and so learned from Ignatius,

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who learned from John the apostle, who learned

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from,

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Jesus. So clearly a fabricated chain of

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transmission.

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The the 3rd apostolic father is Polycarp of

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Smyrna.

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His his his only surviving work that is

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genuine is his letter to the Philippians where

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he quotes Jesus from Matthew,

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four times, the Luke in Jesus once, and

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the Mark in Jesus once. So that's it.

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Six quotations.

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Interestingly,

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his letter begins with a reference to the

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death of Ignatius.

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So this is clearly a second century document,

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probably 140, 145

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of the common era. I mean, he died

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in 155.

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So we don't have anything extent from Polycarp

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from that period. The early church,

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also said that Polycarp was a

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disciple of John the apostle.

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Now

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Justin Martyr, Clement of Alexandria,

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Tertullian of Carthage,

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Irenaeus of Smyrna, origin of Alexandria, all of

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these celebrated early church fathers who extensively

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quoted the new testament, they were all either

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in the 2nd or third centuries.

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Okay? So even if we had their original

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autograph writings in our hands,

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which we

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But even if we did, they would still

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not be 1st century

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documents. So here's the bottom line here on

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the slide,

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At the bottom of the slide, there are

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0 extent manuscripts. There are 0 extent witnesses

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of the 4 gospels from the 1st century

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either as manuscripts

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or as writings of 1st century Christians?

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Okay. 0.

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And,

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and by the way,

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this is why, by the way, many historians

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actually,

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date Luke, Acts, and John,

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to the 2nd century. I think David Litwak

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dates Luke, Acts, and 2nd century.

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Some scholars think that the writings of Josephus

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may have influenced,

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the gospel of Luke.

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With respect to,

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acts specifically, you have, like, Richard Purvo, Amy

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Jill Levine,

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Steve Mason, Burton Mack, Dennis Macdonald, Paula Fredriksen,

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all date acts to the 2nd century. And

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so but Bob Oerman himself is inclined to

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accept a later date as well. So, actually,

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the dating is not getting earlier than earlier.

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It's getting later and later in,

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in some in some, of these subjects. Lukacs,

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as you say. And that's a very different

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trajectory perhaps from the the Kranick, story, which

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is we're gonna juxtapose and compare and contrast.

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Exactly. Very different. Exactly the opposite. Yeah. And,

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juxtapose and compare and contrast it. Exactly. Very

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different. Exactly the opposite. Yeah.

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In in his preamble, Luke himself says, right,

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as we know that there were many

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poloi gospels, many gospels,

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that were written before he decided to write

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one. This makes a lot more sense if

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he's writing in the 2nd century.

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The ACT seminar,

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concluded after 10 years of research that the

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book of ACTS is 2nd century.

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ACTS is of course a sort of whitewashed,

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that is to say sort of sanitized,

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cleaned up,

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idealized

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story of the early church

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that tries to minimize or downplay

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the massive conflict between, we can say, camp

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Paul and camp James slash Peter that we

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glean from the earlier Pauline epistles.

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Most scholars date the gospel of John to

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90

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or 100 of the common era, some earlier,

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some later, even as late as 140.

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So dating the original composition of Luke, Ax,

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and John

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to the end of the 1st century, which

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I am willing to do, is still being

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generous to the Christian tradition.

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Okay. Now now here a Christian apologist might

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say something like, well, just because a scholar

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or 2

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attributes a late date

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to 1 or 2 of the gospels doesn't

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mean anything. John Wansbrough

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dated the original composition of the Quran

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to the 8th century.

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Does that mean he's right? Right? So so

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here's the difference. This is a false analogy.

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This is a smoke screen. It's a desperate

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sort of deflection.

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John Wansborough and his ilk have been definitively

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falsified,

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and I'll show you why in a minute.

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The contentions of Wansbrough and and Cronay,

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are sitting really in the dustbins of history.

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However, historians who date some of the gospels

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to the to the 2nd century have good

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reasons for doing so.

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The biggest reason is that there are 0

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extant manuscripts

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of any gospel dated to the 1st century,

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and no Christian writer is undisputedly quoting these

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gospels in the 1st century. When Clement of

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Rome quoted Jesus' statement about the millstone,

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he doesn't cite Matthew, Mark, or Luke. Perhaps

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he quoted this oral tradition,

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Perhaps he was paraphrasing

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Mark or Matthew. It's not clear at all

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that he has knowledge of Luke, Acts, or

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John.

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So let me say it again, and then

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we'll move on.

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There are 0 extant manuscript. There are 0

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extant witnesses of the 4 gospels

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from the 1st century either as manuscripts

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or as writings of 1st century Christians. And

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on that point, if I could just, make

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another plug,

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all these books,

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this one is Whose Word is It Anyway?

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The story behind the New Testament,

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Who Changed the New Testament and Why by

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Bart Ehrman. And it talks about these manuscript

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traditions, the a, the dating of them, and

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also how they were,

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changed as well. The copyists of the early

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Christian writings,

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and originals that matter. The fact that we

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don't have originals and why that matters

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and theologically motivated alteration of the text. So

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this book is, well worth is is not

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really written for an academic audience, but more

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for an educated public. So I recommend that

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to follow on what Doctor. Ali Atay has

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just said.

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Yes. Thank you. Yeah. It's an excellent excellent

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text, a good a good starter book to

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get into these issues.

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Now, let's look at the Quran's attestation

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in its 1st century. Okay? So, I'm not

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talking about the biography of the prophet, Right?

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I'm not talking about the Sira. I'm

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talking about the Quran.

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Okay? So so like Jesus, the prophet Muhammad

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was also active in the twenties early thirties

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of his century and also earlier.

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So the first Islamic century corresponds roughly

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to the year 6/22 to 7/22 of the

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common era, but I will actually limit things

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to only the 7th century of the common

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era. So 6 99 CE

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is sort of the latest date.

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There are there are over 2 dozen

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confirmed 1st century Hijri,

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that is 7th century CE manuscripts

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of the Quran extent right now,

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and many others out there waiting to be

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identified. And doctor Sickly says this number will

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definitely increase

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Yeah. As more manuscripts

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wait to be analyzed in their paleography, orthography,

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and radiocarbon dating. So at Mangana 1572

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a,

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also known as, you know, the the Birmingham

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manuscript,

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this manuscript was a

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was initially misdated as a 2nd century Hijri

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manuscript,

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primarily because the script was wrongly identified as

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Kufic.

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It is in fact Hejazic.

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In 2011, doctor Abolfadelli had the manuscript radiocarbon

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dated,

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and the results were stunning.

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It was dated no later than 645 of

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the common era with

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95.4%

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accuracy.

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That is 13 years after the death of

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the prophet, peace be upon him. That is

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right around the time Uthman became the 3rd

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caliph.

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Furthermore, manuscript 328c

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was identified as being from the same codex

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as the Birmingham manuscript.

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So, this comes out to about 8 percent

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of the Quran dated to within 13 years

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of the prophet at

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the absolute latest. Mhmm. I mean, based on

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this dating, one could make the case

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that Mengana 1572

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a and manuscript 328 c was originally a

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companion codex,

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the mushaf of an unknown companion,

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of the prophet.

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But is it just this 8%?

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Right? How much of the entire Quran is

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attested in manuscript witnesses from the 1st century

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history? The answer is the entirety

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of the Uthmanic text.

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Okay? The the website Islamic awareness has listed

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all Qur'anic manuscripts

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that are dated within the first, Islamic century.

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And according to the researchers who run the

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site, these manuscripts constitute up to 96%

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of the Quran. Now doctor Sittli believes that

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that data is outdated actually. Yeah. And it's

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closer to a 100%. We have 100%

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of the Quran in extant manuscript witnesses

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from the 1st Islamic century.

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Okay. Okay. Of course, the main subject of

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transmission is I mean, this is not your

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subject now, maybe later, but the main mode

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of transmission of the Quran is not through

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manuscript form but through mutawata, multiple multiple

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transmission orally,

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and in such a fashion that it's impossible

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for it to have been forged at all

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because so many people,

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memorize it and they're all agreement on the

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same Quran. You're talking about the the textual

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manifestation of that. So unlike the Bible, which

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is really just a physical man manuscript tradition,

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the Quran is primarily

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oral in its mode of transmission, I would

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say. Exactly. Primarily oral. Very, very important idea.

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And, yeah, we're gonna get there inshallah. Right.

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But just to reiterate the point again, there's

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we have 100% of the Quran in exit

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manuscript witnesses. And so this is the opinion

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of of doctor Haytham Sivkani, doctor Manayin Van

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Putten,

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doctor Sean Anthony.

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These scholars obviously hold opinions that I disagree

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with, and I'll talk about that. But when

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it comes to the attestation of the Quran,

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we are all in agreement. The entirety

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of the text is attested in the 1st

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century Hijri. So this is without question. Okay.

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According to Doctor. Siffley, the process of manuscript

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dating has become much more accurate in recent

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years. So some manuscripts,

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as you said earlier, have been reconsidered,

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and dated earlier than before.

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Doctor Siddky mentions that a manuscript called

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So Ri Medina 1A in Turkey is now

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believed to be a first century manuscript

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written in Hejazic and Kufic and is more

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or less the entire Quran.

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Other, 1st century manuscripts include the Tak Kapi

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manuscript, which is late 1st century, possibly early

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2nd century of the Hijra, it's 99% of

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the Quran.

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The Chubagan

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manuscript is 1st century. It's dated between 649

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and and 675

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of the common era. It's about 26% of

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the Quran. There's something called the codex Pericino

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Petropolitanist,

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which is, 46% of the Quran. You have

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codex BL, British Library,

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OR 2 165,

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57%

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of the Quran.

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Codex mesh had 90%, codex 331,

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29%,

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codex 330 g, 21%, codices, Marcell 17, 18,

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19, etcetera, etcetera, and many more in the

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1st century, including the sunapalemsest,

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okay, which is called San'a 1 or c

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one,

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which is, about 41% of the Quran, but

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a different textual tradition,

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okay, than the other manuscripts. And we'll talk

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about that, but it is by and large

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identical

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to the Uthmani textual tradition.

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And we'll talk about why it's slightly different.

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This is a great topic

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that only supports

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the Muslim narrative.

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Okay. So here's the bottom line. The entire

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Quran

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without

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dispute is attested in multiple manuscript witnesses

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dated within the 7th century, before 700 of

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the common era.

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So,

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I would say it's, you know, it's it's

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high time for these radical

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historical revisionists and highly bitter Christian polemicists

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to

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simply come to terms with this. I mean,

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this doesn't mean

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the contents of the Quran are true. Right?

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We'll talk about the actual content and teachings

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and style of the Quran in a future

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podcast, Inshallah. So that is a different question.

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For today's podcast, my goal is simply to

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convey to the audience,

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that what we regard nowadays as the Quran,

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was first uttered by the historical

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Mohammed of Arabia, peace be upon him. And

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of course, this is the general historical consensus.

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He is the source of the Quran, historically

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speaking.

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Whether it's a revelation or not is a

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question for next time. Whether it's miraculous or

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or inimitable,

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that's that's next time,

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inshallah.

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So moving on here,

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let's let's talk about,

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the Ashraf. Okay.

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So this is also an extremely important topic.

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Okay? Now doctor Yasser Qadhi, he made some

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controversial statements,

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not too long ago,

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about the Quran with respect to the topic

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of,

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the akhruf and the qira'at and the relationship.

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And and I would translate akhruf as recitational

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variations.

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Okay. Ahroof is recitational variations and Qira'at as,

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canonical reading traditions.

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And I'll elaborate,

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on these, shortly,

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Inshallah. Now I I agree with Doctor. Yasser

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that this can be a difficult topic. Okay.

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But I absolutely disagree with the notion that

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our narrative is somehow

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efficient or ill equipped when it comes to

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answering the inquiries of modern secular academics.

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There are no holes in our narrative.

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There is nothing about the aharuf

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or qira'at of the Quran

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that some western scholar at Yale or Harvard

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can point

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out to a, traditional Alem that will throw

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that Alem for a loop,

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and confound him and give him some sort

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of existential crisis. We have unparalleled

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robust scholarship in these disciplines that goes back

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centuries

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across countless volumes, and it's all transparent.

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Okay. Okay. So it's well established in our

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tradition,

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that the Quran was revealed to the prophet,

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sallallahu alaihi sallam,

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upon 7 letters, literally,

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sometimes translated as as 7,

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modes.

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Again, I prefer 7 types of recitational

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variations.

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So from our perspective, these ahrof are revelation.

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They are by design.

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They're they're not by accident.

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The essential purpose of these Ahroof,

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these variations is 2 fold. Okay? The first

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is theological,

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that the Ahroof enrich our understanding

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of the Kalam of God, the speech of

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God, the Quran. But by making the Quran

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a multiformic text,

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Allah

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opened up different meanings for us. We are

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enriched intellectually and spiritually by the Ahruf.

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The Ahruf give us a deeper engagement with

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the Kalamullah, and I'll give you examples, Insha'Allah.

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The second purpose is, is practical.

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The akhruf are means of taisir.

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They make the Quran's recitation

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and memorization

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easier for us. They give us options.

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There are multiple correct readings. There is recitational

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latitude

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and this is out of God's mercy. Again,

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this is by design,

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not by accident.

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The the presence of the 7 Ashraf is

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is.

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This is something that is well known and

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established in the religion.

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It cannot be denied.

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It's not some sort of secret.

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It's mentioned in numerous hadith across multiple volumes,

00:34:15 --> 00:34:17

Buhari and Muslim and Tirmidhi and Nesay, Muslim

00:34:17 --> 00:34:17

Ahmed,

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Muwata Malik, Musanaf ibn Abi Sheva, etcetera. Over

00:34:21 --> 00:34:22

20 companions

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mentioned this on our hadith corpus.

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Many would say that it's Muwata'lafdi,

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in other words, mass transmitted

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in its in its very,

00:34:29 --> 00:34:30

wording.

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And the most eminent secular,

00:34:34 --> 00:34:35

textual critics and historians of today

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maintain

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that the tradition of the 7 Ahroof most

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likely goes directly back to the prophet himself,

00:34:43 --> 00:34:45

because of the popularity and antiquity

00:34:46 --> 00:34:48

of this tradition. In other words, the tradition

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of

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the the 7 akhruf was not invented

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by later Muslim scholars

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as a way of sort of explaining why

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there is recitational variance in the Quran.

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Historically, the source of the tradition of the

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Ashraf was the prophet,

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that he used it as a way of

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explaining

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why there was recitational variance

00:35:07 --> 00:35:09

in the Quran. So so that is very

00:35:09 --> 00:35:10

important.

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And just a couple of hadith here. The

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prophet sallallahu alaihi wa sallam said according to

00:35:14 --> 00:35:16

Ibra Haqqas, it's reported by Imam al Bukhari,

00:35:16 --> 00:35:18

akhraani jibil alayhi salam alharf falamazanastazeeduhuhatinta'a'a'ati

00:35:22 --> 00:35:22

akhruf,

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that Gabriel read the Quran to me in

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1 Haruf, Haruf is the singular of Ahruuf.

00:35:28 --> 00:35:29

And,

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I continued to ask him for increase until

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it reached 7 Ahruuf.

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Imam Ahmad reports,

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this is the famous hadith between a dispute

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between Omar and Hisham.

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So, Omar and Hisham ibn Hakim

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2 companions,

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they each read the same verse from Suratul

00:35:47 --> 00:35:48

Furqan differently.

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Okay, so they went to the prophet sallallahu

00:35:50 --> 00:35:53

alaihi wasallam. In fact, Umar dragged Hisham to

00:35:53 --> 00:35:55

the prophet. He took him by his collar.

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So so the Muslims from the very beginning,

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they were very intent on getting the Quran

00:36:00 --> 00:36:01

exactly right

00:36:01 --> 00:36:02

and investigating,

00:36:03 --> 00:36:05

readings that were questionable.

00:36:05 --> 00:36:07

And so the prophet asked Umar to recite

00:36:07 --> 00:36:09

and Umar recited, and then the prophet said,

00:36:09 --> 00:36:09

hakadhaunzilat,

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thus it was revealed.

00:36:12 --> 00:36:14

And then the prophet asked Hisham to recite.

00:36:14 --> 00:36:17

So Hisham recited and then the prophet said

00:36:17 --> 00:36:17

hakadhaunzilat,

00:36:18 --> 00:36:21

like that it was revealed, or thus it

00:36:21 --> 00:36:23

was revealed. But then he concluded by clarifying

00:36:23 --> 00:36:25

in the hadith al Quran, unzilaaalasabati

00:36:25 --> 00:36:26

akhuffaquraummatayasara.

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That the

00:36:29 --> 00:36:31

Quran indeed was revealed

00:36:31 --> 00:36:33

in 7 Ahroof. So, read what is easy

00:36:33 --> 00:36:34

for you.

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And just a third report, Imam Muslim reports

00:36:37 --> 00:36:39

that Ubay ibn al Qaab said that he

00:36:39 --> 00:36:40

entered the mosque,

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and he heard the recitation of 2

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different from each other as well as different

00:36:45 --> 00:36:47

from his own. So a type of doubt,

00:36:47 --> 00:36:48

he said,

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entered

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into his heart. And Doctor. Yasser, he he

00:36:51 --> 00:36:53

mentioned this hadith to make a point that

00:36:53 --> 00:36:56

even a great companion like Ubayy ibn Nukab

00:36:56 --> 00:36:57

was initially puzzled

00:36:57 --> 00:36:58

by this,

00:36:59 --> 00:37:01

multi formic aspect of the Quran. It's very

00:37:01 --> 00:37:01

unique

00:37:02 --> 00:37:02

to the Quran.

00:37:03 --> 00:37:05

And then the prophet explained the akhruf and

00:37:05 --> 00:37:06

their purpose to him and the doubt left

00:37:06 --> 00:37:09

him. And this hadith supports our narrative

00:37:10 --> 00:37:13

that there were several companion reading traditions

00:37:13 --> 00:37:16

before the standardization of the text by the

00:37:16 --> 00:37:18

Uthmani codex committee, and we're gonna talk about

00:37:18 --> 00:37:20

that. But this is what the committee had

00:37:20 --> 00:37:21

to work with.

00:37:22 --> 00:37:24

And there are other reports as well. But

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but here's the main point I want to

00:37:26 --> 00:37:27

to emphasize again.

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It is most probable historically

00:37:30 --> 00:37:33

historically, that the prophet himself is the source

00:37:33 --> 00:37:34

of these recitational

00:37:35 --> 00:37:38

variations in the Quran, that he recited the

00:37:38 --> 00:37:41

Quran in various ways, and that he claimed

00:37:41 --> 00:37:42

that the reason for this was the 7

00:37:42 --> 00:37:44

achruf. Now a Christian, an atheist,

00:37:45 --> 00:37:47

you know, a secular historian will say that

00:37:47 --> 00:37:48

he doesn't believe that the prophet,

00:37:48 --> 00:37:49

is receiving,

00:37:50 --> 00:37:52

receiving these words from the from god. That's

00:37:52 --> 00:37:55

fine. Whether the prophet is receiving revelation or

00:37:55 --> 00:37:57

not, it makes the most sense historically

00:37:58 --> 00:38:00

to attribute at least a portion of these,

00:38:00 --> 00:38:01

textual variations,

00:38:02 --> 00:38:03

to the prophet himself.

00:38:05 --> 00:38:05

Now

00:38:06 --> 00:38:07

a historian might claim,

00:38:08 --> 00:38:10

that other recitational,

00:38:10 --> 00:38:13

variations that Muslims regard as authentic,

00:38:14 --> 00:38:15

sprang up

00:38:15 --> 00:38:17

after the prophet as well.

00:38:17 --> 00:38:18

I mean, I I don't agree with that,

00:38:18 --> 00:38:20

and I'll show you why.

00:38:20 --> 00:38:22

But I think it must be acknowledged by

00:38:22 --> 00:38:22

historians

00:38:23 --> 00:38:25

that the recitation of the Quran as a

00:38:25 --> 00:38:26

multiformic

00:38:27 --> 00:38:28

phenomenon has a prophetic

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provenance,

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a prophetic origin

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that at the very least, the starting point

00:38:34 --> 00:38:35

of these variations

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is not in the post prophetic period.

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I mean, I think the most an unbeliever

00:38:40 --> 00:38:42

or a a a skeptical historian,

00:38:43 --> 00:38:45

could say is something like, okay, fine. The

00:38:45 --> 00:38:48

prophet invented the concept of the akhruf because

00:38:48 --> 00:38:49

he couldn't remember

00:38:50 --> 00:38:52

everything he had previously said. I mean, of

00:38:52 --> 00:38:53

course, this is not a historical argument, but

00:38:53 --> 00:38:56

rather highly subjective, wishful thinking.

00:38:56 --> 00:38:58

Now anti Muslim polemicists,

00:38:59 --> 00:39:02

they love to give, Muslim laypeople, the sort

00:39:02 --> 00:39:03

of general Muslim masses,

00:39:04 --> 00:39:05

the impression

00:39:05 --> 00:39:07

that the tradition of the ulama were not

00:39:07 --> 00:39:09

forthright about these things

00:39:10 --> 00:39:12

7 akhruf, that the ulama were sort of

00:39:12 --> 00:39:14

keeping these things a secret because they were

00:39:14 --> 00:39:15

afraid or embarrassed,

00:39:16 --> 00:39:18

or something that this would somehow compromise the

00:39:18 --> 00:39:19

preservation of the Quran,

00:39:20 --> 00:39:22

or that the ulama lied to them and

00:39:22 --> 00:39:23

said that the Quran

00:39:24 --> 00:39:26

was a uniformic text. This is totally false.

00:39:26 --> 00:39:29

All of the seminal kutu of ulamaul Quran,

00:39:29 --> 00:39:32

all of the seminal texts of the sciences

00:39:32 --> 00:39:34

of the Quran written by the traditional ulama

00:39:34 --> 00:39:36

of Ahlus Suna wal Jama'ah

00:39:36 --> 00:39:39

have a section or a chapter on akhruf

00:39:39 --> 00:39:40

and and qira'at.

00:39:40 --> 00:39:43

Okay? This is not some secret teaching that

00:39:43 --> 00:39:45

Muslim scholars have been covering up,

00:39:45 --> 00:39:48

only to be uncovered by these honest and

00:39:48 --> 00:39:49

brave orientalists.

00:39:50 --> 00:39:52

No. The 7 akhruf have nothing to do

00:39:52 --> 00:39:54

with the preservation of the Quran. None of

00:39:54 --> 00:39:56

the ulama who wrote about the akhruf said

00:39:56 --> 00:39:57

that the Quran was not preserved.

00:39:58 --> 00:40:00

Traditional scholars are proud of the fact that

00:40:00 --> 00:40:02

the Quran was revealed. They

00:40:03 --> 00:40:06

praise God that the Quran was revealed.

00:40:07 --> 00:40:09

This is an amazing

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and beautiful and elegant and unique aspect of

00:40:13 --> 00:40:15

the Quran. I will get into some examples.

00:40:15 --> 00:40:16

But here here's a quote from the late

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M. M. Al Adami,

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Rahimullah Ta'ala, from his fantastic book, and I

00:40:20 --> 00:40:22

recommend this book, The History of the Qur'anic

00:40:22 --> 00:40:26

Text. He says, although contemporary scholars outside of

00:40:26 --> 00:40:28

the Islamic text context

00:40:28 --> 00:40:29

have offered a range

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of imaginative Yes, there it is. Imaginative interpretations

00:40:33 --> 00:40:35

to get to the quote, real Quran. Those

00:40:35 --> 00:40:37

unfamiliar with the Islamic intellectual tradition should remember

00:40:37 --> 00:40:39

that every last quote, variant

00:40:39 --> 00:40:42

or alternate reading used as evidence that the

00:40:42 --> 00:40:44

classical Islamic account is inaccurate

00:40:44 --> 00:40:46

comes out from the Islamic

00:40:46 --> 00:40:47

intellectual

00:40:47 --> 00:40:48

tradition itself.

00:40:49 --> 00:40:51

Yeah. Okay. And if I can just, just

00:40:51 --> 00:40:54

to show, people, the copy of this book

00:40:54 --> 00:40:55

is actually a second edition,

00:40:56 --> 00:40:58

that's, recently come out. And just to give

00:40:58 --> 00:41:00

it its full title because it's quite significant,

00:41:01 --> 00:41:03

the history of the chronic text from revelation

00:41:03 --> 00:41:04

to compilation,

00:41:04 --> 00:41:08

a comparative study with the Old and New

00:41:08 --> 00:41:08

Testaments.

00:41:08 --> 00:41:10

So this is really as germane to your

00:41:10 --> 00:41:12

point. This is the second edition.

00:41:13 --> 00:41:15

I I do recommend it, obviously, as you

00:41:15 --> 00:41:15

do.

00:41:16 --> 00:41:18

Yes. Yeah. It's an excellent text. Excellent text.

00:41:20 --> 00:41:23

And he also, has several articles that you

00:41:23 --> 00:41:24

can find on on this topic.

00:41:26 --> 00:41:28

Okay. Let's go to the next one here.

00:41:30 --> 00:41:31

So

00:41:33 --> 00:41:35

what exactly are the? Okay. This is a

00:41:35 --> 00:41:37

this is a very important question. There is

00:41:37 --> 00:41:39

a difference of opinion as to exactly,

00:41:39 --> 00:41:42

what they are. Okay? But they are there.

00:41:42 --> 00:41:43

I mean, there's no doubt about this, and

00:41:43 --> 00:41:46

some opinions are stronger than others. Imam Suyuti

00:41:46 --> 00:41:48

lays out these opinions in his master piece

00:41:48 --> 00:41:48

called,

00:41:49 --> 00:41:49

Al Itkam.

00:41:52 --> 00:41:53

And

00:41:55 --> 00:41:57

variations of these opinions. So one opinion is

00:41:57 --> 00:41:59

that they are 7 dialects of Arabic.

00:42:00 --> 00:42:02

Right? So Abu Urbeid Qasem ibn Salam,

00:42:03 --> 00:42:05

he said that the 7 Afrof are 7

00:42:05 --> 00:42:07

dialects of Arabic. This is not a strong

00:42:07 --> 00:42:08

opinion, however.

00:42:08 --> 00:42:09

The second opinion is

00:42:10 --> 00:42:12

that the Ashraf are 7 potential variations

00:42:13 --> 00:42:15

to any one word in the Quran. So,

00:42:15 --> 00:42:17

any one word could have a maximum of

00:42:17 --> 00:42:17

7

00:42:18 --> 00:42:19

different forms.

00:42:19 --> 00:42:21

I believe this was Imam Tabari's opinion.

00:42:22 --> 00:42:25

The 3rd opinion, the akhruf are 7 categories

00:42:25 --> 00:42:28

of recitational variance in the Quran. So this

00:42:28 --> 00:42:29

is the opinion of Abu

00:42:30 --> 00:42:31

father Arazi,

00:42:31 --> 00:42:35

even Qutayba, Imam Al Jazari, the akhruf are

00:42:35 --> 00:42:37

7 categories of recitational variance.

00:42:38 --> 00:42:40

Although different scholars have some slight differences in

00:42:40 --> 00:42:41

their final categorizations,

00:42:42 --> 00:42:44

this is perhaps the strongest opinion. The 7

00:42:44 --> 00:42:47

ahroof are 7 categories of recitational variants in

00:42:47 --> 00:42:49

the Quran that were all recited by the

00:42:49 --> 00:42:51

prophet or approved by the prophet.

00:42:52 --> 00:42:52

So,

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let's look at a a few examples here

00:42:55 --> 00:42:55

then.

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So there is nominal variation. So this is

00:43:00 --> 00:43:02

one haraf. Okay? This is one,

00:43:03 --> 00:43:04

type of variation

00:43:05 --> 00:43:08

called nominal variation. And so the classic example,

00:43:08 --> 00:43:09

right, is in al Fatiha,

00:43:11 --> 00:43:14

Malik yomideen and Malik yomideen, right? That Allah

00:43:14 --> 00:43:16

subhanahu wa ta'ala is both owner and king

00:43:16 --> 00:43:17

of the day of judgment. So what's the

00:43:17 --> 00:43:19

difference? Well, you see a king,

00:43:19 --> 00:43:22

may rule and set laws over a kingdom,

00:43:22 --> 00:43:24

but he may not necessarily own everything.

00:43:24 --> 00:43:26

And then the owner may own something, but

00:43:26 --> 00:43:27

may not necessarily

00:43:27 --> 00:43:29

rule over anything. So

00:43:30 --> 00:43:33

Allah is both owner and king. He rules

00:43:33 --> 00:43:34

and owns everything.

00:43:34 --> 00:43:37

The prophet recited it both ways. We know

00:43:37 --> 00:43:39

this. We've known this for 1400 years, But

00:43:39 --> 00:43:41

the skeptic will say, well, how do you

00:43:41 --> 00:43:43

know the prophet recited it both ways?

00:43:44 --> 00:43:46

This just seems like Muslims are trying to

00:43:46 --> 00:43:47

cover up a discrepancy

00:43:48 --> 00:43:49

in their book. So this

00:43:50 --> 00:43:52

can be answered using common sense. We don't

00:43:52 --> 00:43:53

need to rattle off, you know, SNE, the

00:43:53 --> 00:43:55

change of transmission for this.

00:43:55 --> 00:43:58

The prophet recited it both ways is as

00:43:58 --> 00:44:00

factual as saying Thomas Jefferson was the 3rd

00:44:00 --> 00:44:01

president,

00:44:01 --> 00:44:04

of the United States, or Caesar Augustus was

00:44:04 --> 00:44:06

the 1st Roman emperor. I mean, people can

00:44:06 --> 00:44:08

question these things if they want, and and

00:44:08 --> 00:44:09

there are people who always do.

00:44:10 --> 00:44:12

But let's let's ask a basic question.

00:44:13 --> 00:44:15

How many times did the companions of the

00:44:15 --> 00:44:18

prophet hear the prophet recite al Fatiha?

00:44:19 --> 00:44:19

Right.

00:44:20 --> 00:44:21

Let's think about this.

00:44:21 --> 00:44:22

The 5 daily prayers

00:44:22 --> 00:44:24

were mandated in the 8th year of the

00:44:24 --> 00:44:25

Meccan period.

00:44:26 --> 00:44:28

Al Fatiha must be recited in every prayer

00:44:28 --> 00:44:31

cycle. Everybody knows this. So the prophet led

00:44:31 --> 00:44:34

the Sahaba in prayer for 15 years. Okay.

00:44:34 --> 00:44:37

So 15 times 354 days, the lunar year,

00:44:37 --> 00:44:38

comes out to 5,310

00:44:39 --> 00:44:39

days.

00:44:40 --> 00:44:43

3 of the daily prayers are audible in

00:44:43 --> 00:44:46

their first two cycles, Fajr Mahlra B'nisha.

00:44:46 --> 00:44:48

Okay? So they would have heard the Fatiha

00:44:48 --> 00:44:50

6 times a day

00:44:50 --> 00:44:52

from the prophet. So 5,310

00:44:53 --> 00:44:56

days times 6 recitations a day equals nearly

00:44:56 --> 00:44:56

32,000

00:44:57 --> 00:44:57

recitations

00:44:58 --> 00:44:59

of Al Fatiha.

00:44:59 --> 00:45:02

The Sahaba heard the prophet recite Al Fatiha

00:45:02 --> 00:45:03

32,000

00:45:03 --> 00:45:04

times

00:45:04 --> 00:45:06

over the course of 15 years. And this

00:45:06 --> 00:45:08

is not counting the times the prophet recited

00:45:09 --> 00:45:09

Al Fatiha

00:45:10 --> 00:45:13

in Friday prayer, in e prayers, or outside

00:45:13 --> 00:45:15

of prayer in conversations, lectures, and sermons. So,

00:45:15 --> 00:45:17

did the companions of the prophet really get

00:45:17 --> 00:45:19

Al Fatiha wrong?

00:45:19 --> 00:45:21

Was was there really a difference of opinion

00:45:21 --> 00:45:23

as to whether the prophets had Malik or

00:45:23 --> 00:45:26

Malik? Did they really transfer this uncertainty to

00:45:26 --> 00:45:27

their to their students?

00:45:28 --> 00:45:28

This is ridiculous.

00:45:29 --> 00:45:30

He obviously

00:45:30 --> 00:45:33

recited it both ways. The Quran was and

00:45:33 --> 00:45:36

continues to be a mass transmitted living tradition.

00:45:37 --> 00:45:39

It was constantly heard, recited, and memorized

00:45:40 --> 00:45:40

every day

00:45:41 --> 00:45:42

since its inception

00:45:42 --> 00:45:43

by dozens,

00:45:43 --> 00:45:47

100, 1,000, 1,000,000, now billions of people. But

00:45:47 --> 00:45:49

the madness doesn't end here.

00:45:50 --> 00:45:52

Some orientalists and modern Christian polemicists

00:45:52 --> 00:45:54

even go further into the Twilight zone.

00:45:55 --> 00:45:57

They claim that Abdullah ibn Mas'ud, one of

00:45:57 --> 00:45:58

the companions of the prophet,

00:45:59 --> 00:46:01

did not even believe that Al Fatiha was

00:46:01 --> 00:46:02

part of the Quran.

00:46:03 --> 00:46:05

And and this is ridiculous beyond comprehension.

00:46:06 --> 00:46:09

Harvard's own doctor Shadi Nasr makes this claim.

00:46:09 --> 00:46:10

I'll come back to this issue,

00:46:11 --> 00:46:11

inshallah.

