Akram Nadwi – Islam and Feminism

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The speakers discuss the need for women's involvement in political processes and the issue of women's satisfaction and sexuality. They argue that women's satisfaction should lead to a woman-equity society, but men should be treated fairly and women should not be treated equally. The solution is to make men and women equal and treat them fairly, not to make them equal.

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			Feminism basically relies on the injustice, our wrongdoing, aware of women in the society.
		
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			Or in this matter, certainly, we don't disagree with feminism, this actually that part of feminism,
which certainly we believe it should be considered, and it shouldn't be studied, I'll certainly know
that women have been wronged. And continuously being around, you know, I keep receiving so many
information everywhere in this, even in this country so many times, again, again, it keeps coming
that how much injustice and wild west to women is there. So, when somebody brings this over, people
listen to those people. And that's why there is an outside now also Islamic feminism, to there are
many, many Muslim women, they are becoming a feminist, because the reason
		
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			but the solution that they bring their solution that Islamic summary of the solution basically is
that women should become like men, say political men are respected. And women are expected to give
the same rights simple, men have to be will be respected men have power, there was a spirit of women
a great power they respected men have money, they'll provide the myth of money for women, they also
respected men are independent, we will become independent, they will respect it, make it you know,
make the women same way either men, too, then the problem will be solved. So discipline is something
in the teeth, and many people become convinced many women can disagree. This is the right way that
		
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			you know, if women also become equal to the men, then all the problems are solved.
		
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			If this is the case, really, the solution is the solution is there. How much of the solution many
people don't rely on that? Why Actually, I wrote my book. But before I bring Michael Krishna guests,
the solution, want to keep in mind always, that whenever a problem happens to society, any society
when a problem happens, if you don't want to solve the problem, in the light of the Quran sooner,
what will happen, then people will find a solution from somewhere else. People can't live with the
problem. Unless that make the instead of the human being to live with the problem. Nature really, to
solve the problem. Everybody knows that people are born really, people are not born to live with the
		
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			problem. People really are born to find solution for that matter. If you have difficulty, certainly
you have the patient, but you have to keep thinking how to solve a problem. If the women are
oppressed, they are being wronged in justices there are guys in the society
		
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			of Muslims don't make don't offer a solution for the Quran soon to what will happen Do you think
they will remain like that? No, if somebody is different, they find solution somewhere else. They
will look further. Everybody want to find their problem? They will do it. This is what many Muslim
to understand really, the ethic? No, no, most women should not do this because these women are not
right and feminist women and this and that inadequate to help reason cut these women who vote how,
how much they're wrong. And I tell the people really the conditions in which many Muslim women live.
If you if you make a Muslim men to live in this condition for a one a month, they will become mad.
		
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			This will tell them they will fight for solution. You know many, many people say that, you know if
the women are not divorced by their husband, and the water cooler, or we men are not ready to do
Hola, then we may we may have no solution except to go to Sharia court, or a Sharia court also did
not listen to them. They have no solution. They can't go to non Muslim non Muslim court, because
that's not allowed.
		
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			This is what we'll do on the same home Island when Muslims are saying no documented because the
Quran says allowing it in the last layer. I love it local coffee now the minister, Allah will never
make any Sabine any way for the coffee over the Muslim woman. Do you know? how can how can we will
go to non Muslim court? You do this? But when the problem happened to the men what they do?
		
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			They go to the same court from which they start with the women. If somebody takes your house, do you
got Sharia court? You go to British court?
		
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			You could actually even delvin within delvin fighting happened between two gurus. That who is going
to take over there? Well, what they did, did they get did they go to Sharia court? They deport a
Muslim, Muslim, you know, Guru, Muslim scholars who can judge among them, they went to Indian court.
And it is remarkable to know I think the case is still there. Nearly 3040 years is still the
fighting in National Court. If you do this thing Tell me really how women are going to listen to you
in hypocrisy. inconsistency. The first thing I read before I could say feminism, I really decided
our own attitude, our own attitude not to solve the problem. If we don't want to solve the problem,
		
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			problem will remain and it will vary so much it time will come when you have no hope to solve the
problem because other people will come and decide the product the solution will be dominant to
feminism is solving offering a solution. And if we don't have solution, even if their solution is
wrong, it is still to work because the solution is
		
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			Last week's solution around solution is already better than no solution. Everybody knows this thing,
if I have a problem, and my family are not offering a solution, somebody brings a hope. Even if that
hope actually is very bad, not very good solution. But listen, some promise freedom, I will go for
that. Because I want to solve my problem. We Muslims don't make effort to solve the problem we're
living with, where somebody has come to solve the problem. We said, No, don't listen to that person
is a calf or an unbeliever and this and that, this is not this is not writing really, to fasting, a
lot of people Muslim shouldn't make effort to solve the parameter women and freedom from many of
		
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			those injustice. And, you know, around those, that happening, Second thing, which actually I did in
my book is really, that, you know, our concern not only Muslim women, our concern are all the women.
So then I arrived early, you know, these women, you know, feminists, women were not Muslim, that the
solution that you're bringing is really hard, it actually goes against the cost that you are the
solution that you present, it basically will make life much more difficult, much more front, the
whole society. The problem here is not to make women equal to the men. This is not to solve the
problem, it will create more crime because women and men are different. If you make a weak one, it
		
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			will create more problems, what problems will happen? One example I can the problem will happen if
you say, we must, should have the same right
		
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			now Oh man, Watson, you know, in, in any place, you know, like in any company anywhere, he works
like in Tesco somewhere, she's pregnant.
		
