Abu Taymiyyah – P1 DEBATE Can You Make Du’a To The Prophet After His Death PART 1
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Bismillah R Rahman Al Rahim in Alhamdulillah Muhammad who want to
start you know who want to stalk Phil on all the bIllahi min Shruti
unforseen our Minsi Lena manejo de la HuFa la medulla, woman you will
follow her the Allah wa shadow Allah Ilaha illa Allah who watched
the hula Sharika what I shall do, Muhammad and of the who are solo,
virtually all praises for Allah subhanho wa Taala we praise Him
and seek his aid and asked for his forgiveness. And we seek refuge
with Allah from all evils of ourselves and our evil actions,
whomever Allah guides, there is no one who can describe him and
whomever Allah misguides there is no one who can guide him. And I
bear witness there is no one has the right to be worship except
Allah alone, having no partner and I bear witness that Muhammad
sallallahu alayhi wa sallam is a slave and His Messenger Assalamu
alaykum Warahmatullahi Wabarakatuh brother brothers who are present
and the brothers and sisters who will be watching this video, and
welcome to today's debate on the permissibility of the Westin st
lotto of the Prophet Muhammad Ali Salam.
Before I start, I'll give a brief introduction to who I am just in
case you're wondering who is this random brother, you know, chairing
today's debate? My name is Delia Hussain. I'm the deputy editor of
the British Muslim news website five pillars. I'm also a columnist
for the Middle East I, a political blogger for The Huffington Post, a
features writer for Al Jazeera and a contributor to the foreign
policy journal. Just in case you're wondering, yes, I am a
journalist. I agreed to chair this event upon request by the
organizers to ensure that the rules and etiquettes of the debate
is carried out properly. With the sole objective for the viewers to
benefit based upon the cases and argumentation presented by both
parties. I strongly discourage edited videos and sound bytes to
be uploaded in the aftermath of this debate. And I will speak up
publicly, if I see gross distortions and misrepresentations
from either side. As an impartial chair, I will not make any
comments about the performance of any party along should expect me
to support either side, people can make a judgement based on the
arguments presented this evening in from the entirety of the
debate. And brothers, I kindly ask that if you're going to be taking
photos, that the brothers who have come on behalf of Castro have
requested to not take photos. And if you do not want to take photos
of yourself from the other side. Let's make that clear. Let's
respect each other's boundaries in sha Allah. I also want to remind
you guys that 1000s if not hundreds of 1000s of people will
be watching this debate. And here we have two individuals who are
very loaded. And this is, you know, visible from the amount of
books that they have bought along with them. So please for the sake
of Allah and the betterment of this religion, can we please
ensure that our other and our clock and our etiquettes is in
place for verily, if the Muslims were not so educated and not so
knowledge about the religion, see men have books, men or scripture
behave in a way which is not befitting the new shop, this will
definitely be lead leading a very bad example.
So without any further delay, I will introduce today's speakers.
On my left, I have Chef throw Rashid. He teaches in numerous
massages in Birmingham, and is well known for having taught
numerous students. He holds seminars on issues of Kalam and
eschatology, as well as lecturing on social and political issues. He
has studied the science of dusts in his army sort of know Montek
Manasa, Kalam tafsir Hadith, fake astronomie Rukia inheritance and
prosody. Chef thrower has gained ijazah for multiple scholars, most
notably from Sayed Mohammed bin Alawi, Maliki Alomar Rasool Buxa
Ed, move to your Mohammed, a Sheikh Mohammed Juma he has
studied in Madras affairs in Euro Seoul in Bergen, Damascus
University, Fatah, Al slamming the grand Ahmadiyya mosque in
Damascus, and Masjid Alma who you Dean.
On my right have started Abdul Rahman Hassan, who decided himself
that he did not want to give an extended biography, but he's the
founder of madrasa tool. Maria, an online institution which teaches
students classical books, those are our two debaters for this
evening. They also have on either side of them assistants, we have
other Rashid Han, on the side of Chicago, so all of your brother,
Abu Tamia on the side of
startup man, I will now go over the conditions of the debate. And
the conditions are basically the rules of today's debates. Each
speaker has a copy of the contract and the conditions set out within
them. They can use them to refer to these conditions if they feel
that there's been a transgression on either side, and I will then
mediate if there is any issues, but inshallah everything within
this contract has been read over now.
number of times by both speakers, it's been signed by both parties.
So I'm confident Shala that there will be no transgression of these
rules. So without any further delay, I will now invite shastra
for his first 15 minutes on the definition of the whistle, and
it's the latter
Smilla Rahmanir Rahim
Al hamdu Lillahi Rabbil Alameen wa Taala sadati welcome with the
stream Allah Ashrafi Ambia you say you Lena Muhammad wa ala alihi wa
sahbihi Ultramarine
Allahumma salli wa sallim wa barik ala se rekayasa Dinner Muhammad
Bill Looby whatever you have a new ring I'm sorry what do you have?
What are fear to have done? He was she
was Salah Allah who was selling them our baraka and I'll see you
dinner Manmad Kula mother Kadakia Runa Rafa and Vic rychel Orpheum
to start this debate.
A quick glance for Abdurahman, to contemplate is regarding question
24 point 24. If a question structured with ease, is put to
one's co interlocutor, then it must be responded to with a swift
yes or no. If the questioner then wishes to expand on why or how his
answer is such, then he may do so in a brief and concise manner.
Of course, this
condition was accepted by myself after the party the other party
pressed on the issue. But what we would have to reflect on is that
questions are not always
precede
questions can be composed of the summer antastic. But in Arabic, if
a question comes with Hamza to St. Pham,
and with after Hamza Estefan comes, then the question is
Morocco.
And Morocco is answered with the stick. And the stick cannot be
answered with a simple yes or no.
If the question is withheld, then hull will be composed of the
stick.
Meaning the question would need the stick, because the question
itself is more awkward. Therefore, this is a false dichotomy, a
fallacy in debate that the interlocutor MUST REPLY only with
yes or no. But nevertheless, I signed the
so in this particular case, the
condition has been accepted by myself. But this onset of the
debate, we can notice the mindset behind the opponent's way of
thinking
the opponent
has built on solid principles, and those principles will be debated
today. And the femoral, the fruit
is the belief the Arcada, which a person holds?
Sometimes, a question can be based on curl. When it's based on the
URL, the resultant the the answer of the URL must always be maraca.
Is this not the case? It must be maraca. So when you're You're
welcome, or you're here you have a question for me. Your question
could be based on what happened here, and you expect an answer
which is proceed, which is the soul and not the stick. Therefore,
this condition is flawed, but because of the obstinance of the
opponent. We accepted this condition. But this is a fallacy.
Adnan Rashid, you are familiar fallacies when debating atheists.
This is one of the fallacies of false dichotomy.
Moving on to the definition of St. ratha, which is what was requested
from me.
I have with me Florida to Alphaville Quran
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You have the book.
You open the book on to health.
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I will go full out of them. They use this term in Baghdad for a
Sheikh Abdul Qadir al Gilani and they use the word house so we
check the master of course this is related to the subject of St.
ratha.
A Sheikh Abdullah Qadir jeelani for the Allah one is from your
ancestors, is that not right?
Algeria you from Algeria oil Gilani.
Not can do is that permissible or not? Permissible or not is
permissible? John is sure and I'll go through you are Luffy no strati
while Ray fufill mirpuri was the husk to Huhtala tool Goethe will
read them for our health and emotional healthy. Worker funny
Meenal Heafy what what's terminal ofii? Allah Tala if the story funa
Rebecca the meaning of iftars is in the story sunnah Rebecca
meaning when you seek help from your load from Allah subhanho wa
taala.
What color first Earth first Earth or hula the mean Shia T. V mean or
do we from Surah Toluca says, This is in reference to say Donna Musa
Ali Saddam and the cop and the cop was hitting a person from
Minnesota and he sought help from Sabeena Musa Elisa. And that is
the subject of today that in which close we have a close
here for the debate.
The clause is
clause number seven, the second debater will begin
I should have really been called the first debater because I begin,
the second debater will begin by presenting his evidence in an
attempt to prove that st Lhasa meaning seeking help
of the Prophet alayhi salatu salam is is either fourth obligation
worship essential Mr. Hub desirable MOBA, which you need to
clarify Do you mean the linguistical MOBA have the
machinery that you quoted in our discussion the other day? Or do
you mean the technical MOBA Sharon, please clarify that point?
Right. Give them a pen please and write that point then.
Okay.
So,
here going back to move Rodolfo and father Quran. I hope you've
read this patience today because we're going to go through this
slowly with patients.
What Oh, Lu, Tara, what in your stellar who you love to be in Cal
moly, in Surah two calf, which is regarding an a&r People in
hellfire seeking help seeking water in fact, because the word is
from a Wraith also, and when they seek water Allah subhanaw taala we
ordered the angels to give them water which is like hot oil
for inner who your CFO and COO nominal hazy so he states
that it's permissible to be from a Wraith also, but the the mean that
we are looking at is from HOath.
What can you go through your CFO fee Hill and Alma Anna Yanni will
read through. So the word arrays can mean a lot,
physically can messily very thin, or a gerbil could follow nearby to
suit up to Hadid. So he continued with different citations. But here
because that was related to Al Quran, Allah Kareem and the
meaning of ill health from Al Quran we carry the general meaning
is tolerable health, which is seeking assistance from someone.
So we believe seeking assistance
from Sabena Rasulullah sallallahu. It you earn your solemn is
permissible,
as is mentioned in that clause,
and does not fall on the shelf and Cofer polytheism and disbelief
if you open a new hire to fieri will Hadith he will offer which
I'm sure you brought
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now the name is just very even a theory not a theory.
But you're not allowed to interject.
But the the name is look you disagree on the title cover. And a
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taken over. So here,
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fear Hadith he heard your only smile
or the Allahu anha what Allegiant Sodom for help in Dhaka worth.
So say that tuna Hydra, are they Instagram? What are the Allahu
Allah
was running between Safa and Marwa this is this narration in Sahil
Buhari, and when she was seeking water, she said to Allah subhanaw
taala Do you have any worth meaning someone who can help
meanings, tolerable is the wrath and who came down
See you tonight Gibreel Ali Salam, and Sedna Gibreel Ali Saddam
brought out with the will of Allah subhanaw taala the well of zamzam
famous incident again the meaning linguistically from the Quran. So
previously we mentioned verses from the Quran, like first Earth
and we love image reality. I love living in Adobe, and hear from
Sahil Buhari, which mentioned that the mother of Sabena is married at
a certain
set to Allah subhanaw taala fell in Dhaka, her wealth with faithful
reign for Tulane. So he states Bill 30 calories if he will
kasseri with the customer of the rain, mineral eager 30 What does a
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welfare through fi fi ha SHA don't
women who will Hadith who Allah whom are his snap, so here the
word as alpha UV, when they say you Oh Allah as a listener,
meaning give us support Meenal era 30 Where you call Luffy ratha who
you have Heath who works alone so the same definitions are cited in
the CO Amis like hola como su, Mohit of Alfredo's Abadi and the
sun will rub.
I'll read the name of the author of Blumenthal Rahimullah.
Now,
the clause states, the second debater will begin by presenting
his evidences in an attempt to prove that STRS are seeking help
from the Prophet sallallahu Arneson is either formed wajib
Musa Musa Of course,
the upon attempt to prove that it is shirk and kufr and be done
which is disbelief. Sheikh Polly polytheism and Vida which takes
the person who does this out of the fold of Islam.
So, starting with Sheikh
Sheikh below,
associating partners with Allah subhanho wa taala. My question to
you, or Brockman
is Shirke
mohale Aklan.
Omaha Sharon, the very first question is shirk. mohale UCLan
Omaha, Sharon, this question must be answered in order to negate the
fact that we say
is Diletta seeking help from satan Rasulullah sallallahu alayhi wa
sallam is Musa hub is a desirable action which has been recommended
in Al Quran we carry from the Sunnah of the messenger of allah
sallallahu and from EMR, these are the three sources which we will
discuss, what you will attempt to negate
is that seeking help from the messenger of allah sallallahu
alayhi wa sallam is shirk and kufr
shirk and kufr
for in Quran, Al Quran Karim shirk and kufr in the Sunnah, the Hadith
of the messenger of allah sallallahu alayhi wa sallam, and
share can confer
by each mark by consensus. So in all three sources, it must be
proven to be disbelief. Cofer, a sharp Biller, anyone who does this
is like an idol worship, worship and has
opposed to Hebrew Dubya.