00:46:12 --> 00:46:14

We'll talk about that. Okay. So I mentioned

00:46:14 --> 00:46:16

a nominal variation as one haraf. There's also

00:46:16 --> 00:46:17

inflectional variation.

00:46:22 --> 00:46:24

Theological and a practical purpose.

00:46:24 --> 00:46:27

So with respect to practice, okay, Allah Subhanahu

00:46:27 --> 00:46:29

Wa Ta'ala says, wam sahubirusikum

00:46:30 --> 00:46:31

marajulikum,

00:46:32 --> 00:46:33

sorry, wam

00:46:33 --> 00:46:34

sahubirusikum

00:46:34 --> 00:46:35

arjulikum.

00:46:36 --> 00:46:38

So, anoint or

00:46:38 --> 00:46:40

wipe your heads and wash your feet. This

00:46:40 --> 00:46:42

is for Wudu, right? For

00:46:42 --> 00:46:43

illustrations

00:46:43 --> 00:46:44

or

00:46:44 --> 00:46:45

ablutions before prayer.

00:46:46 --> 00:46:47

He also says,

00:46:51 --> 00:46:53

Wipe your heads and wipe your feet. Okay.

00:46:53 --> 00:46:56

So, this Haraf is called inflectional variation. You

00:46:56 --> 00:46:56

see, generally,

00:46:57 --> 00:46:59

we wash our feet, but there are circumstances

00:46:59 --> 00:47:01

where we can wipe our feet.

00:47:01 --> 00:47:03

When do we do that? Well, we look

00:47:03 --> 00:47:05

to the sunnah, the normative practice of the

00:47:05 --> 00:47:07

prophet Muhammad, peace be upon him. Allah Subhanahu

00:47:07 --> 00:47:10

Wa Ta'ala, he could have revealed another verse

00:47:11 --> 00:47:12

that said wipe your feet, but he didn't

00:47:12 --> 00:47:15

do that. He inspired the prophet to recite

00:47:15 --> 00:47:17

the same verse but with a slight adjustment.

00:47:17 --> 00:47:20

He inspired the prophet with another form of

00:47:20 --> 00:47:23

the verse. Okay? And this other form gives

00:47:23 --> 00:47:26

us an additional meaning. This is a very

00:47:26 --> 00:47:28

elegant aspect, a beautiful aspect

00:47:29 --> 00:47:29

of the Quran.

00:47:31 --> 00:47:32

With respect to belief,

00:47:33 --> 00:47:35

chapter 19 verse 34 of the Quran says,

00:47:42 --> 00:47:43

that such was Jesus,

00:47:44 --> 00:47:45

the son of Mary.

00:47:45 --> 00:47:47

Okay? It is it is the word of

00:47:47 --> 00:47:49

truth about which they vainly dispute.

00:47:50 --> 00:47:51

So here the word Qaul

00:47:52 --> 00:47:53

is read in the accusative

00:47:53 --> 00:47:54

Qaulalhaq,

00:47:55 --> 00:47:57

meaning the aforementioned

00:47:57 --> 00:47:59

statement about Jesus

00:47:59 --> 00:48:00

is the true account.

00:48:01 --> 00:48:03

The Christological teaching found in

00:48:04 --> 00:48:07

the preceding verses presents the true Jesus, that

00:48:07 --> 00:48:07

Jesus

00:48:08 --> 00:48:10

is Nabiullah, a prophet of God.

00:48:10 --> 00:48:11

He's Abdullah,

00:48:12 --> 00:48:14

a servant of God, not the son of

00:48:14 --> 00:48:16

God. That Jesus it says is Mubarak, He's

00:48:16 --> 00:48:19

blessed, He's not Madron, He's not Accursed as

00:48:19 --> 00:48:21

Paul says in Galatians.

00:48:22 --> 00:48:23

He's not a deceiver and

00:48:24 --> 00:48:24

blasphemer

00:48:25 --> 00:48:28

as the Talmud says. Now, this same verse,

00:48:28 --> 00:48:28

1934,

00:48:29 --> 00:48:30

is also read

00:48:34 --> 00:48:36

Here, the word Kol is read in the

00:48:36 --> 00:48:37

nominative,

00:48:37 --> 00:48:38

Qaululhaq.

00:48:39 --> 00:48:42

So now, the verse means, such was Jesus,

00:48:42 --> 00:48:43

the son of Mary,

00:48:44 --> 00:48:46

he is the word of truth about which

00:48:46 --> 00:48:49

they are vainly disputing. Jesus is the word

00:48:49 --> 00:48:50

of Al

00:48:50 --> 00:48:52

Haqq, the word of Allah, which is an

00:48:52 --> 00:48:54

honorific title. It's Taqqrini,

00:48:55 --> 00:48:57

which means honorific as Imam Al Razi explains,

00:48:57 --> 00:49:00

if someone is known for his generosity, we

00:49:00 --> 00:49:02

can say that he is generosity itself,

00:49:02 --> 00:49:05

Right? It's figurative. So Jesus was totally truthful

00:49:05 --> 00:49:08

in his speech. Why? Because all of his

00:49:08 --> 00:49:10

speech was wacky. It was revelation. He only

00:49:10 --> 00:49:12

spoke the words of god. Therefore, he's called

00:49:12 --> 00:49:14

the word of God as a way of

00:49:14 --> 00:49:16

honoring and praising him. Why does the Quran

00:49:16 --> 00:49:18

praise him in this way and emphasize his

00:49:18 --> 00:49:19

truthfulness?

00:49:19 --> 00:49:23

Probably because the new testament ascribes to Jesus

00:49:23 --> 00:49:24

false prophecies.

00:49:24 --> 00:49:25

That is to say falsifiable

00:49:26 --> 00:49:28

predictions. We talked about this in our last

00:49:28 --> 00:49:30

podcast we looked at the son of man,

00:49:31 --> 00:49:33

the new testament ascribes to him falsifiable predictions

00:49:33 --> 00:49:34

and blasphemy

00:49:34 --> 00:49:36

while the while the tongue load ascribes to

00:49:36 --> 00:49:38

him deception and and sorcery.

00:49:39 --> 00:49:41

So in this honorific way, Jesus is the

00:49:41 --> 00:49:43

word of god in the Quran, not in

00:49:43 --> 00:49:46

the neoplatonic or trinitarian sense where he is

00:49:46 --> 00:49:49

the pre eternal logos who emanated from the

00:49:49 --> 00:49:49

very being

00:49:50 --> 00:49:51

of an ontologically

00:49:52 --> 00:49:54

or hypothetically superior deity.

00:49:55 --> 00:49:55

The Quran says,

00:49:57 --> 00:49:59

So this is negating Allah and Ma'alulia.

00:49:59 --> 00:50:02

In other words, God did not cause or

00:50:02 --> 00:50:02

beget

00:50:03 --> 00:50:05

a person or son from his own being

00:50:05 --> 00:50:06

in pre eternality,

00:50:07 --> 00:50:09

nor was God the effect of any logically

00:50:11 --> 00:50:12

prior cause. And I think essentially the Quran

00:50:12 --> 00:50:13

here is repudiating

00:50:14 --> 00:50:15

the Nicene creed.

00:50:16 --> 00:50:18

So we see how the Ahroof enrich

00:50:19 --> 00:50:21

the meanings of the Quran. Okay. This is

00:50:21 --> 00:50:21

an aspect

00:50:22 --> 00:50:24

of the utter uniqueness of the Quran.

00:50:24 --> 00:50:26

And then, of course, the first I think

00:50:26 --> 00:50:28

this is a beautiful point. Is is it

00:50:28 --> 00:50:28

intellectually beautiful, and it enriches, one's

00:50:35 --> 00:50:37

a more kind of one dimensional,

00:50:38 --> 00:50:39

understanding which,

00:50:39 --> 00:50:42

some people have. So this actually, elevates, as

00:50:42 --> 00:50:44

you say, is a more elegant understanding of

00:50:44 --> 00:50:46

the revelation, and it is a cause for

00:50:46 --> 00:50:48

wonder, I suppose, a cause for

00:50:49 --> 00:50:51

appreciation and wonder rather than,

00:50:51 --> 00:50:53

seeing it as a problem. It's something we

00:50:53 --> 00:50:56

we need to raise our expectations of of

00:50:56 --> 00:50:56

the the word.

00:50:57 --> 00:50:58

We'll see it in that morning the way

00:50:58 --> 00:51:00

that we have perhaps before.

00:51:01 --> 00:51:02

Yeah. It is it is something you know,

00:51:02 --> 00:51:04

the Quran is sui generis, and we'll talk

00:51:04 --> 00:51:06

about Yeah. The style of the Quran. We'll

00:51:06 --> 00:51:09

talk about the, you know, the, sort of

00:51:09 --> 00:51:11

the the ajaz, what's known as the ajaz

00:51:11 --> 00:51:12

of the Quran,

00:51:12 --> 00:51:13

the incapacitating

00:51:14 --> 00:51:16

nature of the Quran discourse. This is just

00:51:16 --> 00:51:18

another aspect of its utter uniqueness.

00:51:18 --> 00:51:20

If something is a sui generis, if something

00:51:20 --> 00:51:21

is one of a kind, obviously, there's going

00:51:21 --> 00:51:23

to be things that are going to be

00:51:23 --> 00:51:25

strange for people to to understand. But this

00:51:25 --> 00:51:27

is part of that uniqueness that the Quran

00:51:27 --> 00:51:29

revealed in 7 akhruf.

00:51:29 --> 00:51:30

Okay? And

00:51:31 --> 00:51:32

here's a here's another,

00:51:32 --> 00:51:34

a third type of akhruf is called dialectical

00:51:34 --> 00:51:35

variation.

00:51:36 --> 00:51:38

So let's go here too. Yeah. So this

00:51:38 --> 00:51:39

is in in, Al Ikhlas

00:51:39 --> 00:51:41

in Sura 112

00:51:41 --> 00:51:43

which gives our theology in brief.

00:51:43 --> 00:51:45

So Allah subhanahu wa ta'ala says,

00:51:54 --> 00:51:54

Okay.

00:51:55 --> 00:51:57

So why does it do this? Well, you

00:51:57 --> 00:51:59

see the Arab was the first standard bearer

00:51:59 --> 00:52:00

of the religion.

00:52:01 --> 00:52:04

So god naturally facilitated things for him and

00:52:04 --> 00:52:06

revealed certain words and phrases,

00:52:07 --> 00:52:09

in different Arab dialects. The

00:52:10 --> 00:52:10

the

00:52:11 --> 00:52:13

the Arab is going to take this message

00:52:13 --> 00:52:14

to the world. Right? This is the wisdom

00:52:14 --> 00:52:17

behind, this harf. The Quran says,

00:52:22 --> 00:52:24

Thus, we have revealed to you an Arabic

00:52:24 --> 00:52:26

Quran, an Arabic recital, in order for you

00:52:26 --> 00:52:27

to admonish

00:52:28 --> 00:52:30

the mother of the cities, meaning Mecca,

00:52:31 --> 00:52:32

and those around it.

00:52:34 --> 00:52:37

The 4th harf is, is called synonymic variation,

00:52:37 --> 00:52:41

synonymic variation. So, in 49 6th the Quran,

00:52:41 --> 00:52:43

Allah Subhanahu Wa Ta'ala says, You ayu hil

00:52:43 --> 00:52:43

ladheenaamanu.

00:52:44 --> 00:52:46

Inja'akum fasikun binaba infatabeyanu.

00:52:47 --> 00:52:48

Oh you who believe,

00:52:48 --> 00:52:50

if an immoral person brings you any

00:52:51 --> 00:52:51

news,

00:52:52 --> 00:52:54

investigate to, investigate the truth.

00:52:55 --> 00:52:57

The same verse is read.

00:53:01 --> 00:53:04

Oh, you who believe, if an immoral person

00:53:04 --> 00:53:07

brings you any news, ascertain the truth. So

00:53:07 --> 00:53:09

this is called synonymic variation. So

00:53:09 --> 00:53:10

investigate the

00:53:11 --> 00:53:14

manner, investigate the matter, ascertain the truth. Both

00:53:14 --> 00:53:16

are true. Make tabbi, make tabbi. Either one

00:53:16 --> 00:53:18

can be bread and prayer because they both

00:53:18 --> 00:53:21

conform to the Uthmani Rasam, the continental

00:53:21 --> 00:53:23

skeleton, the shorthand text

00:53:23 --> 00:53:26

of the Uthmani codices, and both are authorized

00:53:26 --> 00:53:27

through senate, through transmission.

00:53:28 --> 00:53:30

So you see the original Uthmani codices, and

00:53:30 --> 00:53:32

and we'll get into the narrative here of

00:53:32 --> 00:53:33

the Uthmani codices,

00:53:33 --> 00:53:36

did not have dots or vowel notations. Okay.

00:53:36 --> 00:53:37

No dots, no vowels,

00:53:38 --> 00:53:38

no.

00:53:39 --> 00:53:39

Right?

00:53:41 --> 00:53:42

No you know, we see.

00:53:43 --> 00:53:44

So

00:53:45 --> 00:53:47

are 2 authorized renditions

00:53:48 --> 00:53:50

of the skeletal of the continental

00:53:50 --> 00:53:51

skeleton,

00:53:52 --> 00:53:52

of the Uthmanitechtual

00:53:53 --> 00:53:53

tradition,

00:53:54 --> 00:53:57

and the remaining are verbal, particular, and syntactical

00:53:57 --> 00:53:58

variations. But I think the examples,

00:53:59 --> 00:54:00

given are, sufficient.

00:54:01 --> 00:54:02

Mhmm. Now

00:54:02 --> 00:54:05

now Muslim scholars have described at length,

00:54:06 --> 00:54:08

in the books of Ulum al Quran

00:54:08 --> 00:54:10

that there are several readings

00:54:11 --> 00:54:14

in pre Uthmanic companion codices

00:54:14 --> 00:54:16

that differed in their Rasam,

00:54:16 --> 00:54:18

in their textual traditions

00:54:18 --> 00:54:21

from the Uthmani Rasam. Okay. So, let's talk

00:54:21 --> 00:54:24

about the history of the Uthmanic textual tradition,

00:54:24 --> 00:54:27

and make sense of these companion codices.

00:54:29 --> 00:54:29

Okay.

00:54:30 --> 00:54:33

So what happened between the revelation of the

00:54:33 --> 00:54:33

Quran

00:54:34 --> 00:54:35

and the standardization

00:54:35 --> 00:54:37

of the Uthmani textual tradition?

00:54:38 --> 00:54:40

So the prophet recited the Quran in prayers

00:54:40 --> 00:54:41

and in lectures

00:54:41 --> 00:54:43

for 23 years,

00:54:44 --> 00:54:45

upon the 7 Ahref,

00:54:46 --> 00:54:48

he recited the Quran as a multiformic text.

00:54:49 --> 00:54:50

Various companions

00:54:51 --> 00:54:54

went home and recorded what they heard from

00:54:54 --> 00:54:55

him, in their personal codices.

00:54:56 --> 00:54:58

Okay. So these included Abdullah ibn Mas'ud,

00:54:59 --> 00:55:00

Ubay ibn Nukab,

00:55:01 --> 00:55:02

Abdullah ibn Abbas,

00:55:03 --> 00:55:05

the author of C1, the author of the

00:55:05 --> 00:55:06

senna palimpsest,

00:55:06 --> 00:55:08

whom we can call Companion X,

00:55:08 --> 00:55:10

and others. So these are the

00:55:11 --> 00:55:12

companion codices.

00:55:12 --> 00:55:14

So we have these various text

00:55:14 --> 00:55:16

types or textual traditions. This is a term

00:55:16 --> 00:55:18

used by doctor Haytham Siddiqui.

00:55:18 --> 00:55:22

The textual tradition of Ibn Mas'ud, the textual

00:55:22 --> 00:55:25

tradition of Ibn Kaab, the textual tradition of

00:55:25 --> 00:55:25

Ibn Abbas,

00:55:26 --> 00:55:29

the textual tradition of of companion x, the

00:55:29 --> 00:55:31

the author of 1.

00:55:33 --> 00:55:34

So according to Muslim sources,

00:55:35 --> 00:55:37

during the prophet's time, there was widespread

00:55:38 --> 00:55:39

memorization of the Quran,

00:55:40 --> 00:55:42

scribal recordings of the Quran,

00:55:43 --> 00:55:46

and an annual review of the Quran every

00:55:46 --> 00:55:47

Ramadan with the archangel Gabriel.

00:55:48 --> 00:55:49

This review is called Al Mu'arada.

00:55:51 --> 00:55:53

If historians are hesitant to accept the latter,

00:55:53 --> 00:55:55

that's fine. But certainly, it is a fact

00:55:55 --> 00:55:58

that in the prophet's time, the recitation of

00:55:58 --> 00:55:59

the Quran was widespread,

00:56:00 --> 00:56:02

and it was being written down. Even Shati

00:56:02 --> 00:56:04

Nasr concedes to this that the prophet had

00:56:04 --> 00:56:05

scribes, kuttabalwahi.

00:56:06 --> 00:56:09

Now the vast, vast majority of the texts

00:56:09 --> 00:56:10

of these

00:56:11 --> 00:56:13

companion codices were in total agreement.

00:56:14 --> 00:56:16

However, according to our literary tradition, there were

00:56:16 --> 00:56:18

some minor differences between

00:56:19 --> 00:56:21

them. And our traditional scholars wrote at length

00:56:22 --> 00:56:24

about these differences. Okay? They did not see

00:56:24 --> 00:56:24

this

00:56:25 --> 00:56:27

as a problem of preservation

00:56:28 --> 00:56:29

at all.

00:56:30 --> 00:56:30

Our

00:56:31 --> 00:56:34

classical tradition can easily account for these differences.

00:56:35 --> 00:56:36

We can say that they cause they can

00:56:36 --> 00:56:38

say that they differed because of of four

00:56:38 --> 00:56:41

things. Okay? So various orthographies,

00:56:41 --> 00:56:43

in other words, the companions

00:56:43 --> 00:56:46

spelled words in different ways. They used different

00:56:46 --> 00:56:47

spelling conventions. Right?

00:56:48 --> 00:56:49

Like, you know, Paul, you're in the UK.

00:56:49 --> 00:56:50

You would spell colored

00:56:51 --> 00:56:52

differently than me. You'd spell it with a

00:56:52 --> 00:56:54

u. I don't use a u. There's many

00:56:54 --> 00:56:56

examples like this. It's still English. This does

00:56:56 --> 00:56:57

not affect the meaning whatsoever.

00:56:58 --> 00:57:00

Number 2, variance

00:57:00 --> 00:57:02

due to the revealed akhruv

00:57:02 --> 00:57:04

where the rasem was different, and I'll give

00:57:04 --> 00:57:05

you possible

00:57:05 --> 00:57:06

examples later.

00:57:07 --> 00:57:10

Number 3, scribal errors, you know, just kind

00:57:10 --> 00:57:10

of misremembering

00:57:11 --> 00:57:14

the exact syntax or the exact wording. I'll

00:57:14 --> 00:57:16

give you possible examples of that. And then

00:57:16 --> 00:57:18

number 4, differences due to exegetical

00:57:18 --> 00:57:20

glosses or notes made by companions

00:57:21 --> 00:57:22

in their personal codices.

00:57:23 --> 00:57:25

And I'll give you possible examples,

00:57:25 --> 00:57:26

of that as well.

00:57:27 --> 00:57:28

But let's continue the narrative here.

00:57:29 --> 00:57:29

Okay.

00:57:30 --> 00:57:31

So so

00:57:31 --> 00:57:33

various companions, they go out into the Muslim

00:57:33 --> 00:57:36

world, the newly conquered lands. This was before

00:57:36 --> 00:57:37

the othmanic standardization,

00:57:37 --> 00:57:40

so prior to 650 of the common era.

00:57:40 --> 00:57:42

And they take their textual traditions with them.

00:57:42 --> 00:57:45

So, Ibn Mas'ud goes to Iraq, Ubay ibn

00:57:45 --> 00:57:46

Nukab goes to Syria,

00:57:47 --> 00:57:49

and companion X goes to Yemen.

00:57:49 --> 00:57:52

Okay? So multitudes of people now are becoming

00:57:52 --> 00:57:53

Muslim in these lands.

00:57:54 --> 00:57:55

And at some point, the Muslims in these

00:57:55 --> 00:57:59

lands outside of Medina begin to become aware

00:57:59 --> 00:58:02

of or come into contact with other textual

00:58:02 --> 00:58:03

traditions.

00:58:03 --> 00:58:05

Okay. Textual traditions that they

00:58:06 --> 00:58:07

did not know about,

00:58:08 --> 00:58:11

and these traditions are slightly different

00:58:11 --> 00:58:13

than what they were taught by their teachers.

00:58:13 --> 00:58:15

So, this caused major unrest in these provinces.

00:58:16 --> 00:58:17

Now, the caliph Uthman

00:58:19 --> 00:58:21

is informed of this unrest. So, he forms

00:58:21 --> 00:58:23

his codex committee in Medina

00:58:23 --> 00:58:26

around 650 of the common era, possibly a

00:58:26 --> 00:58:27

few years earlier.

00:58:27 --> 00:58:29

So, he then attempted to recall

00:58:30 --> 00:58:33

all of these various manuscripts floating around the

00:58:33 --> 00:58:34

provinces

00:58:34 --> 00:58:36

because he is going to standardize the text

00:58:37 --> 00:58:40

based upon the dominant readings of the Quran

00:58:40 --> 00:58:41

in Medina at that time.

00:58:42 --> 00:58:44

He's going to standardize the text based upon

00:58:44 --> 00:58:46

the dominant readings of the Quran in Medina

00:58:46 --> 00:58:48

at that time. In other words, the most

00:58:48 --> 00:58:50

prevalent readings of the companions.

00:58:50 --> 00:58:53

Okay? He's also going to write the Rasam,

00:58:53 --> 00:58:55

the continental skeleton, the shorthand text of the

00:58:55 --> 00:58:56

Quran,

00:58:56 --> 00:58:58

in the orthography, the spelling conventions

00:58:59 --> 00:59:01

of the Qurayshi dialect of Arabic because this

00:59:01 --> 00:59:03

was the prophet's tribe and the majority of

00:59:03 --> 00:59:05

the Quran was revealed in this dialect.

00:59:05 --> 00:59:07

So these actions

00:59:07 --> 00:59:08

more or less

00:59:08 --> 00:59:10

stabilize the text once and for all.

00:59:11 --> 00:59:13

Now, Haitham Sichdi and Van Putten and Ben

00:59:13 --> 00:59:16

Am Sadithi and Marzens Podavas, they all suggest

00:59:16 --> 00:59:17

that

00:59:17 --> 00:59:19

the Uthmani textual tradition

00:59:20 --> 00:59:22

was likely a critical addition itself.

00:59:22 --> 00:59:24

And I think this is consistent with our

00:59:24 --> 00:59:25

narrative.

00:59:25 --> 00:59:28

In other words, the Uthmani textual tradition was

00:59:28 --> 00:59:29

drawn out

00:59:29 --> 00:59:30

from the various

00:59:31 --> 00:59:34

companion textual traditions that were present in Medina.

00:59:34 --> 00:59:36

So the companion Zaydib Nufabit,

00:59:37 --> 00:59:38

right, he calls for these manuscripts,

00:59:39 --> 00:59:41

and they were checked against each other, then

00:59:41 --> 00:59:44

checked against the the memories of the hafav,

00:59:44 --> 00:59:46

the memorizers and masters of the Quran who

00:59:46 --> 00:59:49

had served on the codex committee. And only

00:59:49 --> 00:59:51

those readings that were the most

00:59:51 --> 00:59:53

widespread and popular

00:59:53 --> 00:59:55

were recorded in the various of money codices

00:59:55 --> 00:59:57

that would be sent out into the regional

00:59:57 --> 00:59:59

provinces, the Amsar.

00:59:59 --> 01:00:00

Okay?

01:00:01 --> 01:00:03

According to Siftri, Van Putten and Sean Anthony

01:00:03 --> 01:00:03

and others,

01:00:04 --> 01:00:06

all extant Qur'anic manuscripts today

01:00:07 --> 01:00:10

descend from a single text type, the Uthmani

01:00:10 --> 01:00:11

text type,

01:00:12 --> 01:00:14

the Uthmani textual tradition. That is their textual

01:00:14 --> 01:00:16

stemma or textual family.

01:00:16 --> 01:00:18

All extant manuscripts,

01:00:18 --> 01:00:21

except for 1, the lower text of C1.

01:00:21 --> 01:00:22

Okay. The

01:00:23 --> 01:00:24

sun up palimpsest.

01:00:25 --> 01:00:27

But all but all of these scholars maintain

01:00:28 --> 01:00:31

that c one and the Uthmani text type

01:00:31 --> 01:00:32

share a quote common

01:00:41 --> 01:00:43

and we'll say more about it later. Okay?

01:00:44 --> 01:00:45

But I think that with the discovery of

01:00:45 --> 01:00:47

a likely companion codex,

01:00:47 --> 01:00:49

we can now say with a strong degree

01:00:49 --> 01:00:50

of confidence

01:00:52 --> 01:00:54

that the verse order in the companion codices

01:00:54 --> 01:00:56

was very fixed. In other words, the structure

01:00:56 --> 01:00:59

of the Surah was stable, not necessarily the

01:00:59 --> 01:01:00

Surah order,

01:01:00 --> 01:01:02

although the Surah order is generally longest to

01:01:02 --> 01:01:03

shortest.

01:01:03 --> 01:01:04

Okay?

01:01:04 --> 01:01:05

In C1,

01:01:05 --> 01:01:07

2 verses are transposed

01:01:07 --> 01:01:10

and one verse was clearly accidentally skipped. I

01:01:10 --> 01:01:11

mean, these

01:01:11 --> 01:01:13

are scribal errors, but I'll come back to

01:01:13 --> 01:01:15

c one. Okay. So let's look at the

01:01:15 --> 01:01:16

diagram on the slide here.

01:01:17 --> 01:01:18

So the letter p at the top of

01:01:18 --> 01:01:19

the page,

01:01:19 --> 01:01:20

stands for prophetic archetype.

01:01:21 --> 01:01:24

Okay? And represents all of the Quranic recitations

01:01:24 --> 01:01:24

of the prophet

01:01:25 --> 01:01:26

Al Asab Adi Ahroof.

01:01:27 --> 01:01:27

Okay?

01:01:29 --> 01:01:30

There are various arrows

01:01:32 --> 01:01:33

shooting down from p. At the end of

01:01:33 --> 01:01:35

1 arrow, we see I m. That's.

01:01:36 --> 01:01:37

At the end of another arrow, we see

01:01:37 --> 01:01:39

c one. That's the sunnah palimpsest.

01:01:39 --> 01:01:42

And then c 2, c 3, etcetera, etcetera.

01:01:42 --> 01:01:44

Okay. These represent the other companion codices.

01:01:45 --> 01:01:48

These are the various companion textual traditions

01:01:48 --> 01:01:50

that contain minor differences

01:01:52 --> 01:01:54

due to various spelling conventions, variations of the

01:01:54 --> 01:01:55

aroof,

01:01:55 --> 01:01:59

possible scribal errors, and possible exegetical notes. So

01:01:59 --> 01:02:01

this is what Zaid had to work with.

01:02:02 --> 01:02:05

Now under each companion textual tradition, there are

01:02:05 --> 01:02:06

arrows shooting down

01:02:07 --> 01:02:09

but converging upon a single point.

01:02:09 --> 01:02:11

Okay? We can call this point the

01:02:12 --> 01:02:13

Uthmani textual tradition.

01:02:14 --> 01:02:16

So the Uthmani textual tradition

01:02:16 --> 01:02:20

is a critical addition that incorporated the strongest

01:02:20 --> 01:02:20

readings

01:02:21 --> 01:02:24

from the existing companion textual traditions,

01:02:24 --> 01:02:26

which were themselves eyewitness recordings

01:02:27 --> 01:02:29

of the prophetic archetype. So in essence,

01:02:30 --> 01:02:31

the Uthmani textual

01:02:31 --> 01:02:32

tradition was a compilation

01:02:33 --> 01:02:35

of the most widely attested readings of the

01:02:35 --> 01:02:36

prophetic archetype.

01:02:37 --> 01:02:38

The best of the best

01:02:38 --> 01:02:41

gathered from the companion textual traditions in Medina

01:02:41 --> 01:02:44

and checked against the memories of the Quran

01:02:44 --> 01:02:46

memorizers and masters. I mean, the committee could

01:02:46 --> 01:02:48

not have done a better job.

01:02:48 --> 01:02:49

Okay.

01:02:49 --> 01:02:51

The master of money codex

01:02:51 --> 01:02:53

called the Imam manuscript

01:02:53 --> 01:02:55

was then copied at least 3 times

01:02:56 --> 01:02:58

and sent out to the Ansar, right, these

01:02:58 --> 01:03:00

major metropolitan areas.

01:03:01 --> 01:03:02

The the Andalusian scholar,

01:03:03 --> 01:03:04

Abu Amur Adani,

01:03:04 --> 01:03:07

whose book, Al Muknir, is is a major

01:03:07 --> 01:03:08

reference when it comes to,

01:03:09 --> 01:03:09

Qira'at

01:03:10 --> 01:03:11

and and Masahif of the

01:03:12 --> 01:03:14

Quran, manuscripts of the Quran. He he cited

01:03:14 --> 01:03:16

several times in the ifkan by Saudi. Adani

01:03:16 --> 01:03:19

says that there were 4 of money codices.

01:03:19 --> 01:03:21

Okay. So Medina, Kufa, Basra, and

01:03:22 --> 01:03:23

Syria. Okay. But he mentions there could have

01:03:23 --> 01:03:26

been up to 7. Now doctor Sitti conducted

01:03:26 --> 01:03:28

what he called phylogenetic

01:03:28 --> 01:03:30

analysis on these manuscripts,

01:03:30 --> 01:03:31

which is

01:03:31 --> 01:03:33

which is used in biology to track sort

01:03:33 --> 01:03:35

of evolutionary history of organisms.

01:03:36 --> 01:03:38

And so this analysis generated various stemmas or

01:03:38 --> 01:03:40

family trees of of manuscripts.

01:03:40 --> 01:03:42

I don't exactly know how it all works,

01:03:42 --> 01:03:44

but he does. This is some, you know,

01:03:44 --> 01:03:45

cutting edge stuff.

01:03:46 --> 01:03:48

Basically, he analyzed and aggregated

01:03:49 --> 01:03:51

all of the extent Quran manuscripts

01:03:52 --> 01:03:53

that he can get his hands on and

01:03:53 --> 01:03:56

concluded that they all go back to 4

01:03:56 --> 01:03:57

ancestral codices

01:03:57 --> 01:03:59

with the exception of the lower text of

01:03:59 --> 01:04:01

c 1, the sun of palimpsest. Again, I'll

01:04:01 --> 01:04:02

talk about that later in shalom.

01:04:02 --> 01:04:05

So all extant manuscripts with the exception of

01:04:05 --> 01:04:08

c one go back to Medina, Basar Akufa

01:04:08 --> 01:04:09

in Syria.

01:04:09 --> 01:04:11

And based on carbon dating,

01:04:12 --> 01:04:14

the time window, he says, is, quote, consistent

01:04:14 --> 01:04:17

with 650 CE, the time of the caliph

01:04:17 --> 01:04:17

Uthman.

01:04:18 --> 01:04:19

So so Sitti concludes,

01:04:19 --> 01:04:22

as does Van Putten and and others, Nikolai

01:04:22 --> 01:04:23

Sinai,

01:04:23 --> 01:04:26

that the broad strokes, as it were, of

01:04:26 --> 01:04:27

the traditional Muslim narrative

01:04:28 --> 01:04:31

of the Quran standardization by Uthman around 6

01:04:32 --> 01:04:34

50 is historically accurate.

01:04:34 --> 01:04:37

Okay? This is what the physical manuscript evidence

01:04:37 --> 01:04:38

points to. Yep.

01:04:38 --> 01:04:39

Okay?

01:04:39 --> 01:04:41

Doc doctor you're upon. I was just gonna

01:04:41 --> 01:04:44

say Go ahead. Professor Nikolai, Sinai, he's professor

01:04:44 --> 01:04:46

of Islamic Studies University of Oxford. He's one

01:04:46 --> 01:04:47

of the world's leading

01:04:47 --> 01:04:50

authorities on this. He's a German scholar. He's

01:04:50 --> 01:04:52

not a he's not a Muslim, of course.

01:04:52 --> 01:04:54

And his book on historical critical introduction to

01:04:54 --> 01:04:57

the Quran was published last year, which I've

01:04:57 --> 01:04:58

got behind me. I was gonna get it,

01:04:58 --> 01:04:59

but I'm not gonna bother. But,

01:05:00 --> 01:05:00

recommended,

01:05:01 --> 01:05:03

as well. But, yes, he he he endorses

01:05:03 --> 01:05:05

the the standard narrative as you say. So

01:05:05 --> 01:05:06

these are top scholars,

01:05:06 --> 01:05:09

Muslim and non Muslim. There there's a a

01:05:09 --> 01:05:11

consensus, I think, gathering around this point.

01:05:12 --> 01:05:12

Yes.

01:05:13 --> 01:05:15

Yeah. That's that is an excellent text. I

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mean, I highly recommend that for anyone,

01:05:19 --> 01:05:21

who wants to an introduction to higher criticism

01:05:21 --> 01:05:24

of the Quran. It's absolutely fabulous text.

