Adnan Rashid – Ahmadi Under Heavy Fire

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The conversation covers various topics related to Islam, including the holy Quran, the holy Quran, and the book of dossinger. The speakers emphasize the importance of being patient and not interrupting, as distractions and mistakes can cause distractions and mistakes. The lack of evidence and false information remains unclear, as well as issues such as the loss of belief in the prophecy, the lack of sound judgment, and the struggles of current President Razi Q decadeian. The conversation also touches on religion, religion, and the future, as well as references to upcoming events and references to religion, religion, and the future.

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			Regarding Adnan Rashid and this brother Muhammad, I
		
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			don't know much about him, but my challenge
		
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			I repeat that they cannot discuss with me
		
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			from Quran and Hadith.
		
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			I hope you have the courage open challenge.
		
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			We can do it later because obviously Adnan
		
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			will never let Quran be discussed.
		
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			It's his worst nightmare.
		
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			Now you mentioned the prophecy of age.
		
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			Okay, this is the issue.
		
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			You people take one verse of the holy
		
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			Quran and you know how kuffar take one
		
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			verse of the holy Quran they misinterpret.
		
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			Don't look at other verses.
		
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			This is what you do with the writings
		
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			of the promised messiah alayhis salam.
		
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			Number one, Hazrat Ahmad alayhis salam in his
		
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			own books in 1905 in Brahim volume five.
		
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			He clearly explained that only Allah knows my
		
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			real age, but according to the knowledge I
		
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			have, I am around 70 years of age,
		
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			but this isn't even a debate topic brothers.
		
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			This is not even in the debate topic
		
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			because Adnan Rashid Sahib's father Muhammad Hussain Batalvi
		
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			and his other spiritual father Sanaullah Amritsari have
		
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			accepted that this prophecy was fulfilled.
		
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			So were you know more than them hundred
		
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			years later?
		
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			Number one.
		
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			Number two, you said Khalifa Awal r.a
		
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			mentioned 1839, but you have to remember till
		
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			that day the research was not done.
		
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			The research was done in the lives of
		
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			other khalifas.
		
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			There's a jamaat that he was born in
		
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			1835.
		
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			1835.
		
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			So there's not research going on.
		
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			Number three, Adnan Rashid read the reference of
		
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			Tawfiq Gholaviya.
		
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			Open it right now and read the whole
		
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			paragraph.
		
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			I'm not going to let you run away
		
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			from this.
		
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			The Tawfiq Gholaviya reference, you read that even
		
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			if you're already running Adnan.
		
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			You have to pull that out right now
		
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			and read it in front of everyone because
		
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			you lie.
		
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			You just smoke, brother.
		
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			Like the Jews.
		
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			And Muhammad Imtiaz lied as well.
		
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			Nishani asked me.
		
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			Nishani asked money.
		
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			I'll refute him on that.
		
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			And Adnan Rashid mentioned every book's name wrong.
		
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			Brother, do you read these books?
		
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			So just go on Google and find allegations.
		
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			Open Tawfiq Gholaviya right now.
		
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			Open that reference and read it out for
		
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			everyone.
		
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			Okay.
		
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			Okay.
		
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			One second.
		
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			Okay.
		
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			Thank you.
		
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			So I have a question for you very
		
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			quickly.
		
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			So let's make it easy.
		
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			You came very charged and very passionate and
		
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			very emotional.
		
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			Wait, wait, wait.
		
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			I understand.
		
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			I understand why you feel like that.
		
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			I completely understand.
		
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			Look, I am not a subhuman species or
		
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			I'm not an alien.
		
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			I am a human being.
		
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			I understand human emotions.
		
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			I know why you feel emotional about this.
		
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			Okay.
		
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			So don't think that we have no sympathy
		
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			for you.
		
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			We do.
		
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			What we would like to do today is
		
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			what we did the other day on your
		
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			stream, have conversations rather than shouting matches and
		
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			cutting each other.
		
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			So I have a very quick question and
		
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			try to answer it as soon as possible,
		
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			as quick as possible, as directly as possible.
		
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			When Mirza Ghulam Ahmad Qadiani said, God be
		
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			my witness that I speak the truth.
		
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			I am only 60 years of age.
		
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			This he said in 1901, 1901.
		
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			Okay.
		
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			Was Mirza lying or was he speaking the
		
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			truth?
		
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			Which one is it?
		
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			Because he claims he was speaking the truth
		
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			when we have the reference.
		
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			Over to you.
		
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			Answer.
		
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			So really important question.
		
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			JazakAllah.
		
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			So now we are moving somewhere.
		
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			You have to remember that Hazrat Ahmad Al
		
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			-Ahsan was a true prophet of Allah.
		
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			He never lied.
		
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			But if you look, the statements you mentioned,
		
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			answer the allegation.
		
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			You mentioned in this year, you mentioned this
		
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			year, in this year, you mentioned he's this
		
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			age.
		
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			He himself explained in Brahim 5 that Allah
		
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			knows my truth.
		
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			I'm around 70.
		
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			It was always estimation.
		
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			This is how he explained it.
		
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			And this is how all Ahmadis understand it.
		
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			Now read the page of Tawfiq Why are
		
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			you afraid?
		
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			Open it right now, please.
		
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			Read that page.
		
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			Okay.
		
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			Okay.
		
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			We will.
		
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			We will.
		
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			Wait.
		
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			Right now.
		
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			Right now.
		
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			Yes.
		
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			Yes.
		
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			Yes.
		
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			Yes.
		
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			Yes.
		
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			Yes.
		
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			Yes.
		
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			Yes.
		
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			Yes.
		
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			Yes.
		
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			Yes.
		
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			Yes.
		
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			Yes.
		
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			Yes.
		
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			Yes.
		
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			Alhamdulillah.
		
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			And one sec.
		
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			One point.
		
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			You know, one sec.
		
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			Let me just say one statement.
		
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			Then I'll listen to you patiently.
		
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			Just one.
		
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			Let me please just let me make the
		
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			one point.
		
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			Okay.
		
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			Let me make the quick statement.
		
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			Okay.
		
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			And by the way, if you ask someone
		
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			to read something, I think because you're making
		
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			the point.
		
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			So you should bring that whatever references is
		
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			and you quote it while asking others to
		
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			read it.
		
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			You bring it and then we will reflect
		
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			on it.
		
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			I just want to ask Brother Muhammad one
		
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			point.
		
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			If a prophet says something and then something
		
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			else happens, right?
		
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			Not what he thought Allah meant.
		
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			Is he a liar or no?
		
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			Just say yes or no.
		
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			I'm not asking for details.
		
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			And then I read the page.
		
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			Yes or no.
		
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			Wait.
		
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			Wait.
		
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			Wait.
		
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			Wait.
		
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			Wait.
		
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			Wait.
		
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			Wait.
		
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			Wait.
		
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			Wait.
		
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			Wait.
		
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			Before you answer that question.
		
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			This is a digression.
		
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			This is what you call it.
		
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			Digression.
		
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			How?
		
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			Okay.
		
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			I'm going to request again and I will
		
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			remind you again.
		
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			Look how beautiful, how nice and how polite
		
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			you were on your stream.
		
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			When I came on your stream, I praised
		
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			you for your politeness, for your generosity, for
		
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			your kindness.
		
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			And today you're behaving very differently.
		
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			And I even mentioned in your stream that
		
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			let's see if we can do this on
		
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			our stream.
		
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			And clearly it's not happening.
		
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			Okay.
		
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			So Razi, let's make it a conversation so
		
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			that our audiences can benefit.
		
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			Okay.
		
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			So before you throw another question, which we
		
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			will address, which you will address respectfully, can
		
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			you now tell me when Mirza said, God
		
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			be my witness on oath.
		
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			This is oath.
		
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			This is an oath.
		
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			God be my witness that I speak the
		
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			truth.
		
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			Yes.
		
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			I am only 60 years of age.
		
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			And he said this in 1901, where he
		
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			said this, the district court of Gurdaspur.
		
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			This is recorded history.
		
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			This cannot be denied.
		
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			He said, God be my witness.
		
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			Was Mirza Ghulam Ahmad Qadiani lying or was
		
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			he speaking the truth?
		
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			He was speaking the truth because everywhere he
		
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			mentions his date of birth, it's estimation.
		
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			And in this around that time as well,
		
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			we find other years as well.
		
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			Never did he claim this is based on
		
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			Wahi and Inham.
		
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			Now read the page of Tawfiq Gholar via
		
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			Adnan.
		
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			I'm not letting you run today.
		
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			Today you cannot run.
		
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			Please open Tawfiq Gholar via.
		
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			Why didn't you read the page of Tawfiq
		
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			Gholar via.
		
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			I'm not going to let this happen.
		
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			I'm not going to let this happen.
		
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			Please open Tawfiq Gholar via.
		
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			Tell me which page.
		
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			He won't do it.
		
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			He knows he lied.
		
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			He's like the Jew.
		
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			Imtiaz bhai, wait.
		
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			Follow my lead.
		
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			Wait.
		
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			Here again, I will remind Raziullah, brothers and
		
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			sisters, please go and watch my appearance on
		
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			the Qadiani live stream the other day, about
		
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			two or three days ago.
		
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			And we had a very beautiful conversation.
		
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			Five Qadiani's there.
		
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			Okay.
		
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			Talking on top of me.
		
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			And I was responding to them very politely.
		
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			No interruptions from Razi, no interruptions from Ahmed,
		
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			and no interruptions from Tahir, the host, and
		
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			no interruptions from two Arab Qadiani's.
		
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			Today Razi, for some reason, seems to be
		
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			very charged and he's not answering straight questions.
		
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			He said, Mirza Ghulam Ahmed Qadiani spoke the
		
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			truth.
		
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			I asked him this question that when Mirza
		
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			said, God be my witness that I speak
		
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			the truth.
		
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			I am only 60 years of age.
		
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			Only qualifies the precise nature of the number
		
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			he's mentioning.
		
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			Only.
		
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			Wait, wait, wait, Raziullah.
		
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			Raziullah, wait.
		
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			This is at the district court of Gurdaspur.
		
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			The reference is taken from Manzoor-e-Ilahi
		
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			publication at Qadian, 1922.
		
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			Okay.
		
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			Page 241.
		
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			Okay.
		
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			That's the reference.
		
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			Okay.
		
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			Here, Mirza Ghulam Ahmed Qadiani is saying, God
		
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			be my witness that I speak the truth.
		
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			I am only 60 years of age.
		
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			Razi responded, he's a prophet.
		
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			He speaks the truth and he spoke the
		
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			truth.
		
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			And if he spoke the truth, he's 60
		
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			years in 1901.
		
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			That means in 1908, he is at least
		
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			67, 67.
		
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			That means he's a liar because he himself
		
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			gave specific numbers that I will die between
		
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			74 and 86.
		
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			So by Razi's own confession, a so-called
		
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			prophet is a liar.
		
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			And Razi keeps interrupting me because this is
		
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			what these Ahmadi missionaries do on their appeals
		
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			or their streams.
		
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			They are very calm, very compassionate, very generous,
		
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			very polite.
		
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			But when they come and talk to us
		
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			on our streams, this is what they do.
		
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			So Razi, I will request again, behave exactly
		
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			how you are behaving in your stream, please.
		
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			So now, by Razi's own confession, Mirza Ghulam
		
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			Ahmed Qadiani is a liar.
		
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			And if one of his prophecies proves to
		
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			be a lie, then he himself said, I
		
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			am a liar.
		
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			Now over to you Imtiaz Bhai and then
		
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			we'll go to Razi.
		
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			Over to you.
		
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			Can I answer first?
		
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			Yeah, after.
		
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			Razi, let brother Imtiaz make a point because
		
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			he's been waiting for a while now.
		
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			Okay.
		
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			So Hashim Bhai, inshallah, after this one, I
		
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			have to pray inshallah Fajr.
		
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			Okay, brother, inshallah.
		
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			Very quickly, inshallah.
		
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			Now I will show the audience that how,
		
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			Alhamdulillah, we answer the questions directly.
		
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			Razi, ask me a question that is it
		
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			possible as a usool, as a principle, if
		
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			a prophet says something and that thing does
		
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			not happen?
		
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			Razi, is your question right?
		
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			My question was, is it possible for a
		
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			prophet to prophesy something from Allah the Almighty
		
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			and then what he interpreted as does not
		
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			occur?
		
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			Okay.
		
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			Okay.
		
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			No problem.
		
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			So now people listen very carefully.
		
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			There is a usool called tahaddi.
		
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			Tahaddi means that when a prophet throws a
		
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			challenge and he says that I'm going to
		
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			say this thing and this thing is going
		
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			to be the test and criterion to check
		
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			the truthfulness of my claim.
		
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			This is called tahaddi.
		
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			Okay.
		
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			Razi, answer to your question is it can
		
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			never happen that a prophet says something as
		
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			tahaddi.
		
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			As tahaddi, as Mirza Sahib said that this
		
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			is going to be a sign to check
		
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			the truthfulness of my claim for the future
		
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			generation.
		
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			It is called tahaddi.
		
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			So my answer is once a prophet gives
		
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			a tahaddi, a challenge as a criterion to
		
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			check the truthfulness of his claim, it will
		
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			always happen as the prophet will say.
		
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			That is number one.
		
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			Okay.
		
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			I think that's enough.
		
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			Now I should give a chance.
		
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			We will give you a chance.
		
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			So Alhamdulillah, people can see we gave the
		
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			direct answer.
		
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			That's number one.
		
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			Number two, if prophet with his ijtihad, if
		
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			prophet through his ijtihad, he says something, okay,
		
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			there may be a possibility of error.
		
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			However, in the case of prophet, Allah never
		
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			leaves a prophet on error.
		
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			That is the point here.
		
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			Any other mujtahid can make a mistake and
		
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			he can stay on the mistake.
		
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			In the case of prophet, if a prophet
		
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			makes an error, Allah cracks the prophet.
		
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			Allah never leaves a prophet on the mistake.
		
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			Number three, Mirza Sahib said that Allah will
		
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			not leave me on mistake even for a
		
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			brief moment.
		
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			Now my question is, according to these last
		
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			two points, if Mirza Sahib made a ijtihad
		
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			error, a mistake of jurisprudence, when Allah corrected
		
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			him.
		
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			My question is this, okay.
		
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			Number two, if Allah did not correct Mirza
		
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			for how long?
		
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			This prophecy was in the public for more
		
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			than two decades.
		
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			And Mirza was making statements in the public
		
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			under oath for more than two decades.
		
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			It means that Mirza was making a mistake.
		
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			And Mirza said that Allah will not leave
		
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			me on mistake.
		
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			Number one.
		
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			Number two, Mirza was a prophet.
		
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			If a prophet makes a mistake, Allah must
		
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			correct him.
		
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			Answer the question.
		
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			Okay.
		
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			Okay.
		
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			Before he answers, before he answers very quickly,
		
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			just to clarify for the audience, what our
		
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			brother Imtiaz said is that Mirza Ghulam Ahmad
		
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			Qadiani in his own writings said that Allah
		
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			will not leave me upon error even for
		
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			a moment.
		
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			Correct?
		
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			Allah will not leave me upon error even
		
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			for a moment.
		
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			If Mirza is right, then why is he
		
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			making errors when he's saying or when he's
		
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			talking about his age?
		
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			And why did Allah leave him upon error
		
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			for 20 years?
		
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			He said not even a moment.
		
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			20 years Mirza is upon error.
		
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			And he's upon error about something that belongs
		
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			to the tahaddi category.
		
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			As brother Imtiaz highlighted quite beautifully that tahaddi
		
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			is a challenge which comes directly from Allah.
		