Because you stated in our discussion
that
the polytheists in makan karma,
they affirm Tauheed Rubia.
But they negate it or hate Hulu here. And I said in our
discussion, and that
discussion for those who are unfamiliar prior to the debate,
which is also unlined that anyone who negates store heat,
although here we negate the hydrophobia and anyone who negates
to hydrophobia will negate or heat lluvia so you must define for me
to hate Rob Rob Obeah from Al Quran, Karim. From a sunnah from
Iijima from the Quran from the Sunnah from Iijima. They must not
be anything from any one other than these three sources that
the politics the makan Koroma affirmed or heed Rubia but negated
Tauheed Hulu here. Now
those two questions I will repeat again so you may write them down
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Shirke mohale Sharon are Mohan UCLan and the second question you
must demonstrate from Al Quran carry on from the Sunnah. That is
the wrath of Bina BrdU salatu. Salam is shirk. Billa is kufr
according to Quran sunnah Iijima and
also that Tawheed Rubia was accepted by the Mushrikeen in
Macomb karma. Now I'll give you a point to reflect on
that point to reflect on
is if the Mushrikeen politics Michael McCormack,
where are him established with Dora hydrophobia? Then why would
Al Quran Kareem preached or hydrophobia to them?
Okay, cool mo Al hamdu Lillahi Rabbil Alameen Lola 100 Hassan
with an old Jimmy white shadow Allah Illallah Hua who luxury
Keller the pool will hack our way disabled. We're sure to understand
you then I went to Vienna Mohammed
Ambia if dunya Isola agenda homeo Malkia Murthy Szenen with the
Quran sallahu wa salam ala Who are they who are other early he was
heavy on sada either energy whatever. I thought a hula yo
Medina madad
I'm amazed brothers. I'm amazed with many things in my life. And
today my amazement increased more.
We were waiting for a sorority to give us evidence. That was what
was written on the contract. That astrology has to prove the
permissibility of doing Alistair Arthur
B Nabi to the prophesy sent him about the mounting
sallallahu alayhi wasallam. And what's amazing, he turned the
table and he said to me, I have to prove that it's shirk. Biller,
he'll tell you that
it's amazement that he didn't do that. Just to remind you the
correct way of saying his name is Abdulkadir G Li. Even though he
mentioned that in his Kitab SEER Allah novella, many people get it
wrong. They do still author they call on to Abdulkadir LGD but in
reality, his name is Abdullah Abdullah Cardinal Zhi Li not
Abdulkadir and J. Lani.
I'm what I'm amazed why astrology does, but all of these books.
That's the honest truth will lie I am. And I'm saying this from a
knowledge base. It's not mocking and it's not belittling, from an
angle of knowledge. Because as you all remember, our brother as slow
Rashid has affirmed that he's an ally
of the sorority that you are nationally. Yes. Mashallah. That
question was not a fallacy it was a is are you and he answered with
a yes. Or next questions that he asked. I want it to be like that,
yes or no, you can see the fallacy all of that needed to be used.
So I'm amazed what astrology does actually. Whoa, all these books.
Because according to the sha Allah the Kitab in the Sunnah is not
the Quran and the Sunnah is not a proof.
And I'm gonna bring you guys the quotes of the seller from the
scholars of the Sharia saying that the Quran and the Sunnah are not a
proof
authority, that's one of two choices here Inshallah, in this
discussion and this dialogue, inshallah Allah, he has to prove
to us that he's not an alien denounce the Sharia and then he
can open the Quran and the Sunnah and discuss it with me.
The second is that, he says, No, I stick by my Imams, my scholars
from the Sharia, and the Quran and the Sunnah are not a proof, then
all of these books have to be taken back to where it was brought
from.
I'm going to bring you guys the statements of financial Dena Razi,
who put the stones for Sharia who put it down for them. And sha
Allah stands the backbone of Sharia is for crew de la Razi.
Albury jewelry Ibrahim, Allah Connie and the likes of them,
listen to what he said for dinner was in his Kitab SS with practice,
they says till Candela iliamna. Clear these textual evidences and
let it have a section B in which you have hold it held on it has
Max Tama section Bihar, in which you guys have held on to lace at
copper area, they don't show certainty. The Kitab and the
Sunnah, they don't show certainty. They're not a proof. According to
who, for whom de la Rossi sayfudine and amiduos another
Ashari and I'm a strategy you look up to a safer Deal me the correct
yes, you look up difficulty neurology. Yes. Mashallah. These
are the statements of sayfudine and AirMedia and Christina Razi.
So if you didn't admit, he said, well build a big Joomla. In
conclusion, for today patristic Lally, to use evidences. We had a
debate in Aqeedah been associated with Cora using the Quran and the
Sunnah as evidence, lie accrue to unevenly what does it mean it
doesn't leave doubt and speculation as to the Quran and
Sunnah shows? Well, we're ready to move on it is not enough to use it
in what philia clean yet. Sorry, she's I'm gonna ask you a
question. Is this true?
thing that we're speaking about isn't Arcada
Yes, it's trata do you take single innovations and Arcada? Yes, you
take single innovation Arcada Are you nationally?
Okay, shall I do not take it? You either exit it and you walk away
from it, because the shaders backbone is that they don't take
synchronizations and Arcada because you know why? Oh that
hadith is going to bring on Easter rasa all of them are singing and
narrations there's no metadata they are all singing the narration
so as far as she says it takes single generation anyone who knows
the the arcade of the shadow will know that the shadow stand on
stand on not taking singing the notion they think
multicollinearity and that's one point is shallow to Isla. I'll
leave that there.
I'm now going to define that I don't want my time to finish
without defining
Can you give me any higher inshallah Tana
any higher?
I want you guys to pay attention to this point because this point
is very, very important.
Give me the flow that by Robles Mahony, Rahim Allah you can say it
as us by hand with a bat. Or you can say I'll ask for honey both of
them are correct. With a fair Alright, about both of them
accurate brothers listen to what he did when he was defining it.
You guys are gonna go back to it. I was paying attention I was
paying. And I was making sure I had everything he said. I'll also
you Paulo fineness. rotti.
The word is terasa is when the person requires victory. When does
a person require victory brothers when they're in a time of
hardship? At least academic? Isn't that the case? So when we speak
about Steve Arthur, we're talking about holding on to the prophet at
the time of what
some Allah Allah was saying about what time
the time of that time that the person is going through hardship.
That he said well, I used to feel a motto and then he went on to say
in until you brought the statement of who is tested the throne or a
buck now I want you guys to pay attention to this is very
important, because the strategy did not define vasila which I will
do and that goes against one of the articles of the contract, he
did not define the sealer and he did not tell us what the
difference were. You see, instead of asking my brothers and sisters
who are going to be watching Inshallah, to Allah is you are
calling on to other than Allah who Subhana Allah to Allah and you at
times of what hardship you are calling on to other than Allah
out of hardship, we're seeing that doesn't mean you're calling out to
this individual. You're calling on to Allah, but this individual that
you're you're wanting to get from this person's reputation of this
person's McCalla position, something from Allah that one
you're in Messina Who do you want something from? Allah is the
author who do you want it from?
The person and the thing that you're asking is their answer is
permissible and three things are present.
is still Arthur is permissible one three let me bring you guys the
definition of a Lucila so you know that was healer is not the person
you're asking. I remember self Sahaba type it in and type it
whatever in this is the statement of Qatar determine a diameter sudo
Shirahama hola who is the student of I didn't have that and others.
When he came to the Iota who was Sierra? He said takanobu EDA, he
get closer to Allah. Beta it in his obedience.
Hey, yeah, well, I'm going to be my up and come without which
president this is the coal Listen, not only Qatada Abdullah Hebrew
Abbas Abdullah Hussein su De Bucha aw javelin and pretended to be the
arbiters to see oh four or five of them will see them as well get
closer to Allah with what your actions not a person
when we talk about sila get closer to Allah with your actions and you
know it's amazing brothers and that fascinates me last year on
whether alkalinity doesn't make sense let's share on well it
actually doesn't make sense to go and ask the Prophet salallahu
Salam is something or you have a come with efforts and hardwork law
shall Anguilla Aquila is stuck in not logically and nor does it
stand in terms of in the textual evidences and that's going to come
inshallah to Allah soon. So now we've learned the difference
between what we've learned the difference between a list device
and a tawassul is device that means that you're asking other
than Allah tawassul means you're asking Allah but you want to get
from Allah what? You want to get something from Allah. So we're not
talking about what we're seeing it then for us it's been it's not
even about leucaena our debate is purely about an estate rather,
it's about what at least about is that can you call onto other than
who
can you call on to other than Allah subhanho wa taala. Now what
brothers insha Allah to Allah who are listening to pay attention to
this? And I want you guys to understand this point because it's
very vital.
It's the wrath is permissible as a remarkable especially even among
flora and Johari all of them they bought. If three things are found
you are allowed to do is the wrath of that
Don't say please don't be mean first of all so let me share it
I'll leave you with I'll do it for workers Oh Musa fuckable ally does
not approve against me. If a person is alive you can do is to
refer on them and they are present with you and they are able to do
that thing for you it's permissible
how you don't have the money brother give me a cup of water.
That's Hi. Have you might actually
know I'm just an example
how you have it would be my equity rally is what can I ask that
brother for dinner not about to die? I mean at times of hardship,
I'm going to die if I don't take a water. Let's say I can give me a
water and he gives it to me. Is it permissible? Why yes, because he's
alive number one. Is he with me to
number two, he's with me. Number two, he is what He is with me and
number three, he is what he's able to pull me a cup of water. Nebula
Muhammad Sallallahu cinnabar he's not with us. Because Allah Tabata
Kota Allah said in the camera YouTube Muhammad you are dead
we're in the homie utility with some Allah the cinema, you are
dead and they are going to die. So Allah Tabata, Kota LFM that this
day is going to die it some cinema, some Allah the cinema and
the fact that the prophets of Allah Allah is cinema is dead.
The fact that he's dead, that doesn't mean the status has gone
down. Allah he's up there. He's a messenger sent from Allah Tabata,
Kota, either the best man who ever walked on this earth. My time is
about to finish. I'm just going to remind you another thing brothers,
a Salah, Shibata calligraphic May Allah Kobato dialect Shala guide
me in yourself to the straight path. Can you please bring for us
the ruling the permissibility of enlisted artha? I shall I'm going
to bring you guys bring your evidence to say that it's not
permissible. That wasn't our contract. The contract was he
asked to bring as an evidence to say that you can call on to the
dead, specifically the Prophet after he went into his grave.
alayhi salatu salam? If you don't, then you haven't given us an
answer pertaining to that issue. How long do I have left?
How long do I have left?
I got three minutes left. SR said that the kuffaar of Quraysh. The
issue of the rule will be until Heydo.
Allah Tabata Katana affirmed for conferral courage Amen and he
negated any any place and you mentioned shit for them as well
both of them same time. balita Allah Allah says, well are you
middle axon belie Allah home? Moshiri Khun the majority of them
do not believe you from the Arab pagans except they have shared
with them. Allah affirmed Eman for them and he affirmed for them what
was the Imam that was affirmed for them Eman? Rubia Rubia and the
shift has been affirmed for them here is what actually Oh here, he
said what is who we are those who will be a guru here is as our
Allah Allah has actions, who will be is your actions kuffaar of
Rubia sir is Allah is actions who here is your actions your actions,
confer of Quran Allah says to them, men Halakhah Salah to Allah
Who created the heavens and the earth, whether you agree to hire
middle aged Who's the one who brings the dead out of the grave,
when they use their build armor, who is the one who controls all
the offense for say, a hormone Allah, they say Allah that's to
hit a woman, they find that Allah is the one who controls our
affairs. Allah is the One who gave us life, Allah then Allah said to
the FLN,
do you guys not have piety in you? Do you have taqwa in you? But you
know what they did? They knew Allah was the creator. They knew
that Allah was a sustainer they knew that allows the provider but
when it came to worshiping Him alone, that's what they refused.
Well, that's what they didn't want to do. Now as far as the question
why does Allah Kabbalah what Allah affirm to who do Rubia
if already Qureshi already accepted it, and if that's what
there was with them, this is called Finding common grounds.