01:05:24 --> 01:05:25

Doctor and and I was gonna say doctor

01:05:25 --> 01:05:26

Nazir Khan,

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He he wrote a very good article,

01:05:29 --> 01:05:31

on the the variance, the variant readings of

01:05:31 --> 01:05:31

the Quran.

01:05:32 --> 01:05:34

He said that the traditional Muslim narrative is

01:05:34 --> 01:05:37

true because, quote, the absence of any compelling

01:05:37 --> 01:05:40

evidence to challenge it as well as, quote,

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the presence of considerable data in its support.

01:05:43 --> 01:05:44

Now now, Sthi,

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he further says that the algorithm suggests

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that the Medina and codex

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is most likely

01:05:52 --> 01:05:55

the Uthmanic archetype. In other words, the Basran,

01:05:55 --> 01:05:57

Kufen, and Himsi or Syrian codices,

01:05:58 --> 01:06:01

were copied from the Madinan. The Madinan codex

01:06:01 --> 01:06:02

was the first codex that was produced.

01:06:03 --> 01:06:06

So all Qur'anic manuscripts today, extant today, go

01:06:06 --> 01:06:07

back to at least 4

01:06:07 --> 01:06:10

Uthmanic codices with the exception of c one.

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But the Uthmanic textual

01:06:12 --> 01:06:14

tradition and the c one textual tradition have

01:06:14 --> 01:06:16

a common ancestor, the prophetic archetype.

01:06:17 --> 01:06:19

The problem with c one, we'll see, however,

01:06:19 --> 01:06:21

was that it contained a few scribal errors,

01:06:22 --> 01:06:23

various spelling conventions,

01:06:23 --> 01:06:26

and readings which were not widely recited among

01:06:26 --> 01:06:28

the Sahaba in Medina. But, again, we'll get

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to that,

01:06:29 --> 01:06:30

Inshallah.

01:06:30 --> 01:06:32

But let's look a little a bit closer.

01:06:33 --> 01:06:35

I said that there were four reasons for

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differences in the companion codices.

01:06:38 --> 01:06:39

So number 1, we said various orthographies.

01:06:41 --> 01:06:43

The companion spelled words in different ways. This

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is completely uncontroversial.

01:06:45 --> 01:06:47

Let's focus on number 2, though. Number 2

01:06:47 --> 01:06:49

is variance in the rasam

01:06:49 --> 01:06:50

due to the.

01:06:51 --> 01:06:51

Okay.

01:06:52 --> 01:06:53

K. So let me give you an example

01:06:53 --> 01:06:54

of this, and then we'll circle back to

01:06:54 --> 01:06:57

numbers 3 and 4, scribal errors and and

01:06:57 --> 01:06:57

exegetical

01:06:57 --> 01:06:58

notes.

01:06:59 --> 01:07:02

So the top of this slide says skeletal,

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that is Rasmi,

01:07:04 --> 01:07:07

variance in the textual tradition of

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of ibn Mas'ud. Right? It's not extant.

01:07:17 --> 01:07:18

Okay?

01:07:19 --> 01:07:20

The only potential

01:07:20 --> 01:07:22

potential companion codices,

01:07:22 --> 01:07:24

that we have are c one and the

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Birmingham manuscript. I mean, we have no external

01:07:27 --> 01:07:27

evidence

01:07:27 --> 01:07:29

of Ibn Mas'ud's Mus'haf, his codex.

01:07:30 --> 01:07:32

Okay. C1 is definitely not his codex. Now

01:07:32 --> 01:07:35

I should mention, some contemporary Muslim scholars have

01:07:35 --> 01:07:37

argued that there never was a Mus'af of

01:07:37 --> 01:07:39

of ibn Mas'ud. Okay. This is an opinion.

01:07:39 --> 01:07:42

And and Al Abami, he explains this argument

01:07:42 --> 01:07:44

in his, in chapter 13 of his book,

01:07:44 --> 01:07:46

the history of the Quranic text. Chapter 13

01:07:46 --> 01:07:48

is called the so called Mus'af of Ibn

01:07:48 --> 01:07:49

Mas'ud

01:07:49 --> 01:07:51

and alleged variances therein.

01:07:52 --> 01:07:54

Personally, I'm not convinced by this argument. I

01:07:54 --> 01:07:56

think it's an interesting argument, when you engage

01:07:56 --> 01:07:57

it, but,

01:07:57 --> 01:07:59

it's not very compelling in my opinion. I

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think Ibn Masrou definitely did have a musshaf.

01:08:02 --> 01:08:04

What happened to his musshaf, his codex? Was

01:08:04 --> 01:08:05

it recalled by Uthman

01:08:05 --> 01:08:06

and destroyed?

01:08:07 --> 01:08:08

Probably not.

01:08:08 --> 01:08:10

One of the students of Imam al Kisai

01:08:10 --> 01:08:11

in Kufa named Yahya

01:08:12 --> 01:08:14

al Farah, he said that he actually saw

01:08:14 --> 01:08:17

a copy of the codex of Ibn Mas'ud

01:08:17 --> 01:08:19

at the end of the 2nd century Hijri.

01:08:19 --> 01:08:21

Okay. So we have eyewitness testimony of its

01:08:21 --> 01:08:23

existence way after Uthman.

01:08:24 --> 01:08:25

Was this a fake, a fabrication? Was it

01:08:25 --> 01:08:27

original? Was it a copy? Allahu'alam, god knows.

01:08:28 --> 01:08:31

According to ibn Abi Dawud, Uthman did decree

01:08:32 --> 01:08:34

that all, personal fragments of the Quran that

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differ from the Uthmani Mus'af be destroyed.

01:08:37 --> 01:08:40

But ibn Hajar mentions that that it was

01:08:40 --> 01:08:42

possible that people erased the ink rather than

01:08:42 --> 01:08:45

destroyed or burned their manuscripts. And, of course,

01:08:45 --> 01:08:47

the lower text of c one was erased.

01:08:47 --> 01:08:49

So it's very important that we study c

01:08:49 --> 01:08:52

one. We'll look at that. However, ibn Mas'ud

01:08:52 --> 01:08:55

codex apparently survived well into the 8th century.

01:08:55 --> 01:08:56

Nonetheless,

01:08:56 --> 01:08:57

it is reported

01:08:57 --> 01:08:59

that in the textual tradition of ibn Mas'ud,

01:09:00 --> 01:09:03

Ibn Mas'ud read Surah 101 like this,

01:09:04 --> 01:09:07

Al Qari Atum Manqari Ahamma Adaraka Manqari Ahiyomayapunun

01:09:07 --> 01:09:08

nasukhadfarashin

01:09:08 --> 01:09:09

mabathuth.

01:09:09 --> 01:09:11

So far so good. And then verse 5,

01:09:16 --> 01:09:18

So what does the Uthmani textual tradition say?

01:09:22 --> 01:09:25

So Ibn Mas'ud says the mountains will be

01:09:25 --> 01:09:26

like carded suf.

01:09:27 --> 01:09:30

Uthman says the mountains will be like carded

01:09:30 --> 01:09:30

ehen.

01:09:31 --> 01:09:32

What can account

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for this difference?

01:09:33 --> 01:09:35

Well, there are three possible reasons.

01:09:35 --> 01:09:38

Number 1, this was an example of synonymic

01:09:38 --> 01:09:38

variation,

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one of the 7 aharof. In other words,

01:09:41 --> 01:09:41

at times,

01:09:42 --> 01:09:43

in order to facilitate

01:09:44 --> 01:09:45

comprehension and retention

01:09:46 --> 01:09:48

for various Arab tribes,

01:09:48 --> 01:09:51

the prophet would recite verses in various ways,

01:09:51 --> 01:09:52

and

01:09:52 --> 01:09:54

sometimes a word with a similar meaning would

01:09:54 --> 01:09:56

be used for another word because the latter

01:09:56 --> 01:09:58

was not known or not popular among a

01:09:58 --> 01:09:59

given tribe.

01:10:00 --> 01:10:02

So suf and echin are synonymous. They both

01:10:02 --> 01:10:03

mean wool.

01:10:03 --> 01:10:05

Right? It doesn't make a difference at all

01:10:05 --> 01:10:07

which word is used in the context of

01:10:07 --> 01:10:07

this verse.

01:10:08 --> 01:10:09

So the prophet recited it both ways. This

01:10:09 --> 01:10:11

was a function of the.

01:10:11 --> 01:10:12

At

01:10:12 --> 01:10:14

times, the prophet's readings had this type of

01:10:14 --> 01:10:17

recitational latitude for the sake of taisir alfahan,

01:10:17 --> 01:10:20

for the sake of facilitating understanding among Arabs.

01:10:21 --> 01:10:23

Now another possibility that I intimated earlier that

01:10:23 --> 01:10:26

this was simply an error that Ibn Mas'ud

01:10:26 --> 01:10:29

wrote down the wrong word. He misremembered it.

01:10:29 --> 01:10:32

A third possibility is that the word

01:10:32 --> 01:10:33

suf,

01:10:33 --> 01:10:35

is that he wrote the word suf somewhere

01:10:35 --> 01:10:37

in his codex, maybe above or below the

01:10:37 --> 01:10:38

verse

01:10:38 --> 01:10:41

as a tafsiri note, an exegetical note. In

01:10:41 --> 01:10:43

other words, to sort of remind himself

01:10:43 --> 01:10:46

that means suf, maybe because he wasn't familiar

01:10:47 --> 01:10:47

with the word

01:10:48 --> 01:10:50

and so he wrote down a synonym.

01:10:50 --> 01:10:52

But then later, some of his

01:10:52 --> 01:10:54

students maybe thought that he was correcting the

01:10:54 --> 01:10:56

muskaf or that he was saying that either

01:10:56 --> 01:10:58

one could be recited as a function of

01:10:58 --> 01:10:59

the akhruf.

01:11:00 --> 01:11:02

Abu Bakr al Bakilani, he said that companions

01:11:02 --> 01:11:05

at times would write tafsiri notes in their

01:11:05 --> 01:11:05

masahif.

01:11:06 --> 01:11:08

Ibn al Jazari said that they would do

01:11:08 --> 01:11:09

this idahan mabayanan,

01:11:10 --> 01:11:12

meaning as a way of sort of clarifying

01:11:12 --> 01:11:15

the meanings for themselves. So these were their

01:11:15 --> 01:11:15

personal codices.

01:11:16 --> 01:11:18

Okay? And so they would write their personal

01:11:18 --> 01:11:18

notes,

01:11:19 --> 01:11:20

in their personal codices.

01:11:22 --> 01:11:24

So these these notes, in the in the

01:11:24 --> 01:11:27

companion codices were really the very first form

01:11:27 --> 01:11:29

of tafsir, of Quranic exegesis

01:11:29 --> 01:11:30

in Islam.

01:11:30 --> 01:11:32

And what's interesting is when we look at

01:11:32 --> 01:11:33

the, like,

01:11:34 --> 01:11:35

the, c one, when we look at the

01:11:35 --> 01:11:39

sunnah palimpsest, we noticed that whoever wrote, whoever

01:11:39 --> 01:11:41

wrote this, possibly a companion of the prophet,

01:11:42 --> 01:11:44

right before Surah number 9,

01:11:44 --> 01:11:45

there's a note that says,

01:11:47 --> 01:11:49

Don't say Bismillah, because it's not the Sunnah

01:11:49 --> 01:11:51

in the Quran to recite Bismillah before. So,

01:11:51 --> 01:11:52

this is definitely

01:11:53 --> 01:11:56

the companion making a personal note to himself,

01:11:56 --> 01:11:57

reminding himself of something.

01:12:00 --> 01:12:02

But for the sake of argument, let's go

01:12:02 --> 01:12:04

with the first possibility.

01:12:04 --> 01:12:07

Okay? Let's say that Ibn Mas'ud,

01:12:07 --> 01:12:10

okay, recited it as suf because this is

01:12:10 --> 01:12:12

when he heard the prophet recite.

01:12:13 --> 01:12:15

Okay. Fine. And there are reports that Ibn

01:12:15 --> 01:12:18

Mas'ud refused to submit his mushaf because he

01:12:18 --> 01:12:21

said that, he learned his readings directly from

01:12:21 --> 01:12:22

the prophet. Fine.

01:12:22 --> 01:12:25

Now, even though Ibn Mas'ud's textual tradition was

01:12:25 --> 01:12:27

popular in Iraq, okay,

01:12:27 --> 01:12:28

it is very likely

01:12:30 --> 01:12:32

that there were several companions

01:12:32 --> 01:12:33

in Medina

01:12:34 --> 01:12:36

who learned the Quran from him. He was

01:12:36 --> 01:12:37

a great teacher of the Quran.

01:12:37 --> 01:12:39

So it is very likely that there were

01:12:39 --> 01:12:40

companions in Medina

01:12:41 --> 01:12:44

who recited Surah 5 sorry, verse 5 of

01:12:44 --> 01:12:45

Surah 101

01:12:45 --> 01:12:47

as Kasuf Al Manfush.

01:12:48 --> 01:12:51

So, so why does the Uthmani textual tradition

01:12:51 --> 01:12:52

say

01:12:53 --> 01:12:55

and not Suf? This is very simple. The

01:12:55 --> 01:12:59

latter reading with Suf was just not widely

01:12:59 --> 01:13:00

attested in Medina

01:13:01 --> 01:13:02

at the time of the codex committee.

01:13:04 --> 01:13:06

Okay. Suf was revealed to the prophet. Okay.

01:13:07 --> 01:13:09

But for the sake of stabilizing the text,

01:13:10 --> 01:13:12

it was abandoned by the codex committee.

01:13:13 --> 01:13:15

Now you might say, how can they abandon

01:13:15 --> 01:13:17

something from the Quran? That's a good question.

01:13:18 --> 01:13:19

How is this not,

01:13:20 --> 01:13:23

tahrifun nas? How is this not textual corruption?

01:13:23 --> 01:13:25

How is this not nasch? How is this

01:13:25 --> 01:13:26

not abrogation?

01:13:26 --> 01:13:28

Well, let's start with the latter.

01:13:29 --> 01:13:31

With respect to nusk, okay, abrogation,

01:13:32 --> 01:13:33

no one other than the prophet

01:13:34 --> 01:13:37

with God's leave can abrogate something. Okay?

01:13:38 --> 01:13:41

Perhaps Souf was abrogated by the prophet during

01:13:41 --> 01:13:44

his final mu'aradah with Jibril, his final review

01:13:44 --> 01:13:46

with Gabriel, and Zaid in the committee knew

01:13:46 --> 01:13:46

this.

01:13:47 --> 01:13:50

So Ihin reflects the the prophet's final recension

01:13:50 --> 01:13:51

with Gabriel.

01:13:52 --> 01:13:54

But, again, let's say for the sake of

01:13:54 --> 01:13:56

argument that it was not abrogated,

01:13:57 --> 01:13:58

that both readings were valid.

01:13:59 --> 01:14:02

How can the codex committee abandon the suf

01:14:02 --> 01:14:02

reading?

01:14:03 --> 01:14:05

Again, this is very simple. The akhruf were

01:14:05 --> 01:14:07

a form of ruxa.

01:14:07 --> 01:14:08

Ruxa means

01:14:09 --> 01:14:09

concession,

01:14:10 --> 01:14:10

alleviation,

01:14:11 --> 01:14:12

or special permission.

01:14:13 --> 01:14:16

The Quran was revealed in 7 Ahruf to

01:14:16 --> 01:14:17

make understanding

01:14:17 --> 01:14:18

easier

01:14:18 --> 01:14:21

and a Ruksa by rule may be abandoned.

01:14:22 --> 01:14:24

For example, if you travel during Ramadan,

01:14:24 --> 01:14:26

you do not have to fast.

01:14:26 --> 01:14:27

You can take that Ruksa

01:14:28 --> 01:14:30

and not fast or not take it and

01:14:30 --> 01:14:32

fast. It's your choice.

01:14:33 --> 01:14:35

So the codex committee made the choice

01:14:35 --> 01:14:38

to stabilize the Rasam upon one harf when

01:14:38 --> 01:14:39

it came to this verse

01:14:40 --> 01:14:43

rather than to have one Uthmani codex say

01:14:43 --> 01:14:46

suf and another Uthmani codex say ihin

01:14:46 --> 01:14:48

because this would have potentially led to the

01:14:48 --> 01:14:50

to the very type of unrest in the

01:14:50 --> 01:14:52

provinces that the, the codex committee

01:14:53 --> 01:14:55

was specifically formed to quell. Okay?

01:14:55 --> 01:14:58

Now so so this was not nusk. Okay?

01:14:59 --> 01:15:01

This was not abrogation of the Quran. This

01:15:01 --> 01:15:03

was abandoning a concession.

01:15:03 --> 01:15:05

Neither was this tahrif,

01:15:05 --> 01:15:06

textual corruption.

01:15:06 --> 01:15:09

So tahrif would have been to change a

01:15:09 --> 01:15:10

word to another word

01:15:11 --> 01:15:12

that was not found in

01:15:12 --> 01:15:15

any companion codex or manuscript and not recited

01:15:15 --> 01:15:16

by any known companion.

01:15:17 --> 01:15:19

For example, if the committee wrote,

01:15:21 --> 01:15:22

like, wabar means

01:15:23 --> 01:15:25

wool in Arabic. I don't know if it's,

01:15:25 --> 01:15:27

if it's modern or classical Arabic,

01:15:27 --> 01:15:29

but just just an example of a word

01:15:29 --> 01:15:30

that is that is totally unattested.

01:15:31 --> 01:15:32

Right? So

01:15:33 --> 01:15:34

so this would have been tariff. This would

01:15:34 --> 01:15:35

have been textual corruption.

01:15:36 --> 01:15:37

If the codex committee

01:15:37 --> 01:15:39

if the codex committee had decided

01:15:40 --> 01:15:40

to fabricate

01:15:41 --> 01:15:42

or corrupt the Quran,

01:15:43 --> 01:15:45

okay, this would have been they would have

01:15:45 --> 01:15:46

been confronted

01:15:46 --> 01:15:47

by 1,000

01:15:48 --> 01:15:49

of other Sahaba

01:15:49 --> 01:15:51

who would have made life,

01:15:52 --> 01:15:52

let's

01:15:52 --> 01:15:55

just say very, very difficult for the committee.

01:15:56 --> 01:15:58

Okay? Well, somebody might say, well, Usman was

01:15:58 --> 01:15:59

assassinated.

01:15:59 --> 01:16:00

Okay.

01:16:00 --> 01:16:02

Yes. He was 6 years later, and that

01:16:02 --> 01:16:05

had absolutely nothing to do with his standardization

01:16:06 --> 01:16:08

of the Quran. He was killed by foreign

01:16:08 --> 01:16:10

rebels who accused him of nepotism. It was

01:16:10 --> 01:16:11

all political.

01:16:13 --> 01:16:16

Okay. I mean, is Ibn Mas'ud Suf or

01:16:16 --> 01:16:16

etcetera?

01:16:18 --> 01:16:20

Is this really the hill that Christian polemicists

01:16:21 --> 01:16:22

want to die on?

01:16:22 --> 01:16:25

Right? Suf or ihin, really? I mean, it's

01:16:25 --> 01:16:27

it's desperation, I know. When we look in

01:16:27 --> 01:16:28

the new testament,

01:16:28 --> 01:16:30

you know, and Christians don't believe in achos.

01:16:30 --> 01:16:32

Right? We see variants

01:16:33 --> 01:16:35

that have major theological implications

01:16:36 --> 01:16:38

like John 118. Right? Is Jesus the only

01:16:38 --> 01:16:40

begotten son? Is he monogenes

01:16:41 --> 01:16:42

huios,

01:16:42 --> 01:16:44

or is he the only begotten god,

01:16:46 --> 01:16:48

the Now that is a variant reading for

01:16:48 --> 01:16:49

you.

01:16:49 --> 01:16:51

Okay. Which one is authentic? Well,

01:16:51 --> 01:16:52

let's

01:16:52 --> 01:16:54

look at the 1st century manuscripts of the

01:16:54 --> 01:16:56

gospel of John. We have 0.

01:16:57 --> 01:16:59

Okay? The oldest are p 66 and p

01:16:59 --> 01:17:02

75, both late 2nd century and they both

01:17:02 --> 01:17:04

say only begotten god.

01:17:05 --> 01:17:07

This is the older and the more difficult

01:17:07 --> 01:17:09

reading, so it's most likely the most authentic.

01:17:10 --> 01:17:12

So, scribes in the later centuries, they

01:17:13 --> 01:17:14

changed it to sun because the author of

01:17:14 --> 01:17:17

John's gospel clearly believed that Jesus was a

01:17:17 --> 01:17:18

second

01:17:18 --> 01:17:22

god. Right? Like, Origen called Christ, the logos,

01:17:22 --> 01:17:23

a deuteros

01:17:24 --> 01:17:27

theos, a second god. Justin Martyr, the father

01:17:27 --> 01:17:29

of Logos Theology,

01:17:30 --> 01:17:32

he called the Logos Allos Theos,

01:17:33 --> 01:17:36

another god. The the Johann and Jesus admits

01:17:36 --> 01:17:38

that he himself has a God.

01:17:39 --> 01:17:41

He's called God and he has a God.

01:17:41 --> 01:17:42

That's 2 Gods.

01:17:42 --> 01:17:46

John was highly influenced by middle Platonic metaphysics.

01:17:46 --> 01:17:49

He explicitly called Christ the logos and the

01:17:49 --> 01:17:52

only begotten God. And so later scribes

01:17:53 --> 01:17:55

wanted to soften his explicit polytheism.

01:17:56 --> 01:17:58

And so they changed only begotten only begotten

01:17:58 --> 01:18:01

god to only begotten son.

01:18:01 --> 01:18:03

So that is a very problematic,

01:18:04 --> 01:18:05

variant reading

01:18:05 --> 01:18:08

that has no similitude in the Quran, even

01:18:08 --> 01:18:10

though Christian polemicists want to sort of equalize,

01:18:10 --> 01:18:12

and we have this and you have it.

01:18:12 --> 01:18:12

It's no.

01:18:13 --> 01:18:15

It's worlds apart. Okay.

01:18:16 --> 01:18:17

Now,

01:18:18 --> 01:18:19

this is where the Christian polemicists will come

01:18:19 --> 01:18:21

in with a Hadith. They love this Hadith,

01:18:21 --> 01:18:23

right? It's going to backfire on them though.

01:18:23 --> 01:18:25

So there's a Hadith in Bukhari, the prophet

01:18:25 --> 01:18:26

sallallahu alaihi wasallam, he said,

01:18:30 --> 01:18:31

was Salim mumu'aabu

01:18:31 --> 01:18:32

Ubay ibn Nuqab.

01:18:34 --> 01:18:36

Ookumaqala alayhi salatu wa salam. So the Prophet

01:18:36 --> 01:18:38

said, take the Quran from 4 men.

01:18:39 --> 01:18:40

From ibn Mas'ud

01:18:40 --> 01:18:43

and Salim and Mu'adh and Ubay ibn Nukar.

01:18:45 --> 01:18:46

Okay? First thing here, the Prophet didn't say

01:18:46 --> 01:18:49

only these 4 men. The prophet mentioned these

01:18:49 --> 01:18:49

4 because

01:18:50 --> 01:18:51

they were the most imminent teachers of the

01:18:51 --> 01:18:52

Quran

01:18:53 --> 01:18:53

in his day.

01:18:54 --> 01:18:56

But here the Christian polemicist says,

01:18:56 --> 01:18:59

The prophet said, Take the Quran from Ibn

01:18:59 --> 01:18:59

Mas'ud,

01:19:00 --> 01:19:03

yet the codex committee abandoned many of his

01:19:03 --> 01:19:03

readings.

01:19:04 --> 01:19:04

Gotcha.

01:19:05 --> 01:19:06

Right? So this is just,

01:19:07 --> 01:19:08

an an an asinine.

01:19:09 --> 01:19:11

You know? That is to say a brainless

01:19:11 --> 01:19:13

argument. So so let's think about this. When

01:19:13 --> 01:19:15

the prophet made this statement,

01:19:15 --> 01:19:18

what did the companions do? Did they ignore

01:19:18 --> 01:19:18

him?

01:19:19 --> 01:19:21

No. They obviously listened to him and learned

01:19:21 --> 01:19:23

the Quran, their Quran from Ibn Mas'ud.

01:19:24 --> 01:19:26

Not all of them, some went to Ubay,

01:19:26 --> 01:19:27

some went to Mu'adh, etcetera.

01:19:28 --> 01:19:31

The companions who learned from Ibn Mas'ud probably

01:19:31 --> 01:19:33

wrote down what they learned. So when Zaid

01:19:33 --> 01:19:37

asked the generality of the companions to bring

01:19:37 --> 01:19:37

their manuscripts

01:19:38 --> 01:19:39

to the masjid,

01:19:39 --> 01:19:41

during the standardization process,

01:19:41 --> 01:19:44

those manuscripts were present. And I already said

01:19:44 --> 01:19:46

that the Uthmani textual tradition was a critical

01:19:46 --> 01:19:49

addition that assimilated the strongest readings

01:19:50 --> 01:19:52

from the existing companion textual traditions.

01:19:53 --> 01:19:55

In other words, much of the textual tradition

01:19:55 --> 01:19:56

of ibn Masbud

01:19:57 --> 01:19:58

was incorporated

01:19:58 --> 01:20:00

into the Uthmani textual tradition.

01:20:00 --> 01:20:03

So the codex committee did take from Ibn

01:20:03 --> 01:20:03

Mas'ud

01:20:04 --> 01:20:05

and ibn Ka'ab

01:20:05 --> 01:20:06

and Salim

01:20:07 --> 01:20:07

and Mu'av

01:20:08 --> 01:20:10

and others. The codex committee was in total

01:20:10 --> 01:20:11

conformity

01:20:12 --> 01:20:12

with this hadith.

01:20:13 --> 01:20:14

This hadith

01:20:14 --> 01:20:17

absolutely works against the Christian polemicis.

01:20:18 --> 01:20:18

Now, C1,

01:20:19 --> 01:20:21

that we'll talk about later. I keep talking

01:20:21 --> 01:20:22

I keep mentioning C1.

01:20:23 --> 01:20:25

The the son Palim says, was also a

01:20:25 --> 01:20:28

companion codex according to Behnam Sadele,

01:20:28 --> 01:20:30

and and I agree with him. And although

01:20:30 --> 01:20:32

C1 is not the Musaf of

01:20:33 --> 01:20:36

ibn Mas'ud, in C1, we see exactly the

01:20:36 --> 01:20:39

same types of differences that are described as

01:20:39 --> 01:20:41

occurring in the Mushaf of ibn Mas'ud.

01:20:42 --> 01:20:44

And this is how Doctor. Sikli describes C1.

01:20:44 --> 01:20:46

He says, quote, by and large, it is

01:20:46 --> 01:20:49

the same Quran we have in the Uthmanic

01:20:49 --> 01:20:50

text type. End quote.

01:20:51 --> 01:20:52

Therefore, logic tells us

01:20:54 --> 01:20:54

that,

01:20:54 --> 01:20:56

that this must also be true of the

01:20:56 --> 01:20:58

Mus'haf of Ibn Mas'rud that by and large,

01:20:58 --> 01:21:01

it is the same as the Uthmanic textual

01:21:01 --> 01:21:02

tradition.

01:21:02 --> 01:21:04

The Uthmanic textual tradition

01:21:04 --> 01:21:05

drew upon,

01:21:06 --> 01:21:08

okay, the textual tradition of Ibn Mas'ud and

01:21:08 --> 01:21:11

others. This is exactly what the prophet said

01:21:11 --> 01:21:13

to do, and this is exactly what the

01:21:13 --> 01:21:14

codex committee did.

01:21:16 --> 01:21:17

Now some orientalists

01:21:18 --> 01:21:20

and many, Christian of polemicists,

01:21:20 --> 01:21:22

claim that since there are reports

01:21:23 --> 01:21:24

that Ibn Mas'ud's codex

01:21:25 --> 01:21:26

did not contain Al Fatiha,

01:21:27 --> 01:21:30

that Ibn Mas'ud did not consider Al Fatiha

01:21:30 --> 01:21:32

to be part of the Quran. Like I

01:21:32 --> 01:21:32

said earlier,

01:21:33 --> 01:21:35

this goes beyond ridiculous. I think we've entered

01:21:35 --> 01:21:36

into the realm of ludicrous.

01:21:38 --> 01:21:41

If this report about his codex is accurate,

01:21:42 --> 01:21:44

it's obvious that ibn Mas'ud did not write

01:21:44 --> 01:21:47

Al Fatiha in his codex because al Fatiha

01:21:47 --> 01:21:48

was so ubiquitous.

01:21:48 --> 01:21:50

There was no need to write it down.

01:21:50 --> 01:21:53

In fact, the Abbasid scholar Abu Bakr alan

01:21:53 --> 01:21:56

Bari, is, is quoted by Imam al Qurtubi.

01:21:56 --> 01:21:58

So the great exeget, Imam al Qurtubi,

01:21:59 --> 01:22:00

in his Al Jami'r I Al Akkam al

01:22:00 --> 01:22:01

Quran.

01:22:01 --> 01:22:02

According to,

01:22:03 --> 01:22:03

Al Anbari,

01:22:04 --> 01:22:06

ibn Mas'ud was asked point blank

01:22:07 --> 01:22:09

why he did not write al Fatiha in

01:22:09 --> 01:22:09

his mushaf.

01:22:10 --> 01:22:12

And ibn Mas'ud responded, lo kataptuhahataptuham

01:22:14 --> 01:22:16

aquli Surah. If I had written it, I

01:22:16 --> 01:22:18

would have written it before every Surah.

01:22:19 --> 01:22:21

Right? This is how Muslims pray. They recite

01:22:21 --> 01:22:23

al Fatiha and then another Surah.

01:22:24 --> 01:22:26

So Al Anvari goes on to say that

01:22:26 --> 01:22:28

Ibn Mas'ud did not write it because there

01:22:28 --> 01:22:29

was no need.

01:22:29 --> 01:22:31

All of the Muslims had it memorized, so

01:22:31 --> 01:22:32

he left it off for the sake of

01:22:32 --> 01:22:33

brevity.

01:22:34 --> 01:22:36

So the argument of the polemicist here is

01:22:36 --> 01:22:36

a nonsecretor.

01:22:37 --> 01:22:39

You know, ibn Mas'ud did not write down

01:22:39 --> 01:22:41

a surah in his mushaf. Therefore, he denied

01:22:42 --> 01:22:43

that it was revelation.

01:22:44 --> 01:22:46

No. At this early time, and you mentioned

01:22:46 --> 01:22:48

this earlier, at this early time, orality took

01:22:48 --> 01:22:49

precedence overriding.

01:22:50 --> 01:22:52

Okay? And here's a quote from doctor Nazir

01:22:52 --> 01:22:55

Khan, who wrote a fantastic essay, by the

01:22:55 --> 01:22:57

way, entitled the origins of the variant readings

01:22:57 --> 01:22:59

of the Quran. He says the reality is

01:22:59 --> 01:23:00

that the Sahaba

01:23:02 --> 01:23:04

is that the Sahaba used their writings of

01:23:04 --> 01:23:06

the Quran as memory aids for personal worship

01:23:06 --> 01:23:06

and recitation

01:23:07 --> 01:23:10

and consequently never intended them as complete official

01:23:10 --> 01:23:11

copies

01:23:11 --> 01:23:12

of the Quran.

01:23:13 --> 01:23:16

Now, Imam Suyuti, he quoted Imam Al Tabri

01:23:16 --> 01:23:16

who who quoted

01:23:17 --> 01:23:18

the verse in the Quran. So there's a

01:23:18 --> 01:23:19

verse in the Quran, 15/80

01:23:22 --> 01:23:24

7, that says,

01:23:24 --> 01:23:26

that we have given you, oh prophet, the

01:23:26 --> 01:23:28

7 oft repeated ones

01:23:28 --> 01:23:29

in the great Quran.

01:23:30 --> 01:23:32

And and Imam Tabari said about the 7

01:23:32 --> 01:23:33

off

01:23:33 --> 01:23:35

repeated ones. Like, what does that mean, the

01:23:35 --> 01:23:37

7 off repeated ones? He says in his

01:23:37 --> 01:23:40

tafsir, qala ibn Mas'ud fatihatul kitab.

01:23:41 --> 01:23:42

Wah

01:23:42 --> 01:23:44

wal Quran al adhin qala sa'il al Quran.

01:23:44 --> 01:23:47

So he said that ibn Mas'ud said about

01:23:47 --> 01:23:49

this portion of this verse, the 7 off

01:23:49 --> 01:23:52

repeated ones, that this is a reference to

01:23:52 --> 01:23:52

the Fatiha,

01:23:54 --> 01:23:56

and that the great Quran was a reference

01:23:56 --> 01:23:58

to the remainder of the Quran.

01:23:58 --> 01:24:01

Okay. So but a critic here might say,

01:24:02 --> 01:24:04

well, those traditions could have been fabricated,

01:24:05 --> 01:24:06

to mitigate the controversy.

01:24:07 --> 01:24:09

They they just seem so convenient.

01:24:10 --> 01:24:12

Okay. But, again, this is not a historical

01:24:12 --> 01:24:15

argument. It's an argument that a Christian apologist,

01:24:15 --> 01:24:17

will use because he's forced to because these

01:24:17 --> 01:24:18

traditions are devastating,

01:24:19 --> 01:24:21

to his case. But, fine, let's forget about

01:24:21 --> 01:24:24

these statements of Ibn Mas'ud. Let's use logic

01:24:24 --> 01:24:26

and common sense. If Ibn Mas'ud did not

01:24:26 --> 01:24:27

consider al Fatiha

01:24:28 --> 01:24:30

to be part of the Quran, how did

01:24:30 --> 01:24:31

he pray?