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			When a Nabi, when a prophet makes a
		
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			challenge, that challenge cannot be broken.
		
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			That challenge cannot be false because that challenge,
		
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			if it's falsified, then Allah is falsified.
		
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			Allah takes full responsibility of a challenge put
		
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			out by Nabi and Nabi himself does not
		
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			have the authority to put out a challenge
		
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			if Allah has not revealed that challenge to
		
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			him because the Nabi speaks from Wahi.
		
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			So Mirza made a challenge.
		
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			Mirza was in error for more than 20
		
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			years and Mirza said Allah will not leave
		
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			him upon error for even a moment.
		
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			Mirza was a liar.
		
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			Therefore, Mirza Ghulam Ahmed Qadiani was lying.
		
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			Therefore, over to you, Razi.
		
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			Okay, so firstly, this is unjust.
		
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			Hashim bhai, look at this.
		
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			They spoke for 20 minutes.
		
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			No, Razi, if you listen from the starting,
		
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			we said that this is a Q&A.
		
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			This is our platform.
		
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			We are giving the people, the guests who
		
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			come in two minutes.
		
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			We never said it's two minutes for us
		
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			and this is not about being unjust.
		
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			This is something we said from the very
		
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			beginning.
		
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			Adnan made this very clear.
		
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			So just to emphasize, this is not unjust
		
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			if we have already made it clear from
		
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			the start.
		
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			So one second, I'm just going to put
		
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			a timer on so I don't get cut
		
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			off.
		
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			Adnan, but you won't cut me off, right?
		
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			While I'm speaking or will you?
		
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			I don't think anybody cut you off.
		
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			You're the one doing the cutting off, you
		
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			and Ahmed.
		
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			So please practice what you preach.
		
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			So one second, I'll restart.
		
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			Yeah, go on.
		
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			Okay, so first thing is that Adnan Rashid
		
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			lied that Hazrat Ahmed was not corrected by
		
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			Allah in 1905.
		
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			Allah told him that you have three sips
		
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			of water left.
		
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			Allah made it clear that there are three
		
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			years left to his life.
		
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			In Haqiqatul Wahi, Hazrat Ahmed explains that I'm
		
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			around 70 years of age right now.
		
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			So you lied and said that he always
		
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			said he's 60 or something like that.
		
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			He always explained that his age, it's always
		
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			estimation.
		
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			He said in Haqiqatul Wahi that at this
		
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			moment, when I challenged Dawi, I was the
		
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			age of 70.
		
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			Number one.
		
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			Number two, Mohammad Imtiaz, Adnan Rashid, Hashim, you
		
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			mentioned the Asul.
		
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			If something is regarding the challenge of the
		
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			truth of Prophet, he will never misinterpret it.
		
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			If I show you an example from Hazrat
		
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			Mohammad, right now, are you three ready to
		
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			leave Islam?
		
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			Yes or no?
		
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			Hashim, will you leave Islam?
		
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			Adnan, will you leave Islam?
		
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			This is your two minutes.
		
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			So please, you're getting two minutes, not more
		
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			than that.
		
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			Please complete your point.
		
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			Answer the question because you're doing the same
		
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			thing Ahmed is doing.
		
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			You're waffling.
		
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			When you're getting an answer, you're going to
		
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			always call it waffling, right?
		
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			The point is...
		
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			No, you're asking a question.
		
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			You're not answering.
		
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			Mohammad Imtiaz has to unfortunately reread his Shahada
		
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			because he lied against Rasulullah and Hazrat Nuh.
		
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			Hazrat Nuh prophesied that his family will be
		
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			saved and he gave this challenge to the
		
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			Kuffar when he was making the boat.
		
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			He told them that we will see who
		
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			the punishment comes upon.
		
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			That was the Hadith.
		
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			Number two, Sulah Hudaybiyah vision, Nabi Sassan, that
		
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			was the Hadith as well and the Sahaba
		
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			had to return.
		
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			They couldn't do Umrah.
		
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			Then there's a Hadith of Sahih Muslim where
		
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			Nabi Sassan said, the wife with the longest
		
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			hand will die first and the wife who
		
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			died was not the actual one who had
		
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			the longest hand.
		
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			Now you're putting your hands up.
		
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			You mocked two Prophets, Hazrat Yusuf A.S.
		
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			and he told them that the punishment is
		
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			about to overcome them.
		
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			That was the Hadith.
		
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			It was now fulfilled as he said.
		
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			All three of you have just mocked Yunus,
		
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			mocked Nuh A.S. and Hazrat Mohammad Sassan
		
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			and you people have left the fold of
		
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			Islam according to your own Usul and you
		
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			lied against other Prophets as well who made
		
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			Prophets and misinterpreted them although they were Tahaddi.
		
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			Hazrat Ahmad Al-Ahsan did not misinterpret this
		
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			prophecy of 80 years.
		
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			He never said Allah told me I'm 80
		
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			in Brahim and he said I'm around 70
		
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			years of age and he also explained your
		
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			own Ulema Sanaullah Batalvi, he fulfilled this prophecy
		
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			yet you people are here 100 years later
		
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			crying about a prophecy your spiritual fathers accepted.
		
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			Batalvi also called the non-Rashid's forefathers sinners.
		
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			Maybe that's why he wants to disown him
		
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			today.
		
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			Your own Ulema accepted, it's fulfilled.
		
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			How dare you raise an allegation on a
		
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			prophecy your Ulema say is fulfilled.
		
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			Hazrat Ahmad Al-Ahsan always gave references of
		
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			approximation.
		
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			In 1905 he said three cups of water
		
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			are left.
		
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			That referred to the three years he was
		
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			corrected and he fulfilled the 8th prophecy according
		
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			to us.
		
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			Okay your two minutes are up and you're
		
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			repeating yourself anyway.
		
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			Okay Muhammad Bhai, Imtiaz Bhai go on.
		
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			Okay so inshallah first of all I think
		
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			Razi need to understand the question first okay.
		
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			The hadith is called when a prophet gives
		
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			a challenge from Allah subhanahu wa ta'ala
		
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			that look if this thing will not happen
		
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			then I am not a true prophet okay.
		
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			Now I want Razi to produce for me
		
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			that for example he gave example of many
		
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			prophets.
		
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			Let's pick one of them.
		
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			Our beloved prophet sallallahu alaihi wasallam.
		
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			Razi just quoted he said that they went
		
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			for Hudaybiyah okay and they did not perform
		
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			the Umrah.
		
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			He gave this as one example.
		
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			Now my question to Razi is produce to
		
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			me the report where our Nabi sallallahu alaihi
		
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			wasallam has said that people listen I am
		
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			going to go to perform Umrah this year
		
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			and if I don't perform Umrah this year
		
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			I am not a true prophet.
		
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			Okay bring the report.
		
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			Beautiful beautiful okay so this shows you accepted
		
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			that you're a liar.
		
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			Number one where is listen listen don't put
		
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			your hands up now please listen I listen
		
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			carefully.
		
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			You gave a definition for Hadi that they
		
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			have to say that if this is from
		
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			God and it doesn't happen then I'm alive.
		
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			Prove this definition from the Quran.
		
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			Read the ayat of surah regarding Hazrat Nuh
		
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			sallallahu alaihi wasallam surah Hud and Hazrat Nuh
		
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			sallallahu alaihi wasallam.
		
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			Your own ulema including Ibn Hajar al-Asqalani
		
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			explained that Hazrat Nuh sallallahu alaihi wasallam challenged
		
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			them that I am prophesying you will be
		
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			destroyed and he left them brother.
		
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			He even left and said I will never
		
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			return to my people as a liar.
		
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			Were they punished yes or no?
		
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			Just answer yes or no.
		
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			You know they were because the Quran says
		
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			So according to you Yunus sallallahu alaihi wasallam
		
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			Nabi sallallahu alaihi wasallam and Nuh sallallahu alaihi
		
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			wasallam were liars.
		
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			You were just using the shoulder of Hazrat
		
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			Nuh sallallahu alaihi wasallam to reject Nabi sallallahu
		
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			alaihi wasallam.
		
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			Surah Hudayb as well you asked Let me
		
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			finish let me finish let me finish.
		
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			Surah Hudayb as.
		
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			Make one point, make one point.
		
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			Last point regarding surah Hudayb as you said
		
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			where did Nabi sallallahu alaihi wasallam say that
		
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			if I am not true if I am
		
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			true then we would definitely go this year.
		
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			This was not a claim.
		
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			Did the sahaba not go with the surah
		
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			sasm going with the thought that they would
		
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			go this year?
		
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			Did Nabi sallallahu alaihi wasallam not think he
		
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			would go that year?
		
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			Is that not what the sahaba thought?
		
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			Did Hazrat Umar radiyallahu anhu not say I
		
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			never doubted Islam till this day and then
		
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			he was corrected?
		
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			So don't try these games.
		
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			The definition of hadith is nowhere in Quran
		
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			hadith.
		
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			You have made these usool in your kitchen
		
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			brother.
		
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			They're nowhere from Quran hadith.
		
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			You're done now?
		
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			Okay.
		
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			Let's deal with them one by one.
		
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			Okay number one Razi said that Yunus alaihissalam
		
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			he said that the punishment will come on
		
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			the people and it did not come.
		
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			Razi please pay attention.
		
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			Okay Allah has told in the Quran about
		
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			this principle that Allah says Allah subhanahu wa
		
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			ta'ala in the Quran has declared istisna
		
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			an exception for only one nation and that
		
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			was the nation Yunus alaihissalam.
		
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			Allah subhanahu wa ta'ala has given my
		
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			answer already in the Quran so you cannot
		
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			quote an exception because when you are discussing
		
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			you cannot quote istisna in order to prove
		
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			the regularities.
		
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			That is one answer.
		
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			Second answer is about sulhadebia.
		
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			My brother Razi Allah subhanahu wa ta'ala
		
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			planned this thing.
		
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			Allah calls this journey of Hudaibiyah and the
		
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			pact of Hudaibiyah fatham mubeena.
		
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			Brother please pay attention.
		
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			Allah is calling it fatham mubeena and are
		
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			you trying to say that this was a
		
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			failed prophecy?
		
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			Please think about this.
		
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			Okay and everybody who knows the seerah they
		
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			know that if this hajj or umrah would
		
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			have been performed in this year then all
		
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			the rest of the things they would not
		
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			have come the way they came and that
		
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			is the reason Allah called this fatham mubeena.
		
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			My brother please listen.
		
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			Allah is calling something fatham mubeena.
		
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			Okay and you call it as a failed
		
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			prophecy?
		
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			Please think about this and last point about
		
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			the prophecy of Nuh alaihissalaam.
		
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			My question to you is Nuh alaihissalaam announced
		
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			a punishment.
		
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			Did punishment come or not?
		
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			My question to you is this.
		
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			Now listen the usool of Mirza sahib.
		
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			Let me answer now.
		
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			Let me answer because you lied so many
		
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			times.
		
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			You're about to be finned.
		
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			Mirza sahib has set a usool.
		
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			He said that in the case of prophecy
		
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			you need to deal the nafse pishin goi
		
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			which means the subject matter of the prophecy
		
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			and then Mirza sahib says I am not
		
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			accepting it.
		
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			I don't believe in Mirza but you believe
		
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			in him.
		
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			Mirza said that the timings are not important.
		
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			What's important is the subject matter.
		
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			Now in the case of Hudaibiyah apply the
		
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			same principle.
		
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			Okay sahaba did perform the umrah number one
		
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			they went next year and Mirza sahib says
		
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			that the subject matter is important.
		
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			It is not the timing.
		
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			I don't accept this one but you believe
		
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			in Mirza sahib and lastly please you need
		
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			to tell me this point.
		
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			Allah is calling this journey of first year
		
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			towards Hudaibiyah.
		
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			Allah is calling it Fatha Mubeena.
		
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			Are you calling it a failed prophecy?
		
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			This is my question.
		
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			Jazakumullah.
		
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			So you have one second.
		
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			Brother it's us two now.
		
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			You're irrelevant right now brother.
		
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			One second.
		
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			Okay we're gonna keep it as civil as
		
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			possible again.
		
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			I would like to remind you so that
		
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			people can benefit from our conversation.
		
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			We don't have these conversations every day and
		
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			this is a golden opportunity to get to
		
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			our people.
		
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			People who listen and follow.
		
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			So all three examples you gave are irrelevant
		
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			to what Mirza is doing to himself and
		
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			to his prophecies.
		
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			So your attempt to bring the Quran and
		
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			hadith in doesn't support you as brother Imtiaz
		
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			has clearly highlighted that you are the one
		
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			always insisting Quran and hadith Quran and hadith
		
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			and they don't support you.
		
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			In fact the Quran and hadith are directly
		
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			against you and your claim to prophethood about
		
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			Mirza.
		
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			Okay so this is very very clear.
		
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			Okay Mirza gave challenges.
		
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			Mirza gave challenges and claimed that if these
		
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			challenges are not fulfilled and he gave specific
		
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			details.
		
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			He gave specific details what the subject matter
		
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			is.
		
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			The subject matter is the detail.
		
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			The limit he himself puts on his prophecies.
		
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			He said I will die between the age
		
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			of 74 and 86.
		
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			Then he says Allah is my witness that
		
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			I am speaking the truth.
		
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			I am 60 years old in 1901.
		
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			That makes him 67 upon his death.
		
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			That means Mirza by his own confession the
		
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			issue of subject matter he's a liar because
		
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			the subject matter of his prophecy was what
		
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			and this was a Nishan.
		
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			This was supposed to be a sign from
		
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			Allah in Mirza that I will die at
		
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			this age 80.
		
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			First he said 80 give and take more
		
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			or less somewhat give and take.
		
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			Then he gave specific timing specific years 74
		
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			and 86 and he dies at 69 and
		
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			he did not reach the age of 70
		
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			by the confession of his own words and
		
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			his immediate follower the Khalifa Hakeem Nuruddin.
		
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			So all of this shows us that Mirza
		
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			was a liar and your attempts to use
		
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			the prophecies and the examples of the life
		
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			of the Prophet do not work.
		
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			You cannot protect a liar.
		
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			You cannot defend a liar by using these
		
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			examples.
		
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			Over to you.
		
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			Two minutes.
		
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			So first brother Muhammad Imtiaz just lied to
		
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			everyone.
		
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			He lied regarding the Quran and did Kufr
		
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			by doing so.
		
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			He said that Yunus A.S. regarding him
		
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			Allah says that it's only his Qaum.
		
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			Allah says because of their faith that was
		
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			the only Qaum that did this.
		
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			But your Ulema exposed you.
		
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			Your spiritual father Ibn Taymiyyah who Adhan Rashid
		
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			believes is in the hellfire says your other
		
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			Ulema explained that every Wa'id prophecy is
		
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			based on aff of if the person repents
		
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			Allah removes the punishment.
		
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			Read Surah Al-Maida the story of Musa
		
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			A.S. and the people during his time.
		
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			So do not lie against the Quran in
		
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			your own Ulema.
		
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			Your scholars have Ijman this that every prophecy
		
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			that has to do with Wa'id you
		
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			said it was only Yunus A.S. Why
		
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			did you lie?
		
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			Fear Allah brother.
		
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			Number one.
		
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			Number two you lied regarding Hazrat Nuh A
		
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			.S. that it was not the Hadith.
		
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			Read the Ayat brother.
		
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			He's challenging the people that let us see
		
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			who the punishment comes upon.
		
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			He told them my family will be protected.
		
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			Did his son drown or not?
		
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			So you mock Yunus A.S. as well.
		
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			Regarding Surah Hudaibiyah we believe no doubt but
		
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			you lied against the Surah with your Usul
		
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			and put him in the category of false
		
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			prophecy and you ignored the long hand prophecy.
		
