Adnan Rajeh – Tackling Contemporary Issues Navigating Differences
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The speakers discuss the cultural and political boundaries of Muslims, including the belief that sexual behavior is acceptable and that men and women are not considered one of the same sex. They emphasize the importance of acceptance and respect for Muslims, avoiding negative behavior, and learning how to call for acceptance and respect. The speakers also emphasize the need for privacy and ethics in Islam, educating children on their rights and values, and creating a community of support for children. They also mention the need for a social solution to prevent social problems and suggest massages as an art.
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throughout the summer I intend to make the series about contemporary issues or tackling contemporary issues.
I have a list of maybe 12 topics
that come up in any given social conversation or gathering. You leave Muslim people to talk for 10 minutes and one of these issues will pop up, it won't be intended and won't be driven by a specific figure. It doesn't matter whether I'm there or not one of these issues comes up. And it's talked about and causes a lot of tension. Most people don't even agree on how to deal with it. But it keeps on coming up. And I think the summer is a good time as ever, all right as any to talk about issues that we worry about, that we feel are important and that we have yet to find a solution for.
And I'm gonna maybe tackle seven to eight of these topics out of the 12 that I that I have the series before when we talked about investing in the five categories of investment of community or social investment, talking about education and mentorship and advocacy and outreach
In financial centralization, this here is my attempt to help or move forward the idea of education and advocacy because these topics will definitely need need some degree of advocacy behind them in order for us to make some changes, or else we are going to be stuck with 12 or more they'll continue to grow. By the way, the list will get longer. of topics that we argue about, or we're worried about we're concerned about we talk a lot about in our gatherings. But with that said, that's as far as it goes. It's just complaints, it just things that we discuss and talk about, and then we get tired of talking about it. So we move on to something different, because they don't see any light at the end
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And today, the first hope by then I'm going to the first thing we're going to talk about is by far the number one meaning out of the list of postings, there's a number one, and then there's a huge drop, and there's number 234 And five. So this is why fight is way ahead of everything. I have yet to have a gathering where we're not where people just talk about that this topic does not come up more than once.
And I've never seen a topic that has caused so much worry amongst the Muslim community. I haven't like I've never actually seen even though I've lived in places where were examples. There were there were good contenders. They were very good contenders to topics that people were worried about. But this is just this is just beyond this is off the charts. People are talking about this all the time.
And it's important that we that we start discussing it in a way that allows us to figure out a solution because I'm getting tired of talking about it socially honestly I'm trying to avoid it because it's just it's just a headache. But here's my attempt to break it down and maybe put us on a track moving forward.
So too often this is where Allah subhanaw taala points out five things that he exclusively says are haram he says in them are haram Arabic means Oh, he made haram or these five things. They're very profound, and they're categorized as extremely interesting. This isn't a beautiful idea for you to contemplate and study and learn. But I'm interested in the first one that he pointed out supine on what data here could have been fella hush motherhood I mean, how am I open the word fat he has a carpet term or an umbrella term that covers under it all promiscuous sexual activity is called back Usher. Sexual activity between a husband and a wife is called office and we know that's haram and
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And then he says hola como de la cama refers to Ilan isa equal, so between a man and a wife, a husband and wife, that's called the office. I think the other side of that is called Fela, anything, anything at all? Be creative, be creative. Think of anything, anything at all, you make the thought, and that's fine. Anything Well, lucky. It's infinite. The amount the number of thoughts are infinite. You can be as creative as you like, you can put together things that no one has ever thought of is haram, because it's a fetish is promiscuous sexual activity. Mahamantra on mobile phones, that which is publicly as socially available, It's haram, and that which is hidden is also
haram.
Now, we all know that, and you heard many footballs on these issues. You've I'm sure over the last year or so. I remember talking about this in 2016. And I was shut down at the time, mind you, and I talked about again, 2018. And I was shut down again. And now everyone is talking. Okay, fine. We're there. Now, we think this is important. Unfortunately, as Muslims, for some reason, we always arrive at the party, only if you're 40 to 50 years later, after the legislation has gone through, and it's already been agreed upon socially, then we decide, okay, we have an opinion. But that's alright, better late than never, I say. So let's at least start figuring out how we're gonna how we're going
to move forward regarding this topic.