01:24:31 --> 01:24:33

You know, how did his

01:24:33 --> 01:24:36

students in Kufa pray? His imminent students like

01:24:36 --> 01:24:38

Al Qama ibn Qais or Zir Ibn Khabeis?

01:24:38 --> 01:24:41

How did their students pray? Ibrahim An Nakhai

01:24:41 --> 01:24:42

and Aasen.

01:24:43 --> 01:24:45

How did their students pray? Abu Hanifa

01:24:45 --> 01:24:46

and his students,

01:24:46 --> 01:24:49

Muhammad al Shaybani and Kabi Abu Yusuf. If

01:24:49 --> 01:24:51

Ibn Mas'ud did not believe in Al Fatiha,

01:24:52 --> 01:24:53

this causes a

01:24:54 --> 01:24:56

cascade of unsolved problems.

01:24:56 --> 01:24:58

In Bukhari, we're told that Ibn Mas'ud's student,

01:24:59 --> 01:25:02

Al Khama, traveled to Syria and met with

01:25:02 --> 01:25:04

the other companion, Abu Darda, and they talked

01:25:04 --> 01:25:06

about the textual tradition of Ibn Mas'ud.

01:25:07 --> 01:25:10

Did Alakha Mah dispute with Abu Darda about

01:25:11 --> 01:25:12

and his and his hundreds of students

01:25:13 --> 01:25:15

about the Quranic status of al Fatiha?

01:25:16 --> 01:25:18

No, he didn't. Because if he did, you

01:25:18 --> 01:25:20

better believe we would have heard about that.

01:25:20 --> 01:25:22

It would have made major headlines.

01:25:23 --> 01:25:24

That's it. Okay.

01:25:24 --> 01:25:27

Why didn't Ibn Mas'ud's students in Kufa

01:25:27 --> 01:25:29

clash over the Fatihah,

01:25:30 --> 01:25:32

with the students of Abdurrahman al Sulani when

01:25:32 --> 01:25:35

the latter brought the codex,

01:25:35 --> 01:25:37

sorry, Texas receptus, as Arthur Jeffrey called it,

01:25:37 --> 01:25:39

the Uthmani codex into Kufa.

01:25:40 --> 01:25:42

You know, why didn't they make chakfir upon

01:25:42 --> 01:25:42

ibn Mas'ud,

01:25:43 --> 01:25:44

That is,

01:25:44 --> 01:25:45

anathematize

01:25:45 --> 01:25:48

him and his students for denying a surah

01:25:48 --> 01:25:49

of the Quran and have them brought up

01:25:49 --> 01:25:50

on charges

01:25:50 --> 01:25:53

of blasphemy and thrown in jail and punished.

01:25:55 --> 01:25:57

Now Arthur Jeffery points out that,

01:25:58 --> 01:26:00

that ibn Nabi Dawud mentions in Kitab al

01:26:00 --> 01:26:00

Musahes,

01:26:01 --> 01:26:03

that it was reported that ibn Mas'ud used

01:26:03 --> 01:26:04

to recite al Fatiha

01:26:05 --> 01:26:08

as Arshidna Arshidna Siratal Mustaqi

01:26:08 --> 01:26:10

instead of Idina Siratal Mustaqi.

01:26:11 --> 01:26:13

And, you know, other critics are quick to

01:26:13 --> 01:26:15

point this out as well. I mean, look

01:26:15 --> 01:26:17

how transparent our scholars were. They mentioned all

01:26:17 --> 01:26:19

these things. There was nothing to hide. But

01:26:19 --> 01:26:21

here's the problem for the critics. They can't

01:26:21 --> 01:26:22

have it both ways.

01:26:22 --> 01:26:24

Right? So if their claim is that Ibn

01:26:24 --> 01:26:26

Mas'ud rejected the Fatiha,

01:26:27 --> 01:26:30

they cannot say now out of the other

01:26:30 --> 01:26:32

side of their mouths that he No, he

01:26:32 --> 01:26:33

recited it, but he

01:26:33 --> 01:26:36

recited it as Arshid Nasirat al Mustaqimah, which

01:26:36 --> 01:26:38

is it? Right? And I've already mentioned that

01:26:38 --> 01:26:40

it is beyond obvious that Ibn Mas'ud considered

01:26:40 --> 01:26:41

Al Fatiha

01:26:42 --> 01:26:43

to be a surah of the Quran. So

01:26:43 --> 01:26:46

what about this business of Arshidna? Was this

01:26:46 --> 01:26:46

an authentic

01:26:47 --> 01:26:49

variant reading like Madic or Medic?

01:26:50 --> 01:26:52

Could it have been revealed to the prophet

01:26:52 --> 01:26:52

in this way

01:26:53 --> 01:26:54

in addition to as

01:26:55 --> 01:26:57

a function of the akhruv? And the answer

01:26:57 --> 01:26:58

is yes, it's possible,

01:26:59 --> 01:27:00

although highly improbable.

01:27:01 --> 01:27:03

Or perhaps ibn Mas'ud meant this to be

01:27:03 --> 01:27:06

an explanatory note, a tafsiri note for himself

01:27:06 --> 01:27:10

that, that Hidayah in this verse means Irshad.

01:27:10 --> 01:27:11

Right? They're somewhat synonymous.

01:27:12 --> 01:27:13

Maybe that's

01:27:14 --> 01:27:16

also possible, but it's anomalous.

01:27:16 --> 01:27:18

It's isolated. It has no solid basis. We

01:27:18 --> 01:27:19

have no

01:27:20 --> 01:27:22

external manuscript evidence of this.

01:27:22 --> 01:27:25

And our qira'at come from mass transmitted

01:27:26 --> 01:27:26

living traditions,

01:27:27 --> 01:27:30

not from isolated and spurious reports, not from

01:27:30 --> 01:27:31

remote possibilities.

01:27:32 --> 01:27:33

Right? So the bottom

01:27:33 --> 01:27:35

line is no one denied,

01:27:35 --> 01:27:37

al Fatiha. That is just ridiculous.

01:27:38 --> 01:27:38

Now

01:27:39 --> 01:27:41

the other thing that they bring up, okay,

01:27:41 --> 01:27:44

to create another shu'tah, right, another doubt or

01:27:44 --> 01:27:47

suspicion is the report that states that Ibn

01:27:47 --> 01:27:47

Mas'ud,

01:27:48 --> 01:27:51

Ibn Mas'ud's Mushaf lacked the last two surahs

01:27:51 --> 01:27:54

of the Quran. Right? So it's Surah 113

01:27:54 --> 01:27:57

and 114 called Al Mu'awad attained.

01:27:57 --> 01:27:59

Yeah. So Yuti mentions this.

01:27:59 --> 01:28:02

And therefore, here comes their wild nonsecretary

01:28:02 --> 01:28:05

conclusion again. And therefore, Ibn Mas'ud rejected these

01:28:05 --> 01:28:08

2 Surahs as being the Quran.

01:28:08 --> 01:28:10

Right? And and again, they they cite some

01:28:10 --> 01:28:13

isolated reports that Ibn Mas'ud erased these

01:28:13 --> 01:28:16

surahs from his codex. So my response here

01:28:16 --> 01:28:18

has 4 parts. Okay? Number 1, we have

01:28:18 --> 01:28:21

already established that for Ibn Mas'ud, if something

01:28:21 --> 01:28:23

was not written in his Mus'af, it did

01:28:23 --> 01:28:25

not mean that he rejected it as being

01:28:25 --> 01:28:26

the Quran.

01:28:26 --> 01:28:29

Perhaps he only wrote it in his Perhaps

01:28:29 --> 01:28:30

he only wrote in his Mus'af

01:28:31 --> 01:28:33

what he heard the prophet recite in prayer.

01:28:33 --> 01:28:36

So he didn't hear surahs 113 and 114

01:28:36 --> 01:28:37

in prayer, but he certainly did not reject

01:28:37 --> 01:28:39

them as being the Quran. The Fatiha was

01:28:39 --> 01:28:42

an exception because of its ubiquity. Number 2,

01:28:42 --> 01:28:45

again, our reading traditions come from mass transmission,

01:28:45 --> 01:28:47

not from isolated reports.

01:28:48 --> 01:28:50

Number 3, according to Imam, Shem Sudin al

01:28:50 --> 01:28:53

Jazari in his book Khitab al Nasr fihqratil

01:28:54 --> 01:28:55

Ashar,

01:28:55 --> 01:28:58

4 out of the 10 mass transmitted reading

01:28:58 --> 01:28:59

traditions, and we'll talk about these reading traditions.

01:29:00 --> 01:29:03

4 of, 4 out of the 10, so

01:29:03 --> 01:29:04

Asim, Hamza,

01:29:04 --> 01:29:06

Al Kisai, and Khalaf all in Iraq

01:29:07 --> 01:29:09

can be traced to the prophet through Abdullah

01:29:09 --> 01:29:10

ibn Mas'ud.

01:29:11 --> 01:29:13

And all recite Surah's 113 and

01:29:14 --> 01:29:16

114. And number 4,

01:29:16 --> 01:29:17

even if this were true,

01:29:18 --> 01:29:20

let's entertain this argument again.

01:29:20 --> 01:29:22

Okay. For argument's sake, let's say this is

01:29:22 --> 01:29:25

true. Ibn Mas'ud erased these 2 Surahs from

01:29:25 --> 01:29:27

his Mus'af because he didn't believe them to

01:29:27 --> 01:29:28

be the Quran.

01:29:29 --> 01:29:30

Okay. It is clear from all of his

01:29:30 --> 01:29:31

students

01:29:31 --> 01:29:33

and their students that he eventually

01:29:34 --> 01:29:36

did come to believe in their Quranic status.

01:29:36 --> 01:29:38

This is a point that Ibn Hajar made.

01:29:38 --> 01:29:40

It's very clear. Even if this statement is

01:29:40 --> 01:29:43

true, it's obvious that he changed his mind.

01:29:43 --> 01:29:45

This is yet another red herring that these

01:29:45 --> 01:29:47

polemicists want us to chase.

01:29:47 --> 01:29:49

This is this is them making sort of

01:29:49 --> 01:29:50

a mountain,

01:29:50 --> 01:29:51

out of a molehill.

01:29:52 --> 01:29:54

Moving on here. Yeah. Just can we just,

01:29:54 --> 01:29:56

about my own, thought I mean, obviously, not

01:29:56 --> 01:29:58

a scholar or anything, but I've got my

01:29:58 --> 01:30:00

copy here of the Holy Bible. This is

01:30:00 --> 01:30:01

kind of an analogy,

01:30:02 --> 01:30:04

and this is a very worn copy. I

01:30:04 --> 01:30:06

mean, I I mean, it's it's a brown

01:30:06 --> 01:30:09

because I and, obviously, it starts in Genesis.

01:30:09 --> 01:30:11

It's the Christian Bible, and it ends in

01:30:11 --> 01:30:12

the book of Revelation. Doesn't it? That's what

01:30:12 --> 01:30:15

the bible should be. But in my copy,

01:30:16 --> 01:30:19

there's some missing books. And actually, the last

01:30:19 --> 01:30:20

page is Hebrews

01:30:21 --> 01:30:22

Hebrews chapter

01:30:23 --> 01:30:23

3.

01:30:24 --> 01:30:26

Now, does this mean that the Holy Bible

01:30:26 --> 01:30:28

doesn't contain the book of Revelation or the

01:30:28 --> 01:30:30

letter of James or 123

01:30:30 --> 01:30:31

John?

01:30:31 --> 01:30:33

Because it's not in my copy,

01:30:34 --> 01:30:37

which is extremely well worn away and thumbed.

01:30:37 --> 01:30:40

No. Because because it was worn away by

01:30:40 --> 01:30:41

use. And so I had to replace it

01:30:41 --> 01:30:43

with this one, which is the full copy,

01:30:43 --> 01:30:46

including the book of Revelation, which is missing

01:30:47 --> 01:30:48

for my codex,

01:30:48 --> 01:30:51

for my musha, for my, Christian bible. Yeah.

01:30:51 --> 01:30:53

That I'm not saying that's a serious academic,

01:30:53 --> 01:30:55

alternative, but it just goes to show that

01:30:55 --> 01:30:56

things can get worn away through a lot

01:30:56 --> 01:30:58

of use. It doesn't mean the books are

01:30:58 --> 01:31:00

never there, or they're denied their canonical status,

01:31:00 --> 01:31:03

or they're not inspired. It's just this particular,

01:31:04 --> 01:31:06

book that I have is being worn away

01:31:06 --> 01:31:08

through a constant use. That's it. No. That's

01:31:08 --> 01:31:11

a good point. And and, of course, Surah

01:31:11 --> 01:31:13

113 and 114 are the last 2 Surah

01:31:13 --> 01:31:15

of the Quran. That's the point. They're the

01:31:15 --> 01:31:17

last 2. Yeah. And the book of Revelation

01:31:17 --> 01:31:19

is the last in the Bible, but it's

01:31:19 --> 01:31:20

missing Exactly. My codex.

01:31:21 --> 01:31:22

Does that what does that prove? Does it

01:31:22 --> 01:31:23

prove it was never there in the first

01:31:23 --> 01:31:25

place? Not really. It got worn away through

01:31:25 --> 01:31:26

use.

01:31:27 --> 01:31:28

Yes. Exactly. Exactly.

01:31:28 --> 01:31:31

That's a good point. Now let's move to

01:31:31 --> 01:31:34

the mushaf of another companion. So Ubay ibn

01:31:34 --> 01:31:35

Uqab. Okay?

01:31:36 --> 01:31:38

And the polemicists also,

01:31:38 --> 01:31:40

they really love this mushaf.

01:31:42 --> 01:31:46

Okay. So, again, we don't have the mushaf,

01:31:46 --> 01:31:48

of of ibn Kab. It's not extent. C

01:31:48 --> 01:31:50

one is not the mushaf of ibn Kab.

01:31:51 --> 01:31:53

And C But although C1 more closely resembles

01:31:53 --> 01:31:55

ibn Kab than it does of Ibn Mas'ud.

01:31:55 --> 01:31:57

So what's the big deal about this Mus'haf?

01:31:57 --> 01:31:59

Right? Well, there are reports,

01:31:59 --> 01:32:02

reports that the Mus'af of Ibn Kaab contained

01:32:03 --> 01:32:04

2 additional Surahs

01:32:05 --> 01:32:07

that did not make it into the Uthmani

01:32:07 --> 01:32:07

codex.

01:32:08 --> 01:32:09

Gasp.

01:32:09 --> 01:32:12

Sayyuti in the Iqan, he mentions this as

01:32:12 --> 01:32:14

well and references this to Kitab al Mu'ath.

01:32:14 --> 01:32:14

Sahib,

01:32:15 --> 01:32:16

Al Adami mentions in his book, The History

01:32:16 --> 01:32:18

of the Quran Text, that this was first

01:32:18 --> 01:32:20

mentioned by Hamad ibn Salima, who actually died

01:32:20 --> 01:32:23

167 Hijra, and that there's a major gap

01:32:23 --> 01:32:25

in the ISN ed of this report of

01:32:25 --> 01:32:26

at least 2 or 3 generations.

01:32:27 --> 01:32:29

So Adame calls this report defective and spurious.

01:32:30 --> 01:32:33

Nonetheless, let's look at these so called Suras.

01:32:34 --> 01:32:36

The first so called Sura is called, Surat

01:32:36 --> 01:32:37

Al Khala.

01:32:37 --> 01:32:37

Okay,

01:32:38 --> 01:32:39

and here it is, I'll read the entire

01:32:39 --> 01:32:41

Surah, so called Surah,

01:32:53 --> 01:32:56

Okay? So, oh, Allah, we invoke you for

01:32:56 --> 01:32:56

help

01:32:57 --> 01:32:58

and beg for forgiveness, and we believe in

01:32:58 --> 01:33:00

you and have trust in you and we

01:33:00 --> 01:33:02

praise you in the best way we can,

01:33:02 --> 01:33:03

and we thank you and we are not

01:33:03 --> 01:33:05

ungrateful to you, and we forsake and turn

01:33:05 --> 01:33:07

away from the one who disobeys you. That's

01:33:07 --> 01:33:09

it. This is supposed to be a Surah.

01:33:10 --> 01:33:12

Not sure how many verses it is. The

01:33:12 --> 01:33:14

second so called Surah is

01:33:14 --> 01:33:16

called Surah Al Haft and here it is.

01:33:16 --> 01:33:17

Allahumma Iyaka na Abuuwalakanussaliwanasjuduwailaka

01:33:19 --> 01:33:19

nas

01:33:25 --> 01:33:28

So O Allah, we worship you and ourselves

01:33:28 --> 01:33:29

before you, and we hasten towards you and

01:33:29 --> 01:33:31

serve you. And we hope, to receive your

01:33:31 --> 01:33:32

mercy,

01:33:33 --> 01:33:33

and we

01:33:34 --> 01:33:37

dread your torment. Surely, the, disbelievers shall incur

01:33:37 --> 01:33:38

your torment.

01:33:38 --> 01:33:39

Okay.

01:33:43 --> 01:33:45

Now let's go back here. Yes. So now

01:33:45 --> 01:33:47

Muslims who are listening to this right now,

01:33:47 --> 01:33:49

especially the Hanafis,

01:33:49 --> 01:33:51

have probably immediately recognized

01:33:52 --> 01:33:53

what I just read as

01:33:54 --> 01:33:57

something called Dua Al Kunut. Okay? This is

01:33:57 --> 01:33:58

also called Al Kunut Al Hanafi'ah.

01:33:59 --> 01:34:02

This is a very popular prophetic invocation. Okay?

01:34:02 --> 01:34:03

It is recorded

01:34:03 --> 01:34:04

in numerous,

01:34:05 --> 01:34:07

hadith that the prophet would often recite this

01:34:07 --> 01:34:08

supplication,

01:34:08 --> 01:34:12

Dua'al Qunud, during the audible prayers. I'll cite

01:34:12 --> 01:34:13

a few here. So, Sunan

01:34:14 --> 01:34:15

Abu Majah, number 1182,

01:34:16 --> 01:34:18

created a sound on the authority of Ubay

01:34:18 --> 01:34:19

ibn Nukab,

01:34:19 --> 01:34:21

right? The same Ubay ibn Uqab who wrote

01:34:21 --> 01:34:22

the codex in question.

01:34:23 --> 01:34:25

The messenger of God used to pray witter

01:34:25 --> 01:34:27

and recite Al Qunut before bowing.

01:34:29 --> 01:34:29

Sunan

01:34:30 --> 01:34:32

and Masai also graded a sound on the

01:34:32 --> 01:34:34

authority of Ubay ibn Luqa'ab.

01:34:34 --> 01:34:36

The Messenger of God used to pray 3

01:34:36 --> 01:34:38

cycles during Surat al Wutr and he would

01:34:38 --> 01:34:40

recite in the 1st Sura 87, in

01:34:40 --> 01:34:42

the 2nd Sura 109,

01:34:42 --> 01:34:43

in the 3rd

01:34:43 --> 01:34:45

Sura 112, and then Al Qunut

01:34:46 --> 01:34:49

before bowing. At timmidi number 401,

01:34:49 --> 01:34:51

from Bara'i ibnu Azib, the prophet sallallahu alaihi

01:34:51 --> 01:34:53

wasallam used to recite Al Qunut in the

01:34:53 --> 01:34:54

morning and sunset prayers.

01:34:55 --> 01:34:57

So, this was something the Sahaba heard the

01:34:57 --> 01:35:00

Prophet say in prayer. Now, Doctor. Sean Anthony,

01:35:01 --> 01:35:03

who is not hostile, he's not a polemicist,

01:35:03 --> 01:35:06

he's written on this topic of the alleged

01:35:06 --> 01:35:08

loss to surahs. Okay? And this is what

01:35:08 --> 01:35:10

he concludes. This is a quote from Anthony.

01:35:11 --> 01:35:14

A hoard of evidence strongly indicates that not

01:35:14 --> 01:35:16

merely Ubayy ibn Ka'a, but also other companions

01:35:17 --> 01:35:19

regarded the Surahs, he means these 2 Surahs,

01:35:19 --> 01:35:20

as part of the Quran

01:35:21 --> 01:35:23

and therefore part of the prophetic revelation given

01:35:23 --> 01:35:24

to Muhammad.

01:35:25 --> 01:35:26

Now, I don't necessarily

01:35:26 --> 01:35:28

disagree with him here. I think it's certainly

01:35:28 --> 01:35:29

understandable

01:35:30 --> 01:35:32

why some companions could have thought

01:35:33 --> 01:35:34

that these were

01:35:34 --> 01:35:37

Surah. Right? The prophet used to recite them

01:35:37 --> 01:35:37

in prayer.

01:35:38 --> 01:35:40

Okay? And this is no doubt why Ubay

01:35:40 --> 01:35:43

ibn Nuqa'ab and maybe others wrote these supplications

01:35:43 --> 01:35:45

down in their Masahif

01:35:45 --> 01:35:46

because the prophet would

01:35:46 --> 01:35:47

recite them in prayer.

01:35:48 --> 01:35:51

But then Anthony also says that these 2

01:35:51 --> 01:35:54

Suras, quote, for whatever reason came to be

01:35:54 --> 01:35:55

excluded from the canon

01:35:55 --> 01:35:58

by the process of Uthman's collection and textual

01:35:58 --> 01:35:58

canonization

01:35:59 --> 01:36:00

of the prophetic revelation.

01:36:01 --> 01:36:03

For whatever reason, really,

01:36:03 --> 01:36:05

I think the reason is more than obvious.

01:36:05 --> 01:36:08

So, these so called Suras were not deemed

01:36:08 --> 01:36:10

genuine Suras by the codex committee

01:36:11 --> 01:36:13

because the vast majority of the companions

01:36:14 --> 01:36:16

always knew them to be special supplications,

01:36:17 --> 01:36:19

that the prophet would recite in prayer nonetheless,

01:36:20 --> 01:36:21

but not as Quranic Suras.

01:36:22 --> 01:36:24

That the companions who did regard them as

01:36:24 --> 01:36:26

Suras were simply wrong. They were under a

01:36:26 --> 01:36:27

misapprehension.

01:36:28 --> 01:36:31

Again, the Uthmani textual tradition was the most

01:36:31 --> 01:36:34

widely recited rendition of the prophetic

01:36:34 --> 01:36:37

archetype because it was called for the most

01:36:37 --> 01:36:39

widely attested readings of the companions.

01:36:39 --> 01:36:42

Why else would the committee exclude them? Why

01:36:42 --> 01:36:44

else? Why? And Anthony doesn't give an doesn't

01:36:44 --> 01:36:47

give an answer. Do they contain some aberrant

01:36:47 --> 01:36:50

or blasphemous teachings? No. Do they contain, you

01:36:50 --> 01:36:52

know, embarrassing grammatical errors?

01:36:53 --> 01:36:54

No.

01:36:55 --> 01:36:57

Do their meanings contradict the rest of the

01:36:57 --> 01:36:59

Quran in some way? No. Now now this

01:36:59 --> 01:37:01

is enough, but for what it's worth, let's

01:37:01 --> 01:37:03

look at the internal evidence of these so

01:37:03 --> 01:37:04

called Suras.

01:37:04 --> 01:37:06

Now doctor Van Poonen contends

01:37:07 --> 01:37:08

that these, supplications

01:37:09 --> 01:37:11

sound like the Quran. Right? So he he

01:37:11 --> 01:37:12

concludes,

01:37:12 --> 01:37:14

yes. They are Suras of

01:37:14 --> 01:37:17

the Quran. I disagree with him. I actually

01:37:17 --> 01:37:19

don't think that they sound like the Quran.

01:37:19 --> 01:37:21

I think the style and diction of these

01:37:21 --> 01:37:22

so called Surahs

01:37:22 --> 01:37:23

contravene

01:37:23 --> 01:37:24

the Quranic idiom.

01:37:25 --> 01:37:26

The reason is because,

01:37:26 --> 01:37:28

they are the words of the prophet.

01:37:28 --> 01:37:30

So what I mean is they are in

01:37:30 --> 01:37:32

correct Arabic, and the meanings are sound. They

01:37:32 --> 01:37:33

agree with the theology

01:37:34 --> 01:37:36

and message of the Quran, but stylistically,

01:37:37 --> 01:37:38

they are not Quranic.

01:37:38 --> 01:37:40

And Anthony mentions this as well, although, ultimately,

01:37:40 --> 01:37:43

he's not persuaded by it. Van Poonen's opinion

01:37:43 --> 01:37:45

about these surahs is actually at odds with

01:37:45 --> 01:37:46

Noldike and Shuale.

01:37:47 --> 01:37:49

So Nolike and Shuali were the 2 main

01:37:49 --> 01:37:50

authors of the seminal,

01:37:51 --> 01:37:53

history of the Quran in German.

01:37:53 --> 01:37:54

Nolike

01:37:54 --> 01:37:57

and Shuali reject actually rejected these supplications as

01:37:57 --> 01:38:01

being genuinely Quranic on literary and stylistic grounds.

01:38:01 --> 01:38:02

I'll just give you 2 pieces of evidence.

01:38:03 --> 01:38:04

So number 1, the

01:38:05 --> 01:38:06

the vacative Allahumah,

01:38:06 --> 01:38:07

meaning oh god,

01:38:08 --> 01:38:10

never appears in the Quran as the first

01:38:10 --> 01:38:12

word of any verse as it does in

01:38:12 --> 01:38:13

these 2 so called Surahs.

01:38:14 --> 01:38:16

In every occurrence in the Quran, you can

01:38:16 --> 01:38:17

look in the concordance,

01:38:17 --> 01:38:20

Allahumma is preceded by either Qul Qala or

01:38:20 --> 01:38:21

something equivalent

01:38:25 --> 01:38:26

like Their cry therein will be in other

01:38:26 --> 01:38:29

words, God is quoting the people of paradise.

01:38:29 --> 01:38:31

Right? This is equivalent to saying

01:38:33 --> 01:38:35

Okay? So that's 1. And then and number

01:38:35 --> 01:38:38

2, and even Anthony calls this this one

01:38:38 --> 01:38:39

compelling evidence.

01:38:40 --> 01:38:42

In Surah Al Khala, this so called Surah,

01:38:42 --> 01:38:43

it says,

01:38:45 --> 01:38:47

Right? We don't disbelieve in you

01:38:47 --> 01:38:49

with a second person masculine singular,

01:38:50 --> 01:38:53

phenomenal suffix as a direct object. However, in

01:38:53 --> 01:38:54

the idiom of

01:38:55 --> 01:38:57

the Quran, we should have expected to see

01:38:57 --> 01:38:58

nekfuru bika.

01:38:59 --> 01:39:02

Okay? The Quran always uses the preposition be

01:39:02 --> 01:39:04

before the object of the verb kafarayakfuru.

01:39:05 --> 01:39:07

Okay. In other words, this verb always takes

01:39:07 --> 01:39:08

an indirect object.

01:39:09 --> 01:39:10

Like I have some examples here.

01:39:19 --> 01:39:19

Right?

01:39:24 --> 01:39:25

I mean, there are hundreds of examples like

01:39:25 --> 01:39:26

this every single time.

01:39:27 --> 01:39:29

So, no, this is Dua'al Kunut. It is

01:39:29 --> 01:39:31

the inspired speech of the prophet.

01:39:31 --> 01:39:32

It is not the verbatim,

01:39:33 --> 01:39:35

talaqi revealed speech of god.

01:39:36 --> 01:39:38

If Sean Anthony's contention is correct and some

01:39:38 --> 01:39:41

of the companions believed these words to be

01:39:41 --> 01:39:42

Quranic

01:39:42 --> 01:39:42

Suwar,

01:39:43 --> 01:39:46

then the codex committee corrected their misunderstanding.

01:39:46 --> 01:39:48

It it's very simple.

01:39:48 --> 01:39:50

You know, it's ironic, you know, when when

01:39:50 --> 01:39:52

Christian palamuses bring up this issue of the

01:39:52 --> 01:39:54

so called missing surahs,

01:39:54 --> 01:39:56

Paul says in 1st Corinthians

01:39:57 --> 01:39:58

5:9,

01:39:58 --> 01:40:00

he says something very interesting. He says, when

01:40:00 --> 01:40:02

I I mean, most of what Paul says

01:40:02 --> 01:40:05

is interesting. When I wrote to you before,

01:40:05 --> 01:40:07

I told you not to associate with people

01:40:07 --> 01:40:10

who indulge in sexual sin.

01:40:10 --> 01:40:12

When I wrote to you before?

01:40:12 --> 01:40:14

So Paul wrote an

01:40:14 --> 01:40:18

epistle to Corinth before he wrote 1st Corinthians.

01:40:19 --> 01:40:21

First Corinthians is actually 2nd Corinthians,

01:40:22 --> 01:40:25

and 2nd Corinthians is actually 3rd Corinthians.

01:40:25 --> 01:40:27

In other words, the new testament is missing

01:40:27 --> 01:40:28

an entire book.

01:40:29 --> 01:40:32

Perhaps Paul in real 1st Corinthians

01:40:32 --> 01:40:36

said explicitly that Christ was an angel, or

01:40:36 --> 01:40:38

that James was his mortal enemy. I mean,

01:40:38 --> 01:40:41

we'll never know unless it's found, but then

01:40:41 --> 01:40:43

will Christians be willing to amend their canon

01:40:43 --> 01:40:45

and include it? I mean, if it's from

01:40:45 --> 01:40:47

Paul, it it must have been inspired. Right?

01:40:48 --> 01:40:49

Anyway, moving on here.

01:40:51 --> 01:40:53

Now now before we talk about before we

01:40:53 --> 01:40:54

talk about the synapalemcess,

01:40:54 --> 01:40:56

I want to say a few things here.

01:40:57 --> 01:40:58

I'm going to get a bit sort of

01:40:58 --> 01:40:59

psychological,

01:40:59 --> 01:41:02

on you. Now I I personally believe that

01:41:02 --> 01:41:03

many of these

01:41:04 --> 01:41:07

Christian apologists and polemicists who attack the Quran,

01:41:08 --> 01:41:09

much of their vitriol,

01:41:10 --> 01:41:12

I think, is due to the fact that

01:41:12 --> 01:41:12

they,

01:41:13 --> 01:41:16

somewhere in the back of their minds, they

01:41:16 --> 01:41:16

recognize

01:41:17 --> 01:41:19

the strength and accuracy of our narrative

01:41:20 --> 01:41:22

when it comes to the Quran. And so

01:41:22 --> 01:41:24

they're filled with envy and frustration because their

01:41:24 --> 01:41:25

narrative

01:41:25 --> 01:41:27

has been utterly deconstructed

01:41:27 --> 01:41:30

by secular academics and historians. And the Quran

01:41:30 --> 01:41:33

even intimates this. Right? The Quran says that,

01:41:33 --> 01:41:35

many of the people in the book, they

01:41:35 --> 01:41:37

wish to turn you away from faith out

01:41:37 --> 01:41:38

of envy, Hasid and Indian

01:41:42 --> 01:41:43

They wish to turn you away from the

01:41:43 --> 01:41:46

truth and make you unbelievers out of envy

01:41:46 --> 01:41:48

because the truth has been manifested

01:41:48 --> 01:41:50

to them. So, this is called a guilt

01:41:50 --> 01:41:54

complex. Right? So, they vainly accuse our narrative

01:41:54 --> 01:41:54

of false

01:41:55 --> 01:41:58

and attack our scripture because they know

01:41:58 --> 01:42:00

that their own narrative and scripture is in

01:42:00 --> 01:42:01

utter shambles.

01:42:01 --> 01:42:03

The Christian polemicist attitude toward the Muslim is,

01:42:03 --> 01:42:05

well, if my book is going down in

01:42:05 --> 01:42:08

flames, I'm taking your book down, with it.

01:42:08 --> 01:42:10

You see. They want us to sort of

01:42:10 --> 01:42:12

commiserate with them. This is why many Christian

01:42:12 --> 01:42:14

polemicists are probing into the history

01:42:15 --> 01:42:17

of the pre Uthmanic Quran. This is their

01:42:17 --> 01:42:20

obsession. What did the Quran look like before

01:42:20 --> 01:42:20

Uthman?

01:42:21 --> 01:42:23

In other words, what happened between the passing

01:42:23 --> 01:42:24

of the prophet,

01:42:25 --> 01:42:27

Sallallahu Alaihi Wasallam and the standardization of the

01:42:27 --> 01:42:29

Quran by the codex committee of Uthman

01:42:31 --> 01:42:33

This is the key period, 632 to 6

01:42:33 --> 01:42:34

50.

01:42:35 --> 01:42:37

Now, if you ask any Christian at random,

01:42:37 --> 01:42:39

where does Jesus, peace be upon him, claim

01:42:39 --> 01:42:41

to be divine in the new testament,

01:42:42 --> 01:42:44

invariably, they will quote the gospel of John.

01:42:44 --> 01:42:44

Right?

01:42:45 --> 01:42:47

Not really Matthew, Mark, or Luke, which all

01:42:47 --> 01:42:49

predated John. They'll quote John 316 and John

01:42:49 --> 01:42:51

858 and John 1030 and John 146.