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			Regarding Adnan Rashid you have to remember Hazrat
		
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			Ahmed A.S. in Tawfiq Ghoribiya explains he
		
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			was born on the Friday 14th lunar calendar
		
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			in Zikr-e-Habib.
		
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			It's written that he was born in the
		
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			month of Falgun.
		
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			The Khalifa Sani did the full research and
		
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			it was 1835.
		
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			Last point I want to mention is Adnan
		
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			Rashid quoted brother Hashim.
		
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			I'm sorry if I go past him but
		
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			please let me finish this one.
		
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			Adnan Rashid may Allah guide you.
		
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			You lied about Tawfiq Ghoribiya and said Hazrat
		
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			Ahmed A.S. said that even if one
		
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			prophecy fails I am a liar.
		
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			The context there is he says I challenge
		
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			all the Muslim ulema to come in a
		
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			sitting with me and then prove a single
		
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			prophecy to be false and then I am
		
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			a liar.
		
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			All of your scholars were scared.
		
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			Not one stood up because they knew that
		
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			if they discuss with him from Quran and
		
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			Hadith what will happen is what's happening to
		
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			you right now.
		
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			Regarding the challenges Hazrat Ahmed A.S. did
		
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			a challenge.
		
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			I am writing this Arabic Tafsir.
		
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			No one will write better than me.
		
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			Not a single man stood up.
		
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			But I'll be together.
		
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			I think your time is up now.
		
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			I promise.
		
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			Last sentence.
		
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			Just last sentence.
		
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			I just end with the quote from Imam
		
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			Ghazali attributed to him.
		
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			He says that if a person says that
		
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			I am a prophet of Allah and then
		
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			he puts his finger up and says today
		
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			no one will be able to put this
		
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			finger down then know that he's a truthful
		
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			prophet of Allah.
		
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			Till today this Arabic challenge Surah Fatiha Tafsir.
		
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			Muhammad Hussain Batardi couldn't even.
		
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			Okay thank you.
		
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			Thank you Raziullah.
		
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			What are you talking about?
		
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			Okay carry on brother Imtiaz.
		
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			Okay okay Raziullah before I start my turn
		
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			can you please again quote the quote about
		
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			the Wa'id.
		
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			Please quote the Arabic text about the Wa
		
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			'id.
		
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			Yes so let me open it again.
		
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			One second please.
		
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			Yes.
		
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			So there's two.
		
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			The first one that I quoted two.
		
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			I said all your scholars say this.
		
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			So I said I've mentioned two points.
		
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			Once I mentioned one I mentioned is Ibn
		
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			Taymiyyah.
		
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			He says Wa kullu Wa'idin fil Quran
		
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			fa huwa mashrooth.
		
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			You said it's only regarding Yunus.
		
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			You lied.
		
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			You lied.
		
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			Okay you lied.
		
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			The second one is I didn't read the
		
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			Arabic of this but I said here all
		
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			your scholars agree.
		
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			Imam Razi says more scholars I can present
		
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			as well but you lied.
		
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			You said it's only regarding Yunus.
		
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			We are online and live right now.
		
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			Okay Imtiaz you can respond now.
		
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			Okay okay Inshallah.
		
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			First of all let's let's begin with the
		
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			last point first.
		
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			Okay if Razi does not know the reference
		
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			for the ayah which end with illa comma
		
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			Yunus inshallah I give the reference but if
		
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			he knows the reference please put that ayah
		
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			on the screen and interpret for us.
		
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			Okay number one that it that what exception
		
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			Allah is giving in this ayah to comma
		
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			Yunus you need to explain for all of
		
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			us.
		
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			Okay that point is done.
		
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			Now second point is this.
		
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			Everybody can go back and that's why I
		
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			asked him to quote the reference again.
		
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			When he quoted the reference it was only
		
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			about okay but when it was in the
		
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			English he says that every and prophecy.
		
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			My brother Vanessa is saying that my age
		
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			is going to be long.
		
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			Is it a good news?
		
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			It's not okay.
		
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			Is he basically threatening or warning people because
		
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			these are two things.
		
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			What are the glad tidings?
		
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			My brother Razi what are the glad tidings
		
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			and why are the warnings of warnings telling
		
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			people that my age will be like 80
		
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			or more than 80 something.
		
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			Is it a threat to people or is
		
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			it a blessing for the people?
		
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			Please explain for us.
		
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			How can you put this one under the
		
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			category of wise?
		
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			Beautiful question.
		
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			Let me answer.
		
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			Okay and then you said then you said
		
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			about the son of Noah and please before
		
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			I say this please do not play these
		
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			emotional games by saying that okay you have
		
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			you know said this about all the prophets.
		
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			Let's not do this.
		
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			Okay let's have an academic discussion because these
		
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			things are not good in an academic setting.
		
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			Please don't do this.
		
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			Okay now regarding the son of Noah how
		
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			can you make this up?
		
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			Allah has clarified to Noah in the Quran
		
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			that your son is not from your family.
		
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			Okay my brother please please every time you
		
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			are sorry wait wait wait wait wait wait
		
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			wait Imtiaz bhai so you're saying Razi is
		
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			making a kafir son of Noah's family while
		
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			the Quran says while the Quran says the
		
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			Quran says so Razi is now playing games
		
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			with the Quran as well.
		
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			The Quran is saying that the son of
		
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			Noah is not from his family.
		
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			In other words the words are Shush please
		
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			Razi please Razi Razi remain civil.
		
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			Control yourself as you did beautifully on your
		
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			stream.
		
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			Okay or if you had special pills on
		
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			that night go and have that pill have
		
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			two of them and come back.
		
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			Okay so that we can continue in good
		
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			spirit.
		
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			So Quran is saying he is not from
		
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			his family.
		
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			Over to you Imtiaz bhai.
		
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			Okay okay my brother Imtiaz bhai is done.
		
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			Let me answer now.
		
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			No no no wait.
		
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			It's not finished.
		
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			That's unfair.
		
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			When you start looking next time let him
		
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			finish.
		
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			Let him finish next time because Uthaymeen is
		
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			about to expose you so bad Adnan bhai.
		
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			You just mocked him and he's about to
		
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			destroy you.
		
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			Okay go Imtiaz bhai.
		
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			Razi Razi Razi.
		
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			What did you eat?
		
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			No no wait wait wait Imtiaz bhai.
		
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			Adnan bhai it's okay let Imtiaz bhai finish.
		
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			I haven't eaten anything actually.
		
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			I haven't eaten since Fajr prayer.
		
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			I want to understand.
		
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			I want to understand.
		
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			Okay he's done.
		
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			Can I speak now?
		
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			No no no.
		
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			He's done the Fajr prayer.
		
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			I haven't eaten for Fajr prayer.
		
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			He's worried.
		
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			Yes Razi Razi.
		
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			Razi we we you know where we are?
		
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			You know we are in three different continents.
		
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			Sorry four different continents actually.
		
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			We're in 200 plus countries.
		
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			No no wait wait Razi.
		
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			I'm speaking from Africa.
		
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			Hashim is in Europe.
		
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			Our brother Imtiaz is in Australia.
		
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			And you are in Canada.
		
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			Okay.
		
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			So these are four different continents.
		
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			And let's make it worthwhile.
		
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			We are all in different time zones.
		
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			Some of us haven't had sleep.
		
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			Okay.
		
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			So I'm thoroughly enjoying this by the way.
		
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			Not that because you know I want to
		
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			put you down or humiliate you.
		
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			It's not that.
		
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			It's just I want your audience to see
		
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			what games your missionaries play with their minds
		
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			and how you misguide them.
		
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			And there is an outright liar a clay
		
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			cut liar who was confused about his own
		
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			age and he repeatedly lied telling upon oath
		
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			his people that I am speaking the truth
		
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			by Allah.
		
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			By Allah.
		
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			In the name of Allah.
		
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			Allah is my witness that I am speaking
		
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			the truth that in 1901 I am in
		
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			1901 I am 60.
		
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			So Mirza to save him you are playing
		
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			all these games.
		
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			And you know what Imtiaz bhai we are
		
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			actually falling into it.
		
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			We are dealing with all these.
		
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			You know what these are distractions.
		
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			What he is doing.
		
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			What they did last day.
		
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			Wait wait.
		
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			This is my time.
		
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			I can say what I like.
		
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			I can say what I like in my
		
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			time.
		
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			Your time is not yet.
		
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			You have to be patient.
		
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			Please don't interrupt.
		
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			Did you watch my behavior the other day?
		
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			In the stream?
		
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			Did you watch me?
		
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			Carefully?
		
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			Yes yes I am listening brother.
		
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			Please continue.
		
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			Did you watch me behave?
		
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			Yeah but we give you full time.
		
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			If you give me full time I will
		
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			interrupt you.
		
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			If you give me as much time we
		
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			give you I will interrupt.
		
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			At times you guys were talking gibberish.
		
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			I kept my quiet.
		
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			I kept my patience.
		
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			I listened to you.
		
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			I was taking notes and I responded in
		
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			due course respectfully with honor.
		
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			Because you were behaving honorably.
		
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			Today you are dishonoring all of us by
		
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			behaving like this.
		
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			So please remain silent until we are finished.
		
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			Okay.
		
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			I want to not digress.
		
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			Brother Imtiaz you have given all the answers.
		
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			Just this one.
		
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			Yes.
		
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			Okay finish and then come back to me.
		
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			InshaAllah this will be inshaAllah because I love
		
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			Adnan this will be inshaAllah my last take
		
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			on this subject.
		
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			Okay brothers please pay attention.
		
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			When Razi comes for his turn I want
		
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			Razi to explain for us that in the
		
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			ayah which ends with illa qauma yunus he
		
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			needs to explain to us that in this
		
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			ayah what exception Allah is talking about about
		
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			the qauma yunus number one.
		
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			And number two very quickly because Razi again
		
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			he tried to give the impression because our
		
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			point was that Mirza was continuously for more
		
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			for around two decades making a mistake under
		
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			oath regarding his date of birth.
		
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			And then we raised the point that Mirza
		
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			has declared that Allah will never leave me
		
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			on my errors.
		
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			Okay now then Razi gave the impression by
		
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			quoting those three things what he quoted at
		
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			the end that Allah actually corrected him my
		
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			brother Razi the mistake Mirza was making about
		
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			his date of birth right?
		
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			Now you need to give us the reference
		
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			in which revelation Mirza fix his mistake regarding
		
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			his date of birth.
		
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			Please understand the question the mistake Mirza was
		
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			making was in the date of birth please
		
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			only quote one revelation where Allah corrected him
		
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			about his date of birth not his lifespan
		
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			his date of birth.
		
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			And lastly very quickly the last point please
		
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			don't give people's impression that you quoted the
		
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			Quran etc.
		
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			I have given you reply already that you
		
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			cannot compare the Hudaybiyah event with the failed
		
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			prophecy of Mirza.
		
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			Why?
		
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			In the case of Hudaybiyah the Umrah was
		
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			performed number one in the case of Nuh
		
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			A.S. punishment did come in the case
		
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			of Yunus A.S. Allah clearly gave exception
		
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			to these people because they repented after Yunus
		
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			A.S. left them I don't want to
		
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			go into detail it's a waste of time
		
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			in this discussion Allah accepted the repentance of
		
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			people then Allah became the exception for the
		
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			people.
		
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			And my brother Razi please don't compare these
		
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			three prophets with the failed prophecy of Mirza
		
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			because in the case of Mirza prophecy was
		
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			failed lastly lastly you claiming that is a
		
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			research your Khalifa has done now look at
		
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			this one because you are saying that nobody
		
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			is willing to accept the challenge I request
		
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			brother Hashim please bring the research of Khalifa
		
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			Alhamdulillah I have read all of those researches.
		
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			I will prove to you that Mirza's date
		
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			of birth can never ever be 1835.
		
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			I challenge you Okay so now I can
		
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			explain?
		
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			I can respond now Hashim?
		
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			Or is Adnan gonna go again and then
		
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			Muhammad again?
		
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			Hashim I want to speak first and then
		
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			Razi Allah can come Okay so now just
		
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			to summarize again what Razi is doing quite
		
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			systematically is distracting everyone from the main point
		
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			what are we dealing with?
		
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			Mirza made a prophecy that I will die
		
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			between the age of 74 to 86 Mirza
		
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			himself upon oath said that Allah is my
		
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			witness I am 60 years old in 1901
		
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			and he made this statement upon oath in
		
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			a courthouse by saying Allah is my witness
		
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			that makes his age 67 upon his death
		
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			that means Mirza lied now Razi is saying
		
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			that Allah corrected him in 1905 three years
		
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			before his death my question is when Mirza
		
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			from his own revelation said that Allah cannot
		
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			leave me upon era even for a moment
		
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			why was Mirza left upon era for over
		
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			60 years of his life when he doesn't
		
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			even doesn't even know his age that Allah
		
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			had to tell him in 1905 that you
		
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			are basically going to die in three years
		
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			while he himself has been telling all kind
		
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			of confusing things to his people why did
		
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			Allah leave him on era for an issue
		
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			that Mirza himself used as a Nishan this
		
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			is a sign from me how can be
		
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			the sign itself confusing when he is making
		
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			it a sign for himself from Allah so
		
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			my question to Razi is wait wait wait
		
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			Razi head on deal with this problem this
		
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			dilemma you are facing why did Allah leave
		
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			him in era for so long wait wait
		
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			wait why did Allah leave him in era
		
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			for so many years so many decades when
		
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			he himself said Allah cannot leave me on
		
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			era for a moment and then he upon
		
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			oath said he is 60 in 1901 and
		
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			then that goes against his prophecy his own
		
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			prophecy so he is a liar go ahead
		
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			over to you two minutes before I start
		
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			my two minutes I just want to clarify
		
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			something that Adnan bhai said so I didn't
		
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			misinterpret him can I do that Hashim bhai
		
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			just something that I didn't really understand what
		
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			he is saying if it's a digression no
		
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			it's regarding what you said right now if
		
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			you want to clarify something Adnan said yeah
		
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			make it quick Adnan don't be scared come
		
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			on you mentioned something about Hazrat Nuh was
		
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			that his son or no who drowned you
		
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			said are you calling him a son who
		
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			Allah says he is not your family so
		
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			are you saying he wasn't a physical son
		
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			is that what you are saying I am
		
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			saying Allah says no yeah okay tell us
		
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			where you are going no no no why
		
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			are you running because you know you lied
		
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			against Quran brother it's not a battle it's
		
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			not a battle I will respond you said
		
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			he is not his son I will respond
		
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			I will respond I quoted the Quran remember
		
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			yeah and what is the verse did you
		
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			know the verse yes I do what did
		
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			you say Allah says he is not from
		
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			your family he is not from your family
		
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			okay okay beautiful you see answer you asked
		
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			me a question let me answer if I
		
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			said Nuh's son was not his family you
		
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			said he said his family will be saved
		
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			you said this right in your claim this
		
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			is what the Quran says wait wait okay
		
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			you claimed that the Quran says that we
		
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			came back telling you that the Quran says
		
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			that was not his family okay that was
		
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			not his family so you are saying he
		
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			is his son right do you not understand
		
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			what I am saying you know he is
		
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			starving do you not understand what did I
		
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			say was he the physical son or no
		
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			simple question yes he was biological wait wait
		
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			just let him answer just be patient he
		
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			was a biological son of Nuh A.S
		
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			but Allah says he was not his family
		
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			just like Allah says that Ummahatul Mu'mineen are
		
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			the mothers of believers not biological mothers not
		
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			biological mothers they are mothers they are mothers
		
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			by the virtue of being believers does that
		
