Abdur Rahman ibn Yusuf Mangera – Simplified Zakat Guidance Who Pays the Zakat of a Loan

Abdur Rahman ibn Yusuf Mangera
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The speaker discusses the confusion surrounding debts and debts related to a friend's loan. They explain that people may not pay the loan if they have already spent it, and that it is incorrect to say that a loan is a liability. They also mention that people may not pay back loans if they have already paid it back, and that it is a sign of oppression.

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			Bismillah R Rahman r Rahim. The
second issue I want to cover today
		
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			is regarding debts. So there's a
lot of confusion about debts if I
		
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			have borrowed money from my
friend, so I am in debt to my
		
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			friends. So if I borrowed 1000
pounds, $2,000, whatever, now I
		
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			owe that much. So clearly, I'm not
going to pay zakat on this. So if
		
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			I've already spent the money, then
I can actually deduct this from
		
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			any money that I still hold. But
if I've still got this money, I
		
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			don't pay this ticket. But the
person who lent me this money,
		
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			they will pay the Zakat on it. Now
I know that sound for some people,
		
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			they say that, if I'm going to
lend you 10,000 pounds for five
		
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			years, right, I still have to pay
zakat on 10,000 pounds every year.
		
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			Right, which is, there's it's 200,
it's 25 pound per 1000, which
		
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			means it's 250 pounds of zakat,
every year that I must pay. And
		
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			I've lent you, I've learned to
10,000 pounds. So some people say
		
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			that I'm going to some people try
to do this, that I will lend you
		
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			the money, but you must take the
liability of the Zakat. And that
		
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			is actually incorrect. That is
actually incorrect, that will
		
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			actually amount to interest.
Because the card is a worship,
		
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			this is my money at the end of the
day, when you might say, well,
		
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			it's a liability, I'm letting him
use it. And I'm paying the ticket
		
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			every 250 pounds, right of 10,000
pounds, well, I'm getting a
		
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			reward. That's why they say that
in some cases, a loan is actually
		
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			more rewarding than a sadaqa.
Because when you give sadaqa,
		
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			you're probably going to give
less, and you're going to forget
		
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			about it's what you can tolerate
you will give and you'll forget
		
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			about it, you don't expect to get
it back, you just expect the
		
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			reward. When it comes to a when it
comes to alone. There's a lot more
		
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			aggravation in that. Because
you're generally going to give a
		
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			larger amount than you will giving
sadaqa generally speaking
		
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			proportionately, and then after
that, you'd be constantly
		
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			concerned that am I going to get
this money back? When am I going
		
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			to get it back. And then a lot of
the time, a lot of the time what
		
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			happens is that when the time
comes due to that you've promised
		
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			not to ask them for although you
can technically asked for your
		
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			loan money back at any time,
right? Because it's an act of
		
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			goodwill, and you can ask for it
back anytime. But if you've
		
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			promised that you can use it for
10 years or five years, then you
		
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			should generally go by that. But
at the end of it even when those
		
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			five years are up or two years or
up or whatever the time period
		
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			was.
		
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			A lot of the time people will say
I don't have it yet. Please give
		
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			me some more time. Please give me
some more time. That's why the
		
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			prophets also mentioned many
virtues for giving some giving
		
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			people time to repay. But that's
why he also told the person who
		
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			has the money who doesn't repay
because there's a lot of people
		
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			they get comfortable with somebody
else's money, anything Well, I can
		
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			move it around in the markets and
make some profit for it. Oh, he
		
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			can wait, he can read he's got
enough money. He doesn't need the
		
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			money. So that the Prophet saw
some termed as oppression that if
		
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			I if I owe someone money, and I've
got the money to give back, right,
		
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			and I really I have it, and I can
get it. I can get it. But they're
		
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			saying I don't want to sell my
stocks right now waiting for it to
		
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			get a bit higher, I can make a
bigger profit right now. When the
		
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			person wants it back. You should
give it back otherwise the box
		
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			Lawson says more to lose money you
Holman. Right. Which basically
		
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			means that the dilly dallying the
delay of repay repayment, of a
		
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			person who has money, I called him
a wealthy person, if he's got the
		
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			money, he's a wealthy person,
right to repay the debt. That's an
		
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			oppression. It's his money. It's
not your money. It's her money.
		
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			It's not your money. So why aren't
you giving it back? Right? So
		
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			that's why
		
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			you're going to going back to the
scar tissue. Yes, if I've lent you
		
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			money, then I will have to pay
this back out of it. Right. But
		
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			that's because I'm also getting
the reward of it. And this is
		
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			according to the Hanafi school
that only one party pays as part
		
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			of a loan. There may be other
views out there in other schools
		
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			in which it says that both parties
pay the loan, but that is not the
		
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			view of the Hanafi school. So we
ask Allah subhanaw taala to assist
		
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			us in this regard, and to allow us
to pay off the gods correctly,
		
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			just like allow Hyrum