01:42:52 --> 01:42:54

The author of the gospel of John,

01:42:55 --> 01:42:57

as I said, explicitly refers to Christ as

01:42:57 --> 01:42:59

Theos, a divine being or a God in

01:42:59 --> 01:43:02

John 1:3 and John 118. Thomas refers to

01:43:02 --> 01:43:04

Jesus as my God,

01:43:05 --> 01:43:07

in in John 20, 28.

01:43:07 --> 01:43:10

Of course, the, the gospel of John became

01:43:10 --> 01:43:13

the most theologically influential book in the entire

01:43:13 --> 01:43:14

new testament.

01:43:14 --> 01:43:16

Traditionally, Christians attributed the the authorship of the

01:43:16 --> 01:43:18

gospel of John to John, the son of

01:43:18 --> 01:43:21

Zebedee, a disciple of Jesus. However, as I

01:43:21 --> 01:43:21

said,

01:43:22 --> 01:43:24

most secular and confessional historians today say that

01:43:24 --> 01:43:26

the gospel of John was written around 90,

01:43:28 --> 01:43:29

possibly later, as I mentioned.

01:43:30 --> 01:43:31

And so to maintain

01:43:32 --> 01:43:32

apostolic

01:43:33 --> 01:43:34

authorship of John is just becoming

01:43:35 --> 01:43:35

untenable.

01:43:36 --> 01:43:39

That means a simple Jewish fisherman from the

01:43:39 --> 01:43:42

Galilee who saw Jesus and heard Jesus's Aramaic

01:43:42 --> 01:43:42

teachings

01:43:43 --> 01:43:44

waited until he was

01:43:45 --> 01:43:47

90 years old to write his gospel. And

01:43:47 --> 01:43:48

when he did, he wrote it in a

01:43:48 --> 01:43:49

foreign language.

01:43:49 --> 01:43:52

Here's the historical question that has effectively devastated

01:43:52 --> 01:43:55

Christianity, I think. And I want people to

01:43:55 --> 01:43:58

listen carefully. What did Christians believe about Jesus

01:43:58 --> 01:44:00

before the gospel of John?

01:44:00 --> 01:44:03

Now, I believe that Paul, writing in the

01:44:03 --> 01:44:03

fifties,

01:44:04 --> 01:44:07

believed that Jesus was a God, not the

01:44:07 --> 01:44:08

God, but a God.

01:44:09 --> 01:44:11

For Paul, Christ was the divine son of

01:44:11 --> 01:44:13

God who died for our sins.

01:44:13 --> 01:44:16

I also believe that the synoptics present Jesus

01:44:16 --> 01:44:18

as being a god. However, this is very

01:44:18 --> 01:44:20

much open to debate. One can make a

01:44:20 --> 01:44:22

pretty good argument that Paul and the Synoptics

01:44:22 --> 01:44:25

did not believe that Jesus Christ was divine

01:44:25 --> 01:44:26

in any way. The Unitarians,

01:44:26 --> 01:44:28

make an argument along those lines.

01:44:29 --> 01:44:31

However, in John, I think it's very clear

01:44:31 --> 01:44:33

that Jesus is a divine being

01:44:34 --> 01:44:35

of some sort.

01:44:35 --> 01:44:37

He's called theos explicitly. I think that Johann

01:44:37 --> 01:44:38

and Jesus

01:44:38 --> 01:44:41

himself is claiming some sort of divine status.

01:44:42 --> 01:44:43

Not only this,

01:44:43 --> 01:44:45

by referring to Jesus by the loaded term

01:44:45 --> 01:44:48

logos who was in the beginning with God,

01:44:48 --> 01:44:49

John has

01:44:50 --> 01:44:53

explicitly tapped into this type of Hellenistic metaphysics,

01:44:53 --> 01:44:55

and this would have

01:44:55 --> 01:44:58

eventually crystallized into the full blown doctrine of

01:44:58 --> 01:45:00

the trinity in the early 4th century. So

01:45:00 --> 01:45:02

if not for the gospel of John, would

01:45:02 --> 01:45:04

we have the Christian trinity? That's debatable.

01:45:05 --> 01:45:07

But I think that everyone would agree that

01:45:07 --> 01:45:10

the gospel of John was a highly, highly

01:45:10 --> 01:45:11

theologically

01:45:11 --> 01:45:12

influential document

01:45:13 --> 01:45:14

in the Christian world when it

01:45:15 --> 01:45:17

became popular. Okay. It was a game changer.

01:45:18 --> 01:45:20

Yet today, most historians tell us that none

01:45:20 --> 01:45:22

of the so called divine claims of the

01:45:22 --> 01:45:24

Johannan Jesus should be trusted

01:45:24 --> 01:45:27

as being traceable to the historical Jesus. These

01:45:27 --> 01:45:29

statements of the Johannan Jesus, they're not early,

01:45:29 --> 01:45:31

they're not multiply tested, they're not socially and

01:45:31 --> 01:45:32

theologically coherent.

01:45:32 --> 01:45:35

Also, if the historical Jesus truly made these

01:45:35 --> 01:45:38

pronouncements, the I am statements, there is no

01:45:38 --> 01:45:39

good reason why the Synoptics,

01:45:39 --> 01:45:42

the Synoptic authors did not record them.

01:45:42 --> 01:45:44

So now the Christian polemicist,

01:45:44 --> 01:45:45

right,

01:45:45 --> 01:45:48

battered and broken as it were, wants desperately

01:45:49 --> 01:45:51

to say that the Uthmani codex,

01:45:51 --> 01:45:54

like the gospel of John, was also a

01:45:54 --> 01:45:54

highly

01:45:55 --> 01:45:56

theologically

01:45:56 --> 01:46:00

influential document when compared to the textual traditions

01:46:00 --> 01:46:03

that preceded it. That the Uthmani codex

01:46:03 --> 01:46:05

like John compared to the Synoptix

01:46:06 --> 01:46:09

was markedly different in its content and style

01:46:09 --> 01:46:11

when compared to the companion codices

01:46:12 --> 01:46:14

that preceded it. That's the guild

01:46:15 --> 01:46:18

complex. Right? Now let's look at the difference

01:46:18 --> 01:46:19

here. Okay?

01:46:20 --> 01:46:21

Let's look at the difference.

01:46:23 --> 01:46:25

So what is the Uthmanite textual tradition?

01:46:25 --> 01:46:27

Let's break it down a little bit more.

01:46:27 --> 01:46:29

It is a collection of the dominant readings

01:46:29 --> 01:46:31

of the Quran by the sahaba, Sahaba, the

01:46:31 --> 01:46:32

companions

01:46:32 --> 01:46:34

in Medina in 6 50.

01:46:35 --> 01:46:37

When Uthman commissioned,

01:46:37 --> 01:46:40

Zaid as director of the, codex committee, Zaid

01:46:40 --> 01:46:41

commanded

01:46:41 --> 01:46:44

that all Sahaba who had any personal Quranic

01:46:44 --> 01:46:46

manuscripts, right, companion codices

01:46:47 --> 01:46:48

in their homes to bring them to the

01:46:48 --> 01:46:49

mosque.

01:46:50 --> 01:46:51

Now we know again that the that the

01:46:51 --> 01:46:54

prophet had appointed scribes to write down the

01:46:56 --> 01:46:56

Quran.

01:46:57 --> 01:46:58

According to Muslim sources,

01:46:59 --> 01:47:01

for every portion of the Quran presented,

01:47:01 --> 01:47:04

Zayd demanded 2 witnesses. What does 2 witnesses

01:47:04 --> 01:47:06

mean? So ibn Hajir says,

01:47:12 --> 01:47:14

He says, 2 witnesses who testify

01:47:15 --> 01:47:17

that the verse or literally that which literally

01:47:17 --> 01:47:20

that which was written was written verbatim in

01:47:20 --> 01:47:22

the presence of the prophet. In other words,

01:47:22 --> 01:47:24

2 men who saw it written in the

01:47:24 --> 01:47:28

presence of the prophet. So Al Adami clarifies,

01:47:28 --> 01:47:30

2 men who saw it written under the

01:47:30 --> 01:47:31

prophet's supervision.

01:47:32 --> 01:47:34

2 of the official scribes, really.

01:47:35 --> 01:47:37

And this was based upon the verse in

01:47:37 --> 01:47:38

the Quran that states that whenever we enter

01:47:38 --> 01:47:40

into a contract, let 2 witnesses from your

01:47:40 --> 01:47:41

men,

01:47:41 --> 01:47:43

bear witness. Right?

01:47:47 --> 01:47:49

These men must witness the actual writing of

01:47:49 --> 01:47:52

the contract. Okay? So so we can imagine

01:47:53 --> 01:47:54

that there were many, many manuscripts

01:47:55 --> 01:47:58

submitted by different companions that contained the same

01:47:58 --> 01:48:00

verses. Right? So a lot of duplicates. We

01:48:00 --> 01:48:02

can also imagine that due to the Quran

01:48:02 --> 01:48:04

being revealed in 7 Akrof, that there were

01:48:04 --> 01:48:06

some variations of the same verses in the

01:48:06 --> 01:48:08

manuscripts of different companions.

01:48:09 --> 01:48:11

Two witnesses does not mean that only 2

01:48:11 --> 01:48:12

men were reciting those verses

01:48:13 --> 01:48:14

or that only 2 men remember

01:48:15 --> 01:48:17

hearing the prophet recite those verses. No, it

01:48:17 --> 01:48:20

meant that 2 men distinctly remember when those

01:48:20 --> 01:48:22

verses were ordered by the prophet himself to

01:48:22 --> 01:48:23

be transcribed

01:48:23 --> 01:48:24

officially.

01:48:25 --> 01:48:27

Those verses could have been recited by thousands

01:48:27 --> 01:48:28

of companions,

01:48:28 --> 01:48:31

hundreds of whom heard the prophet himself recite

01:48:31 --> 01:48:34

them. Now, what did Uthman why did Uthman

01:48:34 --> 01:48:37

choose Zayd ibn Thabit to head the committee?

01:48:37 --> 01:48:40

The answer is So in addition to being

01:48:40 --> 01:48:42

the prophet's close companion as well as his

01:48:42 --> 01:48:42

neighbor,

01:48:43 --> 01:48:46

Zayd was also the chief scribe of the

01:48:46 --> 01:48:46

prophet.

01:48:47 --> 01:48:49

He was also a Hafid of the Quran.

01:48:49 --> 01:48:52

Nobody from the companions knew the Quran better

01:48:52 --> 01:48:54

than Zaid and Noufabbath.

01:48:54 --> 01:48:56

Okay? All of the men serving on the

01:48:56 --> 01:48:59

codex committee were hafaa. They had memorized the

01:48:59 --> 01:49:00

Quran. They were Quran masters.

01:49:01 --> 01:49:03

Whenever a manuscript was witnessed for

01:49:04 --> 01:49:06

by 2 men, the committee then checked it

01:49:06 --> 01:49:08

against other manuscripts

01:49:08 --> 01:49:09

and then against their memories

01:49:10 --> 01:49:12

and the memories of the well known Harfath

01:49:12 --> 01:49:13

of the Quran.

01:49:13 --> 01:49:15

And those readings that were

01:49:15 --> 01:49:17

deemed to be the most widely recited among

01:49:17 --> 01:49:18

the hafad,

01:49:19 --> 01:49:21

the Quran masters among the companions, as well

01:49:21 --> 01:49:23

as among the generality of the other companions,

01:49:23 --> 01:49:25

those readings were officially transcribed

01:49:26 --> 01:49:28

in the master of money codex.

01:49:28 --> 01:49:31

So written and recited materials were collated against

01:49:31 --> 01:49:32

each other

01:49:32 --> 01:49:35

to determine the most dominant reading.

01:49:36 --> 01:49:38

Now, why did Zaid do all of this?

01:49:38 --> 01:49:40

Why the 2 witnesses? Why not just write

01:49:40 --> 01:49:40

down

01:49:41 --> 01:49:43

what the committee was reciting? Why look at

01:49:43 --> 01:49:44

the manuscripts?

01:49:44 --> 01:49:46

Well, the answer is Zaid and the committee

01:49:46 --> 01:49:49

wanted to reconcile the written Quran with the

01:49:49 --> 01:49:51

recited Quran. You wanted to make doubly sure

01:49:51 --> 01:49:54

that nothing was left unaccounted for. Perhaps there

01:49:54 --> 01:49:54

were,

01:49:55 --> 01:49:57

perhaps the reverse is written down that were

01:49:57 --> 01:49:59

not being recited. If so, why?

01:49:59 --> 01:50:01

Perhaps there were verses being recited

01:50:02 --> 01:50:05

that were not written down. If so, why?

01:50:05 --> 01:50:08

He wanted to ensure total agreement and accuracy.

01:50:08 --> 01:50:11

So Zaid, he said, I gathered the Quran

01:50:11 --> 01:50:13

from various manuscripts and from the chests of

01:50:13 --> 01:50:14

men.

01:50:16 --> 01:50:18

Right? So let's say for instance, that a

01:50:18 --> 01:50:20

manuscript or 2 was presented that contained the

01:50:20 --> 01:50:23

Dua and Kunut. Right? The the 2 so

01:50:23 --> 01:50:23

called Suras

01:50:24 --> 01:50:26

that were found in the Musaf of Ubayy

01:50:26 --> 01:50:26

ibnqa'ah.

01:50:27 --> 01:50:29

Why were these verses not transcribed in the

01:50:29 --> 01:50:31

master codex by the committee?

01:50:31 --> 01:50:34

Were they somehow theologically offensive? No. We covered

01:50:34 --> 01:50:35

that.

01:50:35 --> 01:50:38

Perhaps these verses lacked a single witness

01:50:38 --> 01:50:40

among the scribes. In other words, they could

01:50:40 --> 01:50:43

not verify that the prophet himself considered these

01:50:43 --> 01:50:44

verses to be the Quran.

01:50:45 --> 01:50:48

Perhaps these verses were not widely recited as

01:50:48 --> 01:50:49

being surahs of the Quran.

01:50:50 --> 01:50:52

In the end, the committee deemed that these

01:50:52 --> 01:50:55

verses constituted a prophetic supplication,

01:50:56 --> 01:50:58

not Quranic ayat, and that the companions who

01:50:58 --> 01:51:01

considered them to be Surahs were simply wrong.

01:51:01 --> 01:51:03

The committee did their due diligence.

01:51:03 --> 01:51:05

Okay? They could not have done a better

01:51:05 --> 01:51:06

job.

01:51:06 --> 01:51:08

Now, according to Muslim sources,

01:51:08 --> 01:51:10

the last two verses of Surah

01:51:11 --> 01:51:12

At Tawba,

01:51:13 --> 01:51:15

okay, had only one witness. His name

01:51:15 --> 01:51:17

was Abu Hoseim Al Ansari. Again,

01:51:19 --> 01:51:21

this does not mean that only one man

01:51:21 --> 01:51:23

was reciting these verses or that only 1

01:51:23 --> 01:51:25

man heard the prophet recite these verses.

01:51:25 --> 01:51:27

It meant that one man remembered when these

01:51:27 --> 01:51:30

verses were transcribed by order of the prophet.

01:51:30 --> 01:51:33

Now Zaid and the committee, they went ahead

01:51:33 --> 01:51:36

and wrote down these verses in the master

01:51:36 --> 01:51:38

codex, despite having only one witness,

01:51:38 --> 01:51:41

precisely because these verses were so widely recited

01:51:42 --> 01:51:44

among many, many Sahaba. There was really no

01:51:44 --> 01:51:46

doubt about them. Okay. So, the rule of

01:51:46 --> 01:51:49

2 was important. The rule of 2 witnesses,

01:51:49 --> 01:51:50

it was important to the committee, but it

01:51:50 --> 01:51:53

was still secondary to what the committee regarded

01:51:53 --> 01:51:56

as being widely recited or mass transmitted

01:51:57 --> 01:51:58

in recitation. Okay?

01:51:59 --> 01:51:59

For the companions,

01:52:00 --> 01:52:01

the earliest Muslims,

01:52:01 --> 01:52:03

the written word was important, but it took

01:52:03 --> 01:52:06

a back seat to what was widespread

01:52:07 --> 01:52:07

in recitation.

01:52:08 --> 01:52:10

The companions prior to the committee did not

01:52:10 --> 01:52:14

consider their personal manuscripts to be official and

01:52:14 --> 01:52:14

complete

01:52:15 --> 01:52:15

codices.

01:52:16 --> 01:52:18

That's very, very important. Okay. Now,

01:52:19 --> 01:52:20

many modern

01:52:20 --> 01:52:21

anti Quran polemicists,

01:52:22 --> 01:52:24

they enjoy raising doubts and suspicions, even the

01:52:24 --> 01:52:27

shubu hat, about the actions of the codex

01:52:27 --> 01:52:30

committee under Uthman. Right? Their claim is basically

01:52:30 --> 01:52:33

that the Uthmani textual tradition, right? The Quran

01:52:33 --> 01:52:35

we recite today is not what the prophet

01:52:36 --> 01:52:37

used to recite,

01:52:37 --> 01:52:39

that the Uthmani text is somehow incorrect or

01:52:39 --> 01:52:42

corrupted. And they will appeal to 2 things

01:52:42 --> 01:52:43

to support their position.

01:52:44 --> 01:52:46

Okay. Number 1, they will appeal to the

01:52:46 --> 01:52:49

radical claims of some extreme elements

01:52:50 --> 01:52:52

of the leaders of the Rafidah, right? The

01:52:52 --> 01:52:52

Shia

01:52:53 --> 01:52:55

who claim that Uthman's committee

01:52:55 --> 01:52:57

corrupted the Quran.

01:52:57 --> 01:52:59

That's number 1. Number 2, they will appeal

01:52:59 --> 01:53:01

to the fact that many of the readings

01:53:01 --> 01:53:03

of the Quran recorded in the various companion

01:53:03 --> 01:53:04

codices

01:53:05 --> 01:53:07

differed from the standard of Mani codex. Okay.

01:53:07 --> 01:53:09

So let's look at the the first so

01:53:09 --> 01:53:10

called piece of evidence.

01:53:11 --> 01:53:13

Now it is true that there have been

01:53:13 --> 01:53:15

a few Shiite scholar

01:53:16 --> 01:53:18

who claimed that Buffman's committee manipulated,

01:53:19 --> 01:53:21

at least a couple of verses in the

01:53:21 --> 01:53:24

Quran that praise the Ahlulbayt, the prophet's family.

01:53:26 --> 01:53:27

In other words, the committee,

01:53:27 --> 01:53:29

did what the Quran

01:53:29 --> 01:53:32

says, that certain Jews did with with the

01:53:32 --> 01:53:33

Hebrew bible. Right?

01:53:36 --> 01:53:38

Which literally means they they shifted words from

01:53:38 --> 01:53:39

the proper context.

01:53:40 --> 01:53:40

They decontextualize

01:53:41 --> 01:53:43

the text, which is a form of textual

01:53:43 --> 01:53:43

corruption.

01:53:44 --> 01:53:47

The Shiites identify these verses as Ayatul,

01:53:47 --> 01:53:50

Ayatul Khadir, they say, and Ayatul Tathir, which

01:53:50 --> 01:53:53

appear in verses in in Suras 5 and

01:53:53 --> 01:53:53

33

01:53:54 --> 01:53:55

of the Uthmanic Quran

01:53:56 --> 01:53:58

respectively. Their claim is that there are statements

01:53:58 --> 01:54:01

in these verses which really belong in other

01:54:01 --> 01:54:01

Surah.

01:54:02 --> 01:54:03

Right? And that by placing them

01:54:04 --> 01:54:07

in these present Surah, Surah 5 33, the

01:54:07 --> 01:54:09

Uthmanic committee altered their true meanings

01:54:10 --> 01:54:11

and their true, context.

01:54:13 --> 01:54:15

Now when these anti Muslim

01:54:16 --> 01:54:17

atheists and Christian polemicists,

01:54:17 --> 01:54:18

whoops.

01:54:19 --> 01:54:20

Sorry about that.

01:54:21 --> 01:54:23

When when they hear stuff like this, right,

01:54:24 --> 01:54:26

they jump all over it. Right? It's it's

01:54:26 --> 01:54:29

music to their ears. You see, they say,

01:54:29 --> 01:54:31

even other Muslims are saying that the Omani

01:54:31 --> 01:54:32

Codex

01:54:32 --> 01:54:33

is corrupted and unreliable.

01:54:34 --> 01:54:35

You know, Wansbur

01:54:36 --> 01:54:38

pointed out that the Muslims went from an

01:54:38 --> 01:54:39

interfaith accusation

01:54:39 --> 01:54:41

of scriptural alteration to an intrafaith

01:54:42 --> 01:54:42

accusation

01:54:43 --> 01:54:45

of scriptural alteration. So here here's my twofold,

01:54:45 --> 01:54:46

response,

01:54:47 --> 01:54:48

to this. Number 1,

01:54:49 --> 01:54:50

the vast majority of Shia

01:54:51 --> 01:54:54

scholars do not make this claim. Okay. This

01:54:54 --> 01:54:55

claim actually clashes

01:54:56 --> 01:54:58

with clear cut texts within

01:54:59 --> 01:54:59

the

01:55:00 --> 01:55:00

Quran.

01:55:01 --> 01:55:01

Right?

01:55:02 --> 01:55:04

That verily we sent down this reminder, the

01:55:04 --> 01:55:07

Quran, verily we are its guardians. I mean,

01:55:07 --> 01:55:08

one would have to interpret this

01:55:09 --> 01:55:12

verse in very strange and highly cryptic ways

01:55:12 --> 01:55:13

in order to maintain

01:55:13 --> 01:55:15

one's claim that the Quran

01:55:16 --> 01:55:18

has been corrupted. Right? Based upon the clear,

01:55:18 --> 01:55:20

plain, and apparent meaning of this verse, the

01:55:20 --> 01:55:23

Quran is preserved, and to say otherwise is

01:55:23 --> 01:55:25

zandaka, is heresy clearly.

01:55:26 --> 01:55:29

So this is a fringe opinion among a

01:55:29 --> 01:55:33

few Shiite exegetes that the overwhelming majority do

01:55:33 --> 01:55:33

not endorse.

01:55:34 --> 01:55:37

Okay. Number 2, historically and logically,

01:55:37 --> 01:55:38

this claim,

01:55:38 --> 01:55:40

totally implodes into

01:55:40 --> 01:55:41

an oblivion.

01:55:41 --> 01:55:43

Let me show you how. So let's think

01:55:43 --> 01:55:46

about this again. If the codex committee of

01:55:46 --> 01:55:49

Uthman manipulated or changed or corrupted verses

01:55:49 --> 01:55:52

of the Quran that praised Ahlul Bayt,

01:55:52 --> 01:55:55

then surely this would have run afoul of

01:55:56 --> 01:55:57

Sayna Ali ibn Abi Fad,

01:55:58 --> 01:55:58

right?

01:56:00 --> 01:56:03

Was Ali secretly reciting the uncorrupted

01:56:03 --> 01:56:04

form of these verses

01:56:05 --> 01:56:07

in his home with Imam Hassan

01:56:07 --> 01:56:08

and Imam Hussein?

01:56:09 --> 01:56:11

If certain Shi'ites should answer this question with

01:56:11 --> 01:56:12

a yes,

01:56:13 --> 01:56:15

then when Ali became caliph and

01:56:16 --> 01:56:18

moved the capital to Kufa, why didn't he

01:56:18 --> 01:56:20

call for another codex committee

01:56:20 --> 01:56:22

to correct the mushaf? I mean, he could

01:56:22 --> 01:56:25

have done that. He became Khalifa tul Muslimee.

01:56:25 --> 01:56:26

He was Amir Umminin,

01:56:27 --> 01:56:30

right? Why didn't he form a second committee

01:56:30 --> 01:56:33

to restore these verses and correct the Uthmani

01:56:33 --> 01:56:35

codex? What did Adi actually do? Well, he

01:56:35 --> 01:56:37

led the prayers in Kufa every day by

01:56:37 --> 01:56:39

reciting the Uthmani textual tradition.

01:56:40 --> 01:56:43

Okay. He recited exactly what was presented to

01:56:43 --> 01:56:43

the Kufans

01:56:43 --> 01:56:46

5 years earlier by Abdul Rahman al Sulami,

01:56:46 --> 01:56:48

the qari who brought the codex

01:56:49 --> 01:56:50

into Kufa from Medina.

01:56:51 --> 01:56:53

So my question for the few Shiite leaders

01:56:53 --> 01:56:54

who continue to claim

01:56:55 --> 01:56:57

that the Uthmani Codex is corrupted is this,

01:56:57 --> 01:56:59

do you really believe that Ali was reciting

01:56:59 --> 01:57:01

in prayer what he believed to be a

01:57:01 --> 01:57:03

corrupted Quran?

01:57:04 --> 01:57:06

Every answer to this question is going to

01:57:06 --> 01:57:06

be problematic.

01:57:07 --> 01:57:09

So the claim that the committee corrupted the

01:57:09 --> 01:57:11

Quran because they wanted to disparage

01:57:12 --> 01:57:13

and delegitimize

01:57:14 --> 01:57:16

the family of the prophet is just is

01:57:16 --> 01:57:18

absolute garbage. Now the second piece of evidence

01:57:18 --> 01:57:20

that these anti Quran polemicists will use,

01:57:21 --> 01:57:24

in order to throw suspicion upon the codex

01:57:24 --> 01:57:26

committee is the fact that some of the

01:57:26 --> 01:57:27

readings in the companion codices

01:57:28 --> 01:57:30

differed from the Uthmani codex. And we talked

01:57:30 --> 01:57:33

about this, but now I want to specifically

01:57:33 --> 01:57:35

talk about the San'a Palimpsest.

01:57:36 --> 01:57:38

Okay. I think we've arrived now. Finally got

01:57:38 --> 01:57:40

here. Finally got to this. Finally got here.

01:57:40 --> 01:57:42

Yes. Building up and here we are.

01:57:42 --> 01:57:44

It's all downhill from here. So so we

01:57:44 --> 01:57:47

talked about Ibn Mas'ud and Ibn Ka'b. Right?

01:57:48 --> 01:57:50

Now the lower text of the Yemeni palimpsest

01:57:51 --> 01:57:53

is is another example.

01:57:53 --> 01:57:55

According to the most authoritative

01:57:56 --> 01:57:58

academic study done on the palimpsest, which was

01:57:58 --> 01:58:00

by Sadri and Budarzi,

01:58:01 --> 01:58:03

the lower text of the Yemeni palimpsest was

01:58:03 --> 01:58:05

most likely a companion codex.

01:58:06 --> 01:58:08

Okay. Sadri calls it C1 as we said,

01:58:09 --> 01:58:11

the codex of an unknown companion. It's the

01:58:11 --> 01:58:14

only manuscript of the Quran ever discovered that

01:58:14 --> 01:58:15

is not part of the Uthmani

01:58:16 --> 01:58:19

textual tradition or the Uthmani textual stemma or

01:58:19 --> 01:58:20

family.

01:58:20 --> 01:58:22

C one is about 41% of the Quran.

01:58:22 --> 01:58:25

It was most likely, written between 617 and

01:58:25 --> 01:58:26

647

01:58:27 --> 01:58:29

of the common era, obviously, before the codex

01:58:29 --> 01:58:29

committee.

01:58:30 --> 01:58:32

Now, I've already explained why there are some

01:58:32 --> 01:58:35

differences among the companion textual traditions. Right? According

01:58:35 --> 01:58:36

to our

01:58:37 --> 01:58:39

traditional sources, there are four possible reasons, a

01:58:39 --> 01:58:40

different spelling conventions,

01:58:40 --> 01:58:43

variance due to the revealed Ahrof where the

01:58:43 --> 01:58:45

Rasm is different, possible scribal errors,

01:58:46 --> 01:58:48

possible exegetical glosses or notes made by companions.

01:58:49 --> 01:58:51

The lower text of c one is is

01:58:51 --> 01:58:53

no different just as our tradition perfectly explains

01:58:54 --> 01:58:55

the variance and the text

01:58:56 --> 01:58:59

traditional traditions of imasurud and Ubayi nukab,

01:58:59 --> 01:59:01

it also perfectly explains the variance in the

01:59:01 --> 01:59:04

textual tradition of c one. So at the

01:59:04 --> 01:59:05

end of the day, c one

01:59:06 --> 01:59:08

is what one of my colleagues refer to

01:59:08 --> 01:59:10

as a big nothing burger.

01:59:10 --> 01:59:13

Right? The the discovery of c one A

01:59:13 --> 01:59:13

big nothing

01:59:14 --> 01:59:15

burger, did you say?

01:59:16 --> 01:59:17

Burger. Yeah. A big I don't know if

01:59:17 --> 01:59:19

you have that express No. I It's something

01:59:19 --> 01:59:20

that's hyped

01:59:21 --> 01:59:22

up. Something that's hyped up but turns out

01:59:22 --> 01:59:24

to be nothing. Okay. This

01:59:24 --> 01:59:25

expression. We don't have that we don't we

01:59:25 --> 01:59:27

don't have that in England, that expression. Anyway,

01:59:27 --> 01:59:28

that's okay.

01:59:29 --> 01:59:30

It's gonna make its way over there now.

01:59:30 --> 01:59:31

Thanks,

01:59:33 --> 01:59:34

Transmission route is very clear. We know we

01:59:34 --> 01:59:36

know who to blame if it does come

01:59:36 --> 01:59:38

over here. But, anyway yeah. Exactly.

01:59:39 --> 01:59:42

Yeah. The discovery of c one actually supports

01:59:42 --> 01:59:44

the Muslim narrative. Right?

01:59:44 --> 01:59:46

So so anti Muslim polemicists,

01:59:47 --> 01:59:48

they want it so bad

01:59:50 --> 01:59:50

to find

01:59:51 --> 01:59:52

additional verses,

01:59:53 --> 01:59:54

additional surahs,

01:59:54 --> 01:59:55

or highly

01:59:56 --> 02:00:00

logically significant material in C1 when compared to

02:00:00 --> 02:00:03

the Uthmani textual tradition, there was nothing significant.

02:00:03 --> 02:00:06

They wanted the differences between the companion codices

02:00:07 --> 02:00:09

and the Uthmani text to be as great

02:00:09 --> 02:00:12

as the differences between the synoptic gospels and

02:00:12 --> 02:00:14

the gospel of John. They wanted to find

02:00:14 --> 02:00:15

something equivalent to

02:00:16 --> 02:00:17

the pericope adulterite

02:00:18 --> 02:00:20

or the Johann and coma or the longer

02:00:20 --> 02:00:20

ending of Mark.

02:00:21 --> 02:00:22

They were disappointed.

02:00:22 --> 02:00:23

Okay?

02:00:23 --> 02:00:26

Now there's there's an outstanding short video, actually,

02:00:26 --> 02:00:28

I recommend on YouTube that explains the nature

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of the differences found in the palimpsest. It's

02:00:31 --> 02:00:31

called,

02:00:32 --> 02:00:34

what do these San'a what do these San'a

02:00:34 --> 02:00:36

manuscripts tell us about the Quran by Al

02:00:36 --> 02:00:37

Muqaddima.

02:00:38 --> 02:00:40

So I recommend that. I'll quickly summarize the

02:00:40 --> 02:00:41

major findings.

02:00:42 --> 02:00:45

Okay. There are 35 minuteor textual differences between

02:00:45 --> 02:00:48

c one and the Uthmanic text or instead

02:00:48 --> 02:00:50

of a wa it says fa, instead of

02:00:50 --> 02:00:52

lan it says la

02:00:52 --> 02:00:55

or a definite article is missing from a

02:00:55 --> 02:00:57

word. Okay. These are all differences in prepositions,

02:00:57 --> 02:00:59

particles, and and definite articles.

02:01:00 --> 02:01:02

There are also another 25 or so textual

02:01:02 --> 02:01:03

differences in nouns and verbs.

02:01:04 --> 02:01:05

18 of the 25,

02:01:07 --> 02:01:08

are with similar sounding words.

02:01:09 --> 02:01:12

18 of the 25. So these are easily

02:01:12 --> 02:01:13

explained away as human error.

02:01:14 --> 02:01:16

Right? Sometimes a word in C1

02:01:17 --> 02:01:19

is missing when compared to Uthman. This is

02:01:19 --> 02:01:22

again most likely human error. People were more

02:01:22 --> 02:01:24

much more likely to leave a word out

02:01:24 --> 02:01:27

when when writing from memory than add a

02:01:27 --> 02:01:29

word. There are a few instances, however, where

02:01:29 --> 02:01:32

C1 has an extra word when compared to

02:01:32 --> 02:01:33

Uthman,

02:01:33 --> 02:01:35

but these can be explained away as textual

02:01:36 --> 02:01:38

assimilation, okay, which is another form of human

02:01:38 --> 02:01:41

error. But for example, in the Uthmani tradition,

02:01:41 --> 02:01:44

chapter 2 verse 193, Suratul Baqarah verse 193

02:01:44 --> 02:01:47

says, Wayakunu Dinu Lillah.

02:01:48 --> 02:01:48

Wayakunodinu

02:01:49 --> 02:01:50

lila.

02:01:50 --> 02:01:52

C1, the same verse reads Wayakunadinukuluhulila.

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Kuluhu. So, C1 has an

02:01:57 --> 02:02:00

Right? Where did C1 get this word from?

02:02:00 --> 02:02:02

Well, it's very likely that the scribe confused

02:02:03 --> 02:02:03

2193

02:02:04 --> 02:02:07

with chapter 8 verse 39 because 839

02:02:08 --> 02:02:09

sounds a lot like 2193.