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			make sense perfect you got your two minutes
		
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			starting can I actually put a timer as
		
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			well please are you going to make sure
		
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			I get my exact time I am sure
		
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			you will do that anyway so now Adnan
		
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			Rashid has indirectly done Takfir on Muhammad Imtiaz
		
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			this is unfortunate I apologize that I had
		
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			to cause this that was Tahadih Hazrat Nuh
		
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			A.S. challenged them that look this is
		
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			my prophecy then his son drowned then Allah
		
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			told him that look he is not of
		
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			your family this was an Ijtihad on Tahadih
		
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			Imtiaz's Usul was that a Nabi cannot make
		
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			Ijtihad on Tahadih Adnan Rashid brother maybe after
		
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			this show he can recite the Kalm again
		
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			you misquoted the oath point Hazrat Ahmad A
		
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			.S. there isn't making oath on his age
		
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			that's a court case everything I say regarding
		
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			the court case is true his age he
		
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			has always explained that it's an estimate this
		
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			is why he himself in his own writings
		
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			has explained that Allah has told me why
		
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			are you cutting me off Nuh 70 Ibrahim
		
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			5 number 3 you had to cut me
		
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			off but anyhow Hazrat Ahmad A.S. did
		
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			not challenge anyone on this in the sense
		
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			you are saying that Allah had to correct
		
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			him you misquoted the quote from the Arabic
		
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			book I challenge you to read it right
		
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			now it's regarding listen listen you have to
		
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			wait till I bring it out and you
		
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			can't speak while I'm finding it I have
		
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			it here in my images somewhere for sure
		
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			it's ok still got time let me finish
		
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			it quick do I cut you guys off
		
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			I mute myself now just out of respect
		
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			so please let me finish you lied that
		
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			that means Hazrat Ahmad A.S. cannot be
		
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			left on any error when on the same
		
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			page he says I can have Sahoo and
		
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			Nisyan errors and in his own books he
		
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			says that regarding my age I do not
		
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			know it's always estimation and he gives different
		
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			terms your spiritual father said the prophecy was
		
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			fulfilled according to your own scholars regarding and
		
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			Sanaullah says that the prophecy regarding his age
		
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			has been fulfilled read it for the audience
		
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			regarding you still didn't answer why you lied
		
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			about that Hazrat Ahmad A.S. said come
		
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			let me speak on my prophecies then prove
		
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			one is false time is up ok Imtiaz
		
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			bhai go ahead ok Hazrat Ahmad A.S.
		
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			did get corrected by Allah that was the
		
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			last point I explained the 3 cups of
		
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			water which you both keep repeating that why
		
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			wasn't he corrected Allah told him 3 years
		
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			left in your life in 1905 he passed
		
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			away in 1908 he passed away at the
		
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			age of 76 you made this point several
		
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			times be patient go on Imtiaz bhai let's
		
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			deal with the last point because people have
		
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			this in their mind look there are 3
		
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			points in order to understand this prophecy 1.
		
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			date of birth 2.
		
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			date of death 3.
		
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			lifespan these are 3 points which need to
		
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			be understood properly then you can understand this
		
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			prophecy my brother Radhi Mirza sahib was making
		
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			mistake in the first point regarding his date
		
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			of birth we are not discussing his lifespan
		
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			at this moment the verse you quoted from
		
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			the Hazain that is dealing with the lifespan
		
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			how much lifespan is left that's not subjective
		
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			the mistake Mirza was making repeatedly as you
		
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			accepted that he was doing an estimation or
		
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			whatever the mistake was not in the lifespan
		
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			the mistake was in the date of birth
		
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			my brother please do not waste peoples time
		
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			my challenge to you is bring on the
		
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			screen one revelation in which Mirza was corrected
		
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			on the mistake which was date of birth
		
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			that's one point second I want to add
		
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			that it's not only that when Mirza said
		
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			on oath that by Allah Allah is my
		
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			witness that I am speaking the truth in
		
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			other words Mirza is lying on oath because
		
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			Razi is saying Mirza had no clarity on
		
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			his age Imtiaz bhai are you listening Razi
		
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			is saying Mirza had no clarity on his
		
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			age and he knows he has no clarity
		
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			on his age and knowing well that he
		
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			has no clarity on his age he is
		
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			saying on oath Allah is my witness that
		
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			I am speaking the truth today I am
		
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			60 years old only I am only 60
		
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			years of age that means Mirza knowing well
		
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			that he doesn't know his age lying is
		
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			lying on oath so that alone makes him
		
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			a liar according to Razi so Razi just
		
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			made Takfir on his prophet Razi just made
		
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			Takfir on his prophet just as he is
		
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			making Takfir on us directly or indirectly and
		
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			saying that I think Ibn Taymiyyah is in
		
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			* fire subhanallah mashallah tabarakallah please over to
		
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			you very quickly so brother Razi obviously in
		
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			our discussion with you we have discussed many
		
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			points and people are listening we don't want
		
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			to repeat things now I am just going
		
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			to stick with the point I am not
		
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			going to discuss I have all the things
		
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			you said but I don't want to discuss
		
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			them to save people lets discuss just one
		
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			thing and that thing is Mirza was making
		
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			mistake in telling his date of birth and
		
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			your claim is Allah corrected him on this
		
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			mistake please I can speak for 10 minutes
		
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			but I don't want to lets stick with
		
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			this one point please your answer so if
		
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			you listen carefully Hazrat Ahmed Al-Asim explained
		
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			that he was born on a Friday February
		
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			the 14th and in the month of Falgun
		
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			according to Zikr-e-Habib if you look
		
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			at these dates you only find 1832 or
		
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			1835 so he was corrected.
		
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			Number 2, then in Haqiqat-ul-Wahi according
		
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			to Haqiqat-ul-Wahi he explains his age
		
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			and he doesn't say what you guys are
		
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			saying according to Haqiqat-ul-Wahi the prophecy
		
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			was fulfilled as well.
		
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			Then your own scholars Sana'ul and Batalbi
		
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			accept the prophecy was fulfilled as well.
		
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			I mentioned the 3 drops of water as
		
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			a final point after I already explained that
		
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			he was corrected to knowing the Friday he
		
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			was born on and the month of Falgun.
		
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			Those living with him knew the prophecy was
		
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			fulfilled yet today 100 years later you want
		
00:52:12 --> 00:52:14
			to raise allegations and these are the same
		
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			types of allegations raised by all raised against
		
00:52:17 --> 00:52:18
			all prophets of Allah.
		
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			I did not do takfir of anyone I'm
		
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			just showing that the brother why are you
		
00:52:23 --> 00:52:28
			stopping me let me finish point by point
		
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			I should get another 2 minutes now no
		
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			no you shouldn't.
		
00:52:31 --> 00:52:33
			Imtiaz bhai it's his point make a note
		
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			what you want to say and then come
		
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			back inshallah.
		
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			Go on.
		
00:52:35 --> 00:52:38
			Once again Adnan Rashid lied like he lied
		
00:52:38 --> 00:52:40
			against Tawfiq Gholibia as well.
		
00:52:40 --> 00:52:41
			I explained that in this court case the
		
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			oath was only regarding what he is saying
		
00:52:44 --> 00:52:47
			regarding the core case itself.
		
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			Regarding his age he explains that only Allah
		
00:52:50 --> 00:52:51
			knows my true age.
		
00:52:51 --> 00:52:53
			So why are you taking one writing from
		
00:52:53 --> 00:52:55
			one book one from the other and doing
		
00:52:55 --> 00:52:55
			this.
		
00:52:55 --> 00:52:57
			I explained before that Adnan Rashid is like
		
00:52:57 --> 00:52:59
			the Christians and Jews who do the same
		
00:52:59 --> 00:53:01
			thing with Sahih Muslim where it says Nabi
		
00:53:01 --> 00:53:03
			s.a.w. said push the Jews to
		
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			the nearest part of the earth.
		
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			They take this they say look Nabi s
		
00:53:06 --> 00:53:09
			.a.w. mocked us he said let me
		
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			finish brother why are you cutting me off.
		
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			He said spread violence your ulama agree that
		
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			this is out of context.
		
00:53:14 --> 00:53:16
			In the same way you take these writings
		
00:53:16 --> 00:53:16
			out of context.
		
00:53:17 --> 00:53:18
			You took the oath out of context and
		
00:53:18 --> 00:53:21
			you lied against Tawfiq Gholibia because Batalvi was
		
00:53:21 --> 00:53:21
			shivering.
		
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			He couldn't dare raise an allegation on the
		
00:53:24 --> 00:53:26
			prophecies that's why he didn't show up where
		
00:53:26 --> 00:53:27
			was he.
		
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			You think you'll wake up 100 years later
		
00:53:29 --> 00:53:31
			and try to prove the prophecies wrong that
		
00:53:31 --> 00:53:32
			he couldn't disagree with.
		
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			First of all first of all he keeps
		
00:53:34 --> 00:53:41
			saying Batalvi and Amritsari okay okay he keeps
		
00:53:41 --> 00:53:44
			calling me calling them my spiritual fathers.
		
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			I don't know why he does that.
		
00:53:45 --> 00:53:49
			Okay so the fact that you have to
		
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			rely on two individuals who buried Mirza while
		
00:53:52 --> 00:53:56
			he was alive both of them Amritsari and
		
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			Batalvi these two individuals.
		
00:53:58 --> 00:54:02
			What are you talking about wait wait wait
		
00:54:02 --> 00:54:05
			they both buried Mirza while he was alive
		
00:54:05 --> 00:54:09
			Batalvi was the same man who gathered the
		
00:54:09 --> 00:54:11
			ulama to give a fatwa of kufr against
		
00:54:11 --> 00:54:13
			Mirza Ghulam Ahmad Qadiani.
		
00:54:13 --> 00:54:15
			He declared him to be a kafir by
		
00:54:15 --> 00:54:20
			the collection of the ulama he could get
		
00:54:20 --> 00:54:20
			the support of.
		
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			Amritsari is the same man who challenged Mirza
		
00:54:24 --> 00:54:26
			and that was the last challenge of Mirza's
		
00:54:26 --> 00:54:26
			life.
		
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			Okay so don't mention these people who dealt
		
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			with Mirza while he was alive.
		
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			Okay Mirza was shown to be a liar
		
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			by both of these people by the way.
		
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			Okay stop saying Batalvi Amritsari Batalvi Amritsari.
		
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			These two people the mission of their lives
		
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			was to show the world that Mirza is
		
00:54:43 --> 00:54:44
			dajjal qaddaab and a liar.
		
00:54:45 --> 00:54:47
			Okay now coming back to the same issue.
		
00:54:47 --> 00:54:52
			Razi has already admitted that Mirza was a
		
00:54:52 --> 00:54:55
			liar because Razi is not addressing the point.
		
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			Did Mirza say upon oath that Allah is
		
00:55:02 --> 00:55:09
			my witness in 1901 I am 60 years
		
00:55:09 --> 00:55:13
			of age and I am speaking the truth.
		
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			I'm going to read the quote again I'm
		
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			going to read the quote again so that
		
00:55:16 --> 00:55:16
			Razi doesn't make any mistake.
		
00:55:16 --> 00:55:18
			Can you please provide the reference for this
		
00:55:18 --> 00:55:18
			one.
		
00:55:19 --> 00:55:20
			Okay reference I've already given.
		
00:55:21 --> 00:55:21
			He knows the reference.
		
00:55:22 --> 00:55:22
			Okay he knows.
		
00:55:23 --> 00:55:23
			He's not denying it.
		
00:55:24 --> 00:55:25
			He's not challenging the reference.
		
00:55:25 --> 00:55:29
			The words of Mirza Ghulam Amit Qadiani on
		
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			May 16 1901 in the district court of
		
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			Gurdaspur and I quote God be my witness
		
00:55:41 --> 00:55:44
			that I speak the truth I am only
		
00:55:44 --> 00:55:45
			60 years of age.
		
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			Was Mirza lying or was he speaking the
		
00:55:49 --> 00:55:49
			truth.
		
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			Razi quick answer not two minutes.
		
00:55:52 --> 00:55:53
			Yes or no.
		
00:55:53 --> 00:55:56
			I need to respond to what Razi said
		
00:55:56 --> 00:55:56
			brother.
		
00:55:58 --> 00:56:01
			Wait wait wait wait wait wait no wait.
		
00:56:02 --> 00:56:04
			Razi was Mirza lying or was he speaking
		
00:56:04 --> 00:56:05
			the truth.
		
00:56:05 --> 00:56:08
			Hazrat Ahmed Rasam never lied ever and that
		
00:56:08 --> 00:56:10
			oath has nothing to do with it.
		
00:56:10 --> 00:56:10
			You're lying.
		
00:56:10 --> 00:56:11
			You're the one lying.
		
00:56:11 --> 00:56:14
			Okay guys guys wait I think Imtiaz Bey
		
00:56:14 --> 00:56:15
			wanted to make a point Atnam.
		
00:56:15 --> 00:56:16
			Wait wait guys.
		
00:56:17 --> 00:56:19
			Before Raziullah says let Imtiaz Bey make the
		
00:56:19 --> 00:56:19
			point.
		
00:56:19 --> 00:56:20
			Go ahead.
		
00:56:20 --> 00:56:24
			Yes sabar sabar Razi has now said that
		
00:56:25 --> 00:56:31
			Hazrat Ahmed Okay according to him never lied.
		
00:56:31 --> 00:56:33
			Razi said that right.
		
00:56:33 --> 00:56:36
			So that means in this oath when Mirza
		
00:56:36 --> 00:56:39
			said God be my witness that I speak
		
00:56:39 --> 00:56:40
			the truth.
		
00:56:40 --> 00:56:43
			I am only 60 years of age in
		
00:56:43 --> 00:56:44
			1901.
		
00:56:45 --> 00:56:49
			On the 16th of May 1901 upon oath
		
00:56:49 --> 00:56:53
			Mirza is making this statement in the district
		
00:56:53 --> 00:56:55
			court of Gurdakhwar.
		
00:56:55 --> 00:56:58
			And Razi said Mirza is speaking the truth.
		
00:56:59 --> 00:57:01
			That means Mirza is 60 years old in
		
00:57:01 --> 00:57:05
			1901 and Mirza died on the 2nd of
		
00:57:05 --> 00:57:10
			May 1908 exactly almost exactly 7 years later.
		
00:57:10 --> 00:57:13
			That makes him 67 years old.
		
00:57:14 --> 00:57:18
			That means Mirza Ghulam Ghulam Ahmed Qadiani was
		
00:57:18 --> 00:57:21
			a liar because in his prophecy which he
		
00:57:21 --> 00:57:24
			himself called a prophecy and I will give
		
00:57:24 --> 00:57:28
			the reference again in this prophecy Mirza stated
		
00:57:28 --> 00:57:35
			that I will live I will live between
		
00:57:35 --> 00:57:41
			the age of 74 and 86.
		
00:57:42 --> 00:57:44
			That is the reference the words of Mirza.
		
00:57:44 --> 00:57:46
			I'm going to quote I quote again the
		
00:57:46 --> 00:57:50
			words of the prophecy promise that my age
		
00:57:50 --> 00:57:54
			will be between 74 years and 86.
		
00:57:54 --> 00:57:59
			The reference is Burhanul Ahmadiyya volume 5 page
		
00:57:59 --> 00:58:01
			97.
		
00:58:03 --> 00:58:06
			So the prophecy says which Mirza himself made
		
00:58:06 --> 00:58:08
			the prophecy and he uses the word prophecy
		
00:58:08 --> 00:58:11
			in this very court that this is a
		
00:58:11 --> 00:58:13
			prophecy that I will live between 74 and
		
00:58:13 --> 00:58:14
			86.
		