It's called Finding common grounds if you confirm this and this is
that then mohale It is impossible that you can't come into here
you're saying Allah created me alone. That okay, why are you
worshiping these idols for them? This is fine. Will you daddy can
read surah toto I'm Julio Coronavirus che in am whom will
Harlequin and then after that. What do you say I'm long in our
Hoonah it Allah.
Allah was trying to say did who created you other than Allah?
Because they will send me an essay? Yes, yes, yes, yes, yes.
And then when it comes to here, no. Later ALLAH, do you have an
Elan other than Allah they don't say.
Last point. This happened by the prophet who will tallow come Kufa
of Quraysh Illa Karima teen Salah in vain and our VEDA come come to
a terms that we both agree on, which is totally do Ruby. Yeah. So
I can convince you we totally do here. Why would the Prophet say
come to something we have common grounds on? I hope I've answered
the question that he's put forward a solid piece onto the question by
telling us where is the ruling brothers? First I'm going to
repeat and remind him and I'm gonna keep reminding him. Where is
that? What's the rolling that you can call on to the Prophet in his
grave? After Allah Allah Salama after he died? evidence we need
from it, whether it's word
a MOBA Mustafa, he won't bring mcru Because he doesn't believe is
mcru He won't bring is haram because we wouldn't have this
debate if it was haram. And so those three can only be worship
MOBA and what?
And Madhu Allah Allah, Allah Allah wa salam ala Sayidina Muhammad
Muhammad Salam Alaikum Darwin Al hamdu lillahi rabbil aalameen
Smilla rahmanir rahim. Your last sentence you said we won't be
having this debate. If this was haram.
If this issue was just haram, and you believe this issue is shirk
and kufr, polytheism and disbelief, that in effect would
mean you would accept someone declaring something which is much
more easily agreed upon, which is upon which there is consensus as
being simply as haram if someone called disbelief, haram or not
Cofer, is your car paid for doing so? Yes or No?
If someone declares disbelief as just being haram and not Cofer,
does he become a Kafir? No.
If he does this Rohatyn say that one will repeat the question
if someone declares disbelief, as not being covered, but just haram,
does he become a coffee or
does he become a coffee?
If someone says,
If someone states that to believe in a partner with Allah subhanaw
taala is not Cofer, just haram by saying so does he become a coffee?
Every coffee is haram. But when you said if we believed it was
haram, we will not be having this debate. Just haram aquifer as
well.
Well, I was telling them in the Haram without without cover.
Exactly. So now you've gone lower to declaring it not be it being
acceptable to declaring it haram is acceptable. If someone says
tawassul Oh is the wrath of Ben abbiati salat wa salam is just is
just Haram is just haram and says it is not covered? Is this
acceptable? Yes or no? Well, that's I don't get the question.
You don't understand the question. The question I'll repeat for the
third time is, according to you, is the ratha with the prophets of
Allah and you see is gopher and shirk, after he's dead. Yes, Cofer
and shirk after he's after he's dead, but here on the close, you
haven't placed that.
Moderator please look at close number seven. The second debater
will begin by presenting his evidence in an attempt to prove
that is the wrath of the prophets. Allah is the first word, Mr.
Herbert MOBA and then eight, the first debater will respond by
rejecting the evidences brought forth by the second the microphone
will then return back to the second there's no close up depth.
You and I both agree that this debacle is going to be often
positive but you're not allowed to talk. I'm pointing this out.
You can answer in your own time. What I'm saying to you I'll repeat
again. If St. ratha is gopher Akbar
is the Rafa crew. Sayonara Sula, solidar unrestrictedly
unrestful unrestrictedly, as is in the close, and after he's passed
away with restriction. If it is Kufa Akbar like wishing
worshipping an idol, and someone says it is not Cofer. It is just
haram easier kafir for saying so. Yes or no?
Honest will lie. I don't understand the question. I'll
repeat again. Look, I'll simplify.
You don't?
You don't understand the question?
If so, this is
I'm trying to if there's an idol worship,
and someone says,
Please,
I'll simplify it for you.
Someone worships an idol. Is your coffee. Yes. Someone a Muslim
comes along and says it's not confer it's just haram. Does he
become a candidate for saying that? This is a part of the
conditions where you still
don't want an answer from them. They cannot and why you break in
the conditions
the one that
started Rockman also asked the audience I'm not expecting
answers. It's I don't know why that I think you should take that
bathroom.
No, not one morning. Just just as speakers you do not resort to ants
asking the audience members question both of you please.
Come on. Let's continue to
start up the Rockman. If there is an idol version,
he worships an idol. A Muslim
comes along and says it is not sure it is not Cofer. It is only
haram, that Muslim does he commit comfort by saying so.
Shook is haram.
So that Muslim who says it is just haram, but not Cofer,
not Cofer.
Then he's wrong in saying so yes. Is your calf here for saying so?
For him, specifically,
that person, give me a hug Come on. Is it coffee? The actions
actually, yes, the person is committed Cofer for doing so.
Okay.
I'm not going to press the question too much. That's not my
style, only repeated myself. So you can understand the question.
Going back to you said, What is the need for a person to seek
help? Or is the rasa from say guna Rasulullah sallallahu.
What except by following him, the Hadith and the Day of Judgment, a
Shiva told Cobra, the major intercession
What did say do not assume Allah He said allah sallallahu some say
shofar Attili al Qaeda even Almighty Mike intercession is for
the people of major sins from my nation, meaning the sinners will
go to the messenger of allah sallallahu Newson for a Shiva tool
Cobra they will do st Rafa seek help meaning intercession that the
messenger of allah sallallahu it was
like the man that asked Satana Musa Islam but now, after this,
you said this is mushroom, this is conditional, it is conditional
that the person be alive. It is conditional that the person be
present it be conditioned conditional that the person is
able to do so. These were the three conditions you placed in
your turn. I want you to present those conditions from the Quran,
from the Sunnah and from the from the Iijima of the Ummah, but
relating to the messenger of allah sallallahu alayhi wa sallam that
verses such as well. If badimo and fusarium Jaya hookah services such
as this first step for Allah was still Farah now mudra tool, such
verses which you are familiar with, that such verses have
decayed, the limitation of the lifetime of the messenger of allah
sallallahu Why do you sell them? Because we believe that ALLAH
SubhanA wa Taala has created ability in the messenger of allah
sallallahu alayhi salam to supplicate for his nation. What is
the meaning of st Rafa through the messenger of allah sallallahu. So
the meaning is that this nation of Islam,
this ummah, has a connection with the messenger of allah sallallahu
sallam, in the dunya in the bursa and in the ark era, the way he
really salatu salam supplicated for his nation on earth, He
supplicate for them in his grave, and he supplicate for them in the
Hereafter, the way he helped them with the will of Allah subhanaw
taala in the dunya. In the bursa, He also asks forgiveness for them
which is a form of helping and in the Hereafter, he's able to do so
because Allah subhanaw taala has created this ability.
If
Allah subhanaw taala has created disability in the messenger of
allah sallallahu is this possible? I asked you again to define shirt
is Schilke mohale Aklan Omaha's Sharon, if you don't do not
understand the terms, the technical terms of Maharsha and
because they too Ashari for you. Then in my turn, again, I will
explain those terms to and let me remind you again,
the debate was not whether I am following the principles of the
Sharia or not in this debate.
Whether I accept Hebrew or had you feed one old cutter.
This is not the debate.
The debate is in accordance with the Shariah, that we gave cannabis
and what
the debate is
whether I can prove is the Rafah
through the messenger of allah sallallahu
after he has passed away or honored, I'm just under
five minutes. Thank you.
Sorry.
So, two questions. I'll repeat the two questions again.
Is
Shirke itself Mohan UCLan, Omaha Charan number one. Number two
can Allah subhanho wa taala? Does Allah subhanho wa Taala have the
Qudra ability to create
in the Messenger of Allah so low to the ability to help in the way
he helped on earth or not? Oh is this impossible? Is this most of
the heat? This these are two questions which I need answers on.
As for the verse without a noun a bottom this verse in Surah Nisa,
Doc Allah
this verse, we believe in in accordance with the car that you
mentioned the rule that you mentioned
in our previous discussion, what was the rule and are able to do
your mommy loves laugh Susie sub
Lulu because Susie sub
does this started to apply to this vessel not and is this worse
Mukluk arm Mottola cos
is it mocha yet? And when you present the tequila
for this verse, you must present the topic from Quran from sunnah.
And from Iijima
Quran to knowledge man
with regard to Taksim of shirk and Taksim of Tawheed
because a tip is if you don't Taksim of Tawheed, you would end
up in effect doing Taksim of shake also, because there would be a
different constellation of different Tauheed you will
automatically commit different types of shirk. This Taksim, you
must demonstrate you must demonstrate that there is humor on
this and not that you are a mocha lead.
A blind follow in creed. Not like Akhmad readercon. Rahimullah being
mocha Khalid Abu Hanifa, with your vice debater misunderstood. He's a
leader of Abu Hanifa in furrow not in Aqeedah.
And the same with ignore Abdeen. He's a leader of Abu Hanifa in
furrow which is that he didn't go through rational law he states the
differences between the four schools are around 20% You must
show you are not a mockolate of Akhmad when Tamia in the Taksim of
Tawheed truth is the crawl into bore
is the crawl into top door which are Montek terms. I don't know
your position and one tip, whether you believe one tip is haram or
not. But if unless you meant is to look at and not be still and true
is the crowd at the top bar. You must demonstrate that Taksim of
Tawheed is Muhammad Ali and all the scholars of Islam agreed upon
this Taksim, they, again also with Iijima in our discussion, you said
that I follow Jim more majority that you do not follow Jim hood
and remote is not good job.
So how do you define Iijima? Do you define Iijima as a Jim hood
position? Or do you define each mark in accordance with the odd
aquatic different aquatic because there's different statements
regarding how we even define each mark? How we even define each mark
if you check the works of which you will again use a Sheree books
like I made these earlier. This book what is his book in Seoul
fake alikom you will use his work you will use Al Mustafa of Imam
Ghazali Ashanti you will use different words of the Sharia law.
These are Sharia scholars.
If they believed and I say with the clothes if
if they believed is the Rafa is permissible seeking help from the
messenger of allah sallallahu uses does it make them shrieking?
polytheists and if not, why? Why are they not polytheists? Why is
Ali mama Sookie not declared you said in our discussion that his
shirk which according to his shark and she found sea palm
is in fact mocha will this is the term you used his his book and his
position is mocha when you would have to define those principles.
Why is it why would subkey you have become a will but you're more
saline people in the OMA today when they do is the last likely
mom Sookie or follow the position of Lehman subkey why are they not
looked at a will? And what do you mean by Malta? When do they fall
into shirk or do they fall into Bidda or do they fall into haram
shirk must be mutually agreed upon by consensus by the entire ummah.
If there is sure is something which every Muslim scholar must
agree that this this action is shirked, you cannot establish each
mark of domicile and
estiga istilah has specifically its devices specifically through
the Messenger of Allah so Allah What do you see as being a shark
and Muhammad Ali through all the different scholars from the Hanabi
Allah from the show after even if you say they are moto Irene
latecomers, you must show it is a much more of a position of a sort
of masala Hoon now before my time finishes
now
it seems to me that so far she does not want to answer my
questions.
And my questions clearly was simple. To the point, I asked a
simple question I said, Why are you carrying all of these books?
Because me and Estrada we can save him a lot of time of having to
even discuss any topics. We don't have to open a book, a salary
sheet. According to him the Ashara hold the opinion that the Quran is
based upon speculation. The Sunnah, is based upon speculation,
this is the view of who listen, these are the rules. These are the
heads of Ashara
which he has to either denounce or just agree with. So SR shouldn't
use any book from the coattails of Omaha to see the Buhari Musa widow
attributed imagine they say he shouldn't open the Quran because
he quoted the IRA, although unknown environment and first of
all, cafestol for Allah wa salam rasool Allah, Allah however,
Rahima, he wouldn't have to use those verses, you know why?
Because for him, from the very creed is that it's what? These are
the NI, they're all speculation and assumption.
Please, when your turn comes, put that statements of those Imams of
the Sharia, put it somewhere.