Now, I'm not going to use all the letters and numbers because people get cancelled these days for saying things that others don't like. So you understand exactly what I'm going to talk about, you know, it's because it's all you're talking about. Because every time you sit with people who have children or not, whether you are middle aged, or older or younger, when you sit around this issue comes up, and it's talked about because it's concerning. So the point of this whole book today is three questions. And I'm going to try and offer some answers not based on my personal whims or desires or thoughts. But actually based on my experience, I mean, based on listening to people talk
about this, based on people coming to me and talking to me about it, I just I usually are the I'm the person but I'm not by listened to it. So this is what I believe is the consensus or what we can do. The first question is, what is it that reasonable Muslims agree upon? The second question is what is at stake here? And the third question is, what do we really want? And then becomes
what comes after that is what do we do?
And I don't necessarily know, but at least we can maybe figure out the first three, let me be clear here. Muslims differ on their approach to this topic. Of fella hash. We differ. We don't all have the same approach. We agree on a lot of things regarding it, but we don't have the same approach. The spectrum is quite wide. Muslims practicing Muslims, God fearing Muslims have different approaches to the same problem. And it depends highly on where they were born, where they were raised, where they went to school, what experiences they have in their own lives, in their homes and in their families. It differs
It really does. If you can just take that away from me today, then you've learned something valuable, that you are entitled to your approach to the problem. I validate whatever approach you have, because I don't know what's the right one is. So whatever approach you think there must be some light in it. Just make sure you're able to mentally validate other people's approaches, as well don't demonize, or vilify someone who has a different approach to the problem, just because it's not it's not something that you think is right, because there's actually a quite wide a very wide spectrum here.
Again, when we talk about fo a hash, this is something that is very specific Islamically in Islam is very specific. Everything in Islam is MOBA. until told otherwise. And, unless
stated, otherwise, everything is okay. Except two things. God's their sexual behavior. These two things are very specific. There is no God. But Allah subhanaw taala. It's one you don't have a variety to choose from. You can have a couple it's one, this la isla illAllah. It's very specific. Your belief system is not open. It's not for sale. It is not variable. It is no diversity in it. It's one night yeah, Illa Allah, we don't validate any other gods at all. All of any other belief system, in our opinion as Muslims is wrong, is wrong. We don't we think it's wrong. We think it's wrong. We actually speak out against no any form of shidduch is not forgivable as he explained to us
subhanho wa taala. So it's very specific. And then it comes to sexual behavior, very similar. See, food is different. Eat everything. Just don't eat pork and meet.
A couple of things. You don't eat a couple of things you don't drink. couple places you can go, just a few things I shouldn't be doing when it comes to this. No, no, no, no. The only sexual behavior that's acceptable is a man and woman within marriage. That's it. Anything else is called fascia. Anything else? Yes, we have a problem on our hands that we're gonna talk about today. But there are other philosophies that people don't seem to care about that much.
The other day before, I don't know why.
I'm not sure why. The other fella hates that people just say Yeah, it's fine. Yeah, he's 16. Yeah, he's a girlfriend. No problem. You know, she's no, no, no, it isn't. It is not. No, it is not. They're awful. And they're all unacceptable. And if we hadn't learned that if you open the door for one fucking show, if you haven't learned that when you open the door for one, it's like a domino. It just everything else keeps on coming in. That's what we're dealing with. Right now in the west today. No, we're not getting that. We haven't learned the lesson. No, all fella Asha haram, and all of them have to be ended and we cannot afford to have any of them. None of them are okay. None of
them are not one of them is worse than the other. They lead to each other. They lead. That's the problem. We allowed for some fella issues and others came along Oh, those are worse. No, no, he said this, it started here. It started with the fact that you accepted a certain type of fat that you should have never accepted. So just make sure that's clear to you. That philosophy Chippewa, schmo, bald, I mean, all of them are haram.
So let me attempt to answer the first question. What do we as Muslims reasonably agree upon?
Cutting mustard? I'm not talking about people who don't come to my session. I'm talking about the general Canadian society.