00:58:14 --> 00:58:18
			In 1901 he speaks the truth because he
		
00:58:18 --> 00:58:22
			is Hazrat Masih Maud according to Razi he
		
00:58:22 --> 00:58:25
			cannot lie he says I am 60 years
		
00:58:25 --> 00:58:27
			old and he died 7 years later.
		
00:58:28 --> 00:58:34
			That's 67 so he is 7 years short
		
00:58:34 --> 00:58:37
			from the very first point of the prophecy
		
00:58:37 --> 00:58:40
			when he said he will die between 74
		
00:58:40 --> 00:58:45
			and 86 anyone listening anyone listening right now
		
00:58:45 --> 00:58:49
			live or otherwise with 2 brain cells let's
		
00:58:49 --> 00:58:52
			make it 4 here 2 and 2 4
		
00:58:52 --> 00:58:56
			brain cells anyone listening to us tonight with
		
00:58:56 --> 00:59:00
			4 brain cells knows that by the calculations
		
00:59:00 --> 00:59:04
			I presented Mirza Ghulam Ahmad Qadiani was a
		
00:59:04 --> 00:59:08
			liar and he was a liar because one
		
00:59:08 --> 00:59:10
			of his prophecies because one of his prophecies
		
00:59:10 --> 00:59:13
			is shown to be a lie one of
		
00:59:13 --> 00:59:15
			his prophecies is shown to be a lie
		
00:59:15 --> 00:59:24
			can I answer first because wait wait wait
		
00:59:24 --> 00:59:30
			guys one of his prophecies has shown to
		
00:59:30 --> 00:59:34
			be conclusively a lie that means Mirza by
		
00:59:34 --> 00:59:36
			his own standard is a liar because he
		
00:59:36 --> 00:59:38
			said if one of my prophecies out of
		
00:59:38 --> 00:59:41
			100 is shown to be a lie then
		
00:59:41 --> 00:59:46
			I'm a liar game over I rest my
		
00:59:46 --> 00:59:49
			case now Razi's games are not going to
		
00:59:49 --> 00:59:52
			save Mirza let me let me okay so
		
00:59:52 --> 00:59:56
			first you fear Allah you claim can you
		
00:59:56 --> 00:59:57
			read the Urdu of the oath page you
		
00:59:57 --> 00:59:59
			keep saying can you read the Urdu quickly
		
00:59:59 --> 01:00:03
			let me read it for you uses the
		
01:00:03 --> 01:00:10
			word which book which book which one okay
		
01:00:10 --> 01:00:14
			which page what is the reference the reference
		
01:00:14 --> 01:00:24
			reference of what no which reference
		
01:00:24 --> 01:00:32
			which reference which maybe maybe let me let
		
01:00:32 --> 01:00:35
			me finish on your turn you can answer
		
01:00:35 --> 01:00:40
			Nambay I have the scan of where the
		
01:00:40 --> 01:00:42
			oath is I have the scan of where
		
01:00:42 --> 01:00:44
			the oath is okay I can show you
		
01:00:44 --> 01:00:45
			should I put it on the screen can
		
01:00:45 --> 01:00:49
			I put it on the screen yeah you
		
01:00:49 --> 01:00:52
			can put it on the screen what is
		
01:00:52 --> 01:00:56
			the date one second one second it says12
		
01:00:56 --> 01:01:00
			May 1901 No, the one I have is
		
01:01:00 --> 01:01:00
			16th of May 1901.
		
01:01:00 --> 01:01:01
			Sorry, it's 16 May.
		
01:01:02 --> 01:01:03
			I can't read Urdu numbers.
		
01:01:03 --> 01:01:04
			I apologize.
		
01:01:04 --> 01:01:05
			16 May 1901.
		
01:01:06 --> 01:01:08
			Okay, put it up.
		
01:01:10 --> 01:01:12
			Okay, so how can I put it up?
		
01:01:12 --> 01:01:13
			Screen share?
		
01:01:13 --> 01:01:16
			No, you go to, at the bottom where
		
01:01:16 --> 01:01:16
			it says present.
		
01:01:17 --> 01:01:18
			Do you see it on your screen?
		
01:01:18 --> 01:01:20
			Present, one second, one second.
		
01:01:20 --> 01:01:23
			Screen share, present, yeah, and then I click
		
01:01:23 --> 01:01:24
			video slides?
		
01:01:24 --> 01:01:25
			Present.
		
01:01:25 --> 01:01:28
			No, no, is it on a, where exactly
		
01:01:28 --> 01:01:28
			is it?
		
01:01:28 --> 01:01:30
			Is it on your hard drive or is
		
01:01:30 --> 01:01:30
			it on a website?
		
01:01:30 --> 01:01:32
			Can I tweet it to Adnan Rashid quickly
		
01:01:32 --> 01:01:33
			so he has it?
		
01:01:33 --> 01:01:34
			No, no.
		
01:01:34 --> 01:01:36
			Okay, so can I just share screen?
		
01:01:36 --> 01:01:38
			Yes, share screen, that's what it is.
		
01:01:38 --> 01:01:40
			Okay, one sec, let me just open the
		
01:01:40 --> 01:01:41
			image.
		
01:01:41 --> 01:01:42
			Right here, I got it.
		
01:01:42 --> 01:01:43
			Okay, screen share.
		
01:01:44 --> 01:01:45
			Okay, okay.
		
01:01:45 --> 01:01:48
			Wait a second, my screen just went small.
		
01:01:48 --> 01:01:50
			One second, just once.
		
01:01:51 --> 01:01:51
			Two seconds.
		
01:01:51 --> 01:01:53
			I have a double screen, so I apologize.
		
01:01:54 --> 01:01:55
			Share screen.
		
01:01:56 --> 01:01:56
			Take your time.
		
01:01:57 --> 01:01:58
			Share screen window, okay.
		
01:01:59 --> 01:02:00
			Read it out loud, please.
		
01:02:01 --> 01:02:02
			I've shared the screen.
		
01:02:02 --> 01:02:03
			Of course, we can't see it still.
		
01:02:03 --> 01:02:04
			It should be there.
		
01:02:04 --> 01:02:06
			It says you're in the show and my
		
01:02:06 --> 01:02:07
			screen is showing in the bottom, but you
		
01:02:07 --> 01:02:08
			just have to accept it.
		
01:02:09 --> 01:02:10
			No, no, we can't see it.
		
01:02:10 --> 01:02:11
			None of us can see it.
		
01:02:12 --> 01:02:12
			Really?
		
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			Yeah.
		
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			Okay, let me stop sharing and share again.
		
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			Present, share screen, share screen window.
		
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			Can you check now?
		
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			It should be next to my name.
		
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			No, we can't see your screen at all.
		
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			Brother, I promise you it's showing here.
		
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			Okay, let me put it on my phone
		
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			and put my camera on.
		
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			How about that?
		
01:02:29 --> 01:02:30
			Or you can send it to Ahmed and
		
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			maybe he can share it.
		
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			No, no, don't worry.
		
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			It's fine.
		
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			I'm opening it on my phone and I'll
		
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			open my camera.
		
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			And then Adnan has to read it out
		
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			loud for everyone, okay?
		
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			Yeah, of course.
		
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			That's the deal.
		
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			Okay.
		
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			Do you guys see it?
		
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			Which part?
		
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			The highlighted part?
		
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			We can't see the whole thing.
		
01:02:49 --> 01:02:49
			Okay.
		
01:02:49 --> 01:02:50
			We cannot see the whole thing.
		
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			Let me zoom out.
		
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			It's the same one you have.
		
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			You can confirm right here.
		
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			We can't read it.
		
01:02:56 --> 01:02:56
			No, we can't see it.
		
01:02:56 --> 01:02:57
			Bring it closer.
		
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			We can't read it.
		
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			Okay, that's it.
		
01:02:59 --> 01:02:59
			No, look.
		
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			Now you can, Adnan, read it out loud.
		
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			We cannot read it, Razi.
		
01:03:04 --> 01:03:06
			Razi, put it up on the screen and
		
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			we will read it for you.
		
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			Okay, do it again.
		
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			I'll share the screen one more time, okay?
		
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			Stop sharing.
		
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			Present.
		
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			Share screen.
		
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			Don't show these tips again.
		
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			Window.
		
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			There.
		
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			Dawab bhai, Hashim bhai, if your studio is
		
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			full, maybe that's where they're not showing it.
		
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			Okay, I can't see it now.
		
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			There, there, there.
		
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			Okay, okay.
		
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			Zoom in, zoom in.
		
01:03:28 --> 01:03:29
			You need to zoom from your side.
		
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			Okay.
		
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			Okay.
		
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			Read this, Adnan.
		
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			Keep zooming.
		
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			Okay.
		
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			16th of May, 1901.
		
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			Go back a little bit.
		
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			Yeah.
		
01:03:43 --> 01:03:43
			Yeah.
		
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			Make it a bit smaller.
		
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			That's it.
		
01:03:44 --> 01:03:45
			That's it.
		
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			Okay.
		
01:04:02 --> 01:04:03
			Zoom in.
		
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			Sorry.
		
01:04:04 --> 01:04:04
			Zoom in.
		
01:04:04 --> 01:04:05
			Zoom in?
		
01:04:05 --> 01:04:05
			Zoom in or zoom out?
		
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			Slightly zoom in.
		
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			That's it.
		
01:04:08 --> 01:04:08
			That's it.
		
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			Here, let me translate exactly word-by-word.
		
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			It says…
		
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			Why did you lie?
		
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			First tell them why you lied.
		
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			Tell them why you lied.
		
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			No, no, I'm not lying.
		
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			Can you put it back on?
		
01:04:46 --> 01:04:47
			Can you put it back on?
		
01:04:47 --> 01:04:48
			He's saying he's only 60.
		
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			Can you put it back on?
		
01:04:51 --> 01:04:51
			Can you put it back on?
		
01:04:51 --> 01:04:52
			Is it there?
		
01:04:52 --> 01:04:53
			Is it there?
		
01:04:54 --> 01:04:54
			Yeah.
		
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			Can you put it back on?
		
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			Okay.
		
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			Okay.
		
01:04:59 --> 01:05:00
			Right.
		
01:05:01 --> 01:05:01
			Now…
		
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			God is present.
		
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			Okay.
		
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			In other words, God is my witness.
		
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			No.
		
01:05:08 --> 01:05:09
			It doesn't say that.
		
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			Do not lie.
		
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			Read it.
		
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			That's what it means.
		
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			Okay.
		
01:05:11 --> 01:05:11
			Come on.
		
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			Okay.
		
01:05:12 --> 01:05:12
			Okay.
		
01:05:13 --> 01:05:14
			That's what he said.
		
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			I will do it word-by-word so
		
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			that Razi is happy.
		
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			Allah is present.
		
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			I will speak the truth.
		
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			My age is about 60 years.
		
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			About 60 years.
		
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			Yes.
		
01:05:30 --> 01:05:32
			Now, what do you say?
		
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			JazakAllah.
		
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			You were emphasizing and lying that he's only…
		
01:05:37 --> 01:05:37
			No, no, no.
		
01:05:37 --> 01:05:38
			Let me finish now.
		
01:05:38 --> 01:05:39
			I let you speak, right?
		
01:05:39 --> 01:05:39
			No.
		
01:05:40 --> 01:05:41
			You presented your case.
		
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			This is what the Jews did with the
		
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			Torah.
		
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			They put their hand on the Torah so
		
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			they don't get stoned.
		
01:05:47 --> 01:05:49
			So, let's see how you have become like
		
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			the Jews.
		
01:05:49 --> 01:05:51
			So, can I quickly…
		
01:05:51 --> 01:05:52
			Can I answer?
		
01:05:53 --> 01:05:54
			Yeah, you can answer, but wait.
		
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			Okay.
		
01:05:55 --> 01:05:55
			You can answer.
		
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			What we have just seen, Razi has confirmed
		
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			that we are very, very diligent and accurate
		
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			about our sources, okay?
		
01:06:05 --> 01:06:06
			No, no.
		
01:06:06 --> 01:06:09
			So, the date I gave is absolutely correct,
		
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			16th of May, 1901.
		
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			The quote I was reading goes as follows,
		
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			God be my witness.
		
01:06:17 --> 01:06:19
			There it says God is present.
		
01:06:19 --> 01:06:21
			Now, Razi insists that that's not witness.
		
01:06:21 --> 01:06:22
			God is just present.
		
01:06:22 --> 01:06:24
			He's just present for no reason.
		
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			That I speak the truth.
		
01:06:26 --> 01:06:28
			I will speak the truth in the Urdu
		
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			language, that I speak the truth.
		
01:06:30 --> 01:06:33
			I am only 60 years of age, right?
		
01:06:33 --> 01:06:35
			Here, he is disputing…
		
01:06:36 --> 01:06:38
			Razi is disputing the word only.
		
01:06:38 --> 01:06:42
			He's saying instead of only, it says karib.
		
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			In the Urdu word, in the Urdu language,
		
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			it says karib.
		
01:06:46 --> 01:06:47
			Karib means close.
		
01:06:48 --> 01:06:49
			Karib means close.
		
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			So, when he says I'm close to 60
		
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			years of age, okay, we have other quotes
		
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			from Mirza from same time, for example.
		
01:07:02 --> 01:07:04
			I'm going to answer to this so that
		
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			Razi can actually tell us what's going on.
		
01:07:09 --> 01:07:13
			In 1896, Mirza says he's 64 years of
		
01:07:13 --> 01:07:14
			age.
		
01:07:14 --> 01:07:15
			Yes?
		
01:07:16 --> 01:07:17
			Yes or no?
		
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			Finish, then I'll answer.
		
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			Okay.
		
01:07:21 --> 01:07:23
			In 1896, Mirza says he's 64.
		
01:07:25 --> 01:07:26
			What is our case?
		
01:07:26 --> 01:07:30
			Our case is that Mirza is lying repeatedly
		
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			about his age.
		
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			He is in error.
		
01:07:33 --> 01:07:36
			And he has said upon oath that I
		
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			am about…
		
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			Let's say about 60.
		
01:07:37 --> 01:07:38
			No problem.
		
01:07:38 --> 01:07:39
			It's a minor point to us.
		
01:07:40 --> 01:07:42
			It's a minute point to us.
		
01:07:42 --> 01:07:43
			It makes no difference to our case.
		
01:07:43 --> 01:07:45
			Our case still stands.
		
01:07:45 --> 01:07:46
			What is our case?
		
01:07:46 --> 01:07:48
			Our case is Mirza is a liar.
		
01:07:49 --> 01:07:52
			Wherever you go, whichever quote you go to,
		
01:07:52 --> 01:07:55
			Mirza is shown to be a liar because
		
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			Mirza repeatedly said that his age was different
		
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			at different times.
		
01:08:01 --> 01:08:01
			Okay.
		
01:08:01 --> 01:08:05
			In 1896, Mirza says I'm 64.
		
01:08:05 --> 01:08:08
			In 1903, he says I'm 70.
		
01:08:09 --> 01:08:09
			Okay.
		
01:08:09 --> 01:08:13
			So now you tell me in 1901, Mirza
		
01:08:13 --> 01:08:15
			is saying I am about 60.
		
01:08:15 --> 01:08:18
			In 1903, he's saying I'm 70.
		
01:08:18 --> 01:08:19
			Two years later.
		
01:08:20 --> 01:08:21
			Okay.
		
01:08:21 --> 01:08:24
			Two years later, he's saying I'm 70.
		