Explain it to us. What do they mean by it? Why do they say that
the Quran is speculation and assumption. That's one thing that
we need to find an answer for. It saves us a lot of time. We could
all go home and not debate. That's very important brothers because
we're wasting our time on a basis that doesn't exist. This is
something you need to understand.
Now this explains a lot of things for you. Which is why he asked the
question. It shipped Maharsha Anna Lachlan, which actor Are you
referring to? For the record? This is I can't do this ugly, you're
awkward. Awkward. Which are you referring to? It's very important.
It's a very good question. They say to Apple, whose Apple Do you
want to use? Because they do the font we didn't realize he didn't
agree of how many degrees we didn't agree with.
Everybody had his own icon. So when you say shift, I can learn
which Accola you referring to shoulder when it's your turn prove
that to me be the new life carry? You will have that turn, even
Allah he will kill you.
You also mentioned to me Does Allah does Allah have the ability
Subhana wa Taala to give the prophets of Allah Azza wa sallam
to do is to Rata and nourish eat dairy as well. And other brothers.
They debate with atheists, right? And these are one of the arguments
that the atheists put forward. Is God able to do a create a bigger
rock in which he can't carry? It's an argument really in its essence
is the question itself is what? Incorrect? My answer, inshallah to
Allah I'm not going to go around it Oh, no. I'm going to simply
answer this question, first of all, Rashid and say to him, a
surah. Allah is Able and he chose not to do it.
Allah is Able to do that. And he chose to not give the prophets of
Allah selama that ability to help the people in the grave. This is
not on the baby brothers, we have to understand the issue that we're
talking about. Is Is Allah able to or is it not? Is a point that we
need to take home? Can the prophets Allah Allah Allah, Allah
benefit this OMA the benefit that we're referring to is what?
What benefit are we referring to? Neff earner, they be a benefit as
Rabee a benefit that is what
a benefit that is, they be an unseen benefit.
Okay. Is the Prophet sallallahu alayhi wa sallam the ayah that he
brought he brought the Iolo unknown invaluable and foster
home. Well unknown
is whether or not home is vulnerable and for some, I'm
asking you a simple question. The word is in the Arabic language. is
it used for a past tense or is it used for a future
very good in this in the sea in the context that is in the eye? Is
it a past or is it future?
past or future? Which of the two
okay, can you give me the challenge?
Let's go to the
Joker, first of all federal law was so foreign to him rasuluh La
Jolla to wherever Rahima
and this is first of all, the first point that the word is used
here in the Arabic law
which the word if is, it is bottle fully Ma Ma is used for a past
tense
is used for a. Rather I'm gonna go so deep and saying shallow to
either at the head deck. I dare you to bring me the word used as a
future that uses a future that had that from the Quran. The word is
always, always a past tense. Something else in the context
makes it a present or a future but the word is always a past.
Some of the grammarians they say the word well Otara even moody,
Mona Farah, Marathi Marathi if you see that, the criminals the word
is used here and they said it's so it shows the future even though
itself is questionable. You know why it's questionable? Because the
word karma is what's changed the meaning. A lot of them have made
use of just a hula halen the word Atacama life and I just started
you know atta is it past or the future
or
is it past or future
lunch
now that was a part of the condition class a yes or no? Okay,
okay okay I'll ask you is a typist
option to say no you don't because we signed the contract is at our
past
he's not he's not obliged to answer yes or no though is
stipulated in the contract which is signed which means he can
answer it in 15 minutes, okay. I find it as a hurdle running away
from the answer.
Okay inshallah Allah and we Inshallah,
but the word utter is a past tense, but Allah says Allah
Subhana Allah Allah, Allah, Allah, Allah Allah. Allah Allah Allah
Allah Affairs has come Fela dischargeable meaning the day of
judgment has come. And attack is a past tense word. The word doesn't
change from being past. The word does not change from it's been
past. But the meaning that it has is that the day of judgment, the
word if is the past tense. And, you know, the reason why we're
established as a past tense, is because this is referring to when
the Prophet was alive. Some Allahu Allah was Salomon. Brothers, I
want to ask you guys a question. I'm going to ask you guys a simple
question. If this ayah is saying to us that we should ask the
Prophet sallallaahu Selim if we go to his grave every time so Allah
the cinema, why did the Sahaba is not understand it like that? Why
did it really matter? Go to it when I best the I'm Ramallah did
the day of the drought and say due to passive Abdulmutallab, sorry.
Remember the Allah Allah made us a best thing that I've done
mortality to make dua for him. I'm Ramadan, the year the year of
what? The year of the drought? Why didn't he say the prophet is
there? We can go to him and we can get it from him. I think salatu
salam that shows us what the fact that they didn't do it. The fact
that they, they didn't do it. Number two, number two, the
Prophet salallahu SallAllahu sallam, this idea he's using Well,
oh, well under home environment, whenever they commit a sin. If
they don't come to the Prophet to ask for forgiveness, or they come
to the Prophet to ask for forgiveness, then Allah will
forgive them. That's what he is saying. Right? The Prophet clearly
said, Allah, Allah to Allah, Allah who may Allah, Allah Cabri that
Allah do not make my cover a place where you people always are
coming, and they just always over my grave, oh Allah don't make it.
The prophet is seeking refuge from Allah, that his grave is not like
this. So if every time a brother committed a sin, if he went to the
prophets grave, then the whole universe will all be going at the
prophets grave Allah here salatu salam, and they will be asking for
the Prophet to ask Allah forgiveness for them. Brothers and
sisters, all of those evidences show that the idea has to be
understood how the Sahaba is understood it. This is the problem
that we're seeing people who want to come and they want to comment
on the Quran based on their understandings. This guidance this
is where it occurs. Corruption this is where it occurs. We have
to surrender our understanding to the pious predecessors was sabe,
Kunal Walloon, Amin and mohajir in a one on sorry, we're living in a
toddler room and those who follow them in good or may you Shaka
Rasool amoeba demotivated. Allahu Houda. Were telling me the meaning
and we'll leave him at our law. Honestly, he Johanna masa
atmosfera understanding the Quran and the Sunnah, how the Sahaba
understood it, Abdullah said men can withstand and failure standard
women can be met. If anybody wants to hold on to something hold on to
the ones who died, the Sahaba is and how they understood it. And
this is where the corruption comes. And you know, all these
arguments that he's bringing, they're not new to me.
Because the books that he's getting it from I've already got
them. I've read them I went through them subkeys arguments
Muhammad Musa Adel Abdul Hamid Zahedan poetry has an ally circuit
that books are over here for me. There she will have oh honey beta
uncovered, those doubts are weaker that
the spider web
so my brothers and sisters my brothers and sisters are going to
be watching a shout out to Isla is these ayat are not an evidence for
for Stellata to according to the Prophet sallallahu alayhi wa
sallam in the grave to to forgive. And my brothers and sisters How
long do I have? I have five minutes that's good. Baraka give
me an my when I head over here,
my brothers and sisters, we have the profits of
Hola Avada Kota Isla they're all going through times of hardship.
They're going through what?
They're all going through times of hardship nebula he knows how to
use Salaam. He goes on to his road.
We find nebula he unis Ali Salaam in the middle of the route in
Corozal nobody except Allah automatically to Allah. We find
our prophet muhammad shah sent me the Battle of better in the battle
of words he the armies are coming they're meeting the better all of
them it yesterday Solara Baku festa Jr welcome me when we do
come crying to Allah lifting his hands up until Abu Bakr Radi
Allahu Allah and who said the cloth was falling off of him. And
the Prophet sallallahu alayhi salam was telling you about
Muhammad, a messenger of Allah, don't worry, you're gonna get what
Allah is promising you for. So the two hours done to Allah alone
brothers. In simple terms, the debate here is the people on the
right are saying let's only call Unto Allah The people on the left
are saying let's cool onto other than Allah How does that even
sound from the get go? It doesn't sound correct. I'm saying
wonderful massage Italy life a letter from Allah Hatton. I'm
saying Allah Allah woman, Abba, Lumi, Mejia Rumi Duni ly malaria
stretchy Hula, hula Yeoman Kia to whom I do I'm laughing. I'm saying
Allah alone. Leave him his rights. The Prophet has a right to be
followed. So Allah Azza wa sallam, he has a right to be honored. He's
not like us, He's greater than each and every one of us. But that
being said, he has no right in Judea. Servitude is not for him,
how to have Allah. This is the rights of Allah. Don't give it to
anyone else. So just please simplify the concept in your mind
and understand it. The people on the right are saying to Allah,
Allah should be worshipped in servitude he should be only called
on to and the people on the left are saying to you know,
so should the prophet be called on to with Allah and the prophets of
Allah. They certainly say laptop Rooney, come on ultra thin nasaga
Lisa bloomery of don't go overboard on me. Just like the
Christians went overboard on nebula ASAP nobody. Allah said to
the people before Yaya living. Yeah, hello Kitabi lotta goofy.
Did you come while at the Quran? Allah Allah Who
are the People of the Scripture? Don't go extreme in your religion.
And don't say about Allah Kovarik with Allah which you have no
evidence for? Wellness you have no money. I'm ala Rasulillah cosmic
company RUSAL. A sub Gnomeregan is nothing except a messenger
previously before him other messages have come Where did the
Christians go wrong? And where did the Jews go wrong? And goofing off
of him going extreme on the righteous people. This is where it
what I'll do that as
well as on the web and water sewer and what I have moved away from
the five righteous men to Abdullah Abdullah Abdullah Hypno our best
mentions in his Kitab Ettore bodybuilding ketone body. Rahim
Allah Allah Allah, Allah Allah can you see that Jasmine rockin? This
is all to show you my brothers, that the argument is from the get
go does not go right. It does not make sense. A Surah Rashid Assad
Danila er May Allah guide you and myself to the straight path and
the Allah keep a steadfast upon that path. Please answer the
questions that are directed at you the question that I asked you, the
Usher era do not take the Gnosis Allah Hara, the apparent evidences
as a proof for themselves. So this point, you cannot move forward. If
not, then I don't see why we're carrying an argument, a person
who's believes or a methodology that believes that the apparent
evidences are not a proof except that they show doubt
Inshallah, to Allah. And I'll, how many minutes do I have? I have two
more minutes my
presentation of the
shallow talent.
points I wrote here.
He brought the issue of the shuffle the Day of Judgment,
shuffle of the day of judgment that the professor Allison is
going to do for his Omar Ali salatu salam, my brothers, let's
go back to my my three points that I mentioned before. What did I
say? How you say it with me brothers, how you and how they
don't do my epidural? Are they he alive?
He's with you, and you're able to do it, the Day of Judgment? Are we
with the Prophet in that life? Are we living together that life?
We're living that life together? Are we all together? We're all
together? Are we asking the prophets answers that Salah isn't
something he's able to do? Of course, he's able to do it, Ali
salatu salam. So he's going to intercede for us because Allah
told us he's going to do it for us. He's been given the rights to
do intercession. So he will do that for us. We're talking about
the argument is, you're in this world and the prophesy. Selim is
in his grave, he's dead, and you're speaking from higher to
dunya to the Hyattsville Barza this is what needs in evidence
and inshallah Allah, the word Hayyan hazard would be my actual
Allah He requested me to bring a proof from the Quran and Sunnah,
right? Allah says what, what that kind of Medina is Allah hinted
earlier forward to the pharaoh Delaney after Theologica
demonstrate it Well, first of all, so let me show it live even before
because the whole Mustafa Ali, the nebula he moves the man faster
Arthur everyplace is that is used in the Quran is referring to how
you have there will be mechatronic nothing else.
Every place that he came in is how you and how to do my attorney.
That's why we're arguing Where are you guys bringing it from?
Other than these three, the evidence is on your neck SR sheet
to bring us when it's not how you have it and be more active. We
have a proof for that. So let me share it. I live in an RV. So what
kinds of Musa Musa was alive, Musa was with him and he asked him was
that what he was able, okay?
Time is full of Baraka
Smilla Rahmani Raheem, just to pick up on the points that were
made. Firstly, the side point regarding Gilani and Julie. I
think your co debater abou Tamia goes by the name Gilani, so you
should correct him first. Secondly, the second point that
was made in Nicoma, you tune in now who made the tune? What is the
correct meaning of this verse?