02:02:11 --> 02:02:11

And 839

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does in fact read, Wayakuna

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dinu kulu hulilla.

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Okay? So this is called textual assimilation of

02:02:18 --> 02:02:21

parallel verses. Textual assimilation

02:02:21 --> 02:02:23

of parallel verses. It's very common. Mean, I

02:02:23 --> 02:02:25

do this all the time when I'm memorizing.

02:02:25 --> 02:02:26

At least when I'm trying to memorize

02:02:27 --> 02:02:30

the Quran, I confuse similar sounding verses. But

02:02:30 --> 02:02:32

only these phenomena you're talking about are very

02:02:32 --> 02:02:34

well researched and documented in the biblical manuscript

02:02:34 --> 02:02:36

traditions. And all of these are understood and

02:02:36 --> 02:02:39

made allowances for, and no two manuscripts are

02:02:39 --> 02:02:41

absolutely identical because they're all written by hand.

02:02:41 --> 02:02:43

So this is well a well developed and

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understood science in a way in biblical manuscript,

02:02:46 --> 02:02:48

traditional textual criticism.

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So we should really allow,

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some leeway in in in the the thematic

02:02:53 --> 02:02:55

and other textual traditions in the of the

02:02:55 --> 02:02:57

Quran, because we're dealing with human beings who

02:02:57 --> 02:02:59

are talking manuscripts

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it's the same process it's you fallible humans

02:03:02 --> 02:03:04

so we would expect I would think we

02:03:04 --> 02:03:06

would expect to see precisely the kind of

02:03:06 --> 02:03:09

phenomena which you have detailed. If we didn't

02:03:09 --> 02:03:10

see it, we there'll be a I would

02:03:10 --> 02:03:12

think it'd be a problem, the problem because

02:03:12 --> 02:03:14

how could it be so different so this

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is precisely what we should and do in

02:03:16 --> 02:03:18

fact see and as you say, is to

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do with you know, misremembering or actually thinking

02:03:20 --> 02:03:23

of another verse when, and and that's inserted

02:03:23 --> 02:03:25

instead. All this is well recognized in the

02:03:25 --> 02:03:28

biblical tradition, so we should make that, allowance,

02:03:28 --> 02:03:30

I think, for the Quranic manuscript tradition, if

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we're gonna be fair and balanced on this.

02:03:32 --> 02:03:34

Yeah. Exactly. But, you know, they say when

02:03:34 --> 02:03:36

you get older, 4 things happen

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to you. Right? Number 1, your memory weakens,

02:03:39 --> 02:03:41

and I don't remember the other 3.

02:03:42 --> 02:03:43

Oh, very witty.

02:03:44 --> 02:03:46

Yes. Yeah. So so almost all of these

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additions in c one can be explained by

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textual assimilation of parallel verses. Yeah. There are

02:03:51 --> 02:03:54

more instances where the Uthmani text has additional

02:03:54 --> 02:03:57

words that are not in c one. Now

02:03:57 --> 02:03:59

this is interesting. According to Sadhli and Bergman,

02:03:59 --> 02:04:01

they have a paper called, an academic paper

02:04:01 --> 02:04:03

called the codex of a companion of the

02:04:03 --> 02:04:06

prophet and the Quran of the prophet. They

02:04:06 --> 02:04:08

say this means that the Uthmani tradition is

02:04:08 --> 02:04:10

closer to the prophetic archetype

02:04:11 --> 02:04:13

than C1 or Ibn Mas'ud.

02:04:14 --> 02:04:16

Okay? Now, from our perspective as Muslims,

02:04:17 --> 02:04:19

we have no problem saying that it is

02:04:19 --> 02:04:20

possible that many of these differences

02:04:21 --> 02:04:23

between c one and the Uthmani codex are

02:04:23 --> 02:04:25

due to the revealed 7 Ahroof. In other

02:04:25 --> 02:04:29

words, it's possible that 2 193 was also

02:04:29 --> 02:04:30

revealed as,

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and that the Uthmani committee, you know, stabilized

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the

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based upon the most prevalent reading.

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With with this verse specifically, however, it just

02:04:41 --> 02:04:43

seems like a scribal error. Right? So so

02:04:43 --> 02:04:46

so here's the conclusion of of Sadat and

02:04:46 --> 02:04:48

and Yuy Bergman about the Yemeni palimpsests, and

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I'll end this section,

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with this quote.

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They say,

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in any case, textual criticism suggests

02:04:57 --> 02:04:59

the standard version. What do they mean by

02:04:59 --> 02:05:01

standard version? They mean the Uthmani textual tradition.

02:05:02 --> 02:05:05

The standard version is the most faithful representation

02:05:06 --> 02:05:07

among the known codices

02:05:08 --> 02:05:10

of the Quran as recited by the prophet.

02:05:11 --> 02:05:14

This appears at first as a curious coincidence,

02:05:14 --> 02:05:16

but on second thought, it is not surprising.

02:05:16 --> 02:05:18

If anyone had the resources to ensure that

02:05:18 --> 02:05:20

a reliable version be chosen, it would have

02:05:20 --> 02:05:21

been the caliph.

02:05:21 --> 02:05:23

And if anyone had more to lose by

02:05:23 --> 02:05:25

botching up the task, again, it would have

02:05:25 --> 02:05:28

been Uthman, whose political legitimacy and efficacy as

02:05:28 --> 02:05:30

caliph dependent completely

02:05:30 --> 02:05:32

on the goodwill of fellow distinguished associates of

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the prophet. The remarkable few and minor skeletal

02:05:35 --> 02:05:36

morphemic

02:05:36 --> 02:05:39

differences among the codices with Monsanto the cities

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is another indication of the care that was

02:05:41 --> 02:05:43

put into the process of standardization.

02:05:44 --> 02:05:46

And, I'll talk about those minor skeletal morphemic

02:05:46 --> 02:05:48

differences in a minute here.

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Okay.

02:05:50 --> 02:05:51

Okay. Now,

02:05:52 --> 02:05:55

at this point, I wanna talk about

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how we go from the Uthmani

02:05:58 --> 02:05:59

Masahif

02:05:59 --> 02:06:02

to the 10 authorized Qira'at. In other words,

02:06:02 --> 02:06:04

how do we go from the Uthmanite textual

02:06:04 --> 02:06:05

tradition

02:06:05 --> 02:06:07

to the canonical reading traditions?

02:06:08 --> 02:06:10

Okay. So the caliph Uthman,

02:06:10 --> 02:06:11

Radhulahu

02:06:11 --> 02:06:13

Anhu, he sent 4, 5,

02:06:14 --> 02:06:16

7, up to 11 copies of the Medina

02:06:16 --> 02:06:19

master codex to these amsar, these major Muslim

02:06:20 --> 02:06:20

metropolitan

02:06:21 --> 02:06:24

areas. There are various reports. According to Suyuti,

02:06:24 --> 02:06:26

the most popular report states that he made

02:06:26 --> 02:06:26

5 copies

02:06:27 --> 02:06:28

of the master codex

02:06:28 --> 02:06:30

and sent them to Mecca, Basar al Kufa,

02:06:30 --> 02:06:30

Damascus,

02:06:31 --> 02:06:32

and another one in Medina.

02:06:33 --> 02:06:36

However, these codices were obviously unvouled.

02:06:37 --> 02:06:37

Right?

02:06:38 --> 02:06:39

So, the diacritical system had not yet been

02:06:39 --> 02:06:41

invented. So, Abu Aswadaduwali

02:06:42 --> 02:06:43

would develop an early form of them a

02:06:43 --> 02:06:44

bit later.

02:06:44 --> 02:06:46

But these codices were also dotless

02:06:47 --> 02:06:49

and dots were used by the Arabs at

02:06:49 --> 02:06:51

the time. So, why didn't Usman

02:06:51 --> 02:06:52

dot his codices?

02:06:53 --> 02:06:55

Well, the answer is very simple. By leaving

02:06:55 --> 02:06:56

the rusum,

02:06:57 --> 02:07:00

right, the continental skeletons of these codices undotted,

02:07:00 --> 02:07:03

Uthman allowed for the akhruf to be accommodated

02:07:03 --> 02:07:04

by reciters.

02:07:05 --> 02:07:07

So reciters in these amsar could plug into

02:07:07 --> 02:07:08

the text

02:07:08 --> 02:07:12

the divinely revealed akhruf, the recitational variances given

02:07:12 --> 02:07:13

to the prophet.

02:07:13 --> 02:07:14

And definitively

02:07:15 --> 02:07:17

dotting the text would have severely limited their

02:07:17 --> 02:07:17

abilities

02:07:18 --> 02:07:20

to do this. Again, the text of the

02:07:20 --> 02:07:22

Quran had always been multiformic,

02:07:23 --> 02:07:23

not uniformic

02:07:24 --> 02:07:26

since the time of the prophet. And so,

02:07:26 --> 02:07:27

if man wanted

02:07:27 --> 02:07:28

that key

02:07:34 --> 02:07:35

stabilized the text once and for all, and

02:07:35 --> 02:07:37

that's true. But

02:07:38 --> 02:07:40

how would all of the Ahruf in their

02:07:40 --> 02:07:40

totality

02:07:41 --> 02:07:43

be accommodated by the Uthmani codices, hence the

02:07:43 --> 02:07:44

Uthmani

02:07:44 --> 02:07:46

textual tradition? Well, the

02:07:46 --> 02:07:49

most coherent answer is that they were not

02:07:49 --> 02:07:51

all accommodated in their totality.

02:07:51 --> 02:07:53

So it is not the opinion of our

02:07:53 --> 02:07:54

classical scholars

02:07:54 --> 02:07:55

that the totality

02:07:55 --> 02:07:56

of the

02:07:57 --> 02:07:59

akhir must be preserved and recited in order

02:07:59 --> 02:08:01

for the Quran to be preserved. As long

02:08:01 --> 02:08:04

as at least 1 harf is presented of

02:08:04 --> 02:08:07

any given verse, then the Quran is preserved.

02:08:07 --> 02:08:09

Okay? This is Imam Al Jazari,

02:08:09 --> 02:08:10

Ibn Hajj al Askalani,

02:08:11 --> 02:08:14

Makki ibn Abi Talib. Not all the akhruf

02:08:14 --> 02:08:15

in their totality

02:08:15 --> 02:08:16

are contained

02:08:17 --> 02:08:19

within the Uthmani textual tradition. That is not

02:08:19 --> 02:08:20

necessary.

02:08:20 --> 02:08:23

Remember, the Ahruf were given as a concession,

02:08:23 --> 02:08:27

a Ruksa. Right? And so, one may abandon

02:08:27 --> 02:08:28

a concession. So

02:08:28 --> 02:08:30

this is why, for example,

02:08:30 --> 02:08:33

all of the Uthmanic codices read Ihin, right,

02:08:33 --> 02:08:34

in Sura 101 verse 5.

02:08:37 --> 02:08:39

And not suf al manfush as we said.

02:08:39 --> 02:08:41

If suf was revealed as a haraf, it

02:08:41 --> 02:08:43

did not, it did not need to be

02:08:43 --> 02:08:44

accommodated.

02:08:44 --> 02:08:47

And having rusum that were at odds

02:08:47 --> 02:08:49

would have caused more turmoil among the provinces.

02:08:50 --> 02:08:52

We talked about that. So the committee chose

02:08:52 --> 02:08:54

Ihmin al Manfush because that was the more

02:08:54 --> 02:08:56

popular reading, the more

02:08:57 --> 02:09:00

widespread rendition of the prophetic archetype.

02:09:00 --> 02:09:02

And so, that's what they wrote in all

02:09:02 --> 02:09:04

of the regional codices. But even with this

02:09:04 --> 02:09:06

said, okay, even with this said, Uthman did

02:09:06 --> 02:09:08

allow for a slight variance

02:09:08 --> 02:09:10

in the rusum of his codices

02:09:10 --> 02:09:12

when it came to some particular

02:09:12 --> 02:09:13

variations,

02:09:14 --> 02:09:15

prepositions and particles,

02:09:15 --> 02:09:16

but not

02:09:17 --> 02:09:19

words or phrases. So according to, Abu Urbeid,

02:09:19 --> 02:09:22

Ibous Salam, with month 6 codices, we're in

02:09:22 --> 02:09:23

99.999

02:09:24 --> 02:09:25

percent agreement

02:09:25 --> 02:09:26

in the Rusum.

02:09:26 --> 02:09:28

There was a difference of 43 characters

02:09:29 --> 02:09:30

out of almost

02:09:30 --> 02:09:31

374,000

02:09:31 --> 02:09:33

characters, and this was intentional.

02:09:33 --> 02:09:36

So the committee did accommodate for a few

02:09:36 --> 02:09:37

of the well attested

02:09:38 --> 02:09:39

particular variations

02:09:39 --> 02:09:41

that very slightly altered the Rusum.

02:09:42 --> 02:09:45

Okay. The the the continental skeleton. For example,

02:09:45 --> 02:09:47

in the Meccan codex, in the codex sent

02:09:47 --> 02:09:49

to Mecca, okay, there is an there is

02:09:49 --> 02:09:53

an additional preposition min in verse 100 of

02:09:53 --> 02:09:54

the 9th Surah.

02:09:54 --> 02:09:56

Okay. That does not appear into other codices.

02:09:56 --> 02:09:58

So that is 2 characters, a mem and

02:09:58 --> 02:09:59

a nun.

02:09:59 --> 02:10:01

Alright. There are a few more of these

02:10:01 --> 02:10:04

totaling 43 characters across 6 codices.

02:10:05 --> 02:10:07

So again, these were intentional. They were accommodating

02:10:08 --> 02:10:09

various authorized readings.

02:10:11 --> 02:10:12

But here's another question.

02:10:13 --> 02:10:15

How did the reciters living in these AMSAR,

02:10:15 --> 02:10:16

living in these

02:10:17 --> 02:10:19

regional provinces, how did they know how to

02:10:19 --> 02:10:22

plug the across into the rassel?

02:10:23 --> 02:10:24

How did they know how to read

02:10:25 --> 02:10:28

an unvoweled, undotted text? Was it all just

02:10:28 --> 02:10:28

guesswork?

02:10:29 --> 02:10:32

Now classical orientalists like Gold Zeyer and Arthur

02:10:32 --> 02:10:32

Jeffery,

02:10:33 --> 02:10:35

they they used to claim that indeed reciters

02:10:35 --> 02:10:36

were at total liberty

02:10:37 --> 02:10:39

to vowel and dot the text however they

02:10:39 --> 02:10:41

wanted. As long as the text made some

02:10:41 --> 02:10:43

sort of sense to them, it was all

02:10:43 --> 02:10:43

good.

02:10:43 --> 02:10:46

And this is why different reading traditions

02:10:46 --> 02:10:48

eventually developed according to these orientalists.

02:10:49 --> 02:10:51

And today, some, you know, neo orientalists and

02:10:51 --> 02:10:53

Christian polemicists still still say this.

02:10:53 --> 02:10:55

This claim is demonstrably

02:10:55 --> 02:10:58

false, and and I'll show you why here

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in a minute here. But first, what else

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do our sources

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say about what Uthman did? So Uthman, mashaAllah,

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did an incredible service for this religion. He

02:11:08 --> 02:11:10

did not simply send these codices

02:11:10 --> 02:11:12

to these cities without guidance.

02:11:13 --> 02:11:16

With He sent with each codex a master

02:11:16 --> 02:11:16

Qari,

02:11:17 --> 02:11:20

a trained reciter of the Quran, who was

02:11:20 --> 02:11:21

either a companion of the prophet or a

02:11:21 --> 02:11:22

student of a companion

02:11:23 --> 02:11:25

who had mastered how to read his respective

02:11:25 --> 02:11:26

codex

02:11:26 --> 02:11:29

upon all of its possible and authentically transmitted.

02:11:30 --> 02:11:32

So for example, he sent Al Muhirah ibn

02:11:32 --> 02:11:33

Shihab,

02:11:33 --> 02:11:34

to Syria,

02:11:35 --> 02:11:36

with the damascene codex.

02:11:37 --> 02:11:39

He sent Abdul Abdul Salami to Kufa with

02:11:39 --> 02:11:41

the Kufin codex, etcetera.

02:11:41 --> 02:11:44

So it was these committee appointed Quran

02:11:45 --> 02:11:47

who taught the regional Quran, the regional reciters,

02:11:48 --> 02:11:50

how to read the codices. And I'll demonstrate

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this, in in in a minute. Imam al

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Sayyuti quoted Zayd ibn Thabit, who said, al

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qira'a sunnah. Right? Recitation

02:11:58 --> 02:11:59

is sunnah, I e, it is from the

02:11:59 --> 02:12:00

prophet.

02:12:00 --> 02:12:03

All of this was talati. The recitation of

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the Quran was passed down verbatim,

02:12:05 --> 02:12:07

from teacher to student,

02:12:07 --> 02:12:09

teacher to student, okay,

02:12:09 --> 02:12:11

until it reached us. Okay. So how does

02:12:11 --> 02:12:13

this work? So so imagine,

02:12:14 --> 02:12:17

Abdul Rahman al Sunami arrives in Kufa with

02:12:17 --> 02:12:17

his codex.

02:12:18 --> 02:12:20

He arrives from Medina sent by Uthman.

02:12:21 --> 02:12:23

Ibn Mas'ud's textual tradition,

02:12:23 --> 02:12:26

right, was already popular in Kufa when al

02:12:26 --> 02:12:27

Sunami arrived.

02:12:27 --> 02:12:29

However, many of the readings

02:12:30 --> 02:12:32

of ibn Mas'ud were either abrogated by the

02:12:32 --> 02:12:35

prophet during his final mu'a'a with Gabriel,

02:12:36 --> 02:12:38

or they were abandoned by the committee because

02:12:38 --> 02:12:40

they were not strongly backed by the majority

02:12:40 --> 02:12:42

of the companions in Medina, and Uthman wanted

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to stabilize the text.

02:12:44 --> 02:12:47

However, by and large, the Uthmani textual tradition

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and the textual tradition of Ibn Mas'ud were

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in total agreement, as we said. In fact,

02:12:51 --> 02:12:54

as as we said, the the Uthmani textual

02:12:54 --> 02:12:55

tradition was based upon

02:12:55 --> 02:12:56

the strongest

02:12:57 --> 02:12:59

readings of the companions, including many of the

02:12:59 --> 02:13:01

readings of the Ibn Mas'ud. This is why

02:13:01 --> 02:13:04

Abdullah ibn Mas'ud is mentioned in the Isnaad

02:13:04 --> 02:13:07

of Hafs and Asan along with other Sahaba.

02:13:07 --> 02:13:08

Right?

02:13:08 --> 02:13:09

So the Isnaad begins

02:13:10 --> 02:13:12

with the prophet sallallahu alaihi wasallam and then

02:13:12 --> 02:13:15

Ali ibn Abi Talib and Abdullah ibn Mas'ud

02:13:15 --> 02:13:17

and Ubay ibn

02:13:17 --> 02:13:19

Nukah, and Zayd ibn Nusabit, and others, but

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these are the most imminent. Then Abdulrahman al

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Sulami, the master party who brought the Kufin

02:13:24 --> 02:13:26

codex from Medina.

02:13:26 --> 02:13:29

Then his most prominent student, Assim, ibn Abi

02:13:29 --> 02:13:30

Najood.

02:13:30 --> 02:13:32

Then one of his most prominent students, Hafs

02:13:32 --> 02:13:34

ugne ibn Sulayman.

02:13:34 --> 02:13:35

Okay?

02:13:35 --> 02:13:37

So here's another question,

02:13:37 --> 02:13:41

though. How did how did Assam vowel and

02:13:41 --> 02:13:43

dot his his regional codex?

02:13:43 --> 02:13:46

You know? Did he have, you know, absolute

02:13:46 --> 02:13:47

free reign

02:13:47 --> 02:13:49

to vowel and dot whatever he wanted,

02:13:50 --> 02:13:50

as long as the,

02:13:51 --> 02:13:52

text made sense?

02:13:55 --> 02:13:57

Or did he have no choice whatsoever?

02:13:58 --> 02:14:00

The answer is in the middle. So he

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had what's known as.

02:14:02 --> 02:14:05

He had the ability to choose, but only

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from a,

02:14:06 --> 02:14:08

from among a fixed number of variants

02:14:08 --> 02:14:11

that all had origin in the prophetic archetype.

02:14:11 --> 02:14:13

Okay. So variants that were taught to him

02:14:13 --> 02:14:14

by his teacher,

02:14:14 --> 02:14:17

Abdulrahman al Sulami, who mastered

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with money, textual tradition with all of its

02:14:19 --> 02:14:22

possible akhov. Variants that had strong and connected

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chains of transmission.

02:14:24 --> 02:14:24

Okay.

02:14:25 --> 02:14:25

So reciters

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were obligated to fulfill 3 conditions

02:14:29 --> 02:14:31

when they chose their readings. Okay. So in

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other words, in order for their readings to

02:14:33 --> 02:14:34

be correct and authorized,

02:14:35 --> 02:14:36

they must fulfill 3 conditions.

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Number 1, their readings must be incorrect sorry.

02:14:41 --> 02:14:43

Must be in agreement with the rasim of

02:14:43 --> 02:14:45

at least one of the Uthmani codices.

02:14:46 --> 02:14:48

Number 2, their readings must be mass transmitted,

02:14:48 --> 02:14:51

that is transmitted through generations after generations

02:14:51 --> 02:14:54

of reciters with uninterrupted change of transmission

02:14:54 --> 02:14:56

tracing back to the prophet sallallahu alaihi wasallam.

02:14:57 --> 02:14:57

And number

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3 is more secondary.

02:15:00 --> 02:15:02

Their readings must be incorrect Arabic. And I

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say secondary because there's nothing mass transmitted that

02:15:05 --> 02:15:08

agrees with the Uthmani textual tradition that is

02:15:08 --> 02:15:09

an incorrect Arabic.

02:15:09 --> 02:15:11

In other words, if the first two conditions

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are met, the third is automatically met. Now,

02:15:14 --> 02:15:15

now, Van Putin claims that there is an

02:15:15 --> 02:15:19

authorized reading in the Uthmani textual tradition that

02:15:19 --> 02:15:21

is in incorrect Arabic and that and that

02:15:21 --> 02:15:22

the Quran contains

02:15:23 --> 02:15:26

a grammatical error. This is false. He's he's

02:15:26 --> 02:15:28

wrong. We'll we'll look at that. And also

02:15:28 --> 02:15:31

some of the claims of, Shadi Nasser in

02:15:31 --> 02:15:33

part 2 of this of this series inshallah.

02:15:34 --> 02:15:35

We actually look at the content of the

02:15:35 --> 02:15:37

Quran, the style of the Quran.

02:15:37 --> 02:15:39

Now, in the 4th century Hijri,

02:15:40 --> 02:15:42

okay, an Iraqi scholar named Abu Bakr ibn

02:15:42 --> 02:15:43

Mujahid

02:15:44 --> 02:15:47

wrote a famous book called Kitabu Saba Kitabu

02:15:47 --> 02:15:48

Saba for the Quran.

02:15:48 --> 02:15:51

Okay? He died in, 936

02:15:51 --> 02:15:53

of the common era. Now now during his

02:15:53 --> 02:15:55

time, there were many, many

02:15:55 --> 02:15:57

correct reading tradition

02:15:57 --> 02:16:01

things. Okay. Qara'at within the Uthmani textual tradition.

02:16:01 --> 02:16:03

Dozens of Qara'at had had risen to prominence,

02:16:04 --> 02:16:06

over the last couple of centuries.

02:16:06 --> 02:16:09

Ibn Mujahid, he chose 7 of these popular

02:16:09 --> 02:16:10

reading traditions

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and he documented them in his book Kitabu

02:16:13 --> 02:16:16

Saba. Okay? So these are ibn Amr, Abu

02:16:16 --> 02:16:16

Amr,

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ibn Kathir, Nafi, Hamza, Al Kisai, and Asim.

02:16:20 --> 02:16:23

Okay? But two points here that I'll make.

02:16:23 --> 02:16:27

These reading traditions were already very popular even

02:16:27 --> 02:16:28

before ibn Mujahed was born.

02:16:29 --> 02:16:31

Okay? This fact is mentioned explicitly by a

02:16:31 --> 02:16:33

Suyuti in the Iqan, And this is why

02:16:33 --> 02:16:35

even Mujahid, you know, chose that. His his

02:16:35 --> 02:16:37

choosing of them probably

02:16:37 --> 02:16:39

made them more popular, but they were already

02:16:39 --> 02:16:40

popular.

02:16:40 --> 02:16:41

Abu Ubaid

02:16:42 --> 02:16:43

made mention of these reading traditions

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before Ibn Mujahid.

02:16:45 --> 02:16:48

Suyuti said that by the end of 2nd

02:16:48 --> 02:16:50

century, Hijri, before ibn Mujahid, he said people

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were upon the readings of Abu Amr, Hamza,

02:16:53 --> 02:16:56

Asin, ibn A'amr, ibn Kathir al Nafi.

02:16:57 --> 02:16:58

The second point is that

02:16:59 --> 02:17:01

each one of these eponymous Quran

02:17:01 --> 02:17:05

highlighted by, Ibn Mujahid had a multitude of

02:17:05 --> 02:17:05

students

02:17:06 --> 02:17:09

who had been transmitting the Quran from them.

02:17:09 --> 02:17:10

So these were huge,

02:17:11 --> 02:17:11

vibrant

02:17:11 --> 02:17:12

reading traditions.

02:17:13 --> 02:17:16

Okay. One of these eponymous Quran, Ibn Amr

02:17:18 --> 02:17:20

learned the Quran under the companion of the

02:17:20 --> 02:17:22

prophet Abu Darda. This is according to Ibn

02:17:22 --> 02:17:24

Asakir in his, Tariq Dimash, in his history

02:17:24 --> 02:17:25

of Damascus.

02:17:26 --> 02:17:28

Ibn Amr learned the Quran from Abu Darda

02:17:28 --> 02:17:31

who had 1600 students. So, Ibn Amr was

02:17:31 --> 02:17:32

one

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of the 1600 students, 1600 students of, of

02:17:35 --> 02:17:36

Abu Darda.

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One companion had 1600 students. Now, imagine how

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many total students

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from the Tabi'im, right, from the 2nd generation

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there were, from all of the Sahaba

02:17:47 --> 02:17:50

who transmitted and taught the Quran. So even

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if 10 percent So there's 100,000 companions of

02:17:53 --> 02:17:55

the prophet, right? Even if 10% of the

02:17:55 --> 02:17:56

Sahaba

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were

02:17:57 --> 02:18:00

transmitting the Quran, that's 10,000 Sahaba. If each

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just had 50 students, that's half a 1000000

02:18:03 --> 02:18:04

students

02:18:04 --> 02:18:05

in the 2nd generation.

02:18:06 --> 02:18:07

So in reality, the numbers are in the

02:18:07 --> 02:18:08

millions.

02:18:08 --> 02:18:10

This is called mass transmission.

02:18:11 --> 02:18:12

This is called Tawato.

02:18:13 --> 02:18:15

Okay. Now this is very important to understand.

02:18:17 --> 02:18:18

Over time,

02:18:18 --> 02:18:20

many people erroneously

02:18:20 --> 02:18:21

conflated

02:18:22 --> 02:18:23

these 7 reading traditions,

02:18:24 --> 02:18:25

okay?

02:18:26 --> 02:18:29

These 7 reading traditions in Ibn Mujahid's book

02:18:29 --> 02:18:30

with the 7

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aharuf because it's the same number. Right? And

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so many people started to say that there

02:18:35 --> 02:18:37

were only 7 correct

02:18:38 --> 02:18:40

meeting traditions because the prophet said the Quran

02:18:40 --> 02:18:42

was revealed upon 7 Ahroof. This, of course,

02:18:42 --> 02:18:43

was a major misunderstanding.

02:18:44 --> 02:18:46

The Qur'at and Ahroof are not the same

02:18:46 --> 02:18:49

things, but they started to say, you know,

02:18:49 --> 02:18:51

Asim is 1 Haruf and Nafir is 1

02:18:51 --> 02:18:53

Haruf and Ibn Amr is 1 Hafno. Asim

02:18:53 --> 02:18:55

and Nafir and Ibn Amr are Qira'at

02:18:56 --> 02:18:57

that drew from the

02:18:57 --> 02:19:00

pool of the 7 aqif. Okay. So that's

02:19:00 --> 02:19:02

a very important distinction. Now, at this point,

02:19:02 --> 02:19:03

Abu Amr Adani,

02:19:04 --> 02:19:06

he basically simplified Ibn Mujahid's text.

02:19:07 --> 02:19:10

Okay. So Adani chose 2 popular students

02:19:11 --> 02:19:14

of each of the 7 eponymous horah

02:19:15 --> 02:19:16

and documented their readings.

02:19:17 --> 02:19:19

Okay. So these are called the 2 Rahweis

02:19:19 --> 02:19:20

or canonical transmitters.

02:19:21 --> 02:19:22

Okay. So in Kufa, the reading tradition of

02:19:22 --> 02:19:25

Asim became popular. We mentioned that. But how

02:19:25 --> 02:19:27

did it become popular? It became popular through

02:19:27 --> 02:19:29

his 2 top students.

02:19:29 --> 02:19:32

One was Shurba, and one was Hafs ibnusuleiman.

02:19:33 --> 02:19:35

Okay? The reading traditions of Shurba and Hafs

02:19:35 --> 02:19:36

were documented by Adani

02:19:38 --> 02:19:40

and eventually standardized with the vowing and dotting.

02:19:40 --> 02:19:43

So this really makes 14 canonical and authorized

02:19:43 --> 02:19:44

reading traditions.

02:19:44 --> 02:19:45

7 eponymous

02:19:46 --> 02:19:49

ura through their 2 respective ra'wee. So 7

02:19:49 --> 02:19:50

times 2 is 14.

02:19:52 --> 02:19:54

Okay. About 4 centuries after,

02:19:55 --> 02:19:55

ibn Mujahid,

02:19:56 --> 02:19:58

Imam Shamsuddin al Jazadi,

02:19:58 --> 02:20:01

whom Suyuti considered the greatest scholar ever in

02:20:01 --> 02:20:02

the field of qira'at,

02:20:02 --> 02:20:06

He wrote a masterpiece called Kitabu Nasar Filqira'atir

02:20:06 --> 02:20:08

Asar. So al Jazari died 14/29

02:20:09 --> 02:20:10

of the common era.

02:20:10 --> 02:20:13

And so Imam al Jazari said that in

02:20:13 --> 02:20:16

fact, the reading traditions of Yaqub al Basri,

02:20:16 --> 02:20:17

Abu Jafar

02:20:18 --> 02:20:20

al Madani, and Khalaf al Baghdadi,

02:20:20 --> 02:20:24

transmitted through their respective Rawis were also correct

02:20:24 --> 02:20:26

and had always been correct and mass transmitted

02:20:26 --> 02:20:28

and multiply tested. And so there are 20

02:20:28 --> 02:20:32

canonical reading traditions. So so 10 eponymous fora

02:20:32 --> 02:20:35

through their respective two raus. And today, about

02:20:35 --> 02:20:37

95% of the Sunni world

02:20:38 --> 02:20:39

reads

02:20:40 --> 02:20:42

Hafs and Asim, right? So, the reading tradition

02:20:42 --> 02:20:46

of Qari Asim through his Ra'i, his transmitter

02:20:46 --> 02:20:46

Has.

02:20:47 --> 02:20:49

3% reads Warash and Nafir.

02:20:49 --> 02:20:52

And the remaining, 2% are divided between Qalun

02:20:52 --> 02:20:53

and Nafir and probably

02:20:54 --> 02:20:55

ibn Nudhaqwan

02:20:55 --> 02:20:56

and ibn,

02:20:57 --> 02:20:57

an ibn

02:20:58 --> 02:20:59

Amr and Aduri,

02:21:00 --> 02:21:01

and Abi

02:21:02 --> 02:21:02

Amr.

02:21:03 --> 02:21:05

The other 15 are studied

02:21:05 --> 02:21:06

and memorized

02:21:06 --> 02:21:08

and known by Quran masters, but not so

02:21:08 --> 02:21:09

much recited in public

02:21:10 --> 02:21:12

congregational, prayers. By the way, there's a there's

02:21:12 --> 02:21:13

a really good website called

02:21:14 --> 02:21:14

nnquran.com,

02:21:16 --> 02:21:17

n as in newspaper,

02:21:17 --> 02:21:19

Quran.com. It's in Arabic,

02:21:19 --> 02:21:20

but,

02:21:21 --> 02:21:22

it shows you,

02:21:23 --> 02:21:24

you put in any verse in the Quran,

02:21:24 --> 02:21:27

it'll show you what what every single Rahi,

02:21:27 --> 02:21:29

what every single transmitter from from the 10,

02:21:30 --> 02:21:30

eponymous,

02:21:31 --> 02:21:33

readers, how they read that particular,

02:21:33 --> 02:21:33

verse.

02:21:35 --> 02:21:37

Now there are 2 things concerning this topic

02:21:37 --> 02:21:37

that

02:21:38 --> 02:21:40

love to point out here. Okay? So I'm

02:21:40 --> 02:21:41

gonna mention them.

02:21:41 --> 02:21:43

Ibn Mujahid, right, he chose

02:21:44 --> 02:21:45

these seven reading traditions,

02:21:46 --> 02:21:49

but he also criticized and disagreed with some

02:21:49 --> 02:21:50

individual articulations

02:21:51 --> 02:21:52

of a few words. So this is true.