01:08:25 --> 01:08:30
			So if Mirza was 68 in 1903, if
		
01:08:30 --> 01:08:34
			Mirza by his own confession was 68 in
		
01:08:34 --> 01:08:36
			1903 as he claimed in 1903 that he
		
01:08:36 --> 01:08:41
			was 70, was he about 70 years of
		
01:08:41 --> 01:08:43
			age or about 60 years of age?
		
01:08:44 --> 01:08:47
			Any sane person will tell you that he's
		
01:08:47 --> 01:08:49
			about 70, not about 60.
		
01:08:49 --> 01:08:51
			He's not close to 60, he's close to
		
01:08:51 --> 01:08:52
			70.
		
01:08:52 --> 01:08:54
			So even that shows him to be a
		
01:08:54 --> 01:08:54
			liar.
		
01:08:55 --> 01:08:58
			Then Mirza in 1904, the very next year,
		
01:08:59 --> 01:09:00
			says I am 65.
		
01:09:02 --> 01:09:02
			Okay.
		
01:09:03 --> 01:09:07
			Then in 1905, Mirza says again, I am
		
01:09:07 --> 01:09:08
			70.
		
01:09:09 --> 01:09:12
			Then in 1907, Mirza says I am 68.
		
01:09:14 --> 01:09:15
			So which one is it?
		
01:09:16 --> 01:09:18
			All of these were said by Mirza.
		
01:09:19 --> 01:09:20
			Allah says in the Quran.
		
01:09:29 --> 01:09:32
			Now let me tell you something about Mirza
		
01:09:32 --> 01:09:33
			himself, what Mirza said.
		
01:09:34 --> 01:09:34
			Okay.
		
01:09:35 --> 01:09:41
			Mirza said about his own words that an
		
01:09:41 --> 01:09:46
			individual who is wise and pure in heart.
		
01:09:46 --> 01:09:49
			I'm quoting Mirza here in this vein.
		
01:09:49 --> 01:09:49
			Okay.
		
01:09:50 --> 01:09:53
			An individual who is wise and pure in
		
01:09:53 --> 01:09:57
			heart does not create contradictions in his words.
		
01:09:57 --> 01:09:59
			Are you listening guys, everyone?
		
01:10:00 --> 01:10:01
			Is everyone with me?
		
01:10:02 --> 01:10:05
			Mirza said, and where did he say this?
		
01:10:06 --> 01:10:11
			Satbachan, his book Satbachan published in 1896, page
		
01:10:11 --> 01:10:12
			29.
		
01:10:13 --> 01:10:17
			Mirza said in his own words, an individual
		
01:10:17 --> 01:10:20
			who is wise and pure in heart does
		
01:10:20 --> 01:10:23
			not create contradictions in his words.
		
01:10:23 --> 01:10:27
			Of course, if he is mentally deranged and
		
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			lacks sound judgment, or if as a matter
		
01:10:31 --> 01:10:34
			of flattery, he agrees with somebody else, there
		
01:10:34 --> 01:10:37
			is no doubt that there will be contradictions
		
01:10:37 --> 01:10:38
			in his words.
		
01:10:40 --> 01:10:41
			Can I answer now?
		
01:10:42 --> 01:10:43
			Yeah, wait, wait.
		
01:10:43 --> 01:10:43
			You can answer.
		
01:10:43 --> 01:10:44
			Let me finish.
		
01:10:44 --> 01:10:48
			Mirza Ghulam Ahmad Qadiani here is saying that
		
01:10:48 --> 01:10:52
			a person who is wise and pure in
		
01:10:52 --> 01:10:56
			heart will not contradict himself, who is wise
		
01:10:56 --> 01:10:59
			and pure in heart will not contradict himself
		
01:11:00 --> 01:11:03
			unless he is mentally deranged and lacks sound
		
01:11:03 --> 01:11:07
			judgment, in which case he cannot be appropriate.
		
01:11:07 --> 01:11:08
			This is my caveat.
		
01:11:09 --> 01:11:12
			Clearly about his age, Mirza was not only
		
01:11:12 --> 01:11:13
			contradicting himself.
		
01:11:13 --> 01:11:15
			He was contradicting himself severely.
		
01:11:16 --> 01:11:19
			To give you the list again, 1896, he
		
01:11:19 --> 01:11:20
			said, I'm 64.
		
01:11:20 --> 01:11:22
			1903, he said, I'm 70.
		
01:11:22 --> 01:11:24
			1904, I'm 65.
		
01:11:24 --> 01:11:25
			1905, I'm 70.
		
01:11:26 --> 01:11:27
			1907, I'm 68.
		
01:11:28 --> 01:11:33
			This is a deranged, mentally ill, immoral, immoral
		
01:11:33 --> 01:11:34
			person.
		
01:11:37 --> 01:11:39
			Now you're mocking, now you're abusing our founder.
		
01:11:39 --> 01:11:41
			This was the Hashem, but where's the respect
		
01:11:41 --> 01:11:42
			gone now?
		
01:11:43 --> 01:11:44
			That's disrespectful.
		
01:11:44 --> 01:11:46
			He got caught to be a liar and
		
01:11:46 --> 01:11:48
			now he has to mock my founder.
		
01:11:48 --> 01:11:50
			Allah says don't mock others.
		
01:11:50 --> 01:11:50
			Ya Allah.
		
01:11:50 --> 01:11:51
			Razi, Razi, Razi.
		
01:11:51 --> 01:11:52
			Yes, thank you.
		
01:11:52 --> 01:11:54
			I am making my case, Razi.
		
01:11:54 --> 01:11:55
			Can you not see?
		
01:11:55 --> 01:11:58
			I am actually dismantling everything you're trying to
		
01:11:58 --> 01:11:58
			bring.
		
01:11:59 --> 01:12:01
			Everything you throw at us, we have a
		
01:12:01 --> 01:12:04
			quote from Mirza to destroy his own credibility.
		
01:12:05 --> 01:12:07
			Everything you will bring in defense of Mirza,
		
01:12:07 --> 01:12:09
			you will open your mouth.
		
01:12:09 --> 01:12:12
			There will be something with us to completely
		
01:12:12 --> 01:12:14
			dismantle your defense of Mirza.
		
01:12:15 --> 01:12:18
			Please fear Allah and accept that Mirza was
		
01:12:18 --> 01:12:21
			a liar because repeatedly we're bringing things to
		
01:12:21 --> 01:12:23
			you from his own writings that undo him,
		
01:12:24 --> 01:12:25
			that prove him to be a liar.
		
01:12:26 --> 01:12:27
			So if Mirza himself is saying.
		
01:12:27 --> 01:12:29
			Now can I answer Hashem Bhai?
		
01:12:29 --> 01:12:31
			It's been a long speech you've given.
		
01:12:31 --> 01:12:32
			What are you answering?
		
01:12:32 --> 01:12:33
			Because you expect me to answer in two
		
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			minutes.
		
01:12:34 --> 01:12:34
			It's unjust.
		
01:12:34 --> 01:12:36
			Razi, Razi, Razi.
		
01:12:36 --> 01:12:38
			I'm going to answer and I'll share my.
		
01:12:38 --> 01:12:38
			I'm finishing.
		
01:12:39 --> 01:12:40
			Let Adnan finish.
		
01:12:40 --> 01:12:42
			And then I want Imtiaz Bhai to come
		
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			in because he has been waiting a long
		
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			time longer than you.
		
01:12:45 --> 01:12:47
			He gave a full speech, Hashem Bhai.
		
01:12:47 --> 01:12:49
			Yeah, but make a note of it, I
		
01:12:49 --> 01:12:50
			mean, come on.
		
01:12:52 --> 01:12:55
			Razi, did Mirza say that a person who
		
01:12:55 --> 01:12:58
			is wise and pure of heart cannot contradict
		
01:12:58 --> 01:12:59
			himself?
		
01:13:00 --> 01:13:02
			And if he does, he's mentally deranged.
		
01:13:02 --> 01:13:03
			Okay.
		
01:13:03 --> 01:13:05
			He's mentally deranged and sick.
		
01:13:06 --> 01:13:08
			If Mirza said this, first of all, you
		
01:13:08 --> 01:13:09
			have to confirm.
		
01:13:09 --> 01:13:10
			Did Mirza say that?
		
01:13:10 --> 01:13:12
			If he said it, then he is contradicting
		
01:13:12 --> 01:13:15
			himself, giving different numbers of his age in
		
01:13:15 --> 01:13:16
			different years.
		
01:13:16 --> 01:13:18
			That means he's contradicting himself.
		
01:13:18 --> 01:13:20
			That means he is not only impure of
		
01:13:20 --> 01:13:22
			heart, he's mentally deranged too.
		
01:13:23 --> 01:13:23
			Do you agree?
		
01:13:27 --> 01:13:29
			Let Imtiaz Bhai make a point and then
		
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			you can come in, Razi Allah.
		
01:13:30 --> 01:13:31
			So now.
		
01:13:31 --> 01:13:31
			Come on, Imtiaz Bhai.
		
01:13:31 --> 01:13:32
			No, no.
		
01:13:32 --> 01:13:32
			Okay.
		
01:13:33 --> 01:13:34
			You haven't finished it or you have?
		
01:13:34 --> 01:13:35
			No, no, no.
		
01:13:35 --> 01:13:37
			No, no, but this will go on, Adnan
		
01:13:37 --> 01:13:37
			Bhai.
		
01:13:37 --> 01:13:38
			I think brother Imtiaz has been waiting for
		
01:13:38 --> 01:13:39
			a while.
		
01:13:39 --> 01:13:39
			No, no, no.
		
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			No, Hashem, I request specifically he answers.
		
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			He answers.
		
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			Yeah, but he's made a note.
		
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			He's made notes of the things.
		
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			No, no, no, no.
		
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			Hashem, I'm not going to let him go.
		
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			Okay.
		
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			So after two minutes, Imtiaz Bhai comes in.
		
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			Okay.
		
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			Go on.
		
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			Yes, please.
		
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			Please.
		
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			So, who's speaking now?
		
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			Me or Imtiaz?
		
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			You're speaking.
		
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			You've got two minutes.
		
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			Go ahead.
		
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			Okay.
		
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			So I have two minutes.
		
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			So I want to go a bit back
		
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			as well because Adnan Rashid lied previously as
		
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			well And I can't let him keep lying
		
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			on the stream.
		
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			See you're cutting me off again, brother Hashim.
		
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			Is this just Yeah, Adnan, it's his time.
		
01:14:10 --> 01:14:12
			Let him finish We need to decide what
		
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			he said on RG He's going to play
		
01:14:14 --> 01:14:16
			the same games, Hashim Whole time.
		
01:14:16 --> 01:14:18
			This guy is just deceiving, left braiding You
		
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			expect me to lie, brother Let's all calm
		
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			down Hashim, as a moderator, can I request,
		
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			can you get him to answer my question?
		
01:14:27 --> 01:14:30
			Yeah, so he's got two minutes And if
		
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			he doesn't answer the question, that's his loss,
		
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			isn't it?
		
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			So you heard the question, you made the
		
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			notes, Rasulullah Please answer the question Let me
		
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			just get to my notes file, I can't
		
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			find it Okay, right here, there it is
		
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			Okay, can you share the screen again, brother
		
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			Hashim?
		
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			Yeah, if you're sharing it, I can It
		
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			says sharing Okay Do you see it?
		
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			Yeah, I see it Okay, I gotta zoom
		
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			in, right?
		
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			So as everyone saw, Adnan Rashid lied again
		
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			and was caught Just like his spiritual forefathers,
		
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			Batalvi and Sanaullah Hazrat Ahmad Al-Ahsan says,
		
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			kareeb, near 60 That could be 65, 66,
		
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			63 He does not say, on an oath,
		
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			obviously you're saying something you're certain about He
		
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			uses the word kareeb to show it's an
		
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			estimation As he does in his other books
		
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			In Haqiqatul Wahi, we prove that he passed
		
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			away at 76 Other books show past 74
		
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			So we have hundreds of references Now, Adnan
		
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			Rashid lied to the viewers that Sanaullah buried
		
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			Hazrat Ahmad Al-Ahsan Open challenge, read the
		
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			Mubahala challenge in front of all the viewers
		
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			right now Qiyamah will come, you will fear
		
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			reading it Why?
		
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			Because in the end, Sanaullah gets scared He
		
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			says, you know Mirza said challenge me to
		
01:15:36 --> 01:15:38
			Mubahala But the plague is happening I might
		
01:15:38 --> 01:15:40
			die in there He starts crying that I
		
01:15:40 --> 01:15:43
			cannot accept the Mubahala Your mullahs lied to
		
01:15:43 --> 01:15:45
			you that he accepted the Mubahala Why do
		
01:15:45 --> 01:15:46
			you deceive?
		
01:15:46 --> 01:15:47
			Then you say Batalvi, do you know where
		
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			his grave is today?
		
01:15:48 --> 01:15:51
			His Christians became Christian His children became Christian
		
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			What are you talking about?
		
01:15:53 --> 01:15:55
			You disowned him last stream and said I
		
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			don't care what he says, who is Batalvi?
		
01:15:57 --> 01:15:59
			No one knows where his grave is The
		
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			man has disappeared You're trying to bring him
		
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			back to the world He's already finished So
		
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			now, returning to the other points that Adnan
		
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			Rashid says In Haqiqatul Wahi, does it prove
		
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			he Al-Ahsan was 76 or no?
		
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			Answer in yes or no like you asked
		
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			me You can't answer Exactly, let me finish
		
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			Hashim Bhai Regarding a person who cannot contradict
		
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			100% Christians raise the same allegations They
		
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			say Quran says do not mock their gods
		
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			They said their idols are in the hellfire
		
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			Hazrat Ahmed Al-Ahsan never contradicted on the
		
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			faith These are historical proofs Nabi says you
		
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			people know more about the history So Adnan
		
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			Rashid fear Allah You are only using the
		
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			shoulder of Hazrat Ahmed Al-Ahsan To reject
		
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			the other prophets of Allah You already rejected
		
01:16:42 --> 01:16:44
			Noah Al-Ahsan, Yunus Al-Ahsan And now
		
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			Nabi says you rejected with Sulah Al-Hudaibiyah
		
01:16:46 --> 01:16:49
			You rejected Batalvi Regarding Taimiyah, you did say
		
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			he is in the hellfire Regarding Ibn Taymiyah,
		
01:16:52 --> 01:16:55
			you got exposed on Twitter today Your time
		
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			is up You are not answering anything I
		
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			answered everything he said What didn't I answer?
		
01:17:03 --> 01:17:06
			Adnan will tell you I clarified that he
		
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			was corrected when he mentioned his month of
		
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			Falgun On the 14th Friday of February So
		
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			I answered everything Can you stop it?
		