That the messenger of allah sallallahu Sallam should pass away
from this world? If you check the meaning of the word Mei Yi tune
Pitesti Delia, when the word may you turn on this particular form,
means that I moved to that you should pass away and what is the
very definition of mode moussaka to Rohi and just the Separation of
the soul from the body. And this happens after this as the martyrs
letter seven named Avena cootie Luffy, subby Lila he and water
been here on Endora beam Yusaku that do not consider those who
have
been killed in the way of Allah subhanaw taala as dead they are,
are alive and with the Lord they are being sustained. This
sustenance and being alive is Hey Al higher toolbars are here, which
we establish also fro MBR and the human salat wa salam ala Gambia
here Kobudo him, you saloon, you saloon, this yo saloon will also
consist of a stick for Rasul for his ummah, this messenger of allah
sallallahu Sallam seeking forgiveness for his nation in the
grave. So, at this point,
you also mentioned going back to Qudra, to Allah that you said,
Allah subhana wa Taala is able to make his messenger salah, why do
you serve them benefit or
assist from the grave for his nation, that Allah subhanaw taala
has Qudra over this, in effect, you have said that Allah subhanaw
taala has divine power of creating Shirke because if, if you leave
the statement that the messenger of allah sallallahu alayhi wa
sallam is able to help in the grave as being shared. Then,
McLaughlin with that collude, and these collude that you've
mentioned, we would say, This is why the question is relevant. Do
you consider Shirke as being mohale UCLan Omo hielscher And
it's related to Qudra to Allah Divine Power of Allah subhanaw
taala. That if you believe it's Mohammed UCLan, then Allah
subhanaw taala does not create another partner because a partner
for Allah subhanahu dallies, Mohammed UCLan, rationally
impossible, low can a female early her tune in LA Allahu la festa
data, if they were in the heavens and the earth, a god other than
Allah, the heavens and the earth would be in chaos. This in effect
would mean that this is rationally impossible. In the same way
anything you declare as being shocked, would be Mohan UCLan have
answered the question for you. But which position do you take? Is it
Mohan Apollon more hotshot? And then
you did say that the messenger of allah sallallahu alayhi wa sallam
has another own AB Yun Nefarian Rabee Yun, which is benefit from
the unseen. So in our previous discussion, you said that the made
law your daughter of Allah, in fact, does not harm and does not
benefit. But now you've accepted that the messenger of allah
sallallahu lucem does give some benefit. So how have you
contradicted your previous rule that you said that they made this
rule does not benefit, you're going to add a clause to this,
that if Allah subhanaw taala sustains the dead in a certain way
and gives him some kind of benefit, he is able to benefit
this close, you would have to accept me otherwise you take back
your statement that the messenger of allah sallallahu alayhi wa
sallam benefit and this Nefab Rabee this benefit from the unseen
does this mean that the messenger of allah sallallahu Ulsan when he
gives some kind of benefit, does this mean that
that he is hard. They're here. No. Does this mean he's alive here
net? No. So you've gone against your conditions for someone to
benefit for the death benefit, they must be present, they must be
able to, they must be alive on earth. Those conditions are not
met because we believe the messenger of allah sallallahu
Sallam is not present here, he is buried in Al Madina, Munawwara in
his grave, and he prays for his ummah, this is the whole meaning
of st life. And then
you mentioned Eve, the word Eve, that it only comes for the past
tense in the verse Willow unknown if badimo that this is only for
the past tense, in effect, you've said that this verse is Min Soo,
an abrogation that the verse has been abrogated meaning it was only
limited to a time and then it stopped. Now I'll ask you to use
your mind. The event of Surah to Nisa, which is mentioned in the
chapter, the event in Surah Nisa regarding the hypocrites. They
didn't go to the messenger of allah sallallahu alayhi salam to
seek forgiveness and ask him to ask Allah to ask forgiveness.
There was an event that took place after this event took place in
these verses were revealed. Was it permissible for them to go back to
the messenger of allah sallallahu Sallam after this event? Meaning
could they do this throughout the life of the messenger of allah
sallallahu. If you say yes, they could do this until the messenger
of allah sallallahu Ellison passed away, then the verse is not
limited to the past. It has an application up to the passing
away, according to up to the passing away According to us,
until they have judgment and beyond that the messenger of allah
sallallahu intercedes for his nation, in this dunya in the
bursa, in the era of this intercession continues, because he
has the life of the prophet, he has life in the grave, the life of
the prophet,
then, I would advise you also that to recheck Makani Labib, where he
gives you examples evolution, rational Allah, where he gives
examples of the word Eve coming for future check the Mokhtar
Saurabh Salah Hello thymine of McKinney Labib. I didn't bring you
with me, but in there you will also find that he is bizarre,
which is one good book which he wrote in the easy volume. He gives
examples like if he volley Munna fever murottal mode. This is an
example that when the people who will be the wrongdoers will be in
the pangs of debt meaning in the future. So this point doesn't
stand even though Salah Halothane makes the same point regarding the
west from which you have done taqlid.
You also mentioned regarding a sharp era and the UK. And you said
which dark love Razi the UK club? Because the early I'll answer this
point. I mentioned to you in our discussion that we do not do the
lead of the scholars when it comes to creed. We follow the Iijima. So
if there are few views of certain Ashara, which we do not agree
with. We cite them as being Santa hat the way you Excuse me, ma'am.
subkey, you said aluminum suitcase muta will, he's interpreted you
now you haven't given the reason. The same way. If there is a
scholar who makes a slip in a book, the way you would excuse
even Potamia for being believing in Santa Ana, that the Hellfire
will come to an end or you make that willful it will take him
believing for now not I am not bringing the side points to you.
So you should not do the same. Because then we will go into the
books of ACMA maintaining this why abroad are much more apt to fatawa
you said Why have you got these books? They're not all Ashari
books. There's much more to fatawa we're gonna take me here also.
After this, you said if tawassul after the passing away of the
Messenger of Allah salAllahu Alaihe Salam was permissible. Why
did save an hour of the Allah who can do tawassul to say donor
Abbas, I asked you did say the number of the Allah Who negate the
WOSU truths, it's a donor Rasulullah sallallahu will bring
me one statement of segura. Oh my god Allah who and where he said it
is impermissible now, it said number of the Allah knows the
Imam, meaning the Khalifa. The Khalifa has the option to have
certain people lead the prayer and also to use them as a means to
Allah subhanaw taala. This question I believe you will not be
able to answer in this debate is that our definition of shirk is
that anything is Sherk is not associated with being alive or
dead. If the Hindus worship Rama, if they worship Rama, if he was a
real human being when he was on alive on Earth, it is shirk, when
he died, it is shocked when he if he is when he is resurrected on
the day of judgment and the worshipping. It is shirk. shirk is
always Shirky, you cannot make this distinction because you
believe it's possible for Allah subhanaw taala which we believe
Allah subhanaw taala has created within the messenger of allah
sallallahu to intercede what
we mean by intercede in his grave the DUA, the supplication. Then,
at this point regarding condition seven, read condition seven new
said, the second debater will begin by presenting his evidence
in an attempt to prove I have to refer back to these conditions I'm
sorry, improve the health of the profit margin. There was no limit
of alive or dead. You didn't place that easy slip of the mind you
should have placed alive or dead. So come on the stage and say is
the lava is allowed when the props are large and most alive. So it's
allowed allowed when he was alive on Earth. It shook when he's in
Berserk say this, it is share when it is in Burdock. And in the
hereafter you believe it is alive. So if its share conversa shirk is
always shake, it is not related to life and death. If a person
worships someone, he worships them on Earth and the kuffar worship
them in the hereafter also. Then you cited the Hadith in the Sunnah
loveable doubt, which is Allah mulata JAL Cabri Eden Oh Allah do
not make my grave and eat a celebration. Regarding this. We
know that the supplications of the prophets Allah Masada a monster
job, what we mean by Mr. Job, they are answered by Allah subhanho wa
taala. And Allah subhanaw taala has not made the grave of the
messenger of allah sallallahu alayhi salam, a place of worship.
For 1400 years, there have been Muslims who is the law through the
messenger of allah sallallahu sallam, you know for yourself that
the likes of Ebuka fear, having data under the West hello and now
evaluate even though I'm not presenting him cathedra as proof
as you keep mentioning scholars when we said we agreed not to
mention scholars from after the first three centuries of Islam.
All the scholars, if they understood is the ratha is through
the prophets in his Higher, higher Tuberosa. Here his birth life is
shirk. They would never have promoted, shirk in their books,
they would have taken those accounts out or they would have
cited them and said afterwards. This is shocked and this Amel by
Iijima consensus of the Muslim nation is Cofer and disbelief. But
we find otherwise in the books that they cited and sometimes they
even praise it and some of them as we will see, some of them even
praise the action. But then also regarding this Allah Allah Allah
azza wa jal Calibri Eden regarding this point, if it means to visit
the messenger of allah sallallahu alayhi salam regularly, as you
would interpret it, then we observe that the grave of the
messenger of allah sallallahu Sallam is visited on a regular
basis by numerous people. What is the meaning of Eat, eat only comes
twice a year, the shadow and eat don't go back to the moldy debate
to the Shatter eat the shadow eat the to eat only come twice a year,
meaning Oh Allah do not make people read. And this is that will
which you may disagree with. But scholars upside to this, that do
not make my grave such that the nation does not come and give me
Saddam and they do not recite Salam upon me from far. This is
the exact meaning like lethargy, RW tekun cobertura result of work
where
I said Cobra, abdominal cough purpura.
So, after this, the O Allah do not they had these states. Do not make
your houses into graves, meaning recite prayer in their houses, in
the same way, recite Salah words and salam upon the Messenger of
Allah Subhan Allah in some abundance, this is the correct
meaning of the Hadith. It does not mean don't go to the grave of the
messenger of allah sallallahu Sallam and give him Saddam, as
some people say is impermissible. Then
after this, another point, which you mentioned was regarding high
hardware and Qudra high hardware and Qudra. Living, present unable
these were the conditions you mentioned. You didn't seem bought
from Al Quran, Kareem Are you a much to hit? Are you able to do
his thing but who done this thing but was this somebody done by a
seller for Salah hungry they said for someone to do is tiga the
person must be high and harder and
harder Ali if a by the way, we believe the messenger of allah
sallallahu is high, higher and higher toolbars are here. And you
said he benefits his nation. You have to clap it clarify these two
points. How does he benefit if he's made it in the sense that you
mean me it and you also admit that the messenger of allah sallallahu
Sallam is alive in his grave? But how dare this short and meaning
present physically on earth which we don't believe in? We believe
the messenger of allah sallallahu Sallam is buried in his grave.
How do you said Hey, how did uncodified
i lay you don't use steam but you make these conditions yourself, or
are you being knocked? Are you copying from the EMR? Is the EMR
on this? Can you cite the EMR? Can you show that you're dramatic? Can
you demonstrate the EMR?
Now, the reason why you avoided the condition, the question
regarding is a Shirke, mohale Aklan or more HealthShare. And
what did you say? You said this is the kind of question eight is
asked, Can God create another God? I will answer that for you. The
mohale does not fall under Qudra. The mohale does not fall under
Qudra, meaning the Divine Power of Allah subhanho wa Taala does not
relate to impossible things and shirk. Okay, we'll continue with
that kind of stuff. Now.
Again, as long as she
had Danila er, May Allah guide him and myself to the Huck, we find
that he just sidetracked with the statements of Medina Razia will
join any and all of them will be Julie and push it, push it that
pushed it aside. And he said, it's almost also Maha. I'm now going to
turn the tables on him. And when I say to him, bring me one person
from the Usher era, because he said within the Usher era, there
are an opinion that he's taking, and he's leaving off the
statements of fact, Regina Razi, I'll join and be duly Lakhani,
Brahim Allah corny, but it could have been a mockery but back
learning it before you leave in these six Imams, all of them said
it. If you're gonna be all of them, you need to state for us in
your next turn, Inshallah, to Allah, who from the Usher era said
that the Quran and the Sunnah are a huge a proof and it does not go
if it goes against the intellect
and the Hubbard had,
that the textual evidence is, let me rephrase that question for you
are getting shebang to Allah. So everybody is aware of what I'm
asking that the law hero no source, the apparent text, law,
you feel do one need, that the apparent text do not benefit or
speculation you need to bring that statement from the Ashara that
lie you feed to one knee, they don't show doubt or speculation.