They are not interested in what I have to say on an inbound, I can tell you that much. But let's what is it that Muslims reasonably agree upon two things, number one, that the boundaries of Allah subhanho wa Taala are not for sale, they are not compromisable they are not negotiable. They are crystal clear, what is hunted and what is haram, he made it very clear. Subhanahu Wattana, he told us if you fall down the path of Allah, which not only will you be punished, and I will make sure you're punished and dunya as well, it will bring upon you harm and those around you harm, and it will ruin the experience of the human race if you continue to fall into this into them. And this is
what Allah Allah explained to us in the Quran, and the Sunnah of the Prophet, Allah, you started so extensively, that this type of behaviors are not acceptable. They're very important, we had to take care of them. And we have to make sure that we the parameters of our behaviors, the parameters of our society, the parameters of our ethics, are all observing that very simple and clear concept. And this is not something that we wouldn't change for any reason. This is not there's not open. There's not we don't bring that it's not a chip that we bring to the table, and then we get no no, this is it, this will never change. If I'm the last person on Earth, I will continue to believe this until I
die. And if you're a Muslim, then you will too because that's what Allah subhanaw taala explain whether you understand why you're not whether you doesn't matter. That's what Allah subhanaw taala explained. But tomonori openemis Celine is Allah whom who whom Lupin
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That was Lopata his silence Perfect answer in Neely, I'm Alico Minella calling Pauline hails from Taylor, or Hulu, regardless of how you both both both origins in the Arabic language, both of them mean to refuse something, to refuse to say I don't I don't accept this, I don't accept it. And I will not participate or partake in it. And those of us family who did, we're not taking care of like the rest of his family. Those who did partake, or those who agreed or those who intellectually participated were not taken care of like his family, it's very clear. That's the first thing they agree upon as Muslims reasonably agree upon. The second thing is we agree as Muslims that no one
should be discriminated against no one, regardless of what they're doing, regardless of how many sins they're committing, they could be committing every sin under the sun. Everyone deserves to be treated with dignity with respect.
Everyone, we start with ourselves as Muslims, we don't accept being destroyed or discriminated against as Muslims. And we don't want that occurring towards upon any other human being. Doesn't matter what they believe and how they practice and what they identify with. It doesn't matter. You're a human being you deserve to be treated with dignity, respect and not be discriminated against. We agree with that. As Muslims these two topics, I have found that most reasonable Muslims agree with these two topics. These two ideas are completely Yes, we will not change what ALLAH SubhanA taught us for anybody, and we refuse discrimination regardless. And we're not saying that
one is against the other. They're both we carry a boast with no problems inside our hearts. I walked around, and I'm well Hamdulillah I am capable of doing it. I'm not schizophrenic. I'm capable of walking around saying I believe in both that Allah subhanaw taala made certain behaviors haram. I live by that abide by that and those who perform Haram are people who might tolerate and respect and love and treat with the best of believe that I have and deserve to be treated with dignity and no one shouldn't stand against them. No one should oppress them. No one should transgress against their rights. It's very possible and most Muslims agree to that. When you offer it associate certain
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eloquent hmm, when your arm and your arm will be to sell we second question, what's at stake here? And I think this is a reasonable question. Because people are upset about this. And they're scared, and they don't know what to do about it. And some people I know, have actually picked up and left. They picked up and left the country. I don't agree with that. I think if you run away from a problem that follows you, I think you if you're if you run away for a problem, it will find a way to follow you. So if you're stuck with a problem, who's to stand up to it, you challenge it, like the prophets of Allah, Allah, it's like you said, like the sahaba? Do you stand up against a problem and you
speak to it, and if it needs to be dealt with, and you deal with it, and if that means it's gonna be hard, it's gonna be hard. I'm not saying it's going to be easy, it's gonna be very difficult, it's actually been probably the most difficult thing that our generation does. Sometimes you don't understand how difficult things are until years later. And sometimes you don't see the effect of what you do in your lifetime, meaning you work towards something, you die. And you don't even though that what you did may actually have impact. But that's very important as Muslims first understand, sometimes the dominoes, they don't fall within a lifetime, like the first domino falls during my
life. And by the time I'm dead, is still the second hasn't fallen, but they're all gonna fall unless we actually make some changes, which is what I'm trying to bring to your attention today. So what's at stake here? What's at stake here is our value system. That's why everyone's so afraid. That's why people feel scared. That's why people are worried. It's because yes, our value system is at stake here. Because the value system that allows us to pounce on it, talk to Adam and Adam it he said I'm handed down to his children, pious children that the value system the principles that Ibrahim how to use them, and Moonshadow he said I'm and he started he said, I'm in Mosul Allah, why didn't you
early or Samuel Salam o carried is at stake here, you're being told that these principles that all of the prophets of God live by that exists in all of the books that were sent by Allah subhanaw taala is now unwelcome, is now a bit weird, it now needs to be refined is not what you know. And that's, and that's not sticking, that's scary. I won't I won't lie to you. It's terrifying. It really is. It's terrifying, that this value system is no longer the norm at this volume system has been actually changed. And that's why people get afraid because it's different. You see,
you see ethical and moral.