02:21:52 --> 02:21:54

First of all, he never criticized anything in

02:21:54 --> 02:21:57

Assam, Nafir and Abu Amr, which is

02:21:58 --> 02:22:00

basically the entire Ummah today. But he did

02:22:01 --> 02:22:03

criticize ibn Amr a few times, and Hamza

02:22:03 --> 02:22:06

once, and I think Kunbul, one of the

02:22:06 --> 02:22:07

transmitters of bin Kathir,

02:22:07 --> 02:22:08

I think once.

02:22:09 --> 02:22:10

So I mean, it's like a total of

02:22:10 --> 02:22:14

6 or 8 words across 7 teraat that

02:22:14 --> 02:22:16

you disagreed with. So so the Quran is

02:22:16 --> 02:22:17

roughly 77

02:22:18 --> 02:22:19

1,000 words, 77,000

02:22:20 --> 02:22:22

times 7, qira'at is about 540,000

02:22:23 --> 02:22:24

words. So, out of 540,000

02:22:25 --> 02:22:27

words, Ibn Mujahid disagreed with 6 or 8

02:22:27 --> 02:22:29

of them. Okay. So I'll give you an

02:22:29 --> 02:22:31

example of what we're dealing with here. So

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he disagreed with Qumbul, Qumbul's reading of chapter

02:22:34 --> 02:22:35

96

02:22:35 --> 02:22:38

verse 7. So I'll recite the dominant reading

02:22:38 --> 02:22:40

among the eponymous readers,

02:22:40 --> 02:22:43

and then I'll recite Kumbul's reading. So this

02:22:43 --> 02:22:46

is the reading he agreed with, Arra'ahu Stavana.

02:22:47 --> 02:22:48

Right? Arra'ahu

02:22:48 --> 02:22:50

Stavana. And here's kumbul,

02:22:50 --> 02:22:51

Arra'ahu Stavana.

02:22:52 --> 02:22:53

Now

02:22:53 --> 02:22:56

not much different, sounds pretty much the same.

02:22:57 --> 02:22:59

You know, I think this is ibn Mujahid

02:22:59 --> 02:23:00

just nitpicking.

02:23:01 --> 02:23:03

The polemicists, however, you know, they're they're turning

02:23:03 --> 02:23:06

this into the longer ending of Mark. Right?

02:23:06 --> 02:23:09

So even even Mujahid also criticized one word

02:23:09 --> 02:23:10

in the entire Quran of

02:23:11 --> 02:23:13

of Hamza. Right? It's in chapter 18 verse

02:23:13 --> 02:23:16

97 of the Quran. So here's the dominant

02:23:16 --> 02:23:18

reading and then Hamza's

02:23:18 --> 02:23:20

read. So the dominant reading says, Famastah'u.

02:23:21 --> 02:23:22

Again, Famastah'u.

02:23:23 --> 02:23:24

Now hamza. Famastaru.

02:23:25 --> 02:23:27

Okay. Now maybe you didn't pick up on

02:23:27 --> 02:23:29

the difference. I mean, that is that is

02:23:29 --> 02:23:30

literally

02:23:30 --> 02:23:33

the different again, this is ibn Mujahid sort

02:23:33 --> 02:23:35

of nitpicking, but this is the hill that

02:23:35 --> 02:23:35

these polemices

02:23:36 --> 02:23:37

really want to die on.

02:23:39 --> 02:23:41

Now Christian apologists, they enjoy citing an essay

02:23:41 --> 02:23:43

by, Gabriel Saeed Reynolds,

02:23:43 --> 02:23:45

in in a compendium called the Quran and

02:23:45 --> 02:23:46

its historical context,

02:23:47 --> 02:23:49

where Reynolds, who's also the editor of the

02:23:49 --> 02:23:51

book, he goes into some of these things.

02:23:52 --> 02:23:53

But Reynolds actually says, and this is a

02:23:53 --> 02:23:56

quote from him, ibn Mujahid argued that there

02:23:56 --> 02:23:57

are 7 equal

02:23:58 --> 02:23:59

valid Qur'at.

02:24:00 --> 02:24:03

Ibn Mujahid argued that there are 7 equally

02:24:03 --> 02:24:04

valid Qur'at.

02:24:04 --> 02:24:06

And that's true. This is why ibn Mujahid

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wrote his book in the first place. So

02:24:08 --> 02:24:10

so which is it? Is is ibn Mujahid

02:24:10 --> 02:24:12

saying that these 7 are all valid? Or

02:24:12 --> 02:24:14

is he saying that there are errors and

02:24:14 --> 02:24:16

mistakes in some of them? Like readings in

02:24:16 --> 02:24:19

Hamza, in Ibn Amr, in Punbul that I

02:24:19 --> 02:24:20

mentioned earlier.

02:24:20 --> 02:24:23

And so, these are invalid. Which is it?

02:24:23 --> 02:24:25

Is it valid or invalid? So how do

02:24:25 --> 02:24:27

we harmonize these things? Well, it's simple.

02:24:28 --> 02:24:30

Ibn Mujahed did believe that these were equally

02:24:30 --> 02:24:31

valid qaraat

02:24:32 --> 02:24:34

because they were multiply tested. They conformed to

02:24:34 --> 02:24:36

the Uthmani Rasam, and they were in sound

02:24:36 --> 02:24:38

Arabic. But he simply

02:24:38 --> 02:24:40

did not prefer them, these 6 or so

02:24:40 --> 02:24:41

words,

02:24:41 --> 02:24:44

these few words, half a dozen words. There

02:24:44 --> 02:24:46

were strange articulations to him that should be

02:24:46 --> 02:24:49

avoided. That makes the most sense. Okay?

02:24:50 --> 02:24:53

But, okay, let's say for argument's sake, that

02:24:53 --> 02:24:55

indeed, ibn Mujahid believed

02:24:56 --> 02:24:57

in his heart of hearts

02:24:58 --> 02:25:00

that these 6 or 8 words, okay, were

02:25:00 --> 02:25:03

incorrect and he rejected them as being revealed

02:25:03 --> 02:25:05

to the prophet. They're not the Quran.

02:25:05 --> 02:25:07

Here's my response. So, what? That was one

02:25:07 --> 02:25:10

man's opinion. Ibn Mujahid was a great scholar,

02:25:10 --> 02:25:12

but he was not the be all end

02:25:12 --> 02:25:13

all when it came to the Tarahat.

02:25:14 --> 02:25:16

Our religion is not built upon the opinion

02:25:16 --> 02:25:17

of 1 scholar.

02:25:17 --> 02:25:18

It's

02:25:18 --> 02:25:20

built upon the jama'a, the overwhelming majority. This

02:25:20 --> 02:25:23

is why we're called ahlusunam al jama'a. Right?

02:25:23 --> 02:25:26

The the qira'at of the 7 eponymous readers

02:25:26 --> 02:25:29

selected by Ibn Mujahid for his book were

02:25:29 --> 02:25:32

universally accepted as being valid before and after

02:25:32 --> 02:25:32

Ibn Mujahid.

02:25:33 --> 02:25:35

So Ibn Mujahid was simply wrong to disagree

02:25:35 --> 02:25:37

with and reject those few articulations.

02:25:38 --> 02:25:40

Right? The prophet sallallahu alaihi wasalam, he said,

02:25:40 --> 02:25:41

yadullahi alaljama'a.

02:25:42 --> 02:25:44

Very famous hadith. If we were to make

02:25:44 --> 02:25:46

taweeel of this hadith, the protection of god

02:25:46 --> 02:25:47

is with the majority.

02:25:48 --> 02:25:49

Right?

02:25:49 --> 02:25:51

Now here's the second thing that these polemicists

02:25:51 --> 02:25:52

like to point out.

02:25:53 --> 02:25:56

The fact that some traditional Muslim scholars criticized

02:25:56 --> 02:25:58

Hafs, Imam Hafs,

02:25:59 --> 02:26:01

with respect to his knowledge of hadith, that

02:26:01 --> 02:26:03

he was weak in hadith or that he's

02:26:03 --> 02:26:05

rejected in hadith.

02:26:05 --> 02:26:07

So how how are we taking Quran from

02:26:07 --> 02:26:10

him? My my response again here is, so

02:26:10 --> 02:26:10

what?

02:26:11 --> 02:26:13

Hadith was not his takhasus, was not his

02:26:13 --> 02:26:14

specialty.

02:26:14 --> 02:26:17

Okay? Many of the best Quran today, many

02:26:17 --> 02:26:20

of the best reciters of the Quran, masters

02:26:20 --> 02:26:23

of the Quran today are not necessarily masters

02:26:23 --> 02:26:24

or scholars of Hadith.

02:26:24 --> 02:26:26

They're masters, they're a'mma

02:26:26 --> 02:26:28

of the Quran, of Qira'at,

02:26:29 --> 02:26:31

right? Their focus was on the Quran. The

02:26:31 --> 02:26:33

focus of Hafs ibn Sulayman was on the

02:26:33 --> 02:26:35

Quran. That's number 1. He was an absolute

02:26:35 --> 02:26:36

master of the Quran.

02:26:37 --> 02:26:37

Number 2,

02:26:38 --> 02:26:40

the Hadith scholars who criticized his knowledge of

02:26:40 --> 02:26:43

Hadith praised him in his transmission and recitation

02:26:43 --> 02:26:45

of the Quran. So these are 2 separate

02:26:45 --> 02:26:46

disciplines. Right?

02:26:47 --> 02:26:49

There is not a single example of a

02:26:49 --> 02:26:51

traditional Sunni scholar,

02:26:51 --> 02:26:55

quoting a gara'a of Imam Hafs and claiming

02:26:55 --> 02:26:57

that it's fabricated or somehow

02:26:58 --> 02:27:01

falsified. So the polemicists are once again clutching

02:27:01 --> 02:27:02

its straws here.

02:27:04 --> 02:27:05

Now

02:27:06 --> 02:27:09

now a popular claim of of modern polemicists,

02:27:09 --> 02:27:11

okay, is that ibn Mujahid,

02:27:11 --> 02:27:14

using this sort of apparatus of the Abbasid

02:27:14 --> 02:27:14

government,

02:27:15 --> 02:27:18

He used to prosecute anyone who read outside

02:27:18 --> 02:27:18

of his

02:27:19 --> 02:27:21

of his chosen seven reading traditions.

02:27:22 --> 02:27:23

So this is a bit misleading.

02:27:24 --> 02:27:26

Okay. So let me say 2 things about

02:27:26 --> 02:27:27

this. Number 1,

02:27:27 --> 02:27:29

it is true that the state authorities did

02:27:29 --> 02:27:29

prosecute

02:27:30 --> 02:27:31

certain Quran. Yes.

02:27:32 --> 02:27:35

But really only 2 types of Quran. Okay.

02:27:35 --> 02:27:36

So the first type

02:27:36 --> 02:27:38

who would deviate

02:27:38 --> 02:27:40

from the Uthmani textual tradition

02:27:40 --> 02:27:44

and would publicly recite according to the textual

02:27:44 --> 02:27:45

traditions of individual companions,

02:27:46 --> 02:27:49

such as Ibn Mas'ud and, Ibn Kaab and

02:27:49 --> 02:27:51

others, that were not mass transmitted.

02:27:51 --> 02:27:54

Right? So such a man was Khali Muhammad

02:27:54 --> 02:27:54

ibn Ahmad,

02:27:55 --> 02:27:57

ibn Ayyub al Bawdadi, who was more popularly

02:27:57 --> 02:27:58

known as

02:27:58 --> 02:28:00

Istanbul, who died in 9:39 of the common

02:28:00 --> 02:28:03

era. So he would recite aharuf,

02:28:03 --> 02:28:06

that were known by solitary reports, not mass

02:28:06 --> 02:28:07

transmitted reports,

02:28:07 --> 02:28:09

alright, which were not accommodated by the Uthmanic

02:28:09 --> 02:28:11

codices. So he was he was lashed a

02:28:11 --> 02:28:13

few times when he was released.

02:28:13 --> 02:28:16

The second type was, someone like Hari Abu

02:28:16 --> 02:28:17

Bakr ibn Mittsam

02:28:18 --> 02:28:20

who died in 9/65 of the common era.

02:28:20 --> 02:28:22

He stuck to the Rasim of the Uthmani

02:28:22 --> 02:28:24

codex. Okay? And, he knew the canonical readings,

02:28:24 --> 02:28:26

but he believed that it was permissible

02:28:27 --> 02:28:29

to vowel and dot the Rasam however he

02:28:29 --> 02:28:31

wanted, as long as the Arabic was correct

02:28:32 --> 02:28:34

and without even the slightest consideration for ISNA.

02:28:35 --> 02:28:36

And he repented

02:28:36 --> 02:28:38

of this. So, no one was burned

02:28:38 --> 02:28:41

at the stake or impaled or had their

02:28:41 --> 02:28:44

bones crushed, nothing like this. The second point

02:28:44 --> 02:28:47

is that if if if ibn Mujahid prosecuted

02:28:47 --> 02:28:47

Qur'a,

02:28:48 --> 02:28:51

who read according to Yaqub or Khalaf, for

02:28:51 --> 02:28:51

example,

02:28:52 --> 02:28:54

what is today considered authentic, then how on

02:28:54 --> 02:28:56

earth did those reading traditions

02:28:57 --> 02:28:57

survive

02:28:58 --> 02:28:59

and thrive

02:28:59 --> 02:29:01

until the time of Al Jazari

02:29:01 --> 02:29:03

400 years later, who said that they were

02:29:03 --> 02:29:05

mass transmitted authentic readings?

02:29:06 --> 02:29:08

Why weren't those thousands of Quran who were

02:29:08 --> 02:29:11

reading according to Yaqub and Khalaf and Abu

02:29:11 --> 02:29:13

Jafar, why weren't they brought up on charges?

02:29:14 --> 02:29:16

By the way, the case of Ibnu Miksam

02:29:16 --> 02:29:17

absolutely destroys

02:29:19 --> 02:29:22

the orientalist and Christian claims that textual variance

02:29:22 --> 02:29:25

within the Uthmani textual tradition were the result

02:29:25 --> 02:29:28

of Qur'a having absolutely free reign when deciphering

02:29:28 --> 02:29:30

the rusum of the Uthmani codices.

02:29:31 --> 02:29:33

Ibn Ummixam was arrested for doing this. He

02:29:33 --> 02:29:36

was arrested for vowing and dotting the text

02:29:36 --> 02:29:38

however he wanted. He was arrested for bypassing

02:29:39 --> 02:29:43

oral tradition, for bypassing handed down tradition, and

02:29:43 --> 02:29:45

basing his recitation on his own itch tee

02:29:45 --> 02:29:48

hot and his on his own opinion. Right?

02:29:48 --> 02:29:49

So here's the important point.

02:29:51 --> 02:29:51

Unauthorized

02:29:51 --> 02:29:53

readings were investigated

02:29:53 --> 02:29:56

from the very beginning. Remember, Umar dragged Hisham,

02:29:57 --> 02:30:00

right, to the prophet because he suspected Hisham's

02:30:00 --> 02:30:03

reading to be incorrect and unauthorized. Muslims were

02:30:03 --> 02:30:04

always,

02:30:04 --> 02:30:07

always very, very intent on getting the Quran

02:30:08 --> 02:30:10

exactly right. Okay. Now I wanna provide further

02:30:10 --> 02:30:11

evidence,

02:30:12 --> 02:30:14

that the claim of the orientalist and Christian

02:30:14 --> 02:30:17

polemicist is simply wrong. So let's let's restate

02:30:17 --> 02:30:18

their claim.

02:30:18 --> 02:30:21

Okay. Here's here's the claim, is that the

02:30:21 --> 02:30:24

Quran in these regional areas, right, were absolutely

02:30:24 --> 02:30:27

free to vowel and dot the text however

02:30:27 --> 02:30:28

they wanted without restriction

02:30:29 --> 02:30:31

as long as the context and meaning and

02:30:31 --> 02:30:33

grammar was sound, and that this is why

02:30:33 --> 02:30:34

different reading traditions

02:30:35 --> 02:30:36

came into existence. So let me show you

02:30:36 --> 02:30:37

why this is false.

02:30:38 --> 02:30:41

So so Asm, Al Kisai, Yaqb, and Khalaf

02:30:41 --> 02:30:43

read Al Fatiha as,

02:30:45 --> 02:30:47

right, the owner of the day of judgment.

02:30:47 --> 02:30:49

The other 6 Quran, including Nahir,

02:30:50 --> 02:30:53

they read this as Madiki Yom Adin. So

02:30:53 --> 02:30:55

it's a 6040 split. Right? So here the

02:30:55 --> 02:30:58

orientalist says, you see the Rasam

02:30:59 --> 02:31:02

allows for both. So some Quran chose Malik

02:31:02 --> 02:31:04

and some chose medic. They were free to

02:31:04 --> 02:31:05

make this choice.

02:31:06 --> 02:31:07

And yes, this is true. They were free

02:31:07 --> 02:31:09

to make this choice. But here's the problem.

02:31:09 --> 02:31:11

In Surah number 3 verse 26,

02:31:12 --> 02:31:13

Allah Subhanahu Wa Ta'ala says,

02:31:20 --> 02:31:22

All 10, upon his Quran

02:31:23 --> 02:31:26

said Malik al Mulk here in this verse.

02:31:26 --> 02:31:27

It's unanimous.

02:31:28 --> 02:31:29

Why?

02:31:29 --> 02:31:31

Why didn't the 6th Quran

02:31:32 --> 02:31:35

who read Maliki Yom Adin and Al Fatiha

02:31:36 --> 02:31:38

read this as Malikul Mulk?

02:31:39 --> 02:31:41

It makes total sense according to its meaning.

02:31:41 --> 02:31:43

It's contextually valid. It's incorrect Arabic.

02:31:43 --> 02:31:46

Why didn't anyone choose this reading? Well, it

02:31:46 --> 02:31:47

seems to me that they did not have

02:31:47 --> 02:31:48

that choice.

02:31:48 --> 02:31:51

They were not authorized to read this word

02:31:51 --> 02:31:53

and this verse as manic.

02:31:54 --> 02:31:55

They did not have

02:31:55 --> 02:31:56

this type of recitational

02:31:57 --> 02:31:57

latitude

02:31:57 --> 02:31:58

in

02:31:59 --> 02:31:59

this

02:31:59 --> 02:32:02

verse. Why? What makes sense? It makes perfect

02:32:02 --> 02:32:05

sense that the region of Quran were constrained

02:32:05 --> 02:32:07

by the living oral transmission

02:32:07 --> 02:32:08

of the Quran,

02:32:08 --> 02:32:10

the handed down recitational

02:32:11 --> 02:32:11

tradition

02:32:11 --> 02:32:14

of the Quran. They were constrained by the

02:32:14 --> 02:32:15

sunnah of Qira'ah.

02:32:16 --> 02:32:18

And here's another example of this word.

02:32:19 --> 02:32:21

Right? And in the final Surah of the

02:32:21 --> 02:32:23

Quran, Qul A'udu G rabinas

02:32:23 --> 02:32:24

malikinas

02:32:24 --> 02:32:25

malikinas.

02:32:26 --> 02:32:28

Have you ever heard anyone ever recite this

02:32:28 --> 02:32:28

as malikinnes?

02:32:29 --> 02:32:31

No, never. Why? It's unanimous.

02:32:32 --> 02:32:32

There

02:32:33 --> 02:32:35

is no recitational latitude

02:32:35 --> 02:32:38

in this verse. Why? Because readers were

02:32:38 --> 02:32:42

constrained by the Sunnah of the Torah. Right?

02:32:42 --> 02:32:44

We also find in the Quran chapter 20

02:32:44 --> 02:32:44

verse 114,

02:32:45 --> 02:32:45

Fatahallallahu

02:32:46 --> 02:32:47

malikulhaqq,

02:32:47 --> 02:32:50

the same Rasam in Chapter 23 116,

02:32:50 --> 02:32:51

Fatahallallahu

02:32:51 --> 02:32:52

malikulhaqq.

02:32:53 --> 02:32:56

Amazing. No Qari ever read these verses as

02:32:56 --> 02:32:57

Marikul Haqq.

02:32:57 --> 02:32:58

If they had

02:32:59 --> 02:33:01

free rain, what are the chances of that

02:33:01 --> 02:33:04

happening? Right? Here's a totally different example. This

02:33:04 --> 02:33:04

is from,

02:33:06 --> 02:33:07

chapter 6 verse 83.

02:33:08 --> 02:33:08

It says,

02:33:12 --> 02:33:13

like, we raise degrees.

02:33:14 --> 02:33:15

We raise degrees

02:33:17 --> 02:33:18

for whomever we

02:33:19 --> 02:33:22

will. Right? Again, the Uthmanic codices were dotless.

02:33:22 --> 02:33:25

All 10 hora read these two verbs

02:33:26 --> 02:33:29

as first person common. So here's my question.

02:33:29 --> 02:33:32

If variant readings of the Uthmani textual tradition

02:33:32 --> 02:33:32

originated

02:33:33 --> 02:33:35

with the regional ora who were vowing and

02:33:35 --> 02:33:38

dotting their regional codices at will according to

02:33:39 --> 02:33:39

their,

02:33:40 --> 02:33:42

then why didn't anyone read this as

02:33:44 --> 02:33:46

with the verse in the 3rd person? It

02:33:46 --> 02:33:48

makes perfect sense according to the context of

02:33:48 --> 02:33:49

the verse,

02:33:49 --> 02:33:51

yet no one read the verse like this.

02:33:51 --> 02:33:53

Why? Because they were not authorized to do

02:33:53 --> 02:33:55

that. They were constrained

02:33:55 --> 02:33:57

by the Sunnah of Tiraa.

02:33:57 --> 02:33:58

So, here's the point.

02:33:59 --> 02:34:02

If reciters were free to dot and vowel

02:34:02 --> 02:34:04

the rusum of the Uthmanic codices

02:34:04 --> 02:34:06

as they deemed appropriate,

02:34:06 --> 02:34:08

there would've been tens of thousands

02:34:09 --> 02:34:11

of variant meetings throughout the Quran, tens of

02:34:11 --> 02:34:12

thousands,

02:34:12 --> 02:34:15

and there really isn't. In reality, reciters were

02:34:15 --> 02:34:16

extremely limited

02:34:16 --> 02:34:18

as to how to dot and vowel the

02:34:18 --> 02:34:18

Rasam.

02:34:19 --> 02:34:21

Why? Because they were constrained

02:34:21 --> 02:34:23

by the living oral transmission

02:34:23 --> 02:34:26

of the Quran, the handed down recitational tradition

02:34:26 --> 02:34:29

of the Quran. It was nakal, it's riwa.

02:34:29 --> 02:34:32

These Qur'at were talaki, they're verbatim,

02:34:32 --> 02:34:35

They're not Bilma'ana. They're not according to meaning.

02:34:35 --> 02:34:37

They were transmitted with asanid,

02:34:37 --> 02:34:38

chains of transmission.

02:34:39 --> 02:34:41

This is the most convincing explanation.

02:34:42 --> 02:34:43

But, here's another question.

02:34:44 --> 02:34:46

How many variants exist in the canonical

02:34:47 --> 02:34:49

Uthmani reading traditions? In other words, how many

02:34:49 --> 02:34:51

total words in the Quran are affected by

02:34:51 --> 02:34:52

the aroof?

02:34:52 --> 02:34:54

Okay. And by words, I mean noun, verbs,

02:34:54 --> 02:34:58

and particles. So, not counting like dialectical variations

02:34:58 --> 02:34:58

because those

02:34:59 --> 02:35:00

don't change the meanings.

02:35:00 --> 02:35:02

The answer is not very many, just a

02:35:02 --> 02:35:04

fraction. According to Ibn Majayid, it's about 700

02:35:04 --> 02:35:07

words. So, that is less than 1% of

02:35:07 --> 02:35:07

the Quran.

02:35:08 --> 02:35:10

Van Houten thinks this number is too low.

02:35:10 --> 02:35:12

He puts it at 2,000 words. So, 2

02:35:12 --> 02:35:13

and a half percent of the Quran, which

02:35:13 --> 02:35:14

again is very minimal.

02:35:15 --> 02:35:17

If reciters were free to dot and vowel

02:35:17 --> 02:35:19

the rufum

02:35:19 --> 02:35:22

of the Uthmanic codices, however they wanted, according

02:35:22 --> 02:35:24

to context, there would have been tens of

02:35:24 --> 02:35:25

thousands

02:35:25 --> 02:35:27

of words affected, not 700,

02:35:28 --> 02:35:29

not 2,000,

02:35:29 --> 02:35:31

tens of thousands. Let me give you one

02:35:31 --> 02:35:32

last example. This is a good one.

02:35:33 --> 02:35:35

From the UK used this example. I think

02:35:35 --> 02:35:36

it really

02:35:37 --> 02:35:38

strongly demonstrates,

02:35:38 --> 02:35:41

our contention that raha'a is sunnah.

02:35:42 --> 02:35:42

That the

02:35:43 --> 02:35:44

the the reading traditions,

02:35:44 --> 02:35:45

that are canonized,

02:35:46 --> 02:35:48

they are from a prophetic origin. So the

02:35:48 --> 02:35:49

first verse

02:35:50 --> 02:35:51

of Surah Yaseen. Right?

02:35:52 --> 02:35:55

The first verse is Yaseen. Okay? So now

02:35:55 --> 02:35:56

now look at the the word Yaseen,

02:35:57 --> 02:36:00

how it looks in Arabic. Yeah. Right? The

02:36:00 --> 02:36:02

the you with the two dots underneath connected

02:36:02 --> 02:36:04

to the letter seen. Yeah. Now remove the

02:36:04 --> 02:36:05

dots. Imagine,

02:36:06 --> 02:36:08

you know, what's known as the heikal al

02:36:08 --> 02:36:10

kanima, like these the continental

02:36:10 --> 02:36:11

word devoid

02:36:12 --> 02:36:14

of dots, right, the skeletal word. This is

02:36:14 --> 02:36:16

what the Uthmanic codices look like.

02:36:17 --> 02:36:18

Yet everyone,

02:36:18 --> 02:36:19

without

02:36:19 --> 02:36:20

exception,

02:36:20 --> 02:36:22

recited this as Yacine.

02:36:23 --> 02:36:25

Right? They they could have recited this as

02:36:25 --> 02:36:27

Nuan Seen or Tassine

02:36:27 --> 02:36:29

or Tha cine

02:36:29 --> 02:36:30

or Bassine

02:36:31 --> 02:36:32

or Noon sheen

02:36:33 --> 02:36:33

or Tashine

02:36:34 --> 02:36:35

or thashine

02:36:36 --> 02:36:37

or yashine.

02:36:39 --> 02:36:42

They all recited yashine. They had 9 other

02:36:42 --> 02:36:45

choices at least, yet all 10 Korah said

02:36:45 --> 02:36:46

Yassine.

02:36:46 --> 02:36:47

Why?

02:36:47 --> 02:36:50

Because they were constrained by the Sunnah of

02:36:50 --> 02:36:51

Teraha.

02:36:52 --> 02:36:52

Okay. So

02:36:53 --> 02:36:55

this is kind of the the last part

02:36:55 --> 02:36:56

of the presentation, and then I have a

02:36:56 --> 02:36:59

short sort of epilogue. But this is really

02:36:59 --> 02:37:01

important to mention here, that Suyuti mentions in

02:37:01 --> 02:37:03

the Ithqa, this is what he learned from

02:37:03 --> 02:37:05

Imam al Jazari, that there are, several grades

02:37:05 --> 02:37:08

of authenticity with respect to reported

02:37:08 --> 02:37:10

choronic recitations. Okay. So I want to keep

02:37:10 --> 02:37:11

this simple.

02:37:12 --> 02:37:14

So broadly speaking, there are 4 main grades

02:37:14 --> 02:37:15

of recitation.

02:37:16 --> 02:37:17

So if a particular reading

02:37:18 --> 02:37:18

fails

02:37:19 --> 02:37:21

to meet even one of the even one

02:37:21 --> 02:37:23

of the 3 conditions mentioned earlier. Right? Strong

02:37:23 --> 02:37:27

chain, agreement with 1 with monic codex in

02:37:27 --> 02:37:29

sound Arabic. Right? Then if it fails to

02:37:29 --> 02:37:30

meet one of these 3, then it is

02:37:30 --> 02:37:32

considered an unauthorized

02:37:32 --> 02:37:34

reading and it cannot be recited in prayer.

02:37:35 --> 02:37:38

So the highest grade obviously is mutawatiuh, mass

02:37:38 --> 02:37:38

transmitted.

02:37:39 --> 02:37:41

Okay? And Suyuti says that most readings are

02:37:41 --> 02:37:44

of this type. By consensus, these are the

02:37:44 --> 02:37:46

10 canonical reading traditions as transmitted

02:37:46 --> 02:37:48

by their 2 main Rawis. So for nafir,

02:37:48 --> 02:37:51

for example, they are Qalun and Warsh. For

02:37:51 --> 02:37:52

Assen, they are Shurban Hafs.

02:37:53 --> 02:37:55

These were reported by groups and groups of

02:37:55 --> 02:37:57

Muslim reciters with strong and verified chains of

02:37:57 --> 02:37:58

transmission

02:37:59 --> 02:38:01

that go back to the prophet. Then we

02:38:01 --> 02:38:03

have Ahad readings. So these are readings that

02:38:03 --> 02:38:04

have strong chains,

02:38:04 --> 02:38:06

but too few reciters.

02:38:06 --> 02:38:08

Okay? So they don't have a sufficient number

02:38:08 --> 02:38:09

of authorities.

02:38:10 --> 02:38:12

For example, in in his Mustadirak, Imam Al

02:38:12 --> 02:38:15

Hakim said that on the authority of Ibn

02:38:15 --> 02:38:19

Abbas, the prophet would recite Surah 9, verse

02:38:19 --> 02:38:20

128 as laqajalqumasulaminanfasikum

02:38:22 --> 02:38:23

andfasikum,

02:38:23 --> 02:38:24

in addition to anfasikum.

02:38:25 --> 02:38:27

So there is come unto you a messenger

02:38:27 --> 02:38:30

from the most noble among you, anfasikum.

02:38:30 --> 02:38:33

Anfasu is the superlative of nafis.

02:38:33 --> 02:38:35

In addition to the standard, there is come

02:38:35 --> 02:38:38

unto you a messenger from among yourselves, anfasikum,

02:38:40 --> 02:38:42

with anfus as a plural of nafs. So

02:38:42 --> 02:38:44

the Arabic is correct both ways. The meaning

02:38:44 --> 02:38:46

is sound both ways, and both agree with

02:38:46 --> 02:38:48

the ofmani rasam.

02:38:49 --> 02:38:51

Now, none of the canonical reading traditions read

02:38:51 --> 02:38:52

this as antfasikum.

02:38:53 --> 02:38:55

It was just not very popular.

02:38:55 --> 02:38:57

Okay. So, could this have been revealed to

02:38:57 --> 02:38:59

the prophet as

02:38:59 --> 02:39:01

a haraf? Of course, it could have been.

02:39:01 --> 02:39:03

But since this haraf did not gain prevalence,

02:39:03 --> 02:39:05

this reading only has the strength of a

02:39:05 --> 02:39:08

sound hadith. So it is not strong enough

02:39:08 --> 02:39:11

to be an authorized qira'ah of the Quran

02:39:12 --> 02:39:14

because even a sound hadith is not considered

02:39:14 --> 02:39:15

absolutely definitive.

02:39:16 --> 02:39:18

Okay. There is still a chance of error.

02:39:18 --> 02:39:19

It's not a dalil

02:39:20 --> 02:39:21

So for the Quran, we cannot take that

02:39:21 --> 02:39:24

chance. It has to be absolutely sound and

02:39:24 --> 02:39:25

multiply attested.

02:39:25 --> 02:39:27

Then you have shad readings. So shad means

02:39:27 --> 02:39:28

isolated,

02:39:28 --> 02:39:30

right, or unsound or anomalous. So

02:39:31 --> 02:39:33

a shad reading may be in correct Arabic,

02:39:34 --> 02:39:36

have a sound meaning, and even agree with

02:39:36 --> 02:39:39

the Uthmani Rasam, but the isnaad is somehow

02:39:40 --> 02:39:42

unsound or defective. For example,

02:39:43 --> 02:39:44

instead of and this is an example used

02:39:44 --> 02:39:46

by Moussiyuti, the Ith Khan, Instead of saying

02:39:46 --> 02:39:49

iyaka na'budu, you alone we worship,

02:39:50 --> 02:39:52

somebody says iyaka yurbadu,

02:39:52 --> 02:39:54

you alone are worshipped.

02:39:54 --> 02:39:56

Right? So instead of the verb being first

02:39:56 --> 02:39:59

person plural in the active voice, it's made

02:39:59 --> 02:40:01

in of 3rd person masculine in the passive.

02:40:01 --> 02:40:04

So these readings have no transmissional basis. So

02:40:04 --> 02:40:06

if a reciter were to recite like this,

02:40:06 --> 02:40:08

the authorities would ask him where he learned

02:40:08 --> 02:40:09

this. And if he says from so and

02:40:09 --> 02:40:11

so, the authorities would go to so and

02:40:11 --> 02:40:12

so and ask him, and so and so

02:40:12 --> 02:40:14

would say, I just heard it somewhere, or

02:40:14 --> 02:40:16

I just vowed it myself, or my brother

02:40:16 --> 02:40:18

used to recite like this. And I and

02:40:18 --> 02:40:20

I don't know where he heard it from.