When you're asking the knee if they're saying it's about
philosophy. When it comes to your turn, you need to bring us from
the Ashara when it comes to correct, you got your turn when
you tell your character Charlottetown if you feel like
what you have is right. When it comes to your turn, from the Usher
era, you have to bring us who said from the apparent text, the
apparent text, the Kitab and the Sunnah, does not show speculation
and doubt. I brought Imams that said it from the Usher era, you're
either head butting your shadow leaders, because the reason why
I'm bringing this point Brothers is not sidetracking what our
bootcamp has not started tracking, you know why? Because he would not
have troubled himself in carrying these books. If they were what if
they were a proof? The reason why he brought these books in the
first place is because he's using it as a evidence. I shall no don't
believe that. They don't believe that. And this is a very important
point. So I want a Satoshi to leave this room denouncing Sharia
and say I've got nothing to do with the Sharia. I am a Salafi
From today onwards. And I think the Kitab and the Sunnah be fairly
solid facade. Another thing he did was that shows my point is when he
came to Shirky said we believe that Shopkins the question that
arises okay, I said at the beginning was Serbia Kunal
Awolowo. Nominal mohajir. In our Ansari, we're living room.
Laptop will hold a laser can be self don't say statement which you
don't have a cell phone. This is where the problem is arising from
serratus problem is here. He's saying I mean, and this gives him
the statement of the mujtahid. If the rasa Han is not a mujtahid,
then you imply that you're in which state that you can actually
come and define words and had bought the statements of the IMA
to lower what they define the ship and the likes of it. Sargi wala is
Milonga TV makan. This is something that amazes me. He said
in the camera YouTube or in normal YouTube. He said that the prophesy
assume is not dead. Alia salatu salam, the Prophet sallallahu
alayhi salam is not dead because of the ayah in the camera YouTube
or in the homemade YouTube I'm going to ask you guys a couple of
questions if shallow to Allah rhetorical questions. Okay. He
said that the prophesy sentiment the word may it is more Farakka to
erode. The soul is leaving the body
pay attention to this if the prophets of Allah they cinema is
living this word if the he hasn't died and he's not dead. Then why
is the prophet cinema? Aliya? Salatu Salam, why did the Sahaba
is not consulted in all of their daily day to day affairs? Why did
it not consult him? And if he was not dead, led salatu salam then
wasn't his job to convey the message of Islam. When he died?
The message stopped. Then the Prophet then that would entail
that he died Alicia salatu salam and he left this world and he's
still alive but he's not he's not doing his job because Allah
commanded him Yeah, you are sort of velvet mountain zealot. robic
or messenger of Allah convey that which is upon you. So the fact
that he wasn't conveying shows
knew that his time has finished and yolmer today are committed to
the Kadena come today I've completed your religion on your
meaning, it's finished, I've gone I'm not able to do that anymore.
Because the reason why he was in this world allergy salatu salam
was to convey the religion. Another point, if you say that the
Prophet salallahu Salam is not dead, at ISA to Salam is not dead,
then that'd be the process, I was gonna go through three deaths.
You're gonna go through this is a very powerful point that you have
to realize that human beings have two deaths, one that we went
through when we when we were born, which is the death that we went
through no existence, and then when death comes to us another
death. Okay, the prophets of Allah, Allah selama. Is he going
to die when the trumpet is blown if he's still alive, and they use
Allah to celebrate in the hoof also, if the trumpet are blown, is
that when he's going to die? Are you salatu salam
and why would you just have it? He said, That Irma, the Allahu Allah.
He said, Omar did not say that you can't do is devata
festival that question Should it be put to me? It's your question,
what is tawassul? You haven't defined the water also as if you
had Has anyone heard him defined? tawassul was not one of the most
important points pertaining to the debate, which was what he has to
define tawassul enstella Delete. Until now, we don't know what he
what he considers to tell us all. We don't know what he understands
is tawassul. But that being the case, that being the case, he said
the rumor prevent the Sahaba or did he stop them from it? Brothers
pay attention to the context of what Ramana did the day of the
year of Ramadan, when he called on Abdullah in advance pay attention
to this. The Sahabas were in a drought where the animals were
dying. Humans were dying.
Abdullah Omar Abdullah and at this point where some of these noble
companions are going, some of them are dying, would he waste his time
in something that's less than degree when he could see the
profit and he could get it quicker? Are they in salatu salam
he's got the Prophet that he can go to him he can get it from the
prophet and he can saw all of this out. But he chooses not to go the
Sahaba is leaving something is because there was no evidence for
them to do this. And the revive the Aslan is totally free. Yeah,
the rebounder is that you can't do it unless you have a lot of
evidence for it. So you're saying that you can you're saying that
you can't do this action. We want your evidence from you. It's upon
your shoulders to provide us that you can go to the people in the
grave and ask them this is your job not my job. My job is this my
job is that the prophets of Allah the righteous people they all run
to Allah all of them party but and I'm gonna bring you yet from other
beer Russo pay attention because the time is very short. I won't be
able to explain it but inshallah if not allows me when this video
is edited, just put the translation of the ayat at the
bottom so that people can see it. That's it. Allah says about nebula
who are in New Shula, which had to add liberi only to Shikun we do
refer ki duniya Jami so Mellotron the rune in liturgical to Allah,
Allah robiola, or become me debating Allahu Akbar luminosity
in Nairobi, Alison optimal stockin nebula who is running to Allah, we
find nebula Ibrahim, I'd be happy to hook Manuel Hackney beside him,
which led Santa Ciprofloxacin which led me was it Jannetty name?
Well, Phil, the Abbey in the Academy of Berlin. Well, I took
you to Yama you've as soon as I remember when a balloon 11 Atala
has been studied we have nebula he
Ibrahim again when he took his family to the where the the valley
he ran. He called on to Allah He Surat bij Alhamdulillah Bella
Ramadan what you know blueberry Allah Buddha Asana, we see nebula
How are you been? The Han touched him he said where are you but even
Adela bow and me masala millennial guru or hamara he mean, faster
Jabon Allahu fascists. Now maybe he mean buring when it you know
Allah when Mr. Mohammed, Mohammed Salman and Dena was it currently I
mean
RBD nebula unis Ali salaam where the newly
nebula us where the moon is, even further Allah Nikita Ali Fernandez
Almighty Allah Allah Allah subhana Kinnikuman of Alameen first
hegemony Hello, when a gentleman from New York, Connecticut Eugene
mumineen My point is, you're gonna get all those profits. I mean,
what are you kidding me? All of them calling to Allah alone,
because that was their source of comfort. That was their source of
results. That's where they found answers for our brother SR Danila.
Er, May Allah guide him and myself to the Huck, we find he wants to
divert from the path of the Prophet. Now one prophet prophets,
the Battle of
Rasul Allah is saying I'm better who didn't call on to Allah
subhanho wa taala. Why did he not go to Cornell to the other
prophets who are out there? Why didn't He use the week narration
that you put forward that week narration lnbf
alone.
Why don't you take that? Why didn't they take the argument?
That Hadith? What Oh, Salam Delica, Jeddah and for the sake of
argument, even if I accept this authenticity, and I take it on
board, do you think this is only hard to get beyond? This is hard?
Is this action only specific to the prophets? No narration
Have come approval for the normal people are you going to do is to
refer to the people as well the normal genuine mass, maybe Muslim
in your moral Allah Cumbria he The Prophet said that there is not a
person who goes by the grief of his brother for Salam Aryan system
As Salam Alikum Allah, Allah Who Who except Allah puts a soul in
that person and then he says to radical Salah then why do you
worship the general Muslims then? Because the same is happening for
them. Allah is bringing the soul back to them. Why don't you
supplicate? Why don't you make to add to them as well? But you know
each time you add two opposites do not come together. You have no no
element or you have any more no I'm ugly Walter, Dr. Muhammad
Allah when he had to make it halal one year they make it haram all
that in accordance to what they wish and what if the data is
consistent in your mind. And if the principles are something that
you need to follow from the get go, then you would apply to Elson
everywhere else we find here he keeps bringing the issue of
Alcatra I'm asking you, can I ask you a question? The question I'm
going to put to you is Alcatra to know and Qudra which is konia. And
that which is Sharia? Which of the definitions are you trying to put
the quarter into? Are you trying to put into the konia one or a
part try to try to put into the Sharia one. when your time comes
inshallah you can explain that expand on more, and then we'll
take it further from there. Even the law he'll bury. If Allah wills
is 400 Allah
You said what you said if it will mean that necessarily it's
abrogated. Then I'll say to you What about the IOM Kubica lady
Nica rule used to be to call your Toluca Oh, no, we're gonna take
the IR we're gonna say that is abrogated because the word is also
used in the IR is the same, the it is used, but the IR was Kavita to
more. Kalia to Amy la mala Mala. This is the current according to
those who lead. It's a specific situation that has no
generalization. This is the virtue that Sahabas has preceded us. So
the IO EVM. Kuru became Lavina when the disbelievers were
plotting and planning against you, are they plotting and planning
against us? Now that the prophet is with us? Is that what we're
going to say that the the, the eyes will refer to us right now
with the Prophet president with us? We'll say no. Now he doesn't.
This is was specific at that time, just to set the is the new
different is the same as in
Volume One foster home? And I said aim too low. I have explained it.
He should share with me la Rahmatullah. May Allah have mercy
upon him. Yes. He has a MacArthur on would you call it? Mooney Levy,
but even he Sherman, I'm sorry, but I just said it to you. The
asset of the word is is always that it's Marvy. A lot of full
Linamar Maha lacking what makes it bad is a career a in within the
context, there's something that diverts you from it. There's
something within the context that diverts you from it. So a solid
take this as an extra benefit. But if you said chikkaballapur thing
if I bring you another statement of his would you take it just out
of curiosity, inshallah to Allah because I'll bring you he himself
in his shadow of a Jumia saying that the word is the astral for it
is muddy, and anything else is within the context, I can bring
that for you just in case you might want to take that be in the
location. The other thing that I want to bring your attention as
brothers is every every issue has an assault, and there's things
that divert it from it's awesome. The person whose upon the original
essence of a matter is never asked to evidence. The person is upon
the Asan and it's just hard because Matt can Allah McCann, if
somebody has water with them? The answer is that water is pure.
Allah says pure, the one who says no this water of yours is not pure
has to be evidence. The answer of EDA is only for Allah dua isn't
reverted based on Hadith and Sunnah Timothy a dua a bad a da da
da and then why is the if which says Muhammad Allah says
in if our sorry, we have to do them into nilang Bala to ruin what
I am starting home they call out so do a bad is
you're saying I'm gonna divert a bad for other than Allah and then
you're asking me to be the evidence? Very cheap.
Do I pay attention to this question Do I is what they said?
You're asking me to give you evidence that I can't do two or
four of them Allah.
You're asking me to go around and look for evidence so he can't
worship other than Allah.
Wa and then messaggi Delila fella, fella Ted Ramallah he hadn't had
any luck and that kiloton CCRP need to feed remove that's the
guide according to the relevant which is
do not call onto any one what so ever who ever they are
generalization. Nick Kira tune indefinite in a context of
prohibition shows generalization that's decorado Surya, I'm upon
the answer, which is that you can never call into anybody until
other than Allah based on this idea which is based on this idea
which is genuine, he has to bring that to risk and restrict these
general evidences and I will tell you, we will sit here forever they
will never bring it they've never done it. And they never will. The
reason is because the Delete on the new social kita because sunnah
are clear. Yet well Allah He just over the last couple of days at an
odd Mugello that Allah fact that I read on just this issue, every
time I'm thinking about
myself how can somebody even make this into an argument? How could
this even be an argument in the first place? Again, my brother's
I'm an illiterate real reiterate is a cool? Yeah, this this very
important point, which is brothers. On the right side of
mine, you're going to find a group of brothers who are saying, oh,
new call on to Allah. And on the left, you're gonna find brothers
who are saying no, not only Allah, other than Allah. Just listen to
the sound of that and how it sounds, look at your filters. Even
the ones who may even be inclined to the ones on the left can feel
uncomfortableness in that team that that statement alone. I asked
Allah, how young when they eat and if we die and if we whilst we live
in this world, that Allah makes us die upon Tauheed La Ilaha illa
Allah, La La, la la that we worship Him alone in a booty or
servitude for dunya. Well, ACARA in no way you daddy called Cogito
Ali, I conclude there were no animus on the last day Smilla
rahmanir rahim.