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			She said to her boss, that I'm pregnant ID I needed some more, you know, concession or something. If
Actually, he accept the argument of feminism, he will simply it is your problem. I don't make
distinction. I haven't given you Sam right. Either men, men have this already, you get the same
order, you're being pregnant, regret is your problem. We want to make men of women equal, that you
know this equal tivity he will do this, then you become Mother, you need some death for your child,
you can't be your boss, he will sue it being a mother is your problem. You know, with many men
equally, it is your problem you can solve, but we actually treat men or women equally. Tell me what
		
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			level and when things sit more, they were worried that they've not got a bunch of women, because
they will seriously that you know, the, you know, having women is more proud of
		
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			when you actually come with the with the open with the idea of equality, it is going to hurt the
women, women will be deprived of the jobs, women will have more problems, being a mother will become
a defect. And now typically, people don't think being a mother developed, you know, the society is
being a mother a defect. People don't want women don't want to be mother. And when they become
mother, they don't want to get rid of this problem as soon as possible. Mother motherhood was a
virtue now, because of this feminism, it has become something different for the for the society,
then what is solution is solution not equality, what solution solution is fairness, people should be
		
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			treated fairly, you know, mother should be treated fairly either the mother and the father should be
treated fairly. I think father, fair, listen, fairness is the solution, equality that solution, you
know, leave them women, or the men are equal.
		
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			But art, art men also run in the in the world, there are so many men who are round, to being a
mentor that helped them the year it probably is a Cree quality, then at least America to them in any
way to why there's so much interest again the men, the real power of the society, not equality, the
inequality, the real problem is, you know, people are not fear. Fear is the only solution for the
society. People should be fair, if your child is 10 year old, you should be fair to him and by
firing a cloth of his size, if his 15 year old this year and buy clothes for him of his side, you
can't say no, I treat my son boss as equally I'm going to buy clothes for them equal, none of them
		
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			will be happy, in none of them would not want to make anybody happy. Equality, not solution
equality, not actually for a man it is not it is not the virtue, virtue not equality, virtue,
fairness. There are two what we need to see summary of the three main arguments we want to reality
really the Muslim and Muslim our men and women both, they should come forward and test your theory
teaching of religion. To be fair, fairness is fairness to the men, fairness to the women, fairness
to the poor, fair fairness to the rich people, fairness to everybody the society, that what is what
you bring the fairness and you don't actually prefer one part of society or other you will see what
		
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			will happen. It will change but at the moment Muslim society, they are not fear unless you bring
fairness to the society. You can't solve the problem. Muslims have got solution, but they don't want
to learn their solution and they don't want to implement it. We Muslim if we do this, none of Muslim
women. They will they will find attraction to salon they will see the salon. A bigger mother is a
virtual machine salon mother they actually give the treat the fairly they will see big wife in Islam
is a virtue. You know wives are equally respected.
		
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			Islam being a daughter is a virtue. And Muslim McKenna is the reward or the Prophet. If people
invest two daughters or three daughters, they get paradise and me and then like so close Muslim
daughter so much. If you treat fairly Islam will become attraction to you will come but the problem
really is that we Muslims don't make effort don't make effort to learn what fairness means. And if
you know something, we even are not ready to treat women fairly. And I mentioned a story once I was
in Manchester, one of my friend he came and he said
		
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			he said to me, I got a problem in my family with my wife, if you can advise me to I said, Okay,
explain to your your to your from the image problem between him and his wife in detail to I said to
him, but what he said to me in this matter if your wife is more right, she is the one who right you
are wrong. He said, I knew that you want to say this. But you know, I'm you know, right, I can't do
that. It's impossible to tell me this attitude. He knows what is fair treatment, and then that what
to do to tell me can you solve the problem? Don't you think Muslim women will go to actually to
those people who are for any solution? Because you know the solution. You know what fairness means?
		
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			And your teacher also said this is the fairness is still you're not ready to accept the fear isn't
it a fear not always it will be what will deserve fairness always will be a guest you deserve that
we salami you have to second you know really that our if I be fair with my wife, it will harm my
desire, but you have to do because fairness commodify Allah, if you think fairness will be something
which if you desire, it never can happen most society never can be run on the desire. There must be
run on the command of Allah and Allah commands, I should be fear. Whether I like or don't like,
doesn't matter really, I should be. But if you want to find a solution, which fulfills your desire,
		
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			their solution does not exist on the face of that simple matter.