So a value discrepancy is much more difficult to deal with, then a physical one, or a financial one or a political one. Those are well defined, you understand what political tyranny is, or financial tyranny or or military that's understand we understand that, especially people sitting here because you come from backgrounds, you don't understand. But the cool and moral turned us that's difficult. I don't know what that is. I have never actually it's new. It's new to most of us. So we're not sure what to do. Because we feel like, Are you are you telling me that what Allah subhanaw taala is telling me in his book was explaining to me what he said in the Torah and the support, and indeed,
in the Quran, and every other book is now no longer suitable? Is that what you're saying? And that I have to actually change it is unwelcome. That's scary. And that's why people are terrified. I'm not scaring you. I'm just telling you why. What I why I think people are weighed so much, because that's at stake. Subconsciously, we feel that that's at stake. Now, you may disagree, say it's not at stake. Okay. That's not a problem. I'm telling you why I think people are worried about it, because we feel it that's at stake. And I tend to agree that I think it probably use the second reason people disagree or people what's at stake. The second issue at stake is our children.
You see, let's let's admit something here. We're not very good parents.
Maybe you are. I come from the Middle East from Syria did the parents well, my contribution as a parent is to dress my child. Put a smile on his head, open the door, push him outside and call him I'm not gonna have time because that's how
We will how I was raised. That's how I spent my life. I left the house I ran outside all day long. And wherever he bumped into someone who was an aunt, an uncle, someone who had the same value system, the same basic stuff, the same basic ethics, the same basic morals, so people grew up with the same basic understandings of life. You can't do that here. You can't do that here. If that's at stake now, if you let them you send them out they come back they come back with things you've never heard of before. Now explosive things you don't understand you stand there you are
who you have no idea you have no answer and then you make give an answer and the answer is not mature. Your Astros a parent, unfortunately, because you're not prepared is not mature. And it does not fit is not suitable. The kid does this make sense? The other narrative seems to be more comprehensive. It seems to have more meat to it, but you're telling me that I don't understand it. And then you lose the steak is sent to school schools are usually places you said those are the those eat hours you can you're safe in the Arabic world. What is the ministry that takes care of schools? What is it called? We sell it What was that the Taliban not telling him not teaching it was
at the Taliban. It's the minute Ministry of raising of raising why because we're going to get them some ethics, they will do a pretty good job, but at least certain things are not being put there. Now they are. So that's at stake. That's why everyone's worried. Because our value system we feel it's at stake and our children's value system, our children's education, our children's safety is at stake. Now, again, you can still fully disagree with me and say no, not at stake. I'm just telling you were listening to people this is what people are scared about. So I will turn yes one guy now I'm a millennial chairman will happen
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Al hamdu Lillahi wa sallahu wa salam O Allah, Allah, may Allah be early, he was talking to humans who who will look for the third question. Okay, so what is it that we really want? I think what we want is maybe two or three things, the first thing is you want to write, to carry our values, we want our values to be validated. We don't want to feel like being a Muslim and carrying the values of a Muslim is somehow something that we should be ashamed of. I shouldn't be standing here being afraid of saying something that could end my career or end my my ability to be an imam or to take away my job. I shouldn't that shouldn't be the case. If I have an opinion. And it's an opinion that
is based on authentic original text on Scripture. It's based on face. People in the billions. Follow it. I shouldn't be afraid, but I am. I am. I will lie to you. Everyone wants to talk about this as a frame because there's there's a culture here that is taking away people's ability to stay what they believe in no one no Muslim, as I said that no Muslim is okay with anyone being mistreated or oppressed or transgressed against or treated without dignity or discriminated against. But our ability to have a value system
instead of values is no one made up yesterday. This has been around forever.
We want our ability to have our opinions and our principles and our values and to look at a behavior and say, you know, we don't agree with that. We don't think that's moral. We don't think that's more we don't know. The concept of identity in that form is not even something we comprehend. We don't celebrate
Certain things, the worst celebration is very, very quickly to begin with. We're very, we're very easy, not stingy. We're very cautious when we use the word celebration to begin with, when do we use the word pride to be good as Muslims, those are words that were very, very specific when we tried to use them. They're not something that we use all the time. So when you use it towards a behavior that we see a sinful, that's very difficult for us. So at least we should have our rights not to be not to be forced to say things that we don't believe in, or just partake in things that we don't believe in. We should have that right. This shouldn't be so difficult. Well, no, he shouldn't be so I am
actually so ashamed. I am extremely ashamed of myself that I'm here saying these things. It sounds listening to myself. I sound ridiculous. I sound ridiculous. Well, lucky. I do. Standing up here saying is it okay? Is it okay that I believe in what Allah subhanaw taala explained to me to believe in that we believe we've been believing in for for a million years? Is it okay for me to have this value system where I stay away from fella has? No, it's not? Why is it?