Smilla Rahmanir Rahim Al hamdu Lillahi Rabbil Alameen
wa salatu salam, ala Sayidina. Muhammad, Allah, He was big
Marine. With regard to the first point, the SHA era, because you
keep bringing that point up, it does go against our conditions for
you to bring this up, because we agreed in the conditions that we
will stick to certain sources and you won't keep reciting this. And
I mentioned to you also, that I have with me the books of scholars
that you accept wholeheartedly who have also citations which you
would disagree with. So your point relating to the Shah era, I would
say you're not your transmission of deposition is unreliable,
unless you want to take your time and take their books and read from
the passages and show the actual position. But I will tell the
chairman and everyone else here that digressing from the original
subject.
Your transmission of me standing here is unreliable.
You said right now, if you rewind the videos that you made it out to
seem that we believe the prophets of Allah while you said did not
die, did not pass away. I have not said such a thing. Quran states
Kulu neffs in the cartoon mouth, every social taste that so if you
are not transit transmitting correctly from me here, I said to
you the Ambia I'll hire toolbars are here. And the definition of
death is moussaka to rotary and you just Separation of the soul
from the body when they pass away. Allah subhanho wa Taala gives them
a special life in the bursa. And you can go into the definition of
Barza what Barza means,
like to Shuhada if not greater, latach seven Alladhina cootie loo
FISI, feasibility and water to not consider those who have been
killed in the way of Allah subhanaw taala as I'm worked in
the sense that they are a word like any other word. So this also
destroys your point that you said, Why don't you call on other
people?
You're up the Rohan. I don't need to hear. But he Abdurrahman,
the messenger of allah sallallahu sunnah you asked to be he had, he
cannot be a similarity to other human beings in all senses. He's a
human being and he started to sign up, but but he's unhappy. So it is
different from this. Even a check mark Nasiruddin a little Bernie.
Who I'm sure I'm not citing him as a proof. You can dismiss this as
well, if you want because I'm sticking to the rules. But the
Hadith reject the English edition. But there was only two types and
it rulings.
The in this book on page 58, which is published by this actual is
published by the right street selfies don't Burbank and Abuja,
they have a on page 58 dimension.
The prophets are alive and praying their graves, nostril dynel Bernie
cites this as an authentic narration. And he says, On the
night when I was taken up through the heavens, I passed by Musa
alayhis salam and he was standing in prayer in his grave Subhan
Allah indeed Allah and also indeed Allah as angels who traveled about
in order to convey the greetings of salaam of my ummah to me, which
you can comment on later you brothers were checking on the net,
you can check the English edition of this tawassul Anwar como on
page 58. And also check the footnotes. This is our position
that they transfer from this world to the next world. And in the next
world in Bursa. They benefit the nations, how do they benefit the
nations and this you can't call ship? Because Allah subhanho wa
Taala has given them the ability to do so.
If anyone believes they benefit, they look, if I say this brother
benefits me by himself this ship biller whether he is present,
whether he is absent whether he's alive or dead.
With the Prophet sallallahu salatu salam when we say is the ratha is
permissible you want the definition of the hospital that
was not in the conditions in the conditions was the definition of
St. ratha. You wanted a definition of St. Lata and I gave that
definition. So, here the prophets Ali Masada to Salem benefit the
nation's because Umbria Here are few Kobudo him they have a higher
toolbar here with the sheikh Nasser Dean and others.
Acknowledge you said regarding Naboo wa
pardon Naboo WA, to check that in the comments with restriction No,
no. Donald moon. So here
I would like to ask you whether Naboo is out of the
oh, that he
is Naboo work out of the oddity. Why do I say this because you use
philosophical terms. He used a philosophical term. He said add
the math. That's other math. Yeah, one, you can have the student
Obama year and other works, st Sharif and others. Other math is a
philosophical term, even though even Taymiyah was influenced by
philosophy, and you may have read this term in his works, but at the
market is a philosophical term. So I would ask you is Naboo out of
the oddity because you said say you do not remember the Allah who
can
save nama or the Allah who
did not go to the messenger of allah sallallahu. And I said his
absence of going you said why didn't they go to the grave of the
messenger of allah sallallahu Tsum What did I say? I said, the
Messenger of Allah Subhan Allah, Allah some email higher Tuberosa
here, when he moves from this world to the next world, there are
like leading the prayer which do not apply. This is understood. And
what we believe is that the Messenger of Allah set alerts and
benefits his nation by supplicating to Allah subhanho wa
Taala we benefit from this. If someone goes to his grave, the
Messenger of Allah said alert some here's the Salaam and if that
person requests all messenger of Allah pray for me in your buzzer.
The messenger of allah sallallahu Sallam prays for them in the
bizarre we do not say it's something relating to this. And I
repeat again, you do not correct correctly copy from me, you need
to apologize from this, or retract your statement regarding that that
you did not
copy the principle my stance correctly. Then you said
is the Qudra Qudra. No ER or Qudra? healthier? This is what you
said? Which one? I'll give you permission to tell say
Qudra konia or Qudra? Shatter el Qudra. Sharia is same as mohale
Sharon, meaning opposite, not the same, opposite. If you say
something is more harsher, and then you say contra Sharia, when
you say Qudra konia. It relates to creation, and that is Mohammed
Aculon. So we go back to the same question that is it possible for
Allah subhanaw taala to create another god we say, Allah has
divine power does not relate to impossibilities in the set but you
said it's possible for Allah to give someone in the grave an
ability to do something you also said, the Messenger of Allah so
Allah has some benefits.
Us We the Quran stateswoman or Sanaka Illa rock Mata leela, Allah
mean we did not send you as except as a mercy for the universities is
your mercy for us now? Yes, he is in his higher and higher toolbars
are here. He is a mercy for us because he Ali salatu salam prays
for the sinners, he because the Quran mentions this, which is the
verse which is the verse which we were discussing, and you went back
to Eve. And you said, this eve relates
only to a speck, a specific event. If that were the case, I asked you
a question. After that event took place, would it be permissible for
because the hijab diversity recite to relate to migration? Yes. The
verse relates to migration. The Hijab took place once migration
took place once the verse mentions the migration, but people
committed sins throughout the life of the Messenger of Allah, so lots
of different people, whether they be munaf 18, or whether some
companions slipped, and they went to seek forgiveness from Allah
subhanaw taala. The judgment of the Quran remains that whenever
you seem, you go to the messenger of allah sallallahu alayhi salam
and he seeks forgiveness for you. This is the very meaning of the
hustle and he still after that today, if a Muslim is a sinner,
and it goes into the era of the Messenger of Allah
margin and he says all messenger of Allah so Allah some pray for me
in your grave in your higher Tuberosa here that Allah forgives
my sins, this is a form of st GAFA that is not shipped and you cannot
deny it that it is not shipped you cannot turn this has been shipped
and you cannot call those people to do this as Bucha ki kuffaar
Even though you have not said that explicitly regarding even cathedra
regarding
Alima Sookie and I'm not gonna falsely transmit your positions
like you have done with me that you have said I denied the mystery
of Allah salAllahu Alaihe Salam hasn't passed away No, we don't
hold that position. The Quran states in NACA you don't know me
you don't you didn't answer the immediate point that the meaning
of May it is set a mood, which does not it's not the one it's not
continuous. The messenger of allah sallallahu some tasty tastes that
couldn't have some dipole mode, which is separation of soul from
buddy. When he's placed in the grave. He at least salatu salam,
Allah subhanaw taala gives him the ability to pray because a sheikh
nasolabial Burnie authenticated the Hadith again, I'm not
presenting his authentication as hijab because you did say you
don't accept if you want to declare it weak. Then you have the
books of smart regional I'm sure you brought the books of a small
regional did you bring cash if yes or no.
You brought all cash if
I have a copy of all cash if if cash if I remember that Hubby,
which you were unfamiliar
with Mohammad Nawaz Sharif In addition, if you need a cash if I
borrow a cash gift to you, I want you to weaken those Hadith the
three Hadith I mentioned. Let's see you demonstrate the weakening
of those Hadith because otherwise you oh you admit said no Musa
Islam stands up is you're gonna say that was a singular event. If
you say that you need to give the link. You can't just say it's a
singular event. You need the lead from Quran sunnah Iijima, if you
say, the messenger of allah sallallahu the Salaam is
presented. Let me ask you something when you give salaam to
the Messenger of Allah and Allah is when you receive agile reward.
Don't answer because it goes against the rules. I would answer
for you. Yes, you receive a jewel reward. So when you recited Salam
does the messenger of allah sallallahu Sallam reply back to
the salam? Yes. So you are benefited from the messenger of
allah sallallahu alayhi salam, because he Salam is second.
tranquillity, it's a piece for us. So you have benefited from the
made. So these examples you're giving of the politics to Makkah,
and people who worship idols, and making a similarity between them
and ash, Aries and the mercury these which make a majority of the
Ummah today, not using that as an evidence. I'm just pointing out
the fact. No wonder I'm not saying this about Ustad Abdul Rahman. But
no wonder people in ISIS are killing people are destroying
graves are calling them Mushrik based on this ideology, not that
you are ISIS, I'm not making a low attack. I know you are against
them. I'm just saying some of those brothers who have been
misguided the Hermitage they have taken that ideology where they
declare you have not done the sorrow electric field. You have
not done the fear of us or the Muslims but I would want to ask
you examine, why have you not declared declared Sukiya kafir
even cathedra coffee or other hobby? You know the what the hubby
writes a coffee are different scholars in throughout the
centuries of Islam. You said the Mocha will explain to us why they
are mocha when Why have you made that way for them. But you do not
make that willful comedy. You do not make that willful El khazali
You do not make that willful,
bizarrely, or Razi all these different ash it scholars with
them you have to remember what you said about my wordy. I will quote
later what you said about my words the
hope that I'll just remind you is Shri Shadi
Bharti Yes. So when you quote the sandwich, Amazon, it's not a good
job, according to your principles, when you quote a smart regional
books, it's not a Hoja when you quote, an SDR you might refer to
as hub it's not Pooja Mahajan was a sherry, maybe even Erica check
his subtle body believes in what we believe. And now we are asking
Allah
you check his books he even does st ratha through Olia,
nowhere we which is not the subject, he calls upon a man other
than the messenger of allah sallallahu sallam, why do you use
his books? Is he a sheriff or not? So going back you said Marla,
young Pharaoh come you quoted the verse which mentioned malah Yeah.
And Pharaoh come to Quran states, Mala young Pharaoh conduct which
does not benefit you. But you said the messenger of allah sallallahu
at some does have enough Rabee he has a type of enough so does he
fall under that verse today? If someone calls upon the Messenger
of Allah salAllahu Salam Merlijn Pharaoh come, does he
fall under Millennium Falcon, or is mustafina an exception from
that verse, you have to answer these points. We'll start off
Druckman. I'm writing down your questions and attempting to answer
you have not still answered my questions. I asked you, is a
partner for Allah subhanaw taala Mohan UCLan or Maharsha? And you
did not answer, then you do you change the wording to Goodra konia
and Qudra Sharia these were the two terms you use. And you
answered the question you said you did answer the second question I
give credit where it's due. You said it is possible for Allah
subhanaw taala to give the ability to someone who is dead, to benefit
others. Allah subhanaw taala can do this we are saying this is
established from what I've mentioned, and you cannot negate
it from the messenger of allah sallallahu I doesn't lie you have
to be he had you do not make the us of the messenger of allah
sallallahu upon yourselves meaning the messenger of allah sallallahu
is a very special human being very special ALLAH SubhanA wa Tada has
given him Casa it's so many special qualities
there are many points that are similar she mentioned and
inshallah Thailand go to respond to them be the new lead curry
this is one question I'm going to put towards a thorough sheet as
long as she is talking about shipping in Belize authentication
and how she got authenticated. So do you affirm and you agree that
the issue of
authenticating Hadith and weekend in a hadith is Miss Ella to HD
Hadia Correct? Yes or no? It is. Each jihad is followed Messiah
intersec not aqidah
if the Hadees so it's okay. Okay. So HD high that is a fixed issue
yes or no?