01:17:14 --> 01:17:20
			In government people Last thing, in government people's
		
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			dates are always Ask him, mute him Ask
		
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			him, mute him Imtiaz bhai, Imtiaz bhai, sorry
		
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			I'm not going to I'm not going to
		
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			let him get off This is a very,
		
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			look If we let him off this Then,
		
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			you know We have to keep it on
		
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			topic My issue now is This guy, he
		
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			the other day In the last stream, he
		
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			made a hadith From the Prophet And he's
		
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			calling me a liar He actually added the
		
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			words Qala Nabi I told you it's based
		
01:17:57 --> 01:17:59
			on Wahi Don't lie, I said based on
		
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			Wahi You're supposed to be quiet Come on
		
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			Rasulullah No, no, Razi has eaten something yesterday
		
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			He has taken off his Ahmadi You know,
		
01:18:09 --> 01:18:14
			polite Gentle, civilized Ahmadi hat He has taken
		
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			it off today And he is now behaving
		
01:18:16 --> 01:18:18
			like a Sunni You know, as they claim
		
01:18:18 --> 01:18:21
			As they do the propaganda That these Mullahs,
		
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			these Malvis They are violent, they are extremists
		
01:18:24 --> 01:18:26
			They behave like this, this is how these
		
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			people behave When we go on their streams
		
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			They are like beautiful fairies You know, they
		
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			are rainbows Like my little pony land, there
		
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			are ponies flying around You know, these are
		
01:18:36 --> 01:18:38
			like rainbows But when they come to our
		
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			streams They turn into monsters So please be
		
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			patient, Razi Okay, let me finish myself Now
		
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			He made up a Hadith the other day
		
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			On one of our live streams When we
		
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			probed him, we asked him Where are these
		
01:18:53 --> 01:18:57
			words Attributed to the Prophet That there will
		
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			be a black Prophet from India Whose name
		
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			will be Also known as Christian Hindu deity
		
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			Hindu deity He attributed, Mirza the Prophet Attributed
		
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			this information to the Prophet When we asked
		
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			him where is the Hadith Razi Basically claimed
		
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			Using words It is recorded It is historic,
		
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			it is going to Go down in history,
		
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			it is not going to be removed Okay,
		
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			he said And we caught him lying When
		
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			we asked him to show the text He
		
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			said, oh these words are not there These
		
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			words are basically from Ilham, from revelation This
		
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			is the game he played Today he is
		
01:19:41 --> 01:19:43
			saying that I said Ibn Taymiyyah is in
		
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			* fire I challenge him to produce a
		
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			statement For me, a video clip for me
		
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			Where I said Ibn Taymiyyah Is in *
		
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			fire Okay, if he doesn't, then not only
		
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			That he is a compulsive liar Just like
		
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			his Prophet, his entire Community Those who don't
		
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			take him up on this The Ahmadis Who
		
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			are listening right now You need to understand
		
01:20:06 --> 01:20:09
			that your trained Paid missionaries, this is what
		
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			they do This is what they made of
		
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			Okay, they will never give straight answers Black
		
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			and white Contradictions, black and white Prophecies of
		
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			your false Prophet And this guy is playing
		
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			games So I request now, Hashim Bhai Remove
		
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			Razi Let someone else in I told you
		
01:20:27 --> 01:20:30
			last time You have to Hashim Bhai Imtiaz
		
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			Bhai has to I'm going to let only
		
01:20:33 --> 01:20:38
			Imtiaz Bhai speak now I told you I'm
		
01:20:38 --> 01:20:39
			going to let Imtiaz Bhai speak Go on
		
01:20:39 --> 01:20:41
			Imtiaz Bhai Okay Hashim, I just want to
		
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			propose Something very important Because this discussion has
		
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			been there for one and a half hour
		
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			Now what will happen is Now they will
		
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			claim At the end, Razi will claim I
		
01:20:52 --> 01:20:55
			was not allowed to speak etc Now here's
		
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			my point Let Razi give two minutes That
		
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			on this failed Prophecy of Mirza Ghulam Ahmad
		
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			Give us four Five whatever bullet points In
		
01:21:06 --> 01:21:09
			two minutes, Inshallah I will address Them in
		
01:21:09 --> 01:21:11
			my turn and secondly I want to answer
		
01:21:11 --> 01:21:13
			what he said Which I need to address
		
01:21:13 --> 01:21:14
			Why?
		
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			Because we need to cap the discussion At
		
01:21:16 --> 01:21:18
			the end because people should see That what
		
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			was the conclusion What was the best shot
		
01:21:21 --> 01:21:23
			played by Razi And how they were responding
		
01:21:23 --> 01:21:26
			Please give him two minutes Are you sure
		
01:21:26 --> 01:21:27
			you don't want to make the points because
		
01:21:27 --> 01:21:30
			you might get Inshallah after two minutes After
		
01:21:30 --> 01:21:32
			that I want to respond to his points
		
01:21:32 --> 01:21:35
			Because I want him To give us his
		
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			best points On this prophecy Okay Razi you
		
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			can go ahead So firstly Adnan Rashid lied
		
01:21:42 --> 01:21:45
			That I lied against Rasulullah I never lied,
		
01:21:45 --> 01:21:48
			that was That was a true hadith In
		
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			Hadith Hadith Hadith
		
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			Hadith Hadith
		
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			Hadith Hadith Hadith Hadith Hadith
		
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			Hadith Hadith Hadith Hadith
		
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			Hadith Hadith Hadith Hadith Hadith Hadith Hadith Hadith
		
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			Hadith Hadith
		
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			Hadith Hadith Hadith
		
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			Hadith Hadith Hadith Hadith Hadith Hadith Hadith Hadith
		
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			Hadith Hadith
		
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			Hadith Hadith Hadith
		
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			Hadith Hadith Hadith Hadith Hadith
		
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			Hadith Hadith with them in one minute inshallah
		
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			Point number one and point number five is
		
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			about that.
		
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			Our scholars said this they are not part
		
01:24:24 --> 01:24:27
			of this discussion Okay, we are discussing Mirza
		
01:24:27 --> 01:24:35
			his prophecies You will
		
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			humiliate these people you people humiliate, okay, I'm
		
01:24:40 --> 01:24:45
			gonna remove him because he's All the audience,
		
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			please understand.
		
01:24:47 --> 01:24:48
			I sat him give us your best shot
		
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			on this prophecy He said five point point
		
01:24:51 --> 01:24:51
			number one.
		
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			Why he said that our scholars have accepted
		
01:24:55 --> 01:24:58
			this prophecy number one He was lying our
		
01:24:58 --> 01:25:01
			scholars clearly declared him a liar if they
		
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			would accept his prophecies Okay, why would they
		
01:25:04 --> 01:25:05
			call him a liar?
		
01:25:05 --> 01:25:07
			And secondly, this is not our main answer
		
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			by the way, our main answer is this
		
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			but I'm gonna say now Okay, our scholars,
		
01:25:12 --> 01:25:16
			whatever they say it has no bearing on
		
01:25:16 --> 01:25:18
			the Ilhamat or revelation of Mirza.
		
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			Our subject is this is what Mirza said
		
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			You need to defend that you cannot bring
		
01:25:23 --> 01:25:25
			up or secondly if our scholars are a
		
01:25:25 --> 01:25:28
			hujjah if they are approved Then you need
		
01:25:28 --> 01:25:31
			to accept everything they say, okay, and they
		
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			clearly said Mirza's a liar.
		
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			Do you accept this?
		
01:25:34 --> 01:25:35
			How can you do the cherry pick?
		
01:25:35 --> 01:25:37
			Okay, you just take few things I was
		
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			scholar and with us all of that Allah
		
01:25:39 --> 01:25:41
			does not allow this to a believer the
		
01:25:41 --> 01:25:43
			cherry Pick some dark wall or from the
		
01:25:43 --> 01:25:44
			sayings of the scholars.
		
01:25:44 --> 01:25:46
			Okay, so point number one and five were
		
01:25:46 --> 01:25:49
			about the scholars point Number two was he
		
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			said that the Mirza side made mistakes because
		
01:25:52 --> 01:25:55
			he was always giving Estimations.
		
01:25:55 --> 01:25:57
			Okay on this point.
		
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			I asked him I said, okay because he
		
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			was making mistake Because of his estimation he
		
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			was having this error When Allah corrected him
		
01:26:07 --> 01:26:10
			on his on his what date of birth,
		
01:26:10 --> 01:26:12
			okay Because this was the air he was
		
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			always making he was always making error about
		
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			the date of birth This was the key
		
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			point and has he has not been able
		
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			to produce any Evidence to tell us that
		
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			when Allah corrected Mirza sahib on his date
		
01:26:25 --> 01:26:26
			of birth.
		
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			This was a point of error Okay, and
		
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			then the next point is this okay?
		
01:26:31 --> 01:26:33
			Does he was trying to hold on to
		
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			one thing?
		
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			He said Oh Adnan by quoted the translation
		
01:26:36 --> 01:26:40
			which says that only 60 years but the
		
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			actual text says The Kareem and satsa or
		
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			nearly or close to 60 years.
		
01:26:46 --> 01:26:49
			Okay My point is this number one Razi
		
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			said that I have the scan Razi, you
		
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			know what scan means that what statement was
		
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			given in the court of law you have
		
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			the scan of their statement You don't have
		
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			that you produced a book that book is
		
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			quoting this testimony of we have the book
		
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			as well So only thing that can justify
		
01:27:08 --> 01:27:10
			that you are truthful if you can produce
		
01:27:10 --> 01:27:12
			the scan of what?
		
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			Statement was given in the court of law
		
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			Razi has no scan and I really doubt
		
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			I really doubt because I can give you
		
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			many References that they keep putting things here
		
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			and there very little they can change the
		
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			whole meaning.
		
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			So my Is my challenge to Ravi is
		
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			if you want to hold on to the
		
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			point of only or Kareem Please produce the
		
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			scan if you will produce the scan then
		
01:27:37 --> 01:27:39
			medical you have no scan But you said
		
01:27:39 --> 01:27:41
			you have a scan you are lying in
		
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			this one.
		
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			Okay, and the next point is this Okay,
		
01:27:44 --> 01:27:46
			if Mirza so I say according to you
		
01:27:46 --> 01:27:49
			his date of birth was 1835 Okay in
		
01:27:49 --> 01:27:53
			1901 if he was saying I'm 60 year
		
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			old or Kareem and 60.
		
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			He's still lying Because from 35 to 1901
		
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			it becomes how long it become my brother
		
01:28:02 --> 01:28:06
			67 years so according to your Your it's
		
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			still lying.
		
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			It did not solve any problem.
		
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			Okay, and then the main point is this,
		
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			okay The actual prophecy was that Mirza will
		
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			live between 1774 to 80 or 86 years.
		
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			Okay, this prophecy was not fulfilled This is
		
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			the subject matter everything else was discussed because
		
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			of this and on this one Razi was
		
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			saying again and again I want to say
		
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			it in very clear terms the platform of
		
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			brother Hashim is available to you Inshallah is
		
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			available to all of us.
		
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			Inshallah my brother bring your research Okay, your
		
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			claim is that according to the research of
		
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			Khulafa Mirza was born in 1835 My research
		
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			is that according to my research Mirza was
		
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			born from 1839 to 1840 And then we
		
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			will let the people decide that whose research
		
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			is backed up with evidence and who's just
		
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			lying Okay You want to respond to that?
		
01:29:11 --> 01:29:17
			Yes No No, no, wait, wait, wait, wait,
		
01:29:17 --> 01:29:19
			can you can I quickly say something?
		
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			Okay.
		
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			Okay, Rosie We're gonna move on to the
		
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			next prophecy because we've spent all already about
		
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			Two hours nearly two hours on this and
		
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			we're gonna go on to next prophecy.
		
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			Inshallah.
		
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			So We're not gonna let Rosie come in
		
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			Because Okay The prophecy remains unfulfilled Rosie is
		
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			throwing irrelevant things at us, which we we
		
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			Don't want to address because they are completely
		
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			irrelevant Can can we bring somebody else in
		
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			after Razula makes a closing statement Yeah Give
		
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			him two minutes make his closing statement because
		
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			the thing is we gave him enough ample
		
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			opportunities to respond to the Claims that you
		
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			guys are making so inshallah.
		
01:30:13 --> 01:30:16
			Let him make One thing one thing before
		
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			you speak one thing Okay I'm again throwing
		
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			this challenge on Raziullah that bring your research
		
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			You have to bring evidence from that research
		
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			and Mirza was born on 1835 I will
		
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			bring my evidence.
		
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			He was born in 1839 to 40.
		
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			Do you accept the challenge or not?
		
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			No, no, no, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait,
		
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			wait again in just like again We have
		
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			shown Mirza is contradicting himself Mirza remained in
		
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			error for decades Mirza said God will not
		
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			leave me in error even for a moment
		
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			Mirza contradict him is contradicting himself.
		
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			He said a person of pure heart and
		
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			wise Vice person of pure heart cannot contradict
		
01:31:06 --> 01:31:10
			himself unless he's deranged unless he's mentally deranged
		
01:31:10 --> 01:31:13
			Mirza was mentally deranged by his own standard
		
01:31:13 --> 01:31:16
			because Mirza kept contradicting himself and there's no
		
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			doubt in my mind that Mirza was mentally
		
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			deranged and by that virtue Mirza was not
		
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			fit to be a prophet or fit to
		
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			be even a School teacher Mirza was not
		
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			fit to be even a school teacher Even
		
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			a football coach even a kabaddi coach, you
		
01:31:33 --> 01:31:35
			know kabaddi is a Punjabi sport, right?
		
01:31:35 --> 01:31:36
			Kabaddi.
		
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			Yeah, there's a wasn't even fit to be
		
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			a kabaddi coach.
		
01:31:39 --> 01:31:43
			Let's say Let alone being a prophet of
		
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			God over to you and next prophecy.
		
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			Go ahead Razila this is your closing statement.
		
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			You got two minutes.
		
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			Go ahead Okay, brother Hashim.
		
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			Can you share do you hear me?
		
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			Yeah, of course.
		
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			Yeah, I'm just going to start my timer
		
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			Can you show my screen, please?
		
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			Yeah, just one sec Okay, so on Mohammed
		
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			Imtiaz accused me of lying for saying I
		
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			have the scan but when Adnan Rashid kept
		
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			saying he has the reference He had reference.
		
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			He never said a word.
		
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			This is how the Jews behave number one
		
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			number two Adnan Rashid lied Why are you
		
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			cutting me off Yeah,
		
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			I'm gonna reset I'm gonna reset the timer
		
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			you got two minutes So if that answers
		
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			the first question, I'll stop saying and now
		
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			Mohammed Imtiaz challenged me I openly challenge all
		
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			three of you get your ahli hadith ulama
		
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			as well Debate me on the death of
		
01:32:44 --> 01:32:47
			Hazrat Isa alaihissalaam from the Quran and our
		
01:32:47 --> 01:32:49
			Hadith You'll never do it.
		
01:32:49 --> 01:32:51
			Qiyamah will come you won't do it.
		
01:32:51 --> 01:32:52
			Adnan Rashid has to lie.
		
01:32:52 --> 01:32:56
			He says Hazrat Isa alaihissalaam was sleeping Miraj
		
01:32:56 --> 01:32:58
			Nabi says I'm greeted Hazrat Isa alaihissalaam.
		
01:32:58 --> 01:33:00
			He replied according to Nabi says him lied
		
01:33:00 --> 01:33:02
			that Isa alaihissalaam replied because you see sleeping
		
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			Last thing I'm going to quote brother Hashim
		
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			this reference ends Adnan Rashid's propaganda I want
		
01:33:09 --> 01:33:10
			you to share this reference.
		
01:33:10 --> 01:33:13
			Sorry Hashim bhai last thing I'm just gonna
		
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			share my screen again, and I'll end at
		
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			that I thank you a lot may Allah
		
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			bless you for being a just moderator and
		
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			a lot of Ahmadis praise you for this
		
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			So may Allah keep you Just in this
		
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			I'm just one more minute you got here.
		
01:33:27 --> 01:33:29
			Yeah, so I'm just going to ask you
		
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			if you can share this Is it showing
		
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			brother not yet?
		
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			Okay Okay, it is now.
		
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			Yeah, Adnan bhai read this Arabic please for
		
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			everyone and translate The highlighted one.
		
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			Yes Can you read it?
		
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			You're smiling read it you need to No,
		
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			no, I wanted from your mouth Okay Says
		
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			yeah, you but that's you know, who Allah
		
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			had the calamities asked about someone who caused
		
01:34:09 --> 01:34:11
			someone wallet Who's in a he lied against
		
01:34:11 --> 01:34:13
			has a time lesson because as a time
		
01:34:13 --> 01:34:16
			lesson use this majority sense How'd they cause
		
01:34:16 --> 01:34:18
			if is needed even a team?
		