That's a problem. That is a problem. That's a real problem. And we can this conversation cannot be taking into well is district if this is heat treated, this is not hate speech. And this is not speech that is trying to discriminate against people that's not trying to be violence against people. No, we refuse that as Muslims, we fundamentally refused. I don't know how many times I've explained it before it makes make sense. We are talking about our right to our value system, our right to have principles and ethics that are authentic. The second thing that we want,
I don't want to be able for Muslim children to go to a public system,
public schooling system and not be told things that contradict their faith and contradict these ethics and these principles and these values. It's more than just a faith. It's more than just belief. And no, it's more than that. Look at this area.
Here he'll see shocked first, did you notice that? You know, he didn't say shit, at first, he said it number four out of five things you put in number four, since he said the fella. And then similarly, buddy. And then he talked about shitcan and making things up on behalf of God. It's very important. This is a this is this is a social issue. This affects society is because community, whether you believe in God or not, this is going to affect you. It affects you a lot and affects how the world moves forward.
We want your kids to be and we can, by the way, I'm gonna give you some ideas at the end. But this is what we want. We want to be able to have our ethics and values and principles and not feel like having them as Bice as somehow unwelcome or wrong. And we want to make sure that our kids go to a public school system, and they're not being fed things that we don't agree with. And I think both are reasonable things to ask for.
Mind you is to be very difficult to get them but they're reasonable. No, get lost moment of the scope. I know I've taken a lot of time. But this is not an issue that you can unpack in 10 minutes, unfortunately. How do we get there? All right.
I don't know.
I have no idea. I honestly don't know. But I can tell you this much. I can tell you that we have to be at the tables, the right tables. When we're talking about our children, there is a educational board that exists for every area. If we're at that table, we're explaining our idea or understanding our ethics, our values, we're making sure that people comprehend what we're saying, then there is hope for us to get to a compromise with them, where we can at least keep our children away from certain things that we don't agree with, we can do that. That's doable. There's enough of us, there's a lot of people who have expertise, there are people in the right positions we can do that
we can start those serious, meaningful conversations to get there. Media is important. Media is very important. We don't have a presence, there are opinions, our thoughts are not being stated. And that's important that has to exist. Advocacy on a political level, which is not something obviously charitable organization can do but individuals can do is to talk about legislation to go and see okay, where where does this end? And where does most Islamic faiths raised Islamic faith freedom but the freedom of our of our religion actually come in when certain laws are being put forward? And how do we make sure that we preserve ours preserve our faith and preserve our religion and our rights
and our freedoms as human beings living in this country? That's those are the
those are the realms that we can maybe can start participating in working towards an organized effort is going to be needed for sure. A lot of people we have to stop complaining and start to think, okay, what can the first step be? We don't have to agree on the approach. We can defer a lot of things but at least take a step. Because right now, we're just sitting around complaining about it. I'm tired of it. I'm tired of his distinct people complain, please don't come to me with your complaints. I know. This is not nice. It's very difficult. It's a headache. Figure out something to do about it. Because I because we're coming to a point where we need to figure out next steps and we
don't have them right now. But let me give you this thoughts. This is a social problem. I believe a social solution can be helpful. I believe massages are our our immunity. I believe massages are an art
Here's where we grant our next generation their immunity, massage it. Because if you tried to academically fix a social problem, it takes a long time doesn't work that well, if I sit with seven eight year olds or 10 year olds and explain things to them, they don't understand it, but put them in a social gathering, where a certain way of life is being practiced where certain ethics and values are being put forward, that may be more meaningful. If you don't come to the masjid aside from once a week on to them while you don't bring your kids throughout throughout the week, or, in general, it's not a habit, make it a habit, these this is the hub This is the place where you bring
your children this is a social gathering that they will benefit from, this is how we make them immune, we put them with people who are like minded and they learn the ethics and they learn the principles and they learn the values. That's at least one way that's at least one thing we can do to make this better. But if you are complaining of all of this, and you don't see that there's any way to fix it, but your your children are not a part of massage, they're not a part of that community, they don't come they're not they're involved in it, then you're kind of just kind of contradicting, it's not this is not there's not the way to do it, we have to revive the role of these places, for
sure. Michelle, you'd have to become more active, not just on an academic level, which is what I can do, but on a social level to socially where mentorship comes in, where people are connected with those who they can look up to and learn from, and that's something I thought I would leave you with, this is going to be an issue that we will continue to deal with for the remainder Allahu Allah of our short lives. So I say that let's move from the rail the position of complaining about it and start actually thinking about what is it we can do to bring forward change that will allow us to feel safe to raise our children safely and to continue our our community values moving forward and I
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