He had his issue
of sealer given later, not just yes or no then you could explain
later. false dichotomy. Okay. You don't have to answer if you don't
want to.
I saw the she'd mentioned that. He's a bloodline follower. He's a
he's a mocha lead. And he had his MS. Elisha Kia. He had his a what?
It's a branch of analogy is a branch of chaos. As far as she did
a blind follower he shouldn't even be talking about issues of he had
that's not his premise. His premises a scholar certainly has
to blind follow. He said I'm a mocha lead a blind follower from
the get go a blind follower is an older alum, if you take the
statement of a scalability, I mean, he did he without any
evidence. So for you to identify with a shackle that it was right
or wrong, then that itself is an incorrect statement. And you
wouldn't understand he had because you're a vocalist, you admitted
you're a vocalist. I don't classify myself as a mechanic, but
he classifies himself a mechanic in certain Michel Barnier,
authenticated the Hadith, he said, I'm not using it as an evidence.
And I'm not trying to push it forward. I mean, that for me,
that's what else while the purpose can you hold brothers and sisters?
This is I'm gonna watch it later. What other what other premises can
it hold for you to be Shalini statement? I use that as evidence
unless you're trying to prove it correct. True or False? Okay, now
I'm going to say to you, I'm not going to use your cash if but do
you have these comments? Yes, you have these commits. Inshallah,
let's look at the third Jama of Al Hassan Ebro cote button, Madame de
al hacer la kotoba. Tell me that in JAMA, it will add the weekend
generation. And when I looked at their bow when I looked at Al
Bernie's authentication, and liberal ID I was more inclined to
the way it went around it. And we don't blind follow our scholars.
Wherever they get right we take and what they got wrong. We say
they get to rewards they get a reward for it. They get a reward
for it, because they're in which state and the HDR is a bridge
between in between what in digital which does he do for Asaba? fella
who agilon We're in Oslo in ACTA agilon Albania, is it between two
rewards or when we would he's leaving with reward regardless
whether it's 201 Are they here Rahmatullah him Allah have mercy
upon him? This issue we don't agree with him lacking. I'm just
going to go down and I'm going to take the test here of Sheikh
Mohammed Nasser Dena Alberni, I'll take it for the sake of argument.
This was not specific to nebula Musa and this is not specific. So
why did you choose to read a tawassul by Sheikh Alberni take
his test, but not look down and follow what he said and how he
explained it? That's unfair. Isn't that brothers? You take his test
here. You bring it to me and to use it as a proof with me that why
don't you take his fam he's understanding as well. That shows
a lot brothers. Anyways, Allah Cooley held. The statement sugar
daddy explained that there is a Hadith narrated by Ibrahim
barrini. Sorry, Herrera that the issue of praying in the grave is
not specific to Musa alayhis salam. That's every believer,
every moment. So Assad has to say I am going to do is the wrath on
every Muslim every moment because this is what every based on this
hadith, and then later in the recovery, when the dead is placed
in his grave, you know for him No. Yestermorrow he hears the
footprints of the last person who leaves he hears it for income
I mean, if he's a believer, candidate Salah to interrupt, see
the prayers with him right next to his head. He has the prayer with
him, what kind of cmo and the fasting and Yemeni What kind of
tea is the cat and she Mary, oh, his hierarchy and all of the good
days that are all around him. And then he's came and he's and they
come to him all these righteous actions of his day come to Him.
This hadith, and also the Hadith that I mentioned to you before
which you didn't respond to which you're not going to respond to,
which is Mohammed did you send me more Allah Allah, Allah actually,
there's not a person who gives a salaam to his brother, except his
brother does what? He returns the salaam to him. So though, then you
on your premise where you said, there's less here? The brother I
just said to a Salaam Alaikum who said what are they concerned? He
benefited me then why don't you do is to gather to every moment and
every believer? Because he responded to you. This is enough,
according to you, brothers.
These are questions. They're not statements. I'm asking questions,
I need answers, or else we've wasted our time coming here. We've
wasted our time discussing this issue. Millions and 1000s of
people are watching around the world. They want answers. They
want to hear the ash IV the Ashari arguments. That's what they want
to know. So here I am inshallah to ALLAH asking you again, to respond
to those points that I brought.
Now, let me go back to the issue of
you said the scholars they cited is permissibility of the issue of
a listed Arthur. He said they cited his permissibility Please
That's all we're here for all day. Where did the scholar cited? Give
me one scholar say this scholar said that is permissible. At least
the last and I'm speaking about Otto nomophobia not MUFA Billa.
Coronel MUFA. Bala, the three noble generations Abu Bakr is
time, reverse time, Earth man ally, the Sahaba in totality, the
tabular in the tabular, tabular in all of them current number the
current generation after generations. This is very
important. The other thing I want to say you said Allah, Allah to
Allah Kabuli Eden, do you know what it means in in Arabic
language? Yes, yes, you do. What does it mean in Arabic language?
Are you okay? spend all your time this is a question that I have
directly put it put him at, or I want him to answer read my
brothers come from is the root word of it, or is it something
that has repetition to corral it keeps happening? You keep going to
the prophets grave Oh Allah do not make my grave a place where people
keep coming. This is simple terms, my brothers, this is not like
lamea tulips. I'll be fine and lynfit alluded to during the ozone
layer. Right? This is not a this is not the crime of liberal
America. Mr. Qalamoun I love the new freedom, stock impossible.
Melodyne it's just simple terms that come on three letter words.
You could just look at the dictionary. For this we need to
prepare these books should it be like Allah said about the Jews,
methadone, ambulatory attitude, malaria, Camila. Camila. Camila
suara we need to understand what's in these books. So we don't miss
guide ourselves and we don't miss kind of those who are around us is
very vital. It's important. Again, we find him he said, the issue of
befinner Inaba Sheikh Hassan Tamia, I find this to not want to
answer my points. If you want to make a discussion about shekel
Islamic Tamia did he even say the issue of befinner in now we can
have a discussion. We have books about it. We've got topics we can
talk about it. There is no need for you to go in that area
throughout the sheet. We're talking about is devata walleye
coming today I thought oh, this should we had the shoe had Sookie
brought the shoe. We had mammoths originally brought Mohammed Jaden
coterie brought all of those should will hurt you could have
brought them today. You could have used those as evidence. I was
thinking this is where I'm thinking he's gonna come from what
should how is he going to bring? We're talking about befinner
enough.
We're talking about other words, for me, Wallahi brothers, it
amazes me
at this point,
it this particular point did I think Did I think the right paper?
Yeah.
Here is the answer. So how am I understanding Alicia Archibald
Shavon made me forget it. Now I want you say,
yeah.
Why would you bring the issue of ISIS? And why would you content
mention it in the context of a debate like this, we're talking
very civil. It has got nothing to do with us mentioning their name
is uncalled for. It's unnecessary. Even if you didn't mean it, it
just has that connotation to what you're trying to imply. But
there's why we should be very careful in those usage. You said
even harder, isn't it? Do you know how to refute the fact Regina
rosin is Catherine Berry. You know what he said? They would have been
celibate for Christina Razi. He said he died a death when he
perfected his Aqeedah
he said even harder died a Regina Rossi died a death and when he
died Hasakah he perfected his Aikido
brothers. Are you guys going to say Abraham there is ash tree and
no he's an ash.
Read and be happier when they were defending the Sunnah of the
Prophet salallahu Salam, Ali salatu salam ala hajat has the
explanation of natural body which is Asahi terbium, that Dickie
tabula Well, woman Elefant good to be
rockin hemolysin is elfia Well masa ha whoa woman LFL coutume
habla he said, Oh, my first person whoever authenticated or rich and
authentic book is
happy to be there. This is my humble, smart Aw, but I will never
able to bring this back and Buhari you Rama. Hola. He explained his
book. How can you say Abraham is an Ashari when Fackrell Dino Rossi
say to the Kitab and the Sunnah do not show certainty. sayfudine
Amedee a Saturday TAFTA Zanni. LB Julie, the Quran and the Sunnah
are speculation and assumption. And a man like him Allah is
defending the Sunnah, spreading the Sunnah. Now brothers, I'm
gonna ask this question, because you know, he uses this argument
all the time. All the scholars which area or which area? Where
did it have you ever say I'm gonna actually, when it was spread at
this time, where did we ever say I'm gonna actually, where did he
ever say I'm actually with one place? One time there is an added
value? Because you post and you say I'm actually I'm actually
bring me one place in Honduras, and I'm gonna shun rather than my
brothers. Do you guys know that? Ashara started in the fourth
century. And the Prophet said that the best generations are who?
Cairo Nursia currently, so many of you know, you know, so melody Nia,
Luna. So that shows the disconnection from Asha IRA. If we
take that premises on board, that the service and the tablet and
interpret the word ash area, and he started to the third
generation, rather, I'm going to finally conclude this part because
he keeps bringing this point up, even though it's not our mobile
and Akash, even though it's not but I have to tackle it, because
this should have been spreading to the people to think I write down
all the scholars of that genre. If another chance is given, I will
mention them name by name, they are not more than 21 scholars.
K for to Olona How can you then say and claim that they're all
Ashara? This doesn't add up. It doesn't make it's just too well,
the valley, Imam and reasonable Abdus Salam who you refer to as an
ash, it said the Sharia were not the majority that shall not, he
mentioned that he was Fatah, Al Cooper ah, which is also known as
Phytolacca. And what is it is also known as fatawa. It's also known
as camel cupola is known as, and he's also known as an icon, in
which he mentioned that the shadows are not the majority
at his time, so to argue that they are the majority and another thing
is brothers. We don't base our religion on majority and minority.
The hack is not the majority with Africa that's why the prophets of
Allah Allah Solomon said, what he said Ali salatu salam that no
Abdullah when was said even though it was not said to the Prophet and
tell Gemma you are the GEMA even if you're alone, you are the hack
even if you're by yourself.
Abu Bakr was on by himself the day of reader.
The day the Quran was called, when it was said it was created, he was
on the app by himself
and a few who's with him.
Allah says we're in took the ACC tournament fill out the look at
Sevilla, if you obey the majority of the people you are what you
will be misguided.
Allah subhanaw taala also says well I can NextEra Nathalia Allah
mode the majority of the people do not basing your home because the
majority said that premise is incorrect. The heart is not looked
at who said it and how much is when he died. He can't that's why
the Scholars they said the scholars they said I'll help you
by letter moment that the heart is the last property of the believer
wherever he finds it takes it.
So this premise is a Sha Sha Sha that needs to be looked at. You
mentioned the biblical theory. It would okay till he said why do you
do Techfit of 21
benefits Hi and welcome to April Kathira, himolla 10 times a very
tight
very tight look at the Rahim Allah Allah What did he say about him? I
think he threw in slyly he said look I feel Rahim Allah He said
you did take care of Sookie and why blood calcium. He tried to put
a block here and Sookie on the same methodology on this issue. If
you look at the look at the IRS of what he wrote pertaining to, I
have to add it up series. Here is you find it. Look at the Iowa
rocky hill Fuki that will allow Dina and Amanda jameelah burrito
you should call whenever you say you look at the continental food
culture interview.
Look at those eyes. Look at those eyes and how he smashes the
methodology of cooling onto them Allah. If you look at theories and
call it a tough read, to read through here it was 42 and he was
making sure that shake would not spread. And it will consider by
the way, he's a student of people who are able to tell him that I'm
Allah when he took the Safi, the pure sunnah and the pure Tauheed
from his teacher. Allah here Rahmatullah and he studied from
him and he took knowledge from indirectly may Allah have mercy
upon both of them. This man
Technology have brothers that are being pushed that we're not the
majority you guys are the minority minority. I only quoted in the
panel of discussion that David Sharada shared and I can't repeat
it because that's all you think. If I said to everything they said
you will not take it. But I screwed Sookie for you have
regular hydro so I could be your heart to understand this is
something even your own Messiah and your own ruler that would say
it had Danila who May Allah guide myself and each and every one of
you guys to the straight path. May Allah give us the best in this
world in the Hereafter. May Allah make us the ones who call to the
Tawheed and the Sunnah. Finally, I'm going to conclude again, for
others the people on the right here, this is going to be said
every moment that comes. The people on the Wright brothers are
calling to Allah Allah should be worshipped. The people on the left
are saying that we should call on to other than Allah. You guys
judged for who is right or who's wrong. Allah Allah