02:40:20 --> 02:40:23

So authorities were very rigorous and particular about

02:40:23 --> 02:40:25

what reciters were reciting in public. And then

02:40:25 --> 02:40:27

finally, we have, Maldua reading. So these are

02:40:27 --> 02:40:29

readings that are deemed fabricated by authorities.

02:40:29 --> 02:40:32

K. These readings have multiple problems, you know,

02:40:32 --> 02:40:34

like, in addition to an unsound or nonexistent,

02:40:34 --> 02:40:37

is not. There are other issues, disagreement with

02:40:37 --> 02:40:39

the Usmani Brassem, grammatical errors,

02:40:40 --> 02:40:41

unacceptable meanings.

02:40:42 --> 02:40:44

So so for example, Abu Aswaddu Wali, he

02:40:44 --> 02:40:46

once heard a man recite chapter 9 verse

02:40:46 --> 02:40:46

3

02:40:47 --> 02:40:49

as Anallaha bari umminan mushrikim orasulihi

02:40:50 --> 02:40:51

instead of orasuluhu.

02:40:52 --> 02:40:54

Right? And so the former, it changes the

02:40:54 --> 02:40:55

meaning to something unacceptable

02:40:56 --> 02:40:57

and has no transmissional,

02:40:57 --> 02:40:59

basis. So, Abdul Ali asked the man

02:40:59 --> 02:41:01

from where he learned his Qara'a and the

02:41:01 --> 02:41:03

man said that he just sort of vowed

02:41:03 --> 02:41:03

it, himself.

02:41:04 --> 02:41:06

So, so Mutawati readings are without question Quran

02:41:06 --> 02:41:08

and may be recited in prayer.

02:41:08 --> 02:41:09

Ahad readings

02:41:10 --> 02:41:12

may have been revealed as Quran. Right? They

02:41:12 --> 02:41:14

may have been revealed as Ashraf,

02:41:14 --> 02:41:17

yet they are outside the Uthmani textual tradition.

02:41:17 --> 02:41:19

So, Ashraf that were either

02:41:19 --> 02:41:21

abrogated or abandoned,

02:41:21 --> 02:41:22

they may not be recited in prayer, but

02:41:22 --> 02:41:24

they have the strength of hadith.

02:41:24 --> 02:41:27

It is possible, but also, but very unlikely,

02:41:27 --> 02:41:30

that shav readings may also have been revealed

02:41:30 --> 02:41:33

as Quranic aharth, but were abandoned or abrogated.

02:41:33 --> 02:41:35

But these readings really don't have any type

02:41:35 --> 02:41:36

of authority,

02:41:38 --> 02:41:39

other than

02:41:39 --> 02:41:42

perhaps serving sort of a minor exegetical function.

02:41:42 --> 02:41:45

And finding al Dort readings are definitely not

02:41:45 --> 02:41:47

Quranic and have no authority whatsoever.

02:41:49 --> 02:41:49

Okay.

02:41:50 --> 02:41:52

So that's pretty much the end of the

02:41:52 --> 02:41:54

main part of the presentation. Now as an

02:41:54 --> 02:41:56

as an epilogue, I want to share my

02:41:56 --> 02:41:56

thoughts

02:41:57 --> 02:42:00

about 2 things, very briefly. Okay? So so

02:42:00 --> 02:42:01

one is,

02:42:02 --> 02:42:03

an oft repeated hadith,

02:42:04 --> 02:42:07

by anti Muslim elements, and the other is

02:42:07 --> 02:42:08

the work of Daniel Brubaker.

02:42:09 --> 02:42:11

Okay. So so let's start with the first.

02:42:12 --> 02:42:13

So Christian missionaries

02:42:13 --> 02:42:14

and Shiite apologists,

02:42:15 --> 02:42:17

so they they love a particular hadith in

02:42:17 --> 02:42:20

the sunan of Ibnu Majah, where Aisha is

02:42:20 --> 02:42:23

reported to have said that a goat

02:42:23 --> 02:42:24

or a sheep

02:42:25 --> 02:42:27

ate the page that contained both the stoning

02:42:27 --> 02:42:30

and the breastfeeding verses. So they love this

02:42:30 --> 02:42:32

hadith. It's like mother's milk to them. Right?

02:42:33 --> 02:42:34

And by the way, in America,

02:42:34 --> 02:42:37

the woke circus is demanding that we say

02:42:37 --> 02:42:38

chest feeding now and not breastfeeding.

02:42:39 --> 02:42:41

So let's make it a point to ignore

02:42:41 --> 02:42:41

that. Anyway,

02:42:43 --> 02:42:45

I I just said, the verse of stoning

02:42:45 --> 02:42:48

and of breastfeeding an adult 10 times was

02:42:48 --> 02:42:48

revealed,

02:42:48 --> 02:42:50

and the paper was with me under my

02:42:50 --> 02:42:51

pillow. When the messenger

02:42:52 --> 02:42:54

of Allah died, we were preoccupied with his

02:42:54 --> 02:42:57

death and a tame sheep, some sometimes it

02:42:57 --> 02:42:59

says goat, came in and ate it.

02:42:59 --> 02:43:01

Okay. So so first things first,

02:43:02 --> 02:43:05

we don't just accept any hadith uncritically.

02:43:05 --> 02:43:08

Okay? So so this hadith is defective

02:43:09 --> 02:43:11

according to probably all Sunni

02:43:12 --> 02:43:12

Muaddithin,

02:43:13 --> 02:43:14

scholars of hadith.

02:43:14 --> 02:43:16

There are several there are several big problems

02:43:16 --> 02:43:19

with this hadith. So number 1, ibn Ishaq

02:43:19 --> 02:43:22

is the Isnat. Okay? And he was known

02:43:22 --> 02:43:24

for being not just weak in Hadith, but

02:43:24 --> 02:43:25

very questionable

02:43:26 --> 02:43:26

in his honesty,

02:43:27 --> 02:43:29

in his reliability, to put it mildly. I

02:43:29 --> 02:43:32

mean, Imam Malik ibn Anas, okay, who was

02:43:32 --> 02:43:34

without question one of the greatest scholars in

02:43:34 --> 02:43:37

the history of Islam, highly revered,

02:43:37 --> 02:43:38

the the imam of Medina,

02:43:39 --> 02:43:41

the founder of the Maliki School, the master

02:43:41 --> 02:43:44

of hadith and and jurisprudence, he referred to

02:43:44 --> 02:43:46

Ibn Ishaq as a deceiver at Dajjal,

02:43:46 --> 02:43:48

that is to say an audacious liar.

02:43:49 --> 02:43:52

Also, there are 2 other versions of this

02:43:52 --> 02:43:54

hadith that that were narrated by imam Malik

02:43:54 --> 02:43:56

and and and Yahya ibn Sa'id,

02:43:57 --> 02:43:58

Al Ansari

02:43:58 --> 02:43:59

that do not include

02:44:00 --> 02:44:02

this strange comment about a goat or a

02:44:02 --> 02:44:04

sheep. And both both Madik and Yahya are

02:44:04 --> 02:44:06

universally known for their reliability,

02:44:07 --> 02:44:07

in in transmission.

02:44:08 --> 02:44:10

The other issue is related to basic reason.

02:44:11 --> 02:44:13

Right? Let's just focus on stoning. Right?

02:44:14 --> 02:44:16

There are multiple reports which state that there

02:44:16 --> 02:44:18

was a verse revealed to the prophet,

02:44:19 --> 02:44:19

which

02:44:20 --> 02:44:20

prescribed

02:44:21 --> 02:44:24

the stoning of married parties found guilty of

02:44:24 --> 02:44:26

adultery. Okay? There's very little dispute about that.

02:44:27 --> 02:44:28

There was a verse.

02:44:28 --> 02:44:31

Several companions of the prophet knew it, memorized

02:44:31 --> 02:44:32

it, and recited it.

02:44:33 --> 02:44:35

Why was it not included in the Uthmani

02:44:35 --> 02:44:36

codex by the committee?

02:44:37 --> 02:44:40

Anything is more plausible than what this hadith

02:44:40 --> 02:44:42

is apparently suggesting. Right? So according to this

02:44:42 --> 02:44:44

hadith, the reason why this verse was no

02:44:44 --> 02:44:45

longer recited as the Quran,

02:44:46 --> 02:44:48

is because a a goat or a sheep

02:44:48 --> 02:44:50

ate the piece of paper upon which the

02:44:50 --> 02:44:51

verse was transcribed

02:44:51 --> 02:44:53

as if losing a piece of paper suddenly

02:44:53 --> 02:44:55

erases the verse from the memories of human

02:44:55 --> 02:44:56

beings.

02:44:56 --> 02:44:58

As I said, in this early period, the

02:44:58 --> 02:44:59

written Quran was

02:45:00 --> 02:45:02

secondary to what was being recited. This was

02:45:02 --> 02:45:04

primarily an oral culture.

02:45:04 --> 02:45:06

Another thing is it is highly implausible

02:45:06 --> 02:45:09

that none of the official scribes of the

02:45:09 --> 02:45:09

prophet,

02:45:09 --> 02:45:12

who are mentioned in our sources by name

02:45:12 --> 02:45:14

and number up to nearly 70 individuals. It's

02:45:14 --> 02:45:17

highly implausible that none of those scribes wrote

02:45:17 --> 02:45:18

this verse down.

02:45:19 --> 02:45:20

Right? Nor did any other companion in the

02:45:20 --> 02:45:23

parent. Only Aisha had this verse written down.

02:45:23 --> 02:45:25

And when the goat ate the paper, the

02:45:25 --> 02:45:25

verse magically,

02:45:26 --> 02:45:27

disappeared apparently.

02:45:28 --> 02:45:31

Now here's what probably happened. Okay? The verse

02:45:31 --> 02:45:33

of stoning was probably written down by someone

02:45:33 --> 02:45:34

and presented to Zaid

02:45:34 --> 02:45:36

during the collation process,

02:45:37 --> 02:45:38

but there was a difference of opinion as

02:45:38 --> 02:45:39

to whether the prophet

02:45:40 --> 02:45:42

ordered the verse to be officially transcribed.

02:45:43 --> 02:45:45

Okay? And in fact, there are a few

02:45:45 --> 02:45:47

narrations, 1 in the Mustad Al Akbar Hakim,

02:45:48 --> 02:45:50

another in Beihaki, I think in in Nasai

02:45:50 --> 02:45:52

that mentioned that the prophet disliked that the

02:45:52 --> 02:45:54

verse of stoning should be transcribed.

02:45:55 --> 02:45:57

So there might have been a problem with

02:45:57 --> 02:45:59

securing the 2 witnesses. Now,

02:46:00 --> 02:46:01

as I said earlier,

02:46:01 --> 02:46:03

the last two verses of a Tovah also

02:46:03 --> 02:46:06

lacked an additional witness, but they were transcribed

02:46:06 --> 02:46:09

by the codex committee. Why? Because the last

02:46:09 --> 02:46:12

two verses of a Tovah were widely recited

02:46:12 --> 02:46:14

by the generality of the companions

02:46:14 --> 02:46:16

and there was no question of abrogation.

02:46:17 --> 02:46:19

So why wasn't the verse of stoning included

02:46:19 --> 02:46:19

by the

02:46:20 --> 02:46:22

committee? Well, it appears that the prophet, for

02:46:22 --> 02:46:24

some reason, did not recite it as part

02:46:24 --> 02:46:26

of the final recension of the Quran in

02:46:26 --> 02:46:28

his final review with Gabriel.

02:46:29 --> 02:46:31

Whether one believes in Gabriel or not, the

02:46:31 --> 02:46:31

committee

02:46:32 --> 02:46:33

and many other companions

02:46:33 --> 02:46:35

must have been of the opinion,

02:46:35 --> 02:46:38

that this verse was not to be or

02:46:38 --> 02:46:39

no longer to be

02:46:40 --> 02:46:40

recited.

02:46:41 --> 02:46:42

In other words, the verse of stoning was

02:46:42 --> 02:46:44

in some form abrogated

02:46:44 --> 02:46:47

by the prophet. Okay. No no no goats

02:46:47 --> 02:46:48

or sheeps needed.

02:46:48 --> 02:46:51

And it seemed that there were a few

02:46:51 --> 02:46:53

companions who wanted to keep reciting it as

02:46:53 --> 02:46:54

the Quran,

02:46:54 --> 02:46:56

but after the committee's investigation and research and

02:46:56 --> 02:46:59

inquiry into the matter, they concluded that indeed

02:46:59 --> 02:47:01

the verse had been abrogated, and the companions

02:47:01 --> 02:47:03

who wanted to keep reciting it were simply

02:47:03 --> 02:47:03

wrong to do

02:47:04 --> 02:47:05

so. That's it.

02:47:08 --> 02:47:09

And then finally here, I wanna give my

02:47:09 --> 02:47:11

brief thoughts on the work of Daniel Allen

02:47:11 --> 02:47:13

Brubaker. So Brubaker is apparently,

02:47:15 --> 02:47:17

a scholar, at least he presents himself as

02:47:17 --> 02:47:19

a scholar, of of early Quranic

02:47:20 --> 02:47:22

manuscripts. So his book is called corrections in

02:47:22 --> 02:47:24

early Qur'an manuscripts.

02:47:24 --> 02:47:26

He has a somewhat popular and provocative YouTube

02:47:26 --> 02:47:27

channel.

02:47:28 --> 02:47:29

For many anti Muslim

02:47:30 --> 02:47:31

Christian polemicists,

02:47:31 --> 02:47:34

Brubaker has become their new savior, so to

02:47:34 --> 02:47:36

speak, every so often. I think he's- Royce

02:47:36 --> 02:47:38

Dailey Brumley He's working. Royce Dailey Brumley He's

02:47:38 --> 02:47:39

working. Royce Dailey Brumley He's working. Royce Dailey

02:47:39 --> 02:47:41

Brumley He's working. Royce Dailey Brumley He's working.

02:47:41 --> 02:47:43

Royce Dailey Brumley He's working. Royce Dailey Brumley

02:47:43 --> 02:47:44

He's working. Royce Dailey Brumley He's working. So

02:47:44 --> 02:47:46

Brubaker's whole shtick

02:47:46 --> 02:47:47

is his claim

02:47:48 --> 02:47:51

that several differences in our manuscript tradition are

02:47:51 --> 02:47:52

actually deliberate attempts

02:47:53 --> 02:47:55

by scribes to change the text because the

02:47:55 --> 02:47:57

text of the Quran remained

02:47:57 --> 02:47:59

flexible even centuries

02:48:00 --> 02:48:01

beyond its standardization.

02:48:02 --> 02:48:05

Several scholars have responded to Brumaker's work and

02:48:05 --> 02:48:08

have thoroughly debunked his assertions, Doctor. Yasser Kadi,

02:48:09 --> 02:48:13

doctor Shabir Ali, 3 Muslim apologists, Mansur Ahmad,

02:48:14 --> 02:48:17

Eyjaz Ahmad, and Farid al Bahrani, they coauthored

02:48:17 --> 02:48:19

a a fantastic 300

02:48:20 --> 02:48:21

page rebuttal to Brubaker.

02:48:22 --> 02:48:23

It's called the Insignificance

02:48:23 --> 02:48:24

of Corrections

02:48:25 --> 02:48:27

in Early Quran Manuscripts. It's free on academia.edu.

02:48:27 --> 02:48:29

I recommend taking a look at it.

02:48:29 --> 02:48:31

The eminent Turkish scholar

02:48:32 --> 02:48:34

of Koranic textual criticism,

02:48:34 --> 02:48:35

doctor Tayar,

02:48:36 --> 02:48:36

Artikulak,

02:48:38 --> 02:48:39

he wrote

02:48:40 --> 02:48:42

an entire book called the refutation of Brubaker's

02:48:42 --> 02:48:43

corrections.

02:48:44 --> 02:48:46

But if people are looking for something brief,

02:48:46 --> 02:48:47

then I highly recommend

02:48:48 --> 02:48:51

the epic dismantling of Brubaker by none other

02:48:51 --> 02:48:53

than doctor Hythem Sitsky. Uh-huh. This was in

02:48:53 --> 02:48:54

2019.

02:48:54 --> 02:48:56

This was doctor Sitsky's review

02:48:56 --> 02:48:59

of Brubaker's book in an academic journal called

02:49:00 --> 02:49:01

or a suitable stop.

02:49:02 --> 02:49:04

It's something like 15 pages. It's very short.

02:49:05 --> 02:49:08

Doctor Sitsky writes, it, meaning Brubaker's book,

02:49:08 --> 02:49:11

suffers from a number of critical flaws

02:49:12 --> 02:49:13

in methodology,

02:49:13 --> 02:49:14

analysis, and discussion.

02:49:15 --> 02:49:17

So his review of Brubaker's book is very

02:49:17 --> 02:49:19

academic. It's very respectful.

02:49:19 --> 02:49:21

There are no ad homonyms. Right? It's not

02:49:21 --> 02:49:22

harsh.

02:49:22 --> 02:49:25

It's it's not highly polemical, but it is

02:49:25 --> 02:49:26

kind of the nail, I think, in the

02:49:26 --> 02:49:29

coffin of Brubaker's so called, scholarship on the

02:49:29 --> 02:49:30

Quran.

02:49:31 --> 02:49:32

Doctor Sify,

02:49:33 --> 02:49:35

did not have to be polemical or provocative

02:49:36 --> 02:49:37

in his review because the facts,

02:49:38 --> 02:49:39

speak for themselves. The

02:49:40 --> 02:49:42

conclusion that anyone will take from doctor Sitsky's

02:49:42 --> 02:49:42

annihilation,

02:49:43 --> 02:49:44

of Brubaker,

02:49:44 --> 02:49:47

is that Brubaker is either highly incompetent

02:49:47 --> 02:49:49

or or highly disingenuous

02:49:49 --> 02:49:50

or both.

02:49:50 --> 02:49:52

So Brubaker highlights in his book,

02:49:53 --> 02:49:55

20 examples in various manuscripts,

02:49:56 --> 02:49:59

where scribes, change the standard text, right, the

02:49:59 --> 02:49:59

Uthmani Russel.

02:50:01 --> 02:50:03

Brubaker wants to think that these changes were

02:50:03 --> 02:50:05

done with the intention of deliberately altering the

02:50:05 --> 02:50:08

the Uthmani Rus'am in order to deviate from

02:50:08 --> 02:50:09

the Rasam for some reason.

02:50:10 --> 02:50:12

Doctor Siddhi also mentions that Brubaker's argument is

02:50:12 --> 02:50:13

a straw man,

02:50:14 --> 02:50:17

that Brubaker essentially, argues against the assumptions of

02:50:17 --> 02:50:18

many lay Muslims

02:50:19 --> 02:50:20

that the text

02:50:20 --> 02:50:22

of the Quran was always in a uniform

02:50:22 --> 02:50:23

text even before standardization.

02:50:25 --> 02:50:25

So Brubaker

02:50:26 --> 02:50:29

shows very little knowledge of traditional Muslim

02:50:29 --> 02:50:33

scholarly literature on manuscripts, on on variants, on

02:50:33 --> 02:50:33

aharuf,

02:50:34 --> 02:50:35

on qira'at,

02:50:35 --> 02:50:39

etcetera. I suspect Brubaker does know better, but

02:50:39 --> 02:50:40

I think he's banking

02:50:41 --> 02:50:43

on the ignorance of his lib Muslim and

02:50:43 --> 02:50:45

Christian readers in order to make some sort

02:50:45 --> 02:50:46

of, dramatic impression.

02:50:47 --> 02:50:49

But to give you an example of, an

02:50:49 --> 02:50:52

idea of the state of his scholarship,

02:50:52 --> 02:50:55

Brudbaker in his book actually pedals

02:50:55 --> 02:50:56

Dan Gibson's

02:50:56 --> 02:50:57

ridiculous

02:50:58 --> 02:51:00

Da Vinci code esque theory

02:51:00 --> 02:51:01

that Petra

02:51:02 --> 02:51:03

was the after

02:51:04 --> 02:51:06

Jerusalem, and that the prophet was born and

02:51:06 --> 02:51:07

raised in Petra.

02:51:07 --> 02:51:09

Right? So Marijn Van Putten, he calls the

02:51:09 --> 02:51:10

Petra thesis

02:51:11 --> 02:51:11

nonsense,

02:51:12 --> 02:51:14

and says that the Quran clearly shows it's

02:51:14 --> 02:51:15

taking place in the Hejaz.

02:51:16 --> 02:51:19

Doctor Sean Anthony calls the petrothesis, quote, total

02:51:19 --> 02:51:19

garbage.

02:51:21 --> 02:51:23

Doctor Sipke actually makes reference to an academic

02:51:23 --> 02:51:25

article by David a King,

02:51:25 --> 02:51:27

who is a scholar of early,

02:51:27 --> 02:51:28

Muslim qiblas.

02:51:29 --> 02:51:30

And the article is called, I love this

02:51:30 --> 02:51:32

title, the Petra fallacy.

02:51:33 --> 02:51:34

Early mosques

02:51:34 --> 02:51:37

do face the sacred Kaaba in Mecca, but

02:51:37 --> 02:51:39

Dan Gibson doesn't know how.

02:51:40 --> 02:51:40

Wow.

02:51:41 --> 02:51:44

Anyway, Brudbaker's Arabic by the way is

02:51:44 --> 02:51:47

atrocious. His pronunciations are horrible.

02:51:47 --> 02:51:49

I mean, they're cringey bad. His translations are

02:51:49 --> 02:51:50

often inaccurate.

02:51:51 --> 02:51:53

It seems like he's a pseudo scholar who's

02:51:53 --> 02:51:54

trying to make a few bucks. I don't

02:51:54 --> 02:51:56

know. Get a few views on his channel.

02:51:56 --> 02:51:58

Maybe he's a fraud. I don't know. Maybe

02:51:58 --> 02:52:00

we should lump him in with the

02:52:00 --> 02:52:03

Christoph Luxenbergs and the Robert Spencers of the

02:52:03 --> 02:52:04

world, which reminds me actually,

02:52:05 --> 02:52:07

and I'll just mention this quickly. Robert Spencer

02:52:07 --> 02:52:09

has a new book. You know, Spencer was

02:52:09 --> 02:52:10

one of these post-nineeleven

02:52:10 --> 02:52:11

opportunists

02:52:12 --> 02:52:15

and disinformation experts. His new book is called

02:52:15 --> 02:52:17

The Critical Quran. That's what he called it.

02:52:17 --> 02:52:20

The Critical Quran by a guy who maintains

02:52:20 --> 02:52:23

that the prophet Muhammad never existed. Right? I

02:52:23 --> 02:52:25

mean, this guy's a radical revisionist crackpot, right,

02:52:25 --> 02:52:26

and regurgitates

02:52:27 --> 02:52:30

the old and tired and thoroughly debunked positions

02:52:30 --> 02:52:32

of John Wansbrough.

02:52:32 --> 02:52:34

And then he actually refers to Christoph Luxenberg

02:52:35 --> 02:52:38

as a great scholar and philologist.

02:52:38 --> 02:52:40

Now, Luxemburg is literally

02:52:40 --> 02:52:43

an academic laughing stock. I mean, lux Luxembourg

02:52:43 --> 02:52:45

was the guy who said the Quran,

02:52:45 --> 02:52:46

who said the Quran

02:52:47 --> 02:52:49

was written in an Aramaic

02:52:49 --> 02:52:49

Arabic

02:52:50 --> 02:52:51

hybrid language. Right?

02:52:52 --> 02:52:55

So like Waleed Salih, Daniel King, Gabriel Reynolds,

02:52:55 --> 02:52:58

Robert Hoyland, Angelica Neuwirth,

02:52:58 --> 02:53:01

Van Putten, even Patricia Krone have a scathing

02:53:01 --> 02:53:03

reviews of Luxembourg. Whoever this guy is, he's

02:53:03 --> 02:53:04

hiding behind an alias.

02:53:05 --> 02:53:07

But according to Spencer, Luxembourg is a great

02:53:07 --> 02:53:10

scholar and and philologist. This goes back to

02:53:10 --> 02:53:13

the guilt complex I mentioned earlier because what

02:53:13 --> 02:53:15

are Muslims saying to Christians? They're saying, You

02:53:15 --> 02:53:17

have this new testament in Greek.

02:53:18 --> 02:53:20

Jesus did not speak Greek. He spoke

02:53:20 --> 02:53:22

Aramaic. So now they're saying, well, the Quran's

02:53:22 --> 02:53:23

in Aramaic.

02:53:24 --> 02:53:25

It's just a it's a it's a pretty

02:53:25 --> 02:53:26

horrible argument.

02:53:27 --> 02:53:27

Anyway,

02:53:28 --> 02:53:31

just to finish up here, doctor Sify goes

02:53:31 --> 02:53:33

through all twenty of Brubaker's examples

02:53:34 --> 02:53:36

and concludes he says, quote, The majority of

02:53:36 --> 02:53:38

changes mentioned in Brubaker's

02:53:38 --> 02:53:41

book are best explained by scribal errors.

02:53:42 --> 02:53:43

Doctor. Sitki wonders

02:53:44 --> 02:53:47

why even the possibility of scribal error was

02:53:47 --> 02:53:49

never even considered by Brubaker when it's clearly

02:53:49 --> 02:53:51

the most plausible explanation.

02:53:51 --> 02:53:53

I'll spare you the details,

02:53:54 --> 02:53:56

but doctor Schifke says that basically all of

02:53:56 --> 02:53:59

Brubaker's examples are explained by either parablexis,

02:54:00 --> 02:54:02

which is like the eye skipping,

02:54:02 --> 02:54:04

didography, which is when you inadvertently

02:54:04 --> 02:54:05

repeat something,

02:54:07 --> 02:54:09

or parallel assimilation that we talked about earlier.

02:54:10 --> 02:54:12

In other words, these are all scribble errors.

02:54:12 --> 02:54:14

I mean, Sitsky concludes that really only one

02:54:14 --> 02:54:18

of Brudbaker's examples, number 5, is worth investigating

02:54:18 --> 02:54:18

further.

02:54:19 --> 02:54:20

And its final

02:54:20 --> 02:54:21

conclusion,

02:54:21 --> 02:54:24

worded very politely is, quote, the main thesis,

02:54:24 --> 02:54:25

namely that the flexibility

02:54:26 --> 02:54:29

of the Quranic text persisted centuries beyond

02:54:29 --> 02:54:30

its standardization,

02:54:30 --> 02:54:32

remains unproven,

02:54:32 --> 02:54:33

end quote.

02:54:34 --> 02:54:34

Oops.

02:54:35 --> 02:54:38

Then I'll just say a couple more things

02:54:38 --> 02:54:39

here. Doctor Shabir Ally actually

02:54:40 --> 02:54:42

points out something good as well. He says

02:54:42 --> 02:54:45

that, of course, individual manuscripts of the Quran

02:54:45 --> 02:54:46

can have errors, and he pointed that out

02:54:46 --> 02:54:49

as well. Muslim scribes were not infallible just

02:54:49 --> 02:54:51

because a scribe made a mistake

02:54:51 --> 02:54:54

by leaving out a word or mistakenly assimilated

02:54:54 --> 02:54:56

2 similar sounding verses

02:54:56 --> 02:54:59

in transcribing a manuscript, does it mean that

02:54:59 --> 02:55:00

he changed

02:55:01 --> 02:55:02

the Quran or that the Quran is no

02:55:02 --> 02:55:04

longer preserved or he thought the Quran was

02:55:04 --> 02:55:06

somehow flexible and things like that? It's ridiculous.

02:55:06 --> 02:55:09

Also, individual memories of Muslims can have errors.

02:55:10 --> 02:55:12

Reciters are not infallible. Reciters make mistakes all

02:55:12 --> 02:55:13

the time.

02:55:13 --> 02:55:16

But the Quran has a double check system

02:55:16 --> 02:55:18

at which we may know what is the

02:55:18 --> 02:55:20

correct reading. It is the collective

02:55:21 --> 02:55:23

memory of the reciters of the community,

02:55:23 --> 02:55:25

as well as the mass attestation

02:55:25 --> 02:55:28

of manuscript witnesses. And Van Putin is clear

02:55:28 --> 02:55:29

on this. I mean, his position is that

02:55:29 --> 02:55:31

is that since the Quran's standardization

02:55:32 --> 02:55:34

in 6:50, the text has not changed at

02:55:34 --> 02:55:36

all. It is stable and preserved. Those are

02:55:36 --> 02:55:37

his words.

02:55:37 --> 02:55:39

Doctor. Sitzky also points out that Brudbacher failed

02:55:39 --> 02:55:40

to

02:55:41 --> 02:55:43

show a pattern of changes in the manuscripts

02:55:43 --> 02:55:44

throughout the centuries.

02:55:44 --> 02:55:48

In other words, Brudbaker shows how the word

02:55:48 --> 02:55:51

Allah in a certain verse is omitted in

02:55:51 --> 02:55:52

a 2nd century manuscript.

02:55:52 --> 02:55:55

Right? But in multiple 1st and third century

02:55:55 --> 02:55:56

manuscripts

02:55:56 --> 02:55:59

of that verse, right, before and after, the

02:55:59 --> 02:56:00

word Allah is there.

02:56:00 --> 02:56:03

It's everywhere. In other words, these mistakes, these

02:56:03 --> 02:56:05

are clearly mistakes, and these mistakes were not

02:56:05 --> 02:56:05

inherited.

02:56:06 --> 02:56:09

Why were they not inherited? Because the standard

02:56:09 --> 02:56:10

text was known.

02:56:10 --> 02:56:12

Now, a Christian apologist may

02:56:13 --> 02:56:13

say here

02:56:14 --> 02:56:16

that the vast majority of changes in the

02:56:16 --> 02:56:16

Greek new testament

02:56:17 --> 02:56:20

manuscripts were also unintentional scribal errors.

02:56:21 --> 02:56:23

And I agree, but as Metzger and Ehrman

02:56:23 --> 02:56:25

and Comfort and many others have shown, there

02:56:25 --> 02:56:29

are also many deliberate theological changes made to

02:56:29 --> 02:56:31

the text. We know this, the longer ending

02:56:31 --> 02:56:33

of Mark, the Johann in coma,

02:56:33 --> 02:56:34

the Percovi Adulteri,

02:56:35 --> 02:56:37

the Luke in Jesus sweating blood, the Luke

02:56:37 --> 02:56:39

in Jesus asking God to forgive the Jews,

02:56:40 --> 02:56:42

the prologue changed from only begotten God to

02:56:42 --> 02:56:45

only begotten son, etcetera, etcetera, etcetera.

02:56:45 --> 02:56:47

None of the 20 examples presented by Brubaker

02:56:47 --> 02:56:49

have even the slightest

02:56:49 --> 02:56:50

theological significance.

02:56:51 --> 02:56:53

They are unintentional scribble errors,

02:56:53 --> 02:56:55

plain and simple, end of

02:56:55 --> 02:56:58

story, and mercifully, the end of my presentation.

02:56:59 --> 02:56:59

Right.

02:57:00 --> 02:57:02

Very, very brilliant. Well, thank you very much,

02:57:03 --> 02:57:03

indeed,

02:57:04 --> 02:57:06

indeed to Professor Ali Atai.

02:57:07 --> 02:57:09

You might be on mute. Oh, am I

02:57:09 --> 02:57:12

on mute? Is it on mute? Nope. I'm

02:57:12 --> 02:57:14

not on mute. But, I I can, hopefully

02:57:14 --> 02:57:16

recording. So thank you very much indeed for,

02:57:17 --> 02:57:19

your extraordinary presentation.

02:57:19 --> 02:57:20

Comprehensive,

02:57:20 --> 02:57:21

detailed,

02:57:21 --> 02:57:22

intelligible,

02:57:23 --> 02:57:23

clear,

02:57:24 --> 02:57:25

devastating at the end.

02:57:26 --> 02:57:28

I almost I almost feel sympathetic,

02:57:28 --> 02:57:31

Almost feel sympathetic for certain individuals that you

02:57:31 --> 02:57:31

have,

02:57:33 --> 02:57:36

devastatingly critiqued, or cited others who are critiquing

02:57:36 --> 02:57:36

them.

02:57:37 --> 02:57:39

Thank you, sir. Thank you very much for

02:57:39 --> 02:57:41

this resource as well, which that's the whole

02:57:41 --> 02:57:42

point of it really, isn't it? It is

02:57:42 --> 02:57:45

a resource for, people in the weeks months,

02:57:45 --> 02:57:48

maybe years to come to have the tools

02:57:48 --> 02:57:49

and the information and the knowledge,

02:57:51 --> 02:57:54

to push back against some of these more

02:57:54 --> 02:57:57

extreme claims and and to be infused with

02:57:57 --> 02:57:58

knowledge and,

02:57:59 --> 02:58:02

a balanced understanding of historical and textual and

02:58:02 --> 02:58:03

linguistic facts. So,

02:58:03 --> 02:58:06

thank you very much indeed for that. And,

02:58:07 --> 02:58:08

well, that well, that is it. I'm I'm

02:58:08 --> 02:58:11

not gonna, say anymore because you've said it

02:58:11 --> 02:58:12

all. So thank you very much.

02:58:13 --> 02:58:15

Thank you, Paul. Thank you for the opportunity.

02:58:16 --> 02:58:16

May Allah

02:58:17 --> 02:58:20

bless you, bless your channel. And, you know,

02:58:20 --> 02:58:22

for the people that are watching this who

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have not subscribed to blogging theology,

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what's wrong with you? You need to subscribe

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