01:34:18 --> 01:34:20
			Yes says your mujaddid your spiritual father bring
		
01:34:20 --> 01:34:22
			him out of the * today at non
		
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			-bay accept this reference He says only had
		
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			the cause of and tazir is needed if
		
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			they do not mean it in the sense
		
01:34:31 --> 01:34:34
			You call her a beast majazi torpeh.
		
01:34:34 --> 01:34:36
			Well, I do Zena what do you have
		
01:34:36 --> 01:34:37
			to say about this?
		
01:34:56 --> 01:34:58
			He asked me for clarification, let me clarify
		
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			don't cut me off this This because of
		
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			this reference by that none You should delete
		
01:35:03 --> 01:35:06
			all those videos and you were saying has
		
01:35:06 --> 01:35:08
			a definite lesson needs hard because of because
		
01:35:08 --> 01:35:10
			he used what I do Zena Metaphorically even
		
01:35:10 --> 01:35:11
			a team here I'm gonna says if you
		
01:35:11 --> 01:35:13
			call someone my own and what I do
		
01:35:13 --> 01:35:16
			Zena in the majazi sense like you caused
		
01:35:16 --> 01:35:20
			the mushroom a Habit, there is no tazir
		
01:35:20 --> 01:35:23
			or punishment You have to do all the
		
01:35:23 --> 01:35:26
			videos now for lying against his spiritual father's
		
01:35:26 --> 01:35:28
			and Islamic theology and you lied about Thanks
		
01:35:28 --> 01:35:32
			for your time He has because of has
		
01:35:32 --> 01:35:34
			you use the word her arms that you
		
01:35:34 --> 01:35:35
			lied on that print a let me finish
		
01:35:35 --> 01:35:37
			that day So I am there may Allah
		
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			guide you to the true Islam Islam Ahmadiyya
		
01:35:40 --> 01:35:43
			those who follow Quran and a Hadith Quran
		
01:35:43 --> 01:35:45
			and a Hadith and Sahaba.
		
01:35:45 --> 01:35:48
			We do not follow mullahs of today shah
		
01:35:48 --> 01:35:50
			waliullah muhaddith He says they rejected these a
		
01:35:50 --> 01:35:53
			lesson because of this Salaf Quran a Hadith
		
01:35:53 --> 01:35:56
			proves the truthfulness of Ahmadiyya may Allah guide
		
01:35:56 --> 01:35:58
			you all and show you Such a strong
		
01:35:58 --> 01:36:01
			sign that makes you accept the true Islam
		
01:36:01 --> 01:36:04
			Islam Ahmadiyya and hazard them a lesson as
		
01:36:04 --> 01:36:06
			the latter-day Messiah He's a lesson is
		
01:36:06 --> 01:36:06
			dead.
		
01:36:07 --> 01:36:08
			He is never coming back.
		
01:36:08 --> 01:36:11
			Quran is clear Wa ma muhammadun illa rasool
		
01:36:11 --> 01:36:14
			qad khalaq min qablih rasool all messengers before
		
01:36:14 --> 01:36:28
			he's a lesson Keep
		
01:36:28 --> 01:36:42
			your camera on Okay, brother
		
01:36:42 --> 01:36:45
			every listener, please pay attention in this whole
		
01:36:45 --> 01:36:49
			prophecy There is only one cop-out There's
		
01:36:49 --> 01:36:53
			only one exit which Jamaat Ahmadiyya has discovered
		
01:36:53 --> 01:36:56
			and that cop-out is that Mirza's date
		
01:36:56 --> 01:36:58
			of birth was 1835 number one.
		
01:36:59 --> 01:37:00
			This was the main cop-out.
		
01:37:01 --> 01:37:04
			I Challenged as you love you have not
		
01:37:04 --> 01:37:07
			answered to come on any independent platform Okay,
		
01:37:07 --> 01:37:09
			Mike, you cannot prove this.
		
01:37:09 --> 01:37:12
			I'm saying it very clearly You have no
		
01:37:12 --> 01:37:14
			evidence you are you are seeing Muhammad in
		
01:37:14 --> 01:37:16
			chaos for the first time, but you'll see
		
01:37:16 --> 01:37:18
			me now more Okay, you have no evidence.
		
01:37:18 --> 01:37:21
			I have studied every single evidence produced by
		
01:37:21 --> 01:37:24
			Ahmadiyya on this subject I challenge you brother.
		
01:37:24 --> 01:37:26
			I challenge you you if you cannot prove
		
01:37:26 --> 01:37:29
			that he was born on 1835 Then you
		
01:37:29 --> 01:37:31
			have no option left Then you have to
		
01:37:31 --> 01:37:35
			admit that Mirza's prophecy was a failed prophecy
		
01:37:35 --> 01:37:36
			and he said this is a sign for
		
01:37:36 --> 01:37:40
			the future people Number two, you are saying
		
01:37:40 --> 01:37:43
			to a nun by the Because of a
		
01:37:43 --> 01:37:45
			lot of Zina I challenge you you I
		
01:37:45 --> 01:37:47
			challenge you Okay This topic you want to
		
01:37:47 --> 01:37:50
			debate this topic that what is the Jumhoor
		
01:37:50 --> 01:37:53
			opinion if somebody says to somebody Well, it
		
01:37:53 --> 01:37:55
			was Zina without evidence.
		
01:37:55 --> 01:37:57
			What is the call you Jumhoor?
		
01:37:58 --> 01:38:02
			Metaphorically literally a metaphor Literally or metaphorically job
		
01:38:02 --> 01:38:17
			of the Minute
		
01:38:17 --> 01:38:20
			now, he's creating an exit that he will
		
01:38:20 --> 01:38:23
			try to say that Mirza Sahib said it
		
01:38:23 --> 01:38:24
			metaphorically guess what?
		
01:38:24 --> 01:38:27
			I'm going to produce those references Razi you
		
01:38:27 --> 01:38:29
			have not seen in your life, which will
		
01:38:29 --> 01:38:30
			I read all his books?
		
01:38:38 --> 01:38:40
			Why not to accept my challenge my challenge
		
01:38:40 --> 01:38:43
			to use a nun by you are you're
		
01:38:43 --> 01:38:45
			saying to a nun My challenge to you
		
01:38:45 --> 01:38:48
			is debate me on this topic that if
		
01:38:48 --> 01:38:50
			you call somebody one of the Zina What
		
01:38:50 --> 01:38:51
			is the call you Jumhoor?
		
01:38:51 --> 01:38:52
			I challenge you.
		
01:38:52 --> 01:38:52
			Okay.
		
01:38:52 --> 01:38:54
			Now, let me answer Ashwin then I'm done.
		
01:38:54 --> 01:38:56
			Okay, I'll be quick I'll be I thought
		
01:38:56 --> 01:38:57
			that was a closing statement.
		
01:38:57 --> 01:38:59
			Yeah, but he went again.
		
01:38:59 --> 01:39:00
			So let me and because I'm the guy
		
01:39:14 --> 01:39:20
			If you Razi if you a man if
		
01:39:20 --> 01:39:22
			you are a man and if you are
		
01:39:22 --> 01:39:25
			all those things you've claimed Except the challenge
		
01:39:25 --> 01:39:29
			we will produce references We will produce references
		
01:39:29 --> 01:39:33
			that anyone using the terms like the real
		
01:39:33 --> 01:39:36
			Bahaya One door Haram or one of the
		
01:39:36 --> 01:39:40
			heart armor one of the Zina Okay, or
		
01:39:40 --> 01:39:44
			Harami or Haram Zada We all this beautiful
		
01:39:44 --> 01:39:49
			language beautiful flowers coming from Mirza's mouth for
		
01:39:49 --> 01:39:53
			his opponents if we show you references and
		
01:39:53 --> 01:39:57
			show you the position of the overwhelming majority
		
01:39:57 --> 01:40:01
			of other Sunnati will Jama'a That they
		
01:40:01 --> 01:40:06
			believe anyone using these words deserve Because 80
		
01:40:06 --> 01:40:09
			lashes and such a person's testimony will never
		
01:40:09 --> 01:40:10
			be accepted.
		
01:40:10 --> 01:40:13
			This person is vulgar foul and not worthy
		
01:40:13 --> 01:40:17
			of any respect Except the challenge be a
		
01:40:17 --> 01:40:20
			man except the challenge to debate this topic
		
01:40:20 --> 01:40:23
			or shut up Which one is being abusive?
		
01:40:23 --> 01:40:24
			Why are you being abusive now?
		
01:40:34 --> 01:40:37
			Did not call you Harami I did not
		
01:40:37 --> 01:40:39
			cause you to be able Bahaya, how can
		
01:40:39 --> 01:40:39
			it be abusive?
		
01:40:40 --> 01:40:49
			That's your profit I
		
01:40:49 --> 01:40:51
			am being abused it for telling him to
		
01:40:51 --> 01:40:55
			shut up his prophet Mirza was calling people
		
01:40:55 --> 01:40:59
			Harami Haram Zada one of the Zina the
		
01:40:59 --> 01:41:02
			rear to Bahaya all of these things mean
		
01:41:02 --> 01:41:06
			one thing a Bastard child and he's telling
		
01:41:06 --> 01:41:09
			me that I'm abusing him for telling you
		
01:41:09 --> 01:41:11
			to shut up this and by the way
		
01:41:11 --> 01:41:13
			You call up not a liar many times.
		
01:41:14 --> 01:41:16
			So We could say the same thing that
		
01:41:16 --> 01:41:19
			you're abusing him Make the point and then
		
01:41:19 --> 01:41:23
			you can come in Listen, I did not
		
01:41:23 --> 01:41:25
			ask you for any references.
		
01:41:25 --> 01:41:26
			You know, I did not ask you for
		
01:41:26 --> 01:41:30
			anything I simply asked you one question that
		
01:41:30 --> 01:41:32
			this prophecy can only be defended if you
		
01:41:32 --> 01:41:35
			can prove That Mirza sahib was born in
		
01:41:35 --> 01:41:37
			1835 on this topic.
		
01:41:38 --> 01:41:39
			I'm throwing you a challenge.
		
01:41:39 --> 01:41:41
			Are you accepting the challenge or not?
		
01:41:44 --> 01:41:45
			Yeah, your turn Razi.
		
01:41:45 --> 01:41:46
			Can I answer?
		
01:41:46 --> 01:41:48
			Okay First I'm going to expose you for
		
01:41:48 --> 01:41:50
			lying about how they cause of when there's
		
01:41:50 --> 01:41:52
			if they laugh in the umma from your
		
01:41:52 --> 01:41:54
			spiritual father Even a team at a mullah.
		
01:41:55 --> 01:41:56
			Why are you going to mature first?
		
01:41:56 --> 01:41:58
			You have to get witnesses against even a
		
01:41:58 --> 01:42:00
			team in number one numbers.
		
01:42:00 --> 01:42:01
			Why are you cutting me off?
		
01:42:01 --> 01:42:04
			I don't know because you off Speaking you
		
01:42:04 --> 01:42:04
			started speaking.
		
01:42:04 --> 01:42:07
			No, but look the majority of Pakistan today
		
01:42:07 --> 01:42:09
			are brave He's a mother's a Khan's fatwa
		
01:42:09 --> 01:42:12
			is also that there is no had because
		
01:42:12 --> 01:42:14
			upon the word haram zada adnan But she's
		
01:42:14 --> 01:42:16
			like he said be the next line That
		
01:42:16 --> 01:42:17
			was her arms that he that was not
		
01:42:17 --> 01:42:19
			where word was not even used by the
		
01:42:19 --> 01:42:21
			promise I lesson we can show you authentic
		
01:42:21 --> 01:42:22
			narration from sahaba.
		
01:42:23 --> 01:42:24
			They use this as well Where was the
		
01:42:24 --> 01:42:26
			had because of against them this shows you're
		
01:42:26 --> 01:42:29
			a liar and you have your own If
		
01:42:29 --> 01:42:32
			there was had because of sahaba would also
		
01:42:32 --> 01:42:33
			have had because of against him for using
		
01:42:33 --> 01:42:35
			these was his narrations in Guns and Umar
		
01:42:35 --> 01:42:37
			as well and many other books, which I
		
01:42:37 --> 01:42:39
			showed already even the team is on our
		
01:42:39 --> 01:42:41
			side He's our scholar.
		
01:42:41 --> 01:42:59
			No, he's a queen Listen Everybody
		
01:43:20 --> 01:43:24
			He said he will die between 74 to
		
01:43:24 --> 01:43:30
			86 Then he said in 1901 in a
		
01:43:30 --> 01:43:33
			court proceeding that he is 60 years of
		
01:43:33 --> 01:43:41
			age Taking his word close to it.
		
01:43:41 --> 01:43:44
			No problem still my case still stands That
		
01:43:44 --> 01:43:47
			means is closer to 60 than 70 as
		
01:43:47 --> 01:43:50
			I have shown already Still he's a liar
		
01:43:51 --> 01:43:52
			Still he's a liar.
		
01:43:52 --> 01:43:56
			You know why because still even even if
		
01:43:56 --> 01:43:59
			we were to take if it was up
		
01:43:59 --> 01:44:03
			to 65 and Another seven years that makes
		
01:44:03 --> 01:44:06
			the 72 Mirza is still a liar because
		
01:44:06 --> 01:44:10
			close to 65 Cannot be more than 65.
		
01:44:10 --> 01:44:14
			Sorry close to 60 close to 60 By
		
01:44:14 --> 01:44:16
			your book your reference that you put it
		
01:44:16 --> 01:44:19
			out and we accept it It says close
		
01:44:19 --> 01:44:22
			to 60 it cannot be more than 65
		
01:44:22 --> 01:44:25
			because more than 65 in 1966 that would
		
01:44:25 --> 01:44:26
			be close to 70.
		
01:44:26 --> 01:44:28
			So it's just close to 60.
		
01:44:28 --> 01:44:31
			So that means maximum 65 and Add another
		
01:44:31 --> 01:44:34
			seven years that makes him 72 at his
		
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			death even then Mirza is a liar because
		
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			he said I will die between 74 and
		
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			86 there goes your Mirza there go you
		
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			and All your lies and all your lame
		
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			defenses now wait if that's right now Now
		
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			I request that we don't fall for his
		
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			Digressing Next
		
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			prophecy right now I'm the guest This
		
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			is my stream, this is my stream So,
		
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			please listen to my request myself and Hashim
		
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			and in tells by a request from all
		
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			of you Move on to the next prophecy.
		
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			Otherwise, otherwise we're gonna be here this guy,
		
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			you know, he's playing games So let's go
		
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			to the next prophecy I was gonna do
		
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			that like a liar half an hour.
		
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			We have we have shown is that to
		
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			be a liar on many fronts?
		
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			Let's go to the next prophecy over to
		
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			you.
		
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			There's a next prophecy None by because alhamdulillah
		
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			in our tradition.
		
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			We respect our brothers our elders inshallah Even
		
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			though I have very strong point, but let
		
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			me try to proceed to the next one.
		
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			Okay, please.
		
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			So Raziel I'm going to bring somebody else
		
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			in if that's okay the last conclusion when
		
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			you said that I won't mention any then
		
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			everybody will go again back To
		
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			me I don't want to hear it.
		
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			I don't want to hear it I'm gonna
		
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			go to the next prophecy.
		
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			Otherwise, this guy is gonna be playing It
		
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			was fulfilled so now let's say it's for
		
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			good but now we said, okay.
		
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			Thank you very much.
		
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			I Need to make his point